topaz dust
yea
#vehicles-discussion
solid gate
Seriously?
Stupid server.
@solid gate Well Wargaming’s description of that one is too close to the one for the M41B. Also I know that torsion bar is a type of suspension.
Oh and I’ll send you it in a direct message because this server is stupid about capital letters.
@low elk I kinda agree except about the Type 64 being THE best. It’s a really tough light to play.
strange thicket
What is so special about ms-1
tulip sail
It's the russian copy of the FT
low elk
just run around like a bulldog when playing the type 64
its not a hard tank
solid gate
@solid gate the M41B your listing already uses a completely different engine and muzzle brake
How ever I did stumble upon a proper 90mm bulldog
Well whatever. Since I probably cannot find a German 90mm Bulldog I’m disregarding it for my own idea. Wargaming can have it but unless I see any information on it I’m considering it iffy to fake.
@low elk Ha! Then I’d want the Type 64 based off the Bulldog for that. In face it is a Bulldog but with more armor and maybe a different engine. I don’t know. The Chinese upgraded/modified it to make the Type 64 Prototype.
@solid gate close it’s based off the M42 duster which is based off M41
@solid gate And which nation made the Bulldog in the last picture you sent?
@solid gate that one is off Brazilian descent how ever it’s a mysterious variant as I’ve been unable to find its designated name
Also I meant this one not the Duster based one:
Well maybe not the best picture. FTR found that one.
Any rear view pictures?
low elk
solid gate
Yes, we all know. But I’m not talking about that one anymore.
That one is called the Hybrid by some it seems. The “prototype” is an upgraded M41 Bulldog.
That one seems to be on display
Paper drawing FTR found too.
tulip sail
@solid gate huh I figured they were close to the same do you have a source or two on that?
I'm interested In reading more about it
tulip sail
Not the picture you just posted
solid gate
For the Record has the only information they could find on it. Wikipedia also mentions it. Sadly hard to find any other places if you type in Type 64 Prototype.
i think y'all want a M41D, the chinese tier 8 light tank on PC.
tulip sail
Oh nvm I've found wikipedia underwhelming on most topics
solid gate
It’s up armored and has a different engine with 530hp. FTR is better M4 Obsessed.
That one in your image does seem to be on display the FTR looks like it resembles the M41D
ja
Perhaps it does. Nobody is perfect though.
How ever the M41D has a different gun besides the M32
Upgrades are hard to distinguish visually sometimes.
like this
M32 and M41Ds gun
FTR’s information of the Type 64:
Length: 8.2m
Width: 3.2m
Height: 2.7m
Weight: 25t
Max speed: 70kph(down slope)/62kph(on road)
Performance: 160km
Trench Crossing: 1.83m
Water Crossing: 1.2m
Crew: 4
Main Gun: 76mm M32K1
Turret: M41 W. Bulldog + spaced armor
Chassis: M41 W. Bulldog + armor upgrade
Engine: Napco 8V-71T
Radio: ANVRC-7
Yeah, they look a bit different. The guns.
Bulldog turret? First off the hull is based off the m42 conversion
Not for the Type 64 “prototype.” That’s the “hybrid” that has the M42 hull.
So this is a forum from 2013 and hasn’t even been updated it sounds very very forged
This also raises some eyebrows
tulip sail
Wait but the T-55A is an east German modification isnt it?
solid gate
t55A was a German modification and Type 59 was also a early T55 model and was a T54A model
yes that and one is a light scout tank and the other is a MBT
not even comparable
tulip sail
That's just a bit suspect
Ok I'm not good with post war but arent they different years too?
tulip sail
Um that doesn't narrow it down I'm only good with post war shermans
solid gate
Now that’s also something interesting the guns are listed as m32K1 which implies a modification but it never gets listed
Wait so T-55A really is German since they modified it from the T-55?
They were sent to east Germany? During those years
Well I think the Type 64 Prototype is real even if people are getting some of the information wrong.
Also...
The bulldog can’t even withstand a hit thus uparmoring it is pointless and...tungsten is extremely harmful if inhaled or penetrated....
Well they may have that wrong. I don’t know. But up-armoring the Bulldog may not be effective but worth a shot.
i'm not a chemistry buff, but doesn't the tungsten get more stable as an alloy?
Tungsten is extremely durable but is also brittle but inhaled from penetration is extremely lethal
Funny that they say Tungsten with a capital T they say alloy steel.
tulip sail
And it's a slow and very un fun way to go
solid gate
Now the verse also says it would resemble the M41A3 but the m41A3 is listed in TE as a just a A1/m41 with a fuel injection system
exactly why you don't trust wiki
Well the pictures resemble each other outwardly no matter which Bulldog you’re looking at. Except maybe subtle things.
The bulldog he probably took a picture of had either weight simulators on it but wasn’t removed
tulip sail
If we went to TE's discord they probably would have some great insight on this discussion
solid gate
Huh 8v-71 translates to Detroit diesel
Although it does list it as imported which makes sense
The FTR lists the engine got upgraded or boosted to 530 HP and was imported under “local bus use” which he doesn’t back up
Well some of what FTR wrote and some of what Wikipedia user wrote are the exact same words. Then they have paragraphs/sentences that they do not share. Really this Type 64 could be real but people got some informational it wrong. Or it could be fake.
@solid gate However how do you explain the drawing? That’s either historical or someone is really good at drawing a forgery.
@solid gate the document doesn’t back itself up but it that drawing just seems too simple to be historical note there even is a bulldog variant such as the M41D which is Chinese that does have the side skirts
Hmmmm. Perhaps.
So either the original poster got them heavily mixed up
Well the Type 64 we have isn’t bad but certainly not easy to play. All I’m saying. Also all I’m saying is that if I wanted a true Chinese Bulldog type tank it wouldn’t be that.
The document also says “the last tank would be finished by 1968 although the Type 64 went in service in 1975
M42 Dust hull seems quite altered from the original Bulldog hull so it’s funky looking and even more useless. Then you have the Hellcat turret which cannot take a hit either. In fact HE to the top is gonna hurt.
That is a big mess up.
I still like the idea even if it really is just the M41D or something like that. A competitor to it’s Type 64 (Duster hull) brethren.
Weird the wiki article lists that prototype aswell it was edited 2 months ago
I edited a Wiki article that listed all the A series British tanks in a table. Added the A46 which was missing. Also had to change up their bit about the A45 being the last tank to carry the A series designation. Though not surprised someone thought that as it was re-designated the FV201 later.
feral elk
next solstice
Ok
amber turtle
How long does it take for a VRT ticket ?
lyric oriole
Generally a couple hours, in some cases a couple days
inland osprey
Does the Sheridan have better missile range than the T92E1?
hollow belfry
@inland osprey i dont think so.
hidden isle
Hello all should i use the 152mm gun or the 122mm gun on the ISU? (BL-10 is not researched )
solid gate
i just bought this beauty any tips? (im gonna get 100% crew etc) i just need tips how to ppau it
vast gyro
Even I'm only at tier VII, I think you can try not to be spotted in this Conway
I think it doesn't have that much front armour
floral seal
When someone use AP ammo on BT-7 art. something dies inside me :/ Just gave a friendly tip to use HE only as it has better pen than AP to some guy during a game and i got bashed. It's not a shame to don't know something
||ofc this lad was over 60%, i just don't get why players with 60%+ wr are the most salty ones||
modern vine
As the Panther II, is it more worth it to get the top gun or the bottom gun. I’m currently on the Panther II and I’m not sure which gun is better
hard nexus
the most salty players are actually sub-par wr players
civic terrace
@modern vine top gun
modern vine
Any particular reason?
hollow moth
@solid gate bro what exactly make this gif about vehicles?
solid gate
Lulu?
drowsy sky
Is this a good tank or nah?
sour veldt
Is it worth the 1800?
hidden isle
Should i research the auto loading gun on the M41 Bulldog or research the max gun?
zinc condor
From my opinion, you should research the top gun that have 3 secs reload since it good
reef widget
What tank will vicker light's line branch of from?
drowsy sky
The max gun is good
strange thicket
@hidden isle you cannot use the 152mm in tier 8 it is pain
use the 122mm untill you research the BL-10
solid gate
I don’t wanna hear lip about using the “wrong gun” but T49 sucks in general. Derp gun is inaccurate I’m sure when moving, especially over distance, and the 90mm doesn’t have the reload it should. RU does it better with 90mm. 4.95 second reload vs more or less 5.5 second reload. Also RU is shorter height wise and has more HP. Now RU cannot shoot over the back as effectively because lack of gun depression over that end but overall the RU is far superior. Heck RU even has a better view range. So there is no point in playing T49 over RU except if you love stinking derp guns.
