@wise moth i am still not convinced with ur poit cuz i face vk k almost every day
#vehicles-discussion
solid gate
All other heavies still bounce at times on it, in terms of facehugging it can be one of the best, is pretty tall so it can find spots to pen any tank
And tbh 113 is my fav rn
113 is really good.
wise moth
Also, remember that the armor is literally the only thing VK 72 has going for it. The DPM is trash tier, it has the lowest HP of the superheavies, and standard terrible superheavy mobility
solid gate
This dude seriously ignoring how positive is literally a definition of a proffesional player
wise moth
@solid gate Doesn't really matter. Even players with bad stats can have valid opinions
solid gate
@wise moth all what i want to say that it got armor and good alpha
wise moth
People used to write off my opinions when I had bad stats, but now I have good stats, and most of my opinions literally have not changed lol @solid gate
solid gate
alpha is average for a superheavy, not the only one, and Armour is only good when facehugging, bad at anything else
Its not as bad as people say if played correctly........ It can overcome e100 ezily
wise moth
E-100 has actual DPM, and you can actually use the armor profile
solid gate
It only have a special gameplay wich is not usual
@solid gate yes it should be able to beat the e100 because u can pen the e100 easier, than it can pen you, in most other cases, Vk72 just lacks.
@wise moth i still think all heavies are annoying to fight then again i have and old SC of me from 2017 with the most disgustingly bad leopard 1 loadout ever
wise moth
@solid gate I actually 1v1'ed a clanmate, and I actually managed to beat him in a narrow majority of 1v1s in the VK72 vs. E-100, because we had this same debate lol (I was playing E-100)
solid gate
Vk has its times and uses
i get it, but technically E100 has more chances of bouncing.
wise moth
In theory yes, but in practice, it seems about the same. Comes down a lot to RNG
solid gate
@solid gatenot rlly
@solid gate you’re going against your point now buddy 😂
Nah i didnt
broken sentinel
To be fair you're not impervious to bad opinions. I mean, just look at your opinion on the Batchat, thinking it should get 4 shells + 350 damage 😛 @wise moth
But in all seriousness, people respect your opinions because you've shown you can actually play the game well and you're not just some blathering scrublord who wants his tank buffed because he/she can't play it.
solid gate
aren’t you defending the Vk 72? Wait am i wrong?
@solid gate nvm i understood ur comment wrong😂 😂
wise moth
@broken sentinel As for the bat chat, all I have to say is ding dong your opinion is wrong
solid gate
oh haha😂
broken sentinel
Yeah yeah we've just agreed to disagree on that one
solid gate
Batchat should stay as it is, Sheridan needs a nerf 🤷🏻♂️
broken sentinel
Mainly because I think 1400 clip damage with light tank camo would be broken, but whatever
wise moth
I'd want the light tank designation taken away if it got my 350*4 @broken sentinel
broken sentinel
I mean that'd be fine, sure
solid gate
with that take the Light perk out too huh, interesting idea, and add the other amx that is the t10 light on PC?
wise moth
@solid gate EXACTLY
broken sentinel
But I'd want something to replace the Batchat as a light (ie the AMX 13 105 from PC) Edit: yeah that E x A c T l Y
solid gate
EXACTLY 😂
wise moth
AMX 13 105 has basically identical gameplay to the current bat chat.
solid gate
yep, bit smaller though, like an actual light tank lol
broken sentinel
Yeah, except the Batchat is huge lol
solid gate
we need the manticore in this game, no idea why i just love the looks of the thing
wise moth
Yeah, but we're getting a certain tank that shall remain nameless, so the odds of us getting Manticore are kinda slim
broken sentinel
Anyways, in back to the VK discussion. The VK definitely needs a buff, but idk if buffing that weak spot is the right way to fix it. The main thing I thought was off about it was the DPM.
solid gate
Is there a written rule saying there can’t be two lights on a specific tech tree ? NO ( i hope so). Soooo.. MANTICORE it is!
wise moth
@broken sentinel VK 72 won't be getting a buff anytime soon, since somehow it's 3rd on the winrate charts for tier 10 heavies
broken sentinel
Sheesh, I guess a lot of decent players are getting it atm
wise moth
Probably because people on CIS server rarely shoot gold
I'm willing to bet some big money that at least on NA, it must be lower down the list.
solid gate
@wise moth and btw my stats dropped last days cuz i started to play the game on phone so can u tell mw if t57 can help me get it higher or not and if yes... Its gameplay plzz
broken sentinel
Bro was that even English?
wise moth
@solid gate T57 is good for damage dealing, but not winning. So if you want to pump up your average damage, T57 is good for that. If you want to pump up your winrate, T57 is definitely not the heavy tank for that job
solid gate
@broken sentinel srry not full structure cuz i am not in school
broken sentinel
Right because you need to be in school to speak properly...
solid gate
@wise moth what is the heavy that can maintain my wr
wise moth
Maus. Maus is the best heavy tank for winning by far
broken sentinel
Chieftain Mk6 is very good
solid gate
Why not....... Cuz i love crazy armor already
wise moth
Chieftain is extremely meh
broken sentinel
IS-4 can be pretty good at times
solid gate
@wise moth true 113 just pin it on the wall ezily...... And is 4 is good always
wise moth
All Chieftain has is decent DPM/accuracy.
broken sentinel
Yeah the Chieftain isn't excessively good, but it certainly can get the job done. It's basically a medium that got the heavy HP buff in a sense
wise moth
@broken sentinel It's a medium, minus the medium tank mobility. The effective p/w on the Chieftain is pretty terrible
solid gate
113 can play the role better
broken sentinel
@wise moth agreed. The DPM is fantastic though, which makes it great at farming damage
solid gate
@broken sentinel 113 got better dpm
wise moth
If you want the idea of a medium heavy, 113 just smacks Chieftain
broken sentinel
True, but it sucks at traversing and doesn't have that lovely 10° of gun depression
wise moth
Like 300 more DPM, much better mobility, much better turret, more alpha, and a much better gold round, and a hull that's not completely useless
wheat elk
Is there anyone using Tiger 1? I need help, it destroyed almost all the time
solid gate
I have it and also it can bounce hits if u angle it in about 25~30 degrees
wise moth
It's less comfortable to play, sure, but it just has the raw stats that Chieftain doesn't
solid gate
@wheat elkdont try to angle in the open... It is not made for this
wheat elk
Ok
solid gate
And u got dpm
wise moth
@wheat elk They already made Tiger I bouncier. It used to only have 100mm frontal armor, now it's 165mm on the upper plate
broken sentinel
I mean I kinda treat my Chieftain like it's a T34 with more speed and a better reload, but it's at tier 10. I never really rely on the hull since that's not how it's supposed to be played. Both the 113 and Chieftain can farm well, the 113 is just more tanky (keep in mind the Chieftain has way better accuracy as well)
solid gate
Use ur turret armor also@wheat elk
hollow relic
wise moth
Chieftain turret kinda sucks though
broken sentinel
kinda, it depends on the situation
solid gate
@hollow relic what tank???????
hollow relic
IS 7
wise moth
It's only good if you can use the gun depression, but those scenarios are relatively rare, and literally everything is good when using gun depression
solid gate
Epic is7 got bouncy(tricky) armor though
hollow relic
My team sucked so much. I was carrying. We had a Maus that was camping smh
broken sentinel
The cupola is big and you have to always face your enemies, but again I'm used to this with the T34 (just replace the cupola with the turret cheeks in this analogy)
solid gate
@hollow relic wtf maus camping xD
broken sentinel
I don't really struggle to find cover in my Chieftain. There's pretty much always somewhere I can go to get hull down
hollow relic
Yeah it was on top of a Hill at spawn just shooting away. And the thing is he barely got any damage, he got bit to shreds by a 183
wise moth
@broken sentinel I'm not saying finding hull down cover isn't impossible, but it's less common than you think. Like the 113 hull is literally impenetrable if you only use 3 degrees of gun depression, which is hardly any, but no one will say 113 hull is amazing because of that, since it happens so rarely, and 3 is a heck of a lot less than like the 6+ you need to use to make Chieftain turret work
solid gate
@wise moth 113 is too flat if u angle it in 25~30 degree it bounce tds shots (not always.... U got the lower plate)
Thing is, Maus has a very low skill floor, but the ceiling is not that high either, tanks with good dpm and good guns will always have more potential, add to that the ability to relocate
broken sentinel
That depends on the situation as well, who is shooting and where each tank is plays a major roll in that situation @solid gate
@wise moth Like I said, the 113 is more tanky. The Chieftain is more like a medium in that you have to be much more cautious. The gun depression and gun handling pretty much allow you to stay further away from your enemies and thus be more passive. You can't be as aggressive in the Chieftain and that's fine
solid gate
And some time 30 degrees are much also
wise moth
@solid gate Maus is also high skill ceiling. A good player can definitely pull 80%+ wr in the thing
solid gate
that’s not what i refer to when i say high ceiling.
broken sentinel
Even so, there are plenty of areas where I'm practically impervious to getting hit where a 113 simply wouldnt work due to the lack of gun depression
solid gate
@broken sentinel nope bro i got a pretty good ahot effect in k91 and its always ez to deal with chief
Although i am at t9
wise moth
@solid gate I know what you mean, but a skilled player can just far easily have a bigger impact in a Maus than most tanks, thus giving it a high skill ceiling. It doesn't fit the traditional definition of a high skill ceiling tank, but it just has so much raw armor and HP that it doesn't matter
solid gate
What i mean is, in some games, the high dpm and mobile tanks will have way more paths to get a win that would otherwise seem unreal (not based on RNG), unlike the maus
@wise mothagreee😁
Yes, the Maus has the raw stats, that will bring it average wins way more often than with the Mk6
broken sentinel
@solid gate what i meant was that it depends on who is shooting and where the tanks are. You're not every player in the queue and you're not always going to have an easy shot. It depends on who you're facing, where you are, where they are, etc etc. Dealing in hypotheticals (or your personal skill) adds nothing to what you or what I was saying
wise moth
I mean, there's a reason why Maus absolutely destroys every single medium tank in the balance charts (which only counts 55%+ players) in winrate, but also has higher DPB than all meds on the chart too @solid gate
It doesn't fit the traditional definition of a high skill ceiling tank, but it definitely is one
broken sentinel
Yeah it also helps the fact that the Maus is extremely fun to play
solid gate
@broken sentinel ur turret is rlly squashy e100 can shoot it without aiming
hollow relic
Maus is a noob friendly tank
solid gate
@hollow relic true
wise moth
Maus is noob friendly, but that doesn't mean it's not a high skill ceiling tank
broken sentinel
@solid gate again, that adds nothing to the discussion. RNG is everything in that situation. By extension I could say a 183 could hit a blind shot on a T95's cupola across the map, which must render the T95's armor useless. It means nothing.
