I just realized I thought you said the 2020 not the 220, 220 is definitely rare
#vehicles-discussion
viral lodge
tulip sail
Lol its ok the t2020 was just plain sad
mossy wadi
@mossy wadi
Mmm smells like sealclubber
@stray valley im sorry?
open solstice
Is the t28 prot hard to grind?
I don't think the tank will forgive mistakes with the stock gun and 1 avg speed
stray valley
Ke ni otsu is OP, and if you use it to raise your stats @mossy wadi you are what i call a sealclubber :)
mossy wadi
no i dont i play the game for fun
tulip sail
Use free xp to get its top mods its grind is horrendous @open solstice
mossy wadi
my victory ratio is 47% lmao
open solstice
I want to try and get t30 but i don't want to have the headache of 1 avg speed before the engine
I've heard t30 is best t9 td
mossy wadi
@open solstice t95 actually
open solstice
Ahhh i don't like turretless bro
I know they have more firepower but I'm not good with snapshots in turretless td
mossy wadi
ig i love t11oe3 tho
haughty forge
t30 it bettter than t95 wdy,
open solstice
Until you get he in the back by e100
I purposely go behind any t110 series tank just to HE themš
keen escarp
@haughty forge how did you get purple role?
haughty forge
@keen escarp asia server role
keen escarp
Oh they changed
haughty forge
excuse me what, i did 1,1k dmg on churchill 3 and got 88 cases? on a t5 tank? LEGIT'
warm flare
should I grind T49 or IS-8?
hollow notch
@haughty forge :)
haughty forge
@hollow notch u were legit correct
tulip edge
@warm flare Really up to you if you want to grind through a heavium or derp light tank.
IS-7 at the end of the line is solid for random battles, but struggles in anything competitive and is overshadowed by the IS-4.
Sheridan is also fine after its mobility being toned down, and of course you have the controversial ATGM mechanic.
warm flare
lol i just want to know which is easier to grind
tulip edge
You didnāt specify in your question.
Overall, probably the light tanks you want to go for then if you want less of a hassle with your grind
warm flare
k, thanks!
wheat hearth
I want Spaghetti 46 in store... I want it! :((
limber sonnet
Which tanks will be the findland tanks?
opal timber
@wheat hearth I think progetto must be the name of a cheese or a meat cut
Speaking of Progettos, is it just me or did the progetto get slower now?š
thin carbon
Are there vehicle beta testers or something? Iām seeing all these new and weird vehicles that Iāve never seen in either tech tree or shop before.
tulip edge
@thin carbon Yes. There are people that test tanks in the live game before their release.
Recent examples of tanks being tested are the Kranvagn, Centurion 5/1 and T44-85
thin carbon
Ah, I see
I saw something somewhat boxy and ugly and I couldnāt determine if it was either British or French. So I just put a 152mm shell through it lol. Had a weird Ident tag to it too.
shell forum
Referring to the swedish heavy, are they really that fast since i am convinced at least the Emil down T8 can keep up with a medium with ease
raven spade
I just got the Emil literally in wot
And I'm waiting to use it in blitz as well, but will it have the traditional 4 shell or new 3 shell magazine?
tulip edge
@shell forum Well, I do not think we know about the Emil I or Emil II yet.
The Emil 1951 currently has stats that reflect a heavium, but itās subject to change.
Kranvagn had better mobility, but has had its mobility nerfed quite significantly for 7.2. I can show you the exact nerfs for it if you are interested in the specifics.
shell forum
Not for now. Just reliving the PTSD when i fought against one some time earlier this year...
raven spade
@tulip edge the original line is coming, didn't u see in the coming soon section??
@tulip edge I don't think the line will come in 7.2, but they said that it will arrive before Halloween, so I'm expecting it to be 7.3...
tulip edge
@raven spade You misunderstood me.
When I mentioned the Emil I and II, I was talking about how we donāt know about their specific stats yet.
When I talked about the Kranvagn, I was mentioning that it was getting nerfed for 7.2 as a result of testing in this update.
mossy wadi
Is kv220 rare
gentle wasp
yes
mossy wadi
Like i have it but someone said they would take my account for 20 bucks is it worth it@gentle wasp
gentle wasp
no because account sharing is against EULA
mossy wadi
It is
haughty forge
no @mossy wadi u have a lot more rare tanks
gentle wasp
yes it is so it's not a good idea to talk about it, especially not here
gentle wasp
np
haughty forge
he has otsu and 047
mint aurora
Im f2p and got Lucky with the key in the event
gentle wasp
gg
fickle jacinth
Huh. I got Tankenstein certificates x30 from my lockbox key.
Then saw a deal in store and decided to blow 4-5 bucks on lockbox keys since I love Blitz and wanted to see how premium tanks played.
Got the Tankenstein pretty quick from the keys and played it.
Saw some posts on how it's s terrible tank in the forums. Disagree.
It's slow, heavy, and best when pkaying the light gun. Took a Black Prince to pieces in a straight fight and took out 3 tanks and did 3k damage in a losing fight with a non-factor team.
It isn't that hard to pen since I fought against it before, and is slow, but if you stop enemies from flanking, it seems like a great tank.
hushed shadow
Thereās better tanks
fickle jacinth
I know. I just got this one and like it.
restive ravine
Foch is awesome finally, wtf after so much lost, @gentle wasp haha I master it now
tulip edge
If you took out a black prince in a āstraight fightā then thats just user error from the BP.
The Tankenstein has bad DPM, even with its 105mm which is one of the worst at tier 7.
haughty forge
@tulip edge but more armor
hushed shadow
Tankenstein armor can be worse
haughty forge
tankenstein is not best but ok tank
viral lodge
Tankenstein beating a BP is the BP being bad not the tankenstein being a good tank.
tulip edge
Against lower tier tanks, sure.
You have a lower plate which is weak, though it is not extremely large, but you canāt angle the front because your sides are awful and any medium can easily hit them without issue, even for a tier 6.
Equal tier tanks can also start loading gold and shoot your mid plate, or just shoot the tumour on top.
viral lodge
Not even a competition, nearly 2x the DPM.
tulip sail
The rest of the stats also show the bp being a better tank
tulip edge
@viral lodge whats the gold ammo penetration value on the BP again?
viral lodge
Everything besides top speed (ill go check 1 second)
tulip sail
239@tulip edge
gentle wasp
@restive ravine gg man!
viral lodge
251 with cali, but 239 should be enough.
tulip sail
But the bp still has more dpm
tulip edge
239 is more than enough to penetrate the tumour, lower plate and the mid plate
haughty forge
well, u can outtrade most hts
viral lodge
and then you have the super speed and reactive armour consumeables. its a no contest
The sheer DPM difference is enough to decide the victor, everything else is icing on the cake.
kindred wren
Thatās with the big 130mm gun though, the guy who said that he liked the Tankenstein said he used the small one (105 I believe)
viral lodge
dpm is still crap
tulip edge
Yeah.
The 105mm on the Tankenstein is one of the worst 105mms at tier 7 though.
Every other HT with a 105mm has better reload and dispersion values.
viral lodge
Saying the tankenstein is better than the BP is about as wrong as saying the IS-5 is better than the 252.
haughty forge
it is not horrible anyway
kindred wren
Also, the 130mm has the typical 130mm premium AP with increased damage
viral lodge
usable but heavily out performed by a lot of stuff.
haughty forge
peek a boom machine
tulip edge
Only reason I play the Tankenstein is for that sweet 130mm alpha damage.
viral lodge
Besides ^^ the T29 completely outclasses it as well
tulip sail
I just want it bc I'm a collector and it looks cool
restive ravine
@gentle wasp omg wtf happen ?? š„š±
fickle jacinth
Tankenstein beating a BP is the BP being bad not the tankenstein being a good tank.
@viral lodge
No, it might be me actually being decent against 'better' tanks by tracking them and knowing how to blow out module and do damage at the same time.
viral lodge
@fickle jacinth Im not saying you are a bad player, but BP has pretty much every advantage over the tankenstein besides Alpha and top speed. in an equal skill contest a BP is going to win almost every round.
gentle wasp
@restive ravine lol dude you unlocked it
fickle jacinth
@viral lodge
The BP player was good, if I'm honest. We both kept to cover, he was properly sidescraping and not falling for shot bating, etc. Missed a shot at me and landed a few, but I came away with over half my HP intact.
limber sonnet
Plz buff foch 155 armor I canāt bounce
solid gate
Foch 155 is too much op
mint aurora
It's so much fun playing smasher š everyone Has a big respect in the battle
Also when i deal 2-3K dmg in almost every battle... (Not too High, but im Happy with that)
solid gate
Smasher need nerf - _-
mint aurora
No
tulip sail
Or just being put at t8
nocturne tiger
how fast does a Smasher reload (I need to know this for strategy against it)
mint aurora
17.3 i think
solid gate
15sec
haughty forge
14 with rammer, 16 with cali( 2 double food) IIRC
gentle wasp
16.3 without rammer, 15.16 without
nocturne tiger
dang.
gentle wasp
It helps that the gun handling is good for a 152 as well so it feels like it reloads twice as quick as a Kv2
mint aurora
Well tbh i bought kv 2 back 3d Ago and IT was boring, i couldnt even shoot someone..
tulip edge
Thank god I barely ever touch anything below tier 8, avoiding that smasher spam as equal or lower tier
undone yew
which german td line should i grind
solid gate
which german td line should i grind
@undone yew you like frontline TD or camping TD?
