And it ain't exactly good at sniping either lol
It has a pathetically weak turret front so it can't facehug at all lmao
#vehicles-discussion
thick trout
brittle lance
1v1 me then if you say no @wise moth
nocturne tiger
bruh.
wise moth
Bruh, 1v1’s literally don’t mean anything @brittle lance
fringe storm
Is5 better it costs less gold boom
lean hazel
And is better still in terms of gameplay too boom
wise moth
@brittle lance Alright fine, what server are you?
nocturne tiger
is this a real tank
lean hazel
And? What’s ur point?
wise moth
@nocturne tiger No, but it looks like a prototype drawing of one of the original tanks
brittle lance
I have about 10 of them.
wise moth
@brittle lance Ok, I put up a room called 1v1
fringe storm
1.4k battles and he is a pro in 1v1 KEKW
lean hazel
I have about 10 of them.
@brittle lance
Is that also talking about the number of reroll accounts u have? Lol jk
brittle lance
No
wise moth
@brittle lance You gonna 1v1 me or not? I have a room up
brittle lance
This is my first account. And yes. My account name is Comet_277
thick trout
I wish I was on NA so I could see this 😢
lean hazel
Ok wait for me. Lemme switch onto my NA from Eu to see lol @wise moth
fringe storm
I wish I was on NA so I could see this 😢
@thick trout same Kekw
wise moth
I'm bad at 1v1's, but I'm just curious since i haven't seen an actual T-2020 before lol
brittle lance
Then you'll probably lose
thick trout
@wise moth There's bad at 1v1s and then there's bad at 1v1s for a superuni lmao don't give him hope
tiny plume
@brittle lance shut up pls
lean hazel
Then you'll probably lose
@brittle lance
Lmao ur so confident. Let’s see when u lose
brittle lance
And i just won
brittle lance
Its pretty good ngl
tiny plume
@brittle lance watch anime
wise moth
@brittle lance Let's go again
brittle lance
Mk
tiny plume
Winning one battle doesn’t mean anything
lean hazel
Honestly
thick trout
@wise moth Lol rip
wise moth
1:1
I'm still trash tho
wise moth
@lean hazel IS-5
And I hate the IS-5 too
lean hazel
Lool I don’t
brittle lance
mk
tiny plume
I won so many battles in the is5
solid trench
Got a question: wz121 or m46 patton?
lean hazel
Score? @wise moth
tiny plume
Wz121?
fringe storm
121
lean hazel
@solid trench Tier 9 against a tier x? That’s hardly fair lol
solid trench
Sry....wz121 vs m48 patton
fringe storm
Still 121
solid trench
👍
tiny plume
Leopard is still a good medium right?
wise moth
@lean hazel 4:1 my favor
brittle lance
Your camping cap tho
tiny plume
@brittle lance then push him smh
lean hazel
hahaha as I suspected. Hard man trying to challenge someone to a 1vs1 and saying they will win but then losing 4-1. I feel sorry for them @wise moth
tiny plume
lol
lean hazel
He prbably be sitting in a training rooms beating like 30 percent nubs and now he think he pro at 1vs1 lol. Then proceeds to lose to an actual decent player
brittle lance
Dude
wise moth
I've learned my lesson after the 1st match. If I can't win in a facehug, I'm just going to use my brain instead
lean hazel
👏
wise moth
And once again, 1v1's are completely meaningless
brittle lance
Stop camping your high ground. thats all youve done
fringe storm
That’s the difference between a 30% player and decent one
wise moth
@brittle lance I literally jumped off the high ground that game...
brittle lance
In the end you got on it again
lean hazel
Someone is hella salty and be looking for excuses lol
wise moth
Unless you're complaining about me backing up onto a slope to gain more gun depression. I'm going to keep doing that because it's the only way I can gurantee I can pen you
brittle lance
Yeah. That mean that this tank is highly better bc you cant pen
wise moth
In a facehug....
brittle lance
wanna do a sniper battle in it?
lean hazel
Hahaha a sniper battle. This guy mental
viral lodge
If you lost you lost, if you cant force the enemy to fight on the terms you want then its not a valid way of fighting.
lyric oriole
That's the truth right there
brittle lance
I mean
thick trout
As Positive said 1v1s mean nothing except for peoples ego 🤷♀️
wise moth
The only reason I can't pen you in a facehug is because IS-5 doesn't have the gun depression to hit your hull, so I can only hit your turret @brittle lance
viral lodge
What was the IS-5 fighting?
brittle lance
2020
vestal nacelle
ah yes, the tank with a stock ST-I turret
wise moth
It isn't. I've penned you in every sidescrape except one
wise moth
I never sidescrape because it's just asking to get yourself penned for no reason
Only tank I sidescrape in is the Maus
brittle lance
You cant face hug me, and thats what a is tank is for. And you have to have the high ground to win.
thick trout
@brittle lance It has 80mm on the side with no extremely angled segments but the IS5 has 80/120 as well as the extreme angled part.
If you think tanks are only for facehugging then you need help
wise moth
IS tanks are about the turret armor and speed. Facehugging ability is nice, but it's not necessary, and if I were in a non IS tank, I could probably pen you in a facehug @brittle lance
viral lodge
T-2020 is absolutely useless in a face hug vs any tank with any decent depression.
brittle lance
Not really
wise moth
@brittle lance Here, I have a T32. Facehug me, and lets find out what happens.
thick trout
Any tank without HEAT prammo is going to go through your turret like butter, and that's assuming they don't have decent AP pen @brittle lance
brittle lance
I can beat a is6 and is5 when face hugging
viral lodge
So, both of those are mediocre tanks
brittle lance
And a lowe sometimes
viral lodge
Lowe if the player is any good would crush a T-2020.
solid gate
hey- im just wondering if i should get the PZIV or the hetzer- im an agressive support sniper soooo idk
wise moth
@brittle lance Yeah, I crashed
@brittle lance Exit if you haven't managed to already
10/10 update WG
brittle lance
That happended with me
lyric oriole
@solid gate I would Say Pz. IV, the whole E 100 line is great right now
wise moth
I came back and I was like "how am I not dead" lol
brittle lance
Wotb servers have been acting up. Yesterday games were forzen. and today is crashes
solid gate
ive been very surprised with pz line, its a very fun tank.. i just heard on the forums in the beginning the PZ IV is hard
brittle lance
I thought it was unfair to kill a afk player in a 1v1
lyric oriole
Stock Pz. IV isn't that bad nowadays, back in 2016 and before yeah
solid gate
but the hetzer doesnt seem that much better with the huge speed loss
alright ill go for it, on a separate note i hope people dont downvote me when i accidentally run into them in the game
lyric oriole
Hetzer isn't in a good spot right now, the Jadgpanzer E 100 is ok right now and the grille 15 is just bad, so I would advise you to wait on the German Tank Destroyers
viral lodge
What tank you drive wont get you downvoted..
solid gate
whats the best country you think?
untold dirge
after i recently got my t54 ltwt, it feels like it's not that armored and i cant take advantage of the hull down, it's really sluggish the dpm is pretty trash, the turret can easily be penned. I really need help on this one
brittle lance
im done now
wise moth
@brittle lance Welp, in a strange turn of events, it looks like you're the one who can't pen me in a facehug in a T32 😆
viral lodge
@solid gate There is no "best" country, there are strong lines and the T10 meta does shift around.
gentle wasp
@untold dirge it’s still a light tank so don’t rely on the armor. Hull down is not the best strategy, the gun, turret armor, and gun depression is not good enough for it
brittle lance
Yeah the armor is troll on t32. But still face hugging t2020 is pretty good
untold dirge
so, is there any specific playstyle that i have to play with while using the t54 ltwt?
viral lodge
Quite sure T-2020 lacks the armour to face hug any tank with more than 6 depression.
brittle lance
What should i do with this?
wise moth
I'm just not familiar enough with the turret armor profile yet @brittle lance
The cheeks are pennable, but it's hard to tell where they are because of the spaced armor, but I'll learn in time
@brittle lance Buy a Maus. Maaaauuuuuussssss
brittle lance
Yeah shoot my gun mantle, or to the right or left
gentle wasp
@untold dirge bully meds/lights. You have above average alpha and armor to compete with them, then use speed to flank the rest because your gun is not good enough to fight them straight up
lyric oriole
@untold dirge you should be playing as a medium tank support because you have the alpha for it.