solid gate
yep, I don’t see the maus clutching hard in 1v3s or 1v4s unless it’s against actual noobs who just don’t know what to do, at all
@broken sentinel ur whole tank can got hit ezily lol
wise moth
@solid gate If you have a Maus, you just won't end up in those scenarios in the first place because you can bulldoze the enemy before that even happens
solid gate
Exactly! Because it has a low skill floor, it can allow a massive number of mistakes.
broken sentinel
It's always really sad to see a maus failing to angle though
solid gate
@broken sentinel it hurts my eyes
broken sentinel
It's super easy, but a lot of people just suck at doing it (same goes for the E100)
solid gate
But there is the 0.1% of games, that the Maus can’t clutch and the Mk6 can, using different tactics
wise moth
It's more forgiving for noobs, but if you add skill, then you can squeeze far more value out of a Maus than basically any other tank, because skilled players are better at angling it, at applying it to the correct spots on the map, and also handling multiple engagements at once
solid gate
@broken sentinel e100 angling a bit harder though but still ez w. R. T. Other heavies
wise moth
It's obvious that Maus is worse in the end game, but it's just soooooo much better in every other scenario
solid gate
the Skill Ceiling part usually comes in the end game, where the most pressure is on you 👍
that’s when you know whether a player can actually do very well in a tank or just decent
wise moth
That's false. Higher winrates don't come from being able to clutch better, it comes from having more impact throughout a battle
solid gate
And i realized that i should get all tanks that come after tiger P xD
hollow relic
Most clutch in the game is the IS 7
broken sentinel
Omg what has WG done to heavies...
I'm looking on Blitz Stars and every single heavy tank at tier 10 has at least a 52% win rate. Most of them tend towards 55%. Sheesh
wise moth
With tanks that aren't the Maus, you'll frequently end up in battles where you're powerless to turn the tide before the odds become insurmountable. Maus never suffers from that issue
solid gate
@hollow relic u rlly like russian bais
hollow relic
Yes @solid gate The IS 7 is the best tank ever created in history lol
solid gate
Sorry but having a high skill ceiling and having a high winrate isn’t always the same. Yes the other tanks will have much less impact in the whole match, but a player doing well in a MK6 and achieving its maximum will most likely do better in the Maus overall. I can’t really explain what i mean, but i hope you somewhat understand haha
For me i like germans and chinese more often
hollow relic
Chinese tanks are dooodooo. I can understand German though. German engineering stronk
broken sentinel
What? The 113 and 121 some of the strongest tanks in the game
solid gate
@hollow relic for real 🤭 113 is way better than is 7 boi
121 second strongest med imo
hollow relic
no what IS 7 the best tank in the game
wise moth
@solid gate
Just because a tank takes more finesse to play doesn't make it higher skill ceiling.
If they pick up more wins in the Maus (and deal more damage to boot), than I fail to see how your definition of skill ceiling is even relevant
solid gate
@hollow relic its what u like after all
broken sentinel
The 121 is literally 3rd under the E50M and STB-1 according to #devs-answers
solid gate
It takes more skill and finesse to master the Mk6 than the Maus. That’s it.
wise moth
It's definitely less flashy, than something like say, a Leopard, but it still delivers higher results in the hands of a skilled player, thus higher skill ceiling
broken sentinel
Alright, as much as I like discussing this, I need to get to bed. It's 3AM here lol
solid gate
Skill ceiling is the level of skill required to use a tank to its maximum potential, right? @wise moth
hollow relic
Honostly the Chinese shouldn’t even be in the game considering the time frame. The WZ were built in the late 60s and they are going against WW2 tanks like the Maus and E100. Kinda Bull shit if you ask me. Just another way for WG to make Money. And even Japan shouldn’t have the STB. Way out of the timeline. If WG wants the timeline to extend to the 60s then they should add 60s Tanks of Russia too. Even American nd British tanks from the sixties..
wise moth
@solid gate I define skill ceiling as the maximum results achievable, so I guess we just have different definitions
solid gate
@broken sentinel gd night😁
wise moth
By your definition, Maus is definitely a lower skill ceiling tank
solid gate
@wise moth that’s it, i agree with what you say, but i don’t define that necessarily as skill ceiling, if u get what i mean.
broken sentinel
@hollow relic you do realize the T-62A was built in 1962 right?
hollow relic
What about the IS 7, The IS 4?
So many tanks that are being compared to tanks from the Sixties that would get obliterated irl.
solid gate
Other games i played were Overwatch, LoL, just so you get a reference.
broken sentinel
Leopard 1 was built in 1965 mate
wise moth
Yah, I know that's how they define skill ceiling there
solid gate
Sheridan is not old
We should’ve started it all from the basis, the definition, innit? 😂
broken sentinel
Most heavies at tier 10 were designed in the 50s. A good portion of the meds at tier 10 are from the 60s
wise moth
It's just I find that definition pretty useless in Blitz, since it does nothing to describe how good a tank is, and it's usually pretty obvious which tanks are harder to play than others. Like Leopard 1 by the LoL/Overwatch defintion is a super high skill ceiling tank. Doesn't make it necessarily good though, and it's blatantly obvious that it's a hard tank to get the most out of
solid gate
But then comes a sheridan
hollow relic
@broken sentinel And yet They think the E100 or the Jagdpanzer will stand a chance against the Leopard.
broken sentinel
@hollow relic considering it's an arcade game, I don't thing the Blitz developers care
solid gate
@hollow relic e100 will HE the leo so ezily just find a wall
@wise moth I never actually said it is better, i meant something else haha
hollow relic
@solid gate The E 100 would not be able to even move its turret. Leopard is one of the fastest tanks in the world.
broken sentinel
@hollow relic mate, no one cares
solid gate
Yes, the impact the Maus has lately is crazy, hence it’s use in tournaments, right now.
In the open e100 will die but in a small area leo got no chance
wise moth
@hollow relic Actually, Leopard 1's speed in Blitz is its historical speed. 65km/h
hollow relic
We r talking about irl. Not game bruh
solid gate
hey guys should i get the T-34 or the KV-1 as my next tank?
Kv1
T-34 first, u can get the su85 from it too, but that is my opinion
wise moth
@hollow relic I am talking about IRL. Leopard 1 IRL goes 65km/h max. Look it up
Not many things in Blitz are historical, but this part is
solid gate
Heavies more forgiving@solid gate
alr thanks btw does anybody know which tanks have turrets as fast as machine guns? during a battle i have been molested by a tank that could fire like 8 rounds in 10 seconds
Leopard
oh no not the germans!
It was 1 sec only btw
wise moth
@solid gate Ah, I think you're thinking of autoloaders/autocannons. The German tier 5 Leopard light tank is the highest tier tank with such a fast firing autocannon
broken sentinel
@wise moth just curious, do you hate tier 5 as much as I do? Or are you fine with low tiers?
solid gate
broken sentinel
I personally can't stand low tiers
solid gate
who doesn’t hate low tiers.. 😂
wise moth
@broken sentinel I haven't played below tier 7 in quite a while, but I'm pretty sure that some of these recent changes have turned tiers 5-7 into a cesspool
broken sentinel
From what I've experienced, tier 6 has basically become the new tier 4
solid gate
feels like the lower you go, the more RNG reliant it gets
To help starters@solid gate
broken sentinel
yeah tier 5 guns are absolute garbage compared to high tiers
The aim times just suck
solid gate
Not sure if this is the greatest of helps..
wise moth
@solid gate Tanks at lower tiers have fewer defining characteristics, and lower DPM relative to HP pools, so it's harder to have an impact with skill, which overall is better for new players
solid gate
Somebody posted a somewhat interesting idea, the removal of dispersion completely, in tournaments, and a tank’s accuracy will depend on its aim time..
hollow relic
broken sentinel
The main thing is that I've been trying out my free to play account (an experiment account, not a reroll), so I've been getting a glimpse at how it is down there.
wise moth
@solid gate It is an interesting idea, but it would so radically change the game, that I don't know if I'd really be comfortable with seeing it implemented, especially in tournaments. Maybe as a part of the "realistic" battles gamemode
solid gate
Yes, first add it as a new gamemode, to see the reaction.
I feel dispersion is more realistic tbh
broken sentinel
I would very much like to see WG implement no-dispersion for realistic mode, but you have to account for shell drop
wise moth
Also, I'm not super comfortable with giving more advantage to players with higher mechanical skill. A lot of the appeal of Blitz for me, and a lot of people is that the RNG softens much of the impact of mechanical skill @solid gate
solid gate
we’re not really talking about how realistic it will be @solid gate It’s all about the competitive side of things
broken sentinel
War Thunder has it so that there is still some dispersion, but it only comes into play at long range most of the time, which is something I like. It's just that Blitz has absolutely no place for this (and for good reason)
solid gate
@wise moth but that’s how you distinguish actual mechanically skilled players right? Still, i totally understand you.
@solid gate i think it might not be fair for players who depends on mechanics too much
@solid gate It’s the exact opposite haha, if you are mechanically skilled, you will thrive.
