more hp to farm
#vehicles-discussion
spice ivy
zinc condor
Harder tier 9 grind
candid harbor
@zinc condor as wg stated, they will make further changes to lower tiers depending on their performance
zinc condor
So basically buff for everyone?
next solstice
Nerf that missle turning speed
spice ivy
the fact that there are two of em on the enemy team scares me
just how many of these things are there in the average matchmaking queue
candid harbor
@spice ivy I don't see them as often as they used to
@next solstice and buff penetration to 800mm
spice ivy
so its either a coincidence or two troll tooners?
candid harbor
xD troll tooners
spice ivy
hey those dudes are just as terrifying as the unicorn tooners
candid harbor
i m not in toon
spice ivy
So, whats yer verdict on the new light tanks so far?
candid harbor
T92 needs more nerf on armour, gun handling could use bit too
Sheridan is strong
wild gulch
Nightmare is available to get every Halloween correct?
hard nexus
only been let out once, was never any suggestion it would be out again
solid gate
Ok WZ-111-1G FT sucks.
lyric oriole
WZ-111-1G FT is actually pretty decent. Neither gun is difficult to use, and the mobility isn't fantastic but the armor is pretty strong, about on par tier for tier with Obj. 268, slightly better IMO.
Also the 130mm cannon does 10% more damage with its HE shells compared to other 12.8cm and 130mm Cannons at 660, instead of 600.
solid gate
No. The armor needs a buff. Also can we just get rid of the BL-10 gun on ISU? That thing has way too much pen for tier 8.
I cannot win worth a darn with WZ-111-1G FT. Partly because idiot teammates. Also the armor is only on the casemate yet the hull plate is hard to hide. Stupid seeing as how it’s a big sluggish though not the slowest TD.
candid harbor
@solid gate why are you proposing bl 10 removal when it has been for years and now we even have tanks with armour to give it a slight challenge?
solid gate
Eh, just ticked off about it hurting me and teammates. Stupid thing has always been a scary gun to go against.
Even other TDs are useless against it as they cannot punch as hard as it can.
magic ledge
Any chance the FV 4005 Stage II will come to the game?
candid harbor
@magic ledge isn't it already here? with different gun
sacred cargo
Here in the game is the FV4005. FV4005 Stage II equip a 183mm gun (same in War thunder)
candid harbor
@sacred cargo but players hate 182.99mm hesh rounds
solid gate
@sacred cargo Actually ours is the Stage II but with a different gun than the real life one because the backlash of the 183mm.
The Stage I had a open top mount that couldn’t turn 360 degrees. In real life though the Stage II could turn the “barn” turret 360 degrees. I don’t know about in game though.
Stage I:
Stage II:
candid harbor
dis one has 120mm
unlike chad 123mm in blitz
crystal hare
on MT-25 do I run the first or second autoloader
candid harbor
autoloader with better penetration
solid gate
Yeah but the gun is made up. The FV4005 never mounted a 123mm autoloader.
uncut tide
Which is the best tier 10 Tank?
civic terrace
Is4
low elk
the Comet
quiet pond
thanks
visual jolt
Is the AMX AC 48 at least decent?
I’m on the AC 46 and it and the V39 have been horrible
woeful kestrel
Well,it’s a preview for the foch and the 155
I can’t say much about it cuz I don’t have a lot of experience with them
fast compass
Ac 48 is not bad. Low dpm does limit it. But it works better than the ac46 whennit comes to frontal armour. There are 3 weakspots on top which are really weak.
woeful kestrel
Cupolas never helped anyone to be honest
fast compass
Those weakspots are not even troll like the ones on foches. They are guaranteed pen
frigid compass
cupolas helped irl and werent much of a weakspot
fast compass
Extra points for ac48 to finally look like a sportscar after a bunch of ugly tanks
frigid compass
tanks arent even supposed to look cool as its not a requirement
but they usually end up looking nice
woeful kestrel
I mean,cupolas never helped in the game,cuz in real life you wouldn’t aim for the cupola on an enemy tank,even tho it wouldn’t really damage the vehicle
strange thicket
anyone have some tips on the IS 5 i can't seem to use the armor on that
tame jungle
Play an is3 🗿
lyric oriole
Try to play Hulldown when possible exposing only the turret. I am aware it's difficult with the limited Gun Depression but when possible it will work.
Also try Reverse Sidescraping in the IS-5. (This is a video for IS-3 but still it explains how reverse Sidescraping works, Skip to 5:50)
strange thicket
@lyric oriole i was in a hull down position got pentrated by an m6a2e1
lyric oriole
It has Cupola's, it has weakspots, the turret isn't Invincible
You can't sit still, you should be making small movements to throw off your opponents aim
strange thicket
oh alright
ionic nebula
Treue
plucky merlin
Why is the panther/m10 so bad?
low elk
its not THAT bad
its a bit down but its ok
plucky merlin
Tbh in comparison to its normal counterpart it only has better gun handling
low elk
it used to be great
i personally think its ok
its not great rn but its fine
they should buff the DPM to that of the E25
plucky merlin
Agree to that rn it is way better to get the normal panther instead of the m10 but hey i got it out of the t7 crate...
neat nimbus
should i skip this one?
alpine notch
☝️
neat nimbus
how?
solid gate
@frigid compass You have a point. Tanks aren’t meant to look cool but most come off that way. Still there have been some stupid looking tanks irl. (And even stupider looking ones in this game and perhaps other games.)
But why are cupolas a weakness in game when they aren’t in real life? I would get it on tanks that are hard to flank but on some tanks cupolas being a weakness is dumb.
frigid compass
because wargaming is too lazy to balance tanks in another way
low elk
OOF
solid gate
Wow..... -_-
I think though the French TDs would look and perform better without the stupid range finders and cupolas. Especially the ACs. I know they buffed both Fosh TD’s cupolas and range finders but that’s silly. Realistically they should not be weaknesses and the tanks should become slower.
onyx venture
By far the most shots I blocked with the T28 prototype
solid gate
I blocked 3 shots from a dumb T28 Defender in my Ace game where I was playing T28 Prototype.
@onyx venture Did you Ace it with that?
onyx venture
Would of been nice but no, I would have had to do at least 4k damage if I want to Ace with this vehicle
My team also lost that match rip
solid gate
@onyx venture Funny. I Aced it with only 2,599 damage. I think that’s what it was. But it was a Supremacy game and I got a base. Also think I may have gotten assistance damage for taking the track off a Löwe.
tulip sail
@solid gate while irl cupolas aren't aimed for they still can cause massive damage to a tank if shot and penned
solid gate
@tulip sail Um ok but what does that have to do with why they are weak points in the game? Especially stupid and pointless on slow tanks (especially TDs) that are easy to flank.
And I don’t see how it would do massive damage to the tank. Well maybe to modern ones with modern rounds if you hit and penetrated them. But WW 2 and early Cold War?
tulip sail
Because theres reasoning behind it first you're gonna need some way of damaging a tank from the front in case of high armoured tanks and since the cupola was never al that heavy armoured it makes sense. Also if you pen the cupola the Tc is dead which is the most important crew member especially in ww2 and cold war as most the other crew simply don't have the visibility to command a tank and if the tank hasn't a radio (as most early ww2 tanks didnt ) they would lose direction.
