@compact sierra I would go for the t37. In the end you will get a T57 Heavy tier 10 which is powerful and has auto loading (I think)
#vehicles-discussion
vague palm
silver mortar
And if I can ask again.
If there is someone here who has researched fv183 and can tell me how researching through tortoise, at15 , .... was like?
@compact sierra I hate to advise you to go chaffe but if you want good tech line with broken tier IX and X with ATGMs then go chaffe
compact sierra
@vague palm Ok. Thanks.
gaunt birch
How much does a how much is the damage of a medium tank?
vague palm
Mind that it will be a pain to play as tanks like that in that line from tier 6-8 I think, they have no armor, but deal lots of damage with auto loading guns.
visual jolt
@silver mortar I free xped all modules on the AT15 and Tortoise. It will be living hell if you play them stock
But they aren’t terrible with top modules
silver mortar
@visual jolt thx. and same goes for lower tier ( at7, at8 )?
viral lodge
Lowkey why would you go up the 183 line without FXP
visual jolt
@silver mortar those tanks aren’t fun stock, but it’s not as bad as playing the tier 8 and 9 stock
vague palm
Should I get E100 next or Jagdpanzer e100 next?
visual jolt
@vague palm I would say E100 because OP heavy tank HP buffs
silver mortar
@viral lodge that is why I am asking, because I have 350 000xp + another 50 000 free xp from this battles pass. So I can skip right through all tanks to tortoise with top gun
@visual jolt thx
visual jolt
@silver mortar I wouldn’t recommend using that much free xp on a line that leads to such a let down of a tank
open solstice
Is the repair cost of wz113 changed?
On blitzstars it has the same number as the is7
glass otter
They should buff the speed on the heavy american TDs
glass relic
Aren't they meant to be slow and having a good armor to bounces off rounds, while packing a big punch just to compensate for the speed.
glass otter
the only one with armor is the T95, the other 2 have toilet paper as armor
silver mortar
@visual jolt okey thx for advise. So I will do like you said to only skip modules to top, but normally research tank.
@glass otter E3 is very well armored tank and doesn’t need any buff ( also E3 speed was buffed) , E4 is weak now, but it’s speed is okey, E4 need turret buff, or better say cupola buff. T30 again great tank, maybe better to keep this in garage then E4. T30 doesn’t need any buff ( nor speed buff )
glass otter
I mean't both T28s @silver mortar
silver mortar
Ou then totally agree on t28 ( still I would like to see frontal armor buff on t28 more, then speed buff ) and t28 Prot. is good, maybe a little bit faster turret speed so you can wiggle it more effectively.
tulip edge
The t28 and the e4 are what mostly need a buff rn at the american high tiers
solid gate
Whats the best research path for the Bulldog?
onyx venture
The only reasonable buff that I can see them doing for the T28 prototype is to slightly buff the side armor to making angling more effective and to buff the hull traverse speed to better handle light tanks
pliant sonnet
@vague palm The maus is my only tier 10 aswell, all you need to do is angle your cheeks, if you are up againts an is7 or something with a trash gun you can get away with over angling you turret. with your hull try to keep your top plate angled because you don't have the greatest amour even though you do, just load the gold and your top plate becomes similar to a leo 1's top plate, easy penetration, so if you are face hugging make sure your front plate is on an angle so it is much harder to penetrate. when you go back an fight just keep that in mind
@solid gate all I have done is just free xp to the chaffee, bought it, got it maxed, sold it and just spent free xp up to the bulldog.
glass otter
Is the T-34-2 playstyle the same as the T-34-1?
kindred wren
More or less
low elk
basically the same tank
but moved up a tier
pine jolt
Can they make European tank destroyers
tulip sail
What ones do you suggest them adding?
kindred wren
Don't say the Swedish. You'll only be disappointed
broken turtle
swedish tds are weird
glass relic
I wonder if they'll add the smovetes and Zyrinvi tank destroyer, more likely not.
crystal hare
E100 or VK 72.01 K
viral lodge
E100 @crystal hare
pine jolt
How about some Italian and Yugoslavian tds and the TKS Tankette
solid gate
New tank heheh.
glass crypt
i'd love to see a t1 tankette
glass relic
Idk if Tankettes will be even viable here, probably their fate will looked similiar to the T7 car and Light VIC probably
solid gate
@pine jolt Italian casemate SPGs and a TD with a turret similar to the WT Pz IV could be added up to tier 7. After that I do not know.
Does the T82 still have the derp?
@solid gate Nope
I’m going to post a few British tank names. Wondering if they are real or this Reddit post I stumbled upon which was done a year ago is by a misinformed person.
CVR(T) 105 aka CVR(T) No. 11
FV4401 Exp.
Vickers 13t
Vickers No. 46200 T Nickname: Vickers 40t
tight void
Whatsup @solid gate
tulip edge
@solid gate is6 is the worst of the 3.
I prefer the t34 to lowe
broken sentinel
Lowe if you're relatively experienced and really want credits.
T34 if you're exceptionally experienced and know how to go hull down.
IS-6 if you're braindead (the IS-5 exists and only costs 1500 gold; the IS-6 Fearless is also free inside Ratings)
@solid gate
haughty moss
What do you guys think of the t54e1
rapid orchid
T54e1?
haughty moss
yea
calm inlet
@broken sentinel IS-6> IS-5, and the Fearless is not free unless you have a few overpowered tanks and the ability and desire to play Ratings for 8 hours everyday for 2 months straight
broken sentinel
@calm inlet true, but the IS-5 is a way better deal
calm inlet
its the best deal in the game
broken sentinel
And the IS-6 simply isn't worth it imo (I can attest, I own it)
calm inlet
that said, you still need to play a few thousand battles before you can get the IS-5, so won’t work for totally new accounts
broken sentinel
True, but you can also get a ton of other premiums just by saving up gold that are way more worthwhile if your account is new
calm inlet
idk, i kinda like it, ngl
broken sentinel
Maybe it's just me then. I generally don't care for the Russian copypaste tanks
calm inlet
my goal was 70% and 2300 damage but its slipped recently. nonetheless, its kinda underrated
you have to run the DPM gun and rammer to be able to do anything more than mediocre, but that requires the driver to have a brain while playing. you have to play it like a slow medium, brawling with heavies will be the end of you
broken sentinel
The T34 and Lowe are way more worth it imo. Both offer distinct playstyles that actually allow you to do stuff reliably. IS tanks can only really brawl or go hull down in specific areas
calm inlet
i picked it up about a month and a half ago when it was offered in a package, so this is post-Tiger II buff lol. Tiger II is the best counter against the IS-6 for sure
broken sentinel
true, and the Lowe is a close second 😉
calm inlet
yeah, T34 and Lowe are both excellent in their own ways, but IS-6 has the firepower advantage in terms of DPM
eh, Tiger II stands out because its literally unpennable frontally to an IS-6 with the DPM gun
You can just switch to premium and pen the Lowe’s lower plate pretty easily
ofc, i do get some cheeky shots into the Tiger II cupola occasionally
broken sentinel
DPM? The IS-6 has worse DPM than the T34 and the Lowe. The Lowe actually beats it by 300 DPM and the T34 beats it by 100 (unless you may be using the AP gun, not the APCR gun)
I mean HEAT just butters the Tiger II's front
calm inlet
yeah lol ofc, you don’t run the pen gun on the IS-6
pretty worthless, might as well play almost any other IS tank. the first gun makes it unique at least so it can stand out
broken sentinel
bruh, that is certainly not my type of tank then lmao
If I wanted to go around with 175mm of standard pen, I'd play the mod 1, which actually has a decent rate of fire that doesn't punish as hard if I dont pen
sharp spindle
I'm currently grinding the Pz IV G, should I go for the Tiger I or P?
broken sentinel
Tiger P for more armor, Tiger I for more mobility. I personally think the Maus line is a bit boring (until you get to the Maus itself, which is very fun) while the E100 line is great (although the E100 is a little underwhelming at times).
sharp spindle
Alright, thanks.
I love my HTs in Blitz, but I'm not really used the the Heavium playstyle, so I may go for the Tiger P.
broken sentinel
The Tiger I isnt really a heavium
Since they buffed its armor, it's gotten pretty great. The german techtree doesn't really have heaviums outside of the E50M line
sharp spindle
Do you think the Maus or the E-100 is more fun to play? I'm looking to go all the way up their respective lines.
broken sentinel
I mean they're great in their own ways. The E100 has a really fun 150mm derp gun while the Maus really rewards tactical play. It does take more skill to make the E100's armor work but it is also slightly more mobile. It's really up to you though, I recommend going for them both at some point (maybe grind both lines at the same time and figure out which tanks you like to play more?).
steady zodiac
are they gonna nerf smasher its way too much op for no reason
sharp spindle
Thanks for the advice, I reckon I'll go for the Tiger P line first, then give the Tiger 1 a go.
broken sentinel
Ok, I must warn you though, the VK 30.01 P doesn't have much armor. It's best played as second-line support. The top 88mm gun (the one with 220 average damage per shot) is very fun to use and you can pair it with your mobility to out flank and out damage your enemies
sharp spindle
Alright, thanks. I'm currently saving up free xp to just be able to get the 88mm on the VK as soon as possible.
broken sentinel
Just be sure to use peek-a-boom tactics, where you pop out, shoot, and pull back (even if you don't get spotted). That way you minimize the damage you take while you maximize the damage you deal.
sharp spindle
I appreciate the advice, I'm not exactly the best player, especially at German vehicles. (1.3k battles)
broken sentinel
Dont worry. Practice makes perfect and as long as you're willing to learn, people will teach you 🙂
sharp spindle
Welp, time to grind out the rest of the xp and credits to get the VK.
broken sentinel
have fun lol
sharp spindle
I'll try
glass crypt
in my experience the vk P gets targeted cuz you damn hurt
haughty moss
what do u think of the T54E1
broken sentinel
Kind of a mediocre tank now. It needs 350 average damage per shot to make it even remotely relevant nowadays
haughty moss
I actually think its quite a good tank, if you play peek-a-boom in a support role you can farm damage, and deal 900 at a time
sharp spindle
Besides the 88mm, what modules should I go for first on the VK 30?
broken sentinel
Turret, Engine, Tracks
In general, pretty much always go for the top guns/turrets first. Then you can choose between the tracks and the engine (whichever one gives the most benefits).