tulip edge
SU-152. Fun tank, easier line to grind and gives a better tier ten @solid gate
@undone yew Youāll have an easier and friendlier time with the JG E100 line
sterile lark
are any of these tanks here worth the gold?
low elk
wait for an offer to come
buying it straight up is a bad idea
viral lodge
^
runic imp
Yus š
viral lodge
As far as which
Lowe and T34 are solid.
sterile lark
you mean like these?
low elk
yes
the discounted ones are worth the money
but some may not perfom that well
sterile lark
are any of the discounted ones worth?
low elk
currently i would say no
wait for better offers
i can also recommend you get Krupp 38D if you want an extremely good tier 5 tank to have fun in
or get the K91 that is in stores rn
but wait for tier 8 prems to come
sterile lark
okay thank you and sorry last question: will we be able to get these certificates once again because i got 90 from the grave digger?
low elk
you will have a chance to get the remaining parts for gold later as a 24 hour pop up offer
sterile lark
oh okay, do you know how expensive that will be?
low elk
should be around 2500 gold for you
or even 2k gold
sterile lark
so much oof. Should I buy it?
low elk
gravedigger is a subpar tank
a fun tank in tier 6 and 7
but horrible in tier 8
sterile lark
hm okay thx. What are some good tier 7 light tanks
low elk
Type 62, M41B, LTTB, and the 13 57 for fun
kind bluff
T71 is decent now
SP1 C is also top tier if u can handle it
low elk
yeah but those tanks need skill
i would recommend SP1C even before the buff if it didnt take skill
the tiny little bugger is so fun
T71 i still have yet to try
but looking at it and its stats ik ill like the tank
and its a good tank as well
3 seconds for 480
basically a mobile chi ri or FL10
sterile lark
is maus strong?
low elk
Maus is the strongest and easiest heavy to play rn
other than the IS4
but IS4 has a horrid grind
sterile lark
do you have some other tank recommendations for me to grind to? I want to go for a new tank but i dont know which are the good/ fun ones. Doesnt matter if heavy/ light or whatever
low elk
Jpanzer E100 line is pretty easy to grind rn with the Jpanther, and the Jtiger
E100 line is also pretty easy but it gets hard in tier 10 as E100 is one of the hardest heavies to run
the Grille 15 line is extremely easy but the grille 15 sucks for any new player
Maus is great to grind for and is extremely good
T57 heavy tank is great for new players but you need to grind lights first, and then instantly switch between light to clipper heavies
and IS4
IS4 is broken but the grind is horrible
stuck plank
How can i get pop up for remaining parts of gravedigger ? Me too i have 90 parts for getting the gravedigger
low elk
Pop Up comes in around a month or 2 after the first sale of the parts
woven fjord
lol
elfin marten
Is tankenstein better than wz blaze?
low elk
Tankenstien is a heavy and blaze is a TD
tacit orbit
You're comparing quite different tanks.
viral lodge
I mean arent both regarded as sub par tanks?
elfin marten
I mean, which is better though? If they were in offers? Like bundles?
Other question I have: which of the smasher lockbox part of certificates for the tanks is better?
hollow notch
Tankenstein is an off brand smasher
low elk
tankenstien needs a reload buff
chop off 1.5 seconds on the B13-S2 and 0.75 seconds off the T5E1 gun
fickle jacinth
currently i would say no
wait for better offers
i can also recommend you get Krupp 38D if you want an extremely good tier 5 tank to have fun in
or get the K91 that is in stores rn
but wait for tier 8 prems to come
@low elk
Yes.
The Krupp is amazing. Just got one yesterday and love it.
tawdry mica
Anybody feel like the tankenstien is OP? I have it and find myself bouncing tons of damage and crushing almost anything in sight.
low elk
its not op
its a decent tank
what gun are you running
low elk
hmm
130mm has worse armor
its still a tiger P hull which is pretty strong
and you dont see the tankenstien that often
sterile lark
lol I have the tankenstein as well but people always hit me
tawdry mica
Side scraping is an effective way to play it I found
sterile lark
whats that?
tawdry mica
Hugging a corner of a building and angling you side armor to an adequate angle
tulip edge
The armour has a lot of weakspots.
Tier 6 tanks can easily penetrate your side armour and your frontal lower plate.
Tier 7s can start loading gold and penetrate your mid plate, you also have the tumour on top.
You generally donāt want to be sidescraping in a tankenstein though.
elfin marten
Is the armor thickness on the tankenstein turret the same as the kv4 turret?
tawdry mica
Iām not actually too sure on that one
I wouldnāt bet on it but might be the same
elfin marten
Ok, I feel like I might get the tankenstein b4 the gravedigger if I open more lockboxes
tulip edge
@elfin marten The Tankenstein tumour on the turret is weaker than the KV-4.
Also, I believe the areas around the gun mantlet are weaker than the KV-4.
elfin marten
Good to know, since the turrets look the same
tulip edge
The KV-4 is a tier higher, so itās logical that it has higher armour values on the turret
hollow notch
You know what is sad? The tankenstein has a worse reload than the smasher.
lyric copper
152mm somehow has faster reload than a 130mm
elfin marten
Compare the su152 152mm gun and smashers gun.... su152 has better reload but worse pen
Longest Soviet heavy tank ever designed at 14 meters. Second picture is the t42 super heavy tank compared to maus at 10.2 meters...
KV-VI was never the longest tank because itās a fake tank. The KV-6 is a real tank; a KV-1 with a flame thrower. This is just a thing I had to say...
solid gate
how long will the K-91 be in stores for??
tulip sail
If you click on it and scroll down it'll tell ya
solid gate
Does anyone know how to export 3D models from the game?
runic imp
90mm of armor lmao
storm apex
How do I get XP in the Tier V Leopard.
I do SO much spotting and about 500-1000 damage but still get teeny amounts of XP
pls send help
solid gate
Play higher tier.
Low tier low XP
storm apex
How do I get XP in the Tier V Leopard.
I do SO much spotting and about 500-1000 damage but still get teeny amounts of XP
pls send help
solid gate
Play higher tier.
Low tier low XP
karmic nymph
You win. Thatās how you get more xp
stray cedar
Best game yet in progetto. I think it's a pretty good tank but it requires a bit of luck and a lot of practice. Still working on it but i enjoy the tank. Still working on spading it. I think it could use better dispersion on the move or a bit more PTW ratio cause its kinda phat for something w no armor.
candid arch
Fun fact: Cromwell B can shoot itās own ass
zealous anchor
Interesting
sharp spindle
I'm going to be getting one of the T9s in store, but I can't decide between the K-91 and T 55A. Which is better in performance, at credit and xp making, etc?
restive epoch
@sharp spindle it's ur own playstyle but the k91 has insane dpm for a heavy
The most of tier 9 heavys
sharp spindle
They both have nearly the exact same DPM, but their playstyles are different. Which is the best overall?
haughty forge
@sharp spindle K91
sharp spindle
Alright.
knotty charm
tfw the mm hates u š¤”
solid gate
@stray cedar nice game but 4k dmg works to on t7
limber sonnet
French autoloaders needs fv4005ās consumables
Like sheāll reload boost or improved engine power boost
And reticle calibration
inland osprey
Why do I feel like the Progetto 65 isn't much of an improvement over the Standard B apart from the super angled upper glacis and slightly more dpm?
limber sonnet
Because standard b has 105 HE penetration and it is faster
Ant also standard has better camouflages values
inland osprey
That's really sad for a tier 10
nocturne tiger
I love vk 30.01 p
eternal salmon
#nerfsmasher
vivid shoal
The progetto is like the grille
lyric oriole
No it's not
vivid shoal
The t9s are insane but the t10 r worse or not that much better
lyric oriole
Standard B got a major DPM nerf, it's really not that common to see anymore.
fleet wolf
Should I free xp the rest of the kv4? Im at 50k xp with it but I have 200k free xp? Iām definitely going to be using some free xp on the st-1 because Iāve heard itās awful stock so idk
sharp siren
Save for st I
lyric oriole
Free EXP the top gun on KV-4
fleet wolf
I have the top modules other than the tracks but itās honestly just hard to get much xp with because I feel like it just has sorta bad dpm and itās too slow
tulip edge
@fleet wolf Donāt waste the free XP on the tracks then. Youāre going to want all of it for the ST-I
fleet wolf
I was gonna use it to get the sti because the KV4 grind Has been so awful.
thick trout
In general never free XP a whole tank unless you are rich with free XP. It is significantly easier to grind using a maxed tank even if it is awful than it is to grind a stock tank.
fleet wolf
Iām gonna be needing a lot of platoon games then because I keep getting circled because meds have their own plan. Learning to angle the tank better will also help tho lol
narrow rampart
Should I free xp the rest of the kv4? Im at 50k xp with it but I have 200k free xp?
@fleet wolf 200k free XP sounds like a lot, but it really isn't in tier IX
Save it, use boosters etc in the fun modes - Uprising will return in 7.2 - and that mode gives you tons of XP because of the longer battles and massive damage
mental breach
What do I upgrade first for the t54?
gentle wasp
turret and gun
mental breach
Thanks
pliant lodge
@mental breach, if you play frontline in T-54 go for T-62A gun, if you like to move around and flank and go on a brawld go for Obj 140 gun.
mental breach
Got it
fleet wolf
@narrow rampart around when is 7.2 gonna come out?
narrow rampart
@narrow rampart around when is 7.2 gonna come out?