Then if you take in count of APHE what I've read happening is itll pen the cupola or the top of a turret and detonate after the pen which an explosion inside is not a good thing
solid gate
Alrighty then. That explains that. But they weren’t aimed for because it’s easier to aim for sides and rear? Does training have anything to do with it?
As for in game cupolas as a weakness is just stupid for some tanks which are too slow to not get flanked and shot in those even easier to hit sides and rears.
tulip sail
No it's just a tiny target you're shooting at something maybe 2ft tall and a foot or 2 wide at 500meters irl you aim center mass as most tank sights were 2x -4x it's a waste to aim there even if we are talking modern.
And constancy matters in a game like this it makes perfect sense and I'm gonna apologize a head of time bc I cant seem to word this next but without seeming condescending but I assure you I'm not trying to be your not supposed to sit in one spot exposing your self to fire keep near cover so you dont need to be and if you have to used your allies as bait and make sure their the easy target not you
solid gate
Yeah, no. I’m talking about the large cupolas such as AC 46, Tiger P, and such cupolas. Heck even the T95E2 is kinda big. Machine gun cupolas must have had a point in real life but in this game they are stupid, ugly, and pointless. Small cupolas are better.
tulip sail
Oh I also forgot to mention irl there are many ways of mission killing a tank without penning it
Those are what I was talking about the tiger 1 and it's cupola is 2 x 2 iirc
solid gate
Not saying I sit in one place but even moving around doesn’t seem to do much to negate huge weak cupolas.
ripe helm
You know what I wanna see Japanese heavies I'm down for new TD's but the heavies have existed in pc and console longer
tulip sail
Also just saying something is stupid isn't that good of an argument if you could explain why you think so thad be better
solid gate
Well yeah. Even in pictures of Tiger I you cannot really see the cupola unless you know what you’re looking for. But the Tiger P (at least in game) on the other hand has a stupidly big one.
sacred cargo
Big cupolas are big weak spots, but big cupolas are big chance of spot enemys (Maus is one of the best for that, since the tank have the optics on the turret top)
tulip sail
But most of the mg cupolas are on tanks that have extremely good turrets so if they are hull down that makes there only weak point the cupola wich its better to have that instead of an invincible enemy (I'm exaggerating)
solid gate
I’m saying it’s stupid because it doesn’t have to be that big for someone to stick their head up to it to use the view ports. As for machine gun cupolas they must have had a purpose irl but in game they are useless things.
tulip sail
Not really they aren't useless they serve there point very well and just so you know early tiger1s and tiger ps had the same cupola
solid gate
Heh. Except you can be hull down and get flanked and shot in the much weaker hull quite easy. Opponents who aren’t stupid aren’t going to just sit in front of a hull down strong turret tank if they have sense and the proper tank to get around the issue. Also not all hull down tanks have super strong turrets.
solid gate
Well you cannot shoot the machine gun at enemy tanks (which wouldn’t do anything) so what’s the point of having a machine gun cupola over a normal cupola? What? Just because the real tank had one? But then they removed it from M48 and T110E5.
tulip sail
It's a weak point to be cautious about
That's its point
Not everything that has a point has to work in your favor
solid gate
Whatever. Hard enough to make sure you aren’t getting flanked when playing something like say Chieftain/T95 then you have to worry about people in front of you shooting that. It’s just too much.
sacred cargo
In the game, big cupolas are big weak points, but the big cupolas are the best for spot enemys. Good thing x bad thing
solid gate
Too much to keep track of with tanks like that. Too many weak points. Besides if the turret is facing wrong they can pen the side of the turret.
tulip sail
Not really especially in the chieftain/t95 if you play it ridge lining it's a nice challenge and that's where your hard cover comes in if your being flanked (your position shouldn't let you but let's say it does) you drive behind the hard cover to protect yourself from target 1 then you engage target 2
solid gate
@sacred cargo Tbh a game doesn’t have to be fully logical. Heck this game already isn’t because HP, fake tanks, and more. It’s not a sim.
tulip sail
And the fake ones they replaced it with on the m48 look atrocious
sacred cargo
Im talking about the game mechanics, not of real life
solid gate
@tulip sail Well the stupid cupola was what annoyed me most about the dang Chieftain/T95 back when I drove it. Ruined the point of hiding the dang weak hull.
tulip sail
With the gd it's a fantastic side ridgeliner
It make for easy baits especially after the buff
solid gate
@sacred cargo Well what I’m saying is since it is a game you could give any tank any view range you want in theory. Only Wargaming tries to keep the view ranges somewhat logical and suited to roles.
Well I’ve moved on from Chieftain/T95. Not my favorite tank. Would rather play a T29 or T34. Much stronger turrets as the weak spots are much harder to hit and pen on those.
tulip sail
Lol I guess we've switched since I find those too boring to play
solid gate
Eh they are slower than Chieftain but realistically not by too much. They’re much easier to hull down properly so yeah.
tulip sail
But theres no trick to playing them it's just hull down and you're fine you dont have much to think about to get it to work
solid gate
I don’t think they are boring. I’d play them if I weren’t grinding lines. Right now back on the dang WZ-111-1G FT which I had sold once already. Hated it when I first tried it. Armor seems unreliable. Maybe being too aggressive in it at times and/or not positioning it right. But I’m not going to camp in it like some dumb TD players would do.
tulip sail
I haven't played it but from looking at the stats I'd snipe in it camping is generally a waste of time
solid gate
@tulip sail No. The trick is the rocking back and forth and wiggling the dang turret so that stupid cupola doesn’t get hit. Well at least with Chieftain you have to do that crap which makes it harder for you to shoot anything yourself. T29 and T34 don’t have to do that near as much. They just hit the hull and watch the shots bounce.
tulip sail
That's with any hull down tank that's hardly a trick then
solid gate
@tulip sail Oh and with that TD Blitz Hangar recommends long range sniping highly.
tulip sail
I can definitely see that working just make sure you're moving up when needed
solid gate
Yeah that’s the part where I suck. Sniping is hard when teammates you are trying to support get in the dang way all the dang time. Plus moving up is tricky without some dang enemy sniper or lucky medium shooting you. Probably why I hate WZ-111-1G FT.
Blitz Hangar also says it’s average at 1 v 1 brawling. Don’t know how that is.
tulip sail
Only move up once you have no targets or potential targets
Keep as much cover imbetween you and potential sniper spots
If you can learn the usual sspots its helpful
solid gate
I don’t know. Maybe need more practice with the dang thing. That and 100% crew. Gah, I hate not having 100% crew. But I don’t have the gold reserves to keep spending it on crew training.
solid gate
But really there are better TDs. It looks like the WZ is around middle of the pack as far as tier 8 WRs are concerned. Wargaming’s stats chart.
tulip sail
Yeah there may be better but itll take a long while playing those to get the Chinese t9 td
solid gate
Still not sure how Ferdinand is beating every other TD by a huge margin though. Only buff it ever got was armor on those slant pieces same as Tiger P. It’s not the most mobile TD and the armor is flat so not that hard to pen. Still JP II is much worse for the average player it would seem.
tulip sail
The Ferdinand is pretty good in its role until it gets flanked but even then a skilled player can stall long enough for a ton mate to help
solid gate
Oh and I was wrong. WZ is actually like 3rd or 4th highest WR wise. JP II is on lower end but not the worst. Worst would be (unsurprisingly) the T28.
tulip sail
Though I figured the rum would be a bit higher
solid gate
Wait how is AT 15 that high? It’s not even a good TD. Slow, tons of weak points, big, low alpha, and low pen for a tier 8 TD.