sharp spindle
Ok, thanks.
shy hatch
Lol they sure kept the best gun
winter jungle
I. Need. This.
solid gate
@shy hatch Wydm, the 105 is best
shy hatch
@solid gate
(Sarcasm)
civic terrace
@winter jungle the Romanian td?
pliant nexus
pliant lodge
Why does the SU-130 behave like a Grille 15? It's already been heavily nerfed. While Scorpion just laughs, like WT.
shrewd compass
ah
light venture
how much is the frontal effective armor of the tiger 2?
atomic void
Lets add wtf auf e100 yeeee lets goooo
gentle wasp
@light venture about 236 upper plate
light venture
thanks bro, just wondering cus i dont know why the lowe keeps penning me
speaking of tiger 2,they should buff the reload and pen of the tiger 2(not saying its not enough), just saying it could need one
gentle wasp
Ah nvm it’s like 225 unangled and Lowe has 234 pen so yea. It really does not need a buff, borderline OP rn
light venture
how about its reload? like 9.4 seconds, same as the t29 which is a teir lower
gentle wasp
*nearly the same and the pen and accuracy is far better. The gun is fine
light venture
ok you got a point
good night imma sleep now its like 10:20 in the philippines
gentle wasp
Gn
summer ibex
damn Su130PM is NOICEEE
echo knot
So, T37 or Chaffee?
i have no LT in tier 6 or above.
gentle wasp
@echo knot t37 is better, plus you have the option of autoloader gun
echo knot
@gentle wasp Okay. Thanks for the suggestion, mate.
i just dont have much experience with LT. So, i wanna try some LT.
gentle wasp
@echo knot they are both pretty good and the single shot guns are basically the same. Also try Vk 28.01, it is really fun
solid gate
@orchid verge didn't I already warn you for your username.
Since you decided to change it back I'll give you a few days to think of a better name.
calm drumBOT
xd wrocilem#8210 was banned
solid gate
The Blitz Stars peeps keep messing up with some of the credit coefficients? Well I mean if WZ-110 has 92% base and you add 60% that’s 152% not 148%. How did they get 148%?
@gentle wasp Uh no. T37 is a bit taller and has 1 degree less of gun depression. Also has slightly worse frontal turret armor. Not that that armor makes a difference with light tanks. T37 might catch shots on tracks a bit more since it has wider one but that’s it really. Also running the autoloader is a stupid idea.
@echo knot I’d try the Chaffee first.
tardy granite
Privet message me if you want to talk about British tanks
solid gate
@tardy granite In game or just in general?
tardy granite
@solid gate whatever
solid gate
Ah, ok.
thick trout
@solid gate It's 60% times the 92%, so it's 92%*1.6=147.2%. I'm guessing the actual exact coefficient is about 92.3% its just rounded down
solid gate
Chaffee does have slightly better concealment and has better credit coefficient than the T37 plus lower repair cost. Chaffee does seem to have less horsepower and slower top speed but I’d still say it’s the better American tier 6 light tank.
@thick trout Oh. Ok. I didn’t understand their math.
thick trout
It isn't obvious at all but no problem 👍
gentle wasp
@solid gate 37 has the same gun and better mobility. As you said the armor doesn’t matter, so for a light tank I would take the mobility.
bitter lichen
speaking of tiger 2,they should buff the reload and pen of the tiger 2(not saying its not enough), just saying it could need one
@light venture ikr, I feel like the tiger 2 need a little rof buff
solid gate
They should buff luchs hull traverse its a boat now
thick trout
@bitter lichen The tiger 2 is probably the second best tier 8 atm, only behind the WZ120FT it really doesn't need any buff at all
solid gate
im having a lot of trouble picking which other t10 tank i should get, what do you guys enjoy or think is enjoyable, ive been thinking about the batchat line a bit lately, i could honestly sit inside the tech tree menu for hours and still not know what to get
solid gate
only have the jg.pze100 atm, and i researched the is-4 a couple days ago but i need the credits
@tulip edge
tulip edge
I have been enjoying using the T110E3 in random battles. I basically play it as a heavy tank, putting it in aggressive positions because of its good frontal armour and gun depression.
The line itself to the tank isnt awful, the worst in the line is the T28 for sure.
@solid gate
solid gate
ill give it a shot, i did already get down to the t30 on the other line anyways so itll be a breeze with having some of the modules unlocked already
tulip edge
Just telling you, you'll find it either amazing or extremely frustrating to play the T95. It either bounces everything and carries, or your team doesnt support you at all and you die in your spawn to flanking meds. My experience anyway
solid gate
lol hopefully it goes well then
Hmm
I am quite a new comer, and so far I am into tank destroyers.I've unlocked and researched UK and USSR's tier V tank destroyer.So who should I choose?SU 85 or AT 2?
tulip sail
Su85
swift harness
@solid gate They both are good. AT 2 has really good armor while the SU-85 does a lot of damage
tulip edge
You will want to uninstall after playing the tier 6 and 7 AT
swift harness
I was wondering what premium vehicle is the best
tulip edge
Any specific tier or just in general?
swift harness
Probably tier 8
tulip edge
I have no idea if it got nerfed but the wz 120 1 ft was disgustingly broken when I played it months ago.
swift harness
I heard about it I think it got nerfed. But is there any other tier 8 premium tank that is good or fun?
boreal shell
obj 252u, action x, skoropion. wz, lowe, t34, etc
swift harness
I heard that the Lowe is good but I’m not sure if the T34 or e IS-6 is better
tulip edge
I prefer the T34 to lowe personally. Abuse ridgelines, good gun, not horribly slow
low elk
Lowe is an infinite credit hack
T34 is great
IS6 is ok
tulip edge
Never choose the is6 pls
swift harness
Oh so it’s either the Lowe or the T34
low elk
i mean IS6 isnt bad after the heavy buff
but why get IS6 when you can get the Lowe or the T34 which are just better
tulip edge
Yeah exactly
swift harness
Lowe and T34 are cheaper than the IS-6
low elk
its up to you
if you want more credits but lower alpha and overaverage armor, go for Lowe
if you want less credits but high alpha and extremely stong turret armor and a TD gun, go for T34
swift harness
So the T34 is just more interesting and a bit more fun and the Lowe is a go to tank when you need credits
low elk
yep
lowe is the tank that earns the most credits on average in the game
T34 is basically a hull down heavy
id personally go for lowe over the T34 but i think they are equally great tanks
tulip sail
The only tank I prefer for credit grinding is the Angry connor or the rev
swift harness
Does the T34 earn a lot of credit even though the Lowe earns more?
tulip sail
Its pretty good just not excellent
solid gate
Well damn starting to wish I bought the Lowe back then instead of the is-6
tulip sail
I mean the is-6 is a fun tank just not a super competitive one
solid gate
I got it cuz I thought it was the best credit grinder haha
swift harness
Lowe does more damage per minute
tulip sail
Oh lol
solid gate
This was forever ago tho so I wasn’t as knowledgeable about the game
tawny flame
i grind credits with my jagdpanzer E100
tulip sail
Tbh I dont remember when I got the is6 or lowe
solid gate
Isn’t that the worst credit coefficient at t10
tawny flame
nope, worst in the whole game
tulip sail
Ok scratch that I dont remember getting a lot of tanks
solid gate
I cannot find who tagged me but I think the Chaffee having smaller size and better concealment somewhat counters the slower mobility. Mobility is great but it doesn’t always work on these small maps. If you need to fight on ridges the Chaffee is better for poking without showing much and at a distance it’s harder to spot. At least before it fires that is. Both the T37 and Chaffee have their pros and cons but I’d take the Chaffee over T37.
thorn scarab
What’s the reason the Leopard 1 isn’t a light tank?
slender perch
Because it's a medium tank.
fluid valley
@narrow rampart
calm drumBOT
_Loseee | ELEM#5093 was muted
solid gate
can i buy multiple gold packs in the same time interval? pls help
broken sentinel
Depends on what you're looking at. If it has a limit in the store, you cant get more than that limit. If they don't specify that there is any limit to you buying that bundle/offer, then you can get it repeatedly. For example, you can buy $25 of gold repeatedly, but certain offers like getting 2 crates for the price of 1 are generally 1-time-only deals
solid gate
Actually the Leopard 1 is an early MBT if I’m correct.
Ok after some excessive grinding I went from 25k to 424k, time to buy the SU 85
Looks like its worth it.
hazy fulcrum
This tank is like a canvas, anyone with a amx30b and the premium pass: I recommend putting your special camo on yours
solid gate
@solid gate SU-85 is ok I guess but I personally feel it’s outdated now. Buffing it wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Lowe IS6 or T34?
tight void
Hey guys can talk help me
low elk
?
tight void
Is the t54 Mod 1 worth 7k gold?
solid gate
Yes ish
low elk
its ok
gun is horrible to play
armor is the only redeeming factor
if you want a good gun get something else Mod1 sucks at gun
tight void
What about the t55A
solid gate
T-55A is a worse T-54.
low elk
T55A is definitely not worth 10k gold
last time it was sold it was at the vaule of 3500 gold
@solid gate its a modified T54
not worse
solid gate
And this coming from a guy who hasn’t played T-54.
tight void
What it was worth 3500? Wowwwwww ima wait for those type of prices
solid gate
@low elk In game it’s worse I’m sure.
T55A has better turret and gun hull is worse though
low elk
@solid gate no its not worse
its the best of the 2 guns for a tradeoff of some armor
not worse, modified
solid gate
@tight void I’d get a tank that’s lower than tier 9.
tight void
Okay will do, thank yall for the help 🙏
solid gate
@low elk Well it feels like crap. Hate the thing. Gun is ok I guess but the armor is crappy and the mobility probably isn’t any better than T-54 really. Regardless it’s not worth buying. Especially if you have the T-54.
@tight void By the way you have any premium/enriched tanks already?
vast owl
🤔
tight void
@solid gate yes I do, I own the KpfPz, K-91, Super Pershing, Progretto 46, type 62, pz 111 A, t7 Car and bt-sv
solid gate
WZ-111 5A you mean?
