vehicles-discussion

[jolly crag]

Like the colt revovler

[exotic dune]

WG should add a wheeled tanks line lein in WoT React with a👍 if you agree

[visual jolt]

@exotic dune they are currently breaking WoT. We already have 1 game breaking mechanic, the last thing we need is another

[exotic dune]

That is kind of true

atgm's need to be removed

[crystal hare]

Tracks or gun next on ARL 44

[visual jolt]

@crystal hare gun

It has an amazing gun

But don’t get the 100mm one, the other one

[crystal hare]

I have stock gun

[exotic dune]

@visual jolt Is WG removing atgm's soon

[crystal hare]

But should I get tracks for traverse

[visual jolt]

@exotic dune I have no idea

@crystal hare tracks last

[crystal hare]

Ok I’ll save up for gun

[exotic dune]

@visual jolt Do u know when the battle pass will come out

[crystal hare]

@exotic dune he’s not wg

[visual jolt]

@exotic dune I do not

[crystal hare]

@exotic dune Stop pinging him

[visual jolt]

Keep in mind that I don’t work for WG. I’m a normal player like you

[exotic dune]

oops i thought because u were a mod. that u had insider info on the baqttle pass

[narrow rampart]

@solid gate the best sources for info on German prototypes are the Panzer Tracts series by Doyle and Jentz. If tanks are not named in these books, there's 99,99% chance they were never even considered

@exotic dune Battle Pass is to be announced still. It will be available soon so keep an eye out on #game-news and the official Blitz social channels

[lapis glen]

@calm inlet Do you know if those developable tanks are permanently powered

[calm inlet]

?

@lapis glen premium and collector tanks have permanent enrichment and cannot be temporary or permanently enriched further

in terms of credit making

[shell forum]

Can someone enlighten me on what developable tank being talk about here?

[lunar pelican]

@frigid ember when is the T28 finally getting buffed?

[lyric oriole]

The only way to have an enriched Collectors Vehicle was prior to Update 5.5 you would have had to permanently enrich one of the Tech Tree Vehicles that was removed.

[solid gate]

@jolly crag That’s a silly idea. In PC though it’s called the Patriot.

@narrow rampart What about for other nations? Not counting US because I know the Hunnicutt books are best for that.

[narrow rampart]

I'd go search for David Fletcher's work for British tanks. Try Steven Zaloga for Japanese tanks and just all around stuff. Cookie Sewell and Zaloga made some good books for Russian tanks too

[sweet peak]

after researching batchat i must agree with everyone saying that it is powercrept . i like it not gonna lie (played 1 normal game and some ratings also the gravity mode) but it just feels like much worse combination of sheridan and FV4005

[solid gate]

@narrow rampart I wouldn’t recommend fletcher he gets a lot of stuff wrong

[viral lodge]

I mean FV4005 has more trouble using its autoloader than the BC cause of its size.

[sweet peak]

*size

[viral lodge]

lol, spelling error, either way point made.

[vernal pasture]

i play warthunder

[lyric oriole]

I feel bad for you

[vernal pasture]

no its not that bad

[tulip sail]

Wt actually pretty fun unless its low tier France

[vernal pasture]

exepet the tanks

the planes are soo cool

[tulip sail]

I actually prefer the tanks though I'm getting into planes

[shy hatch]

Can somebody push a buff for the Porsche VK 45.02, it's getting a pain to grind with at tier 8 after the last buffs for the rest of the heavies, last cupola armor buff was a joke compared to the OP crap the Tiger II has gained, at least a speed limit break or front armor buff to 150mm maybe.

[lyric oriole]

I'll agree, once tiger 2 got the LFP buff it basically out VK 45.02 A (P) back into a useless state, it needs more DPM to compete IMO because it already has mobility and accuracy

[shy hatch]

Even with the best heavy traverse, the trait is dead with 38 kmh limit, could've been a good ramming machine with more, and gives a better chance to not being clapped by meds

[bold wadi]

any good tier 6 tourney tanks?

[lyric oriole]

Nice auto Moderation

ARL 44, Cromwell B, Fat Max, all solid choices

[shy hatch]

Eh I just tried to learn the best ways to play but with more prems pumping into the game I just gave up on it

[topaz dust]

Is the SU 122 44 good? Or should I save for the T26E3?

[solid gate]

Both are not good for now

[crystal hare]

@solid gate he’s talking about the eagle 7
@topaz dust if u like historical tanks save up for the T26E3 Eagle 7

[solid gate]

@crystal hare I said both

[crystal hare]

Ok

I thought u meant t23e3 bc the eagle 7 is in testing

[shy hatch]

Such low end choices, everyone knows the best choice is the AT 15 A😬

[crystal hare]

I have AT15A and it’s a turretless tier 7 maus

[solid gate]

@crystal hare Not really. The hatches are weak and it’s slower by 5kph on the top speed. Not that Maus reaches it’s top speed often if at all.

laughs in tiger l

definitely a tier 7 maus, definitely

[kind bluff]

Some reason every game I’m playing AT-15 I’m popping off
I expected me to lose my sanity but it actually feels nice and I feel uncomfortable

[tulip sail]

Its actually a decentish td its kinda surprisingly weird

[raven jacinth]

The A 15A is in need of a buff lol, if a literal heavy tank outperforms it in every aspect then it does

[kind bluff]

Bruh AT-15A has more armor than AT-15 u shush

[raven jacinth]

yes and no

[lyric oriole]

But actually yes

[solid gate]

AT 15A has better armor tier for tier but it’s still not THAT great.

[crystal hare]

Yes it was an exaggeration

[lapis glen]

@calm inlet

I don't think you understood me. Look at these two cases, one with 87% more credit ratio and the other 61% more credit ratio (either temporary or permanent). What am I going to do is which tank gives the most percentage with the gold

[hardy crater]

@lapis glen dukooooo

[calm inlet]

@lapis glen which two tanks are those?

wait

[low elk]

one is a tier 8 EU P44 pantera the other an american tier 8 LT T49

[calm inlet]

yeah lol i figured it out

[low elk]

literally the only way to play T49 and not lose massive credits for having fun is to use credit boosters or enrich the tank
pantera already earns good credits at its base so ofc it does not need such high boost

[calm inlet]

@lapis glen the Pantera has a 90% credit coefficient without enrichment. if you enrich it, the new credit coefficient is 145%. The T49 has a normal credit coefficient of 80%, and a 150% credit coefficient when enriched

[low elk]

it makes complete sense

[calm inlet]

however, a T49 generally requires a lot more credits to play because you have to use a lot of HE

with the gold needed to permanently enrich either one, you’re better off buying a Progetto 46 in the Shop

[low elk]

T49 also has absurd repair costs for a tier 8 compared to the credits earned
barely earn any for doing an ace
lost about 50k aceing the tank

[calm inlet]

-51k credits, very easily

[zenith folio]

lol not to bad

[frank hemlock]

What is the best tactic to use with this tank?

[lapis glen]

@low elk I know what tanks they are, I captured them to give an example of what I'm looking for @low elk

Bro do you have the full list

Of all the tanks

[fair vessel]

@frank hemlock the M4A3E8 leads to the M48 Patton, which is supposedly pretty good

The Chaffe leads to the Dreaded Sheridan and it’s ATGM’ness

And the T37 Just leads to the T57 Heavy

I’d go for the M48 line

now if you want a REAL medium tank, go for the German E-50M line

[iron gulch]

if you go down the chaffee line, you'll have lots of fun since the chaffee is good, bulldog is good, t49 is good and ofc the atgms are good

[hollow notch]

You wont find me using my maus to save your Sheridan though. I will happily watch my friendly atgms die.

[kind bluff]

M48 and it’s line are mostly kinda bad atm
Everything but the M46 is mediocre and even that has some glaring problems
Honestly the most noob-friendly line for Americans is actually the Sheridan line, with exception to T49 152mm

[raven jacinth]

what about M60

[tulip sail]

Slightly better than m48

[strange thicket]

@kind bluff you sure the Sheridan line is noob friendly? I find that statement pretty wrong

[kind bluff]

@strange thicket I meant line and module wise - there’s not a necessarily painful grind in any of the tanks that lead up to sheridan
Chaffee good, bulldog takes a bit exp but the speed makes it versatile, T49 is ok, while E1 can still do well stock

Any other line has at least one gigantic choke point in some point of the line, whether it be terrible stock + expensive modules or just straight up boring lines

[strange thicket]

I will agree with that
I had 2 choke points when i was grinding e50m
The vk30.01d although i will give it to you i loved the tank but sfter i got the equipments
And the panther 2 was kinds meh

Still the Sheridan line requires skill to use
You can get away with chaffe but the bulldog requires watching your steps and where you go to not get demolished.
You get the idea for the rest of the line

[elfin edge]

oh my I hate the vk3001d @strange thicket i have good expectations for panther tho

[strange thicket]

@elfin edge panther has killer dpm
And with the recent buff it's got a decent armor
And decent mobility too
I am afraid you will be disappointed wit panther 2 tho hehe

[elfin edge]

yea ok, @strange thicket im really looking forward to panther and p2 cause i have many modueles unlocked from other places, and i want to rid the earth of the scum that is the 01d

[strange thicket]

I could tolerate vk30.01d only when i got full equipments

[elfin edge]

no thank youuu im not wasting money on a garbo t6 😂

im so sad i have no credits: i have 3 mil credits rn but i want to buy a t54 and at the same time a panther

[solid gate]

Panther 2 is pretty trash so just a heads up the E50 will also be a extremely painful grind

[elfin edge]

@solid gate i know e50 is painful, but how painful? more then leopard pta painful?

[solid gate]

E50 atleast has a plate that can bounce so atleast a bit less painful fully upgraded however I’m certain it’s mobility is really bad stock

[elfin edge]

ok fair enough, i could not grind the pta for the love of god it was so painful i sold it.

[hollow notch]

I was grinding a reroll in gravity, and went through the t44 stock

Going through lines again makes me very happy I now have access to tons of frex on my main

[strange thicket]

I am planning to get the pta only when there is another mode i already unlocked it 😂

[solid gate]

How is the Pz. S35 on sale rn? Is it worth it?

[obsidian glade]

The rhm grind wasn’t bad but the WT makes me want to die

I bought the Pz haven’t tried it yet

[solid gate]

Nah, WT is more fun IMO. But sometimes I just need a break from it and play Blitz instead.

