HE just increases the chance of a miss since you’re aiming for smaller weak spots as well
#vehicles-discussion
gentle wasp
lyric oriole
Pretty much if you are using HE to go for extra damage (not to finish off a tank I'm saying) only do it when you are close enough to hit the spot you are aiming for, or as a hail mary in a win or lose situation
scarlet echo
Why does aim suck when a tank has all weekpoint but you still and hurt them?
lyric oriole
Wdym, that question doesn't read very well
inland ivy
Well i like HEing people in my KV-2 from like 200m away
solid gate
(Give him a break I don’t think English is his first language @lyric oriole
lyric oriole
That's why I'm asking him to rephrase it @solid gate
scarlet echo
How come I get a 1 master class badge high caliber 2.5 damg and block 250 I lose 20k credits?!?!
inland ivy
Got killed, spent too much prammo...
lyric oriole
It doesn't have a great credit Coefficient, (basically meaning whatever effort you put in gets multiplied by a number and gives you more or less)
Blocking damage doesn't give anything iirc, also the shells are very expensive on KV-1S
gentle wasp
Read the pinned credit thread in general-blitz
inland ivy
Lol i always seem to make credits in my KV-2
scarlet echo
How come the fuel is outside and when they shoot it it sets you on fire on the inside on tank?!?!
solid gate
Those fuel cans aren’t a hit box
scarlet echo
Then why did it count then
solid gate
Because that’s where the engine sits and a bit of the internal fuel hit box
scarlet echo
Does platooning give extra credits?
gentle wasp
No
scarlet echo
I quit
solid gate
@gentle wasp bro u were right that Panther I is great.. thx bud
gentle wasp
Ayyy great game man, glad you like it :)
solid gate
Ofc I love it
gentle wasp
It’s a keeper, I still play mine once in a while for that fantastic gun
inland ivy
should see the FV301 then lol
solid gate
At first I'll research E50M than maybe that new FV
past crane
I love the panther. Sometimes I use the 88 just to bully Tier 6s since they don't expect 220 damage every 7 seconds or so
scarlet echo
I hate the kv1s it's the worst tier 6 tank ever ( pretend that's all in caps)
winter mauve
is Ru251 worth it? xD
storm robin
I love the panther. Sometimes I use the 88 just to bully Tier 6s since they don't expect 220 damage every 7 seconds or so
Ain’t that basically the ARL’s top gun? I mean, the ARL is a keeper for me, I’m never selling that beautiful thing
solid gate
I like Panther with KwK 42 L/100 a true sniper
past crane
LOl
graceful whale
cobalt wedge
How far dose the missile reach in MM
glass relic
250m?
inland ivy
Its not OP
but it is stronk
glass relic
Its a good tank with a well rounded armor for a super heavy while having a punchy gun.
glass relic
He surely will once, a mod just warns him. or... resist 🙃
gentle wasp
Sigh I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt
@calm inlet @pulsar sinew
glass relic
But not your profile picture.
weary marten
question is the kv2's turret turn rate really slow?
gentle wasp
Yes
solid gate
We need this
fluid sand
https://tenor.com/view/wot-wot_blitz-tanks-tank-soviet-gif-18586654
@novel raptor What the hell are you doing step tank?
solid gate
Strv 2000
fluid sand
Why is the T-62 R8ing a dead tank?
solid gate
140 mm Gun with 800 mm of Pen
fluid sand
with 540 alpha dmg
solid gate
Lol
If the Strv 2000 get added it would be OP for four things.
1 It has a auto loader
2 It has a 140 mm Gun
3 it has 800 mm pen
4 very angled armor
I hate the kv1s it's the worst tier 6 tank ever ( pretend that's all in caps)
@scarlet echo lol I aced it after 70 battles. It is very good tank if u know how to use it 😉
Here is proof 😂
scarlet echo
For me I do great and all but I lose up to 10k credits all the time and my highest credits earn was 231
calm drumBOT
hitler#2086 was banned
gentle wasp
Thanks
fluid sand
oof
weary marten
should i get the kv 1s?
rustic tulip
Well he had that coming for him
scarlet echo
What did he do??
rustic tulip
You can imply what pfp he had with his tags
strange crag
Guys, I'm facing a problem. I wanna buy the battle pass but for some reason, even after trying out 3 diff cards (via Microsoft), it's displaying error as "the entered details don't match the card". How to fix this?
Anyone?
mystic summit
@strange crag are the card details up to date
pliant viper
They extended the T25 offer for 2 more days?
strange crag
Nvm, I downloaded the game client from steam
pale river
Imagine have fv4005 stage 2 in blitz
glass relic
Imagine accepting the reality that WG decided to give it an 123mm autoloader gun in blitz.
pale river
Lol
But stage 2 is more like a 183 in fv 4005 chassis and damn nice mobility and turret
solid gate
And you answered yourself why it will never happen
stuck needle
I feel like I ave finally fulfilled my life
I finally aced the KV-2 after some 550 games in it over some 4 years (Or whenever it came out)
flat eagle
Anyone have any idea when the scorpion comes ou in NA shop?
It most probably wont be in crates
ancient iron
so... weird question.... which tanks are most commonly described as "the most fun you can have with your pants on"?
hollow moth
Depends a lot on your playstyle @ancient iron
But I can give some options for you:
Usually derp tanks are pretty funny because they are derp, try some high calliber like SU-100Y, ISU-152, RHM Borsig, SU-152 (tier 6 cannon) or even KV-2 (tier 6 cannon)
Fast tanks with solid DPM are pretty funny tho, AMX 13 75 is my fav from French lights, but you can try a RU 251, and British lights that are pretty strong too
That's just my opinion, for me, high callibers and fast tanks = funny
thick trout
As far as I'm aware there's no requirement to have pants on while playing blitz, but if I wanted pure enjoyment I'd go for the T-34-2, Defender Mk1, standard B, grille or prog 65. They are mostly fairly fast and adaptable tanks but it depends on the individual and what you enjoy really
ancient iron
is there any tanks with guns that can frequently ignite enemy tanks? 😄
candid harbor
anything big
rustic tulip
Shoot at the germans
hollow moth
Jagdpanzer E100 maybe, pretty funny too, just be careful with the slowness
unique hull
I guess after the stug 3 g I should go for the jagdpanzer IV?
candid harbor
yes, it is amazing engine burning experience
hollow moth
Also it'll get a tier X DPM on 7.4
woeful creek
What tanks in blitz that has preferential mm?
lofty dock
valentine and Pz.b2
ancient iron
frick..... I jut CANNOT win in the T25/2
hollow moth
Is it stock? @ancient iron
ancient iron
fully upgraded.... I just can't seem to manage anything... :/
solar cradle
I want t10 japanease heavy
hollow moth
Well, what a lack of luck bro, T25/2 looks a good tank@ancient iron
@solar cradle you know that Blitz maps are too small for it, it's easier for we see Badger in tech than that giant in WOTB
ancient iron
it's 10000000% NOT..... the gun is like... AT BEST average.... is woefully underpowered in the engine, and has NO armor..... aaaand with all the Smashers and Annihilators in the battle.... it goes from fairly bad to extremely bad.....
solar cradle
And?
Hb fv4005 its an ez shot with big turret and the t10 heavy japanease tank is big so meds can bully it
ancient iron
I think the T25/2 desperately NEEDS some sort of 105mm gun and/or a buff to the engine
solid gate
Japanese heavies are not going to happen. WG has made that very clear.
hollow moth
And then you get impenetrable for meds, lights and some heavies
Only TDs penetrate you and Blitz maps are too small for flanking this beast
As like I said, it's easier to see Badger in tech tree than Type 5 Heavy @solar cradle
the t10 heavy japanease tank is big so meds can bully it
Most of the hull is 280mm+, enough for block big most of AP and APCR on tier 10, sides are 160-220mm, much more than IS-4
ancient iron
and how next to impossible flanking is in Blitz due to the lack of map size
hollow moth
Yeah, mostly in close maps, like disnasty of pearl in city area
ancient iron
all it'd take is 2 of them on a team and being smart enough to camp a hard cover corner overlooking the cap and they become untouchable
and tbh there's a lot of corners like that even in more open maps
to put the Japanese Heavies in they'd have to completely overhaul most the game.... which is not financially worthwhile
hollow moth
We don't need Type 5 Heavy, cuz we already will get this beast
solar cradle
Neh
hollow moth
260mm on lower plate, lol
viral falcon
I hope it will get nerfed to the ground before release. We don't need an Is-7 that is twice as good in everything as the Is-7.
fast compass
There is still one more chance for it to be nerfed after 7.4 i doubt it would get a really hard nerf anyways
hollow moth
I wouldn't be surprised if this tank is another loot box tank, it's almost pretty obvious
wise moth
@pale river The 4005 in Blitz is the FV4005 stage 2. Stage II just means that it has the covering over the turret.
WG just swapped out the 183mm for a 123mm autoloader.
past crane
I'm still pissed that the AMX M4 54 is a collector. They made it too OP with the gun since it has all the good parts of the 130 and the 120 slapped into a monster. The penetration and accuracy values are for the 120 but it also has the damage with the 130. I swear I'm going to raid WG and put it in the Tech Tree, I've been wanting this for years but NOOO, WG wants money instead. Put a tank that isn't Tech Tree from PC in such as the Object 260, heck even the 279 would be fine as long as the M4 54 goes where it should.
hollow moth
I wouldn't want this tank even on tech tree, it's too strong for even be on the game
static harness
Japanese heavies are not going to happen. WG has made that very clear.
Like how they said 460mm will be the biggest caliber guns in WoWs?
hollow moth
They even said that Arty won't come to blitz, but welp, you know what happened
static harness
It's STILL what WE call "Arty"
I mean
Thats what it literally is but oh well
Shouldn't take too long....
past crane
I wouldn't want this tank even on tech tree, it's too strong for even be on the game
@hollow moth They'd have to rebalance it. In PC it has like 60mm of side armor so the slightest turn and you'll get HEd from the side. Plus the 130 would have its actual pen of like 250 and crap accuracy, and the 120 has like a less DPM but more pen FV215b gun. It has a ton of drawbacks but WG needs to add them to balance it.
brittle atlas
i need some guidence for the amx elc bis
gentle wasp
tactical yolo. you need to learn proper spotting runs and escape routes, use your gun only in emergencies.
brittle atlas
i accidentally took 200 damage brushing past a crusader, lol tactical yolo. yes
pastel drum
amx elc is nothing but pure love
gentle wasp
use your mobility, low profile, and camo to swoop in and out, rattle their sides with shells, and then run away. learn how to drive effectively and not lose speed by turning or hitting stuff
brittle atlas
so spotting the only thing i do? what if i get a nice possition, behind enemy lines and have a solid escape?
gentle wasp
sure you can take the opportunity to get shots in but your gun is not good. your main focus is spotting and being a distraction. you have the gun to clear targets and track stuff, but this is not the tank for farming damage.
brittle atlas
ye i guess, i dont like the non 360 turrent 😐
dammit i stop for a second to take a shot and im dead 🙂
gentle wasp
that just makes you a little more disciplined when yoloing. you have to master the art of yoloing in, snapping a shot in, and then whipping to one side to get past them and away.