If you have K-91 you have a decent (not great but I’d say decent) tier 9 already. For a medium with mobility and decent(ish) armor that’s premium that’s hard to figure. Of course you can enrich tier V-VIII tech tree tanks too but that’s more costly than buying a premium.
lost valve
Lol mod1 is so powercrept
solid gate
Mod 1 is ok but it’s not going to do much another medium cannot.
lost valve
I remember like 2/3 years ago the tank used to be considered the best tier 8 premium med, times have changed and newer introduced tanks have smacked it out of place
The gun is weak because back then there wasn’t so much OP tanks
solid gate
I may have gotten the Mod 1 a bit late and found it more of a struggle to play. But I may have played it before the Pan-Euro line was added. You are right though. It’s no longer the best tier 8 premium medium.
lost valve
If WG actually tested their crap like the mk1 and the AX...
low elk
they did
lost valve
Well they didn’t test it greatly? Have you seen how op they are
solid gate
The Defender Mk 1? Yeah not as easy to play as the YTs make it look.
low elk
they tested it
but dosnt mean they have to nerf it after testing
lost valve
It doesn’t matter how hard it is to play, it is 100% better than their tech tree variant
And this ups the idea of p2w
solid gate
I tried it. The hull is crap just like the Centurion. Try to hull down it but fail. If I cannot do it right a newbie or idiot will fail even harder.
low elk
@solid gate nice joke
anyone with purple stats will play it and win easily with it
lost valve
Find a good player in it and you’ll see why I dread it so much
solid gate
@low elk I’m not talking about those guys. I’m talking about us average players. It’s no joke.
Apparently there’s a minor weak spot on the side somewhere along the direct side and turret I managed to lol pen it in a T49 with HE
And newbies and such are going to fail with it even harder. Not as easy to use as it looks.
lost valve
Even if you’re a unicum you’ll still think it is OP
low elk
@solid gate nice joke
but average players still excel with the overthetop drum and the extremely good mobility along with accuracy
just cuz its hard to play does not mean its not OP
solid gate
Well the Action X I can somewhat agree with but the Defender I cannot.
lost valve
Mk1 defender isn’t even a difficult tank
If it has clear advantages over its tech tree variant, it’s unfair and pay to win
solid gate
Well I only played a few battles in it. Those first few are sometimes tough because you haven’t learned the tank yet.
low elk
@solid gate dude just cuz you suck at the tank does not mean its not good
lost valve
And I hate to say pay to win, because buying tanks doesn’t come with the skills. Skills are learnt, not bought. But in this case the tank is stupidly better than the tech tree
solid gate
@low elk I didn’t say it wasn’t good but it’s not THAT good in my opinion. Overestimated.
low elk
@solid gate its good enough for pro players to choose it over the AX
lost valve
Mk1 defender and AX are honestly goon tanks.. no skill needed
solid gate
The only argument that it’s better than the tech tree is that it has a 4 shell autoloader and has spaced armor on the turret.
lost valve
That’s enough of a clear advantage already
solid gate
Well the spaced armor doesn’t cover the whole turret and I feel the AX does the spaced armor better.
high aspen
Their tanks. Find a tactic for them. Tanks r for killing not primarily made for games.
lost valve
If it is better than the tech tree variant, it is unfair
low elk
i wonder what 254 mm of turret armor reminds me of
lost valve
That’s what a player who spams these tanks says @high aspen
solid gate
You know what? You’re right in that regard. But the Centurion I was never really that popular anyway.
lost valve
Bruh 254mm vs 165mm
low elk
this mobility hmm
i think i can abuse it
@solid gate so now the DM1 is a paid version of the CMK1 and now you think its ok just cuz you suck at it?
lost valve
It’s fine to settle for a debate, but not be too aggressive or argumentative
But honestly, the mk1 has like everything better than the centurion
low elk
no i used to suck at the T92 and i thought it was balanced
i learned how to play it and i think its completely OP
solid gate
I didn’t say it was Ok but good but not as good as you claim. Yes it’s better than the Centurion Mk III but I don’t agree that it’s highly better. Especially in the hands of those who aren’t super duper unicums.
lost valve
The thing bursts 800 in like 6s..
solid gate
Action X does it better anyway. So AX is better than Defender Mk 1.
low elk
heres what droodles blitz has to say
solid gate
Hold up why did they give both 1k+ horsepower that’s straight up direct upgrades over the tech trees counterparts
lost valve
Because WG don’t know how to balance
Why do you think we have stupid tanks that are expensive?
low elk
the DM1 is just as OP as the AX
they have different playstyles but the turret and gun are what makes the Tank broken
solid gate
I disagree with Droodles. The downfall of clippers is exposure time vs a single shot that can keep poking. Of course AX has less mobility. It’s a heavy so more armor.
low elk
the clip does 800 in 6 seconds...
thats enough to half hp a med, light or TD in tier 8
solid gate
Only if you can get it out without getting smacked for similar damage in return from the big guns.
It has broken turret and front hull armor
low elk
what other tank in tier 8 does 800 in 6 seconds and has a great turret
if you get smacked by more guns then ur playing it wrong
oh god are you that bad at the game to realize that you can hide between the 2 seconds?
or that you can just only show the turret and then noone can pen you?
lost valve
If there’s an enemy mk1 defender/AX platoon, you know you’ve lost
solid gate
Or multiple other mediums smacking it. I haven’t figured out how to play it. Maybe you guys are right but for now I merely have to disagree until I understand the D Mk 1 better.
lost valve
Hulldown medium with a stupid turret and gun
low elk
dude
none of your prem tanks have over 50 games
ur basically a massive wallet warrior with bad stats
lost valve
And to piss on it even more, they added spaced armour to the already good turrets.. what was the reasoning for this at all?
solid gate
I know you can pull back between shots with a clipper tank but it doesn’t always work for me. A skill I’m far from having mastered.
low elk
then dont talk like you know how the tanks works when you dont
do i have to present evidence and use your stats against you when i dont want to just to make you realize?
solid gate
I haven’t played that many games in them because went back to grinding tech tree man. But the premiums are there for if I need to grind credits and/or get bored of grinding. Don’t tell me about my stats. I don’t need to be talked down to. Makes me mad.
If your playing on touch a trick you can try to learn is delaying your shots for instance keep your thumb or trigger finger almost directly near to the button and when your ready to peak/unload you can slide your thumb right over apply pressure and unload a round instantly
low elk
what i have for you as advice
stop buying new prems
start learning what you have
please
if you want to toon with me to learn how to play im here
this entire server can help
lost valve
We are always here to help you
-unicum player
proven folio
id not say that lol. As good as some ppl are others are toxic XD so say like half of the server
low elk
the toxic people are usually gone
proven folio
I remember when i made streams i said i was streaming and like 5 players telling me to go hang myself like bruh
low elk
LOL
thank god i dont stream gameplay
only test tanks
solid gate
lost valve
What’s this
low elk
high res picture of WG's new tier 10 prem light tank with 500mm of armor
solid gate
BNG light tank. It’s from a game called War and Beyond Deadly Strategies.
Lunar I don’t want your advice by the way. Not reading that. If I wanted advice I’d ask for it.
Anyway......
lost valve
So you refused to learn
Well, you’re not forced to. But it is the best advice for you..
low elk
dunno lets drop the topic
he might be a for fun player
thats fine cuz thats what i started lol
lost valve
Should we discuss ATGM?
low elk
i think ATGM is a dead horse by now
we'd be beating the dead horse if we discussed it lol
proven folio
ATGM isnt rlly dead since they can still shoot from behind cover: lets face it the only way to make ATGM balanced is to remove it
low elk
i meant that people discuss it so often that almost every aspect of it has been discussed and theres no reason to discuss it
lost valve
It’s similar to the 183 and KV2, very difficult to balance because of the high damage shots
low elk
also the speed
and the size
and the accuracy
and teh pen
and the alpha
and the ATGMs looping
a lot of problems that WG just cant balance
what we may consider to be balance may in fact make them more broken or way too bad
WG does not want that
though looking at the track record for WG balance team i think they have no idea what they're doing
lost valve
Ratings is filled with OP tanks, it’s just not fun to play anymore
low elk
Ratings at least now has a reward
a tier 8 prem with a special camo
but thats it
not anything else
not even like league of legends where the skin has different effects for different rank
lost valve
There should be something for the platinum league players too I think, not only a camo
proven folio
KV-2 needs a buff though since it has:
Bad armor
Bad gun pen
Bad mobility
Etc
I just cant see WG doign this cuz WG wants a newbie friendly game
lost valve
KV-2 doesn’t need a buff at all, the ability to one shot things is too much anyway...
glass crypt
tbh i see the kv nerf as being good cuz you're forced to use diversity in your ammo types, AP is no longer ignored
lost valve
76mm of HE pen is good enough
proven folio
True there but KV-2 is also suposed to be a fun to play tank wich its not
low elk
problem with WOTB ratings is that anyone can grind to plat
and that the only 2 ranks that matter are the diamond and plat ranks
gold means nothing
silver is a joke
bronze might as well be the worst rank (oh wait it is)
what WG should do is increase the rank count
Iron, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Plat, Diamond, Masters, Veteran
or something with more tiers
and make the ranks harder to climb higher once you reach the 1k interval
with a 3/5 game system that kicks you down if you fail 3/5
lost valve
It’s disgusting to play
glass crypt
you are guaranteed to one shot t5 tanks with AP that has more than enough pen, that's enough
proven folio
Uhu and when you meet tier 7 your completely screwd
lost valve
And what if you can’t pen? Oh yes, let’s use HE and deal 400....
glass crypt
tbh you're a t6 tank vs t7's, you aren't supposed to be bossing the higher tier tanks around
lost valve
It’s already unfair doing that amount of alpha in tier 6
low elk
KV2 needs its 152 gun removed
183 needs to be gone
those tanks rely on RNG and their opponent making a mistake
those tanks are skillless to play and are completely braindead
they award trash for clicking once and RNG doing the rest
they punish pros too hard
doing 1k to a random tier 7 heavy when they are hull down is not fair and balanced
2 shotting a tier 10 heavy isnt fair
lost valve
SU 152 is worser than smasher in my opinion, because SU 152 is a camping machine with excellent camo and does insane derp shots..