With it doing that well I doubt Wargaming will buff it. cries
solid gate
Eh I hate AT 15. Tried it once before and it just got penned like butter. Gun is nice though it’s more a heavy level gun not a TD level gun but the tank itself sucks.
tulip sail
Lol its actually pretty good as a second liner
solid gate
Probably will be the last tier 8 I work on. Either it or Centurion or gags Pershing.
tulip sail
I still dont get why you dont like the persh
It does everything it needs to but let's not get into that
solid gate
Because it’s pen sucks and so does the armor. Also it was the second slowest medium until STA was added. Still third slowest though.
I am NOT spamming prammo with it either. That’s bull. That stuff is still costly, Pershing earns poorly, and it lowers the dpm which is already awful.
solid gate
But apparently Centurion is worse performing. But the Panther II takes the cake. Thankfully it is getting armor buff.
tulip sail
The cent is certainly interesting
solid gate
What side of a tank? Pershing is a poor flanker since it’s so big and doesn’t maintain it’s speed. Plus forget going against stinking Russian heavies with it.
tulip sail
It works fine flanking for me
solid gate
Centurion suffers from LAS (Low Alpha Syndrome). Kinda a thing among the British.
That’s why I think Crusader should be replaced by Centaur and be made a tier IV (possibly/probably collector) and Comet should be moved down as well and nerf it’s rof. In fact Comet not only has low alpha but unlike Panther it doesn’t have the pen. Centurion III should be the tier 7.
tulip sail
The crusader and comet are fine where they are though the comet is more like a light then a regular med
solid gate
A slow light then. Because 52kph isn’t really that fast for a light if you look at the actual lights. And I disagree that they are fine where they are. Crusader is just pen and that is it. It’s slow, poor armor because light tank, and low alpha. I don’t know about the dpm anymore but that’s a poor argument because Crusader dies too easily. It cannot escape once engaged with opponent unlike other lights. Crusader is utter trash.
tulip sail
Um the crusader is double the dom of the elca as well as 40 more pen the only thing the elca does better is caliber and ss alpha
solid gate
Here’s my British medium line:
IV - Crusader
V - Centaur (6pdr, 75mm, maybe 95mm howitzer)
VI - Cromwell, Comet
VII - Centurion I/III
VIII - FV4009 (cannot find too much information on it so giving it the 32pdr anti-tank gun)
IX - Centurion 7/1
X - FV4202 or Centurion Action X
sacred cargo
@solid gate just because u hate some tanks, if wargaming don't buff them or do something, Is because the average performance of the tank, shows the tank is fine right now
solid gate
@sacred cargo Not really in the case of the Centurion I mate. It’s on the low end of the chart.
And whatever. I’ll make my own tank game one day where I can decide what the heck tank goes where and how to balance them instead of drunk Wargaming staff.
tulip sail
And I'm willing to bet the cycle will continue also you cant exactly expect every tank to be the best on the charts
solid gate
Well no, you can’t. But the way the Centurion I and such are I do not like and would like to fix my own way.
The British in particular are kinda weak in certain regards which don’t allow them to perform well unless you are a super duper unicum. Which I am not and never going to be one of those. Heck only those can make the Pershing look good.
tulip sail
They may be weak in very regards but there strong in others just like every other nation of tanks
And plsaying it right does that too
viral lodge
British have 2 interesting TD lines and a decent heavy line, the higher tier meds are the only ones not performing lol, and with the new lights unless the lights get nerfed they are going to get more outdated.
(And we don’t talk about the ATs)
solid gate
Speaking of interesting British TD lines, I rly think WG should add the 183mm gun on the FV4005, sorta like an optional one.
forest bough
^
viral lodge
^ would make me play my FV4005 way more, auto loader is ok but Conway rn is way more fun.
solid gate
true, since Conway has a special HESH gun
lyric oriole
If this were an Ideal world we would have FV4005 with the 183mm gun and the Badger would straight up replace the 183
viral lodge
True
solid gate
i would be scared of that... badger is one of the most op td's in the entire game, including WoT pc
viral lodge
Would give the AT line more reason tho, and since it would be tech tree it could then be nerfed/buffed/balanced as needed.
solid gate
The AT line definitely needs to be buffed. It's complete hell as of now.
viral lodge
I’d say my main gripe for brits is the FV4005 auto loader, it’s kinda sad to go from a 640 alpha derp to an auto loader.
big paper turret doesn’t go well with auto loaders ¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
true
gentle lagoon
bring this camo for t3485
solid gate
fossil oar
Out of curiosity, what do you guys think is the best tank of WW2?
solid gate
The late war Sherman’s easily take that spot
Panther G how ever was pretty decent but came too late make a difference
gentle lagoon
@fossil oar this....hahayes
@solid gateif u take into account the production then T-34 variants might be the best
solid gate
@gentle lagoon the t34s were literal garbage the only and I mean the only positive thing about them was the sheer numbers of them and how easy they were to make
gentle lagoon
yes
solid gate
T34 76mm to 85mm failed to pen tiger 1 sides at close range
gentle lagoon
but moar da number da better isnt it
solid gate
There is strength in numbers yes
raven jacinth
Then the british come alone with their Sherman Fireflies
hm thinking about the Americans, did the Hellcat ever fought a Tiger I? And if so, could it pen
spice ivy
It was a matter of attrition
Even if you had a tank killer in your arsenal, if you couldnt sufficiently replenish your losses then the effort was for naught
solid gate
@raven jacinth the 76mm m1 could pen in the sides not frontally but that was the purpose of hellcat anyways
tender crest
I've only seen this tank once but is the SU 130 PM going to be a premium tank?
proper slate
@tender crest yes
tender crest
ok
keen parrot
do u think guys ST1 front is op its same hull as IS4 but less armore
candid harbor
@keen parrot it is easy pen
hollow belfry
It means your friend just can’t aim
fading ginkgo
candid harbor
well then aiming won't be required
spice ivy
Should i get the 8 second high dmg gun on the Chi-he for the heck of it?
Or is it just not worth 2k xp
hollow belfry
Get it
solid gate
Chi-He is the tier IV right? I don’t think the high damage gun is worth it because lower pen and I think dpm too.
lyric oriole
It's better for trading for sure but the 5.7cm gun is better
potent elbow
122mm on SU152 or 152mm?
glass crypt
if u wanna have fun go 152 if u wanna tryhard go 122
solid gate
152 wasn’t fun for me when grinding for the 122mm first time I got SU-152 so I find the 122mm much better. It’s not a “try hard” gun but a dpm gun. 152mm is just for derp.
solid gate
@solid gate @gentle lagoon JagdPanther 1 is easily the best tank of WW2, it was best TD of it's time.
