vehicles-discussion

[keen escarp]

Wow

[tiny plume]

@mint aurora turret and fun first

[mint aurora]

I got the turret and now going for gun..

The Stock gun IS not Bad..already had some good battles over 3000+ dmg

[keen escarp]

Everyone new tank in stores

Kv 5, Su100y and Su-122-44 NA server.

[haughty forge]

buy su122 44 if u dont have credit grinder

[hollow belfry]

The 122-44 is kind of pointless since the T25 AT and Jagdpanther got buffed

[fast compass]

^ 122-44 is fun. But i wouldn't go out of my way to buy it.

[haughty forge]

@hollow belfry tru , personally i would enrich jagdpanther if i could instead of buying Su122 44 , it is sad that i finished the grind and jagdpanther was buffed, it was kinda garbage before

[hollow belfry]

260mm of effective thickness on the ufp when hulldown is appreciable at T7

[haughty forge]

@hollow belfry was it garbage before buff? becuz i dont remember , also u dont rly need more gun dep on su 122 44 becuz it is small

[hollow belfry]

Gun depression extensively limits your flexibility on uneven terrain even if you are in a small tank

Paying to get a tank with questionable accuracy and pen along with 4 degrees of gun dep is a no-go

[haughty forge]

i got it for free last year tho , which tank did u got when there was event for t23e3, at 15 a and su 122 44 @hollow belfry . @fast compass

[fast compass]

I chose the same. I needed a credit grinder which wasn't the sentinel

[hollow belfry]

I was taking a break at that time. Not interested in any of the 3 tanks.

[haughty forge]

what do u guys think abt stb line tanks

[hollow belfry]

I loved the Chi-Ri, STB is god tier and the type 61 is good. The rest was bad to mediocre

[keen escarp]

I have all of those tank i have kv5 su 122 44 and Su100y

[hollow belfry]

The KV-5 is such a joke

[pliant viper]

I'm soo happy,I just got the mastery on the T34-85,around 2.6 k damage

[solid gate]

@solid gate @pliant viper #screenshots exists

[pliant viper]

Oh

[solid gate]

Happy about that one , pretty sure it should be a #1 in the HOF

[fast compass]

Yeah looks like it. Do you have 5.5k career games? You could send it to blitzstars

[solid gate]

Yeah I have 7k battles and I sent an email to [e-mail]

[solid gate]

New glitch?

[haughty forge]

@solid gate nah ,u got in candy land

[inner hawk]

VK 72 01 k or Maus?

[mental violet]

Maus

[inner hawk]

vk have armor?

[upbeat spindle]

It's so weird. On the Pz V/IV, the gun depression says 10 degrees. However when i play it, it doesn't feel like 10 at all, feels more like 2. Anybody know why?

[haughty forge]

@upbeat spindle because ur tank is tall and turret is middle placed

[upbeat spindle]

Okay so would that mean that if i turn my turret sideways towards the left or right, i will get more gun depression?

Thanks btw.

[haughty forge]

@upbeat spindle yes , vk 90 0p gets 4 depression on front , 10 on sides , same goes to fv215b

[restive ravine]

Should I go for Maus line or E100 line ? The tier 6 VK 30.01P seems not to be good compare to VK 36.01H ?

[haughty forge]

@restive ravine Maus is better than e100 and e100 is ok , e100 line is easier and op

[restive ravine]

🤔 ok, and what about their tier 6 ?

I heard VK 36.01H better than VK 30.01P, more easier like you side ? The heavy got a good frontal armor

[haughty forge]

vk 36 is op and def better than vk 30 p

[restive ravine]

Ok tank you. I will go for E100 so seems good to me haha

[hollow belfry]

The VK 36 is really good, as the VK 30.01 OP is.

Strong turret and ok hull with good sides, workable gun depression and excellent mobility (24hp/ton and goes 60)

[gentle wasp]

Punchy German gun as well

[hollow belfry]

Yep. The KwK L/56 feels derpy at times but it provides an appreciable alpha

[haughty forge]

i like T34 85 more than vk 30 01 p

[hollow belfry]

The VK 30.01 gets a degree more of gun dep, the turret is imo better and has a tad more alpha

[haughty forge]

t34 85 haas better turret imo

[rapid orchid]

Yep, and both are good tanks

[hollow belfry]

With higher pen guns you can punch through a T-34-85’s front like butter, while with against a VK 30.01 you will have to aim for the cupola, due to the thick gun mantlet covering most of the front.

[rapid orchid]

All T 34 front armor is just 90mm so anyone can pen it easily

[brisk jacinth]

I soon have the E100

[haughty forge]

@rapid orchid we r talking abt turret, both tanks does not have good front armor , @hollow belfry idk i bounced t34 85 turret twice on smasher CS Heat

ah i got stomachache 😐

[hollow belfry]

That’s likely to happen if he hits the autobounce angles on the sides. A VK 30.01 P would’ve gotten a similar results with it’s large mantlet.

[haughty forge]

i think it hit gun

[hollow belfry]

The barrel counts as spaced armor then. In such cases pretty much any tank would have bounced those shots.

[haughty forge]

ah nice , my stomachache is gone now

[hollow belfry]

For instance if you are in a T29 you can just shoot a T-34-85’s turret front and pen it easily. Against a VK 30.01 you will have to try aiming for the cupola.

[limber sonnet]

When Kranvagn Line will come? And the battle pas?

[hollow belfry]

After the the battle pass I believe. Not sure though

[haughty forge]

@hollow belfry it should be after end of autumn season

[limber sonnet]

Ok

[hollow belfry]

The Kranvagn won’t be that good though

[limber sonnet]

Yes I now it was nerf in test in 7.2

[kindred wren]

I wouldn’t be too quick to judge, it has a really good turret and upper hull armour, especially when using the gundepression. That can stall the enemy team when positioned correctly

[hollow belfry]

The upper plate is only good when using the gun dep, and it’s bad side armor/bad mobility/worst in tier dpm will make it easy to push and very team dependent.

[kindred wren]

You can counter pushes by careful shell management

[haughty forge]

dpm is not even 2k tho , anyway it is in still test so why judge it?

[kindred wren]

It’s about as team dependent as any heavily armoured tank anyways, you want some people with you to prevent the enemy from pushing you so you can show them only the strongest pieces of your armour. I think it’ll do just fine with that armour and autoreloader combination

[hollow notch]

2k dpm. With the ability to store 1200 of it for later

[gentle wasp]

DPM doesn’t really matter, especially when it is an autoreloader heavy with strong armor.

[meager coral]

it has 2200 dpm wtf are you talking about

[gentle wasp]

Blitzstars and blitz hangar seem to calculate DPM differently

[meager coral]

Prob due to provisions and vents. My B

[gentle wasp]

Both platforms include those. Probably just a timing/situational issue

[meager coral]

Hold on lemme do some math

[kindred wren]

You can calculate the dpm for single-shot for all shells and for magazine

[meager coral]

If your just firing the first shell your reaching 2043 dpm which is the number that hanger is showin

[kindred wren]

For example the Progetto 46 has higher single-shot dpm and the Panterra has higher magazine dpm (or vice versa, my memory is kind of bad in that regard), but the difference is really small

First shell is when the magazine is empty, right?

[meager coral]

Yes

[kindred wren]

Note that the Panterra has higher dpm when firing the third shell/ when full

[solid gate]

whats the reloads for progetto

[meager coral]

Longer than the Pantera

[kindred wren]

still upset about how WG implemented autoreloaders on most tanks

Progetto deals 15 alpha extra though, 240 as opposed to 225, which boosts its dpm considerably. The pure reload is kind of misleading because of that, the Panterra outreloads the Progetto in all regards if I’m not mistaken

Let me get some stats, I should stop talking from my memory

I marked some stats that are are quite relevant for the dpm

The Progetto actually outreloads the Panterra on the first shell/ when empty

[gentle wasp]

So Progetto would be better (DPM-wise) in a pure brawl where you’re shooting as soon as reloaded right?

[kindred wren]

Yes, but you really shouldn’t do that in the Panterra, instead you should shoot with a full magazine until you can kill the enemy, then the dpm difference between the two is insignificant (Progetto is still better) and the alpha difference is what might spell your doom

[gentle wasp]

Right, so what is the Pantera better at? Shooting off two? Because prog is better shooting one and dumping the clip.

[eternal salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt6JW6aavFc I do love the progetto, but its impossible to ace it. here is an example

[gentle wasp]

4K damage and 1200 base will not get you a mastery in most t8 tanks, especially not in one of the best t8 tanks that has just been sold.

[eternal salmon]

especially progetto

[gentle wasp]

Yea so it’s not impossible, you just didn’t have a good enough game
Also post this in #replays

[eternal salmon]

but is was such a cleen one

[haughty forge]

i remember 5k dmg got me 3rd class on conway ._.

[eternal salmon]

lol

[haughty forge]

and 4k one got 2nd class ._.

[kindred wren]

The Panterra... has worse armour... uhm... worse intraclip... can’t just shoot whenever ready.... has less alpha... worse depression... turns slower... has worse aim-time... uhm... it has better acceleration and top speed, shell velocity (only by a bit though) and more pen (203 instead of 180 which is quite significant at tier eight)

[eternal salmon]

@haughty forge there are very difficult tanks to ace, but there are some that i get ace like every match

[kindred wren]

But since the Panterra has shorter reloads you can play it in single shot and still trade to for one when full, and you have a faster magazine reload so you can dump your magazine in six seconds and then be full in only 14-15 seconds

It’s not much but it’s at least something. All in all I think that the Progetto 46 is better

[eternal salmon]

yes

[kindred wren]

Unless you have trouble with 180 pen

[eternal salmon]

i love the progetto over all, the pen is not the best but with prem ammo its easy to pen

[kindred wren]

Because they have the same premium rounds (except that the Progetto has 150 m/s more shell velocity) and in that regard the Panterra clearly wins with the shorter reloads

[hollow notch]

It has the firepower to tear apart lightly armored targets, but can pen basically anything if it needs to.