They will be op thats what i mean
broken sentinel
The main issue is that you have numerical values attached to whether someone hits or misses. In WT you can repair and replace crewmen/modules, effectively regaining "hit points". In Blitz, you cannot do that, which makes the damage you receive much much more punishing
solid gate
Sorry, really didn’t get it 🤷🏻♂️
wise moth
@solid gate We already have missiles, and that's enough for me. Again, I think a big part of the appeal of WoT/Blitz is that it's more of a thinking man's game. A lot of the playerbase for WoT/Blitz is older and have worse reflexes/mechanical skill, and can't really compete in games that require such skill like CoD and Counterstrike, so they play this
broken sentinel
anyways I need to sleep, gnite guys lol
solid gate
I said it in wrong way srry@solid gate
@broken sentinelgd night
@broken sentinel sleep well. @wise moth ATGMs must be removed anyway haha. And yes, gotcha, it’ll be too easy for the weakspot sniping and snapshotting younglings 😂
wise moth
I'm young too, I'm just terrible at aiming lol
solid gate
Had a good chat with you all, have a good day or night depending on where you live. ✌️
solid gate
Does anyone know how much it will cost to sell the new KV-1S Tunder?
glass relic
500 gold
solid gate
Ok thx. I as trying to find out how much gold i would get for selling the two collectors in the battle pass and the gold your revive from it. Its around 4k gold for $5
zealous anchor
wow
solid gate
Im starting to think the matilda is the worst tier 4 tank. Its slow. It only does 45-50 damage and even though you have good armour there are tanks from your size that can kill you in 3-4 hits!
Srsly do not get a matilda. Its not worth it. Only get a matilda if you want to try and get a crusader.
rancid mauve
Lol you’re kidding right?? The Matilda can be used for sealclubbing with that fantastic armor! Find a hull down spot, and have fun bouncing everything
BUT! Don’t take my word for it. I haven’t played it since before update 5.5, and I don’t know (nor remember) what’s been changed about it.
solid gate
@solid gate Yes the Matilda is slow, but the fire rate is very quick and it has nearly impenetrable armour for lower tier tanks.
Quick?
Sure but if its quick at least put dmg at 70
tiny plume
no
glass relic
At least you can cripple their HPs really fast, idk why you're complaining about the alpha damage on a low tier tank anyway.
echo knot
i want S-Tank for european line tank destroyer
deep kayak
Has anyone been offered a Valkyria Chronicles Tank that was supposedly available for 24hrs but have it disappear after you log out of the game?
solid gate
@echo knot Not happening.
echo knot
why tho?
i think that is good tank.
deep kayak
In the past week I have been offered the Nameless and Edelweiss plus a friend was offered the Vulcan. All three offers said they would be available for 24hrs but they all disappeared after we logged out.
wheat elk
So, to any IS users, how it feels yo use one?
rancid mauve
@wheat elk they bounce, they derp, and more often than not they miss
tardy granite
Are there any tanks in WoTBlitz that have more then one playable gun?
gentle wasp
Yes. T-54, 4202, 7/1, WT, Is-6, LTTB, and others
most of them are just a preference of alpha, gun handling, etc
tardy granite
any British ?
gentle wasp
Yea 7/1, 4202, Conway
7/1 and 4202 are just HESH or HEAT. Conway is 400ish alpha vs 600
solid gate
What is the best like sniper tanks in the game in wotblitz
visual jolt
@solid gate the tanks in the Grille line are very snipey
solid gate
Ok
visual jolt
But I wouldn’t recommend them as one of your first lines to grind
solid gate
Does anyone play on Asian servers here?
rancid mauve
Mmmmm I love my Grille and its accuracy 🙏🏻🙏🏻
trail rampart
Any good derpy high alpha tank lines should i grind? Im already grinding to grille and su lines
visual jolt
@trail rampart you want the whole line to be derpy/high alpha or just the tier x?
trail rampart
Derpy high alpha
viral lodge
They mean do you want it on all tiers of the line or just the T10 they know what a derp is
trail rampart
T10
visual jolt
@trail rampart JG E100 and t110e3
trail rampart
Thx I'll grind it now
visual jolt
The FV4005 also has a 1380 damage clip potential
trail rampart
Goddnight ya'll
rancid mauve
@visual jolt wait are you serious?? I didn’t know that..😳 looks like I found a line to grind. I have to start at tier 6 though 😩
ember arrow
is the tog still good?
tulip sail
Yes
tulip edge
Tog will forever be good
crystal bloom
Yelo
short ermine
Some event involving the T95. They make a premium T95.😋 😋 😋
shy hatch
The IS line has more agile tanks, depends more on slopes and spaced armor than actual thick plates, unlike the KV line, thick mechins till tier 9, well some do have slopes too like the KV-3 but
That's how the stronk tenks work, guns don't really differ, both have the decent pen big circle guns
low rampart
The IS is kinda tough to play, don't know about the KV-3 yet. You have to grind to improve on it.
north musk
Y o i n k Restored through player support
gentle wasp
ew why
north musk
It’s good tho
gentle wasp
not really
tulip sail
It's not excellent but its certainly not bad
deft glen
Could this be a skin option for the leopard 1? 7000 gold to buy?
deft glen
No. The modeling.
gentle wasp
it has useless armor anyway if you are going to play a big box tank that gets penned easily at least play CDC and have speed and a better gun
solid gate
What is the best tier 6 tank?
Heh. The modeling would be great for Leopard 1. But isn’t that an A variant?
deft glen
@solid gate Probably cromwell B
solid gate
@solid gate ARL 44 is one.
gentle wasp
@solid gate Vk 36.01 or Pz IV S
solid gate
As long as you aren’t the Pz IV S player dumb enough to get face hugged by a KV-1S and keep bouncing off the center of the turret and/or hitting the gun.
deft glen
@solid gate I dont know, but they can change the name like they do with special appearances.
solid gate
@deft glen I suppose but that one has side skirts while the in game Leopard 1 doesn’t.
missiles are too op
deft glen
Im saying that they could keep the one they have in the game right now, but offer this as an appearance option for the tank.
deft glen
Jg. Pz. IV @solid gate
gentle wasp
@solid gate hellcat, jg pz, 100y
solid gate
@gentle wasp I didn’t ask but was trying to show I was thinking for an answer to his/her question.
deft glen
100y isn't that great. Just a giant target.
solid gate
100Y occasionally trolls me when I’m playing mediums and try to snap shot it.
gentle wasp
@solid gate ah welp wrong ping sorry @deft glen gun is really good what are you talking about. straight line speed is decent and the armor is troll ^^^
gentle wasp
its decent and it leads to an amazing line
deft glen
263 and 268 are both great. I have both and love them.
solid gate
Depends on which line. SU-100M1 (not sure if that’s real and/or real designation or not) isn’t that great.
SU-101 I’m not sure about yet.
Ok thanks for the sugestion
crystal hare
@solid gate best IMO t6 TD is SU-100
solid gate
Ok thanks for the recomendation
plush willow
T2 Light was the best tier 2 tank before the collector update. Change my mind.
solid gate
When you sell the tank with camo that you bought with gold, does it give back the gold that you use to purchase the camo or not?
glass relic
It stays on that tank forever
solid gate
So no refund from the camo?
glass relic
Nope, you get to keep them forever on that tank, so use rare camo for the one that you like
The only gold refund thingy on camo is just whenever you had duplicated camo on that tank, like for example I already have my T-34-3 with Glacier camo, and then somehow my idiot brain just buy another T-34-3 with glacier camo from the shop thus they'll compensate your duplicated camo with gold, if I'm correct.
solid gate
Ok, thanks for the info
deft glen
Wargaming will add this tank as the "Super Smasher"
solid gate
that will be $100 bucks plz
pallid night
When will the teir VII M4/M26 come into the game it got to the icon stage
tulip sail
Absolutely not soon enough
solid gate
That’s cursed to see that
broken turtle
kv-1 is almost the worst heavy tank ingame for tier 5+
terrible speed, really really bad dpm, bad armor,.....
solid gate
what about t1
broken turtle
the best, broken armor with a speed of kv-1, really good dpm, great pen
vast gyro
Kv1 can deal pretty much dmg
That T-34 with that pre-MT25 gun deals even less dpm than a tier 4
and i still have to play it
- that angled armour in front does not even block anything
next solstice
I miss the old KV-1
lucid brook
M3A2E1
tulip sail
@lucid brook do you happen to have a source on that being its entire designation all I can find on it is that they were called m3 CDL
lucid brook
CDL?
broken turtle
Kv1 can deal pretty much dmg
@Panzerkampfwagen(Ausf.)#1671
no, the dpm is almost the worst
pseudo spruce
Nameless and Edelweiss tier 7>tier 8?
remote bolt
Which is better, T-62A or the Obj 140? Need hint
solid gate
Surely t62a
solid gate
Overall better in every thing
remote bolt
Ok thx
trail rampart
Is t29 good? Cuz im bout to buy it later
wanton saffron
really good tier 7, go for it. The gun handling is kinda whatever but overall a really solid tank. @trail rampart
solemn tundra
@trail rampart the T29 is extremely good hull down also its hull is good
echo knot
better use 122mm or stock gun on SU-152?
forest bough
derp all the way
sturdy bane
nahhh top 122mm is crazy DPM
forest bough
the SU152 is for the derp, if you want to play a high dpm td play something else. like the new chi to spg,thats pretty strong
lilac rivet
Guys, In tier 4/5 which tank is good as in Armor and Damage?
And please tell me the country too.
limpid scarab
solid gate
@lilac rivet Nothing really at tier IV. At V it’d be T1 (used to be KV-1).
tropic helm
I just got the IS-5 today, it’s really good coz it bounces all the meds and lights.
lyric oriole
In tier 5 39mm of HE Penetration is pretty weak. I would advise against using it on most tanks but a few tanks like Alecto and Lago can be penetrated with the HE shells.
pliant lodge
Buff the pen of Mod 1 and T-44-100. They both suck and you have to spam APCR to be able to penetrate anything. They are not made for flanking at all.
solid gate
Is Su-85i good tank?
mossy berry
gentle wasp
@solid gate the alpha and speed are decent but it is a high profile with little armor and the accuracy is awful
solid gate
113 need pen buff(this is while i undergo pen increase)
karmic igloo
tulip edge
That picture doesnt exactly help your case.
