How about we talk the ARL-44 ?
i dunno, i'm more of a turret armor guy
#vehicles-discussion
lunar lintel
wet fjord
@lunar lintel then the T34 should suit you well i suppose
solid gate
The stock turret is like a coffin on tracks
tulip edge
You will like the kranvagn..
lunar lintel
is the upper plate on that tank good aswell?
tulip edge
The T34 has no hull armour at all. Its all about hiding the hull on that tank.
wet fjord
But the turret is impenetrable
Wiggle it to prevent cupola snipe
tulip edge
The T29 can bounce low caliber guns off the upper plate though
lunar lintel
sorry i meant "i'm more of a turret armor with good enough upper plate hull armor to deflect shots guy"
and also front turreted tank
wet fjord
Then play the M6A2E1 EXP. Both the turret and hull front is impenetrable
However side and turret cheeks are weak, but i suppose you can wiggle your turret ?
strange thicket
EXP has meme cheeks on both
although it is quite good in mid and long range
lunar lintel
i better start watching ads on my CP
also i think M6A2E1 EXp is bad for sidescraping because there's a small gap on the spaced side armor
tulip edge
If we went more basic, just go German.
Tiger II, E75, / E100/Maus - though turret angling required
strange thicket
you don't angle your turret on tiger 2 or e75
it makes it even weak
tulip edge
I was talking about the e100/maus
wet fjord
Angle the turret expose the side, and facing it will make it flat. You will be penned both way
strange thicket
i better start watching ads on my CP
also i think M6A2E1 EXp is bad for sidescraping because there's a small gap on the spaced side armor
@lunar lintel you don't sidescrape in the EXP or any tank with bad side armor
hollow belfry
Which is better Kv4 or Is 3
@keen escarp IS-3 is way better
lunar lintel
you can sidescrape with sheridan too
you can trick enemies into hitting your spaced armor
wet fjord
Grille getting a dpm buff to 10,5 secs reload ( if i remember correctly ) next update, so should i run Gun Rammer + 2 Chocolates for <10s reload or Calibrated Shell for higher penetration ?
hollow belfry
Sheridan is literally wrapped in spaced armor, ofc you can to some extent sidescrape
Grille’s pen is low but it has good enough accuracy when fully aimed, the pen shouldn’t really be an issue. At least it isn’t for me
wet fjord
Idk if it only me or not but my Grille really like to miss fully aimed shot and hitting snapshot at extreme range
solid gate
The sheridan armor has its limits though the spaced armor does not eat shots like a void as youd think
hollow belfry
always fully aim with your Grille unless you are at close range, the dispersion factors on the move/when rotating are literally worse than superheavies
lunar lintel
the only problem with sheridan sidescraping is that high caliber tanks could just HE your side armor probably causing 200-500 damage
wet fjord
Honestly i was staying on the ridge in Rockfield, shot at the lower plate of a Jageroo at 400 meters and somehow the shell went to the upper plate instead
lunar lintel
is T95 better than T110E3?
strange thicket
no
solid gate
that made me laugh
wet fjord
what make you laugh though ?
strange thicket
the fact that someone might think t95 is better than the e3
hollow belfry
The real drawback of the T110E3 is the tanks you are forced to play before
lunar lintel
the T95's only weakness is the cupola (i think)
T110E3 has penetrable lower plate
(i'm not sure i'm just here playing with my 183)
calm drumBOT
AVietNameseGuy#1947 has been warned.
wet fjord
T95 also have penetrable lower plate
solid gate
T95 has 2-3 frontal weaknesses and becomes clear in the front from even most gold rounds
wet fjord
Only the gun manlet is impenetrable
strange thicket
the T95's only weakness is the cupola (i think)
T110E3 has penetrable lower plate
@lunar lintel t95 has a lower plate
and a weak roof against tall tanks
and is incredibly very slow to make use of that armor anyway
lunar lintel
yeah it's like a TOG II speed
wet fjord
it is even slower
lunar lintel
if i have the engine accelerator equipment and some oily oily provisions how much average speed will it have now?
and 100% crew
strange thicket
The real drawback of the T110E3 is the tanks you are forced to play before
@hollow belfry the tier 8 , 9 are the bad thing in that line honestly
the tier 7 and 6 are pretty good
solid gate
@lunar lintel more tolerable but not a slight difference
wet fjord
the T28 is a nightmare to play
Horrible armor model and almost the same speed
lunar lintel
it has 18 average speed and 20 top speed
wet fjord
Still, you will be penned left and right. And you will be left behind by your teammates. Many times
civic terrace
Tips for the Su100 m1
haughty forge
yolo and die
lunar lintel
don't listen to him
don't yolo and don't die
civic terrace
@haughty forge thanks😂
solid gate
Lol
lunar lintel
is it possible to penetrate FV215b's front turret armor?
hushed shadow
You can pen the hatch on the top but it’s not a very easy target
lunar lintel
definitely researching that
haughty forge
i recommend not to do that
lunar lintel
no
sweet peak
ngl its a really good tank
solid gate
Im going to select T34 KV1 slow i hate KV1 so meh selecc T34
Finally after thinking 2 hoirs
I selecc t34 :()
When i use KV-1 i gain not many...credit
BUT...when i use T34 i gain soo many credit
So i decided to (SELL) kv-1 and buy T34
sweet peak
i was there once too
but right now i dont really remember how it felt
solid gate
So . . . Meh going to sell KV-1 biye
rapid orchid
@solid gate good choice
solid gate
I really want to pass the KV-1
@solid gate you only want buy KV-2 right ? Me too !
Nah the KV-1S
Should I keep tier V ? I think shouldn't because of low skill cap of that tier, instead I keep tier VI+
solid gate
I think some tier V that can deal with tier VI, these're S35 CA, Churchill I, SU-85, StuG III G, BDR G1 B
But because of low skill cap I don't want to play
rapid orchid
Buff Tiger II reload
gentle wasp
No
rapid orchid
Why?
gentle wasp
The Tiger II is fine
gentle wasp
Just looks like you failing to do anything. Sadly, one bad game by you doesn’t mean anything.
rapid orchid
3 times i won but i did literally nothing
All kills stealed by British heavies or some fast reloading mts
gentle wasp
Maybe you should do something
rapid orchid
Hmm
Yolos isn't the best choice
hollow belfry
That’s a player issue. The Tiger II is already good enough, and tons of people complain about the tank’s strength.
acoustic pollen
valid lodge
Kinda seems like you did low dmg because your team slaughtered the enemy. Your team lost 1 tank.
viral lodge
they were just playing passive and their team was being aggressive so they didn’t get to farm any damage, it’s them not the tank lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tall jacinth
Check out the t6 jg's dpm, 2800 with top gun, it's insane
haughty forge
yeah it is
keen escarp
Oop
solid gate
I'm kind of new to the Game(actually i'm in tier v). Would You invest in EU tanks?
gentle wasp
I didn’t think the line was great from t5-7 but 8-10 are among the best in the game. With little armor and the quirky autoreloader, it takes a bit of finesse to play well but it is well worth it.
solid gate
Thanks. The thing is, i want to play with axis faction vehicles(German, japanese and italian) but i don't know if ir is a good idea xd
gentle wasp
Lol. Japanese vehicles are a tough grind so I would hold off on that for a bit.
acoustic pollen
japanese were fighting more in the air and sea than on land, maybe thats why their tanks aren't great, and i think the italian tanks that are good are just german tanks tweaked and never made production (at least the anno that we all got was)
gentle wasp
Right, Japan was fighting in bad terrain for tanks and against opposition that didn’t have much in terms of tanks or anti-tank guns
keen escarp
Guys I have a question. What did you do celebrate getting your first Tier 10
gentle wasp
I went out and played like garbage in it 🥳
fervent sand
Japan did not have a lot of materials, so they had to be very wise in what they used their materials on. To them (knowing jungle warfare and the ware it had on the tanks) decided that ships and aircraft where more important. The tanks that where made where made with the fewest materials possible (while in their eyes still being effective).
solid gate
Foch 155 vs Obj 268, wich is better?
ocean maple
joe mama
solid gate
The is-2sh looks like someone sat on the turret. Thank you for your time 🙂
There a little bike at the back if the transmission breaks
When* not if
tulip sail
@fervent sand they also didn't think they were all that necessary from looking at their most likely enemies such as china who had none of their own save for a few imported models
tender nacelle
How do you play the 7/1
gentle wasp
Hull down and HESH
restive ravine
Foch tier 9 is a complete joke compare to amx ac 48 tier 8
fervent sand
@tulip sail that is very true
robust crescent
Jpanther II or Ferdinand?
covert hawk
Jpanther II
robust crescent
Hmm okay
covert hawk
up to you tho, from what i’ve seen the jpanther has good speed and a good gun
gentle wasp
JP
robust crescent
Stats say Ferdinand has good front armor but I thought it was easy to pen when I saw it
gentle wasp
It is good on paper but riddled with weak spots. JP has insane armor if you can get it hull down
robust crescent
Okay jpanther it is, also I like the jpanther look better so win win
gentle wasp
Nice, enjoy it
covert hawk
have fun
robust crescent
Thanks
hollow moth
In love with KV-220 T even if I rarely play with it
vestal nacelle
is the is7 worth it considering i already have the is4?
