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valid lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I thought that's what it meant but it being left out kinda made me question if it was or not. At could just be anti-tank or what not.

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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AT does mean anti tank lol.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Alright, and when E3 peeks in a city map, you'll still showing the sides for move to the enemies and show the low plate

It doesn't meant that it have a bad armor @viral lodge

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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E3 has great armour overall and it is leagues more viable than the HTC.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Yes, because E3 is actually a very good TD, maybe even the best atm @viral lodge

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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It is, then you have the HTC, which is not good. See my point. E3 is a good assault TD. HTC isnt.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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You got a poitn @tepid smelt

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:30 PM

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E3 is what the HTC wishes it could be.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Nope, HTC meant to be a TD that works on corners

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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You are making my brain hurt, we have proven that corners are just as useless armour wise.

valid lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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The Virgin HTC vs the Chad E3

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/481445776178806785/502022366491312138/732281559708860426

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yay :)

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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You typed a wonderful paragraph so im happy to use it

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Is hides the 2 principal weakspots and show only 2 of them, sides and mini cupolas, you can't be permatracked if there is allies and mini cupolas are hard to hit @viral lodge

valid lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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How do you do that wizardry? Can make that message link thing on mobile?

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Dont count on allies, thats a dumb idea, and mini cupolas are easy as hell to hit if you have decent aim.

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@valid lodge press and hold on the message and copy message link

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Bro but it's a team dependent tank, don't count team is like go to a 1 vs 1 with a KV-2 @viral lodge

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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There is a difference between a team dependent tank like the St Emil and tanks like the HTC. (KV-2 sucks also)

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All RNG, aka not reliable, its a bad tank lol.

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Even if it have a great armor for it's own speed
@hollow moth you don't rush alone or assault targets in your JGpze100 it is more of a 2nd line support tank
one you have 16 sec reload
also a lot of weak spots, you aren't fast
and your gun handling isn't quite the best
i am much better side scraping and trading shots in it while also having cover and being around the team

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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They were trying to comapre the HTC to the Jag E100.

valid lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Can't seem to get it to work. I can only quote, copy text, mark unread, visit profile. Don't see message link

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@valid lodge hm, for me it is right under mark unread

valid lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Rip me. I appreciate the help though

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yikes. Np man

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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15 secs reload actually

And Yeah, I do frontline with it and I play as like the average @strange thicket, I can't imagine someone camping with 800 damage gun and a nice arnor

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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15 secs reload actually

And Yeah, I do frontline with it and I play as like the average @strange thicket, I can't imagine someone camping with 800 damage gun and a nice arnor
@hollow moth i run cali just for that extra HE pen lmao
2nd line is not assault it is more of support
but yeah being a non assault tank =/= a sniping td

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I would run Cali only for more HEAT pen, 418mm pen can seduce a lot of players

You can do well with Jagdpanzer E100 in frontline if you have armored teammates too, but it's quite annoying the prammo spam

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Also, run calibrated shells is like lose the opportunity to make 4 shots per minute

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I don't think your math is right

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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14.97 reload with rammer

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:45 PM

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15 seconds of reload is 4 shots per minute

wise moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Jgpz actually has good DPM for a TD if you run rammer

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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but you are not losing 4 shots a minute, just a small fraction of a shot. your statement is poorly worded

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Bro wait a bit

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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You lose about 220 dpm swapping to cali

wise moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 5:47 PM

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if you don't run rammer you are gonna do 3 shots a minute
also he didn't say lose 4 shots he said the opportunity to get those 4 shots

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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It's literraly 4 shots per minute, it's not Brazil14n talking, it's literraly the game @gentle wasp

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wise moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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If you run calibrated, your DPM advantage disappears

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hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Yep

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@hollow moth I know what the reload is I am just saying you worded it poorly

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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That's why I said "...lose the opportunity to make 4 shots per minute"

You can do it, but in frontline probably no

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Anyone else buy back the strv m/42 to get the strv 74 on launch day?

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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That wont be a for a few months so Im not wasting the garage slot currently.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Naaah, I'm not interested on Swedish tanks

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I’m just going to get 30k and then sell it

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@hollow moth it’s a 50B with an auto reloader
Sounds like a good deal to me

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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But 50B already have an auto loader cannon

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Bad dpm btw.

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Auto RE Loader

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Ah, like those Italian tanks

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Reloaders are over hyped. Glorified autoloaders with the ability to fire higher dpm or burst.

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Still fun to play tho

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Their DPM are actually good if you only use the first shell slot

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:02 PM

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They dont match the burst of normal autoloaders though, T57 is going to be the one to suffer not 50 B.

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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But it makes them versatile

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Welp, I agree with @crystal hare

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yes, but normally it has drawbacks, or they just get nerfed into the ground, like what happened to the Standard B and Prog 65.

crystal hare Jul 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Yeah, but if it’s balanced they won’t need to nerf it

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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If its balanced I feel no hype for it ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Its still months away

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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They'll nerf kranvagn, I'm 70% sure of it @crystal hare

wise moth Jul 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I have... opinions

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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lol, the feeling of knowing but not being able to say must suck.

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I think the Emil I looks kinda funny with the gun mount thing. Emil III is nice though. II is alright as well.

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Oh but I think the T25 Pilot should be tier 7 Pershing. It has less armor than Persh and Persh in my opinion is already bad enough. T25 will suffer horribly as a tier 8. Funny how they made that thing tier 8 yet the Eagle 7 is a tier VII. Wargaming makes no sense sometimes.

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Yes, but normally it has drawbacks, or they just get nerfed into the ground, like what happened to the Standard B and Prog 65.
@viral lodge standard B and prog 65 are not nerfed to the ground
they are still pretty good
well imo standard is better than prog

candid arch Jul 13, 2020, 6:37 PM

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What if we had a balanced version of the FV4005’s gun in PC

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Maybe exactly the same as the 183 .-.

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Then what is the point of having both

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 6:41 PM

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They don’t want 2 tanks with 183mm guns as there was enough backlash when the first 183mm was added. Granted the 4005 seems kinda odd with a made up 123mm autoloader but I guess that gun works.

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 6:42 PM

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fv4005 is gonna be even more cancer with the 183mm because of mobility and full rotating turret

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Though they should replace the Deathstar. Unfortunately there is only 1 tank left I know of they could replace it with. The Turtle 1. Assuming that thing actually had been planned to have a 120mm gun. Of course it’d have to be balanced for tier 10 and not tier 9.

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@strange thicket Well except that turret is super weak. So FV215b has better armor overall I think. I could be wrong about the hulls though. Both aren’t going to bounce too much but the 4005 has literally a cardboard turret in a sense.

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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well yeah the turret is weak
however it has camo
and instead of being exposed to enemy fire with the autoloader it will just peakaboo
and it is even more mobile than the 183 to do that
so yeah

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Kinda doesn’t make sense for it to have camo rating either does it? I mean taking into account the height of the turret it should be quite conspicuous. I don’t know which is taller though.

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I think they’d have to rebalance the 4005 if they gave it the 183mm sure but remove the FV215b then what’s wrong with giving the 4005 that gun then?

fleet wolf Jul 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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How do I actually play the lttb

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@fleet wolf Keep driving. Never stop. COD isolated targets if you can.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Bro this conversation about give 183mm gun for FV 4005 is giving me Vietnam Flashbacks

neat nimbus Jul 13, 2020, 7:33 PM

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they should put avaivable again bastille camouflage along with desert wind

viral lodge Jul 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@strange thicket I over exaggerated lol, but anyway compared to when they released they are worse but I get what you mean lol.

hollow pewter Jul 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Im not sure if this is the right channel for my question but anyways:
Is the AMX 40 going to be in the shop anytime soon? I missed out the last pop-up offer for this tank so yeah. Please give me hope that I can get one, I never owned it so I can’t restore.

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Who got the M4A1 Rev.

strange thicket Jul 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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it will probably be put back in the store but there are no time stamps so nobody can really tell you when

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I did honestly the M4A1 isnt as bad its like the Amx 50 100 but only one shot

edgy dune Jul 13, 2020, 8:08 PM

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amx 30 1er prot. worth buying ?

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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@keen escarp I think you are confusing the ravioli (a single shot) with the Lorraine (4 shot auto)
@edgy dune yes

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:12 PM

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No @gentle wasp i said its like the Amx 50 100 with one shot.

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@keen escarp ah well in that case it makes no sense
@hollow pewter probably not true

hollow pewter Jul 13, 2020, 8:12 PM

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someone said tanks that got removed in 5.5 will be in shop only once and then never again.
idk if this is true or not

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@gentle wasp hater hater clout chaser...

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@keen escarp if it’s clout chasing to point out people’s stupid statements then I am the king of clout chasing

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I said that cause what do mean it does not make sense you dont understand.

ebon parrot Jul 13, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Are either of the Warhammer 40k Tanks any good?

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Using proper English would help me understand
@ebon parrot no

keen escarp Jul 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Whatever haters gonna hate °^°

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Indeed
Np man

ebon parrot Jul 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Ok thanks

thorn glacier Jul 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Doesn't the vindicators bulldozer thing stop HE?

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Yes but why would you shoot HE at it

thorn glacier Jul 13, 2020, 8:33 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 9:02 PM

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shoots HE at Vindicator so it can have a chance

edgy dune Jul 13, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@gentle wasp what is the best equipment array

supple bolt Jul 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Does anyone know Löwe credit coefficient is?

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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185%?

rose venture Jul 13, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Tech tree tanks still without legendary camos... (F)
-T110E3
-Jg Pz E100
-Vk-72.01K
-Obj 263
-FV 215b
-FV 4202
-FV 4005
-WZ 121
Forget t10 prems we need camos for the top of each tech tree.

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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T110E3 should get a olive drab camo with the stars on the sides.

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@edgy dune sorry for which tank?

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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You know what? Give all American tanks an olive drab camo with a white star or 2 somewhere on them.

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Oh for Amx, I would use CS, EGLD, Vstab, Defense, HP, toolbox, optics, accelerator, and consumable delivery @edgy dune

solid gate Jul 13, 2020, 9:19 PM

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German tanks I think should have a camo that is like how you see some Tiger II’s painted up in GTiH. They look sort of woodland painted or something.