[eternal salmon]

true

shooting HE in RHM = 900 damage with progetto 46

[kindred wren]

The HE is also the same for both

The only real advantage the Progetto has there is that it can straight away dump the magazine and that it has 0.5s less intraclip

But the HE shells of the Progetto fly 268 m/s slower than those of the Panterra

I have to correct myself, the Progetto actually has worse armour than the Panterra

[eternal salmon]

i was thinking in that right now

[kindred wren]

But then again, the Panterra doesn’t really have good armour so that doesn’t say much

I was thinking of the Progetto 65 which has a lot of autobounce angles, which is not true for the Progetto 46

[eternal salmon]

people, pls subscribe to my YouTube! just created a new channel

[tiny fern]

Where are the historical skins WG

[solid gate]

Guys. What if WG add a M1 Abrams ? Or atleast its prototype. Will it in medium or heavy tank class ?

[hollow notch]

Prog 46 bounces like a leo 1. It shouldn't but it happens all the time

[wise acorn]

can someone tell me which is the best class 5 tank to get between countries please?

[gentle wasp]

BDR and T1 Heavy are the strongest right now.

[wise acorn]

Riight, thanks :3

[robust crescent]

I don’t understand armor, I have 215 pen on the Jpanther II but when I encounter the Tiger II with 160 hull armor I can’t pen it

[gentle wasp]

Armorinspector is your friend

[summer path]

Man buff the armour of lowe it’s paper

[gentle wasp]

It’s not good enough to frontline most of the time but it’s certainly not paper

[lyric copper]

@robust crescent basic geometry, angled armour is more effective than a flat plate

[feral granite]

Hi, I have a question about the legendary camouflage on the STA-1 Rin. What is the reason that the "Rin" on the tank is not in battle? Personally, I would have preferred it and the tank would look even more unique.

[lyric copper]

device limitations

[feral granite]

Well, i play on pc so this Isn't problem for me. Well, maybe sometimes in future :)

[crystal hare]

Any tanks I should run HE on? (I usually don’t)

[lyric copper]

any tanks with guns with a caliber of over 150mm

[crystal hare]

I know that

I mean low caliber tanks, like 90mm
I know the ru and black dog

[lyric copper]

if they have high HE pen yes

[gentle wasp]

You should have at least some HE on most tanks, but if you are not comfortable with switching to that ammo type then it’s not really essential for most small guns

[crystal hare]

Yeah, I’m comfortable using HE, but there’s really no point for low caliber guns

[gentle wasp]

Well if you are comfortable using it then you might as well have some. Never know when you need that extra bit of alpha to win a fight against something paper.

[crystal hare]

True true

[lyric copper]

only reason I’d load HE in a low caliber gun is to take tracks more efficiently

[mighty dagger]

What gun do I use on my SU-122-54

[lyric copper]

the top one

[glass relic]

The top gun one which you can pew pew pew with the DPM.

[buoyant nimbus]

You have the highest dpm ig with the top gun iirc, absolutely use that top gun

[robust crescent]

@lyric copper they should put the number of the angled slope then if it’s not 160

[gentle wasp]

Again, that’s why you use armorinspector @robust crescent it will show the base value of the plate and then the effective thickness of the armor

[robust crescent]

This app?

[gentle wasp]

Yep

[robust crescent]

Okay

[next solstice]

needs a premium thingy for the tier 9-10 vehicles tho

[meager coral]

/\ and for premium tanks

[solid gate]

The cent 1 is just a heavy tank with no armor and damage or am i playing it wrong?

i mean its real slow

[tulip sail]

Use it as a ridgeliner or a second line medium

[solid gate]

well ill try

im used to no armor but the damage and speed suck but thx anyways

[wise moth]

It's got no armor for the most part, but the turret is ok if you don't let the enemy get good aim on it

[tulip sail]

Do you have it fully maxed out?

[lost tree]

Soviet sentinel pack worth?

[gentle wasp]

No

[lost tree]

Why not

[gentle wasp]

Because Kv5 sucks, 122-44 is mediocre at best, and 100y is decent

[lost tree]

But still $12 usd for 3 6-8 prems

[gentle wasp]

They’re so cheap because they aren’t so good

[cunning forge]

I found a bug

[lost tree]

Honestly I just want the su-100y for sealclubbing

[cunning forge]

How can I do?

[gentle wasp]

@cunning forge squash it (get a server role from #surveys and describe it in the tech support section)

[hollow belfry]

Honestly I just want the su-100y for sealclubbing
@lost tree then buy the SU-100Y alone

The 2 others are just not worth it at all.

[cunning forge]

I have many confused.

[sinful sinew]

IS-4 or IS-7

which is better

[hollow belfry]

IS-4

[undone yew]

IS-4 or IS-7
@sinful sinew Is 4

[cunning forge]

Squash what?

[gentle wasp]

Joking

[kindred wren]

The bug. Squashing bugs

[lost tree]

Soviet sentinel pack or wz-112-2, so get wz?

[gentle wasp]

Wz not even close
@kindred wren this guy gets it

[lost tree]

So get wz? I’ll just get the bundle of the wz and the type 62

[gentle wasp]

Yes

[cunning forge]

What?

[kindred wren]

Only because someone else made it before

[gentle wasp]

:(

[cunning forge]

I can’t turn my turret

[kindred wren]

The Celestial Dragons bundle is a good choice, without question

[lost tree]

How should I play either of the tanks

[cunning forge]

When I try to turn my turret,it is not work..

[kindred wren]

The WZ-112-2 can be played like any Russian tier eight heavy, however don’t play as though you have a pike nose because you don’t.

The WZ-131 (Type 62) however... well, I can’t really tell you how to play it because I never really figured it out. Maybe it’s just me not shooting HEAT in it. It has decent alpha and very high HEAT pen paired with good dpm and mobility, yet absolutely no armour. Flanking is probably the name of the game in it

[lost tree]

So play it like the Leo (t62)

[kindred wren]

@cunning forge restart the game

In a way, it’s just that the Leo 1 is more accurate and has better gundepression, but I figure that you can play them the same

[lost tree]

Ok good to know

What equipment should I use for either if u guys got pics

[sacred robin]

Ngl I feel like WG should just have a limit for carrying missiles in a game

[gentle wasp]

@lost tree you can probably run the same thing on the Wz, with the possible exception of armor over hp

[lost tree]

Thanks

Alright

[urban kiln]

Will these tanks arrive in blitz in the future?
P.S: Say "yes" pls

[kindred wren]

Unknown

[tulip sail]

@cunning forge is that your toon mates recording?

[desert citrus]

How does it shoot? Like helsing?

[smoky hedge]

give us Defender series tech tree 🤣

[keen escarp]

Oof

[solid gate]

Defender jokes died long ago

[feral zephyr]

should i go russian or usa for td's
plz ping iwth answer

[outer warren]

u should go german

[feral zephyr]

noh

i could butno

[outer warren]

Mk then

[bleak mauve]

🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 How do you tirn the light on and off when you have the spotlight attachment on your tank? I seen people but i don’t know how. I see it on the ISs a lot.

[outer warren]

You press a

[bleak mauve]

what for ipad

[outer warren]

u press b

[kindred wren]

@bleak mauve You cannot turn the lights on and off as far as I know

[keen escarp]

bb

[alpine osprey]

Xd

[solid gate]

Should I get the T-54 or T49

[graceful rock]

T49 so far

[solid gate]

So I'm trying to decide, should I unlock the chaffee, the Sherman Firefly, or the su-100?

[gentle wasp]

Chaffee is the best of the three but none of them is really a keeper. At t6 it’s better to focus on the rest of the line.

[solid gate]

Thanks! Now to just get about 3k more XP 😂

[gentle wasp]

Good luck :)

[solid gate]

Ty!

So T49 or T54

[gentle wasp]

T-49 for loads of fun, T-54 for a solid, grindable tank

[solid gate]

Out of t37 and chaffee though, which would be the better one there?

[gentle wasp]

Good question. If you look on blitzstars tank compare, the 37 has a nice advantage on paper, with more pen, better gun handling, and more mobility.

I will say that I enjoyed the Chaffee more, however. The lower profile and extra degree of gun depression clicked with me for some reason.

[solid gate]

Ok then T49 it is

Alrighty :p I'll go for the chaffee, I've got my eyes on the Walker bulldog anyways 😂

[idle thistle]

I’m just starting this game what’s the best region in terms of the vehicles

I’m currently using French tanks

[gentle wasp]

@idle thistle USSR vehicles are quite beginner friendly
@solid gate very good. Bulldog is a fun tank.

[solid gate]

I've got a model of it too 😂 I'm aiming to get every tank I have a model of in blitz

[gentle wasp]

Cool! Post some pics in #off-topic-discussion sometime, I would love to see your collection.

[solid gate]

I'll post some of my wip pz.iv H real quick :p

[idle thistle]

Yea I have a model of the B-C-25 t so I picked French to try to get it

[kindred wren]

The French are basically the mobile autoloader nation

[ebon parrot]

How is the British med line

[gentle wasp]

Bad

[ebon parrot]

Ok, the TDs it is then

[feral zephyr]

ooh tiger is on
should i go Soviet TD's or American
America is easier but some say Soviet is better

[glass relic]

I'd say go get E3...

[gentle wasp]

@feral zephyr the 268 line is much better but e3 > 268

[feral zephyr]

YAY ITS TIGER
okay thanks

[gentle wasp]

Lol no problem.

[grand linden]

Tiger man what u doing

[glass relic]

In terms of line yeah the 268 will be a fun line to play but the tier 10 e3 will be superior one.