covert hawk
the ammo rack spot isn’t nice
tight raven
How many people play the Chi-To cause since it is my only tier 6 tank right now (also fully upgraded), I find it lacking damage because sometimes it does 130-180 damage but then again it has a 6 sec reload and it has about the same speed as a fully upgraded Tiger 1
orchid nymph
It's not very good
robust crescent
I had the chi-to, it’s okay. It makes a good amount of credits but no armor. Not very much damage
orchid nymph
The only good tank in the line is the stb1.
robust crescent
Yeah pretty much
tight raven
I got destroyed by a leopard because of its armor but the credit amount is decent, 10k+ per win
robust crescent
Yeah Leo can do over 300 dmg with a full clip if you aren’t carful
gentle wasp
It got nerfed to 200 clip and the pen sucks
tight raven
most tanks around its tier can't outrun the leopard
robust crescent
Wait when?
gentle wasp
A couple updates ago
robust crescent
I feel bad, atleast you could give it a little more pen
It was already hard for me to use it when it had 300 dmg
tight raven
If Leopard gets more pen then KV-1 is useless except for its gun
robust crescent
Yeah but Leo has a hard time penning meds too
low elk
KV1 is supposed to be just a gun
its a F30 gun
robust crescent
So if they just increase it a little bit but not enough to pen heavies from the front
tight raven
T1 heavy is more forgiving then KV-1 cause KV-1 is slow and is easier to pen, some tier 4s can pen KV-1's side easier than T1's
robust crescent
I find kv-1 fun to play because if you angle it it’s almost impossible to pen
tight raven
true but people gonna rush you more than T1 because KV-1 has 10 sec reload
robust crescent
Yeah but I don’t find that happening that often, you just have to be with your team
orchid nymph
Tier 5 isn't worth playing anymore
tight raven
I died to a 100hp Leopard I was 1v1 against with KV-1 but KV-1 was to slow to angle but my KV-1 also had less than 100hp
low elk
tier 6 is filled with SU100Y, KV2, and ARLs
tier 5 is full of leopard, T1 heavies, and BDRs
tier 1-4 is just bad
why play low tiers?
robust crescent
You can’t angle in a 1v1 unless it’s across the map
You would just have to wiggle and hope to get bounces
tight raven
I meant turn my tank and gun but since I was on mobile I couldn't shoot fast enough
robust crescent
Oh, it’s easier to turn your turret and chassis at the same time
Makes the gun get to the target faster
tight raven
The only reason I lost cause people mobile players take a few more milliseconds to do stuff like swap ammo and fire and repair
robust crescent
Yeah swapping to the right ammo is hard sometimes but if you learn the enemy tanks armor then it becomes easier, you will know which ammo to use
tight raven
The only problem for me on PC is to global chat and aim unzoomed
viral lodge
Hey non existing if you are new do not start with the japanese med line
tight raven
im not new, I just keep losing accounts
viral lodge
I mean do you have FXP? I would not advise playing the STB line without a good stockpile of FXP
robust crescent
That takes time to use unzoomed but I never used it on pc
tight raven
I was going for the TDs
viral lodge
More forgiving line I think but still ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle wasp
Not much better
robust crescent
Nice, I’m going for German td tanks
viral lodge
The best TDs to go for as far as easier lines are the JgE100 and Obj 268 (Not talking T10 comp but more ease of going up the line)
tight raven
The only problem with new accounts is that you don't have your stockpile of credit boosters and your credit making tank and your better tanks
robust crescent
Lol I don’t have those but my account is the same I’ve always been using
If I need credits I usually will buy chaffee because it has a good credit coefficient
tight raven
I have a Tiger 2 and some Tier 6s on another account, but the problem is that its on mobile and I don't have a facebook account for it
viral lodge
You dont need to make a new account swapping from mobile to PC blitz, and why dont you just link the account to WG
tight raven
oh ok
viral lodge
I play both mobile and PC ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just get on the mobile account, link it to WG, and use that log in on PC.
robust crescent
Which do you find easier?
viral lodge
Im playing PC more but thats more ease of access for discord and music, I prefer mobile movement and PC shooting and autoaim.
gentle wasp
Oh so playing on PC isn’t OP? Good to know...
tight raven
I rather play PC cause it is easier to aim when sniping and easier to change ammo and repair
robust crescent
I would think pc would give better movement
viral lodge
I dont find it OP, there some things that PC does better and some tablet/good phone players do better. and no, mobile better movement
gentle wasp
The movement depends on what you’re used to really.
@viral lodge yea I am just tired of idiots who complain about PC players having some huge advantage
viral lodge
PC only has 8 directional inputs while mobile has very fine controls for movement. and ya agree tiger
robust crescent
8?
viral lodge
w, wd, d, sd, s, sa, a, aw
robust crescent
Oh lol you mean combining wasd to turn while moving forward and backwards
gentle wasp
That sounds like a device issue
viral lodge
Mobile has the ability to go inbetween as such better control, and ^ (generally speaking tho PCs tend to be stronger than mobile devices so thats that)
robust crescent
I would probably prefer pc controls actaully
tight raven
Mobile has the advantage of speed control
robust crescent
I work very well with the W, A, S, and D keys
viral lodge
Each platform has their own pros and cons, the advantage you get is very small over the other platform, a noob on PC is the same as a noob on mobile. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle wasp
Most likely
viral lodge
Probably is, I feel a difference graphically since my tablet is decently old while my PC is pretty new.
acoustic pollen
pc you can get pinpoint accuracy /disscussion
low elk
wrong
aim isnt different on platforms
just depends on the player
acoustic pollen
you're telling me touch screen can be just as accurate as a mouse
low elk
yep
gentle wasp
Uh yea
viral lodge
Yup
low elk
just aim noob
i could yank some of the best players on mobile and force them to play PC and they'd play like they just broke all their bones in their hands
acoustic pollen
maybe some people could do it.....all i know is i could never pull off a shot like this on a touch screen
gentle wasp
It’s just you
next solstice
just bought the ISU 152.
I can make better fine adjustments on touch screen. On PC, I can adjust on a wider range but it'll more "jerky"
ember arrow
is there any reason to get obj140 other than the slightly higher max speed? t62 seems to have better stats in almost everything
next solstice
The turret armor functions more or less the same
Obj 140 has AP rounds which has better normalization
Slightly lower profile and a better hull as well.
Guns are more or less the same aside from the shell variety.
safe ravine
Can we have autoreloader for smasher? A bit more extra gun deppression would also be appreciated.
next solstice
I will kill you
tribal cave
pc is absolutely superior to touch screen in terms of aiming
safe ravine
@tribal cave couldn't argue with that.
Makes my 152mm handling feels like a sniper compared to touch screen control
acoustic pollen
right
gentle wasp
@next solstice 140 turret is worse in exchange for more hull armor and less gun depression
covert hawk
is the Maus worth the grind ?
viral lodge
Yes
next solstice
@gentle wasp yeah that’s what I basically said
covert hawk
alright thanks
gentle wasp
@next solstice you said the turret was that same
next solstice
No I said it functions more or less the same.
gentle wasp
Which is still incorrect
next solstice
They bounce shots. What else do you want to know about how they function except that they bounce shots.
gentle wasp
Except one bounces shots much more reliably
viral lodge
I mean technically the 4202 turret does bounce shots but the chance of doing so is less
next solstice
There’s barely any difference in reliability.
gentle wasp
Lol
strange oyster
Are the upcoming swedish tanks going to branch out from the european tech tree or will it be a completely new one?
meager sierra
I think it will branch out from t4
strange oyster
thanks gentlemen
keen escarp
@gentle wasp oop
gentle wasp
Hm?
keen escarp
You said u played your tier 10 like trash your first
gentle wasp
Oh yea lol
keen escarp
Imma get my tier 10 today or tomorrow
I was supposed to get it today but i forgot the first x2 so oop. Or even monday
deep dawn
The Sheridan need to habe more armor
tulip sail
It really doesn't it's got more then it really needs rn since it's got all of the extra spaced armour
tulip edge
why do you want more armour on a light tank is what I am thinking
rapid orchid
The Tiger II turret traverse speed need to be buff a little bit
gentle wasp
No, you came here yesterday asking for a nerf too. I suggest you learn to play it.
low elk
Learn?
pshhh what is this
gentle wasp
That’s true. Just buff everything that I am too inept to get good in.
rotund skiff
ahhhh, yes, let's buff the tiger's traverse EVEN MORE so that i can safely yolo and not be circled by mediums/lights despite that being the only advantage they have over me.
the hull traverse alone is like 40-something degrees a second what more do you want
low elk
give it instant traverse so you spin in circles as soon as you try to turn
both a buff and a nerf
lusty matrix
should I get the chieftain mk 6
rapid orchid
Yesh
gentle wasp
You should get the crate at least
broken turtle
NERF super pershing pls. it may impossible but it's an op tank. Just hull down and no one can't do anything
normal pershing can't do that cuz a weak mantlet
solid gate
It’s literally one of the worst T8 prems...
gentle wasp
FYI this is not a troll channel to talk about stupid buffs so get out of here thanks everyone
broken turtle
bruh.
gentle wasp
bruh
broken turtle
but anyway look at the superpershing. It's a good tank. Absoulute good, 10 times better than normal pershing. Somehow people not gonna play it well idk, just bring them to the pershing and they will know how good the superpershing already
gentle wasp
I’m not joking, the super Pershing is awful and if you can’t fight it then I don’t know what to say
tight raven
How many tier 6 tanks can leopard pen from the front? Chi-To is one
broken turtle
hellcat
gentle wasp
Not much else
chrome lotus
Ye
gentle wasp
@broken turtle terrible mobility, bad gun, weak copulas, weak sides, paper rear, drivers port that t4 tanks can pen, and 200mm of pen will go right through the upper plate.