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I don’t know about Russian tanks or any of the other nations.

hollow moth Jul 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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@hollow pewter relax, AMX 40 isn't the same beast of before 5.5

But if you had it once, you can restore this tank making a ticket on www.wotblitz.EU

sharp siren Jul 13, 2020, 11:26 PM

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I used to love the amx 40 bc you can angle a little bit and the sides become impenetrable for the average ppl with the iq of a duck

edgy dune Jul 13, 2020, 11:37 PM

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@gentle wasp thanks mate

gentle wasp Jul 13, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Np

glass otter Jul 13, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Pretty sure the duck is smarter than the average ppl @sharp siren

tight raven Jul 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Is there a site or app on PC that shows armor thickness of tanks?

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 12:06 AM

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@tight raven armor inspector

tight raven Jul 14, 2020, 12:24 AM

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@gentle wasp thanks, really helps my gameplay

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Glad to hear it :)

lime thistle Jul 14, 2020, 12:35 AM

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M4A3E2 “Jumbo” Assault Tank

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tiny plume Jul 14, 2020, 1:05 AM

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stop assaulting

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Which tank is better The Amx 30 B or Obj 140?

forest bloom Jul 14, 2020, 1:35 AM

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I think I'd like the AMX more

broken turtle Jul 14, 2020, 1:41 AM

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chafee, gun first or track first?

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i think i would get the track?

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 1:44 AM

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@forest bloom ok

forest bloom Jul 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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The chaffee I hated. I think I'd go mobility first

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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I like amx cause it has speed

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 1:51 AM

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AMX this, AMX that

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 1:53 AM

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well I got my first tier X

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low elk Jul 14, 2020, 1:56 AM

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it might sound harsh
but i dont think you should be playing anything over tier 8

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 1:57 AM

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and whys that

low elk Jul 14, 2020, 1:58 AM

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look at your own stats lol
tier 8 is already a long stretch for your stats

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 1:58 AM

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yes and

low elk Jul 14, 2020, 1:59 AM

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so you are willing to ruin other player's experince at tier 10?
or would you rather be at your own level and allow others to enjoy the game

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a negative WR at higher tiers might be a reason not to play it
stick to lower tiers to learn before progressing through the game

forest bloom Jul 14, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Let him play what he wants lmao. We're not gonna have this argument again like you did with the other dude earlier. However, you've now taken that dude's side...

thorn glacier Jul 14, 2020, 2:01 AM

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He could just save it for later until he grinds to a tech tree X, then boom he now has 2 that he knows what to do with

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Buying a high tier prem early is epic, you capitalized on an opportunity. But using it to figure out how tier 10 works won't be very fun imho

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 2:02 AM

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well I didn't think I would get the tank with a 12% chance to get I just wanted the gold

thorn glacier Jul 14, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Lmao the tank is def worth keeping
Just dont let any flaming get you down

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 2:04 AM

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ok

tulip sail Jul 14, 2020, 2:13 AM

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That's what just happened with me but the chieftain mk6

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 2:44 AM

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@ebon parrot congratsss

ebon parrot Jul 14, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Thanks

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I hate noobs, they're so annoying that they should delete the game or learn how to play good.
Ex: a tier IV-V when I play Alecto on map Mines, 1 noob Leopard decided that cap the base is a great idea (really that isn't a good idea) and said cap the base, I said the team don't do that but they didn't care and cap and then the reds flanks and kill me and another paper-TD but they still keep cap the base. After that, the reds kill all.

karmic nymph Jul 14, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Lol. It’s tier 4. What do you expect.

marsh quarry Jul 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Its tier 4 yet

nocturne tiger Jul 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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^

marsh quarry Jul 14, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Some tier4-5 is noobs

nocturne tiger Jul 14, 2020, 5:41 AM

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obviously

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Even tier VI or VII still have

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Seriously, I only keep tier VI tanks and up because in that tier, they know how to play as a team

vestal umbra Jul 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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tier 8 prem tank show :v

broken sentinel Jul 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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@ebon parrot they're not saying you shouldn't have bought the tank. They're saying you should learn the basics before jumping to the top tiers. It's awesome that you got the tank, but what's infinitely better is knowing how to play the tank you got. I highly recommend not touching the tank until you've learned a bit more about the game.

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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They should watch guides

broken sentinel Jul 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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^^ Exactly, but they should also know a bit about each tank they'll face. You can only really get that through videos or experience

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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For me they should play all tier V

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That should give them exp

broken sentinel Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Nah tier 5 is horrendous at teaching people to get better at the game

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tier 7 and 8 can do pretty well preparing people for tier 9 and 10 but they'll have to keep in mind that tier 9 and 10 are just much more competitive

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Ok for me because I have enough experience so I think I'll play all until tier VI

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The hardest thing for me is the kv-1 and LT, I have no experience about LT

candid arch Jul 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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I’ve just noticed that Stock Conway gun is the top Tortoise gun

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A friend got Conway and only has stock gun and I looked the 183 line which I thought about grinding and tortoise’s top gun matched Conway’s stock gun. L1A1 120mm

broken turtle Jul 14, 2020, 9:00 AM

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meet too many bad arl today -_-. It's just ez, stay forward. But the noobs don't, and our team lose

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Pz 5/4 is the ultimate sealclubber

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One ram 300 damage
One shot 160
Can kill some tier 4s insta

fast compass Jul 14, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Eh it is decent

tiny plume Jul 14, 2020, 11:07 AM

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I hate noobs, they're so annoying that they should delete the game or learn how to play good.
Ex: a tier IV-V when I play Alecto on map Mines, 1 noob Leopard decided that cap the base is a great idea (really that isn't a good idea) and said cap the base, I said the team don't do that but they didn't care and cap and then the reds flanks and kill me and another paper-TD but they still keep cap the base. After that, the reds kill all.
@solid gate NAh game is for entertainment not for players to rage and get mad at someone else. mate your playing it wrong

scenic crest Jul 14, 2020, 12:07 PM

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It's okay to rage, never okay to quit

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Well perhaps we all take the game too seriously at times. But yeah, quitting isn’t an option really. I tried to and failed. Raging will happen as it’s a part of human nature really but quitting is not going to do anything.

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

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What's the difference between T 26A and Obj. 140?

flint eagle Jul 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Watch hisroyalfatness video from few days ago. Hull down vs brawler basically

pastel drum Jul 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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62a has a way stronger turret with 7 degrees of gun depression. Obj has more trolish frontal and side armor and is a tad bit faster. @solid gate

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Is it good to buy the Amx30 1er prot.?

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Or isn't this tank so good

south vale Jul 14, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@brisk jacinth it’s good if you know how to hulldown in a tank. It’s fast, a decent gun, and no armor on it’s hull

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Would you recommend it?

south vale Jul 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I don’t have it, but I would

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Ok thank you

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I just wanted to know if it's worth buying him and if you say he's good then I think about it after thank you

hushed shadow Jul 14, 2020, 2:27 PM

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@pastel drum little correction: 7° for the 62A

pastel drum Jul 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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yeah, sry

rustic gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Is there a way to restore tanks I accidentally sold?

haughty forge Jul 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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@rustic gate send ticket to wg

rustic gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Ok, thanks

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:17 PM

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WG just something to keep in mind you haven’t brought back the 121b in almost 7 months

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Again to the Amx 30 1er prot. What about damage?

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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310 alpha is fine. The prammo and HE rounds are not the best but the gun will get things done.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@brisk jacinth also speed avg is 60km

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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What is the maximum damage and with what ammunition you can reach it

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Woah you teleported so fast dang! Umm idk I have that tank from a few months ago.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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310-260-350 alpha

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Thank you

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Would you buy it anyway

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I would recommend it yes. I really love the thing.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Its cool i like it

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Looks good, goes fast, and blows up tanks. Perfect combo

ocean maple Jul 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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amx 30 is really good but now that there’s a vickers CR it’s pretty irrelevant

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Its like when your in battle and you do low dmg like the perishing or other tanks

kind bluff Jul 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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oh yea vickers exist lmfao

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:31 PM

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That’s probably going to get nerfed and when it does the Amx will reign supreme

ocean maple Jul 14, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Unfortunately yeah it’ll probably get nerfed if WG has more than 2 braincells

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Like it basically does the same dmg as tiger but amx 30 is fast with less armor and no cupola

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Vickers CR should have a bigger turret.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Then it will be like another fv4005 xd

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Not that big ya goof.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Goof = I am coming for you

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Bigger but not as big as 105’s even. Really the length needs to be adjusted more than anything.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:35 PM

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The Wz 111G FT And Wz 113G FT really can get through kpf front.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:36 PM

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If you are exposing the hull yea ofc

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:36 PM

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No like the front

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The whole entire front is not red and i was playing in the tier 9 and i was like woah-

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Yea the front hull and I imagine parts of the turret would be pennable

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I love that the chinese tank destroyer have some good freakin pen!! That why I went for that line

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Kampfpanzer 70 isn’t the best tier 9 heavy I’m sure. It’s not quite a heavium though. I don’t know what Wargaming was thinking when they made the thing the way it is.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Not even close

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Ikr it goes 40km and like that is crazy for an heavy

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Irl it went faster than that right? Well it’s technically an MBT.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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The mobility isn’t the issue

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Everything about the tank is meh

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I am talking to sting?

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Long reload for 560 alpha which isn’t the best alpha. Especially if you get in a tier 10 battle.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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And the pen is awful, along with bad gun depression.

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Also isn’t the pen kinda meh? Oh.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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The HE is useless.

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I have one last question if you had the choice between the Loraine 40 t, the Amx 30 1er prot. and the Is-6 for which you would choose

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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What is the gun depression again?

kind bluff Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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301er cuz thats not even a fair comparison

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Subpar pen, subpar traverse, subpar camo, (despite being low slung), subpar alpha especially HE

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I have the amx 30 and Lorraine

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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@brisk jacinth AMX

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Worst standard and prammo pen in class. 6 degrees @solid gate
@brisk jacinth Amx by a mile

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Subpar dpm, subpar depression angles. Overall the tank is just the definition of average and boring

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@gentle wasp Dang. I had forgotten how crap that was. Shouldn’t it have like 8-10 degrees of gun depression?

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@solid gate something like that yea

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Shame on WG for screwing it up.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I would say Lorraine

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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No way

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Like an lorraine would kill an is6

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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That’s not a fair way of evaluating tanks, and Amx is much better than both of them.