You should never be stopping.
brittle atlas
haven't realsied the leapord was chasing me down. but the thrill of runing through enemy spawn is great
gentle wasp
yea you should just keep on the move at all times. your dispersion factors are pretty good so it makes it easy to run up and shoot stuff without bleeding any speed.
brittle atlas
ye. also should i face hug lonely heavies as a distraction/farm damge
gentle wasp
if it's an isolated heavy that you know you can face hug then yes go for it
brittle atlas
ah hell yes. usually i find borgs alone. french heavy,
gentle wasp
BDR? yea you can probably hug that pretty easily. if he can even get his gun down, you have a huge mobility advantage so just circle him anyway
brittle atlas
ah yes, my dislexic brain
gentle wasp
lol I understood
brittle atlas
damn i circled a kv-1, he stood no chance
but its really hard to earn exp that way. im trying to get further down the line also
gentle wasp
smart spotting and vulturing kills will take care of the xp.
quasi mirage
The amx m4 54 is op due to the side armor being as good as an is4
cerulean kernel
Excuse me guys, may i ask how to use jagdpanther properly? I just bought lol
tepid geyser
You can snipe in it and also play it aggressively, it depends on your playstyle. If you do play it aggressively, keep in mind that the lower plate is quite weak but the upper plate is extremely strong for tier 7, so you'll want to hide the lower plate by using the gun depression over hills and other locations @cerulean kernel
I'd suggest to snipe in tier eight games until about mid-game, but at tier 7 it's really up to you how you want to play it. Traverse is a little on the slow side, but it's not horrible
cerulean kernel
@tepid geyser oh i see, thank you very much max. I really appreciate it. Somehow when in tier eight games, all of them can penetrate me lol :( gotta practice after this 😁
lyric oriole
@cerulean kernel it's a good sniper or second line tank, it can play close enough to be spotted, but not in the Frontline and do well. Just be wary of the higher Penetration guns and exposing your sides to large calibre HE shells.
tepid geyser
@tepid geyser oh i see, thank you very much max. I really appreciate it. Somehow when in tier eight games, all of them can penetrate me lol 😦 gotta practice after this 😁
@cerulean kernel yeah, in tier eight games the armor doesn't count for as much, that's why you have to play it more passive at tier eight
gentle wasp
The gun works on both levels, as more of a sniper or bullying meds
pliant lodge
Buff FCM 50 t
lyric oriole
FCM 50 T is fine
cerulean kernel
@lyric oriole yes, its quite troublesome because it didnt have the speed and agility of jadgpanzer 4, and its very long body makes the tank feel quite awkward lol. Its just like heavier stug haha
lyric oriole
Pretty much, good alpha, shot reload, high pen, mobile but not exactly quick
cerulean kernel
@tepid geyser somehow i wonder, does the ww2 german tanks is very good that it can match even a post war tank and other hideous premium tank. 🤣
tepid geyser
@tepid geyser somehow i wonder, does the ww2 german tanks is very good that it can match even a post war tank and other hideous premium tank. 🤣
@cerulean kernel lol I find them very good for their tiers, all very competitive
pliant lodge
@lyric oriole iit's a train easy to pen it's just BRUH
lyric oriole
FCM 50 T has troll armor, a great gun, lots of health and the ability to ram all with good mobility
cerulean kernel
@tepid geyser yep, and i just realize this is not a realistic ww2 games 🤣
pliant lodge
I don't like the size of it. It's impossible to go to your normal medium spot
tepid geyser
@tepid geyser yep, and i just realize this is not a realistic ww2 games 🤣
@cerulean kernel Nope, not at all
cerulean kernel
Thanks for the advice guys 😁
lyric oriole
Then don't play it, it has the stats, if you don't like the size there's nothing you can do
pliant lodge
Could't they at least give FCM more gun depression?
lyric oriole
8° is plenty
grand linden
Fcm isn't bad but it's just really average
pliant lodge
Going hulldown in it is the only thing I can do to avoid getting shot on my massive TOG like hull. Plus it's on the side. Not the front or at least it doens't feel like 8 deg
viral falcon
It's 8 everywhere except over the rear.
pliant lodge
I still think 8 deg is not enough for a tank with a TOG like hull
lyric oriole
It's very mobile 8 is plenty
pliant lodge
It's mobile but it's easy to hit
lyric oriole
Ok
pliant lodge
Well, it is
lyric oriole
If you put yourself in a weird position yes
pliant lodge
So every place that has flat or medium flat terrain is a weird position?
So I trade average stats for being a huge tank? :I
I wish FCM was smaller
lofty dock
the FCM is very hard to use. from pretty much every review i’ve seen of the fcm, it says that you need to be really skilled to use the fcm
apparently it has a super weird play style or something
lyric oriole
Er, FCM has the most health of mediums, the second highest reverse speed, 4th best Penetration, above average module damage per shot, the second best weight and one of the best P/W ratios on soft terrain, far from average stats
pliant lodge
And all this for a stupidly big size? :I
tepid geyser
It has decent frontal armor too, if you can get it in the right position
lofty dock
for something that has some armor, some gun, but also some speed, i expected it be a decent all rounder, but apparently not. it has its unique heavium playstyle
pliant lodge
I like to farm heavies in FCM. I find a nice spot and perma track them. I really don't need any armor or things. I like the gun
I feel I almost need to camp in FCM to be effective
tepid geyser
for something that has some armor, some gun, but also some speed, i expected it be a decent all rounder, but apparently not. it has its unique heavium playstyle
@lofty dock it's a better heavy than the VK 45,02A lol
pliant lodge
Or at least have a good team
hollow moth
But also let's remember that FCM 50T is very big and nothing so fast, even the turret can be easily penetrated by high callibers
It's literraly a big HP pool with a good gun, basically a TOG that can run like a slow medium
wanton aurora
Its the french T8 TOG
The french have 2 TOGs
hollow moth
Also, the hull isn't that troll, it's easy to penetrate even for tier 7 tanks, it may only bounce at lucky angles or at sidescrape against low pen meds
wanton aurora
AMX 38 and FCM 50 t
hollow moth
I think that FCM 50T should get a little buff, because of the broken tier 8 spam the FCM is pointless
pliant lodge
There is a reason I hated FCM 50 t after a time when more broke premium tier 8 tanks came into the game. I used to have well over 64% WR in it. Now it's 56% :I
hollow moth
Yeah
pliant lodge
FCM 50 t ain't that relevant in games anymore. Even tho It can do well, yes I don't disagree. But it takes too much.
Almost no one plays FCM 50 t
hollow moth
Ok, FCM 50T have a good penetration, but you may struggle to penetrate a Vk 168 anyways
It may have an HP pool, but Mk 1 defender and Caernavon AX
It should get a buff with some other mediums to be more competitive
pliant lodge
Right now I feel it's rfee damage
solid gate
aight, tiger 2 first impressions! instead of vk36 to tiger 1 phase where i hated the tiger 1 because it wasnt VERY good and just good, tiger 2, even as stock, feels much stronger
i like this tank a lot alread, much more positive feelings than i first used its predecessor
and mind you, i didnt like tiger 1's upgraded gun because it felt weak, on the long run i did realize it wasnt the gun but the armor that was weaker but i eventually got really good at it
hollow belfry
« I hated it because it was good instead of being very good »
solid gate
i mean, vk36 is too good i heard
while tiger 1 is just good
when i went from vk to tiger i really thought it'd as good compared to its tier
what i got was a heavium tank with a nice gun and really off putting armor profile, it is by no means bad but it is really different from vk
prisma hornet
Does anyone know how much the black friday sale tanks are going to be?
wispy rain
I mean, its more that the Tiger 1 is just a harder tank to play than the VK 36...you need to angle or sidescrape with it to use its armor effectively. Tiger 2 is also like that, you cant just sit in front of you enemies and laugh at their attempts to penatrate you like the VK 36
solid gate
stock tiger 2 just felt more strong right off the bat compared to stock tiger 1, tiger 1 with stock modules is really weak
and not everyone has a ton of free xp ready to max a tank when they get a new one
prisma hornet
My finger is barely holding from buying the Dream team pack, and i am desperate to splurge on it.
I want to know any tiny bit of information about the black friday tanks, the dream team has each tank cost 4.2k with camos and equipment
Guys... I don't know if I can hold until black friday!
hollow notch
Hold off from buying it. The chief/95 is a decent tank, but there are several flat out better tanks that can do the same thing. The isu130 is decent, sure, but there is an isu152 that does exactly the same thing. The type 59 is the only tank that I would say is worth it, but again, there are better tanks available for tier 8 meds.
brittle atlas
does the same tactical yolo method for the amx elc bis work for the amx 12t?
static harness
Personally
For me the rest of the line is just (amx12t and higher) just hit and run with a clip....
Some may also say tactical yolo so yeah
lyric copper
@brittle atlas 12t and higher are a planned thrust and retreat, no yolo, assassinate >500 HP targets
static harness
^ explains it better
lyric copper
darn french tracks scranning my glorious HESH for its 9-course meal
static harness
French lights have more armour than they are supposed to have
Especially against 150mm+ guns
brittle atlas
ah, so i should flank and assasinate, nice.
it may be a while til i get the 12t tho,
lyric copper
play like the Spy from TF2- rely on the battle chaos to draw attention away from you, you are squishier than a freshly cooked croissant, and 183s and Grilles live to lob their massive HE/HESH shells into your tank. When a target presents itself, (under 400 for 12t, 500 for the 13 75/90 and 800 for the BC25 t (BCAP can also do this) bare your fangs and strike.
brittle atlas
i like the spy analogy (right word?). although i never played spy, i know what you mean. I like to cause chaos in the elc bis. Bc of low profile i rarely get hit hard.
tulip sail
Are there any other tanks that have the same play style as the is-6?
