#vehicles-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 332

haughty forge Jul 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@wispy rain ya, just use derp gun and spam HE at enemies, try to aim spots with less armor cuz u will splash for more dmg , @wispy rain no , get some ap and 1 or 2 heat, sides of light medium tanks are pennable with ap

wispy rain Jul 30, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Ah okay

hollow notch Jul 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@wispy rain the HEAT shells of the stock 152 are really good. Spam plenty of heat

wispy rain Jul 30, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Alright. Thank you for the advice everyone!

plush bobcat Jul 30, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Sigh is 8 is the easiest thing to ammo rack

hollow notch Jul 30, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Has anyone else driving the obj252u noticed it getting stuck on things that no other tanks do?

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 6:58 PM

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how can i light tank out perform one of the highest dpm medium tanks in the game added with a better mobility and a decent armor specially on the turret

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105 HE penetration for a light tank that already deal 350 dmg with apcr is insane this should be happening

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this s more op than what the FV4202 used to be

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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FV4202 still has high pen HESH that can kick butt

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Leopard has the great gun

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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but it aint a light tank remember

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u guys probably when what light tank mean ur not supposed to out dpm medium tanks lmao and hv carzy turret armor and speed added to a high standard HE pen lmao

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:06 PM

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It has 300 less dpm than the meds

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:06 PM

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4202 has better dpm and high pen HESH, T62A has russian bias, leopard has crazy dpm and great mobility, batchat can hit-and-run

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:06 PM

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its medium tank is supposed to play hull down and shit not a light tank again

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Language

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Vickers can't hulldown tho?

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 PM

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if you can aim you can pen the front of the turret

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:07 PM

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a light tank supposed to get those high range spots and mobility not 300 less dpm should be like a thousand i mean just world of tanks pc for example

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Vickers can get troll bounces against meds for sure, but that's bc u poke quickly. If u stop for a second they can ez pen u. Heavies and tds will just obliterate u if u try to hulldown

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:08 PM

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@solid gate it still can hide its hull behind a ridge and u cant penetrate its hull

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@shrewd basin its the same w medium tanks aswell heavies and tds can easily pen u everywhere

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vickers got better aim time than the leo 1

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:09 PM

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No, stb and Patton r much better for hulldown and heavies and tds can't pen unless h hit the tiny hatches

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Leo has better gun, bc vickers has worse dispersion

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@shrewd basin yea but they got the same dpm and not the same mobility and that crazy HE pen what about that

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:10 PM

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They make up for it in armor? Smh lol

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:11 PM

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open blitz hangar and compare vickers armor to the stb

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:12 PM

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WG nerfs only based on statistics, so unless the vickers has like 60 wr it's not getting any nerf

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:12 PM

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lol vickers got better frontal hull armor than the stb

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here a light tank stats compared to a medium tank , u telling me thats not op for a light tank?

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heres stats comparing a light armor with a medium tank armor

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dont tell it dosent need a nerf man

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:16 PM

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It doesn't. Stb is played hulldown Vicks can't do that

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:17 PM

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so u telling me more depression can be traded with mobility armor and speed ?

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i honestly would mind if that can be traded from a medium to another

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Stb has better armor

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:21 PM

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but from medium to light lmao
and are u sure about that dude just go check ur self not all at stats but 3D models , not only that but in terms of gameplay both tanks can use the exact armor areas the same way just not hull down but still the vickers traded that with almost everything stb dosent have

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im not sure if u arguing w me or tryna prove me wrong rn

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:24 PM

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I didn't get the point. A light tank can't have better gun statistics than a medium tank? In what world this was supposed to happen? Tell me if there's rule telling that light tanks can't have powerful guns as mediuns.

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:24 PM

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here how much difference a light tank should have compared to a medium tank dude

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shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Wotb maps are small. If the dpm on vickers was to be more than 400 lower it would need like 350-400 sporting range and now that would be op

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Still nothing relevant. A country can't develop a fast tank with a powerful gun? The British army should take this in mind.

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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@shrewd basin what about camo rating its not only about view range

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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It's a light tank?

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:28 PM

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exactly its a light tank that shouldnt compet with mediums tanks in terms of gun AND ARMOR and dpm lmao r u hearing urself

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:28 PM

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It doesn't have armor

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@solid gate haha u telling me about countries dude its a game it should be balanced

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Ur trolling? Seriously? Stop it here. It's better for you.

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:29 PM

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The only armor it has is on turret Manlet and cheeks are huge

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@shrewd basin its not huge is a small tank compared to medium tanks size and it had better armor than the stb one already

shrewd basin Jul 30, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Yup he's trolling

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I really can't believe he is serious about it.

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:31 PM

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im not rly sure if im talkin to actual players or kids

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its a LIGHT TANK u do know the difference between a light and a medium?

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I know. But this still doesn't mean a light tank can't be better than mediuns.

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:34 PM

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LOL ok now i get wht u tryna say discussion ends there

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Kudos to british army in the end. Vickers was a nice concept of a light tank with good gun and great view range. Perfect for the stealth job.

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:40 PM

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this isnt world war 2 simulation this a mobile game that takes real tanks and put them into a fun balancing match up
not like they know that concept tank s actually better than the flagship soviet mediums

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 7:48 PM

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🤡

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Excuse me, are you actually deducting the real life capabilities of the Vickers Light from the in-game stats?...

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:49 PM

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thats am tryna say lmoa idk wht he talking about countries and shit

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my only point here s from what i know that A LIGHT TANK s a tank taht sacrifices its armor and gun performance to gain better speed and camo by droping weight and reducing its size
thats it
and i cant see that happening in this comparison between this light tanks and another medium tank

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:52 PM

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In this game they are basically fast mediums

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeah thats true

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:53 PM

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The Vicker Light is supposed to be the sniper amongst the lights and thus comes fairly close to the Leopard 1 kind of gameplay

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:54 PM

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expect leopard has slightly better gun but way worst camo rating and can be shot w HE frontally

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:54 PM

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The Sheridan is the shotgun and the Bat. Chat. is the SMG

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Yeah, you can play the Vickers more like an STB-1 which gives you more options when you are playing

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yeah thats why i compared it to the STB1

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and realized its better in everything expect it cant hull down thats why i think its op for light tank stats

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Though when comparing armour you should consider the angle of the armour, the STB-1 still has way supreme armour over the Vickers

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I agree that it is better than it needs to be

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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i know but i dosent really matter bc they both can be penned no matter whats the angle u know

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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The hull at least, yes

wheat idol Jul 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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yea see thats what im tryna say u got my point

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even if the vickers light been introduced to the game as a medium tank i ll still complain about how its better than the stb in so many things lol let alone being a light tank with way better speed and camo rating and viewrange

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LMAO i just noticed it has better view range and same camo as a tiny low dpm BAT CHAT
OKAY WG

strange thicket Jul 30, 2020, 9:10 PM

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@strange thicket

incorrect bigger the weaker the enemy's module gives better chance of ammo rack, if aimed properly and rng roles right
it goes boom better than smoller pew pew guns
@candid harbor lol you still didn't prove the existence of a good ammo racker
it is all RNG and the chance increases the weaker the target and depending on where the ammo rack is
what you said is basically that
it has nothing to do with a good ammo racker he was referring to a tank by the way

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@strange thicket he's right, certain guns have a higher tendency to get ammo racks, and are therefore better ammo rackers

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 9:13 PM

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It’s literally fact bigger calibers have higher module damage for instance why 105mm HE won’t damage as much modules as 152mm HE will

strange thicket Jul 30, 2020, 9:15 PM

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well fair point
but it is still fairly RNG based
so it depends more on if you know where the ammo rack is

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:16 PM

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of course it is still RNG based, but if you hit the ammo consistently a 152 will get far more ammo racks than a 105

strange thicket Jul 30, 2020, 9:17 PM

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fair enough
guess i will retract what i said then

marsh jackal Jul 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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IS4 OR IS7 is better?

regal mist Jul 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Is 4 def

winged stone Jul 30, 2020, 9:24 PM

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IS-4 is better for newer players, as all you really have to do is either facehug or sidescrape/angle. IS-7, while it’s definitely not a bad tank, it’s not as good imo. it has a pretty weak ammo rack, but it does have much better mobility and also a bigger gun.
IS-4 has a 122mm gun with 420-370-500damage and 258-340-68 pen.
IS-7 has a 130mm gun with 460-390-600 damage and 260-303-68 pen.
So it’s really up to you on what you are going to get.

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Bruh leo pt1 stock gun is hell

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Cant belive i have to spend hours just to get one module

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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that's what free xp is for

marsh jackal Jul 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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@winged stone ok thx🤭

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Used my free xp to research it lmao, currently 25k more

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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why would you waste free xp to research it instead of getting the modules

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Means more losses and more rage quit

stark adder Jul 30, 2020, 9:28 PM

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gringos

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Imagine fighting t10 and proffesional t9 tanks with a stupid gun that deals 225 dmg with 212 pen

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:29 PM

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you brought it upon yourself

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Its too expensive compared to some t9s

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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it's really not since the Ru is a nice tank

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this is exactly why you use free xp for modules instead of the tank itself

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yeah tbh i enjoyed ru, its He stings

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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then why did you use free xp to get pta

marsh jackal Jul 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yes that is a mistake

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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then why did you use free xp to get pta i was impatient lmao
@gentle wasp

gentle wasp Jul 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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now you are paying the price by getting smacked around by everything

tight spade Jul 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Lmao i guess i just have to lose and win countless times

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Prem acc is a good help cause u can get 700+ xp every win even ihf u did less dmg

tulip edge Jul 30, 2020, 9:50 PM

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At least you didn’t make this mistake in something like a stock ST-I..

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Stock ST-I is a decent grind, especially when you did the IS-8 beforehand

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I generally find heavies easier to stock grind, because aside from the turret you already have the armour to work with

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I believe this was talked about recently but I’ll bring it up anyway... is it possible for us to get the Manticore British light?

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Isn’t that tank in world of tanks pc?

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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It is possible, but I think it's unlikely. We already have a sniper with the Vickers

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Yes, it's the tier ten British light there, and it's probably the worst tier ten there

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Worst t10 sure, but a light with another kinda high alpha damage shot, like 480 I think.

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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390, it's not even that high. It's standard for 105mm guns which it features

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Yep nvm, I don’t think anyone would want to drive that tank in blitz if it was added.

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I actually hope for German or Soviet tier ten lights first

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Chinnesse lights > Any other nation lights

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Rip sturmtiger lol, if you play world of tanks pc and remember that event. That tank won’t be added for sure.

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:19 PM

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With the Soviet probably being the melee fighter and the German more being a flanker/ supporter

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The Sturmtiger event was kind of... interesting to look at

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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One shots all around

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Sturmtiger be like, ye, you can have the 320mm gun but youll only shoot every 3 minutes

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Is that, or massive nerfs to its gun, like 120 mm pen, or a 180mm main gun

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Otherwise, it will never get in the game

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Sturmtiger was fast af too.

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Its a Tiger with a better engine

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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He meant the event

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Ikr

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Look it up, it's truly hilarious

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I did play it

kindred wren Jul 30, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Oh nice 😆

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Played it too, derpy tank indeed.