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Lorraine or Amx

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Lorraine all day

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Amx for sure. Lorraine is not that good, really only should play it for fun. Extremely hard to play @brisk jacinth

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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That thing does at least 800 to 900 dmg

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Over 7.5 seconds though...

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Amx is much better, and once the CR gets nerfed it will be one of the top t9 meds again

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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They might give cr 300 avg

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@keen escarp as carta said, you have to expose for way too long to get out your damage. Considering you are huge, paper, and don’t have great gun angles, it is just not a great tank.

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Bro the mad games comps are so funny

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imma go bye-\

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Lorraine should have the 100mm it has in PC and it had irl. 90mm makes no sense.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:49 PM

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If they gave the tank a 2.2s intraclip I think it would be a viable tank

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I think they only reason they gave it a 90mm was to break the norm of 3 shot autoloaders. But they have broken that twice now since Defender Mk 1 has 4 shots.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:50 PM

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And is far better

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:51 PM

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What tanks have auto reloaders?

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Because Mk 1 has less intraclip reload I think and better armor. At least it has some turret armor anyway.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@solid gate European meds from t8-10, plus the upcoming Swedish heavies 8-10 I believe

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Thx

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I’m still waiting for WG to release a tier 7-8 leopard like the tier 5 one. Imagine a machine gun at tier 8

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@quick thicket that means a low caliber gun at high tiers. Not a good idea

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@solid gate Pantera, Progettos, and Standard B. Well what Tiger said.

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Ok

tulip edge Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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gravedigger is the closest thing and its useless against higher tiers

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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^^^
the alpha and pen issues really show why those types of guns don’t work

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Like idiots wanted them to give us the Warrior or something like that with the 30mm RARDEN gun.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Sounds like a great idea to me imo, and it would be a light tank so it could flank, Unlike* the gravedigger

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Well if it is a low caliber it would have useless pen and if it is high cal then that just ignores realism and common sense

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Eh Gravedigger would have preferential mm if it didn’t dominate against tier 6.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Nothing is historically accurate in the game anyways give it like 190mm done

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@gentle wasp Funny you bring realism up since you know the T32 shouldn’t have T29’s 105mm gun.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Just get a nice autoreloader and be done with it
@solid gate but a high caliber machine gun is just...

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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You can’t say that play style wouldn’t be fun though? If they realized something like that I wouldn’t even hesitate to get it

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@quick thicket I would say that yes. I don’t enjoy that kind of tank.

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@gentle wasp Heh. I don’t know if you meant to tag me. I agree with you that autocannons and small caliber autoloaders would not work at higher tiers.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I value pen and alpha, the idea of exposing for a long time to get off a series of small, badly aimed shells does not appeal to me @quick thicket
@solid gate I did.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Tier 7 is not that high of a tier

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:57 PM

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But Gravedigger is not a true machine gun, it’s just a small caliber auto loader

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Ik it’s not a machine gun , that why I said to add that to a light tank in that tier

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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That’s an Amx 13 57

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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@gentle wasp Ok. Well you have the right idea there. Having to sit there for a long time to get several low alpha shots off isn’t a good idea in this game.

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@solid gate well not for me at least. I just don’t support the idea. 13 57 and Gravedigger are just good examples of why it shouldn’t happen

tulip edge Jul 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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The gravedigger gun would be not so horrendous if it wasnt on a lumbersome heavy tank that has no gun depression. Good luck in a face hug lmao

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yeah. 13 57 though is a small tank and fast. Gravedigger is just a hulking target.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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It’s just a matter of stat changes though. Tbh they could buff that AMX so that it can actually pen things and not expose themselves for so long

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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But that’s just the nature of a small caliber auto loader

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I’ve always wondered why the intraclip on the AMX is 1sec, it should be .6 or something

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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You’re talking about peekaboo front on to things there Carta.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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You should never be in front of anything in a light tank tbh though

tulip edge Jul 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@gentle wasp Out of curiosity, what tanks do you usually play?

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I agree, always wanted the thing but the interclip, pen, and gun angles always scared me off
@tulip edge meds. Recently my most played are the Vickers line, Hellcat, and Type 62

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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If they ruined VK 16 by making it’s pen for it’s tier crap on that autocannon and 13 57 struggles to dish out the damage because you have to stop and aim because weak pen then.......

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yeah fr. But in mall honestly adding new playstyles in great for the game anyways. Whether WG wants to make them good or not would be up to them

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Small caliber guns just don’t work because they struggle to pen even sides and rear of the mid to high tier tanks. They waste their full clip potential when they bounce even a single shot.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:05 PM

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See the problem is your assumptions of its pen. You wouldn’t even know what the pen could be yet you are assuming it can’t pen anything

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 5:05 PM

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It’s illogical to expect it to have good pen

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Take AA’s for example, they have really low calibers but they have real good pen to pen some armored tank frontally even

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Other than the British lights light tanks generally have average to poor pen. The autoloader ones in particular have poor pen. Why WG does it that way IDK.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:07 PM

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*cough * the whirlwind for example

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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We’re going off what has already been shown to be the case in game. A gun like a 30mm RARDEN would have crap pen.

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@quick thicket And dude they wouldn’t add “tanks” that are meant to be AA guns.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:09 PM

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But with the power of illogical gameplay, it would have great pen 🙅

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Yeah Wargaming makes illogical decisions for the game but they seem to make some they think are logical too.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Exactly. I stand by my point

wise moth Jul 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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They should just give VK 16 the 5cm gun back

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Well trust me Wargaming would screw up the tanks you are talking about. They’d be way too difficult to play for even an average/experienced player. A tank that only a select few can play does not make a good tank as not many will play it. Heck I’m surprised if anyone plays the Lorraine because it’s flaws are a bit too much for most people. Not talking about the newbies and such but the experienced and average players.

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@wise moth What good would that do? That gun didn’t exactly have the best pen either. Basically a Pz III or similar gun at tier 5.

quick thicket Jul 14, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I understand your point but all I’m saying is even if it would never end up in the game I think that type of play style should at least be super tested to try it out and see how’s its like @solid gate @solid gate

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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@quick thicket Well good luck attempting to convince WG.

wise moth Jul 14, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I know the pen was bad, but it was still better than the autocannon, and also, it’s a gun that’s not completely useless outside point blank. And by giving it good DPM, the gun could still be competitive for the tier on a light tank
@solid gate

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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@wise moth Maybe but I think not many played it as it wasn’t as fun as the autocannon. Though after removing that gun they nerfed the autocannon then buffed it back just to nerf it again.

brisk jacinth Jul 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Which is your favorite tank?

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Type 62

south vale Jul 14, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Smasher

thick trout Jul 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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30b or leo are just 👌

tulip edge Jul 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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ru 251

fervent sand Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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KV-1S

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I love Wz 113G

ancient vigil Jul 14, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I’m running stock (Real life) tiger gun, it turned out to be really fun.

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If the top gun had those 8 degrees of gun depression, the Tiger I would be the most OP heavium (excluding E50M) ever.

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Trying to ace it.

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viral lodge Jul 14, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Chimera is also a Heavium in affect

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 8:02 PM

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And a TD.

ancient vigil Jul 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I’d say that I was talking with tech tree tanks in mind.

candid arch Jul 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Alright but have you guys considered Angry Connor in Gravity

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You know how it goes almost 3x faster in reverse, it weighs nothing, and you can have fun with it

tulip sail Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Its fantastic I did it

keen escarp Jul 14, 2020, 8:37 PM

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oofer

pale crow Jul 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Smasher and Dracula are broke. But I think the Chimera is almost as bad.

rustic gate Jul 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I got my bt sv back I'm so happy :)

strange thicket Jul 14, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Chimera is not even broken

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yes it is a straight upgrade from t-34-3 but it is not god mode or something

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 PM

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TD gun with med mobility and above average armor seems pretty good to me.

strange thicket Jul 14, 2020, 9:37 PM

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pretty good not broken
i dunno
dealing with them wasn't hard or frustrating to say the least

gentle wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Personal experience doesn’t mean much
(if anything)

strange thicket Jul 14, 2020, 9:39 PM

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hmm fair enough

tulip edge Jul 14, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Chimera is a very strong tier 8

chilly kayak Jul 14, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Angry Connor TD - insane credit coefficient. Got 51,000 credits for doing absolutely nothing (zero damage).

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tiny plume Jul 14, 2020, 10:00 PM

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51k with premium and why not do damage? you can get reported lol

hushed shadow Jul 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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He is at tier 5, maybe he isn’t a very good player, and maybe he did try to get some shots but failed to pen or hit? Everyone gets 0 damage games. Just depends if they tried to do damage or not

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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That is true

low elk Jul 14, 2020, 10:10 PM

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ive seen people afk with chi nu kai or angry conner for this reason
but they dont do it in pubs

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no
its a waste of money

jagged sparrow Jul 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Nope waste of money

low elk Jul 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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M4A1 Rev

tiny plume Jul 14, 2020, 10:36 PM

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you missed it lol

solid gate Jul 14, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Sadly I have gotten 0 damage games as I played like an idiot and bounced or missed all my shots. Frustration may play a part after I’ve done it like once or twice sometimes. I mean missed or bounced a shot or 2 I feel I shouldn’t have.

karmic nymph Jul 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I ammoracked a full hp smasher in my su152 today. He got 0 damage. Doesn’t mean he was a bad player.

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Dang!

rapid orchid Jul 15, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Noice

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Got what he deserved

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Reminds me of a quote a wise man with clown makeup on said.

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Can collector tanks be restored? I'm asking this because it doesn't show prices to buy back collector vehicles on the VRT page.

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Does anyone remeber their first tier 10

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Yes it just costs gold@sharp spindle

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Should I sell my P.43 ann then?

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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What are you going to do with your 1250 gold? Are you short on gold for some offer? Or have you run out garage slots?

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:55 AM

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No idea. I might use a little bit on creds or free exp. I have 1.54m credits and I tried to buy my T34 back for 1.52m silver, but WG refused for some reason.

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Don't use gold on free xp or credits

You need the sell price of the tank + 10% additional credits to restore a tank

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Ah, damn.

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So I'd need approximately 1.6 million credits to buy it back?

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Yeah

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:58 AM

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God damnit, I'm out of premium certificates.

