If I understand this correctly, the engine upgrade is basically a must and don't engage other heavies (because they have too much HP to 2 shot or even 3 shot sometimes)?
#vehicles-discussion
astral pendant
gentle wasp
Yea the mobility is a big part of what makes the tank good. It’s best not to engage heavies frontally because as you said you have to aim for a long time to hit their weak spots, and they can easily pen you for big damage as well.
astral pendant
Then indeed it seems I have been playing it wrong. I played it the same way you would play a tiger P or a tiger 2 which are rather good at directly engaging other heavies.
gentle wasp
yea it is a very different playstyle because you can't rely on the gun handling or armor as much as those two
keen escarp
Tiger P is better cause you can easily hide you lower plate. But both the Tiger 1 and P have very weak cupola's.
astral pendant
The tiger P cupola is pretty weak indeed. That's why it can help a lot if you peak around buildings with the left side on the building side, because your cupola will stay hidden better.
Thanks for your input tankeatingtiger. I will try these tactics in battle and see if my opinion of the Kv1s changes.
gentle wasp
No problem man, hope you figure it out :)
karmic nymph
Basically I just peek a boomed in the kv1s and it worked ok for me. I learned quickly to not really on my armor cause I have none
keen egret
Yeah literally just peak a boom it’s not a complicated tank to play
little tangle
i dont have kv1s but i play thunder very peek a boom
like a tier 6 Kfpz, dont expecta nything from the armor. (despite it having decent armor) i just go med route and they are usually pretty suprised
karmic nymph
I think that somes it up quite well.
orchid nymph
still think it needs slight dpm buff. kv2 has more dpm and more aplha
karmic nymph
Much more accurate tho. The kv1s does its job fine. It’s a mobile heavy tank that’s meant for close range. And it can hold a position quite well cause it’s high alpha discourages others from pushing you. Just make sure you aren’t isolated
crystal hare
T-34-1 is amazing
orchid nymph
still think it should put out a bit less than 1600
signal vortex
i have the crusader rn, should i get the sherman firefly or the cromwell next?
gentle wasp
Depends which line you intend to go down. Cromwell is the better choice but go with whatever line you would like to grind.
signal vortex
actually, are there any good russian tanks down the line? i only recently switched to the british tanks but im not really sure if i should stick with it
storm apex
Question for SU-152
Which gun is the best?
gentle wasp
Is7, 62a, and 268 lines are very beginner friendly. It would probably be a good idea to avoid the British tree for now, it is pretty challenging @signal vortex
@storm apex 152
storm apex
@gentle wasp is that the first one? the stock?
gentle wasp
Yes
kindred wren
If you want a challenge, play the Challenger
gentle wasp
Ba-dum tss
kindred wren
🙃
storm apex
Situation: I'm in loaded SU-152; 1 shot
2 tanks i can both pen, Tiger on 4hp and Light tank(i forgot) on full
I shot light tank
was that a good decision? my team won btw
gentle wasp
In almost every situation that I can think of, yes. Your job is to deal loads of damage in one shot, hopefully your teammates can clean up the scraps.
kindred wren
I would have shot the light too. My excuse would have been that I managed to remove a lot more hp from the enemy team and thus it was the right choice, but from a strategic point of view it’s always more important to take a gun out of the game
storm apex
yea. i was wondering whether i should go for damage or tank out
gentle wasp
Yea removing guns is the name of the game but to remain true to your role (and pad your damage and ego) you made the right decision
kindred wren
Let me put it like this, in randoms just go for whatever you find more important (damage or kills) and the rest really doesn’t matter
storm apex
So I was playing my IS-3 just now, and i just got into position when a bulldog rolls out in front of me.
I forget to switch to HE so I AP him and 1000 full hp -> ammo-rack
Bulldog was the only tank spotted that was so satisfying
gentle wasp
Lol nice
karmic nymph
Is the comet still good? I was looking at it and it looks great
gentle wasp
Nah it’s not. Poor gun, mediocre mobility and armor. Overrated by many because of the DPM. Was good years ago, not now.
cedar arch
hey uh, tet, is it a good idea not to buy the Prog and just buy the Celestial Dragons? I've heard the WZ-112-2 is a pretty good heavy with a bad gun
kindred wren
The Comet is good if you don’t try to force-play some sort of medium tank role but go for that support fire light tank role
(That’s just damage farming by the way, you won’t actually carry in that thing)
gentle wasp
@cedar arch the gun is pretty good, it’s probably the best IS tank. Progetto is really good and tons of fun, but the Chinese bundle is a great deal.
cedar arch
the reason I don't want the Prog is it just doesn't fit my playstyle, plus, I want to save some of my $50, if I buy the Celestial Dragons set for the 62 and 112-2, I have $35 leftover
kindred wren
The WZ-112-2 is generally considered to be the best Chinese tier eight heavy premium tank, and one of the best Russian-style tier eight heavies
cedar arch
so.. good deal for $15 then?
gentle wasp
Oh yea it is. If the prog doesn’t fit your playstyle no reason to spend a bunch of money on it. Wz and Type 62 are a couple of the best prems out there, and for very cheap.
cedar arch
hmm. any news on what's going to replace the VKs? if it's a good deal, I might spend some cash on that bundle of they're good tanks
kindred wren
I am hesitant to recommend paying real money, but the bundle is definitely very inexpensive
gentle wasp
No idea but it would be very hard to beat those tanks for that deal.
cedar arch
@kindred wren someone is gifting me $50, I'm spending $15 and maybe $7-$10 on the battle pass
kindred wren
I also don’t know what comes next, we’ll know more in five days
karmic nymph
I’ve been playing the y5 elc bis lately and doing quite well in it, how does the comet stack up compared to it?
gentle wasp
Both are kinda bad
karmic nymph
Yeah but I’m making it work, and least farming damage wise. Would the bulldog be better then?
kindred wren
Well, they both use the cruiser hull (albeit the Comet uses an upgraded variant) and both have pewpew guns, so I guess that they are quite similar
next solstice
high dpm, pretty mobile.
Atrocious pen and armor
cedar arch
should I still grind the Cromwell line to get the Comet and then the FV301?
gentle wasp
Bulldog is a better option. Better mobility and the gun fits the role better (better better better, hopefully it’s out of my system now...)
@cedar arch yea the comet is the only tank that isn’t strong in the line rn
cedar arch
the Cromwell is strong? xd
kindred wren
British lights are definitely a good introduction to light gameplay if you are used to 105mm mediums. So if you want to take a peek, go for them
karmic nymph
I mean the comet has a 56% wr on blitzstars which was quite high
gentle wasp
Oh yea the Cromwell is alright I guess. Better than comet tier for tier imo
cedar arch
hmmm.. ic
are there any other lines worth grinding rn? thinking of continuing the Jageroo line
brisk surge
Rip comet after all the over buffs and heavy buffs
gentle wasp
Jageroo line is solid
kindred wren
I think the Progetto 65 line is worthwhile, just for the unique mechanic
gentle wasp
It’s fun that’s for sure. Teaches really solid shot and target selection as well.
kindred wren
Then also the Soviet lights and if you want something very special the Obj. 263 line. I can also recommend the Grille 15 and the E50 M line along the T110E5 line. Lastly I would like to promote the WZ-121 line
gentle wasp
I second that promotion.
Also 62a line is still a fine choice.
mental oracle
just to ask for any tips or advice on what equipment to use for Lowe for a rush and hold tactic?
gentle wasp
Rammer defense optics
EGLD HP accelerator
Vstab toolbox CDS
As for tips, know your enemy. Pick your spots based on lineups, be aware of what can pen you or not.
kindred wren
Do you rush into good or somewhat exposed positions?
Because if you rush into good positions (like hulldown) it might pay to run improved armour for the turret
gentle wasp
There is an argument to be made for that. But I haven’t been convinced of the effectiveness of that so I stick with the simple hp boost
mental oracle
more of a hull down position if possible if not im in a somewhat exposed
kindred wren
I run improved armour on tanks with trollish armour or rounded armour
And on some tanks that are balanced with the overmatch mechanics because WG can’t ever implement anything correctly
mental oracle
@gentle wasp thanks ill try that setup first before anything else
gentle wasp
Good luck with it man :)
solid gate
Right so I've come to bit of a conclusion but more of a roadblock P.44 pantera or JPanther
gentle wasp
Just considering the tanks, both are quite good and very enjoyable, but Pantera is better overall. As for the line, they are very different obviously.