@reef widget Comet I believe.
stiff spear
kv4 is so weak pls buff >:c
solid gate
The derp gun would be an option if it had AP or APCR but HEAT is useless I hear and I suck with derp HE. Doesn’t ever pen and does crap damage because of that.
KV-4 only needs buff on that stupid turret weakness.
solid gate
Well it used to be a side scrape beast but now it’s closer to the old Tiger II when it comes to side scraping.
Still better than Tiger II before buff to that tank at it but not as good as it once was. You cannot overangle as much as you once could. Overangling KV-4 gets punished a lot more now than back in the day.
stiff spear
i shouldnt have gone to kv2's tree...
solid gate
lol what should i do with 2k gold?
Keep saving it.
ayeee
You got any premium tanks?
strange thicket
@solid gate now that sounds like a you problem
the is nothing stinky about the derp gun on the t49 you just can't play it
also you are grinding the line in the first place for what comes in end
not because ru exists then yeah let's not grind the american light line because there is no need to play t49 over ru
viral lodge
T49 is fine, it is one of the most played tanks in the game.
chrome stirrup
wonder if that's because of people grinding it or liking it, would be interesting to see
low elk
not a lot of people know how to play it lol
its a hard tank to do well
viral lodge
Liking, it was still one of the most played before Sheridan release.
low elk
yep
its fun even if you have no idea how to play it
chrome stirrup
its also fun to bounce the 500+ damage in my E 50, or the 200 from a stock gun
strange thicket
huh
solid gate
The T49 excels at hit and running and because of that derp factor it has this fear effect that is seen in almost all lights it encounters the Ru 251 has the exact opposite as it is extremely predictable and paper bulldogs are difficult to HE the t49 also does not slide as bad as the ru 251 and is no where near as big as it
tulip sail
@solid gate the t49 is an entirely different type of play style than the ru it's like comparing a ridgeliner to a sniper
low elk
not really
T49 just does what the RU does in 15 seconds but T49 does it at once
It should not have that good of a 90mm since
- not a lot of people use it
- T49 is more mobile than the RU and its just smaller and harder to HE
- T49 Derp gun is more like playing a hit and run than a COD warrior
solid gate
Oh yeah T49 also has the highest P/W ratio of all the bulldog hulls aswell
low elk
T49 is the pinnacle of a fun light tank
solid gate
T49 is one of a kind and is stupidly fun to use unlike the broken T92
exotic dune
Even tho the Ru 251 is the fastes tank in the game it's acceleration is trash. WG relly need to nuff it's acceleration. React with a 100 if u agree.
💯
heady lintel
What about the little leo?
With like three hundred damage per clip
And it's fast
And the amx ELC bis
It's stupid fast and for run and gun
heady lintel
This be true it's basically a tank destroyer with no armor an good engine
Alright what about bulldog?
Decent gun pretty fast
strange thicket
no armor it is all about the speed and gun for that line
heady lintel
Well let's take a look at the opposite side of the spectrum. T1 broken in tier v
strange thicket
t1 heavy is stupid in that tier i agree lol
heady lintel
I have blocked over 4000 damage in 1 minute and taken out six vehicles before dying to a tank destroyer using he rounds
Lol but m6 kinda sucks
elfin meadow
strange thicket
because you got to deal with better tanks
heady lintel
Literally
Same issue with kv2
Broken in tier v and vi but its a sitting duck against tier vii
20 sec reload but average of 900 damage he rounds average
It should be a tank destroyer
strange thicket
no
KV2 is hot garbage
slow turret
sluggish
overall trash
and the accuracy is shit and the pentration is not even that good you can mostly just splash HE that is if you hit the shot
it is not good in experienced hands
next solstice
The Ru-251 does not need a buff
next solstice
Lmao
elfin meadow
"nuff"
heady lintel
The devs should buff a tier three or four tank and make the rest of it's tech tree trash
strange thicket
logic 0
heady lintel
Why did I get muted on wotmemes? I only suggested more kv2 memes
viral lodge
@heady lintel its called the Otsu as far as OP Tier 3.
heady lintel
That's new to me or I just never paid attention what tech tree?
I'm so far out of tier three thati haven't played since like august
heady lintel
Wtf what country is it sold under
solid gate
japan. it was meant to have like a 7 or 9 second reload but wg ducked it up and the clip reload is 2.9 seconds with 0.67 intraclip and 40 shells with 40 alpha damage. they removed it from the store after about an hour once they realized the mistake and they said it will never be sold again
viral lodge
🤔 why wouldnt they just nerf it and refund?
heady lintel
Holy crap lol
solid gate
they cant, because its a premium tank. apparently they cant ever nerf premium tanks because they can get sued for false advertising somehow
heady lintel
Has that happened before?
viral lodge
128 people own it
solid gate
never
heady lintel
I mean I know the Dracula is op but this is rather funny
viral lodge
prems only get buffed quite sure
solid gate
people complain about tanks being broken, but the ke ni otsu is the only truly legitimately broken tank
heady lintel
Well yes but also no there are different aspects of them for different playstyles
solid gate
if they nerfed the mobility of the drac it would be fairly balanced, the gun stats are mediocre and the lack of armor already makes it not totally op
heady lintel
I guess
viral lodge
Drac is mediocre in every way but its speed lol
Type 62 has great mobility, great gun, great Prammo.
heady lintel
Yeah I just played a match where someone had one and he dominates
viral lodge
That would just be a skilled player. They'd kick your rear in any tank
solid gate
you must be talking about me ;D
viral lodge
The only reason to pick drac over Type 62 is zoom
solid gate
and the ram capability
heady lintel
What about hellsing
viral lodge
Helsing is good, better objectively than Drac
heady lintel
Sorry I changed my username
I love how they haven't removed the Halloween attachments for my kv2 yet
viral lodge
Attachments are permanent.
heady lintel
So there are like multiple?
viral lodge
multiple what?
heady lintel
Atachments available or is there just one per tank
viral lodge
Matters what tank, some have it some dont
heady lintel
Lol I feel like an idiot I had no idea about any of the store mechanics I already learned alot
viral lodge
Duks been typing for a while
solid gate
Helsing has the mobility of a grille 15 at tier 7 and a less than glamorous gun IMO. For example, the traverse for both the turret and hull sucks, like the Grille. Good top speed, yet bad acceleration like the Grille. Decent camo. the gun would be better if the second shell followed the same trajectory as the first, making it easier to aim at weak points on heavies and hit them accurately. however, because the second shell often bounces because of different RNG for the 2nd shell, the guns DPM is cut in half and it makes the Helsing much less desirable as a td and more as a backline medium support where they can sink shots into lightly armored lights and meds.
viral lodge
that is correct, it does good vs meds/lights, also has trolly armour
heady lintel
Holy crap it's like my kv2 but faster reload
viral lodge
KV-2 just sucks. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
excuse me? begone heretic
solid gate
wow
heady lintel
Upside is because it has such a long reload tho you can make alot more credits per battle because your fire rate is slower
viral lodge
Also means lower possible max damage especially if you miss. its aim isnt the best either
solid gate
stop judging me and my mt25, bromwell, angry connor, and vk 36.01/28.01
viral lodge
lol
I occasionally dip down to T6 and play my Victory or Loza but thats mainly to warm up for a tournament.
heady lintel
True but for some reason if feel like the dispersion circle is a joke and the shell more often than not finds its target
solid gate
i believe to make the helsing more viable, they should make the 2nd shells rng match the first, so both shells would have the same predetermined penetration and trajectory, however, keep the rng that decides the damage for both shells different.
viral lodge
I mean Helsing already performs pretty well overall I think.
solid gate
i still think helsing should be changed in this way. its not a buff per se, because the hard stats are not being improved, but it will definitely improve its combat capability
viral lodge
Eh its a buff cause it is improving the reliability of the damage, consider the Leo (T5) nerf to pen, its the reverse, they are making it less reliable as a nerf.