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Play your p43/06. It should make decent credits.

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Alright, time to go grinding again.

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But should I buy my T34 back or save up for the Tiger 2?

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 3:00 AM

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T34 first. You need a credit grinder

zealous anchor Jul 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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@tulip sail yea leo 1 for me

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Pretty sure you missed tagged but that's ok

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Mine was the m48 than m60

zealous anchor Jul 15, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Oh oops sorrrry I mean @keen escarp

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 3:30 AM

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@keen escarp I don’t.

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Oop okay

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Heh. My first tier 10 may have been the Chieftain Mk 6 or something. But I don’t remember for sure what tank it was.

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Ok

viral lodge Jul 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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My first was the FV4005 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

limber carbon Jul 15, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Mine was obj 268 :C

fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 4:04 AM

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mine was foch. although it was nerfed for a reason, i miss my broken op foch :c

sharp spindle Jul 15, 2020, 4:08 AM

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I went with the IS-7 lol.

tight raven Jul 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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what tank at tier 1-5 is a good for credit grinds?

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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None of them because t1-5 will make you want a lobotomy

tight raven Jul 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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how about tier 6?

viral lodge Jul 15, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I try to get out of tier 1-6 asap

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I like t6

tight raven Jul 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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well I only have a Chi-To SPG for tier 7, rarely gets into tier 8 battles for some reason

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Honeymoon period?

viral lodge Jul 15, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I play T6 occasionally cause I have a couple prems so getting my money out of them.

tight raven Jul 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Each AP rounds from a Chi-To SPG with maxed gun is -1000 credits, you won't notice unless you have no premium account time

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:50 AM

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@viral lodge same

broken turtle Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 AM

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should i sell my tiger 131?

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going to get the kv-2 for some fun, im so tired with all of my tanks in garage,

limber carbon Jul 15, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Just grind

inland osprey Jul 15, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Is the T32 supposed to have Russian gun handling

karmic nymph Jul 15, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I wish it had Russian handling, then it would hit those glorious snapshots. But sadly it doesn’t.

woeful creek Jul 15, 2020, 6:35 AM

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what tank at tier 1-5 is a good for credit grinds?
SU-85I is good in credit grinding in tier 5

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Tetrarch is British... WG wtf

distant nymph Jul 15, 2020, 8:17 AM

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It was added before the Brit tree as a “Lend Lease tank” although the Russians never had tetrarchs I believe

civic terrace Jul 15, 2020, 8:28 AM

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@gentle wasp the vk 28.01 but it's a tier 6

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 9:01 AM

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church GC

tiny plume Jul 15, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Chaffee

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 9:45 AM

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enriched stug

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Which is better Cheeftain or amx 30 1er prot. ?

tiny plume Jul 15, 2020, 10:43 AM

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what the hell are you comparing

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Which offer is better

tiny plume Jul 15, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Stupid question you can’t compare them

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Sorry😢

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Huh? You could compare which is a better offer. Like, is it better to get the AMX or the Chieftain?

tiny plume Jul 15, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Obviously Chieftain but apparently people don’t have the brain cells to choose it

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Chieftain is not necessarily better than the 30 Prototype.

tulip edge Jul 15, 2020, 12:39 PM

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@brisk jacinth weird comparison
The amx 30 prot is a good tank though

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Sorry because of the compination but I just think about which of the two I should buy

tulip edge Jul 15, 2020, 12:48 PM

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@brisk jacinth They are both solid tanks.
Its more down to personal preference really here and what you want.

I have not really played my amx 30 much so someone else can comment on that for you.

The chieftain is a solid tier ten though. It has good mobility for a heavy, gun depression and is very accurate. Its turret armour is good to an extent, but you have a cupola that can be HE’d and tanks can shoot your cheeks. It has poor hull armour, so you want to hide it whenever you can.
The best way to drive the chieftain is to go with your mediums , and use your mobility, gun and superior HP to support them and bully enemy mediums. Much how you would do with fv215b

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Okay

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But I think I'm going to get the amx

drowsy knot Jul 15, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Hmm idk if ya would agree with me
but I'd rather have 5 degrees of gun depression and a nerfed gun than 3 degrees of gun depression on the wz-120

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@distant nymph @solid gate the tetrach was used quite a bit by the Russians granted so was the m22 but it makes perfect sense why the tetrach and churchill are Russian since the churchill 3 was the most common one sent over and with how many tetrachs were sent and used

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@civic terrace wat

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 2:56 PM

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@brisk jacinth dude just get it

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Ok

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 3:08 PM

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It might go out of stores if you keep thinking

north musk Jul 15, 2020, 3:16 PM

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When will amx 1357 come in shop

feral thunder Jul 15, 2020, 3:29 PM

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112 Glacial is a good tank right? Not many people thinks so. I get a lot of hate playing as it. Idk what to do.

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fast compass Jul 15, 2020, 3:33 PM

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it is fairly strong after the buff. celestial is still superior

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dont pay attention to the hate. idk how to play it since i dont own one. i am guessing it will have generic soviet heavy playstyle

brisk jacinth Jul 15, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Has anyone played the improved iS-6?

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@feral thunder Have you earned or bought the tank

feral thunder Jul 15, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I bought it

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It’s a pretty good tank but you can’t rush into battles that’s what most people do. You have to play strategically with it.

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@feral thunder I got a lot of hate when I first got my K-91. It will pass. (It took a month for it to pass for the K-91, but it will pass)

shell forum Jul 15, 2020, 4:08 PM

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M4A1 Revalorise, how's that thing? ~~And are there any store offer worth picking up lol~~

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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112-2 is still superior but I just forgot how to play both so I get wrecked if I roll out in them.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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The rev is an excellent tank I dont get why people still underestimate it on the field

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Because they are morons.

shell forum Jul 15, 2020, 4:43 PM

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M4 hull. A bit too tall for liking but I think that's about it

haughty forge Jul 15, 2020, 4:43 PM

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no hull armor and that is all

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@shell forum the gun is wonderful and it has decent mobility and turret armor. Definitely a tank you should get

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:45 PM

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There aren't many 105s with that good of mobility and turret armour

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Star Wars camos!

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Huh?

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Just kidding. We don’t need more of those.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Lol ok I was just a bit confused at the randomness

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Have you met me? I can be totally random sometimes.

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Speaking of random but keeping it to the topic of this channel what do you think they should add after they add the Swedish Heavy Line?

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 4:50 PM

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They’d probably do the polish line since the 50TP has been a thing in the game for some time

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Tbh after that I'm not so sure what they'll add theres individual tanks I can see them adding but that's about it

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Um ok but what after that then? This isn’t about Wargaming’s plan but just theorizing and looking at what we would want for new tanks. Though as Fugit has said it might be better if they shifted focus to more maps and game modes.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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That's probably what they'll do or they do something the playerbase will hate like acs

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Acs?

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Yeah what does acs mean?

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Armoured cars

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Wheeled vehicles like the EBR?

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Yes

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Oof. Technically already have something like that with T7 Car. Light VIC also sucks.

haughty forge Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/no-please-no-god-no-noooo-gif-5938426

Tenor

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I feel like those might be too hard to add. Such high speed might not have as much use because we don’t have as much open ground or even space for them to run around before they run into enemies

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Not really the t7 car was only called that bc politics not bc it had anything like a car

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Oh yeah I'm not saying I'd want it or that its guaranteed but then again look at atgms

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Well I said like that not exactly like that. Meaning it’s similar I guess. The gun is just a 50 cal.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@hushed shadow agreed, they are just recon vehicles and there is not much need for dedicated spotting in blitz

shell forum Jul 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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So the M4 play like a slow Leopard 1? No armor very good gun?

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Yeah but tbh I can see them adding it to be able to sell more premiums

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Afaik there isn’t ATGMs in PC so why did they even add them in Blitz? The great mystery of Wargaming’s “big brain” moments.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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@solid gate non-LOS attacks tho. Same idea. Maps aren’t big enough for true arty so this is the next best thing

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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To be gimmicky but it turned into being op

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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I’d like to see some kind of low alpha very high ROF gun. Not sure if such tanks existed in the WW2 time period or whatever time period WG limits their tanks to. I played Armored Warfare Assault for a bit and some of the ‘pew pew’ low alpha very high reload guns were kinda fun

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Honestly I’d like to just fill out the German and Russian light tank lines and maybe have Swedish lights. Um I don’t know what beyond that.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Theres quite a few examples they could add of that such as the M-60

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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M-60 with HVMS gun or whatever it was called? Well it’s a 60mm which is something we don’t have in game.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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We also don't have one that's a semi automatic gun thats fed by 3 round clips

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Though I think with the difference between it and the 57mm guns being 3mm they’d probably give it the same alpha as a 57mm though I personally would add 5-10 alpha per shot for it.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Tbh I'm not sure since they adjust the alpha to the teir and I cant imagine that being anything below a t7

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I forget if you were part of the discussion about machine gun type weapons at higher tiers, but this is pretty much the same problem

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I dont think so

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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What’s the problem with this? I haven’t given this type of gun a lot of thought really

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Ah ok well it would have terrible pen and alpha, and I don’t think those types of tanks fit well @hushed shadow

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 PM

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If it's high enough rof and pen I'd think it would be alright

The 60mm has excellent pen

120mm at 2,000m

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 PM

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In PC where spotting is more necessary it is ok to have a subpar weapon but here you have to be able to deal with other tanks

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 PM

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True, good point

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I may be biased since I do not enjoy low alpha low pen guns because of the amount of time you are exposed to the enemy

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I'd like them if they had higher pen

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I think the M-60 would be tier 4 or 5 at best. Then again 13 57 is a tier 7. However, that’s a autoloader light tank not a Sherman tank.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Um why teir 5? It can pen 120mm and is an auto loader ish

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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type 58 or t3485 and why

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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34-85 because I like the turret better

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Tbh I felt both were a bit bland to play

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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type has better dpm

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@tulip sail Eh it’s not a true autoloader though. And ok maybe tier 6 then. 7 though is a bit high as proven by the 13 57.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:13 PM

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34-85 has better pen, handling, and speed
Because you need to use prammo more in the type the DPM means nothing

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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34-85 is the better of the 2 though I have Aced Type 58 like 2 or 3 times. Miracle Aces.