Progetto is high floor high ceiling, takes a lot of thinking. Jg seems fun to mindlessly roll forward and derp stuff.
cedar arch
any tips on ARL equipment
gentle wasp
Pretty much what I recommended for Lowe
hollow notch
I gonna have to disagree with what he says about the hp equipment
Extra armor on everything that has a chance to bounce
gentle wasp
Doesn’t everything have the chance to bounce
hollow notch
Rhm?
tulip sail
Technically yes
gentle wasp
It’s happened
hollow notch
Not counting gun or tracks eating shots
gentle wasp
So Progetto 46, Rev, and Type 62 you would run armor on?
hollow notch
Yup
gentle wasp
Interesting
hollow notch
May just be mind games, but it honestly feels like I bounce a lot more
strange thicket
it definitely gives some changes
but i would argue you are most likely to fight meds anyone
so eh
signal vortex
is the T-34 or KV-1 the better option?
gentle wasp
Depends on the line you’re going down. T5 doesn’t really matter.
signal vortex
im going for 62A
hollow notch
@signal vortex how experienced do you consider yourself?
gentle wasp
Yea go for T-34 then
signal vortex
ive just started playing last week so... not very XD
hollow notch
Because heavies are generally better for newer players
strange thicket
^
gentle wasp
It’s easier yea but I would argue that meds teach more overall skills. Also I don’t want to encourage the flood of mindless heavy drivers
hollow moth
Yeah, IS-4, it doesn't require much position knowledge, armor will just go brrrr
dusk apex
I've bounced AP off the side of a grille turret before
hollow moth
Oof
hollow belfry
I somehow had an E75 firing APCR at the back of my Grille’s turret and still bouncing
hollow notch
@hollow belfry was it before they fixed the hitskin?
hollow belfry
Not sure. Was about 5 or 6 months ago I think
solid gate
The gun barrel gets dumb bounces a lot
A grille earlier ate a CS AP shot from my 4005 straight into the track at an angle it should have penned and it didn’t even get tracked
haughty forge
vickers light has stupid hit skin , i hit it's tracks twice with jageroo CS ap and it didnt even got critically damaged , hope this gets fixed
candid harbor
A grille earlier ate a CS AP shot from my 4005 straight into the track at an angle it should have penned and it didn’t even get tracked
@solid gate but grille can't bounce at all
side is 10mm thick
4005 would have something like 54° of normalization if shell would connect
but if rng made shell go bit down, then you would only hit tracks and not the main armour
haughty forge
what about my comment my dear?
candid harbor
could be bug if it didn't play critical hit noise for u
solid gate
@candid harbor i assume that is what happened but it doesnt explain to me why it didnt get tracked when the shot directly hit the rear drive wheel
Should also note he was on an incline with his back facing me so i wasnt aiming for the track either
candid harbor
player could be running more durability for tracks
solid gate
Uhh guys...
Is it normal for an AMX 12 T to be able to deal 2000+ damage in a battle?
Cus I just did it
candid harbor
it is
signal vortex
is the MT-25 or T-34-85 the better choice? theyre both going into the tank im tryna go for but i just wanna know which one i should go for
kindred wren
There is not really a better or worse, the T-34-85 leads to a more traditional line that is solid to play (but it’s also a medium line so... eh) while the MT-25 is more like the fun line that sees a lot of changes in playstyle
gentle shard
MT 25 line less armor, more speed. T34 85 line more armor less speed. Tier 10 is same speed I think
Oh yeah you already chose 62A
signal vortex
Im also considering going completely off track and going for an obj 268 instead
kindred wren
Your choice
signal vortex
i think ill go for the MT-25, it does seem pretty fun from what ive seen
oh, and thanks btw
kindred wren
Enjoy the line
haughty forge
Line is pretty fun tho , except when u are matched againts tier 10 in t54 with dpm gun4
broken sentinel
@solid gate 2k damage is good for tier 6, but not exactly impressive. 3k damage is very good and 4k damage is extremely good
restive ravine
Should I purchase it or not ? 80k free exp needed 🤷 worth it or wait and play ?
haughty forge
@restive ravine just play
hollow notch
Tier 9 foch is a monster, enjoy it.
fast compass
Yeah used to be the best in the line before the tier 10 got the autoloader
hollow notch
It's the only nonturreted td that I actually like
restive ravine
Ok thx 😁
I don't really like it, died the most of the time even if I get two master on it, Need focus on this tank
nova escarp
is there a way i could be up on HOF with only a screenshot ? this battle is from a few patches ago so replay was deleted
kindred wren
Not from what I know
nova escarp
cuz thats enough for a 3rd place HOF in su100
kindred wren
I am actually not sure how the system works there
haughty forge
@nova escarp u wont , u need replay as proof
nova escarp
reee
nova escarp
lol
forest ermine
how did that slip through the wordfilter?
kindred wren
Wargaming decided to not censor quite a few swearwords
solid gate
@solid gate 2k damage is good for tier 6, but not exactly impressive. 3k damage is very good and 4k damage is extremely good
@broken sentinel
OK thanks!
Altho I asked cus I play French autoloader and I usually come off with 500-1000 damage cus the reload is awfully slow on amx 12 t
calm drumBOT
Spray#1004 has been warned.
limber sonnet
Is the BL-10 the best gun at t8?
potent forum
Define best
candid harbor
@limber sonnet nah reload is bit long and gun hits when it feels like
hollow belfry
The Skorpion G on the other hand is really accurate.
nova escarp
lol @forest ermine in game (in chats) the word 'idiot' is censored but it seems that it isnt for the names.
forest ermine
I wouldn't expect to be keeping that name for long then, tbh 😅
hollow belfry
In fact I believe « idiot » is censored but « idiots » isn’t.
well, that’s at least what I experienced.
storm apex
did u know that if you type SP 1 C in WG chat
without the spaces
it gets censored
hollow belfry
it’s a racial slur without the spaces.
storm apex
I just figured that out. I was hella confused why they would censor the name of a tank they put in
lost tree
Because it’s a racial slur.. @whole needle
whole needle
Right, forgot to read the messages above
kind bluff
I definitely saw worse names in game
lost tree
whatever u want
vital hull
Legionary or 313?
lost tree
whatever u want
gentle wasp
I like legionary
karmic nymph
Can someone explain to me what’s so bad about the pilot 1? It doesn’t seem like a crate tank but it seems decent, like a better pershing. Is there something I’m missing?
small cosmos
It’s not op, that’s why
grand linden
its definitely usable but nothing good it doesnt bring anything new to the prem infested tier 8
karmic nymph
Why is it inferior tho? The turret seems better. Saying it’s inferior when I ask why it’s bad is a meaningless statement
grand linden
dang i underestimated how bad the perishing really is with that awful awful gun
but just go buy a 26e5
vivid shoal
When the tank cines for gold the pilot one will be better bit until then just get a super pershing
gentle wasp
Super Pershing is awful. Why get either one?
solid gate
.
sharp siren
For my ho ri do I put shell velocity or vertical stabilizer equipment
solid gate
You aren’t gonna be shooting on the move much on ho-ri because of the gun placement also EGLD is in the same slot as super charge?
gentle wasp
Yes
modern parcel
In ur opinion, which tank is the bets for farming? (for me it's kpfpz from far, 50k-80k/battle)
open cairn
It’s not opinion, it’s numbers. Löwe is the best.
plucky summit
L o w e
Especially if you find out all the spots you can abuse its armor profile with, there are terrifying spots in unwanted locations
modern parcel
Lowe against T9 be like
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lyric oriole
Löwe isn't the best for farming credits, it's Coefficient is just more forgiving to sub-par gameplay.
If you ask me I find the M41 90mm LekPz the best at tier 8, then chimera
open cairn
I have more than 1000 battles in my Lowe, I haven’t found anything better than it to farm. Then again, I don’t own a lot of premium tanks
hollow notch
Type 59 is probably my best earner. Far cheaper ammo costs
broken sentinel
Honestly the Progetto 46 is my absolute favorite premium tank. Its main role is to farm damage, which is always so satisfying.
The Lowe is amazing as well as it has one of the best guns on a heavy tank at tier 8. The creditmaking is insane as well.
The M4190 is a decent tank but it's also extremely fun to play. The creditmaking is just a bonus to the fun.
hollow notch
My prog 46 is fairly poor with credit earnings. I get a bit too spammy with apcr
hidden mauve
modern parcel
Tier 8 prems tanks sound like a joke to me since I play kpfpz 70
strange thicket
that is funny
modern parcel
Amx 30 1er prototype is also a credit mountain when it's well mastered
pliant lodge
Yeah
broken sentinel
Tier 9 premiums are decent, but they don't make nearly as many credits as tier 8 tanks.
Tier 8 premiums have roughly a 175% credit coefficient while tier 9s have around 140%
Granted tier 9s should be doing more damage, but tier 8 premiums will make more per battle on average in my experience
pliant lodge
I earned 2 million credits after about 30 battles in it. It was epic.
modern parcel
Kpfpz just need 4 ammo to do 2.4k damage and don't particularly needs provisions nor equipments. I swear it's the best
broken sentinel
A sample of tier 8 premiums
All of the tier 9 premiums/collectors
Also @modern parcel you should always run equipment, provisions, and camouflage on every tank you have, regardless of whether they're a premium tank or not
modern parcel
I do but I precise that it's not compulsory on kpfpz
broken sentinel
I mean, it kinda is with the gun handling on that tank. You need rammer, gun laying drive, and VStab/Refined Gun to make the tank even playable. You also need provisions to boost your crew performance as a whole.
modern parcel
Without provisions you can get up to 100k without premium acc with a good game
solid gate
No one in their right mind would sacrifice quality of life for more profit like that at that point drive something more profitable
turbid thunder
How bad is the T25 Pilot 1 rly is ? Ive never seen Meadsy as mad as today 😕
sterile lark
what are some good mid tanks? No premium or collectors
lyric oriole
Wdym mid tanks? Credit grinders?
karmic nymph
The tank is balanced. It’s in crates though so it’s not really worth it. People have come to expect all premiums to be op and complain when they aren’t
sterile lark
I mean medium tanks sorry> Wdym mid tanks? Credit grinders?
@lyric oriole
gentle wasp
at which tier
lyric oriole
Ah, some good mediums, I would say the Chinese medium tanks, and the German Mediums.