The armor is still good on T-54 Lightweight, but you shouldn't depend on it
untold dirge
im confused, should i be playing as an agressive light tank with a mix of med playstyle or should i play it like a traditional light tank (spotting, supporting team)?
solid gate
im so glad that this game ranks teammates based on damage over kills because i dont care when people finish off tanks for me, and i enjoy support more now
wise moth
@untold dirge Play it like a light tank with a bad gun. And don't believe anyone who says your armor is good. It's not
lyric oriole
You should be filling the scout role normally, but in combat you should be a support to your medium tanks against mediums and lights
viral lodge
@untold dirge Its a light tank bully and a support vs any other type of tank.
gentle wasp
@untold dirge aggressive light, but you can really do both. You have the camo and speed to flank/scout but you also have decent alpha and armor to fight meds.
untold dirge
okay, thanks for all the replies i feel like i can conquer the world now
fast compass
Just laugh it off whenever you get a bounce. They will happen often just can't rely on them
Bouncing gets reds super angry
gentle wasp
Lol good luck out there
untold dirge
thanks i'll do my best
solid gate
does this game get harder once you get to like the IVth edition of tanks?
hollow belfry
?
solid gate
am i going to have to learn strategy? cause i really dont wanna do that, i just wanna stay in the back with my and my rocks and bushes and hit tanks
gentle wasp
It gets slightly more difficult when you go up any tier. If you like playing like that you should stay below t5 it sounds like @solid gate
solid gate
yeah i like that i can control my difficulty based on what tank i choose to play with
hollow belfry
You are going to face way stronger tanks and smarter (sometimes) opponents. It needs a lot more thinking imo. I still don’t enjoy lower tiers. I prefer playing T7-10
strange thicket
@hollow belfry t6 is pretty good too
It is way less frustrating and you can easily carry there
And bad teammates don't affect the result that much
I personally love spamming the y5 firefly in that tier
After a losing streak in the e50 i switched to playing leopta and y5 firefly(mostly)
gentle wasp
I really like t6. Maybe it is stat padding but it is really balanced and enjoyable
hollow belfry
Might rebuy a few T6s for fun. Been mostly in T7 these days, refining my Tiger I stats.
solid gate
i feel like at the early stage batte awareness from everyone is non existent, because id just be all the way on the left of enemy tanks and hit their soft spots (usually the tracks or the side of their cannon thing) and they won't react whatsoever
almost like tunnel vision
tiny plume
k
hollow belfry
It's normal. At lower tiers you will meet very few experienced players.
solid gate
Excelsior is now cheeper than the special packet...
hollow belfry
I'd probably like the Excelsior to have more side armor
It literally has over 3 times more armor at the rear than at the sides
strange thicket
Few people load prammo in that tier so your front is fine and very usable
neat nimbus
if i sell a tank with a rare camo would the camo be lost?
ember mesa
Could we add the ZiS-30?
gentle wasp
@neat nimbus no
neat nimbus
i meant a tech tree tank
tulip edge
@neat nimbus tanks retain camos that were unlocked even if you sell them
pallid cove
I just got the e25 and completely rekt a full health t29 all by myself
hollow belfry
E25 is a great tank
pallid cove
Yes it is also hard to play
hollow belfry
The speed is hilarious, I love chasing lights in it. Excellent camo aswell.
pallid cove
Yes
tulip edge
I’ll probably get it next time it’s sold.
I have played it on pc though.. 😆
pallid cove
Another tank I love is the Pz 4/5 tier 5
tulip edge
A lot of the mid tier German tanks are quite nice to play
neat nimbus
what about the stridvagn 74a2
hollow belfry
I should rebuy my Panther. Already having loads of fun in the Jagdpanther and Tiger I.
pallid cove
Yes I have strv 74a2 it has amazing dpm
tulip edge
Panther is my favourite tier 7, even before it was buffed. Also think it’s one of the best looking tanks in the game and historically. Going from it to the panther II was a bit disappointing
neat nimbus
is a worth get the is 6 or the buff is almost null
pallid cove
Only thing is the tank before the panther is bad and hard to grind
tulip edge
The buff is a bit insignificant to the is6. The turret roof is still a disaster on that tank
solid gate
E25 is a mosquito. It's so annoying
neat nimbus
i think im fine for now with the t-34-3 and the heavy t34, lowe, fcm 50 t
hollow belfry
Both guns are pretty bad and the mobility is kind of mediocre seeing it's armor and gun@tulip edge
tulip edge
If you have a t34 and Lowe, then you are in a great spot for tier 8 @neat nimbus
hollow belfry
Hopefully a day left and I'll get my Pantera. Those discounts are coming right on time
tulip edge
I personally would recommend you save your gold unless you really like the t34, play it a lot and really want the attachment.
Also hello fellow Spanish speaker
strange thicket
The attachment is just a useless cosmetic
You are wasting your gold
neat nimbus
well camo doesnt help in snow maps does it?
strange thicket
Camo works in all maps
tulip edge
The normal camos are specific to each type of environment. If you buy special camos they are universal to all maps
neat nimbus
then i have two real warrior certificates
tulip edge
Also, how come you load so much HE
tulip edge
I have no idea what that camo is, but if there is a certificate for it then I am certain it’s universal and you can apply it to all 3 camo slots for the environments
neat nimbus
@tulip edge this camo you obtain after 30 victories in realistic mode
strange thicket
Yes it works in all environments
neat nimbus
i have crimson fury but i reserve that one for other tier 8
tulip edge
Rad, any camo that you see in that section of that picture you sent is universal to all environments.
If you scroll to the bottom of the camos to the normal, cheap ones, you will notice that those camos change with each different environment
strange thicket
How is the churchill mark 4 holding up (premium tank)
If i didn't mess up the name
neat nimbus
does this tank have good camo masking?
strange thicket
Yes
Generally low profile and small light tanks have good camo
neat nimbus
because that crimson fury camo is going to be on that tank once i get it
solid gate
Worth it for credit grind?
hollow belfry
not really imo. the tank is fairly powercrept
neat nimbus
i like the resolute camo for the action X
solid gate
I prefer the morpho camo but I like the resolute name more
neat nimbus
Is based on something the resolute camo?
solid gate
Idk
neat nimbus
Looks too post war to me
proven vale
How do i use this tank?
strange thicket
Side scrape
Use your amazing gun
Dont go headon targets
And also you can fairly hulldown in it
wary beacon
well lets say its not the best at ss but that front plate is super troll and same story with the turret
solid gate
Ok the 20 pounders should have 215 alpha per shot. That puts them at 5 less than the Panther II’s 88mm and 10 less than the 90mm guns. Also realistically the 75mm guns should have 5 less alpha than 76(.2)mm guns which have 5 less than any 77mm guns. It would work. My system anyway.
bleak abyss
The jg e 100 needs a special camo, change my mind
solid gate
@bleak abyss What camo would you give it? Nothing too outlandish please.
supple coyote
@solid gate @bleak abyss what about something like this (but for the jg e 100 obviously)
Sorry for the cruddy picture, google sucks
solid gate
@supple coyote Hmmmm. I’m not sure. Hard to imagine.
supple coyote
Maybe that’s a good legendary panther 1 camo 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
solid gate
Maybe
supple coyote
Idk, that’s just a historically accurate camo, which I personally think are dope as hell and way cooler than the fake looking ones
solid gate
Well it might work on Panther but on StuG E 100 I’m not too sure.
supple coyote
This is a cool look
hushed shadow
Without the thing over the tracks it looks ugly
supple coyote
Ah yeah that’s just a model on eBay lmao
I’m sure it’s supposed to based on a prototype or something
hushed shadow
That’s the Jageru right?
elder flume
Guys. Is the Pantera ann. worth keeping?
gentle wasp
it is up to you. good tank but if you need the gold go ahead and sell it. I am keeping it because I don't need gold right now, and I like how it looks.
solid gate
Yes, it's a solid tank for tier VI. Of course it isn't going to be OP like other premium/collector tanks, but it is a good tank. I would also recommend keeping it, because this is the only chance you get to have it (a 6 year b day only comes once). I average 2k+ dmg in it but I guess keeping it and using it depends on your playstyle.
viral lodge
it is up to you. good tank but if you need the gold go ahead and sell it. I am keeping it because I don't need gold right now, and I like how it looks.
Same for me, I see no point selling it before you need the gold, it will also help stop me from spending gold randomly.
solid gate
Why do different tanks have different numbers and fonts on the upgrade section?
Please @ me if you know 🙂
steel bear
What equipment do you guys run on the T-62A
edgy dune
@solid gate like how ?
solid gate
Check the font, 1 is blue, some are silver and all of them have different numbers under the upgrade
steel bear
Or is it just preference
woven stone
Blue means collector tanks
steel bear
Gold Premium
woven stone
The silver ones are regular tech tree tanks
edgy dune
@steel bear i'm using on my type59
I.L,L,L
II.L,R,R
III.L,L,R
edgy dune
yeah hull armor kind a work tho
But i'm always try to be in front side on the battle so i dont need shell velocity
solid gate
@solid gate the blue font is a collector tank silvers are normal tech tree tanks
Ty
Also p44 is a different model than p43 not an upgrade
steel bear
True
solid gate
Also p44 is a different model than p43 not an upgrade
@solid gate
Did I say it wasn’t?
What you said earlier seems to imply that unless your talking about the Tier/Roman numerals
Or opening the upgrade tabs and seeing the tanks full name
Nah, I just meant each tank I look under had different numbers underneath it
gentle wasp
Yea that is your xp amount
solid gate
I learnt today that the 149000 credit I have on my leopard can’t be used to help me get a progetto 65 😦
Sad 😔
kindred bone
y5 ELC or Firefly is it worth it ?
solid gate
Nope
kindred bone
should i wait for smth better than those available in general? (i have some gold)
solid gate
Yeah save up for something better
solid gate
^^^thats a lie don’t buy it
I have fully upgraded this tank, and have invested into crew skill (I can’t invest anymore because it says I have 0 credits to give). What do I do with these upgrade credits? I heard you can’t use them on other tanks. Also it didn’t change the amount of credits i have to upgrade when I invested into the crew skills.
