Its so easy to pen .-.
#vehicles-discussion
viral lodge
solid gate
That side armor is troll against lights tanks such as AMX 12t. Could be that red block and RNG.
viral lodge
the extrusion is a no go for shooting.
@solid gate AMX 12t ^
Between the cupola and weak LFP this tank is very similar to the Tiger (P) but it is more affective since less people for one know to shoot the LFP (Cause its covered by something) and same cupola type thing as the AT2, doesnt work vs semi experienced players.
Tier 6 heavies are relatively easy to kill compared to tier 8/10 ones lol
@broken turtle @serene zealot ^
heady lintel
i once killed the tank by only shooting the cupola tho
its a big target compared to at2
viral lodge
That happens a lot, its decently easy to hit
The tank is definitely a good tank but its armour is pretty easy to bypass. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
Well I know where to aim usually but RNG can troll ya and make you hit the red or otherwise bounce somehow.
viral lodge
ya, this is an example of a shot that could go wrong
top of the back hull and the right side and turret right are possible bounces.
solid gate
I’m usually talking about shooting the front lower plate or sometimes the side armor at an angle that isn’t 90 degrees to the VK’s side. Especially with a low pen tank like the 12t.
broken turtle
well in-game highlighting shown the lower glasis with many neil cant pen
viral lodge
LFP is an easy pen but you need to shoot center.
Cupola is also an option.
The tank is a good tank for its tier but isnt that hard to kill with knowledge.
tier 6 is pretty balanced ¯_(ツ)_/¯
broken turtle
with many russian tanks cupola is too hard to shoot except tds
viral lodge
🤔 Why shoot russian cupolas, KV-1, KV-1S, and KV-2 all have sucky hull armour.
broken turtle
no i mean russian accuracy is too hard to do some incredible small shot
broken turtle
i mean the long aiming time of the russian accuracy
viral lodge
Its workable, I played the KV-1S earlier and it isnt that bad with equipment and max crew
broken turtle
well recently i met a kv-2 moving and 1-shot me from pretty far without aim
viral lodge
Thats called RNG.
serene zealot
It also depends what gun he is using 10 cm 15 cm or the other one
viral lodge
I always assume its the top gun on any tank.
serene zealot
But I am going to go and use the gravity event because for me and the NA server we start in about 5 mins
viral lodge
Servers are going to get overloaded knowing WG lol
btw ben, idk if you did or not but scroll up, the pictures/gifs I sent show the VK 36 weakspots @serene zealot
serene zealot
I have also seen them in battle before when I use Kv-1s,tog and nashorn I can pierce him a lot and it works well hitting cupula’s too
10 secs bye
viral lodge
ya, VK 36 is a good tank (2nd best heavy) but tier 6 is pretty fair for players.
broken turtle
i ignore the vk 36 to get the vk 30 p for tiger p
then i get then panther for the tiger 2
fringe notch
@viral lodge good images, especially the vid/gifs. Pretty sure my experience is mostly due to RNG, those little red patches have a habit of getting much larger between pulling the trigger and the shell hitting the target!
viral lodge
it can definitely make shots tricky
solid gate
I forget what this tank is called:
slender cliff
@broken turtle vk 36 is way better than the vk30
royal charm
Tips for IS-5?
neon comet
Don’t get ammoracked
strange thicket
@neon comet it doesn't even get ammo racked
I think you are mistaken for is7
neon comet
IS 5, and IS 7 both have ammo racks in their pike nose.... I for one have been ammoracked in my IS 5 a couple times
Is 7 does looks like it is slightly more prone, but IS 5 does have a pretty good chance to get racked
nova sigil
:/
strange thicket
Yeah nah
I never really got ammo racked in it
And the amount of guns that can do it isn't much
It is the same as the is7 ammo rack
People keep talkin stuff sbout it but in reality it is like 1 or 2 every 200 matches
royal charm
Allright in order not to get ammo racked, I decided I would not load any ammo at all
I will rely on ramming to do damage
hollow belfry
@strange thicket is 7 gets ammoracked a whole lot more often though lol. Just need some enemies who know where to aim. :)
broken turtle
@broken turtle vk 36 is way better than the vk30
@slender cliff
ye, but i get for the future, i'll get the tiger p and tiger 2
kind bluff
I feel like recently I’ve been ammo racked so many times on a shot that would already normally kill me anyways now.
Like I get shot for 500 at 400 hp and i know I died but it also says ammo rack destroyed and I’m like “hmm”
lyric oriole
It's pretty easy for that to happen. The ammo rack can still take damage, but not take enough to be in a state where your reload is penalized, same goes for other modules, someone may chip away at it's health, and that's why it breaks without going into a damaged state
full berry
im just gonna put this here, i havent used the ELC AMX in so long bc of the xp i have on it
crystal hare
@broken turtle that was the strat I was goin for exactly as u said tiger p and tiger II
solid gate
Why? U already have bigger gun in t9 and didn't this get some armor buff recently? @tiny dagger
I have JgTig8.8 and I find it to be op in certain situations, It doesn't need buff in anywhere
tiny dagger
Has to be much better
solid gate
🤡
strange thicket
@tiny dagger no
you have jagtiger
and no it is a tier8 it is frontal armor is too good
hushed shadow
Why did the Tog have the 1.5k hp all this time? Tier 6 tanks have much lesser than that
strange thicket
because it is long and has no armor and slow
hard nexus
and its only getting 10 more hp in the next update
calm inlet
thats so lame
kindred mason
god i hate the wz-120 top gun so much, 3 degrees of gun depression makes me cry so hard because any bump will not let you get your gun down enough... wg pls fix
strange thicket
i think it is trading the gun depression for the reload and alpha
kindred mason
most t9s have +- 200 same dpm, and they don't have 3 gd
it doesn't sound awful but it really is, if this game had more city maps then it would probably be alright, but considering most of the maps are hilly and stuff, this tank is just physical pain to try playing
strange thicket
Nah not really
solid gate
I like 6.10 preview on Blitz Hangar. Well except for what’s happening to the tier V Leopard. Poor thing cannot catch a break. They nerfed it down and for a time it was meh compared to what it once was. Then they buffed it back. Now nerfing it again but also changing how many shells in a burst from 3 to 4. A lot of heavies getting HP buffs. Just go check the preview for yourselves if you haven’t already.
@solid gate JT hasn’t gotten an armor buff yet. That’ll probably be only for the tier 9 anyway since it faces even bigger targets.
Oh, ok. I think the buff for 8.8 would be overkill anyway 🤔 @solid gate that tank is a nasty opponent like the t9 one, dpm is ripping enemy to pieces if they stand in front.
I like both tanks very much, if u get the lower plate hidden it is pure murder 🤣
solid gate
Yeah. That’s the tricky part though. Hull downing and angling right without over angling.
lofty saffron
I'm looking for a good tier 7 premium. Which would be best?
dapper panther
Rudy, Su122, FV201, Type62
velvet snow
I have Rudy he is verrryyy goood
lyric oriole
Rudy is about to be super power creeped by HP changes to heavies in tier 7, I would advise you to wait until after the changes and reassess, even as it is Rudy isn't one of the better tier 7 Premium tanks
velvet snow
I have M4/fl10 very OP
Rudy don t have a good pénétration
hello, I bought the t28 htc without doing it on purpose and I contacted wargayming by sending a ticket, without response .. should I send an email?
Sniif
lyric oriole
You sent it during the weekend you are probably not going to get a response until Monday.
Even then it takes generally a day for response anyhow
velvet snow
Oh ok thx broo
candid harbor
@kindred mason it has gun elevation, which can be used to create artificially gun depression with bumps
kindred mason
@candid harbor and then you go up a hill to only get shot by an enemy in your back which most of the time ends in an engine fire :)
candid harbor
it is a bebe td, you can't play it like conventional meds
velvet snow
@lyric oriole how I play, in the pack I bought without doing it on purpose I just realized that there is prenium ...
lyric oriole
As long as you haven't played any battles you will be fine, if you have played battles with the Premium time you can't get a refund
lost cypress
any tips on the T-54 ltwt?
neon comet
You know, this would have been a good time for them not to buff the smasher with the other heavy tanks....
That thing needs a little power creep
velvet snow
@lyric oriole I played 2-3 party before realizing it :(
they don't reimburse me ! Nice THX WARGAMING !
gentle wasp
because you played it. Lol.
velvet snow
Yeah two game... In entraînement
I am really disappointed me who went to give money in the games .. they can count on someone else
I did a room where I played 30 seconds and another 1minute 30 because a fool joined and I decided to raise except that I forgot to change tanks and this fools attacked me so I killed it (tier 7 vs8 xd )
@gentle wasp ..
@lyric oriole
gentle wasp
@velvet snow training room you mean?
velvet snow
Yeah..
gentle wasp
@velvet snow oh that should not count then. why did they say they could not give you a refund?
velvet snow
yes they don't want to reimburse me, I'm really disappointed ..