Youre just sitting stationary infront of a german heavy pointing at you that has thick frontal armour but trash sides
gentle wasp
no its not
tulip sail
@lucid brook CDL is the abbreviation for canal defense light it was a concept to drive up to fortified positions and turn on a bright arc light that would blind enemy troops as well as illuminate them for allies to engage however they were such a secret that most commanders didn't know about them and thus didn't even train with them
solid gate
@gentle wasp try tiger p on that pens like butter u just cant win except going behind
gentle wasp
@solid gate if you angle he shouldnt be able to snipe weakpoints
glass otter
So i just got the T30 so should i get first? Gun or engine
gentle wasp
gun
calm inlet
gun
on a light tank, you may sometimes go for the engine first if its a massive engine upgrade, and a small gun upgrade
but for basically everything else, max your gun first
glass otter
alright, thanks
strong frigate
t62a vs obj140 which better ?
gentle wasp
62a
karmic nymph
Is the Cromwell b worth the 3k gold? I have saved 7k gold from ads so I don’t know if the crom is worth it or if I should wait
pastel trout
yes he is worth it
lyric oriole
Depends, what do you want in a vehicle
karmic nymph
I want something that I can carry with
pastel trout
@karmic nymph I have Cromwell B myself and I think its a strong tank
lyric oriole
That's a bit vague but Crommy B has good carrying capacity, it's a bit more limited with the heavy tank buff but overall it's still solid
karmic nymph
So better to wait for the obj252u?
pastel trout
@karmic nymph Cromwell is fast obj. 252u is slow like IS-3. But more armor
I have so much premium tanks. I feel bad about that;)
lyric oriole
Obj. 252u is overrated the gun can't hit the broadside of a maus, even if the alpha is good.
112-2 would be my recommendation for a tier 8 heavy if you don't mind waiting.
karmic nymph
Alright
pastel trout
@lyric oriole 112-2. I think Löwe is always a good choice
lyric oriole
Löwe is also overrated Imo the gun is good the armor is mediocre and it's pretty big. The credit coefficient isn't as magic as people think. When bottom tiered Löwe might not have much issue with Penetration but it will struggle
karmic nymph
I have the tiger 2 which I think is great, I just wanted something truly op
pastel trout
@karmic nymph which Tier?
pastel trout
@karmic nymph E75 is very strong after the update. nearly more HP than FV 215b
karmic nymph
I have tech tree tanks, I wanted a premium
pastel trout
@karmic nymph hard to say
lyric oriole
WZ-112-2, Chimera, Caernarvon Action X, And WZ-120-FT are OP for tier 8.
Strong but not busted would go to Skorpion G, T26E5, Lekpz M41 90mm, and Type 59
If you want my opinion on other tiers just ask
karmic nymph
Alright thx, I guess I will wait
lyric oriole
Also T-44-100 is garbage so if you see that and someone tries to promote it to you ignore them
pastel trout
@lyric oriole WZ-120-FT. when he is in shop I will buy him
@lyric oriole But T54 mod.1 has strong armor. I like also T-44-100
karmic nymph
Mod 1 is so slow though
lyric oriole
Mod 1 is too slow, T-44-100 is also too slow and has bad armor, the side skirts only protect from being HE'ed on the sides by large calibre guns
low elk
T44100 is a downgrade from T44 tech tree
pastel trout
The only thing I can said is that I love all of this tanks and I win with this "downgraded" tanks also.
lyric oriole
I mean you can enjoy them, but if you like to handicap yourself be my guest, I have no argument
low elk
T44100 is worse compared to T44 in every way
pastel trout
And when I win with this tanks?
lyric oriole
Then you win so what?
low elk
dude i win with T44122
i also win with T44 with 100 gun
does it mean that T44122 is as good as T44 with 100 gun?
lyric oriole
It doesn't (I do the same thing actually, not as often post heavy buff as the DPM actually matters now but still)
low elk
T44122 is one of the most fun
but its one of the most troll tanks to play
just play a t342 or t343
T44122 is fun lol
not meta
but T44100 is like having the T44122's downsides but with none of the upsides
lyric oriole
+1 to camo while Firing and sitting still 🙃
low elk
oh
that makes T44100 broken
haha just kidding its still a stinking heap of manure
solid gate
T-44-100 is a disappointment. Looks good.
kindred wren
I could have told you that ages ago
upper pewter
Is the ISU 152 playable stock?
solid gate
I do like having motor and tracks upgrades
The stock gun is a tier 6. Looks like low pen.
tulip sail
I have so much premium tanks. I feel bad about that;)
@pastel trout don't you're carrying the weight of f2p players
solid gate
Same
glass crypt
you should have the 122mm from the su-152 so how is it stock
karmic nymph
Should I run improved assembly on the e100, or enhanced armor. Won’t heat just pen anyways?
lyric oriole
Either one is actually viable, but I would only recommend enhanced armor if you know how to properly angle the turret (which is pretty difficult in E 100 Given how flat it is) HEAT won't pen if you angle correctly but again it's kinda hard
karmic nymph
I looked at armor inspector, don’t you basically just turn it a bit so that you aren’t straight on looking at them? I don’t know how viable it is though cause I have to look when I shoot. But 160hp ain’t much though
lyric oriole
160 is enough to let you survive 3 183 shots
It'll let you eat another 460 alpha shot
It'll let you eat another 400 Alpha shot
Same with 350 and 310 alpha
karmic nymph
Alright then
ancient prism
The t-54 ltwt needs a speed boots
mighty moth
no it doesnt
cunning python
Can VK 30.02 improve armor please?
I mean can VK 30.02 M improve it’s armor please?
sturdy bane
If you write to Mr. VK 30.02 M and ask politely, he may consider improving his armor for you.
broken turtle
nerf t1 heavy
amber socket
no, it’s very easy to counter, circle it and bully it’s bad depression
solid gate
How a VK 30.01 H being a tier 5?
slow valley
it was an old tech tree tank turned into a collector tank
solid gate
Oh, i didnt know that. I found that tank in two battles and im confuse what ik that tank is a tier 6
slow valley
I think you're mixing it up with a VK 36.01
solid gate
I think youre right
Chi-to stayed as premium while TD line game up. Cannot recearch it with tank exprerience.
frozen mural
Did buy this plus vk72 and conway withdiscount from uprising silver🤡
rapid orchid
SP I C Y
fervent thunder
At15😂
olive sky
mauschen 😂
shy hatch
Still almost as good as it has been
sweet tree
they need to buff the e-75 because of his little brother tiger II is strong but E75 is a bit trash armor
hollow belfry
E 75’s armor is pretty decent if you use it correctly wdym
tulip edge
The e75 does not need a buff. If you think its armour is trash you're probably using it wrong
solid gate
E75 is literally even better now because of the HP buff
remote bolt
How about BC 25 t?
solid gate
Drive it if you wanna suffer
hollow belfry
Mostly outperformed by the Sheridan
wonky gun depression and you have to expose for quite a long time in order to unleash your full clip
remote bolt
Oh right, kinda regret buying it
peak ferry
tulip sail
the T34 calliope doesn't have a place in blitz with functional rockets the only way it could possibly fit is being an attachment for the m4 for looks alone
sweet tree
Also give MBT 70 a rocket launcher cannon please.
flat birch
am i the only one that thinks 1500 hp for the t30 T9 TD is to less
hollow belfry
@sweet tree Balance-wise, I doubt the KpfPz 70 needs ATGMs. Secondly, adding a broken mechanic on a premium tank means making the said mechanic aviable for cash. I don’t think lots of people here would want to see an endless flow of players who just bought their new shiny premium tank and spam missiles all around. I personally don’t think we need any other tank with missiles in this game. 2 is already too much.
sweet tree
Its an historical game though.
solid gate
Not only that wg have said alot they arent gonna give the tank the missiles also wheeze its not historical at all
sweet tree
it is
solid gate
Its really not
hollow belfry
If this game was historical the LTTB would lose it’s tracks when drifting. Also, if you really play this game, you should understand that this game about supposed balance, not realism.
thick trout
@sweet tree You ever played a game in tier 7?
Look at all of those prems and think about how historical they are...
pliant lodge
If this game was realistic. The Maus would be the most broken tank in the game @sweet tree
sweet tree
im playing mbt 70
hollow belfry
^ yes Dracula is a completely historical tank
thick trout
I doubt the tiger 2, tiger it panther have received armour buffs in the last month irl as well...
solid gate
Also its kpz 70*
hollow belfry
As said above, Wargaming announced multiple times they would not give the KpfPz 70 ATGMs. I’m fine with that. No need for more missiles.
solid gate
Same here plus the kpz would be handicapped with its normal heat shell removed anyway
hollow belfry
Normal HEAT is fine. If you want missiles that much then just grind the US lights. No point in recklessly asking to add them on a premium tank.
solid gate
@hollow belfry no thats what i mean the normal heat is fine for the kpz if it was given the missiles it would harm the tanks behaviour and in a very negative way
They wouldnt and everyone needs to understand that the kpz 70 is simply not responsive or fast enough to be able to use the atgms comfortably camping in the kpz is a no brain move and somehow no brainers even acknowledge this
hollow belfry
The KpfPz70 doesn’t have the mobility and it’s gun angles are far less favorable than on the Sheridan and T92E1
solid gate
Exactly paired with the fact kpz is more useful in close quarter scenarios having a shell that travels slow and needs to be guided with a slow turret is already a bad combo for it
hollow belfry
You don’t want to miss when in a KpfPz 70, as it cuts your dpm by 25% and you will be on a nearly 15 sec reload. Better play at rather close range where you can make your hits count.
rapid orchid
KpfPz 70 or MBT 70
It has 152 mm gun that can shoot an ATGM like M550 Sheridan. But ATGM in T92E1 and Sheridan are enough...
tame jungle
Its an historical game though.
