(Vents give 5%)
#vehicles-discussion
kindred wren
kind bluff
ok and
so we have provisions that do the job id rather have 20+ more pen
solid gate
^^^ also you can stack food and fuel lol
kindred wren
I don't understand why people argue that it's too marginal but are still prepared to pay credits every game for the same effect
kind bluff
relatively marginal compared to a gigantic pen boost
for provisions there's no other competition
solid gate
^^ it’s still a no brainer to run CS on an auto loader
kindred wren
It's 5% and 10% pen boost
kind bluff
200 * 0.10 = 20
20+ more pen ez quik mafs
solid gate
The effects also boost for shell types too
kind bluff
no matter what you say u still gon say ur rite so 🤷♂️
kindred wren
Which isn't even that relevant since most weakspots are actually... weak so extra pen won't help you
solid gate
It’s like saying I’ll run vents on a batchat because I move slightly faster
hollow notch
On things like a prog 46 I consider vents. The pen on ap is still garbage, while the apcr butters everything either way
kindred wren
@kind bluff As though you will just abandon your position. What do you expect from me?
Do I have to justify actually being convinced of what I say? It would be ridiculous if it was the other way round
bitter raven
Nerf sturer emil agility
He moves fast than a LTTB
kind bluff
🤷♂️
rustic gate
How much is the legendary camo for kpfpz 70?
wise spindle
Vilt actually gave this pic to me but here
rustic gate
Oh, thank you :)
potent tinsel
What do you guys think of a buff of all tier 8 90 mm guns
I think they should all deal 240, not just premium tanks with it
shell forum
(I'm sorry for reviving the debate) so AutoReloader can run vent but Autoloader run CS? Am I understanding this right?
solid gate
Should i buy a tog 2?
tulip sail
It's a good tank with a great gun and lots of hp but next to no armour
Oh it's also incredibly slow
shell forum
Tog2 is not a tank. Tog2 is a land yacht. You dont drive the Tog2, you sail the Tog2
rustic gate
Is the grille 15 raider camo a special camo?
neat nimbus
this is gonna break the game if they add those wheels
viral lodge
I think they already said they probably won’t add it.
lost tree
Let’s add a plane 👍
neat nimbus
and double barrel soviets?
lost tree
Let’s add a quad barreled 4 turret Smasher for tier 10 that can top out at 70 km/h with 800mm armor on every angle with 100 rotation
neat nimbus
oh yeah we have the helsing that should be enough
lost tree
Nah we should do my idea
neat nimbus
boi if they make this a legendary camo i would go for the sheridan just to buy it
keen escarp
Ok
neat nimbus
the one is in game looks great but yet again it looks like a toy
candid arch
Is the grille 15 raider camo a special camo?
@rustic gate no, you can purchase it for like 2550 gold at any time. I got a -50% deal for mine 😁
haughty spindle
Well someone needs to buff t28 whist it is plain
kind bluff
thats literally a normal common camo for us tanks that u can find
plucky summit
New OP tonk
hollow moth
This mantlet is too big, but nice design
plucky summit
Don't question the track symmetry, I'm bad at that >:(
And I like the O-I gun style
hollow moth
I see that you remembered IS-6/Chimera hull during the drawing, nice tank bro
plucky summit
Thanks, I was going for a pretty slick IS-4 pike and let the huge LFP be a balance factor
Want me to draw a tank combo? I can do most stuff in Blitz decently (ehem streamlined turrets are god-awfully hard to draw) so give a gun, a turret optionally, and a hull
Quality is sure to be less than optimal :p
The one above is one of the finer ones if you ignore the further track, and the practically bad gun dynamics
solid gate
Tried to play tier 3 tank, couldnt access game 5min waiting time 200 queue. Tier X 30 sec. Makes no sense to buy low tier tanks. Eventough low WR.
plucky summit
Probably because there's not enough players in tier 3? Also what tank, and were you in a platoon?
hollow moth
This horror was the first time that I drew a tank
plucky summit
The only criticism I'm remotely qualified to slap on that is the turret sizing
Even then I'm worse at scaling lol
hollow moth
Only the turret? That track looks a Ferdinand track, meanwhile the cannon is too long
plucky summit
And also the booty thickening behind the turret you missed
hollow moth
The only good part about this was the hull, honestly I think those details didn't let it become so bad as the turret and the tracks
plucky summit
Maybe it's time to amend your mistakes?
Go get em tiger
hollow moth
Maybe, today gonna do it, 3:31 AM rn
solid gate
That drawing has all the basic shapes but its way out of proportions
plucky summit
1:32 AM for me lol, I'm vibin tank drawings rn
plucky summit
cute lil boi
hollow moth
It looks a Pershing after being attacked with sulfuric acid
plucky summit
I think if you defined the closer corner line and kept the side angling more upwards you got a chonker
hollow moth
True
plucky summit
It helps to line it up with your gun, if you have a line that's supposed to be lined up, you can use to to keep them, well, lined up
quartz socket
What should i research first? Turret, engine, tracks?
@mint aurora I prefer to go for the gun then the turret after that tracks, Go for the engines last...
onyx venture
Just free xp everything ezpz
quartz socket
Did they increase the reload time of T32
cause when i saw in Meadsy 69 review he had the reloading time of 8.1 sec....
plucky summit
@quartz socket was he low HP? Or using adrenaline?
quartz socket
aderline i think, not sure
plucky summit
Should be low HP because adrenaline would make it far too quick, maybe he had it with a non-maxed crew
wise moth
Yeah, adrenaline crew skill level 7 + rammer + double food drops the reload to 8.03s
plucky summit
At around 62% crew adrenaline leaves 8.1
quartz socket
oh my crew is 94% in T32 XD
wise moth
@quartz socket You probably weren't running any provisions, had less than a 100% crew, and were using calibrated shells
plucky summit
Adrenaline Rush level 5 is 8.14s
azure widget
Tier 9 is the new tier 8 with the disgusting premiums. Every game has at least 2 premiums. Very sad. Tier x is next I suppose
plucky summit
Tier X is probably too competitive to be unbalanced that much
wise moth
@plucky summit Although it's possible that he wasn't running the small food, and had double HP, so that would probably put the reload at 8.13s with adrenaline rush level 7, which would be rounded to 8.1s
plucky summit
I'm just slappin all the situations in on blitzhangar xD
quartz socket
true mate...I do not use any provisions
solid gate
Why though
plucky summit
Anyways it's possible, but he must've been on low HP then
quartz socket
i will show u the screen short after
plucky summit
Yuh, dew it
wise moth
Although, I do believe that my guess is likely correct; big food + double HP, 100% crew, rammer, and level 7 adrenaline rush
dawn maple
hi
quartz socket
oh my adrenaline is level 4
plucky summit
Huh, T32 has 6 crew members, 2 loaders
plucky summit
Ooh blitzhangar needs to implement crew or module damage ;)
quartz socket
😏
wise moth
I have no idea where armor inspector gets their module info TBH
quartz socket
But the armour of T32 is not as good as T29...T29 has soo good armour comparing to T32
plucky summit
Maybe they rip it from PC or WG gave it to them, because for new/rare tanks or sumn, they don't have the modules info
Like Mr. Invincible modules
quartz socket
XD
wise moth
@quartz socket That's false. T32 has a stronger upper front hull, stronger turret, and thicker sides
hollow moth
Actually all the new tanks don't have module information since the European line@plucky summit
plucky summit
oof
wise moth
@plucky summit They might not have module info on it, but we do have info on a ridiculous black hole in there
plucky summit
Fun fact the WZ tier IX TD has a hole in it, and I think the O-47 does too
hollow moth
But it's true, according to what WG said there is a 1000mm box around all the modules and crew
(This black hole are them@wise moth)
plucky summit
the crew is stuffed into the black hole lmfao
wise moth
Yah, I know, they weren't kidding lol
solid gate
Crew can still be killed though
wise moth
I'm just surprised that they even put that thing in there in the first place. Seems unnecessary
hollow moth
Yes, you don't need to penetrate something to kill the crew, HE is an exemple of it
plucky summit
I guess they didn't wanna code up a crew protection system, even though it seems simpler
In rare cases, crew can be damaged by bounces from AP shells, maybe even other shell types
wise moth
@plucky summit The simple solution is to just give all the modules like eleventy billion module HP
hollow moth
They still can be damaged even with this HP@wise moth
plucky summit
Nah
solid gate
Reminds Me of console making the zombie panther having unbreakable tracks for halloween
wise moth
@hollow moth In order to reach the yellow "damaged" status, a module must lose at least 50% of its HP or something
hollow moth
Interesting
plucky summit
I wonder what tank has the most crew/module DPM? Maybe 183? Or perhaps Jageroo?