[gentle wasp]

@grand linden yes

[haughty forge]

i thought TET was tank that is eating tigers for breakfast and not tiger itself 🤔

[gentle wasp]

@haughty forge no I am a tiger

[haughty forge]

then are u getting eaten by tank?

[glass relic]

Tiger eating a tank?

[gentle wasp]

^^^

[haughty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-theoffice-michaelscott-steve-carell-gif-4527435

[gentle wasp]

See pfp

[kindred wren]

Grammatically correct it would be written tank-eating tiger, with tank-eating being an adjective that describes the tiger (him) as someone or something that is eating tanks

[solid gate]

I wanna play ww1 tanks 😦

[pearl flax]

There once was an event where everyone got a free trial of the mark 1 heavy from world war 1

[kindred wren]

It was a game mode and the tank was only available in the game mode

[pearl flax]

Yeah

[kindred wren]

It was actually very strong for a tier one, but since it was only that tank and only Fort Despair it basically came down to player skill

[tulip sail]

There also used to have the FT as a teir 1 tank but that got removed

[kindred wren]

There used to be loads of that tank

[lost tree]

T57 line or Sheridan line?

[kindred wren]

Both in that order

[lost tree]

Alright

[novel edge]

Sheridan is extremely fun imo

[stray cedar]

I cant use it effectively

[undone yew]

St Emil or JPanther

[gentle wasp]

Jp

[glass relic]

JP

[hollow moth]

JPanther

[keen escarp]

jp all day!

Guys how much is the event helping. It really helped me a lot

[pliant viper]

Am I supposed to play the t43 like the t34-85

Cause I just got one and it's stock

[gentle wasp]

It’s pretty close. Rely on the gun a little less and flank a little more and you should be fine.

[hollow moth]

Facts that you can't ignore N1: Bat-Chat 25t have a better turret than E25

You know why? Because E25 don't even have a turret

[stray cedar]

KV4 makes me want to die. Very nice armor but w the 122mm i can't pen mediums from the f r o n t.

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar then wait for uprising u smol brain

[stray cedar]

Idfk what that is tbh.

[karmic nymph]

You supposed to use the top gun on it, and even then it’s not the best tank. The is4 is the best though

Uprising is a mode with 3 lives and special power ups that you earn through the match

[stray cedar]

I don't have enough for the top gun yet. Grinding it now. Seems good but i just CANT pen any other heavies. I can't even pen the side of an IS6 ffs.

Ahhhh ik what yall are talking about now. Seems like a meh mode tbh. Good for grinding?

[karmic nymph]

Apcr, that’s what it’s for. It costs credits. If you don’t want to use it just suck it up, uprising great for making xp, especially with boosters cause you do 3 times the damage in one game so you get much more out of an xp booster. It’s one of the best modes imo, better than mad games

[stray cedar]

Ah. Alr. I have the IS7 and decided to try to get the IS4. I like the IS7 but the pike nose really lets it down tbh. The gun depression also leaves some to be desired. The next line I'll go for is probably the 62a. Then I'm thinking the T110E5 cause I have the T54E2 and love it.

Also considering the T57 heavy but i can't be bothered to grind the T49 again.

[karmic nymph]

e5 line one of the best, very good for your stats as the t1 heavy and the t29 are broken, the m6 and m103 are very solid, and the is e5 awesome. I would probably do it before the t62a, much easier line and you will win more, just go hull down

[stray cedar]

Yeah. As i said I own the T54E2 and LOVE it. I can bully most tanks just because of the armor profile. The lower plate is VERY had to hit. Something ive noticed when fighting the E5. Not sure why I dont see more in the E5 tbh. The gun on the T54E2 is also suuuper accurate.

[karmic nymph]

Yeah the rounded hull makes the lower plate troll and harder to hit

[stray cedar]

One of my favorite camos tbh.

So should I start up the 110 line and wait for uprising to grind the KV4?

[karmic nymph]

Yeah I would say that, grind the kv4 through uprising

[hexed reef]

T49 is the most fun tank ever who think wrong gonna get he by t49

[stray cedar]

I don't enjoy the T49 tbh. The RNG cucks me.

[hexed reef]

Me too but i get some shots

[stray cedar]

Also don't like the sheridan but I'm bad w light tanks. I like the Type 62. That's about it so far.

The ATGMS are attractive. Hard to use at close range. I don't currently have the silver to spam them to get good w them lmao.

[keen escarp]

@stray cedar i am jelly i want progetto i have P44 Pantera tho :(

[stray cedar]

Pantera is really good. Probably better then the Progetto. Progetto suffers from a bad mobility and dispersion. Still my favorite med tho.@keen escarp

[keen escarp]

i was keeping p44 cause i got the legendary skin.

Plus i like it i can get some very clean shots into people and some good numbers as well.

[haughty forge]

furious camo? More like Duracell

[keen escarp]

yeaaaaaa

[stray cedar]

I didn't have the patience to keep it. I'll buy it back eventually.

The stock sweed grind is/was hell. The standard b is horrible stock so have fun. Like P43 bad stock.

[keen escarp]

oop. Yeah the p43 bis was painful stock

I might be able to get Standard because 50% off certificate

[stray cedar]

The only good thing about the standard b is its HE pen. Your able te pen pretty much anything from the back and most meds from the side.

[keen escarp]

i am planning on playing some battles and grinding the Arl and The P44 and The M4 Sherman

[stray cedar]

The M4A3E8 is hell.

[keen escarp]

I never really use HE for meds or lights

[haughty forge]

i will use 50% certificate for STB 1, prog is kinda trash hehe

[keen escarp]

i am grinding for sheridan..

@haughty forge progetto is like batchat but more hp

[stray cedar]

STB 1 is a worse 62a hehe

[haughty forge]

what

[keen escarp]

what??

[haughty forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bert-how-dare-you-gif-10375382

[fast compass]

62a and stb are rather different meds to compare directly

[stray cedar]

The stb has slightly better hull armor. But thats it. 62a has power crept the STB1. =/

[haughty forge]

how dare you say stb is worse than t62a

[keen escarp]

i want sherid so i can use missles in training and practice because i might free xp the gun for T92

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar u dont actually know tank characteristics so pls dont talk if u dont know

[keen escarp]

Also i am grinding for T11 05 after i finish the progetto

[stray cedar]

Lmao. A lot of the YouTubers say the same thing.@haughty forge

[keen escarp]

Because i have the M6 sitting with 36.5k xp and stuff

[haughty forge]

😂

[stray cedar]

What's so great about the STB?

[keen escarp]

japanese and no armor for the grind

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar mate , i think u are confused stb with obj 140

[stray cedar]

No. Have you checked the stats recently????

[haughty forge]

Obj140 Has slightly better hull armor than t62a , stb has paper hull

[stray cedar]

62a has a better gun, more dpm, better armor, and im not sure about the mobility.

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar bruh , pretty sure u are confused

[stray cedar]

STB is still good but 62a is the king of meds rn. Tech tree at least.

Looking at the stats rn lmao.

[keen escarp]

Stb is hard.

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar ign stats does not show much , go to armor inspector

[glass relic]

I'd still go with STB than 62a

[keen escarp]

Who wants to grind a line knowing your armor is like 150mm on front

Talking about Type 61

[haughty forge]

because tier 10 is ridge line king

[glass relic]

In terms of gameplay STB Is much superior when it comes to trying to actually dominate the medium side without exposing much turret armor.

[keen escarp]

Then what about the 121b??

[glass relic]

That thing js just almost the same as 62a and 140

[keen escarp]

The hull is good.. And stuff... Thats the only chinese med.

[haughty forge]

wz121 exists

[fast compass]

Paper stats don't really translate into how the tank plays in the meta. There is a reason why stb tops the balance charts

[keen escarp]

@haughty forge oh yeah forgot sorry

[haughty forge]

@fast compass i said paper hull only

[stray cedar]

Stb1 has like an extra 10-20mm.

[fast compass]

Paper stats means the numbers you see on blitzstars or blitzhangar. Not talking about armour

[stray cedar]

Id take the DPM and better turrent any day.

[haughty forge]

pretty sure u have not faced againts stb

[keen escarp]

Ok

[glass relic]

He hasn't gotten a HEAT slapped on his cheeks my guessing.

[stray cedar]

I have lmao. They're not hard to find. I find way more 62a tho.

[haughty forge]

https://armor.wotinspector.com/?targetVehicleId=3681,7266,6755,5732&mode=xray.armor&platform=blitz @stray cedar check armor here instead of checkking in game

[stray cedar]

I just did

[fast compass]

And that is your playstyle. All players are not the same. The balance charts take 55-65% players. Both tanks have been buffed a while ago so new player influx isn't to blame. It is quite clear stb performs way better on the battlefield than the 62a

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar if u dont know stb 1 has way more bouncy armor and 10 degrees of gun depression , T62A has 7 degrees, the reason u find t62a more than stb1 is because Line of stb1 is haard while t62a has enjoyable line

[stray cedar]

The 10 degrees is really nice but the stb has a lot of weakspots.

[glass relic]

That little cheeks and cupola that barely sticks out?

[stray cedar]

Those and the viewing hatch? That sticks out of the front plate. Any large guns gonna go straight through. Same w the 62a.

[haughty forge]

listen , i run CS on jageroo and faced stb1 and t62a , didnt had much problems with t62a , but had plenty with stb

[stray cedar]

7 degrees is workable. I just don't see the hype around the stb. I'd have to play them both.

About the only thing I'd have problems w is the 7 degrees as I like tanks w 8-10.

[haughty forge]

@stray cedar what we are saying is stb has better turret than t62a, more likely : STB1 is best ridge line fighter of tier 10 meds

[stray cedar]

Are you sure??? The strips of the turrent are much weaker then the 62a

[keen escarp]

But reload is faster on T62 and there turret can bounce shots

[haughty forge]

bruh..