(When played with the dpm gun)
mossy pulsar
I wish we could Have Roll physics instead of being held upright
It would make some players more cautious of their environment and where they are driving
Plus it would be absolutely amazing for training rooms
Maybe they could add a gamemode if they don’t want to add it permanently
“Tumble and Roll” Mode
Imagine gravity with Roll physics
Overturned vehicles are now beach balls for heavies
tulip sail
The problem with it is the game engine blitz is built off wont be able to handle it plus you'll have the players who dont want to learn game mechanics rolling over all the time creating problems with your team
mossy pulsar
Good point
But probably only the first week or so when released
Or newbs just rolling round but that will probably be low tier
And you already need to expect bad teams there
tulip sail
Unfortunately bad players aren't just in low tier anymore
mossy pulsar
I’ve played Wot Proper for just a bit
People don’t seem to be yeeting themselves off of things much. Nor purposely rolling
While I’m not saying Blitz players are the same because they are very different.
I feel like over time we could reach that level of Normality
I don’t make the game nor do I study the behavior of the players
I dont know if the engine could handle it. I’ve seen it do a lot of things
I don’t know how the players would react
But I think it would be a good idea to try maybe even temporarily
Or a gamemode
tulip sail
While it was a while ago the devs said it couldn't be supported
solid gate
There are two things that can happen. A) This game dies with roll physics never having been implemented. B) The devs switch to a more powerful game engine, allowing for new physics. I predict scenario A will happen first.
lofty dock
well i mean having your tanks roll over wouldn’t really be a high priority nor should they be. instead of the devs spending a lot of time and effort on switching engines, i’d rather have them be balancing tanks or something
and I don’t really know if even having tanks roll over would be a good thing in the first place. while yeah it may be interesting and hilarious at first, it’s not going to be very fun when you or your team keep getting flipped and then killed
light tanks are already hard enough to use anyways, there doesn’t need to be another factor that makes it even harder to use
solid gate
What do you think about premium wz112-2? Seems to be a bit better than IS3 because of frontplate....Good for angling
lofty dock
it’s overpowered
i think most people agree it’s one of the best soviet/chinese heavy clones. the other tank that’s as good as the 112-2 is probably the Obj. 252
tulip sail
I wouldn't say its over powered but its definitely the best is based tank though the 252 can be better with positioning
tulip sail
Its a good tank I haven't used mine yet but from looking at its stats and fighting it. Its going to be a fun one
gentle wasp
it's a fantastic tank. nice pull
tulip sail
Try #platoon-search
weak zealot
Pls buff the VK 45.02B sides i can make sidecraping correct;-;
No
T54Pl: I gonna ram you!
Spi c :FK you mother fck
T54pl: LOL
scarlet echo
The progetto is broken and op for me
glass relic
I wouldn't say its over powered but its definitely the best is based tank though the 252 can be better with positioning
Well 252u has worse positioning than 112-2, because of that lower plate and Cupola, it couldn't do much when angling either, mostly it's strong because of angled rear plate, good side scraper but not so much, while having less mobility than 112-2. All those Making the 112-2 more viable for flexible gameplay as it has an angled frontal plate which allows you to have more positions like hugging a cliff hill for example, and having small lower plate helps you to survive longer, those mobility gets you a good early position.
scarlet echo
Progetto is still good tho
glass relic
Progetto is always good even after it got some meh thoughts after they nerf it when about to release it.
scarlet echo
they nerf it?!?!
glass relic
Yes when it's still in a test at least it's balanced now.
scarlet echo
Wow
gentle wasp
rate of fire and dispersion was nerfed
scarlet echo
rate of fire and dispersion was nerfed
@gentle wasp was it actually, I barely realized it
gentle wasp
yea right before release
glass relic
Like people were saying "oh wow pantera would be better prog just sucks after this nerf" yet when it went on sale all of them says "wow I love this tank, it's so good"
But overral they did some nice changes, and actually not make it having a broken gun, same with Su130pm the speed nerf makes it feels like just a slightly faster russian Borsig.
warm flare
how do I play the amx 50 100?
hollow moth
Play it like a medium, avoid frontline, enemy big guns and too open areas
Try to always do peek n' boom and don't go alone, mostly because your clip reload is quite long
storm robin
Y’all have any advice for the AMX M4 45?
past crane
Play it like the pre-6.10 Tiger 1
Use the speed and DPM, don't bother with the 105mm.
storm robin
So same as the ARL?
tepid geyser
Except the ARL has frontal armor, the AMX doesn't
past crane
Less aggressive. You have paper armor
Push with the mediums and bully them and don't put yourself in front of other heavies.
storm robin
Ah... so it’s like a medium in all but name then?
tepid geyser
Yeah
past crane
GL, I loved the M4 45.
storm robin
Health pool though? Is it higher than other mediums? So far I’m loving the ARL, it doesn’t have particularly good armour but it’s good
tepid geyser
Yeah, it has a heavy HP pool, so it's ok at dealing with meds. The AMX basically plays like the rest of the French heavy line, minus the autoloader, try not to get shot basically
keen escarp
Oof
candid harbor
amx m4 45 is poop
warm flare
no i like it i just hope the 50 100 is better
keen escarp
Oof
static token
dang i feel like my skills have gon out of the window
tepid geyser
no i like it i just hope the 50 100 is better
@warm flare 50 100 is amazing, run it like a med and you can farm the damage
granite silo
never gonna give u up noises
lime rapids
Does the E3 have a legendary camo?
nocturne tiger
How to play the Jagdpanther?
brazen holly
Drive and shoot at anything that has a red logo above it
nocturne tiger
... thanks.
brazen holly
No problem mate
candid harbor
xd
glass relic
Play it supportively the armor only works for some low pen guns, and if you like aggressive play go to with MT line and hulldown with that much armor you can waves off mediums and lights before their reinforcement arrived.
restive folio
Is the Ho Ri line good?
brittle furnace
yes
ancient iron
alright sooo.... would taking the 4% extra armor on the Duck be mean?
livid yacht
T7 OP
T8 meh
T9 great with broken gold AP
T10 same
restive folio
The Chi To SPG is OP?
viral falcon
Definitely too good. And nigh undestructable in tier 6 if played correctly.
restive folio
Then the T8 is meh?
viral falcon
It's like a pre-buff Jagdtiger, just in tier 8. It's kind of surprisingly mobile with a rather amazing gun, which is only just a bit inaccurate, but has very low hp, more trollish rather than reliable armour, and HE-able sides, as well as being as big as a hous, and these tree are not a good combo with that low hp and the lack of the turret. But it has good camo tho.
brittle atlas
i keep dying in the amx elc bis. i need help, scouting aint working for me.
lost tree
Equipment for IS7?
glass relic
The electric biscuit is meant to be played for passive scouts or aggresive scouts(High risk), and also side hugging a tank is a really good trick especially if you want to do it on a HT even on another LT or MT it always works fine since you're really small and can juke their shots when you actually master it.
lyric oriole
In order to do that effectively there needs to be nobody else around that tank. Passive scouting with the amount of armor tier 5 heavies have us much more dependable than aggressive scouting in the ELC Bis
glass relic
It's a last resort trick or for isolated target.
lyric oriole
It's a suicide mission if you use it as a last resort
glass relic
No other choice, its either retaliate or die failing to flee. But yea it is a suicide not really recommended, just for a fun thing to do.
radiant coral
I think, that 5k damage and 1 kill are ok in the jg 👀😅
low rampart
@restive folio I wouldn't say it's OP, it's a very good TD without the sloped armor of the Jag but more agile than it. I would rank as one of the best TDs in the game.
scarlet echo
The progetto 46 is really fun and I love it and it's my favorite tanj
clear bobcat
So is the krangvang line better or is the pogretto beter?
i have tier 5 and am debating to get strv or p43
pulsar cloak
I am looking for someone who owns an at7
viral falcon
@pulsar cloak
I don't anymore after the grind, but I surprisingly liked it pretty much, especially the AT-15.
pulsar cloak
Oh i want to see it in a training room because the data only tells one side of the story
This line is amazing but it needs teamwork to get victory
gentle wasp
the line is god-awful. worst line in the game
pulsar cloak
Doubt
gentle wasp
lol really
viral falcon
I don't know, i'd pick an AT-15 over a T28 or even over an AC 48.
I'm for some reason biased towards it, I did really good in the 15.
gentle wasp
you're also cherry picking a couple of the worst t8 tanks. compare it to something good
pulsar cloak
They are great at what they do and that is running with heavies to run their td.
viral falcon
Did I say it's the best tho?
It's just something i'd pick over half of the T8 TDs out of pure joy. @gentle wasp
gentle wasp
they aren't great at anything. running with heavies causes problems because your armor doesn't hold up, and you also don't have any alpha to speak of so most heavies will outtrade you twice over
@viral falcon liking a tank doesn't make it good
pulsar cloak
I bounce heavy rounds all day
gentle wasp
that's because heavy drivers are braindead, and the armor profile requires people to be, or else it isn't effective at all
pulsar cloak
I have bounced tier 7 rounds and i won the game
gentle wasp
so you're saying a t8 super td is good because you got bounces from t7 tanks?
pulsar cloak
At 8 is a little monster
gentle wasp
at8 is garbage
viral falcon
I'm very well aware of that is doesn't make it good, as I said previously.
It may not have the best armour with awkward weakspots all over, but since most heavy drivers are clueless, it works just fine in most cases. And corner peeking with that much gun arc does wonders.
The gun sings if you lock on targets, especially fun to burn down courageous heavies.
Back then it even had the HP advantage, which was flipped over thanks to the much needed heavy buffs...
All in all, im not saying it's something amazing, nor is it remarkable for some special skills it can perform, i'm just pointing out it can still do better in good hands than a lot of its peers.
Also, don't liking a tank with all your soul doesn't make it the worst, does it?
gentle wasp
that middle part is a huge exaggeration since the low alpha means you have to expose forever to get damage out. combine that with your huge profile and low speed, and you aren't going to have many chances to just farm stuff.
Also, if you're going to say it is good in good hands there is clearly no point trying to have a logical discussion with you.
viral falcon
That's true you have to expose, and it's a drawback for sure. For isolated targets? Not that much anymore. It's something you can push with.
And for the second part, pardon me but I have to take it a bit personal. I mostly agree with you watching most of your debates and arguments, as you clearly know the game, the mechanics, the playerbase, but I have to point out that the manner in which you defend your points is a bit annoying. Saying that it's no point in trying to have a logical discussion beacuse i disagree is a bit far-fetched, isn't it?