Oh, you mean WT on pz iv, not war thunder, right? Oops

[neat edge]

E100 need turret buff. Change turret design

[gilded vector]

I think incredibly rare tanks, bought purely for the purpose of collecting, should become collectors tanks. The Fury or Loza’s Sherman, for example should become collectors tanks. The purpose for buying these tanks is because they are rare, more so than the weight of buying them to play. The reason this doesn’t apply to other tanks, like the smasher, is because it is sold and bought to be played, not purely collect for its rarity and looks.

@stone hill

[gilded vector]

It’s alright. A bit lacking in middle and lower hull armor

[broken turtle]

well, soon vk 36.01 h and t1 heavy should be nerf after or in 6.10. Upcoming hp buff for heavies will make them more broken

[narrow rampart]

I think you mean the VK 36.01 H? Because the D is that tier VI medium tank and that really needs some tlc

[broken turtle]

oh ye the h sorry. That's hard to remember those names

[narrow rampart]

True. Because they have the VK 30.01 P as well 😉 ... and at tier VII you get the VK 30.02 D to make matter even more confusing

[broken turtle]

OH

[zenith folio]

then there is the pnther version of the vk30.02 and not just the t34 one

[proud atlas]

Can we recovery a premium tank more than 1 Time?

I mean the same premium tank

[flint eagle]

What tier X tank is best out of these 8:
Meds- patton, wz121, leo
Td- e3,e4, jg, ho
Heavy- maus
Gut says leo might have the highest ceiling but e4 or jg might be easier

[hollow notch]

Maus

[solid gate]

I remember martindogger said 'I absolutely love this tank' in his vid about the vk30.01d. For tier 10, i'd say e100 just for the lols.

[hexed geyser]

I have the 121 , its op

[flint eagle]

Just got a buff right?

[hollow notch]

The gun on the 121 is amazing, but the pen is lacking.

[hexed geyser]

Leo is very good but a paper tank

[flint eagle]

More fun that way. Thanks!

[hexed geyser]

Np

[strange thicket]

@flint eagle there isn't really a best tank out of those as their playstyle is totally different from eachother
would go for 121 over patton tho
there is no comparison between the 4tds
and leo is just a whole another thing

[solid gate]

Wargaming I'm waiting for the t 90 Abram etc.

[arctic relic]

Since ATGMs are added, why don't they give Kpz ATGM

[halcyon hound]

The is 4 is a big shit

[shy hatch]

Haha what a funny price wg

I bet whoever entered that headbutted it

[rotund palm]

Is FV215B 183 good enough to ammo rack an IS 7?

[tulip sail]

It's not if its good enough all you need is to pen and yo have rng on your side and to hit the ammo rack

[rotund palm]

So Jg Pz E100 Is good for ammoracking an IS 7 too?

[tulip sail]

Yeah

Afaik there isnt anything different from damaging another module

[solemn tundra]

cant any tank ammo rack a is7?

[hazy fulcrum]

Damage it yes but if you’ve got a high calibre gun you can just destroy it outright

[distant sphinx]

Guys should i invest in a t57 or sheridan?

[viral lodge]

Well AMX 50B > T57 🤔

[open solstice]

Wz 113 good for side scraping or hull down?

[hazy fulcrum]

From my experience its fairly difficult to sidescrape, I’m probably doing it wrong though and getting it hull down should be fine but prammo will be able to go through your front plate if you’re not careful

[open solstice]

I guess it's tough to find a good job for the tank

[hazy fulcrum]

It seems to be quite conditional

[tulip sail]

Any tips for the t30 I can only average 2k

[lyric oriole]

Play the T30 kinda like a heavy, you should be playing closer to the frontlines, and trying to hull down when possible. The tank itself is already amazing as the armor isn't great but it'll troll a few people. The gun is fantastic, already having a turret and a 155mm makes it extremely capable of using HE shells Effectively on mediums.

T30 is a great trading tank with other heavies even if the HP is a bit Lower in tier 9. I would recommend avoiding trades with 12.8 cm guns however if possible.

[alpine osprey]

#addmoreATGMs

[solid gate]

@alpine osprey #No

They could have made T29 2 tiers with the Initial Concept then the main version. After that would be T34 then T30.

[vague palm]

Is the fv215b 183 better than maus or no?

Bc since I already have mauschen I was thinking after I get maus I will get fb215b 183

[kind bluff]

183 is not a competitive tank it’s just for trolling

[lyric oriole]

There isn't many tier 10s better than Maus currently. It just has so much HP it can push through everything

[next solstice]

Thankfully it's gun performance stats are meh

[alpine osprey]

#addmoreATGMs

[solid gate]

50B is fun to use wow I really wish I kept it sooner it gets above average pen with CS and still has a reload of 18.4 maxed you can literally punish anything that rolls up on you

[shy hatch]

Playing too much Type 61 makes you unready for how stubborn the STB-1's armor is, T57 clip doesn't go through without absolute clear battleground

[solid gate]

How is the t57s pen? Ik the AP is identical to the 50Bs I forgot about the HEAT

[shy hatch]

Er.., around 320 Ig, not sure about the accuracy

[solid gate]

320 heat is pretty meh

[shy hatch]

Nvm it's 340

[solid gate]

Yeah 50B has 340 standard APCR

[signal oak]

Please add even little bit armor for Fv4202 or something

Its horrible to watch that other tie X mediums has more armor than Fv4202

[glass otter]

What tier X tank is best out of these 8:
Meds- patton, wz121, leo
Eh the patton is a vehicle that nobody cares about in this meta, WZ 121 is one of the best meds imo, the grind is good in general except the tier 9 and leo is decent

[stray nova]

hey, is getting the k-91 worth it? (ping me for answer)

[low elk]

@stray nova its one of the best tier 9 heavies so the answer is yes

[stray nova]

nice thnx

[wise moth]

@solid gate @shy hatch it’s 340 base HEAT pen

[supple pollen]

I am thinking of starting a new tank line any suggestions

[glass otter]

Sheridan, WZ 121,T-62A

[viral lodge]

E50M

[glass otter]

Also that

[viral lodge]

Is-4, T110E5 and T110E3 are also strong rn

[supple pollen]

No like rn im doing the Germans. I want the tiger P and then go up and get the German TD and on the side im working on the Russian TD

[viral lodge]

So you want mid tier suggestions?

[glass otter]

😆

[supple pollen]

Well it takes months to get to ter X and my highest tier is iv rn

[glass otter]

depends on how much you play, i got a tier X like 2 months later after i joined blitz

[viral lodge]

Ah, ok, so my advice is first off get maybe 5-6 tier 6s of different playstyles, the VK36, VK 28, SU-100, JgPzIV, and MT-25 are all good lines with different playstyles

@supple pollen Basically, play whatever line you feel like, the KV-3, Japanese line, both American TD lines tier 7-8 are hard, id avoid, chinese maybe avoid. also avoid the british AT line

[supple pollen]

Well do any of you have IV tanks and wana platoon a round or 2 to help me find the perfect tank line for me

[viral lodge]

Im unavailable sorry, working on something, also dont base a line on its tier 1-4 normally (except for japan)

[supple pollen]

I have a iv mmedium and a iv td

[viral lodge]

just go up any line except the ones I said not to and learn the playstyles

[supple pollen]

Well let me know when your free we could do a training round

[urban raven]

how would win, obj 268 or AMX 50 b

[viral lodge]

🤔 that is a really odd comparison, they are 2 different tank roles

[glass otter]

Yeah

[solid gate]

I d I d I t

[glass otter]

W h a t

[signal steppe]

Bruh su130pm coming in event but nerfed so much it Sucks now
it was the fastest tank destroyer by far
now is noticeably slower than su101 and also got his gun nerfed
its basically a su101 with 0 armor that can be he'ed always... very worth tank..

[viral lodge]

better weak than OP ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy fulcrum]

I’d rather fun than meh

[inland fox]

I found smth

[stable hearth]

@inland fox wtf

[inland fox]

What?

[exotic dune]

Atgm's are ruining the game. the last thing we need is more of them

[glass otter]

Yeah id prefer something that isnt OP

[exotic dune]

Same WG should add a new tech tree line for some line\

[glass otter]

I just hate the fact that the sup.conq isnt a tech tree tank and it seems OP

[wise moth]

Everyone thinks all test tanks are OP all the time
I literally cannot think of a single test tank that people didn't think was OP

[exotic dune]

Yea. I think Wg should add some wheeled vehicles for the france line, but not make the super op

[glass otter]

wheeled vehicles arent coming to the game though

[exotic dune]

I know But it wouold be cool.

[supple pollen]

What do yall think of the e100 tank line and the obj 268 tank line

[south vale]

E100 line is consistent, good frontal armor and can sidescrape

268 line, DERP

[broken turtle]

the start of e100 is the vk 36.01 h, a broken tank. Then the tiger 1, kinda suck but the tiger 2 is a fear

[south vale]

Tiger 1 is good with the buff

[viral lodge]

268 line teaches you derp, E100 line teaches armour, JgE100 line teaches non derp TD.

[wise moth]

@exotic dune Wheeled vehicles are unbelievably obnoxious. Like, missile levels of obnoxious

[exotic dune]

Not really from a stand point of WoT

[wise moth]

Bruh, nobody on WoT likes them, and for good reason

They're extremely hard to hit, and that's even with KB/M, and then also all they do is YOLO which is super annoying

Trying to hit the dam things on mobile? No chance

[modern solstice]

I find aiming to hit fast things a lot easier on blitz than pc, e.g. finding it fairly easy to hit some 150kmh superpershing 😂 I think wheelies would be pretty annoying but fun too

[solid gate]

@wise moth dont forget the tires are basically black holes and absorb all damage

[wise moth]

Everything about them is obnoxioius

[glass otter]

doesn't it get slower if you shoot the tires though?

[solid gate]

No point in shooting the tires since it still builds up speed easily

[lyric oriole]

If the wheels fell off and changed the armor model perhaps it would be better

They could easily make a system that discouraged yoloing across the map if the wheels straight up fell off and the Vehicle had to remain still for 10-15 seconds to replace one

[low elk]

Trying to drive such a speed demon on mobile is even harder lol

[lyric oriole]

With a limited amount of replacements of course

[low elk]

if blitz was to add it
remove the gun
just tell it to go away
give it a tier 8 gun on a tier 10 to make sure it has to flank to pen, low alpha, and bad accuracy everything
then it would become a true light tank and actually play like one

[onyx orbit]

Crazy Damage Block ft. IS-4

[supple pollen]

So is the e100 a good line and is the obj268 a good line and is the jge100 a good tank

Im not new to the game but i m very rusty and need to learn more

[lyric oriole]

The E 100 Line in my Opinion is the best Line in the Game currently, every tank is solid in the line. @supple pollen

If you have more specific questions you can DM them to me

[south vale]

The E100 or the IS-7 are the most noob friendly lines imo

[fair vessel]

#AddthePanhardEBR

[solid gate]

Is anyone Willing to join me on wot

[solid gate]

So today I had a point blank “snapshot” hit the ammo rack of a Bulldog. Full HP to none in one shot. And of course I fired an AP round and was playing the WZ-111-1G FT.

