vehicles-discussion

[plush bobcat]

Was not pleasant

[plucky summit]

Yeah avoid that 😂
Lowe still has big brothers

[plush bobcat]

Maus is a bully😭

[plucky summit]

Mauschen isn't a bully if you have teammates to keep him from pushing, it's a bit easier to hide the weakspots of a Lowe than a Mauschen

[plush bobcat]

Thats kinda hard when the team is scared of a wt hitting them

[plucky summit]

Must be player error being that far up knowing the waffle is there

[plush bobcat]

Lion vs shark

[plucky summit]

Many players would opt for the Shark because it's new and most players are not sure how to counter it effectively, but the Lion is still a competitor >:)

Technically it's better and worse in the hulldown department

[plush bobcat]

Well sharky doesnt seem that scary

[plucky summit]

Not to me, sure it's a great enemy to fight hulldown but not scary

[plush bobcat]

I hate smashers

They He me to the face

[plucky summit]

If you're consistently on it then you'd trade almost 620 for it's 545, even less for HE xD

[plush bobcat]

But why the He tho its blinding

[plucky summit]

They have no choice probably

[plush bobcat]

Well imma sleep ty again for the very help full lessons

[plucky summit]

Np

[nocturne tiger]

can we have a buff for KV 2 :(

[plucky summit]

Nah, it's capable

[rigid spire]

Would it ever be possible to buy the common camouflage with gold, to run with real camouflage on a tank?

[prime vale]

The what?

[solid gate]

hmm... kv1s vs thunder. any difference in their performance?

[tulip sail]

Thunder has a slightly worse dpm and reload but has better armour by 10mm on the turret and 25mm on the hull@solid gate

[prime vale]

I wish I could make my own camo

[solid gate]

Give leopard1 -10gun depression :(
Hard to peek when there's an stb1 against you

[open solstice]

Dont go against stb1 in hulldown then,flank around

[random tartan]

give leo -12 to make it the ultimate flex tank

[viral lodge]

@solid gate @tulip sail Thunder is a better KV-1S you trade a small amount of mobility for better armour and 2 more depression.

A .02 longer reload isn’t even worth talking about.

[haughty forge]

that is not small amount for a heavy tank , they have different elevation too, they are different

[gusty ginkgo]

Thunder is over all a better tank

It’s just a better kv is, end of discussion lol

[solid gate]

Jg pz E100 it a good tank? I like this tank because: Good gun, it Germany, Have a good amor and it huge

[gusty ginkgo]

It is good, you need a team, but it’s a solid tank over all

[solid gate]

Ow ok

[haughty forge]

can hold it is own if you wont get circled

[solid gate]

can hold it is own if you wont get circled
@haughty forge
I like anti-tanks , because it easy to play with this tanks, i just camp and i say ahhaha in global chat

[mortal echo]

Buff amx 30b

[solid gate]

Buff amx 30b
@mortal echo
High explosive and boom

[jade agate]

Buff armor T-2020

[sturdy bane]

has the T28 proto always had this weakspot? feel like i've never seen it before until now

[solid gate]

Dont go against stb1 in hulldown then,flank around
@open solstice
Not easy to play against stb1 or 62a especially when I'm the only medium in ratings team. Also kinda get rekt by vickers when hulldown.

[open solstice]

True but you don't have much options in that case,either be stealth sniper or try spotting for team with lot of risk if you don't want to lose hp

[wise moth]

@sturdy bane It's always been there, and it used to be weaker IIRC

[solid gate]

Well can u give the Sheridan the same gun in world of tanks so we don't have to keep being missled all the time

[hollow belfry]

The mechanic itself remains kind of broken but missiles are no longer as good as they used to be. Once you catch a Sheridan in cqc he’s likely to lose, as the dpm is really low. It also got a mobility nerf a while ago, making it way harder to run away from mediums.

[rotund palm]

Are we allowed to put custom camos in the game?

I've always wanted to make my Maus Pink lol

[stiff vector]

Are we allowed to put custom camos in the game?
@rotund palm
Legally, No, you violate WG EULA for modifying their content
Practically, as long the mods didn't give you advantage in-game or cosmetic-mods only (Custom camo mods included), It's allowed (Ref : http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/31847-mods-in-blitz/)

[keen escarp]

Theres a protest in #737315852650676361

[rotund palm]

So I'm allowed to make my Maus Pink? Since i only use Maus for training rooms

[stiff vector]

So I'm allowed to make my Maus Pink? Since i only use Maus for training rooms
If that the case. yeah, it's fine

[rotund palm]

Why do i keep seeing sheridans with custom camos Saying You're Gay

[hollow belfry]

It’s a mod.

[rotund palm]

I want them Sheridan Camo mod

[keen escarp]

anyone know if i should get the type 59 ding?

[hollow belfry]

Technically missiles have a curved path in the air so when you shoot one it’s not straight

[rotund palm]

Imma start to make my Maus pink

[warm bane]

anyone know when the Centurion 5/1 will come?

[hollow belfry]

Expect 3-4 updates probably.

[warm bane]

uugg

i want it so bad

[hollow belfry]

It will probably be overcooked at the very least, unless they massively nerf it before release

[keen otter]

which one better in term of concealment?
Batchat or Vickers?

[hollow belfry]

Vickers has slightly better camo after shot, otherwise they seem roughly equal

[keen escarp]

Bat chat

Well they both have Legendary Camos so?

[rotund palm]

Does E100 have any Custom camo

[hollow belfry]

No idea. It has an official (not a mod) legendary camo.

[keen otter]

@hollow belfry、I see and thx、I just shot E75 from 235m away in batchat、and I was spotted 🤔

[hollow belfry]

Did you shoot him? Were you using a bush or not?

[keen otter]

I'm in open area、I will give you my screenshot

[rotund palm]

E100 does have Historical Skin but not available for android ;-;

[tacit pecan]

E100 cant have historical camo bc e100 wasnt real🙃

[rotund palm]

But Maus can have GuP skin

[hollow belfry]

Let’s say « wannabe historical paint scheme », that looks more or less realistic.

[rotund palm]

Probably

Imma just buy E100 Legendary Camo

E100 should have a custom camo saying in the sides The British Scrapped me!

[tulip edge]

@keen otter E75 can have a view range of around 280m if using provisions and the binoculars equipment.
You said you were in an open area, so not behind a bush or anything? You lose the majority of your camo rating when you shoot.

[keen otter]

@tulip edge

when I shot at 220-235m I spotted、then I reset my concealment and E75 reversing then I shot him again at 240m (unspotted)

🤔 🤔 🤔

[rotund palm]

Is Lowe better than M6 Exp ?

[stiff vector]

Is Lowe better than M6 Exp ?
credit coefficient? ABSOLUTELY
Performance? Well... i'd say they have different playstyle, so it's hard to compare

[rotund palm]

Lowe is better at making credit thanks for the info cause i wasted 9 mil creds when gravity force was still here

Wasted 9 Mil because i tried to rush TDs to see if Maus can Fly

[gloomy widget]

Hi why i dont play level 7 reyting battle?

[rotund palm]

Ratings are closed i think

[gloomy widget]

I waiting 10 minuties

[rotund palm]

I waited 6 hours for mine to open

They have time to open and close

[gloomy widget]

Now Eu server open reyting but i choose 7 level tank waiting 10 minutes dont play

[rotund palm]

We're in different servers thought but i think not many players are playing tier 7 and Tier 8

[gloomy widget]

Server registr is lol

10-20 players but play is hard

[rotund palm]

Not many players play tier 7 or tier 8 but if it was tier 10 it would be easy to find a match

[gloomy widget]

💯

Okay thanks

[tulip edge]

Playing tier 7 in ratings isn’t ideal, and it creates longer queue times for you if you try to play tier 7

[torpid lagoon]

are the Type 59 Twins good or nah

[elfin loom]

@torpid lagoon

@torpid lagoon i Get the BDR.G1 B

[torpid lagoon]

what?

[open solstice]

Which gun would you guys prefer,t62a or leopard 1?

[solid gate]

leopard 1

[alpine notch]

Lets talk about what if Deathstar gone from Blitz? Somebody once told that probably Super Tortoise with huge chunk and thick frontal armor or random WG ideas about fictional tanks will show up replacing it on British TD line

As for i am, '89 Chimera probably my best bet- (maybe without spaced armor for balance, idk)

You'll get that feeling of driving a T95 with mobility i suppose... 🤔

[hollow belfry]

Wargaming did not announce any replacement of the 183 in the near future, but the suggestion above makes sense.

[alpine notch]

I just love this British TD concept irl, probably one of the best afaik for turretless TD unlike JagdChieftain lol

[tulip edge]

If they ever removed the deathstar, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Turtle came into play from PC.
But deathstar will remain where it is for the time being

[hollow belfry]

I would enjoy seeing this tank in the game nevertheless, and maybe give a worthy reason to grind the AT line @alpine notch

[alpine notch]

@tulip edge Turtle Mk. 1? Not really that OP though, but still tough opponent to face on corners (frontally)

@hollow belfry 😄

Or is there another Turtle TD's that i dont know about?

[tulip edge]

Im sure they would balance it accordingly on blitz, and it would make a lot of sense to have it there.
It would be better on Blitz anyway with the smaller maps
And yes I’m talking about the Turtle. Only one

[alpine notch]

I'll be surprised if that Turtle Mk. 1 came as tech tree tank replacing Tortoise on tier IX, and Tortoise goes on tier X replacing Deathstar.

But who knows-

[tulip edge]

Ultimately its up to them, and we are just throwing ideas around. All we know is that the deathstar is here to stay for the time being, if not forever

[alpine notch]

Looks like we have to wait- we'll see about that hopefully in future...

[latent sigil]

ngl I thought vickers light speed got nerfed then I remembered that the last time I played it was in gravity 💀

[hallow thistle]

is LTTb good tank

[solid gate]

lttb is amazing

[trim lion]

Use the second gun it has depression

[haughty forge]

use the third gun, it has dpm

[trim lion]

Third gun makes the tank look cooler tho

[haughty forge]

third gun is best

[prime vale]

Next on Yukon men

[acoustic pollen]

im having fun with it, its just.....use the speed effectively dont just go whipping round cuz you can....if you can team up with another speedy boy that helps...but i really found its great for getting quick flanks on unsuspecting enemies....and winning 1v1s against heavies if you push faster than their turrents can rotate....also yah that extra bit of depression helps a lot (2nd gun) but then for sure use gun rammer

[tulip edge]

Yeah I like LTTB, especially for gravity lmao.
Bonus that is has well sloped armour, so you will always get that troll bounce, mostly from lower tiers

[haughty forge]

or higher tiers tooo

[tulip edge]

Occasionally, but it mainly allows you to bully the lower tier lights and mediums

[haughty forge]

idk about u but i bounce from t8 tds than any other tanks

[acoustic pollen]

i cant believe some of the bounces i've had on that thing, like, i should have been dead sort of bounces

[visual bane]

I need an accurate armor inspector for the grille. That thing has the weirdest armor I've seen.