If tier 10 WZ-121, STB-1 and E 50 M
broken sentinel
STB is Japanese but OK
serene saddle
AMX m4 45, AMX 13 75 , and AMX AC 46 all need a buff because right now they are just weaker versions of the Tiger 1, jagdpanther, and T71
lyric oriole
Yes, and WZ-121 is Chinese.
I specifically said "For tier 10" on the second part @broken sentinel
broken sentinel
ic
sterile lark
and for tier 6-8
gentle wasp
lol
feral zephyr
IS-6 is really nice
I bounced shots from an RHM from the back
strange thicket
The tank is balanced. It’s in crates though so it’s not really worth it. People have come to expect all premiums to be op and complain when they aren’t
@karmic nymph balanced? no it should be a tier 7
it literally is one in tier 8
hollow notch
Better than a smasher 2.0
strange thicket
yeah if it was in tier 7 no way it is gonna be broken
it is like a worse pershing
And that
that is not even good
lyric oriole
T26E3 is gonna be the tier 7 equivalent I've seen others been testing it for a while now
hollow notch
Underpowered tank that might be buffed is better than a broken tank that they refuse to nerf
strange thicket
yeah i don't see the correlation mate
the pilot is not gonna be broken in tier 7
hollow notch
I'm just happy we don't have another prog46, chimera, 252u, wz112 2, or smasher
left granite
whats the best tier 5 tanks?
hollow notch
@left granite t1 heavy and bdrg1
strange thicket
prog46 is not even broken but okay
and it was way cheaper than the pilot
not even in crates
hollow notch
Prog 46 is not even broken?
Dude.
Broken gun
Add speed
Add gun depression
A noob won't dowell as if they were in an armored tank, but an experienced player that knows ho to use glass cannons?
wise moth
@broken sentinel For some reason tank compare defaults you to the stock turret and stock 90mm on the Pershing, so that comparison actually isn’t correct (albeit the top setup isn’t really any better)
undone yew
Wait how are you supposed to play Nashorn?
gentle wasp
camp
strange thicket
yeah the pantera exists
it is fast too
it has good penetration (better penetration and dpm) it has gun depresson
but it has bad armor and is big
undone yew
nice
gentle wasp
Prog has a lower profile, more alpha, more gun depression, and a quicker clip dump
hollow notch
@strange thicket faster clip dump, more alpha, plenty of pen with prammo
broken sentinel
it doesn't fix much tbh. The only thing that really changes is the penetration @wise moth
strange thicket
yeah more alpha but the pen doesn't really hold up
and again not because it rewards experienced players then it is broken
hollow notch
My apcr butters the front of tiger 2s
strange thicket
cool
and?
hollow notch
Pen is not a problem. Also you have speed to work with. You can use AP if you utilize speed. You can then burn things to the ground with the best medium gun in the tier
strange thicket
pantera has better dpm and with cali you can get enough pen to butter tiger 2s too
gentle wasp
DPM doesn't matter.
kind bluff
its an autoreloader
strange thicket
i still don't see how prog is broken
it is strong yes but how is it broken
gentle wasp
it's just a matter of what your definition of "broken" is then
kind bluff
one of the best tier 8 mediums at the very least
hollow notch
Excessively powerful
strange thicket
well sure
hollow notch
720 clip.
5 seconds
5.5 reload with 240 alpha when unloaded
Stupid apcr pen if your ap can't
strange thicket
pantera gets same pen and alpha on apcr too btw
hollow notch
I realize this. The pantera does not have the AP alpha or clip dumping advantage
strange thicket
and pantera doesn't even need to load its apcr
the only thing balancing pantera is the big profile
yes but it can go into a dpm trade with the last shell or the first one i am not sure
but as you said dpm doesn't matter
so that is fair i guess
hollow notch
Also the unloaded prog46 reloads faster than an unloaded pantera. With more alpha.
strange thicket
hm yeah
so
i might be biased but i still don't think it is broken, fair points
nocturne sage
How is spaced armor effectiveness determined and what is considered spaced armor . I’m asking this bc I’ve went on blitz hangar to look at the armor profile of the panther M10 and found that the it’s “costume” doesn’t count as spaced armor and the only space armor is it’s gun manlet
solid gate
The “costume” on the M10 isn’t legit armor it’s just metal in place to change the look of the tank in reality it wouldn’t make it thicker or spaced
nocturne sage
Ahh ok then thx for clearing that up I always thought that it was spaced armor on the model
serene saddle
@nocturne sage its metal sheets about a MM thick, Noth you would notice.
stray cedar
4030 blocked. 4.6k damage and 2 kills. IS7 is sooo good. I don't get why people dog on it so much. Just got it today and ive had several 3k+ games.
solid gate
People don’t like it because it’s outdated the armor will still hold up but no one likes the gun on it
stray cedar
Tbh the gun has hit more crazy shots then even the german guns... i wouldn't say the armor is bad either. Premium cuts through it but it's the same for most heavies.
Personally I enjoy the german super heavies but the mobility really limits you. The IS7 is pretty quick for its weight. Tbh I don't see the ammo rack as an issue either. I was ammo racked in my maus today lmao. All 3180 health gone in one shot. Wasn't happy.
strange thicket
People don’t like it because it’s outdated the armor will still hold up but no one likes the gun on it
@solid gate isn't it supposed to be a close brawler anyway?
solid gate
That point is useless since all guns have hit the most absurd shots at some point the armor is decent but most of the player base knows how to combat it already the penetration of is7 is the worst of the heavies it’s not really used in tournaments no more
stray cedar
That's what i use it for. Has trolly sides too so side scraping/ reverse sidescraping is pretty good. TDs go right through the sides tho.
arctic basalt
wargaming need to add another russian heavy line. wot pc has 4
stray cedar
I would like an OBJ 279 line tbh.
arctic basalt
or a obj 430 or something like that
stray cedar
Hows the IS4? I was gonna get the 62a but im more of a heavy guy.
OBJ 430 looks just like the 62a or the 140...
arctic basalt
is4 line is kinda bad if you don't grind is7 line first you need to research the guns or else you'll be stuck with an ST-I with an 175 pen gun at tier x @stray cedar
strange thicket
That point is useless since all guns have hit the most absurd shots at some point the armor is decent but most of the player base knows how to combat it already the penetration of is7 is the worst of the heavies it’s not really used in tournaments no more
@solid gate that is the same argument people use with the is5
but the tank is still good
stray cedar
OBJ 252u is so much better tho..
solid gate
@stray cedar is4 is meta rn has really good traits going for it also is5 may be good but is one of the worst IS tanks at the tier
stray cedar
Ima grind it then. The line looks fun except for the STB.
strange thicket
true obj 252u is better but it is broken anyway
is5 is a really good close brawler
what is the problem
just go with meds you are fast enough
and you can go easily through most of them if not all
stray cedar
The KV4 is a frontline monster now after its buff.
kind bluff
its ok
strong? yea. op? nah.
stray cedar
I've seen t8 tournaments filled w 252u
strange thicket
i think he is talking about the kv4
it is strong but not op
kind bluff
^^
stray cedar
Yeah. Its slow. Though it's potential to frontline and bully things is pretty cool.
Mobility is its issue tbh. Weak sides too. Gun is decent. I really like the IS6.
serene saddle
IS-4 is really good except the gun, which trolls me really hard.
elfin meadow
which gun is better for the is 6?
gentle wasp
DPM gun.
serene saddle
No 175 pen is painful at teir 8.
gentle wasp
The tank is made to bully meds. If you run the pen gun you'll just get outclassed by every other heavy.
gentle wasp
don't be dramatic. It can pen the Panther II fine.
serene saddle
Looks run right? 175mm is bad a teir 7 much less teir 8.
elfin meadow
just use prammo if cant pen, its a prem anyways
gentle wasp
Not sure what you’re looking at
serene saddle
Oh ur using calibrated
gentle wasp
Good catch. Still green tho 😂
elfin meadow
man i cant beleive i started this whole debate with a simple question
gentle wasp
lol see what you have done
vertically there is a bit of reddish there but he has to angle the front plate at least 15 degrees horizontally to get a bounce
serene saddle
Line of sight effective thickness of panthers armour is over 180mm
Lol why are you doing it at such close ranges do you except to brawl a panther?
meager coral
In an is6 yeah
desert citrus
Bruh the top of the turret on Maus, it's so weak /S https://imgur.com/a/iFOfLpC
gentle wasp
you're doing it at 346m which seems a bit extreme. You're not going to be sniping in it.
meager coral
How far were u doin it
serene saddle
Lol that i definitely won't brawl a soviet heavy in a panther
gentle wasp
I definitely wouldn’t set up long range shots on a Panther in my soviet heavy
meager coral
It’s not impossible to play is6 with the bottom gun but I would prefer the top one because if you can’t pen shots ur not dealing out damage. If you value your dpm go for the bottom gun.
serene saddle
Lmao I would like to see you in your IS-6 battling a mäuschen, ST-I, or E-75 tell me how it goes.
kind bluff
but i wouldn't?
why would i fight one when i can be fighting a tier 8 medium and winning every single time
serene saddle
You could fight one but why would the medium let u brawl him he Could easily escape? And a medium such as T26e4 can kill IS-6 quite easily.
kindred wren
175mm is ok at tier seven but bad (for heavies) at tier eight. However, the IS-6 plays a lot like a medium so it does not need all advantages of a heavy
Also, the T26E4 is pretty bad and will be killed by the IS-6 if the IS-6 is even half decent. Basically any heavy will win a face-off against a medium in a standard battle
elfin marten
Bring this to blitz!, American rhm!
storm apex
what we really need is SPG's
serene saddle
@kindred wren in a face hug T26e4 shouldn't have a problem with IS-6
elfin marten
tulip sail
Spgs aren't necessarily tds they can be just as a tank can be an spg it all depends on a contries doctrine and naming conventions
karmic nymph
An spg is a self propelled gun, ie a gun on a platform that can move on its own instead of having to be towed. The type of gun it is doesn’t affect whether it’s an spg or not
tulip sail
Although what would be considered an spg by one country may not be considered one by another
solid gate
Hey guys from a 1/10 how would you guys rate the M4A3E8 tier 6 sherman fully upgraded
karmic nymph
@solid gate An 8 imo. It’s got bad pen and isn’t that fast but the gun has good handling and dpm and the tank has great gun depression. Also the mantlet covers most of the turret and can let you get some bounces and make you hard to hit when hull down. If this is an 8 the Cromwell b is a 10.
gentle wasp
4
meager coral
The E8 is just mediocre so prob a 5
solid gate
Guys is t14 good??
haughty forge
no
solid gate
Oh okay..