@south vale I don’t know about E 100 itself though. Everyone says you have to know how to angle that tank. “Noobs” don’t and get wrecked in it.

[south vale]

@south vale I don’t know about E 100 itself though. Everyone says you have to know how to angle that tank. “Noobs” don’t and get wrecked in it.
@solid gate
Obviously, but it’s a nice balance overall, yes you do have to angle but as long as u don’t face TD’s or the enemy isn’t firing pramo all you have to worry about is ur lower plate. It has a punchy gun with decent pen and it’s fairly mobile for its size

Also, I use Noobs just as a term to reference new players to the game

[cold aurora]

What if this was in the game as a premium Russian vehicle?

[tulip sail]

a lawsuit

[broken turtle]

does the m26 pershing and then some patton tanks are good? The easy 8 is really hard to play, and idk if the upcoming t20 would be better\

[cold aurora]

@tulip sail what do you mean?

[tulip sail]

That's warthunders property @cold aurora

@broken turtle the t30 isnt that good the perishing is good but average the m46 is good once you get a hang of it and it's full the m48 I haven't played enough to tell but paper stats its good

[broken turtle]

hmmm

the m4a3e8 i need to play like a light tank and spent tons of money in consumables to make it better. Bad pen, bad armor, pretty bad accuracy, acceptable dpm. A guy sweared me that just hull down, but just that can't made out the easy 8 is good.

[tulip sail]

The e8 is excellent if used right it's not a front liner at all it's a flanker and second liner

It's got the accuracy to hit weak points and the maneuverability to hit the sides and flank

[broken turtle]

so now i just play it like a coward supporter. I don't like playing like that, u can't help the team much and its speed isn't good to do some instant action like other light tank flankers

[tulip sail]

It's also a great ridgeliner with its gun dep

[broken turtle]

i can't do hulldown much cuz i won't have a view

[karmic nymph]

The mantlet on it is really good for going hull down

[tulip sail]

@broken turtle that's not how hull down works

Hull down is just when you have your hull covered that's it and with 12° gd it's good at both it also has the highest rpm of the tanks you're comparing it to

[broken turtle]

i can't imagine what people see when facing me

[tulip sail]

Then use the look out to see for yourself

[worn fiber]

I have 7.4k Gold to blow what would yall get?

Im a new account also so pretty bare

[tulip sail]

I'd wait till you have more battles

[broken turtle]

ye

many nubs use money to win but they don't know how to use its adventages

[tulip sail]

Exactly

[worn fiber]

I just like cool tanks

and was wondering about meta

[broken turtle]

u can learn more on yt

[tulip sail]

Meta changes quite often

[worn fiber]

Is there anything wrong with not wanting to run heavys

[broken turtle]

depends on u

[tulip sail]

No not at all just dont camp or yolo

[worn fiber]

I like scouting with light and supporting with TD so far

[broken turtle]

avoid facing toward heavies

[worn fiber]

I just found out about tank.gg and been getting some practise on weak spots

[broken turtle]

tank.gg just about wot

u can use wotinspector (support both blitz and wot), blitzhangar or blitzstar

[worn fiber]

ohhhhh

i thought it was odd they were missing so many tanks

[worn fiber]

Are those containers in the shop worth in any way? Or just a straight scam 3-4% drop rate seems really bad. or am i missing value somewhere

[solid gate]

Does anyone play o. Xbox

Not worth it @worn fiber

[worn fiber]

Thank You

Ive been browsing the blitzhangar site. Can anyone recommend a good jack of all trades medium tank and i prefer speed and lower dmg then a glass cannon

I was moving toward sherman but its not that good according to the site

leaning toward stugg. since it looks like it can compete with most meds

[tulip sail]

The Sherman is very good it just takes skill

[fast compass]

American meds are literally jack of all trades tanks, that is what you want right?

[worn fiber]

Yeah, But that blitzhangar site has the sherman as not good at anything? Should i not take the site so literally?

Cause im at the sherman now just need to buy it.

[hollow notch]

Yup, dont take that part of the site literally. The m4 is great using its maximum gun depression. I would highly recommend the wolverine, as it is basically a m4 with a better gun.

[hard nexus]

at tier 5 nothing really matters

[hollow notch]

Other than the T1

[alpine osprey]

#addmoreATGMs

[broken sentinel]

^^^ Exactly this. Tier 8 meds will struggle excessively hard given that tier 8 medium DPM isn't great and tier 8 heavies already have great armor for their tier.

I completely understand buffing tier 9 heavies, since they need to contend with tier 10s. But the tier 8 buffs and below are just way too much.

I mean if they planned on buffing medium tank damage numbers, that would be fine, but they aren't. I think they could have thought this through much better.

[red slate]

Why is the M7 stronger than AT2
I dont understand

[tender kelp]

cuz the game is balanced

[hard nexus]

tog gets 10 more health something is wrong

[signal oak]

Primo Victoria legendary camo for Centurion 7/1??+

[distant sphinx]

Is t57 rlly bad or am i just playing it wrong

[inner moth]

T57 is a great tank

[sturdy fossil]

Ho-Ri or IS 4?

[strange thicket]

whatever suits your play style
both are doing well

[sturdy fossil]

Okay
How about IS 7 ?

[strange thicket]

i don't really recommend it if you are new to the game

but is4>is7 anyway
if you happen to get is4 then no need to get is7

[sturdy fossil]

Affirmative

After IS 4
I wanna buy fv215b

[strange thicket]

gl

[peak bough]

So how do I restore a tank because I sold my m4a2e4 Sherman to get the t28 concept

[sturdy bane]

@peak bough make a support ticket to restore a premium/collector tank

[broken turtle]

t28 htc is overpower

much more than people think about it\

true pay to win game

[viral lodge]

not really

It’s a very kill able tank

[broken turtle]

just with lt

when ht vs ht and they come to, okey, f***

[viral lodge]

Meds, Lights, and other TD can handle it fine heavy tank is a matter of which heavy

[broken turtle]

just slow ht with low pen can't afford him

but btw its armor is good in tier 7

[viral lodge]

@broken turtle care to specify what heavies have trouble with it? That’s kinda vague, and it’s armour is “decent” frontally but pennable

Also I’m aware of it’s armour... I’ve killed many HTCs

[peak bough]

How do I get a support ticket @sturdy bane

[viral lodge]

You go to the website and go to support, also a reminder if it’s a collector tank you are restoring you do need the gold that you got from selling it (the # of gold not that specific gold)

[peak bough]

Ok

Thank

[broken turtle]

good front armor: 203/102/51 like the at-7 but better speed, decent pen can shot tier 8 ht well

even just a single htc but it can damage and destroy at least about 2 vehicles depend on driver's skill
@viral lodge

good speed make it cover weak spot fast

[strange thicket]

Htc
Is far from op
Jagdpanther>htc

[viral lodge]

I mean, a single player can wipe a single HTC without taking damage if they are skilled, you haven’t exactly listed a heavy that has trouble with it

[broken turtle]

oh i forgot: k, kv-3, pen all

[viral lodge]

🤔 if only 1 tank is unable that just makes the 1 tank bad lol, not HTC OP

[strange thicket]

Kv-3 is not that good
The pen and accuracy aren't that great the armor is nice tier to tier

[open solstice]

IS-3 or tiger 2 which one is better?

[broken turtle]

but still htc op too, cuz its dpm quite nice

[viral lodge]

Tiger II @open solstice

[strange thicket]

Tiger 2

[open solstice]

Reasons?

[broken turtle]

a fear

[strange thicket]

@broken turtle you got jagdpanther
Which can even bounce an is3

@open solstice tiger 2 has better armor and gun but less alpha
While is3 hull is quite pennable but it is really good hull down

[viral lodge]

HTC has armour and that’s it, and a smart player bypasses that armour really easily

[strange thicket]

Oh look
Ain't that ironic

[broken turtle]

hey, if kv-3 can't tier to tier, how can they do upper tier?

im feeling upset

[strange thicket]

What do you mean can't tier to tier
Gun and armor is workable tier to tier
But facing higher tiers is really hard in it

[golden birch]

Maybe the htc isn’t op and the kv3 is just really bad. Also run the 100mm gun

[viral lodge]

^

[broken turtle]

im feeling tired with the kv-3, 27 games but 41% wr and bad stats. I can't carry my teammates (maybe they just think im good and try to get my carry)

[strange thicket]

Imo they should have put is in that line instead of kv3 and also something similar to is

[open solstice]

So should i sell is3 to get tiger 2?

[strange thicket]

No
No need to hurry
Take your time to grind credits and xp
Both tanks have thier advantages and disadvantages one of tiger's disadvantages is it has a weak turret

[viral lodge]

Just keep both, different play styles

[strange thicket]

^

[broken turtle]

should i sell my kv-3?

[strange thicket]

Is4 is worth the grind

[viral lodge]

Just keep going the line is meant to hurt, KV-3 and Stock ST-I are the 2 really bad parts of the grind, and stock KV-4

[broken turtle]

so, since i started playing blitz i just go for hard line: british at td, easy 8, and prototype kv-3, oof

[viral lodge]

Which British TD?

[broken turtle]

at

[viral lodge]

My advice, drop the AT line immediately, it’s a horrible line with the worst T10 at the end.

[strange thicket]

Deathstar ig
Imo that is really a bad choice

[broken turtle]

easy 8 also hurt, but still quite fine

[viral lodge]

Eh, I’d drop E8 and go for the Russian lights

[strange thicket]

You going for the patton

[valid lodge]

At 15 was fun, but that's about it.

[alpine osprey]

#addmoreATGMs

[solid gate]

#bring back AMX 40 that was cuttest tank.

[viral lodge]

It literally just got sold. @solid gate

[solid gate]

Ooof

[hallow forge]

Anyone want to pay $15(4000 gold) to get 2 fire extinguisher and 1 bag?