heady lintel
Yeah but my t1 has its crew reduculously well trained so not or less the modules don't even really matter because armor. The enemy can only really track me which doesn't really do damage. As long as I can shoot I'm pretty much golden
viral lodge
T1 is super OP, it needs heavy nerfing
slender cliff
T1s melt in front of my vk.36.01 H
lyric oriole
Wow a tier 5 melts in front of a tier 6 never saw that one coming
viral lodge
Wow, something dies infront of one of the best Heavies in the tier, thats a surprise
slender cliff
I’m proving a point lmao
golden birch
🗿
strange thicket
@heady lintel you didnt get muted in the meme channel what are you on about lol
heady lintel
I Kno I figured it out
tulip sail
@solid gate it wouldn't be false advertising since they say in the Eula everyone agrees to that they can nerf premiums they just prefer not to
solid gate
Tips for chaffee and light tanks in general?
feral elk
solid gate
@solid gate spot, assassinate weak and isolated targets, second line support, try not to get focused on
nova monolith
Nani?
exotic dune
Even tho the Ru 251 is the fastes tank in the game it still need a little bit of a acceleration buff. React with a 👍 if u agree
feral elk
Oof
calm inlet
i can react lol, but its got plenty acceleration
low elk
casual FLEX
but not really
at least make it faster cuz the ATGMs just powercreeped it
solid gate
normal roles can’t react you meanie
scarlet rapids
How can i go hull down in a vehicle that moves so slow?
dapper panther
slowly
dapper panther
while in a slow tank, you must choose your spots carefully
enviroment awareness is a must
scarlet rapids
Well this will take a long while. I even lost all my money fighting in the thing
I recently got the T29 and i would die more and more times
wide robin
Buy a premium tank and make money. Without them you won't have that much fun. I would suggest a tier VI
And do never drive tanks completely stock! You have free xp for that
scarlet rapids
Alright
safe rock
kindred egret
amx light tanks gun depression/ elevation is horrible
cobalt junco
@scarlet rapids you shouldn't be shot getting into position in the first place unless a couple of light tanks rush straight across the map. you're probably rushing into a position that is over extended
kindred egret
the only time that happens is on certain maps where you are a very slow tank. everyone all gathers on the other side of the map but you spawned at the far end of the spawn
but there are a handful of maps that does that. leave a slow tank behind because you spawned on a bad place and the team just leaves you trailing behind. by the time you catch up half the way campers already have you spotted in the open
cobalt junco
like what maps? only one I can think of is canal and that's if you're stupid/brave enough to try to go through the river to meds side
I ground out stock t29 and I never had that issue of getting shot, just be more decisive on where you're going. Think ahead
btw pershing is a slow pos that has limited carrying potential while patton is a dpm beast that can hunt other meds and lights, something the pershing can't do
kindred egret
what are you talking about lmao, you either cross a camper sniper area or you waste half the game driving to catch up to your teammates, on some maps
cobalt junco
the upgrade is one of the best i've ever had
? what are you talking about, what maps can get you shot while getting into position, i never had that issue with slow tanks
i just plan ahead where i'm going and book it unless my team decides they want to go somewhere else then i follow them
kindred egret
canal is one of them
kindred egret
https://wiki.gcdn.co/images/6/67/Canal_map_strategy.jpg either 6 or 3 and you happen to spawn at the further spawn
cobalt junco
if to the far corner and you're a slow tank, you probably shouldn't go there anyways (hills), either follow the border and go to mediums spot or go to town
kindred egret
randos meds wont listen to you. they just rush ahead and die
so you are left to solo if you want to take a safe path
cobalt junco
you're being extreme, they won't die 90% of the time it takes for you to go around
kindred egret
fine. maybe it sounds a bit extreme. but most randos still go about their own way. if that situation happens you either solo or risk it in the open camper zones
anyways its not very often it happens since you have to be pretty unlucky, and mostly with unteched engine
cobalt junco
look, always take the safe route or go to town and see if you can get firing angles
stock tanks, understandable
kindred egret
soloing in a tank that needs support in town can end pretty badly. particuarly if you find out that all the enemy happen to be there. it not like a med that might possibly bail himself out of there if he spots them before hand
you dont really want to solo with a jd e100, or a E3, at least typically
also theres Castilla. where as a slow tank, you either spend half of the game driving to town or be forced into sniper camp death trap. worst map in the game.
scarlet rapids
@cobalt junco sry i didnt respond quick. I thought no one was listening. Honestly i am the guy that would try to catch up with the others because sometimes when im catching up the game would basically be over or everyone else dies cause i couldn't get a good shot at someone while trying to get to them. When im too busy catching up and everyone else gets to actually do something i would honestly not feel.. Satisfied? Bc i literaly did nothing.
But there is this map where i spawn and this happened multiple occasions with different takes i had. Idk if they are rushing to the other side of the map or what but the enemy would just be literally behind me and i die at basically the beginning of the game
kindred egret
did you tech your engine? its matter of being unlucky in most situations. unless you are playing matilda or smth?
scarlet rapids
I tech my engine till its max
But not my treads. Idk about my gun and i did get the armor too i think
kindred egret
if you get unlucky you are only left with gambling. you either solo or try to catch up to them. depends on the map, or if you just want to risk
scarlet rapids
Sometimes people are retards
kindred egret
dont expect anything from randos
scarlet rapids
One time i was literally the only one left and they just BANG BANG BANG im dead
kindred egret
that desert map is also a bad map for slow tanks in unlucky spawn. particuarly if the team swarms in the desert. you are open to getting shot if you follow them
scarlet rapids
Getting into a hull down position is actually challenging to me bc i dont even know if im doing it right.
kindred egret
anyways, again its a matter of being unluckly most of the time for me. it shouldnt be happening that often for you. just saying
scarlet rapids
I see what you sayin
kindred egret
ik its frustrating when it happens but normally, it only happens in a few situations
solid gate
@low elk First of all the T49 derp gun has HEAT as standard ammo which costs 725 per shot and that stuff doesn’t normalize, doesn’t reliably penetrate spaced armor on tanks that have that, and it cannot go through destructible objects. Plus the HE is premium and therefore costly. So why should I play the derp gun other than LOL moments? I disagree with the notion that it should have a crappy 90mm. That’s dumb thinking mate. Besides the T49 with the second turret AND that derp gun is really the XM551 Test Bed tank not the T49. Realistically they should have separated them in all the games and not put them as one tank. Something that Off the Mark blogger did in his US Revamp proposal.
scarlet rapids
Very frustrating especially when i get lag thats so bad that i wont be able to move
kindred egret
well thats another thing. but if its happening too often i think you might be doing something wrong
scarlet rapids
The lag?
kindred egret
no. being left to solo
scarlet rapids
Oh no it doesn't happen too often.
kindred egret
yeah, then its just something you gotta accept for what it is
ngl i think maps are getting worse and worse in this game
every map fix, they make the maps worse. and castilla is the worst map in the entire game, yet they never bother fixing that of all things
scarlet rapids
Yep. I found a strat online about how you have to move around and when in position move your turret around cause apparently its stronger than the hull
I probably stated that wrong tho
kindred egret
idk what ur saying
scarlet rapids
Strat for T29
steady stream
Pls nerf reload SU 251
scarlet rapids
Someone said to carefully plan where to go and use the turret to your advantage because i got shot where my turret was plenty of time and all it did was bounce shells
What map is Castilla?
kindred egret
castle map
its a pretty decent map if you are a med, or if you are a TD that likes to camp maybe?
otherwise its a nightmare for heavies
scarlet rapids
Well alot of people camps in the same freaking bush
kindred egret
maps is so stupid because you have to go around the map to get to the otherside. and the stupid river cuts it all off besides the two bridges by the side. from a bad spawn as a heavy, you either decide to waste 3 minutes of your firingpower trying to make it to the other side of the map or go brawl in that death trap
tbh even being in the right spawn still takes a long time to get to town, sometimes you are still better off just screwing with the death trap
scarlet rapids
Imagine encountering a tank that could do 700+ dmg to you with one shot while doing that
Im sure you probably encountered worse though but is it normal for a t8 or t7?
solid gate
Who the heck are you talking to? Nobody is there.
scarlet rapids
Idk how he got his name like that
kindred egret
not too sure galax. but it can happen i think
like that american prototype tank. its very slow
solid gate
What the heck!? Dude change your name man. We cannot properly see you.
kindred egret
i mean it can happen to any tank thats slow
solid gate
You look like a bot talking or someone else talking to themselves.
kindred egret
okay ill change it then
solid gate
Ok. Now where is your PFP? Is it a grey square?
kindred egret
im keeping the pfp
solid gate
Wow.......
low elk
no its a transparent tile
just what kids think is cool and stuff i suppose
kindred egret
the name change should be enough
scarlet rapids
I actually plan on going for the t95? I think
solid gate
You still a ghost but with a name now.
scarlet rapids
Let him/her be
solid gate
I think tanks or characters are much cooler than a tile.