But my account has only one tank and its tier X but i dobt enough creds to buy another tank... but i have 2500 gold.
Hmm i was thinking that I should just made another account and abandon this one im using..
hollow belfry
I’d rather play a VK 30.01 OP over an E8
plucky summit
Not a bad tank, change my mind
haughty forge
@solid gate why do u want to abandon this
solid gate
Umm because i only have one tank in the garage and its so expensive i cant earn creds and i just stuck on 200000 creds hehe.. @haughty forge
haughty forge
buy pz4/5
whole needle
Should i get the Crusader or AT 2
edgy dune
does kv-4 needs a calibrated shells ?
next solstice
not really. I doubt the extra pen would give you extra weakspots against most tanks you'll see. Maybe it'll help against an e75's lfp but thats if he faces u flat on
edgy dune
Should i get the Crusader or AT 2
@whole needle crusader would be more effiecent for different tires
not really. I doubt the extra pen would give you extra weakspots against most tanks you'll see. Maybe it'll help against an e75's lfp but thats if he faces u flat on
@next solstice thanks mate
next solstice
👌
whole needle
@whole needle crusader would be more effiecent for different tires
@edgy dune
Thanks
solid gate
buy pz4/5
@haughty forge ohh that panther
hollow belfry
It’s an ok tank.
gentle plover
Please give arty tanks
frozen moth
I feel like I have been ripped off by buying the T25 pilot it’s rubbish nothing special about it at all
sly marsh
Why dont they just add it as an event
thick trout
The stats are easy and available to see, you chose to buy it idk why you expected more @frozen moth
real nacelle
Anyone knows if toaster of death will come to stores soon?
solid gate
Is it worth to buy löwe
real nacelle
@solid gate lowe is a good tank
Its not worth to buy it for 7k+ gold.. just wait till it comes for 5k or something
solid gate
Okk
spiral elbow
Who can give me good acc with 10Tier ? When not than fykl
humble storm
Hey all!
Should I get the JPanther 2 or Ferdinand?
spiral elbow
Idk
humble storm
Bruh
humble storm
Ferdinand has more armor tho
spiral elbow
No JPanther has better Armor
solid gate
Maus have better armor tho
humble storm
...
spiral elbow
IS-4 has best Armor but only Front
humble storm
Bruh we are not talking about that
Jpanther is faster but less flexible on the gun
Ferdinand is slower but more flexible on the gun
meager coral
Jpanther actually has the better gun
Just go for jpanther 2 it’s speed makes it more versatile. Yes the Ferdinand does have more armor but you’ll soon realize that your not impenetrable and you have to angle a lot in order to make it effective.
haughty forge
@humble storm Both has same gun but jp2 is better
hollow belfry
The Jagdpanther II is better in roughly every way, including the armor imo.
If you hulldown in a Jagdpanther II it’s very tough to pen, while a hulldown Ferdinand will get buttered by gold/heavies and td’s AP.
smoky narwhal
Should I grind the IS-7 before the IS-4?
hollow belfry
Do it for the guns. The stock ST-I is a pain, but the IS-4 is way better than the IS-7.
smoky narwhal
oh okay seems I need to use my KV-1 again...
hollow belfry
Either go only for the IS-4 line but keep lots of free exp for the t9, or grind both lines.
smoky narwhal
55k free exp seems quite alot
hollow belfry
Get enough free exp to at the very least skip the top turret and the BL-9.
smoky narwhal
is the Bl-9 still a bad gun?
lyric oriole
The BL-9 is good tbh, obviously it's not as good in tier 9 but even then it's pretty decent for it's calibre
hollow belfry
^
smoky narwhal
Seeing that I don't have lots of free exp I guess grinding the IS-7 line is the best for me. Thanks everyone!
hollow belfry
No problem.
haughty forge
@smoky narwhal u will still need free exp for is 7 line , i recommend to do is4 line
civic iron
imagine kv-183(E25)... ( a 6 lvl kv-2 with the 183 mm HESH and a E25 reload speed) you are welcome for the nightmares 🙂
willow dirge
If that happens me as a tiger 2 is not gonna survive@civic iron
civic iron
rip
smoky narwhal
Wait what free exp for is-7?
haughty forge
@smoky narwhal u will need free exp for everything , i would straight go to is4 line
smoky narwhal
but isn't the grind easier.. I just don't have that much free exp
haughty forge
@smoky narwhaljust go to is4 line straight , u are not getting st1 in one day , use all of ur free xp boosters and use Free xp for guns , get here when u get kv3 ,
smoky narwhal
can you get 88k free exp easily?
pliant lodge
Yes
smoky narwhal
how many battles in teir8 or 9 then?
haughty forge
turn on boosters and use higgher tiers and then just play , @smoky narwhal depends on xp u get per match
smoky narwhal
With boosters I get around 500 free exp per battle
pliant lodge
Plus premium time
smoky narwhal
that is true
pliant lodge
50% more
smoky narwhal
welp seems quite the grind, well I guess I need to up my winrate anyways
smoky narwhal
Thanks!
wise moth
IS-7 line is overall better though TBH. IS-4 line is honestly pretty bad, with the exception of the IS-4 itself being better than the IS-7
vivid shoal
Is7 line requires literally no free xp I've just done it @smoky narwhal
solid gate
About IS-7 I have got manytimes frusrated about gun angling in uneven ground. You might stand next to an enemy but pipe towards sky if one little rock underneath your belts.
meager coral
Which gun should I run on the su152
gentle wasp
152
keen escarp
Yeah stock/derp/640 avg
gentle shard
Depends on which you prefer: Alpha damage or damage per minute. 152mm gun has 640 alpha on AP and 960 on HE if Im not mistaken. Pen is not that bad but if you see tier 8 you will struggle with AP, then you can load HEAT and cut through pretty much anything.
122mm has lesser alpha damage but it has monstrous damage per minute for a tier 7 tank, 3000+. It has better pen, much better reload time, better aiming time, better accuracy.
You will land more shots on 122mm overall. But you wont have the excellent HE pen(99mm if using calibrated shells, better than many tier 9 tds.) And you wont have the alpha advantage of course. So in a 3v1 situatuon you wont be that scary.
And 152 is more fun lol
strange thicket
the su-152 is not a dpm td anyway
your HP pool is too low for that
you are not that flexible
i would much rather nuke people with the 152mm and then go away
from distance ofc
lost tree
Nuking is honestly the most fun thing in the game
charred basalt
Tog 2 but it’s longer
stuck spoke
????
meager coral
Is the super Pershing worth getting at some point?
grand linden
just get a t34
haughty forge
IS-7 line is overall better though TBH. IS-4 line is honestly pretty bad, with the exception of the IS-4 itself being better than the IS-7
@wise moth pretty sure kv and st1 is better than is and is8
pliant moss
which coutry has best tierX Middle tank
small cosmos
European nation? The prog 65 is good
quiet blade
which tank has maximum armor
haughty forge
Maus
solid gate
About the IS4 line I ground the entire thing without a drop of free xp, and I haven’t touched the IS7 line, but I should since I have all the guns
haughty forge
@solid gate why? do u have all other tier 10?
solid gate
No, the kv3 just happened to be my first tier 7 and the STI was just an absolute beast once I ground the KV4 during mad games some time ago I only have the IS4, 268, and Maus at t10
haughty forge
Then no point of getting is 7 anyway
rapid orchid
Easily get ammoracked
they said
nocturne sage
@meager coral no the super Pershing is worth getting. It’s a decent credit earned but the armor isn’t great. Ur better off getting a Lowe or something else
strange thicket
@wise moth pretty sure kv and st1 is better than is and is8
@haughty forge KV3 is not better than IS
haughty forge
it is only tier 7 , u wont be playing long at that tier also , kv3 and IS are sorta equal and i prefer kv3
graceful rock
I just bought the SU-122-54 do u have any tips for it?
formal lantern
@solid gate
kindred wren
@graceful rock Use your mobility to punch people with your dpm and alpha right where it hurts
graceful rock
Mobilty..... None?
kindred wren
What do you mean, none? It has medium mobility
graceful rock
Comparing to su-101 it's a turtle
kindred wren
Then don’t use your mobility and instead hope that all the enemies shoot your gun mantlet
fervent bobcat
I need tips for the AMX AC 48, it plays like garbage.