@fleet wolf no official exact date yet. Keep an eye out on the news
solid gate
5% is to high of a drop rate for the smasher :/
dull ether
Too high?! What you did have recently?!
tawny furnace
Lol I got smasher on my 5th lockbox
solid gate
what upgrades should i put on my kv2
elfin marten
I still have that scorpion g lockbox from a couple updates ago, anyone else have it?
hushed shadow
Nah it got removed for me
elfin marten
Ok, if smasher was a tier 8, would it still be broken?
tulip edge
@solid gate If youāre talking modules, go 152mm gun if you want a slot machine that can sometimes be fun.
Use the 107mm if you want something more consistent and reliable.
If youāre talking provisions, Iād run the 10% + 3% crew mastery boost and the 10% engine boost.
If youāre talking equipment, run a gun rammer, gun laying driving, the toolbox, improved assembly, optics as general things.
@elfin marten If the penetration values stayed the same, and also the armour, I wouldnāt think so.
elfin marten
Ok, but should they?
keen escarp
Bro i am so ready to max out the battle pass
solid gate
@tulip edge alright thanks
elfin marten
Someone tell me what this tank looks like...
sage hare
elfin marten
What if I told u there are 5 road wheels on each side
cinder briar
I have no clue it looks like a broke mans sp 1 c
elfin marten
M41 HMC artillery
azure plover
recommended equipment for T-54?
gentle wasp
CS, EGLD, vstab
Defense, hp, toolbox
Optics, accelerator, CDS
@azure plover
azure plover
aight thx
stray cedar
What's a good tank to grind silver in?
Did 2.7k with 3 kills in the progetto 65 firing all ap and 1 he. NO premium and survived but lost 3k credits. Not much at all but still, I don't think I should loose credits for a decent game like that one.
gentle wasp
Tier 10 is terrible for making credits. Youāll be fortunate not to lose silver.
stray cedar
Oof. That makes no sense at all. Why would you spend 6 mill average on a tank just to loose even more? Not to mention spading the tank? Shouldn't there be some reward or incentives to play T10???? Shouldn't T10 make credit grinding more of an after thought???
kindred wren
It's probably the most balanced and competitive tier
stray cedar
Alr. Cool. That's great. Other then that though??? Shouldn't getting a teir 10 be an achievement?? I feel like getting one should make the other grinds more bearable.
gentle wasp
Getting to t10 is an achievement, you get to play in the most balanced and competitive tier
lyric oriole
Dude, the game has made it sooooo much easier since I started and yet people are never happy with the difficulty. Getting one is like a premium with preferential matchmaking and in about 95% of cases already elite status so you can directly convert any EXP on it into free EXP.
stray cedar
For gold. =/
lyric oriole
Same with premiums
stray cedar
Ill just seal club in the Maus, E100, or Progetto.
lyric oriole
I wouldn't call Progetto a tier 10 seal clubber
stray cedar
I have sheri but suck w it. I enjoy the progetto alot. It's hard to use but when used right (like any other tank) it clubs.
lyric oriole
That's not how that works but ok
stray cedar
Why don't i see anyone running the 113? That things stats make it look like a clubber.
Is the the turrent traverse?
lyric oriole
Because 113 doesn't survive well+ APCR as primary ammo + it's not a good pub tank, but good in Comp
lyric oriole
It's worth grinding out if you plan on joining the competitive scene
stray cedar
Whats comp like? I'd imagine it's slower paced, more based on map control, and team composition.
I enjoy competive FPS. Never thought about WoTB comp tho lmao.
lyric oriole
I don't follow it too much myself, I'm more of a casual player, but it's all about positioning, mobility, and survivability for the most part.
Posit1ve_ is more involved so he can give you more information on Comp than I can
elfin marten
I was in a battle with him on the same team, we won... EXP and Pershing for life!
low elk
all the unicum pro clans sealclubbing to get aces
and 5.5 was supposed to stop sealclubbing
delicate barn
is the bat chat fun/ worth grinding for? Or should I try to get the new british line? Or maybe continue with the T54 ltwt?
im looking for a fun to grind on light tank line with a good tier 10
gentle wasp
Ltwt line fits that description best
orchid nymph
continue with the ltwt if your a new player. the british line is good but go with the batchat if you want a challenge
delicate barn
alright,im not exactly new since I've been playing for 4 years now but I haven't played in a very long time
hollow notch
Could someone please explain to me how these failed to pen? They both were with apcr and caused track damage. I get that I can't pen where the spaced armor is, but if I am damaging the tracks, I am clearly shooting below it. If someone could give me advice on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
delicate barn
rng
fast compass
Ngl 252u sides have trolled me the most
gentle wasp
Look at the shot in wotinspector
hollow notch
This sort of garbage happens consistently
I am a fairly experienced player, but this still consistantly kills me
delicate barn
never happened to me, but if im being honest all wargaming games are very rng based and plus the fact that the 252's armor is very angled and spaced makes it incredibly troll
and by the looks of it you're playing with a derp gun so it's even more of a pain
hollow notch
Just an is3d
delicate barn
well that's just bad rng, happens to everyone
hollow notch
75% of my shots only at 252u side armor is bad rng?
@gentle wasp where do you aim for when dealing with the sides of 252s
gentle wasp
Pretty much right where you shot, between the tracks and that more protruding side armor
hollow notch
:/
delicate barn
Is the wz121 fun?I know it's very good since I have the t34 2 and I enjoy it alot but should I try to keep going with that line instead of a light line?
gentle wasp
121 is very enjoyable and is arguably the best med to combat the heavy meta
delicate barn
I like going all out in the enemy line when I see an opportunity, is it good for doing that?
gentle wasp
I like to be aggressive in it yes
delicate barn
alright thanks
delicate barn
So my final choices are: British lights, wz 121, t54 ltwt or foch 155, which should I take? I want a good, fun line to grind on, and also tanks that have good mobility and high damage gun that can also be aggressive.
with decent armor
gentle wasp
Ltwt line if you still feel rusty. I would say 121 but itās a challenge
delicate barn
Im still pretty good but I only have good games when I actually try, which isn't often since I just play to have fun
gentle wasp
Lol thatās fair. I found the 62a line, especially the light branch, extremely enjoyable
delicate barn
ight, thanks again for the info
gentle wasp
No problem man
keen escarp
I am actually on Wz 121 grind
I have Wz 120 but the xp and stuff is costy imma just stick with the 280 cause it ok
delicate barn
I tbh might go for the British lights since im looking for something new and fun
gentle wasp
Itās a really good line and the CR is broken, but the t10 seems tough
quasi jungle
Hi
gentle wasp
Hello
keen escarp
Hi
sharp gale
Gonna be honest. Not much about the atgm mechanics have changed and now that the hype is over I barely see them and complaints are down by a very considerable margin
I think people just were excited for a new mechanic and spammed it so it got annoying. Now people donāt find it nearly as bad.. hmmm
solid gate
@sharp gale hmmm
sharp gale
What I mean is that 90% of the conversation in general blitz discussion was complaints about the mechanic. Yes people still dislike it overall but not to the point where it dominates every single chat
nocturne tiger
what's the best gun for VK 30.01 P
gentle wasp
88
thick temple
Excuse me what is with this
gentle wasp
@sharp gale well yea because eventually it gets old saying the same thing over and over. same thing has happened with the CR, it hasn't been nerfed, and yet there isn't the same outrage that there was upon release.
And yea, all you have to do is look at the survey
nocturne tiger
Bought KV 1s and suffering from horrible stock gun, any advice
onyx venture
Buy the next gunš§
But really idk
nocturne tiger
time to suffer till I get enough exp I guess
hollow quiver
are you grinding for kv2 afterwards?
onyx venture
Do people just not have free xp now adays before they get to the next tanks, I literally just free xp everything when I get a new tank
strange thicket
yeah basically
but you need to stack up lotta free xp before you start fooling with it
solid gate
Is it worth it to grind for the wz-131g-ft?
hollow moth
@solid gate depends, it's basically an Obj 268 with an actual good armor
But the side armor is tottaly poor, frontal armor can be easily penetrated by Prammo or on the weak spot. Agility will be a problem too.
There isn't much advantages to go for this tank instead of 268, as like you see here
solid gate
I meant like the tier 6 not some higher tier
tulip edge
Lol thatās fair. I found the 62a line, especially the light branch, extremely enjoyable
@gentle wasp MT-25 is the best, love that tank.
solid gate
@thick temple press the button and you gonna have the choice enter normal price and the rƩduction price
thick temple
Ighty
whole rose
M4A3/M26
M36B1/B2
T78 existed in wot pc
ST-II i mean we already got double barreled tank in wot blitz so why not? whahaaha
limber sonnet
Yes ST-II thƩ tech tree of next year
solid gate
Can we have legendary camos in all tier 5 tanks
candid arch
Or maybe legendary camos for more than just even numbered tiers. Only two tier IX have a legendary camo, and a handful of 7s and 5s
whole rose
how about Tiger II legendary attachment
sterile lark
is this worth?
rotund palm
Is FV4005 better than FV 183?
kindred wren
If you play it well, yes. If you play it poorly, no
solid gate
Hmm.. reallg want legendary camos in tier 5 since the tanks in that line are used in wars like crusader,m4,t34,and the pz.IV g the camo will be the ones used in war
azure creek
not a broken or op tanks, but both are good. type 59 little bit lack of pen, wg could buff pen by 5-7mm of each shell type
solid gate
Just use calibrated
azure creek
Have you ever heard about dpm ?
solid gate
Rations
brave axle
Have the type 59 ever been nerf-ed before ? or i'm wrong ?
hushed shadow
I donāt think so. The other tier 8s just got stronger
azure creek
rations help a lil bit, but its nothing like we all know.
hollow belfry
Just researched the Pak 43 L/71 on my Nashorn and it works like a charm. Been getting good results lately by playing it close-mid range and simply burning down reds with the dpm
tulip edge
@brave axle No, itās just been powercrept a little bit
brave axle
cuz i got bored of grinding with pre HT and i have 0 pre MT, wonder if i should buy type 59 or not ?
regal mist
If u like Russian mediums with gun depression then sure
mint aurora
No chance for my Team do deal some more damage šexcept smasher
azure creek
[Op tanks getting highest dmg]
still hill
Balanced š
mint aurora
Agreed
visual hatch
Reloaded, how many zeros are after that 1 in ur pfp?
worn fable
Anyone from asia server knows it impossible š
still hill
This thing happen when i was on vaccation in singapore so i play this game wih the wifi from hotel and this thing happens š. I think the hotel use 5G @visual hatch š
worn fable
Ok maybe WG server building are next from ur hotel. You can go there and make some tweak to nerf smasher š
still hill
Lol XD
candid cairn
Imagine if the obj 279e was in blitz...
sharp siren
Imagine if the obj 279e was in blitz...