[zinc grove]

How to play tiger 2

[prime vale]

You play it like a tiger 2 😏

[gentle wasp]

Bully meds, play smart vs heavies. Don’t count on your armor, it’s not OP vs anything with decent pen or aim. Wiggle the turret a bit. @zinc grove

[zinc grove]

Thank you

[undone yew]

ok guys so how to play p43 bis

[gentle wasp]

Out trade meds, wiggle the turret and angle the upper plate

[smoky narwhal]

What is a good T10 tank with mobility and good armor

[solid gate]

Wot whit sdkfz 🤔

[gentle wasp]

@smoky narwhal which tank type

[hallow thistle]

how to use MT25

[gentle wasp]

Clip and dip

[hallow thistle]

what do you mean

[alpine notch]

Obj. 140 or T-62A?@smoky narwhal

[gentle wasp]

You are a light tank so spot early, get in shots if you can but try not to take shots. When you know where tanks are, flank around to find an isolated or distracted target, dump the clip, and get into cover @hallow thistle

[hallow thistle]

Affirmative!

[tulip edge]

MT-25. I haven’t played it in a while, but I sure had fun driving that thing

[haughty forge]

Same , i did full platoon with mt 25

[solid gate]

Mauschen, I got it but never actually played it. Thought ferdi would give me top gun but shared research in blitz is non-existent even though the ferdi top gun and mauschen is the same gun but just with “PAK” instead of “KWK”, is it and the maus worth it? I know it’s a great side scraper but is the line worth finishing or should I sell?

[strange thicket]

um, if the guns names are different that means both guns aren't the same
just because they share the same cal doesn't mean they are both the same gun
and shared research exists in Blitz look at IS7 and IS4 lines @solid gate

[tulip edge]

@solid gate It is worth finishing, Maus is a top performer at tier ten especially after the heavy HP buffs.
If you want to become proficient with the maus, you have to practice with angling the hull and turret, and doing a bit of wiggling.

[hollow notch]

Mauschen is a pos. Maus is a god

[gentle wasp]

Don’t need to have someone freak out whenever a spammer comes along, and this would be better in #off-topic-discussion

[solid gate]

Jadgtiger. is it like it’s Prem 105mm cousin? I like to frontline the 8.8 in a hulldown showing the main superstructure with great results and many steel wall awards. But is the tech tree jadgtiger like this? I am at the ferdi and need the XP to get the vehicle itself. Is it a frontliner or a sniper? I already know that it’s a great tank but I just need to know what to do once I have it.

[gentle wasp]

@solid gate Jagdtiger has a better gun and more armor than the prem. It is a very strong tank. I imagine it has a similar playstyle.

[solid gate]

@gentle wasp Alright, but when I was playing similar tanks like the T95 I saw the jadgtiger having an easy to pen frontal plate even without pramo. So I wonder if the armor can hold up from the front with things like meds/non ATGM lights?

[strange thicket]

lol you are shooting at it with a t95
a high pen td of course it is gonna pen
the upper plate is good but it is not gonna hold itself against high pen tanks
so you need to hulldown in it
however the upper plate holds itself against meds and lights
until they load prammo

[gentle wasp]

@solid gate the upper plate is pretty nice against most meds. Don’t rely on it against higher pen tanks, try to go hull down

[solid gate]

Yeah, usually I consider myself out of position if my frontal plate is showing with the 8.8 most of the time

[gentle wasp]

Same thing is true for the Jagdtiger.

[strange thicket]

if you go hulldown and somewhat angle the front plate of the jagtiger it becomes strong enough to bounce a lot of shots

[solid gate]

Then the main problem would be your side armor.

[gentle wasp]

The sides aren’t too paper, as long as you take a conservative angle you should be fine

[scarlet horizon]

ping

[faint solstice]

It’s HE literally barely rolls any higher then it’s standard ammo, there’s almost no point to it

[unique narwhal]

Just give it HE damage, we don't need anymore missle tanks in the game

[hollow belfry]

If you want historical accuracy, just go play another game really. Secondly, we certainly do NOT need any more ATGM tanks added into the game. 2 made enough of a [censored]storm

[faint solstice]

Ok, but here’s the thing: Sheridan and T92 are OP because of missile PLUS speed and armor/spaced armor. Kpz lacks the speed and armor, even the turret is pennable with any decent gun

[hollow belfry]

T92 has no longer any good armor wdym

[faint solstice]

It already has deplorable alphas, armor, reload, and pen. If they aren’t willing to give it normal HE, then replace it’s nigh useless HEAT with ATGM

Admiral bro pass what ever you are high on because T92 absolutely has way too much armor for what it is.

That upper plate is ridiculous and everyone knows it, that’s why more people stay at tier 9 with T92 than go to tier 10 for Sheridan

[lyric oriole]

The only thing KPF 70 could need is 780 HE alpha

[gentle wasp]

The upper plate is 87mm... sure you can get troll bounces off it but the same can be said for pretty much every tank

[faint solstice]

The only way to balance T92 is to give it wotpc-levels of light tank armor, meaning 10-30mm

Anyways, back to kpz, it lacks is the speed so the missiles won’t be super OP on it, just a balance/selling point

[hollow belfry]

« it has way too much armor for what it is » literally can be HEd from the front

[faint solstice]

That upper plate tho, same with fa- I mean progetto but y’all aren’t ready for that discussion

[gentle wasp]

Progetto has nearly twice as much armor there. Next.

[hollow belfry]

^

[faint solstice]

.

[hollow belfry]

different angle makes it more effective

[lyric copper]

bruh pretty sure 40>50

[faint solstice]

Then who said T92 has 87mm

[gentle wasp]

Effective

[lyric copper]

look, Leopard 1 has 72mm frontal, but tier 2s can’t pen it

[hollow belfry]

You are talking about the T92’s armor like if it had not been nerfed since it’s release

[faint solstice]

Wait hold on I have another question

[gentle wasp]

Straight on it has 87mm effective armor on the front plate. 40 is the base value.

[faint solstice]

Do you know about auto bounce angle/ overmatching? Which one dominates the other?

[gentle wasp]

There are probably some excellent forum posts by people that are much more familiar with this than me.

[faint solstice]

I’m just curios, because by the rule of overmatching my E100 should ALWAYS pen progetto/T92 100% of the time, but somehow it doesn’t

Are there any devs sober enough to answer or all you guys too busy doing happy dust on more crate tank ideas

[gentle wasp]

https://youtu.be/UFktFSJZPsQ
https://youtu.be/r6z9Ec2jl9Y
Try these

[faint solstice]

I know how the 2 rules work, what I don’t get is which overrules the other

[smoky narwhal]

is the Is-4 good or is the Is-7 better?

[faint solstice]

Unless of course they made a mistake and armor inspector isn’t up to date with the progetto .

Probably is4 is better

[lyric copper]

IS-4 is light years better, I regret getting the IS-7, you trade speed for better armour profile

@smoky narwhal no, but the ammorack location is

[smoky narwhal]

oh okay, is the pike nose really that bad?

[faint solstice]

Is7 lacks the super weak spot at the bottom sides that the IS-4 has

[solid gate]

If you suggest missiles on KPZ chances are you don’t know how kpz works

[faint solstice]

Man I have the kpz and I’ve aced it several times, I know what it’s like. To how I know it needs buffs. The only reason I suggested ATGMs is for historical accuracy. I’d be happy with almost literally any other decent buff

[storm apex]

is the SU-100 good for spotting?

[gentle wasp]

No

[storm apex]

like not even one bit?
i mean that makes sense cuz i can't see anything lol

[smoky narwhal]

Right now I drive the vk100.01, I like its armor, however I really want to find a tank with better mobility

[faint solstice]

Then your playing the wrong tech line if u want mobility XD

[lyric copper]

@faint solstice if so, the T-62A should get ATGMs, it had a smoothbore that could fire ATGMs

[viral falcon]

@faint solstice You can still bounce/not pen from overmatched plates if the effective armour is still more than your normalized penetration. Thus you are able to bounce from the Progetto or T92 at extreme angles even with bigger calibre.

[solid gate]

I’ve aced it much more times than 7 should also point out the only reason the atgms work on the t92 and Sheridan is that they have the flexibility to properly use them

[faint solstice]

No T62 doesn’t need any more buffs. Kpz NEEDS some kind of buff

[solid gate]

The KPZ is underpowered it is true but it’s still a middle ground between the T9 heavies and second of all if all the other T9 heavies are available why don’t you play them instead

[faint solstice]

Kpz has terrible pen, armor, alpha, and reload, even it’s 152mm HE barely rolls higher than its standard ammo

Kpz needs the buffs badly, maybe ATGMs would be overkill, but atleast give it regular HE alpha numbers(it’s max is only 800)

[solid gate]

First off T62 doesnt have access to ATGMS that wasn’t available until T64

[lyric copper]

it was.

[lyric copper]

ah wait, crap, got mixed between the 64 and 62

[faint solstice]

Lol, all good

Anyways, back to kpz, ok so maybe not ATGMs (which is why it had a 152mm in the first place), but atleast give it regular Alpha numbers: 640,560,960

[lyric copper]

also remembered the 64 had an autoloader

[solid gate]

My advice just give up on attempting to get a buff for the KPZ it wont happen wargaming has already forgot the thing exists and has no plans to change it should also note i sold mine many months ago

[faint solstice]

And if not regular alpha numbers, then just it’s HE then, because right now it’s max roll on HE is only 800 which is the max roll the SU series have kn AP which just isn’t fair

[lyric copper]

@solid gate why would you sell a premium tank of all things

[faint solstice]

Because u can sell kpz for like 3 million credits

[solid gate]

One it didnt even make good money two i have better ones available and despised the kpz and didnt want it anymore

[faint solstice]

Sorry but you are wrong, kpz makes tons of credits if u get even semi decent games. I’ve literally never lost credits in a game with it

[solid gate]

I would make 20-30k on a good game in it

[faint solstice]

Mb, I forgot I have premium

[solid gate]

Plus I can get it back at anytime with restoration I have the creds to do so

[lyric copper]

good point, I’ll withdraw my case

[faint solstice]

Ye me too, but it’s nice to run 2 games it and recover from buying a new tank

Hey dog, what do u have to do to get the veteran role?

[solid gate]

25k battles 50% WR

[faint solstice]

So it’s not actually being a veteran of the game... bruh

[lyric oriole]

I mean, 6 years and one battle is hardly a veteran to me

[faint solstice]

Yeah, but 6 years and almost 14k battles should be a veteran (I took a long brake)

[timid bison]

X

[lyric oriole]

14k isn't a lot

[faint solstice]

Well I got it all in under a year so

[lyric copper]

evolution of american tanks how nice

[plush bobcat]

Couldnt find the german one sadly

[faint solstice]

That seems like string for #blitz-memes , maybe not quite vehicle discussion

On second thought I guess it kinda does

[lyric copper]

really interesting how tank doctrine changes from being simple battering rams made to support the infantry to their own separate units on the battlefield

[storm apex]

I've been penned through my tracks even though i sidescraped at least 80 degrees. is that cuz SU-100 side armor is overmatched?