gentle wasp
@velvet snow what was the reason? do you have ss of the ticket
gentle wasp
ah
lyric oriole
I don't blame Wargaming because even if it's in a training room that's still trying a product Effectively
velvet snow
gentle wasp
yea true its the same concept but I thought the policy was one real battle (aka it shows up on stats)
@velvet snow ok so what does it say
velvet snow
Wait i going to trad for u
lyric oriole
The thing is, let's say someone has a YouTube channel and they only use it in a training room, if they have footage, even a replay, they may use that content and upon refund they wouldn't have rights to it and it would get much more complicated.
velvet snow
Hello LazZ_maT, Thank you for contacting Wargaming player support. I understand the situation that you are bringing us back to and I am sorry but we are simply going to be able to help you. Any content purchased and used even in the training room cannot be refunded. I hope this makes this situation clearer and I am sorry that I cannot help you more. We invite you to post your feedback on the forums, the community team can report back to the developers. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Good day and good game! Cordially.
gentle wasp
ah ok
velvet snow
I have the replay
gentle wasp
interesting, did you tell them that you used it in TR or did he know that
velvet snow
they know that i played indoors i told them and said like a moron ..
gentle wasp
ah. rip
velvet snow
Yep..
gentle wasp
sorry m8. best thing to do is try and enjoy the tank i guess
velvet snow
it's t28HTC I HATE IT !!!!
gentle wasp
why did you buy it then
velvet snow
I missclick bro..
gentle wasp
ohhh
velvet snow
i hate myself
@lyric oriole i have the replay
@lyric oriole there is a developer on this server (preferably French)
tulip sail
Why do you hate the t28htc you might not be able to refund it but I can give tips on how to play it
viral lodge
May as well make the best of any purchase.
I bought the Vindi and no regrets lol, a tank doesnt have to be great to have fun.
velvet snow
Yes i want xd
yeah that's right
I want @tulip sail
anyway they will not reimburse me

tulip sail
It's mostly a second liner however if you pay attention to your two biggest weaknesses and are constantly wiggling you can get away with being further up as your weak spots are the two mgs on your sides while your lower plate isnt the best it's still fairly strong against lower tier enemies just dont rely on it
velvet snow
Ok
tulip sail
Its pretty accurate and ok at being aggressive
tulip sail
If you've got any questions feel free to pm me or ping me
No it's been a while and unfortunately I dont have a way of exporting them since I play on mobile
velvet snow
Mmh ok np thanks bro
tulip sail
Np hopefully you'll at least enjoy playing the tank
velvet snow
really, thank you
solid gate
I just found my iPhone 10S Max has screen recoding built in. So I might could show peeps some battles.
nova sigil
Derping lights are so fun 😄😄
tulip sail
Nice one
velvet snow
Thx u bro :)))
tulip sail
Np always here to help
velvet snow
:)
solid gate
I should try mine out again.
tulip sail
It's a very good tank once you get it down
solid gate
Yeah. I think last time I drove it I had trouble with the machine gun bulbs. Oh and speaking of HTC I spent most of a battle killing one while driving Chi-To. My team was simultaneously obliterating the rest of the enemy team.
solid gate
Hey i just got my t49 fully upgraded and i need tips on how to play it
hard nexus
use the derp or dont play it
next solstice
U have no armor, but you have a shotgun for a gun. Use it to piss people off and have fun
compact sierra
Hum... KV-1 or T-34? Who i choose?
viral lodge
@compact sierra med or heavy, they all end up with decent/great tanks at the end.
If you want comp tier 10 go for the IS-4 but the line isn’t very friendly, IS-7 line is easier but less rewarding, for the T-34 lines the Ltwt side is speed and fun, the med side is average and med, light is best, Obj 140 is decent the T62A is a great med.
compact sierra
Wow.
I see.
I think i will stay with the light - medium ones.
viral lodge
The heavies have taken over the comp rn but in pubs meds can still play fine
fast compass
What should I get first, the gun or the tracks on the ltwt?
hardy sparrow
@fast compass gun,you will need that penetration
hardy sparrow
@fast compass well would you rather have better gun stats or more flexibility?
fast compass
Idk. I will probably grind it in the game mode, so probably the gun is better for now
hardy sparrow
Nice
calm inlet
@fast compass gun
drifting token
I will write shortly first, my english is a little bad
I will damage and relax and which one ru251 or Indien pz
hollow belfry
@drifting token Ru all the way. Speed, 102mm HE pen, low profile and good dpm. Indien is worse
drifting token
Thanks @hollow belfry
hollow belfry
Np 🙂
dire linden
In the past i had a few premium tanks that now i have sold. Can i restore them?or Do i need to buy them again?
raven ravine
uh
premiums u rebuy but collectors u restore for the same amout of gold they were sold for i think
sacred cargo
@dire linden u can restore premium tanks with a ticket in wargaming.net using credits
solid gate
T-54 Ltwt is nice but not that easy to play. I think it needs a bit of skill despite the “good” armor.
glass relic
Welp only the turret making it a good hulldown lt but still gotta watch out for those incomings fire to your cupolas
signal oak
I think Fv4202 really needs a buff
strange thicket
@dire linden send tickets to restore specific premium or collector tanks
mystic sleet
@dark gate How's about NO
We honestly don't need an Obj. 263 that is just renamed into Obj. 268 V4.
It would literally be the same like the ATGMs fro 6.8 update
plus, it would make veichles like the Grille or Jgpz E100 useless
Maps too small, plus ask Wg
No it won't
We already have the K91 as a premium
Besides
Why are you called Churchill if you play as the USSR and Japan?
high lintel
LTTB or T-43 is better? (I search for a good damage, medium armor and fast tank)
Pls answer for that
broken sentinel
@high lintel the LTTB has practically the same armor as the T-43 but it goes 68kph. The only downside is the DPM, but you have literally everything else.
I do recommend playing through the T-43 line anyways since you'll be able to get some modules on the T-54 through the T-44, which will make the T-54 line less painful.
high lintel
@broken sentinel thx the answer
gentle wasp
@high lintel agree with this guy as well, although the LTTB might be more fun, the t43 has a better gun and teaches better skills for the rest of the line.
solid gate
LTTB is nice tank though only semi real. Supposedly only the hull had been drawn up. They never got a design for a turret irl. So Wargaming just made a longer T-43 type turret and gave it a bigger gun than what the real Light Tank with Heavy Armor would have had.
indigo cloud
I'm not satisfied with a t2 tank, does anybody have any advice on which tank to save for next?
viral lodge
tier 1-4 tanks dont really matter, just a stepping stone, tier 6-10 is what matters largely on a line.
solid gate
Hey! Don’t discount tier V!
indigo cloud
Ok, thx
compact sierra
Who have this one?
lyric oriole
A decent number of players it's only about a year and a half old, requirements were low to obtain it
compact sierra
Yeah. Win 100 battles. Lol.
neon comet
Win 50 battles actually, if I recall correctly
edgy thunder
I like using German tanks, yet people call me a wehraboo, it may or may not get annoying
solid gate
Why people say getting the scavenger was easy?
winter mauve
idk
solid gate
It was hard and I did not even get it
winter mauve
wait how do u get it?
solid gate
You cannot get it any more
winter mauve
oh
solid gate
So whenever I see a scavenger in battle I want to push them off a cliff
winter mauve
lol
low elk
scavenger was 50 wins and you get it for free
dunno why you would say its hard
compact sierra
...
lyric oriole
Scavenger was a low effort tank. 2 weeks and 50 wins was very easy.
quick thicket
Playing the scavenger with the 250 alpha gun is so fun
low elk
i hated the 250 alpha gun
the armor profile on scavenger was kinda op for that tier
quick thicket
I mean the only reason you’d hate it is probably the pen but other than that the gun is great imo
lyric oriole
The 32 pdr. (Just calling it that for simplicity since it matches the alpha) is the gun that should be used.
It's great for trading, especially in a tier full of 75mm guns
quick thicket
And scavenger is not a common tank so other players( new players especially) don’t expect the scav to hit that hard
solid gate
The 250 alpha gun? You mean the short barrel gun? Which I see most people suck with. The pen on it is crap. Heck even the smaller gun has meh pen.
quick thicket
I have only ever played the scav with the 250 alpha gun and I’m playing it at 72% so I’m fine with it but I understand it is difficult to pen a m6 or something along those lines sometimes
hoary verge
Any chance of the Hetze Kame being sold in store again so I can finish off that collection? I know I will never get the tier 3 Otsu again but it would be nice to have most Japanese tanks
solid gate
Sadly when Otsu was sold I was Free to Play so couldn’t get it.
main lava
feels bad man I luckily got all 3 tanks but Its just sitting in my garage. life's tough
vague palm
Should I grind for Maus or obj 268? (This is probably an easy question)
hard nexus
both
hoary verge
Both are great tanks, what's your username? I'll look up your account and see if I can give advice @vague palm
Is it just your username?
vague palm
Ya
hoary verge
Okay 2 mins
hoary verge
Literally can't find you
vague palm
:/
hoary verge
Oh
vague palm
Oh oops, I’m stupid I should’ve looked back. It’s Jdthsazon1234 lmao
vague palm
O
hoary verge
You seem to do well in tanks with more mobility and good guns, so why I suggest that one, I've heard all the Chinese tier 10s are great
vague palm
I’m a beast in the amx 30 1er prot. So I kinda figured already that I’m good in mobility and good guns.
neon comet
@hoary verge the Chinese tier 10 heavy may be decent, and maybe the medium, but the WZ 113 tank Destroyer is not worth much
hoary verge
I see
I see, still, looking at his tanks if he wants one that will be more his play style, maybe the 268, just my suggestion and good luck to him
broken parcel
The chinese tier ten medium i hear is op rn
viral lodge
It’s not, it’s heavy meta, WZ-113 is doing good tho
hard nexus
wz121 is really strong
strange thicket
@neon comet the chinese medium is one the best
viral lodge
It’s good, but with how heavies are rn the meds aren’t shining as much.
hard nexus
eh in tourneys maybe not as much
but for randoms nothing has changed much, smart mts are still going to farm dmg
viral lodge
True, really anything is viable in pubs, I saw a 183 do 5k earlier.
lyric oriole
The only non-viable pub tank is Grille 15 imo
viral lodge
Grille is an odd tank, they either murder everyone or get focus fired and 🔥
rapid orchid
fair vessel
Grille is a prime target for HE
glacial valley
Do we have other tanks with rockets other than the Sheridan?
plucky summit
T92E1, the tank before Sheridan @glacial valley
Other than that there was a test event with T49 A
plucky summit
Np
thick trout
@lyric oriole The grille is amazing in random games if you use it how it shouldn't be used. It should be a pure sniper but if you are more agressive after your first shot or two and keep pushing and farming off your team then it works amazingly as long as you are very aware of where the reds are looking and whether they have reloaded.
calm inlet
its actually pretty terrible, this meta and the map pool is extremely harsh to it
thick trout
The only map I can't stand to play it on is dynastys pearl and hellas (which I hate in every tank), and I find it does well countering the heavies who are too stupid to see themselves getting flanked and react in time or think you can't hit their weakspots.
cinder briar
i feel like the hardest tank to drive tier for tier is the sp 1c
viral lodge
Try FV4005
plucky summit
FV4005 gud tonk
viral lodge
I’m not speaking in good to bad, I’m speaking in hard to play, it’s large, mediocre speed, can turn turret fully, and an auto loader.
plucky summit
can't* but ok
solid gate
Man I hate the WZ-111-1G FT. Nothing but cannon fodder no matter how you use it.