By the way what is or who is Galaxarius?
solid gate
I’m still calling him/her Ghost because if it. Cannot stop me.
tulip sail
So what if they dont want a pfp
kindred egret
fine by me. pretty sure i could easily forget who thats refering to tho the next day
solid gate
Well at least they have a name now.
scarlet rapids
Galaxarius is just an oc i which is pretty self explanatory in the name
solid gate
I see. But what is your PFP supposed to be Galax?
tulip sail
Their oc
solid gate
Like is it the name of the species too or what?
solid gate
Oh, I see. I’m not coming off the wrong way about this am I? (Not referring to the thing with Ghost.)
scarlet rapids
What do you mean?
solid gate
Well I don’t mean to come off as I hate it or something like that. More curiosity.
scarlet rapids
You good. People ask stuff and i give answers. I dont see you hating it
solid gate
Well I don’t. Besides if I did I’d probably just say so. It’s interesting in a way and if you like it and wanna do that then that’s all that matters.
scarlet rapids
Thanks
solid gate
You’re welcome.
scarlet rapids
Designing tanks is hard
solid gate
And now to appreciate a few light tanks:
Real light tanks. My tanks I have designed in my head but cannot get onto paper worth a darn btw.
slender cliff
I see hull break opportunities 😍
scarlet rapids
Idk why but that last one reminds me of the t14 armata
Tanks i designed in my head came out but when i did more research on tanks its gonna need a makeover
neat nimbus
Would be nice if atgm tanks had a symbol to distinguish from others
slender cliff
When all modern mbts look the same
solid gate
Those are lights not MBTS
tulip sail
No they're nasty
slender cliff
Mbts are universal tanks 😂 that means it can have the speed of a light tank, the armor of a heavy, the firepower of a super heavy and all being the weight of med. @solid gate
tulip sail
Yet they won't be as effective in recon as a tank built for that ground up
solid gate
No matter how much armor you put on a light it will never be a heavy no matter how much firepower you give a med it won’t be a TD
@slender cliff also all MBTS weight at 60-65 tons which is not med weight at all
slender cliff
@solid gate
heady epoch
Anyone know what the tier 4 meta is?
slender cliff
Wouldn’t composite armor make a tank somewhat lighter?
solid gate
@slender cliff thats ultimately the goal of comp armor but the amount of it needed in order to be truly effective makes it heavy also that’s Wikipedia and I haven’t come across one mbt that weighs 30 tons
slender cliff
The British challengers which weight 60-66 tones are the heavier mbts btw
And there are mbts that weight less like the tr-85 and the t-64bm @solid gate
solid gate
That’s a really interesting number for chally 2 considering abrams varies between 65-70 and chally 2 is known to have thicker armor
slender cliff
Those too aren’t classified as heavies
solid gate
The Russian T-series all weigh in near 40-45-50 tons but this comes at a cost as most armor is placed in the front thus reducing profile and weight at a cost of highly reduced overall protection
slender cliff
There is even this @solid gate
solid gate
That ones still a prototype and I love how the stat card is still missing info
slender cliff
solid gate
Wonder where they testing that
heady epoch
I mean it's still 44 tonnes and that's supposed to be lightweight
slender cliff
Not all mbts are heavies
solid gate
Most of not all of them are above 30 tons that wiki article literally lists 75mm in it
heady epoch
I mean the lightweight one he linked was literally 44 tonnes 🤣
solid gate
It’s a more “medium” like mbt 1200 HP seems overkill for a 44 ton tank
slender cliff
44 tones heavy? Compare it to other ww2 heavies @heady epoch
heady epoch
But it's not a WW2 heavy
slender cliff
That proves my point lmao
heady epoch
It's a tank from 2012 🤣
solid gate
Idk where your going with this I just pointed out those light tanks in those images uptop were not MBTS idk how you went to ww2
heady epoch
You can't compare a tank that's nearly 100 years older, that's like an ultralight plane vs a Boeing
slender cliff
@solid gate but mbts CAN be lights
heady epoch
Also love how he didn't mention the vt5
slender cliff
@heady epoch I’m not making the comparison. I’m asking you to make one because you are saying 44 tones are heavy for a mbt
solid gate
Lights have extremely thin armor and that’s at a cost meaning it can’t fill the “heavy” role
heady epoch
Im not but your calling it light when it's not
slender cliff
@solid gate but it can for an mbt. After all mbts are universal
heady epoch
Light tanks are more for intimidation, like roll a few out vs infantry type stuff imo
solid gate
No MBTS need to fill the roles that they are listed as taking hits of a heavy having the fire power of a TD and mobility of a med
heady epoch
Ain't no way I'm rolling into a warzone with other tanks in a paper thin tank 🤣
slender cliff
@heady epoch ok. Let me explain this slowly. most mbts are heavier than it thus I said it was light.
tulip sail
That's not up to you to decide though
solid gate
If you want a proper light tank the M8 buford to stingray family properly serve those roles as they weigh in near 20 tons
tulip sail
Your going to disobey a direct order and get shot or court martialed?
heady epoch
Aye
slender cliff
Rip
heady epoch
I'm not a suicidal idiot.
tulip sail
Shooting your co is exactly that
heady epoch
No it's not, it's called relieving of command for the sake of lives
You'd be amazed how many times something like that's happened during wars
slender cliff
Who did that?
tulip sail
Yeah they usually get themselves killed by the guys next to them also tank vs tank is extremely rare
There are exceptions to the rule however that goes with most things
slender cliff
Its fury all over again @tulip sail
tulip sail
Just about
heady epoch
Also I can quote US navy regulations paragraph 1088
A military officer can relieve the co of command if he deems the judgement of the co faulty
slender cliff
So they can mutiny?
tulip sail
No it's a long process done by going to the co's superior
heady epoch
Or you can say he commited suicide 🧐
slender cliff
Glad they aren’t doing this anymore
heady epoch
If they catch me
tulip sail
You're on a boat good luck
heady epoch
Go full battlefield bad company and invade a country while on the run from the military
slender cliff
Better to be a pow than a deserter
heady epoch
Especially if your a high enough ranking officer
Can I get a hallelujah for the Geneva convention
slender cliff
No
heady epoch
I mean it outlawed my phosphorous weapons 😭
tulip sail
Even if your a pow they wouldn't just forget that you shot your co also just look at what happened to patton for slapping someone
heady epoch
Patton?
slender cliff
He slapped two of his officers
heady epoch
Good man
low elk
Translation for Chinese in the background
Stay away from Areca catechu (top)
please do not drive while tired (bottom)
ignored the parts that are useless
magic ledge
How to Charioteer?
solid gate
Ok Shir 2 is hard to find pictures of.
Found this:
Also TE has this drawing from one of their people for Iranian Shir 2/II upgrade:
Then there are these of a rusted tank a WoT Forumer found and posted back in 2017:
broken sentinel
@magic ledge use your speed to get around the battlefield. Be wary of your armor (as you have none). Use the HESH when you can, but dont force it. Use your 10° of gun depression to hide your hull and go hull down.
magic ledge
Thank you @broken sentinel
broken sentinel
Np
cunning python
Can I have a question? When does Italian Tanks gonna show up? I mean like own country’s Italian Tanks?
solid gate
What?? They’ve been in the game for a little while now
slender cliff
He means the meds and tds
solid gate
Ahh those I don’t think wargaming is considering them rn
hardy sparrow
No,he means when they are getting their own tech tree
slender cliff
Yeah I guess, but wg needs to expand the tree and add other nations like Poland before they could do that
next solstice
Maybe they’ll just add them to the general European tech tree
slender cliff
It would depend if wg chose to expand the line.