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Literal king of derps

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Sad smasher noises*

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:25 PM

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That tank can literally oneshot a Maus

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Imagine if it had hesh, lol

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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The pen is like the strongest, I don’t think any t10 heavy in the game (blitz) has enough armor to bounce a sturmtiger shot.

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I think it can overmatch 110 mm armour

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If i aint wrong, so, no sidescraping for anyone

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Sturmtiger joined the chat*
Maus has left the chat*
E-100 has left the chat*

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Sad... I wouldn’t mind a manticore

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sturmmaus

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SturMS-1

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Omg @solid gate .. The prophecy is true.. You speak of the chosen one? The one sought to bring balance to the game? The mighty Ms-1? The legends are true everyone.

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:31 PM

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MS-1 was op for a tier 1

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Bring back the old t1s wargaming, why they took them out idk.

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:33 PM

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So id like to announce the launch of MS-1S, basically a MS-1 but with and S, wich means Stalinium 122mm gun it™

candid cairn Jul 30, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Kv-2, what Soviet men drive
Ms-1, what real Soviet men drive

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Question should I buy the su 152 or the amx 13 75

shell forum Jul 30, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Those are 2 wildly different play style. Do you want to be the small fly with a painful clip or you want big gun to mess up people days?

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I got the su 152

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I've already had the su 152 just wanted to see ppl opinions on the tanks

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Its great td the 152mm can damage anything with high enough damage

shell forum Jul 30, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Have fun with the SU. The 152mm is viable for HE trolling but you can run the 122mm for reliable shot. The ISU 152 rewards you with the BL-10 152mm that is inaccurate but will trick shot and troll you as much as it troll them

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Trust me, BL-10 can no scope one shot an Ru251 when it feels like or can't even hit a VK100. It is frustrating fun

shell forum Jul 30, 2020, 11:16 PM

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~~The Ru251 example is personal experience. Full speed and sudden one shotted from a hidden BL-10~~

solid gate Jul 30, 2020, 11:17 PM

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They dont get one shoted now, or not always at least

keen escarp Jul 30, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Whos over grinding over here for obj. 268

shell forum Jul 30, 2020, 11:19 PM

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But the joy of seeing the HP drop from full to like 10% remains a huge glee for all big gun user

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Enemy Tank : TRIGGERED

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:24 PM

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yea its not that fun when u go from full to a 2 digit hp
which is why a turning SU-100y, KV2, Smashers, etc are so scary

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:25 PM

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especially when you're a tier lower

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:26 PM

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especially when ur in a TD that has no armor and can't move out of the way

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:28 PM

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and speaking of TDs, i need advice on how to play the su 101

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:30 PM

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lol im playing SU100 rn
kinda a nub so maybe sb else could help

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:31 PM

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dude, the su100 has a massive 122mm gun

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:31 PM

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and massive RNG
hense my name RNGesus

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:31 PM

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you can literally rip out half of the enemy's hp pool with one shot

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:32 PM

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I don't think I have that gun unlocked yet lol

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:33 PM

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if you get that gun grinding is gonna be a breeze

storm apex Jul 30, 2020, 11:33 PM

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mhm. That's what im working towards
the massive Russian RNG gun

elder saddle Jul 30, 2020, 11:34 PM

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the two tanks after have different play styles tho

balmy mesa Jul 31, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Is the tiger 1 worth the grind?

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yes

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@balmy mesa Yes, it’s a solid tier 7. It also leads to the Tiger II, one of the best tech tree tanks at tier 8.

balmy mesa Jul 31, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Ok, thanks

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Is there a legendary camo on crusader?

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 12:21 AM

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No

candid cairn Jul 31, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Bring back the godly MS-1... And give that beastly tank a legendary camo lol

delicate barn Jul 31, 2020, 12:56 AM

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should I re-buy the t54 ltwt or should I save up my credits for the t49?

hearty wren Jul 31, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Possibly give people (who had them) the original Tier 1 tanks

ebon parrot Jul 31, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I agree

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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so you seal club nubs? nah
i don't get what is fun in playing tier 1

tulip sail Jul 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I mean I can get having them usable in tr only

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 1:19 AM

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What do you do with the T-25 (tier 5 prem med)? I got it from a box once and I never have used it in a battle and I am on the fence about selling it or just keeping it around

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 1:28 AM

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@solid gate play at least 1 battle in it before you sell it so that you can reclaim it later if you want it back

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 1:29 AM

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My main question is IF I should sell it or how I would play it.

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 1:32 AM

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i always thought of it as a german t34
so probably that

formal holly Jul 31, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I saw this on the other team

📎 Screenshot_20200730-182844_World_of_Tanks.jpg

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Yeah its being live tested right now along with the T44-85

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Looks like a nice looking tank

tight raven Jul 31, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Is it just that im bad at the game or is the Tiger P weaker than the Tiger 1 because of its cupola size?

kind bluff Jul 31, 2020, 3:02 AM

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tiger P used to be a lot better but ever since the armor buff the tiger 1 is the big chad in every way

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 3:51 AM

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and it's got extremely obvious weak spots in the armor despite it being better than the tiger 1
@solid gate it is not really better than tiger 1

kind bluff Jul 31, 2020, 4:01 AM

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heheh not anymore
the tiger 1 legit has thicker armor than tiger p now

tight raven Jul 31, 2020, 4:14 AM

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My Tiger P's cupola gotten shot by a SU-152 using HE and it took all 771 HP

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 4:19 AM

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now that is just pure RNG

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 5:02 AM

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My Tiger P's cupola gotten shot by a SU-152 using HE and it took all 771 HP
@tight raven it's RNG mate

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@tight raven the only way to justify playing the tiger p over the tiger is during gravity mode so you can get the vk100.01 and maus. That tank is inferior in more ways than one to the tiger. Won’t catch me in either though. Smasher gang😎

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 5:59 AM

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tiger p is great

zealous anchor Jul 31, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Why@haughty forge

keen escarp Jul 31, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Is it me or they need to bring back the D W 2

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Is T 28 prot good?

alpine notch Jul 31, 2020, 6:52 AM

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@solid gate Its not the best out there, but still has turret. One thing that you have to care about is the mobility

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 7:01 AM

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@candid harbor lol you still didn't prove the existence of a good ammo racker
it is all RNG and the chance increases the weaker the target and depending on where the ammo rack is
what you said is basically that
it has nothing to do with a good ammo racker he was referring to a tank by the way
@strange thicket I did prove existence of good ammoracker, it is the biggest gun at that tier

rng only plays role in deciding whether this penetrating shell should damage internal module(s) or not

this chance can be increased by running adrenaline before shooting

for example kv2, su100y, etc are great ammorackers at tier 6 than any other tier 6 tank carrying smol pew pew gun

reason simply being that they do more module damage than some tanks at that tier could sustain

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fun fact: rng (of whether shell would damage the internal modules or not) is calculated everytime when shell goes through an internal module

so in theory if you line up your shell going through 2 modules then rng would be calculated both times just before it hit that internal module

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 7:13 AM

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He was told right after and retracted his statment

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 7:13 AM

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tldr: if you hit the correct spot with big enough gun there is a chance of jack-in-the-box effect

but if you hit the correct spot with not big enough gun, then you have to hit it multiple times to knockout that internal module

kinda similar to how you damage external modules (like tracks and gun) but incase of internal modules (so that big guns don't one shot every tank they shoot) there is rng to balance it

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 7:14 AM

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ex: U make ammo rack critical with 1st shot, detonate with 2nd

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 7:16 AM

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It was explained earlier he retracted his original statement etc 105mm HE = minor damaged modules 152mm= more damaged modules

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 7:17 AM

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BIG caliber= More dmg to modules, @candid harbor ya agree

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 7:17 AM

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ex: U make ammo rack critical with 1st shot, detonate with 2nd
@haughty forge
yea just like this but rng would calculate whether you would damage internal module or not both times

frigid compass Jul 31, 2020, 7:32 AM

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heheh not anymore
the tiger 1 legit has thicker armor than tiger p now
@kind bluff tiger p can sometimes bounce tier 8 shots when angled but tiger 1 is uh well no as it just gets penned

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that 200mm base thickness has saved me multiple times on uptiers

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 7:43 AM

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yea but mobility, better gun handling and almost as good armour profile is more desirable

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frigid compass Jul 31, 2020, 7:47 AM

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idk man i just cant seem to do well with a Tiger I

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while im used to the Tiger P as the mobility is good enough because well im a Heavy main and the gun handling on Tiger I isnt enough of an increase to justify the lesser armor imo

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 7:50 AM

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yea, tiger i armour really only holds at same tier and below tanks
without massive lower plate or cupola of tiger p

frigid compass Jul 31, 2020, 7:51 AM

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yeah i guess im a bit armor reliant
as its also why i dont like the Black Prince compared to the Tiger P

woven fjord Jul 31, 2020, 8:03 AM

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We need polish Heavy tank like 50tp and 60tp lewandowskiego

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:05 AM

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elaborate

keen otter Jul 31, 2020, 9:15 AM

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no armor is the best armor

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tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Tiger I > Tiger P

@woven fjord They announced the 50TP late last year, but there has been no news about it since then.

candid harbor Jul 31, 2020, 9:55 AM

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@keen otter that is just grille gun when you play it and not someone else

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 10:28 AM

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can we get 800 HE alpha for conway? it has 600 alpha and 700 HE alpha, or make it 750

agile crest Jul 31, 2020, 10:35 AM

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no, What’s the Conway gun’s caliber?

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 10:36 AM

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140mm, but same reload as 152 mm, 750 alpha does not hurt

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oh nvm , 670 HESH and 770 HE , sorry

agile crest Jul 31, 2020, 10:47 AM

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so legit nothing

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 10:48 AM

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@keen otter ya today T34 didnt penetrate me in T49

rotund palm Jul 31, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Imma try Wot PC

neon zenith Jul 31, 2020, 1:32 PM

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thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 1:37 PM

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He is just an absolutely god and has won 3516 battles in a row isnt that right @spiral basin ? 😂

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Hi

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Alex is complaining about you again

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Alex is my love

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 1:40 PM

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:(

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But I thought... Me and you... :'(

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 1:42 PM

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You my stepsister huh

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 1:43 PM

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That's what Nionoob said...

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Hmmm.. @fathom shoal statement

next solstice Jul 31, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Saucy

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Kids🤚😑

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Am I supposed to be having more fun in an IS-8 (or IS-3) than a Tiger II

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Tiger is just so boring and any prammo can pen it for me, don’t know if I just don’t know how to play it? Or if it just sucks

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I'm guessing you are trying to take it against heavies? Against average med prammo it's impenetrable

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 3:46 PM

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No like on any map with long “lanes” I drive up that so called lane and hug a wall or something and get cover behind a small building or whatever and as soon as my FRONT armor peeks head on I get annihilated by a TD or like 3 meds just sitting there

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@solid gate oh yes..

Me and @thick trout are kids, 5 years old

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 4:41 PM

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5 years combined age that is, but he is more bot than me by far

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@solid gate oh yes..

Me and @thick trout are kids, 5 years old
@spiral basin oh! Nice to know. Welcome to this server.