Tell me exactly why you want this piece of crap nerfed?
broken turtle
at least it's all better than normal pershing
gentle wasp
No it isn’t.
tight raven
usually the premium version of a tech tree tank is a bit worst
broken turtle
huh?
gentle wasp
Regular Pershing has better gun handling, mobility, prammo pen, and a more reliable turret
broken turtle
it's mantlet is terrible. Can't hulldown in tier 9 as most medium will go through
gentle wasp
How do you think the SP is going to fare vs t9s?
solid gate
the super pershing is horrible, nothing more needed to be said
gentle wasp
Thank you
broken turtle
still gonna do pretty well, except some accurate med like leo pta
gentle wasp
You’re joking
solid gate
excuse me but lemme get my logic hammer so I can hammer some logic into your brain @broken turtle
viral lodge
SP is a med that tries to be a heavy and fails bad at both roles.
broken turtle
bruh
gentle wasp
Is that your only argument
broken turtle
yes. That's my opinion.
gentle wasp
Or is it short for “bruh I don’t know what I am talking about so instead of educating myself or admitting I am wrong I will just say bruh”
viral lodge
All T9s will butter the SP, to give you an idea T29 (A T7) Prammo can pen through the faceguard into the turret.
gentle wasp
There goes your beloved mantlet
viral lodge
257 pen btw does that, so you get the TDs packing over 300 and poof any armour, most prammo will butter any part of the tank.
gentle wasp
Doesn’t have the speed or gun handling to run with meds, doesn’t have the armor or pen to combat heavies.
solid gate
and don't forget, most tier 9 mediums have the same 105 gun
viral lodge
*I mean an E 50 can even flat out ram and fight the SP
gentle wasp
@broken turtle b r u h
solid gate
most of them can pen you like Butter
I think we won the argument. The Fish hasn't given a response
broken turtle
bruh
gentle wasp
Pathetic
solid gate
I stand corrected, he gave a response, albeit a feeble one
broken turtle
haven't try it, prob buy it soon
gentle wasp
Lol it’s your funeral.
solid gate
Did you just say that you were going to buy the SuperPershing m8?
gentle wasp
Nah just let him he deserves it. Let’s see if he still wants a nerf after driving it 100 times.
orchid nymph
Just get lowe
gentle wasp
That’s not much better
viral lodge
Lowe at least has a decent gun. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle wasp
True
solid gate
I love T-34
Type T-34 57mm is the only option if you want it to perform like the T-34 57 in WoT
tulip sail
The sp is a great tank....
Against people who cant/dont aim or rely on auto aim
gentle wasp
Or possibly stock tier sevens
tulip sail
True I didn't think of that but then pramo
Though in upsring it's a great tank period (somehow)
solid gate
Btw why WG ? Stock SU-100 is a fk ing 85mm
and the one that should be equipped need 16,5k xp
gentle wasp
I think they are nerfing it’s abilities so it will be completely useless @tulip sail
soft smelt
Best gun for T-34-2? 100mm or 122?
supple coyote
the beeg one
soft smelt
Cool thanks
gentle wasp
Yea I think the 400 alpha makes it a better tank although I struggled with it and had better success with the 100mm
fervent pewter
122mm used to be my go-to until chimera just kinda exist
gentle wasp
I don’t like your name 😂
supple coyote
It’s better to peek and run with that tank than to stand and fight @soft smelt
soft smelt
@supple coyote great thanks for the advice
supple coyote
no problem boblem. that tank is a lot of fun when you play it right
fervent pewter
I don’t like your name 😂
@gentle wasp you just dont like facts
gentle wasp
@fervent pewter is it tho 👀
supple coyote
i mean... the su130pm do be looking a lot cooler
gentle wasp
Skorp plays better and that is what matters to me
supple coyote
the real test is which will be back in the store for me to buy sooner
gentle wasp
Su was sold more recently right
supple coyote
ya - it was in the containers collection too
gentle wasp
Ah yea
Was Skorp in those 🤔
supple coyote
i dont remember
i have a few su130pm charms from that, there may have been skorp crates too tho
fervent pewter
nah su was not sold recently as i remember, still have lowest player count in the entire game sitting at 192 players
gentle wasp
I want to say there weren’t but I’m not sure. There were the Skorp lockboxes before that too
supple coyote
yea that was like a month before or something
fervent pewter
i like su cuz batchat troll hull, thats it, oh and speed.
gentle wasp
I prefer the gun and full turret of the Skorp
supple coyote
ah ive never actually shot the hull of the su because squishy turret
and that nice square, HE-able booty
fervent pewter
yea i got too many bounce from the hull (AP) cuz if you come out sideway the hull wil be red, still paper but atleast it will bounce something
supple coyote
that sounds spicy ngl
fervent pewter
solid gate
Again i love T34
harsh spire
Zzzz so hard to grind mybe i thanxs to wg add new mode bcuz i can grind easyer and more faster
haughty forge
yeah just use 19 free exp
lavish bolt
Perfect xp amount
broken sentinel
EZ
Just use gold
solid gate
The cammouflage skins may need some changes , bright skins like ghost and shattered ice should be winter cammouflage , the greenish cammouflage may be adressen to none winter none urban maps , yellow styles for desert all other for urban .
Also all tanks may have a new kind of cammouflage , historical . May change the name to veteran tankname
The re usability of cammouflage after purged should all be free
If colors don’t match map the concealment should be basic . Realistically a good camouflage makes objects less spotteble if it matches the surroundings , but a green bush in the middle of yellow corn does the opposite we all agree on that fact
What’s the best gun for the nashorn?
solid gate
the 8,8 cm PaK 43 L/71
nocturne tiger
mAN i lOVe pLaYiNg kV-2
it's so fun one shotting light tanks
especially when I encounter VK 28.01 D and Chaffees
solid gate
Until your team is ded and enemies circle you
nocturne tiger
True
solid gate
Some dumbass don't know how to play the 152 and die instantly
quartz marlin
which one is better? vk 100.01 p or Tiger II ?
tulip edge
Well, they do different things, but the Tiger is one of the best tech tree tanks at tier 8 you could be driving right now
quartz marlin
i have both but idk which one will i continou for the next tier
lunar lintel
FV215b 183 is just a tier X KV-1S with derp gun
Change my mind
rapid orchid
FV215b 183 is a tank destroyer with nice aim time
I play KV 1S and it cost heavy loses
I had sold my KV 1S
broken turtle
FV215b 183 is just a tier X KV-1S with derp gun
Change my mind
@lunar lintel rlly?
183 hardly bounce while u can bounce and sidescrape pretty well with 1s. And 1s camo value is absolutely better
solid gate
Doesn't 183 have garbage dispersion?
hushed shadow
Yes
broken turtle
183 got terrible accuracy with god damage, like kv-2, but 183 got the expensive op hesh
solid gate
If it hits
broken turtle
thousand of damages will be dealt
solid gate
That's why it's the best tank in the game, all classes mixed
tiny plume
T343
hollow moth
Some TDs are purely TDs, any other stat is actually good unless the cannon, no armor, no speed, no concealment, etc
Exemples of them are 183, ISU-152, SU-100Y, etc
bronze terrace
How i penetrate the Tiger 2 front with new Kv-4..?
hollow moth
Depend, are you using max tier cannon? @bronze terrace
bronze terrace
The tier IX one?
bronze terrace
No, i still don't have much XP to have that..
hollow moth
How much penetration your main cannon have on prammo
bronze terrace
175
hollow quiver
thats standard ammo on the 122
hollow belfry
If you are using the 122 you won’t ever penetrate a Tiger II’s front unless you hit the cupola @bronze terrace
bronze terrace
What should i do... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fast compass
Flank /s
Ok serious answer get the tier 9 107mm
grizzled hatch
I feel like the Chieftain Mk6 needs an armor tweak, the turret armor is strong, yes. But even at the slightest of angles you get weird pennable triangles where there should be 350mm+ of armor. If it wasn't for this, the tank would be perfectly fine as is but pair it with a rather massive cupola you get a turret that is somewhat unreliable for a tank that should be impenetrable. The hull armor is fine, but personally I would like to see that little strip of vertical weak armor removed.
sharp siren
Shake your turret
hollow moth
When you play with American heavies you learn a tactic called as "dance the turret", it's basically shake it to make harder to hit and penetrate the weakspots @grizzled hatch
M103, M6 EXP, T57 Heavy have the same problems, that's why you should jsut shake it
haughty forge
mk6 is balanced
grizzled hatch
i know those strats, yeah. my issue is the fact that the armor is inconsistent. i liked the t29 so much is because the turret was impenetrable frontally and at moderate angles.