I've never said it's good Because it can shine in good hands. It can just shine in good hands. The tank's far from outstanding, but at least hits the bottom of the average a bit more the many of it's peers. Other than that, you're right, thats for sure.
gentle wasp
That goes back to a point you made before, with the heavy hp buffs. if you want to push an isolated heavy you are crossing terrain that might be prone to crossfire, and even if you get there in a fair fight he still has a lot more hp to work with
Nothing personal, but I am tired of talking to people that say such and such a tank is "good in good hands", because every tank is. there is no point in talking about tank balance if you take that viewpoint, and it is hypocritical to say that and then try to convince me that a certain tank is somehow good.
robust kraken
hey can you add the german aircraft carriers from the PC version to mobile version cause germany only has a premium so can you please add the german aircraft carriers from PC version to mobile version
wise moth
@robust kraken Sorry man, but this is world of tanks blitz. Not world of warships blitz, so no one who works on WoWSB is even here
gentle wasp
re-reading your edit, and I have to point out that I am not dismissing your argument just because you disagree, but because you brought up the "good in good hands" phrase. I get that it is not a big part of your argument but it's just a red flag to me, as I explained in the other reply
viral falcon
@gentle wasp Picking isolated targets is up for map awareness, up to the player not the vehicle (maybe only the speed and camo). As for a fair fight, yeah the hp buffs did set it back a good bit, but you still have the best dpm tó work with.
And yeah, look, your point about impatience is understandable and clear.
We may have misunderstood in the weight of that point, and yes, i get it and agree why it's not a good argument.
Take it as a side note i said. The rest are my points about why it's not as bad as it seems, yet still nowhere near awesome.
gentle wasp
@viral falcon yes, but as a general rule pushing up on a tank puts them at an advantage when isolated, which is why it doesn't fit the td playstyle, and the hp buffs punished it as a heavy basher. The DPM looks nice on the stat page but is pretty difficult to put to practice.
understood, probably a bit of an overreaction in this example but past incidents have made me rightfully wary.
wise moth
Fwiw, picking out isolations in an AT8 isn't exactly something you can do. When you go 20km/h, you don't have the luxury of picking your fights, and even forcing a fight is difficult
gentle wasp
to +'s point, an AT series tank is a pretty easy target to the 6 other guys you aren't pushing on. when they see a slow td like that lumbering up to the frontlines without support, the meds lick their chops, and you're just stuck in the middle of a feeding frenzy.
wise moth
Low alpha and low speed is a fatal handicap, especially when coupled with a lack of a turret. Basically, low alpha means you can't take mid-long range trades, and low speed means you can't really close the distance to force a close range fight where you can put the higher DPM to use. Lack of a turret is the final nail in the coffin, because even when you can force a fight, even small obstacles become insurmountable pieces of cover for the enemy to work with
viral falcon
@gentle wasp
Yes, i sadly (or not) only played it before the heavy buffs and it was honest fun, while also keeping it over 1900-2000 avg. damage.
And yes, agree on with the DPM issue, while having to stay on target. Sometimes the 3 sec reload it enough for you to push out 400 damage as well, but still, agreed. The next update gives meaning to the 94 mm gun, that pretty much solves the alpha problem, as well as giving it more pen.
As for the overreaction, nevermind, look aside, sorry for picking it up, your reasoning is perfectly understandable recalling most of your debates here:D
gentle wasp
right, I am holding off judgement on the buff, we will see how it shakes out. discussing the current state of the tanks, who knows, maybe 7.4 will be the turn-around 🤷
Yea I have conditioned myself quite well to root out those words... apologies if I jumped the gun there.
pulsar cloak
Tank meet in training room called tank meet na server join the vc and look to see if you find something new.
Any tier allowed
tepid geyser
You know that you don't need training rooms for that, you can just use blitzhanger....
viral falcon
@gentle wasp
I'm even surprised that i see AT-15 in the top 3 for winrate in 7.3 charts. Probably has to do with the more hp, longer survivability.
And yep, i'm curious as well if the 300 alpha will do it some justice.
Anyway, thinking about it, there really isn't a well armoured T-8 TD.
JG 8.8 may be the closest.
gentle wasp
@viral falcon gotta say I am shocked as well... it is a distant third but wow...
Yea my money is on the Jg to be a complete beast. I am a much bigger fan of that armor profile, and now that it has a really menacing gun... watch out (and this is right when I start playing t8 meds more of course)
wise moth
Jg 88 is actually pretty solid rn, I've played a few rounds in it, and it's pretty scary, and that's before it's about to get its alpha buffed to 350
With 350 alpha, it will pretty much just disassemble anything it can face just with a dirty look
gentle wasp
I would not have tabbed it to get a buff. that armor is a real problem (med perspective) and the gun is snappy enough to shred stuff anyway. 350 alpha seems a tad much.
viral falcon
Agreed. Tied with the pen buff it'll really release a yet unrecognized beast.
gentle wasp
yea I was surprised to see how bad the pen is. I imagine it is kinda in that AT-15 boat where the HP buff really hurt it, but this is a real big buff for it.
solid gate
How should I play the KV-3?
viral falcon
Yup, the two low-ish alpha TDs were always kind of in the same boat, regarding heavy buffs, etc, just the Jg 8.8; a tad more flexible.
solid gate
Uh.. whole AT line was painful. Tortoise is.. eh just like a brick. Slow and thic but bad imo. But FV183 is quite good but nothing special. I thought that it will be better than it actually is
lost tree
Equipment for Is7?
wise moth
@lost tree
stuck needle
Why toolbox
fluid kraken
Give the Cheiftain T-95 250 damage. It doesn't feel effective and I swear I'm just being carried by my own team. I'm slower than mediums and do less damage.
stuck needle
In my opinion tool box is useless because I run a repair kit and multi purpose kit, so I prefer having tracks that are stronger (Take more hits before breaking) than tracks that are automatically repaired faster
lyric oriole
Tool box is preferred on every single tank except Drac. Tool box makes everything fix faster.
hollow notch
Meh, my crew skill already does that, and if I need something to repair instantly, I have my 2 repair kits.
If my tracks get destroyed less by the extra hp given by the other equipment, I think it is better.
Although if I am being perfectly honest, I don't even unlock that slot most of the time.
lyric oriole
Tracks Generally break in a single shot if the drive wheel is hit anyway and very rarely do tracks break If they aren't hit in the drive wheel even if damaged
scarlet echo
On one my matches of progetto 46 I got 106k credits from it
elfin marten
There are no tanks in the game with 1 mm of armor....
pulsar cloak
There are paper tanks tho
pulsar cloak
Wow
pulsar cloak
Oof alecto would reck that thing
hollow notch
It's fun to ram it
elfin marten
Imagine m56 with the best camo rating in the game but thin paper armor
hollow notch
Nah, gimme an ELC EVEN instead
solid gate
Whats jg 88
elfin marten
Jagtiger 8.8
hoary pendant
Oh my god, I just got out of a game where I was on one side of the map and HE sniped a RU-251 going full speed with my Rhm
hollow notch
Centd is a bad tank, 0mm weakspot.
elfin marten
But 0 mm means it is there just to support the other parts that have armor, like the UE57, it has 0 mm on the back just because it holds up the small turret shield for the gun
scarlet echo
Might be arty
analog verge
candid harbor
@elfin marten 0mm means it is autopen for any round hitting at any angle
frail dagger
Question for all of you.
thoughts on the strv 75?
stuck needle
what, is that a tank?
pastel drum
UE57
stuck needle
bruh i think they mean eiither teh strv 74 or strv 74A2
pliant viper
hollow notch
The 0mm on things like the ue57 and grille represent the amount of armor meat provides
robust knoll
T95E2 bundle good?
lime rapids
what camo for the E3 does anggael use?
elfin marten
@candid harbor but it doesn’t do dmg if u hit it, only does dmg if it goes thru the 0 mm to a 1 mm or larger armored plate
candid harbor
grille, t28 proto and obj 263 0mm armour does damage
dunno about ue 57
I don't seal club there
@elfin marten
elfin marten
It doesn’t, if u hit here, then it won’t do dmg
candid harbor
hit the becc of gun
elfin marten
The gun yes, but not the 0 mm with no modules or armor connect to it
candid harbor
your armour inspector broken!
candid harbor
i have to try
elfin marten
candid harbor
after 27 days tho
road to achieve 69 days of inactivity
elfin marten
Lol...
solid gate
@gentle wasp I think that Panther II is good too 😅
upper jolt
Is6 worth getting as a credit earner or is it trash
keen garnet
Is the IS-5 worth 1500 gold? I just wanna get it for grinding creds.
urban trail
Yes. Any tier 8 premium is worth 1500.
upper jolt
So is-6?
keen garnet
Never played the IS-6 but it used to perform quite well when it was on the enemy side
viral falcon
IS-6 is worth when you are experienced enough to run the DPM gun.
gentle wasp
@solid gate dang man nice job! I liked it too, definitely not as good as the Panther 1, but it got the job done.
ancient iron
finally tried out the Progetto 46..... aaaaand a bit odd.... not the easiest thing to get used to having never played an autoreloader before..... but..... I think I did alright given my being new to both the tank and the autoreloader system..... .-.
solid gate
Yea Panther 1 is better but this one is quite good too. For tier 8 not bad
gentle wasp
yea it is pretty dependable, and I like that in a tank.
solid gate
yup I also like it when I can rely on a tank. Especially at this tier
For replays is there channel... #replays @solid gate
Chill 😉
keen escarp
Oof dude
hollow notch
@gentle wasp :/ where heavies engage, there are plenty of placed to use the 10° if depression. On flat ground, it takes gold for most tanks to pen anything but the lower plate making it able to effectively sidescrape even on flat ground, and it can burst the heavies to death
It's not very fun to play against
Mediums kinda get squashed by all heavies, so they have to engage from sides, which does not change the playstyle against the emil.
gentle wasp
again I have little to no experience playing heavies and going heavy side, but I am thinking of maps like Dynasty and Normandy and Canyon, where that stupid thing comes over to where I usually take my meds and completely dominates the game.
Compared to other heavies it poses a lot more of a threat because of the constant armor, speed, and the burst damage. Also the size is a big factor and it frightens me the most honestly.
scenic crest
same
gentle wasp
and the meds get burst (bursted?) to death much faster, because of the lack of HP and armor.
hollow notch
An the mobility of the emil outside of the superspeed is lacking, so they can counter it relatively the same why as all the other heavies.
I'm usually taking my heavies the medium's route to crush the meds, and it is somewhat unpleasant to encounter an emil.
scenic crest
ya especially me in my pantera, STA-1, T44, and many other meds
I think STA-1 needs a buff tho
gentle wasp
"outside of superspeed" being the key phrase there.