It wouldnāt be a tech tree tank 99%
delicate barn
If the 279e was in blitz it would be even more of a disaster than the atgms
it's way too overpowered and if it were added to the game only vehicles with amazing pen like the 268 will be able to pen it's front
candid cairn
I know, but just imagine. But the thing is, itās no sturmtiger. Those tanks make ATGMs look weak and shouldnāt even be compared.
delicate barn
Are there any good light tank lines that are fun?
gentle wasp
Vickers line are the best lights right now
delicate barn
I dont exactly want the best I want the most fun
gentle wasp
Well they are pretty fun, spamming high pen HE at stuff is enjoyable
fast compass
Honestly all lights are fun. Well to me atleast. But yeah vickers is the strongest light line atm
gentle wasp
You might be one of those terrible people who think itās fun to abuse non-LOS attacks but I wonāt condone that at all
delicate barn
what does LOS even mean
gentle wasp
Line of sight
@hushed shadow that works too lol
hushed shadow
Sigh
fast compass
I do play the sherry and occasionally use missiles. But i actually don't remember the last time i used missiles outside of training rooms
delicate barn
I feel like a boomer wot blitz style
hushed shadow
Well it isnāt a common topic other than in the ATGM discussions.
gentle wasp
Thatās good, keep the atgm toxicity contained there
delicate barn
I feel like the E50M is really my play style, but I don't think its fast enough for my liking
I really enjoy fast tanks that can be aggressive and ram
gentle wasp
50 M is the best ramming tank out there by far. Maybe a Foch would be the next best fit for you at t10
fast compass
263 is also great at being super aggressive and ramming. But it isn't in the greatest of place in terms of balance. Still workable though
solid gate
Smasher is to strong
Bruh is this bt-7 with rocketlauncher xD
Pls add the bt-42 xD
delicate barn
bruh
delicate barn
needs nerf
haughty forge
TSAR
solid gate
delicate barn
lmao
solid gate
delicate barn
what is taht supposed to be
delicate barn
279e
haughty forge
haughty forge
Ratte or wut
haughty forge
Bob semple
solid gate
Yes, they do. They found the blueprints. They donāt know exacly how it would look like
Lol, I mean. It is literally a tractor
Thereās multiple official ratte designs
haughty forge
Armored* Tractor
viral lodge
Goliath mine is fun to use in CoH.
solid gate
This was an official scale model design for it
Itās one of the multiple official designs for the ratte
Yeah, the tracks would probaly cut the side cannons bc they go deep
How we know itās real then?
Where is it from then
Thereās a few other mock ups Im trying to find i got it from long ago in Tank Encyclopedia
1% battary, bye
haughty forge
They planned to build ratte , but project was cancelled
viral lodge
For obvious reasons.
gentle wasp
There were blueprints and prototypes
solid gate
Mustage guy wanted it, but some assistant or somthing denied it
jolly fjord
the at15 is bad to earn credits, the at15 demands a lot from the player, even with high dpm it is difficult, worse if someone flanks, the team does not come to help it may be that there are two from the other team, one on you and another afk, your six companions go to afk, seldom does anyone come to help (this already comes into another question)
spare sand
Are the type 59 en the 59 patton worth it in your opinions? Why is it or why not?
gentle wasp
@spare sand I would say no, both are pretty mediocre. I would take a Panther II over the Patton, plus one is free. The Type is powercrept and not that relevant anymore.
keen escarp
Who got the Krupp
gentle wasp
I've been considering it
mighty junco
It has good armor.
gentle wasp
that upper plate is nasty, yea
mighty junco
Mini E50M
solid gate
is the is7 ammorack gonna get moved somewhere else im tryna get it as my first tier x but im kinda scared to get it because people keep saying that the ammorack is in the front and thats why i shouldnt get it
mighty junco
Doubt they will move it.
wise moth
@solid gate Just run protective kit provision and Defense System equipment. Haven't been catastrophically racked in the IS-7 since
solid gate
alright
keen escarp
I got the krupp never battled yet tryna get blaze.
sterile lark
which one is better?
low elk
ferdi for heavy and less experinced players
jpanther 2 for med and more experinced players
sterile lark
whats med?
gentle wasp
medium. It plays more of a medium role in battle
hollow notch
Mediocre
sterile lark
okay thanks
low elk
delicate barn
true
plucky summit
nerf Matilda
gentle wasp
plucky summit
the gun
keen escarp
I be slapin that 640 avg on ppl wit the Wz 113G FT
plucky summit
KV-2, SU-152, Smasher, ISU-152, Rhm Borsig Waffentrager, Obj. 704, T30, T95, WZ-111G FT, WT auf Pz. IV, Obj. 268, Grille 15, E100, VK 72.01 K, T110E3, and T110E4 can relate
Also WZ-113G FT doesn't have main hull armor on the middle front plate
And WZ-111G FT doesn't have main hull armor through the side right below the rear deck
keen escarp
@plucky summit those are all 640 avg
arctic basalt
@plucky summit you forgot Vindicator UM
keen escarp
Hes also missing the Foch 155
plucky summit
@keen escarp that's my point, it seemed to me like 640 was something special to you, but whatevs
@arctic basalt you got me, I already forgot E100 and VK 72 and had em through an edit, but Vindi slipped by, it's not a true 152mm with 900 HE, and maybe other tanks have special cases with HE too, whatevs
solid gate
I hear the tier 8 of the 72 line is a stinker
plucky summit
VK A is a heavium, nobody treats it like one nowadays, VK B is outshined by E75 because it's too specialized in comparison
keen escarp
@plucky summit i am saying that i can get good dmg with that tank
plucky summit
No you just said you slap 640, so I just felt that it was something special to you :p
barren sand
The Is7 is such a dogshit tank
the dispersion and gun in general sucks asscheeks and the turret takes 6 years to make 1 full rotation
solid gate
Why is my t34-2g ft draining credits
plucky summit
@barren sand itās not that bad, IS-4 is more competitive but IS-7 will perform great in pubs if you use it correctly
Also turret rotation isnāt that necessary unless you flank everyone you see
barren sand
The disperision is unberable. When I aim, the shot almost always goes wide. This causes it to either bounce/miss entierly or just hit a part where it cannot penetrate.
barren sand
wdym
plucky summit
Are you super aggressive? How defensive do you play on maps that offer cover?
plucky summit
I can show you da wayz
It takes pretty special positioning, and I know a guy who can help you do deadly facehugs
barren sand
the ass dispersion just cost me another game
plucky summit
Send me the replay
south vale
Kid wonāt stop whining instead of learning how to play, I loved the IS-7, even with the IS-4 being marginally better competition wise
orchid nymph
yeah. the is7 is powercreeped but it still stomps
keen escarp
Oop.
dreamy tundra
Sup my people
keen escarp
Hey @dreamy tundra
broken turtle
need help for this fully stock, what i should go first?
hushed shadow
Iād get the gun. I havenāt tried the stock turret for some time but it used to be a fairly popular choice for people before the top turret was buffed. I donāt prefer getting engines because Iād prefer to be able to pen and do dmg than being able to go faster.
haughty forge
@broken turtle get 75% crew and gun
keen escarp
get gun and turret
sterile lark
is there a way to farm coins very fast and how do you have to play chafee?
hollow belfry
Like a light tank.
limber sonnet
What is the best tank to earn credits?
fast compass
Any tier 8 premium which you will enjoy playing
sterile lark
whats the difference between premium and these blue tanks? do they both bring the same amount of credits?
hushed shadow
The collector tanks can be sold for gold. Premium tanks sell for credits. I think collector tanks were supposed to be ābalanceable tanksā or tanks WG would nerf as often as they would tech tree tanks. Because they supposedly didnāt like nerfing premiums. But well they havenāt really nerfed collectors that much so itās kinda the same as a premium imo
still hill
When a i grind the stock kv 4 i grind the turret and gun first
solid gate
Bruh, donāt
Itās turning speed is the worst
And the stock turret is troll anyways. The gun is fine to
candid arch
Stock KV-3 turret and gun is funny as hell
It works too. Same turret traverse, better reload, same pen as top gun (calibrated for stock, gun rammer for top)
I managed a 7-8 game with top damage using stock. We still lost but it worked
tulip edge
@sterile lark If youāre F2P, itās about finding the tech tree tank with high credit coefficient. Coincidentally, your chaffee has one of the best credit coefficients out of any tier 6 tech tree tank.