haughty forge
t29 is op, mk6 is balanced
grizzled hatch
fair enough
hollow moth
Tecnically T29 turret is easy to penetrate If you have a good aim and a decent pen
haughty forge
decent gun you mean
grizzled hatch
i think you needed about 250+ pen at t7 to even have a chance to go through those cheeks
hollow moth
Not the gun at all, but at least aim and pen should be good @haughty forge
Bro who need cheeks if there is a giant cupola @grizzled hatch
grizzled hatch
but one thing that confuses me is why the mk6 is considered better than the Super Conqueror. from what i have seen the SC has better overall armor though it does have some weird weakspots on the turret like the mk6
the cupola is easily hidden behind gun depression
haughty forge
super conqueror only has turret armor and gun depression, MK6 has mobility, excellent gun, decent armor
hollow moth
Idk too, SC have an almost impenetrable turret and impenetrable upper plate, even better than Maus @grizzled hatch
haughty forge
sc is hullwond tank while mk6 can be played as a medium tank
grizzled hatch
from what i have seen on my mk6 is that the cheeks just below and beside the gun is pennable at 260+ mm
tulip edge
The cheeks and a cupola that can be HE’d
grizzled hatch
weird. the cupola has also proven to be harder than i expected to hit
scenic apex
Guys tiger 2 or is3 which is better?
tulip edge
Tiger II in general
IS3 is a good tier 8 heavy though
scenic apex
???
tulip edge
“Tiger II in general”
scenic apex
But is3 has the alpha right?
tacit gull
scenic apex
Im broke .
tacit gull
Worth?
sharp siren
No
tacit gull
Ah ok what’s considered worth then?
tulip edge
is3 has 90 more alpha but worse gun handling and reload
sharp siren
T34
tulip edge
T26E4 is a really mediocre tank and even for a good offer of 4000 gold I wouldnt buy it
tacit gull
Ah So something like this would be better?
plucky merlin
I cant take it anymore
tulip edge
That is worth your gold @tacit gull T34 is a solid tank
plucky merlin
At8 is suffering
sharp siren
Indeed
tacit gull
Ah ok ty !
bronze terrace
Hopefully War Gaming increase penetration on KV-4....
lyric oriole
The penetration is fine, what it's needs IMO is the upcoming armor buff, and it also needs more view range
solid gate
I saw talk about the KV-1S. I think it once was supposed to be the derpy like heavy of tier 6 but since KV-2 was added it doesn’t fit that role anymore. It’s less derpy than KV-2 but isn’t exactly a great normal style heavy. The accuracy is like the worst of the 122mm guns and the reload is so long.
@lyric oriole Also I agree on that.
celest shard
Why can't my he shell do 1k alpha against the front of the t49, I'm in a borsig with 90 he pen, and he has 60mm front armor... logic?
lyric oriole
Well the average damage is 960 so...
celest shard
I usually get high rolls
lyric oriole
Also T49 doesn't have 60mm of frontal armor, not sure where you pulled that stat from
celest shard
But i get 390 he damage not even 900
lyric oriole
Then you aren't penetrating you are likely hitting spaced armor
celest shard
There is no spaced armor
lyric oriole
Tracks, gun, gun mantlet there is
celest shard
60mm effective armor* no im hitting the middle front upper plate
He should go kaboom not me
lyric oriole
The only way it has 60mm of Armor Frontally is at this angle which I'm not sure how you put yourself in that scenario in a Borsig
celest shard
Im not perfect, i was giving a general number
But still, how is he not taking 900 damage
lyric oriole
Because you probably hit the purple or blue areas or you hit some spot like this
lyric oriole
X to doubt
viral lodge
They are telling you what needed to happen to get the result, RNG is a factor.
celest shard
I think the rng gods hate me
robust crescent
Russian heavies don’t have a good view range and I don’t think they will buff it
viral lodge
🤔 that felt like it came out of no where
celest shard
If I hit the track it wouldn't do any damage btw
lyric oriole
It would, it would splash for about 300-400
viral lodge
^
celest shard
Gun and gun mantle would do less than 300
lyric oriole
Tip of the gun sure, the mantlet would be about the same range as the track
viral lodge
^
celest shard
Sure, except ive tested it
lyric oriole
X to Doubt again
viral lodge
Considering what you said about tracks doubt
celest shard
Assuming makes an a** out of u and me
lyric oriole
Maybe you, but not me
celest shard
Shows how much u know
lyric oriole
Yes, a lot
viral lodge
Consider the fact they are a community helper
lyric oriole
I'm not always right that's correct.
But I am right about this
viral lodge
In this case they are
solid gate
What even is the argument here
The gun mantlet area and the front hull have areas that are really notorious for splash damage you most likely hit the mantlet area or the driver ports which cause splashes on the T49
celest shard
That t49s wont take 900 damage from the borsig
lyric oriole
Only if you don't aim
solid gate
RNGesus wasn't kind with you with your HE penetration, that's it
And at that angle the front sharp dent from the 2 plates can also cause splashes
celest shard
I dont hit the turret at all in the t49
lyric oriole
There is also the tracks and that funky Angle I showed
viral lodge
It’s called RNG, Rhm isn’t exactly an accurate tank
solid gate
And HE is wonky too
celest shard
Min he pen on borsig is 81
lyric oriole
Yes, HE is extremely sensitive to angles and doesn't pierce spaced armor
celest shard
Im 5 feet away 90% of those engagements
viral lodge
Why are you that close in an Rhm is the real question
lyric oriole
In a Borsig I'm starting to see the issue
celest shard
I get flanked and my team runs away because they r bots
keen escarp
Thats why i used the chinese tank destroyer grind
lyric oriole
Mmm yes the bot scapegoats
keen escarp
The chinese tds have better pen so they can HE better
viral lodge
dont think it works that way
celest shard
I do an average damage of 1.5k damage in the borsig, my teammates are bots
keen escarp
Like the Wz 131 = 181 pen
lyric oriole
1.5k damage at tier 8 is not anything special
viral lodge
1.5k is not exactly something to boast about in a derp TD
celest shard
When my teammates go lower than that
lyric oriole
You are killing a medium is all you are doing
viral lodge
And? Bad teams are completely normal and not that hard to farm damage off of most matches
keen escarp
Literally on my friends account i played in an rhm and about 3 tanks used HE on me
celest shard
@viral lodge i get flanked on a reguar so yes it is, nobody watches or scouts flanks
viral lodge
If you are getting flanked you are too far from your team/too aggressively positioned
celest shard
I've recently gotten the derp gun
keen escarp
They know that rhm is so weak
celest shard
@viral lodge nope im with my team, im just not fast enough to maintain the push they do
viral lodge
You don’t push but you put them between you and your enemies
solid gate
Damn what kinda tanks do they have the rhm is not a slow tank by any means
viral lodge
Rhm is rather speedy for a TD
celest shard
The tiger2 is a common tank (decent speed), meds and lights, isu152, heavies are usually quicker
Im completely maxed btw
solid gate
Excuse me did you just say heavies are usually the quicker class or did I misread that?
celest shard
What? I just said that heavies are usually quicker than the rhm
viral lodge
Tiger 2 is one of the faster heavies and is almost a Heavium (most other heavies are slower than Rhm)
celest shard
Wasn't a fan when i had it
solid gate
The rhm can peak at 35-40 so yeah the heaviums may be faster than that. But no other heavy
Do you constantly ride uphill or something?
celest shard
No, is3 is faster, t34, american heavies in general, amx, the only tank ive seen that cant pass me is the vk100
solid gate
Are you sure you're maxed?
celest shard
Either way, the rng gods hate me :(
Yes
I wasn't a fan of the emil's ridiculous speed for little armor and the upgrades were cheap
viral lodge
T34 is slow lol as far as heavies go
celest shard
Faster than rhm
viral lodge
Thats a no
solid gate
Are you constantly driving backwards? I have the WT so I grinded the rhm whole, I didn't use any free xp cause it's not terrible stock. I had no problem at least keeping up with most heavies.
celest shard
I'm gonna see if I can get 1 of my clan members to hop on with the t49 and help me test again
gentle wasp
Lol
celest shard
From my experience, yes the t34 is faster, on paper it may be the same but in game it doesn't reflect
fast compass
T34 is much much slower
Look at the effective p/w ratios on different terrains
gentle wasp
I find it unlikely that the game does not reflect its own statistics
viral lodge
You are driving wrong then, speed paper stats are indisputable.
solid gate
Once again are you driving the damn thing backwards?
fast compass
Lol
viral lodge
The only way a T34 is faster is if they are driving backwards
celest shard
No, paper stats are definitely not indisputable, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion
gentle wasp
It’s your word against everyone else’s plus the facts. I don’t know what you are expecting.
viral lodge
^
When majority agree with the paper stats that indicates that those who disagree are quite probably incorrect.
celest shard
The min he pen is 81 and the t49 has 45mm at best, when you only get 400 damage using he. How does that work? On paper I win every timemage)
solid gate
Are you looking at the stats in game or in blitz hangar?
viral lodge
Easy, tracks, manlet, etc, we have told you how it works
celest shard
Both
gentle wasp
Use armor inspector to learn where not to shoot
celest shard
I don't hit any spaced armor
fast compass
Hit anything not white and you are not penning it with HE
solid gate
So the whole front should be penetrated?
viral lodge
You do realize most people here (Veteran role especially) have a lot Lot more experience than you. (Vets have 9-10x more gameplay experience than you)
celest shard
Cool, then explain my lack of 900 damage
fast compass
Well not exactly@solid gate
viral lodge
RNG + Tracks/Manlet, RNG does exist, RHM is not a laser gun.
gentle wasp
^^^
viral lodge
We have told you what happened, there is no other thing that could happen, there are set mechanics to how things work, and yes send replay
gentle wasp
Ok do you have a replay?
celest shard
I am experienced enough not to hit tracks. Yes ive got at least 15 replays
viral lodge
Invalid excuse
Its called
RNG
solid gate
You probably didn't praise RNGesus before the game, rookie mistake
gentle wasp
Upload the replay to wotinspector and process data to see the shot. I don’t want to watch your crap gameplay, just show me the shot
celest shard
From 5ft away? Unlikely
viral lodge
Great aim? Also send a replay.
pale crow
Give T110E3 the pumpkin.