[faint solstice]

Speaking of doctrine, I believe there should be a 5th tank type in blitz(not artillery)

[plush bobcat]

American tanks came a very long way from crappy shermans to one of the strongest tanks around

The kp looks like a rhino tbh

[gentle wasp]

@faint solstice what would that be

[plush bobcat]

Wheel tanks?

[faint solstice]

5th tank type concept: assault guns
Includes things like:
T95
Every T28 variant
JG.E100
Elephant(Ferdinand)
Foch/foch 155
Obj.263

U get the idea

[lyric oriole]

@storm apex you can't sidescrape in every vehicle

[storm apex]

welp. that explains it

[plush bobcat]

Even leopard 1?

[faint solstice]

Tortoise
T110E3/4

Oh yeah don’t side scrape in leo XD.
Anyways what do you think about my concept? The idea is to have a 5th tank type to discourage people camping in tanks classified as TDs, but have heavy armor and should be up front

In fact the entire upper British TD line except for fv183 should be classified as assault guns

[lyric copper]

@plush bobcat and British tanks went from a child’s drawings to mathematically calculating the best angles to help reduce weight and increase armour

[lyric oriole]

Most "tank Destroyers" were SPGs or Assault tanks, I don't think it's necessary.

Assault tanks have mostly second line support capabilities

[lyric copper]

yeah, too far in and they get murked

[faint solstice]

No, because something like an fv4005 should not be an assault gun/SPG, and the fv183 was historically made to be a tank destroyer to combat ever modernizing soviet tanks

[lyric copper]

the FV183 was never made, the 4005 was

[solid gate]

183 had a wooden mock up

[faint solstice]

But the fv4005 was made with the 183mm gun

And the devs here don’t have the balls to give us the fv183(with armor from pc) or the fv4005 also from pc. Or maybe they do have the balls but they are just passed out from happy dust

[solid gate]

No because they can’t stand the outrage from the 183

[lyric copper]

no, the FV 4005 is just better than the 183 even if the 4005 had the 183

[hollow belfry]

The 183 has been removed from the tech tree in PC.

[faint solstice]

It’s funny how tiers 5-9 have armor but suddenly “hey remember the alecto? Yeah all that time you spent with armor was for nothing, here’s the 183”

[lyric copper]

even when it was part of the line, the armour wasn’t all good

[faint solstice]

ThE ArMoR WaSnT AlL ThAt GoOd
Man just pass what ever your smoking, i want sum

The 183 we have no blitz has literally nothing in common with the entire tech line except for the tier 4, it should have more relatable armor

[lyric copper]

you assumed that people used standard ammo, right? No one on PC used standard ammo lol

[faint solstice]

Bruh literally 3 tanks can pen that angle, THREE

[solid gate]

I’m gonna guess you haven’t ever read any patch notes on the 183s long history of nerfs in blitz

[kindred wren]

403 is too much for all types of ammo except for the Jg Pz E100 HEAT

[faint solstice]

Yeah there’s obj268 and that one Rus- I mean Chinese TD

[lyric copper]

plus, that’s one specific part of the armour, aim up a bit more, voilla, pen

[faint solstice]

Not quite

[solid gate]

The 183 has no place in blitz both sides despise it there’s no way to balance it the past of it was far more annoying and deserved the nerfs it got

[faint solstice]

Give me 10 minutes to tweak the stats I could balance the sh1t out of it

[gentle wasp]

Good thing you can’t

[solid gate]

You could give it the worst armor or speed or accuracy you can’t get rid of that gun

[faint solstice]

Yes, god forbid a sober person of sound mind have a chance to work on this game

[kindred wren]

The 268 and the 113G FT can only pen it if it high rolls on the pen

[lyric copper]

@faint solstice that’s not even on the same armour plate

[solid gate]

They did and you know what they suggested to remove the tank from the tech tree

[faint solstice]

Yeh I know, I’m factoring a decent player driving it

[solid gate]

You see a decent player wouldnt drive it in the first place

[lyric copper]

^

[hollow belfry]

^

[faint solstice]

Then boom ,you have a nice nich tank that isn’t overused because people think it’s bad

[lyric copper]

the 4005 on PC is just way better, why play the worse tank

[faint solstice]

Because it would be nice to have armor that resembles the entire tech line

[solid gate]

No you get the opposite it’s a tank that has no place on either side someone will get hit for all their health and the enemy 183 gets deleted instantly or either misses its a lose lose for both teams

[lyric copper]

that’s why the badger was implemented as a replacement

[faint solstice]

Wait, badger isn’t a premium on pc?

[solid gate]

It’s a tech tree...

[faint solstice]

Yo wtf... nvm I forgot artys

Anyways, as I said, give me 10 minutes and I can give you a balanced nich tank that isn’t OP and isn’t useless(like it is now)

I could literally come up with a balanced T64 to add to blitz

[solid gate]

No you couldnt without ruining the point of the tank to fit in the game to a tier it doesn’t belong to

[faint solstice]

bet

[lyric copper]

oh god an autoloader with RUSSIAN BIAS and ATGM CAPABILITY

[solid gate]

One word of T64 APFSDS

[faint solstice]

Ye no ATGMs, I know how to balance it in a way that would make it ok even for blitz

Too bad the devs are too busy making for random tier 7 premiums and tier 8 crate tanks

[lyric copper]

it has an autoloader dude, and I’m pretty sure it has ERA too

[solid gate]

It doesn’t matter if it has an autoloader other tanks do you know the problem is it uses an ammo that has many complex properties that can’t be properly adapted in a game like WOT also not factoring in the T64 has a resistant and complex armor lay out for the game making it resistant to HEAT and APCR and smaller AP rounds

[faint solstice]

But here’s the concept:
Nigh unpennabke turret(like wz111-5a)
Yes, APFSDS(380 pen, 2k mps, 15k credits each) main selling point
Deplorable maunuverability(like kpz, but worse engine power)
In place of ERA have great spaced armor(like super conq)
Give it same alpha as 128mm/130mm guns (460 standard, 340 premium, 560 HE)
Terrible side armor (like all MBTs)
Instead of gun rammer, it has vents(like an auto loader, but no drums/clips)
10 second reload(unrealistic, for balacing)
NO ATGMs(balance)
Standard pen 320-330
Turret traverse slightly faster than kpz, but not by much

@lyric copper you do realize super conq has “ERA” that is just thicc spaced armor

[lyric copper]

320 standard pen bro that’s as good as some TDs

[faint solstice]

It’s a 125mm gun, it’s gonna be good, no way around that part

[solid gate]

So not only is it slower than a KPZ it has broken penetration impennable turret and a complex round who would want this it’s just a 60 TP but worse

[faint solstice]

Maybe less, 300-310 standard 340-355 premium

[lyric copper]

so it’s practically a better T-62a

[faint solstice]

Basically, but a lot less maunverable

[solid gate]

It’s a T62A with broken pen mediocre DPM no speed and no gun depression

[faint solstice]

Ye, I forgot to say, 5 gun depression for balancing, I think it had 6 irl

[solid gate]

So there’s literally no point in using it

[faint solstice]

There is
APFSDS will go very fast, as it’s supposed to

It has the same pen as premium 120mm/122mm guns, but will be the fastes round in the game.
Btw you guys do know APFSDS is already in the game, right?

It’s only on one tank, but it’s the single fastest round in the game rn

[solid gate]

APFSDS does more than you think but you still ignore 310-380 pen is average for TDs that still have trouble penning some other tanks combine that with only 5 gun dep and terrible speeds you make the most pointless thing yet also APFSDS is in the game but it’s classed as APCR on the chieftain

[faint solstice]

Anyways maybe 2k mps is too fast, maybe more like 1700 or 1800

[solid gate]

And ammo prices haven’t done anything to stop a tank or ammo from being spammed it’s tier 10 your not there to make credits

[faint solstice]

That’s called balancing
Bad hull, good turret
Bad gun hadniling, high alpha
Bad aim time, high velocity

[solid gate]

It’s another super conq or IS clone

[faint solstice]

Wdym IS clone

The entire point is to have very niche and specific advantages, but also have exploitable disadvantages, THATS THE BALANCE

[solid gate]

Good turret mediocre gun handling high alpha on some of the tanks ok aim time high velocity that’s not balance it provided no diversity over any other T10 heavy

[faint solstice]

Also ATGMS are what, like 4K? firing a few APFSDS across a few games will leave anyone without loads of credits broke

[lyric copper]

make em 5k

[solid gate]

Who cares about profits at tier 10?

[faint solstice]

It’s not about profit, they will be so expensive if ur not careful you could literally loose near 100k in a game if u spam and arent a decent shot

Also give it low max ammo, like only 35 shots total

[hollow belfry]

no one cares about credits at t10. you don’t play it for money, but for performance.

[faint solstice]

The performance would depend on who’s playing it

If u try to rush out thinking ur invincible your gonna have a rude awakening. If you go hull down you will become a imovable object

[solid gate]

Yet you can’t go hulldown with 5 gun dep

[faint solstice]

You can the right places

[solid gate]

Very specific and selectable places of which barely can provide any use and are highly situational

[faint solstice]

But that’s the balance! It’s not easy to use, it will be a difficult tank to really be OP in, that’s the point

EXACTLY, I’m not trying to make the be all end all tank, im trying to make a tank with advantages and disadvantages, that’s the entire point

[solid gate]

The point was to balance it but it provides nothing unique you literally pulled a kpz 70 on it

[hollow belfry]

^

[faint solstice]

Are you not listening? Kpz has pennable turret, T64 would not (Minus a hatch), T64 has the apfsds with 350-360 pen at 1700 mps

[solid gate]

Your not listening you ignored my statement of putting a tank in a tier it doesn’t fit in and tweaking it fit when it becomes worse than its peers

[faint solstice]

It has ups and downs, kpz just has downs and downs

[solid gate]

Yet you were complaining to buff kpz earlier...

[faint solstice]

Your statement is that it has nothing unique, yes? I’m saying it does have things that are unique. Yes, kpz still needs buffs

[hollow belfry]

I’m not going to waste my time trying to argue with that person.

[viral lodge]

Im confused what im reading.

[solid gate]

He went full circle

[faint solstice]

How? By standing by an earlier statement? Back to T64, I’m not ignoring your statement

[solid gate]

You literally complained about kpz not being good at anything earlier and wanting to buff it and tried to say the 183 could be balanced to fit and then tried to say T64 could be balanced to fit in tier 10 when you literally did the same thing WG did to the kpz 70

[faint solstice]

By what, giving it bad stats..