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Thank you, thank you.

quick lagoon Jul 31, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I have a question

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I may have an answer

quick lagoon Jul 31, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Is there any new tanks coming out

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Kranvagn line by the end of the year
Pilot and Eagle sometime soon maybe

quick lagoon Jul 31, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Can u make another tank a special tank

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Not sure what you mean

quick lagoon Jul 31, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I'm mean make a tank named the rose an Irish tank tier 5 or 6

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Because I'm just wondering if u can try that

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Becauae I'm scottish amd I want a tank to go for different than the others becauae I can test it for u

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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This is a discussion channel not a request channel to devs lol.

fathom shoal Jul 31, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@spiral basin @thick trout why are you pinging meeeee? I wanna be unknown 😶

spiral basin Jul 31, 2020, 5:55 PM

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xD

thick trout Jul 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@fathom shoal You are too fanous for that sorry I can't let that happen

candid osprey Jul 31, 2020, 6:17 PM

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hi

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Hi what is the max's alpha damage?

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 6:23 PM

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@candid osprey 1300

candid osprey Jul 31, 2020, 6:32 PM

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no not damage per minute like i mean what is avrege damage for a single shot?

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Yea, FV215b 183 has the highest in the game with 1300 alpha on its HE

pulsar ginkgo Jul 31, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Y5 els bis

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 7:23 PM

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M60 has a solid turret and a troll upper plate.

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 7:24 PM

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or you could hulldown in the tank like you are supposed to be

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Just dont show your front plate... It has 10 depression.

haughty forge Jul 31, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Because they use prammo and m60 is utter garbage @haughty bobcat

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Imagine not making it hard to pen.

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M60 is a worse STB (worse armour) but its still usable, while its not great if you are failing in it thats a you problem not the tank.

harsh oak Jul 31, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Fix the gap in this 46 Patton plz

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candid cairn Jul 31, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Lol

limber sonnet Jul 31, 2020, 8:27 PM

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What are the tank made for assault?

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Maus. Maaaauuuuusssssss

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 8:31 PM

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E3 as well.

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Any users of type 59? Any thoughts about it? Im asking because I'm considering the buying

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:52 PM

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It's pretty good, it's a bit more Defensive than aggressive but it can push when the opportunity is available

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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It's one of the better credit earners, but the poor ammo capacity is exceptionally annoying

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 8:54 PM

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You wont have ammo problems if you make all your shots count.

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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^^^ it doesn't have a short reload so you should be anyway

viral lodge Jul 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Im personally holding off since its a bit powercrept. (thats just me tho)

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:55 PM

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What's the reload time with the 100% crew and modules that lowers the time?

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:56 PM

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I think 8.1 let me check real quick

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:56 PM

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In my panzer 58 i reload about 5-6s

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:56 PM

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8.25

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:57 PM

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That's quite long imo

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:57 PM

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It's not bad for 280 alpha and it's armor

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You can get away with trading other medium tanks at mid-long range

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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True dat, the armor can do the work especially the turret

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@broken sentinel I wouldn't say that 252U outclasses IS-3 in every way. IS-3 doesn't really have a competitor, because it's the fastest and most accurate IS tank (as compared to 252U, which is pretty slow for an IS tank, and has by far the worst accuracy). The super invincible turret is just a cherry on top.

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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What about the depression of gun?

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:58 PM

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IS-3 has its place, it's pretty much a medium support vehicle. 252u is just noob-proof and tbh that doesn't do much

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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true, the 252U is kinda just extremely tanky. The IS-3 plays more like a medium tank with a heavy turret and heavy gun (imo, and I might be explaining it poorly)

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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7° @solid gate

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 8:59 PM

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The thing that people overlook about IS-3 is that it's super short. The hull is barely taller than the 252's lower plate. If you can hide a 252 lower plate, you can hide an IS-3 hull

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I honestly loved the IS-3 and IS-8. Both farm extremely well and have way more mobility than most people expect. They're kinda like MBTs for their tiers

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:00 PM

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IS-8 is really good right now

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:01 PM

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The AP is also really really nice. 5° of normalization helps a ton in brawling situations

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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BL-9 is lyfe

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@harsh oak This gap is natural. Unless you want WG to make it turretless by closing the gap between the tank and turret there is no issue, just bad luck with the RNG

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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bUt wHaT aBoUt tHe 100mM? @wise moth

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Love the is8
@lyric oriole and making shells count in the type 59. It does not have stellar accuracy or pen, so it will fail to do damage relatively often. I run out of HE all the time, apcr occasionally, and ap gets sketching low

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:02 PM

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People use the 100mm?

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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some do and it's extremely annoying

like, to be on their team that is, not going against them

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Who thought giving the 252u more alpha was a good idea?

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I did

karmic nymph Jul 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Who thought selling it for 8.5k gold was a good idea

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Small sample size (last 90 days), but I think I'm a better IS-3 player than 252U player lol

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kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 9:05 PM

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That would be me too

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Type's penetration is quite low at ap, im used to meds that do have 200pen at least lel, however played a lot on rudy and loved it and it has 144 pen at 7 tiers and i like playing on t54 lt which has similar gun like type

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I mean I'd choose the IS-3 before I'd choose the IS-5.

karmic nymph Jul 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Obj252u has whack wn8 cause so many people do quite good in it

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Oof, I probably would take the is5 first. The upper hull is so good for baiting shots with

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I would take the IS-3 because of the turret and better gun handling.
IS-5 has a potato gun

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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The AP and the mobility are what make the IS-3 for me. I can also angle my armor in ways that make the IS-3 simply better for my playstyle

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I've used the 100mm on the IS-3 and it isn't bad, but it's extremely uncomfortable to use

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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I never seem to have problems with the Russian 122s. The is6 gun is especially accurate

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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100mm has even less accuracy than the BL-9, which is a huge meme, and you don't even get the big boy 225 AP pen to compensate

karmic nymph Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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If I want to play an is5 I’d rather just use a 252u

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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If the 100mm was more accurate and had something like 215mm of pen, it would be interesting

but at that point just go get a WZ-110

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:09 PM

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IS-3 is a better platform than 110 IMO. The gun is mounted further forward so playing with ridgeline corners is much easier, and it's much faster, and has a lower profile. I love my 110, don't get me wrong, I just love my IS-3 more. And I'm not gonna mention the turret again lol

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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But an actually useful hull is always nice

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I have yet to play 110 on Blitz played it on Console and it was pretty good

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Yeah, the WZ-110 has some troll armor but the IS-3 has a way better turret. It excels in a particular area (the turret) rather than having decent-ish everything

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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110 is slept on way too much. You never see them in battle, and no one ever talks about it, but it's actually really good

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I kinda want to rebuy it now
But I am poor

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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110 is fortunate though because if +2/-2 was still around it would be abysmally bad.

In tier 10 matches it had nothing going for it

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yeah, I recently went down the 113 line and had some good games in the 110. It's not above and beyond, but people definitely don't respect it enough for what it does

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@lyric oriole Lots of tanks are abysmally bad in +2/-2. The only tank at tier 8 I would willingly take against tier 10s is the T49, and that's just because I can spam HE for memes

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I kinda treated it like an IS-8 that was put at tier 8. It worked pretty well

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:13 PM

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It's a tiger 2 that trolls bounces instead of being a gold autopen

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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110 is a special case, it doesn't have alpha, it doesn't have DPM, it doesn't have the armor it needs, or the maneuverability. It was a nightmare, and that's without hitskins

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110 definitely didn't have a bad stock grind though

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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110's armor can hold up ok if they don't know to shoot the shoulder plates. And it's probably better than having to drive a Caernarvon or something

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Don't remind me of that on console

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Or Tiger II for that matter

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Tiger 2 was actually good

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IS-3 is all around good though on console, even in tier 10, just roll with the meds, try to find a Hulldown spot and if not just poke out occasionally and out trade the mediums for a little damage

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Still supremely disappointed that Leo (the tier 7) is unlikely to get the 105mm on Blitz

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It's just gonna be bad without it

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Better that than it being broken

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Without the 100mm, it's kinda just gonna be a crappy comet. And comet is already bad

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Comet without turret armor

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Also, it's not like having a 100mm gun is even gonna be broken at tier 7. 100mm guns on Blitz at low tier deal 280, and the T-34-1 already has a 100mm, and actual turret armor

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:24 PM

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T341 is also borderline op

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:24 PM

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T29, T25AT, Smasher, etc... "Allow us to introduce ourselves"

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:25 PM

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It's camo Rating is illegal

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:25 PM

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sidehugs smasher

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Smasher gets lucky HE pen into the cupolas

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Can it even shoot that low? Now I want to check

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I can hop on for a few seconds and test it for science

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I have no idea lol (since I don't own a smasher, and I only played my T-34-1 before Smasher was a thing), but that seems like something that would happen

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:27 PM

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For science
You got a smasher?

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Yeah

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Also, fwiw, the target is really small, and kinda sketchy even if you can aim that low

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@hollow notch Ok, Smasher is a lot taller than I thought, and T-34-1 is a lot shorter than I thought, but theoretically if the smasher moves, and gets full dispersion, it might be able to hit the shot. It's probably a 1 in a million though

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Also, what makes T-34-1 broken isn't really the gun, it's more the profile and turret armor

hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yup, it's an micro is3

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Can confirm

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hollow notch Jul 31, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Nearly an e25

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Sorry images take super long to send over data from my workplace

nocturne tiger Jul 31, 2020, 9:37 PM

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.. what the heck is this.

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kind bluff Jul 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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a gun

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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looks hacked man. Might have to report u

kind bluff Jul 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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hey i saw ur deleted message 😏

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 9:39 PM

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sshhhhhh

strange thicket Jul 31, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@nocturne tiger i introduce you to the BL-10 fellow commander

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or let's say comrade

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:23 PM

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@broken sentinel Here's T32 vs. T34 turret vs. IS-5 CS HEAT btw

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I mean, that's a highly specific scenario. It's also insane that the T32's turret can be penned

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:26 PM

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@broken sentinel Even if we make the gun smaller (IS-3 base AP), there's still a clear winner

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lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 10:27 PM

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What's IS-5 CS HEAT? 297?

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Yeah, I mean the T32 always had the better turret. The T34 just has a way better gun

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@lyric oriole Yeah, but also remember that tier 8 TDs are packing similar, if not more pen on their gold rounds

lyric oriole Jul 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yeah, couldn't remember quite but I figured it was around there since 300ish is a solid number to base it

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@broken sentinel I know, I'm just only considering the turret, since that's what we were talking about

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I mean I run CS on my ISU-152 (mainly for the HE). The DPM isn't even that bad either

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HE goes from 90mm to 99mm

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@broken sentinel Yeah, but the scary thing isn't the HE with that, it's the APCR

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yeah lmao
345mm of pen

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:35 PM

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T34 is garbage tank, penned from everywhere and it’s so fat and slow

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Only turret still standing is IS-3 lol, and that weakspot is only because of the stinkin triple overmatch

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@lost tree gotta utilize your turret. The vast majority of incoming fire cannot pen you. You really only have to worry about tier 9s and a couple TDs at tier 8

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:37 PM

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When I was in my is3 I could just face hug a t34 and absolutely smash it from the front and turret

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:37 PM

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IS-3 smashes most things in a facehug though with the pen and invincible turret

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:37 PM

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that's because the T34 got nerfed when they updated its armor. You can't brawl in the T34

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Yeah it’s garbage now

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Whenever I find myself in a scenario where I’m face hugging in a T34, I always troll people by using my gun to block the shell

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Only update to T34 was they rounded the machine gun port on the front hull (which people don't really specifically aim for because the entire front hull is an easy pen anyway)

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Is3 and IS-8 are so good

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Just got the IS-8 like 2 days ago n have the top gun and turret and just absolutely railing people

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@lost tree If you were brawling before, you were playing it wrong. It's still very viable

@wise moth no, they added 38mm thick areas around the hull

I can't upload an image for some reason

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lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I don’t personally own the t34 but I played a few matches on a friends account and always dominate it when I find myself against one

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Now if you’re a tier 7 against a t34 that’s a different story

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I would say the T34 is a solid tank, but not amazing.
The tank has its strong points, and it’s a perfectly fine tank for random battles, especially since the average player will struggle against your turret and they normally just let you farm them if you’re sitting on a ridgeline.