wise moth
183 with HESH IIRC
plucky summit
All of 183's shell types have the same C/M dmg tho
Acc to BH
wise moth
I was debating whether or not the Maus could be one shot racked with someone, and I couldn't find any guns that did more than 183. And HESH has the advantage of being an HE shell, so it does guranteed module damage, no saving throw
plucky summit
There was a situation that always racked the Maus in two shots or sumn, forgot it tho
wise moth
@plucky summit The 113 turret sidehug trick, which incidentally is exactly the debate I was having
plucky summit
And I also found out some time ago that overmatch (even though they said it won't auto-pen) literally doesn't autopen
wise moth
I know that, that's a common misconception, all it does is gurantee that you won't autobounce
plucky summit
Yeah, but they seemed to have changed the enhanced armor mechanic, which actually changes the base armor
wise moth
It's just coincedence that in the majority of scenarios where you have a triple overmatch, the 2 caliber rule also means you pretty much pen all the time
solid gate
I face palm whenever people run armor over health in tanks that dont need it
plucky summit
Gosh imagine a player who knew how everything worked
wise moth
I know most of the mechanics inside and out, but enhanced armor is a black hole. And also dispersion
plucky summit
I have yet to study the module/crew profile of tanks, I only cared for the armor and whatnot, because if I can exploit the tanks that have them, ooh boy
wise moth
Once I was debating vert stab vs. refined gun with someone. We ran tests on the maximum bloom and stuff, and nothing made sense. So I just forget we ever did that, and live in blissful ignorance
plucky summit
I just run ref gun lol, for the times being fully aimed in could help
wise moth
@plucky summit Studying module placement isn't all that useful, since usually it's almost always better to aim center mass at the part that you can pen
solid gate
And then theres also people who run vents over CS
wise moth
I do that. Screw CS. Absolutely useless piece of equipment in pubs @solid gate
plucky summit
I ran vents on french lights, thinking I just have to wait till the enemy shows a weakspot
CS is too insignificant for low-pen tanks and too overkill for high-pen tanks, only the mediocre pen tanks could really use the help
dawn maple
platoon?
wise moth
I only put CS on like 4 tanks, I have it on my T57, Nightmare, 183, and Bat Chat (although I go back and forth on that one), I've taken it off of everything else, and run vents/rammer instead
wise moth
I put CS on 183 cuz I'm not playing it for stats, so I just mess around with HESH spam
plucky summit
Fun gambling machine, that you can actually rig a bit
wise moth
Only time I pull it out is when I'm bored of all my other tier 10s, see it in my garage, and think "that could be fun", then proceed to do 0 damage in it and remember that I suck nuts in it
solid gate
reminds me of this dude on NA who does nothing but spam 183 and has a stupid high amount of battles in it pray if hes ever on your team
plucky summit
I’m nearing my 1,000th battle in my Lowe, I should push it over soon because the rest are below 700
wise moth
*Laughs in ~4700 battles in the Bat Chat *
plucky summit
Especially since I realized how terrifyingly good it is at making positions with debris
solid gate
Im close to 4k battles on leo 1 1 ace away from 60
plucky summit
Meme 18
wise moth
Although, IMO Lowe is starting to show its age, it just doesn't compete well against Tiger II, AMX M4 49, and now T54E2, which more or less do the same thing, but with more armor, mobility, and DPM
plucky summit
The only thing Lowe can really keep special is the accuracy and pen
quartz socket
FV215b 183 hammer is my most favourite tank in the game(Tier10)
plucky summit
For fun, I’d agree
quartz socket
That tank does minimum damage of 950
plucky summit
For HESH, yes? 975?
quartz socket
for all
plucky summit
AP has an average roll of 930...
quartz socket
yes, I dont know much about this tank..only saw in you tube
plucky summit
blitzhangar.com tells you a LOT about tanks
wise moth
Blitzhangar + tank-compare.blitzstars.com + Armor Inspector
The holy trinity of tanking tools
wise moth
@plucky summit https://youtu.be/PNuHj8vwdis
plucky summit
oofs
Well, I'd assume it's because it's spaced armor makes the blatantly red pens possible, but yeah, red should show a risk
quartz socket
i am sooo broke in the game😭
plucky summit
If you want a remotely practical premium in normal tank shop, Lowe it is. But if you don't have the gold, rip
quartz socket
i have 0 gold
plucky summit
Someone slap the credit coefficient table lol
quartz socket
i dont purchase anything in the game(real money)
wise moth
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-31/page__fromsearch__1 @quartz socket
plucky summit
got em
quartz socket
@plucky summit wanna platoon today..like after 1 hour??
my best is tier 8
can u play??
plucky summit
Yeah I can @quartz socket
ping me when you wanna
@quartz socket what server u on?
plucky summit
NA... rip, it's 3:22 AM
quartz socket
whaaaat...for me it is only 12:23 PM
plucky summit
oof, guess I can't toon then
quartz socket
yep
plucky summit
good luck then :p
quartz socket
good luck mate..see ya
kindred wren
@shell forum It depends on your preferences. CS is especially useful for HEAT prammo (10% increase to already high penetration) and if you use a lot of HE. If your standard ammo is low pen and your HEAT ammo more than sufficient for all situations already there is no need for CS, but if you need more pen on the HEAT or prammo in general or want to use HE a lot CS is generally the way to go (I am ignoring standard because the change there is usually only relevant in a few certain situations).
Whenever you feel like you don’t need CS, go for the vents. The thing is that while vents boost your overall crew performance they don’t give you any one advantage or compensate any one disadvantage, so if you can compensate low pen with CS, by all means go for it.
It is a bit of a case by case decision, so just try it out for a bit if you need the CS or not and decide based on that. I hope this helps you
shell forum
Better than nothing i guess
Took me a bit to remember the context from that delayed response lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kindred wren
Yeah, I saw that nobody answered yet so I figured I might as well XD
But yeah, if you are unsure CS is the safer path to go
haughty forge
@kindred wren feel like CS is better than Venta in anyway , 5% crew boost? Comonn
oblique forum
for unknown reason i can't buy it even though my money is enough.. i wonder why
haughty forge
@oblique forum yes , it is worth
kindred wren
Like I said, it only really applies when CS doesn’t give any extra benefits in practical terms
haughty forge
Which tanks u can put as a ex? @kindred wren
oblique forum
i can't buy it.. it says my money is not enough even though my money was exactly same as the prize in game
haughty forge
Check again , maybe add 5$ more
oblique forum
was the price change?
kindred wren
I don’t know, I’m not learning all tanks here by heart. The Progetto was named as an example yesterday but I haven’t checked it
haughty forge
@kindred wren ngl TET and u need to get CH role
kindred wren
TET? And sadly I am being way too controversial most of the time to be named as impartial
kindred wren
Oh, you are TET... derp
shell forum
Minor brain self sabotage... What's the conversation about? TET & Progetto... Wha....?
haughty forge
@kindred wren tankeatingtiger
kindred wren
Oh, this guy. Yeah, he’s helpful
haughty forge
@shell forum no it is not , read carefully lol
kindred wren
@shell forum This conversation changed rather rapidly, at the moment we talk about a user here who helps people and Tetach here thinks he deserves the Community Helper role
haughty forge
My name is , TET(tankeatingtiger) for community helper
shell forum
Oh... Ok... I don't lurk 24hr so I get lost easily
kindred wren
It took me ages to understand that name
haughty forge
Lol
tulip edge
I generally only put on CS when I am doing tournaments.
In random battles you can normally do without it a lot of the time, though there are some tanks I just run CS on all the time, normally to do with the tanks that have premium HESH
solid gate
What makes the IS-4 better than the IS-7? Everyone is saying how the IS-4 is better but I have never seen anyone saying how it is better or how the IS-7 is worse. I’m grinding out the IS-7 first because people say to grind it first to get the guns for the Is-4 line, but why would I grind the IS-4 compared to the IS-7?
Is7 has one of the worst pen of the heavies
lyric copper
@solid gate better armour profile, and more pen. If you slightly over angle your front prepare for ammoracks.
strange thicket
well prammo on is7 is trash compared to prammo on is4
is4 doesn't have a pikenose and the armor layout is.. better to say the least
solid gate
Is4 also gets a huge health boost when running health too about 2800 area iirc
Also is7 is known for going kaboom since it’s ammorack is in the front
lyric copper
at the edge of the pike*
strange thicket
you can angle is4's front but can't do the same with is7
pliant lodge
No you can't.
IS-4 is basically a Maus just better. IS-4 does the same job as Maus does, just better.
smoky narwhal
But the Maus has more hitpoints though
lyric copper
IS-4 is a more well rounded Maus
viral lodge
IS-7 ammo for anyone wondering.
pliant lodge
IS-7 ammo gives 0 sense as it only carries 30 shells and has so much racks over the tank.
lyric copper
it’s quite fragile too.
pliant lodge
IS-7 needs a turret buff :I
strange thicket
No you can't.
@pliant lodge yes you can
you can angle is4s frontal armor because it is sloped and it doesn't have a pikenose
shell forum
One explanation for IS-7 is the 2 pieces ammo which do need a lot of racks
Note: it's a speculation
lyric copper
no it doesn’t @pliant lodge
pliant lodge
It does @lyric copper, every heavy tank can easy gold the turret
viral lodge
IS-4 modules btw.
lyric copper
from the side yeah lol @pliant lodge
You can, but it’s hard to shoot back
pliant lodge
@strange thicket, you can't sidescrape in IS-7
@lyric copper Do you have IS-7? Do you live under a rock? Any heavy tank can gold the front of the turret with gold.
lyric copper
I do, and have heard the hiss of HEAT rounds bouncing all the time
viral lodge
I mean you could try something like this provided you are not being looked at/targeted already.
lyric copper
@viral lodge still a little bit of the inside plate visible
thick trout
@pliant lodge Yes you can sidescrape, yes you can angle it slightly, and yes the turret is very hard to pen unless you are in tournaments.