@solid gate How do you not have the Player(s) “role” too?
They just build up you can’t spend them on anything else @solid gate if you have gold you can convert the exp that builds up on all your tanks to free exp
Ah Ah 😦. I have 149k credits on my tier 5 leopard XD 🔫
sharp spindle
I'm tempted to sell my P.43 collecter to boost along my progress to the VK 100.01. And i don't mean outright converting the gold to silver, maybe buying a premium like the Excelsior with it. Is that a good idea?
paper lotus
No
solid gate
Well it is worth 1200 gold but I wouldn’t spend a portion of that on a T5 since I personally don’t play T5 anymore
@sharp spindle Not necessarily.
paper lotus
I hate the excelsior
solid gate
Excelsior is better since the buff. I wonder if they buffed the traverse or something too. It actually does seem faster than it used to be.
sharp spindle
Doesn't it have more rear than side armour?
solid gate
@sharp spindle That doesn’t mean anything.
sharp spindle
I am quite tempted to sell the P.43 for the VK.
solid gate
They just build up you can’t spend them on anything else @solid gate if you have gold you can convert the exp that builds up on all your tanks to free exp
@solid gate whyyyyyyy. Why :(. I’m so close to a progetto 65 and I can’t afford it, but I have all these useless credits on other tanks?!?
Having more rear armor than side armor is not a good thing in my opinion. Sides are longer than the rear to an extent and having weak sides is just bad.
sharp spindle
But I am only 400k-300k credits away from the 100.01.
solid gate
@solid gate You don’t earn credits on tanks. That’s combat XP. Credits go in a pool not on individual tanks.
I mean combat xp
You can only use combat XP on elite tanks for crew skills or converting into Free XP.
kindred bone
guys i want a prem tank for farming, i have already su100Y but do u recommend smth more fun ? i was thinking Y5 os a good option !
solid gate
You can only use combat XP on elite tanks for crew skills or converting into Free XP.
@solid gate
I tried using the crew skills but the number of combat xp didn’t go down?
@kindred bone Y5s aren’t that great.
gentle wasp
@kindred bone I second that ^^^
sharp spindle
Are the T5's in the prem shop any good at making credits?
solid gate
@solid gate You have to have elite status on the tank. Also I mean crew skills not crew training to 100%.
kindred bone
so do u recommend smth for farming ?
gentle wasp
Nah you are pretty much wasting your time with t5 prems. Save a little more and get a good t6 @sharp spindle
@kindred bone depends on your play style
solid gate
@kindred bone You’d better get something like T34 or Löwe.
kindred bone
@gentle wasp i‘m more to heavies and mediums
sharp spindle
I loved the T34, it's amazing if you can get it hulldown.
candid oar
solid gate
Unless you aren’t at tier 8 yet, yeah.
sharp spindle
What the frick.
gentle wasp
@kindred bone good Meds would be Bromwell, Rudy, T-34-85 Victory, Pz IV S...
candid oar
solid gate
@gentle wasp Not T-34-85 Victory. Be better off enriching T-34-85.
gentle wasp
@solid gate nah. Victory is cheap, makes amazing credits, has a nice gun, and looks super good
solid gate
But Pz IV S, Rudy, and Cromwell B are good.
sharp spindle
Should I research the engine on the VK 100 first?
solid gate
@gentle wasp That third one is not entirely accurate. It’s like running T-34-85 with the first 85mm. The penetration is weak.
@sharp spindle Uh do you have the top gun yet?
@solid gate to explain the crew skills past level 5 on crew skills you have to use credits to finish training levels
gentle wasp
@solid gate if you can manage the pen the DPM is better. And it should be noted that enriched 34-85 makes 151%, Victory is 182%
sharp spindle
@solid gate No, but I can with the 50k free exp from the anniversary event. I also have 20k free exp right now.
solid gate
@gentle wasp I know T-34-85 still makes less. Also the dpm doesn’t drop that much between the 2 guns. But I wouldn’t recommend the T-34-85 Victory to a newbie.
gentle wasp
@solid gate I would. It is a good all around tank, fun and makes bank. Same thing with the Rudy but a tier higher.
solid gate
@sharp spindle You better get the gun first. Then get the engine.
sharp spindle
Alright, thanks for the advice.
solid gate
@gentle wasp Eh the Cromwell you mentioned is better. Faster, better gun depression, and another good gun with better penetration.
gentle wasp
@solid gate agreed, I also prefer the Cromwell B, but he said he is a heavy and medium driver so I threw in something with a bit of armor
solid gate
I can handle T-34-85 Victory I guess because I played Type 58 and managed well enough in it. Even Aced that thing. But for a newbie I don’t think the Victory is the best premium at tier 6.
gentle wasp
Fair enough
solid gate
Well I’ll give that Russian mediums have troll armor (except T-43) so it could work. For a tier 6 heavy that’s a premium that’d be hard to tell him.
gentle wasp
Yea for heavies you might as well go up to t8
solid gate
Yeah. That tier is chalk full to premium heavies.
candid oar
lol just war thunder
solid gate
War Thunder is a way different game.
solid gate
Wargaming give me/us OF 40 Mk 1 and Jaguar and I’d drop everything and go for those 2 tanks.
cosmic jackal
heyyy wg how about 4202 buff
vague palm
Is the vk 72 tank good? I’m on the tier 9 of that tank rn I just was trying to get it because of the good armor from the front and the firepower like usual
solid gate
this is just peak bruh for war thunder
@vague palm yes definitley worth it. i'm averaging 64% winrate and 2.85k avg damage per game. some people love it some people hate it. but i love it
the tier 10 is far better than the tier 9 in brawling anyways
vague palm
@guilt#6969 aight
tulip sail
Right after the t-35
long zealot
Also tsk 20 for blitz
tulip sail
I just want the M-60
long zealot
Also ms1 and ft
tulip sail
Those were removed bc they dont fit the bill anymore
teal pumice
How do I post a Avatar picture
Like it?
But for a new premium vehicle idea take a look at this
gentle wasp
@teal pumice #725691164425977977
neat nimbus
why i cant access to the channel
alpine notch
Random question: Should a Maus II exist in this game?
earnest dune
Very good drawing
solid gate
Drawing is neat the stats are laughable
earnest dune
Looks like a B1 tank
teal pumice
ITS A combination of Poland and French
earnest dune
Oh great
teal pumice
T15APL-interdependence
solid gate
.
teal pumice
TMS-A561
earnest dune
Is it good
earnest dune
Adding nuclear shells would be great
earnest dune
Im just tier V
teal pumice
Im VII
earnest dune
Im turning tier 7 on german but i switched to american tanks because german heavies are so slow
teal pumice
#Relatable
earnest dune
But they can't hit the front of a T1 heavy
teal pumice
I rushed it
He looks like the X-Mas cat on WotB
Well anyway
I made it in 5mins
hollow moth
Pfffff buff kranvagn, too weak turret
solid gate
You know what’s stupid? When you struggle to hit the weak points of a M6A2E1 while playing VK 100 but he keeps penning you.
broken turtle
should i go for t37?
solid gate
Bulldog is getting buffed next update so yeah
tidal atlas
solid gate
Bulldog is getting buffed next update so yeah
@solid gate y tho
No idea why it’s been doing ok it’s gonna do even better soon
Should buff Churchill 7, is god awful. I luv bp tho
ocean nebula
I have 8k gold should I get the Lowe that I want it wait a while until I get like 20k gold then buy a tier 10?
strange thicket
Get a lowe if you want to print credits
It is an investment really but it is not amazing it is great
peak ferry
I am an really old player
@sour spindle
Old like boomer old? 60's?
solid gate
IS7 has wayyyy too much DPM
boreal harbor
Did something happen to the Asia server because all of the players from Asia had their records removed
I took the top photo about 3 days ago and I took the bottom one today
cursive vigil
How to play conqueror with stock gun? It's so hard penetrating T9-10 and also can't get much damage
granite crystal
The P40 would be a nice IV addition to the Pan-European tech tree
@broken turtle the T37 is pretty fun and competitive, especially w the autoloader
broken turtle
mmmm but my friend recommend me to go the chaffee for the fun t49 and atgm with sheridan. Is it okey?
solid gate
How is the AMX M4 49? Is it really worth 7.5k gold?
reef crescent
@cursive vigil yeah its pretty terrible, u can either try to play it like the caernarvon and stay off the frontlines or just give up and free xp it lol
solid gate
No the premium, i forgot the exact name lol
keen escarp
I like how they nerf A 20 but not Covenanter
broken turtle
to put them in the pass
pulsar yarrow
I am looking for a prenium tank to grind credits...
