@brazen holly 5mm more armor hull armor doesn't make so much difference
#vehicles-discussion
hollow moth
brazen holly
The angle of the hull does, T62 is completely flat, 140 has almost T22ish hull side
pliant summit
The angle of the hull does, T62 is completely flat, 140 has almost T22ish hull side
@brazen holly no it doesn't. No medium has anything near the T22's side.
The M48 has the same general boat hull shape as the T22, but just like the 140 it isn't good enough to come into play like the T22's does
hollow moth
No, actually it have some V shaped hull, but it's worse than the normal part of the hull @pliant summit
brazen holly
I didnt say it HAS T22 sides. I said it almost has T22 style hull
haughty forge
T62A is better for 2nd lining while 140 can brawl better
pliant summit
But almost doesnt make a difference.
brazen holly
80mm sloped is better than 75mm flat, it can make a difference
haughty forge
Makes a lot difference
pliant summit
The 140 is only good in a brawl against medium/light tanks with poor armor or huge weak spots
Its gun handling means that it's unreliable for any heavily armored tank.
brazen holly
Let me say this however, I’ve never played obj 140
hollow moth
No, I'm almost sure that 5mm don't make difference, even on sidescraping @haughty forge
pliant summit
I have played both the T62 and 140. You can't count on brawling with every tank you meet in the 140. The T62 is better in many more situations than the 140
hollow moth
Honestly, T-62 is more worth
pliant summit
^
haughty forge
yes t62a is more worth but i am talking about cons and pros , not which one is better
pliant summit
The hull sides should not be counted as a pro.
haughty forge
It should , t62a hull sides can be HEed
brazen holly
I’m not going say that the t62 completely destroys the 140 because I haven’t played it, but I do really like the way the t62 plays and feels
pliant summit
So can the 140s by major caliber guns.
hollow moth
On my Jagdpanzer E100, both can be HEed @haughty forge
haughty forge
T-62A: Hulldown hulldown hulldown you have an amazing gun and a really strong turret and good dpm and okay gun depression, you can 1v1 and brawl people decently but the T-62A is better at second line support type of role. Your hull is pretty garbage though and in comparison to 140 it's worse
to make it simpler
pros: strong turret (good hulldown), amazing gun, good dpm
cons: bad hull, fairly tall in comparison to 140
Object 140: imagine this as somewhat an opposite T-62A, your hull is actually not that bad, but your turret? it gets bounces, but it's nowhere near as close to being as good as the T-62A or any other t10 hulldown medium for that matter. you can 1v1 people a lot more comfortably in this tank than the t62a can.
again, a simplified version:
pros: good hull, good 1v1s and brawls, and you get to have a good AP/HEAT/HE loadout (why is this important you ask? AP (5 degrees) has a higher shell normalization than APCR (2 degrees) I believe, which essentially lowers the effective armor angle of the target you're shooting at)
cons: your turret is pretty weak, your gun handling is just mediocre, but luckily you'll be in brawls
TL;DR
t62a is better at being 2nd line, be hulldown when you can. 140 good at brawls, that's where you excel at, don't rely on your turret cuz it's kinda bad
copy paste from hrf server
brazen holly
Nice
hollow moth
I continue my point. Jagdpanzer E100 give equal rights of HE for both Russian meds
brazen holly
How about a 183, which I just like two days ago
pliant summit
But my point is that you're not going to be brawling with every tank you meet in the 140. If you want a brawling tank, get an E 50 M. The typical medium playstyle for BOTH these tanks is second string support, where the T62 is better due to it's gun. You're never going to find yourself in as many brawls in the 140 as you will find yourself sitting behind the heavies firing at weakpoints.
brazen holly
Is it silly I got T62 only because it looked nicer
(This was before all the buffs)
pliant summit
Nah, I got my first tanks because of how they looked back then
hollow moth
Yeah, if you want brawl meds than go get an E50M and ram them
brazen holly
E50Ms are extremely annoying to fight against
haughty forge
T62A hull , full of weakspots and easy to HE
hollow moth
I see no difference here @haughty forge @haughty forge
thick trout
75mm flat ain't easy to HE...
brazen holly
I believe the ammorack is located in the left side of the hull if your the driver
haughty forge
obj140 hull , angled and lesser weakspots to HE
hollow moth
With luck, you can still HE it with Jagdpanzer E100
pliant summit
I really don't see why you're still clinging to this argument mate. The 140's just not as good as the T62a in the current meta
brazen holly
Nothing can
haughty forge
@thick trout saying 140 has better hull , nothing else
brazen holly
On PC the jag e100 has next to NO chance to pen kran turret and it’ll be the same for blitz
pliant summit
The better hull is negligible, like I said. Any differences will only make a difference every once in a hundred battles if you truly meet a very bad, unlucky player who happens to fluff 1 shot
haughty forge
no it wont , 9 and 12 has difference
hollow moth
Still penetrable anyways, only a little part is 80+
Most of the hull is still 80mm @haughty forge
brazen holly
The armour itself is the same, but yes the gun depression is worse
The sloped bit is 57mm while the rest is 80mm
pliant summit
The style of reload, yes
hollow moth
Yes but a bit slower @solar cradle
brazen holly
Autoreloader like the Italians
pliant summit
I'm gonna drop out of this convo before I get any more invested, I wanna watch game of thrones. Long story short, the 140 has barely any advantages over the T62, but the T62 holds better utility to the team and will be more useful in more situations than the 140 can ever be at this point in time.
candid harbor
140 is just a budget t22 which is trying to be a leo1
hollow moth
On the doubt, go for T62
brazen holly
T62 has more advantages over obj 140, I agree
candid harbor
psst 140 has no advantages that are remotely useful or better in comparison to 62
brazen holly
140 does have a few advantages you silly bugger, better top speed and hull armour, but that’s about it.
haughty forge
t22med is better than 140 anyway
pliant summit
The hull armor part is still iffy at best and useless at worst
hollow moth
Lol what an advantage, more 5-10mm
brazen holly
A tiny bit thiccer and better angle
candid harbor
there is no point of having 10 more mm of armour at front or sides on medium
you are not going to play heavy role
pliant summit
But that's just the opinion of a guy who's played both extensively and experienced no difference
brazen holly
I have no experience in 140, I’m just saying what the paper stats and model say
candid harbor
I had them both
don't regret selling 140
pliant summit
In battle there is no difference at all.
hollow moth
It remembers me when WG buffed IS-6 for 10mm more frontal armor
SuPeR oP
candid harbor
gun handling, turrent and gundepression makes life alot easier in 62
brazen holly
It’s very easy to hit shots, I love it
candid harbor
yea exactly, gun doesn't bloom
you just need to point and click
dispersion levels are so low and aimtime is so quick that by the time you line up shot
that little bit of dispersion factor is gone
I honestly don't like it
cuz on leo u need to wait
ashen fossil
how do u see the total dmg u blocked in a game
brazen holly
Can’t
Which is not only weird, but also dumb af
hollow moth
What we learned from today?
- Obj. 140 deserve a gentle buff
- There's no point on get Obj. 140
- T62 is better than Obj. 140
- If you want brawl meds and you use Obj. 140, then you're doing it wrong, go get an E50M instead (more precision, max speed, hull armor, gun depression)
ashen fossil
thats dookie
candid harbor
@hollow moth 💯
@ashen fossil you can check how many shells you bounced after battle
but to check exact value you need to fire up replay and skip to end
also ribbons during battle keep track of bounced damage
brazen holly
Or pay attention to the dmg blocked ribbons which can be a bad idea
candid harbor
pfff
u can't drive while playing blitz and keep eye on damage blocked counter?
my lawyer and past experience with players are gently whispering to make it super obvious that this was a joke
brazen holly
Sometimes no
Ah I see
hollow moth
What type of player that can't see the ribbons with the left eye and watch the front line with the right eye? It's so basic
candid harbor
yes and with fingers spam chat...
hollow moth
Aw c'mon, when you need to explain the joke, then it's not funny
solid gate
VK 36.01 H has 2 guns which one should use?
7,5/5,5 cm Waffe 0725
or
8,8 cm Kw. K. 36 L/56
The one on the up is basically an upgrade over the stock barrel, slightly better reload and penetration values, no increase in alpha value
The one on the bottom is a solid 60 points of alpha increase but lowers penetration and reload values slightly
brazen holly
I used 88mm only, however the other gun has epic pen
hollow moth
I prefer the 8,8 gun @solid gate
solid gate
The stock barrel has 150mm of penetration while the slight upgrade I mentioned goes up to 157 while the other drops to 145mm
I was just asking because I wasnt sure if i needed that extra 7 mm of penetration
keen escarp
The 200 avg dmg one
solid gate
so you mean the lower pen higher alpha one
hollow belfry
@solid gate The 7,5/5,5cm Waffe 0725 can work ofc; the AP pen is good, and the APCR pen is stupid.
Has no HE shells though. I personally prefer using the 8,8cm L/56 because the higher alpha makes it lightly more comfortable to play.