Kpz has bad stats with no advantages, 0, nada, nothing. T64 would have some bad stats with other advantages, that’s how tanks like that are supposed to work

Atleast the 183 has something which is its alpha, kpz has nothing

[viral lodge]

How about no T64 and just some slight buffs to the kpz ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Kpz isnt a bad tank

[solid gate]

What advantages does it have pen? How much times must I remind you 5 gun dep makes that useless combined with bad handling the front hull armor is useless when it also has bad speed

[faint solstice]

Oh my god, thats the point, you can’t play it however you want

[viral lodge]

Dog is telling you it cant be used to good affect.

[faint solstice]

You can only play it in specific ways, but those specific ways, when done right, are devastating, that’s the entire point. It’s not going to be flexible, it’s not supposed to

[viral lodge]

From what I read its basically a godly turret but it has barely any depression so the turret is useless.

[faint solstice]

You know the new yukon map? There are places where in pennable turrets and 5 gun depression would still work wonders

[solid gate]

You mean the valley in the waterfall or the brawling zone near the wood works

[faint solstice]

Im NOT saying this tank should be built for Yukon alone, I’m just using Yukon as an example

But that’s the point, the tank has balancing factors that prevent it from being flexible. It will lose a lot, it likely won’t do well in most players hands. But any decent player that can work the turret will do great

Play it’s advantages, if your against it then try to play off its disadvantages, that’s the whole point

[shell summit]

T49 needs a minor concealment nerf

[solid gate]

I’m gonna stop wasting my time here you need to seriously get back in the game if you think 5 gun dep is workable

[faint solstice]

Ok then, let’s hypothetically give it 6

Also you do know that is3 has 5 gun depression right? And people still make that work

[lyric copper]

because most of the time it goes to the city, where it is flat

[faint solstice]

Yes, and work the tiny tiny slopes

6 degrees feels like a bit too much for that tank if it’s gonna have a great turret, but ok then let’s say it has 6

I feel like dog just wants a scaled up current T62A

[lyric copper]

isn’t that what the T-64 is?

[faint solstice]

NO, atleast not in my concept

It is/was irl, but this is different. Obviously MBT isn’t a tank type so it would be classified as a heavy tank, and would have stats that reflect that

[lyric copper]

MBT is a type of tank

[faint solstice]

Yes, but not in blitz, I’m saying if it was in blitz

[shell forum]

WTH is going on...?

[faint solstice]

We are argu- discussing the idea of a Balanced T64 being in blitz

[shell summit]

Blitz already has enough MBT's

[faint solstice]

Dogwisdom kept trying to twist it into something OP, I’m trying to make a balanced concept

Bruh blitz only has 2 high tier MBTs and only one of them is good

[shell forum]

Uh... are you asking to get the Obj 430 into Blitz?

[faint solstice]

Read the top 20-30 messages about balancing ideas

[lyric copper]

T-62A, Leopard 1 and AMX 30B, Chieftain, KPF 70

[faint solstice]

premium MBTs also I don’t call tier 8 top tier

[gentle wasp]

Centurions as well (and STB I believe)

[faint solstice]

Centurions are part of a very specific tank type invented by the british

[gentle wasp]

Which is the mbt

[shell forum]

All i see is request to get the Obj 430(U) from PC to Blitz...

[faint solstice]

I remember bc they all start with a C. Nono not MBT, there’s a reason basically all british tanks start with a C

[lyric copper]

yeah STB counts, but Centi isn’t, but is argued as being one of the first “MBTs” as the British Army used them in general purpose roles

[shell summit]

T-62A, Leopard 1 and AMX 30B, Chieftain, KPF 70
Dont forget M60 and m48

[faint solstice]

Kuro your looking at it like dogwisdom did, the entire point is for there to be balances

[lyric copper]

M48 isn’t counted, M60 is

[gentle wasp]

First line from tank encyclopedia “The Centurion was simultaneously the last of the cruiser type and the first main battle tank.”

[faint solstice]

But here’s the concept:
Nigh unpennabke turret(like wz111-5a)
Yes, APFSDS(380 pen, 2k mps, 15k credits each) main selling point
Deplorable maunuverability(like kpz, but worse engine power)
In place of ERA have great spaced armor(like super conq)
Give it same alpha as 128mm/130mm guns (460 standard, 340 premium, 560 HE)
Terrible side armor (like all MBTs)
Instead of gun rammer, it has vents(like an auto loader, but no drums/clips)
10 second reload(unrealistic, for balacing)
NO ATGMs(balance)
Standard pen 320-330
Turret traverse slightly faster than kpz, but not by much

[shell summit]

I say m48 bc it was a m60 prototype, so its essentially a MBT

[shell forum]

But the T-64 in prototype form is Obj 430 which existed in PC...

[faint solstice]

Ok what I meant was premium MBTs classified as heavies

[lyric copper]

so then wouldn’t the Panther be an MBT? Good armour, gun and manoeuvrability?

[faint solstice]

No

[lyric copper]

what makes it not an MBT?

[gentle wasp]

MBT is the design. MBTs are made to be universal vehicles
Panther was made with only the German army in mind

[faint solstice]

MBT is about rolling all tank roles into one

Heavy armor, big gun, good mobility, 75mm isn’t a big gun

[lyric copper]

the only thing it was bad at was crew co-ordination and cross country driving (150km final drives LOL)

The 75mm it was armed with could punch through most allied armour at long distances

[faint solstice]

We are getting way off tracks

Back to T64, the entire idea is to have a tank with overall bad stats, but have some good qualities that make it worth buying and playing

[shell forum]

I don't get why you are trying to balance for something which technically existed in game form on another platform with different environment...

[faint solstice]

Of it existed why can’t I find it on armor inspector?

Nvm

[shell summit]

Stop trying to turn blitz into war thunder

[lyric copper]

it’s PC

[faint solstice]

I was looking under heavy tanks

[shell forum]

It's called the Obj 430 and Obj 430U on PC. That's literally the T-64 you are harping about (it's a medium)

[faint solstice]

Yeah my bad, I was looking under heavies. I’m not trying to turn blitz into warthunder, there are a billion things that would have to change to even make it close. Adding one tank would not turn the game into warthunder

[shell forum]

It's like asking to add the Japanese MBT Type 74. We have it! It's in Protoype form called the STB-1

[faint solstice]

So, T64: the idea is to have a tank with mostly bad hull armor, nigh unpennable turret (minus hatch), bad gun handling, exclusive APFSDS(350-360pen, 1700mps), 5 or 6 degrees of depression for balancing, bad maneuverability for balencing

[shell forum]

Obj 430 and Obj 430U are literally the T-64 in prototype form. Just on PC platform with different gamestyle. Request for that and maybe you might get a chance. Up to the dev on adding that thing

[faint solstice]

Basically a Russian super conq, but with APFSDS and worse gun depression

So you think I’d have a higher chance of getting a balanced T64 in the game than a buff for the kpz XD

[shell forum]

Higher, still not 1% chance

[faint solstice]

Lmfao I bet devs don’t even read this chat, I bet every day there are so many ideas in this channel that could make them so much money, but they just don’t read it XD

[kindred wren]

M48 was not a prototype

[faint solstice]

Yes, it was a predecessor

[kindred wren]

That is not the same as prototype. And the Object 430 was not the prototype of the T-64

[faint solstice]

We are confusing the words prototype and predecessor

Btw now that I’m look at it, yes, basically the obj430U in blitz, but with APFSDS and even worse maneuverability

So it can reasonably be classified as a heavy

[shell forum]

Predecessor: tank in succeeding lineage. M46 Patton -> M48 Patton
Prototype: first physical iteration of a tank for battle trial and effectiveness. T1 Heavy -> M6 Heavy

[faint solstice]

^^^Yes^^^

[kindred wren]

430 was another tank project that had nothing to do with the development of the T-64

[faint solstice]

Ok but the play styles and concepts in game would be similar, good upper plate, bad lower and side armor, amazing turret, bad gun handling, good alpha and pen, very specific playstyle, bad tank for most played but good for experienced players

And of course, NO ATGM, but yes to the APFSDS with great pen and velocity, but it’s balanced by bad overall gun handling

[shell forum]

...Object 430 developed with design to succeed the T-54 medium in service. Modification during testing were made, converting the name to Object 432. Once completed trial and approve for service, the designation T-64 was given...

[faint solstice]

O.o

[kindred wren]

Object 432 was based on the Object 430 but it was not actually the same project

[faint solstice]

I guess it was inspired?

[shell forum]

So what, add the T-64/Object 432 because they are direct connections where the Object 430 which is where the whole thing start off with is pointless to oblivion...k

I guess we should remove the Object 140, even though it is in the history for the T-62 development...

[kindred wren]

No, the Object 430 was kind of bad but they made a study (the Object 430U (or enhanced)) and found that they could convert it to a heavy, so they decided to start a new project based on that

I never said that, I just want to clear up how these tanks are actually connected

[shell forum]

Then what about Object 165?

[kindred wren]

What about it?

[keen escarp]

Who misses the grind on gravity :(

[shell forum]

If the Object 430 is not related to the T-64, then what about the Object 140 to the Object 165

[kindred wren]

I did not say that they are not related. Quite contrarily, I made it very clear that one is based on the other

Oh wait, now I see my message. That was non-sense

[shell forum]

Screw it. I give up. Just give the dunce hat and say I'm a history idiot. Clearly I'm stupid

[kindred wren]

I said that the Object 430 has nothing to do with the development of the T-64. That is obviously incorrect, it is just not the project/ prototype

[shell forum]

Without it the fundamental of T-64 will also doesn't exist. Technically it's a prototype base on the logic Standard B is a Leopard 1 prototype (wildly different design and the PTA is a whole other project but it is technically a prototype)

[kindred wren]

Well, they were all prototypes for the same competition and not consecutive

I mean, some people say that the MBT 70 is a prototype for the Abrams and the Leopard 2 which isn’t really correct

[shell forum]

Maybe it's just my definition of prototype since its broad and will consider tank that lead nowhere as part of a prototype (iteration). Not a direct relation, but without it the modern vehicles won't exist unless that plan either encountered or by accident land on the perfect mark

[kindred wren]

Their role in tank development, especially during the Cold War, shouldn’t be underestimated

Many of the different designs were more studies for future tanks with little hope to be adopted themselves

[shell forum]

If it's just a development from is good enough. Maybe the hull suck but the turret is great, so take the turret and make a new hull to comply with a new guideline. Then again, there are Bradley design some wouldn't consider as its prototype and got scrap but it did help lead to the prototype.

Or maybe I'm just stupid and should've use concepts over prototype but that opens to the nuclear tank which did made the US favor egg shell designs even if it is not physically shared anything...

[kindred wren]

The nuclear tank is an oddity

[shell forum]

It's a useless concept, but it did made American think egg shell protection for some time

[kindred wren]

They stopped doing it pretty quickly though. Probably because it was not worth the effort

[shell forum]

Hazard a guess the driver on turret idea. That might explain why a certain arty has that concept implemented

[solid gate]

The TV-8 didn’t introduce the egg shell design

[kindred wren]

Driver in turret? Which one if I may ask?