Any recommendations?
steep current
Get the current event tank it's free
boreal shell
Lowe if you’re willing to shell out the money for it. Otherwise the ann.
hollow quiver
wait for something like a 252U or chrysler K or some other good tier 8 when it comes out for gold. Lowe is just a credit printer so your choice.
ashen monolith
Does anyone know when the Super conq is hitting the stores?
solid gate
how to play amx 12 t
meager sierra
Clip and run
@solid gate u basically have to spot in the start, find an opening for flanking, flank some turretless td, and then run until ur clip is reloaded and repeat
acoustic night
Tier 6 stug? Maybe called the "Stug IV 75"
untold dirge
rip credits
solid gate
When the new Swedish tech tre come?
acoustic night
Sir. Where the f[oof] are your other tanks?
small quarry
Is there anyone who is trying to get to amx 50 b , but facing serious pain as the whole tier list is filled with crap ? 😔
acoustic night
The french guys did not have good tanks
haughty forge
@untold dirge only 1 tank? Bruh
small quarry
I don't know why I switched to French from German. The time I wasted I could probably have unlocked a tier 9 in German tech tree.
fast compass
50b is a wonderful line. Idk what you are on about
acoustic night
The french heavy tanks only got worse
fast compass
Bdr, arl, m4 45(ok yeah that is meh). And the autoloaders... Just amazing
acoustic night
They have no armor.... They are menat to be a heavy tanks...
fast compass
So? They are not traditional heavies
small quarry
It is a serious main, no tank there has speed or armour . It's hard . 50b seems to be great but the others , I don't think they are game changer
reef forge
fast compass
What tank are you struggling with?@small quarry
small quarry
I am struggling my way to amx 50 b. I am kinda rushing (don't know it's right to do) . I am not maxing out the tanks so, it is little hard to control them at normal stage.
fast compass
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfTanksBlitz/comments/b4xqp7/amx_50b_tech_tree_tuesday/
Alright have a read through this@small quarry
small quarry
Ok
nocturne tiger
researched Tiger 2.... And need 1,304,627 credits more to buy it..
hollow belfry
I hope you have some free exp @nocturne tiger
nocturne tiger
well I'm close to the prize of 50k free exp
broken sentinel
a friend of mine has somewhere around 1.6mil free XP lol
he has all of the tech trees finished, so he has nothing to spend it on
nocturne tiger
what the heck
hollow belfry
Tiger II with the stock turret is a pain. Grinding for the K.w.K L/68 using the first 10,5 is manageable.
lyric copper
but why would you stay on the stock turret
hollow belfry
People who don’t plan their grinds and find themselves without any free exp and a stock tank
solid gate
6 ideas to improve T2020 , upgradable to auto loader 3 round magazine , upgrade le engine . Upgradable optics turret camouflage ,improveble tracks and last but not least add a shell deflector on the hull to make it hard to kill
hollow belfry
Stop complaining about the T-2020 being so bad. Instead of buying it just get an IS-5 for 1500 gold as it’s a better tank anyways
serene crypt
@untold dirge why one tank?
untold dirge
im broke as hell
nocturne tiger
I too was once broke to the point I had to go back to tier 3
and oh boy I never liked that time
untold dirge
oof, how'd it go?
untold dirge
rip wr
elfin orbit
I remember going to t3 ti grind credits for my first t10
My little T-15 got quite a lot of playtime
untold dirge
i should try that to earn money for a t9
shell forum
How good is the E 75 TS? I saw online it's pretty meh by reviewers
gentle wasp
Just that, pretty meh. The gun is good but only 310 alpha on that platform is a struggle
formal axle
Hello
shell forum
Damn...ok
untold dirge
just asking, but does this guide still apply to the current patch?
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/92295-t-54-ltwt-guide/
shell forum
To me, yes
untold dirge
oh okay, thanks
broken turtle
Is tiger 131 good? I think it probably not
woeful pumice
It’s a vk36 in hard mode
gentle wasp
It is mediocre
broken turtle
so it's bad? and not fun?
shell forum
I just want a good high tier premium to make cash...ugh....
gentle wasp
I wouldn’t say it’s too much fun. More of a collector’s tank
broken turtle
allright, 600 gold doesn't worth it bruh
verbal pier
i have 1400 gold, enough to buy a tier 5 premium, what do i get?
livid yacht
Watch some ads and buy the IS-5
verbal pier
already have
gentle wasp
None of the t5 prems are worth it, save up a little more and wait for a good sale on a t6
shell forum
Since idk which premiums on sale/bundle is good, mine if someone enlighten me? I prefer to avoid T6 and lower...
gentle wasp
E25 is a good deal
shell forum
That's all? Ok
solid gate
E25 is light tankhunter , fast and a nasty sting , could act as spotter and as to
But weak armor
TD
shell forum
I was expecting more tanks than just an E25
gentle wasp
@shell forum Y5 tanks are definitely a pass. Excelsior is meh. T-2020 is crap and way overpriced. Amx is a good tank but idk if you want a t8. Say no to the crates. I guess Pz B2 would be a good deal if you enjoy t4.
verbal pier
pzb2 isnt that good
gentle wasp
It gets the preferential MM but yea seems boring
shell forum
Oh I would take T8. I did said I want to avoid T6
solid gate
Perhaps the game could add B model TigerJäger to the game as a premium/ collectible tier IX just for the style
tiny plume
No
shell forum
I'm fine with 7 & 8. I need more gameplay high tier anyway
gentle wasp
Oh nvm I read it wrong then. Yea Amx is a solid tank but the E75 TS is not that good.
ISU is pretty good, insane gun, but the 2sh is bad.
solid gate
The scorpion G should be perma for sale , awsome thing
gentle wasp
It’s too good to be on sale all the time
solid gate
I saw people complaining about Jagdpanzer E100. I'm playing with it, the tank is fine. Got no problem with those high speed lights.
restive ravine
Just want to know, someone advise me to buy AMX AC 48 or not ? AMX AC 46 is horrible should I continue to search his next tanks ? Or heavy french tank is better to play ? I have the arl 44 too and his is good
solid gate
Keep. Foch is awesome
jagged linden
T-2020 is one of the worst Tier 8 prems with Vk. 168.01 P. And he's waaaay too overpriced. Y5 tanks are correct. Panzer B2 is the worst tank I've ever played...
restive ravine
Keep. Foch is awesome
@solid gate ok thanks 😁
valid abyss
A good tier X light that may be interesting to add in-game..Fyi: (A tank designed to replace the sheridan in real life) 105mm gun,It's U.S made but the U.S did not care to buy it, only Thailand bought the tank...I live across a military camp so I see it parked everyday >_<
No crazy composite armor ...just good-old angled design(it's a light tank so obviously no armor) "Stingray light tank"
shell forum
You guys somehow peak my interests in Foch, go on?
jagged linden
Foch 155 has barrel gun... EVERY French tier 10 have one of those guns
fast compass
Foch. Out yolos the yolowagon
strange thicket
@shell forum Y5 tanks are definitely a pass. Excelsior is meh. T-2020 is crap and way overpriced. Amx is a good tank but idk if you want a t8. Say no to the crates. I guess Pz B2 would be a good deal if you enjoy t4.
@gentle wasp the y5 firefly is amazing but i don't think it is worth that horrid amount of gold
It is a serious main, no tank there has speed or armour . It's hard . 50b seems to be great but the others , I don't think they are game changer
@small quarry wdym
They sre mobile enough to go with the mediums
The line is def not bad
tulip sail
It's just not a conventional playstyle
fast compass
Yeah that is why i just pointed him to a well written guide to the line
gentle wasp
@strange thicket no it isn’t. Bromwell does it way better.
strange thicket
Yes it is
It is amazing
Plus it was free
I will take it over bromwell
And brom doesn't even do it THAT much better @gentle wasp
gentle wasp
@strange thicket it is not amazing. The pen is bad, it loses alpha on prammo, and it isn’t even that fast
strange thicket
The pen is bad? Lmfao
gentle wasp
Sorry what else would you call 14th out of 20 t6 meds, and 12th on prammo with terrible alpha
strange thicket
Mate
Have you played the tank?
Pen is enough to go through most of what you will face
Besides
Every tank loses alpha on its prammo except for stuff like su-100y and isu-130
Dunno why ya complaining
The reload on it is 4.8
The tank is my fav tier 6 lol
It just does its job well
It is not worth that much gold tho i will admit
solid gate
doesn't have gold
gentle wasp
Mate that is an opinion that the pen is good enough, it is just facts that the pen is bad. This one loses more than pretty much anything, it has worst in class prammo alpha.
strange thicket
@solid gate already has the tank
gentle wasp
Yea on paper the DPM is good but face anything with decent armor and you’re screwed. Forget about t7
solid gate
sad noises
I'm still at tier 6 mostly with one tier 8
strange thicket
@gentle wasp funny enough the accuracy will allow you to aim for weakspots
I dunno mate it is just been amazing whenever i play it
I don't mind getting uptiered in it
I can still use the gun dep to get my shots off
gentle wasp
Yea the accuracy is decent but if i am going to play a paper tank I would rather have something faster to get into better positions to set off shots.
strange thicket
Well it is not that slow either
It is decently mobile
I am not saying it is better than bromwell btw
I am just saying the tank is good(great for me)
gentle wasp
Especially when you are uptiered you don’t have the best speed to get on a flank and you have a bad gun.