Isnt this too expensive? Lol
Watch pc wot, like is7, grille's attachment

[open solstice]

Is7 attachment on pc looks really good,like proper aggressive russian

[tender crest]

BRING BACK THE KV-1 SIDE ARMOUR ITS A TRASH TANK and now ist ruined for me 😦

[strange thicket]

no more seal clubbing

[silver sage]

@tender crest no more seal clubbing for u

[viral lodge]

🤔 If a clubber wants a tank buffed that means the tank is perfect

[silver sage]

yus

[solid gate]

Or they met another clubber, but stronger

[viral lodge]

lol

[viral lodge]

that ghost ping

well @bitter lichen ?

[bitter lichen]

HTC has armour and that’s it, and a smart player bypasses that armour really easily
@viral lodge agree, because if I were to encounter an HTC I would aim at one of these two weak spots. It's like a very very big and penetrable weakspot

[viral lodge]

Ya, those are 2 major weakspots, and any elevation and the upper plate is a pen

[solid gate]

I want to know who decided that it was a good idea to nerf the BT-7’s top speed to 45kph

[strange thicket]

@solid gate the tank is still deadly i saw a lot of them in my Russian new account so why are you complaining

You shouldn't be spending a lot of time in that tier so eh

[viral lodge]

^

[solid gate]

bt7 is slower than is7

[next solstice]

Seal Clubbing in Tier 5? Ditch the KV-1, go play the T1 Heavy which is frankly, better in every single way

Is it really tho? That Power to Weight Ratio really says otherwise.

[glass otter]

If you wannna club, atleast club with a decent tank xd

[peak bough]

Question are the first t37 guns free for you guys

Because it not for me and this isnt the first thing because my friends account he gets 1500 xp from the add challenge will I get 750

[lyric oriole]

Uh can you clarify your question a bit @peak bough

[solid gate]

What's the legendary camo price for the IS-7?

[lyric oriole]

This is it @solid gate

[solid gate]

Price as in before you buy it

[lyric oriole]

It's 2800 ish I think let me check the other prices first just to make sure they are consistent

2550

[solid gate]

Okay thanks. I'll be able to purchase the camo when I grab an IS-7.

[broken turtle]

can i sidescape with bad side armor?

[lyric oriole]

I don't know, can you move your turret if the ring is broken?

[onyx orbit]

You can sidescape, expect the damage on it.

@solid gate spend more time playing IS-7 there's a chance that you will receive 50% off camo

[devout tapir]

What are some tips in playing the Mauschen?

[glass relic]

Hide your cupola I'm guessing shrug

[hollow notch]

Basically nothing goes through this in tier 6-7, and plenty of 8s prammo this.

[glass relic]

Why do i image that HTC is like trying to offer you some candy or something

[hollow notch]

Its offering AP candy

[lyric oriole]

I would accept it, but it always goes right through me

[modest barn]

Comedy

[solid gate]

The tracks are secretly held together by a rubber band

[sinful current]

It's actually to help with the tracks incase of the track breaking so the tank could keep moving

[subtle mason]

I wonder if I go t49 route to t54e1, will I miss anything good if I this skip t71 and t69?

[red slate]

What is M7 stronger than AT 2

i dont understand

[solid gate]

T62A or Obj 140?

[carmine crane]

62 @solid gate

[raven jacinth]

@subtle mason not really

[magic ledge]

Any tips to play this smol T-54 ltwt?

[solid trench]

Does the progetto 46 worth tier 9 premium price? I was colecting gold for a tier 9 prem/collector

[hard nexus]

Yes

[solid gate]

@magic ledge
Move, move, move and don't stop.
Spot the enemies for the team and relocate, take out low hp tanks and keep moving 🤔
U don't have gun depression, but u don't have to get shots all of the time. Just poke your gun and turret up and spot.
Dpm is not great in ltwt, so u will lose to other t8 meds or lights in a face off... theoretically at least.

[plucky merlin]

What is the most rare tank which isnt very know like the fury etc

[shy hatch]

Hafen and that other new valkyrie heavy were the rarest to me, barely saw them 3 times, probably cause people doesn't really like these fictional tanks

Or crazy expensive tanks like the Chi-Nu Kai

[strange thicket]

@solid gate you aren't meant to spend a lot of time in that tier anyway
why would you give a tier four a 105m which even some tier8's don't have
just don't seal club

[shy hatch]

Lol guess he made some living from clapping newbies

[solid gate]

Light tank Yhmm nice wg

[onyx orbit]

What if KV-2 was made in France?

[dense parcel]

@solid gate YES!! The armor of those dang lights is ridiculous, and so much people drive them.....

[shy hatch]

And still they ask to re buff it.....

[glass crypt]

tbh if you really think about it, you can fit an autoloader in that turret

[solid gate]

Light tank - No armor, t92e1- red armor at the front for a vehicle with a penetration of 290

remove him from this game or change his rating from a light tank to a medium tank

[shy hatch]

Yea like this T92 light

Vs in reality

[remote bolt]

Any opinion of the Bat-Chatillon light tank? Is it good or nah? Cuz i already have it, but i seldom use it

I also rarely look a player use it, most of them are using MTs or Sheridans

At least can WG buff it, so this tank isn't underrated?

[strange thicket]

well

like the rest of the line it is quite nice if you have the skills to play it

[remote bolt]

For me only ELC, 13 75, n top is good

[shy hatch]

I farmed the BC 25 T just because I got the legendary camo and didn't want to waste it😂 , it can bounce if you know how to wiggle and the tracks do some good job eating shells

[strange thicket]

wiggle?
why would you even stay in the line of fire in it

[shy hatch]

You know, flanking, taking the danger off your "teammates"

[remote bolt]

@shy hatch ok then, thanks for the tips

[shy hatch]

Np, just don't rely too much on the depression, disappointing

[remote bolt]

Yeah

[dreamy plinth]

Leopard 1a2

[remote bolt]

Nice

[dreamy plinth]

Thx you

[solid gate]

So is there a 1A1?

There literally is a leopard 1A1 @solid gate

[olive sky]

gee i wonder what the leopard 1a1 looks like

[sweet peak]

armor on FV4005 is way too good pls nerf it to 5mm

[north musk]

Yoink

[strange thicket]

eh

[solid gate]

@solid gate I thought so. Was just double checking.

[dreamy plinth]

Leopard 1a1

Leopard 1a2

[silver sage]

@remote bolt give it 350 alpha and better dispersion. Or give it 2 secs interclip and better dispersion

[solid gate]

I like the Leopard 1A2 a bit better.

@dreamy plinth that’s not an A1 that’s a normal leopard 1

[dreamy plinth]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[solid gate]

Do you not know how to identify leopard variants or something

[solid gate]

@north musk do you buy it?

I have 8600 gold what tank should i buy, Ping me for your answer

@solid gate for me lorraine 😄

@solid gate i have lorraine

[tulip sail]

It depends on your playstyle

[solid gate]

@tulip sail yea

I just go and shoot

Super pershing isnt bad

I have that

[tulip sail]

Then I dont recommend any till you develop your playstyle so you dont waste money

[solid gate]

Or wait for any event

@tulip sail I dont have an actual play style. Im like a bot people say, whatever class I play, I just roll with it (no tank joke intended)

I cant wait for event I need to spend it

If devs do something cool like let anyone buy whatever tank they want (not research tank) like any premium or collectors tank they want If they have the right amount of gold

@dreamy plinth this is what the leopard 1A1 looks like

[raven jacinth]

Chonk

[south vale]

NEW VEHICLE IDEA

[solid gate]

Out

[south vale]

No

[tulip sail]

I still want an so-122 defender

[south vale]

Won’t happen IMO. So far we have American TD, Russian heavy, and British Medium. So it’ll be A german light next I think?

[tulip sail]

Possibly or Japanese french Chinese or a European country maybe even Yugoslavian hint hint

[viral lodge]

@south vale think of it this way, so far 3 "Defenders" and they are all allied forces. Its probably a french tank or another allied country.

[civic terrace]

No the French already have autoloader

[viral lodge]

I know just saying, Defender probably indicates how the Allies were on the defensive at the start.

[tulip sail]

But not a defender

[viral lodge]

🤔 they can just make a BC T8 reskin it and call it a defender.

[tranquil maple]

Why no one is playing VK45.02A , i havent seen it for few months
,it got buffed very well , people should play it

[viral lodge]

What buff? Its armour is still cardboard quite sure.

[lethal linden]

Is the Leopard 1 worth getting? Iv bought and sold the Leopard PTA cause it sucked but I hear everyone say how amazing the leopard 1 is. I just don't wanna invest all that time and grinding into something not worth it. Also same question with the T57 heavy

[solid gate]

The leopard 1 is amazing but it requires a skilled driver to use it as it punishes it’s driver severely when misused

[south vale]

^^^

[lethal linden]

Ok, ty

[raven jacinth]

bad driver = dead driver

@torn nebula ???

[solid gate]

Someone tell me information about the jagtiger I need it for a school project

[raven jacinth]

It's made by germany
It's german
It's turretless
It carries the 8,8 or the 12,8
It's big
it's a tank destroyer

[midnight hemlock]

how's the VK 30.01D? i just got it lol

[viral lodge]

Its an eh tank, its usable but you will probably want to sell it by the time you get the Panther researched. @midnight hemlock (Panther though is amazing so its worth)

[midnight hemlock]

k thanks lol

[viral lodge]

yw

[solid gate]

K thanks

Forget that. I deleted it @raven jacinth. I misread that one guy’s comment.

I made my own server by the way. In case anyone is interested.

[thorn scarab]

How does one play the Leopard 1 in a way that would most Benefit my team?

[solid gate]

Um scout? Don’t get shot too much.

Kinda like a taller RU 251 with less camo on the move than sitting still I suppose.

[viral lodge]

scout and play passive in the early game, Leo 1 shines in the mid/late game when you can shred lower HP opponents with your dpm

[solid gate]

Then again I don’t have it so am not 100% sure.

[thorn scarab]

Alright. Ty.

[solid gate]

Anyone looking for tournament clan

[tulip sail]

@solid gate you'll have better luck in #tourneys-team-search

[solid gate]

KV-220:

KV-220-2 is correct but this is supposedly the initial KV-220. The -2 was where they removed the turret of KV-220 and put KV-1 turret with 76.2mm gun on the KV-220 hull.