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I would go T-34-85. What’s the use of DPM if you can’t pen anything

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:14 PM

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^^^

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34-85 also has better shell velo and I find that important

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@solid gate if implemented in the game it would probably be an auto loader or autoreloader due to it being able to fire as fast as it could

wise moth Jul 15, 2020, 5:17 PM

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T-34-85 with the small 85mm gun is better than Type 58 in every way

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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@tulip sail Auto reloader would be interesting. However, we already have the M4/FL10 so maybe make it regular autoloader.

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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That's what I'd think they would do but theres no telling with wg

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I feel sad for T-34-85 Victory as it has the worst standard pen out of all of them.

wise moth Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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T-34-85 Victory is the T-34-85 with the small 85mm that makes credits

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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and looks amazing

haughty forge Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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atgs are not a problem with their dpm and many players cant use it

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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My mind is drawing a dead blank, how do we get the T-34-85 Victory again?

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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You buy it

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Ah, thanks. For some reason I thought we could win it

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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They might have been an event that I'm forgetting

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I don’t remember one

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Honestly T-34-85 Victory may have the credit coefficient and a nice camo but the T-34-85 is better in my opinion.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I found the 34-85 kind of boring but I want a victory just for the looks

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Well T-34-85 has still got it. T-43 not so much.

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Not saying T-43 is bad but it feels outdated and maybe a bit power creeped.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:26 PM

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It’s so overshadowed. DPM used to be the selling point of the tank and now it’s ranked 7/17 t7 meds

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I don’t know about KV-13. Last time I played that thing is was worse than T-43 is. But someone here said it was buffed.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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It has a better gun (ROF wise) and more armor but I couldn’t handle the 5 degrees of gun depression

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Yeah. 5 degrees seems to be the general halfway mark at upper tiers with 10 being the best. At least until Emil III or whichever one comes with 12 degrees. 5 feels bad though. T-43 I think had 7 or 8 though.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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It has 8 yes. I think 6 is my personal limit.

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Yea T-34-1 has 6 and I was ok with it but the 34-2 has 5 and boy did that mess me up

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Yeah. T-34-2 having 5 is the biggest issue no matter which gun you are using. Though the 122mm has that superb aim time and is surprisingly accurate for a gun with bad dispersion.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yea I really struggled with both guns. Didn’t take any chances and skipped the wz120 completely

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Is there any way we could make the at branch suck less bc I want to die currently

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Yeah. I went up against a WZ-120 with my T-34-2. If I hadn’t had less HP than him and made some mistakes plus he got support I’d have beaten him. 3 degrees of gun depression is just useless.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Don’t do it. 183 is terrible. @idle valley
@solid gate exactly my thoughts lol

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I’m doing it for British expert @gentle wasp 😢

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@idle valley AT line got armor buffs but it seems not enough. The AT 2 is the only good one.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@idle valley that’s a yikes

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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215b went from OP to trash.

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@solid gate it needs a gun,speed, and armor buff lol

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@idle valley The guns are fine once you have them on target. The only thing I want for them is traverse buffs.

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They are somewhat realistic to their role of being assault guns that just drive forward and shoot stuff. The sad thing is their front armor doesn’t hold up and they suck at turning.

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Big facts @solid gate

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Especially tort, for a mobile bunker it is shockingly squishy

haughty forge Jul 15, 2020, 5:44 PM

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tort is ez pen lel

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Yeah, AT 15 I once penned through the gun mantlet area with a T29. Makes no sense to be able to do that.

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Heck I struggle to not get penned in AT 15 A premium which is a tier lower and better slope on the hull plate. AT 15 just sucks.

orchid nymph Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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How is the is6 armor now?

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Don’t know yet.

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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^^^ but don’t expect it to be busting up heavies now

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Considering it was really good prior I'd say still really good (for its job)

ancient vigil Jul 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I guess it will help with bouncing light tank guns and some mediums.

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I ran my IS-6 in a couple of Skirmish battles before the update dropped. Did fairly well myself but my teammates just fell apart and I got wrecked in the end. One was against an enemy IS-6 who had more HP and because I panicked I bounced both my shots.

strange thicket Jul 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Skirmish was hot garbage
light tanks sucked to play
and you would dominate in something like a jageroo
and people had no idea what to do and they even split sometimes
people going weird places and not sticking with the team or doing something useful
i also noticed a big amount of teammates that contribute nothing to the game

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Well Skirmish also sucked for my Borsig.

strange thicket Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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hell
playing paper tanks in that mode is a death wish

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Yeah. It’s best to play heavies in the mode.

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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It’s best to play heavies in any mode

haughty forge Jul 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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or high dpm tds like jagdtiger, i dominated this mode with it

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Yeah Skirmish Mode is tough in lights because they don’t have the space to move around. Heck even mediums kinda need space.

strange thicket Jul 15, 2020, 5:59 PM

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yknow what would make this mode actually good
playing in the entire map instead of 1/3 or 1/2 of it

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Then if the team spilt you are left alone and get wiped out

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Sure. You are only taking away 2 tanks. Not that much of a different and our maps are already small.

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5 v 5 you should have 2 on one side and 3 on the other if not just all go together but not bunch up.

strange thicket Jul 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Then if the team spilt you are left alone and get wiped out
@fervent sand that is what already happened
but on a smaller scale
teammates just put throughout half or third of the map and being useless
heck even some people in heavies didn't stick with each other

fervent sand Jul 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@strange thicket Yes, but the affect was rather small compared to imagining a 5V5 on a full scale map

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We should move this discussion to #skirmish as we are off topic

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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What’s the best Heavy in your opinion anyway?

narrow bison Jul 15, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Tier?

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Any tier

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 6:40 PM

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maus

idle valley Jul 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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E 100 or is4

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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is4

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 7:08 PM

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@shell forum the m4a1 rev is fire good speed like 44km

onyx venture Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Anyone remember what the BT-SV's reload time was before update

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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the reload wasn't changed

onyx venture Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I swear it wasn't 5 seconds before

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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HP and damage was changed.

onyx venture Jul 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Well either way it's actually useable now imo

keen escarp Jul 15, 2020, 8:26 PM

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They updated the hp on lower tiers

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Like the tetrach has 424 hp with full equipment

humble storm Jul 15, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I want my pfp to be an actual thing

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SPPZ 100C

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📎 20200628_201116.png

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Considering the sp1c in game is already a td I'm confused at how I feel about this

humble storm Jul 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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XD I just wanted to prevent SP I C from being he'd all the time. And btw this is a joke

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 8:54 PM

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But this would have to be a paper hull too

tulip edge Jul 15, 2020, 9:03 PM

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a hull that small carrying that gun that big lol

tardy yacht Jul 15, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Panther M/10 is blatantly OP

low elk Jul 15, 2020, 9:15 PM

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good joke
you have any other jokes?

hushed shadow Jul 15, 2020, 9:22 PM

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St Emil is a fast tank

cursive root Jul 15, 2020, 9:44 PM

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TOG II* is OP, he is too fast and have too good armour, he must be nerfed XD

distant nymph Jul 15, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Remember it has terrible dpm to balance that. But the best in class damage makes it op

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@tulip sail What do you mean it’s a TD?

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 10:16 PM

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It's a modification of the spz11-2 to make it have actual anti tank capability

neat nimbus Jul 15, 2020, 10:20 PM

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can help me?, theres a give away and the prize are the tier 8 premiun from tech trees and i have the lowe and the t34 heavy and fcm 50 t but which of the others are meh or decent or perform kind of good

tulip sail Jul 15, 2020, 10:22 PM

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The jagdtiger 8.8 is very good

neat nimbus Jul 15, 2020, 10:23 PM

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alright then

gentle wasp Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Yea that is probably your best option

low elk Jul 15, 2020, 11:33 PM

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IS6 rn is also decent

zenith rivet Jul 15, 2020, 11:36 PM

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the t46 is back! seal clubbers dream lol

solid gate Jul 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Huh?

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@tulip sail What’s the spz11-2?

tulip sail Jul 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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A recon vehicle

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Whats tank is everyone grinding for?

tulip sail Jul 16, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Tbh rn I'm grinding several depending on what I feel like playing

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The Russian meds and Japanese tds are the main ones rn though

viral lodge Jul 16, 2020, 1:07 AM

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E5

peak ferry Jul 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Same E5

trim lion Jul 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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What t10 should I get next? I have all of Russia, Foch, Stb, and progetto

ebon parrot Jul 16, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Silver at the moment

wise moth Jul 16, 2020, 1:23 AM

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@trim lion Maus. Maaaauuuuusss

kind bluff Jul 16, 2020, 1:47 AM

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maus man

tight raven Jul 16, 2020, 2:02 AM

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This is the SPZ 11-2, the SPIC without its anti-tank gun, but as a recon vehicle with a very tiny turret, and machine gun

📎 Z.png

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Oh, I see. A bit funny looking with that tiny turret.

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I’m debating what tier 8 to get next. Gotta be German or American. Then I’ll do Russia and work my way down.

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 2:42 AM

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T32 cause the e5 is great if you go American

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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T32 itself though kinda sucks. The accuracy and low standard pen is the problem.

tulip sail Jul 16, 2020, 3:47 AM

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That's the thing though that's all that's bad about it sure the hull is ok but it's not ment to be excellent

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Well I’d give for a even worse hull if it meant the thing could actually hurt something rather than being cannon fodder.

viral lodge Jul 16, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Im on the T32 rn, id rather stock grind the E 50 or Type 61 again than play this tank.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Wz120

inland osprey Jul 16, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I just got the T32 a week ago, the armor is passable but the gun handling is ridiculously bad for such a small gun.

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Hey guys, I have a question,
I have a T1 Heavy and a BDR G1 B (Both teir V)
As ya'll know that BDR is at a higher position during battle, but
I usually win more kills with the T1 Heavy. Even though it is the lowest tank(Above wolwerine)

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U guys know why?

inland osprey Jul 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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T1 Heavy is legit one of the most OP tanks at tier 5

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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😯

inland osprey Jul 16, 2020, 6:11 AM

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It had bad armor (for a heavy tank) before, but then WG buffed its armor to be even thicker than the KV-1, which is a slower tank btw.

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Yeah, I have experienced it

inland osprey Jul 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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So yeah, it's normal to have lots of kills in the T1 Heavy. The BDR is also very strong but I guess the side armor gets penned way easier than on the T1 Heavy.