[glass relic]

It's angled and filled with ricochet when you're like wiggle and poking

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp stb1 has more alpha . @stray cedar ask any person , stb is better on ridge line than t62a

[stray cedar]

Alr. Ima finish out the 62a line then work on the STB.

[keen escarp]

Because its position and the turret on t62 is bigger

[glass relic]

Bigger turret meaning easier to hit btw.

[keen escarp]

Ik and stb turret sticks out on the back more

[stray cedar]

Personally i prefer heaviums for ride fighting. Stuff like the Chieftain mk6.

[haughty forge]

chieftain has massive cupola and it gets melted once i load heat on jageroo , stb is better on ridge line

[keen escarp]

So shells can sneak in

[stray cedar]

Ye. Cupola on chieftain sucks lmao.

Jageroo goes through basically anything w heat tho. =/

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp mate , we say again , t62 has better gun , stb is only good at ridge lining , @stray cedar not really , i struggle with stb and t62 :v

[stray cedar]

Really? Whats the calibrated on Jageroo? 400?

[fast compass]

417 i think

[haughty forge]

420?

[stray cedar]

I have started on a few TDs lines. Unsure of what to go down as I dont really use TDs. I was thinking Grille or FOCH.

[haughty forge]

it is all about angled turret and effective armor , Foch>Ggrille

[stray cedar]

Ye. Foch is probably better for my playstyle as I like to be aggressive.

[fast compass]

Jagroo may have 420 heat but heat has no normalisation so it has tough time penning highly angled armour

[stray cedar]

Oof

[haughty forge]

@fast compass right , stb also has mantlet so it will lose pen and fails to pen mantlet

[stray cedar]

I hate getting chunked by a jag or a 183. Messes my game up.

[fast compass]

Yeah. My first game in the stb ended with a hesh pen from 183. Yesterday my ammorack detonated in the foch by 183

[stray cedar]

So i can get the foch or the ST 1... Which one?

[fast compass]

Do you have free xp to skip stock st1? Because st1 is a good tank and is4 is pretty broke

[stray cedar]

The FV4005 should have a 183mm. But it doesn't lmao. And I don't have any saved. Just used it on KV4.

[fast compass]

Well i guess foch 155 would also need 60k free xp. That stock gun is rather unplayable

[stray cedar]

O o f. Just asking cause i got the 50% off the t9 research.

The stock guns for the KV3/4 are so bad. Struggling w the KV4.

[fast compass]

So tier 9 foch? Yeah that tank has no stock grind amd used to be the best tank in the line before the autoloader got added to tier 10

[stray cedar]

The TD guns are so ridiculous. I'll probably get the ST1 just so i can try the IS4. I heard its heat is stupid.

I just hate Russian accuracy. Dimitri needs to lay off the vodka.

[haughty forge]

nvm

[hollow belfry]

The 107mm?

[stray cedar]

Lmak that changed quickly.@haughty forge

[haughty forge]

not zis , one with 280 alpha and 175mm pen?

[stray cedar]

Ye. Thats the one I was using on the KV3. Got the 4 now. 175mm of pen at t8.

[haughty forge]

i like that gun more than 400alpha gun on kv3

[stray cedar]

Why?

DPM or gun handling?

[karmic nymph]

Is4 has better accuracy than normal Russian guns and it has 374 heat pen with calibrated it which is great. The only bad thing about it is the low alpha at 420 for tier 10

[viral falcon]

420 isn't really low.

[mint aurora]

Uprising 😂

[hollow belfry]

Nice credits

[dry sparrow]

big gun big penetration

[solid gate]

Wargaming its my birthday please add this to world of tanks blitz

[solid gate]

Buff the Chinese IS2 is sucks

[solid gate]

No,no add more OP premium

[keen escarp]

...

[cinder fog]

BUFF THE VK 168.01 (P)!

It’s slow, armour is easily penned, bad gun.. like seriously, how have u not realised how bad it is?.. (oh wait, you probably do.. which is why u don’t play it..)

[kindred wren]

That was in my weekly crate today 😁

[ivory shoal]

...

hey guys! quick question!
Yesterday i played a couple of battles on tier 4-5 and there were 2 players in red team with 10k+ battles on tier 4-5 vehicles. And they almost don't play on mid or high tiers. If there are such players who like low levels so much tell me please, what's holding you at those tiers? Why not going up to tier 6-7 and 8-10 in future?
fell free to tag me if you have something to say
@frigid ember
Speaking from experience here, getting vehicles from 7-10 is a pain, especially for players that don't have the most patience like me. I've quit lots of grinds just because they are long. Just recently quit the SU-152 grind because the SU-100 is a pain to use. 80k+ XP needed to grind (Excluding Engine+Tracks which I had some leftover Free XP for) is not a small amount, and is definitely not a small amount for players with no patience like me. I've only gone along with fun grind like the LTTB one, the MT-25 is a beast with the autoloader that can do 425+ damage in a clip.

I don't have anything higher than a tier 8 myself, even then I've sold all my of tier 8's except my Lowe

[buoyant nimbus]

The game is progressive. If anything lower tiers are harder for players to get used to because there’s no diversity of tanks. They all perform the same and make it to where the newer players find the game boring. They’ll think that all tanks will be boring if they continue that line they were “grinding”

People get bored of the same old same old and quit the game before they’ve even experienced the game

[ivory shoal]

We're talking about why people dont go to higher tiers

because its too hard.

[buoyant nimbus]

High tiers isn’t that hard. It’s just different from low tiers because there are no diverse stats of tanks in low tiers making the game seem as if everything will be the same as you progress. Which isn’t the case at all because higher the tiers go the more diversity there is. It’s not hard or easy to get used to it’s just awkward

[ivory shoal]

I absolutely want the SU-152, but the tanks leading up to it get boring, having to play them, get 500 xp, die and repeat the cycle

No, I don't mean fighting in high tiers is hard, getting those high tier vehicles is

[buoyant nimbus]

Yea the balance changes and nerfs make low tiers almost impossible to have fun playing

[ivory shoal]

I feel the lower tiers are balanced, but just playing those lower tier tanks for days on end isnt fun just to get 1 tank

[buoyant nimbus]

Yea that’s what I’m saying. Low tiers isn’t fun like it used to be pre nerf of basically everything. It just makes the game boring and not worth playing.

[ivory shoal]

people have 10k battles in low tiers because they dont have a good reason to go to a higher tier

higher tiers are hard to get, and just overall out of someones comfort zone

[hollow belfry]

I don’t enjoy playing below Tier 6. I have the most fun playing T7 and 8.

Lower tiers are just bland and frustrating. No point in playing at T1-5 if it isn’t to grind imo.

[kindred wren]

I actually like playing there, but I only play unique vehicles like the Light VIc or the UE 57 and not the standard stuff you find in the techtrees

[hollow belfry]

I didn’t keep any of the lower tier collectors.

[kindred wren]

Get some back and try them if you have some time and nothing better to do, some are still quite fun. And you will lose absolutely nothing if you don’t like them and sell them again

[hollow belfry]

T7 and 8 might be « rotten » by overpowered premiums by I ppreciate driving there my tech tree tanks and doing well in them, no matter how good or underrated they can be.

[kindred wren]

I lately played underpowered tanks just to have a different (to the meta) game experience. However, as it stands now I only grind the last few remaining lines because I finally want to have all tier ten techtrees, but other than that I don’t play the game much anymore

[hollow belfry]

I’m not interested in getting all the T10s. I’ll get the tanks I have interest in, no matter if they are at T7 or 10. Don’t have that much time anyways

[kindred wren]

Grinding all tier tens has been my motivation from the very start

[haughty forge]

@kindred wren oo nice , are u enjoying su 122 44

[kindred wren]

Haven’t tried it yet

[tepid sonnet]

I think T8-10 are the most fun to play. Tho the teams are harder to excuse for their poor teamwork. Personally my favorite tank is probably the Chieftain/t95 Heritage

[humble storm]

Does T57 HEAVY look good in your opinion?

[lyric oriole]

T57 Heavy is kinda sub-par, weak armor, not very mobiles, the gun is the only thing it really has.

AMX 50 B is superior to it right now

[haughty forge]

@lyric oriole 57 has more armor tho

[lyric oriole]

By more armor do you mean on paper?

50 B is way better than T57 and it's far more mobile, a 50B shouldn't be putting itself in a situation where the armor isn't to facing a tank unless it's a medium

[tulip sail]

I think they may have ment asceticly since they asked about looks in particular

[haughty forge]

@lyric oriolei only meant armor, 57 is HE resistant from front and harder to HE from sides

god cant wait to get chiri , chi to is one of the worst tanks i played

[solid rain]

How good is the Cromwell line? I kinda wanna try it

[gentle wasp]

4202 line? not good at all

[haughty forge]

4k left for chi ri , should i play 1 game then free exp it or 2 and then do it? @gentle wasp

[solid rain]

What’s a good line for a semi noob player

[gentle wasp]

just grind for the 4k @haughty forge
@solid rain what tank type

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp mhm , 3 if we win , 2 if we win and lucky , 2k and imma free exp it

[lyric oriole]

@solid rain I would say the German Mediums (E 50 M) somewhat challenging, but rewarding at the end guaranteed

[shell cloak]

Higher tiers are too hard to progress. 100K to research tank then another 50 -100 K to get tank up to full potential is boring. Then you add the cost of the tank. You have to be a masochist to want to grind some of these tanks. Tiers 9 and 10 are worse. Now, I don't want it so easy that new players just zip on up to higher tiers with no experience. I see new players doing that now ( players in numerous battles with less than 200 games driving tier 8 and 9 tanks that they bought) with disastrous results for the teams. I would reccommend lessening the grind on the higher tiers but establishing minimum number of battles before moving up a tier.

[haughty forge]

good lines for beginners is :E100,E50M , jagdpanzer 100

[lost tree]

I love being In uprising queue for 27 minutes

Restarted it and I’ve been in it for 15 now

[rose venture]

If y’all were to give fv4202 a legend camo what would you do?