Why not.
celest shard
How do I send replays so it actually sends, never works for me :(
Mobile
viral lodge
Are you on PC or mobile?
solid gate
Just screen record it
celest shard
Ok
viral lodge
Go to profile, go to replay, click share, click discord, select this channel.
fast compass
Just screen record it
@solid gate no. We want the replay file
solid gate
💁
pale crow
Go to replays, tap on the replay to get the share button to come up. Then choose discord, then this channel
solid gate
Is he dead?
solid gate
Can you tell us when it is?
celest shard
1 s
long raft
What can you tell me about rhm guys ?
long raft
😂
celest shard
I'm right and this game sux
gentle wasp
Don’t play then
@long raft it’s a glass cannon with great camo and a big boom
celest shard
I want grille
viral lodge
Grille < Rhm tier for tier.. Worse camo
celest shard
@viral lodge people say waffle is the best in the line
solid gate
You shot here, anyone more experienced mind telling me if that's some kinda he stopper or something
viral lodge
Ya, btw that replay you hit the driver viewport. (which causes splash)
solid gate
Here you go
viral lodge
Just bad rng ¯_(ツ)_/¯
celest shard
@viral lodge there is no way it has more armor than the rest of the tank
solid gate
It doesn't, it just caused it to explode outside the tank
viral lodge
It doest need to be thick armour, but it has more armour and it does cause splash. Its a fact as you saw in the replay.
celest shard
F rng
gentle wasp
Lol
solid gate
↑
gentle wasp
So it’s RNGs fault that you only managed to hit one shot too huh
long raft
Sry Bt i watched thé replay and this is a quite bad replay bcs u went to wrong position AND RNG absolutely didnt helped you 😂
solid gate
He stuck by his mates at all time
long raft
I had rhm two days ago and i have the 150 mm and i love it
celest shard
@long raft stick to your team
@gentle wasp didn't send my best replay, sent the replay that you requested
gentle wasp
@celest shard I’m merely suggesting that you learn the game a bit more before blaming RNG for everything.
long raft
it happens to everyone to play games like that (me first) 😂
How many battles have you mn @celest shard ?
celest shard
I couldn't see the driver hatch because of his camo, I'm sorry
What?
2.6k overall and 128 in the rhm
@long raft
gentle wasp
Yea you do not have a lot of battles, plenty of room to improve
gentle wasp
Right so it won’t be too hard to get good then
gentle wasp
Take advice from people that are better than you, watch videos on specific tanks, learn good tactics at lower tiers. There are plenty of ways for willing players.
celest shard
@gentle wasp i have watched vids on the borsig, videos seem highly situational
And other tanks of course
haughty forge
i thought you went offline @gentle wasp
gentle wasp
@celest shard agreed, but if you learn enough situations you will be able to put together a nice game plan. It’s not necessarily about the situation they are in, more about the tactics they are using. There are general tank tip videos out there, meadsy has done some, and bushka’s how not to explode series is still relevant.
@haughty forge no?
I’ve been online for like an hour straight lol
gentle wasp
I think it’s top 10 reasons why you keep losing or something. He does good stuff
magic raptor
SoOoOo Im thinking of playing TDs, who has the best line? I play heavies atm so Im use to being tanky
supple coyote
Don’t do the British line
fast compass
268, foch, e3 are all great choices.
268 and foch get pretty troll armour and excellent mobility. E3 is just a superheavy in terms of armour and mobility
magic raptor
@fast compass Im still a little new so youll have to tell me which tree lmao
solid gate
Chance do the fv215b (183) line you will have so much fun I swear hahahhahahaahahhahahahaahahahaahahahahahaha
gentle wasp
268 (Soviet) and Jg E100 (Germany) are very easy lines
magic raptor
I saw the e100 got that 800 dmg
fast compass
Obj268 is probably still best for new players.
magic raptor
I was thinking germany cause that line has decent armor, but the dmg seems bad til the e100
supple coyote
not really too bad, youll do just fine
tulip edge
The E100 line has never been better to go down than now. The tier 8-10 of that line are solid tanks
magic raptor
Mean while the obj268 line is oof
Hows the early game tho, I wont be t8 for awhile cause work and stuff
spare sand
Do collector tanks (with the blue name) increase in value or not? Like the gold value or something like that
supple coyote
nope lol they just cool cos no one else has em
solid gate
You can flex
spare sand
Ah oke, not much to flex with at t3 tho 😂 was thinking about selling some to buy a t8 from the offers
magic raptor
Which line do you guys recommend then, e100 or 268
solid gate
E100 isn't a td
supple coyote
you can always buy the collectable tanks back later @spare sand
fast compass
The foch is an insanely easy tank to drive but the line itself is not so fun until tier 8 or 9.
If you don't have much experience in the game, obj268 is certainly the best line for you. Jageroo line is solid but you will have to know how to get time on target without completing dying in the lower tiers
supple coyote
low tier france is.....
painful
solid gate
Low tier fence is pretty average isn't it?
magic raptor
268 it is then I guess, hows their armor?
gentle wasp
@magic raptor as Jedi said the 268 line gives you the easiest intro to td play. The whole line is solid 6-10. Play style pretty much remains the same.
The armor is not bad but definitely nothing to rely on.
spare sand
For credits or gold? @supple coyote
supple coyote
for gold - theres a way to submit tickets on the wotb website
gentle wasp
@spare sand it’s pinned in #general-blitz-discussion
magic raptor
@gentle wasp thanks, just bought initial TD so 268 it is
gentle wasp
@magic raptor nice, good luck with it
supple coyote
good luck!
magic raptor
Tips? Lmao never played TD
gentle wasp
Snipe don’t camp. Stay back for the most part, you are not meant for close combat. Get into good medium/long range spots and learn to set up shots.
magic raptor
Kk
gentle wasp
That line has pretty good mobility so you can relocate or take an early position if needed
supple coyote
shoot the tank with higher health not the one thats at 28 hp, thats why light and mediums are there
hushed shadow
Yes, but it depends on the situation too. If there’s no one really aiming for that tank, then it’s better to remove that gun from the battle
supple coyote
tru tru
crystal hare
The Kranvagn is a 50B with an autoreloader and armor
restive ravine
I should purchase chaffee or Kv1s line ?
supple coyote
thats two very different lines
nocturne tiger
what's a good mt in tier 6
supple coyote
mt? medium??
nocturne tiger
yeas
supple coyote
cromwell and t-34-85 are some of the most used tournament mediums - thats cos theyre good
nocturne tiger
I have difficulty using T 34-85
hollow belfry
VK 30.01 P is a hidden gem aswell
supple coyote
oo yea
nocturne tiger
yeah I considered buying VK 30.01 P but I chose T 34-85 instead tho
supple coyote
vk 30.01 d is far less good
hollow belfry
The D is just worse than the VK 28.01 and VK 30.01 P
nocturne tiger
never enjoyed playing the D...
hollow belfry
Just went through it, the Panther is worth the grind tho
gentle wasp
Pz IV S and Bromwell for premiums, 34-85 and Vk P for tech tree
crystal hare
@nocturne tiger blasphemy! The VK 30.01 D is amazing
gentle wasp
👀
astral jewel
@hollow moth sc turret is pretty bad and the upper plate can get penned easily by tds
hollow moth
How thick is SC upper plate @astral jewel
wise moth
It's very thick if you have HEAT, but not that thick if you have APCR
hollow moth
Tell me a tank that have a 320mm pen APCR
solid gate
@hollow moth You also have to take into account APCR’s normalization factor. It doesn’t do much but it can allow for penetrations that are arguable surprising.
hollow moth
Yes, but you would still needing at least a 300mm APCR @solid gate
solid gate
Of course AP has the best normalization. Normalization is an odd mechanic that is hard to tell if it’s working or not.