Both guns remain good and the Waffe 0725 still shines by it’s accuracy and good pen. I’d recommend you to try both.
solid gate
I think I'll go with 8,8cm L/56 then
hollow belfry
Have fun. The tank is arguably the best T6 heavy.
candid harbor
m6 has rose from grave
fresh pine
What the
hollow belfry
The M6 is an uptiered T1 heavy wih a 90mm gun.
fresh pine
Send me.some.gold 👍
brazen holly
All heat, smfh nub
I still see smashers spamming heat into light tanks. Like WTF YOU HAVE 80+MM OF HIGH EXPLOSIVE PEN WITH 1K DMG
karmic nymph
After the t1 the m6 is such a let down for me. It’s like the same tank a tier higher. The 88mm gun for sure on the vk, the extra alpha helps a lot and the apcr pen is enough for any arl front plate and whatever you might need it for
quartz socket
i dont know why but i did not like the M103
brazen holly
Weak turret for a American tank but the rest of the m103 seems good
karmic nymph
I liked the m103. The super speed boost and reactive armor really helped it out in my opinion. And when going hull down I just moved back and forth and many bounced. And the upper plate was troll
hollow belfry
After the t1 the m6 is such a let down for me. It’s like the same tank a tier higher. The 88mm gun for sure on the vk, the extra alpha helps a lot and the apcr pen is enough for any arl front plate and whatever you might need it for
@karmic nymph why shooting APCR at an ARL’s ufp? just shoot the turret.
karmic nymph
Cause if you need to I mean. I was basically saying the maximum of what it could do. And if you on the move, hull is a much more reliable target
solid gate
So uhh what's the advantage of Grille over Jg. Pz. E-100? It looks like Jg. Pz. E-100 is way better AT in any possible way
ashen fossil
grille is a td not a medium it depends on playstyle lots of people will say grille over e50m vice versa
solid gate
@ashen fossil I meant E-100 lol sorry, this ome
https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/jgpz-e-100
Very good addition to discussion y'now?
haughty forge
M6 is bad imo
candid harbor
@solid gate grille has more gun arc, better accuracy, better aimtime, better dpm, better mobility, slightly better camo, worse damage per shot, worse penetration and worse armour
grille can keep up with meds, be a sniper or a flanker
jg pz e100 can keep up with heavies, be a second line support or third line support
jg pz e100 is more for holding positions
grille is more for sniping and supporting tanks
both can not brawl
solid gate
Thanks man that's what I was needed
quartz socket
@solid gate true but grille 15 is very sensitive but is a good support and a sniper for your team
you have to be very careful with grille 15 and also find a good spot....
accept for the armour and the 360 degree turret the tank is beast
it was so good that the tank got buffed in the last to last update
i give it a 9/10
candid harbor
i give
grille 6/10
unnecessarily uncomfortable to play
jg pz e100 7.4/10
it is alright, budget heavy tank with wannabe 183 gun
quartz socket
ya depends on how you play the game
jg pz e100 it has way more armour and the tank is used for front line
i am so damn broke now i only have 72000 silver and 0 gold
candid harbor
I mostly hate grille for wonky gun angles and semi rotational turrent
wut auf pz4 feels much better fun tank to play
solid gate
is t10 lt france tank batchat good? i was thinking of having a tank of each kind
candid harbor
@solid gate it is good
but penetration, lack of gun depression and elevation are downfall for it
solid gate
are there any other lt's better? (t10)
quartz socket
out of 10 how much do you guys give M103
static harness
2 out of 10
Absolutely hated it
Gun is ok
Speed is ok
Rest sucks
quartz socket
i got it last week and i did not like it
candid harbor
@solid gate I have heard tier 9 vickers is very good
(haven't played it)
solid gate
so the british lt line
quartz socket
the bloom sucks, the aim sucks but it is effective
candid harbor
yea or go for amurican lts
big gun and missiles are fun
they are expensive to run tho
static harness
The armor is not existing
Got penned so many times through my turret and gun mantle
quartz socket
but the T110E5 is a realllly good tank...it is very fast heavy and also has a good armour
it is the next tank of M103
solid gate
yea or go for amurican lts
big gun and missiles are fun
they are expensive to run tho
every tank is expensive to run if you dont play premium tanks, lets not go that road
static harness
Only tanks i liked in the American heavy tree are the t29 and e5
candid harbor
@solid gate nah some tier x are too expensive to run
quartz socket
damn M103 uses a lot of silver for resupply....I cant reach 100000 silver cause of that
i am facing through it and trust me...u will regret it
solid gate
i call scummy business on wg's part, there may be more and more grind as everything gets insanely more expensive but making it so you can go win a match, get 2 kills and a thousand damage and leave with -4000 money is just absurd
quartz socket
lol
candid harbor
haha 4k loss is low end for expensive to run
quartz socket
ikr
solid gate
i only know about t6 tbh i cant imagine how stupid t10 is
quartz socket
T1 heavy.....the besssst heavy tank of t5
candid harbor
it is quite possible to earn credits till tier 7 or maybe 8
after that it is always loss
(not counting premium time)or boosters
prime lion
Good deal ? Has anyone got this tank and is it any good ?
solid gate
whats the point of having tier 8-9 tanks then? go ride this tank you grinded for 2 months on end and get 4 shotted by a premmo dude that somehow hits you right in the engine everytime
candid harbor
@prime lion #general-blitz-discussion said not to buy
solid gate
and lose 15k that match also, insult to injury
rigid thunder
It's an inferior WZ-112-2, so if that's your kinda thing then sure @prime lion
kindred wren
Yup, the Glacial is by no means a bad tank and one of the few Russian tier eight heavy style tanks that doesn’t have a pike nose, so if you are used to playing with German heavy fronts and with Russian guns you will do well with this tank, however that doesn’t change that it is still a fairly standard IS-like tank so if you already have one of those it’s questionable if you really need another
grave mountain
Can I ask I'm newbie what is platoon 8
pliant viper
Is the e100 a good tank
kindred wren
The voice chat? It’s a voice chat for platooning; platooning is when you bond together with another player and then are guaranteed to be in the same match and same team as him. It’s called platoon 8 because it’s the eight voice chat for the purpose of allowing players who platoon in game to also speak here on Discord in private
solid gate
@grave mountain it means they're asking if someone wants to platoon at tier 8
or if not what Lux said
dreamy osprey
Isn't 112-2 and Glacial the same tank?@rigid thunder
static harness
Nope
The wz112 2 has better armor and is overall better...
wanton lily
other than making amx m4 54 a crate tank you should put it in the tech tree and put the amx 50b tcb for crate instead
graceful rock
make a french super heavy line
solid gate
Good deal ? Has anyone got this tank and is it any good ?
@prime lion I mean in my opinion its just amazing i have the tank and it is so good
haughty forge
it is ironic how vickers L has med armor with light tank benefits...
tulip edge
@pliant viper Yes, it is a solid tank to go for.
fresh pine
What the qhere can i buy that ice dragon?? I don't see it in my shop??
tulip edge
@dreamy osprey The Glacial and 112-2 are from the same tank project, but slightly different versions and they have different characteristics in game
solid gate
Should I research the obj. 140 or research and max out the P.44 pantera
small cosmos
max pantera
fresh pine
They need to add new tanks
tiny plume
They are adding the Swedish line and premium
viral falcon
Next month.
fresh pine
What to buy until then... hmmmm
forest fjord
Is the e100 a good tank
@pliant viper its a maus with easier to penetrate armor and a bigger gun
fresh pine
I got that military budget looking at this su-100y and doing some research before I buy it
tiny plume
Buy it then
bleak apex
How should you play the object 263? I'm about to get it but how do I play it? I've had some people say to play it as a support while other people say to play aggressively.
solid gate
Aggressive is a good idea just watch out for high penetrating tanks it has good armor @bleak apex
rustic tulip
@bleak apex His Royal Fatness recently did a video on it. Highly suggest you to give it a watch
lost tree
Play it like a 268 but front line lol
tulip edge
@bleak apex The whole idea of the 263 is to use its high DPM and good mobility to be aggressive and bully people.
You can use those two features well if you go with your mediums and help them win their flank. Depends what map and lineup it is though.
But yeah, as said above, you should give his video a watch. I’ll link it
lost tree
I play my 268 as a 263 and it works perfectly
tiny plume
‘I
tiny plume
Work
scarlet echo
Will the isu stock gun pen the e100 frontal armor above?
pliant lodge
@scarlet echo no it wont. Not the upper armor
scarlet echo
Really?
lyric oriole
@solid gate play it like a medium support, the hull armor isn't meant for fighting heavies head on. The mobility on the otherhand is way abover average and allows for heavium type gameplay.
Try to take most of the shots for your medium tanks (also be sure not to angle your armor as the pike nose already does that for you). Use your gun to get through tougher to crack mediums such as Chimera, Panther II, or anything with particularly higher armor values before other mediums.
The turret is also extremely strong, best in the tier (and arguably the game), even though the gun depression is not very much to work with, playing hull down whenever possible is very rewarding.
pliant lodge
Why would it pen the upper plate of E100??? Or do you mean lower plate?
@lyric oriole 252u got more OG turret than IS-3
Ngl IS-3 needs a buff. AS it's other Russian heavies are wayyy better than IS-3
lyric oriole
@scarlet echo the stock gun can but only if it fires HEAT at an unangled lower glacis plate of the E 100.
@pliant lodge IS-3 is doing fine right now and the turret in IS-3 is significantly stronger, on what basis do you make that claim?
pliant lodge
Turret is ok but the rest is yeah...the premium russian heavies is just a better option than IS-3. What's the point of playing IS-3 then? (my personal opinions on IS-3)
I don't say IS-3 sucks. It's an overall ok medium/heavy tank. But I don't see the point of playing it when you got Russian premium heavy tanks
Why play an ok tank when you got better options?
lyric oriole
IS-3 has the best gun handling of all the Soviet heavies with 122s, and the penetration is fantastic.