kindred wren
Medium killer. Try to play a bit behind your heavies when facing heavies and be more of a supporter since your armour won’t hold up well against enemy heavies and tds, however it’s fairly mobile which allows you to roll with the mediums and spearhead the attack there
fervent bobcat
Sorta like the Jgpanther?
kindred wren
Pre-buff or current state?
fervent bobcat
Current state
kindred wren
Yes and no, for the gun more or less yes, but your armour is worse tier for tier and you also have those weakspots on top
So you should be more careful
fervent bobcat
Kay, thanks
kindred wren
Good luck with it
copper apex
Any tips for amx 13 90? Feels like a huge downgrade from amx 13 75, less dpm worse gun handling, feels more sluggish too.
rapid orchid
Stock or fully upgraded?
copper apex
Got all the upgrades but at 80% crew now
copper apex
Yeah but even at 100% you get 1.8k dpm vs the 2.2k on 13 75. Also running same gun as 13 75 gives less dpm
kindred wren
You can be quite cheeky with the AMX 13 75, but that doesn’t really work anymore from tier eight because the accuracy, gun handling and later on size don’t allow that anymore as much. Try to play more around flanking and clipping people who are on a reload (also, don’t force your entire clip and be satisfied with one or two shots only when you would take a shot in return) and avoid frontal engagements. You can also push with your team and set clips to weaken certain enemies while they are distracted
copper apex
What sucks is that im getting run over by tier 7s like the typ62 that just overwhelms me with sheer dpm
kindred wren
I actually feel that, luckily that won’t happen as much with the tier nine and ten anymore because 930 clip potential hurts the mediums who could do that a lot, and the dpm is also better
To be honest the tier eight is (in my opinion) the worst tank in the line. But it teaches you how to set flanks correctly and how to get away with clips which will be very useful later on in tier nine and ten
copper apex
I think i might free xp it XD, fv301s also blows the crap outta it
graceful rock
Is obj. 263 a good tank?
keen escarp
@graceful rock yessssir
rapid orchid
@graceful rock very good tank, mate
elfin marten
Best question ever, has there ever been a tank that had its gun lower than the top half of the hull?
kindred wren
B1
rapid orchid
ARL V 36
kindred wren
M3 Lee... basically hull mounted weapons. But those are kind of rare
ARL V36 has its gun in the upper half of the hull
elfin marten
Like this like in the history of tank designs... -_-
rapid orchid
Is that real? But how about the elevation?
elfin marten
It’s fake photoshop I did but it’s purpose is to hug the enemy while using shells to hit weak lower glacis plates... elevation is 1 degrees max ,depression is 2-3 max
kindred wren
No, because the barrel would constantly eat dirt
elfin marten
There aren’t many tall tanks with a large space under them between the bottom of hull and ground...
kindred wren
The gun of the M3 Lee is also in the upper part of the hull
elfin marten
I did say lower half...
karmic nymph
The Churchill had a gun in the hull but not in the bottom part.
haughty forge
many tanks has gun in the hull wdym
kindred wren
There is no such thing as a tank or self-propelled gun or anything like that that has the gun in the lower half of the hull. You get somewhat centre with hull-mounted support guns, but not the lower half because it is quite frankly non-sense to place a gun there (loading, gun arcs, problems with traversing rough terrain etc.)
haughty forge
it is just for a meme so whatever
kindred wren
However, there are some tanks that have their guns fairly low to the ground due to their small size. That would include the E10 and E25
elfin marten
I would like to know the tallest tank in blitz(space between bottom of hull and ground). Just want to photoshop it...
I think this might be the closest to my desc., has quite a low gun to the ground...
... imagine seeing this version of the Sheridan...
grand linden
@elfin marten im pretty sure its the exp
tulip sail
@elfin marten the reason the b1's gun is so low is to make it easier to fire into bunkers through their firing slits
bronze pond
Add leopard with l44 gun and make it premium
hollow phoenix
bronze pond
They can nerf the gun statistics
solid gate
Not justifiable
karmic nymph
What if the leo had a 250mm mantlet or similar
bronze pond
No
karmic nymph
It doesn’t really match the tank
bronze pond
Just give the L44 cannon
thick trout
What if the Leo was just... errr left how it is now?
haughty forge
@thick trout Leo? vickers took most of the things from leo , it only has good gun
thick trout
That's the Vickers being too good especially for a high skill cap tank, the Leo is fine how it is
thorny edge
Agreed
solid gate
Leo needs a shorter reload, maybe 5.0 seconds
thick trout
It already has best in class dpm and the third best dpm at tier 10 it's fine
If you improve the gun too much then it's skill ceiling becomes too high and it's too easy to abuse for the better players
undone python
What is the best tier 10 british tank?
solid gate
I do not know
rotund palm
Is T25 Pilot 1 worth it or No ?
haughty forge
no
glass relic
Not worth it.
toxic hamlet
Is there any way that i can get the tankestein its been weeks and i havent seen a single certificate yet
idle valley
What did you guys use to see the armor thickness and stuff of those tanks up there in chat
haughty forge
@idle valley armor inspector , @toxic hamlet u opened smasher lockbox , there is no way to get them now
idle valley
Thx
haughty forge
it says can be found in game crates OR received as a reward
toxic hamlet
Sad i wasted a tank for that key
bronze pond
Hi
hollow notch
People calling for leopard 1 buffs scare me. That gun is actually broken.
viral coyote
The fv4202 gun is insane 4408 dpm whit hesh
fast compass
Yes if your rng doesn't decide to screw with you.
haughty forge
fv4202 is off meta
solid gate
Hello. I want to show you why T49's 152mm should be buffed:
-penetration:
1:13 - not enough penetration to pen Lowe's turret (sides) (HEAT)
1:41 - cannot pen IS-5 front in any way (HEAT)
-alpha (and RNG? idk)
2:41 - seriously?? that rhm should be dead..
-aiming
Acutally troll gun is troll gun so i dont have any remarks, maybe 2:14 moment but that's normal.
BTW I have played with Calibrated Shells equipment.
viral coyote
@solid gate the purpose of the t49 is to be a fun derp tank to play and not to be a good tank
solid gate
@viral coyote I know. and thats why im writing this. Im not a new player. I have played this tank 548 battles... My all battles is 7218
It was fun.. I haven't played this tank since 7.1 or 7.0.
#BringBackGoodOldT49
thick trout
T49 is perfectly fine how it is now, alpha, mobility and HEP are a formidable combination if you can use it
solid gate
Uh.. I mean its not like before.. Watched the replay? T49 had (as i good remember) 960 HE alpha.. the Rhm would be dead..
gentle wasp
780 HE alpha
solid gate
I think HEAT had little bigger alpha.. When I have hit Panther for 476 I was really confused...
780 HE alpha
@gentle wasp Always?
gentle wasp
Afaik
hollow belfry
The lowest HEAT roll is like 420 I think. The T49 is fine tho, no need for a buff
acoustic pollen
hey so im winning a bunch in my IS but nowhere near as much in my IS 3.... its not maxed out yet so that would help, esp the gun for pen, but other than that any pointers? it feels more sluggish and the turret turns slower....i use both fuel boosters and the rations pack...
hollow belfry
Use free exp.
gentle wasp
Hulldown and don’t be afraid to go to med side. The hull armor isn’t good enough to fight most things, even frontally.
storm apex
I'm losing credits on my IS-3 whenever I fire prammo on it. It costs so much!!!
Is this normal, or should i just use AP?
acoustic pollen
yeah i am building up my free xp for sure
gentle wasp
If you’re worried about your performance in it just park it and play something else to farm fxp. Or wait for uprising.
hollow belfry
Been saving free exp before buying the Panther on my alt
In the meantime I saved lots of credits and could put most of the equipment on it. Alreayd had the engine, skipped the turret and gun. Had to get 8k for the tracks as my « stock » grind
tiny plume
ok
storm apex
ok
bronze pond
bring back the 105mm gun on sherman
storm apex
ok
bronze pond
Ok
exotic pagoda
Is it bad that I have 5 prem and collectible tanks and have only 4 tech tree tanks?
bronze pond
Yes
exotic pagoda
Why is it bad?
bronze pond
look like an wallet warrior for me
exotic pagoda
Actually, I never spend my own money on games. My healthcare gives me a dollar every time I walk 10000 steps in a day
So, at the end of each months I get about 30 extra bucks
solid gate
Is there any official place or way to request that a specific tank be brought back to the store?
lyric oriole
No
gentle shard
@graceful rock Its more reliable than SU-101 in every way
And its not a turtle for sure with 50kmh max speed
You can very easily keep up with your mediums and even flank turretless tds
Or you can sit back and snipe in maps like dead rail
It has the accuracy for that
But since I bought the WT auf. Pz. IV it feels more fun to me
keen escarp
The Bdr is only tier 5 with 225 avg dmg that's cool i am on that tank and it's a little op but whatever
gentle wasp
*only t5 heavy
small cosmos
The light tank has it too
Also the flak bus
gentle wasp
The toaster has 220 alpha. And if you mean the Leo that doesn’t really count.
karmic nymph
Also the kv1 with the howitzer has 230 for heat
small cosmos
The amx
solid gate
Scav
Bathtub
Leo
Nightmare
KV122
knotty charm
hi sorry to interrupt,,but when do yall think the e25 is gna come out in stores again?
lyric oriole
Don't know
knotty charm
ahh,, thanks thou
quasi mirage
so sad 😦 no 90 mm amx, tbf its better than pc where they deleted the mobility
solid gate
I just got the maus
jolly urchin
gentle wasp
It doesn’t have the 105 anymore (did it ever?)
kindred wren
You only get the 76mm option (no)
south vale
The 105 was only available for the T5 Sherman
lyric oriole
@gentle wasp it used to have one, it's the Meta tier 6 on console iirc, use the 105, derp lights, and keep yourself safe
gentle wasp
It had one pre 5.5? I don’t remember that. Wow
small cosmos
Before 5.5 everything has a 105
hollow notch
RIP HEATzer
pale crow
I love low-tier durp. It's just hard to find it in good quality anymore. The BT-art got nerfed hard, but this thing is still the best. Just got this 3 mins ago.