[solid gate]

Ok so a guy was saying there was a Tiger with a Panther turret. He’s unsure if that is true and I’m not convinced either. Anyone know if you could be a fake story or misinterpretation/misidentification?

Oh and um I’m discarding his proposals for CDL tanks and AVRE tanks. I don’t think they’d be good against other tanks. 2B1 Oka because it’s apparently artillery. The one I’m not sure on which way to go is the ZiK-20.

[tulip sail]

I dont see how it would be any less effective

[solid gate]

And looks like T-34-62 (T-34 with T-62 turret) is probably going to be out. They were made to be bunkers even though TE also says there were reports they could supposedly still move.

@tulip sail That one maybe (though it is ugly) could work. But the Matilda one would be useless.

[tulip sail]

Well yeah it had a mg

[solid gate]

Well the M4 and Churchill ones look they lost their guns capable of attempting to pen enemy armor as well. They would be useless in a game of strictly tank on tank action. The CDL tanks seem to be infantry support only.

@solid gate this is what your looking for

@solid gate That the supposed Tiger with Panther turret?

[kindred wren]

That looks like a Tiger prototype turret

[solid gate]

That’s the tigers prototype turret

Ah. Well I was talking about a mere story. Guess it could have been based off that. Then again that turret and the Panther turret don’t look alike.

[tulip sail]

Here's the churchill design

[solid gate]

Well I’d rather not take them into consideration for my own idea. AVRE and CDL tanks are out as is the 2B1 Oka. ZiK-20 not sure about nor am I sure about T-34-62.

[tulip sail]

Why not avre? They had Hesh afaik

[solid gate]

Because they’d probably have low velocity or something that would be too big a hinderance making them poor against other tanks.

[south vale]

Because AVRE- Yeah what VFM said

[solid gate]

He did mention Chieftain and T95 part swapping to which I already have at least 2 of those in my own list of British tanks. Not sure if I’ll give one or 2 to American or not.

Here is the guy’s list of tanks to possibly add to my list:

also a few tanks for your lis are
T-34-62
apparently there was a tiger 1 with a panther turret encountered but I'm not to sure if its true
fv4101 and t95 medium tanks have turrets/hulls can be swapped
ARVE series of British tanks
m3 grant/matilda cdl tanks
SO-122
vozilo A
m3 lancer
2B1 oka
zik-20
fcm f1
Strv 74
the soviet nuclear proof tank

[kindred wren]

Object 279?

[solid gate]

He may have meant that unless there is another. But 279 seems controversial for adding to games.

[kindred wren]

Also, we already have the T95E2, T95E6, Chieftain/T95 and the Chieftain Mk 10.

[solid gate]

I know that. This isn’t for Blitz mate.

[kindred wren]

I just won’t ask

[solid gate]

This is for my own idea that maybe (if not me myself) someone one day could turn into a game. Maybe at least try to rival Blitz. Give Wargaming a true competitor.

[kindred wren]

Good luck with that

[tulip sail]

The centurion avre was a massive upgrade on the churchill avre

[glass relic]

And surely looks cool especially with the ERA on

[tulip sail]

Ehh I've never really liked the look of ERA

[glass relic]

Why? Well in some tanks they look goofy but surely i like them for example like the AMX-30B Super i forgot which model is it.

[solid gate]

Funny Wargaming hasn’t considered AMX-32. Seems a lot like 30 but with spaced armor. But maybe people would have a fit if Wargaming used it. However, I am not Wargaming so I am doing the tech trees and all my way.

[glass relic]

Would love to see your project on making a tech tree yourself.

[tulip sail]

They probably have and I'm generally not a fan of post war aesthetics

[glass relic]

So I'm guessing you like schrüzen?

[solid gate]

I like the Panzer IV H over G so that is my tier V German medium.

[thorny mulch]

Eh anko is decent but g is better

[solid gate]

The H is just the G with shurzen added. Anko is a fake version of the H.

Ok discarding everything what you guys think of ZiK-20 and T-34-62? Could they be feasible for a game or are they a no go?

[glass relic]

But it looks like a Panzer IV J rather than the G model

Idk about the ZiK but I'm looking forward to the T-34-62

[rancid shale]

Yeah g has more armor than the H and it more flexible

[solid gate]

I’m not saying that Wargaming is adding the T-34-62. Which that thing according to reports could still move but it was made to be a bunker.

G has more armor because they buffed it. Anko is not the real Panzer IV H.

[glass relic]

Anko is just basically the GuP version of H model

[rancid shale]

As if I never knew that

[solid gate]

I’d like to have the real version of the H. There may be some differences between the G and H I’m missing but the biggest is the shurzen attached to the hull too. J seems to be a simplified Panzer IV when resources were running low or something like that. I didn’t read too closely on the J.

[glass relic]

Yeah it kind off a cheaper version of the H

[hazy jetty]

Give Leo pta a buff pliz

[solid gate]

Why does PTA have poor gun depression anyway? Yes, 6 degrees is poor for such a vehicle.

[solid gate]

So some of the guys on Fugit’s livestream a few days ago said the Vickers Light 105 and probably Vickers Cruiser are real. But sadly I couldn’t find information on them during my brief search. May have to dig further though.

[glass relic]

Real life counterparts?

[fast compass]

Oh didn't read "are real" part my bad

[solid gate]

Yeah. So far as I know right now they are fake. Unlike the VFM 5 there and the RO2004 which were real to some extent. Well VFM 5 (also called Vickers Mk 5) was basically built and ready to sell but nobody bought it.

[glass relic]

Oh yeah I've heard that last year there were an auction in Australia that sells Centurion Mk1/5 or something near that variants

[solid gate]

Anyone got a link to the TE Discord server?

Also it sounded to me like the British built the VFM 5 to sell to other countries. They didn’t really plan to use it themselves and as far as I know they didn’t. Sadly it was made in the mid to late 80s so Wargaming won’t include it most likely. But I can.

[neon delta]

Bring back A-20 HE pen!

[strange thicket]

Stop seal clubbing !

[lucid brook]

Bring back 105mm German Seal clubber!

[solid gate]

Should I get the k91 pack or the four 7s pack

[glass relic]

Well i'd say the K-91 if you know how to use it

[solid gate]

I haven’t got a tank higher then tier 8 😭 so I probably won’t know how to use it

[glass relic]

Ah then the four sevens might be good for you, since you'll ended up getting into trouble using the K-91 especially with that auto loader mechanics

Or you can always learn on how to use it by watching YouTuber Guides, that's probably the easiest way to understand on how to use it.

[vale vigil]

why can't the tiger II lead to the VK45 02B?

[red slate]

Naiz

[stiff spear]

lol they both look similar indeed

[open solstice]

Which is better m103 or e75?
And why

[glass relic]

I'd say the 103 since it has the special consumables and a good turret for going hulldown and you can used the enchanced speed boost for getting into a good position early game

The E75 are good and well rounded but the easy to pen cupola is keeping yourself on your toes

[solid gate]

The skorpion g i want to have it you are whores

[outer kiln]

Ok chill dude

[open solstice]

Seriously i have like 11 boxes why let me keep them if i can't open them for free

[solid gate]

Yep i had the same idea

[kindred wren]

Bait

[viral lodge]

Probably takes about $50-70 USD in keys to get it. (Guess) so it’s better to wait and see a solid sale

[rotund palm]

There's already Japanese TDs why not Add Japanese Heavies like Type 5 or idk

[viral lodge]

Japanese heavies won’t be added period

WG has said they won’t fit, same for Swedish TDs

[rotund palm]

Rip Type 5 Heavy is bigger than an E100 or Maus i think

[solid gate]

44M Tas:

Didn't they say they're not gonna add the Japanese heavies

Yes. Because they are too big and fat.

[lyric oriole]

They've said they won't do a lot of things that are now in game. Take "We won't" from Wargaming with a grain of salt.

We were apparently never gonna get Chinese Tanks according to Wargaming

[solid gate]

Well Japanese heavies them seem adamant about not adding so far. That’s why we got Japanese TDs instead.

[lyric oriole]

If it makes them money they'll be added, Artillery is truly the one exception because it can't work with how small the maps are unless the shells are ridiculously

[kindred wren]

The Japanese TDs which are just as made up as they could be

[solid gate]

Wait according to Firearm Central the FCM 2C had -20 degrees of gun depression. That’s insane.

[kindred wren]

Would they load it through the roof?

[solid gate]

@kindred wren Actually there are some real Japanese TDs you can find online. But the tier 10 on for sure is fake. The Type designation for the other 2 is fake as well. Now FTR articles are old and probably not perfect but there was a Ho-Ri TD and 2 versions of it they say. They even had an image of what is in game the T II version. The other version kept the Chi-Ri hull machine gun.

@kindred wren I think the FCM 2C and the Char 2C or whatever it was are the same tank. It was a late WW 1 tank at the earliest. A massive heavy tank with a 75mm short barreled gun. If you look at it the barrel really isn’t that long.

[kindred wren]

My second remark was jokingly

[solid gate]

I figured but I still wanted to explain the tank.

[tulip sail]

@solid gate they aren't the same tank at all

One was built in preparation for operation 1919 (I forgot its actual name ) the other was a 30s design

[inland osprey]

The stock turret on the ARL 44 in-game was based on that tank iirc

[solid gate]

It wasn’t really

[tulip sail]

Wasn't the original ARL 44's turret built out of a battleships side or some ship like that

[solid gate]

Dude what I’ve found says the Char 2C and the FCM 2C are the same tank. Though I could be looking in the wrong place.

Ok that second one is the FCM F1 not the 2C.

Also the first image won’t load. Congrats Discord. You failed.

[tulip sail]

The top is the char 2c

[solid gate]

Well I know what the 2C looks like.

[tulip sail]

I miss read what you said and while I doubt the char 2c and fcm were the same most likely a variant

[oak shuttle]

Guys i just got the KV-2 Fully upgraded

is there anything you could help me with or tell me about the Kv2

[low elk]

use the ZiS-6 (tier 7 gun) for stats
use the 152 for giggles

[kindred wren]

Yeah, pick the 152mm gun for no thinking with maximum effect

[low elk]

the 152 is really bad rn
i recommend the ZiS-6 if you want to carry games and do more
but 152 is really fun on the flipside

[compact sierra]

Pershing or Chaffee?

[oak shuttle]

Ok thanks !

[compact sierra]

...