The hull armor isn't as strong but it trades that for the best mobility of tier 8 soviet heavies.
IS-3 also has a really low profile which helps it much more than other options.
Unlike the other Varients, the IS-3 doesn't have a massive weak lower plate.
pliant lodge
You're certiantly right. But I really don't see the point of playing IS-3 when you got 252u for example. I know 252u probably have the worst lower plate but id rather be in 252u hulldown than IS-3 hulldown.
I do like the idea of crushing medium tanks but they just poke load gold and shoot. As there is not as much cover for your lower plate on the medium side as the heavy side.
plus my team aren't really happy to see an IS-3 going medium side
lyric oriole
252 has a trash gun and terrible mobility. The armor really isn't as good as people like to claim. 252u hulldown is way worse off than IS-3 hulldown.
Heavy tank sides the cover is generally too tall for IS-3 because most heavy tanks are much larger. IS-3 doesn't struggle as much as you might think.
pliant lodge
I don't like the hills for IS-3 as the gun depression really stops it from it's full potential.
And I do think 252u armor is broke. Not if you take your time and aim your shots. But this isn't really always the case. The side armor is super troll if you're trying to think in the heat of battle. The pike nose is way stronger than even the tier X IS-7. Making the armor reliable and you know what spots you're going to be pened. I don't feel confident in the IS-3's armor except for the turret. Which I like but again. The gun depression pretty much ruins it.
And if you play 252u like a medium the gun dispersion and aim time doesn't really matter too much. As the 420 alpha makes it a little more frightening than IS-3. I do agree that 252u has some reputation that everyone fears
Maybe a slight pike nose amror buff for IS-3???
lyric oriole
You can't play 252u like a medium it's not fast enough.
252u at range is effectively useless where as IS-3 can actually fill that gap if necessary. IS-3 can close the distance and hit at long range.
The Pike nose on 252u also means hardly anything with the massive lower front plate it has. Need I also mention the driver constantly dying which greatly limits the mobility at times?
solid gate
@solar cradle that is not helping with their conversation out
pliant lodge
EEeeee...I got some issues with the IS-3 gun. The aim time is just horrible as most russian heavy tank. So they are basically equal except 252u trades some gun dispersion for more alpha damage. 252u can't be pened at the upper plates with gold if it's staring at you. However IS-3 is has some issues with that. You don't really know if it can pen your or not. With the 252u you know really well that no one can pen you unless the are staring at the upper plates at a 90 deg angle. Which gives you some advantages over the IS-3. I just think there are better options than playing IS-3
lyric oriole
That dispersion is significant
pliant lodge
Yes. Yes it does >-> however 252u is not a sniper tank tho. Ultimate brawler tank. Meanwhile IS-3 has a bit more passive playstyle.
@solar cradle I don't think you understand that we're just discussing about our personal opinio. Not against one thing
lyric oriole
IS-3 isn't passive at all.
It's aggressive on the medium side utilizing it's mobility
pliant lodge
Yeah but it's just so easy to penetrate compared to 252u. IS-3 is not a tank I perform bad in. I just think an armor buff would help it doing it's role a little better
@solar cradle we do dare to express what we like when you don't dare to with no profile picture at all...
But still, we also got Smasher
lyric oriole
We don't talk about that... thing...
pliant lodge
I think we both agree on that thing @lyric oriole
Opinions on E75 TS @lyric oriole? :v
no comment @solar cradle
solid gate
Do you just want attention or something
viral falcon
@solar cradle please commit leaving the channel, no need to bully discussions you don't have a clue about.
pliant lodge
Who said someone needs to be your dad to make you forced commit leaving 😎
solid gate
Ignore him he’ll go away in time
viral falcon
At least, still better than Egirl 2.0 was😆
lyric oriole
@pliant lodge I think it's very good, great armor, (even the lower glacis is about 200 effective), pretty good gun, a tad slow but it makes sense
solid gate
Why haven’t they fixed it’s hitskin yet
lyric oriole
Dunno
viral falcon
Where is the hitskin mistaken? The side...bed frames?
pliant lodge
No idea
lyric oriole
The side skirts are always red, even if you can break through the armor
solid gate
The sides are pretty pennable wargaming somehow messed up the hitskin and made it super red
viral falcon
Oh, I see then. Same kind of mistake to the one that the Jgpanther had. Back in the day, the TS was advertised in blitzhangar with 180mm thick sideskirts. They corrected it but left the hitskin untouched.
solid gate
Which they nerfed the S conq mantlet on release and messed up the hitskin to cover up then proceeded to literally buff the mantlet anyways
lyric oriole
I mean half of the gun was missing for the hit box on Super Conquerer, and it was the base of the gun
solid gate
Well yeah that could have been fixed literally weegee had been testing it for a good while and still broke that
pliant lodge
Why can still Bromwell shoot through it's own butt again?
lyric oriole
They "fixed" it according to themselves but uh, yeah, it still can do that same with FV201
solid gate
So I have KV-1 and grinding for Soviet heavy line, which line is best?
pliant lodge
IS-4 currently better than IS-7 @solid gate
But IS-4 line is quite a pain unless you got yoru free XP ready
solid gate
Well I have 7K Free XP atm lol...
Yeah IS4 line looks better thx guys
It’s more tolerable than the is8 actually
fresh pine
Whats the best Russian premium for farming credits
pliant lodge
@solar cradle could you stop trolling so much?
@fresh pine the best Russian heavy for farming credits would probably be 252u. But Löwe really takes the cake
If you want lower tiers
fresh pine
@pliant lodge ty
pliant lodge
Btw 252u in store for 8500 gold @fresh pine. Löwe often get's opo-up offers for 50% off or more
I wasn't talking to him I was talking to iHuman....
Plsu ST-I still got a strong turret even if you angle it wrong. Tier X TD's struggle to pen the ST-I turret even with gold
fresh pine
Is the su 100 y any good?
pliant lodge
@fresh pine yes. Y e s. Great tank for camping
But it's quite big and boxy. Which isn't that great but if you manage to stay away from derp tanks it's probably the best tier 6 TD
Only downside is paper armor. And big tank
fresh pine
It's that or the 122-44
karmic nymph
122 44 is trash. Bad gun. Su 152 has both a better 122mm gun and has the 152mm gun
fresh pine
Ty
pliant lodge
SU-122-44 not bad only the gun is really meh.
Su-122-44 got 2700 DPM. Nothing to underestimate @fresh pine
karmic nymph
The su152 has over 3k with the 122 tho and much more accurate
pliant lodge
Su-122-44's pen is not that good. The armor is onyl good if you're top tier
scarlet echo
Has anyone bought the 100k free exp deal?
pliant lodge
Not worth it lol
solid gate
can we all agree that the TONK is the best tank ever made?
static harness
TONK premium when?
pure arrow
I posted this in general last night, but I was really wanting to ask the best way to play this tank, I find it very awkward for me to use compared to other tanks like the AMX 13 75 in its tier
small cosmos
Do 4K in it then ask again
pure arrow
🤔what?
solid gate
How much do you need for the e75 ts?
next solstice
200 3rd class battles
static harness
So 200 battles in a lowtier tank
Even better if its a collectors
solid rain
is it possible to beat the eraser with an m3? my freind says you can
pure arrow
@static harness 👀nice pfp, thats Milli’s “miracle milk” album if you didn’t know
static harness
I know
Thats why I use it ^^
solid rain
?
pure arrow
🙂good taste in music
static harness
Ty :) I suppose if u know it then yours is also good
Anyway what m3?
I dont play that much lowtier
pure arrow
I miss the M2 medium and M3 lee
I don’t use any of these, I’m low key salty that I got the M60
balmy wagon
What should I run on vickers cr and Light, vertical stabilizer or Refined Gun
scarlet echo
Vertical
empty frigate
The sweedish strv 74 vi medium tank will be a giant paper armor potato shaped tank???
??
pure arrow
The sweedish strv 74 vi medium tank will be a giant paper armor potato shaped tank???