Doing 203 damage in 1 shot to a tier 2 is SO satisfying.
Call me a clubber, but I do it because I like the tank, I don't care about stats really.
keen escarp
K @pale crow
potent forum
**is3 got a REALLY good turret. You can magnetize it to your enemies after your destruction! **
See #585463961730940929 message
solid gate
Hey guys quick question which one does better at its tier JPanther or Nashorn
Both would be maxed out
tulip sail
Jagdpanther
grand linden
The Bdr is only tier 5 with 225 avg dmg that's cool i am on that tank and it's a little op but whatever
@keen escarp
Pretty sure the nightmare gets 280 alpha and the scavenger gets 250 alpha and doesn't the bathtub get the same gun?
keen escarp
@grand linden no bathtub has 220 or 200 and i said Bdr is the only one with 225 avg
edgy dune
even if i am trying to stop him with kv-4 while sidescraping what the actual s*** is this ?
Who is going to stop him guys can you please someone explain to me
haughty forge
@edgy dune action x , obj 252u, tiger 2 , progetto 46, german bulldog , isu 152 , wz 120 ft
candid harbor
I won't add tiger 2, german puppy, isu 152 and progetto 46 to dat list
neon juniper
I love the 140. Best tank in the game
signal vortex
was it a good idea getting the MT-25 instead of the T-34-85?
haughty forge
yes
fast compass
Well depends on if it is your first ever tier 6. Lights usually aren't a great choice for new players
If you have experience with light tanks than definitely yes
green jetty
I won't add tiger 2, german puppy, isu 152 and progetto 46 to dat list
@candid harbor objection the 46 is a better 44
Tiger 2 is pretty much an OP tank now and the HE and mobility of the Kpf make it super fun and strong
heavy nacelle
90mm is no where near broken
small cosmos
@pale crow try the marder 2
pale crow
A bit rare bro
small cosmos
I have it on 2 accounts
pale crow
Wish I could
small cosmos
Did u get the tank at any point ??
Do a vrt ticket
small cosmos
Ooof
pale crow
Besides, you can only restore 1 tank per year now
small cosmos
🤔🤔🤔
It’s unlimited now btw
pale crow
... REALLY?
small cosmos
Yeah since 5.5
pale crow
I think they changed it back
small cosmos
Nah
I’ve done 3 this year
pale crow
Looked a month ago and it said 1 per year
small cosmos
Try it more than once then
pale crow
K. Worth a shot
candid arch
🤔🤔🤔
It’s unlimited now btw
@small cosmos I think theres a 10 per day limit
ember arrow
if facing tier 8, would you rather be a BP, t29 or Tiger1... tiger 1 has more dpm than t29, aswell as base pen but t29 has better turrret and hull and more pen on the premium, havent checked BP stats tho
tame jungle
Black prince
haughty forge
t29
tulip edge
I’d likely take the Tiger I or T29.
It depends what tier 8s you will be facing in general, but I would rather take these two tanks over the BP because they have better mobility and higher alpha. Two aspects of a tank that become more significant if you are in a bottom tier match up.
solid gate
On the T1 collector item can you combine it or something to get a T1?
small cosmos
It’s an exp certificate
solid gate
gentle wasp
@solid gate it’s just a collectible item that can be exchanged for free xp. Has nothing to do with the actual tank besides bearing its likeness
(Sorry Martin)
wintry turret
Is SU-130PM worth buying if I already own the Skorpion G?
haughty forge
no
keen escarp
@broken sentinel oof
broken sentinel
You can check BlitzStars if you have any inquiries about tank stats
karmic nymph
I’ve seen the su 130 pm get some really weird bounces
gentle wasp
Same, and it seems to be HE proof as well
lethal basin
Should i get the 130pm or wait till skorpion g comes to the store?
gentle wasp
Wait for Skorp
pliant viper
I rage sold my tiger 1,first tier 7
How to play it,I keep getting penned from everyone and everything and everywhere
gentle wasp
Bully meds, hulldown, sidescrape
pliant viper
What's sidescraping?
hollow belfry
If you’re getting penned from everywhere it means you’re in a crossfire, which isn’t ideal for any tznk.
gentle wasp
If you’re getting penned by everything you’re probably playing it like a super heavy, it won’t bounce every shot, especially not vs other heavies.
Side scraping is when you use hard cover to expose only your angled side to deflect shots
haughty forge
pretty much any tier 7 ht can pen it
hollow belfry
It’s a great tank
pliant viper
I'm playing the t34-85 now,almost there to the t43
I have the American T71 light tank researched but it doesn't seem to be very good
gentle wasp
It is pretty good. Nice mobility, small profile, and a quick reload
pliant viper
If you’re getting penned by everything you’re probably playing it like a super heavy, it won’t bounce every shot, especially not vs other heavies.
Side scraping is when you use hard cover to expose only your angled side to deflect shots
@gentle wasp
Thanks a lot
hollow belfry
For some reason I loved the Chi-Ri. It’s dpm and intraclip were just dope
pliant viper
It is pretty good. Nice mobility, small profile, and a quick reload
@gentle wasp
Autoloader is good?
gentle wasp
Yea I imagine the pen isn’t too good, and you’re not going to demolish stuff with the alpha, but it is something like a 10 second mag reload with decent accuracy
pliant viper
Hmmm yeah
So I have three options on the table
Rebuy the tiger 1
Buy the Russian T43
Buy the American T71
What to do?
hollow belfry
You shouldn’t have sold your Tiger I
gentle wasp
All three are quite capable, it just depends on your playstyle and what tank you want down the line.
pliant viper
I want something that is mobile but can dish out damage
gentle wasp
43 is all around decent. Fast gun, decent mobility, some armor.
71 is a pesky flanker to clip and dip with.
hollow belfry
The Tiger goes 44 kmph and has a great gun for a T7 heavy. Good at farming dmg with a reasonable 2,4k dpm
pliant viper
Alright thanks Tankeatingtiger and Admiral Hipper
haughty forge
lttb>t43
gentle wasp
Np man
hollow belfry
Np. And overall, the LT line is probs more enjoyable than the MT one. But the T-44 gets you the LB-1 gun, which you would have to grind/free exp on the T-54
Or just do both lines to get the LB-1 and the engine for the T-54
haughty forge
@hollow belfry or grind free exp , had to use more than 110k ffs
hollow belfry
T9 stock grinds are the bane of existence
keen escarp
Kk
solid gate
Tiger 1 now is a big medium?
gentle wasp
always has been
nocturne sage
shells nosies
keen escarp
Imagine Helsing shooting 3 shells
solid gate
No, Just no
sharp siren
900 to sp 1cs
solid gate
always has been
@gentle wasp agreed
orchid nymph
is type 62 and wz122-2 worth it if i already have some russian 122s and the rudy
gentle wasp
@orchid nymph Wz is arguably the best IS variant and the Type 62 is still one of the top light tanks. Very much worth it.
orchid nymph
aight
green moth
This is exactly why prem restrictions should exist
plucky summit
I definitely haven't received the Lowe for free early in my gaming career and have played over a thousand battles in it p-p
orchid nymph
uwu
tiny plume
Is it even him
plucky summit
Uh, he's complaining about another player having prem tanks early...
keen escarp
Hmmmm
blazing cobalt
hm?
keen escarp
hm
stark path
How do we in game battle chat?
keen escarp
t h e i c o n d u d
gentle wasp
Press enter
stark path
Sorta new
keen escarp
With Type 62 as pfp?? kk
stark path
Not on desktop but mobile.
keen escarp
Boi i said icon i play moblie also
stark path
The Tiger 1 or Tiger P ?
gentle wasp
1
keen escarp
1
stark path
Ok Tiger 1 it is.
keen escarp
U can use tiger p its a we suggestion
gentle wasp
Tiger P isn’t good
keen escarp
I didnt say use Tiger p. If he wants. its an suggestion
eternal magnet
Should I buy desert tog 2?
orchid nymph
just bought the type 62 dragon and the wz-122-2 celestial. any tips>
gentle wasp
@eternal magnet no
@orchid nymph the HEAT on the Type 62 is a tool, not a crutch. Don’t let it get you into trouble.
eternal magnet
Aw man
orchid nymph
ISU is better
modern palm
just bought the type 62 dragon and the wz-122-2 celestial. any tips>
@orchid nymph u dont need tips to play the wz112-2 thats the whole point its the pinnacle of braindead gameplay: drive forward and shoot
orchid nymph
ive played a lot of russian so im all set with the wz. just wondering whether to run calibrated or rammer on the type 62
gentle wasp
Run CS
modern palm
id run the rammer since ur flanking tanks anyways
gentle wasp
You get a glorious 275 HEAT pen with CS
orchid nymph
calibrated with the wz too? only has 215 pen on Ap
rapid orchid
Ye
modern palm
run calibrated with the wz112
gentle wasp
Ye make your shots count
fickle jacinth
Eh, boys.