@sweet tree lol no
glass crypt
a game with mostly historical tanks is more accurate
gaunt birch
Bru the leopard guy called us idiots and noobs and called us shi.t
gaunt birch
Bru this game broken I had to like loose like 18 times I HATE IT
Like I always play on my account and wotb just wants my account to be a bot account Whhyyyyyyyyy
lyric oriole
3-4 can be bad luck, 18 times is likely a user error
swift harness
So I’m almost to a tier 7 medium and I have to decide to either get a panther or a VK 30.02 D. The VK 30.02 D almost out class the panther at everything other than armor. The VK have slightly better modules and leads to a better tank. Whenever I go into a match I usually see panthers and they are pretty good in action and the panther is more well known. I’ve went against a panther before and they are pretty good. Both tanks are good but what tank should I research first?
lyric oriole
VK 30.02D is actually worse in pretty much every manner than Panther 1.
Vk 30.02 D is terrible
gentle wasp
@swift harness listen to him ^^^ the Vk is awful. Panther is far better. Please do not get Vk.
lyric oriole
Even if the Panther is also using the 8.8cm, it's only getting slightly worse DPM which doesn't even hurt the Panther
gentle wasp
because it actually has usable armor
inland osprey
Any tips on playing the Chi-Ri?
It's as big as a barn with no armor to speak of, not to mention the low mobility.
gentle wasp
the gun is really nice, just try to get into quick farming positions. it is a hard tank to play well.
inland osprey
Hmm I'll try, but people like to focus on me, probably because I'm free damage
viral lodge
basically use your teammates as bait and play like a close flank tank and unload and hide
next solstice
they need to buff the e-75 because of his little brother tiger II is strong but E75 is a bit trash armor```
Nerf the lower front plate of the Tiger II ezlol
hollow belfry
Or learn how to use the E 75’s armor correctly
boreal shell
Tier tens can struggle to pen e75 front hull
hollow belfry
If it’s positioned right then yes
next solstice
It's kinda funny that the only thing the E100 has going for it, armor profile wise, are those 60mm side skirts and that ridiculous upperfront plate. Everything else is arguable wrose than the e75's armor profile
that didnt stop me from bullying a Maus yesterday tho, he shouldve angled his cheeks
tulip edge
"with no armor to speak of, not to mention the low mobility."
"Hmm I'll try, but people like to focus on me, probably because I'm free damage"
@inland osprey thats pretty much how i feel about my fully upgraded sta-1 lol.
inland osprey
Well, I feel like I will feel more comfortable driving the STA-1 than the Chi-Ri. At least the STA is half its height and moves faster than a tractor.
tulip edge
I was the opposite. I enjoyed playing the chi ri weirdly, but I cannot play the sta-1. Im trying to learn it as best as I can but i feel so useless, I feel like a paper thin centurion except my gun is mediocre
viral lodge
im on Chi Ri rn lol, its either amazing or crap (did enemy focus you yes or no)
tulip edge
Im planning to use the battle pass to skip and get the stb-1
viral lodge
Type 61 is pretty decent quite sure
tulip edge
Yeah but I just want the stb 1 lol.
inland osprey
The armor is downright bad, almost SP1C-level of bad. Everyone will focus on me because they'll never miss the broadside of a barn that is the Chi-Ri.
tulip edge
It doesnt help either that you have t49s, kv2s, and with the sta-1 t92e1
inland osprey
Also 155mm of pen, 186mm with prammo vs the recently buffed heavies is a pain
I will be getting the STA as soon as I have enough free XP to unlock it and its top modules
solid gate
How I hate rocket tanks... too op I think. Maybe in future won,t be this type of tanks... In which team is sheridan for example, always they win, if player in sheridan can play...
next solstice
I take it back, I kinda like the 120
wise turtle
I found the secret bunker tank
lyric oriole
If you are talking about the vehicle on Rockfield and Vineyards, thats a Sturmtiger
lyric oriole
Yes, the tank he is referring to in blitz isn't a Brummbar
kindred wren
The tanks you can find on Rockfield and Vineyards are both Sturmtigers
solid gate
Maybe yes. Idk really what you have on idea when you say about Rockfield and Vineyards. But in fact, there are two other tanks.
kindred wren
I'll show you
solid gate
Ok :)
kindred wren
The tank on Rockfield
The tank on Vineyards
Less foggy picture
You can take a look at them yourself in training rooms, just check my position on the minimap
solid gate
Ok, I understand. Thanks :)
kindred wren
You're welcome
solid gate
Should I sacrifice Rate of Fire for damage in T-34 Tier 5 tank?
gentle wasp
yes
shy hatch
The 5 cm gun performs better, less hits getting whooped away
hollow elk
i have a question about the Tiger kuromorimine why cant you use it in the realistic game mode
gentle wasp
just an anime reskin of a tiger, so not a real tank
hollow elk
but you can use the ankou and the firefly for examples
tulip sail
Proof the tiger 131 is superior
tulip sail
Tbh I said that as a joke and only just now looked up the stats and technically the kuro is better
hollow elk
really how
tulip sail
But it's so close in stats only the credit coefficient actually matters
hollow elk
oh you cant use the ankou
tulip sail
hollow elk
ok i see
tulip sail
Its interesting
paper solar
Bruh I bought the Löwe like 2 days back and now they have the discounts going. I wasn't even satisfied with the tank the day I bought it
solid gate
It’s a funny tank. It has it moments. I’m not very good with it.
calm inlet
Lowe is incredible
solid gate
Your a tank beast.
tulip sail
Also something I noticed is for some reason the m4a2e4 has more armour than the firefly Saunders despite having the same hull design
topaz sentinel
Does anyone have strategies in a T10 superheavy to deal the max damage possible even when your team falls in ~2-3 minutes?
This is a legitimate question: I've lost like 200 avg dmg in the E100 to this scenario alone
tulip sail
@trim lily no there the exact same hull just different suspension
trim lily
really?
i didnt know that thought they had different hulls
ohhh that firefly
i though you ment birtish tier 6 firefly
mabye diffrent armmor thiccnesses i dont have em
tulip sail
Nope that's why I said firefly Saunders
The British firefly has an m4a6 composite hull
Historically speaking they didn't but in game it doesn't make sense why it would be different either
solid gate
What tier X should I get first LEAOPARD 1 GRILE 15 T62 A OR DEATH STAR
tulip sail
Well that depends on what you want
lyric oriole
None of them are great options but I would do T-62A
tulip sail
If you want pain and suffering go leo1 or 183
gaunt birch
hi
tulip sail
Hey
gaunt birch
realllllllllyyyyy
gentle wasp
62a
gaunt birch
I’m just doing /tts but btw I got the amx 12 t
swift harness
VK 30.02D is actually worse in pretty much every manner than Panther 1.
Vk 30.02 D is terrible
@lyric oriole
Thanks lol
uncut kite
Church Game Carrier legendary camo when?
hollow belfry
They are removed from the game. You will not see them anymore
cunning python
Crusader needs speed buff..
forest rock
why is the Jpanthers engine destroyed so easily
rapid orchid
I don't recognize that...
It looks same
boreal harbor
They should make this camo for the jumbo Sherman
tulip sail
I fully back that idea
hollow belfry
@forest rock Hulldown, problem solved
solid gate
Man is 6 sides are just op
And i like em rn
@topaz sentinel be the one who push.... Blocking the hits not taking dmg and let ur team stay alive
Its the super heavy role after all
solid gate
buff fcm's hp and frontal armour
viral lodge
FCM is a med not a heavy 👀
tulip sail
Fcm has perfect armour right now you can get some strange bounces but it isnt impenetrable
gaunt birch
BRU WHY DO I HAVE TO JOIN LIKE A FULL SERVER OF VII THIS realllllllllyyyyy unfair how’s that so fair they know more than me :/
tulip sail
It's fair because it doesn't happen every game its simply an anomaly and besides you weren't the only one there was 1 on the enemy team aswell
frozen mural
20.00 destuction rate🤡
broken parcel
They should make this camo for the jumbo Sherman
I third that
solid gate
@frozen mural u rlly like ur vk just i like it
@frozen mural can u send me on private a gameplay of the vk k
frozen mural
U mean replay?
solid gate
@frozen muralyup
frozen mural
Im sorrry replay is too big or something like that im kind of diginubb
sly pelican
solid gate
The SU 152 is soooo good
frozen mural
Isu bl10gun is like ..... for u then i got 44 masterys in it💪
modern shore
@sly pelican I have the t57 not the sheridan, I don’t wish to add to the stem problem so I’ll pick the t57 any day
silent shell
@sly pelican the t57, due to play style. The sheridan is better at winning if played right, but seems like it would be harder to learn.
Everyone else, if you had the choice between the Fv215b, the Progetto 65, the FV4005, and the E100, which would you choose?
I like mobile tanks and/or getting up close and brawling. I have and enjoy played the fv4202 and obj 263, 140. The above tanks in question I have researched, just need to buy one and play it.
green cloud
hollow notch
I would go with the e100, but I haven't tried the prog65 yet.
sweet peak
why does IS7 not suck as much as it did in updates 5.5-6.8 ?
tulip sail
It got buffed
kindred wren
interesting question.
tulip sail
Gun always gun
shy hatch
^^^^
You won't be flanking enemies so pen upgrade before mobility
untold dirge
ok ill research as soon as possible
deft glen
Just got T92. OP even without using missiles xD
glass relic
The stock grind pain will be worth it after you maxed it out
thick trout
Don't worry about getting the second gun once you have the first one, go for turret then engine then tracks. The second gun is the one I prefer but it's much more difficult to use to its full potential and the top gun suits a normal heavy playstyle @untold dirge
glass relic
I find the 88 on the Tiger II is really fun because of it's DPM.
untold dirge
ill do my best then
thick trout
@glass relic The 105 L/52 (second gun) actually has better dpm as well as higher alpha and better pen than the 88.