Well yea I am glad you do well in it but it is still a mediocre tank at best
solid gate
@granite crystal
I'm already terrified of the smasher, don't encourage a buff.
viral lodge
lol
granite crystal
@broken turtle I personally find the Chaffee a bit less fun to play, and tanks such as the Vk 28.01 do the same thing but better. The T37 is just a bit of a refresher, and sets you up well for the Bulldog play style
@solid gate it needs to be at least 325mm for it to truly be competitive
solid gate
Dude I played with the ARL V39 yesterday, and in 4 consecutive games I got HE'd immediately. 2 of the times it was a Smasher.
gentle wasp
You shouldn’t put that poor thing in spots where the smasher can get it
solid gate
I was still moving to said spot when I got yeeted
granite crystal
the V39’s only good when it can snipe
lethal isle
hello
granite crystal
anime pfp get out
strange thicket
Please don't
I despise that anime lmao
solid gate
It introduced me to anime, so I like it.
plucky shale
@lethal isle u got anime russian pfp here is a tank for u
solid gate
IS chassis with KV-2 turret?
lethal isle
i have the kv2. it sucks to play. but when you ht i is delicious xaxaxa
solid gate
I love the KV2 especially when I run into a light tank
lethal isle
yes xaxa like the leopard
solid gate
why are you running
why are you running
Leopard rammed into me once and bounced all of it's shots.
I then proceeded to ammo rack his ass
lethal isle
XAXAXA
solid gate
I've ammo racked way too many people in the VK 0.01
lethal isle
i just get the E75
and i hate this. i just wnat the E100
i will get 50k free xp plus my 73k free xp and ill have 123k free xp xaxax
coral prawn
Oh
strange thicket
E75 is good
If you are complaining about it then you probably don't know how to drive it
Did you get the top gun if i may ask?
karmic nymph
It’s trash stock, so slow
strange thicket
But great fully upgraded
Besides if you hate it then you will hate the e100
orchid nymph
Should I buy the amx m4 49?
lyric oriole
No, it's basically a worse tiger 2, it's not really good at all.
orchid nymph
Just looking for a fun tank that make decent credits
boreal harbor
Lowe is pretty good
gentle wasp
Overrated and not that fun
lyric oriole
If you want a fun tank that makes decent credits in tier 8 I might suggest Chimera, Lekpz M41 90mm, or Skorpion.
Löwe Isn't as good as people claim. It's pretty boring.
orchid nymph
Am looking for the scorp
gentle wasp
@orchid nymph right now the E25 is on sale, decent earner and amazingly fun tank. Also a good bundle
fast compass
If you want to make credits and still enjoy. Play a tank that you will enjoy. Like light tnks? German Bulldog and so on
Tier 8 premiums will always make decent credits
orchid nymph
I want want to spend anymore money. I got 7500 gold to spend
karmic nymph
Just save up and wait a bit more
orchid nymph
So maybe Black Friday or Christmas?
karmic nymph
Maybe, or just when a good deal comes. Like the 252u deal for 8.5k gold
orchid nymph
Not looking for another IS clone
lyric oriole
I might suggest just keep watching ads for now and save up your gold, tanks Generally come back ever 3 months
shell forum
I mean if those T8 was selling I would grab one
orchid nymph
Ahh
karmic nymph
The 252u isn’t a clone by the way, it outclasses them all, but a lot of other good tanks are available like the prog
untold dirge
should i enrich my t54 ltwt?
gentle wasp
If you enjoy it and play it a ton sure.
shell forum
Uh...no. I never find enriching a tech tree good as they can still get nerf
gentle wasp
Ltwt is not likely to get nerfed
shell forum
WG was never a company with logic
lyric oriole
They can nerf the tanks sure, but it's pretty rare that a tank gets severly nerfed in which case you shouldn't enrich it because it will be nerfed.
See Charioteer when first added
untold dirge
okay, I'll take the advice given and not enrich my t54 ltwt
lyric oriole
That's not what I was saying. I was saying don't enrich vehicles that are likely to be nerfed...
gentle wasp
And this one is not likely. Also it is a pretty unique vehicle so it is not a bad choice
untold dirge
oh my bad, but i sold my t-34-85 victory and totally regretted it
gentle wasp
You can get it back
lyric oriole
You can restore it via ticket
untold dirge
i can get it, but my economy is in the red currently (I only have 3.4k creds left)
gentle wasp
I would recommend saving up for it, the Victory is one of the better credit grinders in the game
lyric oriole
^^^
Whenever you do want to restore it, you can find that link under the pins in #general-blitz-discussion
untold dirge
okay thanks for the help
fickle iris
T14 is utter garbage for a heavy
solid gate
fickle iris
Jag is getting a nerf?
gentle wasp
They don’t plan to make such changes
fickle iris
Pretty sure wg doesn’t plan anything, nerfs and buffs are calculated by dice rolls, as is the case with T1 heavy /s
stark geode
I bought the FV201 (A45) And the other tanks the other day and there actually pretty good
shell forum
You're doing it wrong guys! Go to Blitzstar, look up worse performing and best performing tanks, slap it on the spreadsheet, and buff nerf it
WG cares shit about how it play. They care how the numbers look
gentle wasp
That is not the case either because they use numbers from the better players and chart that, and still don’t seem to pay attention to it
strange thicket
No, it's basically a worse tiger 2, it's not really good at all.
@lyric oriole looking at the armor profile it seems better?
It doesnt have that turn to butter turret like tiger 2 when loading gold
Alao 10 degrees of gun dep
gentle wasp
The turret roof/copula is still very weak
strange thicket
Oh
Alright then
gentle wasp
The hull won’t stand up to t8s or most gold shells, and you can’t angle much because of the paper sides and the little “shoulders”
hollow notch
The 10° of gun depression it what makes it still competitive with the tiger.
lyric oriole
Given how long it's been around and how few of them I see I don't believe that to be the case
loud depot
I have a question about my t22 medium tier 10
if I sell my t22 medium tier 10 collector will it be able to be restored for gold at a later date? It doesn't appear on the list to buy back but I assume it's cause it's still in my garage but i would like confirmation before I make such a huge decision
viral lodge
Why would you sell the T22 if you would just buy it back later
gentle wasp
Yea just don’t sell it mate
tulip sail
The t22 is a very good tank dont sell it
karmic nymph
You could buy it back later yes
lethal isle
i am so happy
i just het the good cannon of my E75 and this is so dangerous for the enemies
lethal isle
this was hard to get
lethal isle
now i have 70k free xp to get the E100
karmic nymph
Use the free xp to get the e100 top gun
neat nimbus
is any good to keep it? and i can use it in realistic mode?
mystic thorn
this is for tank discussion, maybe you could talk somewhere else?
calm inlet
Moderators aren't involved in customer support, and none of us speak Portuguese
west sorrel
? '-
calm inlet
Wargaming only responds in Russian and English as well, there is no support for other languages
west sorrel
okay, you answer my ticket
west sorrel
administrator answet tickets ?
calm inlet
your ticket was sent 9 minutes ago, be patient and a Wargaming customer service employee will be with you soon
west sorrel
;-;
neat nimbus
i guess i keep hope i can use for realistic mode
loud depot
For those asking whyid sell the t22 medium it is because I would like to buy one of the offers in the shop and if I will always have the t22 as an option to buy back then I don't mind temporarily letting it go
kind bluff
"temporarily"
good luck tryna scrap up the gold to get it back without opening ur wallet
pulsar sinew
🤦🏼♂️
lethal isle
administrador brasileiro tae?
@west sorrel xaxaxa wow. i was not thinkin that i could fund a brazilain here
median oak
I’m honestly flabbergasted by so many folks in this game.
@lethal isle English server. Follow the rules. You can PM him if you’d like to have a talk outside of English
loud depot
Yes temporarily I do actually get gold often and I barely play tier 10 as it is
Don't get me wrong the tank is god but I just don't play tier 10 often
kind bluff
uhhhhhh no comment
loud depot
I know what your thinking but I much prefer tier 8 over any tier
kind bluff
if u are thinking about getting the E75TS then don't cuz it's as good as a pre-buff tiger II
and pre-buff Tiger II is not everyone's cup of tea
loud depot
Not exactly
modest barn
Does anyone have tips for playing e25? I got it earlier and I'm struggling to position correctly
kind bluff
if u can snipe, snipe
if u can't, try to go up to an unsuspecting large tank and dpm the hell out of it
modest barn
Alright, thanks
shell forum
I am bias since I like my TD mobile coughW131GFTcough so I usually play 2nd/3rd line fighter
orchid nymph
What's your favorite tier 8 premium guys?
west sorrel
<@&481447501690568709> recuparacion vehicules premium 1 = 1 years ?
waxen kraken
Uh, what is a good Tier 8 Premium Tank?
hollow moth
I only had three tier 8 premiums so I don't have much tanks to base my opinion, but between M6 EXP, Löwe and FCM 50T I'd choose M6 EXP because of the gun @orchid nymph
solid gate
@west sorrel why would you ping all moderator for that...
west sorrel
i not speak english
waxen kraken
worry - no mercy
hollow moth
@west sorrel moderators don't work for WG, also the restoration bot is having problems. Now it takes around 3 or 4 hours for a simple restoration
Also use Google translator
solid gate
Here we go again
sour spindle
I need friends
naive rover
Is the WZ111 5A worth the buy?
minor mica
Anyone know when the chieftain mk.6 might come out ?
pulsar yarrow
Any recommendations for equipment on the lowe?
wise moth
@pulsar yarrow
agile crest
@wise moth lowe?
wise moth
Yeah, that’s my Löwe setup, you can see in the top left corner
agile crest
If it is, that’s one heck of a setup, i just looked at the tank in the background lol
wise moth
It’s a pretty standard setup though. That’s what I run on the majority of my tanks lol
agile crest
6 year players know the tanks they go up against
solid gate
I had this tank for a long time but I don’t remember how I got it how do you get it? Just @ me or ping me if you wanna tell
narrow rampart
You have bought it in a bundle with the tier VI Sentinel or you got it from a container
pulsar yarrow
thx positive
solid gate
how good is standard b
hard nexus
very
static canopy
The SU-122-44 is a good Premium Tank?
fast compass
it is decent
solid gate
T34-2G ft is better
static canopy
ok, but I was thinking about buying the SU-122-44 or the M6A2E1, and I can't buy both, and it's the two types of tanks that I play the most
and I don't have a tier 7 Premium Tank
dense ermine
solid gate
SU122 44 then, its like t34-2g ft but has less rof and has more armour
solid gate
(A 1958 photo of the ИС-3 Защитник in New York City, New York)
Due to rapid evolution in tank design, the 1945 Object 703 (IS-3) was losing it's strength, and designers in Factory No. 100 "Kirovskiy Works" were ordered to create a modernized version of the IS-3 due to the opposing Americans with their 120mm Gun Tank T110 heavy tank destroyer program.