@limber sonnet It depends, are you F2P?
limber sonnet
Yes I am F2P
I have 4 t10 and I already have t26e4 I am searching the best premium credit coefficient
At t8 I have 2600 gold and if I sell my collector tanks I will have 5500 gold
delicate barn
how, I've been playing for so much time and I have like 1 tier 9 and 30 gold
pliant lodge
@tulip edge VK 28 is also an option
tulip edge
Well the T26E4 does have high credit coefficient and can make credits, but it is a pretty mediocre tank.
Your next best bet for tier 8 credit making would be the lowe. It has a high credit coefficient but also has low repair costs, so its very good for credit making. The tank is solid but it isnāt very strong or anything like that.
My best advice for you is to save up your gold and continue to watch ads, and wait for an offer to come around.
@limber sonnet
I can advise you on other premiums and also tech tree tanks if interested, but lowe is one of your main ones here
pliant lodge
@delicate barn if you log into your account on phone you can watch 5 ads which eatch gives you 10 gold. So every day you can make 50 gold. And every year you can make 18k gold +
delicate barn
I know you can do that, but im not going to log on everyday for ads
pliant lodge
@delicate barn then there is little way you'll get free gold except for events.
The best way to get a tier X fast is to grind all day long. It's pain sometimes but that's how it works. If you don't set yourself that goal you'll never make it.
delicate barn
I've set myself that goal for way too many times, now im stuck with over 6 tier 8 tanks that I don't know what to do with
pliant lodge
Heh~ A few weeks ago I just shaked my head and said "I'm goign to get Maus no matter what" I already stoped at VK 100 P. So took me less than one week to get MƤuschen (stock) to Maus.
If you're focusing on too many things things will grind to a complete stop. The best way is to sell the tanks you don't really prioritise allot and focus on the tanks you really want. You can always come back to buy those tanks back.
delicate barn
Im constantly in search of tanks that fit my play style: fast and aggressive, and that's what's stopping me
pliant lodge
Can I see your tanks?
delicate barn
I got very, very poor from switching lines all the time, but atm im going for the E50M
pliant lodge
Ouch, that's a hard line. Especially at Panther and Panther II
vivid shoal
im going for leo 1 grille fv4005
hushed shadow
The panther and panther 2 got buffs recently. Theyāre not so bad now
delicate barn
I heard they made the Panthers armor op and they buffed the panther ll armor aswell
pliant lodge
@delicate barn well. Panther II is easy to pen ngl. It's slow like a heavy and E50M is big. And the lower palte is huge and easy to pen no matter how well angled
sterile lark
if I play jpanther II I have to hide somewhere and shoot enemies from there right?
pliant lodge
@sterile lark yeah try to save your HP in JP II. Best option. And always go with your team.
delicate barn
@pliant lodge for me armor doesn't matter too much as long as I can ram with it and get occasional bounces
pliant lodge
Well this is Blitz. You won't do that often ._. @delicate barn
delicate barn
Speed is something really important for me
pliant lodge
Then play Progretto, Vicker or T-62A ? (or Obj 140)
tulip edge
Panther is a very good tank.
Panther II is still solid
pliant lodge
Panther II is not solid ._. I played it now and sold it. It didn't really help because you're a massive tank. Easy to hit and not that fast. It's a FAT tank with no sidearmor.
tulip edge
@sterile lark Pretty much. You donāt have much HP and your armour will likely not save you. Itās all about using the mobility and repositioning frequently
delicate barn
I already have the t54 ltwt, the Cromwell and the tier 6 for the progetto, but im really looking for a solid med that can be aggressive and ram other meds
pliant lodge
Why would you...ram? Then you'll most likely die because when you rush someone you'll most likely die in the presses
delicate barn
For me speed is very fun and part of my play style, and speed is key for ramming and I often do that too much on lightly armored tanks
pliant lodge
I only ram tanks in E50M when I'm 100% sure I got my team and that the tank I'm focusing isn't backed up by enemy tanks.
You should play Maus then lol. Gently tap and E100 loses 150 HP while you lose nothing.
I rarely ram in E50M as it's a heavy/medium. It's made to rush to a position and hold it with your reliable armor
delicate barn
yeah, but I barely got the stock 30p and it's already too slow for my liking
Right now I have two lines I know I might like: E50M or WZ121
pliant lodge
Do what you want. But both lines are not "noob-friendly"
delicate barn
not exactly a noob, been playing for 4 years now
pliant lodge
I've seen noobs from 2014 ._.
tulip edge
You might like some heaviums, depends how much āspeedā you are looking for
delicate barn
Im looking for that, speedy heaviums
pliant lodge
IS-4? E100? They are both fast enough.
delicate barn
The IS family is fast, but the KV family is painfully slow at stock and the IS7 isn't all that great
pliant lodge
IS-4 is good tank
delicate barn
Im probably being very picky, but I want to make the right choice since im already incredibly poor
pliant lodge
Just go for a tank that you think is good
delicate barn
I'll try, since I normally get distracted by another line
Thanks for the info and advice tho
tulip edge
You might enjoy the E5, especially since it gets the special speed consumable. Allows you to be very aggressive, and itās more comfortable with its gun depression.
Fv215b might be your taste but it can be awkward having a rear mounted turret and poor gun depression, but the tank is very good at bullying mediums and has the mobility.
Chieftain MK6 is always a good option if youāre willing to spend money.
pliant lodge
š @tulip edge couldn't be better
delicate barn
Ight, I'll check those tanks out, thanks alot for the advice
tulip edge
No problem dude
haughty forge
@pliant lodge Panther 2 is still reliable
hollow belfry
Itās more than reliable imo
pliant lodge
I hate it :*
arctic basalt
panther ii is not the best i have it currently
haughty forge
It is really good , agree with @hollow belfry
delicate barn
Depends on your play style
haughty forge
@arctic basalt it is a beast , it has its own playstyle , discussion abt panther 2 ppl?
tulip edge
Panther II is still a solid tank. Itās not amazing, but itās fine. Panther I is the real beauty though, love that tank, even before it was buffed
arctic basalt
panther I is very good
delicate barn
Im really hoping the panther l will have the invisibility ability in the next uprising
arctic basalt
very good dpm, armor, and penetration for its class
delicate barn
Does it have good mobility?
arctic basalt
yeah but gun depression is only 6 degrees
hollow belfry
The Pantherās mobility is pretty decent seeing how armored it is.
haughty forge
I luv this cat 2
delicate barn
How fast can the line go? Like what's the average speed for the whole line (panther l - E 50 M)
Im at the vk 30 d and the mobility is pretty decent for a 76% crew
haughty forge
@delicate barn good enough , but panther 2 is slowest and not rly good terrain resistance IIRC
delicate barn
Alright, so basically you need to find a good position from the beginning?
tulip edge
All the tanks can do 50.
The issue is that some of them are āsluggishā i.e their power to weight is not great.
Panther II has the worst with a P/W of around 14.
E 50 M has a P/W of around 22
delicate barn
is that good for the E50M?
haughty forge
Ya , Panther 2 is slowest
tulip edge
Yes, its why it has the ability to effectively ram. It can build up momentum effectively
hollow belfry
The Panther II has about 14/15 hp/tons but 0,8 ground resistances @tulip edge
delicate barn
If uprising comes soon im definitely keeping the panther l, since last uprising all tier 6-8 tanks were terrified of it
Including me
hollow belfry
Me running a Panther toon with a very good friend was pure devastation last time mad games were around
tulip edge
To give you an idea, @delicate barn the 14 P/W of the Panther II is what you would see on your heaviums like your Mk6 or Caernarvon
delicate barn
Oh, so basically the panther ll is a medeavy or whatever it's called?
hollow belfry
@tulip edge 14 hp/tons? Really?
delicate barn
.39 more hp/t can't do much for a big vehicle like the panther ll
haughty forge
Terrain resistance sux , das why it gets slowed down so much
hollow belfry
0.8 terrain resistances arenāt even bad.
tulip edge
@hollow belfry Yes, I am going off the base
delicate barn
I heard the foch 155 accelerates VERY quickly and goes up to 50kmh
They should make the E50M line have better acceleration, that way it would be even more of a deadly rammer
haughty forge
š¦§
delicate barn
And also it would make it so that the panther ll would have a better chance at getting places
fast compass
Foch is one of the fastest tds in tier 10. And also my favourite tank. It is a pretty nice tank
delicate barn
Yeah, only thing that bothers me about it is the fact that it has no turret and can get HE'ed in the butt and sides very easily
viral lodge
E 50 M line doesnāt really need buffs, itās just not great rn cause the heavies all got that HP buff
delicate barn
Still can be dangerous to other meds
viral lodge
Horribly dangerous
tulip edge
@delicate barn Yeah, Foch has the mobility but also has armour to pull off bounces. Just never show the sides
fast compass
Scratch that. Foch is the fastest td in tier 10. Excluding 4005 with maf ganes consumables
delicate barn
I'd say the best all round med is the 121, since it has the mobility to counter meds, alpha and armor to counter heavies, and the accuracy to counter lights/ TD's
fast compass
Yeah foch is bully if played right. Hide the lowerplate, wiggle and don't face off against high pen tanks like 268.