@thick trout Hellas isn’t a great map but I still think New Bay is the worst of all.
Mines is best for low tiers. That hill is just a menace in higher tiers. Gets too many people killed.
simple pollen
I like the Wz-111- 1g ft. Personally, I l love it.
vague steppe
hi guys
could guys help me to grind credits?, I wanna buy the RU 251 but I still got like little credits
drifting bane
n o
solid gate
@vague steppe You get gold ads?
gentle wasp
?
eager barn
ive got all the time in the world but ive got no idea of which tank line to research, ive got all of the russian tier 10s and thats it
gentle wasp
@eager barn well what tank types do you like
eager barn
im an aggressive player, i like playing the obj 263, t62, is4
however im good with the skorpion g too
eager barn
@gentle wasp FV4005, FV4202 and the new japanese td line
gentle wasp
@eager barn hm japanese tds or 4005
depends on ur playstyle then they are both pretty good i think
eager barn
im gonna go with the ho ri then, reviews says that its a challenge but im up for it
@gentle wasp thank you 🙂
kind bluff
Ho Ri at least prevents you from worrying about penning things for the most part @eager barn
eager barn
very true, i heard its got the best penetration values in the entire game
@kind bluff
crystal hare
JPanther II or Ferdinand
kind bluff
JP II
hollow belfry
It can frontline if you know how to position ( i did here on the hill) great mobility and dpm
hollow moth
@crystal hare Ferdinand is much more the playstyle of Jagdpanzer E100
crystal hare
Ok
hollow moth
if you don't like the slowness of Ferdinand or some armor problems on it, you probably won't like jagdpanzer E100
solid gate
Well unlike JagdPanzer E 100 the Ferdinand has flat armor. That’s the problem.
crystal hare
As long as it’s faster than stock kv2 I’m good
hollow moth
but both tanks have the same strategy to use a good part of the armor@solid gate
run and angle at the same time
solid gate
Well Ferdinand and JP II aren’t very good imho. But Ferdinand is slightly less as bad.
crystal hare
Ok I assume that the jagtiger is a more beefy ferdi
hollow moth
JP2 can be better than Ferdinand in some aspects, but if you don't like ferdinand because of the speed or big weak spots so you are on the wrong line
solid gate
If I had my way I’d do the true thing which is JagdPanther/Panzerjäger mit 12.8cm as the other tier 8. Probably wouldn’t be faster than the JagdPanther. Maybe even slightly slower.
JT is getting buffed soon.
solid gate
Tiger II got buffed as did VK 36 and Tiger I.
hollow moth
panther 2 will get armor buffs too
crystal hare
No i mean the hp buffs.
solid gate
Doesn’t look like in 6.10 from what the preview shows. If not then hopefully 7.0 update it will.
hollow moth
side scrapping and don't show the turret so much, it's a weak point@crystal hare
solid gate
@crystal hare ARL is already good without the HP buff. KV-4 could use a slight armor buff (at least on the top of the second turret) more than anything.
Churchill VII getting HP buff will be good. The thing is so slow.
crystal hare
I know that the ARL is good but the extra hp adds on to the fun on the grind
Churchill is a chore
FV215b or FV4202
solid gate
I don’t think think 6.10 will be that far off and why wait on that one?
M4 45 getting HP buff too I think but I think it could use some armor buff too. Especially on the turret.
hollow moth
talking about HP buffs on heavies, I think a HP buff on grosstraktor would make it really look like a heavy, because it actually have a worse armor than tier 1
solid gate
4202 takes skill.
hollow moth
even in WOT it's a medium tank, not a heavy
solid gate
@hollow moth I bet A1E1 would too. Basically the British version of Grosstraktor.
I think irl it was a heavy though. But it was probably interwar thing. I may have to look on that though.
solid gate
I liked the M4 45 back when I ground to unlock 50 100 but that was updates ago. I think the thing hasn’t aged well since.
solid gate
It’s too slow to be a medium top speed wise though.
Tiger I is a heavium but M4 45 isn’t quite there. 35kph top speed isn’t fast enough. Same speed as stuff like T29. But you don’t have the armor and have a smaller gun than other heavies.
crystal hare
So it’s not great
solid gate
ARL is but M4 45 isn’t.
oblique saddle
What do you think of the IS-3?
lyric oriole
It's mediocre, good gun, good mobility, the turret is the best in it's class but the hull is super weak, and the modules don't have much health.
It's not quite as much a heavy as it is a good medium Support
tight pewter
POI
open solstice
What do you think of WZ-113?
solid gate
I haven’t even gotten WZ-110 so no comment here.
lyric oriole
113 isn't doing so hot with the current heavy meta.
Before hand it it was a good at locking down heavy positions early on and it still is able to do that, but every other heavy has enough health to push it out of the 113s position.
open solstice
Its real fun to use though,just using that high dpm to scare mediums away😂
thorny mulch
Play it like a med when up tiered. When downtiered, you may play it as a heavy but I suggest you try to not engage more powerful/true heavies like the St-1 and E-75 from the front.
worn swift
Has anyone bought the T28 HTC? I wish I had the gold for it lol.
If only WG sold it in July, I would have enough.
Also, out of the T-34-85, T-44 and IS-3, which one/ones do you think are the best tier for tier?
solid gate
Is-3? The IS-3 was pretty decent
solid gate
Is more worth IS-6 or Löwe?
solid gate
To which tank is Lowes playstale similiar?
calm inlet
a slower Tiger II with less frontal armor but a better gun
solid gate
Thank you
worn swift
I would say IS-6 if you're kinda noobish, Löwe if you're skilled.
dapper panther
IS-6 is no longer competitive, IMO
open solstice
IS-5 probably better by now
onyx orbit
@solid gate you can handle IS-8 like how you use IS-3, but IS-8 top gun is similar w/ ST-I and IS-4
south magnet
I wonder wy Wargaming deleted the better tier III - IV tanks ? Like the Amx 40, luchs, pz 2 g, su-76, D.W.2, T-40 etc...
worn swift
A lot/all of these exist as collectors.
Wargaming did it so that for the larger tech trees, they would have one line that branches into two at tier 4 and the rest at tier 5.
Unlike PC and the pre-Update 5.5 trees which had lines branching out at tier 2.
I personally own the T18 and M2 Medium. Still great seal clubbers IMO.
I also still own the Light VIC and Pz. S35.
south magnet
It’s because I sell my tanks when I can research the next one, so I can’t play those anymore...
fleet berryBOT
Sir Winston Churchill#7380 was kicked
hollow belfry
@high lintel wdym?
magic ledge
Tips for stock Conway please
solid gate
@magic ledge Some YouTubers say the stock gun is better than the top gun on that tank.
hollow belfry
@high lintel a T5 tank and a T7 tank, even more from 2 different tech trees are in no way comparable. You claim here that the T-34 has better alpha. But judging a tank on it’s alpha only is a bit stupid in my opinion. The Panther gets high penetration, higher dpm, better accuracy and way better armor than the T-34. But again, there is a 2 tiers gap between those 2 so it’s stupid to say the T-34 is better because it has a higher alpha (note that the FV215b183 wich has the best alpha in the game is also the worst performing and arguably the worst T10 tank). I’d take a Panther over a T-34 any day tbh
worn swift
The FV215b 183 is a strictly for the lols and uniqueness tank.
And 57mm is better on the T-34 anyways.
It’s because I sell my tanks when I can research the next one, so I can’t play those anymore...
@south magnet There's a Vehicle Recovery Ticket option with WG customer support, you can buy your collector tanks back with gold.
Not sure if it works if you sold them before they became collector, but worth a try nonetheless.
Speaking of collectors, was anyone able to keep the old Tier 1's or were they just deleted completely?
solid gate
@dark gate na
high lintel
@hollow belfry thx your answer, but Im not have to compare these Tanks, because Im understand the different tech trees (german and soviet) but Im not understand the difference of this type of Tanks, because look at the WW2.The german Tanks are so greater than the soviet's, but in the game, the soviets are so greater than the germans(honorable exceptions).