Between the two 105s it's a choice between pen and depression against dpm
untold dirge
is that the t9?
glass relic
Yeah i know, but the thing is because of the reload for each shells are way faster than the L/52 so that's makes it feel more enjoyable for me. It's a good psychological effect to make me not suffer on the stock grind.
Better than being stressed out much in battle and lose some consistency's on how i play.
untold dirge
I just got the new gun for tiger 2
glass relic
You should've get the turret first.. for better survivability...
glass relic
The Tiger I got it's... Medium mobility good gun while having a reliable armor when angled cause of the buff
Well it's fine you'll feel more comfortable when trying to pen other heavies anyway unlike the 88mm it lacks the prammo pen.
Mainly it's German gun arc prob the special thing
And yes it's a well rounded tank because of the armor buff. The pre buff version was more like a heavium, cause of it's unreliable 100mm'ish of flat armor
untold dirge
goodbye sleep schedule since imma be grinding till e100
imma try and sleep if i can
keep going
it took me one whole day to get to tiger 2
rip
tulip sail
I never would have thought the M4A3E2 would have been as good as it is in realistic
vale heath
So whens the fv183 getting a well needed buff?
Its considered the worst tank destroyer in the game, and has horrible stats asides from the alpha
lyric oriole
It's pretty accurate, and it's not super slow, it's fine in my opinion. It can seriously out a damper on a tank and even shift the game as a whole in one single shot.
viral lodge
Its the type of tank that shouldnt be balanced relative to other tanks. (Its the type that doesnt belong in game)
noble trout
How do I get my collector Pz.III A back I sold it back then but the blitz portal Ain't letting me restore my account's tankies?
peak ferry
is it worth to restore Panzer IV Ankou SP?
haughty moss
please give the T54E1 HE shells
dapper panther
is it worth to restore Panzer IV Ankou SP?
@peak ferry
if you're a collector: yes
if you prefer efficiency over appearance and/or number of tanks in garage: no
solid gate
fv 183 was nerfed of its frontal turret and hull armor. i think it needs that rebuff again
hollow belfry
183 is a bad tank, wich is fine. If you don't like it just play better tanks. If it needs one thing it's to be removed from the game.
tulip steeple
black prince has worst t7 damage it sucks
glass relic
Well for alpha it's really low, but in DPM wise, that thing will be going pew² like a machine gun crippling enemy's health, prema track, and keeping them annoyed every 3 second
hollow belfry
@tulip steeple Black Prince doesn't suck. It's got a monster DPM (over 3k), pretty good armor against same or lower tier tanks and has access to the special consumables. I don't see why it should suck. Comparing only the alpha is not how to properly judge how good a tank is.
hollow belfry
Saying that the BP has the worst alpha amongst T7 tanks isn't even right.
AMX 13 57 exists.
glass relic
Gravediggor too
hollow belfry
^
rancid mauve
I’ll ask here since people like to skip over questions in other channels..
How does the Progetto perform after all its nerfs? Just got it!
zealous anchor
I like it still
glass relic
It performs basically the same supportive type of mediums but only lacking on some small speeds i guess.
hollow belfry
I'd say it's still ok. Good clip, not very fast neither it's got laser accuracy. But the front plate and mantlet still get bounces
boreal harbor
Progetto is ok. Used to be better but now I’ve gotten used to it
rancid mauve
Okay good to know! Didn’t it get mobility and gun nerfs?? I don’t remember the specifics
boreal harbor
I believe that was all they did
glass relic
Yeah but the gun is still nice.
boreal harbor
It’s an average medium gun for tier 10. Accuracy wise
hollow belfry
They did nerf it's gun handling and mobility, but it remains good enough.
I'm more interested in the Leopard 1 and WZ-121, but probably will grind it afterwards.
rancid mauve
Yeah I was interested in the WZ-121 as well but already have the Progetto researched
hollow belfry
Already have the E 50 M and T-22 medium, a bit of exp left to the STB-1. I really enjoy medium tanks
zealous anchor
Two very stronk mediums it is no wonder, and a third coming up
hollow belfry
Yep. As said, looking forward to the Leo (about to buy the T9) and still a long way to the WZ-121. 113 also interests me.
zealous anchor
For me I think I will grind the heavy line first even tho I love the meds...wz120 tier 9 has too many modules and the line looks like it has many modules so I will try to shave off some by grinding the heavies first..eg the engine
hollow belfry
Yeah, a friend of mine just finished his 120 grind. It took ages. The number and cost of the modules seems ridiculous to be honest
lofty saddle
100mm or 122mm for T-34-2 ?
wise moth
122mm
lofty saddle
Ok thx that’s what I thought
inland osprey
I've been having fun with the Panther, the gun is amazing
3 seconds reload on Panther with adrenaline lol
spring osprey
I've researched and played the panther before, and since the Tiger II is so strong nowadays, is it worth it to grind the tiger 2 through the Panther instead of rebuying the Vk 3601H and grinding that way
inland osprey
I'd say it's down to personal preference. The heavy route might teach more about how to play them, but if you're already a good player then going through the Panther is also viable.
Personally I'd go through the Panther since I liked it a lot.
real pulsar
@spring osprey its a significant amount of xp more to grind for the tiger 2 from the panther
@inland osprey I like it to but it gets old fast
spring osprey
How much does it cost to research the tiger 2 from tiger 1? Is it like 78k exp?
inland osprey
108k from Panther and 78k from Tiger 1, so yeah you're right @spring osprey
spring osprey
But if I go from 3601H it would be 45k for tiger (I think), then 78k for tiger 2, which is 113k total vs 108k from panther. Do you unlock any of the tiger II's engines on the tiger 1?
inland osprey
Yes you're right about the cost.
The Tiger 1 top engine is also the Tiger II top engine iirc.
rancid mauve
Lol the VK is an absolute beast. I blocked about 5k damage a couple months ago in it 🤣🤣 Tiger I also amazing and then the Tiger II is pretty dang strong💪🏻 so if you choose the VK route, you’re going to have a lot of fun bouncing everything and bullying everyone
kindred wren
And maybe you'll find the answer to the question when WG lost the concept of "balance" on the way
opal dew
Hola
broken turtle
the kv-1 is so damn bad. Terrible accuracy. What playstyle should i do. Side scrape not always possible due i can't find any good place in low-tier map
hollow notch
It is balanced by the same people trying to balance the t1 heavy. What do you expect?
foggy sinew
😀 just use APCR it you cant pen them
tardy granite
Im trying to decide what are the advantages over the jackson or the hellcat
like what path is better ?
glass relic
Hellcat speed
Jackson got quite trolly turret and decent frontal, while having better DPM over Hellcat.
And the jackson path is way better because you'll be getting the E3 at tier 10
tardy granite
ok
gentle wasp
yea hellcat is prob a better tank but for grinding purposes go for the Jackson
viral lodge
Or just get both
lyric oriole
I would recommend doing both at the same time personally. It's easier to get guns early or grind guns on some tanks over others. T25 AT will get you the 105mm, it'll be easier to use the T28 Prototype to get the 120mm gun than normal T28. It'll also be easier to use T30 instead of T95 for the 155mm. But T110E3 is better, T110E4 is a major downgrade from T30
urban raven
i think you guys should give fv4005 a legendary camoflauge
viral lodge
”The Barn”
hollow belfry
They said « our goal is to make legendary camos for all tier X tanks. Very roughly, the more popular a tank is, the faster it gets a camo. »
@urban raven
hollow belfry
I think it does.
urban raven
cuz the people who has the legendary camo always has the laser, so i thought, did they bought the attachment and the camo?
hollow belfry
I couldn’t tell, currently not owning the Sheridan.
urban raven
oh
hollow belfry
Not really interested in grinding it neither. I have some other thoughts for now as next T10s.
thick trout
@urban raven There is no attachment, the camo adds the laser and other things
urban raven
ohhh
swift harness
I’m trying to save up for a new gun for panther. I could either get the cheaper gun which has less penetration (-5 penn to 145 penn) with more damage (220 dmg) or a more expensive gun which doesn’t give you any more or less dmg (about 160) but it puts your penn all the way to 198. I’m getting both guns but which gun is better for the panther?
calm inlet
@swift harness you're gonna want to run the 7,5 cm, but the 8,8 cm is actually pretty decent. feels good to have some alpha, and the accuracy is pretty close to the 7,5, but the lack of pen makes the gun pretty challenging to use
i already had the 8,8 from another German line so I ran that as the stock gun, and then eventually got the 7,5
swift harness
@calm inlet Thanks for the answer but does this apply to the Jagdpanzer IV too or should TD do more damage instead of penn
calm inlet
@swift harness for Jg Pz IV, definitely go with the 8,8 cm
swift harness
Oh thx 🙏
calm inlet
you get 200 more DPM, plus 70 more alpha per shot
you lose 5mm's of pen and 0.02 dispersion, which are basically irrelevant
swift harness
I could go with 145 penn for a tier 6 Match and I rather des more dmg
swift harness
Yeah the fast reload
hollow belfry
Panther’s 7,5cm L/100 is a true laser, and the tank overall is pretty good. Jagdpanzer IV’s dpm is really high although the engine is pretty weak.
untold dirge
i need help in looking for a good playstyle for tiger 2 to make grind a lot less painful
solid gate
Use ur frontal and dont expose ur sides
next solstice
Aight I change my mind I LOVE THIS THING
solid gate
@untold dirge its so ez to over angle in tiger 2 and its track wheel can be hit even if the sides are red( after a certain angle)
And u have not to get ur turret open too much cuz they will have enough time to hit ur hatch then
hot jolt
Hey guys, i want to know how did soo many players know where is ammo and how to ammorack, can someone help me to know where it is?
calm inlet
@hot jolt explore to your heart's content https://armor.wotinspector.com/?targetVehicleId=5377,11010,8963,11780&mode=xray.modules&platform=blitz
change the target to whatever tank you want to look up
tulip sail
All I have t o say is become a tank nerd and you will soon learn
hot jolt
I'll try
misty wing
In what order should I research the modules of Ho-Ri T2
glass relic
I wondered it too, since i just bought it.
pastel drum
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sly vortexBOT
pastel drum
oh fck, I forgot
spark marsh
Tbh,the IS-4 could have a Second Gun option
fast wadi
Anyone know when Mk6 is coming back into the store been waiting 2 months
glass relic
My bet is that, it'll be on Christmas
cunning python
Hm... I’m just asking this, that if there is a way to counter those Sherdian’s and T92E1’s Shillelagh. It would be the M
Accidental send sorry. Again, It would be the Tank’s MG. Unfortunately, it would change the gameplay and the strategy of the game. But there will be tracer shots and can affect the position of using itself as carelessly shooting it around.
tulip sail
Theres a few ways but it depends on the situation
cunning python
Also, the premium M6A2E1 needs health buff due to its larger size. Tiger P and KV 3 has more health than M6A2E1.