glass crypt
call me crazy but i think i'd like the kv to be a t7 counterpart to the su-152, same gun stats except the kv has a turret
low elk
its unpouplar opinion and the only reason WG keeps them in the game is because people love it and because its a symbol of the game
these tanks completely ruin low tiers and even high tiers
they are not fun or balanced to play against
@glass crypt thats the smasher
lost valve
Honestly though, SU is more annoying than smasher
low elk
glass crypt
oh yeah i always forget the smasher's tier, mb
low elk
im fine with the SU and the ISU derp though since their HP is extremely low
but the KV2 has good armor, good HP, and a turret
what the hell
they punish too hard for one mistake
thats not balanced
lost valve
KV2 and 183’s buff is called removing it
low elk
if i was to make one mistake i should not expect to be blasted for half my HP while hull down
if i was sidescraping i should not be blasted for 400
if im playing COD on a light and the KV2 from across the map hits me for full HP that is not balanced
thats BS
lost valve
That’s why I hate playing my light tanks, we have campers in derp tanks
low elk
those tanks ruin the games for others just to have a single laugh is selfish and bad for the game
theres a reason WG nerfed them to the ground but didnt remove them
lost valve
So, I turn this corner and we have a KV2 or whatever that derps me, laughs his ass off and keeps clicking
low elk
oh and did i mention you lost half your crew, your modules are broken, and ur on fire?
lost valve
Or possibly, worst case scenario an ammo rack
low elk
module damage is low on KV2 lol
lost valve
Hm
low elk
never been ammoracked by a KV2
lost valve
A lot of tier 6 lights are completely trash because of the KV-2
low elk
i wouldent say that
since i never actually let my self near a KV2
lost valve
In tier 6 there’s tons of KV-2 campers, that’s why I said that
solid gate
@lost valve I never said that. Also I am not a new player in case y’all have made that mistake.
low elk
its sorta keeping the game alive
thats what WG needs
see the KV2 is a sign of Derp and fun
thats what players want
lost valve
Well I’m glad I hardly play tier 6 anymore, nearly all tiers are messed up tbh
low elk
drop the subject this is getting annoying
why cant we cry about KV2 in peace @solid gate
solid gate
Cry about KV-2 huh? Why not Smasher?
lost valve
Remember when the wotb community had a giant uproar because of KV-2 revising like a 10mm HE nerf, and that equipment that reduces HE damage
low elk
i mean tier 8 is pretty fun
you got the oh god why did they buff the heavies
@solid gate because we know we wont see a smasher nerf
but we have a hope of seeing a KV2 nerf
solid gate
And I had to leave for a bit because was looking at my tanks anyway and uh had to do something else that was irl thing for a moment.
lost valve
Smasher ain’t getting a nerf at all, in fact the opposite because WG buffed all heavies for what stupid reason is unknown
low elk
yeah some people think KV2 and 183 is the figurehead of wotb fun and derp
its needed for the game
WG cant gut it
solid gate
Smasher is just a gimmick for those who love KV-2. KV-2 already got nerfed like twice.
lost valve
Remember when the IS line used to be the blitz symbol?
solid gate
A gimmick that costs money though.
lost valve
And who knows, maybe smasher ain’t coming ever again at all
solid gate
When was that? The IS line thing. Before and/or after +2/-2 MM went away?
low elk
Smasher was orignally designed to be a KV2 at tier 7
with the SU152 stock gun and worse DPM
WG had THOUGHT it was balanced and so they hired an art designer that designed tank girl and made the smasher
WG had THOUGHT the community would think it was good and they would find it fun
then the community to WG's surprise found it to be broken
and so the crate sales ensued
lost valve
The IS-3 is symbolic of blitz(used to be anyway..)
I wonder who was the smasher’s artist
low elk
https://www.blitzcadet.com/
this guy
solid gate
sighs I’m not feeling happy right now. Dang earlier convo. Grrrr. I’m going to go back to YouTube.
lost valve
It’s dropped dude, we want to discuss something else
low elk
we dropped it harder than [censored joke]
solid gate
Still lingering on my mind. I don’t mind learning and trying to be better but..... Ah screw it. I cannot form the words after that. I’m sorry guys. See ya.
lost valve
Take your time, stay safe
low elk
yeah my bad as well
just wanted to make a point
lost valve
Things like the smasher though.. do you reckon the next(if ever) time it comes, it’d be a crate again
lost valve
It took ages for the second release of it too, meaning WG are unwilling to sell it too much
low elk
there have been 3 releases of it in total
lost valve
I only recount 2
low elk
first launch, smasher crates, and tier 7 crates
those were the 3
lost valve
In the tier 7 crates I think smasher would’ve had the lowest chance, WG never stated the chance of the tanks either
low elk
not the lowest
the drac, helsing, and the gravedigger have the worst chances
i have a chart of the drop chances
lost valve
Hey, can you show me?
low elk
T23E3 5.6818%
M6A2E1 5.6818%
T28HTC 5.6818%
T-34-85“Rudy” 5.6818%
IS-2 5.6818%
SU-122-44 5.6818%
ISU-122S 5.6818%
“Panther”/M10 5.6818%
VK 45.03 5.6818%
Tankenstien 4.5455%
E 25 "#1" 4.5455%
FV201(A45) 5.6818%
AT 15A 5.6818%
62式 (type 62) 4.5455%
AMX 13 57 5.6818%
M4/FL10 5.6818%
“Dracula” 1.1364%
“Werewolf (lycan)” 1.1364%
“Helsing” 1.1364%
135G“Blaze” 5.6818%
Smasher 3.4091%
this is in chinese but
i of course have very good translation skills to translate oh god i missed the type 62 im dumb
lost valve
Lol I hope these crates come again, it’s the step in the right direction
low elk
as you can see
smasher has the second worst drop chance
but still better than the drac, helsing, and lycan
lost valve
You are Chinese? Or did you use a translator?
low elk
im chinese
made in china as well
though havent typed chinese or wrote it in a long time
can speak and read
lost valve
Lol I’m half Chinese
low elk
tbh im sick of WG not showing us drop chances for those tier # crates
lost valve
I’m not fluent in Chinese, I can understand some things when people speak it though
low elk
M60 16.0000%
Chieftain Mk.6 4.0000%
121B 20.0000%
T-22Med 4.0000%
FV217“Badger” 8.0000%
WZ-111 5A 12.0000%
AMX 30 B 16.0000%
T95E6 20.0000%
for instance look at this graph
this is completely BS
lost valve
Well the best are saved for the lucky ones
zealous anchor
Oo T95E6
lost valve
T-22 is broken lol, and that’s the reasoning of the lowest chance
low elk
T95E2 2.8736%
T26E4 2.8736%
T34 2.8736%
Chrysler K 2.8736%
T26E5 1.7241%
M6A2E1 EXP 2.8736%
T34 2.8736%
T-54M1 2.8736%
T-44-100 2.8736%
IS-6 2.8736%
252 U 1.7241%
KV-5 2.8736%
IS-2Sh 2.8736%
ISU-130 2.8736%
M 41 90 2.8736%
58M 2.8736%
VK 168.01(P) 2.8736%
E 75 TS 2.2989%
Lowe 2.8736%
SKorpG 1.1494%
88JT 2.8736%
SS88JT 2.8736%
Chimera 2.2989%
C/T95 2.8736%
59T 2.8736%
59-P 2.8736%
T-34-3 2.8736%
WZ-111 2.8736%
WZ-112-2 2.8736%
112 2.8736%
WZ-120-1G FT 1.1494%
Lorrane 40 t 2.2989%
M4A1Upgraded 2.8736%
AMX CDC 2.8736%
FCM 50t 2.8736%
M35/46 2.2989%
“D” Mk.1 1.1494%
T28“D” 1.7241%
IS-3“D” 1.7241%
you want the good tanks out of tier 8 crate?
Dont worry we made all of the good ones have extremely low drop chance
lost valve
@low elk surely you know the Chinese word that’s pronounced a bit like the N word though right?
low elk
ive had over 20 people ask me that and its getting boring at this point
i use it quite a lot because thats just how it is
lost valve
It’s not racist, it’s a foreign word
low elk
yeah its normal for people to talk in chinese then suddenly use english and then chinese --- all the people who think the chinese are swearing when they say it
lost valve
Do you speak Cantonese?
low elk
i speak mandarin
born on mainland up north so i have no idea how to speak Cantonese
but hey this isnt vehicles discussion
lost valve
It’s interesting but let’s get back to vehicles lol
In your opinion, do you think the 252u is op?
low elk
its not
its easy to pen for anyone with aim
its much better than the PC one with 200+ mm lower plate
broken sentinel
In my personal opinion, it is. There are just more OP tanks than the 252U that overshadow how OP it is
lost valve
It’s balanced by the lower plate
low elk
its also balanced by the god awful gun
like what the hell
lost valve
That gun is horrible to use, even more horrible than the IS-2 1945’s
broken sentinel
1.) The gun is not awful
2.) The lower plate is not hard to hide
3.) The side armor is better than the IS-8's for some reason
low elk
oh let me aim for the lowe in front of me
oh no my gun missed
what a surprise
it missed again
and again
and again
OH NO
lost valve
The pen of the premium ammo though, trash
low elk
but id rather take some tank with legit accurate gun and better armor and mobility
the defneder mk1
lyric oriole
252u basically has T49 shooting on the move accuracy as an example
broken sentinel
That's Russian accuracy for you. Most of the time you just need to get in close, which isn't hard considering how good the armor and mobility are
lost valve
At least its alpha is slightly different
broken sentinel
And no, its accuracy isn't nearly as bad as you're making it sound
lyric oriole
The accuracy is pretty troll
low elk
if those tanks came for the same price
which they did
i would take the DMK1 over the 252U
because i dislike the depression and the bad accuracy
DMK1 simply is better
lost valve
Too many people are overconfident in 252u and rush too hard, and then they piss themselves and say “hackers” or whatever
low elk
though i would not want to face a unicum in a 252U without backup
the 252U is still a very strong tank in the hands of a good player
broken sentinel
Except for the fact that being aggressive actually rewards those people since that's literally what the tank is supposed to do @lost valve
lost valve
I mean, like people are too confident using the 252u
low elk
there are also idiots in AXs
they get punished harder than idiots in 252Us
lost valve
Because they usually forget about their lower plate
low elk
not only that also because their upper plate when not angled is also easy to pen with gold
and because their lower plate is massive
even some tanks' HE/HESH/HEP can go through the AX lowerplate (looking at you RU and StandardB)
lost valve
The turret is harder than IS-4’s but compensated by having cupolas
low elk
also the rear armor is REALLY fun to HE
40 mm is so juicy
broken sentinel
If you can even call those things cupolas...