[shell forum]

Chieftain covered it sometime ago, forgot the name of it. Based of a Patton hull (M48 from my crappy memory)

Right, M53 & M55, still dont remember which Patton hull that is

[kindred wren]

M47, I looked it up. But it is not exactly the M47 Patton hull because they reversed the driving aspects

[shell forum]

M103 test prototype is T43... I swear the US and Russia are more similar than they want to admit...

[plush bobcat]

T49 ammo racked on the move

Wheres that thing ammo rack?

[shell forum]

Left side of the hull, up the turret, under the turret ring, and a big rack on front hull on the right

[meager coral]

Is it just me or is the panther 2 feel underpowered

[gentle wasp]

It’s solid now

[meager coral]

I need help with it then :p

Is 1200 avg dmg in it good?

[gentle wasp]

It’s not too good

[meager coral]

That’s what i thought :/

[plush bobcat]

Sigh smasher and its hesh depresses me

[gentle wasp]

Smasher doesn’t have HESH...

[final adder]

tier 9 Foch is an Mbt, change my mind

[plush bobcat]

I call he hesh idk why but high explosive

[tulip sail]

I wish I started playing the charioteer sooner I was dreading using it since how many people I've heard say its bad

[final adder]

its not bad but its not good, tor, tor is just in a bad spot, glass cannon that has no speed, and armor that dosent work

[tulip sail]

I've been doing really good in it playing as a medium

Well not really good (only 1900 average dmg)

[final adder]

tbh tour needs an armor buff cause without being able to use armor its useless, and with jags buff last patch, they really just dug the hole that tor was in even deeper.

[tulip sail]

Wait where did the tortoise come from?

[shell forum]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[solid gate]

I’m on the Sherman firefly and I’m using it as a sniper to practice the other tanks in the line.

[final adder]

the history behind the tor is, after the d-day landing as the allies were advancing through mid Europe, they were having issues with more and more fortified positions. With this the project to develop a heavy, assault gun platform, they started with the excelsior, it wasn't standing up against the long 75mm Pak 40's and 8.8cm flak guns. Thus they said "enough of this reusing stuff, lets just develop a new vehicle."

and we play through those from tier 5-9 with the next being heavier and even more armored. Until they developed the AT-16 = a39 tortoise. The tortoise was approved and was going to be shipped to Germany by september of 1945.

25 were going to be made, but the war ended so the order was reduced down, and only 6 were made.

It went through even more testing in Germany after the war, and it was found that it was extremally reliable in terms of mechanics, and a powerful accurate gun platform.
@tulip sail

[tulip sail]

That's not what I ment I was talking about the charioteer then you started replying about the tort I'm familiar with its development

[final adder]

ah, the charioteer is kinda in the same boat other then it was a prototype vehicle made to replace old britsh m10's fitted with the 17-pounder, ummm i believe it was between the challenger and charioteer to see which would replace it.

That or it was made to replace the challenger as it came off the production line, considering how the 84mm that was fited in the challenger would do much to the late Is-2 and Is-3's or to what then became of the early t-54 models. Being completely ineffective to deal with those vehicle's
@tulip sail

[keen escarp]

I really want to get the Wz 121 but i am on T 34 2

[final adder]

use the 122mm, and the 121 is worth it

[quick thicket]

Is the infinity g37 coupe a good car to consider purchasing? Need feedback

[shell forum]

Uh... Not the vehicle i expect but I heard it is fun to drive but maintenance is a bit of a nightmare

[topaz summit]

@quick thicket I’m driving a 2003 g35 and it still runs great, depends if it was taken car of

[tulip sail]

Just dont get a ford explorer

[storm apex]

I learned that the SU-100 was not a rammer the hard way 😆

[solid gate]

Su-100 is an easy ammo rack, take out a KV-1S and aim below the gun

[distant sphinx]

Why in god's name does the ISU 152 have like 0 hitpoints

BL-10 is amazing, dont get me wrong, but survivability, meh

[strange thicket]

the entire point of the tank is the gun

[ocean maple]

Yes give a tank that has a better gun than most tier X TDs as much HP as same tier heavies, that’s a good idea

[serene saddle]

Maus needs a nerf

Its insane how it can literally steamroll through anything

[kind bluff]

uh no

[zealous anchor]

Naisu

[hollow notch]

The maus certainly didn't need the buff that it got

[haughty forge]

maus has poor gun after all, it is huge, and has sluggish front armor

[gusty ginkgo]

Only bad thing about it is gun sucks, now is4 is a better maus, with dum and better turret

[keen escarp]

@final adder yeah i really want it

[rotund palm]

Is IS 4 better than Maus ?

[haughty forge]

Ya

[zealous anchor]

no

[zenith bison]

How to bust through wall without damaging the barrel. (used in real life)

[normal vapor]

@rotund palm no

[humble storm]

Is E100 worth it's price and xp?

[sand coral]

Yes

[green moth]

Its insane how it can literally steamroll through anything
@serene saddle I have a hard time staying alive because of the speedy tanks, but thats just me

[marsh jackal]

@humble storm yes

[keen escarp]

Imma farm to get IS 4 today

[marsh jackal]

Good luck@keen escarp

[keen escarp]

Maybe like 50k xp a day? @marsh jackal Thankss!

[marsh jackal]

@keen escarp np🤭

[keen escarp]

:)

[marsh jackal]

@keen escarp how do you make that much a day🤔

[keen escarp]

You basically use the booster and get the damage and kills

[marsh jackal]

Oh ok

[keen escarp]

Grinding is pretty when you think about it but very hard in person

[marsh jackal]

@keen escarp yes I know🤭

[keen escarp]

yes.

[solid gate]

🤔

[rotund palm]

Would double barrel tanks be added to the game?

Like ST-II or IS 3-II ?

[marsh jackal]

@rotund palm idk

[rotund palm]

If they did add it but ST-II as prem and IS 3-II In tech tree

[marsh jackal]

Maybe

[keen escarp]

ooh

[rotund palm]

5 games in a row I see an IS 7 Getting ammoracked full Hp

Is IS 7 ammorack weak?

[inland fern]

uh, im asking you guys this. is the SP I C worth it?

[marsh jackal]

Yes

[rotund palm]

It's good but Dracs and Amx CDC is your worst nightmare

[inland fern]

ok

[marsh jackal]

@rotund palm no amx cdc I destroyed it with the spic

[rotund palm]

Only Drac ?

[marsh jackal]

Well if you know how to use the sp1c

You will have no problem of any tank..cause Im rushing infront of all of them

[solid gate]

Question

[haughty forge]

that tank gets bullied a lot , it is not about u , it is about enemy @marsh jackal

[marsh jackal]

You will have no problem of any tank..cause Im rushing infront of all of them

[solid gate]

Is the isu a good tank?

[haughty forge]

@marsh jackal then enemy is nub , @solid gate ya

[marsh jackal]

@solid gate yes if you know how to snipe

[solid gate]

Alright

[marsh jackal]

@haughty forge well just use the sp1c properly and you'll know how to win...yes when they spot me they all concentrate on me so it gives my teammates a good chances to kill them without shooting back

[haughty forge]

that is called yoloing

[keen escarp]

@solid gate hey

[solid gate]

which one is better?
M8A1 , Or , M7?

Yeah @keen escarp?

[keen escarp]

Just saying hey

[solid gate]

@solid gate i think the m7 but i never played both tanks

@solid gate so which tank you play with mostly?

[keen escarp]

@solid gate i played the m7

[tulip edge]

@rotund palm IS-7 ammorack is a bit weak, but it’s also due to the placement which allows enemies to hit it if they hit your pikenose frontally

[solid gate]

oh i researched for M8A1 cuz it has a nice firepower

[keen escarp]

@marsh jackal what is your tier 8

[solid gate]

my tier is IV just installed yesterday lol

[keen escarp]

Oh nicee

[solid gate]

IV not VI

[keen escarp]

Yes i seen-

[solid gate]

so any clans you guys in or what?

[keen escarp]

I am in

[solid gate]

@solid gate. I play a tank that's called amx 13 90

aha cool

[keen escarp]

@solid gate you grinding for bc?

[solid gate]

And that's my 2nd most played tank

im just started playing the game for 2 days or less and now i owe 5 tanks:
M8A1,M5 Stuart,M3 Stuart.Chi He, and the first tank everypeople start with.
LOL all of my tanks are so easy peasy to destroy

@solid gate you make yt videos?

[keen escarp]

i am grinding for Is 4

[solid gate]

So many bots in tier 8 and nine

[rotund palm]

Aren't bots in Tier 1 only?

[tulip edge]

Tier 1 and I think two as well for the new players

[rotund palm]

What's better guys?
VK72.01K or VK90.01K?

[keen escarp]

@rotund palm hes saying like bad players

[rotund palm]

Ahhh yes bad players or some wallet warriors

I've encountered a wallet warrior in Tier X once

[rancid silo]

@rotund palm VK90

[rotund palm]

A chieftain Mk 6 with less than 200 battles was pushing me Out in the open when i was using Bat chat and he had the guts to call me a Nub because i was HE spammed cause of him

[keen escarp]

Bro this person in training had the Wz 111 5A

So he killed me i had progetto 46 then i used my Wz 113G FT on him and whooped him and then he left

[rotund palm]

Lol He didn't bother to fight back again?

[keen escarp]

He dont want the smoke

No he didnt

Thats how you serve justice.

[rotund palm]

I met the Chieftain Mk 6 again lol but I'm in a Maus it's time to push him to death like he did

[keen escarp]

Lol

[solid gate]

Lol

[inland osprey]

Having a tier 10 gives you a lot of power in training rooms

[keen escarp]

@inland osprey true

[rotund palm]

I pushed him straight into an FV 183 and He ranted about THIS GAME SUCKS Lol

But hey at least we won the game with him only the dead one in our team lol

[keen escarp]

L o l

fv 183 rage + germen heavy rage = dednezz

[rotund palm]

True lol

I'm trying to find him in Tier X battles again lol

But using a Different tank this time so he doesn't notice me lol

[keen escarp]

Lol

[rapid orchid]

How to play su100 correctly

[rotund palm]

Tbh I've made it to 40k battles without properly knowing how to use a TD lol

[rapid orchid]

Lol
I use my StuG like a medium tank

[rotund palm]

I play FV4005 Like a light tank and Jg Pz E100 Like a heavy tank and Ofc Forget the Fv 183 lol

[restive ravine]

Me too on amx 48 I always go to front line and go kill and ram due to my high speed 🤷 and then heavy tank come help. Never be a sniper at the back

[rotund palm]

I play the Tier 8 Foch Like a Jg Pz E100
Aggressive like an MS I

[rapid orchid]

Yea, the gun reload is fast and thicc sloped armor

[rotund palm]

FV4005 is balanced Coz i can kill grille 15 in 3 HE shells

[rapid orchid]

The clip is 3 right?

[rotund palm]

Then have some kid rage that i killed him and him/her calling me a gigantic nub for using HE

[gentle wasp]

Correct, 3 shot auto loader @rapid orchid

[rotund palm]

Tank is Kinda good

Is FV 183 the worst TD in the game?