@viral lodge The issue is the lower plate is so big and weak comparitively
pliant lodge
@viral lodge that doesn't work. They can pen lower palte easy.
lyric copper
@pliant lodge “when you are not being looked at”
strange thicket
@strange thicket, you can't sidescrape in IS-7
@pliant lodge who the frick said anything about angling is-7's front?
i said is-4
can angle its front
is4 not is7
pliant lodge
I was agreeing to your statement. Look at the chat again...
you can angle is4's front but can't do the same with is7
@strange thicket
And I awnserd. "No you can't" as In I'm agreeing on that statement. ._.
viral falcon
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but your statement wasn't clear. I also tought the same way as @strange thicket
strange thicket
@strange thicket
And I awnserd. "No you can't" as In I'm agreeing on that statement. ._.
@pliant lodge oh sorry for my misunderstanding then
pliant lodge
Meh, IS-4 can sidescrape. Disapoints me as IS-7 should be theory be way better than IS-4 in sidescraping
lyric copper
theory often doesn’t apply well in a live simulation
tulip edge
IS-7 side armour becomes a big meme if you know where to shoot
lyric oriole
Basically shoot below the top of the hull, but above the tracks and it doesn't exist
wise moth
@viral lodge As the guy who posted that, I’d say that I wouldn’t do that in an IS-7, the pike angle on IS-7 is pretty steep so it doesn’t really work compared to IS-3
viral lodge
Good point, I dont own the IS-7 so it was a guess lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯
crystal hare
Why would the tech tree have more dpm?
lyric oriole
T-34-2 is intended to use the 122.
If you want a better comparison compare type 59 to T-44
T-34-2 has practically 0 armor, it just got all crammed into the turret
wise moth
Yah, no one smart uses the 100mm on the T-34-2
viral lodge
It would be better to compare the T-34-2 to the T-34-3 and Chimera if you had to compare it to prems.
crystal hare
T-34-3 is the same as t-34-2 but slower
@MayoNasalSpray
[MSELF]#1254 @wise moth yes but if you would play the 100 mm u get more dpm
smoky narwhal
what is the best heavy that can hull down, sidescrape and have a decent mobility
viral lodge
What tier?
wise moth
@crystal hare But you also lose 120 alpha, and you also have the horrific gun handling of the 122, but without the super fast aim time
lyric oriole
More DPM so you have to expose yourself more often, more DPM doesn't necessarily mean better, the type has the Armor to expose itself
smoky narwhal
tier 10
crystal hare
I know, just pointing that out
@smoky narwhal prob is-4
viral lodge
E5/IS-4 I guess. E5 just doesnt sidescrape. Well not that well anyway. E5 is more mobile though.
smoky narwhal
oh okay what line is better?
lyric oriole
E5 line is better, IS-4 is a better tier 10
viral lodge
Both lines have their painful stuff. Id say the E5 line is probably less so.
wise moth
113 is actually a good fit for that description
smoky narwhal
can 113 sidescrape?
lyric oriole
Not really
violet beacon
What do you guys think: VK100 vs VK168?
lyric oriole
The hull traverse is so low and the Turret is placed on the center of the hull. That with only 120mm of armor makes it problematic
smoky narwhal
right now I drive a vk100.01 and love to sidescrape though I just don't like the mobility on it
viral lodge
If you really are determined to sidescrape get the IS-4.
VK 100 > 168
wise moth
@lyric oriole Eh, it sidescrapes decently well for what it is
viral lodge
If they like the VK 100 then IS-4 is probably closer to it but still more mobile.
lyric oriole
I know it can but it just shouldn't.
It's kinda like my "Laptop" that functions like a desktop but it really shouldn't be used like a laptop
smoky narwhal
do you play the e 50 M like any other medium?
lyric oriole
No, I play mine extremely aggressive
tulip edge
I don’t think there is much point to playing the E 50 M over other mediums if you don’t try to be aggressive and bully people with it
viral lodge
E 50 M exists purely to bully meds/lights.
smoky narwhal
really? how?
gentle wasp
The armor and ramming capabilities. Although the turret and gun aren’t good enough to face off against heavies, which kinda sucks rn.
hollow moth
But T62A can bully E50M with a side hug
pliant lodge
True but E50M just needs any sort of treeainfeature @hollow moth
Plus to rush a E50M would be suicide before you could reach the side of it.
viral lodge
I play E 50 (M) purely to ram, I find ramming to be a lot of fun.
gentle wasp
Considering he could just move a bit and delete 200+ hp
hollow moth
I'm not that good on it, my first battle with E50M I made exactly 28 damage
viral lodge
Consider its you not the tank lol.
hollow moth
Yep, it was purely my fault, I played it at 50% crew, no equipements and no chocolate
pliant lodge
@hollow moth E50M is any light or mediums nightmare. As the frontplate will be red with or without gold for any medium
tulip edge
Basically, when dealing with other mediums, you generally want to get up close and personal and make it hard for them to go for the lower plate with a little bit of wiggling - not too much otherwise they’ll shoot into the tracks.
Being able to ram people is a bonus and you should try to utilise it when appropriate
@smoky narwhal
proven oracle
Light tanks shouldn’t be shooting at the front to start with like why your faster then them and have better stealth if your going to be aggressive you shouldn’t be dealing with the front of the e50m lol
kindred wren
The E50 M is made to deal with lights and mediums and it can easily keep its front facing towards them
keen escarp
@viral lodge i am getting is4
i have the ST I with all the turret and gun upgrades and 70 xp i think
haughty forge
Panther 1 teachs how to play in e50m , i think 50m armor is stronger than maus right?
gentle wasp
That line gets progressively more brawl-y, and no it’s not
wise moth
@haughty forge 50M armor is definitely not stronger than the Maus
tulip edge
The tank would be incredibly strong if it was
wise moth
Imagine a Maus with E-50M gun and mobility XD
kindred wren
It’d be gravity all over again
tulip edge
So basically a maus with gravity mode mobility and a meme gun
You’d probably be doing more damage ramming people than actually shooting
pliant lodge
Buff ltwt pen maybe?
lyric copper
I’d say it’s fine, use speed to get to sides/rear ain’t that hard
hollow moth
Lights usually have a lower pen, right?
kindred wren
Lights and mediums, yes
hollow moth
Welp, so I'd say to load some prammo@pliant lodge
stuck blade
Hey what about a new tank
tulip edge
Its penetration is fine and is what light tanks usually pack with the exception of the FV301.
You have more than enough mobility to get around and flank for the weaker spots
hollow moth
We'll have a new line on 7.3 or 7.4@stuck blade
pliant lodge
I'm not really a fan of prammo @hollow moth
gentle wasp
You’re gonna need it if you play lights and meds at any high level
pliant lodge
Wish you could have a maximum of prammo compared to how much ammo you can carry.
lyric copper
175 is fine at tier 8 but unacceptable on the T-54
haughty forge
How strong is e50m armor ? How much pen do u need to pen
gentle wasp
@pliant lodge what’s wrong with taking a lot of prammo
lyric copper
taking prammo is worse for dpm lol
stuck blade
@haughty forge the tanks destroyers say it’s good armor
haughty forge
How much base MM pen u need to
gentle wasp
@haughty forge unangled the lower plate is 175 and the turret face is 198
@lyric copper you have zero DPM if you can’t pen
wise moth
@haughty forge Pretty much everything can pen it through the lowerplate without prammo, but the upper plate is super strong
lyric copper
@gentle wasp good point
stuck blade
TDS really love the side armor
pliant lodge
At least more than 290mm @haughty forge
haughty forge
Ye , upper plate , how much ? I need exact numbers
tulip edge
@haughty forge The lower plate is very weak, the upper plate has around 300mm of angled armour, but the area around the gun on the turret is only about 260mm
gentle wasp
@haughty forge upper plate unangled is about 330
pliant lodge
@haughty forge
haughty forge
Welp , mantlet is prettt big so i dont have too worry about turret much, dam that is stronger than angled is7 ( angled 252 u is stronkest , not even hori prem cant pen)
pliant lodge
I love E50M because it does have reliable armor
tulip edge
Meds can HEAT your turret, but it can be quite trollish. Just make sure you keep the turret moving
gentle wasp
You do have to worry about the turret, most people will HEAT it easily. Best to wiggle it slightly
pliant lodge
Yeah, but all in all E50M is a beast of a medium. Only problem is the weak turret that everyone can pen if you overangle.
gentle wasp
Yep the sides are angled and very weak
haughty forge
not gonna grind the line till hts gets hp nerf
pliant lodge
It does have spaced armor at the middle of the tracks. Which can soak up HEAT shells
haughty forge
I will only grind hulldown mts and tds ( possible hts)
viral lodge
STB is stronk
smoky narwhal
is it the the best medium though? I heard the line is extremely difficult to grind
gentle wasp
It’s definitely one of the best meds but yea the line is pretty rough
smoky narwhal
I'm torn on what tier 10 tank I should go for, I am pretty good at all the skills in the game like Circling as well as hull down and side scraping.
orchid dawn
happy birthday kv-2
tulip edge
@smoky narwhal Well what do you usually enjoy to play?