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:42 PM

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the area above the upper plate is 38mm, which really sucks

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wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:43 PM

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That's always been there though

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:44 PM

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it wasn't as thin as far as I remember

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Positive, what is an ATGM I’m newer to the game and don’t know a lot of the abbreviations

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Anti Tank Guided Missile

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Ahhhh ok

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:45 PM

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So you're new and yet you're giving your take on tanks you've fought a handful of times?

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I’ve got 1.5k battles in like 3 weeks

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And I’ve been playing since 2014 but redownloaded in 2020 because I was like 9 and lost my account password I have like 2.7k battles total

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:46 PM

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@lost tree Anti Tank Guided Missile.

Basically a new stupid mechanic they gave to the tier 9 and 10 US lights that lets them hit people behind cover.

@broken sentinel Dont' debate me on this or I'm gonna get heated lol

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yeah they are quite annoying when a t29e1 or Sheridan aimbots u

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I've played for like 4.5 years and only have 23k battles. I spent most of my time watching videos about the game.

@wise moth my memory might be foggy because I distinctly remember being able to face hug Russian heavies and getting away with it

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Almost every vehicle on my old account has been removed from the game and I just checked I have 3.1k total in 6 years of game time

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Also I’ve got the MK 1 heavy tank idk if that’s rare or something

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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The event tank from 100 years of tanks?

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Probably I’m not sure

tulip sail Jul 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yes it was a temporary tank

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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gonna need a screenshot of that bud lmao

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I played it ten times to get the unique medal lol.
I care way too much about the unique medals you get below all your awards

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Lol

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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you said you have the tank, we all have stats of it dude

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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What that’s my garage lol

real gorge Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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LOL

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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That's your stat's page, not the garage

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Well I don’t have access to the account but I do have proof I owned it

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Everyone who played back then owned it

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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We all did, WG gave it to everyone for the event and then removed it

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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It's not in there anymore, they removed it from every account

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Because I lost it because apple discontinued Game Center and it don’t work but that’s still my Game Center account

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:52 PM

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kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Apple still runs the Game Center, my account is linked to it

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Mine isn’t it won’t let me

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:53 PM

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I just have a WG account...

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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It says failed to receive data from Game Center when I try to login using it

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@broken sentinel Well, the T34 remodel happened in 6.0, and it was only shown on the blitzhangar preview page before the update (but strangely enough isn't present on the release page now, even though it did happen), and I can't find it anymore, but I know I looked at it a ton, and I'm certain the only change was rounding the machine gun

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@lost tree Go into your settings (device) and scroll down to the Game Center and check if you're logged in

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:54 PM

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ok

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 10:55 PM

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It should be linked to your apple ID

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I am logged in but it still don’t work

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@wise moth yeah BlitzHangar has done that to me a lot. IDK, I was sure the T34 had a better hull than it has now (it certainly wasn't HE-able outside of the lower plate). I think WG just screwed the whole thing up

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Does it give you an error code or something?

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:56 PM

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It just says failed to receive data from Game Center or something let me look

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This is what it shows when I try to login using Game Center

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:57 PM

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so go to Game Center if you can (idk, I'm on Android and PC)

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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It just isn’t a thing anymore

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 10:58 PM

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@broken sentinel T32 also has a 38mm hull roof, and I know that has never been touched, so I do believe that T34 likely also always had that same roof thickness. Admittedly, this is pretty flimsy evidence, but still

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 10:59 PM

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@wise moth maybe that's the case, idk. WG may have wanted the hulls to be somewhat consistent so they changed it on the T34 to match the T32? Idk, it's a mystery.

I think we can all agree this is BlitzHangar's fault for not keeping all of the patchnotes up lol

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oh maybe we can check on the Wayback Machine 🤔

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Either way though, I don't think it's a significant change, because at the time, no one said anything about the roof, they just lamented the fact that the rounded machine gun gave it a flat part that could be penned by big HE shells

Also, no dice on the wayback machine, I already tried @broken sentinel

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 11:01 PM

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@lost tree That error code most likely means that your Game Center account is not connected to an in-game account

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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RIP

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I gained access to my account

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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So you have it back now?

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Yep I just figured out it has an old war gaming account linked to it so I requested a password reset and logged in and there is so many removed tanks lol

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Password reset for the WG account was actually the next thing I had in mind to do. Nice that it worked 😄

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Yep how do I buy these blue tanks back if they aren’t in tech tree anymore

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broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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You can't. They're collectors now

you can sell them for gold if you have them tho, which is what a lot of us did when they made them collectors

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Damn m

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I only have the luchs and d1 blue tanks in my garage

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 11:08 PM

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@lost tree Send in a vehicle restoration ticket to support, and you can get them back by paying their sale price, although those collector tanks have gold sale prices, so you'll need to shell out gold

lost tree Jul 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Yeah if it’s gold then I’m fine now

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 11:16 PM

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T32 is a decent tank but is outclassed by tanks that have better 105s, ie: Tiger 2, and lowe, it also seems to have poor dpm. My solution is giving it the stock 120 that the M103 has, and then balance said gun to the likes of tier 8. T32 is often regarded as the worst of the american heavy line, I love the T32, i can work around the 198 pen by using prem shells, but its dpm is horrid.

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 11:17 PM

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It has better armor than the tanks with 105s

wise moth Jul 31, 2020, 11:19 PM

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The T32 hate is pretty irrational. You get 2200 HP, more than superheavies, 10 degrees gun depression, arguably the 2nd best turret in the tier, and fairly decent mobility

kindred wren Jul 31, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I'd say it's the best because of the gundepression

solid gate Jul 31, 2020, 11:22 PM

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you guy's do make good point's

unreal dust Jul 31, 2020, 11:34 PM

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@broken sentinel you can buy collectors its with gold

broken sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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you can buy tier 9 and 10 ones, but you cannot buy back the low tier ones

unreal dust Jul 31, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Yes

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But the thing is u can only buy the ones that you use to play

delicate barn Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Should I go for the foch 155 or the object 173? Im looking for a good tank destroyer that is very mobile and that has the armor to be aggressive

unreal dust Jul 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Obj 173

gentle wasp Jul 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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I’m sure you mean 263. Go for the Foch.

tulip edge Jul 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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If you mean 263, don’t go for it. Pretty mediocre, foch is better ^

delicate barn Jul 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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alright yeah sorry I meant 263

unreal dust Jul 31, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Foch is good but u can do more things with 268

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263 dam

storm apex Jul 31, 2020, 11:59 PM

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When ur ammo rack gets damaged, the narrator says "we lost some ammo" or sth
do i actually lose ammo and credits, or is it just fake news

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 12:03 AM

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im guessing its fake news but I never paid attention to that

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 12:05 AM

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also, i've gotten penned in the SU-100 SO many times its not even funny
i even got penned from the front and went from full hp to 0 in 1 shot
how, what, when, where, and why?

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 12:06 AM

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It’s not meant to get hit

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 12:33 AM

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you can buy tier 9 and 10 ones, but you cannot buy back the low tier ones
@broken sentinel I am fairly certain you can get low tier ones back

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 12:47 AM

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@storm apex You don't lose ammo when your ammorack is hit, the voice line is there because that's what would happen if it gets hit and doesn't blow up

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You can restore all collectable tanks
https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/23202/

VRT - Restoration Cost Table | World of Tanks Blitz

The in-game Recovery tool allows players to restore Premium, Collector and Event vehicles. The characteristics of collector vehicles could change. You can

broken sentinel Aug 1, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Yeah you can restore them, but they're not readily available for purchase.

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@storm apex If you got one shot in an su 100, you likely got ammoracked.

If your ammo gets damaged, the module indicator will go yellow and you can just use a repair kit. However, if the ammo gets critically damaged, your tank automatically gets destroyed no matter how much health you have.

In the SU-100, it is common to get ammoracked as the ammo can be easily hit if an enemy penetrates with a shell through the front of your tank.

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Is the foch 155 more fun than the 263? Which line is most fun to grind on?

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:12 AM

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263 line is pain until tier 9
I personally loved the whole foch line (except arlv39) but apparently people generally don't.

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Yeah the arl is a pain but Im close to the ac46 , so I have high hopes for it

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Don't expect too much

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Is it at least more mobile than the arl

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I liked it, but the armour isn't really awesome and the speed is ok but not great

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Alright, well should I be expecting alot from the ac48 then?

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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take lux's opinion on the line over mine on the foch. I normally hate turretless tanks, with the only exception being the foch line.

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:23 AM

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It has mediocre armour that only really holds up against medium standard ammo and when angled up, but it is one of the fastest tanks in the line

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Generally expect to be penetrated most of the time and you will have a good time with the tank

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Alright, thanks for the info

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:26 AM

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@hollow notch It pays to listen to someone who liked the line because those more likely than not know how to make it work

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 1:27 AM

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yea I looked up the weak points of the SU-100, and I get now why im always getting
ammo-racked, driver dead, tracks taken off, and engine failure
Crickety there's so many weak points on this tank

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:27 AM

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But you see, people say the armor never works. My personal experience was nothing but bounces.

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:27 AM

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The SU-100 is a rolling weakspot with the gunmantlet being the only real piece of armour

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The armour of the AMX AC 48 works well when you give it extra angle

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:28 AM

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As in 5k damage blocked was a consistent occurrence in the tier 9

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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But the gundepression makes it a bit hard to do so. Thanks to the speed you can troll people into bouncing, though

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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And ramming is really nice with them.