[tulip sail]

Perish all the way all the other can do is run

[lyric oriole]

Those are two completely different tanks, but I would recommend Chaffee because 48 Patton plain sucks right now so go for the long run and use Chaffee

[kindred wren]

Wait. The M48 Patton is not that bad for a medium

[lyric oriole]

That's a hot take

[kindred wren]

I'm serious, it's basically a hulldown medium, and really good at it too

I would actually say that it's more reliable at bouncing when hulldown that the STB-1

[lyric oriole]

It's really not. It's too big, it doesn't have good DPM, it doesn't have good accuracy, it's the slowest in it's class, it's the biggest in it's class, and STB-1 does everything better.

[visual jolt]

No, it has a bigger cupola than the stb

And weak cheeks

[lyric oriole]

Patton has no role in tier 10 currently. People argue flexibility but for what? Proggetto can hold off people better than a Patton because of the auto reloading ability

[solid gate]

Ive bounced more on a progs turret than a Patton tbh

[visual jolt]

It’s not “flexible,” it’s just mediocre at everything

[lyric oriole]

Yep. If I was doing comp I'd be more willing to bring FV4202 than 48 Patton

[visual jolt]

As long as the goal wasn’t a hull down med, I agree @lyric oriole

[kindred wren]

I am pretty sure that you bounced barely anything on the turret of the Progetto because that is the designated weakspot

It's the upper hull that does the tanking

And looking at the average stats in #devs-answers they tend to rather agree with me than with your 'worst in class'

The gun is typically American, which also means that it does a reasonable job at snap shooting, the cheeks are anyone's RNG and not a reliable penetration, and the cupola is not exactly easy to hit

[lyric oriole]

Patton is one of the oldest tier 10s, I would like to remind you that that chart doesn't check for recent battles. As Patton once upon a time had a place in comp and such that was so long ago, that it doesn't accurately display current performance.

[kindred wren]

I actually think that it's a really good medium tank for playing hulldown, because it is still mobile enough to outpace most heavies, but it has a turret that allows you to confidentially trade shots with other people

[lyric oriole]

It's as simple as not touching a tank to preserve a win-rate. How often do you see 48 Pattons Anyhow?

[kindred wren]

That chart shows the stats for 6.8, that's about up-to-date as it gets

[lyric oriole]

Battles don't reset after an update

[kindred wren]

But the stats counter

So you suggest that this chart simply slams all average stats of all players between 55-65% of all time together?

I don't think that that would make sense, because by that you merge countless versions of the game which tells you almost nothing about what changed, and what needs nerfing or buffing, unless you regard them in reference to previous censuses. I would say that it shows the stats over the period of the update

And about how often I see an M48 Patton - well, rarely, if ever. But that is because most of the battles I don't actually play tier ten because I'm grinding, and if I am then I see loads of heavies and tds, basically meta tanks. I see only very few mediums at all

And aside from that, I don't actually count or note down when I see a special tank. I prefer to focus on killing it or supporting it, depending on the colour of the name

[solid gate]

@tulip sail Chaffee is way better than Pershing in my opinion. Pershing is outclassed by most other tanks at it’s tier. There are a few exceptions though.

Ok Wargaming crapped on American mediums because they don’t fill the medium role or any role properly because they are too generalized. They are just ok at most things they can do but also have flaws on top of that. That’s why nobody wants to play them. You need a niche not to try to do everything in one tank. A tank has a role and if it cannot fill that role very well it’s crap.

[tulip sail]

@solid gate I much rather a tank that can do good in most situations than one who is excellent in only 1 or 2

[solid gate]

The only good American mediums are the Shermans. Well except the E2 collector since it lost dpm. The first turret may be strong but that’s not enough to counter the flaws in my opinion. Especially with that lower dpm gun. That’s why I preferred using the second turret and gun. It just felt more flexible that way. Also you still had dummies who would bounce off the strong part(s) of the hull.

Man I hate the Pershing. It’s twice the size of T20 and doesn’t gain that much armor realistically. Only “strong” part is the gun mantlet and that’s it. The gun handling is probably average and the AP pen sucks. The mobility is average at best too. You certainly struggle to outmaneuver any heavy with it but especially the dang Russian ones. The Pershing is nothing special. It’s a joke. Wargaming hates American mediums as far as I’m concerned.

I may have been playing it wrong though. I don’t know. But Pershing certainly isn’t an easy tank to play and it’s not for the average player in my honest opinion.

[zealous anchor]

@kindred wren yep I think it makes more sense that the stats are for individual updates so yeah agree with you

[grizzled gale]

Well if it is about tournaments patton isn't used

[next solstice]

its really easy to ace the PTA lol

[crystal hare]

How do you play the SAu 40, I’m having trouble

[calm inlet]

free xp

its a tier 4

[crystal hare]

Is the Foch even worth it?

[desert citrus]

I think so

[solid gate]

I’m going to be the “idiot” playing Foch with the true right gun. The single shot. Not sure why they nerfed it’s alpha but buffed the reload too. Honestly they should buff the single shot’s reload even more. Looks like it’ll be next to useless compared to the autoloader.

[solid gate]

Not an actual tank but was to test the turret of the Leopard 2:

[unique shell]

top speed improvements to light tanks like the SP l C would be cool

[calm reef]

That tank looks like maybe a 48 patton or the T110e5 chassis with a Leo 2 turret

[calm inlet]

SP 1 C should go 78 kph

[calm reef]

Wait is anggael actually on this server??

[strange thicket]

@tulip sail perishing barely fills any role and does it right
Because everyone can go through you easily and you cannot even brawl in it
Gun mantlet is good but the area around it eh
And i don't even see as much perishings
The whole line is just eh the patton is somewhat rewarding

[tulip sail]

That's why you dont do either of those unless terrain allows you to I've found it to do quite well as a second liner or even a flanker/ ridgeliner

[worn swift]

That's why you play the Super Pershing :P.

[strange thicket]

Still wack

[solid gate]

Guys t341 or is2 (cina tanks)

[wary loom]

jage100 is bs

change my mind

[rotund palm]

Wg is generous enough to give us Boxes we can't even open without spending money

[zealous anchor]

I think is2 (cina tank)

[strange thicket]

@wary loom you just can't play it
Change my mind

[solid gate]

I love this tonk
Active protection system and era are so great
It has around 900 mm on hull
And has 1m long penetrator (apfsds)
That can penetrate up to 900 mm too. it has manless turret so all the crew is located on the impenetrable hull. The only one problem this tank has is low avability
Bcuz it's a new tank new engineers have to be trained to produce it and new factories has to be made
It's T-14 armata btw

Waiting till U add this Russian monster someday

[dull terrace]

When wot blitz comes up with tier XI tanks and adds Abrams etc

[kindred wren]

Tier XI would be 60s and 70s tanks

And funnily enough, the Abrams had a 105mm gun at first

[solid gate]

i heard IS-3 is the most universial tank

[fast grove]

Unluck

[peak harness]

Yes have got a Panther ( it's lu new tank )

[fast grove]

The bad thing about tanks is that massive bombs like to say goodbye to them

[peak harness]

My*

[fast grove]

Nice
Panther is ok tank
But its big
And turret only resists via mantlet

[urban garnet]

Mt25 or kv1s please help

[solid gate]

@calm reef It’s the M48 Patton hull.

T14 Armata would be like tier 15.

[solid gate]

Which tank would you recommend the most from the next: FV4005, BatChat, or specific german heavy/td?

[wary loom]

@strange thicket Most maps aren't made for jage100 lmao
It cant be played properly

[kindred wren]

I would recommend the Bat. Chat. The most, because I think it is very fun to play and also challenges you more than the average tank

[urban garnet]

Mt25 or kv1s which is better ?

[hardy sparrow]

@urban garnet KV1S but the MT25 can be nuisance to the enemy. Mind you,the kv1s has a long reload

[strange thicket]

@wary loom no it can be
sidescraping wiggling are good mechanics which can be used playing this tank and they are actually effective
it is not a bad tank it is decent and you can use it on most of the maps as a second liner
you should be also front lining with it but HP doesn't allow that often so it is better as a second liner
sniping in it tho is meh really

fv183 talk about a tank that can't be played properly
it is almost the same size, no armor, bad mobility and a horribly long reload vs 16.1 seconds on jagpanzer (or something i am not sure)

[spring folio]

Is it just me or is the track cutout a little weird

[strange thicket]

yeah people mentioned it before

[wary loom]

Fv can dish out more dmg imo because of the turret and the less trollish gun (yes, jag seems to have the more troll gun lol)

[strange thicket]

no not at all

[ashen gulch]

If the helsing HO was to come back out for uprising battle type. Is it worth the buy?

[strange thicket]

the only reason anyone would grind that awfully painful line is because of the hesh on the tank nothing else

it literally has no armor mobility and the turret is meh the gun is quite troll too
you can potentially do much more with the jagpanzerE100 as you can actually bounce shots and take positions without needing to hide most of the time because you have none of the listed cough

[wary loom]

fv line was ok actually, torto is a good tank (compared to jagdtiger atleast).
jage100 has armor, yes, but its kinda useless with these big weakspots
even sheridan bounces more lmao

[ashen gulch]

Because at the auction for 2019 Christmas event the Dracula was sold out in the first 24 hours. But the Helsing was still around till the end of the event

[strange thicket]

oh well that sounds like a you problem
side scraping and angling your tank fixes the big weak spots which i assume you mean the area around the gun mantlet it has 250mm base armor
as for the lower plate it is the same deal
jagtiger out classes the tortoise lmao it can actually go hulldown and use its armor unlike the tort which is just full of flat angles and a fat cupola and the jagtiger is a dpm beast 6.9(460alpha) as far as i remember and it is recieving a buff too @wary loom

[ashen gulch]

But the Helsing is the more OP tank. Considering you have a 10 second reload with double barrels, and if both shots land on your target you get around 400. While with Dracula you have bad armour, Bad reload, bad camouflage, and a bit of view range.

[glass relic]

I'd take Jagdboo than the tortoise

Well the Viewränge on the drac are sucks since it has no cupola, and it mostly can only spot targets with it's gun scope mount thingy

[wary loom]

Torto has the better gun and gun arc, a wonderful HE pen and atleast trollish armor
Jagdtiger is an ez pen, even hulldown you're gonna get pen thru your gun mantlet @strange thicket
And btw, more armor doesn't always makes your tank more effective

[glass relic]

The camo isn't that bad on the drac, imo it has fairly good camo and the reload are a mediocre for it's tier

Well having a trollish armor won't always makes it great too

[ashen gulch]

The dracula has a 30 camouflage rating without equipment. and 25 while moving and 8 for firing

[glass relic]

It still good for a medium and it's not a light tank so I'd take it as something good

And you always have that good mobility to reset your camo and relocate your positions

[ashen gulch]

yeah. but the dracula is 90% a light. tank. the view range and speed. I'm confused why its a medium tank. Is it just to big to be a light tank?