Right, many experienced players do, but most med drivers don't expect heavies to come to places that the Emil is able to get to.
pliant viper
Is the isu 130 worth it?
scenic crest
yes
gentle wasp
mneh. it's kind of a gimmicky tank, something to pick up if you want something between the BL-10 and 122 playstyle, but I wouldn't really recommend it.
hollow notch
When I load gold in my IS-X tanks I can only hit them for 340 which is not really that far off if they manage to pen ap, and god help me if they get more than one shot off, even if they are spamming apcr
So I cant really even out alpha them
gentle wasp
what hope do meds have of penning it then? and they are more likely to eat multiple shots. either you poke over and snap off a shot, risking taking a hit in exchange for a not-aimed, low percentage shot, or you expose and aim, taking multiple shots in the process and still unlikely to pen.
pliant viper
I got my stats up in the bulldog and moved up to the t49
Any advice for the derp gun cause I played a few games in
I either do more than 3000 damage or do 0 damage as most shots just bounce or somehow track
hollow notch
The meds, again, outside of the superspeed can run away, or take it wide on them and engage from multiple angles. The heavies just kinda cry in place.
tulip sundial
There’s other tanks with armour so don’t nerf the Emil’s armour, take away its speed consumable or something
hollow notch
I dislike playing against the emil, but to be perfectly honest, I also hated playing the Emil.
gentle wasp
that is pretty much the way it goes with any player in the T49, it is just so RNG-dependent. Just work on positioning so you can consistently have opportunities to have a chance at getting big shots. whether the RNG cooperates or not is another matter @pliant viper
@hollow notch If you're playing your med aggressive you really have no chance, and again, you have to be pretty fast because the Emil 1 isn't that slow and the gun is pretty accurate.
pliant viper
I'm pretty close to the T54 as well but I just don't have the fxp to get to the good gun
hollow notch
If you play your med aggressive. Is that a personal attack?
solid gate
When the emil 1951 goes in the store?
pliant viper
I have like 3 k fxp
hollow notch
@solid gate hopefully not until it gets nerfed
tulip sundial
Emil 1 sucks when it gets circled tho
gentle wasp
@hollow notch no, just a personal note. I play my M4 Rev and Prog very aggressive, going mid on Canyon, contesting the ridgeline on Yamato and Normandy, etc. you rush up to those positions expecting to get in some early spotting and hopefully a couple shots on crossers, but the Emil is already there, in your face and rendering that position useless for you.
hollow notch
Getting CODed is a very rare occurrence though. The emil would have to stupidly isolate itself in the center of a field
gentle wasp
it still has stupidly bouncy side armor and it can simply sidehug a lot of tanks.
hollow notch
@gentle wasp I feel that pain. I take almost every tank to that spot and all of them can do very little
tulip sundial
I bully them with the Vk. 100, if I pin them against a wall I can crush their stupid little tinfoil hulls
hollow notch
Unless I happen to be in my t34, them I'm doing the bullying
gentle wasp
probably up to me to adjust my playstyle but I refuse to adapt to a tank that is stupidly OP... I would rather complain about it.
tulip sundial
That’s the same thing that happened with the Vickers CR, we get used to it
gentle wasp
just because people adjust to it doesn't mean it is suddenly balanced
hollow notch
I'm still waiting on a vick nerf and have given up on the amx301er nerf long ago
tulip sundial
No, but we know ways to bully them
gentle wasp
sure weaknesses exist, but they exist on every tank.
@hollow notch pls no nerf to the Amx.
tulip sundial
301er is pretty balanced from what I’ve seen
hollow notch
@gentle wasp let's be honest here, it needs one
gentle wasp
no no no. it was my baby before the stupid CR came around.
tulip sundial
The 30B could use a buff ngl
hollow notch
It's way too fast for the armor and gun depression it has
gentle wasp
:(
tulip sundial
I haven’t seen many of them in battles
gentle wasp
The gun is kind of disappointing though
hollow notch
The gun depression easily makes up for that.
solid gate
the gun is amazing and can do over400 damages in only 6.9s
tulip sundial
It’s not that intimidating
gentle wasp
yea if you high roll HE lel
CR is just better, it's sad. I really don't want to like it but it is so easy to go out there and average like 2.5k in it.
solid gate
@gentle wasp no with AP: alpha max at AP is 448 damages
tulip sundial
I’ve never seen one and thought “aah, op tonk”
hollow notch
This peeking and rapidly retreating causes fear
gentle wasp
@solid gate pretty sure that isn't correct. it has 310 alpha.
tulip sundial
No, it doesn’t
pliant viper
Why such nub players
solid gate
no, it has 448 alpha max
tulip sundial
If it’s an HE high roll
The only way the would happen is if you’re in a tank with 0 armour, but you should already know that risk if you’re playing a tank with 0 armour
pliant viper
Which tank you guys talking about
gentle wasp
@solid gate what tank are you talking about mate
@pliant viper 1er
solid gate
about 30B
pliant viper
Oh
gentle wasp
ok yea we are talking about the 1er dude
solid gate
oh
pliant viper
Im getting too impatient to wait till black friday
It's still a month away
hollow notch
I forgot just how good the 140 HE was. Poor grille
gentle wasp
@pliant viper what month are you living in
pliant viper
😅
It's like 20 days away
gentle wasp
lol
pliant viper
20 days =30 days
Both feel equally long
gentle wasp
quick maths
pliant viper
Big brain time
hollow notch
Pi=3=e
solid gate
1millions€= 1.5millions
pliant viper
1.5 million= 2 million
solid gate
2millions=2.5millions
pliant viper
I can get the T54 but can't get the good guns, should I play it stock or no
solid gate
so 2.5millions= 1million
hollow notch
It's one of the better stock tier 9s
gentle wasp
not saying much. save up.
hollow notch
At least the armor works, and it has workable mobility
lime rapids
should i play the SU-100 with the 122mm aggressive?
lyric oriole
@pliant viper in the heavy meta save up your free EXP, don't play it stock
pliant viper
Ok cool nasal spray
ancient iron
man.... those Eraser BP44s must be great at selling prem ammo.... .-.
pliant lodge
Please add more ammo capacity for RU 251. I often have to load more gold than usual because of the AP penetration is bad. And I also load HE becuse 105mm HE pen :I
tepid geyser
Imagine failtooning....big brains
scenic crest
blur names and carry harder (also helps if you don't failtoon 🙄 )
@gentle wasp Take note, I am in an STA-1 NOT an STB-1 this is the trashiest tier 8 medium in a tier 10 matchup. this makes me wonder what WG does in their freetime
gentle wasp
makes we wonder why you bother failtooning and then coming here to complain about it.
tepid geyser
^^^
solid gate
what is up with people bashing each other, @scenic crest yeah blur the names but leave him alone lol he just wants to post his screenshot
scenic crest
sorry bro
gentle wasp
blur the names and delete the gif or you'll get warned/muted
scenic crest
I deleted the gif, but that image of mine is real NOT fake, i want to keep it up just for the sake of the flex
karmic nymph
I mean if he gets warned he gets warned, that’s about it
gentle wasp
🙄
pastel drum
@scenic crest literally nobody cares about the battle you posted
scenic crest
no need to be so toxic my bro 😦
solid gate
@scenic crest a. Blur the names if you intend to call out other players. B. Don't use profanity here, abbreviated or otherwise.
solid gate
I think that for battle results screenshots etc. is there channel too... #screenshots right?
gentle wasp
realism
scarlet echo
-_- quit games
gentle wasp
Isn’t wot pc even less realistic than blitz
scarlet echo
For me it's a bit more realistic
gentle wasp
Hm
scarlet echo
Just need more space for more better graphics
solid gate
@gentle wasp graphic wise yeah not so much on the models
gentle wasp
Ah yea but I meant more gameplay-wise
scarlet echo
I wonder if wot blitz can transfer your account to w.o.t
gentle wasp
You can use the same login
scarlet echo
I'll be rich really fast
gentle wasp
The progress doesn’t transfer obviously, because they are two different games.
jade saddle
Actually the world of tanks on pc is higher definition by a long shot
Unless you’re talking about world of tanks blitz on pc then I’m not really sure
supple pollen
Looking to start a fun tank line with fun mid tier tanks ( looking for a line that has good pen and front armor or something that i can bounce rounds ) can anyone help
lyric oriole
Any lines you've already gone down so I don't suggest something you've done already?
supple pollen
Well i definitely need a line with a strong t 6 and t 7. Because i tend to get stuck in that area for to long
lyric oriole
Try the E 100 lines, the tier VK 36.01 H and Tiger 1 are both solid, as is the Panther.
I might also suggest going down then soviet mediums, it takes a bit longer but they get some armor they do lack Penetration though
supple pollen
Throughout all of my accounts ive done the su td line the ussr is line and did alot of the german mediums and the heavys
With my new account i wanted to try the new swedish heavys and the
lyric oriole
The swedish heavies are pretty good, the tier 8 is OP, the tier 9 is ok, and the Kranvagn is focused more on defending itself/positions
supple pollen
French heavys rn im at t 4 with both of them
I find my self finding micro cover and peak and tag somone and back up i dont really face tank people. (If this was console or pc i would be playing td hands down but in blitz there are few places a td can sit and fire several rounds without getting spotted
I just need something that i can win battles solo in if i need to because most of the time my teams are trash
storm robin
@supple pollen I’d suggest the French heavy line, the ARL 44 is downright terrifying in the right hands, and the BDR is competing with the T1 Heavy for most OP T5 tank rn
supple pollen
Well. I dont care about t 1 -4 i only care about t 5 -7
gentle wasp
the problem comes after the ARL. the Amx simply isn't good, and the rest of the line is quite challenging and requires you to play smart and know how to get out damage without getting smacked by everything.
storm robin
Both tanks can very easily carry games; the BDR (tier V) has excellent alpha, pen and armour for its tier, and the ARL (tier VI) has dpm and the literal best pen in its tier with its top gun
I’ll admit that the AMX might be a problem, but it’s honestly more of a medium than a heavy and should be played as such
gentle wasp
it's still not a good heavium. Tiger 1 is a good heavium, Amx is just a sad copy of it that doesn't come close to being as good of a tank.
storm robin
Ah well, then in that case I’d recommend the British heavies? Churchill 1 can do wonders if you’re good at sidescraping, Churchill 7 and BP seem to be more of the same
lyric oriole
You cannot sidescrape in the british heavy tanks until the tier 10
storm robin
You cannot sidescrape in the british heavy tanks until the tier 10
British heavies have excellent side hull armour though, so I’d think they can sidescrape?
gentle wasp
no, you can just shoot the drivewheel and do damage from pretty much any angle.
lyric oriole
Tier tier 5-7 have a terribly placed drive wheel and the tier 8 and 9 are butter
gentle wasp
Also, sidescraping puts you in a defensive situation where you can only get one shot in while opening yourself up to take a shot in the process. with the crap alpha, that is not a good idea.
storm robin
Well... then how does one use British heavies? Angling? (I’ve been sidescraping with the Churchill 1... even got a mastery for it that way... and I’ve been wrong the entire time!)