In 1955 Chief Designer Александер Добройвич proposed an Electric drive motor previously used on a prototype Submersible vehicle to be the powerplant of the new tank. Giving the tank 620 horsepower at 2100 RPM.
The technical designers also took inspiration from the Kirovets-1's turret as a design for the new nicknamed "Defender" modernization program for the IS-3, coupled with the D-25T gun, Александер himself decided that the tank should feature an autoloading system, disregarding the loader and giving space for the new feature.
The new D-25TA (A for Aвтопогрузчик, autoloader in Russian) could fire at an RPM of 8 with a 30 round ammo stowage on the left side of the turret without the need of assisted loading. The 122mm shells developed were specially designed to punch through any tank during that era.
ZBM14 - An APDS shell that could penetrate armor up to 230mm in around 10 meters and 190mm in 1000m at 90 degrees with shell velocity of around 1400m/s
ZBVK6 - A HEAT shell capable of penetrating 285mm at any range within a 90 degree angle with a shell velocity of 840 m/s
UOF-741 - A HE shell which was packed with 2.4kg of explosives and could fire at a shell velocity of around 790 m/s
The first prototype was first shown at a training ground in Tunguska in 1956 where it performed a multiple series of tests ranging from submerged in water engine performance, to accuracy tests on hills ranging from 500m-2km.
After the satisfactory of these results, around 1500 of these tanks were ordered to be used in the Red Army. The tank shown in this photo was No. 1202.
tawdry forge
Is there really gonna be a 4th of July tank???
jagged linden
I don't know.
Some story for IS-3 defender ? Man, It's beautiful !
solid gate
Yeah I just made it up lol
less than 10kxp from rhm. can I have setup tips and gameplay difference from emil
you have very good camo, turret and decent mobility but absolutely no armor, play it safe from a distance and try to let your team mates take damage when you can. and generally the derp gun on it is the way to go
inland osprey
It's all about the camo and gun. You should camp in bushes early on, but if you have already familiarize yourself with its camo, you can pull off some spectacular ambushes.
solid gate
@solid gate Ok well i have the Grille and the whole line and Borsig, Waffle & Grille are all the same sort of Playstyle but ok with the Borsig, First you have a Very good camo it's ( I mean It's Amazing ) So you are really good at ambushing, but if you do get spoted then yes i hope you are behind a hard cover cause if your not you are just going to get killed so here are my tips
- You have descent mobility so you can move around fast
- Play it from a safe distance poke out Derp your enemy hard then roll back if you did get spotted and roll back by the time your reloaded then your camo would have been rested
- If your team starts pushing flanks go with them dont wait to get flanked
and 4. Play it like you would with all tds but just remember you are paper 99 out of 100 shots are gonna go through you.
So Good Luck with the Borsig and when you get the top gun on waffle your going to be laughing so hard, Anyway Happy Tanking & Good Luck in your Future Battles.
Glad i could help,
Kind Regards
Dtankshooter2091amec3 [ NA SERVER ]
@solid gate wow that's amazing. thank you so much I will read now haha 😊😊😊
Ur Welcome @solid gate
@solid gate also in terms of setup, how much equipment is worth buying, and do I need provisions and ammo ratio
and 1 more lol sorry. what should I get first tracks or gun (I already got engine)
Yes i would go for first 3 provisions if you have alot of credits go for last three and well the eqipt well is say go for camo net and the faster reload
lyric copper
gun imo, I’d run CS on the 150mm
solid gate
Lol go for gun and btw @solid gate what server u play on pla say NA
If your rich get all the @solid gate equipment as honestley its a well worth investment
Oh and ammo ratio go for 10 HE 16 Ap and 4 gold@solid gate
hollow belfry
On the Borsig I’d run CS with the 15cm/Rammer on the 12,8, defense system, camo net, supercharge, improved assembly, engine accelerator and refined gun. The last 2 aren’t an absolute need.
solid gate
@hollow belfry Cs?
hollow belfry
calibrated shells
lyric copper
moar pen for heat
solid gate
@solid gate
hollow belfry
The pen on standard ammunitions with the 15cm is pretty mediocre, using CS makes it slightly better along with a tad more HE pen (always useful) and makes the HEAT go through anything that isn’t spaced armor.
solid gate
thanks @solid gate damn those apcr are expensive tho
@solid gate umm
What server are u on@solid gate can u dm me please
I bought 5 equipment slots. also playing with a turreted td is so weird rn
@hollow belfry @solid gate thanks!
hollow belfry
you’re welcome
knotty charm
how do yall play the Jpanther?
i do a 50/50 way,not sure if thats how ure meant to do it
solid gate
Perhaps a good idea to make a collectible E100STUG to celebrate the 6th summer
It would be cool to be able to use 220 mm mortar or 172 mm pak . With HE and HEAT the mortar wil devastate 155 mm or less armor in one blow making it a hot summer
The TD play is picking good spots . Ammo I use mostly cheap . Take the other types to but HE is virtualy not much useable that’s why I take just 4 of them
knotty charm
The TD play is picking good spots . Ammo I use mostly cheap . Take the other types to but HE is virtualy not much useable that’s why I take just 4 of them
@solid gate i use he for times when i need to eat away at a enemy's health,like in a battle of attrition
but thanks for the advice !
solid hamlet
I just got E75 which should I research first? Turret or gun?
alpine notch
Go for turret first and gun afterwards
solid hamlet
Ok ty 😂 😂
alpine notch
No worries, but if you do have trouble on its maneuverability, get tracks after turret i guess
solid hamlet
Track better than engine?
alpine notch
Just unpopular thing i made few days ago, i'm throwing it here:
*New US mediums line/T95 line (starting from Tier VIII M26 Pershing)
- Tier IX T95E5 Medium (T95 Medium tank with M60 turret and Royal Ordnance L7 "T254E1" 105mm tank gun)
Branches into two tanks:
- Tier X T95E7 Medium (T95 Medium tank with M60A1/A3 turret and Royal Ordnance L7 "T254E2" 105mm tank gun)
And
- Tier X T95E4 Medium (T95 Medium tank with T95E6 turret and T210 105mm tank gun)
What do you think? 🤔
@solid hamlet For me, yes. Engine is kinda bit expensive afaik
solid hamlet
I see. Most of my tanks got no track research haha
solid gate
Which one is the 90mm @alpine notch
I know one variant has it that fires APFSDS, could have that maybe for the T9 with hella DPM.
nvm its the t95e1
alpine notch
Thats T95E2 as well @solid gate
One current underrated prems..
solid gate
We also have the E8 which fires a 120mm smoothbore
That hull could be stupid strong ngl (test bed)
alpine notch
Thats E6 wasnt it? Current tier X one
solid gate
I think it's a different gun @alpine notch
Same caliber but the E8 has a more modern 120
And in game the E6 is a heavy, all of these are medium tank prototypes.
And the E8 was a completed version of it's previous brothers.
Here's my idea.
Tier 9:
T95E1 - Comes stock with the 90mm dart gun, has great dpm and other stuff but meh dpm, upgrades to the 105mm
Tier 10:
T95E8: The only completed versions of the T95 medium tank test beds, comes with a 120mm DELTA gun, along with a more powerful engine.
alpine notch
Sounds good to be true i guess
solid gate
Or perhaps this as an interesting tank.
The test bed has an ATGM launcher uwu.
Listen I know people really don't like ATGM's, but I wouldn't mind a tank that just fires missiles only, it would kinda balance it.
alpine notch
So this T95E1 will have ability to equip M60 (either A1 or A3 turret) and a 105 mm L7?
solid gate
Yeah why not, and the T10 can be something new with a 120mm, we only got like the 121 that fires a 420 alpha.
alpine notch
Or perhaps this as an interesting tank.
The test bed has an ATGM launcher uwu.
@solid gate Isnt this from M60A2 Starship?