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Indeed. i actually liked the tier nine the least because it was so slow turning compared to the rest

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My favourite of the line was the AMX AC 48, but the line is very inconsistent

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I played all of them on the medium routes and pretended I was a heavy

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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The SU-100 is a rolling weakspot with the gunmantlet being the only real piece of armour
@kindred wren
that's just pure fax
u can't even ram with the thing
its like ramming a brick wall with a piece of tofu

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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The frontal ammorack on the su100 is also a nice feature

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:32 AM

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SAu 40 is a derper, S35 CA is a dpm peeker, ARL V39 is a semi-derp dpmer, AMX AC 46 is a dpm support tank, AMX AC 48 is a medium killer, Foch is a heavy assault tank and the Foch (155) is a damage dealer assaulter

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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and as if the mobility of the thing isn't slow enough they also put the driver in front
where it can conveniently get killed and make u even slower

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Meh, tier 7-10 are all medium killers

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:34 AM

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All the russian derp TDs basically work by popping in front of an enemy tank, blast him and retreat while having your allies give you firecover

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they can be used for medium killing, but the AMX AC 48 is the most specialised in it. The Foch is a bit slow for it, the AMX AC 46 has too little armour and the Foch (155) is just as effective against heavies, it's a in-the-face tank for all intents and purposes

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But this is all just theory, it's best to just play them as they suit you

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:37 AM

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So basically you can start being aggressive starting with the ac48?

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Yes, you can already be somewhat aggressive in the AMX AC 46

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It's only the SAu 40 and the ARL V39 that really struggle at the frontline

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 1:38 AM

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AC48 isn’t that bad actually. Before WZ-120-FT became a thing it was pretty fun, although now the WZ is just better in every way

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I feel like the WZ is a copy of the soviet TD's and I already have the ISU

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 1:39 AM

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AC46 is an absolute struggle bus though. You can’t really play aggressive because it’s absolutely massive and easy to pen, and it’s also a trash sniper because it’s huge and has no camo

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:39 AM

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He means the WZ-120-1G FT

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 1:40 AM

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@delicate barn Not the tech tree tank, the premium one

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Oh

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:41 AM

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AC 46 is something that you need to play in support of allies because you can't really compete on your own. You have awesome dpm and good damage to be a threat, but you need others to draw attention and/or take the hits

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:41 AM

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well they are pretty rare and since im a F2P player I don't think I'll be getting the WZ

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Thanks for the tips and info, was really useful

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 1:42 AM

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is the tier5 leopard a scouting tank?

echo marsh Aug 1, 2020, 1:43 AM

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oh yes

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Uhm... Scouting in tier five is a bit in vain... And it isn't as great as it used to be

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They changed it so often that I quite honestly don't know if it's any good

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Leopard is an old gem

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 1:50 AM

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With the stock AC48 should I rebuy the 46 to get the mid gun or just grind through stock?

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Rebuying would make you lose almost 700k credits

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 1:52 AM

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ok

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I recommend to grind all modules before selling a tank generally, but now that it's too late I would say that you should just grind through it if it's bearable, if not that's 700k credits down the drain

merry slate Aug 1, 2020, 1:54 AM

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They should add artillery

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Similar to Carriers in world of warships blitz, i want to clap some booty with artillery also DEVS, MAKE THE GAMEMODES 10v10!!!

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Sure. Great idea. The only thing will be that they will snipe you because you can spot half the spawns from the middle of the map if the tanks have bad camouflage

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And thanks to all the lemming trains it will be more than easy to flank around and clean the spawn

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And then the arty would be 1/7 of the team

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And it would at worst be like the 183 used to be and we all know where that led (luckily!)

delicate barn Aug 1, 2020, 1:59 AM

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The maps are way too small for artillery, and plus they are bad enough in world of tanks

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 1:59 AM

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leopard has 250m view range while SU100 has 350m view range???
whaaaaa???

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 2:00 AM

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@storm apex Uh, no

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storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i must be looking at the wrong website lol.
how should I play the leopard tier 5?

glass crypt Aug 1, 2020, 2:06 AM

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"SHOTGUN", stay with allies, peek-a-boom a lot and uhhhh, dont mess with heavies

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Move around and spam people with shots, it's accurate enough. For some tanks you need to get to their sides though because of the bad-ish pen

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The whole German light line is a shadow of its former self. Pretty mediocre the lot of them

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But whoever goes for the Leopard 1 should have enough experience to make any of the more or less decent tanks before work, because otherwise you are quite simply not ready for a tank like the Leopard 1

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 2:10 AM

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then I should probably give up on my hopes and dreams then... 😭

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I mean, you can go for it, but it's not easy to play

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Played 2 rounds in the VK 16 just now. It's tragically bad

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:13 AM

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You need map knowledge and awareness and then you are basically set. but don't take my word for it, I'm also only a "great" player if you believe WN8

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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lol ok.
I might just go for russian tds and heavies
and do my best with my Russian RNG😁

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Op

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I’m at the SU-100 but idk what TD to go for, I know SU-101 has 305ish HEAT pen are tier 7 and the tier X is a DPM monster but SU-152 is the standard choice because memes and that good BL-10 at the ISU is calling me.

dapper hound Aug 1, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Can someone tell me how good the M3 Lee is in Blitz? I'm thinking of buying it if it ever does come into the store

karmic igloo Aug 1, 2020, 2:24 AM

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M3 lee isnt bad but it isnt that good either

dapper hound Aug 1, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Ok

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:27 AM

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@solid gate the 263 line is something for lovers, they have bad gundepression even for Russian standards but make up for it with dpm, armour or a mix of it. It's a dpm-assault-td playstyle and if you like it, by all means go for it (though the Foch (155) is arguably the king of that playstyle). The 268 branch however is a standard for derp-assault-td early on and then slowly transfers to multiuse-assault-td which is a solid choice for a lot of situations

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If you absolutely hate assault tds both lines aren't for you. You can try the armoured tds up to the E3 (though they have a bit of a bad reputation at the moment), up to the 183 (excluding the 183) and the Jg E100 (which is a strong line) or support tds like the Grille 15 instead if you want td gameplay regardless

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If you are unsure then the 268 line is the safer choice

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You can of course camp in all those tanks if you want to as well...

hoary pelican Aug 1, 2020, 2:45 AM

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where IS KRAMVAGN?????

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Kranvagn is around the corner in a hulldown position, so don't push out sideways

hoary pelican Aug 1, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I MEAN when Is the tank Will pop out to blitz

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Next update or the update after that. Unless there were issues during testing and WG decides to run another test iteration

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Should I get a tier 8 tank or a tier 9

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Tier nine tanks tend to be very enjoyable, so i recommend you taking a peek in there if you don't have yet. However, starting from tier nine and especially in tier ten you might have to pay more credits than you earn in a game, so unless you want to drive with a bare minimal setup you should have a tier eight or tier seven tank (preferably premium) to grind credits should it be necessary

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Ok should I buy the e 75 or the t30

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:55 AM

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That's a tough one... I'd say E75 because the E100 is a better tank than the T110E4, but both the E75 and the T30 are good tier nine tanks

lyric oriole Aug 1, 2020, 2:57 AM

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T30 if you want a fun tank, E 75 if you actually want to finish a line

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 2:58 AM

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I follow that point of view ⬆️

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Don't get me wrong, the E4 can be very good and is a nice tank to play, but the E100 is such a nice drive that feels very nice and rewarding to play

lyric oriole Aug 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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~~T110E4 is pitifully bad right now, there is no reason to play it over E 100 if you had both in theory~~

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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~~I have both, E4 just has awesome gun handling and doesn't feel as much as if you are just stomping some tanks~~

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Which tank is better with the 2nd gun researched. Currently I have the 105 for the e 75 researched from the king tiger and I have the 120 for the t30 from the t28 proto. Which tank would less painful to grind. (I’m willing to spend free xp for the e 75 top turret since stock is poop

lyric oriole Aug 1, 2020, 3:01 AM

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E 75 is less painful

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I'd actually say the T30

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Both guns are kind of underwhelming and it just depends on how fast you get the top gun

lyric oriole Aug 1, 2020, 3:02 AM

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The guns sure, but T30 has poor survivability compared to E 75

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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So i guess whichever tank has the lower xp cost on the top gun

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Ok thx think I’m gonna for the e 75

kindred wren Aug 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I wish you fun with it

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Thx but it’s gonna be a bit painful cuz pen and mostly mm

rotund palm Aug 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Just use gold if you can't pen something

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 4:16 AM

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For the e 75 top 105 gun should I run rammer or cal shells

lyric oriole Aug 1, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I ran the Rammer but that was before calibrated shells existed 😂

It's up to you, if you don't use APCR much then I would advise you to use Cali for now

nocturne sage Aug 1, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Ok thanks

acoustic pollen Aug 1, 2020, 4:41 AM

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anyone know, if I upgrade the gun on the KV-1S to the 122mm D-2-5T, does that carry over to the IS?? because its the same model of gun, same price of xp, but on the IS the reload time goes down

still oyster Aug 1, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Which one is better to move up from Sherman. Chaffee,T37, or M4?

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Either chaffee or the t37. Do you want a autoloader or a derp light in the end?

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I loved the American med line but it is not in a great state atm

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Tbh if you are a new player and this is your first line, i would suggest shifting to another line

still oyster Aug 1, 2020, 4:51 AM

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I have all lines to t6 except EU and china

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Then i guess it is fine lol. Sheridan line is probably better and less painful as well

still oyster Aug 1, 2020, 4:53 AM

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I do need another light, only have 2 light atm

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:53 AM

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So yes go for the chaffe. It is a nice tier 6. And it leads to bulldog and the t49

neat nimbus Aug 1, 2020, 5:15 AM

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i assume the jagdtiger 8.8 is gonna be this year twister cup prize event like the on we had last year

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should i buy this?

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haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 5:21 AM

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T30 is better than E4 , change my mind4

tepid smelt Aug 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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@haughty forge cant lol

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 5:22 AM

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they can replace it with giving it more hull armor and more dpm and pen

neat nimbus Aug 1, 2020, 5:24 AM

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well here goes nothing

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i need prepare for the swedish tanks

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any tips for it

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 7:00 AM

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ARL 44 is trash change my mind

rotund palm Aug 1, 2020, 8:12 AM

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What's a WT Auf E100?

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@rotund palm It's a tank that was removed from PC (and replaced with Grille 15). Basically, imagine a Jgpz E-100, then replace the casemate with a fully rotating turret with the same size and armor as an FV 4005

And then give it an autoloader with 6 shells, 560 alpha (later nerfed to 490), and 2s between shells

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I think it also had an option for a 150mm autoloader gun but it wasn’t as nice as the 560/490 alpha gun

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Yeah, it had a 15cm, but no one used that

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Wasn’t that also capable of one clipping tanks? But with lesser time needed to do the damage?