More than one tank nation under the same tab can get messy
scarlet rapids
Idk if this makes sense but um someone is gonna report me for sniping with a t29.. I know its not used for that but i seen some enemies and i wanted to hit them before they go away
Can anyone explain that to me? Not all heavies are capable of pushing assaults
Right?
slender cliff
Did you do well in the battle?
scarlet rapids
I doubt it. I only got a little damage in on one tank before everyone else died
hard nexus
t29 is capable of pushing an assault
scarlet rapids
Well mine isnt bc of me
strange thicket
so what if they report you you aren't getting any harm
scarlet rapids
Im just concerned that just bc im a heavy they always expect heavies tto do the same thing and i understand that but still
I understand that they want to help push but im pretty sure that push would be stopped very fast cause ppl dont even know what their doing 3/4 of the time
neat nimbus
T29 is good but chassis is a weak point try constant angle it while moving
scarlet rapids
Yea i try
neat nimbus
Got buffed should work or do side scrap
scarlet rapids
I even hang a little off cliffs but thats a bad idea
neat nimbus
Turret is safe always and when is only thing exposed
scarlet rapids
Yea
neat nimbus
Be careful smasher can hit you may even ammo rack ya
neat nimbus
That's a advice for every tier 5,6,7,8
strange thicket
uh
your upper plate isnt that weak in tier to tier fights
you are a heavy you are supposed to push not let your team mates get the damage
slender cliff
If you are in a t29, you are more than capable of pushing an assault. You have a good gun and a strong turret. You have to work on positioning and working your armor. It is better to soak damage for your team than camping in the back
scarlet rapids
I know my top plate not weak
strange thicket
but some times you are better off not pushing but if it is a big push then helping in it will definitely change the result
neat nimbus
Watch out for the t49 is a sting literally
scarlet rapids
T49...
strange thicket
you need to give us some context on the whole i was sniping thing cuz it ain't clear
t49? pfft just show it your tracks lmao
scarlet rapids
Funny i tried showing my tracks
strange thicket
showing your tracks while looking at it there is still a chance it could go through the tracks but it is way less than getting penetrated from the back with HE
neat nimbus
Also I recommend get enhanced sandbags if you want some extra hp
scarlet rapids
So thats how the others had more hp than me
scarlet rapids
???
scarlet rapids
Well i cant get stabilizer yet
scarlet rapids
Then i just need to buy the gld
cobalt junco
reactive armor is op if you want to brawl
scarlet rapids
I kinda went close to a tiger
cobalt junco
it's a get out of jail free card if you're quick with it
scarlet rapids
I lost in the end
magic ledge
Good equipments for Charioteer?
strange thicket
just position well and use your dpm to wreck enemies
and try to hull down if possible
solid gate
Yeah, but the thing is, it's slower than my brain .-.
strange thicket
well that is trading for the crazy dpm
solid gate
I guess. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
strange thicket
just take a position where you are able to use the dpm and don't get yourself exposed
scarlet rapids
Why does the Black Prince always block my shots
strange thicket
because it has armor
good amror
and if it is side scraping then the value rises up
also depends on what caliber and your pentration
scarlet rapids
Thats good to note.
strange thicket
if you can't pen it frontaly even then load premium ammunation
you can get them for credits by just swapping the currency
scarlet rapids
Its alot of credits already running me dry. I lose 5k to 18k everytime i lose or either i dont do enough in a match
strange thicket
well that is a you problem.
scarlet rapids
Im told that alot haha
charred relic
I have a question,why is the t28 defender's gun (120mm T53A1)penetration value is 225,while T34 using the same gun,same shell have a penetration value of 248?
broken sentinel
Because of balance
broken sentinel
The T28 Defender is already really good. Insanely good pen would kinda push it too far
There's a reason why the regular T28 has 248mm and the Defender doesnt
charred relic
Because they are not using the same gun?
I remember the t28 prototype/t28 have a AT gun
broken sentinel
Not really. Again, the T28 Defender is better in other aspects
ie more health
and a clip
Besides, 225 pen is already great
charred relic
I know of course the T28 d is a lot better,I ask it because I think it's really weird that the gun pen is different😂
Thanks for answering
broken sentinel
np
robust dirge
The at15 is the worst teir 8
dapper panther
i kindly disagree with that, Sir
robust dirge
Heres my reasoning
.The hull armor can be penned most tds and some heavys with standard rounds
.its too slow for the current meta. (Missle tanks and other fast bois can get behind very ez and remove all ur hp)
.the top gun has nice dpm but has such bad pen that i often am forced to use apcr which lowers the dpm by at least 300
@dapper panther ive also had games where ive done 2500 and up but the point is that it super hard to do that every battle
Most my games i do only 700-1500 damge
dapper panther
I agree, it's a highly situational tank..
just like about 40 others in that tier....
robust dirge
The only other i would consider this bad would be the t28 and the german vk
dapper panther
vk is a heavium, t28 has OP gun
hollow belfry
If you play the VK as a heavy, you are playing it wrong
go with your meds and surge the enemy meds with you dpm, you have armor that can get troll bounces by wiggling
50 degrees of traverse and 18,5 hp/tons basically make you uncirclable if you have half a brain
robust dirge
@hollow belfry exactly unlike the at15 which if you get pushed by most meds and lights you go into the circle of death
Even some heavys can get to your butt and end you
magic ledge
OMG IS-6 Fearless returns
royal charm
Tips for JTiger?. Equipment reccomendations? Free xp the top gun or na?
hollow belfry
If you get good results with the stock gun, keep your free exp for a really bad T9 stock grind
I’d probably run rammer, optics, supercharge and ehanced assembly
Try to stay in 2nd line, hulldown if possible
and just use your dpm as much as possible
solid gate
New Tiger 2 camouflage. I think I’m in love.
runic yoke
@royal charm you must play ,,hulldown", don't show lower part to enemies, also use your DPM. But be careful, JagTiger love being burned :)
royal charm
Allright thx
drowsy sky
What do you think about the IS-2, is it a good tank or not
stiff spear
do you guys recommend Löwe? is that a good tank?
rotund palm
It depends if you know how to hide the Lower parts of the tank
rotund palm
I play Tiger II as a Löwe Always Hide the Lower parts
But if you're facing a Td i prefer to Run lol
stiff spear
hmm
rotund palm
Especially T28 Defender
stiff spear
i meant to say ....ummm... is that a good tank overall?
rotund palm
It is a good tank
stiff spear
alright but i dont have enuf golds xd
rotund palm
I got mine from Huge container
stiff spear
i wish there could be a way to gain golds :,(
rotund palm
I kinda miss mad Games
stiff spear
im not a payer so i always lose :'((
rotund palm
I never pay for tanks too
drowsy sky
I mean you could always watch ads, that's how my friend manage to buy IS-5 without paying
stiff spear
i dont have good tanks i just have kv4 and i think its not powerful thats why mu name is like this atm
rotund palm
That's how i enriched M103
drowsy sky
Buff kv4 speed
rotund palm
KV 4 is good
drowsy sky
And it will be a good tank
stiff spear
buff kv4 on everything i hate myself that i bought that tank i cant kill much
rotund palm
Just avoid TD's and your good
drowsy sky
@stiff spear same the aiming time, slow speed and the reload speed
rotund palm
Add the KV 44 Super heavy tank so Russian tonks Gets Giant tanks
drowsy sky
It's like driving AT8
rotund palm
Add this boi
stiff spear
armor bad everybody can pen; i cant pen anybody, eveybody can damage me so much but i cant even damage a lot >:c my damage is always less than 400 but everybody i fight with in the game is damaging me over 400
drowsy sky
I'm rushing to get Tiger II now
stiff spear
i hate kv4
rotund palm
IS 4 is worth it
stiff spear
i wish i could buy kv1s at the time when i was at kv1
rotund palm
IS 7 is kinda bad
stiff spear
now im going from kv1s
stiff spear
IS4 is 100 times better than kv4
rotund palm
And 2 we're ammo racked by a Death star
stiff spear
death star?
rotund palm
FV 183
drowsy sky
@rotund palm KV-4 armor is hella good it's like a bouncy castle but your bouncing a bullet
rotund palm
I enriched KV 4 :/
drowsy sky
I haven't enriched any tanks
stiff spear
hella good armor? everybody can pen me!!!
drowsy sky
@stiff spear clearly you don't how to side scrape
stiff spear
i even have equipments
rotund palm
I have every KV Tanks (KV 1, KV 2, KV 1S, KV 3, KV 4, KV 5,KV 14)
stiff spear
14??? watt
rotund palm
KV 14 is a light tank
stiff spear
i bet its pre
rotund palm
I started this game is 2016 they removed it Cause it ruined a Heavy Line
drowsy sky
Weird for some reason other tanks can't even pen me
rotund palm
Say that to a side scraping Maus
drowsy sky
If you don't want to get pen then get Tiger II instead
rotund palm
Yeah and Get penned by ISU 152
rotund palm
FV 183 with 930 dmg
drowsy sky
T49 is even better
rotund palm
T49 is hella good
stiff spear
fv215 b 183?