they're incredibly small and hard to hit
lost valve
No they aren’t
low elk
AX coupolas are too far back to hit easily tbh
if hes hull down you have no chance of hitting it
lost valve
lol I love when T49’s fail their HEAT at the rear of my 252u
low elk
only with the great blessing of the RNG gods can you hit the AX coupola
and yeah
same with IS6
T49 can also fail to pen IS6
though its funny how IS6 is called Obj. 252 in the game files
lost valve
It is the obj 252
The Object 252u, you can say is a variant of the IS-6. Even look at their rears very similar
low elk
then why did WG mess around and be like
oh yeah lets call it the IS6 instead of the 252
lost valve
The factory name of IS-6 is object 252/253
broken sentinel
Right, so I can easily hit that? With a medium tank gun? Right...
low elk
252 sounds better and its just more "historical" whatever that means
252U would make it sound like an upgraded 252
lyric oriole
252 Ultra 🙃
low elk
252 make a U turn and run away because you cant pen me
Bad joke
see the enemies attempts at penning a hull down AX is like a circle
its pointless
insert laugh track
lost valve
Gtg, thanks for the conversation
low elk
yeah im gonna head off soon as well
but i have to see what CM777 has to say
broken sentinel
Also the argument that you cannot angle because of the pike nose is absurd. Angled at 45° you have at minimum 245mm of armor.
low elk
true
but the tank isnt that OP compared to others
broken sentinel
It completely outclasses the IS-5 and IS-6, so idk what you mean by that
low elk
AX, MK1, a bunch of other tanks are better
but yeah it outclasses the others
it outclasses tech trees
but it gets outclassed by other tanks as well
broken sentinel
I mean yeah, there are tanks more OP than it, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it itself is still OP
low elk
60% global WR for the tank ¯_(ツ)_/¯
broken sentinel
That's just proving my point. Anyone can pick that tank up and run it at 60%
low elk
though while its OP i would not pick it up
isnt fun nor amazing in any way that i would consider to be a selling point for me
broken sentinel
I mean yeah, I try to stay away from OP tanks (the exceptions to this are the Chieftain and Progetto 46 for me). But I'd never pick anything up simply because it'd be a great pubstomper
solid gate
Smasher is (the) one tank I didn’t want to buy even before they started putting it in crates. Also realized VK 90.01 P wasn’t worth going for in the last Christmas event. There are a few new premium/collector/enriched tanks I didn’t want to go for. SU-130PM not going for because they all say it’s similar to Skorpion G which I already have and am not good with. Plus it’s in crates and I refuse to buy a bunch of crates. Maybe the 1 bundle that is 2 for the price of 1 but I’m trying to break myself of buying crates since the incident with the AMX 30B crates. Of course I may have done it once or twice since then which was dumb I know. Very dumb. But now they are doing this thing where you can buy 25 crates to get the tank guaranteed. But I need to stick to my word from now on and not do crates. Of course some the YouTubers tell you not to but buy them themselves just to show you the tank. Seriously though we all should quit buying crates if we want them to quit doing them. Sadly some idiots won’t quit buying them.
strange thicket
@low elk KV2 doesn't need to be nerfed further more or removed
Horrible accuracy bad armor and it is a heavy and you know what that means when it comes to view range and camo
A light tank can cod you or even just traverse from your turret like you are a turretless td
It gets a small amount of troll shots which are extremely rare and 100%rng but then again that is pretty much it
it extremely punishes mistakes seems like the only thing it can actually do and is not as often to happen
If you are a light you need to be punished for your mistakes and if it is not a kv2 then the other time is most likely to delete half of your hp
camping kv2 means a gun down for the other team really if they sre camping and doing ambush style of attacks but once spotted you can just stay away from that spot it has many down sides and it is there for punishing idiots
Same goes for the deathstar with shit camo armor and mobility and not even a full turret
If an e50m or something similar were to take on you, you are screwed and any light especially the new ones can just cod you and call it a day but of course there is still some rng to it but once you are spotted a dumb player would stop in front of your area so yeah that is basically it
They are even underperforming
And also those kv2 shots across map is really really really so unlikely to happen
I even tend to get really close and brawl in a kv2 to get shots but you might do 1 shot in a battle
If you wanna talk about disgustingly effective derp machines then look at su and isu 152
Good camo and mobility and troll mantlet and decent accuracy and dpm
Basically the down side of them is 0 armor and the small hp pool (1k hp at tier 8 lol) but they are fairly accurate and their camo and allow them to punish mistakes even more effectively than a kv or deathstar a couple of times within a match
solid gate
KV-1S once was the big daddy of tier 6 before KV-2. Now both are not big of a problem since KV-2 got nerfed and the KV-1S has just been left behind by other tanks. However, today I smacked a poor dumb Pz IV S player who got himself in the wrong place and face hugged by my KV-1S. He kept hitting the gun/mantlet. A bunch of bounces happened because of that. I also bounced a shot from a Tiger P and an IS with it.
cunning python
Can FV201 (A45) buffed? Because I see that challenger has 83 of Front Hull Armor and FV201 (A45) has only 76 of Front Hull Armor.
glass relic
It was meant to go hulldowning anyway with that strong turret.
cunning python
Oh.
nova sigil
I rarely see it. Not a super tank tbh
haughty moss
what do you guys think of the T54E1
tulip sail
Its slightly annoying to fight
shy hatch
Gun handling is mediocre to okay, great slopes to bounce, and decent mobility, only HEd from the back, tricky sides
Gun performance, I don't know only problem you would find is facing tier 10 heavies, which some tier 9s do better against like the Leo Proto A
hollow relic
^and the WT AUF.
anyone know why the M48 Patton is so underused? It’s pretty good but you barely see any on the field.
tulip sail
Theres tanks that do its job better like the stb however I've really enjoyed playing my m48 and m60
valid orbit
Out of the tech tree mediums, which line provides the "easier" pathway to grind? Lol
wheat hearth
I've got small question:
Tiger2 or Lowe for 1vs1 tournament ??
calm inlet
Tiger II for sure
its got better armor and mobility, and an decent gun. Lowe has worse armor and mobility but a slightly better gun
zealous anchor
@hollow relic yea its turret isn't that good compared to stb :(
haughty moss
best platoons? tech tree only
frozen moth
Is5 in clan is it for credits or gold? We are only 3% away from it
floral thunder
@frozen moth 1500 gold
frozen moth
@floral thunder thanks
hollow relic
So I have the TIGER P, and I can't decide. VK.72.01 K, JAGDPANTHER E100, or the MAUS.
Which one is better, So far I only have 2 Tier X's, The Grille and the IS-7. So I'm farely new to this game.
green moth
getting ferd from tiger p is a scam
green moth
its 150k from Tiger (P), and 77.5k from JPanther
hollow relic
Tbh, I don't feel like grinding all the way from the beggining.
So I'd take the Tiger(p)...So it is between the VK and the Maus.
green moth
the top gun for ferd is also one second slower than JP II's
wild spire
JAGDPANTHER E100
@hollow relic
hollow relic
lol
tiny plume
ok
rancid mauve
How do you get the the M60??
gentle wasp
given away to random people before, and then sold in crates or for $100 @rancid mauve
rancid mauve
@gentle wasp how is it just given away?? According to what Meadsy said in his recent video, that some people were just given it randomly for some unknown reason..🤔🤔
gentle wasp
@rancid mauve yea it was. people still don't know why they got it but others didn't, etc
rancid mauve
Interesting... is it even a good tank? I’ve never played it and rarely see it so I don’t even know how it performs 😂
gentle wasp
its an alternative patton. m60 has better gun but loses a bit of turret armor. it's not OP, just the concept of it being given away angers people when they see it
@rancid mauve
rancid mauve
Ahh okay, good to know. But yeah I bet it angers people. It’s a tier 10 tank for Christ’s sake!
gentle wasp
yea exactly it was some kind of "reward tank" for an unknown purpose. really weird, but now that they sell it at insane prices...
broken turtle
should i do facehug with kv-1s?
gentle wasp
no
broken turtle
can it block higher tier too?
gentle wasp
no vs t7 its a pretty easy pen
broken turtle
does tiger 1 op? with top modules it can pen pretty well and pretty good speed for ht,
gentle wasp
i wouldnt say OP but its a really good tank
broken turtle
noob-friendly too?
gentle wasp
top tier yes
broken turtle
i see it's so easy that noob can get to tiger 2 just about 30 games
gentle wasp
30 would be really quick but yea Tiger 1 is an enjoyable grind
broken turtle
i decided to get the tiger 2 through the panther, worth it?
gentle wasp
probably better if you play tiger 1, but if you like the panther than yea go ahead
broken turtle
i don't know if i like the panther, how about the 30.02 ?
gentle wasp
nah its a garbage tank dont bother
unless you are just looking to pad masteries but for a grind it is awful
broken turtle
i think the leopard 1 also doesn't pit much to my playstyle cuz it's not well-armored
gentle wasp
no you have to play smart and not get hit lol.
broken turtle
i play pretty much heavy tanks so im not good at driving and avoid hit
gentle wasp
ah got it lol yea dont want to try leo then
broken turtle
i suck at t20 cuz that
gentle wasp
thats not a good tank either so not ur fault
broken turtle
just want some pattons but that tank is painful to play
gentle wasp
yea me too but i got stalled by the pershing yuck
lyric oriole
Leopard 1 has potential but it's halted by too many drawbacks, the camo value needs to be higher, if it had that it would be a good stealth tank
gentle wasp
yea kinda sucks that it is a med because it loses that camo advantage that it needs
lyric oriole
Also as for the Patton's just don't get them. They are beyond struggling, STB-1 does everything better than Patton right now unfortunately.
lyric oriole
The tier 6-8 are actually not bad. They aren't strong necessarily but they have pretty nice stats. The tier 9 is a rough stock grind though but is better than M46 Patton when maxed
broken turtle
hmm....