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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You will also notice that there is a spot in the front at the bottom too where you can penetrate it.

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:16 AM

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@unreal fox The bdr and t1 are at the same tier, wdym higher position?

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Have u battled with BDR and T1 heavy?

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BDR is nearly always at the top while T1 heavy stays at the bottom (A tier V battle only, mind you)

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:20 AM

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What are you talking about when you say top?

hushed shadow Jul 16, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I think he means on the team list, the BDR shows above the T1 Heavy like tier 6s are shown above tier 5s. That doesn’t say anything about the tank really

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:31 AM

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@unreal fox Being on the top is absolutely meaningless

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Yes what @hushed shadow says is what I mean

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:37 AM

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@unreal fox yeah being on the top does not in any way mean that your tank is stronger. Higher tier tanks are just listed on top

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:40 AM

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You don't get what I am saying!
If that is so, why doesn't some other random tier V tank come on top of the team list? Doesn't make sense man!

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:41 AM

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@unreal fox if you are trolling then idk what to say. If you are new to the game then it would probably be a good idea to start listening to others cause you don’t know much.

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 6:42 AM

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😠 I have been playing for two years and I am serious, no joke

karmic nymph Jul 16, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Then good for you buddy

haughty forge Jul 16, 2020, 6:48 AM

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what is the point of this argument duh,

hushed shadow Jul 16, 2020, 6:49 AM

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@unreal fox Nah it doesn’t say anything, and it isn’t random, but that’s just to keep a certain order I guess, because two of the same tank would then show up beside each other. Don’t bother about the order. Tanks get balanced all the time

lethal basin Jul 16, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Its funny because i thougth that somehow the tank in the top of the team list was superior than the others tanks, and even the load screen tells you that the one on the top is something like a leader or such. (I dont know if this is something that only happens in spanish version)

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Thanks for the answers wow.

pure sleet Jul 16, 2020, 8:49 AM

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isnt the centurion 5/1 completely outclassing the centurion 1? i was checking the stats and theres literally nothing the centurion 1 has over the upcoming 5/1

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 9:14 AM

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@unreal fox Team list is based on tier THEN alphabetical order.
BDR starts with B so it is at the top. T1 heavy starts with T so it is later.
Idk what happens when two of the same tanks show up, but still.

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@pure sleet Of course. Look at the
Cromwell vs Cromwell B
P43 bis. vs P43/06 Anniversario
Caernarvon vs Caernarvon Action X
KV-1S vs KV-1S Thunder

Prems are usually better than their tech tree counterparts

pure sleet Jul 16, 2020, 9:23 AM

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but all the outrageously stronger ones are the british tanks:
the cent 5/1 has more mobility (5 km more top speed, better terrain resistance), better armor (200+ mm vs 100 mm frontal plate), and the annoyingly strong turret all british premiums have over the tech tree slightly troll centurion ones

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shouldnt the british tech tree at least get some sort of buff?

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Cent 1 needs a very slight buff and cent 5/1 needs a nerf

unreal fox Jul 16, 2020, 9:36 AM

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@unreal fox Team list is based on tier THEN alphabetical order.
BDR starts with B so it is at the top. T1 heavy starts with T so it is later.
Idk what happens when two of the same tanks show up, but still.
@solid gate Thanks, you explained everything

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Np

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 10:38 AM

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which one to take, E100 or Maus?

hushed shadow Jul 16, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Maus

trim pine Jul 16, 2020, 10:43 AM

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e100

violet yarrow Jul 16, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Maus, I have E100 and its turret is a huge target even if angled I have a harder time dealing with Maus than an E100 but if you want more DPB go E100

tulip edge Jul 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

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@solid gate They are both good tanks, its more down to your own personal preference really.
E100 suffers more than the maus if you do not angle correctly. The turret is vulnerable to gold.

E100 line is much easier and better to go down though. Tiger II and E75 are in strong states right now

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Vk 100.01 is very strong

haughty forge Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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wdym maus line is stronk too but maus itself has trash gun

serene apex Jul 16, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Am I the only one here who finds the bdr op

humble storm Jul 16, 2020, 11:51 AM

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BDR is op

fast compass Jul 16, 2020, 11:51 AM

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T1 is more op. But yeah bdr gets there

haughty forge Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 AM

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both are op

quick thicket Jul 16, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Can someone tell me why the AMX 13 90 has such a looong reload time tf

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 12:01 PM

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What are some reasons to get the fv215b and not to get it?

pure sleet Jul 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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AMAZING gun and fair enough turret/upper plate with decent mobility, but otherwise dont rely on the armor at all because people will pen you everywhere

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Please nerf this (Centurion mk 5)

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livid yacht Jul 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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An even more armored Defender MK 1 with a single shot gun

ancient vigil Jul 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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At least it didn’t get HESH

livid yacht Jul 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Hold WG's beer

ancient vigil Jul 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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It gets the Cearnarvons top gun though

livid yacht Jul 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Yet it has the same stats as the Cent 1 with the Type A barrel

ancient vigil Jul 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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On Cearnarvon its more accurate and shoots faster.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Guys, should I pick KV-2 or KV1s ?

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KV-1S

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Ahh ok. Thx

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Guys, grind Tiger P 1st or other line? And if other, what line?

fast compass Jul 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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continue grinding for the maus

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Ok... VK 30 is horrible.... o_0

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What vk?

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30.01 p or d?

fast compass Jul 16, 2020, 2:18 PM

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i am assuming p since he is heading to tiger p

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:18 PM

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It’s not bad

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Good speed and good gun depression

trim lion Jul 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Why th are they making a t44-85? It’s pointless.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:45 PM

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VK 30.01 P is better than 30.01 D in some opinions.

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30.02 D though is the bad one.

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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*most opinions

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@gentle wasp I meant what I said.

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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So did I 👀

trim lion Jul 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpVeHSWp9Y

YouTube

dalek

Ripcord T34

original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMMCYWxAtco

▶ Play video

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Sell this in crates for 10$ each with 2.5% chance

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Perks:
Cannot shoot while moving.
Gun is fixed in place after aiming.
Very limited amount of shells
No gunner due to safety reasons

pure sleet Jul 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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the original british tech tree is starting to become outclassed by its premiums keksdee

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@gentle wasp You trying time correct something that doesn’t need correction. I don’t want or need someone else putting words in my mouth.

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@pure sleet That tech tree is one of the crappiest anyway when it comes to it’s flaws.

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 3:29 PM

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@solid gate relax man, I was just inserting my opinion. Nothing personal, just a different view

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@gentle wasp Eh you could have done it without implying I said the wrong thing and needed correcting. That’s what I’m taking offense to. * plus something means correction. But I did not need correction. Your opinion that it’s most opinions is fine but you put it in wrong context.

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@solid gate it’s something I do quite commonly and without ill intent. Wasn’t trying to spark an argument.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Well whatever. I’m going to go. Got things to do.

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@pure sleet brainpop user.

leaden remnant Jul 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Cranberry wagon when?

hushed shadow Jul 16, 2020, 5:15 PM

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No one knows

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I need 3 days worth of advert gold to get is5 :). I’ve been saving up a while and am now close to getting 1

I know it may not be the best tank, but I haven’t got a tier 8 premium or Russian heavy so it will be interesting to own 1, it’s also very cheap compared to the other premiums.

viral lodge Jul 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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IS-5 is a great F2P tank.

drifting moon Jul 16, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I’ve watched 150 videos to get enough gold, then realized that u need supply level at level X, I’m at level IX, bout 70% there

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 7:45 PM

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U need clan supply at tier X and personal supply at tier X

drifting moon Jul 16, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I have clan supply, but not personal

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Oops, got to flex now 💪. Look at them person access level 10 biceps bro

ebon parrot Jul 16, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I got my IS5 a while back and it's a fun tank

jade nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I think this is evidence that the IS7s bad gun is what's holding it back

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Poor damage goes back all the way to 6.0, I think the improved hp only increased survivability but not really the tank's effectiveness

low elk Jul 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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or the ammorack is damaged so often it cant do damage at all

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Wz 113G FT

ebon parrot Jul 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I agree

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I have clan supply, but not personal
@drifting moon you need both clan supply level X and personal supply level X

jade nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@low elk Also that. But I think it's the gun. Why? Because it sits in a position between full big gun like E100 and average big gun like IS4/Maus and suffers from both of their weaknesses without the beneifts. It's alpha is only +40 more than 122mm yet it has a whole 2 seconds extra reload while still having the dispersion of an E100.

lyric copper Jul 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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do you want the T-62A or IS-4

jade nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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You can't really out poke most 122mm because they have a better reload, and accuracy you can't peak a boom like an E100 because you lack the alpha. And you can't frontline like a Maus because your armor sucks for corner fighting.
Oh and your prammo pen is disgraceful.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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should i go for lttb or kv3, which is better
@solid gate get LTTB for the memes

thick trout Jul 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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IS7s gun is only really made for competing with meds, there it's prammo pen and mediocre alpha seem much better. It's hard in this heavy meta to get it to work but on flanks it is pretty effective, it's armour becomes a lot more reliable against meds too.

I tend to find that I trade with meds trying to force then back for the first part of the game usually hulldown and then later I try and single out tanks I can rush. It definitely isn't a typical heavy but it works well as a med if you can handle the traverse

kindred bone Jul 16, 2020, 9:07 PM

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guys grille got rate of fire update, is it worth it ? i have already Wt and i love it, should i go for Grille ?

low elk Jul 16, 2020, 9:08 PM

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its not got the same playstyle as the waffle
you need to change the playstyle to a paper med with a massive gun

kindred bone Jul 16, 2020, 9:09 PM

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another question please, amx cdc os it really like a bad tier 8 version of dracula ?

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 9:45 PM

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It’s worse tier for tier

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It's still good
It's actually balanced

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I find it quite enjoyable. It’s a decent tank but it’s not Drac-level good tier for tier

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Absolutely, not sure how much you care about stats but t10 numbers like that should really be improved. You only have 17 battles so it won’t be too hard.

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I’m gonna ask do you have it fully trained and fully equipped

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yikes

solid gate Jul 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yeah don’t buy it back

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Because that’s both a really infective way of getting decent stats on a tank and is literal torture

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yea you should really gold the crews and have full equipment before you play t10s

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Np

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Obj 140, Obj 263, Obj 268, Obj 252u

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Obj 704

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Oh yeah

prisma violet Jul 16, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Hey, anyone think about buff vk 45 of tier 8 or t 28, also tier 8?