[hollow moth]

I would actually give a legendary camo for Jagdpanzer E100 instead

[lost tree]

It’s shaped like a real car so I’d probably just make one called race car with like a black tint and 2 white stripes going all the way on top of the tank to the back and add some dirt around the tracks n some like race numbers n sponsor stuff but doubt it’s gonna happen

[haughty forge]

#GiveJagerooLegendaryCamo

[rose venture]

Fair nuff, ya think Kranvagn will arrive with one?

[lost tree]

Maybe but doubtful

[solid rain]

Hmmmm what’s the best medium line that’s what I like the most

[hollow moth]

#GiveJagerooLegendaryCamo
^

[gentle wasp]

@solid rain 62a or E50 M

[rose venture]

#GiveJagerooLegendaryCamo
^
^

[lost tree]

62a and e50m look so fun

[hollow moth]

All tier X should have a legendary Camo

[gentle wasp]

121 and STB are very good as well but the lines are a bit more challenging @solid rain

[rose venture]

Yes, there are still like 8 tech tree tier X that don’t

[lost tree]

Yeah all tier tens SHOULD have a legendary camo but they DONT

[haughty forge]

can we make something to give Jagdpanzer e100 legendary camo? brand new tanks gets one but jageroo does not have one , some tanks even has 2 legendary camos

[rose venture]

Notice my nickname lol 🙃

[lost tree]

Lol

[hollow moth]

Even the "VK 72 that most of people don't care about" don't have a legendary camo

[haughty forge]

vk 72 is kinda trash so who cares?

[rose venture]

Ngl that one could look really cool with one since it’s so funky lookin

[hollow moth]

Exactly @haughty forge

[solid rain]

On my last account I was going for the e 50m and got up to the vk 30.01 d

[rose venture]

I hate fighting E50 Ms

[lost tree]

Vkd was probably my least favorite tank in the German lines but I am only on the e50m leo and e100 line so I can’t say much I’ve heard the nashorn grind is annoying

[rose venture]

Cough... Emil

[lost tree]

Free xp that entire line

[olive hamlet]

don't you hate it when you tell a teammate to go one direction and they say affirmative only for them to go the other direction

[rose venture]

It no longer surprises me I just accept it

[lost tree]

Indeed, especially when you or them die seconds after to 7 enemy tanks railing you

[solid rain]

lol ikr

[hollow moth]

From tier 5-10 the tank that I mostly disliked was Emil

[lost tree]

If I ever decide doing that line I’m just gonna free xp thru the emil

[solid rain]

What do I think is the worst medium as of now?

[rose venture]

It means something when the best thing about a tank is its depression

[hollow moth]

I'd rather play T28 stock than play Emil

[solid rain]

lol

[lyric oriole]

@shell cloak they literally made it easier over the past few years, and yet we still have whiney people that complain anyways that will never be satisfied with the result of putting in a little effort.

[rose venture]

?

[lyric oriole]

Or instead of putting a question mark and me having to explain, you could scroll just a tiny tiny bit.

[lost tree]

Yo do you guys think I made good choices in my prem tanks that I got?

[olive hamlet]

Please buff the su-85 it has such slow movement, non-existent gun depression and makes it such a pain to grind the russian td line

[lost tree]

I have the wz-112-2, t34-3, type 62, Lowe, Tiger 131, Max, good choices?

[solid rain]

Su 85 L. Looks like stug iii

Before my progress was lost I was thinking about getting the celestial dragons for 14.99 is it worth it?

[lost tree]

Yes it’s good it’s very worth the wz112-2 is prob the most fun tank I’ve played in a while

[solid rain]

Hmmmm or should I get the Soviet sentinels?

[lost tree]

Hell no, kv5 is garbage, the su122-44 gets smoked in lower tier games but dominates when it’s top tier and the su100y is just tractor trailer sized with high alpha

[solid rain]

I was able to pen the 100y frontally with a leopard and that has like no penetration

[ember shadow]

@shell cloak there have been several events that have x5 xp prem accounts and credits as rewards the all inclusive event has 50% vehicle research cost decrease for 30 days so it’s not that grindy

[karmic nymph]

The su100y itself is worth it. The others aren’t. The su100y has 0.314 dispersion with refined gun so it’s quite accurate for a Russian gun

[lost tree]

The su100y is just a seal clubber fun high alpha in tier 6

[solid rain]

Hmmm ima get celestial dragons as soon as I confirm my account

[karmic nymph]

Yes, but its fun. 530 alpha at tier 6 with a reliable gun is great

[solid rain]

Can u guys post a pic of the kv5 u can’t really see it on the store

[lost tree]

Yes I cannot lie it’s fun I’ve seen others play it even though I don’t own it

[karmic nymph]

Kv5 is meh, I don’t have it. But it’s not good, it’s big and slow

[solid rain]

On my old. Account there was almost always a 100y in the match

[lost tree]

Big slow not enough damage and penned literally anywhere it’s just a fatter larger kv4

[solid rain]

Add the kv2 turret and u is good lol

[acoustic falcon]

Anyone know when emil 1951 is coming?

[solid rain]

How good is this game in the cruiser 4?

[karmic nymph]

Idk I don’t play low tiers, but it seems good damage wise

[solid rain]

lol low tiers is full of new players who don’t really know the maps or really how to play and just charge in and get recked

[karmic nymph]

When you first start they are actually bots

[solid rain]

Oh yeah like in the training battle I was like why do they have so low hp?

[solid rain]

I still can’t decide on a medium line to grind

[tulip sundial]

The Su85I has the Pz III chassis, just like the stug

[haughty forge]

finally got chi ri , any tips

[undone yew]

Support

[gentle wasp]

Hide from everything. Clip stuff that is distracted or reloading.

[haughty forge]

it is size tho and abliity to be HEed from front

[gentle wasp]

That’s why you have to hide

[haughty forge]

ok i camp

[solid gate]

was the SU130PM more expensive last time it was in shop? is there a place where I can check this? Wanna know if it will be up for cheaper later

[haughty forge]

equipments? @gentle wasp

[feral zephyr]

How come people don't use chinese heavies even though they look good in blitzhangar

[gentle wasp]

@haughty forge
CS defense optics
EGLD hp accelerator
Vstab toolbox CDS

@feral zephyr because their Russian counterparts are better (except 113)

[feral zephyr]

Mkay thanks

[gentle wasp]

@solid gate that’s usually how it works, tanks will be released in crates, then gold, then a cheaper gold price. There is a guy on the EU forums who has good threads on the trends and values of store offerings.

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp first battle and 0/7 , enemy had smasher too ;-;

[gentle wasp]

Ded

[hollow moth]

Facts that you can't ignore N2: some heavy tanks are actually faster than light tanks

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp i dont think i will play normal battles today , full of nubs ,

[gentle wasp]

That’s normal

[mint aurora]

Should i use the certificate on e100 or maus?

[gentle wasp]

Maus since E-75 is strong

[mint aurora]

Yeah i realised... E75 is cool and i enjoy playing IT but the mauschen is a nightmare

Luckily it's uprising

[gentle wasp]

Yea it’s better to grind the Mauschen quickly in uprising and then you can enjoy the e75 to its fullest

[mint aurora]

For how long is the uprising

[gentle wasp]

@mint aurora September 2, although it will probably be extended

[mint aurora]

Dang

So i Can get 170k xp easily

[haughty forge]

it already got extended tho , i wish it was available 24 hrs and game modes were 1 week at least...

[mint aurora]

My eyes hurt when meds or lights are bullying me

The turret and hull rotation on Mauschen 😂😂

[solid rain]

How good is the wz 112 2?

[exotic pagoda]

Should I buy the soviet sentinels or the desert TOG I?

[karmic nymph]

@exotic pagoda Just the su100y. Or the wz 112 bundle, best deal ever

[exotic pagoda]

Is TOG II deal good?

[hollow moth]

Good armor, decente forward speed, very good backward speed, meh gun and it's quite rare. Good enough to be worth the price@solid rain

TOG II is a very good tank (if you don't mind run at 16km/h) And can cause a lot of problems for enemies on frontline (if you get to the frontline before your allies die). It's a very good deal but you'll forget TOG one day @exotic pagoda

[karmic nymph]

@exotic pagoda The tog tank isn’t that good over all, it’s a meme tank. the su100y is much better and more fun. But as a I said if you get better as a player the wz112 bundle is the best

[tulip sail]

The tog is great until you find several derps

[solid rain]

Ima get the celestial dragons bundle

[karmic nymph]

Wz 112 2 is one of the best

[tacit flare]

@grand cliff give the beloved E3 a legy camo pls

[hollow moth]

Yeah, if you enemy don't have derp cannons, then you'll do well at the battle

Shhhhh first we need a camo for jageroo and for the "VK 72 that none cares about"@tacit flare

[tacit flare]

lol

jageroo legy would be dope

[hollow moth]

Jageroo should get a tottaly different skin from E100, you know why? Because E100 camo is stupid

Literraly everything black and "E100" on the turret

Every rookie modder can make something better

[tacit flare]

factsss

[hollow moth]

This is when WG makes a camo

[tacit flare]

and cdc liberty, smh

[hollow moth]

This is when Modders make camos

Please, someone just hire Maddox and his friends to WG

[haughty forge]

i didnt like obj 268 and cdc camo , looks like modder is addicted to japanese samurays

[hollow moth]

Pfff cuz samurais are badass

[haughty forge]

i didnt like it because they are on russian and french tanks ,

[hollow moth]

Yeah but those camouflages are already better than the original ones

[haughty forge]

not really , it depends on the person

[hollow moth]

The fact is that Developers have much things to learn with just a bunch of guys with a Cheetos bag and some modding wisdom

There's mods with even 4K graphics

[haughty forge]

everyone has different preference , ur modder got camo for obj 268 from Ho ri which was done by devs , k91 shark from t54e2, cdc looks meh for me

[hollow moth]

This K91 mod was made much before T54E2

[haughty forge]

ok then

[hollow moth]

Also, here you are @tacit flare

There's a T110E3 Thomas mod too

[haughty forge]

also , i like e100 stalwart camo

[tulip sail]

Wg has put out some good camos like shrieking,tiger 2s Valor, action X

[haughty forge]

Tiger 2 camo is nice tho , i want camo for all tier 10 tanks

[hollow moth]

The Tiger 1 camo is pretty bad tho

[haughty forge]

i actually like it , one of my favourite camos

[hollow moth]

Check out this SU-122-44

Or about this Maus

This centurion is pretty good tho

Camouflage mods are superior to WG camouflages

[solid gate]

That su and amx look boring the maus is great though

[cedar niche]

is the E-75 one of the best Teir IX?