The firepower is okay and the speed is fine but the health of this tank needs to increase as instead of 1400/1494 HP but to 1600 at least or higher.
Correction: 1400/1484 HP I mean.
next solstice
Honestly, the dpm for the missile tanks is so low that if they're on one flank, you could theoretically just push in as a group and just overwhelm them with pure dpm.
The issue then, is if your fellow meds would agree, since most meds, if not all have overwhelming superior dpm
The missiles just make uncoordinated teams fail even harder.
neat nimbus
is the camos still in offer?
next solstice
wdym, i don't think there were any limited time camos, but the new ones are still there i think
neat nimbus
you pay less gold discount
open solstice
Which is bettee e100 or is7?
undone dragon
how do you become a beta tester?
novel locust
I like the e100 better but i feel like its harder for new players to get the hang of the tank
viral falcon
The maus is actually a lot harder to play effectively. You need excessive teamwork, armour and angling knowledge, therefore the E100 is better suited for new players.
broken turtle
😀 just use APCR it you cant pen them
@foggy sinew
give some money, u can't always use apcr, especially u want to grind credits quickly
hard nexus
winning earns more credits than losing because you didnt want to spend 2k extra credits on a shot
glass relic
Especially when you do a great amount of damage, it'll compensate with the amount of credits that you lose from firing those prammo
More damage=More credits
hollow igloo
Hellcat
tulip edge
Jackson line gives a better tier 10 @solid gate but hellcat line gives better tier 9. Both lines have a trash tier 8
hollow notch
The t28 proto is fine. The t28 is utter garbage that needs some sort of buff
How did the tiger 2 even get considered for a buff when the t28 existed ?
tulip edge
Trash is probably too harsh for proto but yeah t28 is literally the worst performing tier 8 td. I havent played it in ages so I wouldnt know exactly what they would buff, but going against it its been too easy to just keep hitting the lower plate. They could possibly buff that, it would still have the cupolas as frontal weakspots like t95
fringe notch
I hated the T28 Proto enough that I decided never to attempt the T28. Takes a much more skilled player than me to get anything worthwhile out of the Proto and I can't imagine the T28 would be anything other than an exercise in self-abuse
tulip edge
Lol i did the line when i was a new player, Im thankful I did because the E3 is so strong in random battles
hollow notch
I rebought the t28 for the lolz thinking that at least the gun is monstrous. The thing has dpm and pen, but the accuracy is also garbage, trashing the damage output too
tulip edge
And good luck shooting it when people can just flank you and they can damage you and track you at same time
open solstice
Which one do you guys think is better suited then for aggressive player,e100 or is7?
Because is7 was very forgiving for me throughout the crew mastery but i don't feel like I'm getting used to e100
glass relic
Tbh I'd say the IS-7 because all you can do is going for a good hulldown position and abuse the turret
But the E-100 might be better because you can angle your tank wherever you want when you're going to push the enemies or an early aggressive position, but it'll punish you if you overangled it.
open solstice
Angling is really tough on e100
Even if i try to angle,every single player on enemy team has prammo apparently
Is7 i could just show my turret and just stare at deathstar
Also e100s weakness is its turret itself which is hard for a beginner like me to angle
hollow belfry
The problem is that people don’t learn to angle the turret throughout the line. In all the tanks before, you don’t have to angle your turret while if you don’t in the E 100 you will just be a HEAT magnet
glass relic
I actually angled my Tiger II turret frequently because i can bait shots with it's side turret cheeks i know risky play, but worth the survival because people'll shoot my cupola/shoot through the turret cheeks.
Am i doing something wrong here?
kindred wren
You actually shouldn’t angle the turret in the same manner as you’d sidescrape, but wiggling is ok. Only the E100 turret should be angled in a sidescraping manner in that line
The Maus line on the other hand goes from not angling at all at the Tiger (P), to slightly angled with the VK 100, to fairly angled with the Mäuschen and finally overangled with the Maus
hollow notch
Making armor weaker to bait shots is perfect practice for mausing
(Gotta be wiggling constantly)
kindred wren
You don’t actually make your armour weaker for baiting with the Maus. You can overangle and the side of your turret is still impenetrable
hollow notch
You dont want them to HE spam you. And if you can tempt high pen guns to use ap instead of prammo, it is worthwhile
kindred wren
The thing is that they will always penetrate you if they know where to shoot even with standard. The overangling only fools people into shooting your turret sides which they can’t penetrate even with prammo, while your turret front can always be penetrated with prammo
glass relic
Haha i maybe stated the wrong words there but yeah, all i did was wiggling and i know it'll be a death sentence to angle my turret and makes it a stationary... When side scraping
hollow notch
You gotta go right on the line where the side becomes penetrable and wiggle that rapidly. It manufactures bounces
kindred wren
It’s approximately a 45 degree angle
hollow notch
And that lower plate is also great shot bait.
kindred wren
But really good players will shoot prammo at the turret cheeks, and the wiggling won’t help you against that
hollow notch
Oh yes it does when the hit the mantlet
kindred wren
If I meet such players I usually stop angling my turret, close the distance and stick my gun into theirs to make them shoot the mantlet
The cheeks are massive, they have to get very unlucky to hit the mantlet
hollow notch
I make them shoot the side •_•
When you traverse th e hull and turret in the same direction, the cheeks move rapidly
kindred wren
I was talking about players that don’t shoot the side because they know it’s bait. You don’t make them shoot the sides
hollow notch
I wont stop giving them the sides until they shoot
kindred wren
So you hide the cheeks behind cover
glass relic
Well i rarely faced such players so probably couldn't wrap my head around on trying to mess their aim with the mantlet and gun barrel since most HT will likely to shoot my frontal plate when they're facehugging me to, decrease their chances on bouncing cause of the mantlet and gun barrel
hollow notch
I was considering a close range hull down
glass relic
That usually happens whenever the HT line got overrun by the reds somehow Shrug
kindred wren
It’s not to mess with their aim, it’s to make them shoot the mantlet
The gun barrel trick only works when the enemy uses HEAT, HE or third person
glass relic
Well yeah of course... That only works with those kind of people... But who would shoot heat at that condition.
hollow notch
I love my maus. It never needed the buff it got.
Plenty of tanks require heat in that sort of a situation
kindred wren
Most of the heavies didn’t need the buff
glass relic
Well by mean plenty are mostly lower tiers and LT/MT.
hollow notch
Being able the completely ignore a stock tier 9 is a great feeling.
kindred wren
I once had a 1 vs 1 with some toxic try-harder unicum in a noob account that tried to troll people into 1 vs 1s in the general chat. We made a best of 3 and I won one of the games by supremacy caps (he capped first, so it was fair game) and one of the games because he failed to HE pen my Leopard 1 with his Leopard 1 while I was just shooting standard because why not.
I played in my Maus during the engagement that I won with supremacy points, and all I did was tracking him and getting into cover until it was to late for him to work through my hp with his prammo. I kept bouncing of his T110E5 and generally lost, but won anyways because of the points 🙃
glass relic
Stock tier 9s will mostly be dealt with in the first place anyway
kindred wren
That was so much a TOG II* strategy, just using hp as armour
So he was actually playing better in all three of the battles, but I won the best of three anyways because I just played better on a strategic level
glass relic
Those kind of people generally doesn't have a clear sight of strategy and couldn't keep their calms down in that situation.
kindred wren
But that was actually the only 1 vs 1 I was seriously losing in my Maus, but also the funniest one
glass relic
He played it more like of a pub tactic in my perspective.
Hahaha yeah.. tracking him overtime will surely make his blood boils
kindred wren
I had another 1 vs 1 with a player of DSK1L (Deadly Skill, they are proud of using next to no prammo (and they were before the prammo nerfs)); we both had a Maus and it was a Random battle, what basically happened was that we had our private fight on the flank while the rest of our teams were murdering each other elsewhere.
The funny part is that we both didn’t shoot any prammo and were just slowly grinding each other down over the course of two minutes, until his platoonmate and the remains of his team came to finish me off
hollow notch
Maus on maus action is very fun. But I usually just prammo their upper plate.
woven stone
Hopefully this tank is good...
glass relic
Well it is a stronk tonk
kind bluff
It’s ok
shy hatch
Bruh no idea but it looks chad enough
lyric oriole
The gun can't hit much but the armor is good
mental harbor
Hello. Can anybody tell me if the Object 252U is any good? is it worth the credits?
tulip sail
Its good but not op
gentle wasp
@mental harbor yea its decently cheap for a t8 prem and the armor is really strong. as he said its not op but really good tank
tulip sail
You've got to hide your absolutely massive lfp though and accuracy is as good as you'll need it for the kind of range you'll be using it at
gentle wasp
yea lower plate is really weak but turret and upper plate are solid and the sides are trollish
tulip sail
Even my T34 occasionally bounces the side
mental harbor
Ok Thanks! In your opinions what is a "must have tank"?
tulip sail
Every Sherman
mental harbor
Ok again thank you!
gentle wasp
@mental harbor depends on your budget, skill, and playstyle
tulip sail
No only m4s are necessary
mental harbor
I don't have a great big budget but am willing to buy a tank that is worth it. Love TDs and heavies, but recently have been trying to become more profieint on meds and lights.