Also, as a note, the Tier 5-7 japanese mediums are getting minor mobility and gun handling buffs
undone yew
how to chinese is2
tulip edge
@undone yew Really how you would play the normal IS.
You have a 122mm at tier 7, so look to trade shots where appropriate because you have 400 alpha but have low DPM - a-lot of tanks you will meet in tier 7 will be able to out DPM you. So always be thinking about trying to put yourself in positions where you can safely reload and the enemy cannot continuously fire back.
As you would normally do when up tiered, play second line when in tier 8 majority games as you do not have reliable armour to save you and your DPM is lackluster.
The IS-2 is a meh tank so you will suffer a little bit lol
undone yew
oh no
shell forum
General, can you tell me the differences between the Soviet IS and Chinese IS(2)?
gentle wasp
Soviet IS has better gun handling, more gun depression, and better soft mobility stats, along with thicker hull armor.
Chinese IS has a nice HEAT shell as prammo
tulip edge
@gentle wasp Would you use the 122mm or 100mm on the IS-2?
Also the IS-2 does have the sloped upper frontal hull unlike the IS, but you can shoot the corners, the lower plate or the cupola. @shell forum
lost tree
IS is just good lol
gentle wasp
@tulip edge haven’t played the tank but both guns look decent. I do like the way the 100mm plays on the 34-1, but 400 alpha would be nice since it’s a heavy. I’m sure there are other people that have more knowledge on this but I’ll fall back on the “playstyle” answer.
shell forum
9/10 I will sidescrape out of instinct and get rekt...
solid gate
Wargaming add German lights everyone wants it!!!
solid gate
so vk28 sp I c ru251?
hushed shadow
Might be the tier 10 german light. Rhmpzw or something, and whatever tanks there were in it’s tech tree line
solid gate
Hey! How are wz blaze price in gold? But shmasher? But scavenger?
tulip edge
@solid gate I assume you are asking for selling prices? Correct me if I misunderstood.
Wz Blaze is a premium and sells for credits (somewhere around a million I believe)
I believe smasher is 2,500 gold and scavenger is 500
tulip edge
No problem
acoustic pollen
a premium tank sells for credits?
solid gate
Yes and colector sell for gold
tulip edge
All premium tanks (gold colouring) sell for credits.
Collector tanks (blue colouring) sell for gold, and the amount differs depending on tier
gentle wasp
Scavenger is 250 gold, Smasher is 2500. Blaze sells for 1 million credits
acoustic pollen
huh i dont see tanks for credits weird
tulip edge
What do you mean?
tulip edge
My mind always mistakes tier 5s for 500
topaz summit
Not that you can buy them with credit but when YOU sell the tank you get credits for premium and gold for collectors
honest delta
Guys, how much costs M4/FL10 to be sold with?
gentle wasp
Check the link above @honest delta
honest delta
oh, didn't mentioned that, thx
neat nimbus
i wish there's non exclusive realistic attachaments
plucky summit
IS-7 do kinda got a MG tho
lost tree
Imagine if that MG was accessible as a secondary weapon and would just shred mediums and lights
viral falcon
That Mg would only be capable to damage a sheridan's side at point blank angle. 26 mm penetration under 100 metres.
wise moth
@viral falcon Yeah, but this is Blitz where the M2 browning can pen 41mm of armor
viral falcon
Referring to T7 car? I totally forgot about that:'D
wise moth
Yah
And the Light VIC has the same pen, and that thing uses an even tinier MG, not even a 50 cal, it’s MG is chambered in 7.92mm mauser lol (so basically the same round as the Kar 98 rifle)
viral falcon
You've got a point, I didn't consider low tier mg carriers.
wise moth
Anything is possible in Blitz land
viral falcon
Btw, doesn't the Light VI c boast a 15 mm Mg?
I think there was an AA vehicle with 7.92's on a VIc chassis.
lost tree
Let’s add an 8 barreled 50 cal machine gun on a 500mm armored box shaped tank and it must have 1000mm of pen and 1000 rate of fire
Sounds like an amazing idea right?
wise moth
@viral falcon It’s the BESA machine gun, although I checked, and I guess you are right, the Blitz Light VIC uses the 15mm version, not the 7.92
plucky summit
Yoooo drawing tank combos now :p
Gun, turret, and hull and I'll whip up whatever you wanted to curse me with
viral falcon
I see. Yes, irl i remembered BESA too. But I just kept thinking i remember that certain AA of which name i don't remember, that had 4 coaxial 7.92.
Sooo... Should we suggest random tank pieces that you'll bash together?:D
If so, then Sheridan chassis, E100 turret and T7 car gun. @plucky summit
plucky summit
can... it fit?
wise moth
Well, the real life M2 can pen ~22mm of armor, and the real life IS-7 AA machine gun can pen ~32mm, so if we scale it by Blitz stats, the IS-7 MG would have ~61mm of pen. That actually ain’t too shabby
plucky summit
heh, just use HE
viral falcon
The IS-7 has a bigger than 12.7mm Mg, right?
wise moth
Well, if we say it does 12 damage like the .50 cal, at a historical 600 RPM, you could have 7200 DPM against people XD
@viral falcon 14.5mm
viral falcon
Thanks!
wise moth
Basically against lightly armored tanks, a usable IS-7 MG would pretty much do this
kindred wren
Uhm... Could we rather not?
slender perch
Obj 705A ❤️
rotund kettle
Icetank43
potent tinsel
obj 705a would be nice
solid gate
I want batchat bourrasque. I wanna see how an auto loader with 2s interclip can work out xd
potent tinsel
is 3 and is 5 should get a buff. Is s especially, as its just a larger is 3 with a worse gun
solid gate
I think people even stopped using is3 due to people spamming 252u and is5 cause it's cheap.
covert dagger
The BT-7 art. has a glitch. I can’t switch to the AP, even though it says I have them in my ammo load out.
hollow moth
Yes, buff ATGM, give those stats for them:
-Increase speed to 700m per second
-Increase penetration by 7mm
-For missile, decrease base aim time to 2.59 and base dispersion to 0.403
-Decrease the curve to 0
-Change the reticle for a normal one
solid gate
there is no aiming time and dispersion for ATGM
fast compass
That is the point...
Just make it into regular heat.
hollow notch
Jokes are funnier when explained
haughty forge
woah, jagdtiger has 1500+ shell velocity with super chage
keen escarp
I wonder when Helsing is coming?
hollow moth
It's the tank that I mostly want, I'm saving a lot of money for it@keen escarp
It WILL appear on October as a loot box, and may appear with a high price on christmass auction
There was a Fury costing 25.000 gold last year and an AMX 30 B costing 10.000
Good old times
tulip edge
@potent tinsel It would help if you were specific with what characteristics you wanted buffed.
IS-3 is fine how it is right now honestly
keen escarp
@hollow moth ok
haughty forge
@stray cedar are u interested in big chonky clip dmg?
stray cedar
Yuh
haughty forge
@stray cedar There is fv4005 with biggest clip dmg
stray cedar
Ye ik about that. Seems like a weird playstyle tho. Always just he it to death. It's like a fridge with tracks.
fast compass
4005 is the hardest among the 3 big clippers in tier 10
stray cedar
Ye. Probably not for me cause im baaaf.
haughty forge
also, it is pretty expensive to play
stray cedar
Ik how to angle shi cause heavies teach you side scraping and such. Learning the "You have no armor cause your not a Maus" playstyle rn.
One of my favorite T10s rn is Maus. Love bullying tanks. Also Mk6 is great for hull down dpm.
I just don't wanna get a T10 and hate it. I hated the P43 ter.
haughty forge
ehhh , t10 clippers cant sidescrape , 50b- u get baguetted to sides and rear but u have stronk front hull armor bud not rly good turret, t57 heavy - no armor on front but also not heable from sides(hard to do so), batchat is just meh now , 4005 - barn that punishes hard with decent pen and gets punished hard ( enormously big turret)
stray cedar
Hated the stock pantera.
So whats the best medium??? The chinese one?
I just like the thought of dumping 1100 damage in 6 seconds with the progettos clip then dipping.
haughty forge
would not say there is best , there is different playstyle mediums
stray cedar
So whats the easiest to use? Something that a heavy main can learn mediums w?
haughty forge
i would say t62a and e50m
stray cedar
Alr. Good armor, decent alpha?
haughty forge
350 alpha on both @stray cedar , good turret armor on 62a and troll hull , not very good turret armor on e50m and amazing front armor
stray cedar
Gone against these tanks b4 but the tanks i run in t10 don't have problems w pen lol.
Any T10s i should avoid?
tulip edge
@stray cedar If you want to continue a sort of heavy playstyle you’ll probably like the E50 M line. The line is all about using your frontal armour to bully people, the turret on the E50 M can hold up nicely.
If we are talking best mediums, you are looking at things like the STB-1, but its line isn’t that good, though the mid tier mediums are getting buffs.
If you are looking for something more competitive and actually good, then do not go for the deathstar. The tank has a fun factor of destroying peoples HP, but the tank itself is bad and its line is also mediocre.