@empty frigate hm? Normal or premium
pearl flax
Why tf is the 183 so expensive to research?
royal charm
Its not even that much
next solstice
it really isnt
pure arrow
That’s light work
lost tree
@pearl flax get the 268 bud
elder root
did the new tier ten sweedish tank come out yet?
tiny plume
In October yes
royal charm
That means no
solid gate
Exactly which day in october
gentle wasp
Sometime around the 15th
solid gate
Nice 3 days after as participation award for school
Just for the tank which have you Know the sort of autoreloas gun which shoot vert fast. I's Hé un Swedish line or it is a premium?
gentle wasp
@solid gate the strange-looking rust tank in the video with the rotating barrel?
gentle wasp
It is a new premium t7 event tank.
strange rune
Wait, are they going to add the European panther G with its own stats (not the vk30.02’s)
The “Pudel” as it’s called
Because it’s clearly NOT a prototype panther it’s a panther G model
north musk
static harness
Just remembered why I sold the t57
lyric oriole
T57 is pretty bad right now
hollow moth
I don't regret selling 268, I really don't like this tank
static harness
I regret losing the credits for buying and selling
hollow moth
We all expected too much from our first tier 10 tanks, and when we play them for the first time... Boom, you just discovered that you still have to learn much about that tank
static harness
Tbh
I expected nothing and still got disappointed
Idk why I thought
Let's suffer again
solid gate
I have a question how come you pay full price of credits for the tank but at the same time you only get half your credits back idk why but maybe change that where it becomes full price when sold
That way you actually get the amount of credits you spent on it
Because when you use something or sell something you price it half the price you payed for because it’s now used
static harness
Makes totally sense if u consider the price for equipment which should make the tank worth mor
solid gate
@static harness if you did that then you would need to arguably pay more if you bought the tank back or buy it back for 6,1 mil and then get equipment again
static harness
If you bought it back
Most of the time u won't
get a tank
fully equip it
ACE it
sell it if it sucks
Then again Not everyone has that goal
Even then
Why would you buy it again?
solid gate
People buy tanks back for reasons such as they misunderstood the tank and learned how to use it properly or most likely wanted it back
static harness
But that won't happen in 1 week
It will probably take months or years
So in the end it "won't cost that much" more to get it back
livid yacht
At first I always sold the tanks when I grinded the next (mostly cuz I was F2P back then) but I never sold T10 or premium tanks over T5
ashen fossil
is the 112 glacial worth 6k gold
lyric oriole
No, Glacial is pretty bad
thorny horizon
Looks like a deformed panther
lyric oriole
That's because it's close in design to the VK 30.02M which is the actual panther design
thorny horizon
Big ol commanders hatch
keen escarp
Ok
rigid thunder
Tbf the pudel is an "actual" panther (ausf. A) while the 3002M is the ausf. D which was the first variant put into production
unborn summit
Okay, you have 900k free xp, what are you researching?
jovial yew
183 i don't want to even mess with that line but i want the tank
or i at least want to get to the tort
solid parrot
Holy crap the bt7 is so good that most tier 4 cant compete
solid rain
Its ok
fresh pine
I'm craving a new tank
proven zinc
so i told wg abt a new tank i would like to see. this is what i said.... So i was thinking a tank wit the hull of the Sheridan without the spaced Armour and the big lumps on the side. it would have a vickers light turret, while still having a Sheridan gun. it would have the same Armour values as the Sheridan but have a top speed of 70 and keep the current acceleration of the vickers light. it would also have a bit better camo ratings then then Sheridan does right now, possibly pre Nerf camo ratings. same reload and gun handling as the Sheridan. it would keep the current spotting range as the Sheridan. Now this seems pretty op but as a draw back you could lower the hp a little bit while still keeping it around 1400. legendary camo could be mainly pitch black with a red barrel and outline. i cant think of a name right now but the camo could be sold for 5500 gold and change the name to Sneaky ______. just to change thinks up a bit. would make the mod to the name in the front. would have the same credit coefficient as the m60. however with it a new consumable. The consumable would be called Missile Boost. have a one time use but you click it (when reloaded) and it shoots a missile that had the pre nerf characteristics. make it have a 180 second cool down. Feel free to make changes as wanted but this was just a general idea. now returning to the tank it self. instead of having the massive lumps on the side make the hull a little bit longer. lower the gun depression to 8. Finally, i know this has a very low chance of making it into the game but it was worth a shot. My one request is that if this tank does get accepted and makes it into testing that i receive it and get to test it. Thanks!(p.s the pic is of a Sheridan w/o the spaced Armour)
halcyon thunder
isnt that just a tankenstein of light tanks
also you just can't ask like that to test tanks
and i doubt anyone in wg will even see this
let alone adding it to the game
proven zinc
they responded :/
solid gate
@halcyon thunder they won’t Let him have his dream for now
proven zinc
theres this thing called a ticket
solid gate
Tickets are used for customer support not suggestions
halcyon thunder
lmao
proven zinc
Asked if i could give a suggestion and they said yes .anyways. do you think it would be op? cuz i do
solid gate
Infact it sounds awful with the 1400 base HP if that’s what you meant
And design wise what your describing it’s basically just a worse vickers light
proven zinc
thats the only way to balance the insane camo and maneuverability. and i intended it to be a combo of the two. have the better mobility and camo while keeping the big gun. also the consumable, yes however it only works once every 180 seconds can come in clutch
solid gate
And the credit co efficient doesn’t matter because no one plays tier 10 for credits and m60 shares the same credit co with the m48
proven zinc
i just put that in to kinda add to the content
solid gate
There’s many ways to balance camo and speed they are both fine together mashing Sheridan and vickers together is not a good idea on its own butchering it and attempting to staple it together with an exclusive consumable that has a 3 minute cool down is just asking for no one to drive it
proven zinc
idk it was just a thought that came to mind when i was on blitz hanger and turned off spaced armour on sheri. i instantly thougt..... honestly id rather be faster and have better camo then have spaced armour everywhere
solid gate
If that’s the case just pick a vickers instead it’s smaller has on par armor and is just as fast
elfin gyro
Finally I've found a tier 8 that I can play,the t69 suits my playstyle
@pliant viper that feels good when you finally find a tank that fits your play style
pliant viper
I'm using the t71 now for the event as it's easier to get mastery badges
I'm just waiting for he event to start
elfin gyro
Which event, the one for the E75?
strange crag
Guys, so apparently the E75TS is being given for free (at cost of good games). Is it currently available in game or available from next patch?
pastel drum
its currently in an event @strange crag
strange crag
In asia server as well?
pastel drum
yes, on asia as well
fresh pine
Hows the kv13?
pliant viper
Has the event started?
fresh pine
Us
pliant viper
Well I started strong
I got a mastery on my tiger 1 just as the event started
quartz socket
what is the event...I am EU SERVER
livid yacht
Collect all classes of mastery badges over T5 and you'll get certificates for the E-75 TS
junior storm
i feel the event is hard.... insane actually
because i will get only 30 min per day
to play it.
static harness
Then get a ace every game
fresh pine
About to get these crstes with a guaranteed tank the squad of strangera
Nice im 50 blue essence away from her
pliant viper
Why the hell do mediums keep coming to heavy side
They can't pen anything yet they just come,get killed and spam nub team in the chat
Can you do the event with tier 6 tanks?
I'm not received parts for class 3 badges anymore
Well I'm not receiving any parts anymore
static harness
This is wotb
We also have lights that play like a heavy and heavys that play like a td
candid harbor
@pliant viper tier 5 to 10 tanks are standard for events
pliant viper
Yes but I got mastery with my t34-85 but didn't recieve parts
Why is that happening
candid harbor
you may would have aced it before this schedule
pliant viper
No dude
I was recieving parts for mastery badges from before that ace
I didn't even get some for my tiger 1 class 2 badge just now
candid harbor
could be bug, trying writing a ticket and informing it in discord survey
formal plinth
This is wotb
We also have lights that play like a heavy and heavys that play like a td
@static harness exactly, and tHis is a hard moment for gud players when they r holding front line
strange crag
Why can't a team be decent in wotb?
Literally every 2 games, 1-2 players are afk. Like what the f
candid harbor
git guud and carri ur m8s harder
solid gate
sometimes no matter how hard u try to carry u lose
candid harbor
@solid gate dat meanz u ned 2 git guuder
solid gate
Yes
subtle gulch
pliant viper
I got more masteries today than I ever did in my life
I really need that e75
I calculate that we gotta get around 65 parts each day to get the tank
solid gate
Is spending money on those crates worth it?
You know the new crates that each they'll give you what tier premium tank ot collector you want
formal plinth
sometimes no matter how hard u try to carry u lose
@solid gate once I had 5000 dmg and 4 Kills with amx 50 120, but sadly lost the game
Complete bots in team, idk how they reached tier 9
solid gate
Umm, is Panzer IV D better than Hetzer
rotund palm
An E100 have 930 Alpha HE right ?
formal plinth
Ya
mellow hare
Hey guys
How good is the E75 TS? And does anyone have any tips on getting masteries?
solid gate
git gud
strange crag
I calculate that we gotta get around 65 parts each day to get the tank
@pliant viper u need to earn like 37 each day. What kinda math u did lol?
solid gate
@solid gate so you are comparing a virgin pz IV D to Chad hetzer?
You need 29 if its 14 days
Chad hetzer, bruh
It's 14 days? Thought it was 7. Bruh if it's 14 days WG may just give tank to everyone at this point
You need 29 if its 14 days
So I did todays job yay
solid gate
It's 14 days? Thought it was 7. Bruh if it's 14 days WG may just give tank to everyone at this point
@solid gate true the could've atleast have made it like 20-25 days for us to get it
pliant viper
It's 7 days right?
gentle wasp
it is simple enough to get it in 14 days. 20-25 days is not "skill based" at all.
clear bobcat
i just got tiger 2 and i have stock, which should i get first (im stuck) ther turret ( since it has much etter frontal armor) or the gun, better alpha dmg
gentle wasp
turret
solid gate
turret
tulip edge
If you have the first gun, get the second tier 8 gun first, ignore the third gun and get the turret
clear bobcat
ye
thats what i thought: get the gun then the turret but people are saying to get the turret first
tulip edge
Its because with the top turret, the tank is very good frontally. With the stock turret, you will get penned most of the time.