M4 I do like the Shermans, have a lot of them. I like to stick with historically accurate tanks. Will buy the occasional odd tank.
tulip sail
I have every one of them in game
mental harbor
I know this is probably a tough question but which Sherman is your best choice?
gentle wasp
@mental harbor if the history is important try to focus on getting the Tigers and Panthers as well as Is3. those are all strong tanks and very vital to the history
tulip sail
@mental harbor rev or e8
gentle wasp
^^^ i second that, rev is excellent if you play it with a bit of finesse, and e8 is solid. try to get your hands on the legendary camo
mental harbor
I have up to Tiger 2, IS3, Panther1, working on Panther 2, E8, don't have rev but will now try to get it.
tulip sail
But if you want something a bit different story but play something similar to the e8 the loza is a good tank
I'd recommend the fury since it's an all around better M4A3E8 even though its actually an M4A2E8
But the only problem is when they sell it it's super expensive
mental harbor
I have seen the Loza for sale and passed at the time cause I didn't know anything about it. Will look at it seriously in future. Haven't seen the Fury for sale, I must have missed it.
gentle wasp
how about the russian meds? if you like that line, the Rudy is sold a lot and is pretty cheap. great tank
tulip sail
The fury has been sold once since like 2016
gentle wasp
for a ridiculous price too wasn't it $100?
tulip sail
No it was 15k gold
mental harbor
I have worked up to the T44 in the Russian Meds, working on getting the T54. I have the T54 Mod1 and really like it.
tulip sail
And yes this guy bought it for 15k
gentle wasp
wow
tulip sail
It was the last one I needed for my collection
mental harbor
Gentlemen, thank you for your input. It has given me some good info to consider. Thanks again! cya
tulip sail
Np
hollow notch
@tulip sail 15k? The auction started at 30k
and people still bought it at full price
tulip sail
Was it 30? Tbh I dont remember I bought it about half way
jolly crag
Add m1a2 Abrams with sabot
hollow notch
Whyyyy
tulip sail
That really really doesn't fit in the game
hybrid flint
viral lodge
Jg Pz Line is easier and T10 is better
misty wing
What's the general consensus on the japanese TDs
gentle wasp
meh
kindred wren
Good-ish, but nothing amazing
north bloom
lmao this does not look balanced
kindred wren
They didn't really create much attention or controversy
It's the black hole that eats shells which you can find on most Russian heavies' sides
north bloom
wdym most
kindred wren
Because most Russian heavies have that 'HEAT protection' on the sides
misty wing
IS- tanks have this sharp angle over the tracks that is basically autobounce
elfin edge
exempt: st-I and is4
little lynx
what consumables should I run on the 62a
broken sentinel
@little lynx Adrenaline, Multi-purpose Restoration Kit, and Repair Kit (actually, that's what you should run for the vast majority of your tanks).
little lynx
thanks
solid gate
How good is vk 36.01 H ?
thorny mulch
Very good. Even stock its amazing 😉
solid gate
Nice, ima go buy it then
thorny mulch
Gl in the battlefield. Make sure to bring a good amount of pramo the pen is a little bit worse that other tier 6 heavies and avoid facebugging Arl44s. If you can save up some free xp for the turret
solid gate
My problem is just kv-2
thorny mulch
Don’t worry kv-2 will be the least of your problems
solid gate
Ok thanks for the help
thorny mulch
No problem
haughty moss
Please give the T54E1 HE shells, theres literally no reason for tanks not to have HE
glacial maple
calm inlet
@glacial maple
visual hatch
the arl v39 isn't that good of a tank. I really wish the devs could buff the french td line in some way (not the foches) because it seems like it gets outclasses by any german td.
calm inlet
i love the V39 lol
you have to play it aggressively for sure, don't bother trying to snipe
steep current
I just came by to say GG to WG for giving SU-130 PM troll hull armour. It wouldn't have been good enough without thick enough armour to autobounce tier 8 meds, well done!!! 🙂
visual hatch
i love the V39 lol
@calm inlet hey can you please explain to me the actual hitbox of the tank? i don't understand if the area within the tracks counts as the tank or if it's spaced armor.
calm inlet
@visual hatch the track itself is essentially spaced armor. if a shell goes through the tracks and only the tracks, it won't cause any HP damage to the tank
however, its pretty simple to be able to shoot through the track and cause HP damage if you're at the right angle. that's how you can be tracked and take HP damage at the same time
visual hatch
so this doesn't have any spaced armor? it just seems like it does
worn swift
How's the VK 30.01 (P) on Blitz? Because it just got nerfed into the ground on PC.
hollow belfry
@worn swift I played it as a heavyweight Cromwell with bigger alpha and it worked pretty fine. Not as fast to accelerate but top speed is pretty good, turret front is mostly protected by the gun mantlet. Not a bad tank imo
candid harbor
safe rock
unkempt mulch
What is a Akawara
glass relic
Hmm you can check it out by using dvpl extractor for it so, you can look into the extracted version of it.
coarse panther
Is3 defender needs a buff, its over expensive and for that money it should be good
low elk
its a balanced tank right now
it does not need a buff
shy hatch
Play harder
coarse panther
It’s probably like the is3, it should has faster reload but longer clip reload
hollow notch
The hitbox on blitzhangar for the o47 confuses me
There is just a hole in the turret covered with spaced armor
shy hatch
It's probably just like that, probably an original part of the turret structure
hollow notch
The problem is that it is so rare so I really can't test it out
vague adder
Guys Change my mind WZ-122-2>OBJ 252U
low elk
WZ112 is better than 252U
but 252U has a better damage gun, better camo, and better armor on some areas
misty wing
112-2 is indeed better than 252u
viral falcon
122-2 is definitely better.
solid gate
Where can i get help for account issue?
next solstice
What equipment, gun wise, for the jageroo
ivory glacier
@hollow notch I have 0-47 and I’m on NA. If u wanna test it out it’s fine with me
ocean nebula
Wargaming please buff the t22 at least just a little bit on the armor
noble wren
Buff the thing sticking out on the churchills 7 side :v
next solstice
Wargaming please buff the t22 at least just a little bit on the armor```
You're joking right
swift trench
Y does ISU 152 SU 152 and ISU 122S have basically the same hp
Other than ISU 152 having 10 more hp then SU 152
calm inlet
well, the ISU definitely does not need more HP
its fine where it is. that said, it is a bit unnatural for it to have only 10 HP more than its predecessor
swift trench
But why they have basically same hp not saying it needs more or less hp
Is it that they have almost same turret
Or same chassis* i think thats what its called
sharp gale
The 152 is definitely a glass cannon as it should be. And even then the nice ball surrounding the gun that deflects anything takes up around 25% of the front of the tank that gives it a good amount of bounces.
hollow notch
The 215b(not 183) has 0 more hp than its predecessor.
broken turtle
but it has a derp gun
hollow notch
@broken turtle do I really have to specify which tank I am referring to by saying which tank it is not?
tulip sail
@swift trench the isu is based off of an Is chassis while the su is based off of a kv chassis
broken turtle
@hollow notch oh sorry i didn't read carefully, btw the 215b have a pretty good gun, and due the 6.10 update buffed heavies tier 6-9 hp so i thought wg buff quite a lot so....
hollow notch
Lolz
frozen moth
For no returns*
kindred bone
GERMAN destroyer paper armor or Russian SU destroyers ?
shy hatch
Armor for turret exchange, pretty balanced
Rhm is kinda poir with the dead depression, but Waffletraktor gets really good
inland osprey
Rhm is pretty good imo, but of course the Waffle is probably the best tank of the line
hollow moth
I'm playing on the chinese IS-2 recently, it looks a nice tank
This is the armor profile of the tank against average tier 7 pen
And honestly the 122mm gun is awful, but I love it
It's a extremely blind gun, you can miss a tank even if it's 50m away from you
But at least it's a 122mm damage in a tank that let you approach the enemies sometimes without any problems
I'm using CS too, I think 175mm pen is just too low for tier 7, and I lose only 133 dpm or 0.95 secs reload
13.58 reload for me isn't something too high
I'm used to deal with the 15 secs of jageroo
solid gate
Is this normal
hollow moth
It doesn't look like a Krupp, lol @solid gate
solid gate
Looks like a TD
hollow moth
Looks like SU-130PM
solid gate
But in small
hollow moth
And with some technical problems
ashen monolith
Personally I think that wg should add the ms-10 to blitz ;)
hollow moth
@ashen monolith are you a rookie?
ashen monolith
Do you mean that in terms of new to blitz?
hollow moth
Did you play before 5.5? @ashen monolith
ashen monolith
Yes
hollow moth
So you know where is our MS-1, IT'S GONE
ashen monolith
Yes ik I'm talking about a joke video on the wot na YouTube channel
hollow moth
@frozen moth Hey bro don't do It, it's illegal by EULA
ashen monolith
main wharf
WG get rid of missiles, I’m getting shot over a hill with missiles while I’m in my Wz 113. What do you expect me to do? Role up the hill and start shooting missiles back at him? I’m tired of facing them head on. After 4 years of playing this game I’m really not loving it anymore do to the missiles. Crates I don’t really care about as much, because the missiles are worse. Ps: Update 5.5 is the worst update you guys have released.
hollow moth
@frozen moth on EULA says that you can't sell, give, trade, etc accounts, it can make you banned
ashen monolith
I recently got the t92e1 and tbh the missiles aren't that great
frozen moth
Sorry it's my brother doing it, hes pissed messaged my at my email and I will apologise
solemn tundra
I got the maus and realized missiles ain’t really effective
tender granite
Sherdian is awesome
ashen monolith
@tender granite agreed
hollow moth
Lol @solemn tundra
solemn tundra
The apcr tho is quite annoying when it pens
tender granite
lmao up with atgms
main wharf
😵🔫
tender granite
good for u
main wharf
Absolutely hate you people