@hollow moth Possibly. I’ve yet to face a Super Conqueror as I’ve not been playing tiers 9 or 10. Also it’s a crate tank so won’t be that common anyway. Especially after the hype is dead which is probably already wearing off anyhow.
hollow moth
Yes, but even being super rare it doesn't cut the question, is there a tier 9-10 tank with a 300mm APCR?
solid gate
shrugs That is a question for Posit1ve and you had asked him it first.
hollow moth
I know that TDs have 300mm AP, but for other tanks it can be a problem
solid gate
Possibly or even probably. But Super Conqueror isn’t what it was hyped up to be that’s for sure.
hollow moth
Welp, I expect that the tanks that I plan to grind have this penetration, if no, I got a real problem
The only two weakspots that I found are the cupola and low plate
solid gate
Droodles said you can penetrate a part of the gun mantlet if not the whole gun mantlet.
hollow moth
But how thick it is
viral lodge
When you say APCR does that include primary or when you say APCR do you just mean prammo including heat?
hushed shadow
I think is7 has like 300mm Apcr
hollow moth
Including primary @viral lodge
viral lodge
Meds are all sub 300 primary.
hexed needle
What is the credit coefficient of super conqueror?
hollow moth
Most of the tier X are sub 300mm of penetration in primary @viral lodge
viral lodge
Correct, even TDs.
hollow moth
Even jageroo is sub 300mm, it have 299mm of pen in primary
viral lodge
It doesnt if you run cali.
hollow moth
Who runs Cali on Jagdpanzer E100 if it's made to give 4 shots per minute?
viral lodge
Who is picky about pen being high and doesnt run cali
hollow moth
299mm is already a high pen, unless if the guy wants a 418mm HEAT
viral lodge
Most tanks have over 300MM pen with prammo.
hollow moth
But if it's HEAT, it's gone
viral lodge
For which tank? SC?
hollow moth
For SC, the spaced armor remove penetration from it
viral lodge
SC has the weak cupola and bad overall turret, APCR is better since the spaced armour doesnt affect it as much but you can use HEAT if you aim right.
hollow moth
Bad turret overall? Blitz hangar shows that it's 300mm+ everywhere unless the cupola (ok blitzhangar don't considere normalization, but it remembers the Löwe turret)
Ah
I would check some tanks penetration but the game is freezing on the loading screen
Oh no, E5 have HEAT
viral lodge
Lets put it this way, the good players says it has a bad turret, ill take good experienced players opinions over a website.
wise moth
@hollow moth 50 b, 215b, S. Conq, VK 90.01P, Maus all have >310mm APCR pen
hollow moth
Ah nice, heavies won't have problems against it, or at least some of them
wise moth
Meds have to use HEAT against the cupola to pen
hollow moth
The cupola isn't around 220mm?
wise moth
Same goes for heavies with HEAT, although they can pen the cheeks if they miss the spaced armor
@hollow moth Yeah, but who's ever heard of HEAT with less than ~300 pen?
hollow moth
What? HEAT with low pen?
viral lodge
They are saying Heat is always high pen generally
hollow moth
HEAT have even more pen than APCR usually
Ah, Vickers Light have 290mm of pen on HEAT
wise moth
Vickers, 140, and Bat all have 290 HEAT pen, but it's still way more than enough to pen the S. Conq cupola
Especially if they use calibrated shells
hollow moth
I would ask why my Bat Chat have 325mm pen on HEAT, but I remembered that I run CS on it
viral lodge
@wise moth What tanks should you not run cali on? Id assume high pen TDs but I run it on my 4005 since Id rather not fire prammo.
wise moth
@viral lodge At this point, I've become an anti-cali extremist. The only tanks I run cali on are the Bat Chat, T57, and Nightmare
hollow moth
Wow
viral lodge
🤔
wise moth
Tournaments are a different story, but in pubs, I'm super anti-CS
viral lodge
Interesting take on it. Ill keep that in mind.
hollow moth
What about IS-5? 297mm HEAT pen or 12 secs reload
astral jewel
@hollow moth 300mm+ apcr isnt that rare, most prem shells can go through sc upper plate and if u have heat just shoot under the turret and it pens most of the time
ur turret is also an he magnet. any 640 alpha gun does like 300 dmg with he to the turret
wise moth
Oh yeah, I forgot about the HE spam. When I was testing S. Conq, the HE spam was a huge issue
solid gate
@wise moth doesnt 30B have 295 heat pen? I haven’t checked it in a while
wise moth
Apparently it does... I always thought it had 300
solid gate
I hated the 30B for that
hollow moth
Will light Vickers get a legendary camouflage?
wise moth
Yah, next update I think
hollow moth
Look how they massacred my Jagdpanzer E100, first they add Progetto and give a legendary camo for it, after they show Sheridan and it's legendary camo, and now Vickers and another legendary camo
Let's be honest, Jagdpanzer E100 should have a badass camo too
wise moth
The real travesty is that they took away Jgpz's 420 base HEAT pen
hollow moth
They are always massacring my tonks, oh god until when we'll live without a legendary skin on Jagdpanzer E100
forest bloom
Does anyone have tips for the M41 Walker Bulldog?
solid gate
Its a good tank
lyric oriole
Run and gun, try not to sit in one spot but obviously don't yolo the enemy
gentle wasp
Don’t engage. Spot early, relocate and farm distracted targets
keen escarp
No scope!!
crystal hare
Did you know that the ru 251 has the same HE pen as the LeKpz 90 mm?
AP dpm on ru is a bit better too!
Weird stats
haughty forge
Wait what? Ru has worse acceleration
crystal hare
Here u go @haughty forge
lunar lintel
183 hardly bounce while u can bounce and sidescrape pretty well with 1s. And 1s camo value is absolutely better
both 183 and KV-1S can take 1/3 or 1/2 of the enemy's hp with the same tier
Does anyone have tips for the M41 Walker Bulldog?
try not to drift
low elk
drifting is fun but it has screwed me over many times just because i wanted some fun
crystal hare
Tips on T-54 ltwt? I just got it
lunar lintel
i don't have it but i'm sure it can win against a T49
crystal hare
Anyone else?
wanton grove
Can someone give me the link for tank credits coefficient?
crystal hare
It’s in pinned
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-56-missing-a-few-new-tanks/
@wanton grove here ya go
gentle wasp
@crystal hare you can brawl with other lights or meds with low pen because you have decent armor, good alpha, and nice ramming ability, but play like you have no armor against everything else. You are a light tank after all, so flank and relocate regularly.
wanton grove
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-56-missing-a-few-new-tanks/
@wanton grove here ya go
Ok thanks 👍
crystal hare
Thx tankeatingtiger
gentle wasp
Np man
crystal hare
😁
lunar lintel
· 230.0% Angry Connor
should i buy angry connor instead of Lowe?
wise spindle
Heck no Lowe is way better
low elk
lowe better
lunar lintel
lowe has 185%
angry connor has 230%
solid gate
@lunar lintel You’re forgetting AC is tier 5 and has no armor and drives faster in reverse. You aren’t going to do well with it most likely.
crystal hare
LeKpz 90 mm got 170%
keen escarp
@crystal hare stay hidden or snipe ppl and help when in need
orchid nymph
Credits are based on damage dealt so lowe is better
haughty forge
credits are based on assistance to allies and dmg
solid gate
should I go down chinese td line
strange thicket
no
268 is better
gentle wasp
Agreed
orchid nymph
Tep
solid gate
Tru
fierce acorn
obj 268
thorn glacier
Chinese premiums are NOT infinitely better than their tech tree counterparts in pretty much every instance
broken sentinel
T-34-2 has more usable armor and is way more mobile than the T-34-3
Type 59 and 59 Patton are not comparable to the T-34-2. They're decent.
121B is in many ways worse than the 121
WZ-113 is much more of a meta tank than the WZ-111-5A
Type 62 and Type 64 have no comparable counterparts for their respective tiers
WZ-120-1G FT is straight up better than the WZ-111-1G FT but the 111 is not terrible
@thorn glacier
thorn glacier
im just reposting knowledge from a few weeks ago I only have the wz111
broken sentinel
then maybe you shouldn't make generalized statements about something you know nothing about
thorn glacier
I assumed it was right it came from the internet
broken sentinel
That's your first mistake, believing something you read on the internet that has no basis. Maybe next time, instead of repeating false information, you should check to see how these claims hold up before you go posting them around everywhere.
thorn glacier
dang captain it's ok to chill a bit nobody's dying, I stand corrected ¯_(ツ)_/¯
broken sentinel
Spreading misinformation without checking to see if it's right is "chill"?
broken sentinel
@tepid smelt You're pretty much right, I forgot about the tier 8 heavies. I do really like the WZ-110 though, so it's not much of an issue. The 110 can be played very well and has a high skill ceiling. The WZ-112-2 has a pretty low skill cap as far as I'm aware but it's easy to play.