drowsy sky
Light tank that can damage up to 1K
rotund palm
And kill RHM Fast
But KV 2 is the worst enemy in tier 6 when your a light tank spotting
stiff spear
these ones are the best right
drowsy sky
Yep
rotund palm
Remove Sheridan
stiff spear
especially last 2 of them
rotund palm
I mostly kill them by HE
drowsy sky
T29E1 have missile
rotund palm
I mostly get called a Hacker by Sheridans for making a rocket bounce Even though i was side scraping with my maus ;/
Who would even shoot a Side scraping maus
Really want this in the game
The line called KV 1 and KV 2 and KV 3 and KV 4 and KV 6 And KV 44
stiff spear
i dont know kv5 kv6 and kv44
rotund palm
KV 44 is the king of the KV
drowsy sky
Kv5 is a prem
stiff spear
yeah i know that kv5 is pre
rotund palm
And KV 6 is a Land Battleship who Was forgotten to repair
KV 44 was made but without the main Turret
drowsy sky
Kv-2-2-2-2
rotund palm
drowsy sky
Should I get St. Emil first or isu 152
stiff spear
this is kv6 right
rotund palm
Yep
stiff spear
did u say yep to me or..?
rotund palm
It's the KV 6
stiff spear
@drowsy sky isu !!!!
rotund palm
A Tank with Rockets ready to fire
drowsy sky
St. Emil is king of depression just like me
rotund palm
Nah St Emil is good mostly loved by KV 2
drowsy sky
I need 15k more exp to get isu and 5k exp to get St. Emil
rotund palm
Go for ISU
stiff spear
go for isu
rotund palm
St Emil and KV 2's will be happy with HE
rotund palm
The thing i hate is Seeing my Ally Sheridan fail to spot and Gets Killed instantly By a Death star
rotund palm
High caliber guns
drowsy sky
My favorite Tier VI so far is Pz IV S.
stiff spear
is that a pre tank
drowsy sky
Yep and it's hella good
rotund palm
My favorite tank is a Tier VII The freaking smasher
stiff spear
im rushing for ST-I btw is that a cool tank
rotund palm
Good for tier 8 but ready to die in tier X
stiff spear
i almost have enough xp
rotund palm
Imma farm creds with smasher
stiff spear
i have 122k and ST-I need 166k
drowsy sky
Smasher is a collector tank not prem
stiff spear
lets gooo i want ST-I SOO BAD
drowsy sky
Mines gonna expired tomorrow and the quarantine in here is having an argument of having an extension
rotund palm
Extension here already
drowsy sky
Yep, on nashorn
rotund palm
I remember derping an SU 152 lol
stiff spear
if i buy, i will keep su and ısu 152 in my garage cuz those tanks are legendary imo
drowsy sky
Kv2 and isu 152
rotund palm
What if KV 2 Have HESH Bullets?
stiff spear
hesh?
rotund palm
The prem bullet on FV 183
stiff spear
hmmm
drowsy sky
Heat instead
stiff spear
i wonder should i buy st-ı tho
rotund palm
Mostly can one shot leopard 1
hollow belfry
KV-2 sucks anyways. It would probably remain bad
rotund palm
I have FV 183 and it's fun
stiff spear
how did u.. xd
drowsy sky
Kv2 is not bad
rotund palm
SP 1 C is
stiff spear
the tanks that come after leopard is bad imo
hollow belfry
VK 36.01 H is better in everything but the alpha and way funnier
rotund palm
Black Prince
drowsy sky
VK 36.01 H is hella fun rushing enemies tho
rotund palm
But can be penned if a KV 2 have prem bullets
Is Tiger I even a Heavy tank it runs like a Med tank
hollow belfry
A KV-2 splashing a VK for 300 dmg every 20 sec while the VK 36 slaps it for 220 alpha every 7 sec is hilarious
rotund palm
I mean Premium bullets not HE
hollow belfry
Even the prammo sucks and has a very little chance to pen
rotund palm
Prem bullet can pen the lower part of the VK with a Good 600 damage
hollow belfry
once it came close and facehug, the KV-2 is dead
drowsy sky
VK 30.01 D is meh tank
hollow belfry
Plus in order to pen a VK 36’s lower plate with prammo, you first need to hit the tankwhile having the worst accuracy in the game. Then, you have to hit the lower plate, wich is not guaranteed neither
rotund palm
A Smasher could work
hollow belfry
If you have half a braincell you won’t play a VK 36 the same way when facing a KV-2 or a Smasher
rotund palm
Just used my Brother's Acc
hollow belfry
I’ll continue playing my VK 45.02 A for fun
solid gate
T29 initial concept:
slender cliff
That hull
plucky summit
@solid gate looks a bit like ST-I lol
solid gate
Hi guys, can anyone give me info what equipment to take on LTTB?
lyric oriole
This is my set-up, I don't drive LTTB much so I can't give full details, but this is what I use personally
brittle belfry
how do people play heaviums? they are the worst at hit point trading
a ferdinand or lowe will do better when you take turns poking
next solstice
They're essentially mediums with better armor. That might mean you could bully other mediums as a result of that don't you think? 🤔
brittle belfry
that might be the only way
strange thicket
@brittle belfry worst ? at hit point trading?
you can bully a T54 or a patton in an E50 and they will be hopeless
they will eventually need to load prammo and if you are facing hugging and they don't have backup it is pretty much game over
glass crypt
i play the lttb as an aggressive spotter so i prefer the gun laying drive since shell speed wont matter much, engine accelerator to capitalize more on my acceleration and the additional hp from improved assembly has saved me some times
same for the rest of eqp as the above
stable wasp
Nerf T92E1 and Sheridan for god's sake
robust dirge
Sheridan is op but the t92 is completely broken
low elk
are sure about that?
robust dirge
Yea 3k average is damn near impossible
low elk
explain
hard nexus
higher tier more hitpoints to shoot
solid gate
Sheridan should be nerfed a little bit. T92E1 should be nerfed by a lot.
robust dirge
👍
solid gate
I know many People dont like them, but I actually really enjoy Chi-Nu and Chi-To
slender cliff
If you want the real chi-nu chi-to experience try wt
zinc dock
All vehicles need a buff
solid gate
Especially the Sheridan and T92E1 ;)
tacit flare
the oe3 needs a buff if anything
solid gate
I can’t tell if I have chat ban in game (which I find unlikely) or if the chat system and command signals are messed up. I can see the chat symbol and even open to type but cannot send the messages. Also cannot use the commands. Something isn’t right.
tacit flare
my clan is having the same issue, thankfully not me tho 😄
solid gate
Well if it was chat ban surely it’d notify me I had been banned. Plus I shouldn’t be able to open chat and type in that case nor see the command signal thing at the bottom if chat ban even includes not using those. I think it’s a glitch though as my game was fine in that area until today.
tacit flare
i say it’s a glitch
solid gate
It is annoying me though as I cannot use SOS (not that many if any listen to that) or the Attack command + certain target when aiming at certain opponent.
Also what’s the oe3 supposed to mean?
solid gate
Hehe. Jinxed. Also you mean T25 AT or something? What tank?
solid gate
Ah
strange thicket
Is it the turretless one?
tacit flare
yes
solid gate
The E4 is the one that is outclassed now.
tacit flare
how so
the E3 is so slow compared to all the other TDs and the reload is a bit much for a tank that only does like 2/3 or so the damage that a jg or grille does
strange thicket
E3 has better armor than E4 and is actually better lmao
E4 is just irrelevant with that tumor
Also didn't the E3 have something like 640 alpha or what which is equal to grille
tacit flare
damage is similar, but the speed is so slowwww, and E4 in general sucks
aside from that it has a turret
lyric oriole
E 100 Also has a Turret, and better armor, etc. E4 Is just sad and needs a serious overhaul
solid gate
Thoughts on the Jgpz. E 100?
solid gate
Heavily armored td. expect to play close to the fighting. trade effectively with heavies, learn to sidescrape and hulldown to thicken the relative armor of your turret cheeks
strange thicket
also wiggle
and don't go brawl with mediums cuz once they see you you will not see them again or will get yoloed so you need hard cover if you wanna go with meds and lights
solid gate
always be aware of the enemy mediums and lights and where they could be headed and where they are currently. if theyre hulldown, HE it. 300 or 400 is better than 0. wiggling is key. you have the second biggest gun in the game and can make or break a game depending on where you put it, so pick your targets wisely.
strange thicket
going with heavies is the ideal way for JgpzE100
solid gate
^^^. only go medium route if you have substantial backup, at least two friendly meds and lights. and thats only in very situational situations.