Can't say much about 121 since i haven't played it but it is a also a solid tank atm
delicate barn
The foch is getting more and more weak since they added the Japanese TD's, that have even more pen than the 268
haughty forge
It is not
delicate barn
It's getting more vulnerable
haughty forge
It is fine as it is
pliant lodge
Ultimate SU-100Y seal clubber
delicate barn
You're lucky you have premiums
pliant lodge
It's not even my account lmao
delicate barn
Bruh
hollow belfry
1076 average damage in a 100Y is ok at best. especially after 12k battles in it.
restive mortar
Somebody anybody tell me what the hell u gotta do to win in the m103 and the obj104 literally every single game is lop sided and im on a team full of 43%erd
Every single match
delicate barn
bad luck
next solstice
Ammoracked a full hp IS7 today
lyric oriole
That happens every other battle
next solstice
ik the next match I saw a IS7 get ammoracked by a deathstar
keen escarp
Progetto is better than BC
Lol guys i ammo racked a Obj 704 with a kpf only 8 hours ago
still hill
@next solstice Dont buy is 7 Xd
pliant lodge
Please buff the Chi-Ri premium AP pen. It's only 180mm. For gold?! That's just stupid.
hollow belfry
I run CS on mine
haughty forge
But wut is the point of not running Cs on autoloaders , even with cs it is not dat good
hollow belfry
The pen wasn't an issue for me. With good aim I could get all three shots in a Tiger II's cupola.
haughty forge
It only has 184mm of pen with prammo , ya it sux
pliant lodge
184mm preium on any tier 7 tank is just WRONG
hollow belfry
*186
194 with CS. Although I'm used to guns with high penetration and good accuracy, I really liked the Chi-Ri.
pliant lodge
194mm gold pen is still trash for a med
haughty forge
Little bit pen buff would not make it op anyway
gentle wasp
it has the special AP, why doesn't it get higher alpha
haughty forge
In fact it can be Derped from front
hollow belfry
The Chi-Ri was actually my second favourite med in this line, after the STB-1. Clipping people for 450_500 dmg in 2 seconds before disappearing was fun. It racks damage like a charm.
haughty forge
And little bit of prem pen would not hurt , since prem ammo also lowers dmp
pliant lodge
Chi-Ri is only good because of that autoloader. And the rest is just bad.
haughty forge
Ya
hollow belfry
Other japanese meds don't have an autoloader
haughty forge
It is getting accuracy and mobility buff , ya 190 prem ap pen wont hurt tho
hollow belfry
The Type 61 and STA-1 might have better pen but the autoloader is just better in my opinion. Having good pen but mediocre alpha and mobility along with no armor makes you prone to get rushed and deleted by anything in 1v1.
Meanwhile the Chi-Ri can get 500 of your HP's off quickly
haughty forge
It is good but can be derped from front and it only needs prammo buff ( maybe)
pliant lodge
@hollow belfry it doesn't really have the speed to flank and guarantee crossfire. plus you will most likely not pen some shots
haughty forge
Not asking to make it 200 but 190 would be really nice
hollow belfry
Playing tanks with weak armor effectively implies for the driver to have good awareness and not yolo like an idiot in from high-caliber guns.
The speed isn't great but it can get around and shoot at distracted targets.
haughty forge
Same can be said about anything duh , i am also fine with it not receiving a buff , the line is hard but reward is golden
hollow belfry
Precisely. Hard work, good reward. Not all tanks need to be very good. I'm fine with some tanks being only effective in the hands of good players.
swift heart
I canāt be the only one with a couple of tanks and broke as heck
Seriously I need tips to make more money
delicate barn
same
gentle wasp
play well, don't die, don't spam prammo, use provisions sparingly
hollow belfry
I started a free to play account recently and will soon get a tier 7 tank. No credits issues so far, it's been going pretty handy to be honest
delicate barn
I don't use prammo, I use my provisions only when needed and still poor
gentle wasp
then you're playing the wrong tanks, or not playing well enough
hollow belfry
^
haughty forge
Or it is just high tiers without prem time
delicate barn
not playing well enough probably tbh, im still pretty rusty
hollow belfry
I've been using provisions as much as possible and I rarely lost any credits
delicate barn
It's probably the fact that I switch lines every week since I loose interest fast that makes me so poor
gentle wasp
yea that is not going to be friendly to your credits
delicate barn
I do have over 6 stray tier 8s now
hollow belfry
I'm grinding several lines at the same time. Smart managing of my grinds makes me save a lot of free exp by modules sharing, which is vital as a f2p. Less painful stock grinds are also better in order to sustain good performance in battle.
delicate barn
Since when can you module share
gentle wasp
if they are the same module, you only have to research it once
delicate barn
Really?
hollow belfry
Yes.
gentle wasp
most common within a line (704 and ISU both have BL-10), but it happens in multiple lines as well (4202 and Vickers line share multiple modules iirc)
hollow belfry
As an example, I will buy the VK 30.01 D before the Jagdpanther. The VK 30.01 D, Jagdpanther and Panther all 3 share the same top engine. It's better to grind it on a tier 6 tank than on a T7 one.
delicate barn
Wait but don't you have to keep the tank with the modules to get the same modules on another tank?
gentle wasp
no, once you research it will be unlocked on every other tank as well
delicate barn
Oh
hollow belfry
For the same reason I bought the VK 36.01 H before the VK 30.01 P or the D version. The heavy uses the K.w.K. 42 L/70 as it's stock gun, while on the 2 mediums you must research it using exp.
swift heart
What tanks have the best credit coefficient
gentle wasp
@swift heart http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-56-missing-a-few-new-tanks/
this is also pinned in #general-blitz-discussion for future reference
languid needle
You also gotta look for the repair cost
gentle wasp
and also how good the tank actually is
gentle wasp
85% is pretty crap, it's just not terrible compared to the majority of t10
Also you'll need a lot of prammo so it really won't make anything
tulip edge
Not really. I believe its repair cost is on the higher end of tier tens
gentle wasp
Again, it really isn't, t10 is just terrible for making profits
delicate barn
Yeah, guess so
tulip edge
Only ones you can make reliable profits in are those top premium tanks.
I have the MK6 and decent games can bank me at least 20,000. Better off going down two tiers for credit making
delicate barn
The panther l looks good for making profit tho
gentle wasp
for example, the Vk makes worse credits than every single t6 except the T-150
hollow belfry
I forgot what an awesome tank the Nashorn was
crystal hare
Yeah, nashorn is good if you can conserve your hp
keen escarp
Nashorn could do over 400
crystal hare
Random Fact: the FV215B is the tank with the highest HE pen (120 mm)
gentle wasp
are you not counting true HESH then
delicate barn
Nashorn gets HE'ed very easily
crystal hare
HESH is a prem round, Iām only counting standard HE rounds
hollow belfry
If the Nashorn had any armor, it would be blatantly overpowered
gentle wasp
Conway also has 120
crystal hare
The highest HE on a 152 mm is 99 with cs I believe
kindred wren
HESH is not exactly premium HE. The Ru 251 for example has a round that is called "HEP" (basically HESH but in American because reasons). The game mechanics treat HESH and HE exactly the same by the way, only some parameters are different depending on the round in question
plucky summit
FV215bās āHEā is named HESH š³
@crystal hare
swift heart
Hesh or High Explosive Squash Head is a concussive shell which on impact will āsquashā therefore squash head and then explode there for high explosive and fragments of enemy armor will be used against them
viral lodge
Chimera's HE is HESH. so is 4005's
swift heart
Hep vs hesh
viral lodge
Same thing, different names. HEP is just High Explosive Plastic.
swift heart
But still hep looks exactly like he more pen?
viral lodge
HESH in this game is glorified HE with more pen, this isnt like WT with fragmenting affect that im aware of.
HEP and HESH are the exact same thing.
viral lodge
Brits invented it and the American/German version of HESH is called HEP.
SU is just weird I think, just swapped AP/Pramo uses
swift heart
Cause āap+ on the su does more damage,
viral lodge
Its just AP, AP does AP things.
swift heart
And I heard it has a higher chance of doing module damage
viral lodge
Im not able to answer that since I am not fully aware of how module dmg is calcuated in this game.
swift heart
Oh,thatās fine
gentle wasp
same as it's regular AP
kindred wren
The German version of HESH is not called HEP. It is called Quetschkopfgranate/ Quetschkopfgeschoss which is literally translated as Squash Head Shell and thus in line with the British naming. It is only called HEP because itās US-American production which was used
viral lodge
I stand corrected.
kindred wren
As a rule of thumb you can say that if the shell deals more standard damage it also deals more module damage
Though according the wotinspector the premium ammo of the SU-100Y does not deal extra module damage
hushed shadow
Caliber of shell maybe?
kindred wren
WG tinkered a lot with module damage so it would take a lot of research to find rules in this mess. I can only see a tendency of higher alpha -> higher module damage
tepid smelt
or hitting the same place over and over again
crystal hare
@plucky summit oh no I didnāt realize that, but itās ācheap HESHā
plucky summit
Yeah :p
solid gate
Higher gun caliber has a higher chance to damage modules
crystal hare
@kindred wren isnāt it caliber? Higher caliber means more module dmg
plucky summit
Hence 183 slaps 244 module/crew damage
kindred wren
@crystal hare Yeah, but some tanks get more or less module damage like some guns get more or less alpha damage despite being in the same caliber class
crystal hare
SU-100 does like 250 module damage
Lux youāre right
plucky summit
SU-100 does 165
crystal hare
Oh yeah, havenāt been on wot inspector in a while
plucky summit
I use Blitzhangar :p
swift heart
Lol same
lost tree
I love the su152 so much
plucky summit
SU is better than Smasher, change my mind
hushed shadow
Turret
thick trout
Pen, aim, armour etc etc
potent forum
That screenshot is from the future. Expect 4-6 smashers per game, platooning.
crystal hare
@plucky summit Iām not going to change your mind i totally agree, especially when I get a 3000 damage game
soft imp
Tbh tiger 131 and kuro have been power creeped. Thereās arls and vk36 spam now, maybe the tiger 131 and kuro could use a little armor buff?
solid gate
Why buff tier 6 prems when you can just buy those tier 6 tech trees?
soft imp
Why buff tier 6 prems when you can just buy those tier 6 tech trees?