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Also tier 8?

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Vk 45.02 is tier 9 and Vk 45.03 is tier 7

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@prisma violet

gentle wasp Jul 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Vk 45.02 A is a tier 8

keen escarp Jul 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Wait so what's the tier 7 vk thats prem

tulip sail Jul 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Vk45.03

thick trout Jul 16, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Slightly late but I don't gold the crews of my tier 10s otherwise I find I don't have that many reasons to play them and I never get more than 20 or so games in them. With the crew I have a definite reason to get used to playing it rather than letting it sit there

atomic rapids Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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How long does it take when you submit a restoration ticket to get the premium tank back?

tulip sail Jul 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Anywhere from a few hours to a few days

sharp spindle Jul 17, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I just recently got the ISU-152, and I already have all the guns from the SU-152 on it, but the T8 gun isn't adequate. Should I go for the BL-9S or all the way for the BL-10?

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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How come I don’t have kravagon in garage?

sharp spindle Jul 17, 2020, 1:03 AM

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It's not released yet.

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Oop the second one was right vk 45.03

copper swan Jul 17, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Get the BL 10 gun
I woud have free xped all the modules before playing a single battle for new tanks
if not enough free xp, don't play@sharp spindle

sharp spindle Jul 17, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Alright, I'll just grind out free xp in my T34 then.

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@sharp spindle ok clap clap!🤣 👍

copper swan Jul 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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most stock tanks are basically being a burden to a team

sharp spindle Jul 17, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Yeah. The 3 first guns on the ISU are garbage.

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:46 AM

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what is your favorite vehicle to use in-game

tulip sail Jul 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Rev or some other m4 variant depending on the day

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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mine would be the SU-152, I have the ISU but the derp gun just isn't that good and I don't want to wait for 80k xp on a tank I don't want to play.

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It varies between leopard 1 and T49

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I want to get the T49, I might start on the line.

tulip sail Jul 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Ofc you filthy leo main @solid gate

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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@tulip sail I will show you a screenshot of my 56 M aces on it watch me

tulip sail Jul 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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That doesn't change the truth

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Your right but that does not matter

cold relic Jul 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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go for the t49 i have the t92e1

tulip sail Jul 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I'm still right tho

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Do not care

cold relic Jul 17, 2020, 2:54 AM

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can i have a bonus code devs

tacit kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:10 AM

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does the pershing have any strengths at all?

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it looks like a slower and longer aiming panther, 4.1 aim time, panther 8.8 is 2.7 aim time

kind bluff Jul 17, 2020, 3:20 AM

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nop the thing is hot garbage in every way

orchid nymph Jul 17, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@cold relic no

cold relic Jul 17, 2020, 3:40 AM

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y

kind bluff Jul 17, 2020, 3:42 AM

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y shud you get one

cold relic Jul 17, 2020, 3:43 AM

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it is a good tank if u play it right

orchid nymph Jul 17, 2020, 3:43 AM

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It's just not good. Panther 2 is probably better in Abt every way

cold relic Jul 17, 2020, 3:44 AM

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no i have rekt a panther and panther 2 in my t49

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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@solid gate Wz 113. Covenanter. sT I and M4A1 Rev. Maybe The Lorraine And Progetto and The Tier 6 I have

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 4:03 AM

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That's a uh, a lot of favorites.

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Also The Fv201 and T 34 1. Maybe The T 43 and E25 And T 34 85 Rudy.

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And yeah i have a lot to choose from in a day.

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@solid gate Just Ferdi

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Or Su 101 too

valid lodge Jul 17, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Favorites were Hetzer,Angry Connor, Isu 152, K-91, French lights

limber sonnet Jul 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Will they put an auto loader on thé foch and the amx ac 48?

thorn glacier Jul 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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The t9 foch doesn't need an autoloader the firerate is nice

But the tier 10 stock needs 640 alpha

limber sonnet Jul 17, 2020, 7:31 AM

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IT will be better because there is already the tortoise and the su122 54 which have same alpha and better DPM

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Also to have a new playstyle in the game

fast compass Jul 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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It is the second best performing td in tier 9. Fixing something that is not broken surely helped the tier 10 meta back in September last year

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Su122 54 may be the king of dpm tanks but it is hard to apply your dpm when you are paper. Jagdtiger has lower dpm but actually has armour, but then again it is the only tank performing better than foch

nocturne tiger Jul 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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hey is the maus line good

tiny plume Jul 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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no, leopard is better

last whale Jul 17, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Good but slow

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If you want good armor then yes

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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cent 5 is the next OP premium 😩

limber sonnet Jul 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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When will be Kranvagn’s line coming?

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Never

tiny plume Jul 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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no

molten sail Jul 17, 2020, 10:55 AM

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I would buy the elc even 90

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@solid gate no

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@limber sonnet still on testing

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@solid gate 😒 never?

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Never

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

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You scare to that tank?

glass crypt Jul 17, 2020, 1:03 PM

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ayo which gun for the arl? i free exp'ed the turret, the next gun and the engine, wondering if the 90mm or the 105 is better

hushed shadow Jul 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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90mm. The 105 used to be fun but it got a bit nerfed and it’s not as good now. The 90mm was always the main gun though

glass crypt Jul 17, 2020, 1:20 PM

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alright thanks

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 1:25 PM

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i like wz121

shrewd fog Jul 17, 2020, 1:30 PM

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yeah bcoz 120mm arnament .

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 2:37 PM

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@solid gate what tank are you on for Wz 121 I am on T 34 2.

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I am on wz121

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T34 2 is very fun @keen escarp

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Oh you have Wz 121 nice

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Yes

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For you t34 2 is good ?

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Yeah i can block some shots

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400 alpha and speed like 51km or 55km reload is long 14.3 is my reload and i dont have max crew or the gun rammer

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Is no one seeing new chat #733695097606242335

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Why does the obj268 cost 350k of xp?

fervent pewter Jul 17, 2020, 3:41 PM

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grille is really good now wth

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 3:49 PM

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My favorite tank is dracula but I’m think it need more health

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📎 P_20200531_152552.jpg

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Lul

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6k dmg and 1 maestry?

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Ye

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Where is the AS?

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Today 6900 and as

hushed shadow Jul 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Damage isn’t what gives you the Ace. It’s the XP. He just didn’t get enough XP for an Ace

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Yes

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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It would have been extremely close to an ace but not quite, 1483 is high but definitely not guaranteed especially on a high skill ceiling med like that

tiny plume Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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For xp you need damage so yes

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Not necessarily

kind bluff Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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ur a med so spot and assists count more

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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For XP you need to be effective, whether that's cap points, spotting damage, tracking tanks, bounced damage (idk about this for sure) or actual damage

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Why is everyone saying the AMX30B is 17,500 gold? It’s 20k

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@stiff swift

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solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Wtf 17k t10?

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Well that’s messed up

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gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Apparently the x5 certs (I bet they are tank-specific) are worth 2.5k

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Oh, you pinpointed it. Why different offers? Beats me. I’d be 100% more willing without them. They are tank specific

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Of course they are. That’s a good question.

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I already own the 30b so idk if that is part of it

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Interesting. I don’t have it, I’ll check which offer I get later.

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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People in my clan all seem to have 17.5k, how many battles does your account have @stiff swift ?

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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The Wz 113 costs that and I have it unless your new cause there must be some problem. @solid gate

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:49 PM

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They did NA dirty by making AMX 30 cost 20k gold @stiff swift

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I have about 8.5k battles. Shouldn’t have anything to do with that right?

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I think you’re right carta_808... Meadsy said 17.5 and he’s EU

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Has nothing to to with the amount of battles you have or win rate or anything like that . WG just decided they don’t like NA today @stiff swift

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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You get the 30 x5 xp certificates which can be a hell of a lot of free xp so it's still a good deal

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:52 PM

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xp is absolutely useless for premiums, collectors etc.

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Id rather have them take it away and make the deal cheaper @thick trout

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Well... I made a funny little blurb in #585464006936887306 we’ll see what is said. Exactly! I can get free xp all I want if I spend more for gold. x5 is only good for tech tree tanks

thick trout Jul 17, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@quick thicket Put on free XP boosters and that's probably 50 or 60k free XP easily 🤷‍♀️ It's a matter of opinion really, some on EU would prefer the x5s and some on NA would prefer it cheaper 🤷‍♀️

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Ok you get xp but for what? There’s no use for it @thick trout

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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It’s free xp

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:57 PM

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IF you convert it

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:58 PM

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No, if you use the x5 and free xp boosters you will get a good haul of free xp

quick thicket Jul 17, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Still would rather have the tank cheaper than some free xp

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Fair enough

sly oar Jul 17, 2020, 5:02 PM

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hey, was wondering if i could get some answers from yall, how do u guys normally play the foch 155? I normally push along meds or try flanking aggresive spots and i normally do around 2k-sub 4k but sometimes my kind of playstyle feels very mediocre, and at some maps such as mayan ruins or port bay where push is oriented to mediums side i really do lack. I rly want some other views that'll help me become more flexible in it, thx

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yeah people dont like the over pricing

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Literally every tier 10 is 20k Gold Or 22.5 k Gold Which is nearly 80 dollars in cash

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 5:23 PM

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That’s more than fair to instantly jump to the highest tier

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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And the tier 9 like the amx 30 1er prot is 10k and when its the Lorraine and Amx 30 1er prot it is 15k gold which is only about 54 dollars

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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So you want them to be cheaper so even more new players can jump immediately into t10?

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I am not saying i want to make it cheaper i just said cause people were saying Amx 30 B was costy

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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It’s really not

keen escarp Jul 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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well thats what the people said

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I am so pissed but i got some wins from it these ppl were rushing last night

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Like 2 E100s Rushed and T26E4 so it must be a new person who got it when the deal from the July 4th sale

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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T26e4 and e100s in the same battle? That’s rare my friend

hushed shadow Jul 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Can happen if the T26E4 fail toons

stiff swift Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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^^^

pale crow Jul 17, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I know about the back and forth with the 183, but seriously. It needs some help.