[glass relic]

It's just a shrinken down CDC

[ashen gulch]

yeah

[glass relic]

Well the BC has a good mobility for a medium tank too, in the game it classified as a light but it was meant to be a medium

[strange thicket]

@wary loom tort is not more effective in anyway neither the deathstar
you can go through the jagtigers upper structure sure but with insane pen you also meet tier 8s which has no chance not the same case for tort
tort is nearly the same size with less armor
sure my guy you have a better gun arc but i would out dpm the tank everyday (in jagtiger)
you have armor which is relatively good on the German TDS once used right so i don't know how in anyway shape or form
the fv is better than jagpanzer and the tort is better than jagtiger(which is getting better armor soon too)

[glass relic]

@strange thicket that guy probably really love his Tortoise

[ashen gulch]

but the Dracula is better then CDC. the CDC faces T9 derp guns. while Dracula faces T8 and T6

[glass relic]

Well yeah... It surely is

But well I don't mind baiting those derps on me, it's just fun poking with it and making them miss

[strange thicket]

it is basically a cdc in tier 7

[ashen gulch]

My friend who plays CDC. Can't even play Dracula. Like how? Its the same tank.

[glass relic]

Then your friend might have a problem playing the CDC too i guess

[ashen gulch]

he has 2k games in it tho

[glass relic]

Then surely he won't gonna have a problem playing other tanks

[fiery glacier]

how good is panzer 58? it is kinda uncommon and i don't quite know how well it works

[glass relic]

It's not that good

[ashen gulch]

Yeah. Its like the inden panzer on wot pc

[fiery glacier]

im 10 cert off after opening some crates and im not sure if i wanna get more keys

[glass relic]

Well it's basically a better indien in the mobility part idk about the gun tho

[wary loom]

Loving torto? No lol @glass relic
What I'm trying to say is more armor doesnt makes a tank instantly better or effective
Gun arc = More shots = more effective.
Same with 183, turret = better dispersion while rotating = more hits.
Jage100 and jagtiger may have better guns, but they need to turn their whole structure and instantly place a shot if they want to hit anything lol @strange thicket

[ashen gulch]

Oof. My rule is i don't spend anything on crates, unless its for the Dracula Two Faced camouflage, Or its Helsing with raven camo

[fiery glacier]

i tend to gamble a small amount when crates comes out
except for chinu kai crate of course

[glass relic]

I never really having a problem playing turretless TD.

And the gun arc i can pretty much deal with those things if I'm patient enough, and surely i don't need like a good aim time or dispersion both of them can be dealt using the equipment and patience while predicting some shots on the circle

And have you tried to like angle your armor? Like come on just angle that jagd armor then it cannot be penned that ease, like just wiggle while going hulldown and that heat round won't gonna easily go through

[ashen gulch]

The isu 122s will help if you have it

[wary loom]

You need a good gun with Tds lmao
Try hitting hulldown meds and heavies with awful dispersion/aim time stats

@ashen gulch funny, I've grinded most Tds lol

[strange thicket]

@wary loom those things your mentioned are nice but are completely irrelevant because the massive lack in other aspects
while i agree it has better gun arc and the other one has a turret it is still less effective cuz you get cleared easily and you trade HP to get a hit or two
so yeah the british tds having better gun arc and a turret doesn't make them more effective too

[glass relic]

Why would i try to shoot a hulldowning tank, if I'm forced to do it then i can always shoot their cupola,prammo'ed them,HE'ing then relocate and that's it

[strange thicket]

also the penteration on jagpanzer and tiger is great which will allow you to butter through most tanks lol
you can't have everything in a single td you know
and if we put the 2 tanks against eachother i am sure you know who will win

[ashen gulch]

@wary loom The ISU 122S. Is the best T7 premium tank destroyer. 8 second reload for a average of 450 damage per shot. and has 3.1k dpm

[strange thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502017295107883008/689796230817382481/6.8_-_tier_10.png

stats also says other wise about the british tds being more effective
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502017295107883008/689796227331784734/6.8_-_tier_9.png

[glass relic]

I don't get it why would he keep saying that the brits TD is more effective than the Jagd

It has some flaws in each of them but then again yeah..

[strange thicket]

the line itself is much more worse than the jagd line

[wary loom]

Both JP are great, thats true
But Jagdtiger was real pain tbh

[glass relic]

Surely better than the tortoise unreliable armor imo

[strange thicket]

it took me time to get used to it but hey
i got 67 wr in it and 2300 average dmg(almost i think)

[wary loom]

not op stats but atleast decent wr

compared to jagdtiger..

[glass relic]

That's quite a gap there

[wary loom]

yeah, jagtigers' stats should be better, after 2 years of playing this game
I've grinded torto when I was a half-noob lol

[glass relic]

Wew can't believe you can get away with the pain of getting penned even by tier 8

[wary loom]

Jag too, not only torto

[strange thicket]

weird

i got 67wr or something
lemme check

oh well it is 61% i mstaked the tank with y5 t-34 lol

my wr is 58(average) and i have been having a really bad matches that dropped it even more

[calm inlet]

@barren gulch @stone wigeon on the equipment, run CS-Supercharge-Refined Gun on the 15 cm gun, and Rammer-GLD-V Stabs on the 12,8 cm

whoever said to run that stuff on the derp gun, you were right

[barren gulch]

yes

this is the way

[calm inlet]

heh

Borsig's been one of my favorite tanks lately. for some reason, been playing super well in it

12,8 cm works but if you can, just get a Skorpion. you kind of have to run the 15 cm

[barren gulch]

its a great tank why dont u join the VC and discuss?

[calm inlet]

can't unmute right now lol, working. sorry

[barren gulch]

lol kk sweet

[calm inlet]

my avg damage went down from 2500 to 2450 for my 30 day, but ill get it back up soon

[barren gulch]

in Rhm

[calm inlet]

i just need 6 more battles to see my rankings in the Rhm for 30 day

oh man, at least get refined/vstabs

its got the godly heat pen

[kind bluff]

Waffle better tier for tier imo

[barren gulch]

I hate trhe WT

[calm inlet]

yeah use AP when you can get away with it but load the HEAT on tanks like the Tiger II and stop aiming

[barren gulch]

this man knows the way

[calm inlet]

WT is better tier-for-tier yeah

having actual gun depression, decent AP pen, and being able to snap shots off is just incredible

[barren gulch]

i couldnt understand the tank

[calm inlet]

rear mounted can be somewhat annoying but it doesn't matter too much but you're gonna get penned anyways

so you have to poke out from the side and use your gun depression

[barren gulch]

it wasnt the turret i think it was the fact that the camo is less

[calm inlet]

Port Bay?

[barren gulch]

yeah TD spots on that map

[calm inlet]

control the green area of the map, that's what you want to control first

really easy to reset B if you control the green zone

@barren gulch deleted rn because it was useless for forever, but today we got a music bot

so im chillin

[barren gulch]

sweet

chill tunes

[calm inlet]

yeah I drive my WT and Rhm there, would not recommend for slow traverse TD's

id rather play kpop but I don't need a revolt on my hands

[barren gulch]

no kpop ill eat a toe

[calm inlet]

works better for thin meds that have a good gun but cant afford to brawl on the island

[stone wigeon]

I miss more dedicated sniping spots

although we already have enough td players at high tiers

[solid gate]

Sturmgeschütz E 100

Sturmgeschütz Maus

Ok this is FTR’s design of the StuG Maus: (Though this did say it is unlikely the Germans would have chosen this design as it would require redesigned the Maus beforehand.)

There’s also this some people seem to be calling a type of StuG Maus: (I doubt this would work either.)

[wise moth]

The 2nd picture looks like a fan creation, since the mantlet is an ISU mantlet

[solid gate]

Now The Armored Patrol’s StuG Maus: (This one I think it the most feasible.)

@wise moth That second one probably is a fan creation. I knew something was off with it.

[solid gate]

Wait looks like TAP’s StuG Maus uses the Maus II hull while the FTR one uses the original Maus hull. The road wheels are the key difference.

[next solstice]

E5 has disgustingly squishy ammo

[solid gate]

I ammoracked one in 50B earlier

[tulip sail]

Why did nobody tell me just how nice the loraine was I would have played it a lot sooner

[kindred wren]

@tulip sail Just saying, the Lorraine is very nice

[tulip sail]

Ig better late than never but that thing is fantastic until I over extend and get too aggressive

[vale heath]

When vk 72.01 k getting legendary camo?

[solid gate]

Yo yo yo

[frail dagger]

When vk 72.01 k getting legendary camo?
@vale heath the jageroo needs one first

[vale heath]

tru

all tier 10ns need a legendary tbh

[frail dagger]

Yea i do think tanks need legendary camos, i do have some ideas for a jageroo legendary camo

[solid gate]

I’d like something like this to be the winter camo on all the tanks that don’t get legendary camos:

Also there is this British camo supposedly for desert: (Though the image isn’t exactly in color.)

This would be a good one for summer:

Not saying they’d be perfect on every tanks but I have issue with some of the current camos. But really I want to come up with my own.

[tulip sail]

Personally I would like more historical based camos

[solid gate]

It looks like strv 104

@solid gate

[bronze kestrel]

Anyone not what the modules are for the t92e1 and sheridan

[solid gate]

@tulip sail Supposed those are historical camos. Early to mid Cold War ones somebody dug up.

@solid gate It could be. Basically a Centurion though.

[pliant lodge]

So I noticed something weird when the ATMG tanks came out on Blitz.

As you know you obtain elite status on a tank when you've researched all modules and tanks. But my T49 still have elite status despite that I do not own nor I have researched the T92 (atmg) tank.

I had 162k experience in the T49, I thought that It wouldn't use it up because I still didn't have the T92. So I was close on getting the T92. But my XP just disappeared to 0. Without me even knowing why. please fix this problem!

[solid gate]

@pliant lodge That happens a lot. Like when the Japanese TDs came out those who elited Chi-To kept it elited.

[pliant lodge]

I lost 162k XP that was going for the T92 -w- ...