[mint aurora]

WG should make realistic camos like tiger II..

is the E-75 one of the best Teir IX?
@cedar niche i think it's not the best but it's excellent heavy

[hollow moth]

I don't know, but I would answer some thing more versatile, like K91@cedar niche

[viral falcon]

@cedar niche A matter of taste. One of the most easily usable, that's for sure.

[cedar niche]

ah ok, having a bit of trouble playing it

[mint aurora]

I have 61% wr with it

[hollow moth]

Do you sidescrape?@cedar niche

[cedar niche]

some times

[mint aurora]

ah ok, having a bit of trouble playing it
@cedar niche
If you don't have 100% crew and best gun then i think thats the fault maybe?

[cedar niche]

like do i rush with the lights and meds or stay with the tank destroyers

[hollow moth]

That's the problem, if the heavy don't have a pike nose or a glass side, you should angle and sidescrape every time that you can

[cedar niche]

i literally just got the top gun 30s ago lmfao. I have 90% crew

[mint aurora]

I was playing with Stock e75 and i currently have 90% crew and i already score 3-5k dmg battles

[hollow moth]

Also, don't stay with TDs, but follow other heavies and do front line. Another important tip is: do not fight alone@cedar niche

[mint aurora]

Yeah i always go with one teammate atleast

[cedar niche]

makes sense, anyone up to platoon and "teach me" with another E-75?

[hollow moth]

Sorry bro, I have no E75

[cedar niche]

ah np

[mint aurora]

@cedar niche watch droodles or any vid about e75

[cedar niche]

ok

can E75 ram good?

[mint aurora]

It's slow

[cedar niche]

ik but if you could

[solid gate]

STB-1 New Anime Legendary Skin?

E75 is a meh, you could do about 100-150 Ram damage at full speed

[hollow moth]

If you want ram damage than get an FCM 50T, once I made 400 damage in one ram at an IS-3

[cedar niche]

oh wow

[mint aurora]

Mauschen is pain, All i do is camp in uprising cuz im slow af

[cedar niche]

so is the E-100 good?

[mint aurora]

Yes

[hollow moth]

It's a nice tank, not so armored at Maus but can be a monster if well played

[mint aurora]

E100 line is better than maus line

[hollow moth]

Tip for it: angle with the turret too

[cedar niche]

whats the first best teir X tank?

[hollow moth]

Depends of the playstyle, but the most OP is T22

[mint aurora]

Can't say in my opinion.. not everyone Can play light/med/heavy/td

[solid gate]

Play the tank how you like, your stats won’t change at all because it’s just an event.

[mint aurora]

I love heavies and i play only heavy tanks at the moment

[hollow moth]

I love well armored TDs and I'm going for T110E5 even if I know that I hate heaviums

[cedar niche]

ah ok

[solid gate]

What heavy tank line Crusader?

[mint aurora]

Wdym

[cedar niche]

which is better E-100 or IS-7?

[solid gate]

E-100, has the armor, HP and the gun

[hollow moth]

IS-7 is quite outclass after those new premiums, go for E100

[mint aurora]

Im grinding e100 and Maus line 😃

[cedar niche]

what about Jg PZ or E-100

[solid gate]

Go for Maus first, E-100 is difficult. Grind which ever line is the closest to the Tier X
Crusader

[hollow moth]

Jg PZ E100

It's literraly my fav tank

[cedar niche]

yeah i'm grinding e-100

[mint aurora]

I don't think e100 is difficult.. im rekting everyone with the tanks in the e100 line.. and Maus line is meh

Vk 100.01 is good one ..

[cedar niche]

E-75 or IS-8 which is better?

[solid gate]

E100 line tanks doesn’t mean it could really help with E100
Maus is a better starter super heavy
You will progress over time
Crusader

[hollow moth]

In the doubt, don't go for the heavium, E75 is better

[mint aurora]

E100 line tanks doesn’t mean it could really help with E100
@solid gate now i understand what you mean 😂 i thought you mean e100 line not the tank

[solid gate]

The whole entire line of maus teaches you because its a super heavy line.

E100 line is: heavy tank -> Heavy tank > Super Heavy tank

[cedar niche]

which is better E-75 or IS-8

[mint aurora]

Is mauschen very similiar to maus?

[solid gate]

Basically, you want to skip Mauschen, it really sucks
Mauschen stock is just painful

The VK 100.01 is better

[hollow moth]

In the doubt, don't go for the heavium, E75 is better
@cedar niche

Yes, both have good armors (but mauschen is worse), both are extremely slow (but mauschen is worse) and both have average guns (but mauschen is 3x worse)@mint aurora

[mint aurora]

Yeah i know.. VK IS good im playing mauschen now.. 🤮

[solid gate]

use free exp if you have them lying around
Or get those 50% off certificates from event

[mint aurora]

I don't have free XP, i ran out of xp boosters..

[hollow moth]

Oof

[solid gate]

Tell me how much Mauschen Exp and Free exp you got

[cedar niche]

E-75 or IS-8 nvm

[solid gate]

Stop trolling or spamming :/

[cedar niche]

yeah my bad

[mint aurora]

I need about 170k XP in total.. (Stock engine(53k+maus 124k i think)

[solid gate]

Just buy the gun, don’t max Mauschen, it’s really cr@p

Maus is your goal

Also when you use maus, you are learning how to use the E100 too, both same concept of usage but different guns

[mint aurora]

Good idea, + it's uprising so i don't need the engine actually

[solid gate]

Yeah, just use the Gas! Gas! Gas! Ability 😂

[mint aurora]

Lol😂 mauschen is slow even with the 10km/h boost

[solid gate]

might aswell snipe with it in uprising 😂
Thats what I did while grinding for maus XD

[mint aurora]

I do and i like it lol

I cant push and play agressive cuz im so big and slow that everyone is focusing me

And basically any tank circles me and it's so annoying

[solid gate]

It’s literally just a pillbox that is meant to waste ur time instead of getting the maus lol

[mint aurora]

I always feel that song when im close to ram someone 😂

[solid gate]

Then thats when the Eurobeat kicks in

[mint aurora]

I played mediums before cuz i like the hulldown (went for t62A, but the t54 sucks for me)

[solid gate]

STB-1 is more suited for that because it has good gun depression

[mint aurora]

I play soviet, german only

Other lines are touched a little

I always dreamed about the maus when i started the game 😃

[solid gate]

Its super good when you know how to block damage

Watch this video, it will definitely help

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKtmnwIwrHc

[mint aurora]

I watched that video twice 😂

[solid gate]

Huh, QuickyBaby?

[mint aurora]

I know who is he but i don't watch wot

[solid gate]

Whaaaaaaaaa

Dude, he is really good, he has tutorial vids for tanks
Go check him out

[mint aurora]

Will IT help in wotb? 😃

[solid gate]

Yes, WoT PC videos can be translated to WoT Blitz Gameplay 👍
It shows how to use it effectively

[mint aurora]

Ill check it thx

[solid gate]

Np, Imma go now, stay safe buddy

[mint aurora]

U2 bye

[covert dagger]

I want the 50mm of armor back on the Pz ll J.
Its no longer fun to use, even in rooms now.

I bought the tank for its armor and want it's armor back!

[lyric oriole]

It's fine, it's much better now that the Prammo doesn't have 44mm of penetration and is 80 now

[covert dagger]

I was fine with that way it was, I didn't buy it because of the gun, I bought it for its armor.
I only use the tank in training rooms, and now its not even fun to play it there.
I want its armor back!

Its a 20mm flak gun, so its supposed to lack in penetration.
It being able to pen 84mm of armor now is ridiculously.
They could of just buffed the pen to 50mm and it would be fine.

[lyric oriole]

Interesting opinion...

[covert dagger]

The Pz ll J was purposely made to be OP, like the Shamsher.
Although not OP it was fun to use because of the armor, now tier 1 tanks can pen its sides.

I use it in training rooms because I can join a low tier room and just chill while others who don't know about the tank struggle to pen.
I don't even shoot back until they pen and sometimes ask "Having trouble?".

[solid gate]

Yes, WoT PC videos can be translated to WoT Blitz Gameplay 👍
It shows how to use it effectively
@solid gate 😂 I wish sadly blitz ppl have the IQ of a zoo monkey

[lyric oriole]

Great. I didn't need a life story as to how you got to this point.

Pz. II J wasn't fun at all to play because it couldn't do any damage. Consensus said, rework it, so it's not overpowered.

[covert dagger]

It could do damage, just give it PMM so it wouldn't have to see tier 4's and it would've been fine.
I just want its armor back.

Pretty much every tier 3 can go threw its front with gold.

[solid gate]

If we give it PMM bring back +2/-2

Lol, Zoo Monkeys

Apes seemed a little harsh can’t be that rude to mobile gamers

[covert dagger]

I just want the armor back, they can take back the penetration if they want.

[solid gate]

It’s a tier 3 tho 🧐

[covert dagger]

It was fine before.