A Tiger tank Took 300 shots from Russian T34s and returned when it ran out of ammo but Tigers easily ran Out of Fuel and had to be abandoned
Tiger was really good, Tiger 2 front was Imprenetable but it was easy target for Planes
solid gate
@solid gate still false jpanther still suffered the problems early panther variants had t34s had horrible quality ammunition Tiger was outdated and tiger 2 was not an easy target for planes
elfin orbit
And the obj252u could hover for 50 seconds at a time, had a top speed of 80km/h and would penetrate a maus frontally at 2km
solid gate
@elfin orbit get out
elfin orbit
Neverr! HSSSSSS
tulip sail
@solid gate source for the tiger getting hit 300 times?
gleaming wigeon
I just got some medium tanks like the PZ iv g, and idk anything about using them, i wish i knew how to use it, just at mr if someone is okey to help and awnser any questions
glass crypt
well, you dont have reliable armor, nor are you speedy, just chill out occasionally poke when you aren't focused, not the best advice but its the basics
tulip sail
Second lining is the idea
boreal shell
Support
solid gate
Grrrrr
solid gate
@gleaming wigeon The PZ IV G has the worst dpm on tier 5, has decent armor, and a kinda troll turret. It might be good to use your gun depression on the tank, and bounce some shots. Mobility is pretty good on that tank too.
gleaming wigeon
Is the meuse ( i dont know how to spell it) worth it tho?
solid gate
maus?
gleaming wigeon
The end tank after the pv iv g* also, what is a medium tank/light tank player meant to do in those tanks? ( just at me on any of my messages, i dont have anything to do for awhile but might not answer for a few hours)
I think ye
solid gate
well, the maus is a very, very good tank for armor (also if u want to learn side-scraping), and has the largest amount of hp in WoT
its hp is being buffed from 2500 to 3120 in update 6.9
however, the maus is very limited due to its mobility, and its gun is definitely not the greatest
gleaming wigeon
Dang .-.
solid gate
did u just started playing WotB?
slender cliff
You mean 3120?
solid gate
yes sry for the inaccuracy lol
slender cliff
Np mate it’s called improved assembly
solid gate
😄 thx bro
@gleaming wigeon if u just started on this game, i advise u go for a 'easier' tank to play and reach tier X, such as the KV1 lane.
gleaming wigeon
No, I started like ( dont qote me my s sense of tine is really bad) 5 years ago and got too mad at it then downloaded it again this year about a month ago and im on the tier 7 of the stug III G line ( just got it this morning(
low elk
The JPanther
solid gate
ahh ok.. jagdpanther or sturer?
gleaming wigeon
Jpanther
solid gate
kk.. for the jpanther, it has been buffed this update and now it's op, but a lot of players don't realise that. Play the JPanther as much as possible till u go to the next tier, and try to snipe and farm dmg
strange thicket
@solid gate kv1 line is not really easier he will struggle more with angling
solid gate
jpanther has a lot of dpm
@strange thicket kv1 has good armor and good gun tho, and as long as u dont show ur front plates fully, it will be easy to play
then when its time to research t6, go to kv2 first cause kv1s dpm is the worst at t6
strange thicket
@solid gate nah mate
Plus kv2 is trash compared to kv1s
low elk
KV1S has a 122 and its a mini IS
even if you dont take the 122 its still good
KV2 is for fun
solid gate
@strange thicket bruh 1300 dpm (if fully upgraded) on a t6?? im ok mate
some t4's have better dpm than that
strange thicket
Kv2 literally has worse dpm lol
And also it is not a rushing tank yo got play smart in it
low elk
KV2 has better DPM
solid gate
2452.5 DPM.. smh
strange thicket
Which gun
solid gate
tHe sToCk oNe
strange thicket
I always play the 152mm sorry my bad
solid gate
https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:R77_KV2 ohh ok lol
gleaming wigeon
Stop fighting, i dont like the kv line because its to inaccurate and im used to sniping not going close to people,
low elk
the 107 on the KV2 is suprisingly good
its great
i love it and i got a full kalobannov on it brawling against 3 teir 6 meds
solid gate
were not fighting.. just transferring info to each other lol
@low elk THEN THERE'S THE SMASHER XDDD
gleaming wigeon
Oki subject change, uh whats a good beginning light/med tank?
low elk
@solid gate Smasher players be like: Im sorry i dont speak lose
strange thicket
The stock gun is trash plus i remember it has he as standard? Lol
solid gate
i have the smasher lmao
strange thicket
@gleaming wigeon you really don't wanna get into those now but if you wanna german line is good
solid gate
@gleaming wigeon probably the american lt line.
low elk
@solid gate look on #general-blitz-discussion and see what kind of stats i got today
literally the 5th worst session ever
gleaming wigeon
Crp uhh
solid gate
@strange thicket german lt will be hard to him cuz of the armor
strange thicket
American line doesn't have that great armor either
And the pershing will make him suffer
I literally dont wanna touch it lol
But for lights yeah pick the American line
solid gate
wait wut was the american t8 lt again lol
gleaming wigeon
Oki, my friend Tyler is on Ussr tech tree tier 8 is-3 and my other friend toxic is on UK tier 4 and my last friend Johnny is on America, so you would probably like all there opinion
low elk
@solid gate not the T49
solid gate
lolol oh yeh right
@strange thicket T49 has trash armor but it has the good ol' derp gun, and the t9-10 is op at this moment
low elk
he wont get the teir 9 or ten in time
strange thicket
Yeah probably
E50M is a good tier 10 med too
@gleaming wigeon ok pick the UN line
The italian auto reloaders are good
gleaming wigeon
Auto reloaders? I play on mobile so all the tanks auto reload
low elk
no
onnes that have a clip but reload one at a time
gleaming wigeon
Oh
elfin orbit
Imagine pc players have manual load key as a handicap
tight palm
Hello there,can you tell me why the amx 30 1er prot. doesn't have the premium status?
solid gate
I forget that JPanther got buff in that place kinda behind the tracks but you can kinda shoot into without shooting the tracks. Bounces shots from T20 if you shoot it there. Gotta shoot the casemate sides.
@tight palm It’s Enriched mate.
AMX 30, 32, and 40:
strange thicket
wdym enriched? it is not a techtree tank
solid gate
@strange thicket It is enriched collector tank.
strange thicket
you mean collector status
solid gate
@strange thicket All the high tier premium/collector tanks (as far as I know) are enriched.
strange thicket
yeah any tank with collector or premium status earns more credits than regular one
but alright
solid gate
Yeah but enriched don’t earn as much as premium tanks but more than tech tree tanks. They are like mid-grounds on credit earning.