lyric oriole
supple pollen
Okay American heavys or German heavys. Pros and cons
grand linden
it depends on the tank
hollow moth
German heavies are slower but have better armor, E100 have a 152mm cannon with great pen (but it's armor of works if you sidescrape the turret and the hull), Maus have the biggest armor overhaul (sidescrape every thing as like on E100) and VK 72 is very good for defending positions and doesn't require great angles (but the side armor isn't so good)
Both American heavies are more like heaviums, good acceleration, precise cannons, good DPM and penetration and the agility is very good tho, both share the same problems; lack of armor on sides, frontal armor isn't that great, full of weak points, easily ammo racked (it's literraly on the middle of the side armor, which is flat 76mm) @supple pollen
If you're into slow and armored heavies, go for the Germans, and you may choose one of them based on what you mostly like; Defense, frontline focused on armor, frontline focused on alpha
Both American heavies are second line heavies, then you're not supposed to survive much time if you try to be Rambo
The difference between T57 Heavy and E5 are on the cannon and turret; T57 is a strong auto loader heavium, but it's turret have a bit more weakspots, E5 have a better turret, but also a single shot cannon
With T57 you may administrate better your shots with 3 AP that cause 400 damage, meanwhile on E5, you may block more damage and get more used to hull down because it's turret is very good (it's not so easy to hit that hatch on the turret as it looks)
pure sleet
the only proper heavy tank the british have is the black prince because churchills kinda suck, caernarvon has meh armor and low alpha, conqueror is a peekabooer/sniper who doesnt have any armor, and 215b has a really awkward turret placement and it cant sidescrape
lofty dock
Does the Maus have better armor than the E100?
gentle wasp
yes
lofty dock
would you say its worth it for the worse gun (compared to e100)
wise moth
Yes
lofty dock
is the reason why the maus has better armor because of its smaller lower plate
gentle wasp
deleted for spam :(
I tried to do the maus call
wise moth
@lofty dock Yes, and also, the turret is much stronger
lofty dock
I always assumed the turret of the maus was worse because it was 240 instead of 250, and wasnt compelely sloped
wise moth
@lofty dock The turret side is much, much, stronger, so it can be angled much better, and also, the turret cheeks are smaller as well
*Vs. 340 HEAT
lofty dock
yeah that makes sense
wise moth
Also, you get more HP too
lofty dock
So should I go for the Maus instead of E100
wise moth
E-100 line is much better though
lofty dock
ah true
wise moth
Maus is better than E-100, but Tiger II > VK 100, and E-75 > Mauschen
lofty dock
Im coming at the e100 from the panther right now because I also want the E50m
hollow moth
E100 is based in frontline with high alpha, meanwhile Maus is based on frontline with focus on armor
wise moth
It's armor + HP vs. mobility + firepower
lofty dock
oh right, I forgot the e100 has a higher top speed
I also heard the Maus line (vk and mauschen) was really OP, and then got nerfed
hollow moth
I would go for E100 only because I'm used to this armor, Jagdpanzer E100 have basically the same armor profile
lofty dock
are you supposed to play the Jagdtiger 8,8 in the front?
hollow moth
I never played JTger 8.8, but I would go to frontline only if there's any other good options for frontline
This armor is good, but prammo may penetrate this easily
lofty dock
but I definitely shouldnt snipe in it right
hollow moth
Yes, don't get too far away, but also avoid getting too near
lofty dock
Ok so ill use improved optics instead of camo net then
next solstice
The camo's actually not that bad
silk crown
i’m grinding the SU 152 line and should i use the 152 mm or the other one?
outer bolt
Derp gun is fun but gotta be patient
silk crown
yeah
outer bolt
Depends on your play style tbh
silk crown
yeah i’ve seen su152 with the 122 mm or something
outer bolt
I’m more of a medium /heavy player
outer bolt
I don’t like td as much too campy most of the time, but if I was one 😀I’d be agressive as hell
outer bolt
Sure
silk crown
packs a punch and quick maneuvering but lacks armor
outer bolt
TVP coming so that’s gonna be fun can’t wait 😁
silk crown
ye
vivid nimbus
T72 and t 90 (Mediums) Tier 11 And Tier 12
What's your idea? . i think crazy 😜😜
Undrestand me dudes?
open solstice
What is different in these tanks compared to the in game ones?
static harness
More "balance"
potent forum
The ones in the game you can own, those you cannot 😉
surreal lichen
The tank I was waiting for the Christmas event and the one that they are going to give us for Christmas
lime rapids
what premium tank gets the most credits?
naive jolt
Löwe
hollow notch
Ish
naive jolt
Lowe is based on what i've heard, i dont have one
hollow notch
Lowe and type 59 are gonna be the best credit earners, and in that order. The lowe has expensive ammo, while the type has cheap ammo. This difference basically makes up for the credit coefficient difference.
The t26e4 is garbage that you dont want.
naive jolt
I saw someone get 80-100k on good damage and on premium account (probably with using boosters), but i assume it would normally run for 30k per battle with good games + premium account
lime rapids
i think hes correct
keen escarp
Well he did have clan discounts
hollow notch
993 worth of discounts -_-
solid bear
@lime rapids technically super perishing. But buy the lowe, not in the shop but in a bundle. It will give u 100k creds if u have boosters and premium time for a 1.8k dmg match. Ez
hybrid swift
regarding the lowe's credit earnings, it can get upwards of 110k credits per battle
keen escarp
Ok
lime rapids
@lime rapids technically super perishing. But buy the lowe, not in the shop but in a bundle. It will give u 100k creds if u have boosters and premium time for a 1.8k dmg match. Ez
@solid bear when does the bundle come out?
what abt t34?
solid bear
Its a great tank but it earns slightly less and might be harder to use
gentle wasp
@lime rapids I recommend the T34 more, the hull down capabilities and strong gun make it a more attractive choice to me.
lime rapids
is good 4 grinding creds?
gentle wasp
yes, excellent. not as good as the Lowe but I find the T34 to be a better and more enjoyable tank, so it is worth it.
lime rapids
how much creds does it earn?
solid gate
Cheaper repair cost also. @lime rapids
gentle wasp
the coefficient is 170%, not far off of the 185% of the Lowe
solid gate
Better than nothing.
lime rapids
Cheaper repair cost also. @lime rapids
@solid gate which one?
solid gate
T34 @lime rapids not a very BIG difference but its something, i also think T34 is a better choice.
lime rapids
ok
solid gate
which module should i get first? tiger 2 btw
-tier 9 gun
-tier 9 turret
-tier 8 tracks (idk why anyone would choose this first lol)
i have the first armament upgrade btw (the 10,5 l52)
keen garnet
Hey guys, just wanted to ask something. Should I spend 1500 gold on the IS-5, one of the lockbox keys, or should I just save the gold.
Coz I really want a T8 premium. The Progetto 46 is the obvious choice over the IS-5, but it's in a crate. So should I try my luck with the crate or just save gold?
gentle wasp
don't buy crates, especially if you are F2P or have a low amount of gold. Is5 is a solid cheap buy, or you can save up a little more to buy something like a Lowe or T34
solid gate
should i get the tier 9 turret on tiger 2 before the tier 9 gun?
how better is it in terms of general performance, i can sidescrape well enough
or will the tier 9 gun do just fine? it is just 10mm more pen for AP
gentle wasp
I would recommend you get the turret, the stock one is a complete liability. and yes, the L/52 only has a bit more pen, it is definitely manageable.
solid gate
woah, the way my gun looked changed completely upon changing to the tier9 turret lol
jade saddle
Question
🙋🏻♂️ if I like to play aggressive what medium tank does that very well? And what heavy should I get as my first
gentle wasp
E5 or E100 is the best beginner heavy line. For aggressive meds I would recommend either the 121 line because of the alpha and turret armor, or the E50 M line because of the armor profile and ramming potential.
jade saddle
Thankfully I’m at tier 7 going to tier 8
wise moth
Soviet meds are probably still the best for aggression, Chinese meds are pretty constrained by low DPM except on the 121, and even then, 121 is severely limited by its inability to snapshot, and large size.
jade saddle
I’ll check them out with the current meta from what I hear the Japanese stb is the highest winning medium tier x but I’m pretty sure you can’t play aggressive
Right?👀
gentle wasp
STB can but the rest of the line is second line.
gentle wasp
I'm a med driver
jade saddle
What medium tanks do you have
gentle wasp
a lot. My favorites would be Vk 30.01 P, T-34-85 Rudy, M4 Rev, Progetto 46
jade saddle
What’s your favorite tech tree tanks 😅😂
gentle wasp
Hmmm Vk 28, Vk 30, Hellcat, T49, T92E1, STB-1
gentle wasp
Med/light buffs would be great 😁
Also a rework of spotting. Really looking forward to the clan missions.
solid gate
you want a spotting mechanics rework?
jade saddle
I agree on the buffs
gentle wasp
Yeah I do because right now spotting is completely wack and the theoretical “spotting advantage” that meds and light should have really doesn’t exist.
jade saddle
The man is speaking facts
graceful juniper
is the m6 a good tank
gentle wasp
The tier 6 heavy? Yes.
graceful juniper
but its kinda tall
gentle wasp
The turret is pretty well armored and it has good gun depression
jade saddle
The m6 well generally the whole American heavy lime is pretty good
brave night
M103 can struggle a little bit overall a very well performing line
supple pollen
Can somone help me i just got the t 1 heavy and so far ive lost more than ive won my team keeps dieing way to quickly
viral falcon
If you keep dying and losing in the T1 heavy, then there's no helping you.