[lyric oriole]

No it wasn't

[covert dagger]

It was.

[lyric oriole]

Maybe in training rooms 😂

[undone yew]

what is the better american td line for beginners, e 3 or e4

[gentle wasp]

Neither

[lyric oriole]

The early tanks on the E3 line than the later tanks on the E4 line

[undone yew]

so jackson is better than hellcat

[covert dagger]

They should always nerf a lot of the penetration values.
Most tanks have to much penetration and it makes a lot of armor obsolete.

[next solstice]

new whip 😎

[restive ravine]

Do the t49 good tank ? Seems to be hard to play ?

[lyric oriole]

It's not an easy or cheap vehicle to play. You have to position yourself wisely and know when to take your shots

[wise moth]

@undone yew
Hellcat > Jackson
T25/2 < T25AT
T28 Prot < T28
T30 > T95
T110E4 < T110E3

[restive ravine]

Humm the HE is expensive on this tank right ? Or it's just like other tier 8 ?

[gentle wasp]

It’s premium HE so it costs a lot more

[restive ravine]

Oh t49 don't got normal HE ?

[lyric oriole]

It's premium but it's really not too expensive for the output and mobility of T49.

You'll be using it more than HEAT tbh, the HEAT is for targets that are soft enough that you don't need to HE splash but, tough enough that the HE won't penetrate

[restive ravine]

Ok thx I will purchase it and try when I get enough credits 😁

[next solstice]

"T28 Prot < T28" @wise moth u sure?

[wise moth]

Very sure. T28 Prot's turret is nothing but a liability, and this is coming from a guy who more or less hates turretless TDs

[next solstice]

I mean surely it makes the prot a bit more flexible?

[wise moth]

It does, but it's still super inflexible anyway due to the awful mobility and terrible armor.

At least the turretless T28 has decent camo and a decent gun to snipe from a distance (and more mobility to boot), but the T28 prot can't even do that

[drifting pilot]

why my recharge time is like this, and my crew is 100% and nothing is damaged, This happened after taking a smasher shot in the side of the hull, And I don't even have the 122mm cannon

[candid cairn]

Sturmtiger in uprising

[upper atlas]

lel

[dry talon]

M2 medium has severe depression 😩

20 frikin degrees of gun depression
I think that's the best in game

[primal thistle]

Yea, you should of seen it before the great purge of 5.5, had my favorite derp gun in the game.😭

[elfin meadow]

i just realized falls creek is studzianki but blitz-ifyed

[keen escarp]

guys i am getting standard b soon YAYA this event is so helpful man...

I can finally grind some lines and do less work and spend less time wooo!!!!!

[elfin meadow]

just realized i put a map msg in vehicle discussion...

[solid gate]

Hey guys is this good in uprising on a kv1s

[elfin meadow]

is that overall? if so, idk. i got 6k in the p43 ann. earlier so compared to that, no

[dry talon]

best i got was 9 kills

[crystal hare]

Nice

I got 6k blocked in a tiger 2 and 3k damage on stock gun

[solid gate]

The M8A1 is very easy to destroy

But is highly maneuverable

Not as much as the M5 stuart

But yes I would agree with that

[pliant moss]

Anyone know how to play SU152?

[solid gate]

@pliant moss how to play SU-152 sit in the back and ruin some people's days

[brisk surge]

Use the 152 gun. Carry good amount HE shells, HEAT and a tiny amount of AP

[nocturne tiger]

Should I buy the Jagdpanzer 4 or SU 100

[solid gate]

Why does T-43 suck so bad, the pen is absolutely terrible

[rotund palm]

WG you know what to do

[solid gate]

Yo the KV5 is like OP

[hollow moth]

Nah, once that you learn how to fight it, it becomes easy prey

[solid gate]

IDK I'm s l a p p i n g with it

so far I died twice in 10 matches, lost twice too but but neither of the deaths occured on defeats

[exotic pagoda]

Should I go towards the jagE100 or the grille 15 in German TDs?

[hollow moth]

JagE100 is second line support, good armor, best gun of the game in my opinion (high DPM, alpha, penetration, good aim, gun angles and decent precision) and can be close quarter support if you be careful

Grile 15 have a harder playstyle, a sniper tank that demands a good wisdom about maps and sniping spots, low armor, penetration and mobility, but it's a real sniper tank

If you want action, go for Jagdpanzer E100, if you want a sniper playstyle, go for grile

[exotic pagoda]

Jagd E-00 it is then

[haughty forge]

@inner pawn researched fv4005 yet?

[inner pawn]

nope, but im gonna get it during uprising and then use the IX cert for the snickers,so i need to grind 200k xp in total now

[haughty forge]

i got it researched yesterday , discount helped me a lot

[shrewd fog]

@rotund palm what is that rectangular siege tank ??
am interested now

[hollow moth]

It remembers be A7V

[keen escarp]

@solid gate you didnt load apcr??

[solid gate]

No I probably should have done that, but even with regular AP I can barely pen the side of a KV-4

I guess I’m not used to the low pen tanks because most tanks I play are derp with large amounts of pen, mostly TD’s

[keen escarp]

T 43 pen isnt good at all but Apcr you do 165

Thats why i stopped the grind i will continue it tho... Cause of the discount from the event..

[solid gate]

Even in the midst of uprising to grind it out, I’ve really only been getting in matches with only 2-3 tier 7 on each team with me being one of them, and the rest of the tanks being tier 8 which becomes very frustrating

[keen escarp]

@solid gate grind as hard as possible cause this event really helped a bunch of people

T 44 has armor and the stock is okay.. But yeah.. T 43 is better than lttb tho.

[haughty forge]

what kind of joke is this? T43 better than lttb?

[solid gate]

Yeah I used my tier 8 50% research stupidly so now I have to completely research the T44 instead of half of it which sucks but there are a lot of guns between tier 8-9 on Russian medium

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp take your words back , lttb is still my loved tank

[keen escarp]

sureeeeee

Nope.

[haughty forge]

Lttb>T43

[keen escarp]

No

[solid gate]

T-43 is E25 with turret, more HP and longer reload

[keen escarp]

Lttb is light and easily to killllll

@solid gate also 40 more avg :) heahehahehaheha

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp nab , lttb has same armor as t43

[rotund palm]

@shrewd fog it's Mendeleev Tank but Maus is Slightly heavier

[solid gate]

And more speed than T-43

[keen escarp]

@haughty forge hm

[shrewd fog]

@rotund palm ooh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendeleev_Tank

[keen escarp]

Lttb gas tank sticks out. So that can get lit

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp Bruh , why do u think t43 is better than lttb

[keen escarp]

lttb is not good

literally one ram by a vk and like 200+

[solid gate]

Don’t ram in light tank, that’s Dracula’s job

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp what is ur point wth , why do u think t43 is better than lttb

[keen escarp]

Better dpm

[haughty forge]

and?

[solid gate]

The mobility of the LTTB allows you to get out of situations quicker, or make a quicker flank

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp u are actually ignoring other things , lttb top gun also has better pen than t43 , far better mobility , best accleration in game , not being HE able from front , if u dont know t43 and lttb has same hull

[keen escarp]

:/ @haughty forge

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp if u want to argue get come with proper facts

[keen escarp]

Dpm is better thats a fact @haughty forge

[haughty forge]

U are only stating dpm and nothing else,

[keen escarp]

The armor

[haughty forge]

they have same hull omg

[keen escarp]

The dispersion

The aiming time

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp if you dont know then dont talk , they have same aim time and dispersion

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/ , Lttb also has better dispersion on movement

[keen escarp]

fine u win whatever @haughty forge

u so mad..

[haughty forge]

but why would you use something in argument without actually knowing? , u can check armor inspector too , they have same front armor

[keen escarp]

90mm????

[stray valley]

Buff cromwell armor without decreasing speed to 4000000mm, a 1.0 sec reload with 400 alpha and 10000 penetration, also buff its velocity to 80kmh

[haughty forge]

@keen escarp https://armor.wotinspector.com/?targetVehicleId=18433,42498,35331,32772&mode=xray.armor&platform=blitz

https://armor.wotinspector.com/?targetVehicleId=6657,13570,11011,3076&mode=xray.armor&platform=blitz

[minor grail]

has anyone else had a bad experience with the stock standard b, I'm hoping it gets better once upgraded ?

[inland osprey]

It's amazing when upgraded, the new gun changes everything

[robust crescent]

Should I use gun rammer or calibrated shells on stock ygtiger gun?

[keen escarp]

@minor grail i am about to get the standard b then see how

[minor grail]

nice i got it yesterday and its a pain right now

[keen escarp]

How is the gun @minor grail

4 shots with an 225 avg.

[haughty forge]

900 dmg avg per clip @keen escarp

[earnest mantle]

Still not buying the grille until they buff the camo...

[haughty forge]

@halcyon badger stop being horny

[mint aurora]

Can someone explain what's inside the mauschen turret? 😂

[kindred wren]

The stuff you can see on the top of the turret are only the tips of the elements you can see inside the turret. It’s like icebergs which are mostly hidden underwater

[haughty forge]

bruh i got sniper tanker on chi ri again , it is second time lmao

@kindred wren is this normal :P

[solid gate]

Should I skip Type 61 and instantly get STB-1? I just unlocked Type 61 but haven’t bought it yet.

[kindred wren]

I always played the Chi-Ri very close range to use the dpm and clip as much as I could. Playing like that is a bit of a pain against tier eight heavies, or heavies in general

[gentle wasp]

@solid gate might as well try to grind it in uprising

[haughty forge]

it was when i was able to see enemy clearly and i just emptied my clip :P , for first time , all enemy was on town and i was on dunes ( map was sand dunes?) i could see them so i farmed them , there was su 152 and i was scared :[

[solid gate]

I mean, Credit wise, no, but with Uprising yes If I have the credits, but it would cost me 9,000,000 credits + 3,000,000 credits to maintain it, and the equipment:/

[haughty forge]

second time it was on castilla and enemy camped on their spawn , our vk 28 spotted well and i just farmed them again

@kindred wren wat is ur ign

[solid gate]

But, since I do have prem tanks, I could fo buy Type 61

[haughty forge]

@solid gate personally i would skip it if possible

[solid gate]

But I do have the 50% off certificate :/ @gentle wasp
Is it still worth it the skip Type 61 with Tier X 50% Off?