lyric oriole
I would take STA-1 over a decent number of tier 8 meds anytime
gentle wasp
the 7 is really fun. i wish i had the patton just for the camos, i know it kinda sucks
lyric oriole
Chi-Ri is actually in a rough place after the varying heavy buffs to tier 7
gentle wasp
ah well i played it before that. enjoyed it when i grinded it but sold it right away
lyric oriole
It used to be really fun, 2 seconds to dump 480 and 8 seconds reload
It's really upsetting that I don't get to keep the whole camo during a battle 😂
gentle wasp
ahaaa yea
gentle wasp
?
trail rampart
Just asking is it really good to use the Kv-1s as a sniper? Cause i just snipe liek 4 tanks
solid gate
WG please buff the Tankenstein... Slow as ****
lyric oriole
Never use KV-1s as a sniper
kind bluff
Bad accuracy, you can’t snipe 4 tanks every game well
trail rampart
Also is it also good on HE? I only use ap cause that tank burnt tons of credits
lyric oriole
HE is a shell that should only be used on lightly armored tanks.
kind bluff
1s should have good He pen for big gun. Bring a few
trail rampart
Is it just me or kv-1s will literally ammo racked the german lights?
kind bluff
Big gun = big module damage = easier chance for ammo rack crit
trail rampart
Thx for the tips gtg play now
broken parcel
Wait the STA Rin legit has an anime girl on it?!?
tulip edge
In garage yes
broken parcel
oh jeez god no jeez
kind bluff
Time to grind the Japanese med line now
lucid forge
sheridan's bottom plate if anyone wonders
hollow herald
Guys does anyone knows if the Badger will be sold in store again ? I’m looking forward to buy it
lucid forge
yes it will
solid gate
FV217 is a nice tank but because it is slow you have to have a good team and good positioning. If one or both of those don’t occur you are screwed.
lucid forge
it has almost impenetrable front lol even sheridan cant pen it except bottom plate i guess
solid gate
Indeed
trail rampart
Really appreciated u guys tips but uhm ah still sniping the hell out the enemy team with my derp gun
tulip sail
@rancid mauve I got mine for 8$ in the premium tank crates
Wow didn't realize I was that late for that conversation discord didn't want to load
rancid mauve
@tulip sail haha thanks for the reply brotha! 8$ is a bargain!!
tulip sail
Yeah normally I dont want t10 premis bc I dont care for the tier much however I liked the m60 and I really cant complain for 8$
gaunt birch
I get more credits then my XP@-@
tulip sail
That's normal
gaunt birch
I really want the other amx
tulip sail
Will it be your first t6?
gaunt birch
I want the amx 12 t
tulip sail
Ye but will the amx 12 t be your first tier 6 tank
tulip sail
Then you definitely want to take your time otherwise it wont be a fun time
Tier rushing is one of the worst things you can do in this game
gaunt birch
I’m trying to save up for amx 12 t and how much credits does it cost?
tulip sail
Click on upgrades then click on the amx 12 t then itll tell you in the corner
tulip sail
Yeah that's about right
gaunt birch
green moth
@gaunt birch if you think the 12 t is expensive, wait until you see tiers VII - X
X is around 7 mil
green moth
Those aren't credits
gaunt birch
I know that lol I wanna know if you could afford em
green moth
Hold on a sec
green moth
I think i can
gaunt birch
@-@ bru I cant even afford it since I’m starter a little
green moth
Don't worry these aren't even for sale for the time being
gaunt birch
They used to be for sale
green moth
At one point or another
gaunt birch
Is there any codes for pc or mobile since my dads has a 5 year old pc
green moth
Mobile there is no codes
gaunt birch
Is there any supporter codes like youtubers for mobile
green moth
there's one or two for PC - one of which is: tankshot Dont remember what it does tho
gaunt birch
The other is I forgot pogetto something
solid gate
Progetto 46 is a nice tank though fake.
Does anybody know whats the best tier IV tank?
Not sure about the 65.
Is it matilda or is it the a-20
@solid gate Tech tree or collector?
green moth
Remember how OP the A-20 was back in the day?
solid gate
I don’t think A-20 is that great anymore. Without the autocannon it’s just a faster A-32.
green moth
And the two BTs - then they put the speed cap lower
solid gate
Which BTs?
green moth
BT-2 & 7
solid gate
Ah. BT-SV is a funny looking thing btw.
green moth
You know what sucks? I missed out on the bt art. I was taking a break from WoT B at the time
solid gate
Eh. I think BT-7 Artillery is overrated.
green moth
Im so mad at myself for it. But, it is a really cool tank.
solid gate
I prefer the look of the regular BT-7 if I’m honest. Though neither would be close to the best visually appealing tanks for me.
green moth
With added grab iron thing on turret now
solid gate
As for favorites they aren’t even in the game. They are these 2: (My top 2 favorite tanks)
green moth
I've never seen those
solid gate
OF 40 Mk 1 and Jaguar MBTs.
green moth
ok
deep kayak
How many crates did everyone have to open to get the SU-130pm?
solid gate
25 if you don’t get it dropped in any of them.
deep kayak
I got it in my second crate
solid gate
Progetto 65 is fake @solid gate
I figured that but am not sure about how good it is I mean.
Should have been more specific on which thing I meant.
quick ore
When will S. Conqueror be available?
tiny plume
no idea
low elk
Super Conq is not planned to be released anytime soon
gaunt birch
BRU I was in a match and I tried shooting the tank I shot the amour but it didn’t even hit and 2nd one I tried took 120 damage but not damage must be a glitch or a hacker
solid gate
What would you like for them to add to tech tree after British lights?
low elk
Swed heavies
gaunt birch
None of the tanks amour was red it didn’t even hit
solid gate
I gave them a proposal for that that was different than WoT PCs setup. Why? Because proposing they add the PC line ends with backlash about the Emil III.
low elk
Swed heavies are getting added to blitz from a really old source
no idea if they changed their mind
solid gate
Oddly on Wikipedia (not the best site for research but it’s okish to get names to search for) the Strv K (which in an MBT I think) is lumped in with the Kranvagn/Emil project.
My proposal used Strv K and Strv A in it. Emil 1951 was the only Emil I proposed and it was tier 10. Now Wargaming using this old source may have a different deal. Still better idea than making people mad over an AMX 50B with strong turret.
low elk
STRV K is in supertesting on PC
solid gate
Ignore the bit about the Strv 2000 project. That is likely not to happen. Not even in my game idea because it’s armor is probably some kind of composite or something like that.
Eh, I don’t care. I proposed this months ago.
Well I have other proposals. I have Swedish medium line and light like too. Swiss could be added too with a medium line and a heavy line. The Swiss heavy line is mostly variants of the Panzer 74 (VZF (or something like that) 69) as heavies.
lucid forge
can't wg just add a whole line from tier 1 to 10? Why are they doing only 6 tiers up...? This is so disappointing
solid gate
@lucid forge Or 7 and up for the Japanese TDs.
lucid forge
yeah..
low elk
noone plays low tiers and WG has no incentive to add new lowertiers
solid gate
Though there are Japanese TDs that’d fit tiers lower than 7.
lucid forge
i do and i like to have low tiers in garage, collector tanks now
solid gate
I’ll play lower tiers if bored of higher tiers and the stupidity up there. It’s harder to carry idiots at the higher tiers.
lucid forge
true, too many noobs rn in game
lucid forge
what are those?
solid gate
My proposals I made to Wargaming for Pan-Euro lines months ago.
ember arrow
what equipment to put on p44 pantera?
solid gate
But now I’m building my own lines for my own idea. Those will go in as well as tanks not in those that Wargaming hasn’t used (yet).
@ember arrow for Vitality I’d use the Improved Assembly.
ember arrow
ok, thanks.
yeah, pantera seems to have no armour to begin with so the enhanced armour might not even help avoid the HEs
solid gate
Yeah. I doubt armor buff one will do much for the armor which seems bad anyway. Better to have more HP which can help you survive one more shot in some cases. Depends on RNG though.
What’s it’s dispersion factor?
ember arrow
.353... nvm is .336 when full crw
solid gate
Hmmm. Not bad. Still you can use your own judgment on the V-Stab or Refined Gun.
ember arrow
hmm.... I think ill use the v-stab since I'm mostly going to be flanking ( as a med should) at somewhat close distances
solid gate
Sounds good. I use V-Stab on all tanks though maybe I should use Refined Gun on at least some of the heavies. Like the Russian ones for example.
ember arrow
yeah, would make sense
solid gate
Sooo its matilda then? (yes tis a very very VERY late reply)
Also I figured out something Wargaming could have done if they weren’t so gung ho about having a line of turreted TDs for America. The T30 could have been tier 10 heavy with T34 being tier 9 and T29 tier 8 then T29 Concept as tier 7.
@solid gate Matilda is great against tier IVs but watch yourself when you face tier Vs.
ember arrow
yeah, matilda cant pen most tier 5s... atleast it has problems doing so
solid gate
Which one would be the best IV against both IV and V then?
gaunt birch
It’s been like more days it’s still been like thisss
gaunt birch
The claim day is not going down or anything
solid gate
@gaunt birch You have to upgrade them through stages in the event.
tulip sail
Pz.kfw b2 740 (f) is probably the best heavy
solid gate
Actually I like B1 better but that’s just preference.
tulip sail
The b2 never fights t5 so it doesn't have to worry
solid gate
However, B2 doesn’t face tier Vs so.......
ember arrow
that reminds me, I was fighting a leo in a b1, thing couldn't pen me.... sad
solid gate
Stupid timer! Grrrr! I needed to beat M4 to the punch. Also that’s because Little Leo was nerfed hard.
gaunt birch
The vault claim thingy has been sitting there like that for days it’s 22d and 17 hours left but it’s been more days and it’s not going down must be a glitch
ember arrow
yeah I know, it has to flank even tier 4s now
tulip sail
I'm an m4 you cant beat me to the punch
solid gate
Oh and if 13 90 needs buffing then why not buff it’s 75mm variant as well? That thing isn’t very good either.