Just upgrade modules, the tank basically does everything instead of you.
tight raven
Cause it has strong turret, but hull is also strong and kinda troll but not on sides so no side scrapping
uneven talon
@tight raven it's butt is healthy for smasher boom 1000 hitpoints gone
hollow moth
The what?
solid gate
Opinion on Rhm B. Wt?
calm drumBOT
Yougeilol#5440 has been warned.
solid gate
Nice job diablo 😅
hollow moth
@solid gate Nice TD
It have only 2 cannons but both are good,
The 128mm cannon have a great penetration and the precision isn't bad, you can shoot with sure from a lot of positions, mostly because you have a ninja concealment and a 180/180 turret
The 150mm cannon is the actual star, because you'll do 640 damage in a turreted and stealth tank
You're supposed to maintain distance from your enemies, but if you're also skilled enough, then RHM can be played on second line while using the allies as cover
viral falcon
Being agressive and frontlining are different. You don't frontline in an RHM. Also, using allies as meatshield immediately means second lining, if you think about it a bit. Just to clarify things up.
solid gate
@hollow moth yup I know. I aced it twice. Last ace was yesterday. But I met many haters and I didn't know what I should beliewe to. So I asked here. As I see my personal opinion was right and similar to yours. I love that tank. It's my litlle baby here 😂
Here is proof how easy is to ace it...
woven sentinel
T72 and t 90 (Mediums) Tier 11 And Tier 12
What's your idea? . i think crazy 😜😜
i i like leopard 2a7 and the t-14 armata and the challenger 2
hollow moth
Please WG add T14 Armata as tier 7, it's obvious that Armata won't be unbalanced, it fits perfectly for this tier 😍
solid bear
@graceful juniper wdym but ppl tell you to play hull down, thats the only way to play it. Its one of the best t7 heavies, inclusive of all premiums and collectors and hull down is the only way to play it
pulsar cloak
Any one grind up the British light td line and are they any good?
solid gate
Nope and they are the worst line in game at the moment
gentle wasp
183 moment
pulsar cloak
Not the British heavy line, i want to know about the light line the one that starts at the Sherman not the alecto
restive brook
@graceful juniper wdym but ppl tell you to play hull down, thats the only way to play it. Its one of the best t7 heavies, inclusive of all premiums and collectors and hull down is the only way to play it
@solid bear hi epitome,hahaha
pulsar cloak
Wow this place got quiet
jade saddle
It usually does
solid bear
@restive brook hi
brave night
How can you make 183 balanced I think the tank itself has to change
jade saddle
@gentle wasp you play mediums so which tech tree medium is good for brawling besides 140 and 50m
hoary pendant
Can anyone tell me how I ammo racked a IS-7 for 2500 dmg with my WT auf. Pz. IV from across the map?
glass relic
Because russian ammo rack tend to get detonated easily, especially IS-7 most big caliber guns and TD can easily damage it or even ammo racked it.
lime rapids
how to get t28 defender?
pastel drum
by buying it.
gentle wasp
@jade saddle nothing else really, right now if you want a brawling med you’re better off just getting an E5 lol
jade saddle
I figured
harsh jasper
Is this worth it
solid bear
No unless ur a hardcore collector. The tank is worse than the tech tree 121
distant nymph
is the type 59 offer worth it? I really love the t-34-1 and I think I'll love the entire line
hard nexus
type 59 is a different play style to those meds
harsh jasper
No unless ur a hardcore collector. The tank is worse than the tech tree 121
@solid bear really that bad?
quartz marlin
How good is is5?
candid harbor
it is ok
gun handling is bad, hull armour is ok, turrent is good but it has weak roof, mobility is ok and performance is ok too
it is nothing special, never was
just another wannabe IS 3 tank, that is good against meds I suppose
distant nymph
how does type 59 play like? Is it a good tank?
candid harbor
it is solid tank with good credit coefficient
turrent is solid, hull armour is ok, mobility is nice, gun handling is not good, penetration is alright and rof is meh
tank performs well in hulldown position and knife fighting taller tanks
but isn't good at anything else
distant nymph
eh it's relatively cheap, I think I'll pick it up. Better than Su-130, right?
candid harbor
I have no idea what is su 130 like
lemme check type price
distant nymph
it's 5,500 gold as far as I remember
candid harbor
it is ok price
would have been steal for 4k
type 59 had been in event before
I got it for free
distant nymph
yea I think it was in like 2 events for the past 3-4 years. But I couldn't grind it
glass relic
It's a solid medium with mediocre stats for it's role.
candid harbor
@distant nymph I would say you can save moneh for winter event or sale
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glass relic
But I'd wait till black Friday, which might be worth the wait. Or yes Christmas event/auction.
solid bear
@harsh jasper definitely not worth it as a performing tank imo. I think the 121 is much better
harsh jasper
I see
glass relic
Yep 121B just isn't that worth it.
harsh jasper
Yep 121B just isn't that worth it.
@glass relic unless they buff it
solid bear
We hope
harsh jasper
We hope
@solid bear but I bought it before asking 😅
solid bear
...
keen escarp
Jg E100
tulip sail
I know heavies aren't particularly your deal but you may be able to help with this
Do you know of any tanks that have a similar playstyle as the Dpm IS-6? I really enjoy that playstyle and have been looking for similar tanks to try it
@gentle wasp
strange crag
Ngl, stock T92E1 isn't that bad
Can anyone help me on how to properly use missiles?
hollow moth
Better don't, anyone here want another Arty player on the game
restive brook
guys,why i am not getting keys from the stream yet?
solid gate
BECAUSE give you keys on your account take time (few hours)!!! SO plz WAIT
glass relic
On how to use missile it mostly depends on your own intelligence to figure out the mechanics and the feeling of the missile itself.
Know the distances, predict it, guess it and execute it.
Because no one gonna be able to teach you on how to use it, since it depends on your experience using it.
nocturne tiger
how to play the progetto 46?
glass relic
Play it supportively and use your autoreloader properly and wisely so you won't gonna kill your DPM and making you suffer from being a no no dpm tank, just abuse your clip to someone who made a mistake.
nocturne tiger
Ah okay, thanks mate
restive brook
BECAUSE give you keys on your account take time (few hours)!!! SO plz WAIT
@solid gate why u so rude to a girl :(
solid gate
lol XD pranker @restive brook
and next time read message up before saying something that we had already answered 30minutes before your message
gentle wasp
@tulip sail correct, but I will take a look. You're looking for a high-DPM heavium type tank?
brittle atlas
for the kv-2, should i run claibrated shells for better he pen or what, need some equiment guides
glass relic
Cali because it opens up more options to pen people.
gentle wasp
your DPM is complete garbage anyway, you want to focus more on penning people
brittle atlas
ok, and what colors should i shoot at. Is it effective to should at orange/darker yellow with he, or should i use ap
gentle wasp
only splash HE if you can't pen with standard and prammo.
glass relic
Orange color means you'll splash it = No maximum damage mostly halved or 1/3'd from your main alpha damage, and mostly depends on what parts you HE, if it's completely gray like no any other color you should shoot HE at that spot.
tulip sail
@gentle wasp that and one that excels at bullying meds in high tier
gentle wasp
any specific tier?
brittle atlas
ok, ik about damage vs color, but i was not sure if i would deal more damage with ap than he at some point
what about pale yellow? do i have a chance at max damage?
gentle wasp
use armor inspector and set up HE shots, check out what the damage range is for specific weak spots
tulip sail
@gentle wasp I prefer t8 but ill try t9 or t7 (not a fan of t10)
brittle atlas
ah ok, not sure if armor inspector is blocked or not on school wifi, but i will study. perhaps i will learn where ammoracks are :)
oh yea another brurning question, do i damage modules if the armor is not grey? or do i have to fully pen to damage stuff
gentle wasp
you can still damage modules with HE splash
@tulip sail well from a quick look at armor inspector there is nothing really that specific that I am seeing. Plenty of heaviums but not really any that play like the IS-6
brittle atlas
ok so i can ruin someones day by ammoracking them without fully penning?
lyric oriole
Potentially but you need a huge calibre relative to the tier to do so
gentle wasp
it's not something you can count on.
He is playing the Kv2 so...
tulip sail
Ah ok thanks for looking the amx m4 49 can be pushed to do it but is better at other tasks @gentle wasp
gentle wasp
@tulip sail yea there are some really sneaky heaviums at 7/8 but not sure what exactly you are looking for
brittle atlas
how do i use armor inspector, its not doing anything when i select target tank, im on chromebook rn btw
tulip sail
Basically high dpm heviums with decent mobility
brittle atlas
does it not work on chromebook
wait i forgot about flash brb
gentle wasp
pick the pen set up from the menu on the left side and select Kv2 and the target tank
@tulip sail yea the DPM part is the one that is tripping me up here. let me look again...
tulip sail
Lol same here
steep current
Why not t26e5
brittle atlas
i guess i need to pull it up on a different laptop, time to boot up my trusty school provided thinkpad
gentle wasp
yea Amx Chieftain and Sherriff are the only ones I see with more than 2300 DPM (although Shark is close)
tulip sail
Hmm I've never tried using the sheriff like that and unfortunately I don't have the shark yet to try
gentle wasp
Sherriff is epic. pretty much the best t8 med.
tulip sail
Huh i knew I was playing it wrong but just couldn't get it figured out
gentle wasp
yea the turret is really good and it goes 40 with pretty decent soft stats. basically a better Action X, but without the hype.
tulip sail
Huh so should I be second lining it or should I use it to defend the flank?
gentle wasp
you can selectively second line on heavy side, maybe a bit more aggressive if you have a nice hulldown/farming spot, but on med side you can just run wild. that gun will just shred everything, plus you have nearly 2k hp to work with if you choose to trade damage for distance.
tulip sail
Oh nice I guess I'll have to give it another shot after I get off work
gentle wasp
very good. just make sure you don't face me because I want no part of this now that I have told you XD
tulip sail
Here if i do ill only take half your health
gentle wasp
hmm. doesn't seem fair but I guess that would be a win for me.
tulip sail
Hey its better than all
gentle wasp
alright alright
tulip sail
Only bc you won't know me when you see me.
Besides I have actually fought you before
gentle wasp
👀
gentle wasp
oh yikes then because I was terrible when I bought that back
tulip sail
You got rekt bc our team caught you on a flank
gentle wasp
XD I think I averaged 400 something in a few battles. it was fun to yolo around at 70+, not so fun to get deleted by everything.
tulip sail
Lol I still have the m41 just for that reason
I would have said something but for cert reasons I preferred not to have my ign known
gentle wasp
understood, but I'm sad I didn't get to yolo you. I've found that anything that goes over 60 is a complete death trap for me.
tulip sail
Lol but let's just say its not bc stats
gentle wasp
hmmm
tulip sail
I just suffer from poor choices early in my account
gentle wasp
same. I think my first two lines were Leo 1 and 4202... so yea I was a pretty terrible noob for about 10k battles.
lyric oriole
You also got sucked into FV4202 as one of your first tier 10s as well I see
gentle wasp
it's some kind of conspiracy I swear
tepid geyser
You also got sucked into FV4202 as one of your first tier 10s as well I see
@lyric oriole ayyyy I did that and I regret it lol, my 4202 stats are not pretty
gentle wasp
see what is this???
tepid geyser
Lol I just wanted the HESH
gentle wasp
Did Bushka or Anon or somebody rave about the 4202 back in the day? I don't understand...