[gentle wasp]

Well you just came from STA and Type 61 is much better. Right now is a great time to grind stuff so give it a shot

[solid gate]

You know what, you’re right, with Prem tanks to grind credits, and uprising to grind, so sod it :DD

[gentle wasp]

#screenshots

[haughty forge]

ok , buff chi ri armor , it has worse armor than lights, all i want is not to get HEed from front and lose 1k of my hp

[gentle wasp]

Lol that was quick

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp yes , got HEed by same su 152 player twice -_-

[gentle wasp]

F

[restive ravine]

Is it a good deal ?

[gentle wasp]

@restive ravine it’s a fun t6 that makes credits and packs a huge punch

[glass relic]

It's worth it if you want to meme people while effectively support your team as a good TD.

[restive ravine]

Yeh, but is it worth it 2k gold or should I wait for another discount in the future @gentle wasp ?

[gentle wasp]

@restive ravine it’s up to you u, I don’t really know what you’re looking for in a prem, but that’s very cheap for a quality silver printer that offers a bit of nub clubbing fun

[restive ravine]

Just want to got it and have fun trolling people with one shoot lol. But idk if they are other discounts on this tank who is cheaper or with other boost...

[gentle wasp]

Nah that is probably the cheapest it has been

[glass relic]

It's a good offer overall, you can get. The other offer that might come with other boost maybe the D max that sometimes pops up with some bonuses.

[restive ravine]

Oh ok thx you lot, I will get it I think haha. The camo it's pretty too

[vivid shoal]

But who wants a d max when u can get su 100y

[glass relic]

^

[gentle wasp]

DMax > 100y

[small cosmos]

B-but Soviet bias :(((((((

[undone yew]

what is the worst german line to grind

[glass relic]

VK72

[gentle wasp]

Leo line is pretty terrible if you went Vk - Vk - Indien for some reason

[small cosmos]

The worst line is tier 9 Chinese medium tank
Just that tank

[undone yew]

the 121 after that is very good, also i was thinking grille line is pretty bad

[hollow belfry]

The Grille line isn’t bad.

[undone yew]

well its my least fav grind so yea

[hollow belfry]

Only the Sturer Emil when stock is a pain, and it also has horrible top speed. The rest of the line is good.

[undone yew]

grille 15 seems pretty mediocre

[hollow belfry]

It just got a dpm buff and even if it’s not the best TD in T10 it’s workable.

[undone yew]

but is the grille line any better than jageroo

[hollow belfry]

I’d say not since the Jagpdanther and Jagdtiger buffs

[tiny plume]

^

[undone yew]

so i shouldve gone with the jgpz iv

[hollow belfry]

Not really.

[kindred wren]

They are very different lines. I think grinding both is justified

[haughty forge]

jgpz4>nashorn

[hollow belfry]

The Nashorn is really good and can get you to research the PaK 43, which you will need on the Jagdpanther.

[undone yew]

what is a good tier x TD (other than badger)

[hollow belfry]

E3

[kindred wren]

Grille 15 😛

[hollow belfry]

Ho-Ri is pretty balanced, the Foch isn’t bad neither.

[haughty forge]

jageroo too

[kindred wren]

If you want overperforming tds just look at #devs-answers (most premiums are not included)

[undone yew]

so yes the E3 is good

[kindred wren]

Only if you use the consumables, though

Without them it’s balanced. And with consumables I mean the totally necessary speed boost

[brisk jacinth]

I bought the E100 today

[solid gate]

nice

[brisk jacinth]

What do you think of the E100

[solid gate]

eh idk
in one point if u play him correctly he is fckn op
but for some medium tanks he is like unbreakable

like he has to much armor in some points hes like a red tank if yk

[strange rune]

Can we make this the tier Xlight tank for the Italian?

[gentle wasp]

Pretty sure that says wheeled tank destroyer, not light tank

[strange rune]

You might be right

This would make a cool tier 10 because the aubl would be it’s tier 9

[gentle wasp]

Wheelies don’t seem to fit in PC, what makes you think they would work here

[solid gate]

Might be too modern

[strange rune]

The mk6, st1 and Leo are modern

[gentle wasp]

Not that modern

[solid gate]

True

[strange rune]

You are right the B1 is still in use

[lethal isle]

and the game alrdy have weird tanks like smahser

[strange rune]

People complained about the wheelies in Pc but these arnt light tanks, their slower TDs plus it would add diversity

[gentle wasp]

Would rather have the existing tanks refined than to add more mechanics to be balanced

[hollow notch]

1st question:
Rifled gun?

[strange rune]

I’m sure it has one yes, yes it’s rifled

[oblique forum]

is chimera worth buying?

[gentle wasp]

@oblique forum yes

[strange rune]

If it was considered to be added I’m sure they can lower the speed and make its armour quite he-able

[lethal isle]

i downloded the game to play in tank of ww2 and winter war, but i can't play 1 normal battle without have a stupid tank like smahser, or dracua, or anyother special veichle

[strange rune]

Agreed, I sold my smasher because I didn’t like it

[lethal isle]

would be good add some modern veiclhes

[solid gate]

there are far better games for that sort of thing

[oblique forum]

tanks

[strange rune]

@solid gate yeah I might just stick to War thunder

[solid gate]

To each their own

[lethal isle]

i mean, i love this game, but i cant have a good experience

[strange rune]

The leopard 2, abrams 1, challenger 1, B1, stuff like that would be a bad decision to add to the game because they would be equivalent to teir 11

[haughty forge]

@lethal isle @strange rune it is arcade game not historically accurate

[lethal isle]

pz lll should be tier 11 lol

[strange rune]

I know that, that’s why things like the tiger 2 105kwk is in, panther 2, Maus. Things that didn’t exist in battle are in wotb, not war thunder

[solid gate]

isn't the jagdpanzer e100 like completely made up

[haughty forge]

there was a project but it got cancelled

[strange rune]

Tbh, it would be really cool to see the Centauro but it was too modern, with APFSDS it would pen everything in the game

[small cosmos]

Helsing with double shot y/n

[solid gate]

do you think they will eever add sabot shells into the game

[strange rune]

No, their too op, they can pen pretty much anything

[small cosmos]

Leo with double shot :/

[solid gate]

It doesnt have to be anything different from normal shells, just a new icon and stuff

I just think it would be cool even if it doesn't make sense realistically

[strange rune]

But even then it’s different from a ap or he shell, it’s basically a needle fired at extreme speeds, in wotb it wouldn’t do much dmg and would over penetrate most meds and lights

[solid gate]

maybe instead of like APCR or something

[strange rune]

Even then it won’t make it realistic

[solid gate]

Well WOTB doesn't have overpenetration

[strange rune]

If they added APSF and APFSDS they would have to add over pen

[solid gate]

I don't think that will work well with the HP system

[strange rune]

It wouldn’t, because with these shells, you would be able to shoot a shell through a tanks track and still pen, shoot through the barrel and still pen

[solid gate]

either way, they wouldn't add it if it wasn't already in WOT, and I don't believe it is

[strange rune]

Theoretically they would be able to pen anything in the game, very few tanks even possess the armour that could bounce that

[solid gate]

Not really APFSDS works different than you think it does and most shells have that ability to “overpierce”

[strange rune]

Eh, shells like hesh and he can’t

[solid gate]

Keep in mind I said most which implies not all

[strange rune]

I know that, but even if they add APFS/APFSDS, they would have to add over pen and that’s too much work for all the ap, APFS, APFSDS

So The Centauro would never fit in the game unfortunately

[kindred wren]

We actually have APDS and APFSDS in the game

[solid gate]

I didnt mean the centauro specifically

[kindred wren]

They have normal APCR mechanics, but their pen drop is a lot lower

[strange rune]

APFSDS has insane pen,

[kindred wren]

It depends on kinetic energy, so per se it does not have insane pen

[wise moth]

@strange rune Not necessarily. APFSDS just means any shell with 1. A discarding sabot, and 2. Fins on the shell

And actually, we do have APFSDS in the game. It’s on the Chieftain/T95

[solid gate]

@strange rune no they wouldn’t need to add overpen because they just will code it to work like normal ammo in the game

Also Centauro is wheeled so why would it be put in the game

[wise moth]

I should also note that pretty much all the tier X mediums have some sort of APDS shell as their standard ammo

In-game, APDS has the same mechanics as APCR, but it just has much lower pen dropoff over distance compared to normal APCR shells

[solid gate]

Also saying APFSDS wouldn’t do much damage is a lie if you’ve seen the damage caused from one it’s super nasty

[hollow moth]

You guys talking about APFSDS, but let's be honest, we should actually get APHE shells

[hollow notch]

Gotta love metal shards flying around in an enclosed space

[hollow moth]

Explosions inside tanks go boom

[solid gate]

I’ll never understand why players suggest bizarre vehicles

Oh that’s why he called the MBTS tier 11 worthy nvm

[hollow moth]

Tier 11? LOOOOOL 500k exp to research one tank

[hollow notch]

?

I would give my left kidney for this

[hollow moth]

Why the whole tank is Literraly inside the turret?

[solid gate]

@solid gate the jag e100 isn’t entirely made up there was plans to mount a 17cm gun to an existing platform

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/15-17-cm-sturmgeschutz-auf-e100-fahrgestell/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=15-17-cm-sturmgeschutz-auf-e100-fahrgestell

[hollow moth]

This actually would be a better E100