[gentle wasp]

Tier for tier probably not

[rotund palm]

Is it worth keeping?

[gentle wasp]

It’s a tier 10 so I wouldn’t sell it

[rotund palm]

Cause i feel like i should sell it to get Ho-Ri and Foch 155

Dang now I'm starting to miss Gravity force I want my Maus to fly again

[solid gate]

@solid gate you make yt videos?
@solid gate yes i do

but i hadnt published videos for a week

[rotund palm]

If They add P.1000 ratte then Russian Bias needs this

Imma see how many exp I'll get if i grind 12 hours non stop I'll start now

[solid gate]

Should I rebuy tier 7 foch to grind mid gun for tier 8 foch or just grind tier 8 foch

[exotic dune]

Does anyone know when the krangvang line will come out. Dm if u have to a water so I actually read it.

[hollow moth]

@rotund palm imagine have 44 cannons but any of them penetrante a tier X with prammo

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp hey bud, i recently got conway, any advice

[gentle wasp]

Stock gun?

[haughty forge]

both, i free xped top gun'

[gentle wasp]

Hmmm. Small gun has great handling and high pen HE. You could play more near the back I guess. I just don’t like the mobility and armor

[solid gate]

guys i need to know something to get my next tank

wich one's better panther 1 or E 50 M

[gentle wasp]

Panther tier for tier

[haughty forge]

Panther 1 , can brawl tier 8 tanks too,

[wispy rain]

Panther is a very solid tank tier for tier. Good dpm, decent mobility, nice pen with a great reload, and some thicc armor for a medium. It also has lots of weight, making ramming a lot more effective. There are some downsides, being that top gun doesnt have the best depression, you dont accelerate very fast, and the turret traverse isnt all that fast

I can speak from personal experience that the Panther is a great tank. As for the E 50 M..well..I havent gotten up to tier 10 yet.

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp 400 alpha and nah mobility, i will lose trades with that gun

[solid gate]

i actually ment the Leopard 1 but thanks now i know which one i'll get

[gentle wasp]

Don’t trade then. You have nice gun handling and 3.3k DPM

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp wut should i do

[gentle wasp]

Don’t get hit lol

[haughty forge]

how?.... too slow to play with mediums and ofc , almost no armor

[gentle wasp]

Play back somewhere

[haughty forge]

i will try when i get 100% crew, but right now first gun is meh

[gentle wasp]

I’m not the best person to ask since I suck in it

[haughty forge]

i feel best with top gun

[wispy rain]

Playing either as heavy support or as a sniper seems to be the Conway's strength from what I've seen

[gentle wasp]

With the big gun it is definitely heavy support

[wispy rain]

British Turreted TDs for the most part seem to follow the same sort of heavy/med support role with some occasional sniper roles mixed in

[haughty forge]

i learned how to play fv4005 from fatness, i just need to get it

[wispy rain]

They arent really my cup of tea (haha funny British joke) since they just feel like supporting mediums that I play as well. I prefer the Nashorn line. Good snipers, good dpm and they carry big guns. Most of them look nice, too

So far my favourite TD in that line has to be the Sturer Emil. Its playstyle is just so unique and fun, and the tank itself can be amazing when played right. I havent gotten to the Waffletractor yet, but I am looking forward to it

[hollow belfry]

The Emil would be significantly better if it had more top speed. 26 is just awful.

[haughty forge]

Sturer?

[hollow belfry]

Yes

[wispy rain]

Yep, Sturer Emil. 'Stubborn' in German if I remember correctly.

[lyric oriole]

That's correct

[exotic dune]

It needs to have a better top speed. Something like 56. And a average speed of 39.

[haughty forge]

no , wtf

[gentle wasp]

56? Good grief

[lyric oriole]

Wow

Sturer Emil is fine where it is imo, the gun is the focus of the tank, it's can take a lot of weird angles as well

[wispy rain]

Yeah, thats where it excels. I do wish that the Emil had a bit more ammo, since almost every single other tank except for Tanks with 152s have an ammo count that greatly exceeds the Emils

[gentle wasp]

If you want to play a faster Emil get a d-max

[wispy rain]

Yeah, I really dont mind the low speed. Makes you think and play differently. Besides..if I wanted to play a mobile sniper, I could play the Nashorn

I just think that the ammo count seems unreasonably low considering the guns alpha damage. While the alpha is quite high, I don't think its high enough and the caliber isnt large enough to make the Emil deserve having only 18 shells

The SU-152, a TD at the same tier as the Emil with a 152mm gun, can take more ammo into a battle than an Emil can

[serene saddle]

T26e4 super Pershing has been power creeped really bad. Its armour just doesn't work and bounce like it used to, and its gun is just underwhelming. Overall the tank is poor and isn't fun anymore.

[solid gate]

So I just researched the T92E1 because I had a certificate, what do I research 1st?

[haughty forge]

can we have a bad premium tanks too?

[solid gate]

I have the Sturer Emil but that stock grind is stubborn. I loved the sniper gameplay from the nashorn and I wonder what is another good sniper TD, I am grinding the Brit turret TDS because I think they are good snipers but are they?

[wispy rain]

Yeah, they are pretty good snipers, but they also function quite well as support for meds or heavys, especially the Conway with top gun.

[rigid lintel]

i have the chaffee :/

i kinda wish i vought something else now

[wispy rain]

Chaffees pretty good, and it leads to the Bulldog, which is a solid light tank

[serene saddle]

Superpershing is a joke of a tank. It has no side armour yet it cant hull down despite being as slow as ST-I

[wide flame]

Guys is anyone getting over 1k ping with 60% loss and a long time on the synchronizing data screen?

[narrow rampart]

@wide flame no need to post that message everywhere.

[wide flame]

sorry martin

[solid gate]

Hey should I keep or sell me T 34 1? 🤔

[wispy rain]

VK 30.02 D isnt as bad as people make it out to be imo. It has good turret armor, similar to the Panthers. With the stock gun you have a good rate of fire and you are decently mobile, while having a decently beefy hp pool for a medium. While your pen sucks and your dpm isnt great either, its still a fun gun to play as long as you arent fighting tier 8s. Your hull armor and turret rotation speed is really bad tho. Its not an unplayable tank, but its not amazing either. I think it should recieve a pen buff on both guns, more on the stock gun and a buff to turret rotation speed.

Otherwise, its pretty good in hull down positions against other tier 7 and 6 mediums

[tulip edge]

I had a fun time driving the VK 30 D when I grinded through it. Definitely not a bad tank

[wispy rain]

@solid gate As for your question, it depends on how much you enjoy the tank and if you have credits to spare.

[solid gate]

Ok

[narrow rampart]

Otherwise, its pretty good in hull down positions against other tier 7 and 6 mediums
@wispy rain doesn't this say it all?

It's good in hull down when it is top tier

[solid gate]

Another question is the chinese medium tree good to grind down?

[wispy rain]

Yeah, thats fair. I just see people claiming its unplayable and I feel like that isnt what the VK 30.02 D is. Its not good, but its not utter garbage either

@solid gate I'm not sure. The chinese medium line has really good turrets and can get 122mm guns, but they seem pretty average otherwise.

[serene saddle]

Idk why the VK 30.02M was removed imo its much better than the other VK meds at teir 6.

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[wispy rain]

Im not sure either, but the VK meds at tier 6 are still pretty nice tanks. VK 30.01 P is a fat med with a really nice top gun that allows you to slap other meds hard, while the VK 30.01 D is a nimble lil tank that is very bouncy on the turret and has a good rate of fire.

[solid gate]

@narrow rampart. i have a question.
FV215B 183 still worth it????

[narrow rampart]

In my opinion yes. It's not as strong as it was but big HESH for 1200+ never gets boring @solid gate

[solid gate]

I still dont know wut hesh means

omg, thanks @narrow rampart ! everyone sayin is trash and blah blah blah. 1 more question.
can i subscribe to your channel? lol

[wispy rain]

High Explosive Squash Head. Its a very strange ammo type, using vibrations (I think?) From the impact of the shell on the tank to cause lots of internal damage

[solid gate]

Huh sounds horrifying

Would it be worth my time to grind for the Sheridan?

Yes it would be worth it sheridan is rly good if you know how it works and how you win certain scenarios all around the sheridan is a good tank

Alright thanks

Np

Kinda a dumb question especially since I already have T92 and 60k experience on it for Sheridan

[narrow rampart]

@solid gate sure you can sub. I would be honoured

[keen escarp]

...

[haughty forge]

High Explosive Squash Head. Its a very strange ammo type, using vibrations (I think?) From the impact of the shell on the tank to cause lots of internal damage
@wispy rain kinda, first it covers the external armor , then explodes and crew / modules gets heavily damaged from that armor collision

[wispy rain]

Ooh okay

[solid gate]

So basically an apcr shell strapped with HE?

[haughty forge]

No, they are completely different

[solid gate]

Oh

[haughty forge]

@solid gate watch war thunder shell types explained , from war thunder official

[solid gate]

I've already seen how many and I'm afraid my brain will crash just trying to remember them all

I got the stock T92E1, what should I research first?

[haughty forge]

Gun

[solid gate]

I have a Sherman firefly and researched top gun, should I fully upgrade or go for challenger

I'd recommend upgrade

[storm apex]

i love shooting sherman fireflys
they're like big meatballs that u can pen from every angle

[narrow rampart]

Fully upgrade @solid gate and use it as long range sniper schnitzel

[kindred wren]

The line is a bit... special. Not the easiest if you want to play somewhat close to the front

[calm drum]

Warning logged for Krystian#1849. I couldn't DM them.

[fierce rover]

do you speek poulish

[narrow rampart]

No, I don't @fierce rover

[fierce rover]

Too bad

Looking bathed to play

we will play together

[solid gate]

@narrow rampart, gonna subscribe to your channel now, but does that mean i can toon with chu?? pls, i’m tryna max the at 15.

[bleak apex]

I almost have e50 researched, what modules should I research first, since there are quite a lot

I have about 20,000 free xp saved up

[lyric copper]

gun first, id then say turret or engine, tracks always last

[turbid thunder]

Never take engine before track unless it gives you +100 or more horsepower. Tracks allows you to reduces dispersion on movement thus better aiming time

[wispy rain]

Im not sure if there was ever a tank that needs the top tracks before anything else

[turbid thunder]

Well first should always be turret and guns anyway

Then tracks and engine or engine and tracks depending on what the new engine is capable of

[wispy rain]

Im very curious now..what is the most useless module in the game? Like, getting it does literally NOTHING for the tank

[lyric copper]

probably the engine for the St.Emil?

[solid gate]

nahhh

i made the worst mistake of my life!
M8A1 is shit dont research for it

[turbid thunder]

Radio on PC version bruh. But no modules in blitz are useless (or maybe the tier 7 gun on the KV 2 lul)

[solid gate]

What about the 122s on the 152 family?