Thanks guys, I'm on that Jagdtiger grind rn. 👍
hollow notch
The e4 is one of the best peekaboomers
strange thicket
peekaboomers what
hollow notch
You peek, you boom, you hide
strange thicket
peakaboo or something you mean lol
onyx venture
Shoot and scoot
opal owl
wait for jagdtiger buff, bet wg will overbuff it
next solstice
They’re only gonna buff the armor. Likely it’ll receive the same upper front player as the Tiger II did
proud crag
Damn matilda reload speed is like lightning
solid gate
@proud crag Have you tried the Crusader?
glass epoch
Crusader OP lol
solid gate
ey ad italian and add the centauro 🙂
hollow belfry
@solid gate Italian mediums are in the game, wich is mainly WW2 themed. The centauro wich is post-1980s has barely anything to do in it
magic ledge
Is there m1 ambrams in the game xP
@proud crag no
solid gate
heres my matilda remake
magic ledge
roblocc
solid gate
yes
broken turtle
should i go for panther?
hollow belfry
@broken turtle yes
It leads to the E 50 M and the Panther itself is a very good tank
not the fastest T7 medium, but it’s got decent dpm with laser pen and accuracy
solid armor aswell
magic ledge
How to stock LTTB?
hard nexus
engine, then gun
magic ledge
No need for tracks?
fast compass
Eventually you should get the tracks. But as a light you need the engine. And use the second gun.
broken sentinel
I really should give the LTTB another go. I skipped over it to get to the Lightweight but now I feel the urge to learn more about it
solemn void
Churchill 3 best tank
solid gate
Why don't they add this vehicle
frozen mural
Cus we dont like it
rapid orchid
Bc it is not a tank
hardy sparrow
Wheeled tanks? Hell no
solid gate
@magic ledge I have lttb to, if you play as medium tank is better to have second gun gun, better aim time and depresion (-8 is good). But if you play very agressive you should pick 3 gun because u have better accuracy in move and better reloading so you have bigger chance of winning 1 vs 1
rapid orchid
Wheeled tank=Armored car
solid gate
Lttb is not almost whell tank? xD Good armor, super speed.
rapid orchid
Lttb = super flanker
solid gate
I play LTTB like whell tank, aggresive spot+free shots
Kpfpz 70 should be modified with ATGM also in game
viral lodge
That had already been talked about a lot.
civic fiber
Buff BC25T pls. it's just not competitive in the current meta + atgms
solid gate
MBT 70 doesn’t necessarily need missiles. What it does need is a better turret armor wise. It’s not bad but against tier 10s the turret is useless as far as I can tell. Maybe reduce the reload time a bit too.
near thunder
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reef field
which is better WZ-121 or WZ-113?
dapper panther
check it at blitzstars
reef field
thx
solid gate
Guys you do know that’s the same guy who stepped down in #tank-balance-discussion after he got called out on his missile bs it’s best not to take him seriously
hushed shadow
Oh right
solid gate
I never stepped down, I told what was my idea some times before and you and the other guy gave me constantly the clown and various bad reactions at which I replied the same way, given the rudeness of both of you guys. You think I say bs judging only by wr. I am average, certainly not the best and not expert as probably are you, but sure I am not stupid. I gave you facts, and you turn them down just because you don't like them. Again, I repropose it because it's not you who decide, but WG. The same way does the Vindicator buff guy.
kind bluff
because it is a bad idea
Missiles are already hated on two tanks and now you want to add more
The Kpf was already good before it does not need any adjustment
solid gate
Then remove missile to every tank, or only to T92E1, the most problematic of the two light tanks. But Kpfpz used them as you can see. Moreover, Sheridan has the short barrel gun and shouldn't even use APCR, because that's the reason Kpfpz mounts a longer barrel
robust dirge
Honestly as a Sheridan player i would rather have standard heat than a missle
kind bluff
oh YES since T-62A has a 115mm in real life let’s give it a BIG GUN in BLITZ
solid gate
@robust dirge another good idea, same as T49 and probably it should be wise to even give its same HE alpha. My concept is, Kpfpz is the most natural candidate to missile, is the 1st to decide on. Then come the others
fast compass
Atgm+decently strong armour is a big NO GO
kind bluff
bro idk what you thinking but this is game first realism second....
And a strong tank getting missiles is a very unnecessary and just straight up terrible decision
slender cliff
@solid gate the sheridan can fire antitank guided missiles
solid gate
Ok, and I accept your point of view, even if I think Kpfpz is an average tank
@slender cliff yes, and so the Kpfpz 70
The same Shillelagh missiles
kind bluff
I think since Vulcan from Valkyria Chronicles is a boss tank we should give it 3000hp right bc that’s what it did in real life
low elk
^
slender cliff
But it was highly unconventional for the sheridan to do so
solid gate
@kind bluff it doesn't exist...
kind bluff
Dude the entire point just went over your head
low elk
nah someone random on the internet is more credable than wikipedia (SATIRE)
solid gate
Ok
kind bluff
Since Leo 1 has smoke nade launchers let’s implement that in the game and give it literal mad games invisibility in regular battles
slender cliff
Giving the Vulcan 3000hp would ruin game balance
kind bluff
what? Would it? I don’t think so, it was meant to do that
slender cliff
@kind bluff play wt
solid gate
Since you said the real life thing, the 1st part of the concept is irrelevant, and missiles are already in game, unlike the smoke launchers.
Anyway, ok, that is your idea about Kpfpz 70, no need to make a point the finger game. It's fine
slender cliff
I already knew the kpf and sheridan could fire atgms
@solid gate and idk why you are bringing up past irrelevant events
If you don’t want a finger game
solid gate
I proposed my point of view, simply. It's a normal thing. There was no need to be rude like someone was
slender cliff
Ok, so leave it in the past and forget about it
solid gate
Yeah, it's better
solid gate
If you’re going to bring up T49 while talking about missiles and real life 2 points:
- T49 was attempt to upgun the M41.
- T49 didn’t use missiles nor did the XM551 Test Bed.
From what I found the XM551 TB didn’t use the missiles because the missiles weren’t ready yet. Still they tested the turret and gun on a M41 hull before they got the Sheridan and the missiles both ready for tests and use.
Never said i wanted missiles on T49, and I know it was not capable of shooting them. I said Kpfpz was
Well for realism the T49 should be the Bulldog stock and T49 fully upgraded. XM551 Test Bed should be a separate tank as it was (more or less) a separate project.
Plus I saw people mention that Cadillac Gage had another idea to give the M41 a 90mm which is the M41 90mm gun from the M48 tank. So if you want to combine tanks that would be a better idea.
Also what would be wrong with giving T-62A a 115mm? Only 15mm larger than the gun it has. It’s not like you’d be giving it a heavy tank gun. Granted it would be only 5mm less in size/caliber than the E5 and 215b’s guns. Though with other factors in the current state of the T-62A it would require nerfs to other areas.
Lastly fake tanks could get buffs but Wargaming seems to want to leave them be. More or less anyway.
I think the same way about the the Bulldog and T-62A, but not on fake tanks buff, they are a bit of a pain imo, except for some like Predator and Vindicator
Except Predator and Vindicator. Those ones suck for fake tanks.
A few of the fake tanks from games kinda suck. I know some would say they should suck since they are fake but I disagree.
Those are the ones I’m suggesting could be buffed. Not ones like Dracula and Lycan. They’re fine as is.
@tacit flare E3 got buffs such as making that cupola hard to pen and they did buff it’s mobility to some degree. E4 they have not touched.
slender cliff
They are fine. We don’t want anymore overpowered non tech tree tanks
solid gate
Well, also Vindicator and Predator now sometimes are sold for money, same way as Smasher, and this deserves a good HE nerf at least, not counting the monstrous 250 HEAT pen it has and Vindicator lacks, even being a weaker fixed gun with almost no depression to speak of, and very slower also
Ah, T-62A might not can use the 115mm because the rifling was removed from the 100mm gun to make it. Hence it became a smoothbore gun. Smoothbore guns are not allowed.
@slender cliff I disagree. I’m not asking for them to be buffed to arguably OP status like the Smasher but the Predator and Vindicator are jokes. No point in playing them. Pretty sure they probably don’t suck as much in the game/universe they came from as they do in Blitz. Heck even the Valkyria Chronicles tanks aren’t that impressive. I know they are fake but come on. That doesn’t mean they have to be no fun. We’re to play tanks for fun not to rage because they suck fake or concept or real.