I think the next tank I’ll use is the Osorio:
languid needle
Not really, @strange thicket Amx 30-40 are pretty old from the 1970s. They are no more modern tanks since they won’t stand a chance against modern MBTs
solid gate
true
solid gate
@languid needle technically they do stand a chance but if they are given proper optics ammunition and of course crew
fringe notch
yeah any tank with collector or premium status earns more credits than regular one
but alright
@strange thicket The old tech-tree tanks that got made into collectors in 5.5 don't earn extra credits.
candid harbor
@fringe notch not every collector status tanks earn credits
here they are talking about tier 9 and 10 premium tanks, that they are not real premium tonks
cloud thistle
I have nothing to say about this thing.....
solid gate
Angry Connor makes you angry.
Osorio is modern I think. Those 3 AMXs though are a bit outdated though.
Also I’mma take any tank from late WW 1 to modern then weed out the smoothbore guns and composite armor ones. In fact probably weed out modern altogether. Anything post Cold War (1991 from what I can find) is a no go for my idea.
somber hazel
@cloud thistle stonk
candid harbor
@cloud thistle stonks big
candid harbor
hehe boi
GIANT STONKS
lyric oriole
@round carbon depends on the vehicle
HE penetration values range greatly. Generally HE shells are are good Against very lightly armored vehicles, or the rear of vehicles, innsime cases however HE cannot penetrate the rear of a vehicle
round carbon
when my nashorn get hit by kv 2.. it's explode and destroyed.
lyric oriole
KV-2 has a huge gun and Nashorn has next to no armor. You should be avoiding KV-2 in your Nashorn
round carbon
okkay.. thanks for the tips
hollow igloo
When will the Skorpion G be on sale again?
lyric oriole
Nobody knows
tulip sail
When wg wants to
hollow igloo
Love that dingy
solid gate
I am waiting for ISU-130, super great DPM with that, not counting the prammo with 530 alpha even
slender cliff
It’s nice but I don’t now why ppl are performing so bad in it
solid gate
It’s an ISU what do you think they don’t last long
slender cliff
Bc they haven’t played the 152
And it depends on how skillful the player is. ISUs can last pretty long if they can react accordingly to a situation
solid gate
ISU-152 though has much bigger alpha and has better standard penetration. Also it has equal gun arc left and right I think. 130 has weird gun arc.
wise moth
All these TDs pretty much just pale in comparison to the Skorpion G though
solid gate
I’m back to VFM 5 for now then will go back to Type 98 then on to EE-T1 Osorio.
gleaming wigeon
What do medium tank do? They flank right? ( just at me if someone is ok to answer my question(s)
tulip sail
@gleaming wigeon they are the jack of all trades they can do anything ok to good but theres something better in every specific regard (theres also several types of mediums
gleaming wigeon
Mhm? :0
tulip sail
Some do great in flanking while others dont most can play second line and some even front line
gleaming wigeon
What about pz iv g/ and pz v/iv?
tulip sail
Those are decent flankers and good second liners
solid gate
Die Vickers Fake! blows it to bits (Ok I’m done harping on that after this.)
solid gate
Guys
Please I need help
What is the best TD tank I have to buy it, after JPanther? Ferdinand or JPanther II?
I've running out of my mind
golden birch
JP2
solid gate
I am serious guys
golden birch
I literally told u
solid gate
Eh JP II is underperforming according to the charts. Though it’s got some that are slightly to way below it.
Also here’s a crazy fact. WZ-111-1G FT has a stronger lower plate than upper plate. The casemate being 180mm base generally, upper hull is 100mm, and lower plate is 120mm. Tell me, how does that make any sense?
golden birch
So does the tiger II
solid gate
@solid gate then choose Ferdinand
It's fine
@solid gate Heh. Already did that and unlocked JT.
Huh? JT?
What is that?
Ouhh you mean @solid gate Jagdtiger?
Then how about the perform of Ferdinand?
@solid gate Yeah. I shortened it to JT.
@solid gate Ferdinand is the highest WR TD at tier 8 right now. Surprising seeing as how it only got 1 small armor buff which didn’t do too much for the armor. Otherwise same old Ferdinand it always was.
@solid gate hehe Jerman always
All right thanks for it
@solid gate You’re welcome.
hoary verge
Excited for when the Japanese TD's come, have to play these tanks which for me are meh
hoary verge
This tank for example, it's far too slow for the amount of amour it has, and the gun takes a long time to reload, probably should be buffed
solid gate
@hoary verge lol
hoary verge
Yeah
solid gate
You have a hundred free XP, why u still grind that tank?
hoary verge
I only spend xp on unlocking modules, so I don't mind playing tanks when they are fully equipped until I have enough for the next tank
solid gate
@hoary verge Ouhh so you mean you don't wanna play tank with a stock modules right?
hoary verge
Yeah exactly, but even if the tank is bad or I don't like it I'll still play it until I have enough earned exp for the next tank
solid gate
Okay sounds great
spice ivy
I mean JP tanks do compensate alot by having that sweet sweet 15 degrees of gun depression
Idk why i find those numbers so worthwhile
fervent bobcat
Okay guys, I honestly do not know what consumables to put on my Caenarvon
Like, I know there are those two consumables but I don't know if it is worth just having one repair kit.
civic terrace
@spice ivy only the sturer has 15 degree of gun depression
candid harbor
ummm
xD bot deleted last message
decker max has 15° too @civic terrace
spice ivy
Im pre sure the tier IV-VI/VII?? Japanese tanks had atleast 15 degrees of gun depression
Feel free to refute me on that
candid harbor
they have 6 or 8 or 10° (on chi ri)
spice ivy
Yeah but the point stands that these tanks compensate at the very least with their ability to poke and harass
I witnessed a game where-in a Chi-Nu was able to whittle a M6 down despite having like 74 hp left
Partly due to camo and good repositioning
zinc condor
The old Japanese otsu have something around 22°
jade nimbus
Is the T20 as good as the Easy 8, I like my Shermans well done
I want to know if T20 can be played like a Sherman
raven jacinth
Solution: Don't play KV-2
hollow belfry
It’s useless, wich is what it’s supposed to be. Leave it as it is
strange thicket
well irl it was stupid and useless
hollow belfry
There is a reason they stopped producing it after less than 400 units and made 50 000 T-34s
spice ivy
It was made to bust bunkers.... When they were retreating from the Germans...
hollow belfry
^
spice ivy
Would've been more effective on the offensive but these things had since been rendered obsolete by the time the Soviets regained ground
strange thicket
uh no they wouldn't do any good
the turret is just too heavy and stupid
hollow belfry
@solid gate just play something else, there are better and/or funnier tanks at T6
strange thicket
@solid gate it is still a decent tank you can shoot AP in it
or load premium shells with credits
spice ivy
I've killed these things just by having them poke a bit of their massive turrets
I swear those things are a liability for em KV 2 players
strange thicket
yall talking situations a kv-2 player wouldn't allow them happening
i still bust tanks in a kv-2 but you need to have someone with you
hollow belfry
You are implying the average KV-2 driver has a brain, wich is false @strange thicket
spice ivy
I still feel bad for pushing that KV 2 player tho, stole his kill and made him splash HE on himself
legitimately felt bad
strange thicket
well.. that is kinda true tbh
i never really got the hang of it untill i hit tier 8 and played there for a good while
just bought vk28.01 just to have fun with the derp gun too
spice ivy
Tier VII-VIII imo is one of the best tiers to practice and get a feel for WoTB
hollow belfry
The derp gun was good on a Hetzer. Not sure I would play it in a T6
strange thicket
you will have to fire heat
strange thicket
but your mobility allows you to flank
it will suck if you are low tier tho
i think it is the same gun on the nightmare? not sure
raven jacinth
T-46
spice ivy
Being lower tiered always sucks
Because there will always be that one tank in full red that is nigh impervious to all conventional rounds
Unless you flank
spice ivy
I mean TDs sorta stand a chance against em but you gotta aim for spots like tumor-like cupolas, cheeks, whatnot
strange thicket
just got the is-5
having apcr as standard ammo sucks
you almost low roll everytime
but i think the shell velocity is rewarding?