[sturdy root]

What tanks should I go for

I like amor and dpm

[lyric copper]

@sturdy root T-62A or STB-1, WZ-113 also has these qualities

[solid gate]

STB-1 from what I have seen has no armor at all and the grind also has no armor

[sturdy root]

Thanks

[lyric copper]

the turret is quite nice, and yeah, grind is one of the worst

[mental violet]

STB has great armor? Its a HD beast and somehow bounced with the hull as well because people have potato aim. Don’t overpeek ridges since your turret is small. Don’t show sides and rear because it can be HE’d

It is by far my fav medium atm, bouncy medium

[solid gate]

Looking in armor inspector the STB actually looks pretty bouncy on the turret, I just haven’t looked at it in a while, I’m mainly wondering if the Chinese heavies are good. 113 looks good with a great turret and good hull at max depression but idk about the grind

[tulip edge]

STB has a pretty bouncy turret, but you always want to keep the turret moving.
Upper front hull sloping allows for trollish bouncing.
Sides are worthless

[lyric copper]

sides are made of wet udon noodles

[rapid anchor]

El vickers Ligth 105 esta rotisimo

[tulip edge]

English only
Solo podes hablar ingles aqui @rapid anchor

[keen escarp]

yeah
.

[bleak abyss]

Give the jg E 100 a legendary camo, it needs one and its the only German teir 10 that doesn’t have one

[jovial bone]

anybody wanna talk about the panzer II j?

[lyric oriole]

And how it's getting a much needed penetration buff next update and unnecessary nerf?

[jovial bone]

i would rather....how it's kinda OP, not saying it is, just an opinion

[regal mist]

Which is better t59 or 59 patton

[jovial bone]

just watch one of therussianbadger's videos about world of tanks, he got 3 kills in a row (excuse me if i commit any spelling error, english is my second language)

[orchid nymph]

Type 59, but I wouldn't get any of them the 59 is oowercreeped and the Patton just sucks

[storm apex]

Smasher appears in my game -> puts me down to 2 digit health in 1 shot
should smasher be nerfed?

[ebon parrot]

Is the t54e2 any good

[kindred wren]

the Smasher should be nerfed but probably never will,
The T54E2 is... kind of ok, it isn't the best tank at tier nine to put it mildly

[ebon parrot]

ok thanks, I shall wait then

[solid gate]

War Gaming, you know what to do

War gaming, you know what to do

[rotund palm]

@solid gate for the russian Bias

[acoustic pollen]

omg wow

[ebon parrot]

What is a good prem for grinding silver (only thing I want is for it to have a turret.)

[strange thicket]

lowe

[ebon parrot]

ok, thanks

[rotund palm]

If you want a tuff turret and Know how to hide the Hull then T34

[plush bobcat]

Eh i still pen the top of it

[strange thicket]

the lowe earns credits better
has really good gun
acceptable hull
and can hulldown
there is turret cheeks but those only really appear when a highpen gun is shooting at it
or when you switch to pramo
hard to ben nonetheless if you wiggle

[ebon parrot]

ok good to know, now I have a goal for gold or if it shows up in shop

[solid gate]

I’m thinking that the FV4005 should have an optional gun choice (auto loader, or a gun that is derp)

Is the nashorn a good ammo racker? I want a tank that I can easily ammo rack enemies from far away around tier 5/6

[alpine notch]

@solid gate WG said it will never happen, because FV215b 183 still there

[solid gate]

Alright

[solid gate]

Front turret armor of the E100 is garbage and should be buffed, it gets penned by lights from half way across the map like the T-22, Vickers light, and even the Leopard I, it's horrid

[alpine notch]

I think i found a stupid solution if someone wants to have and play FV4005 with 183mm's

It's the "Stage I", either for alternative tech tree from Conway-Stage II or prem/collector, thoughts? 🤔

Also, for balancing purposes, it shouldnt have special consumables like on Stage II (Spall liner, Reticle calibration, Improved engine boost etc.)

[kindred wren]

@ebon parrot Sorry for the ping, but i confused the T54E2 with the T54E1 earlier. the T54E2 is a fairly good tier eight heavy, and it looks rather nice too. It's basically a tier eight T110E5, but between us, I don't think it's worth risking the gold with gambling

No. Good. 183. tank. It's no good to the game. I don't want to fight against it another two years like against the FV215b (183)

[ebon parrot]

it's fine, thanks for the info

[alpine notch]

👌

[keen escarp]

Oop

[tepid smelt]

@alpine notch just make it's ammo rack go boom when hit by anything

[alpine notch]

Lol, true.. Grille 15 or other glass cannons too

[kind bluff]

I don't think I've ever seen or been ammo racked in a Grille before
I did get my rack hit today but I've never ever seen a detonation before 🤔

[alpine notch]

Because they already way too fast to die by HE spams, before even getting ammo racked lol-

[kindred wren]

the Ammo is transported in a truck behind it, so when it's detonated the tank isn't destroyed

[kind bluff]

ah i see

[storm apex]

What should I do against tanks that I can't pen? I'm usually in SU-100 and can't get around much, and I know HE shells can do some damage, but should i even waste my credits and reload on 50 damage?
For example, the AT8 / AT7 is very heavily armored and I have no clue what to do against them when they show up.

Should 1) I load AP and hope my RNGesus holds up
2) damage their tracks cuz why not
3) load HE and fire away
4) hold my reload and wait

I know some tanks can be penned through the tracks, but are ATs like that too?

[kind bluff]

AT's are ez pen if u shoot the cupola, it's only even easier if you're going against the AT8/7 with even bigger cupolas

[storm apex]

yea but the SU-100 is meant for backline sniping (i learnt that the hard way)
so i usually can't aim at the top that well
but thanks for the advice guys!

[storm apex]

that's for #blitz-memes

looks like penning through the tracks is ok

[solid gate]

Is that the AT-8

[storm apex]

yea
pic from wothangar

[solid gate]

the new soldiers in the new tank

[strange thicket]

Is the nashorn a good ammo racker? I want a tank that I can easily ammo rack enemies from far away around tier 5/6
@solid gate there is no such thing as a good ammo "racker"

[fervent sand]

Hey everyone. I’m having some issues playing the T-54 Itwt. It’s not to fast, has no armor, and only 5 degrees if gun depression. Any advice or tips for how to play it?

[strange thicket]

I think i found a stupid solution if someone wants to have and play FV4005 with 183mm's

It's the "Stage I", either for alternative tech tree from Conway-Stage II or prem/collector, thoughts? 🤔

Also, for balancing purposes, it shouldnt have special consumables like on Stage II (Spall liner, Reticle calibration, Improved engine boost etc.)
@alpine notch adding another 183mm into the game is a really terrible idea
and making it a premium or a collectible is even more Fword worse

[viral lodge]

183s just dont belong in the game.

[chrome tendon]

@strange thicket
In a game like Blitz, yeah, there's a reason on PC they replaced the 215b 183 with the Badger, since it fits the tortoise.
And kept the 4005 S-2 as the single 183, it was honestly balanced, having the biggest gun in the game with somewhat okay mobility but being able to be derped by ANYTHING, even some tanks at tier 3.
Added a massive risk factor anytime you wanted to poke out to fire since anything could spot you, not to mention arty is a 4005's nightmare.

But on Blitz they've nerfed the 215b 183 quite a bit, sometimes even too much, and yeah I play the 183 casually as well as fight against it on other tanks.

Yeah you still hit hard, but you're practically a 4005 without the movement or gun handling since the armor doesn't work as well as you think it would. If you don't hide somewhere nearby for the first 2 minutes then surprise someone with an ambush, you're already dead or can't fire a 2nd shell.
By that point half your team has been picked off because you can't support them like you could in literally any other TD. Almost doesn't seem worth it at times, basically got the KV2 treatment at tier 10. Not something you can play if you want to be a contributing tank, and not something you can play for fun since you have to actually take it serious.
The only tanks the 183 seems to be excellent against is meds, lights, or certain TDs that rush too early.
Which no one who's competent will do in tier 10

[storm apex]

nice essay, but im not gonna read it. C:

[alpine notch]

@strange thicket It is a stupid solution though, you dont have to take it srsly-

[latent meteor]

@fervent sand your best bet is to look up how to play t54 ltwt videos on youtube. There's lots of em.

[real gorge]

M6a2e1 exp. give me ur opinions

[solid gate]

Good, but not enough

Nice gun, nice turret, nice depression, enjoy getting nuked by the sides

[viral lodge]

@real gorge Pub match tank, any decent player is going to wipe an EXP out as long as they are in a decent tank.

[crisp rapids]

In who day wargaming up gold of 1275 to + 1785????

[dreamy arch]

Got this for $10

[viral lodge]

ok?

[dreamy arch]

i got the tank for basically nothing lol. 3 crates is all it took

[mighty wyvern]

I got the T54E2 on the first crate

[slim gyro]

Look at this

[magic breach]

Ah yes. I have no idea what this is .

[candid harbor]

@solid gate there is no such thing as a good ammo "racker"
@strange thicket

incorrect bigger the weaker the enemy's module gives better chance of ammo rack, if aimed properly and rng roles right
it goes boom better than smoller pew pew guns

[hollow notch]

Some guns have higher module damage (why the t49 was broken when first introduced) I personally find that my kpz gets a ton of ammowrecks compared to anything else that I play.

[keen escarp]

Imagine grille with armor.

[nocturne tiger]

is KV 3 good

[haughty forge]

ya

[hollow belfry]

It’s ok. Good sidescraper

[normal depot]

guys is pz s35 a good tank?

[narrow rampart]

No @normal depot

[kindred wren]

Not anymore. Used to be one of the go to sealclubbers but now no. Slow, bad armour and bad penetration/ damage

[narrow rampart]

Pew pew gun with bad pen. Decent mobility but armour wise nothing special. The bundle is great value but there is a reason why that bundle is so good

[kindred wren]

I still have it and it’s not much fun to drive

[normal depot]

then sell it for 1200 gold and restore it whenever u feel like doing it

[kindred wren]

Yeah, it’s worth a lot, but I don’t sell it because I am a bit of a collector

[normal depot]

oh ok how do u get pz 4 s?

[thick trout]

Was an event tank at one point, then it's come up in special offers every so often

[normal depot]

how do u get vindicator ultramarine then?

[rotund palm]

Tbh my only collector tank is Vk 90.01K got it in my first snow globe in Christmas event

I'm not even a collector i was hoping to get 10k gold in the Christmas event but the Vk 90 Is good

[kindred wren]

The Pz IV S. was only in events in the form of being part of crates you could win during the event, but it was initially sold with its starfighter camouflage (-o-)

[thick trout]

@normal depot Was an event tank originally too (about a year and a half ago?) and then has been sold in a bundle since then too

[kindred wren]

Yeah, you could only get it twice and the event that introduced it was one of the hardest doable events ever

[rotund palm]

Btw how to get an FV217 badger ?

[kindred wren]

You need to buy it once it’s in store

[normal depot]

do u know how much a pz 4 s and a vindicator cost?