But if you have the very first gun, then I do think you should get the second tier 8 gun first. I can’t remember how much XP it costs, but it shouldn’t be a lot
clear bobcat
its 21k for gun and 22k for turret
hollow belfry
Get the turret first. 100mm of turret armor on a T8 heavy will make you a piñata for everyone @clear bobcat
tulip edge
Then turret actually. I thought it would be way cheaper lmao.
hollow notch
Can confirm turret. The stock gun has enough pen and accuracy to deal with weakspots
tulip edge
I honestly thought the second gun was way cheaper
haughty forge
stock gun if top gun of panther 2
clear bobcat
ok guys thx cuz i was debating which one to get because i knew the armor was bad on the first turret
hollow belfry
use free exp for the turret.
clear bobcat
:l i dont rly have any soooooooo
hollow belfry
If you already had researched the VK 100.01 P you could have unlocked the KwK L/52 too
clear bobcat
i used on my t49 but i have 3k rn
hollow belfry
Just claimed my free exp vault. Sitting around 130k right now.
haughty forge
@hollow belfry gib , i only have 32k :c
fast compass
Lol i almost got 200k after i claimed my vaults
haughty forge
spent 60k on m41 bulldog , modules are so darn expensive
fast compass
Bulldog modules were expensive yes
haughty forge
I just need enough to get t49 derp gun
tulip edge
I spent all my free xp skipping the japanese med line 🙂
hollow belfry
@haughty forge Need it for the WZ-120 once I unlock it lol
pliant viper
I have 300 fxp
lusty delta
get maus and sheridan at start and u be pro lol thats all i have to say byue
crystal hare
@hollow belfry if you research wz-111-1-4 the stock gun is the expensive 100mm
hollow belfry
that gun is also the WZ-110’s top gun, which costs 59k. I’m not willing to play a WZ-110 with the stock 122. Nice try but nope.
will skip it with free exp anyways
hollow notch
It's not that bad if you just spam heat
hollow belfry
nah the accuracy is a problem
scarlet echo
If you want to buy the e75 ts you will need 9550 gold to skip the battles
hollow belfry
0,43 dispersion with 2,8 sec of aim time just sucks, not to mention the dispersion factors (that’s if you train the crew with gold). Also, 1600 dpm on a T8 heavy is ridiculous.
If you want to buy the e75 ts you will need 9550 gold to skip the battles
@scarlet echo imagine spending 9550 gold when you can get it for free
scarlet echo
But I don't have much time to do all that
hollow belfry
I got 48 parts within 2 hours. Not even doing that good if you ask me.
scarlet echo
Why does war gaming put events during school days? Why cant they put it on holidays or summer where you have so much time to get what you want
hollow belfry
I’m currently studying a lot for school and doing sport yet still find time to play
scarlet echo
Not for me I can only play once on weekndays and only play on weekends
hollow belfry
the event is actually easily doable
scarlet echo
Ok, I'm going to buy the 100k exp deal tho so I can get the isu stock 75k exp gun
pliant viper
the event is actually easily doable
@hollow belfry
Which tank do you use
And I'm also pretty sure the event is days not 14 days which means you need 40 parts daily
hollow belfry
T-34-2, Crusader mainly
pliant viper
I use the tiger 1 and t34-85
I'm having a tough time bouncing with the tiger but I still love it
pliant viper
Yea but I mostly fight against tier 8 with retarded teammates who have a burning passion to go the wrong way and die
Then they say"nub team" "lmao trash*
solid gate
what the hell is this
pliant viper
I think it's a tank
hollow notch
It's a worthless low tier
small cosmos
cheap gold?
balmy wagon
Unsuccessful french engineering
elder saddle
no, it's a weaponised bathtub
static harness
Thats the s35 ca
lyric oriole
@hollow notch it's actually not bad now, it has 180 alpha for some reason
supple bolt
Will F4005 ever get a legendary camo?
pseudo salmon
I think it's a tank
@pliant viper 😅
whole hedge
Petition for a tog I premium
tight raven
A long B1 with Matilda turret? Pretty much?
light blaze
What’s the rarest tank y’all have. I got the entire collection of GUP and the Ram 2 which is almost never in the shop.
tight raven
Nice, cause none of my tanks are rare
hollow moth
JPanther 2, Ferdinand, Jagdtiger, E75 and Mäuschen are known by share the "Maus gun", but some of them have different names for their guns
E75, Mäuschen and Maus: 12,8cm Kw.K 44 L/55
Ferdinand, JPanther 2 and Jagdtiger: 12,8cm Pak 44 L/55
twin merlin
I think the t11oe4 needs a buff in armor and speed
scarlet echo
I found a really weird bug rn
twin merlin
What is that paint?
twin merlin
Go to the setting and click wg support or just click wg portal
solid gate
Should I grind for the Grille 15
scarlet echo
Ok
solid gate
is the girls und panzer skin for the panzer 4 is it available in the game shop or do you have to wait till it comes back out
scarlet echo
Wait untill it's back
solid gate
Ok
sacred trail
Is the British turretless TD line always hard to maneuver at any tier? Or is it just me?
strange crag
Nup, it's good at tier 8 (charioteer) when ya hv top modules. Tier 9 is okayish and tier 10 is also good @sacred trail
sacred trail
HV top? Oh wait- have the top modules. Just noticed.
strange crag
?
sacred trail
AT8’s maneuverability is hard to grip, especially when you’re in a 1 v 1 against a KV-2 with a destroyed ARL 44 between both tanks. On one hand, your frontal armor protects from basic AP, and you can easily pin them on the front and the sides. But on the other hand, the KV has you pinned with able movement and HE (if they remember to use it)
solid gate
Should I grind for the GRILLE 15 or no?
whole hedge
Yes
lyric oriole
@scarlet echo it's just a missing texture, it's no big deal it normally goes away if you close the game and reopen it
hollow moth
@scarlet echo Don't take this as a bug, this "no texture" skin is better than the real texture
prime plinth
Do you guys think that if they added the erb 103, would that ruin the game? I mean it’s like a LTTB but at tier 10 with a 103mm gun. With less tanks at tier 6-8 to derp the LTTB it would be easier to kill a EBR because of the better pen for HE and more tanks have derps without terrible reloads.
hollow moth
Wheeled tanks are too fast for blitz
prime plinth
If they nerfed the speed, it’s just like a LTTB
hollow moth
Then there's no point on having wheeled tanks on blitz
prime plinth
How about strv 103b
exotic seal
why are there so many people not playing this game yet their in this channel?
hollow moth
How would you turn the modes (cruiser and attack modes)? One more button? One more button isn't good for mobile players @prime plinth
prime plinth
It can work
exotic seal
allowing this game to exist on mobile ruined it
prime plinth
Just like the button for auto lock on and off
exotic seal
its wuined
hollow moth
Maybe for PC players, but WOTB is mobile after all @prime plinth
It was meant to be a mobile WOT, if you don't like it, then go play WOT, WOWS or WT @exotic seal
fast compass
Are all the buttons for switch already mapped to some function? That is the biggest limitation i see to adding new functioning buttons
exotic seal
do you relize why no one wins in this game? Because of the crappy phones they have and the fact most are 3 years old
prime plinth
You can change the auto lock on and off. And you can make it so your turret doesn’t move around
hollow moth
Then go play WOT, WOWS and WT @exotic seal
fast compass
Well blitz is for casual gaming. Thats what mobile games were always intended to be like
exotic seal
also if there is a dev to the game in this chat i would love to chat with them
hollow moth
And that's why devs don't come here
exotic seal
why is that because they suck at wanting to actually help people?
hollow moth
Because there's people that wants mobile games exclusive for pc
Lol
fast compass
There is player support for helping players
exotic seal
yes lets all attack me because thats how you were raised
fast compass
Tbh i would love for them to actually optimize steam version
hollow moth
I'm not attacking you bro, I'm just saying that devs don't come here because there's much people without good ideas @exotic seal
exotic seal
i need help with my game not ideas
prime plinth
Then go to player support
hollow moth
Make a mobile game exclusive for PC isn't even near of helping it
exotic seal
i sit in matchmaking for 30 minutes at a time they are not responding to any emails
hollow moth
The player support takes around 6-10 hours to answer
exotic seal
also half the tanks i buy can not do any damage to same tier tanks or 1 tier above even when hit on the sides
flint cedar
is the Is-6 a good vehicle?
fast compass
Since it is a weekend it can take even days
exotic seal
wow that is some great support
prime plinth
@flint cedar the is6 is good if used correctly
hollow moth
Yes but there's better tier 8 premium heavies @flint cedar
also half the tanks i buy can not do any damage to same tier tanks or 1 tier above even when hit on the sides
@exotic seal what do you think about play as TD?
exotic seal
TD?
prime plinth
Tank destroyer
exotic seal
i tried its a no good deal to even exist in game
hollow moth
Then go play WOT, WOWS and WT @exotic seal
exotic seal
I am now trying the French line to see if any of those tanks work
prime plinth
The heavys aren’t that good
fast compass
French tanks require high level of skills to even perform. And french heavies are beasts
hollow moth
French tanks work well if you use them correctly, unless the heavies, they aren't that heavy
exotic seal
i am going for the lights for now
flint cedar
I have had the IS-6 and have mastered it and am looking for some other good tier 8-7 tanks
hollow moth
Lowë @flint cedar
Get it asap
prime plinth
You need really good teammates AND trust in your teammates to play a French heavy, also if you play it as a sniping heavy expect to be called a camper
flint cedar
why the löwe exactly?
exotic seal
that is just the problem with out a good group to go in with the game is stacked against me. I have a line of German tanks up to tier 6 Sometimes tanks work but most of time im shooting and nothing happens
hollow moth
Because it's a great HT, it prints money and have Herman precision @flint cedar
prime plinth
It’s good against lower tiered enemies, but it sucks against higher tiered @flint cedar
exotic seal
I wonder if it is bluestacks?