Why?
hollow belfry
Actually since last august we had a row of buffs, amongst wich several to german tanks. Even if I researched their successors, I kept the Tiger II, Panther, Jagdpanther and many other of those beasts simply because they are good; fun and efficient.
high lintel
@hollow belfry thx your answer 😀 👍
hollow belfry
Next update the Panther mit 8,8cm L/71, Panther II and Jagdtiger are getting noticeable armor buffs, and the Panzer IV Ausf. G several buffs listed here
jolly idol
is wg going to buff or nerf any vehicles anytime soon?
hollow belfry
Check blitzhangar.com
broken turtle
Next update the Panther mit 8,8cm L/71, Panther II and Jagdtiger are getting noticeable armor buffs, and the Panzer IV Ausf. G several buffs listed here
@hollow belfry
maybe wg want to balance the number of players between the leopard and the pz4g. Leo already get nerfed and soon pz4g would get buffed
hollow belfry
@pliant nexus 1) This is an international server, using english is mandatory 2) watch your language
sage sparrow
Should I go for Soviet mediums or light tanks
hollow belfry
I’d say lights even though you can get a few modules for the T-54 from the med line, if I’m not wrong
Wich would make your T-54 grind easier
sage sparrow
Yea but more people say that t54 ltwt is better than t44 because t44 is powercreeped
So I'll go with the light tanks
lyric oriole
I would recommend T-44 actually because while T-54 LtWt has an engine that carries over to T-54, T-44 has a gun that carries over to T-54 and you'll want that gun more
next solstice
Wow. Compared to the T-34-1, the T-34-2 is just such a major letdown
I’m not looking forward to that WZ-120 grind either
lyric oriole
121 is worth it, try to hang in there
open solstice
121 2nd best medium in the game i guess?
solid gate
WZ-120 is a brutal grind. Costs over 200k exp(?) Just to get all the modules.
open solstice
Decreased to 175k right?
calm inlet
@next solstice T-34-2 is excellent, you need to run the 122mm gun
eager barn
@open solstice youy ay the 121 is the best me
wow ignore that but you say the 121 is the 2nd best medium, what would you, in your own opinion, say is the best medium?
open solstice
I have,at the moment,no mediums reseached till tier 10.Just tier 9.So I don't really know much about them.The stats on 121 just seem too good for a medium though
modern solstice
I really want to go up the chinese meds but the modules seem to not carry
heavy gun, light tank aimtime and medium hull...it just sounds so good
should i do is-4 before 121 line?
since kv4 is being buffed to 1850 hp and st1 to 2200 hp
nah but I have the free xp
drifting bane
where the super conquerer at
tulip sail
Testing
worn swift
Damn. If they add the Super Conqueror, I am going to really regret not going down that line.
But if they also add the Centurion AX, it's fine.
Also, opinions on Hellcat vs Jackson?
solid gate
Can someone give me tip on how ur Foch destroyer
How to use
@modern solstice nice avatar
strange ibex
i prefer mine xD
lethal linden
I was wondering if the tier 10 AMX light autoloader is worth getting? It looks fun and good but I wasn't for sure
worn swift
I don't have it, way too new to the game, but according to what I've heard, it's pretty meh on its own, but it's helpful in tournaments and competitions since it's the only light tank line that goes to tier X other than the utterly stupid Sheridan line.
Actually good for scouting, unlike the T95E1 and Sheridan.
merry crow
type 58
brittle jay
wargaming been buffing alot of tanks, and with new tanks like japanese TD's and amercian ATGM's i think they should give the grill its speed back.
maybe improve the camo aswell
next solstice
The front plate on the Batchat is well angled. Aside from that, the Batchat has an abnormally high skill ceiling. And there's just other tanks that are easier to play in comparision
But hey, if you're one of those "git gud" players, the BC might be for you.
minor mica
Hey the Sheridan is pretty good right ?
solid gate
How do I get the type 62
worn swift
Does anyone else think that WG should release a bundle of all the old tier 1's for a few dollars or 2000-ish gold? Because I'd buy that lol.
solid gate
No
hushed shadow
@worn swift Going to regret going down what line? The Super Conqueror is going to be a Collector tank, sold for gold or money, maybe in Crates.
hushed shadow
Nope. They for some reason want to make it a collector. Would’ve made more sense on the tech tree with the other tanks being mid turreted as wel
The Badger isn’t a tech tree tank either
worn swift
That's unfortunate, would have made perfect sense as a replacement tier X since the FV215b heavy isn't great atm.
worn swift
I just realised that the Chi-Nu Kai is literally just a Chi-Nu with slightly better RoF, slightly worse mobility and less gun depression. There is literally no reason to get the Kai except for the credit coefficient. Having it in crates is just ridiculous.
dapper panther
it's a meme by now
soft marsh
Please take out the BT-7 artillery again. It is too too much.
Or take out the artillery.
As in WoT
Plz
broken turtle
wat? what u mean @soft marsh ?
solid gate
@worn swift i got it in the 6 crates for 109nok (around 8£i guess)
lethal snow
i want Dracula unnerfed its no longer fun as it used to be
pls i want to Eurobeat again
steady stream
You can buff ST-I please
lone comet
Don't you think this looks awful with the green stock colour underneath?
like an unfinished paint job
violet yarrow
looks as if multiple shells bounced off the turret and scraped the paint, its ugly but the detail is great
hushed shadow
If they make camo brighter or less ‘faded’ it would make it harder to see the weakspots in sniper mode. I guess the scraped parts or those bits without camo are to make it look more old like it’s been scratched off over time
soft marsh
@broken turtle
I mean you should be able to buy BT-7 artillery. And that you have to put artillery in a WoT blitz. There are some in WoT but I don't know why they don't put them. I think they should.
broken turtle
many people complain that artilleries are unfair in wot, and due small map and...... idk but just td is okey
@soft marsh
soft marsh
That is true. But I was thinking more in tier X and IX because there are bigger maps.
golden birch
They aren’t bigger maps and maps aren’t big enough for arty
open solstice
Which is better T-54 or WZ-120?
visual jolt
@open solstice
open solstice
then which gun is better on T-54.the D54 or D10T?
open solstice
Is the tank worth keeping even after researching T-62A?
The problem I face in the game is deciding which tanks I should keep because most of the time these tanks get nerfed
visual jolt
@open solstice Yes. It has a very good turret and frontal armor for tier 9, it’s also fairly mobile
open solstice
Thanks for the help!
visual jolt
No problem
hollow belfry
Plus you can still grind the obj 140 in it 🤷♂️
@flat pilot the T34 has no armor behind the gun mantlet, wich means the shell will pen easier than, as an example, a tank that still has armor behind the gun mantlet
flat pilot
wg should do something about this
subtle mason
There is a limited offer bundle with Chrysler K, I wonder is it worth it, or better to wait for some better deals?
hollow moth
Half track D1cker max
fair vessel
So here’s some things I found with the Prog 46. It’s not a brawling tank like your average medium, because it has virtually no armor. It’s more of a ranged to midline fighter. You can’t really expect to bounce any shots unless your damn well lucky. Your gun, while good, has irritatingly low pen. Don’t expect to be piercing a Tiger’s lower plate unless you have Gold to shoot
Sticking to the edges of the map, avoiding any and all heavies and TD’s and providing fire support is your best bet. If sighted by any of the Latter, Just hug whatever cover you can until either your team comes to bust you out, or you see a gap to run away through so you can shoot from afar
But otherwise don’t expect to survive a brawl. And unfortunately since it’s on the shop currently and has a good reputation. Your gonna be the center of everyone’s attention because of that fact, at least from what I find
crystal hare
Gun or turret next on bulldog?
eternal canyon
solid gate
.mute @slender perch 1d
calm drumBOT
jagged linden
I have IS3. Which element should I research first ? IX cannon or the turret ?
low elk
turret
then the gun
better turret gives better DPM and a lot of other things
jagged linden
I think turret gives better armor... But thanks for the help !
glass otter
refined gun or V stabs on the M48?
solid gate
Refined gun
glass otter
thanks
vernal pasture
devout python
I've been grinding with a Matilda for a while, and I finally have enough points to get a better tank. is the tier V Churchill worth getting?
lyric oriole
It's not great, the gun is excellent however the mobility, armor, and everything else is pretty mediocre, the rest of the line up is ok, but be warned the armor kinda goes away at the tier 8
solid gate
I'm going to grind the paper armour german td line after i'm done with the is-8. Is that line decent?
signal slate
high ivy
F
cinder briar
15 minute cooldown be careful
wintry hamlet
Next they delete their server 😂
hushed shadow
Why is everyone surprised
random tartan
I would be a fan of this server being deleted. It's poorly maintained, disorganized and ruled with an iron fist by mods using arbitrary rules.
tribal bough
this VK 168.01 P is a good tank
valid dagger
yeah but the 100.01 ugh...
sharp cape
@pulsar sinew how does that effect anything, it’s 90 ppl sitting in a vc
pulsar sinew
@sharp cape dm
crimson swallow
What a name
valid dagger
Wargaming should respond by giving every tank missiles next update 😂. 183 with missile would be great! next update every tank get missile would be great!
main cipher
@pulsar sinew wg ruin game by adding atgms in game, now ppl say their opinion about this caz Rolling mean many to us
pulsar sinew
Did I say I liked them?
Or want rolling gone?