If you are a newer player, you’d probably also want to avoid the object 263 line. The modules are pretty expensive and the 263 isn’t that good right now.
still hill
What about WZ 121 ? How to play it ?
azure creek
i want rev and lowe bundle in a f shop
robust crescent
Will the non derp guns get me more xp in the su-152?
shell forum
Yes. But it's less fun
raven spade
Is the Way blaze worth the grinding, cuz it's armour is dope ..
hollow moth
Not only the armor@raven spade
It only have an average speed for a tank with any protection
The gun is basically an IS gun, 175mm pen (nothing too high, since all 122mm cannons have this or more pen at this tier)
Worst view range if the tier 7
Performs really bad
Etc
robust crescent
Wow
hollow moth
Oh yes, that that turret is fake, it only turns 40 degrees
shell forum
So blaze bad...
hollow moth
There is only 3 points to grind for it:
If you don't have any other Tier 7 premium
If you really hate loot boxes because they are a degeneration of the modern games
If you are a collector
solid gate
Lol, I sold some unused collector tank to reach exactly 750 gold, used the key, and i got lucky
shell forum
...
I'll dug my own grave
raven spade
Plz stop harassing people who waste tons of gold and get nothing but boosters....
solid gate
Now I have again zero gold
hollow moth
Ah people love to show when they get the rare luck of getting something cool from loot box
Because it's a bet, nothing against than bets
solid gate
Yeah, I remember when using ads every single day, and some light shopping, I had 9000 gold, perfectly wasted on Smasher crates and got nothing but boosters
Guess luck wheel turns around every now and then
shell forum
I already know my luck: -100.
Been having bad matches
lost tree
Is it a 100% chance to get a tank from the lockbox or can there be other things in it
gentle wasp
4% to get the Smasher
lost tree
That’s it that’s the only thing in it
gentle wasp
No there are certificates for other tanks and such. Details should be in the news.
lost tree
Well I got one and didn’t get a smasher so time to try again
sacred trail
Is the KV-1’s upgraded gun (HE and HEAT only) better than the base one?
gentle wasp
No
lyric oriole
It used to arguably be better once upon a time but now it's just a sad weapon that exists.
shell forum
A pale shadow of its former glory
hexed skiff
OMG
shell forum
Another one?
shell forum
Grats but I can see the writing on the walls for all med/light users. The influx of smasher will be a painful one for us
gentle wasp
^^^
lyric oriole
Wargaming is trolling the players who get Blaze
haughty forge
i got smasher too,
kind bluff
Lowkey if it had free exp certificates I’m fine with it
I’m curious for when I get the legendary certificate which is what 300k free exp? XD
gentle wasp
Common Free Exp certificate: 200xp
Rare Free exp certificate: 2300xp (+300xp)
Epic Free Exp certificate: 28'000xp (+5000xp)
Legendary Free Exp Certificate: 350'000xp (+70'000xp)
@kind bluff
lost tree
I want the smasher so badly but I am one crate in and didn’t get it so I’ll try again
hushed shadow
That’s how the crates work. You don’t get it a few times but you still have hope and try again and again for it, even though there’s no guarantee for it
real gorge
😄
sharp siren
Bruh gg
shell forum
Holy... Another bug repellant
plush bobcat
Kp or k91?
gentle wasp
K-91
topaz summit
Any unofficial google docs out there with all the tanks and stats on them? (Or most) Not looking to recreate the wheel..
gentle wasp
Any specific stats you are looking for or all of them @topaz summit
real gorge
Give me tips on the Skorpion G
shell forum
Uh... From the victim POV, camp bush and snipe. Nothing slap fear to the medium/light than a random Scorpion round slamming to the hull during a CQC
lyric oriole
@real gorge second line, use your mobility to reposition yourself frequently, it's also a great medium support
real gorge
Thank you two!!! I’m super excited to use the tank and I will absolutely use your guys advice🙏👌
restive ravine
Su-100y or wz blaze 🤔 ?
surreal silo
Do someone notices that, when you upgrade your car the game becomes harder?
lyric oriole
It doesn't
@restive ravine SU-100Y, I don't remember if you saw my synopsis of the Blaze yesterday but don't get it
surreal silo
It doesn't
@lyric oriole idk it happens to me
restive ravine
@restive ravine SU-100Y, I don't remember if you saw my synopsis of the Blaze yesterday but don't get it
@lyric oriole nop didn't see, but ok haha thank you
@lyric oriole idk it happens to me
@surreal silo nop it's the opposite 🤔 in general, hard at the start, normal after full upgrade
surreal silo
@surreal silo nop it's the opposite 🤔 in general, hard at the start, normal after full upgrade
@restive ravine well, when my car was " I " The game was easy, now i have an IV and i lose everytime
lyric oriole
Are you talking about it getting harder at higher tiers?
shell forum
utterly confused at the mention of car
surreal silo
utterly confused at the mention of car
@shell forum Sorry i don´t speak english
shell forum
Uh... I assume you are referring to tank tiers which is true. Higher tier required more skill than lower tier. Module upgrade will make your tank more effective at fighting
surreal silo
Uh... I assume you are referring to tank tiers which is true. Higher tier required more skill than lower tier. Module upgrade will make your tank more effective at fighting
@shell forum Ok thanks
restive ravine
@restive ravine well, when my car was " I " The game was easy, now i have an IV and i lose everytime
@surreal silo ah you say about the tier tank, that's totally normal, tier 7 it's the hardest I think 🤷
real gorge
WZ Blaze with 175 pen?! Come onnnn
sullen willow
Hello everyone, can you tell me when and where WoT Blitz announced the arrival of the new European tanks please?
Thank you.
shell forum
I mean that's standard T-44 pen so 175mm is nothing new lol
real gorge
T44 has great armor though it has a lot going for it other than it’s gun
shell forum
I'm certain the WZ is using that T-44 122mm gun (as you can tell, i don't run that med with the 122, I use the 100mm LB-1)
real gorge
I agree. Just like the 122 on the t34-2, it’s just not efficient, although the t-34-2’s 122 mm gun is the only gun I’ve got 7 kills with @shell forum
shell forum
You're suppose to use the 122 in the T-34-2, that's what it for. The 122 in the T-44 is questionable (but occasionally effective to some)
lyric oriole
Works for me, but I wouldn't advise most people to use it
real gorge
It’s cool to switch it up and have 400 alpha, but I prefer the dpm and accuracy a bit more
I really was not a fan of the t-34-2, I hope the wz-120 is more enjoyable
shell forum
What about pen vs dpm? The age old T-54 top guns debate
wise moth
DPM. Always DPM
real gorge
What do you prefer? I feel like the t54s top two guns are so similar, I haven’t played that tank before though so I don’t know how each one plays
shell forum
Bad news: WZ-120 has three degree of gun depression. Easily the worst of the Chinese medium (source uncited)
wise moth
@real gorge I run the DPM gun with gun rammer. Sucks against E-100s, but great for everything else, especially tier VIIIs
shell forum
And the T-54 comments: if you play both you will notice the DPM differences. I used to run the higher pen but as of late I run the DPM one (I know one is the D54, forgot which style it was. Forgot the other one completely)
wise moth
D54 is the pen gun, D10T2C is the DPM gun
shell forum
Thx.
tardy yacht
Pls nerf Smasher
real gorge
And you guys prefer the pen? I would as well, because you can always try to find weak spots and/or switch to premium shells
wise moth
I prefer the DPM gun
shell forum
DPM. I been putting the mobility to work more. T-54 is more light tank than T-62A funny enough
real gorge
I would love to grind out the line and get the t54, definitely one of the most well-known tanks this game has. An all around classic vehicle
wise moth
It’s less classic now than it used to be. Back in the day, T-54 was THE meta, same stats as it has now, but the HEAT had 330mm pen, and the turret was much, much stronger. And back in the day, HEAT did the same damage as AP, AND T-54 could meet tier 7’s
real gorge
OH I remember that! Man how the times have changed! Also crazy to think right now the IS-7 premium shells only have like 303 mm of pen..:
shell forum
Well theT-54 was a UFO if you are old enough to know that reference
real gorge
I would like to know if you could tell me 😀
hexed skiff
Bruh I accidentally bought kpfPz 70😭😭😭😭
shell forum
Did you played a match in it?
topaz summit
@gentle wasp all..I may compile one with the tanks I own but was hoping one is out there with all.. I know the driver makes the tank but I’m a spreadsheet junkie.
hexed skiff
@shell forum 1
shell forum
RIP. No refund is possible...
hollow moth
Relax, it isn't a bad tank, play it as a medium and everything will go ok@hexed skiff
shell forum
Well that's true... It get pretty annoying when one of those backed the med and we are force to scramble to cover...
tulip edge
@sullen willow Wargaming originally revealed them during one of their streams, can’t remember specifically which one.
They later confirmed the tree in #coming-soon
undone yew
are the chinese tds really that bad or are they just not played enough
plucky summit
They don't fit in with the meta
lyric oriole
They're eh
I've have good games in them but that doesn't mean anything. Still takes the worst traits from Obj. 268 and T110E3 and mashes them into one tank
plucky summit
Tank drawing time
next solstice
the consumables are nice tho
viral falcon
Chinese TDs are kind of like the M48 patton. They are decent, VERY decent, just not that special to fit in the current meta.
elfin marten
Found a pretty nice tank that could be a American tier 10 premium medium tank. Prototype tank of M1A1 abrams.