hollow belfry
IS-5 isn’t the best T8 heavy. But it’s cheap
spice ivy
Are high tiered tanks usually like that?
strange thicket
wdym
hollow belfry
Most T10 meds have APCR as standard ammo if that’s what you mean
spice ivy
Prammo rounds as conventional
zinc condor
If you hate the 152 mm, why don't you just use the 107 it's my favourite gun for the KV-2
strange thicket
cuz that is a sin
hollow belfry
E25 has APCR as default ammo
and KV-2 with 107 means exposing yourself more often with a slow and unarmored tank
spice ivy
I feel bad for killing that E-25 then...
Poor dude tried to flank me as a Jpanther and ended up bouncing all his shots
strange thicket
APCR HEAT AP are all types of ammo
there is no classification making apcr and heat prammo
raven jacinth
KV-2 with 107 ZiS-6 has the 4th Best DPM
strange thicket
it depends on what you get for the gun
you got ap as prammo for kv2
hollow belfry
Jagdpanther is OP and exp required to ace it is really high
strange thicket
i aced it like
spice ivy
The exp peak is usually at around 1800+
hollow belfry
carried a 2vs5 in cqc, 3,7k dmg and 5 kills
strange thicket
2 times
hollow belfry
still 1st class tho
strange thicket
yeah 2 times acing jagtiger
but that was me spamming the tank during rolling spring
hollow belfry
Ended up in a 1v1 against a full HP tiger
strange thicket
how did he even last with his full hp
hollow belfry
wich finally bounced on me while I had 75 hps left. Then I finished him
Praise the gun mantlet
spice ivy
A good Jpanther face hugs his enemy
Unless its a SU, facehugging doesn't work against em
strange thicket
we lost the game cuz we got flanked from both sides
hollow belfry
It works
strange thicket
JP2? face hugging?
hollow belfry
killed a low hp SU when he splashed HE at me while facehugging
strange thicket
which JP
zinc condor
Which Su?
hollow belfry
The T7. Arguably one of the best TDs in its tier
strange thicket
how is it even possible to face hug a low profile tank in a jp2 if you meant it
zinc condor
There two tier 7 SU
hollow belfry
It was a SU-152
strange thicket
oh ok
spice ivy
The regular JP
hollow belfry
I said « Jagdpanther » btw. Not « Jagdpanther II ». Just f***** read
spice ivy
Yeet
Anywho, the Jpanther is solid. Really is. I hope the side armor nerf wont nullify its effectiveness in battle
I aced the damn thing like 3 times, its that good
I have an attachment to this beautiful beast
hollow belfry
Nah the frontal armor will remain as good
spice ivy
But ig it means i'll need to watch my flanks more often no?
hollow belfry
Yep
Anyways, you should already have been watching out for flanks because the casemate sides are still 50mm
spice ivy
Yeah but usually the flanking tanks end up bouncing whenever i turn just a bit to meet them head on
Like 60% of the time it ends up bouncing
I can see why they needed a nerf
hollow belfry
How can 165mm of side armor not bounce when angled? Lol
spice ivy
Also i'd like to know what its like to be a tank being facehugged by a Jpanther, never knew what its like to be on the receiving end of one of its best gimmicks
Hope i find a player that will do me dirty like that someday
hollow belfry
Idk. I’m afraid to play in T6 after playing the post-buff Jagdpanther
wise moth
@spice ivy Depends on the tank, and since JPanther's armor is highly dependent on angle, facehugging can seriously backfire against tanks with decent gun depression
spice ivy
Most of the other Jpanthers i meet dont even realize their troll armor potential so they usually stay back
And yeah i learned that the hard way with some tanks
wise moth
Like here's a T20 fighting a JPanther normally
spice ivy
Look at all that red.
wise moth
And this is a T20 facehugging a JPanther
spice ivy
I mean i do a bit of a wiggle here and there just to be sure but im not sure if its really effective
wise moth
It's hard to wiggle in a facehug, and if you do, it's not hard for the enemy to keep the angle flush against you
hollow belfry
Now wiggle and ram him before the first shot, he’ll panic and lose it’s full potentitial
spice ivy
Ive had facehug attempts backfire with smart meds using my charge to get around, then from there on im defenseless
wise moth
It's usually better just to play hulldown from mid-long range
spice ivy
@hollow belfry i had a poor VK be the victim of just that, he didnt know what to do the second our hulls collided
wise moth
It's true that you can bully at close range if needed, but just because you can doesn't mean you should
spice ivy
Yeah, even with my experience in the Jpanther im still a tad wet behind the ears
Im always down for a good brutal learning experience in battle if it helps me improve
wise moth
Turretless vehicles are less efficient at close ranges, which is a fact of life
hollow belfry
The Jagdpanther has a non negligible fear factor for same tier meds or lower tier tanks in general. It’s fast. It has armor and a good gun. If a JP with half a brain catches you in a T6 tank, you will probably die
wise moth
No amount of armor will stop that fact
strange thicket
depends on the JP driver
spice ivy
I mean, i sorta have confidence taking on threats like Panthers and Tigers too, despite the clear risk
zinc condor
Which Tiger
strange thicket
probably one
spice ivy
Tiger I, even if i got close to a Tiger II the frontal hull is still red af
Its crazy, damn things makin me resort to prammo
strange thicket
no way in hell you could pen it with prammo
unless you are a chinese med
spice ivy
I facehug it then prammo it to oblivion
hollow belfry
Idk. With a Chi-Ri I was able to get a full pen in the cupola with prammo
strange thicket
he can still shoot at you so you aren't doing much
spice ivy
I have an addiction, help.
But yeah this thing is sorta becoming a go-to tactic, really good if you can catch em offguard, not so good if you end up just nudging their backside and they end up flanking you
wise moth
Part of the obnoxious thing about Tiger II is that since WG changed hitskins a while ago, often the Tiger II looks way more red on the hitskin then it really is
spice ivy
Hmm it depends, no?
wise moth
But the hitskin change is what happens when too many nubs whine that they're bouncing on non-red parts, so WG just made everything look redder even though the old hitskins were the most accurate 🤷
spice ivy
Care to give an example on its hitskin?
hollow belfry
The armor behing the tracks is still 80mm. Despite the tracks, I still often get troll pens on an angled Tiger II with same or lower tier tanks
raven jacinth
Forgot name: The hitskin shows grey right?