Rolling is the best thing about comp
Missiles ruin blitz
But don’t trash the server for that
It won’t change anything
bleak meteor
what is atgm?
signal steppe
i think twister will die without rolling
no one watching streams = no tours
wotb eSports are already half dead, losing the most relevant streamer is not a good thing
lime knot
It will make a change. You still think atgm is the real problem here?
heavy rose
@bleak meteor it's thé vehicule t92 and sheridan who can fire rockets
random tartan
Can you imagine twister without Rolling/Sk8/Bushka? No offence but Rolling completely carried last year, I can't for the life of me remember anything the other commentators said. Rolling was all around more insightful and engaging
valid dagger
I liked rolling and bushka a lot... 😦
quasi drift
Maybe #BringSk8Back? Hmmm
worn swift
Opinions on the T57 Heavy line?
calm inlet
T57 is actually pretty decent
i recommend doing the T49 line though as you’ll have the option of getting the ATGM tanks and the T57
scenic garden
FU mods or server owners. Deleting msgs?
Why?.because I mentioned protected players and clans?
F U
solid gate
i recommend doing the T49 line though as you’ll have the option of getting the ATGM tanks and the T57
@calm inlet ah yes, the ones u refuse to nerf lol
calm inlet
i don’t work for WG
i have 0 influence in terms of balance, i want the ATGM’s removed as well
modest barn
@solid gate people who work for WG have red names
solid gate
Let us purchase spaced armor before the game if you wanna keep atgms, as it’s how tanks encouter atgms irl
silk flume
help why the slowmode
shrewd ravine
Lol
I'm looking to get T32 is it ok?
solid gate
Not bad Hull down
primal ermine
It was a joke bruh @shrewd ravine
frozen patrol
@shrewd ravine it is fantastic hulldown but it has the worst gun on any tier8 heavy
edgy geyser
I loved the t32 xd
leaden cobalt
.
placid crown
Amx 30b needs less dispersion, it's already a mediocre meduim, a buff to the gun would allow it to peek a boom much better, the coupula combined with the large dispersion makes it a difficult tank to use effectively
solid gate
Probably why the 1er Prototype is better tier for tier. Though both have low dpm right?
golden birch
Proto is better tier for tier Bc it doesn’t have a giant tumor on its turret
solid gate
True. It’s got a smaller but equally funky looking cupola/hatch area.
low elk
well i think this is actually not a bad mod
hollow moth
Thx, I hated
Chrysler K is the perfect sidescraping tank at tier 8, try to angle it every time that you can @wintry badger
wintry badger
Hey guys, I just bought the Chrysler K and wanted to know what you think
calm inlet
you couldn't have asked us what we thought before buying it?
but its alright. turret is very thick and the frontal and side armor is very thick. it'll be necessary to sidescrape a lot but be careful as you only get -6 degrees of gun depression over the front and -10 over the sides
its got a lot of mobility for its armor but the gun is where it falls flat. meh alpha, bad pen, mediocre accuracy along with poor DPM. its a workable gun but its one of the poorer ones on a Tier 8 heavy and a Tier 8 in general
hollow moth
Also it'll have tier 10 HP in 6.10
plucky rain
bet there's 15 min slowmode here
Edit: I knew it
wintry badger
Idk it was an interesting tank that I probably would have bought regardless
kind bluff
Wait what all slow modes extended? LOL
solid gate
I saw a guy in battle today said the Chrysler K was a bad tank unless in the hands of a nub. What was he smoking? Nubs will make even that tank look like crap. No, you still have to have a tiny bit of skill. Not be a pro but have a bit of experience and skill.
@solid gate the good stuff
@wintry badger Imho the Chrysler K is a better tank to put that T29 gun on than the T32.
Who the heck extended the slow mode on Vehicle Discussion to like 15 minutes instead of 15 seconds!? Seriously!? I get it on like the update discussion sections and maybe a few others but this channel, Blitz Discussion, and General Discussion shouldn’t have that long a wait time.
valid dagger
@solid gateits because of all the spamming that happened earlier. I had a good laugh from it. So many people, they all went to russian server too and spammed about rolling swarm and also removing missiles. got banned from russian server immediately lol, I went on there to see what was happening and all I saw was a giant list of people who got banned. it was crazy hence the 15min timer on all channels so spam doesn't get out of control
solid gate
Wow. Way to ruin things peeps. Grrr! Well I’m not going to be on this Discord server for a while.
But let me guess; it had something to do with Rolling Swarm? At least at first if not the whole time right?
plucky rock
Picking this up tomorrow
lofty gust
Can u buy me one too @plucky rock
hollow moth
Yes @solid gate
valid dagger
they want him back to be the commentator for twister cup.
solid gate
@plucky rock I’mma go for a SUV with a more unique color if I can ever save for one. Really need to instead of just talking about it. Well unique to around here. Too many white and silver vehicles. Are you renting or buying? In full or via payments if buying?
valid dagger
stop wasting money on games lol @solid gate ;)
solid gate
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
plucky rock
I’m buying 🙂
tulip sail
Have fun with insurance
stone minnow
Why is the Badger not tech tree?
solid gate
War Gaming likes money
solid gate
I thoght that was luke skywalkers job
shrewd ravine
...
stone minnow
@solid gate I’m not for removing the death star, but rather making it an alternative to the 4005 from the Conway. I think we should have the super conqueror too, but rather than getting rid of the 215b we just have a Rear Turreted Cearnavon and Conqueror preceding it.
solid gate
Everything you just said was wrong
willow hedge
lmfao dew it
stone minnow
But why is it wrong though? It keeps all the tanks, adds two new ones, and does so it a way that makes sense for the players grinding up to them. The Conway driver gets a chance to try out the fast firing autoloader that is more similar to the challenger, or the Death Star which is more similar to itself. The Super Conqueror is added and allows people who are used to the front/mid turreted british heavies to not relearn how to play the line. New rear turreted british heavies will teach people how drive the rear Turreted FV215b. This leaves the Badger which belongs in the 183’s spot because its actually like the Tortoise that preceded it. Maybe it just me but I don’t see how this isn’t a goo idea... what are your thoughts?
desert citrus
Crybabies who complains about ATGMs are just sad.. you give the average 40%er ATGMs and they wouldn't know how to play it. Because to play ATGMs effectively requires great observation skill. You crybabies moan about ATGMs being OP, just because some unicums know how to use it. I've been in may battles against Sheridans whose the players driving it are the average 40%ers and they don't know what they are doing.. e.g shooting missile too high, too low, and often hits building or some obstacles. But in the hands of a unicum, ATGMs is OP just like any tanks they play. Remember when people keep complaining about the 183s. 183s was the tanks everyone focus on when they see them in battle, but now it's T92E1 and Sheridan who you should be focused on more. When I play ATGMs alongside the 183, people just pick on the 183 and ignore me, not my fault they let me roam free lol
strange thicket
@desert citrus you completely destroyed your point when you just kept insulting and muh enemy stoopid
forest ermine
the tanks are OP in themselves, and they can't be balanced, because if you do that, with the missiles being fickle things in themselves, the tanks would become unplayable. So the tanks are too fast, have too much troll armour, too much damage per shot, etc.
On top of that, there's the issue of what they mean - they make cover, angling and positioning pretty much useless. You can literally get shot behind perfect cover from a tank that doesn't need to take any risk to shoot you, and doesn't even need to be spotted to shoot at you because they're behind cover themselves. -THAT- is the problem with ATGM's.
worn swift
The main issue with the Sheridan is too much spaced armour. That's why the armour on the T92E1 is getting nerfed in the next update, and a similar nerf should be applied to the Sheridan. People need to be able to kill these tanks KV-2 style to make them balanced.
Edit: Ah, I see. My opinion is that basically, if the new US tanks were like BC 25 t's and AP's with ATGMs in their current state instead of autoloaders, they would be balanced. The armour profile is the most broken thing about them now tbh.
forest ermine
the Sherry isn't nerfed alongside the E1 in this case because WG doesn't nerf/buff tier X tanks during tournament seasons
solid gate
clearly this is such a competitive game that rebalancing the thing that is ruining that scene would fundamentally change the way it's played
no it's not
just nerf it and be showered in praise
sturdy bane
they’re not gonna give the Sheridan 210mm of pen.... are they?
if they are, guess i’m using even more missiles
desert citrus
@sturdy bane yeah, I guess. We would be hiding behind covers all the time just to piss these crybabies off more, hahaha!
Seriously, in WoT thousands of players have been asking for arty removal from the game ever since it was introduced, and WG never remove them, they even buffed some lol. People should just get with it
calm inlet
@sturdy bane only the T92E1 for now
subtle mason
they’re not gonna give the Sheridan 210mm of pen.... are they?
Would be fine. Looks like a reasonable pen for a short 152 gun on a versatile and fast platform that can flank and do the ATGM thing.
plucky junco
Missiles may seem easy to aim but from what I’ve seen the average wotb player can’t hit most shots
glass relic
Tbh in my perspective I'm more satisfied hitting targets with the APCR rather than ATGM
desert citrus
@glass relic same with me, the ATGMs are like last resort
subtle mason
Missiles are hard, that's right. The tanks should be high risk/high reward. High APCR pen defeats the idea of ATGM tanks. Like, they were supposed to be an artillery-light or something like that. But in fact, we have a pen that can pen nearly anything frontal, with a ton of alpha damage on a really versatile, low and fast platform. That's even more cancerous than the T49 in its tier. Moreover, armor of both tanks is very trolly. You don't need to put any effort to play it, just point and shoot, and yolo on high speed. That's why APCR should be nerfed to 200-210 pen, which is absolutely enough to pen from sides/rear.
solid gate
@subtle mason Agree. APCR with high pen on lights is more dangerous than ATGMs, considering their high alpha. Also they can go shooting unpunished and escaping even when facing most heavies frontally. They need a T49-like nerf on APCR, and to prevent missile spam, a rework of the mechanics or the stats of the missiles themselves
solid gate
Is there any reason why the vk30.02d is not trash? I feel more at home in my panther.
subtle mason
No, the tank is the definition of trash. Level up the tree through spic or pantera to save your sanity.
solid gate
oh. isn't the spic trash as well post nerf? I hear that it is slow and gets he trolled.
subtle mason
No, spic is awesome. If you can play it, for sure.
solid gate
I radioed spic in chat and it got asterisked
subtle mason
its sp 1 c
So what? Spic sounds better.
fast compass
Sp1c with an i is a derogatory word, or something along those lines, mods will warn you or mute you if you use it
worn swift
SP I C is obviously 'SP ein C'.
mystic skiff
SpahPanzer 1 C
subtle mason
@subtle mason "spic" is a racial slur. Do not use it here.