[solid gate]

Well now that last thing from the third paragraph is strange and doesn’t happen often.

adds StuG Maus Muahahahahaha

[solid gate]

Wow! The 183 doesn’t even have a bar on the 6.9 charts.

Also why does the 12.8cm on the Waffentrager have bad gun depression again?

[bleak root]

Kv 4's damage is going down

[solid gate]

At least we won’t be getting this:

A heavy with a 175mm gun.

[solid gate]

I think WG should rename the Nightmare in StuH 42 Nightmare, since the tank is basically the StuG III Ausf. F variant armed with a 105 mm howitzer, with Halloween camo

[solid gate]

I see. Makes sense.

[tulip sail]

@solid gate what I'm saying is I'm tired of seeing these bright yellow and red or lava coloured camo that just doesn't look as good

[solid gate]

@tulip sail That and that pink camo. Starlight night is ok but not the best if you are going for a nighttime related camo. Plus since we don’t have night in this game that camo looks silly. In the day it sticks out like a sore thumb. There are many camos in this game that are just ugly or don’t make sense.

[tulip sail]

Exactly and I love the look of realistic camos (and ones that are more specific such as the chieftain/t95s)

[solid gate]

Yeah. The legendary camos are usually the best ones. Probably because they remodel the tanks somehow when you add them. Not sure how that works. The rest can (and some do) have “clipping” issues. As in the base color of the tank shows through in some spots.

Plus I like the camos that recolor the road wheels too. The ones that don’t end up bothering me as the road wheels seem to be a sore eyesight when they have the base color while the rest of the tank is camouflaged.

[tulip sail]

Depending on the vehicle is whether or not its annoying for me

[solid gate]

Well German ones in particular are annoying with the metallic grey road wheels but the rest being camouflaged. Especially if you put a dark camo on them.

[woeful horizon]

we need type 5 heavy

[tulip sail]

Nah we need the M-60

[wise moth]

@tulip sail 🤔

[tulip sail]

That's not an M-60

[wise moth]

@tulip sail 🤔

[tulip sail]

This is an M-60

The - makes it a different tank the M-60 is an M-50 with a hyper velocity 60mm gun

[solid gate]

StuG E 100 again. That is the correct name for it and not JagdPanzer E 100.

[hardy sparrow]

Jgpz would look like a bigger Jpnather 1 irl

Because a big flaw with that version is tha the engine is vulnerable to fire

[solid gate]

I know but it’s based on the E 100 so you cannot have a front mounted casemate. That would put too much strain on the front drive wheel and such.

[gilded breach]

if this was added you could go around ammoracking KV-2s

[minor mica]

Does anyone know the selling price of the t57 heavy ?

[solid gate]

same as other T10s being sold

T57 Heavy is tech tree and all tech tree tier 10s are 6.1k credits.

[calm inlet]

6.1 million credits

@minor mica 3,050,000 credits

dont sell Tier 10's, buying them back is very expensive

[minor mica]

Yea I learned it the hard way

[thorny mulch]

Never sell a tier 10 🙂

[hollow notch]

Can confirm this is a bad idea, I now have approximately 80 million credits to grind because of it.

[minor mica]

oof bro

I have like 12mil to grind then

[high lintel]

Obj. 140 or T-62a is better?

[hard nexus]

preference, but majority weighs on the t62a mainly because of the gd

[solemn ravine]

its only real weakness was the gd

[hard nexus]

t62a was still good with 5 degrees of gd

personally im still on the 140 boat

[solemn ravine]

yea it was but the positions you can use now have increased, always been a t62 guy

[valid lodge]

T26E5 worth it or wasted?

[broken turtle]

hellcat vs jackson, which i should go for?

[static nimbus]

T26e5 any good

[solid gate]

very good

[dusty tendon]

Chi-nu Kai needs en engine buff, IMO, any toughs ?

[dapper panther]

engine buff, reload buff AND some armor thiccness

[solid gate]

I think it's fine, just better engine is enough

[lucid brook]

should i use the HEAT version of 7/1 gun or the HESH one

[rancid mauve]

I’m considering buying back the Mauschen to get the big boy Maus.. I had the Mauschen but sold it because I disliked its performance in tier 9/10. I want the Maus but I really couldn’t be bothered to play that dang Mauschen haha

[lucid brook]

mauschen is good for blocking damage, although it has slow mobility

and u also got the maus gun with decent aiming time and accuracy

lol nice autocorrect

[lyric oriole]

Mäuschen will be getting a health buff with the other heavies soon though so it should be bearable then

[fluid parrot]

Perfection

[rancid mauve]

I mean yeah it blocks damage, but I feel like I block more in the VK.. it’s like the Mauschen’s weak cheeks are slightly too large or something. The gun is okay though. I wish the turret was more flat to be able to actually angle better

[boreal shell]

I agree, VK100P’s armor seems a bit more reliable to me. Mauschens traverse isn’t as good as the 100ps making it harder to angle quickly

[heady lintel]

@cosmic halo Personally looking back, do you think that the lower tiers (1-4) were more fun than the grinding required to keep up with others. or do you enjoy playing tier ten tanks the most. I'm debating starting a petition to bring back more researchable tech tree tanks for tiers 4 and below. Do you think I should go through with it?

[vague lily]

did anyone else here got the maus just for training rooms?

[heady lintel]

lol thats what tier tens are for because they cost so much to run

[vague lily]

true

[thick trout]

@heady lintel They don't cost anything if you play them well 🤷‍♀️

[heady lintel]

this is true but their credit coefficient is pretty low

theres no real incentive to play them

[thick trout]

Fun isn't an incentive?

[glass relic]

Well for me personally playing a t10 is just for fun and discovering new strats

And also t10 isn't a good place to grind creds anyway and so is tier 9

[vague lily]

they say tier 10 is the most competitive tier with the best players but well it isnt

[boreal shell]

Skill on getting good mm

[glass relic]

Well there's.. a lot of low iq players rushing tier 10s... Especially when there's like K91 offer that'll ruin most of high tiers... Because of brainless people playing it

[tight void]

Hey guys, I have a question. Is the t26e5 worth paying 30 bucks for or is there a better premium coming into the store?

[low elk]

there are better ones
T26E5 is not that good

[viral lodge]

It looks like a Super Pershing 2.0

[tranquil gorge]

lmao im bad

0% winrate

[tulip sail]

I recommend putting it on the back burner and grinding free xp or playing it in uprising until its maxed

[swift lava]

WG why u make that first shell to load so long like why can’t you mak it 6 second then keep the 5 and keep the 4

[viral lodge]

the tank is perfectly fine

[lyric oriole]

• 7.5 seconds isn't very long in the grand scheme of things. It's fairly close to the Reload of AMX 30 B

[urban garnet]

What is the best tier 6 Russian tank ??????

[vague lily]

the t54ltwl

[urban garnet]

Kv1s or kv2 ?.

[final adder]

one that's tier 8 not 6 prob su-100 or kv-1s

[urban garnet]

Not kv 2 ?

[final adder]

122 is enough more reliable at range, better pen (mainly for up tier) reaping 400 off a tier 6 is enough let alone tier 5 with next to 3/4.

[bold pecan]

Best tank in each tier?

[thorny mulch]

These are some good tanks but not all
Tier 6- vk36.01H or Arl 44
Tier 7- su-152,IS, Tiger 1, p43 ter
Tier 8- tiger 2, isu-152,
Tier 9- st-1, e-75, t-54
Tier 10- Is-4, obj 268, foch 155, e-100, t57 heavy

[tacit flare]

T62-A is easily the best med in game

[lyric oriole]

I would argue Chimera to be the best Medium in the game

[solid gate]

Centurion defender is imo

[tacit flare]

t62 has fast reload good pen and armour

[lyric oriole]

Good pen?

[tacit flare]

i’d say so yes

[solid gate]

Is it a broken tier 8 premium tho?

[tacit flare]

yes

[lyric oriole]

T62A has terrible Penetration

[tacit flare]

i think it’s pretty good

[solid gate]

It’s lower than most mediums

[still bough]

245 = very meh

[lyric oriole]

• 300 HEAT

[tacit flare]

yes but it was a very fast reload and great maneuverability so it can outplay basically any tank if done right

[lyric oriole]

That last line is true to any tank, doesn't make it good

[still bough]

^^

[tacit flare]

still best med in game

[still bough]

sad t-22 noises

[tacit flare]

t22 is broken but good

[solid gate]

It’s not even broken

[lyric oriole]

With the way heavies are set up higher alpha works better.

Reduced exposure time + not losing as many trades matter much more with the current Heavy meta in tier 10.

E50 M or 121 are preferable

[still bough]

121 is an excellent tank

[lyric oriole]

Honestly FV4202 is doing a bit better with the Heavy tank buffs due to its HESH

[tacit flare]

i love the 121

but not many people run the 4202, they go for the leo’s and E50s

[lyric oriole]

Leo has too many risks to make the DPM worth it

[tacit flare]

that’s true, it’s cause it has paper armour

[zealous anchor]

Can 121 fight Russian meds?

[lyric oriole]

Yes

[zealous anchor]

Should I like grind wz113 line before 121 will it make the grind less painful

[lyric oriole]

121 is mobile enough to force Russian meds to trade

[tacit flare]

ehhhhh, depends on the players. they r great tanks but i think it’s out played by 62-A

[fast grove]

Tbh 121 has a turret that is unreliable

[lyric oriole]

Given 310 Alpha Vs. 420 that 110 damage gap becomes huge

[tacit flare]

but it has a 2 sec or more longer reload so that 110 becomes irrelevant real quick

[lyric oriole]

Not in a trade situation

Against a slower target yes, but 121 is about on par with mobility. If it can keep a distance of at least medium range it'll win

[tacit flare]

T62 has better turret armour so in a trade situation it could pen the turret of the 121 so the 62 could pull through

[zealous anchor]

It's ok it's kinda relative both of you might be right at the same time

[tacit flare]

it comes down to the player, so we could both be right

[solid gate]

Is armour inspector lying, or does the E75 TS really have 295mm effective side armour when perpendicular?

[vale heath]

Why no love for vk72?

It's such an underrated tank

[rancid mauve]

@solid gate it’s probably adding the spaced armour as well. Since the space armor covers the entire side of the tank, then there’s a gap THEN there’s the actual side armour of the tank to pen after all that

But there could be something else or whatever so don’t take my word for it 🤣

[kindred wren]

Somehow the stats for the spaced armour are a mess and not even symmetrical. Maybe a bug of the armor inspector

[solid gate]

Its a bug in the hitskin