flint cedar
Oh ok so its both good but bad
prime plinth
Yes, that lowerish plate/bar is weak so make sure to hide it well
hollow moth
Actually no, Löwe is just good, but the armor isn't one of the bests
flint cedar
ye I know thats where I usually shoot. what about a tank like the JGtg or the T34
hollow moth
They are great, but don't print credits like Löwe
exotic seal
is there a table to show what tanks are still good in 2020?
prime plinth
T34, hide that hull!!! The turret is OP and if you use that gun depression hahaha GG
hollow moth
Most of them, just play like a good player and GG@exotic seal
prime plinth
If you want a good heavy I would say get the OBJ 253U but it’s a point nose turret so it kinda sucks if you are a newer player
hollow moth
T34 bullets are too expensive for an intense credit grind @prime plinth
Also the hull is worse than Löwe hull
exotic seal
my top german tank is a vk atm
hollow moth
Which VK
prime plinth
@hollow moth that’s why I said hide that hull
exotic seal
the h
hollow moth
The what? VK 36.01 H?@exotic seal
exotic seal
👍
prime plinth
I remember when that tank was good
exotic seal
i grinded out the BP which blows
prime plinth
anyone remember the MS1 or T1???
hollow moth
Vk 36.01 H is the Tiger 2 of T6
Nah, I prefer leichtraktor@prime plinth
prime plinth
I loved the MS1
hollow moth
MS-1 is overrated only because it's Russian, leichtraktor is the best T1
prime plinth
No
hollow moth
Yes
900 DPM bro, it's the tier 10 hunter on tier 1, leichtraktor is extremely op
What is a FV 215B 183 near a leichtraktor? Nothing!
pliant viper
Can someone confirm how many parts we need daily to get the tank
quartz socket
how much does a ATGM missile cost
pliant viper
And does premium account help in getting parts
gentle wasp
415 / 14. and no
quartz socket
Can someone confirm how many parts we need daily to get the tank
@pliant viper total we have to get 415 parts and the event is till october 6
so in a day you have to get 41 pieces or more according to my mental calculations...check if it is correct
pliant viper
It's not 14 days
pliant viper
You need to get 37 everyday if the event is for 11 days
verbal dew
Can someone give me tips on how to survive battles in the JgE100?
It seems really hard considering people will pen straight through your lower plate or the armor surrounding your gun
pliant viper
Does the premium account help in giving more xp for the parts
gentle wasp
no
sacred trail
This is just me planning ahead for when I do get the credits, but when I do get a million credits, should I spend them on a particular tier 6 tank or should I create a new clan with them? I already have the KV-2, Jackson, and AT8 btw
gentle wasp
buy a tank
sacred trail
Any one in particular? Or just any of them?
gentle wasp
depends what you are looking to get, but starting a clan is usually not a good idea, especially if you are newer and still grinding out lines
tight cloud
The ARL 44 is one of my favorite t6 tanks. It's a French heavy and heavies in general are easier to play when you first start.
sacred trail
Usually depending on which heavy you get. I got the KV-2 and it’s stock gun was rather annoying to say the least
It was plainly all HE and HEAT rounds with none of the penetrating power of the 152 mm D.E.R.P.-powered howitzer
With that 152 mm derp you can plow through anything and can one-shot lights if you nail ‘em in a weak point with HE despite having a dispersion ring the size of Russia itself and a very long reload time
pliant viper
I've got 55 parts for today ig thats ok
I hate it when I get 2.5k damage in tier 6 but then my team loses
broken turtle
droodle said sturer emil got the best gun in tier 7 anyone agree?
i dont think so, how about the 230 standard pen on su100m1?
haughty forge
Smasher has the best gun
sacred trail
For next December they should just give everyone a Smasher so everyone can have a happy, explosive holiday
Very unlikely to happen, but everyone needs a little bit of derp in their life
quartz socket
lol
true but then it will be a easy event for the december like the blitz birthday where everyone could get ann
i dont want crate to be in events cause it makes me maaaad
how much does an ATGM shell cause??
hollow moth
@verbal dew you can try peek and boom at medium-long distance and angle
A good peek and boom far enough of your enemies will make it hard to hit your lower plate or casemate cheeks.
But if there's no building to make a good peek and boom, you can try a simple angle of around 50 degrees while going forward, your casemate cheeck will become very hard to pen again and you will be able to avoid some shots on the lower plate (only if your enemies don't aim correctly, or if you're far enough to make it hard to pen)
Another golden tip is avoid frontline until you feel confident enough to do it. Jageroo isn't supposed to do frontline because of the weakspots. If you're not used enough with this tank, try to be always 80-150m away from the frontline
Don't be too away from the fight because none likes a camper on Jagdpanzer E100, but also don't be close enough to be an easy prey for your enemies (unless if you're sure about what you're doing)
exotic pagoda
I can't take the DW2 seriously because it sounds to much like the character from Arthur
Also because it's a crap tank
hollow moth
Ok, Sr. post 5.5 guy
pliant viper
Getting mastery badges has become insanely hard in some tanks
I got a 3.7 k damage game in my tiger 1 and got a class 3 mastery
hollow moth
Try playing on rare tanks or vehicles that everyone forgot
pliant viper
Can you suggest some?
hollow moth
I haven't seen Pz. 4S, AT 15 A, Chaffee, that tier 5 from European nation, the tier 9 from the Vk 72.01 line, T23E3 and FCM 50T from a good time
Ah Yes, and those Y5 tanks that most of people don't care abiut
pliant viper
Hmmm thanks
hollow moth
Nightmare, scavenger, and some other tanks that people don't care about
pliant viper
Ok
hollow moth
Oh Yes, and pre 5.5 tanks too
Those are the only the ones that I remember, but there's much more
spiral axle
Hey how much silver is a tier 7 tank
I cant find the answer on google
pliant viper
A tier 7 tanks costs like 1.4 mil
hollow belfry
^
spiral axle
Thanks man
whole hedge
WG should add a polish or Japanese heavy line
brisk jacinth
@north musk how get this tanks?
urban shore
Kv-1s or kv-2
brisk jacinth
What is the name of the side?
edgy dune
is it allowed to play and grind to mastery badges with a tank doesn't exist ??(amx m4 mle.) why cant we ?
pastel drum
if you are talking about people testing the tank, yes its allowed.
mental oracle
any thoughts about isu-122s?
rigid thunder
Not that bad of a tank, meh armour overall with decent mobility. Dpm is very high, probably highest in its mm spread. Main drawback is the fact you need to overexpose yourself to fully use the Dpm when not sniping. Gun handling isn't great too which doesn't help it
fast compass
I definitely think so. But balance department doesn't ask me which tank to nerf or buff
rigid thunder
They're never going to nerf it, and it certainly does need toning down. Problem is tier 7 balance is such a dumpster fire that so many tanks need changes
There are many other tier 7s that trash tier 6s around the same degree a smasher would tbh
Not so much with high alpha damage but moreso with busted armour profiles
fresh pine
T23e3 any good?
solid gate
Calibrated shells or gun rammer for IS-3?
lyric copper
I ran rammer
solid gate
Which line is easier to play? US heavies or German E-100 heavies?
lyric copper
E100 line way easier, T32 stock grind will make you wish it never exsisted
solid gate
Thanks.
fresh pine
Is the event tank even good?
lyric copper
E75TS really isn’t just as good as the Tiger 2 or VK100. I can say it’s better than the VK45 tho
hallow thistle
what engine does the tiger use
lyric copper
most German tanks use the same engines
hallow thistle
what is it
tight cloud
Volkswagen 1.4 fsi
thick trout
@hallow thistle
hallow thistle
very thanks
hollow moth
@whole hedge Japanese heavies will never come to blitz, but polish heavies have a chance
balmy wagon
Any tips how to play T54E1? It sucks
pliant lodge
@balmy wagon go wit hyour team select a target. Empty your mag and retreat back to safety. Save your HP btw and go for lonely targets
lyric oriole
T54E1 is a second line medium tank. It doesn't have great mobility or armor so it relies more on the gun and supporting it's allies. Focus more on taking care of lighter armored targets and tracking heavier armored targets.
If you are rolling with the mediums try to stay a safe enough distance away where you have Time to reload your clip if you get rushed. You should still be sharing your hit points with your allies but T54E1 is pretty squishy for a tier 9 medium. Use your clip as an ambush or perma-track other mediums to prevent them from retreating.
pliant lodge
Yes T54E1 is probably one of the best tracked because 2,5 second reload
balmy wagon
If i go with meds, sometimes when enemy pushed on us, and I can't run while my teammates rly fast, it's ridiculously slow when climbing on hill
prime plinth
It’s more of a sniping med like the leopard 1
keen escarp
I killed T54E1 with a Progetto 65 today
prime plinth
Not a complete sniper but a hang back a little sniper
scarlet echo
I wonder what would happened if the isu armor is buffed and speed and rotation
hollow belfry
the ISU is fine. Doesn’t need a buff.
scarlet echo
Really?
cold aurora
I wonder if it would be possible to make the T-55 thunderbolt real
hollow belfry
It’s balanced. Has fantastic pen, alpha and dpm balanced by it’s accuracy, with mediocre mobility and armor.
scarlet echo
I just think isu should have a faster rotation cause it's pretty slow on rotation
hollow belfry
As I said, it’s got fantastic raw gun stats balanced by it’s mediocre chassis. Doesn’t need a buff.
scarlet echo
Ok then thx
solid gate
Should I sell the IS-3 and focus on the E-100 line instead?