@solid gate
So what? It's not used to insult anyone and has another meaning.
solid gate
@subtle mason I don't care. Don't use it here. Clear?
subtle mason
I don't care
A great phrase from a mod. Power abuse is a fun thing, I guess.
solid gate
If you think me telling you to not use racial slurs here is power abuse I'm honestly at a loss for words
I advise you to drop the subject.
subtle mason
How does the german tank naming connect to Spanish Americans?
solid gate
Drop it please
subtle mason
Why so?
sturdy flame
Racial slur? What? Didn't know that
fleet berryBOT
Saegifu#8486 was muted
solid gate
I gave him plenty of chances.
sturdy flame
@solid gate Is it seriously racial slur?
solid gate
Yes
solid gate
T14 I would like to see a little buff.
T14 had a small pen buff but that was it. Probably could use more buffing but I don’t know where to.
lyric oriole
T14 could use a minor hull traverse buff and a penetration buff to 110mm for AP shells, but I do believe that aside from that it's fine.
It's got a lot of HP, good straightline speed, though the gun has mediocre penetration, the armor and reload time are decent.
solid gate
Well Excelsior is getting that 110mm of AP pen next update. T14 may be a bit lower because the prammo pen is a bit lower than the Excelsior’s. Also looks like Excelsior is getting minor armor buff somewhere.
lyric oriole
It's liable to be to the side armor is my guess because Excelsior has fantastic frontal and rear armor
hybrid olive
RemoveAGTMs
kind bluff
It sounds as if you weren’t here yesterday so just stop it
gilded breach
There should be that tank from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade added as a collectible tank
desert citrus
That's the most stupid suggestions I've ever read smh
noble wren
Nobody supports your opinion, so I’m not sorry to say, but you are stupid. (To #buffatgms)
You must have a seriously severe mental state if you think atgms are balanced. (Read my edit)
desert citrus
No skill? You can check my blitzstat profile ign: wan_na_be_a_sniper
Or plat me in game I will teach you how to counter atgms🙃
noble wren
Ah yes, the “pro’s” asking for changes since their bored, I’d say just play another game for the meantime, I’ve seen somebody who asked for leo 1 buffs.
Nah Ive already got 60mm of spaced armor to counter the stupidity of atgm players trying to pen it with H E A T ATGM’s, anyways, time to sleep, enjoy your boredom, 1.4k battles? Pathetic, weaker than a asia player, hoping to see your tank burning to ashes one day.
desert citrus
@echo drift you say that but do you want to 1v1? Since you sound like a pro
normal wyvern
Pm each other for the love of god
crystal hare
Is the firefly the worst tier 6 medium? From what I heard it’s bad
visual jolt
@crystal hare there are some really bad mediums at tier 6 like the vk 30.01 d, but it is definitely one of the worst
crystal hare
The 30.01D is surprisingly good for me
visual jolt
@crystal hare so the Firefly has a better gun but worse mobility and armor
crystal hare
Would the GuP Firelfly be the same roughly
visual jolt
@crystal hare it would be extremely similar
crystal hare
Ok so I should pass on buying it and Focus on the IS-2 GuP
The Chi-To is also horrendous
visual jolt
@crystal hare the Chi-To and Firefly are kind of similar
solid gate
Yes, trash
visual jolt
crystal hare
Should I go for British mediums or stay on the heavy (FV215b) line
visual jolt
@crystal hare Right now the Fv4202 and the Fv215b are pretty underwhelming
crystal hare
So I should stall that line for now
visual jolt
While I can’t tell you how good/bad it is, the Vickers line is coming sooner than later and that line will likely branch off the Comet
trail garnet
Question is the k91 Russian auto loader still available for purchase ?
visual jolt
@trail garnet not currently
trail garnet
Dang I just saw it and it literally just disappeared
visual jolt
@trail garnet like in the store?
trail garnet
Yeah
visual jolt
@trail garnet It’s possible WG just accidentally released it early. If that’s the case, you could probably expect to see it there soon
trail garnet
Sweet thanks
crystal hare
Any advice on my lines I’m researching as follows
IS-4
Obj. 268
T-62A
E 50 M
Jgpz. E100
VK 72.01 K
T110E4
Sheridan
Ho-Ri type III
Progetto 65
WZ-121
FV215b
AMX 50B
solid gate
@lyric oriole That’s what I asked them to do actually for the Excelsior. Not just from a historical perspective but from a balancing perspective. That side armor should not be that weak. Side skirts they got right but the side armor on the main part is wrong.
Also I wouldn’t mind the front getting buffed a little too. It’s flat so yeah.
visual jolt
@crystal hare the first 3 are all very good tanks. I would hold off on the vk 72 and e4, the are currently the weakest at tier x
crystal hare
How would you play the 50B
solid gate
@gilded breach To me that looks like a British WW 1 tank that the Germans in that movie modified by slapping a turret on top. At least I think it has a turret on top.
visual jolt
@crystal hare watch this guide done by @wise moth. It’s old but it still describes really well how to play the 50b
crystal hare
Ok
visual jolt
solid gate
If Emil III (Kranvagn) were added like it is in PC then 50 B will become obsolete.
So I’ve been told anyway. Also American lights could go up to like 3 tier 10s from what I can tell.
lyric oriole
@solid gate historically it might not be that way but it's just supposed to be a unique gimmick to the tank over say T14
Having high top speed, and Almost identical frontal armor to rear armor. In the event you go past someone the armor on the rear of the hull will hold
The Balancing factor comes in at having weak sides
solid gate
@lyric oriole What is?
Yeah, looking at what TE says the rear of the Excelsior should not have that 108mm thick section. The front armor is historically accurate but I find the 114mm of armor useless because it’s flat and (nearly) everything it goes against has say 125+ mm of pen. I guess you can hull down and/or angle it slightly but that doesn’t do much.
Not really. Because who is going to shoot the rear when you can pen even the front of an Excelsior rather easily?
slender fern
When will the GuP tanks release
tulip sail
"Very soon"
hybrid olive
remove ATGMs
open solstice
Which is better WZ-113 or IS-7 and why?
hollow belfry
WZ 113 for mobility, dpm, better accuracy aswell
open solstice
I like it too but it's repair cost is 86% higher than IS-7
hollow belfry
You don’t play T10 to get credits anyways
past crater
fv215b is strong
viral lodge
The only tanks you take repair cost into comparison is credit grinding T8 tanks really.
open solstice
I mean I'm broke in the game and also want to enjoy the crazy dpm of WZ-113 but i have to play IS-7 to get similar gameplay since i haven't researched other heavies yet
calm inlet
dont spam hashtags
fleet berryBOT
SN0W_T1GER_BE4ST#6552 was muted
south vale
#addprimovictoria
New Hashtag ^^^
deft spade
#addprimovictoria
glass otter
Yeah that would replace the cent 1 if they brought it into the game but the action X already replaced the carnaveon so why not lol
south vale
I started a # and I’m proud
mental comet
Enyone know how much gold will cost IS-2 Pravda? thanks
tulip sail
All we know is in #coming-soon
glass otter
i want a M56 skorpion though
south vale
No
tulip sail
I do but also dont bc that would be terrifying
(To play)
glass otter
yuh and nuh
mental comet
I can't find how much Is will cost...
glass otter
Cause nobody knows smh
tulip sail
They haven't released that yet
glass otter
What should i research on the LTTb first?
visual jolt
Now that is something I’m on board with
mental comet
Gun light tank without gun is nothing
solid gate
Is the girls und panzer skins or are they other tanks to buy
south vale
Tanks to buy @solid gate
solid gate
;-;
south vale
Or maybe an event, wjo knows
Or maybe...
No...
cRaTeS...
OH GOD PLEASE NO
solid gate
I do like the anime and I really want it because I got the Tiger and the Tiger (p) but I never saw it as a skin and I'm like welp what now and then I learned it was a whole other tank. Does it cost gold to buy it?
south vale
We’ll have to find out when they get released. I’m thinking that right now they’ll be a bundle, or maybe an event
solid gate
Ok ;-;
glass otter
There isnt a price yet my gosh
tulip sail
All I know is I'm going to try for the sherman
glass otter
I wish it wasnt the firefly though
im intrested in the soviet one though, need that slav cross for 50% more russian bias
tulip sail
I'm fine with it because I actually kinda like the fire
Lol I doubt I'll even try for the is2
glass otter
If it is an event ill probably go for the IS2 cause firefly shermans are kinda wack tbh
tulip sail
They are but with that pen and how it actually looks good
glass otter
Seems that the firefly is based on the M4AE2 chasis so mabey it will be decent
tulip sail
Its not
glass otter
Im pretty sure it is cause the FL10 has basically the same chasis model, could be wrong though
south vale
No, the firefly historically was a completely different tank. The British built them under license. The Sherman V, the T5 collector, for example. And the M4 FL/10 is supposed to be on a M4A1 chassis, the same as the Rev. the FL/10 is on a m4A2 or A3 I believe.