Btw, im not sure if T95E8 Delta was a thing, coz afaik.. T95E8 was a bit like improvement of T95E2 with 12V71T diesel engine
solid gate
@alpine notch
Detroit Diesel?!?!
alpine notch
It is? I think that its right designation
alpine notch
@solid gate I have readed that in past
solid gate
But overall, I wouldn't mind to see more T95's be added into the game
If they do, hopefully they don't make them boring af to play
boi thats a lot of nerds
If the 12V71T engine is an upgrade for any of the T95s, it better have that iconic DD roar, if not, idk.
alpine notch
@solid gate Not likely in WoT Blitz i guess, they always have generic sounds
solid gate
Damb, such a shame
solid gate
Leoprad its so slow an stupid 😡 🖕
knotty charm
ngl you need the engine upgrade for it to be at its full potential
rapid orchid
Sheridan should be M551
Not XM551 anymore
tulip sail
Why? The one we have isnt the M551
rapid orchid
Oh
The prototype one
tulip sail
Yeah the one in game is the xm551 (one of the few times they got a tanks name right)
solid gate
The Sheridan in game is the 1st prototype XM551 I think. The later prototypes and production models got rid of that funky stuff. Might be a flotation device?
Also I had a question but forgot what it was.
Why the Tiger 131 is a tier 6 but the normal Tiger 1 is a tier 7?????
I wonder if Leone hull could take OF 40 Mk 1 turret. Well I mean I believe TE said the OF 40s (or at least the mark one) were at least somewhat based off the Leone. If you did it that way then you’d have this line:
VIII - (a bit odd but works) Carro Armato M47
IX - Leone/OF 40 Mk 1
X - OF 40 Mk 2
@solid gate The guns. Tier 7 one gets the late version’s turret and gun. The 131 is an early Tiger while tier 7 Tiger is a late version.
Oh,thanks mate.@solid gate
@solid gate You’re welcome.
rapid orchid
What's leone?@solid gate
narrow rampart
Or perhaps this as an interesting tank.
The test bed has an ATGM launcher uwu.
@solid gate that is aT95 variant, ain't it?
solid gate
It’s a German/Italian project MBT @rapid orchid.
Mhm yes @narrow rampart
@narrow rampart There are so many T95 variants Martin. I think they go up to like E12 or something.
You're talking about the Europanzer project @solid gate
Also no, it goes up to E8.
@solid gate Nope. That’s not associated with the Leone really.
rapid orchid
Leopard prototypes
Show me the Leone
solid gate
Those are not leo protos.
Can u send a pic of what ur talkin about? @solid gate
@rapid orchid Just a minute.
Look already got it.
Oh and you might be right it goes up to E8 not E12 on the T95 variants. I’m just forgetting.
@solid gate That’s a Leopard dressed time look somewhat like it. Let me get a better picture.
rapid orchid
Leopard 1
solid gate
So a 1975 italian MBT
There’s it in the factory. Pulled straight from TE. No, it’s not a Leopard 1 though may look similar @rapid orchid.
rapid orchid
Ah
I see
solid gate
Also the OF 40 looks very similar to the Leone and the German Leopard but is an entirely Italian project. That’s what TE says anyway.
rapid orchid
Was it just a prototype?
solid gate
OF 40 Mk 1 here was: Mk 2 not as sure about. Also all the Mk 1s were upgraded to Mk 2s.
untold dirge
so i just started playing the french td line any tips? (im at already at s35 ca)
civic terrace
Prepare for the suffering after the s35😂
rapid orchid
Bruh
fast compass
Just snipe in tier 6 and 7. They are as soft as fresh french bread
solid hamlet
Which gun for WT auf pz iv? 15cm or 12.8?
agile crest
15cm, by a landslide
solid hamlet
😫 😫
agile crest
Why u mad?
untold dirge
what should i worry about at t6?
agile crest
A KV-2
untold dirge
oh i forgot about that
agile crest
lol
solid hamlet
It is hard choice, only got 70k free exp
agile crest
Well Play more, 15cm worth it 100% I’m at grille, the 15cm rly good
solid hamlet
Ok sir 👌 👌 I like big dmg too
So unlock 15cm first then track and 12.8 gun last right?( Already unlock engine)
solid gate
By the way you could practically make a whole line with T95 series tanks.
agile crest
So unlock 15cm first then track and 12.8 gun last right?( Already unlock engine)
@solid hamlet Uh ye, but 15 first then 12.8, track don’t really matter to me
solid gate
Or maybe I was right about T95 variants if the OTM guy is right with this list:
T95 - The original tank, with the smoothbore 90 mm Gun T208 in a fixed mount.
T95E1 - A T95 with a recoil mount and a simplified fire-control system.
T95E2 - A T95 with the M48A2 turret and the rifled 90 mm Gun M41.
T95E3 - A T95 with the T54E2 turret and the rifled 105 mm Gun T140E3.
T95E4 - A T95 with the T96 turret and the smoothbore 105 mm Gun T210.
T95E5 - A T95E2 with a licence-built Royal Ordnance L7, the 105 mm Gun T254.
T95E6 - A T95E4 with the rifled lightweight 120 mm Gun T123E6.
T95E7 - A T95E1 with the 105 mm Gun T254E2 (M68).
T95E8 - A T95E2 with a 12V71T diesel engine.
T95E9 - A T95E6 with a 12V71T diesel engine.
T95E10 - A T95 with a VDS-1100 diesel engine.
T95E11 - A T95E6 with a VDS-1100 diesel engine.
T95E12 - A T95E11 with a full solution fire control system and a 2-meter base rangefinder
agile crest
Holy
solid gate
Also the Chieftain/T95 uses the original T95’s gun which is smoothbore. Wargaming called it (rifled) though because they cannot break their rule about no smoothbore guns. Well hate to break it to you Wargaming but you have.
granite crystal
@solid gate nothing compared to Panzer III design iterations
Pz. III A
Pz. III B
Pz. III C
Pz. III D
Pz. III E
Pz. III F
Pz. III G
Pz. III H
Pz. III I
Pz. III J1
Pz. III J2
Pz. III K
Pz. III L
Pz. III M
Pz. III N
realistically you could have Panzer IIIs from I-IV as the N model had a short 75
solid gate
@granite crystal Wow!
Also wouldn’t T95E6 still be a medium class tank despite the size of the gun? Of course you have the T96 which is what the turret for the T95E6 is from.
granite crystal
depends rly. I’d say from the armor it would still be a medium.
solid gate
Yeah Wargaming made it a heavy because they goofy. But realistically with the armor profile and the speed it’s more like a medium than a heavy.
And I still full heartedly believe the T54E2 should be a tier 9 medium not a tier 8 heavy for 2 main reasons. 1 it was a medium irl and 2 we don’t need more tier 8 premium heavies.
Panzer 4 A
Panzer 4 D
Panzer 4 F1
Panzer 4 F2
Panzer 4 G
Panzer 4 H
Panzer 4 J
Panzer 4 S
Panzer 3/4
Panzer 5/4 command vehicle
Stug IV
Jagdpanzer 4
Jagdpanzer 4/70
Heuschrecke
Brummbär
Hummel
Waffentrager Ausf Panzer 4
Am I forgetting anything besides the infantry carriers
This as well
karmic nymph
What was special about the hydro?
granite crystal
@karmic nymph it was an experimental transmission. No test data exists unfortunately
solid gate
In late 1943, Zahnradfabrik Augsburg equipped normal (turretless) Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf G/H with newly developed hydraulic steering system. Thoma (non-liquid) oil drive transmission was installed and drive sprocket was replaced with the new one. The power train consisted of twin oil pumps driven by Maybach HL 120 TRM engine. In order to accommodate all the changes, entire engine deck and rear was modified. In mid 1944, this prototype was fitted with modified hydraulically operated turret. Tests were carried on but were never concluded. There are varying accounts as to what happened to the prototype afterwards; one is that it stayed at the testing facility and was captured there by the US Army, and the other account states that the prototype was sent to Russia and served with the Waffen SS unit. At the end of the war, this vehicle was captured by the US Army and was sent to United States for further examination. Tests were never concluded and this vehicle is still at Aberdeen U.S Army Proving Grounds in Maryland.
It's quite a cool tank in terms of design, I like the look
night pilot
t95 series have composit armour
granite crystal
no...
@solid gate you forgot about the Panzer IV/70s
and I think the Sd. Kfz 140/1 could make for a fun tier ii
solid gate
Well maybe if you believe Wikipedia but that’s not the most trustworthy site. Also it just says fused Silica embedded in cast steel armor.
night pilot
@solid gate
solid gate
glass.
granite crystal
that’s an M60 😆
granite crystal
T95 has much lower ground clearance. Plus, where did you get the picture from?
night pilot
the m60 bore evacuator is different
solid gate
I don’t think the T95 had true composite armor or Wargaming wouldn’t have added it. Either that or they removed it from equation.
granite crystal
That’s not the thing here buddy. Look at the chassis. In your image, it clearly has the distinctive hull design of the M48 & M60. The T95 has much steeper angling.
night pilot
buddy look m60 never has composits
granite crystal
looks a bit similar, doesn’t it 🤔
night pilot
no on the m60 the bore evacuator is more in the middle
granite crystal
Where did you get the image from?