Patrick: Yes
Forgot Name: So that means I can pen right?
Patrick: Yes
Forgot Name: So if I shoot that part It should pen.
Patrick: It will bounce
spice ivy
hearing those three words can shred a man
"That one bounced"
wise moth
@spice ivy I don't have the in-game view to show you, but for example, an IS-3 can pen the front of a Tiger II with its AP shells, but in-game this shot would show as bright red
However, if you were to actually fire the shot, it would pen
spice ivy
Has anyone used this to their advantage?
wise moth
But since the hitskin lies, it's hard to know the difference between that shot, and this shot
spice ivy
Yikes, the Tiger II needs a fix alright
wise moth
So you're faced with an obnoxious choice. Either you trust the hitskin, and don't bother firing to save your shot, or you gamble on the hitskin being wrong and either pen, or potentially face having to reload for the next ~10s
spice ivy
Ig the IS-3's reload time makes the decision making process even more intense
strange thicket
i think i faced the same thing switching to prammo in t-34-3
even tho it has great pen it didn't go through
wise moth
Since the hitskin lies, shooting Tigers can be super obnoxious @strange thicket This is what happens when a perfectly angled tiger is using 1 degree of its gun depression vs. T-34-3 HEAT
And when it's using 0 of its gun depression. Just 1 degree change is the difference between penning and bouncing
But since the hitskin lies and shows both of these shots as red, you have no way of knowing which of these scenarios you're facing
strange thicket
lmao
candid harbor
bring mobility nerf with hp buff, nearly 11k blocked damage in Maus
broken sentinel
@wise moth 220mm effective makes sense for the upper plate, but not the lower plate. I've said this before, but I think WG should take say 30mm off the lower plate and add it to the upper plate. Make the upper plate basically impenetrable but make the lower plate a massive weak spot that has to be hidden.
jade nimbus
Upper plate is nearly impenetrable as is. They should just nerf the LFP, no need to buff UFP remember Tiger 2 is already fairly mobile.
candid harbor
ah yes, need to hit 15k blocked damage after 6.9
strange thicket
ok
spice ivy
Is the Angry Connor just an Archer rehash?
hollow belfry
Yep
spice ivy
That explains everything..
solid gate
Why we not get Achilles?
solid gate
Hi Guys! I have question, about grille 15. How to play it? What equipment to take.
solid gate
Hey Wot blitz…………If you can hear me can you put the old Leopard gun that does like 60 - 90 Dmg? Please do it
wanton hawk
is it possible to buy heavy tank or do i have to slowly slowly upgrade light tanks to be heavy?
lyric oriole
@solid gate Grille 15 is a Sniping Vehicle. It lacks the armor and traverse speed to play close, but does make up for some of that in Accuracy and Fire rate.
Because Grille 15 has low penetration for tier 10 tank Destroyers it's a better Idea to choose mediums as the target over over more heavily armored tanks, if you are confident in your ability to penetrate though you should be able to melt a heavy.
Most importantly, even though the grille has very mediocre traverse, the Top speed is enough to reposition. Even though I said it is a Sniping Vehicle that does not mean you should sit in one spot the whole game.
This is the Equipment layout I use.
candid harbor
@wanton hawk if you will find shell is not flying fast enough then you can run super charger and vertical stabalizers
@young veldt sheridan
yeah or get Progetto
lyric oriole
It's pretty good, it's got nerfed a bit a couple patches ago, but it's still not bad. You can get the highest View range in the game if you run vents
solid gate
im trying to grind the progetto please tell me what is the best way to play progetto and is it any good?
as well as what should my next vehicle be?
lyric oriole
RH_131 would have a Field day
mossy cairn
I already have the tiger II fully maxed and about 55k exp on it, should I switch to the Maus line now?
strange thicket
2750hp on a e100 isn't bad eh
hollow belfry
It isn’t bad. It’s more like the rest of the tank isn’t amazing
solid gate
Imagine a Rhm Defender
A Black Rhm 🤯
A hot Rhm🔥
Autoloader with 2 Shells (640)⚰️
low elk
thats like
a long time ago
wise moth
Nah mate, Skorpion G Defender. Make a broken OP tank broken beyond all belief by giving it a 3*460 autoloader
low elk
i should really work on making the Skorpion defender look more high res
the roof looks so bad
tulip sail
I still want a Sherman defender
solid gate
@tulip sail cough cough y5 firefly
tulip sail
I said defender not that atrocity @solid gate
solid gate
@tulip sail it’s the best the US could come up with anyway w I n k
tulip sail
The m4a2 with an m26 turret disagrees
solid gate
Laughs in M51
tulip sail
Yeah but that failed miserably
Wait nvm I thought you ment the American proto
The m51 was actually really cool
solid gate
Giga Sherman
tulip sail
Im honestly getting more and more interested in post war Sherman's
spice ivy
I recall the Israeli army creating a Sherman hybrid to bolster their armored forces in the post war period
floral thunder
@solid gate jpanther 2 if you want to be mobile ferd if you want armor
tulip sail
@spice ivy that's either the m50 or m51
spice ivy
Likelihood of those buggers making it into Blitz?
solid gate
M50 is the alt of fl10 too
tulip sail
But the m4/FL-10 is Egyptian
solid gate
As in they both use the amx 13s gun
tulip sail
True
spice ivy
Were the AMX light tanks successful irl? Or did most of em stay as prototypes?
tulip sail
They were successful you just have to have a proto to work on and improve till you get the real
spice ivy
But they werent exactly... "main stay" tanks but were the guinea pigs for experimental designs, no?
solid gate
Amx 13 stayed in service for a while and saw a lot of modernizations
Amx 13 participated in the 6 days war aswell
spice ivy
Damn, thats something
tulip sail
I'm terrible with post war french tanks but iirc it was there main light tank for a while
spice ivy
I'd kill to have one of em just to flex on them "automobile" plebs
blatantly ignores fuel consumption and upkeep costs
tulip sail
Lol I'd love one
solid gate
Fake tanks:
@solid gate that tank already exists in wot xbox lol.. It's called the Iron Rain, with 40 sec reload, 3 shot reloader. Each shot does 460 average dmg each.
hollow moth
I got the full E50 Now, I just need to research the E50M and buy it
That will be my fourth tier X
After it I will go for WZ-131 cuz I have 2 TDs, one light and Will have one medium, but no heavues
Any recommendations for set in E50M?
solid gate
Supposedly the E 50M is fake. Not surprising since the original E 50 wasn’t even produced really. Heck even Panther II didn’t make it into production stage.
hollow moth
But there was probably like blueprints, if Germany had the opportunity and enough materials they would build the tank
solid gate
@solid gate panther 2 was built wargaming is heavily wrong on it
E50M is entirely fictional
@solid gate Well I never said it wasn’t built. Just not as a full production model. That’s what I meant. May have reached prototype stage but not production stage. I could be wrong but doubt that seeing as how it wasn’t used.
solid gate
Some of these fake German TDs look interesting but are impractical because they’d be too front heavy.