The IS-3 isn't very good.
And it would take too long for me to fully upgrade it.
lyric oriole
Don't sell a tank because you aren't doing well in it, just keep it for now and work on the E 100 line
solid gate
Ok, thanks.
bronze pond
AMX 40 for france, and the Chieftain mk6 for british..... this could be interesting
solid gate
Amx 40 is not suitable for the game
prime plinth
The duck was really op against lower tiered enemy’s
cold aurora
I want a tank with Nikola Tesla technology
balmy wagon
Don't sell a tank because you aren't doing well in it, just keep it for now and work on the E 100 line
Sell tank for credits, poor me.
I can't get a lot of credits when i finished my grindings
pliant viper
But the pike nose tanks are kinda weak frontally
I can pen a is3 frontally with my tiger 1
tulip edge
Yeah it’s not amazing, but the Tiger is on the higher end of penetration values for a tier 7 heavy.
The turret is godly though
scarlet echo
I need the isu rotation speed buffed
keen escarp
solid gate
which is better: e5 or maus
scarlet echo
Maus
solid gate
which tank should i grind for: maus or e5?
keen escarp
Nobody likes teddy bears??
solid gate
looks like you boutta kill someone soon
keen escarp
XD
solid gate
fr man
keen escarp
Purge Costume
solid gate
lmao
keen escarp
They had a purge mask in stores
solid gate
damn
keen escarp
Like the barbed wire type stuff.. Like and it smiles...
solid gate
lmao. you bought some?
keen escarp
No i got that and a hacker type mask imma send pic
I was in the dark lololol its freaky lol
solid gate
xddd
keen escarp
solid gate
yoooo, where chu buy it?
keen escarp
Five And Below xDD
solid gate
bruh... i need that s*. finna scare my lil bro with that lmao
keen escarp
God damn.
solid gate
xddd
keen escarp
Hes young or sum?
keen escarp
lol
solid gate
i fr want those creepy mask just to scare kids
keen escarp
lol. I am old enough to know keep the doors locked
solid gate
lmao
keen escarp
i dont scare kids because them heart rate be at 85 to 153
solid gate
true, but at the same time is funny to scare them
keen escarp
And them bpm be like 708
Mr.Beast just posted
Bruh you wanna dm this slowmode annoying af...
Damn you typing paragraphs
solid gate
lmao. ight, i gotta know which tank i should get. so ye
keen escarp
I am grinding sherid rn.
solid gate
sheri is a meh tank
keen escarp
I have t92 gun and engine almost 100k xp..
solid gate
nice.
keen escarp
What tank you grinding.
solid gate
bruh, which HEAVY should i get? f ing hard
keen escarp
You have is4??? Get it if no
solid gate
no, i don’t have is4 but that tank ugly af
keen escarp
WHAT NO!
glass relic
E5 Is better alternative if you don't want to suffer IS-4 line
keen escarp
-_-
keen escarp
You watch peanuts the show charlie brown and peanut head as
solid gate
tf. i only watch netflix now
keen escarp
bruh you pay for that 2.99 stuff xD
glass relic
You can get maus, if you want it's a good heavy but need support to withstand a Frontline.
Unlike IS-4 and E5 it can't maneuver and relocate that fast.
solid gate
which one would you choose @glass relic: maus or e5?
keen escarp
The first 4 letter of his name xD
glass relic
I'd take E5 since it's a universal tank and especially with the super speed boost.
solid gate
@keen escarp snoopy?
@glass relic, so i should better grind for the e5?
keen escarp
Imma go now byee
solid gate
cya
glass relic
Yes get the E5 and keep in mind T32 will need a cautious Playstyle as it forces you to go hulldown for higher effectiveness and usefulness of the tank in the battlefield.
tulip sail
How is the T95E6 I got it by buying the t5 crate
glass relic
Plays like the old version E5 but with weak Cupola, I guess.
solid gate
How to play vk 36?
burnt pier
The crates that are being offered in the store right now for random tier 5-8 premium tanks, should also be available in tiers 2-4.
solid gate
Should I sell my Cromwell B for the SU-100Y or should I not sell it?
burnt pier
Don’t sell premium tanks
glass relic
Don't even try to sell a premium tank.
earnest epoch
@tulip sail play the t95e6 more like a Medium. On pc it is even classified as a medium. I had the most success when playing it on the medium side, wiggling with my tank and using it’s higher Alpha to my advantage. Also utilize every slope to maximize your gun depression advantage and hiding your cupola.
tight cloud
I don't ever sell tanks tier 4 or higher, premium or not. I wanna collect them lol
earnest epoch
@solid gate don’t do it, I did. it in the past (my early days) and regretted it really hard
solid gate
Ok then
tulip sail
Ah ok thanks
sharp siren
where’s leo 1s ammorack because i just got involved into a med dual and the enemy kept damaging my rack 3 times in a row
gentle wasp
static harness
I sure as hell hope they won't sell the amx m4 54 as it is
wanton lily
yea its so mobile with such great armour
upper jolt
If I have both action x and 252 u is the teir 8 lucky crate even worth
scarlet echo
I need the isu rotation speed or Imma rage and scream
hollow moth
Bro, ISU-152 is already incredible as it is @scarlet echo
scarlet echo
I need the rotation a little faster tho
hollow moth
It follows the concept of "Bad mobility, bad armor, bad HP and best cannon of the tier 8"
scarlet echo
Of tier eight but if I see a amx 100 meters on the right of me I don't even have time to move at it in time
hollow moth
Still an op cannon, in every other tank it would be extremely good
Fortunately, ISU-152 is a bad tank with an ultra good gun
scarlet echo
Yup
tulip sail
It seems you might be out of position for that to happen and not be able to deal with it
solid gate
What is a good, reliable and easy to play premium tank (preferably heavy tank) that I should save up gold for to grind credits and xp?
proven zinc
if you want a basic one from tech tree o would say is6 if t8. M6AE1 t7. if its available the 252u
fast compass
I wouldn't buy a premium directly, wait for an offer like the 5.5k t34 deal rn
proven zinc
personally i like the t34 more then is6 but is6 is more nub freindly
and deals for is6 are rare
solid gate
Thanks.
hollow notch
Is6 is not nub friendly at all. The dpm I garbage if you use the pen gun, and you have to know armor profiles of everything to actually use the dpm gun well.
prime plinth
The IS6 is not nub friendly but you don’t need to be a really experienced person to play it correctly
quick anchor
Tankenstein hull traverse need to be buffed ASAP it makes me suffer
hollow notch
Stein is a smasher that is not broken.
lime rapids
which one does more damage when all 3 shells are shot? fv4005 or t57 heavy?
scarlet nest
@lime rapids FV does 60 more
gentle wasp
*per shot yes
hollow notch
4k5
gentle wasp
4005, and it gets super speed boost
lime rapids
cost of the 4k5?
solid gate
Same as every other t10
lime rapids
6.1M credits?
how fast are both of them with stock speed and speed boost or engine boost?
solid gate
4005 is faster no matter what
lime rapids
even faster than the t57 with speed boost?
candid harbor
t57 is very slow in comparison
lime rapids
👌
hollow notch
You can also see the stats of tanks for yourself
gentle wasp
Blitz hangar or blitzstars tank compare
candid harbor
https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/
here it is, to compare stats in tabular format
lime rapids
🙆♂️
candid harbor
sick ballerina moves
lime rapids
lol
nova star
I hope they add a Object 770. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_770
old lance
another is style tank, dont we have enough
glass crypt
we have like 14 already?
viral falcon
I feel like it would be a Wz-113 like tank with those slopes and high dpm IS-8 gun.
solid gate
It’s a 130mm well on pc
austere forum
130 good credit generator in pc
pure sleet
no more russian tanks anymore pls
hollow notch
Obj 777 on pc is basically that. It's just a Soviet heavy that was ran over by a maus
pure sleet
i dont want to deal with anymore superstrong frontal plates and turrets with the smallest freaking possible lower plate
scarlet nest
lol
keen escarp
@pure sleet i am coming with Is4 :))))
static harness
loads 407mm pen heat shells
pliant viper
The event was for 11 days right?
rotund palm
Should i convert 11k gold for free exp?
thick trout
Definitely not you can get free XP easily, gold is much more valuable
keen escarp
I already spent some gold on the free xp deal plus imma get 50k from event i just need one more vict
balmy wagon
What event?
late ingot
i have an idea,why not we make the tracks of the tanks have suspension? huuh? it will make wotb 100x more realistic @glad solstice @grand cliff @stone hill @solid fractal @inner moth
gentle wasp
@late ingot don't ping the mods, they are just players, or the WG people for this. WG has already said they will not add this feature.
late ingot
oh cmon now thats just laziness
gentle wasp
it is being considerate to the devices of their players.
late ingot
atleast gaijin has put in the time and effort of this amazing game : warthunder
gentle wasp
you are free to go play warthunder
late ingot
ok but like im just saying that they should add the suspension
gentle wasp
Yea I am just informing you that this feature will not be implemented.
late ingot
aww man its ok tho
robust crescent
Even know we lost I think this is the best battle I’ve had in this tank
crystal hare
T-54 ltwt is low key amazing
gentle wasp
agreed. It bullies other meds/lights nicely.
gentle wasp
Yea it has really nice speed, decent armor, and good alpha. Balances out the pen quite well.
glass relic
It's a workable one especially with the capability of flanking
quartz socket
yes
crystal hare
81.6k and it’s on the back burner
quartz socket
id T110E5 good...it is an American heavy
gentle wasp
It’s a very solid all around heavy and pretty easy to play.
glass relic
E5 is good and a very nice heavy.
quartz socket
ya it is my next tank, currently in am on M103
that tank is also very fast for an heavy tank with good armour, it is effective and has less reload time
glass relic
You can be more faster with the Super speed boost.
quartz socket
yes
lyric oriole
My only complaint on LtWt is the Ammo capacity actually
I do like though that it makes you more careful of the shots you take though and what ammo to bring to battle
random kestrel
Is it normal that the Ferdinand is 150 k of xp (rechearch)
pliant lodge
Could ISU get more shells?