Tog 2 is on sale with Desert Rare camo and 14 days premium as well as some other goodies thrown in for 2k gold.
Now I don't know WHY you'd take a tank that's essentially a giant target evevryone wants to kill first, but if you want the tank, go grab it now.
blazing cobalt
tog boat
keen escarp
Well once a kv2 or su152 comes play good @fickle jacinth
haughty spindle
Well I have a question what would 6.095k damage with T95 get you on the rankings leaderboard.
gentle wasp
Blitzstars.com Hall of Fame holds all the answers @haughty spindle
coarse lava
Should I buy gold to restore my AMX 30B or get the WZ112-2 and type 62
rapid orchid
Restoring using credits is available
gentle wasp
You need gold to restore collectors @rapid orchid
@coarse lava get the Wz/Type bundle
rapid orchid
Ah, i see
haughty forge
funny how everyone complains smasher and having 250mm of base heat pen but no one complains about type 62 having same pen as a light
solid gate
I mean an 85mm having good pen isn’t really a problem esp since type 62 has pretty meh gun stats and velocity not to mention the alpha becomes 75mm alpha with it
And if you wanna go there the lekpz 90mm shares the same pen
haughty spindle
Well sure @gentle wasp but it only covers the top 10
warm hamlet
so cs or rammer for wz
gentle wasp
112-2? CS
warm hamlet
but why
gentle wasp
Because DPS means a lot more than DPM for heavies.
gentle wasp
It has good HEAT and running CS will give it 297
Having an 11 second reload does you no good if you can’t pen.
warm hamlet
hmmmm
nocturne sage
Any tips or play style for the t20. I rarely play mostly bc I find it to be bland and ugly (it looks like a potato) I’ve tried playing a light role and shooting from a far and and getting close when the round nears it ends. But doesn’t seem to be effective enough
exotic marten
WG should add the a7v as a teir 1 collector tank
elfin marten
Too slow... slower than tog 2...
exotic marten
Yeah that's why it should be a teir 1
keen escarp
@exotic marten theres a At-1 collector dud?? And no tier 1 collect u bumm
solid gate
:)
opaque sparrow
lease tell me where the chat is where you can listen to music
long raft
Hey guys ! What can you tell me about wz 113 and 121?
haughty forge
no
long raft
Is it pretty Góod because bug guns
copper kindle
@long raft more or less uparmored russian heavies
pliant viper
I was considering checking out new lines due to this event
keen escarp
Guys i officially started my sherid grind
Also imma grind for Stanadard Tomorrow
haughty forge
and i offfically started my stb grind
keen escarp
Nice
fast compass
Started from which tier?
fast compass
Oh nice
keen escarp
I have 39k free imma save also the event is coming
haughty forge
i had 47k and spent like 20k for tier 1 -4
fast compass
I got 80k going to spend it to go directly to pter
haughty forge
pter?
keen escarp
Wait your grinding for p43 tier wowowowowowowowowow
fast compass
P43. Ter
haughty forge
@fast compass u gonna free xp it?
keen escarp
How much xp from bis??
fast compass
Yeah. I really don't want to play tier 6 or below if possible
keen escarp
Also I might spend 1k in gold since the event
haughty forge
@fast compass wait for 50% discount
fast compass
Yeah that is the plan
haughty forge
i want to pass the STA1 Asap
rapid orchid
Why?
keen escarp
For some free xp sooo. Also i might spend 10 dollars to get 3250 gold and spend 1600
fast compass
Everyone wants to pass sta as fast as possible
haughty forge
@rapid orchid cuz trash
keen escarp
Honestly i never was a fan of japanese grind at all i only have the girls und tanks
rapid orchid
Oh
copper kindle
@keen escarp Chi Ri is hella fun man
haughty forge
and those certificates are time limited.... BUT WHY JUST WHY
rapid orchid
So, i will stop at chi ri
fast compass
I couldn't make chi ri work but atleast it is a different tank unlike sta which plain sucks
haughty forge
7.1 stats came out on ru server
copper kindle
nothing like unloading half a 1000 damage in overconfident enemies
keen escarp
whats crazy is that the japanese grind is nice but annoying
Cause literally u can get penned somewhere in the front and it never got my attention
rapid orchid
Japanese tank is annoying paper
fast compass
But the tier 9 and 10 are well worth the pain
keen escarp
My next grind is probably the Wz 121 cause i already have the Wz 120
Its stock... So.
But honestly when will they make the game easier
strange thicket
it is already way easier than before
copper kindle
they made it more noob friendly
keen escarp
Like in 2017 remeber when you got 1.25k xp for getting like a class
And gears and stuff.. Man i even miss old the old victory music
I actually have a clip from 2018 on my old yt account i had the T26E4 SuperPershing
I got it from containers
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL..
😏 😏
strange thicket
okay but what does that has to do with what you said before
it is only proving that the game was way harder back then
copper kindle
forgot about the gears lol
keen escarp
Hmm ok
R e m e b e r t h e o l d g u n s o u n d s l i k e t h e T 7 C a r h e h e
is wargaming treating us good
Say A for No
Say B for Yes
haughty forge
C: cant relate
rapid orchid
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
keen escarp
Can u
rapid orchid
I forget about the old times
haughty forge
brit lts needs nerf
keen escarp
baddie
rapid orchid
Brit gun needs pen nerf
keen escarp
** boss babe**
xD
haughty forge
exactly , vickers cr with vickers light gun is insane
rapid orchid
Ye, and Black Prince gun is annoying. Fast reload and high pen
keen escarp
Imagine vickers with spaced armor
rapid orchid
Oh no
keen escarp
Wotb Downloads Before : 100m+
After 10m+
haughty forge
black prince is slow and anything can cut through , it is also heavy and it can have 171mm pen gun @rapid orchid , vickers cr is tier 9 light tank with 245mm pen which in normal pen of tier 10 meds and lts
keen escarp
The fv301 is like the BP with 200 avg dmg
rapid orchid
But faster
keen escarp
Wait fv301 has less re than bp???!
haughty forge
it does not have same dpm and fv301 is tier 8
rapid orchid
So, how about the brit's turreted TDs?
haughty forge
high skill cap and well rewarding
keen escarp
Wait lol i just realized theres no brit TD
rapid orchid
Look at that AT line, high dpm, THICC armor, Slowww
keen escarp
Wait hold up
haughty forge
@keen escarp there is 9 of them ._.
true delta
Hey guys, do you think the T-62A is superior over the 121 B? And is it worth selling my T57 Heavy to buy it?
keen escarp
not
haughty forge
@true delta dont sell , grind creds, and yes t62 is better than 121b
crude mulch
I has tier -100000000
rapid orchid
Wut...
stuck spoke
._.
ocean maple
https://tenor.com/view/pepe-clown-honk-honk-honk-red-nose-gif-13876101
Why are you comparing the black prince with a light tank
brisk jacinth
tame jungle
Jpanther gang once again below ferdi gang
fair vigil
Hey, does anyone have any recommendations for the VK 36.01 gun? I looked at one and it had less pen than the standard
gentle wasp
Use the 88 because it’s worth losing a little pen for more alpha.
fair vigil
Okay, so I could use the perk that ups pen to compensate as well right?
south vale
Can anyone explain how the hell the Ferdi is better than the JG?
gentle wasp
@fair vigil if you struggle with the pen yea that is an option
fair vigil
Ah, thank you
gentle wasp
No problem
hollow belfry
The pen wasn’t an issue to me on the VK 36 tbh
haughty spindle
Okay
covert dagger
I want WG to give back the 10mm of armor they took away from sides of the Pz. ll J, because now tier 1's can got right threw the side of it. I bought the tank for the armor, and I want its armor back even if they have to take away the penetration they gave it. I've never used it in real battles so I don't seal club it, but I use it a lot in training rooms and want the armor back!
wise moth
@south vale Because these are stats from CIS server, and no one on CIS shoots gold
hollow belfry
Sure
What if they actually used data from all servers, since there are other servers than the CIS one?
south vale
Or, post all the stats for all the servers .-.
hollow belfry
Nuh, we’re just too noobish ig
pine tulip
I just demolished that new t25 pilot in my t44, not much red on that new tank
fickle jacinth
@pine tulip
Meadsy did a video on it.
The pilot tank is freakin terrrible.
No pen, no armor, all bleh.
hollow notch
Good, better than having (yet another) op tank to spam
fickle jacinth
Smasher ain't OP, tbh.
I more or less happily destroy them in a WZ 112-2 Celestial.
Rock solid turret and all red frontal armor bounces anything it throws at me, then the big gun go boom and deals back the pain.
I hate facing it in my Dikker Max tho. That poor thing is a one,-shot for the Smasher.
wise moth
@fickle jacinth You’re forgetting the fact that 112-2 is a tier 8 heavy, not a tier 7.