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Both could do it the 128 held one more shell the 150mm was mainly for wiping out easier alot preferred the 128 for better gun stats in pc

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:23 AM

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15cm was 4*750 IIRC

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:24 AM

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I think it was 4-5 shots before it got removed from PC i need to watch some replays

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Also, WT E-100 ought to replace Grille on Blitz. #WTF100_5*460

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:27 AM

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I would find that hilarious if it were to happen tbh they would too

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Nah, Blitz devs hate fun, and they hate autoloaders even more

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:29 AM

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looks at early 2 shot foch

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:29 AM

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looks at other platforms with 3 shot foch and foch B

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:29 AM

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we have fake fv 4005 at least

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:30 AM

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4005 is pretty wack though its only got amazing pen and consumables going for it

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:31 AM

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I loved 4005 even in test, before it had consumables

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:31 AM

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4005 last year on debut was the best the whole line was great

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Although, it's really, really frustrating that Blitz only has one viable autoloader with 4 shells at tier 8+

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:32 AM

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I miss old charioteer and conway

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Everyone on Blitz is so used to tiny freaking autoloaders that they conflate clip potential with alpha

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I honestly have no idea how people prefer the autoloader on bulldog and say its better than T71

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I wish more tanks had 4 shots in the clip. Was nice with the 50 100 but they had to make so many of the autoloaders 3 shots

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:33 AM

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ofc we do , but 4 shot would be nice

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:34 AM

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3 shots is incredibly boring, albeit not quite as bad as the absolute joke that are 2 shell autoloaders

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Poor spah panzer

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:35 AM

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@solid gate I don't think I know anyone who uses the autoloader on the bulldog

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:36 AM

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youd be surprised the amount of people who state autoloading bulldog is a better choice than the top gun in the general channel

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:36 AM

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The single shot works so much better

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:37 AM

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I love autoloaders, and even I use the single shot

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:37 AM

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I have to hide with the autoloader when I’m done firing, and so I can’t even use the mobility because I have nothing to fire

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The single shot hits so well on the move too, so i like just running around and putting in shots

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Who doesnt i had a discussion with someone familar about it and explained just get a T71 at that point and they just exclaimed they liked it for hit and running

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Single shot allows you to actually kill isolated tanks

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T71 is marginally more accurate than M41 autoloader

Also, FWIW, M41 autoloader ought to be 6 shells; it was 10 on other platforms

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:39 AM

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With the same 160 alpha?

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Technically the 76mm autoloaders should also get massive clip buffs but getting permatracked for 700-800 isnt fun at tier 7 or 8

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:40 AM

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@hushed shadow 150, but close enough

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:41 AM

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On pc? I’m asking if the alpha would be 160 on blitz, same as the single shot

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:41 AM

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@solid gate Well, it takes 2 shots from a 76 to track a tank at tier 7, and then they use their rep kit, so that's another 2, and if they're using double rep kits, that's your full clip

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@hushed shadow Yeah, PC was 10*150, so 160*6 seems reasonable to me for Blitz, or even 160*5 at the least

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Even if the blitz team chose that route for autoloaders they could have another US light line ready for it too

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 8:44 AM

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It’d be interesting that way, but the damage potential is high, and maybe they could give it some long clip reload. It has the mobility to run off and hide too

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:44 AM

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more clip = more reload

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:45 AM

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@hushed shadow See, this is what I mean by Blitz players conflating clip potential with alpha. When the clip gets to be that size, clip potential is a very distinct concept. Remember that the current single shooter bulldog can fire 4 shells in roughly the same time frame

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:45 AM

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This does remind me i actually did do some digging almost a year ago now and i did put together an idea for another light line but that runs off the proposal for huge clip autoloaders

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:45 AM

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considering how small maps are , how fast games are, we will be sticking with current clippers

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:48 AM

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actually now that i think of it the US could have 3 light lines

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:49 AM

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@hushed shadow Also, assuming a 6*160 clip with 2s between shells, a 22s base reload would give it 1800 base DPM, or less than a Nameless, and 22s is pretty reasonable for Blitz

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:50 AM

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There is a tank the US made during the 70s-80s that had a gigantic clip and highly advanced 76mm

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HSTV it was called i went crazy for it exactly a year ago

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@wise moth

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pliant lodge Aug 1, 2020, 8:53 AM

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I don't think so....

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:53 AM

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A 76mm autoloader would need a 1.33s interclip maximum to be remotely competitive at tier X. And at least 8 shells

pliant lodge Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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That's kinda unfair for other light tanks with either no armor or slow reload.

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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That was the original proposal i had for it if you look through my messages of HSTV you can find my stuff on it

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Theres alot of lost history on it but most common stuff on it seems to be 1 sec reload in the 39 drum and telescopic ammunition

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:56 AM

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1s interclip with 8 shells could be balanced. 7s to do 1280 would be reasonable, even by Blitz standards

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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The thing could reach 80kmh 100 with a V12 also barely mentioned the armor is really thin thin as bulldog iirc

wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Although 80km/h sounds pretty not balanced

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Yea thats a gray area although it borrows the sheridans gearbox so capping it at 65 should do

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I actually was able to find corresponding tanks and put together a line if you want To hear about it

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 9:02 AM

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do it @solid gate

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 9:04 AM

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The US had a long history of wanting an airborne tank coincidentally enough alot of these airborne tank prototypes incorporated autoloaders and dates back to m41 bulldog and scorpion T71 sort of being related to it the T92 was afaik the first true airborne possible tank in the US equipped with a 76mm autoloader and not the false sheridan turret like the fake E1

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Although T92 was Not chosen for reasons but the Us was able to come up with sheridan also air portable

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But sheridan was a mess on its own which lead to further air droppable tank development which to massive advancements in the 70s lead to the RDF tank (Rapid Deployment Force)

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haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 9:09 AM

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gun is scary

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 9:09 AM

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RDF was merely a prototype and lead to another prototype HSTV there is very limited information on the two but the HSTV had the ares 76mm HV gun as seen above with a capable autoloading system and hydro suspension

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wise moth Aug 1, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Siege mode autoloader 🤔

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Basically T92 can fill the T8 role branching off the T71 with either single shot or 5-6 round clip at the tier carrying off the T71s excellent mobility and further improving off its autoloader and gun statistics

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The RDF can take up the T9 spot and show A glimpse of the autoloaders full potential and speeds being the predeccessor to the drummer

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HSTV being the last of the line with its autoloader and speed

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 10:22 AM

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it’s on armored warfare assault, with a high rof and low alpha, and high mobility. Worked nice there, just doing a lot of shots to slowly kill the enemy, but with the mobility it could circle a lot of tanks. Haven’t played that game for a while tho, it became bad after a certain update there

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 2:11 PM

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When will they finally buff Luchs his Hull turn rate??? Its now only 31 deg/sec 👎

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

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does e3 has weak spots on front?

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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T110E3? The lower part of its front is pennable, but only the very low part. That’s what I always aim for on the front

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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hard to hit :/

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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The lowerplate i guess. The drivewheels, once you get a little to the side. Also small sections of the cheeks with high pen heat

thick trout Aug 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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This is where you aim if it's hiding its lower plate, the cupola is basically impenetrable so only worth going for HE spam if you have a large calibre

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haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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wth , that is very small , i cant hit it without taking dmg....

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yes and that is one reason why the e3 so damn good

hushed shadow Aug 1, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yea but it’s the only way to do any damage if they get their armor like that

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

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When you see an e3 looking at you, turn around and flank it. Or switch to HE if you have large enough gun. There isn't much point trying to trade with it frontally

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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with conway or jagdtiger i cant :/ those are only my only tier 9 , i guess i will use HE on conway

fast compass Aug 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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You can shoot it here if you have a shot at this angle available

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haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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not when he is focusing and i cant even circle em cuz of his allies,

thick trout Aug 1, 2020, 4:42 PM

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If he's looking at you then you shouldn't even be attempting to outtrade it

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It's basically one of the best tanks you can get to hold a position, but it's sluggish and very vulnerable on the sides and rear. You need to try and bait it to overextend or wait for the rest of its team to leave it behind

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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hmm ok

thick trout Aug 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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The only thing you now have to remember is that is has the 🐂💩 consumables so if it has the engine boost it can keep up and react to a med very well for 20 seconds

hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Shoot low on the cupola with HE. It does a ton of damage to them

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Even 122 he will make the e3 back off

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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If you have no other options, HE’ing the cupola is the best bet. 120mms can do okay damage, but the higher calibers it’s more worth it.
Thing about the cupola is that you are likely to damage the commander, loaders and occasionally the driver, so if you have a 120mm caliber gun like on the E5 or Chieftain, you can splash it, force the E3 to use their medkit, then do it again and they end up with dead crew members for a significant amount of time.

Obviously you don’t have the luxury of being able to do this all the time, but it’s something to keep in mind if you find yourself in this sort of scenario.

This is a picture I posted previously which is one example of what I am talking about.
@haughty forge

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hollow notch Aug 1, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Poor guy

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah, unfortunately he thought he would be invincible hiding his hull.
Too bad his cupola stuck out like a sore thumb

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Is the E3 a good TD? I’m at the T95 right now and wondering if I should keep the T95 as a trophy tank or go for the tier 10?

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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e3 is extremely strong

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@solid gate Yes E3 is very good, I recommend going for it.
The tank is also very simple to use well.
Keep the front towards the enemy, hide your lower plate wherever you can, and keep close to your teammates.

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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So the E3 is the same type of tank as the Jadgtiger 8.8 just at tier 10 with a false cupola

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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stronger than Jagditger

restive ravine Aug 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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M41 bulldog, should upgrade motor first or gun ?

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Engine. The stock gun is bearable and you need to use the speed to play the bulldog anyway

restive ravine Aug 1, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Thx 😁

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Are the tier 9 press any good? Mainly play US heavies and mediums, wondering if any of them play like a 103

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Should a upgrade the gun or engine in the tiger 2

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@solid gate gun

solid gate Aug 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Alright

real gorge Aug 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I need tips on K91 guys

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Bully meds, play smart vs heavies. Don’t rely on your armor

real gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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What is the armor profile I’m going to be working with? Weak hull strong turret?

keen escarp Aug 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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:)

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I got the Wz 120 Today about 10 hours ago

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Big lower plate and a large, unreliable turret @real gorge

real gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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So it has no armor?

celest shard Aug 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Hey, I want to get the is5 but I dont know how much gold it costs right now, can anyone help?

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@celest shard 1.5k

celest shard Aug 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Really? Only 1.5k?

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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@real gorge no, it can get some bounces, especially from mediums and low pen guns, but it is nothing to rely on. Definitely not what you would expect from armor on a heavy.

celest shard Aug 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I thought it cost 2.5k

real gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Thank you!

gentle wasp Aug 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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No problem :)
@celest shard nope it is 1.5k

celest shard Aug 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Thanks

lost tree Aug 1, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Is4 vs Is7? Which is better AND why?

haughty forge Aug 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Is4 better overall

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 8:24 PM

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IS-4.
Better armour, and a gun with more accuracy and HEAT rounds with 340 pen (without CS)

kind bluff Aug 1, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Is-4 bc its the most forgiving tank in tier 10

lost tree Aug 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Ok thank you

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Problem is, I’m already at IS-8 on the is7 line and I’m only at tier 6 on the is4 line :(

real gorge Aug 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Is4 would be well worth the grind

lost tree Aug 1, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Yeah but what’s gonna suck is the ST-I I’ve heard some bad things about it

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But I hate pike noses even though the is7 is still pretty good and I enjoyed the is3 a lot

south vale Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 PM

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The ST-1 is below average at worst. It carries the same hull as the IS-4 and a larger turret, but the same gun.

tulip edge Aug 1, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@lost tree The ST-I is a good tier nine heavy.
The upper frontal hull and turret hold up very well, and you get 8 degrees of gun depression which goes very well with the turret.
If you ever get to the ST-I, the best advice I can give you is to save up free xp to go through the modules.
Just as a note, the second gun on the IS-8 is also the second gun on the ST-I, so that’ll save a significant amount of xp for you

rustic gate Aug 1, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Bat chat or fv301?