This is under basic knowledge so please don’t judge me too harshly if anything is wrong
tulip sail
That's not an e2 chassis either the fl/10 in game is the early pattern m4a4 you can tell this because it has the 60° ufp in stead of the shallower 47°
glass otter
yeah finally saw it
tulip sail
Lol just noticed a typo of mine
copper agate
I think that tanks that have to guns you should be able to shot both like the b1
tulip sail
@glass otter this will help in identifying Sherman's based on hull
solid gate
Thx
tulip sail
Np
And yes if back checked it with hunnicutt
solid gate
Bruh why does the tiger 1 looks werid
tulip sail
How do you mean?
solid gate
It looks like the turret was a bit shorter and they made it a bit taller but the hull is ok
tulip sail
Nah its about right the tank itself is a bit wonky
solid gate
Oh
To be honest the jagdpanther 2 looks like they push the turret and made it a bit high
tulip sail
I've just never liked the tiger
The jp2 isn't even real so if its exactly how it "was" in a sense
solid gate
Tigers design is a bit wonky kinda ugly
They said there was Blu prints or something
Wargaming lies about a lot of things blueprints related hell the entire line of polish heavies are napkin skribbles
Imagine having land cruiser not the rattle you know like the independent t-35 etc and they actually work
I wonder how would that work?
next solstice
Compared to the T-34-1, this is such a let down
glass otter
@tulip sail Thanks 🙂
tulip sail
Np
worn swift
Does anyone else find it strange that US, USSR and Germany have a ton of tech tree premiums, UK has a few, France has one and Japan, China and Europe have none?
solid gate
Should I redeem T82? Does it still have that 105mm derp or was it nerfed?
lyric oriole
The 105mm is gone and now it has the 75mm Howitzer
solid gate
Nooo
next solstice
ew
hybrid olive
HAHAHAH omg
visual jolt
@hybrid olive all I’m saying is you’re lucky the bot is down
@hybrid olive Profanity is not allowed on this server
hybrid olive
I didnt profanity in my last message
visual jolt
@hybrid olive you said the f word in both messages
Nope, that was definitely profanity.
It doesn’t matter what was around the word, the word was there
@hybrid olive I would argue that you don’t, considering you are trying to argue with a moderator over what profanity is
@hybrid olive English only
No, that was definitely written in Spanish. I translated it but I have a feeling “bitter and bad felon” isn’t what you meant to say
hybrid olive
No It isnt. It was a secret code
visual jolt
Interesting. I’m sure it was a very meaningful message
hybrid olive
The good, if brief, twice good
solid gate
Dame vk168.01 launches you
south drift
solid gate
@tulip sail Yes, the JP II is fake. Wargaming seem to have based it off of a drawing of what is known as the Panzerjäger/JagdPanther mit 12.8cm.
@solid gate I heard those Polish heavies (I don’t know if on here from you or someone else or from elsewhere) are student designs. So as you say probably just basic drawings that probably weren’t even that great.
tulip sail
Most student drawings aren't too bad generally not perfect but they are studying the subject for a reason also the only panzerjager 12.8 I could come up with was the Eturer Emil so I'm unfamiliar with what you mean
solid gate
@tulip sail It may or may not be a drawing by someone who was alive back then or someone from now. But the idea was pitched back then as far as I know. Even Fugit found this supposed fact that they at least though about mounting a rear casemate and 12.8cm on a JagdPanther or basic Panther hull.
And ok I may have had that wrong about how not great student drawings were or are. Still for all intents and purposes the Polish heavies are only real in that respect but they didn’t have the detailed blueprints nor a mock-up or prototype.
There is another image I’ve seen of it that is actually on paper. Most people online call it Panzerjäger Panther mit 12.8cm.
Well I cannot find the paper concept drawing I once saw but this drawing is everywhere. Even on The Daily Bounce. Fugit called it wrong. It is indeed called Panzerjäger Panther mit 12.8cm (L/55 (Pak 80)). That is a long name. Still the JP II is based off of this.
tulip sail
so it seems
solid gate
There is an even more fake German TD than the JP II though that looks similar. The JagdPanther E 50.
I really should research tanks further and work on my own line ideas. Wargaming doesn’t make the best decisions from a gameplay perspective. They are too focused on the business end. Sadly most, if not all, gaming companies are that way. They focus on their business model(s) and all that but forget about satisfying the consumers to the best they can. I mean I guess you say say Blitz players are satisfied to a degree like Fugit said. But also like Fugit suggested we the players could be more satisfied.
junior sparrow
Which tank is the best
tulip sail
Yall are wrong it's the sherman
solid gate
no it's not
junior sparrow
Thx for answering y’all can solve this in WoT blitz
onyx venture
T28 Prototype Gang rise up
tulip sail
Best at being the worst
solid gate
ya t28 is the worst
solemn tundra
Wtm the stock speed is ungodly
worn swift
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jFI6cnedEho
This is making the Chi-To look not that bad.
And looking at BlitzStars Tank Compare, the Chi-To is basically a Cromwell but 19km/h slower. Same gun, better aim time. It even has better hull armour compared to the Cromwell. What are people complaining about? Going up the Japanese med line rn so I would like to know.
solid gate
It’s literal paper still and being slower isn’t something to be proud of
worn swift
Cromwell is literal paper too by that definition :).
Stats-wise, it looks like a Cromwell but for peek-a-booming rather than high-speed flanking. Less speed, better aim time.
Also seems kinda like a Hellcat or a Jackson.
solid gate
Keyword I said still peeking isn’t really gonna do much at T6 with heavy armor like vk 36 rolling around speed is your best friend near the lower tiers
solemn tundra
Also isn’t the chi to a bit big?
lapis glen
Does anyone know which boosted tank gives the most credits? (if you have the full list, better)
calm inlet
http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-65-missing-a-few-new-tanks/ @lapis glen
solid gate
Huh?
worn swift
BlitzStars.com has the data.
solid gate
Some of those posts where old. Crazy.
wise moth
Well, I've been around a while 🤷
tender crest
when will the new anime tanks be for sale?
modern vine
Is it worth getting the upgraded turret for IS-3?
raw tusk
yep you btter get it
tender crest
yes it is
modern vine
K, thanks
tender crest
so guys do any of you when the new girls und panzer tanks will be for sale or did ribblestripe not say when they will be for sale ?
hushed shadow
Just coming soon. It’s not in the game yet, so it’ll be in the next update
open solstice
Is T29 good?
wise moth
T29 is amazing, arguably the best tier 7
cerulean wing
I'm not sure if I should get the K-91
zenith folio
add the vozilo A
knotty lodge
E50M or Obj-140
cerulean wing
Obj 140
zenith folio
obj is best tier x med
noble wren
Pr-Pr-Pravda I-Is2...
strange thicket
@knotty lodge i would say e50m
t62a > obj 140 also
solid gate
@zenith folio maybe in 2015
zenith folio
it still is
spark basin
its a relic
zenith folio
uhh I clap t22s t62 and 121s in 1v1s anytime anywhere it dont matter there wr or amount of games they always loose I get someone 10 to 0 today 55 wr player in there t22
solid gate
Best tier X tech tree med right now is the STB
Don't get me wrong the 140 is still plenty competitive but it isn't the best anymore.
zenith folio
stb is an ez kill tho its like food for a predator obj is still the best med its just underrated af bc of stuff like the overrated t62 turret and e50ms fatness
solid gate
The metrics speak for themselves
It may be good for you but you can't argue against the data
zenith folio
I may just be the downright master of obj then
bc there is only one person that has ever beaten me more than once and its one of my friends in his e50m
fleet berryBOT
S-T-F-U#4582 has been warned.
zenith folio
lol
solid gate
Just got Maüschen, tips?
wheat grove
Please give jagdtiger legendary camo
zenith folio
maushen tips hide lower plate and angle
rotund palm
Any FV215B Tips? The Heavy tank not the Tank Destroyer
zenith folio
side scrape and use your speed and good gun
rotund palm
So play it like a Maus ?
zenith folio
if maus had identity issues and decided to try to be a med
solid gate
Isn’t KV-44 fake? Also I saw mention of a KV-14 somewhere online though think they may have meant the KV-13.
rotund palm
Eh it is only a blue print for a KV 44 exist But russians never made it so...
zenith folio
kv4 only existed In blueprints
rotund palm
So is KV 5 and KV 6 and KV 44 and also KV 7 never existed it didn't have a blue print @solid gate
solid gate
Wait I saw mention of a KV-7 as well. Wonder if there was a KV-6 (not the one a model kit basher made) too.
wheat grove
@rotund palm use the turret and the great dpm it has
solid gate
@rotund palm You’re forgetting concepts.
tulip sail
Yes
zenith folio
who deleted it
tulip sail
No pretty much all countries had a version
solid gate
A version of what? Multi-turreted tanks?
rotund palm
@solid gate idk if this is the KV 44 Blueprint thought
tulip sail
Ram 1, t-35, t-28, crusader mk1 an mk2
And no he means small mg turret
zenith folio
yep
solid gate
@rotund palm That looks impractical as heck.