@thorn glacier a sentence that was wrong. Passing something off as if it's a fact when it's clearly wrong is not "just a sentence".
thorn glacier
If the wz-112-2 has a not pretty low skill cap ur under arrest
broken sentinel
it has great DPM, which can be used very well
@thorn glacier you really don't understand conversations do you. I said "as far as I'm aware", which means I'm not 100% sure about it and not stating it as fact.
thorn glacier
fine, "imo"
we good?
coral ridge
The KV-2 is a fun tank. It feels really good to go off and get 4 kills in a game with it.
broken sentinel
@thorn glacier your opinion is factually wrong
@tepid smelt agreed
thorn glacier
why do you care what I prefer
broken sentinel
I don't care what you prefer. I care that you're spreading false rhetoric, which is blatant misinformation. Whether it's your opinion or not means nothing. It's simply false.
thorn glacier
alr now you're overexaggerating a bit
your word choice wasn't even correct here; false rhetoric implies a rhetorical or logical fallacy not "fake news"
silk crown
Question: Is it Spahpanzer SP 1 C of Spahpanzer 1 C?
thorn glacier
@silk crown it says spahpanzer sp 1 c in the garage
silk crown
Oh thanks
thorn glacier
yep
silk crown
I have small screen so it’s like that
broken sentinel
@thorn glacier I didn't say fake news, nor even imply it. Rhetoric applies to anything that is said with a message behind it. Your message was plainly wrong and you presented it without any evidence of possible self-correction.
coral ridge
Is the KV-3 any good?
broken sentinel
@coral ridge not really, but the ST-I and IS-4 are
coral ridge
Ah, I see
thorn glacier
The kv3 and 4 do struggle a bit, but I've heard something about a small buff for the 4 that either already happened or might in the future
broken sentinel
Yes the KV-4 will soon get a buff. Check it out here: https://blitzhangar.com/en/update/7-1-preview
coral ridge
Oh nice
broken sentinel
Grille is also getting a DPM buff, which will be nice
coral ridge
Neat, guess sticking with the St. Emil line will pay off later on
solid gate
Droodles has a video compare about the vk and arl. Both of them are great heavies at tier VI
coral ridge
VK did work for me before I got to the Tiger I, I gotta admit it’s better than I initially though it was
solid gate
I grind out the vk next time I'll buy the tiger I. Is it good ?
coral ridge
So KV-2’s I’ve noticed straight up don’t penetrate the VK’s frontal
I’m talking derp cannon KV-2’s that delete other tanks
The gun is fine, does good damage in my eyes. I’m not one to ogle at numbers so I can’t tell you the most optimal setup or anything like that :p
mental oracle
is t34 worth it?
broken sentinel
yes
keen escarp
Omg guys I Got My First Tier 10
hushed shadow
Nice well done
solid dust
keen escarp
@hushed shadow thanks
granite thunder
nocturne tiger
a 20 bad
marsh quarry
Have any tips on is3 i have a problem using it its front is easy to penerate i need help
fervent pewter
facehug, eh side scrape can work but not recomended cuz yk pikenose
long raft
what can u tell me about FV4005 ? and about RU 251?
solid gate
Bad news for you. The KV-1 is the worst heavy at tier V
long raft
👍
solid gate
It's the worst heavy cause it's outshined by the bdr and the T1, but it's still good
slate peak
Worst heavy? I quite enjoyed it, got a master on it and had a 7k game
marsh quarry
Ok recently i just bought it but im having problem so ok but im using t29 cuz i like tge armor btw i like kv1 its a good armor if you know how to angle and dont rush when using it
tranquil trench
@slate peak i doubt a 7k game at tier 5 is possible
solid gate
Cause they suck💁
tulip edge
you only have 19 battles so you are probably still stock. Give it a chance
Also, looking at that picture, there is room for improvement
drowsy knot
it's strong but not op
glass crypt
@marsh quarry from my experience on currently grinding the is3, you have no hull armor, your side is trolly tho
so peak-a-boom all day everyday, facehugging is quite eh as anything with average depression can shoot your driver hatch
drowsy knot
is-3 turret is pretty good try to play hull-down if you get to the position to sidescrape do it reversed since you outangle your pikenose if you do it frontally gun is a typical russian shot-gun so don't expect constant performance from it @marsh quarry
nocturne tiger
anybody got tips on T34 85? I really need help because I feel like I'm playing it wrong
glass crypt
tbh i dislike reverse sidescraping if the enemy is close as they can just rush your flat side or shoot your rear
drowsy knot
anybody got tips on T34 85? I really need help because I feel like I'm playing it wrong
@Space Dodo121 the t34 85 is a really strong tank try to play at the frontline and take agressive positions your turret armor is troll 100 same goes for the hull
nocturne tiger
thanks for the info, I'll try this on my next match
urban trail
If i alr have the batchat 25t is there any point in getting the the lorraine 40t?
fast compass
Lorraine is a fun tank. Ofc it is not for everyone. Rather than a batchat, it can be compared to the 50 100. Lighter fastwr version with less alpha
urban trail
I was under the impression that it was like a batchat but fatter
quick thicket
They just put those 2 French tanks in the shop not that long ago, why not put back some Chinese tanks 😕
worn ermine
Does anyone know how much XP I’d need to get in order to get an Ace Tanker Badge on Ferdinand?
fast compass
Well it can be compared to batchat if you are willing to stretch a few things as well as compare cross tiers. It is just easier to compare it to a tank in its own tier
urban trail
@fast compass i was just thinking that if the playstyles are so similar then there isnt really much point in buying it
fast compass
Lorraine just like its heavy counterpart fits the support tank role.
Well it is your gold. If you are still interested in buying a french tank, there is the best tier 9 medium on sale just 2k more than the Lorraine
urban trail
Oh, i have no interest in that. Im more of a clipper kinda player
fervent pewter
I was under the impression that it was like a batchat but fatter
@urban trail but batchat is a tier 10?
900 damage burst in tier 8 is pretty good eh
quick thicket
Over 7.5 seconds? It’s ok but it could be better @fervent pewter
fervent pewter
if its any better then the lorraine gonna be kinda op 7.5 is in a good spot
solid gate
I wonder why in PC the Lorraine has the right gun but here they gave it a 90mm with 4 shots. I think it would have been better with the 100mm and 3 shots.
fast compass
I guess wg didn't want to blatantly make a better 50 100
plucky merlin
Btw is at15 better then at7 please say it is
quick thicket
Is chieftain worth 20k gold considering I just got the super conq and it’s sorta the same play style?
plucky merlin
Yes def worth it very good hull down tank and gun is way better including some sort of hesh
solid gate
If you play that line, make sure that no one hit your cupola since the line has tanks that has great armor but has a big ass cupola that eliminate the benefit of having thick armor
long raft
y a des francais oupas ? pcq j en ai marre de parler anglais et je pense que les anglais en ont marre que je massacre leur langue 😂
gentle wasp
@long raft English only please
long raft
is it in rules?
tulip sail
Yes
gentle wasp
“Official server language is English. Using other languages in public channels is unacceptable.”
long raft
ha okkey sorry 😂 . so i must speak eng for all of my frenchs life 😂
strange thicket
join a French Community if you really don't want to follow the server rules
this server is clearly for the English community
viral lodge
Everyone is required to speak english regardless of nationality. ^ ¯_(ツ)_/¯
long raft
mmmh thats true 😀
join a French Community if you really don't want to follow the server rules
this server is clearly for the English community
@strange thicket do u know french servers ? bcs i dont😕
strange thicket
@long raft i am not sure if there is one for the French or not
you can join Pantouflee's server
he has a chat for French people there
long raft
oh nice thx for info 😃
do you know where i can think the link of this server please ? i m not very old on discord and i m a little lost 😂
add to WT E 100
@solid gate nah its too OP
strange thicket
add to WT E 100
@solid gate the tank was cancer on WoT
why would you add it to blitz
solid gate
I had a good time with Alecto even I had a fight 1v1 with AT 2
hollow moth
T28 HTC > SU-122-44
(((American tanks lead the way)))
viral lodge
🤔 HTC has a worse gun though.
hollow moth
But have armor
viral lodge
Armour is useless due to the side mini turret things. way too easy to shoot those.
hollow moth
Not if you use T28 HTC correctly
Also HTC have a better precision
viral lodge
Its like the SP, it has good armour vs bad players.
Ill take a slightly less accurate gun for more dpm and less useless armour. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow moth
HTC is tank for play in corners, you'll be able to hide the hatches and also still trading shots
viral lodge
Shoot the track then, the tank isnt hard to pen, any high pen guns go through it.
hollow moth
What about the mediums and tanks without high pens
viral lodge
Meds/lights just easy flank, HTC is one of the easiest tanks to circle to death in T7.
hollow moth
Teams exist
viral lodge
Teams exist, just kill the teammates and ignore the HTC. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hollow moth
None actually does this, imagine 7 players all ignoring this tank
viral lodge
HTC is a tank that is really only good vs less skilled players or really bad tanks. I always am able to out play it, its too slow.
hollow moth
It's a heavy TD, are you expecting Thunder McQuenn in tracks?
viral lodge
It is what it is, and what it is, and it is well, slow.
hollow moth
Yes, and good armor if you hide hatches
viral lodge
Those hatches are easy to get to, I can either push past you and shoot the other hatchor go through another route or shoot your tracks which will be exposed if you are peeking and hiding the hatch.
hollow moth
Flank will be quite risky considering if there is teammates left
viral lodge
Boom, your corner peek to hide the hatch is useless. Its an easy pen tank, you just need to know where to shoot.