@solid gate cuz any t6 tank should be capable of fighting, prem tanks shouldnāt be OP and same counts for tech tree tanks
solid gate
Prem tanks are meant to be worse than tech tree counter parts
soft imp
Ehm they be really worse, not by a bit
solid gate
T34
soft imp
Look at the vk36ās armor profile and then the kuro like cmon
The p43 ann is a very small bit better than the tech tree, same counts for the thunder
solid gate
The difference between those two is marginal aside from this still literally no reason you canāt get a vk 36 or arl 44
Tiger 131 is fine. It has a lot of hp, and is pretty menuverble and can side scrape
soft imp
The difference between those two is marginal aside from this still literally no reason you canāt get a vk 36 or arl 44
@solid gate yes but maybe someone has gotten the premium with better credit coefficient so they rather play that?
Also @solid gate sure it can sidescrape but wait till you get penned like butter by any other tier 6
solid gate
Only bc u show your front. There is no armor there
I mean if your choosing to play a tiger 131 or Kuro at tier 6 for profits thatās on you since thereās many other tanks with better coefficients
soft imp
On some maps one simply cant sidescrape
soft imp
Thats my goal too, to play it for fun. But it aint really fun to get rekt by ithers cuz you have no frontal armor in one of the strongest tanks from that era
Atleast make it that people have to spam gold like with the tiger 2, this is just sad
solid gate
My wr in it is 82 (13 battles) I enjoy it
soft imp
Tbh idc bout my winrate, one can win every game and still not have fun
solid gate
I only want a good wr so people donāt judge me. In my opinion, avg dmg is more important
delicate barn
I have a 40% winrate and I don't care honestly
soft imp
Mate, if people judge you cuz of ur wr theyāre stupid anyways
And thereās no use in having a high winrate in low tiers, people with any knowledge of the game and want to see someoneās skill look at tier X
solid gate
I donāt use tier x
soft imp
Oof
solid gate
But I have like 6-7 with 4200 battles
delicate barn
Though I don't have a tier 10, I feel like they should be played more in training rooms since the matches you do in then almost never give you profit
soft imp
Anyways, the tiger shouldnāt be a tank where you can get a troll bounce sometimes. For gods sake 1 tiger would take out multiple t34ās inbattle, this armor is just too weak
solid gate
No, itās just tiger 1 thatās op. It donāt even need to angle anymore
soft imp
Though I don't have a tier 10, I feel like they should be played more in training rooms since the matches you do in then almost never give you profit
@delicate barn one doesnāt play tier X for the credits, not even with a mk6 chief
No, itās just tiger 1 thatās op
@solid gate tiger aint OP, load the gold and its an easy pen. Should be the same for the 131
solid gate
Many donāt use gold
delicate barn
Even without gold its pretty easy to pen it
soft imp
Cmon a tiger 131 that gets just as many bounces as the t3485, like fr?
soft imp
Same with vk (tiger 1 prototype)
@solid gate vk is weak af. Turret gets penned by anything and the hull can only bounce y5 elc bis tanks
solid gate
Oh, guess Iām stuck in the past, lol
soft imp
Have ya played it?
delicate barn
The vk's gun is amazing tho, and it's very mobile for its size
solid gate
I have played against it, I could only pen copola on the vk
soft imp
Still it should have some armor bru> I have played against it, I could only pen copola
@solid gate what tank
solid gate
I think the tiger 131 needs a armor buff, front and sides, not a whole lot, but yeah
keen escarp
But the kuro is better people said.
solid gate
Thatās true, but only by a fraction I think
soft imp
Same, but what tank were you in when you fought the vk45.03?
Also @keen escarp only a very small statistic in movement
keen escarp
Ik
solid gate
Idk, probaly vk (med to the maus)
soft imp
Idk, probaly vk (med to the maus)
@solid gate vk30.01(P)? The tier 6?
solid gate
Yes
soft imp
Then ofcourse its going to be red lol. An IS would be red for you too but still its armor is nowhere to be seen
soft imp
So does that vk suk?
@solid gate if you play it like a td hiding like a little b*tch and not getting shot at its OK, the gun had some nice dpm and the speed is pretty good, but when one needs to survive you just have the armor profile of a med
solid gate
What about the event wz? Iām trying to get it, but many say itās trash
plucky summit
Don't get it, gamble for Smasher
soft imp
What about the event wz? Iām trying to get it, but many say itās trash
@solid gate its a grille at tier 7, I find it to be nice sometimes but just rather play the skorpion.
crystal hare
If you want it you need to play it like an AMX elc bis @solid gate
soft imp
For a free tier 7 its lovely I guess, donāt gamble for the smasher. I got 4 of dem crates and returned with a scavenger
solid gate
Is it worth 1000 gold?
keen escarp
Oop
solid gate
Wat?
soft imp
The blaze?
solid gate
Yes
plucky summit
Lmfao just gamble for Smasher, less of a grind and Blaze is somewhat outclassed
solid gate
I want a tank, not gold boosters or scrap metal
soft imp
Depends on how many tanks you got, if youāre planning on playing it and how regularly you waste money on this game
solid gate
Well, I have a spare 1000 gold from videos and gold boosters and leftovers
soft imp
Youāre not planning on spending any money to get more for maybe another tank?
solid gate
I do, but my limit is ~12$
soft imp
How often do you play tier 7 and do you like paper tds?
solid gate
I donāt play fast tanks a lot. The only fast tank I use is e25 and a Australien tank I think
soft imp
Nah then dont get it, if you have the e25 its not worth gettin this (1000 gold is cheap, but if you plan on spending money to go for something else dont). Tip: buy the coming battlepass, itāll give you gold and tonnes of recourses to refill ur gold
solid gate
Right, forgot about that. can u grind till you die, or do u have limited battles?
soft imp
Cuz you should get around 4k gold from the battlepass? + 1k gold from leftover makes 5k. Guess whats comin soon? Black friday. Then youāll be able to pick up a cheap thicc t8 for 5k.
^ you have 100 battles total to play, after that you wont get anymore currencies for your battles. Best is to play some nice t9ās and preferred lights (for extra spotting assistance exp)
keen escarp
@solid gate i agree i want a tank
solid gate
Iāll play my highest wr/avg dmg. My T34
soft imp
Welp gl m8, imma head out
solid gate
Yep. Thx for the info
soft imp
No p bro
solid gate
Have a good one
delicate barn
You can get gold from the battle pass?
delicate barn
Finally I'll have a chance to get an actual premium tank
How do you get access to the premium battle pass line?
tulip sail
Usally you buy it
hollow moth
Money@delicate barn
rotund palm
Is Vk 72 worth grinding?
I heard the Tier 8 is Bad
low elk
not worth it
get E100 instead
crystal hare
If you want a rear turret Lowe with a better gun and armor. (Doesnāt make creds tho)
@rotund palm
plucky summit
The Lowe is even more capable in sidescraping :p
It also has special ridge dynamics, with a great gun
strange thicket
If you want a rear turret Lowe with a better gun and armor. (Doesnāt make creds tho)
@rotund palm
@crystal hare Lowe is still better tier for tier
mental breach
What r the best mediums for brawling?
plucky summit
E50 M is nice
eternal salmon
can you check the tournament t6 team name TXSRG. report if possible, they are very toxic. we started a match and they stated to call us stupid .
solid gate
It depends on whay tier tho
mental breach
Tier x
solid gate
@mental breach
Tier 10 would be the soviet meds, german and chinese
Well at least for me it's those
mental breach
Ok
solid gate
@inland osprey it's not impossible
inland osprey
Actually I think this is the wrong channel for this stuff, imma delet it
solid gate
@inland osprey yeah that's true
I get like 5k dmg with my T-34-85 and get 6 kills then a stealing brat gets the last one with 200 least dmg
@inland osprey nah not really
Some tabs here are mixed up sometimes
inland osprey
My other few Raseinais are on derpy tanks like the Nightmare and M2 Medium (before the derp got removed)
solid gate
@inland osprey
What about the other derps?
inland osprey
I hadn't have much luck in them so
solid gate
@inland osprey
Yeah some has high reload time it's hard to get one from them sometimes
woeful creek
Oh, this is da Sheridan without the spaced armour
solid gate
Yup
next solstice
yep
woeful creek
it looks weird
solid gate
@woeful creek
Well it is semiaquatic
woeful creek
oh
solid gate
@woeful creek notice the way the tracks are attached?
solid gate
@woeful creek
Semiautomatic Tanks always have their tracks smaller or lowered from the tanks hull
If you look at Bt-SV you'll see it a little
Not in this game no
I tried the BT-SV and it... didn't float
solid gate
I think so yeah
It was in service till 1997
rotund palm
I regret getting IS 7
First match got ammoracked full HP
woeful creek
Lemme guess... Ammoracks
solid gate
@rotund palm knew it
rotund palm
should I sell it then buy IS 4 ?
woeful creek
I rather keep my Tier 10 tanks
It's a waste on your hard work if u sell them
solid gate
@rotund palm probably yeah
Is-4 is really good compared to Is-7
Yes Is 7 does have armor
But what people doesn't know is that the armor profile on IS 4 is better and well angled that the IS 7
Well yeah @woeful creek is right too
rotund palm
I have every tier X except the IS 4 ;-;
solid gate
@rotund palm you for real boi?