I mean, the AMX 30b is technically an MBT, so is the m60...
plush bobcat
Gg bois
solid gate
They don’t have next gen ammunition nor armor though
elfin marten
Nah, but it does have hesh...
plush bobcat
I got smasher for 5 bucks
solid gate
That’s not even a relevant round @elfin marten
elfin marten
...
solid gate
M1 has access to much modern APDS and APFSDS not to mention You probably didn’t even read the stats on the side did you
elfin marten
I did
solid gate
Then why are you suggesting it even though it can’t fit
elfin marten
I don’t know, people keep wanting modern tanks so, this is the closest. From 1976
tepid smelt
@elfin marten if u want mbts go play aw
solid gate
I have no idea who’s been wanting modern tanks XM1 is entirely a different generation
elfin marten
I’m just saying, sheridan was designed in 1967...
solid gate
Sheridans not even an mbt and has nothing special to exclude it from being added your point?
elfin marten
How modern atgms r...
solid gate
It’s missile was known for being a failure lol
elfin marten
I mean, armor isn’t a failure...
solid gate
Did it have armor? No it was only immune to small arms fire
elfin marten
I meant xm1
solid gate
Right ignore that it clearly says xm1 has composite armor
elfin marten
Remove that and there you go
M60 ambt prob has that, wot blitz removed that armor and made it reg m60
solid gate
It didn’t have it and removing the armor you just pull a kpz 70 on it and stuff it in a place it doesn’t belong
elfin marten
A kpz 70 could be at tier 10
solid gate
And it’s at tier 9 where it doesn’t belong just like how xm1 is clearly tier 11 worthy if it was ever to be added not tier 10
elfin marten
It doesn’t need that much armor, WG needs to balance it and turn it into a reskinned m60
solid gate
Yet it’s not even an m60 which you don’t understand somehow
elfin marten
I never said it was 1, I said they could balance it to where the xm-1 could be like the m60
solid gate
Then you just made a carbon clone bravo
elfin marten
Panzer 58 and Indian panzer, not that much of a difference
solid gate
Yeah neither are driven
tulip sail
Even if you get rid of them xm1's Armour you still have the issues of being overly mobile as well as having too much pen do to too modern ammo and the tank itself is too modern
elfin marten
It has same ammo layout as the fv4002, the xm1 only went 72 km/h but can be nerffed by WG
solid gate
Your just using the kpz 70 strat at this point also no it’s gun is modified to accept better ammo 4202* doesn’t have the gun realistically and going by that logic all the other L7 tanks should have 4202s ammo aswell
tulip sail
Also the panzer 58 has significantly better mobility and Armour than the Indian panzer
solid gate
I really don’t understand why players want to butcher tanks just to fit in a tier they don’t belong
tulip sail
plucky summit
rip indien panzer
solid gate
That’s because they’re game breaking and are easy to abuse it’s entirely different then failing to suggest a tank
elfin marten
I’m not failing to suggest a tank, you just don’t agree that it should be added
Others might agree that it should be added, compared to super conqueror
There is a reason why WG adds weak spots on tanks.... For example, if the is4 had no weak spots, then it would be op
plucky summit
I want tech tree tier 10s :p
solid gate
^^^ s conq turned out to be mediocre and I’m pretty sure everyone does not like the T9-T10 premiums
elfin marten
I’m not so sure about that...
solid gate
The T9-T10 prems allowed anyone to get to high tier which caused games to be more ruined than usual so
tulip sail
No one should be able to play 2 games and immediately buy into t10
solid gate
And the kpz 70 is not well received people only like it for its looks majority of players dislike it overall
hollow notch
My tier 10 premium allows me to credit grind where credit grinding isnt supposed to happen
plucky summit
You don't have to have a tier 10 credit grinder
elfin marten
It’s supposed to happen, then y do tanks cost credits? Prob not in tier 10 though. It’s a tier for fun and disappointment....
hollow notch
I love my kpz 70. It makes me play better by forcing me to reset my camo and relocate after every shot
plucky summit
sucker hulldown for tier 8s
hollow notch
Who me? I love my prog 46 too
plucky summit
Lowe :3
tulip sail
Most t10s have lowe credit coefficients
elfin marten
Low or Lowe?
tulip sail
Its a pun
elfin marten
Ah
plucky summit
Love the Lowe
hollow notch
Lovve
lyric oriole
All 3 of your names are blending together between the Blue color, the 7s, and the "Chi" at the beginning of 2 of your names
plucky summit
It's at that certain height, where it can hulldown sidescrape with rubble
@lyric oriole tell no one 🔫
tulip sail
Just know me as the m4 guy
elfin marten
Still it could be tank that is added, no one knows if they gonna add more atgm tanks... maybe tds with atgms, it would cause people to quit the game...
tulip sail
It's very unlikely there more likely to add something like the M-60 or the SO-122
solid gate
Just incase
plucky summit
rip ATGMs, at least they're only annoying when peeking over now
elfin marten
M60 is already added
tulip sail
Yes it is but not the M-60
elfin marten
M60a2 would prob never be added unless, WG tries to ruin more attitudes...
M60a2 has atgms, M60 is just without
tulip sail
Thats a completely different tank than what I suggested
elfin marten
That’s what came up when I searched on google
Tell me the website with that that ur talking about
alpine notch
How about these?
elfin marten
Name?
tulip sail
This is an M-60
alpine notch
RO2004 Light Tank and '84 Chimera Tank Destroyer @elfin marten
And those two are Brits
solid gate
hollow notch
^ only acceptable version of the t92 for blitz
solid gate
THIS is a T92E1. Not the abort they put on Blitz. Remove the 152 mm with ATGM to that tank
The E1 is fictional
Kpfpz 70 with missiles isn't. But I still don't see ATGM on it
alpine notch
75-76mm's in Tier 8 is too epic-
@solid gate That MBT-70 to you, KPz doesnt have one despite having 152mm gun
solid gate
Both were capable of fire Germany disliked the missile
alpine notch
It should have been 105-120mm instead :v
solid gate
Since the T92E1 is fictional, details about Kpfpz/MBT 70 are nothing. WG did much worse, historically talking
@alpine notch l44 wasn’t mounted or tested only drawn up
alpine notch
Yeah, too bad its not there in real life... only at drawings. I can only imagine...
solid gate
The L44 was drawn on further kpz 70 concepts
alpine notch
I would still go for RO2004 or '84 Chimera TD for the game, i think.. either premiums or tech tree alternatives..
plucky summit
Anyone want me to draw them a tank?
Freestyle: Give the type, tier, and maybe a name for your tank and I draw whatever seems... fine
Combo: Give the gun/caliber, the turret if any, and the hull of a tank you want to see (make sure it's in Blitz, or maybe Jap Heavy)
elfin marten
Russian Heavy tank in tier 9 named t-157 styka. Gun: 130mm s-70. Front-Turreted, IS-4 hull
plucky summit
ok then
plucky summit
So I create the turret?
elfin marten
Yes
Any turret that looks Soviet and try to make it have like an cool attachment or something
Stalin would be proud... if there was an option to switch to the bl-10 152mm gun as the non stock...
plucky summit
I'm confused now :p
elfin marten
Just use 130 mm gun with is 4 hull and side plates like t2020
plucky summit
k
elfin marten
On the bright side, I found the ugliest looking m4 Sherman that is the king of all American derps...
elfin marten
Lol, t31 had 2 7.2 inch or 182.88mm rocket launchers
tulip sail
It was also a complete failure
tulip sail
The loading mechanism froze and couldn't be repaired after a full disassembly
elfin marten
Lol, all imposing m4s were a failure except the calliope
tulip sail
No not really
elfin marten
The ones that I mentioned r
tulip sail
The t33 worked really well
elfin marten
I mean, it’s a flame thrower with the other gun, not 2 rocket launchers and 1 dummy 105 gun...
tulip sail
Flame tanks where known to cause people to give up and surrender without even being needed to be directly used on that bunker
elfin marten
I know, lots of tanks had flame thrower variations
tulip sail
Yes and and getting someone to surrender just by showing them your weapon would seem its pretty imposing
slow iron
After 2 years of playing WoT BLITZ i finally have my first Tier X tank
T110E5
Im generally nit the best at the game with 47% winrate
I loved playing on M103 and was quite good with it with 2.5k damage per round usually on it
Although im not really as good on T110E5
I kinda thought that it will be a direct upgrade (kind of)
And its not really the metter of transposing to T10 because on T9 i already was matched rather usually with mostly T10's
Anyway, any tips to get better at T110E5?
plucky summit
Hulldown spam
hexed skiff
2.1 k damage average on smasher LOL
plucky summit
@elfin marten you’ll have to ignore all the Wite-Out because I did two big boy mistakes
slow iron
Hulldown spam
what is a Hulldown Spam?
plucky summit
Finding a way to hide the hull of your tank and showing only the turret, spam meaning do it whenever you can
slow iron
Ah, alright, just like on T32
plucky summit
Yup
slow iron
Thank you for the tip, i will try to apply it
plucky summit
@elfin marten here ya go 😅
Np @slow iron
Turret lookin like a secret project :/
@elfin marten did you have a stronk?
elfin marten
Using photoshop rn
elder saddle
The front of that tonk be looking like a amx, and the back like a K91
elfin marten
Still working on side-plating
elder saddle
but better than anything that i can do nonetheless
elfin marten
Photoshop will be done in 30 mins...
elder saddle
ehh?
oh yeah, has anyone here ever ammoracked a Maus before?
when you immediately get 'legendary dmg dealt' medal
tired apex
Which tank is better the kv3 or the IS
elder saddle
The Kv-3 is better in terms of armour, but the IS is much faster
Depends on your kind of playstyle, as both have pretty much the same guns anyway
elder saddle
they have the same guns
so choose the tank that you are more accustomed to, the faster IS or the better armoured KV-3
tired apex
Idk I've used the kv-1s and so which tank is that one closer to
elder saddle
Thats closer to the IS
tired apex
Ok
elder saddle
The KV-2 is closer to the KV-3
tired apex
Ight thanks man
next solstice
i want my t150 back smh
stark bronze
What abaut they give we back the TD tier 2-3 ??
elfin marten
ChickenMan7777[VIPRS], this is my photoshopped version of the T-157 Styka
He’s prob offline by now... Luvly
stark bronze
Lol T-157 where you get it ??
elfin marten
Fictional
Scroll up and see my request for ChickenMan7777[VIPRS] to do a drawing version
ChickenMan7777[VIPRS]: Anyone want me to draw them a tank?