📎 Screenshot_20200717-155310.png

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Nah. You have the whole line to warn you off, if you still grind it then that is your problem

hushed shadow Jul 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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There will always be a tank at the bottom. Rn it’s the 183. Wouldn’t mind that continuing really. A buff would just make it a bigger nuisance

pastel drum Jul 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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leave the damn 183 in the mud. Let it be forgotten

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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^^^ 183 fills the role of a bottom of the charts tank quite well

elder wharf Jul 17, 2020, 8:02 PM

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is amx30b worth or nah?

solid gate Jul 17, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Depends

pastel drum Jul 17, 2020, 8:02 PM

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just get the leo 1 if you got the skills.

elder wharf Jul 17, 2020, 8:03 PM

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is it just basically a cdc but t10

gentle wasp Jul 17, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Not really

elder wharf Jul 17, 2020, 8:03 PM

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so its a leo? but french?

pastel drum Jul 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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it has turret armor but also has the worst medium gun in tier 10

elder wharf Jul 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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o alright

pliant lodge Jul 17, 2020, 8:04 PM

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And huge commandser hatch

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Meaning you need to constantly move to avoid getting hit there. It's good for spotting tho :v

elder wharf Jul 17, 2020, 8:07 PM

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yeah i looked at it on blitzhanger, i think ill pass this time

lyric oriole Jul 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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The commanders hatch is actually hard to hit even though it's big, but the tank pretty much only has speed and that's it so yeah, definitely pass

rustic gate Jul 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Is luchs an ok tank?

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I've been restoring my old tanks :)

lyric oriole Jul 17, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Dunno, I'll have to check it's stats give me a sec

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It's pretty bad, mediocre traverse, terrible clip damage with its reload and poor penetration

rustic gate Jul 17, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Oki, thank you :)

rustic gate Jul 17, 2020, 11:25 PM

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What about t-46? Worth restoring?

boreal harbor Jul 17, 2020, 11:34 PM

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They should bring the blade camo back for the vk 90

lyric oriole Jul 17, 2020, 11:53 PM

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T-46 is mediocre, useable but nothing special

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Yeah, there is a spark system so you get it after a specific amount.

You get other things at about the same value

sly oar Jul 18, 2020, 12:16 AM

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is anyone gonna respond to my foch question 👀

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Don’t know much about it but it seems like you are playing it right. Bully meds and flank heavies

sly oar Jul 18, 2020, 2:23 AM

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thx bout that, although i still suck at those maps i mentioned earlier

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:37 AM

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How to play Amx 13 90 guys, im like 1.4m creds away from unlocking it

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Clip and dip. Thing gets bullied by everything so don’t get hit. Trading might seem like a good idea but considering you aren’t that fast and have paper armor it’s usually a bad choice

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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So i should be an ambusher, providing damage and alternate between positions, like Revy or something else besides that

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Yes. Relocate often and dump the clip into distracted reds

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Then at the end of the battle i can charge in and flank the remaining opponents

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Yes

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:41 AM

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That will be difficult in urban maps like himmelsdorf or new bay,

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Indeed

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:43 AM

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So the 13 90 is like a mobile tank destroyer, with the almost high alpha damage of a TD in a single drum but with average pen or whatever

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:44 AM

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That’s a decent way of thinking of it. Just spot a bit more instead of camping, and try not to poke out and trade since the interclip isn’t great

fluid sand Jul 18, 2020, 2:44 AM

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K thanks

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:45 AM

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No problem

keen escarp Jul 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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tank do you like support ppls opinion? Or like recommend what tank? Just Askin.

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Not sure what you’re asking, I just try to help where I can.

ocean maple Jul 18, 2020, 4:13 AM

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@keen escarp Kv4

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 5:22 AM

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How.much is sheridan's legendary camo?

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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@solid gate 5500

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Ok thx

gentle wasp Jul 18, 2020, 5:23 AM

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np

keen escarp Jul 18, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@stiff swift no not together in separate battles

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Improve the armor M103

keen escarp Jul 18, 2020, 5:52 AM

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@gentle wasp ok i wanted to know if you basically help ppl with questions and give them recommendations.

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@ocean maple K v 4 and K v 5

alpine notch Jul 18, 2020, 6:40 AM

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@solid gate Its fine as it is (?)

meager sierra Jul 18, 2020, 6:53 AM

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How much is the Bat Chat musketeer camo??

solid rain Jul 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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2550 iirc , and like a lot for that super ex attachment for 2 fire extinguishers and a jerry can

vernal gale Jul 18, 2020, 9:14 AM

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BUFF D-25T in IS-3 he NERF IN IO-3

solid rain Jul 18, 2020, 9:15 AM

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ok this is hilarious , wg is so incompetent that when you use your acc on blitz thats just downloaded on pc it uses mobile controls

vernal gale Jul 18, 2020, 9:16 AM

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no me use WASD

sterile perch Jul 18, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Maybe your computer was in tablet mode? Idk

vernal gale Jul 18, 2020, 9:22 AM

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no

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he has normal control

rapid orchid Jul 18, 2020, 10:20 AM

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BUFF D-25T in IS-3 he NERF IN IO-3
@vernal gale wha? IO 3?

vernal gale Jul 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

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IS-3

toxic lantern Jul 18, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Will the Emil l and Emil ll be replacing the P44 and the Standard B?

haughty forge Jul 18, 2020, 11:19 AM

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they are different tank types so no

toxic lantern Jul 18, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Ok

fluid parrot Jul 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Any tips on using Leopard Proto?

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Tier 9

zealous anchor Jul 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Try not to brawl, use mobility to use usually inconvenient pathways to flank enemy and get their sides...making use of teammate HP. When spotted and unconfident you can reset camo and move

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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is kv2 getting removed?

hushed shadow Jul 18, 2020, 12:24 PM

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No

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Yea I hope, not, anyways, I have the kv2 so I don’t have to worry about it

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I think leopard vk 16.01 is getting removed
In the German tech tree tier V

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Don’t remove the KV-2 please, it’s always nice to have some free damage to farm if I had to casually play T6 or 7

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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yo guys, what do you recommend: save for when vk 90 becomes 20k gold OR buy the amx 30 B

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Kv 2 is nice, but what about the SU-152, ISU 152, obj. 704, WT auf PZ. IV, or the grille, or e-100 jg Pz.
So much ~~~

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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can u instakill with all the other tanks? i think not

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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DERP GUNS, BANNED, lol, I wish jk jk
lol, the game would die

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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yes

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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I have very little interest in derp guns.

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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btw should i save up for vk 90 or just go amx 30B

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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@hollow belfry, what makes you say ur not interested in ONE-SHOTING other tank?

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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They are completely different tanks, depends on the player @north bloom

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@north bloom, if there’s a vk coming up, you know you should pick the amx 30 b

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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i like my m4 rev and vk 45 B

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thats why im hesitant

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and how frequent does amx 30b,amx 30 1er pop up in the store

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@tawny sky I like consistent and accurate guns that don’t tremendously punish you every time rng messes up. In other words, I indeed have little interest in one-shotting tanks. I’d rather have a good game with a consistent gun than derping 2 games out of 10 and getting mediocre/bad performance rest of the time

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@hollow belfry too bad,accuracy gets bonked the heavier the gun is.

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@hollow belfry, and that’s why the one and only ISU-152 that DOESNT have a derp gun, and has decent/good accuracy, fits you! 😉
The one that does 640 damage with pen of 286

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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The ISU’s accuracy isn’t even good

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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@hollow belfry, than why do you like the kv-2 that doesn’t even shoot at the god dam tank

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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The only things the ISU has are pen, alpha and dpm. All the rest is either bad or mediocre. It has long aim time, 0,25/0,25 dispersion factors which will mess up the somewhat ok dispersion when fully aimed.

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I don’t like the KV-2, not gonna ever play it. Playing a tank that literally has nothing but the alpha? no thanks, I’m not masochist.

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Then which do you like? Heavies? Mediums? Lights?

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Heavies

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I like mediums/heaviums in general, eventually some TD’s allowing for an aggressive playstyle.

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I like heavies too

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Your saying u don’t like the e100? @hollow belfry

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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cant decide between vk90 and amx30😩

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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@north bloom, don’t get vk, get amx

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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and why ?

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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@north bloom AMX is basically a faster STB-1 with less armor and dpm, I’d rather get the tech tree tank. VK 90.01 P is pretty balanced

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:14 PM

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@north bloom, cause like it said in the description, (very light armor), yea, they meant no armor, and the tank has very bad gun depression, and RNG as well, very poor viewports, with crappy mobilization. That’s why you should get it. 🙂

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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the gun depression is 10 deg when looking at the sides like E50

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Or you could get the vk which WOT has nothing to sell, so they keep selling vks over and over again

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Your choice 😉

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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It also has the highest pen amongst heavies, along with pretty decent armor once you hide the lower plate

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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and that lower plate tiny

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why didnt the vk 90 replace the fat vk 72 😔. Looks like a cooler vk 45 B

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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@hollow belfry, umm you meant NO amor
🧐

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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« VK 90.01 P has no armor ». Didn’t hear such a good joke in a long time

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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"Very bad gun depression" yes from the front only

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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@hollow belfry, oh I though you were talkin about amx, nvm

spark basin Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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vk 90 gave me a scare today because i literally couldnt pen anywhere except the lower plate with prammo in a tier 9 tank

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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vk 90 it is

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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@spark basin, I guess whatever tank you were using only had a pen of 1

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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plus there is next time for amx 30 cough auction cough

spark basin Jul 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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263 apcr pen and it still wasn't enough so yeah vk 90's armor is pretty good

tawny sky Jul 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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WOT should remove the stock gun in the E-100 section? Why did I leave a question mark

hollow belfry Jul 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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The VK 90.01 P has around 245-250mm of armor on the lower plate, if he was angling then it would indeed be thicker

north bloom Jul 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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i dont get why its "balanced"

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that armor looks busted af

marsh quarry Jul 18, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Guys is it worth it to sell is3 and move to kv 4 tech tree👍

strange thicket Jul 18, 2020, 2:25 PM

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don't sell your tanks
you will not sell them for full price

latent sigil Jul 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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this is one of the dumbest things I've seen 🤦🏾‍♂️

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that gun upgrade icon ^

tulip sail Jul 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Hopefully never

solid gate Jul 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Yup

sacred robin Jul 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Artillery on blitz?? Thats never happening