viral lodge Aug 1, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I’m assuming you mean lines, cause one is a tier 9-10 and the other is a T8. Going off that probably the Vickers light line since they are really strong rn.

rustic gate Aug 1, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yea, I mean lines. just realized how dumb of a question that was 😅

storm apex Aug 1, 2020, 9:54 PM

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When I get to bounce 3 shots off 2 KV2s in an SU-100
satisfaction at its finest

rotund palm Aug 1, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Is AMX 50B worth grinding for?

mental violet Aug 1, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Its a fun tank to play

rotund palm Aug 1, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Is it worth it?

mental violet Aug 1, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Depends, I like the playstyle but it is more of a niche tank. There are easier/better tanks out there. But I rate the 50B as a good support tank

sage hare Aug 1, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Don't u think guys the fv 183 shape so old I mean in pc it's not wide and big like this also the turret is very much strong from front so shouldn't upgrade the shape???

orchid nymph Aug 1, 2020, 10:46 PM

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AMX50B is really good. the hp buff and its ability to go 50kph helps you roll them the meds and the autoloader can put out 1200 damage with a dpm of 3000

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also has -10 degrees of gun depression too.

strange thicket Aug 1, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Don't u think guys the fv 183 shape so old I mean in pc it's not wide and big like this also the turret is very much strong from front so shouldn't upgrade the shape???
@sage hare the tank won't get buffed and don't compare blitz to pc
different map sizes

tulip sail Aug 1, 2020, 11:48 PM

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There entirely different

sage willow Aug 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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thoughts on k91? details would help to play better with it

merry slate Aug 2, 2020, 1:24 AM

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side scrape at strong angles like 150 degrees, great tank, i personally run it better than obj252U, great tank

karmic nymph Aug 2, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Well the 252u is a tier 8, the k91 is a tier 9...

sage willow Aug 2, 2020, 1:37 AM

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is armour SLIGHTLY better?

fervent sand Aug 2, 2020, 1:40 AM

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(K-91) Side scrap and hull down, some tanks can pen it but if you keep moving you will get some nice bounces

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:11 AM

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My IS-3 stats
avg winrate: 39%
avg kdr: 0.25
avg xp: 400

plz send help

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:16 AM

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@storm apex U still stock?

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:18 AM

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I am at the IS and idk if the Is3 is worth it or not, I see that it has a super weak hull but a strong turret with terrible gun depression

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4 me it was worth it, way better turret than most Russian heavies, good mobility and if you get that sucker hull down on himmelsdwarf or middle burg properly nothing but the biggest guns with pramo at that tier is gonna pen that turret

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:21 AM

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IS-3 is awesome. Very worth. Strongest turret at tier 8, and it's not even close. And the hull is super low profile and easy to hide, being barely taller than a 252U lower plate (if you can hide a 252 lower plate, you can hide an IS-3 hull). And that's not to mention the mobility and accuracy (for IS tank standards at least). Also, the hull isn't even that bad. If you have less than 200mm pen, you might actually have some issues penning it @solid gate

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Hitting the cupola is also hard to hit unlike is6 or is5

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Dude just drive up upon one of your teammates or an enemy corpse and just absolutely rail people with your decent gun and good turret @storm apex or hide next to a rock u can also side scrape in it it just isn’t ideal or very good

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By drive up on one of your teammates I meant one of their tank corpses and use them to hull down

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Tanks with popped turrets do best for a hull down is3

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@solid gate Not even big guns with prammo are gonna pen. This is SU-101 HEAT with calibrated shells, with 374mm of penetration. Red as a tomato

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lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I find that when I use an is3 I just go hull down and I’m practically invincible until something flanks me then I panic and start to move my hull into a pennable location

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:26 AM

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More red than I thought

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Yea dude is3 is super good there are just better things

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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And here's a 112-2 facing the same ammo

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solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Is3 is way better than is5 or is6 turrets

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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It's not even close really

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Yeah is3 turret is like quad layered titanium and then like Minecraft bedrock underneath it

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Honestly one of my favorite tanks, I would rather play is3 than IS-8

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@lost tree Honestly, I still believe that IS-3 is the king. It only trades frontal hull armor, but in exchange it gains more mobility, gun stats, and of course the legendary turret compared to other IS tanks

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And the frontal hull isn't even a problem because the thing is so flippin short, and against lower pen tanks, they'll still struggle sometimes

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:29 AM

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It’s fast, it’s strong, it’s lacking a bit of accuracy, not a HORRIBLE stock grind but not super good but other than the mentioned problems it’s very good

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Literally the only "problem" is the frontal hull armor

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Which can sometimes be trolly

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Exactly.

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:30 AM

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is the IS3 a frontline or second line vehicle

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Frontline and second

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Mostly frontline in my experience

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Frontline

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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It depends on ur play style really and ur level of skill

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 AM

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See, I can't find a proper hulldown position
I can't do flat, cuz no hulldown at all, no hills, cuz no gun depression, no city, cuz no hull down except a few

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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If u don’t know how to wield a pike nose and ur playing frontline without cover ur dead

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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yea I kinda figured that out with my 39% win rate
*on my IS3

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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But dude literally every map has multiple hull down meme spots

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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ik, but I can't find them 😦

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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You just gotta get more experience working with the -5 gun depression is all

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Best map for is3 (for me) is himmelsdorf

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Yeah IS isn’t very angle”y” like many other vehicles in the game and yes I agree himmelsdorf is OP for any pike nose really

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:33 AM

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yea himmelsdorf is the only map that i can see lots of hull down positions

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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There are some other maps

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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enlighten me plz i can't stand getting penned anymore

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Yes like that map with the couple buildings in the center with the bridges in the forest I’m blanking on the name

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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oh like the one with hills on 1 side and a long path on the other?

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Middle burg (hill) if your team decides to go there or new bay with the small mounds

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Yes Russian the one with like a bunch of moats in between the town and like 2 long paths around the sides

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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yea that one i know what ur talking about

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Your name makes

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Yea I’m blanking on the name, do u want to platoon maybe I can show u a bit how to play the is3

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Also, if you can't find a hulldown spot, and you're forced to play on flat ground, sometimes you can use the "Stalin angle" to quick peek a corner if the enemy isn't preaiming you

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lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Yes then the other side of the pike nose isn’t pennable because it will bounce

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:36 AM

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im rly tired and have to sleep now @lost tree but maybe sometime we can platoon :)
@wise moth that looks sick i never thought of that thx

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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This will only reveal a small part of pennable armor. Most of what they'll see is an unpennble part of the pike and the turret @lost tree They can pen you if they aim, but this allows you to peek people efficiently if they're not ready to blast you the second you peek

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Depending on the enemy angle and how many you are against though and ok Russian maybe tomorrow

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Only really works on IS-3 though due to the super front mounted turret and shallow pike angling. Most other pike nose tanks are too sharp

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:37 AM

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"blast you the second you peek"
BOOM armor penetrated! ammo rack hit! we're on fire!
lol true

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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that’s for is7

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I have a 78% win rate on the tiger 131 lol

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Actually, IS-3 modules are pretty good. Nothing except the driver is in the front, and nothing's going through the turret, so your modules are safe

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solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I have 83 on t1 heavy

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:38 AM

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How many games played I have like 150 played on tiger 131

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@wise moth mhm. I've never really needed to repair modules or anything

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:39 AM

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I like ur name btw @wise moth

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@solid gate the T1 heavy is so thicc frontally lol

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@storm apex Contrast that with IS-5 for instance. The front is STUFFED with ammo

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storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:40 AM

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ppl say IS3 is a classic and a favorite.
im going to take another crack at it tomorrow. Thanks for all the advice guys!
@lost tree hopefully we can play a platoon sometime 🙂

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Yep no worries

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:41 AM

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1 more thing. what's the website where ppl see whether a tank can be penned by another tank
the one that positive used

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Blitz hangar n blitz stars are the only websites I know related to wot blitz

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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It's in the screenshot, armor.wotinspector.com (also it's in the play/app store as "Armor Inspector"). It costs money to see the red/green profiles and stuff, but it's worth it. I love it, and you can still see nominal armor thicknesses. Also, you can use blitzhangar.com to see relative armor thicknesses, but no red/green highlight, and it doesn't account for normalization @storm apex

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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ok. gn!

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Time to head to another channel

keen escarp Aug 2, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I got a mastery on T 34 2

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 3:45 AM

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I got a mastery on the is3 because it’s godly

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:02 AM

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this camouflage is a mess i cant even see the footsteps which is why called sinister trails

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orchid bronze Aug 2, 2020, 4:05 AM

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You rlly buy camoS? xd

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:06 AM

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no but why wg put some pretty bad camos

clever magnet Aug 2, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Obj704 sucks

tulip sail Aug 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Are you stock?

clever magnet Aug 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Max with 97% crew

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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just hope wg retires sinister trails soon

gentle wasp Aug 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Just don’t buy it. Why does it bother you so much

clever magnet Aug 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Armor wise it’s a lie

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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its desing and colors

gentle wasp Aug 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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It’s not meant to have much armor. It can get the occasional troll bounce but you shouldn’t rely on it @clever magnet

clever magnet Aug 2, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Yeah. Just looks like a heavily armored tank

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Uhhhh the hell is my luck rn

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neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:12 AM

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i studiied graphic desing and i kinda developed a instinc tells me what's wrong

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jeez i hope they put bastille the next update

clever magnet Aug 2, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Yes for my precious baguette

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That I never use at all.... FCM...

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i got desert wind for all tiers and crimson fury for only tier 8

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i need to repass the color theory

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cuz that camo made my head suffer

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sorry just giving my opinion

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i think can improve if the red lines were thicker

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did this tank have a legendary camo?

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tulip sail Aug 2, 2020, 4:41 AM

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No the type 59 did

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i remember was that tank the 59 patton

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 5:14 AM

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59 Patton Aratinga

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It was available at missions but not on gamos to buy.

neat nimbus Aug 2, 2020, 5:33 AM

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dang

mint aurora Aug 2, 2020, 7:17 AM

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What should i research first? Turret, engine, tracks?

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sharp spindle Aug 2, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I might be getting one of the T9s in the store, and if I do, should I get the T-55A, K-91 or KpfPz 70?

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 7:32 AM

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@mint aurora Gun -> Turret -> Tracks -> Engine

sharp spindle Aug 2, 2020, 7:33 AM

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The Tigers aren't the best without their top turrets.

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I'm tempted to get the K-91 because it's permanently enriched, but I'm not sure which is the best of the three.

mint aurora Aug 2, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Thx👍

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 7:43 AM

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@sharp spindle All of them make roughly the same amount of credits. Popular opinion is that K-91 and AMX 30 1er prot are the best, T-55A is ok, and no one likes the Kpfz (even though it's not that bad honestly).

Personally, I'm partial to the T-55, but it's probably harder to make the most of compared to the K-91 and AMX. Between the K91 and AMX though, it really depends on what you want.

AMX is a pretty standard med playstyle, goes reasonably fast, has a pretty reasonable gun, and a reasonable turret with 10 degrees gun depression, almost like a faster tier 9 M26 Pershing.