Freestyle: Give the type, tier, and maybe a name for your tank and I draw whatever seems... fine
Combo: Give the gun/caliber, the turret if any, and the hull of a tank you want to see (make sure it's in Blitz, or maybe Jap Heavy)
My request: Russian Heavy tank in tier 9 named t-157 styka. Gun: 130mm s-70. Front-Turreted, IS-4 hull
strange thicket
What abaut they give we back the TD tier 2-3 ??
@stark bronze no
why do you even play tier 2-3
storm apex
SU-100 100mm is actually so much better than the 122mm
acoustic pollen
ChickenMan7777[VIPRS], this is my photoshopped version of the T-157 Styka
@elfin marten ugh i waaant it
stark bronze
Btw how much power of front armor in T157 ??
elfin marten
Same as the IS-4. The Whole tank would be OP if it was in the game
Same gun as IS-7
If the year 2020 was good, it would probably be a better version of the T-2020
sharp siren
that joke was already used
elfin marten
Yep
storm apex
♻️
elfin marten
🤒😇
plucky summit
@elfin marten nice, exactly an hour late 😈
@next solstice buy it back if you have the gold...
But Ima go now
elfin marten
Lol
next solstice
@plucky summit EXCEPT IM BROKE
tulip sail
Save up in free ads
plucky summit
Yeh
stray cedar
Got this for free lol.
Also what do i use on standard b for the autoloader? Cali or rammer?
240mm base pen seems pretty nice.... goes to 252mm on apcr
inland osprey
I run calibrated shells, seems to work pretty well for me
stray cedar
The shell reload is so much longer then the pantera...
inland osprey
On the upside, you get more alpha with very good HE pen
lost tree
@stray cedar mocking me >:(
stray cedar
? Lol wut@lost tree
lost tree
Cuz I want the smasher n gravedigger badly lol
stray cedar
O. Gravedigger is fun. Its like an uzi as a tank. Just sprays.
lost tree
Smasher is more fun though
Smasher > grave digger because smasher is a absolute monster
stray cedar
Lel. Haven't gotten any one shots yet.
lost tree
It’s so good and I love it so much I have only opened1 crate so far but I hope to open more
static token
@stray cedar calli, it increases the he pen too
116 mm is what you get with calli shells
stray cedar
Thx
static token
np
solid gate
smasher key worth?
static token
do you have a blaze?
stray cedar
@solid gate got mine from the key. Don't care about Blaze tbh.
broken turtle
most mediums are not medium
zealous violet
How tf did you got smasher for free???
untold iron
Crates
minor mortar
There is a free key in the end of the event
elder saddle
but only 4% tho
static token
considering selling my collector tanks :/
sand herald
I have a question do you guys think that the su-152 is better then the kv-2 or the other way around also regardless of the memes about the kv-2
hollow belfry
The Smasher is better than both regardless of memes
sand herald
Oo thanks for the opinion I will take that at note
static token
92 battles and 2.5 away from the blaze, should i get the key? or stockpile gold and sell the collectors tanks
brisk jacinth
Your opinion of kv 4? Have finally won it now
haughty forge
@static token if u cant get blaze get key, blaze is trash anyway
broken turtle
Your opinion of kv 4? Have finally won it now
@brisk jacinth good
hollow belfry
It has better side armor than a Tiger II but is roughly worse in every single other way @brisk jacinth
hard nexus
the gun is better than the kv4, mobility and thats pretty much it
hollow belfry
The frontal armor on the KV-4 being better is a debatable fact though
brisk jacinth
Where is the armor best for kv 4?
nocturne tiger
I heard Chaffee is best Credit Grinder, yes or no?
tulip sail
No there are a lot better ones like the lowe angry connor super persh
(I don't recommend getting the super persh for credit grindingots Armour is only noob proof)
nocturne tiger
they're premium though
tulip sail
You didn't specify
plush bobcat
Sigh apprently i got disconnected from the server
opal owl
Imagine giving ARL drones but not fixing the server lag
tulip edge
@nocturne tiger For a free to play player at tier 6, yes.
I believe it has the highest credit coefficient out of any tech tree tier 6 tanks, and its repair costs are on the lower end, so it’s a solid choice for credits at tier 6 if you’re F2P.
@brisk jacinth KV-4 got a frontal armour buff to the hull, but people can still load gold and go through the lower plate or the mid plate.
The top of the turret is a weakness but can be trollish to lower caliber guns and bounce things, but it’s not reliable.
limber sonnet
What is the camo of arl 44 in the video?
Arl 44 defender?
And when will amx m4 54 line arrive in the game?
fast compass
Tbh we know just as much as you do.
Idk about the arl, m4 54 line is not confirmed. Just the tank, it could be a collector for the Christmas event. If it is a line, then we can't expect it any sooner than next year
limber sonnet
I think if it is a line it will arrive in this year because if Kranvagn ligne arrive in the 7.3 so we will have 7 where there will not have new tech tree tank
So I think amx m4 54 in the 7.7 to 7.9
solid gate
Till december is enough time for another line. But if only wg arrives the Kranvagn line in 7.3
final adder
because wargaming seems to be a mood for new light tanks going into the game. Russian light tanks? with Obj 906 at tier 10 or mod'd version of 906
limber sonnet
Or Also chineuse light tanks
final adder
yea
limber sonnet
Or manticore thé t10 English lt of wot PC
final adder
we already have brittish so most likely we wont get two, unless its france, then all the lights
limber sonnet
But Russian light tank is t100 lt, is not?
final adder
it is, t100s selling point is speed and view range but we already have whats gonna be the highest in the game, so why have second, other than that t-100lt has good alpha but a pretty derpy gun overall, that and they dont want to just copy tanks over from wot pc if they can. Hence why we didnt get manticore.
tulip edge
@limber sonnet Not a defender series.
We don’t know specifically, but it seems its the same sort of deal they did with the KV-1S and Thunder.
limber sonnet
Ok
Wot blitz also announced that a new Russian branch will arrive next year
Which one?
viral lodge
The only things ive heard announced are the Kranvagn line and the prem/collector tanks in testing.
limber sonnet
ST-II , obj 705 A t100 lt k91, obj 268 ?
viral lodge
Isnt that the doubleshot?
limber sonnet
An Spanish YT told this
tulip edge
Double barrel tanks? Not sure about that
viral lodge
I have seen no tell of this, at all. I doubt its accurate.
limber sonnet
Yes St-II double barrel.
tulip edge
Also, object 268 is already in the game
viral lodge
K-91 is also in game
limber sonnet
Sry obj 277
viral lodge
Frankly I dont want more russian lines, Id prefer stuff like german lights, or more stuff in the other nations.
limber sonnet
Me too
Like tvp or 60 tp
Which will be the Finland tanks on the European nation?
solid gate
Btw is it true that wargaming will be selling a buffed arl?
viral lodge
There is an ARL like the thunder to KV-1S but Im unsure if the stats for it are known or not.
tulip edge
Stats for it aren’t known yet, @solid gate if Wargaming follow the previous battle pass with the Thunder, then the Battle Pass ARL will likely have slightly improved characteristics over the tech tree ARL, plus the unique look.
solid gate
Ah ok so a new tourny boss will come along
orchid nymph
i want chinese lights
haughty forge
@orchid nymph they did not exist irl
solid gate
How about a swedish nation tank line?
hushed shadow
They have one, the Kranvagn line. Not known when they’ll add it, but it seems it’ll be the last line released this year.
hexed skiff
Should I sell gravedigger
lost tree
No
hexed skiff
Why
regal mist
Apparently they have a new soviet line too, disclosed in one of their livestreams
viral lodge
Until I see more proof im just going to not believe that for now. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip sail
Is the hafen actually a good tank? I always thought lowly of it but decided to play it a bit and I've been getting really good results
haughty forge
@regal mist proof?
regal mist
Lol they said it in a stream on youtube, i aint gonna waste my time watching 30mins streams to provide proof lol.