Ha! I’m a StuG Maus. I can just sit on you.
tulip sail
@gaunt birch you have to unlock level 11 to get the up grade and finish before you can collect it
ember arrow
13 75 is actually ok
tulip sail
Your litterly paper it doesnt matter
solid gate
Well 13 75 just has no gun depression or elevation. 6 degrees both ways sucks.
tulip sail
Besides I float
ember arrow
i guess, you can only really use it well on certain maps..
solid gate
Whatever M4. You know what I meant by “beat to the punch.” Curse the timer to the ground.
tulip sail
You can use it well it just takes a lot more skill. that was the joke
ember arrow
*laughs in ratte
solid gate
Well 13 75 is meh at best. Not a fun tank to play.
tulip sail
I enjoyed it granted I wasnt that good in it
solid gate
By the way wasn’t 13 57 buffed?
ember arrow
yes
solid gate
Well I played 13 75 and that lack of gun elevation is my only gripe. Is it fun to play? No. Challenging? Yes. Best tank? Not by a long shot.
What was the buff on 13 57 though?
tulip sail
It a pretty good spotter and flanker you just shouldn't worry about dealing dmg
ember arrow
*proceeds to yolo
solid gate
Well I cannot remember how good or bad I did with 75. 90 I haven’t gotten to yet. 57 I haven’t played much. Need to give it another go. Now what was the buff on 57 again?
ember arrow
VII
AMX 13 57
Dispersion on hull traverse was decreased.
Dispersion after firing was decreased for the 57 mm L/100 gun.averse was decreased.
Dispersion after firing was decreased for the 57 mm L/100 gun.
not really a significant buff
solid gate
I see. Well a buff is still a buff even if it doesn’t seem to make a huge difference.
tranquil maple
im just gonna leave this tank at the corner of my garage . the worst tier8 i have ever played in 5 years of my experience
cinder hatch
agreed :/
tardy granite
When are we gonna get the St. Gloriana Churchill tank?
I want to buy it!!
solid gate
St Gloriana Churchill?
@tranquil maple If you don’t like the Prototype then definitely don’t play the turretless T28.
tulip sail
Gup churchill @solid gate
solid gate
@tulip sail Oh. If you say so. Wasn’t sure if he mean GuP or something else.
Also here’s some game tanks I’d use:
tardy granite
@solid gate me?
solid gate
@tardy granite Yes, you.
solid gate
Looks like a Churchill Mk III.
tardy granite
@solid gate Not the Gup
solid gate
@tardy granite I didn’t say it was GuP but M4 Obsessed did.
tardy granite
yes but you said you didn't know what I was talking about I was clarifying
tulip sail
I looked it up st Gloriana and it's a gup house
tardy granite
yes
solid gate
The only GuP one they shouldn’t add is the M3 Lee one. Pink is an ugly color to put on a tank. Well the what I think is the main character one is pink. There seems to be another GuP M3 without the pink (except the pink bunny on it).
tulip sail
We dont need another m3 lee it's already too strong
solid gate
Haha. Very funny M4.
tulip sail
Which is really something coming from me
If you dont believe me ask spart it's a really good seal clubbing tank
solid gate
I don’t think the Lee is strong. It’s a medium that’s tall and acts more more like a TD in that is has a gun arch and all that.
tulip sail
You can literally make yourself unhittable
solid gate
Club the seal clubber I say by driving an even better deal clubbing tank.
tulip sail
Just drive up to a rock and boom you've hidden your entire tank and can freely do damage
solid gate
Eh. I don’t have fond memories of the Lee. M4 is far better.
tulip sail
Well no duh it's a t5
solid gate
And has a useable turret and I’d argue better gun.
tulip sail
And arguably the best t5 med (definitely best looking) well yeah the m4 has a 76mm gun ofc its better
tardy granite
@tulip sail yes the lee is weard but why not the British
solid gate
Yeah. Lee is just ridiculous looking. What were our people thinking back then?
tulip sail
They were thinking we need a 75mm gun yesterday and they needed the 37mm for at
tardy granite
technology mate
solid gate
The M3 Grant @tardy granite?
tardy granite
@solid gate yes sorry im very tired
solid gate
I see. Also I wonder what tanks look even more ridiculous than the M3 Lee.
tulip sail
The m3a1 It's a cast m3 lee
solid gate
Hehe. I mean from any country.
tardy granite
wood burning tanks
solid gate
Now what purpose would you have for a wood burning tank?
tulip sail
Wood was easier to get than gas use it for training
tardy granite
when your country is out of fuel (germany)
solid gate
Oh, right.
tulip sail
Those were designed way before that was a major issue
solid gate
Hmmmm. Well what’s the most visually ugly tank you can think of?
tulip sail
95% of the German next gen/super heavies
solid gate
Honestly the black and white pictures of the American Hen (AGF 150 ton) tank look stupid as heck.
tardy granite
its better at that then fighting
solid gate
They basically had 2 parts like a semi truck inspired it and the turret sat on the front of the rear half.
tulip sail
It was ok for what it was intended for
tardy granite
it had a 7-10 man crew lost of machine guns
@tulip sail its a tractor to fight off the Japanese for taking new Zealand
solid gate
Bob Semple would be more along the lines of an IFV if such class existed by then.
tulip sail
Yes that's crew they stay there they dont leave I'd argue later T-34-85s were more close to apcs
solid gate
Just call it an AFV. The most broad term as far as I know for vehicles with armor that fight.
tardy granite
@tulip sail i just found this https://youtu.be/w8hRRCFdnnk
tulip sail
Exactly all it had to do was fight people who dont have at capacity and have no armour themselves and if an amphibious tank was spotted they would leave it to the at positions
The reason I bring up the T-34-85 was because it had grab handles for infantryman to ride on it until they got into a battle then they hop off before fighting
solid gate
What is this abomination:
tardy granite
well troops sat on tanks before that it just helped out
Are any of you from the western us?
solid gate
Central US
tulip sail
Btw I dont actually think the T-34-85 is an apc but it's closer than the semple
tardy granite
Have you herd of this?
tulip sail
Yes
solid gate
That was an armored bulldozer that some guy made and went on a rampage with.
tardy granite
yep
solid gate
Because he got pissed off at some city officials.
tardy granite
about a concert factory
solid gate
And the TV-8:
tulip sail
That were entirely pulling a fast one on him when he snapped
solid gate
There have been a few times people did crazy crap like that. Like the truck driver who armored his truck and after the police finally stopped him he killed himself. Also an Ex-Soldier stole a tank once and went on a rampage with it.
tardy granite
didn't that happen in China a few weeks ago
solid gate
Anyway don’t know if this is real or not but the gun or whatever it is looks stupid as heck:
tulip sail
Not sure but I think we should probably switch back to vehicles in game or to be added
It's not a gun it's a jet for mine clearing iirc@solid gate
tardy granite
thats for fire fighting correct ?
solid gate
@tulip sail Yeah I fixed that to a degree. Adding “or whatever it is.” Still looks dumb.
tulip sail
Oh definitely
deep kayak
@solid gate I cannot fully remember that tank’s purpose but that is a jet engine in place of the gun.
solid gate
Panzer 74 stuff:
tulip sail
I still think they need to rework attachments make them cheaper and ad more stuff to the additions
solid gate
Yeah. Attachments are way too expensive for something that’s just a visual thing. It doesn’t give you an advantage or anything so it shouldn’t be that expensive.
tulip sail
Exactly plus most are pretty lame
solid gate
Indeed
tulip sail
And I'm still a proponent for my attachment idea
solid gate
I’d love to have more and/or better camos too.
The common camos aren’t bad per se but they aren’t great either. I feel more historical ones are needed.
tulip sail
Hey look we actually agree on something about the game
solid gate
Yeah. We can agree on some things but also disagree on other things.
tulip sail
Yeah
tulip sail
I'd like a bit more worn
solid gate
Somebody came up with these somewhere:
tulip sail
There cooler than most of the in game
solid gate
Yeah. I like the arctic white camouflage one best again. Though the summer style ones aren’t bad. For desert though I’d have to go with like this Pz III one:
Just a basic desert color. Nothing too fancy.
pine saffron
tulip sail
@solid gate I've always liked the DAK colours
tulip sail
@solid gate dessert Afrika Korps
solid gate
Ah. Well those are cool. So is the color of the M1 Abrams. Nothing fancy there just basic desert sand like color.
tulip sail
Not always they as with all german vehicles there were different variations
solid gate
American Cold War camos:
@tulip sail Well the main one I know of is cool I mean then. Gah.
tulip sail
The others are pretty nice aswell
solid gate
Ah
tulip sail
Of course it it's much more varied than even this
solid gate
For the American summer ones I like the Tropical one best. Also the Norwegian winter camo looks cool.
tulip sail
The Pacific campaign really did allow a lot more interesting camo
solid gate
Oh? Find any images of those old ones?
tulip sail
I'll pm you so I'm not spamming
solid gate
Alright
glass otter
if im being honest legendary camos should have a special perk or something
hard nexus
p2w intensifies
ember arrow
no, not really.... its enough of a perk to flex on em f2p suckers
solid gate
Very nice. All players with my team had one kill. It,s not often I think xD
solid gate
@solid gate #screenshots
@solid gate I think that,s legall. But thanks for Your attention.
stop pinging thx
solid gate
Really? I wrote You once your nick. Ahh, ok. Think what You want. Bye.
kindred wren
You pinged him too?...
glass otter
big brain
solid gate
He needed feel important. I know this. Good night all. °^°
zealous anchor
What is amx 50 120 pike nose for
tulip sail
Same reason for any tank to have one
It's to increase the armour on 2 plains instead of just 1
haughty moss
Anyone think that the T54E1 should get HE shells. With APCR and AP only, you suffer against other lights and meds in the tier which can just rush and kill you.
calm inlet
ive never seen a single person say “T54E1 shouldn’t have HE shells”
makes zero sense why it doesn’t
on the plus side, it removes the temptation to load HE, splash your shots, and lose DPM
low elk
HE is good as finishers when you just cant pen
calm inlet
but obviously, not having the option means you can’t use it when you need it
haughty moss
Exactly, especially against tier 10 heavies, the tanks is useless, HE allow kill shots.
calm inlet
honestly tho, 105mm HE shells probably will do less than 50 damage or maybe even none on a Tier 10 heavy if shot at the front
think of shooting HE in a Batchat at an IS-4 or something
lyric oriole
You would be suprised how Effective firing HE underneath a tank is for 105mm guns
The splash averages close to 100-120 damage depending on the vehicle
zealous anchor
Wait t54e1 doesn't have HE?
cobalt junco
can't think of a tank that pisses people off more than t92
i did not shoot missiles but i did he his rear
tulip sail
Lol I love salty people
solid gate
Question, what tank is this?
wise moth
RU-251
solid gate
Thanks
hollow notch
@cobalt junco sheridan. It's like a t92, but more broken
cobalt junco
I thought t92 was better tier for tier
T92 is like half the size of the sheridan and can get bs bounces
tidal atlas
I don’t see a lot of AGTM users just HE and APCR users because half of the T92 and Sheridan Drivers are nubs
cobalt junco
I am still learning how to use missiles but if you can, use he and apcr because more dpm.