Also btw I heard wargaming confirmed kpz 70 will not be receiving atgms
https://telegra.ph/EHksklyuzivnye-otvety-razrabotchikov-04-03 I can’t translate these questions
And as for the kpz being able to fire the missiles it was noted the autoloading mechanism would damage the casings often
And no I was not referring to your kpz fiasco I was referring to you insanely deciding the Sheridan and T92 should receive nerfs that would encourage missile spam
dense minnow
Sign this petition for the removal of ATGMs from Blitz: http://chng.it/c4ZQWbPBcK
solid gate
In the near future, that means we have to simply wait until new tanks make Kpfpz 70 powercreeped. Ok, at least there's still a probability
viral lodge
Kpf is fine, it’s a well balanced tank (a rarity) at most maybe give it 1-2 more depression and maybe buff the HE damage slightly.
I own the Kpf and in no way do I want it to get ATGMs
solid gate
The ATGMs would ruin the tank tbh in a way
Kpz can’t react fast enough to use them properly unlike a normal heat round
viral lodge
It would be weird
solid gate
Then I sign the petition myself
Maybe only Sheridan should use them, but certainly not T92E1
viral lodge
The game would be best without them, it doesn’t help that the tanks they put them on are OP even without the ATGMs
low elk
my hitrate with normal APCR on ATGM tanks: 80%
my hitrate with missiles: 40%
solid gate
I'm getting used to the P43 bis
Find alright but armor
I what I expected for a Tier 6 medium
solid gate
hah, did not know it was that hard to aim up and then at an enemy vehicle, i have no idea how u only got 40% hitrate
slender cliff
@solid gate its two less pay2win tanks in the game so it’s fine
solid gate
@slender cliff Pay to win is subjective to be honest.
By that I mean a really good player could just not buy any tanks and use only tech tree tanks and still be good. A bad player can buy even the most OP tanks and still suck. So pay to win is subjective. Depends on the player still.
slender cliff
@solid gate it’s basically like the is-6 which isn’t a good tank, and 40%ers just buy it so they can tier jump.
solid gate
Even a Smasher is not a pay to win tank if the player playing it isn’t good with the tank. For example they use only AP in it or shoot AP even if they have HE in the loadout and bounce on a tank with better dpm. Not that a skilled player won’t forget to switch ammo but they are less likely than a “noob.”
slender cliff
My point is that the game is better without prems people pay for to shortcut the game or do stupid rerolls with
solid gate
@dense minnow posting it once is enough
But buying even a tank such as a WZ-120-1G FT (which is a tank people call OP) doesn’t guarantee a win. I have that tank and I’ve lost in it. It’s now an impervious TD even though it is strong.
Eh, stupid people will try to shortcut the game anyway by buying the “tech tree” premiums such as the IS-6 you mentioned. Pay to win still somewhat depends on the player though. All I’m saying.
slender cliff
I’m only addressing people who start their acc with a prem or a collectible which is quite shockingly common in the player base. When I said vindicator and predator are fine where they are, i meant that Im just glad that these prems aside from the others don’t have any overpowering statistics. That also agrees with your theory of player skill @solid gate
kind bluff
I started with a tier 8 premium before I had a tech tree tier 7 and now look at me I’m 22k battles and 60% wr
People do what they want with their money sure it’s not always the smartest decision but it’s not up to anyone else to decide that
solid gate
Well I don’t like the Predator and Vindicator they way they are. Even a unicum wouldn’t play the things very often because they suck that much. Not fun tanks. If Wargaming wanted to give us fake tanks, fine. But imho just because it is fake doesn’t mean it has to be horrendous to play and therefore not fun.
Well Predator almost has a good gun and almost has decent armor but almost is not quite there. Vindicator is best not touched except for in like Uprising.
kind bluff
^ I agree everytime I see them in game they’re a complete joke no matter who plays it
slender cliff
I personally own the vindicator and I don’t have any issues with it. I blocked countless shots with its front and I have a 55% wr in it
Im not a super unicum so there is obviously an issue lol
solid gate
I only played it in Uprising. It can be a bit fun in that mode once you get some of the stuff. Otherwise it is a big derpy gun with no gun depression and horrible armor except at least most of the front. And that’s only thanks to the plow. Also the thing is slow as heck so speed boost would be a must. Especially for making it traverse faster.
slender cliff
And I mean if these tanks are horrendous, don’t buy them! Just be glad you don’t have to grind through a bad tank in a tech tree
solid gate
All tech tree tanks are bad to grind. Though some are worse than others.
slender cliff
I meant the ones which are still terrible although fully upgraded
solid gate
I mean grind for the modules. Something I don’t do anymore.
PS: My first tank on my ITC_Tanker account was a premium which I did not buy. T23E3 which dropped from Daily Container.
Oh and I have been grinding tanks but sometimes may go jump into a premium/collector I have. Grinding for the next tank can get boring.
fleet berryBOT
Dimitrov#2399 has been warned.
solid gate
Well I really don’t like people who are new and inexperienced buying premiums either tbh. Also don’t like that Wargaming did update 5.5 and streamlined everything. Plus now we got x5 certificates you can buy. People be rushing up the lines faster than I did back in the day and sucking even more. They aren’t ready for these tanks but they get them anyway. It’s ridiculous. Now is when we truly need skill based MM. I don’t care if I have to wait longer to get into a battle. I’d rather have a fairer more balanced battle than battles that last only 2-3 minutes and often ends up 6/7 to 0.
slender cliff
Really? <@&481447501690568709>
solid gate
What? We cannot say crap now?
slender cliff
Yeah we have limited rights
solid gate
...
Well then. Anyway my last paragraph stands as a major point.
Did we seriously get pinged over "crap"...
slender cliff
@solid gate i was warned for saying the word
solid fractal
You were not
solid gate
@solid gate and for the record 5.5 was a wise move for the long term life of the game and "skill" based matchmaking would be atrocious.
Wait another message was deleted. What the hay went wrong?
slender cliff
Then what @solid fractal
solid gate
The only vehicle I use in Tier 3 starting from 5.5 is the Panzer III, and M3 Lee and D.W.2 in Tier 4, the only vehicles to still have 160 alpha on their 75 mm guns on that Tier
D.W. 2 still has 160 alpha on it’s 75mm eh? If so that’s awesome.
solid fractal
@slender cliff I am not discussing the warn and you should stop that too
solid gate
runs over car with my tank
@solid gate yes, but at the cost of having around 11 sec of reload
slender cliff
That’s legit what he was doing
solid gate
M3 Lee, on the other hand, even being a medium tank with fixed gun on the front right side, reloads in about 7.8 seconds
The warn came after he said “wg’s crap” which made it appear he got warned over the word crap or something like that. I don’t know what he said wrong as I didn’t see anything he said wrongly. And I was reading what he said and responding to it.
rancid shale
Nice one <@&481447501690568709> . I hope you caught the right guy 👀 lol
solid gate
@solid gate Well probably because it has that fixed gun and not good armor.
slender cliff
Hold up. That explains everything
solid gate
@solid gate on the paper, yes, but I get troll bounces sometimes
Eh, it never really did bounce much of anything back when I played it. Back when it was tech tree tank.
slender cliff
Yeah the pz3 and dw2 have the worst armor. Everyone just auto aims and pen you
solid gate
@solid gate it's still that same, I think, but when you use the side with the gun, you get some nice bounces
Was glad when I sold M3 Lee every time. Terrible design for a pure tank on tank scenario which is what this game is about.
Eh, M4 is much better than the Lee.
slender cliff
If only it’s 37mm could work
solid gate
Honestly at that tier I’d rather use the 37mm over the 75mm.
slender cliff
Rephrase that lol
solid gate
@slender cliff Panzer III is also capable of bouncing 75 mm when angled
Well either have preferential mm in that case or reserve the 75mm for the well armored targets.
slender cliff
@solid gate you will find it to be super rare to bounce in that tank. A-20s will tear you apart
solid gate
But realistically I’m not getting M3 back even if they sell it. Hate that tank.
slender cliff
Trust me I’ve played it and I prefer the tier 3 by miles
solid gate
@slender cliff indeed is not often, but for a Tier III tank, it's quite a feat
A-20 isn’t scary man. Not since they removed the pow pow pow gun.
slender cliff
Not scary if they are bots lol
solid gate
I’ll tell you what should scare the newbies. A good player in a B1.