[rotund palm]

In crates?

[thick trout]

Lol I completely missed the warhammer event because the Microsoft store wouldn't download the update for a week and a half or something and it happened to be the week of the event 😂

[kindred wren]

I actually got them for free. I was sick both weeks, and I stayed sick over the two weeks because I played so much

[normal depot]

nice arent they super expensive?

[kindred wren]

The bundle they were sold in later on was right in line with WG’s pricing policy at the time, which is expensive by today’s standards

The Predator is a bit of a bad tank so they can’t ask for too much for it

[thick trout]

From what I can remember the bundle with both of them was about £50?

Oh wait was there 3 of the tanks in the bundle actually? Idk it was overpriced for their performance no matter what lol

[kindred wren]

It was two and I can’t remember the price, I only remember laughing at it because it was so much for two mediocre tanks

It was one of the prime examples that showed that WG was overpricing heavily at the time. Luckily we have a very reasonable pricing policy now

[thick trout]

Yeah prices are fairly good now compared to what they have been, there's still the odd laughable deal but most things are about right

[kindred wren]

I am just kind of disappointed that the GuP tanks were not in an event

I mean, they are fairly high tier, so I would have understood if it’s extremely hard, but as it is it’s a bit... meh

[thick trout]

It seems like WG only like to do sets of tanks in events once and then sell them for money afterwards, like the CDC, kpf, exp etc

[kindred wren]

KpfPz 70 had a realistic chance of becoming at tank that you could grind over several events

[narrow rampart]

Was an event tank originally too (about a year and a half ago?) and then has been sold in a bundle since then too
@thick trout it was sold in regular bundles before it was made an event tank

[kindred wren]

The Pz. IV S. or the Vindicator UM?

[thick trout]

@narrow rampart I don't remember that at all lol must have been when I was still a noob and didnt want to spend money lol

[normal depot]

i restored my pz s35!

[frozen mural]

59 patton worth it?

[narrow rampart]

... didnt want to spend money lol
@thick trout famous last words, no? 🤣

Believe me, I can relate LOL

[keen escarp]

I got it before

I need to collect badly. Also why did you guys nerf the valentine pen

[thick trout]

@thick trout famous last words, no? 🤣

@narrow rampart As famous last week as the week before that, and the week before that and the...

[keen escarp]

@thick trout do you do youtube vids?

[fathom gate]

Pls add this tank to the game

[narrow rampart]

@fathom gate no need to post that on the entire server.

[fathom gate]

But i reaalllyy want an austrian tank in this game as an austrian

[keen escarp]

They will need to work on that tech tree tho @fathom gate

[haughty forge]

@fathom gate Centurion 5/1. RAAC is coming 😉

[narrow rampart]

That's Australian, not Austrian @haughty forge

[thick trout]

@keen escarp Nope lol Martin is the one you want on that front 😂

[keen escarp]

oop.

[haughty forge]

@narrow rampart my bad , i did not read carefully lol

[keen escarp]

I really need Is4

I have 115xp about so i need 121 xp :(

[rotund palm]

I researched it but no creds

[keen escarp]

Oh i got 7.7 mil :)

[rotund palm]

Your lucky cause i wasted 9 Mil creds on Gravity force

[keen escarp]

huh how?

[rotund palm]

Trying to make my Maus fly lol

[keen escarp]

Bruh!

[fathom gate]

Wargaming can add this austrian 🇦🇹 tank as premium with austrian flag. Like ac vi sentinel which has australian flag

[rotund palm]

But atleast it flew straight into a flying sheridan lol

Dang i miss Gravity force we need it permanently

[narrow rampart]

@rotund palm that would remove the fun out of it

[rotund palm]

I wanna see my Maus Fly again

Is there any event coming ?

[keen escarp]

You spent 300 battles on nothing.

[rotund palm]

Who? I'm proud i wasted 300 Battles lol

[keen escarp]

U

[rotund palm]

Way better than trolling in Chill/Date training rooms

[keen escarp]

that group with 3 maus trollin

Then the group with bat chat , progetto and T57 Heavy

[rotund palm]

I do trolling with my bro with his Maus too lol

[neon zenith]

Pls add this tank

[rotund palm]

@neon zenith not that but thiz

[neon zenith]

Lol

This camouflage is good

[naive obsidian]

I want Centurion 5/1 RAAC

[narrow rampart]

@naive obsidian that one is under testing atm so it will come eventually

[naive obsidian]

:)

[haughty forge]

@narrow rampart it has so much armor

[fathom gate]

Addddddd sk105

[naive obsidian]

I bought the FV4202.

How would Centurion 7/1 deteriorate to 4202?

[rotund palm]

I wonder if we're getting Jap heavies

[narrow rampart]

They won't come to Blitz as they are extremely hard to balance properly

[rotund palm]

How about swedish TDs and Heavies

[sturdy bane]

just set up some lore where the japanese heavies get hit by a shrink ray, then release them

[keen escarp]

I am so ready for 7.2 or 7.12

[tulip edge]

@rotund palm Swedish heavies are coming next, Tier 8-10, with two Swedish mediums at tier 6-7. #coming-soon
As for the TDs, I believe Wargaming have stated somewhere they do not plan on adding them for the foreseeable future.

[hushed shadow]

In #devs-answers

[viral lodge]

Any general advice for the T110E5?

[smoky narwhal]

Why is the IS-4 considered better than IS-7

[hushed shadow]

Better armor, better penetration values

[thick trout]

IS4 has significantly easier to use armour in random games, and in tourneys it has much better HEAT pen and a turret almost invincible to prammo

[tulip edge]

@viral lodge One tip I could give is that just because you are designated as a heavy tank, it does not mean you always have to go the heavy route.
E5 works well bullying enemy mediums and supporting your own mediums.
Also, try to use your 8 degrees of gun depression wherever you can and keep the turret moving. A lot of players in random battles will find it difficult to go through your turret.

[shell forum]

Accurate description of the sweating the bullied mediums see

[viral lodge]

Got it, I was already doing the latter but was normally fighting heavies, ill try mixing my routes up, thanks for the advice, should help a bit. @tulip edge 👍

[tulip edge]

No problem mate

[storm apex]

I know that APCRs are quite expensive. Should I still use them to pen when I know my team is going to lose? Should I use them early game to pen or just leave them to others?

[thick trout]

@storm apex Do you own any/many prems that you like playing?

[viral lodge]

If you arent low on credits and you cant pen dont be afraid to load prammo, its better to lose some credits than lose the round. Basically you have 3 options when you see something and cant pen.
1: Load Prammo.
2: Reposition.
3: Die.

[kindred wren]

furiously press 3

[river garden]

@neon zenith not that but thiz
@rotund palm hruh that can ruin the entire game

Why is the IS-4 considered better than IS-7
@smoky narwhal because it doesn't get ammo racked in every battle

furiously press 3
@kindred wren lol

[storm apex]

@thick trout
what are perms.
but I like playing the IS-3 and the SU-100

[thick trout]

Premium tanks, anything that makes credits easily

[storm apex]

no I don't have premium tanks 😦
but i do have ~100k credits rn

I have a habit of keeping lots of useless tech tree tanks so I might sell them

[kindred wren]

That's pretty low

[thick trout]

Then I would suggest saving up gold from ads to buy something cheap like that Mathilda IV on sale atm, and then try to use prammo as little as possible

[storm apex]

i play wotb on pc, how do I play ads?
I can't find the ad button lol

[thick trout]

Another useful thing is to sell the ammo and provisions of old tanks you don't play
Unfortunately you can't get ads on PC, you got to install it on mobile and login with the same account then watch them through there

[storm apex]

oh ok.
how else can I get gold?

[thick trout]

If you want to grind credits I believe the BDR is still the best tech tree tank for that? It was a little while ago I looked but I think it's still right

And basically spending money

[storm apex]

lol p2w is always the answer in any game
anyhow, thx for the advice

[hushed shadow]

Make sure to open the free crates as often as you can, and the mission crates. They give good amounts of credits, and if lucky you’ll get a premium tank (from those weekly crates not missions) which will help you grind credits

[storm apex]

ok thx

[solid gate]

@storm apex Gold videos to, you get like 18k+ every year

[hushed shadow]

He is on PC so he doesn’t get those, sadly

[ebon parrot]

Which is annoying

[wispy rain]

So I just got the ISU-152. Should U grind for the BL-10 first? The top stock gun isnt so bad, it has decent pen and it reloads quick

I*

[alpine notch]

@wispy rain If you fine with 122mm, just go ahead grind it for BL-10, the other top 152mm not worth grinding it imo

[wispy rain]

Ah, I see! Im guessing I should get top engine and tracks after BL-10?

[alpine notch]

Yes, should be obvious if you are having trouble with mobility

[azure creek]

isu without bl10 isnt a real isu

free xp it

[alpine notch]

For me, probably having BL-10 on last, since i want to suffer and troll people

Tracks > Engine > Top 152mm gun > BL-10

[wispy rain]

The largest struggle im having right now is the track traverse rate, but training crew to 100% should fix that. I dont have the free xp to get the bl-10 sadly. The stock engine accelerates good enough for me since its not exactly a frontline TD

[azure creek]

su152 derp gun is still ok in tier 8, u can use it

[wispy rain]

But if i get uptiered with su 152 derp gun, its going to be p a i n

[azure creek]

yes, especially when meeting buffed tanks like tiger 2 etc

[wispy rain]

So itll be even worse with tier 9s in the ISU-152

[azure creek]

i was grinding till bl10, forgot about that another (tier 9?) gun

[wispy rain]

There is the BL-9S which is a better 122

[haughty forge]

bl10 is best

[azure creek]

welp 122 gun is ok, not awesome in tier 7, but dpm is always a good thing

[haughty forge]

bl10 and bl9s has same dpm

[wispy rain]

Im using the D-25 mod 1944 right now, it seems to be the best to use stock without 100% crew

[haughty forge]

@wispy rain no , 175mm pen on tier 8 is just trash , use stock gun and use calibrated then spam HEAT

[wispy rain]

I dont have the credits to spare to spam heat sadly

[azure creek]

well, i said its ok in tier 7, but 8... Sure u can throw gold in enemy face, but...

[wispy rain]

Im a f2p player so I dont have a premium tank i can use to get credits quick and i barely have 200k creds rn

[wise moth]

@wispy rain Then use the derp gun and spam HE with rammer for 300 damage a shot

[azure creek]

owh, well that escalated quickly

[haughty forge]

then dont play, it is just going to be pain without bl 10, get bl 10 using free exp and earn credits if u dont want to use free exp for bl 10 and use calibrates shells, spam heat , or like Posit1ve said, spam HE or u will be just pain for ur team

[azure creek]

yup

[wispy rain]

I see..I think getting ISU-152 as this accounts first tier 8 may have been a mistake

[azure creek]

as i mentioned, use su152 derp till u grind exp for bl10

[wispy rain]

So just a full he loadout with rammer then