K-91 is a weird autoloader support heavy, kind of like a Conqueror, but with an autoloader

sharp spindle Aug 2, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Thanks for the advice. I reckon I'll go with either the K-91 or T-55 because I'm used to the support role and flanking around enemies. I'm not sure how I should play them, but when I buy one or the other, I'll try to get used to their playstyle in private training rooms first.

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 8:01 AM

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59 Patton Aratinga was on as a pop up sale last year

jaunty remnant Aug 2, 2020, 8:02 AM

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I got tiger 2

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Yo i justunlocked the derpgun for the t49

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:09 AM

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@solid gate Please don't be one of those nubs who can't actually afford to run the derp gun, but uses it anyway and shoots HEAT only and misses/bounces every shot

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:11 AM

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How the hell do u accurately hitshots with the derp

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Ahh so u have to always use he with this then

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:13 AM

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@solid gate Yeah, you have to spam the HE. Which is why if you can't afford to use it, you should probably just use the 90mm to grind it

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:14 AM

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So at what instance do u use heat then

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:17 AM

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@solid gate The HEAT is for targets that you have no chance of penning with HE, that you are sure you can pen with the HEAT shell, so stuff like flat sides of German heavies, and the fronts of lightly armored medium tanks (I mean lightly armored, you can't even pen the front of an AMX 50 100 with the HEAT), and the backs of IS tanks. For everything else, you should load HE

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:17 AM

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k understood

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also should note you cant even pen a 252U rear on the biggest flat spot the smaller lower rear plate will go through though

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:20 AM

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On paper, 152mm of penetration doesn't sound that bad, but since it's HEAT, not being able to pen anything through the tracks and having 0 normalization makes it really bad.

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And IS tanks are pretty much the bane of your existence. The sides are all tracks/spaced armor, so if you want to hit a penetrating shot, you have to hit them in the rear, but most of the time you'll be forced to just HE splash for like 250 or something

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I despise tier 8 for the IS spam

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Ok i played some battles with this tank.so u have to be always flanking to screw others up lol

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Pretty much

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Also, if you needed more convincing that HE is the way to go, this is pretty satisfying

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solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Man this is a expensive tank to run lol

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I did warn you that you might not be able to afford it lol @solid gate

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Man

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War gaming was on some sort of drugs when they decided tomake he premium in this tank

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What? You cant be serious

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I mean u cant pen shit with heat

wise moth Aug 2, 2020, 9:58 AM

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It's their way of trying to discourage people from spamming the tank with the derp gun. WG has already stated that the derp gun isn't supposed to be the main gun @solid gate

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Its there way of balancing it too because cheap HE=massive HE spam

haughty forge Aug 2, 2020, 9:59 AM

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@wise moth dam nice mod u got there

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 10:01 AM

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@wise moth ahh

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Well then onwards to grind the non derp gun then

ancient vigil Aug 2, 2020, 10:02 AM

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rotund palm Aug 2, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Why tf is there trolls on Tier 8 (A platoon of Trollers) Tried to block my Toon mate Mauschen even though They could see that a Toon of Mauschen makes them a meat shield and they even told the team to report us lol

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I only helped my toon mate by pushing both of em in enemy fire and blocking the way out

kindred wren Aug 2, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Eh

sharp spindle Aug 2, 2020, 11:53 AM

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I'm possibly going to be getting one of the T9's in store tomorrow. I have my sights set on the T-55A and K-91. Which should I get?

tulip edge Aug 2, 2020, 11:59 AM

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I recommend you go for the K-91.

kindred wren Aug 2, 2020, 12:00 PM

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K-91 is a very good tank that you best play in sidescrape with a decent turret and a good autoloader and the T-55A is like the T-54 just with worse armour frontally

rotund palm Aug 2, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Is Wot PC full of bugs Cause when i play my friend's acc and grind for Maus My Mäuschen flies when i ram a dead tank body

kindred wren Aug 2, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I don't hear many complaints about bugs from WoT PC but that might be because they are too busy hating wheeled vehicles and artillery

rotund palm Aug 2, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Artilleries the thing i hate about WoT PC

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And i also forgot Tanks can flip on PC lol

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две мин назад сделал! что это за модератор люди просто писали в том числе и я искал турнирную команду и тут бан

pliant lodge Aug 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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@sick raft only english please.

sick raft Aug 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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ban

tulip edge Aug 2, 2020, 2:42 PM

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@sick raft The bot won’t let me post discord links, but I DM’d you a link to the RU Discord

undone yew Aug 2, 2020, 2:45 PM

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guys how to use vk 3001p in bottom tier

lyric copper Aug 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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support DPM

tulip edge Aug 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@undone yew
Play second line and act as a supporting tank for your tanks.
You especially want to play second line when fighting higher tier mediums because they will out-DPM you by a significant amount - and your armour is very likely not to save you

regal mist Aug 2, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Lower tier tanks are mostly support, unless its like 1 or 2 tanks from.the upper tier

ancient vigil Aug 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Russians won’t get banned.

azure creek Aug 2, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i think type-59 needs a buff ( gun penetration), at the moment there are so many premium and non premium tanks which are implemented into a game who got good pen and armor. That makes this tank outdated, i suggest give type59 a gun pen buff: AP 190 to 205, APCR 255 to 265, HE doesn’t really matter. It looks minimal, but will help for players to do something nowadays.

shell forum Aug 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I'll be honest... As a T-44 I am envious at 190mm pen AP... I only have 175mm pen...

thick trout Aug 2, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Do. Not. Use. The. 122. 🤦‍♀️

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If you want to do even half decently that is, if you want fun then knock yourself out with your awful T-34-2

hollow notch Aug 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

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It would be nice if the just removed the 122 from the t44

tulip edge Aug 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@shell forum Are you using the 122mm or 100mm

shell forum Aug 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

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100mm LB-1

lyric oriole Aug 2, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@solid gate has witnessed my abilities with the 122 on the T-44 but for a normal player yes, use the 100mm gun.

Unless you are good at working with Low DPM and trading I wouldn't advise most people to use it.

hollow notch Aug 2, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@lyric oriole unless you want a t34 2 or t34 3 with a gun that is significantly worse in every way, I would not recommend it

lyric oriole Aug 2, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I've done it, and it works, still does, don't know why but it just does.

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 8:16 PM

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He makes the 122 work just fine

thick trout Aug 2, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Personally I find the 122 to be awesome fun and somehow I've managed to get a 72% WR including grinding the crew all solo but that's mostly luck

If you have anything except the 122 then prammo works just fine

lyric oriole Aug 2, 2020, 8:18 PM

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The 122 + the actual armor T-44 has vs. T-34-2 makes it much more comfortable to use for me

candid arch Aug 2, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Dracula’s gun clips through its hull everywhere on the back

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But Tiger P has so much room and no more than 3* on the back

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low elk Aug 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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looks at brommie and some other british tanks

candid arch Aug 2, 2020, 8:19 PM

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This game has some weird things

lyric oriole Aug 2, 2020, 8:21 PM

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You have to keep in mind the whole gun in the turret can only go so far up

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You can see it with a few of the tank Destroyers with open cabins such as Hellcat, T28 Prototype, Sturer Emil, etc.

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I want the drac so badly

shell forum Aug 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Isn't it an AMX CDC except better?

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I hate those tier 7 fake tanks, though they usually fall easily to my tiger duo

shell forum Aug 2, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Btw @lyric oriole , the term you are seeking is the gun breach hitting the turret roof

lyric oriole Aug 2, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Thanks

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yeah drac is a CDC but everything is better. I hate my CDC but that’s probably because I’m a heavy player

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I hate the tiger II lol

shell forum Aug 2, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Might like the CDC, didn't bought it when it came sincd it get the universal no from everyone I know

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I’m a medium and light player even though I’m going down heavy tech lines right now I’m not playing the best

regal mist Aug 2, 2020, 8:57 PM

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@solid gate i am a heavy high alpha player but i love the cdc i think its the best and funnest tier 8 medium. But thats my opinion lol.

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Alright, I’m just super bad at playing unarmored medium/light tanks. Just check my blitzstars in it and laugh at how bad I am in it

candid arch Aug 2, 2020, 9:21 PM

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CDC would be the best but T49 is existent.

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Which you can play around so .—————.

strange thicket Aug 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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i mean sure t49 can slap you for half of your hp
but you still can out dpm it
that is saying it doesn't have teammates backing it up
and you shouldn't be in direct sight of fire in a cdc anyway

candid arch Aug 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Yes

viral lodge Aug 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Chimera is the best T8 med.

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Most fun though is a person to person.
Chimera is my favorite though.

next solstice Aug 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I like my T-34-2

viral lodge Aug 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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T34-2 has a worse gun and less depression but a better turret than the Chimera.

thick trout Aug 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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But it's aim time 🤤

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The chimera is much more forgiving to play but the T-34-2 probably has a higher skill cap

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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chimaera is ugly

hollow moth Aug 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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^

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Also, if you can't find a hulldown spot, and you're forced to play on flat ground, sometimes you can use the "Stalin angle" to quick peek a corner if the enemy isn't preaiming you
@wise moth
i tried it it works like magik

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Hello Russian, platoon? @storm apex

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 11:18 PM

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sry dinner lul

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 11:18 PM

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It’s ok

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 11:18 PM

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also im studying for the SATs a lot so I might not have that much time
I'll definitely ping u if im playing tho
😉

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Yep 👍 no worries

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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yea im in America high school rn lol

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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School is priority so take your time doing whatever you need to, so am I except I’m still on summer break

storm apex Aug 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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k thx. also thx for ur advice i've been winning a bit more!

lost tree Aug 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yep no worries man

solid gate Aug 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Add

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candid arch Aug 3, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Ah yes, Object 279

storm apex Aug 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Why is IS-3 AP so expensive in comparison to HE?
I'm not supposed to be firing HE, am I?

low elk Aug 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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HE is always cheap

storm apex Aug 3, 2020, 12:34 AM

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time to spam it at every moving thing i see

tulip sail Aug 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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That's not a good idea you have low pen and will do very little dmg

inland osprey Aug 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Should I use vents or calibrated shells on the Chi Ri?

gentle wasp Aug 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I’m a fan of vents but the pen is pretty bad so you may have to run CS

inland osprey Aug 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Yeah the pen is really bad lol
Okay I'll try CS

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You know when you drive a Chi-Ri in a tier 8 game, and half of the enemy tanks are as red as the Soviet Union

kind bluff Aug 3, 2020, 1:21 AM

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try to run cali on any autoloader you see

kindred wren Aug 3, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I find taking calibrated over vents in any case questionable

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Vents literally improves your crew by 5% mastery level, which boosts your dpm, your view range, your terrain resistance, your aiming time, your dispersion, your turret turn rate and hull turn rate

solid gate Aug 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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The buffs marginal and is not as powerful as a significant penetration buff

kind bluff Aug 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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dpm is eh for any autoloader since its not like it boosts intraclip
ur just looking for securing all 3 shots, which in most cases pen is better than slight accuracy

kindred wren Aug 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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People are paying up to 10k credits per game for that effect by using provisions and are convinced that it has a significant impact

solid gate Aug 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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But the provisions do though?

kind bluff Aug 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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do they? I just do it cuz why not

kindred wren Aug 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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3k for 3% and 10k for 10% at tier ten

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It's literally the same effect