@tulip sail Oh
rotund palm
What if they made a KV 44 Irl?
solid gate
I wonder if there is anything similar to the Panther II or E 50 that is German. Kinda don’t want to use E 50 M since that is a Wargaming creation.
tulip sail
Its entirely fake (or busy work ) and theres a lot more tanks with secondary mg turrets but I'm exhausted and cant think of them atm
zenith folio
I'm doing a kit bash thing and I wanna swap the cupola out for a mg turret and smack a cupola on that soo anyone got any ideas
rotund palm
Anyways imma go Grind for FV4005
tulip sail
Mg turrets are slow to traverse and are difficult at best to use in close defense
And btw the kv7 is real as is kv9
solid gate
Why were countries fascinated by multi-turreted tanks for a while anyway? And yes I count ones with at least one machine gun turret as a multi-turreted tank.
tulip sail
Because it has a lot of potential as well as there doing it so it must be a ggood idea for us to try it
zenith folio
bro im using a t34 85m hull with a lot of mods, panther type suspension, t54 mod 1 turret, Pak 88mm, so swapping the cupola for a mg turret would match it and look nice especially with all the spaced armor on it
solid gate
Well except in hind sight the multi turrets weren’t that great. No KV-8 though?
@solid gate don't play the victim. We both know there was a reason for that warning.
tulip sail
That sounds interesting personally I like the patton style
zenith folio
??? my build or something else
tulip sail
@solid gate theres a kv 8 it's a flamethrower
@zenith folio yes your build
solid gate
Ah, that wouldn’t work in Blitz though.
tulip sail
Why not?
zenith folio
my build has a coax auto cannon and a hull flamethrower and I wanna mount duel mg34s in the mg turret
dont judge ik its stupid
tulip sail
That too op actually it sounds pretty cool
@solid gate the kv8 retained its 76mm gun the kv9 was the one that had a dummy barrel with a 47mm in it (unless I switched them its been awhile)
zenith folio
lol a kv5 with a 57mm
tulip sail
I mean they had some nasty 57mm at guns
tulip sail
For blitz that wouldn't work well but irl I could see it
zenith folio
yeah cal doesn't rlly matter irl asking as it can pen
its like how a anti tank rifle can take out a panther
tulip sail
Yup though that's a bit different situation but same concept
zenith folio
... couldn't I just use a panzer 1 turret or something for my build ;-; wouldn't that be a better idea
strange thicket
i just got tiger 2 and it doesn't seem as OP as people portray it
i just had a match where i was angling my armor but people complete buttered through my turret any tips to over come this
tulip sail
Yeah that would work fine as long as it would fit @zenith folio
zenith folio
@strange thicket dont angle tiger 2s turret its sides become weak just wriggle when facing them
strange thicket
@zenith folio i don't angle my turret
i know it makes it even more of a weakspot
i was facing them and trying to wiggle
it was a 1v5 situation xd
still most shots went through the turret
zenith folio
u driving back and forward and where they higher tier or tds close or long range and there isn't much u can do in a 1v1 scenario @strange thicket
solid gate
Why do people say Mauschen is a downgrade from VK100.01? More pen spots?
storm cradle
maybe add t34-85m? from wot pc
zenith folio
hmm not a bad idea
strange thicket
@solid gate i think because tier to tier vk100.01 is better
zenith folio
the vk100.01 is pennable by tier 1
open solstice
Why don't they change FV215B with super conqueror like on the pc version?
solid gate
This isn't PC. Blitz does their own thing.
Now if you like the way PC does things there is a version of the game just for you.... The PC version.
zenith folio
lol
open solstice
Well i don't have a PC so i play this.If i had PC,I wouldn't be here
strange thicket
@zenith folio which area exactly
also in a side scraping position there isn't really much tank that can go through the cheeks or easily through the cupola
the lower plate is quite small too
zenith folio
@strange thicket the cupola vision slots are 0mm thick pennable my tier 1 and he
solid gate
Hmmmmm. Panther II then E 50. After that you have nothing designed like them as far as I can find.
strange thicket
that shouldn't be stopping you from getting e50m
solid gate
Nah. It’s for my own idea. I don’t want to copy Wargaming and cause trouble.
E 50M is there idea of an improved/modernized E 50 in order to fill in tier 10 in their game. If I want to make a dream game of my own I have to think of something else. So either my own semi fake design of a E 50 for my tier 10 (Panther II cannot be tier 9 and E 50 being tier 10 leaves tier 9 unfilled). So I’m stuck as well. Could do the Leone (mbt project between Germany and Italy) but that tank I’m afraid would feel too different from the Panthers and E 50.
strange thicket
oh you are working on your own game or some kind of project?
solid gate
It’s not a game yet but I would like it to be one day. Challenge Wargaming.
strange thicket
oh well
Good Luck
hope you get there
and if you do please don't turn out like them
solid gate
I intend not to if I ever get around to actually making a game. I’ll probably still do premiums or whatever to name them. Tanks I cannot fit into the tech trees for whatever reasons. Still I wouldn’t want to focus too much on selling those like they do.
strange thicket
you can just link the e50m to a heavy close to it or e100
the heavy and medium line are pretty similar starting from tiger 2
solid gate
Oh and no loot box type crap. Eh, the problem with that is you have a medium line that goes to tier 9 then leads to a heavy that another heavy already leads to.
strange thicket
you can choose between aggressive kinda play style and mobility or more armor but slower
zenith folio
u could use Leo 1
solid gate
Well the only other options are make up my own version of the E 50M or as I’m calling the E 50 I or use the Leone. Had to put space because then people would think it is E 501 which it’s not. It means E 50 Improved. Which if the war had continued and the E 50 had been used they may have made an even better (an improved) version of it.
@zenith folio Already using that. However, unlike Wargaming I have considered some tanks they have not. Like a German Europanzer/Standard Panzer prototype that seems to have lead to the Leopard Prototypes then finally Leopard 1.
strange thicket
there is no way u could use leo 1
zenith folio
kpz70 is my best bet and u could aways find some weird blueprint and work from that maybe a rear turreted e50 idk
solid gate
Perhaps. I think Leone is best bet for a real tank though. Though if I did that it may be used twice. Once for Germany and once to Italy.
Best bet for semi fake is just make a better version of E 50.
strange thicket
no leo1 is definietly not suitable for the panther line
completely too different
you need the sp1c line to be the only way to get used to the playstyle
the panther line is more similar to e100 line in having a fair mobility and angling your armor
solid gate
True. Not sure where Wargaming found the Rhienmettal Panzerwagen. However, I feel confident that thing must have been at least a concept. Also I haven’t figured out what to do with Indien Panzer.
Also the Leone is not the Leopard 1 in case you are getting confused.
zenith folio
indien panzer could be a bridge gap between 2 lines
strange thicket
indien panzer is also suitable for leo1 line
it actually focuses on using your dep and peek aboo
which is the skill you could learn from that line
for the vk28.01 it is about speed and poitioning and playing it safe
both skills are applied when playing leo 1 in the end
oh alright
solid gate
Honestly I haven’t found any information on a real VK 28.01. VK 16.02 Leopard yes but the VK 28.01 not sure is even real at this point. Hence why I haven’t used it but something else I found.
zenith folio
I doubt it existed tbh
solid gate
Aufklärungspanzer 38d
That’s what I found. Another thing is the Panther lightened with a small turret and smaller gun. It looks stupid as heck though.
strange thicket
they usually provide historical source on their website(wargaming wiki)
unless it is fake too
solid gate
Sometimes Wargaming provides fake historical information to fool us.
strange thicket
you kidding right? that is just a bruh moment
crystal hare
@solid gate give WG some slack here, ovbiously they can’t have only tanks that existed on the frontline they have to get creative and find blueprints of planned prototypes and actual prototypes too
strange thicket
ths is what i found on their website
solid gate
Also I have found a Krupp Panzer IV with sloped hull. Looks similar to the Krupp 38d.
True but they aren’t the best at providing accurate historical info.
strange thicket
i think they need to change is5's standard shell
it is really painful
zenith folio
solid gate
Well I’ve made the Tiger P a premium in my list so far. Same with HWK 12 and 30. VK 30.01 (P) may also end up there. Plus I put a VK 45.04 as a premium as well.
bouncy tank
zenith folio
the sloped armor was a proposition for a panzer 4 upgrade but it never happened they had full design plans but didn't want to change there factory set ups to allow production for it
strange thicket
@solid gate why tho xd
crystal hare
@solid gate what list
solid gate
@strange thicket Because I couldn’t fit them into the tech trees.
@crystal hare My tech tree lists for my own idea. I started it after Wargaming stupidly made T54E2 a heavy at tier 8 and a premium on top of that. Realistically it’s a medium and I personally think it should have been tier 9. But whatever, I’m not Wargaming.
zenith folio
wg is kinda stupid sometimes
crystal hare
Ok nice keep up the good work @solid gate
cerulean wing
Is the K-91 good?
solid gate
There is a 120mm mounting version a blogspot guy found. Look for Off the Mark: US Revamp. He sadly hasn’t finished his idea for US PC tech tree revamp. He got about halfway done with his last post being early to mid 2017 then he disappeared. Still he has some nice little articles on US tanks.
zenith folio
unusual
suspicion 100
solid gate
I think he probably mentioned real life may get in the way at some point. It probably did. And he may have lost interest or got bored too?
zenith folio
I have being working on my project for a year now
and im not bored of it
solid gate
I see. I haven’t been working on mine near that long.
zenith folio
oh u have a lot to learn then XD
solid gate
And here they come with the Eagle 7.
zenith folio
ikr
ashen gulch
I feel like the B-C 25 T is getting worse every time new tanks get added.
zenith folio
it is
golden birch
Sometimes I just really wish there could be more missiles 😔
zenith folio
wg should give them there own match maker and leave them out of normal battles
jolly crag
That sheriff pershing should be called pershing single action