Ok, so I’m guessing the image is inaccurate or unsourced to the point of uncertainty
solid gate
While most prototypes of the T95 just used conventional steel armor, the later T95E6 variant was supposed to have siliceous cored armor, an early take on composite armor that placed a plate of silica glass between the steel plates to disrupt penetrators when they moved from one material to another. However, the T95 program was canceled before the T95E6 was built. - The National Interest
granite crystal
not the most reliable source but the best we have rn
@night pilot we can’t take that image as proof until you tell us where it came from
solid gate
@granite crystal @night pilot that’s an M48 Patton....
night pilot
solid gate
Well no but I’d say TNI is better than Wikipedia. Sadly TE afaik doesn’t have an article on the T95 yet.
narrow rampart
no on the m60 the bore evacuator is more in the middle
@night pilot bore evacuators are about gun, not tanks perse
solid gate
The M48 did have composite armor very late 50s
narrow rampart
Also, the lower front part of M48 and M60 is different
night pilot
i was talkign about the gun @narrow rampart
narrow rampart
I know
granite crystal
That’s no T95 hull
narrow rampart
But a gun is not necessarily a 100% ID for a tank
night pilot
the gun on the m68 is middle compared to the 90mm
solid gate
That’s not how it works
granite crystal
not the same hull @night pilot
night pilot
https://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/10919-history-of-us-tanks/
idk if this is enough but here
solid gate
The bore evac is a part to ID it’s a M48A5-M60 the 90mm has a literal muzzle brake and the 105mm doesn’t
narrow rampart
nothing compared to Panzer III design iterations
@granite crystal M4 Sherman series likes to weigh in
granite crystal
possibly, especially if you count other countries’ modifications
solid gate
Also still that’s not A t95 that’s the Patton’s hull when it was testing composite armor
night pilot
solid gate
Sherman variants are confusing since they added A# then did A#E#.
granite crystal
blogs aren’t historically accurate
narrow rampart
@solid gate that goes for all US Army WW2 tanks
solid gate
@narrow rampart I suppose so.
night pilot
idk i could go find us army manuls but its going to take time
narrow rampart
A is basic sub model, E stands for Experimental version
solid gate
A stands for Alteration E stands for Enhancement @narrow rampart
granite crystal
@night pilot it’s not going to be in US Army manuals
narrow rampart
Also, there's fairly simple basic versions
A stands for Alteration E stands for Enhancement @narrow rampart
@solid gate eerhm .. nope
solid gate
@narrow rampart Oh, ok. Also you think T20 should get a buff? I like it a bit but most players (included M4 Obsessed) hate it.
granite crystal
it gets confusing when they added HVSS @narrow rampart
solid gate
I haven’t seen E used in any prototype tank
narrow rampart
The E suffix stands for a subversion of a tank that is experimental
solid gate
That’s what A is for
narrow rampart
The T denoted a prototype version
solid gate
Wouldn’t A mean Alteration?
narrow rampart
No, A denotes a submodel of a tank that has been accepted for service
solid gate
T26E2 T26E3 T26E4 all are enhancements off the previous one
Err well by Dog’s standard I think A would mean that.
narrow rampart
T26 is experimental tank 26. The E is subversion of that T26
solid gate
@solid gate Those are late war to post war tanks.
narrow rampart
T26 is WW2
granite crystal
M26 is Korea
solid gate
I know but it (as in the accepted version E3 as M26) served after WW 2 as well hence my wording. I meant it in a time frame.
The E doesn’t stand for that it literally stands for enhancement IE M4A3e8 M4A4E2
granite crystal
hold on a second
solid gate
Even the M1A1 abrams was originally designated M1E1 before it was complete
Wait what happened to M4A2E1-E3? I know there is the experimental M4A2E4 but what about the other 3?
granite crystal
@solid gate no it was XM1
solid gate
Xm1 is the original M1 model
narrow rampart
The E doesn’t stand for that it literally stands for enhancement IE M4A3e8 M4A4E2
@solid gate source to back that up?
solid gate
Actually some places mention an M1E1 for some reason @granite crystal. But XM1 is the main experimental M1 Abrams.
granite crystal
M1E1 would have to be post production
solid gate
M1E1 vs M1A1 is confusing. I think E1 was a one off.
M1E1 is the abrams that tested L44 and frontal armor plates for A1
granite crystal
source?
shell forum
enjoy watching the nerd debate
granite crystal
shuddup
solid gate
Oh, right. I forgot TE had an article on the M1E1. Maybe that’s where I first found it.
night pilot
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/t95.html @granite crystal also here is more t95e2, it dose have composits
solid gate
But what’s the difference between it and A1?
granite crystal
Perhaps the Army’s designation changed sometime during the Cold War, as after Korea you really don’t see E in active service tanks
solid gate
E1 has test plates and missing a few sights A1 has a better turret and few other pieces of equipment
Ok.
night pilot
the army used XM as new proto designation
solid gate
XM stands for experimental model atleast from what I know
granite crystal
@night pilot it never lists which model was equipped on, if it even existed
solid gate
If T95 was using or to use appliqué armor that’s not the same as built in composite armor it seems. It’s an add on package.
night pilot
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/298700-t-64-vs-t95-medium-tank/
also its on WT forums, its more accurate than any wot forums
granite crystal
Unsourced -_-
night pilot
@granite crystal https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/524050.pdf
us army documents
so t95 dose have composits
granite crystal
@night pilot not all of them. It clearly says only six of them were built
and it doesn’t tell us what designation they are
night pilot
solid gate
Ok then but the in game ones probably don’t have the appliqué/composite armor.
granite crystal
Remember, only 6 were built w composite
solid gate
Yeah. Also I wonder what other tanks Vickers came up with as drawings. Especially for light tank designs.
Lord wisheth me luck with this
@solid gate T95 isn’t great either. Very tricky to play. Especially since the stupid armor nerf many updates ago.
raw spruce
That’s a LOT of Hybrid Nation tanks.
solid gate
@raw spruce Mate you cannot even see them all.
@solid gate yeah, but, doom turtle amirite.
@solid gate Well I hate it so far. Probably not playing it right I guess but it’s not even got the frontal armor anymore. Especially against stinking premium rounds.
solid gate
SU-85B huh? Outdated tier IV. SU-85 isn’t great anymore either.
Who said that they're good
raw spruce
I have more but these are my best if you don’t count my Matilda.
solid gate
Grind KV1, when I got it I shredded the thing
solid gate
Not necessarily.
raw spruce
Both light tanks, pretty sure the Sheridan has better armor although.
tawny cargo
No
solid gate
Sheridan does have better armor but it’s not as used anymore
tawny cargo
Sheridan is a paper tank of the xxl variants
solid gate
@solid gate Well I used to like the SU-85 like 2-4 years ago but now it’s kinda meh at best. SU-100 is not good either. True SU-100 as with the 122mm it’s actually the SU-122P.
tawny cargo
I have it on my own
raw spruce
Is the Black Prince any good?
solid gate
BP is good now except the AP pen.
solid gate
Wargaming should rework the T28 model, as the tank is the T95 without tracks, make it relevant again...
pale crow
After all these years...
Three and a half years of pain. And I finally get something from a weekly crate.
kind bluff
LOL im getting that soon from a contest
nova fog
I Just finished the British heavy line and now I'm looking for a new line to grind, I was thinking something Tank destroyer but I'm not sure for what nation
I really like having armour so maybe the German TDs?
solid gate
@solid gate That’s what I said but someone else said nobody cares about it. Well they’ve made adjustments to tanks people didn’t care about before.
@nova fog They’re okish to good on armor except the tier 8s.
Well actually the tier V and VI ones aren’t that great on armor but they have mobility and dpm. The tier VII has armor on the front. Tier 8s don’t have great armor profiles overall. JT has armor and JP E 100 (StuG E 100 to be more correct) has armor.
solid gate
Ok so T28 isn't that bad, just gotta max the crew, get the gun and off I go
ashen rock
very slowly
nova fog
thanks, is there a tree that has more consistent armour in the TDs?
solid gate
@nova fog you can go Jagdtiger or T3 route
nova fog
ok thanks for the tips
waxen kraken
Uh, is the IS-6 any good?
solid gate
its decent if you know how to use it
jagged linden
its decent if you know how to use it
Just use the IS playstyle with Sidescraping
waxen kraken
Kk, thx!
solid gate
@nova fog Hard to say if there is a consistent TD line with armor.
waxen kraken
What about the Löwe?
jagged linden
I don't like Löwe, I don't have tips about it
solid gate
the japanese td line has some armored tanks, with at least having a troll profile
@solid gate You’re kidding me right? T28 is just a worse T95 (which itself is tricky to play with all the lights and mediums out there) and messed up model.
@solid gate That may be so. I’ve yet to get past the first one myself though.
I was talking about my own experience, plus I'm trying to have fun.
waxen kraken
Has anyone tried the P.43
jagged linden
Me. Not bad, but It disappeard from my garage
solid gate
i just got the mastery and sold it
waxen kraken
Sad
solid gate
Eh I may have had okayish battles with T28 but the tank sucks. Barely faster than T95 with super weak sides, a lower plate it shouldn’t have, and a smaller gun mount.
waxen kraken
So the P.43 is ok.