Nah I hate the way it looks. 7/1 is so much nicer looking.
lyric oriole
It has a 60% wr for being my second Tier 10 tho, so I guess it's not Terrible unlike my 268
gentle wasp
yea don't look at my stats in it thanks. never really played it much. maybe I will be good enough to play it in a couple more years.
tepid geyser
My stats are not pretty in the 4202, I'm at 50% winrate in it over 200 games....guess that's what I get for grinding it first
scarlet echo
What's happening?
hollow moth
A conversation was happening, I guess @scarlet echo
scarlet echo
Oh ok
solid gate
FV4202 is not a good tank
brittle atlas
bruh armor inspector is not working for me, all i see is a black screen
crystal hare
How do you play ISU-152, I instantly get deleted and I have a 28% wr in it
brittle atlas
peek a boom, hide while reloading, try to stay behind team, mainly assist heavies
i belive the ammorack is in the bottom left so try to hide that while aiming, im no expert but that is my best judgement
crystal hare
Is obj worth it?
gentle wasp
yes
crystal hare
Worth destroying my wr for it though?
brittle atlas
also i need assistance on using armor inspector, its not working got me at all, or i dont get how to use it.
gentle wasp
@crystal hare well if you can't play the line and don't enjoy it then I wouldn't force you to do it
@brittle atlas on the website?
brittle atlas
yes, the website, its not working
crystal hare
Get the app it’s free
brittle atlas
its on the play store right?
gentle wasp
should be
brittle atlas
ok, im downloading it.
gentle wasp
might just be that your device is slow, the website tends to eat up a lot of performance
elfin sky
Is the Leopard a good Option ?
brittle atlas
the teir 5 or teir 10?
i got the app, but its still a little confusing,
i cant seem to find some tanks to inspect, do i need to buy something or am dumb?
ok i was dum
gentle wasp
Use the menu on the left side to select the pen tool, and then at the bottom select the Kv2 (with 152mm) as the shooter and then a tech tree tank as the target. You can switch ammos and select certain spots to see the armor and the chances of penning.
brittle atlas
i have figured that out, thanks tho
gentle wasp
Ah good
brittle atlas
i found that i can possible oneshot a studip leopard that might try to rush me
with my new found power, i can become a terror on the field, for some reason, i can remember where ammo racks are, and not what homework i have due the next day lmao
elfin sky
the teir 5 or teir 10?
The tier 5
I mean its fast and can fire fast but do they hit well over distance ?
karmic nymph
@elfin sky no not really. It has terrible pen
elfin sky
So I have to get really close?
teal kelp
is bdrg1 or kv1 better?
pastel drum
bdrg1. Kv1 is just a shadow of its former self
teal kelp
arl 44 or kv1s/kv2?
gentle wasp
Arl by far
teal kelp
cool ok
blissful wyvern
solid gate
No
scarlet echo
Guys, would the t 34 85 be good for me?or the t49?
iron galleon
I think t49 since it leads to atgm it is also nimble, has high one shot damage for a lt and can easily destroy ht
scarlet echo
Which one will make me rich beside the progetto 46
gentle wasp
T49 will lose credits like crazy.
scarlet echo
Oh god
iron galleon
Which one will make me rich beside the progetto 46
@scarlet echo Lowe or IS6 or those event y5 s
scarlet echo
In heavies I do poorly because of how slow it is and light tanks I'm to fast and I fall in the enemy by mistake.
viral falcon
Then do the Panther - E50M line.
jade saddle
MEDIUMS ARE COOL just throwing that out there 😴
gentle wasp
amen
jade saddle
Amen 🙏
viral falcon
Amen as well. Meds are best.
teal kelp
why does bdrg1 have more armour than arl
little tangle
miss med meta
gentle wasp
@teal kelp because the ARL has a tier 8 gun and still retains some armor
little tangle
T1 heavy has more than the M6 as well @teal kelp
viral falcon
It doesn't. Only tier for tier if you get thrown into T7.
@little tangle
little tangle
i vividly remeber the in garage stats stating it had less, but if they fixed it great lmao
gentle wasp
BDR - ARL
teal kelp
@gentle wasp @little tangle tyty
little tangle
thats funny, the BDR has a bouncier turret even if it would have equal armor
teal kelp
im using bdr1r rn and it really fits me i like good armour, speed, and gun lol i hope the arl will be good
im planning on getting the arl tonight
yea im in a game rn and using it
little tangle
Keep in mind the BDR has the best gun on a T5 heavy, its a tier 7 gun
reminds me of the old KV-1, used to be armor asf and the gun was amazing
teal kelp
yea
gentle wasp
@little tangle by what stat is it the best t5 heavy gun
little tangle
highest alpha, decent pen, its a good all rounder. DPM kinda low, but expected from high alpha guns
teal kelp
How do you think the arl 44 is?
gentle wasp
yea it is a good gun but it isn't the best t5 heavy gun.
Look at ARL gun, it has good alpha, amazing pen, and good gun handling. that is a god tier gun.
@teal kelp very good, and the best t6 comp tank by far.
dim bough
Should i buy back my tiger II ?
little tangle
yea i guess it was a stretch
warm apex
yea it is a good gun but it isn't the best t5 heavy gun.
Look at ARL gun, it has good alpha, amazing pen, and good gun handling. that is a god tier gun.
@gentle wasp i can one shot arl 44 with my kv2
little tangle
Should i buy back my tiger II ?
@dim bough i would, its really good. you do have to know how to angle with it though, it doesnt really get random bounces
gentle wasp
Kv2 can one shot a lot of things, doesn't mean the Kv2 is good and the ARL is bad.
dim bough
@little tangle im a pretty experienced player as ive been playing for 5+ years, i only sold it because of it before the buff
gentle wasp
it's pretty good now, and leads to a nice line. I would buy it back.
dim bough
K thanks
hollow notch
My new goal is to break a maus gun by shooting the 75mm
viral falcon
Armour inspector is incorrect many times btw. For example the VK 72's frontal hull. The same case with the Maus' gun, the 75 mm is not part of the hitbox.
glass relic
It's an amazing tank
hollow notch
Can confirm panther did not need a buff
glass relic
It's a good rock jump for you to learn E50M Playstyle in early tier
brittle atlas
where are the best hiding spots for a kv-2, ik one spot on one map, but thats about it\
glass relic
Every passage way that people would go the most, so you can clicked them for 640 alpha or 960 alpha
brittle atlas
im not a map genius so i need a visual representaion, perhaps just a picture idk. anyone know where i can find that out from?
gentle wasp
Map inspector gives you the birdseye view
brittle atlas
ah ok, i will check that out. does it have like, uh, show where tanks mostly show up?
tepid geyser
I believe you can select a heat map for each map on there
gentle wasp
wotinspector has heatmaps for most maps that can show movement, damage, etc
lyric oriole
Personal preference.
Also play it as a medium bully, aggressive against lower pen tanks as well, just be advised that the tank is quite large so it can be problematic to get into a secure position
hollow notch
Gotta get max shell velocity, supercharge that boi
lyric oriole
Eh, don't have issues leading the shells on it at all
hollow notch
But just think, you would have to lead shells even less
lyric oriole
1000 M/S is plenty by itself
hollow notch
Also, congrats on the pink
hollow notch
I use vertical stabilizer on everything. The less the gun blooms when you start to move, the less time you have to wait for it to shrink. On the panther 2, the bloom is not really a problem so you can run refined, but its already accurate enough.
lyric oriole
Panther II has hardly any bloom in traverse
The aim time is also good so a fully aimed shot will almost always go dead center
hollow notch
From my experience anything other than hitting dead center of the reticle is a miss or a bounce on most tanks, with or without refined
lyric oriole
But refined gun is better
V-stabs is solely for tanks that have poor aim time or poor dispersion upon movement
solid gate
Panther 2 isn’t that fast so It doesn’t really warrant that aswell
hollow notch
But it's also accurate enough so that the reticle calibration difference is basically nothing
lyric oriole
.308 to .277 is not basically nothing
hollow notch
I gotta say, I have never noticed any difference when using reticle calibration, while I end up much more aimed when using vstab when I actually take my shots
But I am one of those people that leaves it to rng and snapshots basically everything
lyric oriole
If you try the Chinese meds some day you won't be able to live without the refined gun
hollow notch
Chinese meds are close to my favorite, and they have my highest hit rates (mostly)of all my tanks
scarlet echo
So close
lyric oriole
Save that free EXP for modules don't waste it on tank research
scarlet echo
Oh ok
lyric oriole
I know it's a bit disappointing, but believe me a stock tank is rough and it doesn't feel good after all the effort put in
low elk
never use freexp for tank research
why would you anyways
that'd be stupid
use it on modules instead
or use it to skip the KV4 line
scarlet echo
I have the kv 4 researched already and played
low elk
that was a joke
brittle atlas
for the kv-2, what equipment should i use? should i use the 2 that reduce aim time or refined gun?
scarlet echo
Reduce aim
brittle atlas
aight bet. and should i use camo net?
lyric oriole
Calibrated set-up for the 152, Rammer for the 107
woven stone
Any tips for playing this tank?
iron galleon
Any tips for playing this tank?
@woven stone i want tips for lowe and vk 100.01p
woven stone
@woven stone i want tips for lowe and vk 100.01p
@iron galleon Sidescrape when possible. You can hull down in the Lowe but not the Vk 100.01p
iron galleon
@iron galleon Sidescrape when possible. You can hull down in the Lowe but not the Vk 100.01p
@woven stone ohk. But sidescraping isn't effective i always get penned and tracked
glass relic
Because you're not doing it properly, and also look at your weakspots like cheeks, Cupola's and drive wheels.
lyric oriole
@woven stone Until you get the 152mm, play conservative, it doesn't have the DPM/Alpha/Penetration to rush other tanks and you should focus mostly on scouting and support until then.
hollow moth
@storm apex less, and also, Panther 1 AP have more DPM than Panther 2 AP
Actually it apples for APCR and HE too
sacred trail
I just bought the Nashorn. Is that line worth pushing?
glass relic
Considering WT existence then it's quite worth to grind the line out to adapt yourself towards a glass cannon experience and Playstyle.
lyric oriole
@sacred trail it's good until the tier 9, stop at the WT Auf. Pz. IV until the Grille 15 gets an actually useful buff.
The St. Emile might be a bit tricky at first but when you get to the that road come back here and ask about it so you can get several takes
hollow notch
St emil is a lovely tank
sacred trail
Yeah, I was kinda questioning my choice when I see a KV-2 pointing at me and this kind of stuff happens
lyric oriole
It's giving you a second chance
sacred trail
I got completely wiped in another game with KV-2 Menacing’s HE from full health. RNG just saved me this time. And I survived
sacred trail
Faster loading speeds aren’t worth pushing the limits of RNG
lyric oriole
Paper Mario begs to differ
sacred trail
How does the peril concept of Paper Mario play into this?
lyric oriole
Faster loading speeds aren’t worth pushing the limits of RNG
@sacred trail