And also that smasher doesn’t need to pen you when he can HE spam your turret for 400 per shot
vernal gale
Hello, I want to clarify something not normal but really not normal thank you for reading this message and not to dispute (I am talking about people who dispute everything you say) THE D-5S is a Russian Tier 6 gun on the SU -85 and the SU-100 how is it possible that the latter is 160 dmg at AP while the turret version the D-5T has 200 dmg at AP this is something that needs to be fixed because on WoT classics the 2 guns have the same dmg and the D-5S is an improved version of the D-5T so as to reload faster I think that it would take 10sec of reload for 200 dmg thank you for my suggestion
haughty forge
@vernal gale d5t and d5s is different , also blitz is not copy paste of wot pc
vernal gale
hat's not what I'm trying to say is that the D-5S is the same gun as the D-5T so it must have the same characteristics as its twin
haughty forge
but why?
kindred wren
The D-5S deals less damage than the D5S-85BM because it’s a lower tier gun. Just like on PC the alpha of gun calibers increases the higher you go in the tiers, for example 100mm guns increase from 280 to 310 and 105mm guns increase from 310 to 350.
There can also be a lot of different alphas for the same caliber in the same tier, for example the 150-155mm caliber class has between 560 and 640 damage at tier nine and ten.
And this only gets worse at lower tiers where every second gun has its own personal alpha with little logic other than ‘balance’ to account for it. Don’t look for sense there because you won’t find it
vernal gale
I would like to clarify that WoT must keep characteristics quite similar to that of reality if a rule has been established it is put for the other version of the gun because for example despite the different versions of the D-25T the reload, the precision, the penetration are changed but no version of the D-25T has more or less than 400 dmg whether it is the D-2-5T the D-25T the D-25TA the D-25T-44 all on average 400 dmg so why not the D-5T these 2 guns are not different they are not made for the same use
kindred wren
Also, the D5T-85BM has the same alpha as the D5S-85BM
haughty forge
@vernal gale they are named different for reason ._.
vernal gale
yes @kindred wren
except that the D-5S and the D-5T are the same guns they are all 2 Tier 6 if WG is looking for a stock gun there is no case to install the 76mm
haughty forge
@vernal gale they are not same , one has S and one has T
kindred wren
Which tank runs the D-5T?
vernal gale
Also, the D5T-85BM has the same alpha as the D5S-85BM
@kindred wren
haughty forge
su85 i think lux
kindred wren
No, that one runs the D-5S and D5S-85BM
vernal gale
@vernal gale they are not same , one has S and one has T
@haughty forge because one is made for a turret tank and the other for a tank destroyer only the barrel size changes and there is a tank which has the D-5T the KV-1S
haughty forge
ehhh whatever, i dont get the point
stuck spoke
._. Buff the tortoise @vernal gale
vernal gale
yes or no @stuck spoke
stuck spoke
Possibly
vernal gale
yes
dense glacier
vernal gale
don't change the discussion please
kindred wren
Just WG and their names. Don’t take the names of the guns too seriously, it’s more built around how many modules you have to grind and how interchangeable they are and not any historical accuracy. The damage is different for balance purposes (or rather for making the stock grind awful on the SU-85)... WG already gave up the concept of same-caliber-same-alpha
haughty forge
it is like taking Shell names seriously lol
kindred wren
You said same gun same alpha
vernal gale
look at article
kindred wren
I believe you that it’s the same gun, that’s not really what we’re debating
haughty forge
it is arcade game so historical accuracy is non existent @vernal gale
kindred wren
It’s just that same gun doesn’t necessarily mean same alpha just like same caliber does not necessarily mean same alpha. In Blitz I could take the HE damage of the L7 105mm gun that the Leopard 1, FV4202 and M48 Patton amongst others feature
They didn’t do it because they want stock guns to be considerably worse. I don’t think that the gun’s name even mattered to them
vernal gale
if it is the same weapon in this case why this one does not have enough similar characteristics in the case of having a good gun stock of shit why not the 76mm stock of WoT PC
tribal badge
I saw somewhere that T-62A is being removed/ replaced by another tank Is it true?
Because I’m going for T-62A and I want to make sure just in case it gets removed removed instead of just removed outta tech tree
kindred wren
Maybe convenience, maybe because they didn’t want an extra module. In the end it doesn’t really matter, and while it’s awkward to look at it’s probably what we’re stuck with because Wargaming probably has better things to do than look at details like this
@tribal badge I haven’t heard anything like that, and there were no official announcements about that
tribal badge
Oki
fickle jacinth
Okay so, I may have missed it, or be dumb, but where did the DW come from?
Last time I played in tier 5 (2 weeks ago) it didn't exist.
Now I'm back and grinding Stug 3, and it's in every battle.
Was it in the store or something?
vernal gale
it's absurd all the guns in version for russian tank destroyer none had a drop in alpha look on your game so why the D-5S would have a low alpha look at D-10S D-2-5S D-25S none has lowered alpha certain one has a lowered penetration but none has lowered alpha if WG tries to make a lowered gun it the little because the prototypes of the SU-85 had many 85mm guns
broken sentinel
I just picked up the T95E6. It's a nice change from the Chieftain Mk6 honestly.
Don't get me wrong, the Mk.6 is definitely better than the E6, but the E6 is a nice change of pace. It's a little more challenging than the Mk.6 but it still performs very well.
I tried about 3 different combinations of equipment:
- Refined gun, Engine boost consumable with adren
- VStab, Engine boost consumable with adren
- Refined gun, double repair and adren
The final one lead me to do 6.4k damage, so I'm sticking to that one
bleak mauve
I wish you could us the ww1 british male mark tank that is the same type as my profile photo in reagular battles. The tank some people got for the 100th anniversary of the Tank.
stone minnow
I have to pick between the following:
VK 28.01
VK 30.01 D
T-34-85
MT-25
P.43 Bis
What do?
thick trout
MT25 because I love the 8 shot autoloader
stone minnow
I went with the Biscuit
solid gate
I really want a tier X german light tank, the leopard 1 is cool and all but if its going to be paper thin it might as well have light tank camo and mobility
modern palm
flipwagen intensifies
plucky summit
I like the T-2020 a little too much
tough dune
@tribal badge That was for PC.
pallid gorge
@plucky summit I haven't seen anyone play that tank in the Asia server
plucky summit
Yeah people hate it for the price to OP ratio, but I like it
plucky summit
Lol? 0s are not problems
glass relic
You get free damage after all from those who you carry
plucky summit
Yeah, less team dmg = more personal dmg >:)
keen escarp
Those people just wanna make you say u on something like drugss
glass relic
Their cat just slap their phones off their hands
solid gate
Should I get the T95E6 or T-54
broken sentinel
depends on your playstyle
and whether you have premium tanks or not
if you have the Chieftain Mk6 and do well in it, I recommend you do some research on the T95E6 before buying
glass relic
^
solid gate
Ok but wut about opinions of the T-54
glass relic
If you like a medium with good armor a nice mobility and you want to get 62a or 140 you can go for it.
solid gate
Ok thx
keen escarp
Wait those are in stores! Wow wargaming runnin low on cash
tiny plume
What are in store?
next solstice
a few things
solid gate
SU-130PM, Progetto 46, T95E6, T-22 crates, exc.
pallid gorge
Can't wait for Christmas event
pallid gorge
The hull doesn't look like the t2020
rapid orchid
It's abrams bruh
neat spindle
Alright guys. T95E6 or su-130pm?
rapid orchid
Hmmmm
gentle wasp
@neat spindle neither
pallid gorge
@neat spindle t95e6
It's really agile and it counts as a medium tank just because of how fast it is,I mean it's not the fastest but it can use it's 10 degrees of gun depression effectively.
The hatch on top is very troll and it sometimes bounces shots
gentle wasp
There’s no reason to play it (not to mention pay for it) when the e5 exists
pallid gorge
Ya got money,buy it lol
I haven't tried the su-130pm cuz I haven't bought it
gentle wasp
That’s a terrible mindset and doesn’t even make sense
pallid gorge
What are you trying to say?
pallid gorge
@neat spindle if that's your type of role then go ahead
neat spindle
But nothing on the su 130 and it’s gun seems pretty nice. I’m more of a heavy tank guy but I do like td’s and the t95e6 isn’t my type of heavy I think. I’ve heard the t95e6 is kinda like the amx 30b just slow
gentle wasp
@neat spindle Su gun is not that good, Skorp is a better option.
pallid gorge
The t95e6 is kinda easy to ace.Deal 3k dmg and 3-4 kills and u get an ace
gentle wasp
The low ace bar is more of an indicator that it is rare and/or not good. Not really a good thing.
plucky summit
T-2020 took 5k to ace, and a kolobanovs smh
haughty forge
@pallid gorge e6 is not good brah
pallid gorge
Imo it's a great tank,I use it as a medium tank
haughty forge
tank is meh
haughty forge
@tiny quest kuzu u r trash smh
tiny quest
Damn. Mine stats are way better lol. No offense
I’m really enjoying the tank like it’s and ok tank
tiny dagger
Im needing replays for my yt
haughty forge
@tiny quest any med with solid turret can do what it does better
tiny quest
Forget it. It’s a good tank for me. Reaper I advise u to get it then comment on it
haughty forge
naw
hexed tundra
They need to change t49 heat to AP
plucky summit
Naw I love it getting rekt by angled armor and tracks ;)
solid gate
Always
zenith bison
Aiee
hushed shadow
I’d go for the gun first. Helps when you can pen everything and do more dmg, even if the tank is slow
solid gate
I would personally do turret gun engine tracks but you should get whatever you feel it’s lacking from the remaining modules
mint aurora
Ok thanks 👍
karmic nymph
Just saying it’s super slow with the stock engine, but the top gun is nice