And flanks are always risky
hollow moth
Yep
viral lodge
Prammo, or just aim here. Its pennable, thats the point.
hollow moth
With prammo most of good armors are actually bad
viral lodge
Exactly, prammo exists, you cant ignore it, people who call people out for using prammo are just people who cant accept a game mechanic.
hollow moth
Yeah, that's a fact
But still a good armor if hide hatches
viral lodge
There are too many good lights/fast tanks and high pen tanks in T7 and T8s absolutely delete the HTC.
fast compass
BuT aIm. PrAmMo No SkIls
viral lodge
Prammo is a feature that trades DPM for pen on most tanks. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fast compass
Yeah i have seen a fair few who don't even carry one prammo round into battle
viral lodge
4/5 tanks that have low pen can literally circle the HTC into the ground.
hollow moth
Again, if there is teammates left, it's risky
viral lodge
You just pick off the teammates, its not hard, HTC is easy to avoid, isolate, and delete.
hollow moth
As like is a team would do this
viral lodge
Im going by the standard team of 46-52%er teammates that are the most common.
hollow moth
Do you have T28 HTC?
viral lodge
No, why would I, its not worth buying for me. I have seen how easy it is to obliterate it.
hollow moth
But have you seen a decent player playing it since a lot of 40%ers bought it on the promotion? @viral lodge
viral lodge
I have seen 60%er in it who I still wiped out.
hollow moth
As like if a 60%er wouldn't get killed at least once
viral lodge
I have killed multiple players of varying skill levels that were using that tank.
Its a tank that functions well vs players that dont understand its weaknesses, much like the SP, but once you learn them just like the SP it becomes free damage that bites back.
hollow moth
"I have killed multiple players of varying skill levels that were using that tank."
I've killed 547 IS tanks and variations, does that mean they are bad?
viral lodge
Of course not, IS tanks require some skill to use and have good strengths and uses.
hollow moth
So explain why I got 5 lions of Sinai medal
viral lodge
remind me what the lion medal is.
hollow moth
Kill 100 of any IS tank and variation
hearty wren
I couldn’t find a Off-topic channel so I suppose it’s not illegal to post the M60A3 I saw yesterday here
viral lodge
That is literally an achievement everyone gets over time, that isnt something to boast about.
gentle wasp
@hearty wren #off-topic-discussion would be the best place, but very cool
hollow moth
Welp, eventually you kill the same tank from different wr, doesn't mean if it's good or bad @viral lodge
viral lodge
It doesnt change the fact that the HTC is a slow tank with plently of weaknesses to exploit.
hollow moth
As like every other heavy TD that still with good armor
viral lodge
It has easier to exploit weak spots than most other heavies/assault TDs
hollow moth
Jagdpanzer E100 have 4 different weakspots only on the front, it's extremely easy to exploit too, but it also have a good armor
viral lodge
Jg can hide the lower plate easily, and when angled its near unpennable for meds and lights.
hollow moth
As like with T28 HTC
viral lodge
HTC is slow, with a eh gun for a TD, and too many weak points frontally..
gentle wasp
Even though he just proved that 200mm of pen will butter it, even angled.
hollow moth
as like Jagdpanzer E100 @viral lodge
Unless the gun part
viral lodge
Negative, Jg E100 can get into better positions for armour, the HTC even in its best angle is still pennable.
hollow moth
Jagdpanzer E100 can't peek without show a weak spot, as like HTC
Peek frontally will show all the 4 weakspots, peek in sidescrape will show 3 of them, reverse sidescrape is impossible on jageroo so...
viral lodge
This is making me lose braincells ngl, HTC is a tank that looks good on paper and new players are scared as hell of it, but any one who is decent at the game in a decent tank can wipe it out. (Regardless of the HTC drivers skill)
hollow moth
Yeah, but still with a good armor
viral lodge
It has good armour till you realize it has so many easy to hit weakspots. Same as the SP.
gentle wasp
@hollow moth the copulas, lower plate, drive wheel, and basically the entire side are riddled with weak points. How can you say it has good armor.
hollow moth
As like Jagdpanzer E100
But HTC would show only 2 different weakspots instead if hiding the hatches, the sides and mini cupolas @viral lodge
These parts are hardly penetrated by tier 7 tanks, low plate part may be penetrated with prammo (but I rarely have this problem), cupolas exist and are a good weak spot if you have good aim, sides are a problem too and there is not much ways to hide it, driver part can be a weak spot only with prammo and hatches can be hided @gentle wasp
viral lodge
"cupolas exist and are a good weak spot if you have good aim, sides are a problem too and there is not much ways to hide it, driver part can be a weak spot only with prammo"
Jg E100 isnt comp for a reason
E3 is a better comparison anyway, closer playstyle.
hollow moth
Jag can be penetrated even easier on low plate, cheeks if you have good pen or prammo, cupola if you have good aim, behind tracks if angling can be penetrated if you have good pen too and above engine if you are face hugging it with a tall tank, even more weakspots @viral lodge
viral lodge
Mind you stop bringing up the jag, its a bad comparison.
hollow moth
E3 don't even have a weak spot like the hatches, meanwhile jag have cheeks
gentle wasp
@hollow moth Comet, a common t7 med, has 208 APCR pen. The HTC, in this ideal position, hiding the right side behind cover, can still be penned right through the drive wheel and the spot directly above it. Comet can easily track and then spam prammo through the sides and lower plate. This is when the hatches are best hidden, and the armor still isn’t holding up.
viral lodge
E3 Is closer to the playstyle of the HTC than the Jg E100, use the more accurate tank. and tiger is correct
hollow moth
Welp It's a problem, but it's pretty hard to perma track an enemy if there is teammates left @gentle wasp
You don't even have T28 HTC, how can you say with sure that E3 is a more approximate playstyle @viral lodge
viral lodge
Its not hard to tell what the playstyle of a tank is, im not an idiot. Both HTC and E3 are Assault TDs.
gentle wasp
@hollow moth so your solution to this thing having bad armor is to rely on your teammates? Weak argument to say the least.
hollow moth
The armor is not that bad if you use corners to hide most of the side and hatches, enemies can't perma track you if there is allies near you and only 2 weakspots appear when you angle if correctly on the corner (sides and mini cupolas, but that's quite hard to hit this one) @gentle wasp
And Jagdpanzer E100 have literraly an E100 hull for don't be an assault TD too, ok @viral lodge
gentle wasp
@hollow moth I literally just showed you an instance where the Htc is hiding the copulas and most of the side.
viral lodge
Jag E100 is not an assault TD..
hollow moth
Ok so what is the role that you would do with jageroo, snipe? Hahahahaahah @viral lodge
viral lodge
It is more of a sniper than an assault TD. its a 2nd line Derp support
hollow moth
So good luck sir, you'll love snipe with 5 secs of aim time, do you have it too?
gentle wasp
@viral lodge worth a peek https://www.blitzstars.com/player/eu/brazil14n
viral lodge
I already looked lol, Ive argued with Brazil14n many many times before.
gentle wasp
Ah well it explained a lot for me. Carry on.
viral lodge
lol
hollow moth
Welp stat shaming would be a problem for me if a carried about stats
gentle wasp
Your lack of good stats perfectly matches your lack of understanding so I care about stats in this situation
viral lodge
Im not saying to camp Evan, but Jg isnt an assault TD is my point.
hollow moth
Listen, I agree that I have a "lack of good stats" from a veteran eye, but that's stat shaming and I could ping a mod to deal with you, you're lucky that I don't give an F about stats @gentle wasp
viral lodge
Doesnt change the situation. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle wasp
Ok thanks for threatening me bud. You’re still wrong.
hollow moth
Ok, but it still showing only two weakspots @viral lodge
viral lodge
I use my username as my nick for a reason, anyone is free to look at my stats and post them. A weakspot is a weakspot, especially when its as easy to hit as the HTC's.
hollow moth
Yeah but again, Jagdpanzer E100 show 4 different weakspots in a normal peek, but doesn't change the fact that is have good armor @viral lodge
viral lodge
Stop comparing to the Jag E100, seriously, compare to the E3. Jg E100 is not an assault TD, HTC is one, you cannot compare a non assault TD's armour to an assault TD armour set.
Its not.
hollow moth
Which are the assault TD on your opinion
viral lodge
E3, T95, T28, HTC.
hollow moth
Only those? None else?
viral lodge
Its a small catagory, Assault TDs are TDs that play like sudo heavies. I guess T28 Defender also is an assault TD.
weak adder
in my opinion the charioteer needs an improvement in its recharge, there are other tanks like the m4 revalorise that has a very similar recharge time with the same damage, and all the good things that being a medium tank has, a 1 second improvement does not It would do him bad since before he was quite competitive but they killed him.
viral lodge
Mind you that was kinda random and Charioteer is fine (though I wouldnt mind a buff)
gentle wasp
@weak adder Charioteer has better pen, mobility, camo, and oh yea HESH. You are also comparing it to one of the best t8 meds.
hollow moth
Ok, a tip, do not camp too much if you play with Jagdpanzer E100, the non-assault TD can break expectations @viral lodge
viral lodge
I know how the Jag is meant to be played... Its not an assault TD though. Foch is more of a Med/TD hyrbrid.
hollow moth
Even if it have a great armor for it's own speed
viral lodge
It has decent armour for its speed but it isnt for assault, it gets buttered by high pen guns and prammo generally. Unlike E3.
valid lodge
What would you say the At15 is?
gentle wasp
Garbage @valid lodge
viral lodge
I forgot about the AT line ngl, AT line are all assault TDs, and bad ones.
valid lodge
I walked into that one I suppose
hollow moth
So what about E3 being easily penetrated on low plate @viral lodge
Yeah @tepid smelt
gentle wasp
Lol but yea that is an assault tank line as tank iron said. Is that what AT stands for or just a coincidence? @valid lodge
viral lodge
Lower plate, its one major weakness, its called going hulldown with its depression. @hollow moth