haughty forge
@regal mist then no one believes
regal mist
Wot blitz also announced that a new Russian branch will arrive next year
@limber sonnet
This guy also said it so, I dont care if u believe me or not @haughty forge
haughty forge
@regal mist at least send link to that stream
regal mist
I dont remember but i think it was the skirmish mode or birthday stream
Someone asked whether there was any new tech tree lines coming after the swedish ones in the chat.
haughty forge
i watched birthday stream, there was nothing, also, birthday stream was full of spam
regal mist
Like i said i dont remember, lol it could just be the mandela effect
modern ibex
It was on the independence event stream by droodles
haughty forge
@modern ibex Proof?
modern ibex
Im a moderator for droodles, i remember stuff lol
haughty forge
ok proof plz
haughty forge
👍
hollow notch
So many people talking about how the blaze sucks. It's such a great platform for a 122. Yall lied to me
trim lily
i would keep sheri and the t92 but remove the missiles replace it with normal heat or apcr rounds
elfin marten
Yes. Replace the t92e1 with the t92 that has the 105 or make it a tier 9 t49 and add the t92 in tier 8. Also add the m60a2 with atgms that should branch off the t92 or m46 Patton. I believe that atgm tanks should only be in tier 10.
solid gate
watch out for KV-2s
feral mortar
that is it?
elfin marten
Play it like t37
American Light tank line should go like this: tier 6 Chaffee, tier 7 m41 bulldog, tier 8 t92 with stock 105 gun, tier 9 t49, and tier 10 Sheridan and tier 10 m60a2 medium tank
solid gate
Hi
what is better E100 or MAUS?
We don’t need another m60
I agree. We need the Challenger I
elfin marten
Y not another m60?
solid gate
No one wants the missiles and frankly not another derp gun at tier 10
yes
what is better? E100 or MAUS?
E1000
ok
i get E100, i have TIGER II
elfin marten
But I do believe that the t92 should be a tier 8 with 105 mm gun and make the t49 a tier 9 just like in pc
solid gate
That’s a terrible idea
solid gate
T92 nor t49 Dont belong in Tier 9 it only works on PC because it’s ammo rolls up to 700-1000+
elfin marten
Then they could balance it
solid gate
You can’t balance it.
T49 lacks penetration and any tier 9 medium let alone tier 10 medium will eat it alive
river garden
yeah
tulip edge
@solid gate Maus is better, but E100 is a solid tank, and if you are at the Tiger II, you might as well continue down the line as it’s a good line to go down.
lost tree
I hate the tiger II so much
modern mica
why i can get a tank from huge container. i play wotblitz before my friend and he already get a tank from the huge container i been open huge container for 1 year and i still can not get a tank from the huge container
viral lodge
RNG
modern mica
? wdym
shell forum
I got beginner luck of a T-25 and never got a tank from container again
tulip edge
@modern mica Unfortunately thats crates for you.
It’s random luck, and the chances are small
mighty arch
Which tank should I buy the
Is8
Or
Obj 704
solid gate
704
keen otter
bounce bounce bounce
solid gate
pro skillz
shell forum
Why so cloudy?
lost tree
He’s playing on a fog machine obviously
hollow moth
It's not cloudy, it's because that's an effect of a bounce/blocked shot
Haven't you notice that the screen gets red when you take damage? It's the same effect@shell forum
restive crystal
War gaming's new tank leak
fickle perch
Lol
hollow moth
How much time you took to discover than this part of Lupus isn't a cosmetic? Took me 3 years to discover
wise moth
I knew immediately because I checked armor inspector so I could debate people lol
kindred wren
I knew it from the start, but it's a pain to hit
fervent sand
I can hit that!?
shell forum
Nope, never saw that happened
Play on minimum everything so that might be why
thick trout
Shhhh keep it quiet let me stat pad a bit more in my lupus against people who don't have a clue where to aim 🤫
tacit orbit
Imagine arguing in Blitz
wise moth
@fervent sand You can. It's kinda hard to hit, but if he's dumb enough to sit still, you can pen it
keen escarp
I am so ready for 7.2
hexed coral
hello people somewhat new player here any tips on which vehicles you could give me i just upgraded from the m5 to i think the m8a1
would it be worth it to continue on this route or change and start completely over
fervent sand
is there any play style that you have liked so far? (Like rushing around the enemy, staying back from the combat ect)?
thick trout
It's not the easiest line to play so I would suggest going russian or German heavies and taking it nice and slow through the tiers @hexed coral
It's still good to build up several tech trees at once though, but quite hard on credits
elfin marten
If WG didn’t use the American tech tree for atgms would other countries be better or no different? Example: instead of t92e1 and Sheridan, WG adds BPM 1 and BPM-2
solid gate
Those two dont have proper cannons so
elfin marten
But they still have that atgm light tank feel
It’s fast, no armor and has atgms. Just they don’t have speed armor...
solid gate
They really don’t t92E1 atleast has a proper gun to defend itself the BMPS* only have auto cannons
elfin marten
Some bmps have atgms instead of proper cannons.
solid gate
That’s the point.
elfin marten
It could still be added with the removal of all other atgm light tanks right?
They could add a premium fictional bmp that has turret in hybrid nation?
hexed coral
@thick trout im more of an aggressive player with the m3 tank i can get 2-4 kills a game and easily over 1.4k damage
eternal salmon
thick trout
It might be worth going for russian meds then, the American low tier meds are decent (from what I can remember) but the high tier ones arent great. Basically I would say try to get a wide variety of experience and then keep grinding the lines you find fun for now @hexed coral
hexed coral
so just get a bunch of different tanks? and right now should i be worrying about getting a tier X tank or just go for a few tier 7-8?
thick trout
I would definitely say take your time and don't rush to tier 10, it's so much nicer to feel comfortable with strategies and different skills you will learn instead of just rushing up the tiers, I don't think I got my first tier 10 until maybe 10k games because I just went through several tech trees at once and getting used to everything along the way
elfin marten
Same. I only have 3 tier 10s and have 17k battles and 50%
storm apex
I bounced 2/2 shells off the **top **of my SU-100
sterile lark
I want to start grinding for a good light tank because i dont have one lol. what are some good ones?
storm apex
T29, badger, KV2
excellent light tanks right there
all classic speedy vehicles
sterile lark
lmao
elfin marten
The most OP one right now is the vickers line(British) or Sheridan(US) if u want people to complain about the atgms in battles.
elfin marten
No problem
modest barn
Plus, the bulldog is a pretty good tank once you have it fully upgraded
strange thicket
@orchid nymph they did not exist irl
@haughty forge irrelevant
we have something like the VK 72
and t92e1
orchid nymph
exactly
we have a bunch of fantasy tanks and youre worried about a tank line from wot
thorn glacier
^
storm apex
the bulldog is just so annoying if you know how to play it properly
elfin meadow
I love using the auto loader gun on it in realistic. Zoom in behind people who are low, shoot them once or twice, and destroy them. Don’t even know what hit them
strange thicket
i mean the single shot gun does that better
elfin marten
Does a bpm make sense in wot blitz?
keen escarp
Hmm idk
karmic nymph
Dpm misspelled, battles per minute? Idk
elfin marten
BMP-1 or BMP-2?
tulip sail
I don't think they'd fit all that well since they have small caliber auto cannons though the atgm might fit (tho we definitely don't need anymore of those)
elfin marten
What if WG didn’t add US atgm tanks?. What if they added 1 tier 10 atgm light tank:BMP-3, the only BMP that was mass produced that had an atgm as its main armorment. 100mm atgms or regular 100 mm shells...
Better or worse than Sheridan?
mossy wadi
Who wants the ke ni otsu
tulip sail
Neither it would be just as bad and no
mossy wadi
Rarest blitz tanks?
tulip sail
Either the gup firefly or the kv220
mossy wadi
Is the t23e3 nomad rare?
tulip sail
The nomad is just a skin for the t23e3
tulip sail
You can buy it normally
solid gate
Hey guys should I buy the t44 or not?
mossy wadi
I didnt know that
tulip sail
Its 950 gold
Go for it just don't use the 122
mossy wadi
solid gate
Wait was that awnser related to the t44?
mossy wadi
I think ke ni otsu is my rarest , yeah it was
solid gate
I just want to know if the t44 is worth it
mossy wadi
I dont think so, go for e 50m
tulip sail
@solid gate yes its worth it
solid gate
Ok thanks
tulip sail
But as I said dont use the 122
mossy wadi
@solid gate add me
solid gate
Why
tulip sail
Its a terrible gun and only works for very few people
viral lodge
Either the gup firefly or the kv220
@tulip sail neither of these are rare really, just new, there are more forgotten/rare tanks. And stuff you can’t get flat out.
mossy wadi
Like what @viral lodge
viral lodge
Otsu (T3)for example falls under unobtainable and therefore one of the rarest
Any higher tier is more a matter of the tanks popularity and not its actual obtainableness
stray valley
I think ke ni otsu is my rarest , yeah it was
@mossy wadi
Mmm smells like sealclubber
viral lodge
The GuP firefly was sold semi recently and will come back. t-2020 just sucks and everyone knows it hence why you rarely see it
tulip sail
One was only sold once and not many people bought it and the other wasn't even offered to all the blitz servers
(Had to rewrite it since my phone jumbled the text )
viral lodge
Was it the GuP not on all or 2020?
tulip sail
The kv220 is a t5 heavy and was only sold to Eu and Asia