I find myself having like 2 AP shells left on regular battles :I
hollow moth
It's not necessary, if you shot at least 10 AP then you make enough damage to kill a Maus twice (and we know that you won't meet 2 Maus on a battle with ISU)
pliant lodge
Yeah but the gun is so trollish
hollow moth
ISU-152 can carry 21 bullets, right?
pliant lodge
20 @hollow moth
hollow moth
10 AP, 7 HE and 3 APCR, this set is enough to deal with extremely armored enough (and you probably won't shot 10 AP in one battle)
pliant lodge
BL-10 is soo trollish tho. I miss at least 1/3 of my shots
hollow moth
I remember that I was pretty accurate with my ISU-152, lemme check
79,6% of precision on it
pliant lodge
Mine is 68% :I
hollow moth
Bruh
pliant lodge
My Su-152 is 76% hit rate :I
gentle wasp
Accuracy doesn’t really matter. High accuracy with low damage is still bad.
pliant lodge
Why do I feel that the gun just has a mind of it's own???
hollow moth
Depends, @gentle wasp
Accuracy matters a lot if a tank have a huge reload
Imagine miss 2 shots in a Jagdpanzer E100, then you lost 1600 of your DPM (literraly half of your DPM will be gone)
hollow notch
So? You have 7 minutes to work with with 3k dpm. I sure hope you can manage at least a 50% hit rate
pliant lodge
I just don't like the gun of ISU. I rather prefer the Rhm
hollow notch
Completely with you on the dislike of the isu, except my reason is the lack of a turret
hollow moth
Bruh
gentle wasp
Yea if you’re just sitting there to farm accuracy stats odds are you aren’t doing much
hollow notch
78% hits with a kv2.
"Inaccurate"
hollow moth
78% is great on kv-2
I absolutely don't like the concept of it, every thing is bad, unless the calliber
hollow moth
Usually it's easier to hit your enemies on lower ranges, ain't I right?
hollow notch
Are there any long ranges in blitz?
hollow moth
Depends
pliant lodge
My hit rate in KV-2 is like 75%
hollow notch
Only tank I actually use at long ranges is a leo1
hollow moth
200m in a KV-2 is too far away, 200m for a Grille isn't that far
pliant lodge
Why does the ISU have such a trash camo rating?
hollow notch
I got no problems taking 400 meter shots in a kv2 if the target is stationary
hollow moth
Pfff, deal with dispersion
pliant lodge
I can't go to spots where I usually can in Rhm. ISU just can't deal wit hit.
hollow notch
Meh, 75% of the time my shells go for the perfect center, so why bother waiting to aim in.
unless I am in a mk6
Then the thing only shoots the edges of the circle
hollow moth
The problem of aim in it is because your enemy probably won't be 6-7 secs stationary while spottwd
pliant lodge
I feel ISU is like GRille 15. Heavily team dependednt
And if I want to move I need to move my whole hull. And the bloom goes BRRRRR
hollow moth
Nah, I used to play it in mid range as support, don't snipe with it
The cannon is too troll for sniping like a Grille
lyric oriole
@random kestrel it'ss 150k only if you research it via Tiger P
pliant lodge
@hollow moth I just get focused allot.
My WR in ISu is 48% ._.
hollow moth
"High accuracy doesn't matter" only until you see someone with 50-60% hit ratio in a battle, hahahaha
That why you should do mid range, if you're too near of the battlefield, you'll die quickly@pliant lodge
pliant lodge
I know. But I just can't find any spots
The fact that it's turretless is just making my day trash
hollow moth
I usually camp around 80-120m away from the front, but mostly because I'm used to this tank
If I didn't sell it, I could help you to play with ISU
hollow notch
@hollow moth if your hit rate is that bad, it is not the fault of the gun
Not necessarily yours
hollow moth
But now* the hit rate matters, ain't I right? Hahahahahaha
hollow notch
Yes, but that is user error
pliant lodge
@hollow moth would be amazing one day
hollow moth
Well, I got the answer that I wanted @hollow notch
When I start to play again I'll grind some credits to help you with ISU, I might miss that tank a bit @pliant lodge
pliant lodge
I just got "scout" in ISu ._.
hollow moth
Then something went really wrong during the battle
hollow notch
NICE, that's why i suck in most TDs
I am far too aggressive for the hp pool they have.
hollow moth
Mid-far range is usually the perfect range for a TD, you need to be patient and choose correctly your preys
random kestrel
Ok
hollow notch
What's wrong with frontlineing in my rhm?
hollow moth
HE? @hollow notch
hollow notch
Only peek when they are reloading
hollow moth
Well, what if there's an enemy sniper?
pliant lodge
A full HP Leopard PTA can't take down a 400HP 704....
And we lose
This game finds new ways to fcking surprise me even tho I've seent he most ludicrous losses
hollow moth
?
solid gate
@pliant lodge don't tell me, this morning I lost at least 5 battles for literally plain incompetence of some capable vehicles but driven by toons
pliant lodge
WR in ISU is still trash :I
hollow notch
Play a 252u. Much better for brutalizing noobs
karmic nymph
That Leo just had to look at the 704 and shoot it twice. It didn’t even have to worry about taking a hit
hollow notch
Or 2
solid gate
I can't stand T92E1, he has too much pen unlike T49, he inflicts too much damage for a light tank, even less skilled players can use it without problems. And that's not counting ATGM.
Look, a fake 152 mm gun on a 76 mm equipped tank has missiles, and Kpfpz 70 which used them for real has not got them. Coherence
jade saddle
Hi I’m new
thick trout
Hi new I'm dad 👋
jade saddle
So I’ve been playing over a year now and I just don’t know what line I want to fully commit too I prefer medium tanks and with the games current meta idk which one would be best to work with
thick trout
What lines have you started playing and how far down them are you?
jade saddle
Well for Russians I’ve gone too t-43 and for British I’ve gone to the comet and for Chinese I got to the t-34-1
Btw that tier 7 Chinese is a machine
crystal hare
It is
jade saddle
I actually enjoyed it a lot but idk if dpm or pure alpha is better
But I feel like the Chinese have both worlds, I want to try the Japanese line but from what I hear the whole line is bad but tier x
tight cloud
Japanese isn't recommended as the first line to grind to tier X. Russian are generally easier.
jade saddle
Noted
thick trout
The Chinese med line is a very long and painful grind unless you have lots of free XP stored up, especially the tier 9 but they are all decent tanks if a little weird to play. Russian med line is always a solid choice, T-44 is a bit of a grind as well I think but nowhere near as bad as the Chinese, and the Brit meds are a pretty long grind for not much reward at the end of it too
viral falcon
Stock T54 is a painful grind as well, so stock up quite an amount of free XP
thick trout
I can't remember having too many problems with the stock T54 but it was a long long time ago, tier 9 tech tree grinds are pretty much always long and painful but the Russian line gets you very solid tanks out of it.
viral falcon
You start with a 175 mm pen gun boasting awful dpm. The turret is ~30k, and only then can you proceed to one of the 59K guns. Other than that, there is the 30K engine, which you have yet to be researched if you didn't grind the LTWT before, and without it the T54 is more sluggish than it's comfortable to play with. So i'd say it's just as bad as any other T9 med stock grind😅
hollow notch
The t54 actually has usable armor while stock, while also being very small. You had to deal with the same gun a tier down, you just have to get a bit spammier with the gold. It has useable mobility as well.
The other meds are either really slow with big weakspots(e50 and cent7), or painfully slow with 0 armor (leopta and standard)
viral falcon
Okay, you're right about that. For the stock T54, the gun is the biggest drawback.
crystal hare
@viral falcon that’s only 90k compared to the wz120s 150k
viral falcon
Well, the Wz grind is... A different beast.
jade saddle
Well thanks guys I’ve learned a lot
I suppose I’ll just have to stick with one and grind hard
cinder bluff
wz td is the most underrated line
hollow moth
Type 62 is pretty underrated tho, I see a lot of people complain "uhhh the Dracula is too op against light tanks", but Type 62 is a light that literraly DPM out the Drac
Also, it's a light tank with a 250mm pen HEAT
solid gate
In the sense the type 62 is literally OP for a light and I used drac for a long time
scarlet echo
How good is the t28 prototype?
old lance
below average
scarlet echo
Oof really?
solid gate
Both t28s are bad
hollow notch
@hollow moth you forgot to mention the stealth and viewrange of the type 62. It is far superior to a Dracula
solid gate
Also type being low profile and sloped
hollow notch
The HE shells are really freaking good when you get to use them.
solid gate
The alpha for the HE is really good too
hollow moth
Dracula is nothing compared to Type 62