The one tank that can beat a Maus
You don't have one
woeful creek
Btw... @rotund palm
How's the Pattons
Good or bad?
rotund palm
Kinda good i Skipped the VK 45 A and B to get VK 72 instantly
solid gate
@rotund palm yeah skipping the Vk 45 is a good option
The grind on that is like walking on broken glass
rotund palm
Should i sell IS 7 or just use Lƶwe or any prem tanks to get creds?
woeful creek
Use prem tanks
solid gate
@rotund palm hmmm
Selling is one option
But sometimes selling a tank will result regret in tje future so
Just grind the creds
woeful creek
Who knows, maybe the tank that you sold will get a buff
rotund palm
Does collector tanks Count as premium? Cause I'll be using Vk 90
solid gate
@woeful creek
Do you have E100?
Or anyways both of you
woeful creek
Nope, I am still grinding to tier 10
I kinda stopped grinding to the obj 268
And went for the American meds
solid gate
Well either way
Stay with Is 7,E 100 and IS 4
They received a mayor armor buff in PC
Specially E 100
strange thicket
Does collector tanks Count as premium? Cause I'll be using Vk 90
@rotund palm it doesn't matter
just check the credit earnings of tanks
premiums always have high credit earnings but for collectors not necessarily
i would rather use the lowe anyway
rotund palm
Lƶwe it is
fast compass
Vk90 has 140% credit coefficient. So better than your tech tree tanks. But you should probably stick to lowe
orchid nymph
@solid gate they buffed the 12,8 too. that might a nice change to have in blitz
narrow dove
should blitz add this to the game ? amx 13 sm1
delicate barn
I really want to see an actually good maus in all its glory on the battefield
sudden granite
which TD is better, the ISU122S or the SU122-44
plucky summit
I believe SU or more dynamic and powerful
sudden granite
mhm that's what i thought
delicate barn
if you want a good tier 8 td go for the isu152
sudden granite
you know they're both tier 7s right?
delicate barn
im a blitz boomer
wise moth
At this point, probably ISU-122S. 122-44 is not that much faster. Neither is going to bounce anything, and 4 degrees gun depression on the 122-44 vs. the 6 on the ISU seriously limits your flexibility. And that's not to mention the 600 DPM advantage on the ISU @plucky summit
Also, 10M more view range on the ISU is a cherry on top š
sudden granite
i see
delicate barn
the 122 44 seems more mobile and fun in my opinion tho I don't own it
plucky summit
Ooh nice
I think the armor for SU is pretty reliable vs tier 6 but I havenāt really checked into it
delicate barn
vs tier 6 it depends, but tier 7 and higher and anyone can pen it
plucky summit
Unless you do counterproductive angling
wise moth
122-44 isn't as fast as it looks like it should be @delicate barn
The engine is actually pretty underpowered, so unless you're going downhill, it's actually kinda sluggish (albeit not as slow as an ISU, but again, not that much faster)
@plucky summit Armor vs. tier 6's is very iffy. It's kinda like a 113 in that just a degree or two of them being above you makes it gray. And this is vs. Cromwells, not exactly penetration monsters
delicate barn
how fast can it go @wise moth?
plucky summit
Well that aināt angled at all :p
wise moth
And here's level ground. You can bounce tier 6 medium standard shells, but I wouldn't count it
delicate barn
the only real thing keeping the 122 44 together is the good gun
wise moth
And remember this is a Cromwell's AP. Pretty much the lowest pen thing you'll face.
And lets be real, if you're facing a Cromwell, either TD is going to tear them apart in mere moments with their tier 10 levels of firepower
plucky summit
With relatively low pen in general, but it works against most tanks
delicate barn
when I started playing blitz the 122 44 was a big fear of mine to go against since I only had tier 6's and I had no way of penning it
they probably nerfed it tho tbh
wise moth
@plucky summit Also, if the tier 6 med is loading gold, no amount of angling is going to save you
plucky summit
I should start drawing correct IS-4 hulls
Ooh yes, less damage >:)
delicate barn
I hate my auto correct I meant nerfed instead of needed
plucky summit
S35 CA OP at peeking right
wise moth
And, also, don't forget that this armor is what is supposed to overcome that 600 DPM advantage on the ISU
delicate barn
yes I absolutely love the bath tub
plucky summit
And its 130mm ._.
Oh god dam it I switched it with ISU-130
wise moth
ISU-122S uses a 122, as the name would imply
delicate barn
The S35 has amazing damage, dpm and the gun can turn a long way to one side before rotating the tank
plucky summit
Well at least SU is a wedge ;)
wise moth
The primary advantage of the 122-44 IMO is that it looks sexy AF
delicate barn
^
plucky summit
IS-7 sexier than IS-4 change my mind
delicate barn
it is but it's not all that better
plucky summit
Who would want to kill such a sexy beast? Well, before it shoots you ._.
wise moth
Nah. Especially with the attachment, IS-7 on Blitz is a great looking tank, maybe even better than how it looks on PC
PC IS-7 kinda looks like an amorphous blob with its machine gun folded down
delicate barn
PC IS7 is much better than in blitz, actually one of the best fast heavies
plucky summit
Iāve been confused on the three caliber rule, it doesnāt autopen, correct?
Eh I probably pulled an Alzheimerās the last time I shot a Pz. III with 268
wise moth
@plucky summit It's not an autopen. It's just guranteed to not autobounce.
But you also benefit from the 2 calibers rule, and if you're triple overmatching something, the armor's super thin too, especially after the 2 calibers rule
plucky summit
I need to start memorizing the two caliber rule equation, that and if Blitz has different spotting mechanics, though from what Iāve seen, it seems the same
wise moth
It's hard to get an example of a triple overmatch that won't pen, but here's one. A-32's 76mm gun vs. this angled 25mm side on the M36
delicate barn
Isn't the m36 just a modified Jackson?
wise moth
Jackson is the M36
plucky summit
I guess I hit Pz. III at a different angle then lol
If only the TOG didnāt have 25mm plates behind the front track wheel
Luckily the Germans also made that mistake with the Tiger (P)
wise moth
It's pretty freaking difficult to bounce off a Panzer III with a 268 though
If I angled the front anymore, I wouldn't have the manual dexterity to click the front plate
delicate barn
The t25 was way more of a threat back in the day
plucky summit
I think itād be nice with more speed and/or a more threatening gun
wise moth
I think I've played T-25 like once, but IIRC, my biggest thought was "man, this thing turns like a 113"
delicate barn
lol
plucky summit
I just slap it in the āoh, a tier V med that slaps 160, how uniqueā
Before anyone goes nuts itās sarcastic
delicate barn
lmao
plucky summit
Why did they kill KV-1? It was such a nice tank
delicate barn
The kv1's only fear was a BDR back then
plucky summit
The KV-1 taught me how to angle, when I actually was new
delicate barn
I never learned to angle since I just wiggle and it works lol
open solstice
What do you guys prefer more? Wz113 or t110e5?
I think wz113 is good for a skilled player who knows how to angle
And t110e5 is good for all kinds of player
Wz113 might just be better than e5 in my opinion
plucky summit
E5 is more of a threat to me, itās a hard nut to crack
delicate barn
when I was in my Leo pta I never saw the e5 as a real threat tbh
wise moth
E5 is only annoying for me if I don't have HEAT ammo
delicate barn
I never use premium ammo and still works out
plucky summit
I may or may not feel the way I do because I play IS-7 š³
open solstice
E5 is only tough when he's facing you frontally,if he angle even a bit just shoot his tracks
Most of the time you'll track him and damage him as well wz113 is very annoying because i can't compete with him in terms of firepower
plucky summit
WZ-113 is auto-bounce 100, quite annoying sometimes, but I manage
delicate barn
for me if I see a sexy tank that is big and looks threatening I'll be more scared than if I see A op ugly tank
wise moth
If I'm in an IS-7, I'll probably just push him
plucky summit
But the DPM war, unless heās alone and Iām confident I can hug em
open solstice
Wz113 is,atleast for me,limited to areas it can be used but t110e5 probably might be one of the most flexible heavies at t10 especially with 8Ā° gun depression
delicate barn
Dpm doesn't exactly matter too much if you can face ram them and they can't pen your front plate
languid needle
Wz113 upper plate is easy to pen by pramo if not angled
plucky summit
Buff 215bās UFP ;)
wise moth
@plucky summit In a DPM war, E5's DPM advantage isn't significant enough to be a threat, and he's more likely to bounce shells than I am
plucky summit
I guess the only concern should be the team behind em
open solstice
I want wz113 to have a traverse speed buff,it will literally be a chieftain mk.6 but with more dpm
delicate barn
and free
plucky summit
You just explained why that buff is OP
languid needle
Not really, mk6 have -10 gun dep and 113 have -5. Plus chief have very weak side armor unlike 113 that is very good at side scrapping
neat nimbus
ive seen a video about how it is the tank and basically isnt for everyone whos plays in agressive mode
plucky summit
Eh... eh....
delicate barn
well im not getting the blaze thats for sure then