You haven't played ratings though because atgms are spammed constantly there
These tanks are really well balanced already, you can remove the missiles and up the dpm a bit and they'll be fine
glass relic
Because ratings are mostly filled with people that's care about their HPs in their Sherry, so they can change the course of battle in mid games and late games cause of the HP trade
cobalt junco
But I like them broken :) relieves years of pent up frustration over 183
glass relic
I rarely used missiles and the gun arc and apcr velocity is just already amazing and satisfying
rancid mauve
What’s up with the odd-numbered Hit Points on almost all of the tanks? The KV-2 has 953 HP or something like that. It’s like there’s a rounding issue or something🤷🏻♂️
glass relic
That person probably running the HP equipment thing
hard nexus
they broke the hitpoints when they buffed tier 10ht hitpoints
mint quarry
holA
rancid mauve
Another example... Grille has 1,802 HP... how do you get 2 HP??? Makes no sense
wise moth
@rancid mauve @rancid mauve That's because it has 1700 HP base, but with the 6% HP equipment buff, it goes to 1802. WG used to round it, but they don't anymore
hollow relic
Can someone tell me why tf the STB costs so much Experience
hollow notch
Just think, the grille was buffed.
hollow relic
The Grille got buffed? I’m about to get the grille lol.
hollow notch
Ya, 2 hp
hollow relic
Wait, So I got the IS 7 and now I’m almost finished with the Grille line, What tank should I go for next?
rancid mauve
Ohhhh yeah that’s right I’m running it with the HP equipment.. @wise moth
hollow notch
E100, the whole line is good
hollow relic
Okay, What about the Maus Line or the STB?
wise moth
@hollow relic Mausssss
Maaaauuuuusssss
rancid mauve
I just got the Maus and have no idea what I’m doing ... I did quite well in Mauschen but Maus is making me lose my mind...
hollow notch
I hate the mauschen, but love the maus
solid gate
Any one with a guide for a t57 heavy????? Cuz i am at t49 and not sure to continue
hollow relic
I love the IS7 but I hate the AMX 12 t,
solid gate
I have k91 and i like it very much
hollow relic
The T57 is one of the worst heavies in the game tbh... No Armour and has a bad gun
solid gate
Wowowwo its gun is no where bad
hollow relic
It can’t get hits off of high Armour tanks like the IS 7 IS 4 Maus Etc
wise moth
@rancid mauve The previous tanks don't really teach you this, but you need to angle your turret. This is the ideal angling for a Maus
solid gate
It can’t get hits off of high Armour tanks like the IS 7 IS 4 Maus Etc
@hollow relic i dont agree
258 pen is enough
hollow relic
@solid gate You need Russian tanks meh friend. IS 7 or IS 4. Both are broken ash,
wise moth
T57 is pretty nice honestly
solid gate
I play german super heavies and chinese heaviums
wise moth
Not as good as it used to be after the heavy HP buffs, but it's still nice. The gun is excellent
hollow relic
Is the STB worth the grind? Cuz I see it needs like 400k XP jus for it
solid gate
Ye its decent
wise moth
STB is arguably one of the best meds rn
solid gate
But annoying line to grind
hollow relic
It IS the best, But 400k XP is wayyy too much.
rancid mauve
Love the T57. Highly recommend it!!
@wise moth thanks for the pic! The hull isn’t the issue as that bottom plate goes red pretty quick (plus those dang tracks haha) but the turret is still an issue but the flat, slope slides makes it easier to judge on the angles 👌🏻
wise moth
@hollow relic T-22: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@rancid mauve The key is to realize that the sides of the turret are actually way stronger than you think. Don't be afraid to overangle the turret
hollow relic
Oh yeah the T22 Medium. I don’t find it that difficult to deal with tbh. Its plate at the bottom you can keep on hitting
Honostly I feel like grinding for the Maus or the VK 72.01 K.
hollow notch
The trick with the maus is to make the armor look weak enough to keep them from HE spamming you.
wise moth
Shorter tanks that have to shoot up at the turret side will have huge issues trying to pen the turret side. This is a 30b with standard ammo for instance. The turret side is basically flat on, and it's still red (vs. standard ammo) @rancid mauve
solid gate
Then again 30B has trash pen for a medium @wise moth
hollow relic
@wise moth What about the VK 72.01 K?
hollow notch
@hollow relic no
solid gate
Pa> Honostly I feel like grinding for the Maus or the VK 72.01 K.
@hollow relic vk 72.01 k is underrated but still i believe it can knock down any e100 ezily
hollow relic
No one uses that tank anymore tbh 😭😭. I remember playing as a IS 7, I hated the VK because of its gun and frontal Armour.
wise moth
@hollow relic Honestly, there's not much point in playing a VK72 when you can play a Maus. Maus has way more HP, more DPM, and way more armor
solid gate
I have e100 its decent. People will say its cheeks are weak bruh
Ur cheeks appears to be squashy but for real u will block dmg with slightly changing the turrets direction
hollow relic
I really hate the 72.01 K line though. The Tier 7 and 8 do like 200 damage per shot. It’s so annoying and it’s so bad.
wise moth
E-100 is all about the HP and gun. 640 alpha with good enough DPM (more than an IS-4 at least), and tons of HP. The turret is a problem, but they're probably not going to pen every shot on it, and all you have to do is trade shot for shot
solid gate
Tiger P is 1 of the best....... While vk is armor and armor and hp and armor plus gun
hollow relic
Fr though I’d take a VK 72.01 Over a E 100 any day. They both have a good gun but the frontal Armour of the VK is sooo good.
wise moth
@hollow relic Wut are you on bruh
solid gate
240 frontal like wtf
hollow relic
Im high on crack cocaine.
wise moth
E-100 > VK 72. More HP, way better DPM, and most importantly, you don't have a horrific rear mounted turret setup
solid gate
Best armor after vk 90.01p lol and a battle from a distance vk win ezily and a 1v1 battle vk win ezily also
Its armor is unpredictable and rear turret feel too good for me
wise moth
VK-72 armor is terribad. Huge side weakspots, cheek weakspots, and the lower plate is also huge. And rear mounted turret makes using that armor profile super inefficient
solid gate
@wise moth if people tend to over angle a 160 sides its not the tanks fault lol
hollow relic
I can’t hit the Lower plate with the IS 7, it’s impossible. Believe me I’ve tried. It has like a line infront of the tank that u need to nail so u can do damage
rancid mauve
@wise moth good to know that I have so wiggle room with the angles.. I just had a match where I front line, surrounded by Progetto, Standard and a couple others and still won the game with 800 HP. So I guess baby steps! 76% crew still as well.
solid gate
Vk is Supreme
wise moth
@solid gate This is the problem (and that's standard ammo too)
solid gate
Bruh most shots will bounce of the turret with a well player
Standing like a statue will end with the destruction of any tank
wise moth
@rancid mauve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWg5FaRDiuA
I hate to plug here, but I did stream some Maus gameplay a couple days ago. There's timestamps in the description of 2 games with nearly 7k damage (and one was a 7 kill too)
@solid gate Any decent enemy player, or even just one with functioning eyeballs that can see the hitskin will just aim at the cheeks and butter you
solid gate
@wise moth i told u before that the cheeks appears to be squashy but for on board game they are not
wise moth
VK-72 armor is only good when facehugging IS tanks, and that's it
solid gate
U can watch the comparisons done
You do know this man has been in professional tournaments right
wise moth
There's a reason why Maus is a current staple of comp, and no one has ever run a VK 72 in serious competitive play
solid gate
@wise moth this dont mean that the tank is bad if he dont like it
wise moth
VK 72 armor is just completely useless against gold
solid gate
@wise moth and also for sure maus armor is better
@wise moth use enchanted armor and the gold will cry
wise moth
You can't angle a VK 72, which is just a huge problem for the tank, and you can't sidescrape either
wise moth
@solid gate As long as this weakspot exists, you can't angle a VK-72, enhanced armor or not
solid gate
The enhanced* armor doesnt increase actual thickness it increases effective thickness
Ik but these weak spots will ezily bait. Shots lol
wise moth
They do bait people to shoot at them, but they're going to hit, and pen, so it doesn't matter
rancid mauve
@wise moth thanks for the message! I’ll give it a look!👌🏻
solid gate
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DGXjMyapO_Nk&ved=2ahUKEwik8te1tqHpAhUJuRoKHVzkAe4Qo7QBMAd6BAgJEAE&usg=AOvVaw1slxY_fCCSzejyAROPPL3E not sure if th correct video but still will work
wise moth
Also, beyond the fact that the armor profile is incredibly inconvenient to use, having the lowest DPM at tier 10 by far is also a huge issue
Honestly, there's just no reason to ever play a VK 72 when the Maus can tank hits better, AND deal damage better
wise moth
Alpha is well and good, but increased HP pools lessens the impact of alpha
solid gate
E100 is a joke for a vk and the hp difference is 150 but u got armor instead
wise moth
E-100 can be angled, and VK can't
glass relic
The odds off winning are mostly relied on how you conserves your HP trade cause of the Buffs imo
solid gate
Sure vk can be angled but slightly not as people use it
wise moth
You can sidescrape in an E-100, and you can angle the E-100 turret to troll shots. You can't do that in a VK
solid gate
@wise moth u do have the vk k i think???
glass relic
You'll mostly get punished when angling VK anyway
wise moth
Of course I do. I have every tech tree tank in the game except Ho Ri. And VK is terrible
solid gate
Ur on eu server?
wise moth
NA
solid gate
VK is only good at pushing and facehugging as hard as possible
I dont have an na account
wise moth
VK72 is literally only good for facehugging IS tanks. That's the only time when its armor profile isn't terrible