But for going with fake tanks for a real nation it would be best to base them off of real tanks but alter them to some degree. Like the JagdPanzer E 100 we have in Blitz. Well the tank is real supposedly in that it was talked about back then but they didn’t even get to deciding on a gun much less what the casemate and all would look like. The JP E 100 we have is probably the closest to what a real one would have been.
spice ivy
Fast boi giving crew members concussions from hard landings since 1940
tulip sail
@hollow moth true but was "built" under Germany
As in a wooden mock up but was quite pointless at its stage
solid gate
Something I found slightly irritating was the "angry connor " was in the uk category even though it has a leprechaun on it, which is a symbol of Ireland
tulip sail
It's a British tank though
solid gate
True
zinc condor
It basically just an Irish Camo for a British tank
strange thicket
@solid gate does it really matter though
You could say the same stuff about every nation if they just stick to ww2 tanks there will not be as much tanks as we have
So they added stuff tanks designs and prototypes that was mentioned
solid gate
@strange thicket Indeed. But there are tank designs that came way after the war was over that people made up and that some dummies believe were real. Like Panzer Front game I saw mention having made up tanks. The developers of that game made up tanks for some odd reason and some dumb people believe they were real.
strange thicket
@solid gate that is just a bruh moment there
solid gate
@strange thicket Yep
tulip sail
@spice ivy the angry connor is a great tank just unusual to play irl the archer was great for its design but it wasnt all that useful since when it was deployed they weren't on the defensive anymore
tepid cairn
Hey guys, how should i play the AT-8, AT-7 etc?
solid gate
@tepid cairn on your rapid fire
slender cliff
The AT line isn’t really good right now. Things get rocky around tier 8
tepid cairn
What do you mean by rocky @slender cliff ?
tulip sail
Not very good
tepid cairn
Oof ok but is it worth the Fv 183 derp?
slender cliff
No
tulip sail
No
slender cliff
It really hard to play effectively and it just falls straight out of the meta to be general
tepid cairn
lol k thanks for your time 🙂
slender cliff
You are more enlightened so I say it was worth it👌
spice ivy
The AT 8 is pre solid tho, just hide your cupola and wiggle and you'll be impervious to most shots
I like the AT line's ability to just not care for complicated strategies like flanking, side scraping, and focusing on just being the team's meat wall
Really gives it a heavy tank feel for a tank destroyer
tepid cairn
Thanks, but i find that i have a tendency of getting abandoned by my team because im to slow. After this happens, the whole enemy just engulfs me from all directions. But, this may be because i sort of play the AT line as a light as i expect to be able to run away from my problems.
zinc condor
AT-7 is more like hide half of your Hull or so and keep firing on the enemy
tepid cairn
Oh thanks 🙂
zinc condor
Considering how the gun is like on the side
tepid cairn
oh yeah i see what you mean now
spice ivy
@tepid cairn ah i see, well. Considering its speed, i think you are encouraged to stick with yer team, because you need em as much as they need you, obv there will be cases where you will be abandoned out in the open, but in general, you will need to impose yourself on the battlefield and take risks for positioning, attack, etc.
Such is the way with these slow, cumbersome but punchy TDs
But thats why i love em
Also, always load prammo as a precaution, because though it may have a good rate of fire, its pen values are rather inferior to some TDs of its tier so expect to see a few full red heavies
tepid cairn
Oooh ok thank you for your time in explaining it to me :), ill try to implement your strategies tomorrow. @spice ivy
spice ivy
Always happy to help
zinc condor
But to be honest the AT-7 have a pretty good AP pen
spice ivy
Yeah, it does, but im still reluctant to get it tho
onyx venture
I may have been backed into a corner and died but at least I beat my record for blocking shots in the T28 Proto
feral ore
engine or gun first for e50
i dont mind the mobility of it but the pen and turret armor is just god awful
alpine notch
@feral ore Free Exp the 2nd gun or free exp the turret + top gun, its up to u
feral ore
i have 900 free xp
alpine notch
I would say gun if you have no difficulties on mobility
Its like playing E 75 but medium-heavy @feral ore
feral ore
heaviums are fun. Is the upper glacis as strong as 50m?
strange thicket
it is strong but your lower plate isn't good
you can face hug but it depends on what you are facing sometimes they can go through your turret
your upper plate can bounce shot good and try to wiggle or possibly side scrape
regal aspen
Better line ?
hard nexus
there is no 'better' line
regal aspen
?
spice ivy
go for the armored TDs, the Jpanther is troll
distant nymph
yea armored tds are a bit less skill dependant. The jpz4 is a very good tank, Jpanther is straight up broken, Jagdtiger is a DPM monster. If you go the unarmored you will suffer with the sturer emil but the wafflepanzer 4 is good and the grille's not too bad as far as I see
spice ivy
the unarmored ones are literally glass cannons, good damage, but once you get caught or spotted in the open, expect instant deletion
high risk high reward
regal aspen
I don’t know how to run this tank
distant nymph
oof the m42 is a bit mediocre when I played it
spice ivy
i used it as a support fire tank before i deleted it out of boredom
Something about long reload times for a tier V just doesnt click with me
distant nymph
Stick to hills. Literally
spice ivy
plus it doesnt have much going for it in the armored department
broken sentinel
I loved that tank, which says a lot considering I hate tier 5 in general. The 15° of gun depression may sound like it's only good thing but it has decent mobility, a troll turret, and a decent gun to go with those gun angles. The Strv really rewards players who know how to utilize ridgelines, avoid incoming fire, and be aware of damage-dealing opportunities.
distant nymph
I played it the "creeper" style- stay at the foot of the hill, when there are targets pop out, shoot and reverse back
alpine notch
@regal aspen Play hulldown in every case, since the armor isnt that reliable, support the team
broken turtle
should we have m4a3e8 with better side hull armor? It's more like a light tank. The kv-1s just use the 85mm d-5t to fire HE at the side and deal about 1/3 the m4a3e8,
solid gate
When O-47 got sale again ?
Or valkyria chronicles series tank
You know they could have used the Turtle 1 student proposal thing as a tech tree tank and put Tortoise at tier 10. Either that or have Badger as the tier 10. Sadly Wargaming doesn’t think things through thoroughly.
tulip sail
@broken turtle no the E8 is fine how it is
@solid gate it was on sale last year so probably not for a long time
solid gate
how do you guys play the ''challenger''?
distant nymph
stock gun, hide far away and play like an e25
knotty aurora
Any idea what this might be? It happend to me yesterday 🤔🤔
wise moth
@knotty aurora Corrupted texture. Redownloading the game should fix that.
eager fjord
I thought you got a virus.
solid gate
@eager fjord rubella especially
eager fjord
Umm.guys sorry to interrupt you,but can you give me tips for m7?
fleet berryBOT
__Jay__C__[HE-49]#5594 has been warned.
knotty aurora
My apologies 🙏
alpine notch
@eager fjord Isnt that hard, just angle your armor every time against an enemy, and also play hulldown if possible
next pivot
Is the t44 good?
jade nimbus
It's funny how the Vk30s and the VK28 are almost the same weight yet one is a light tank and the others are far from it
alpine notch
@next pivot Is good, but mind that ammo rack on front of the tank, be careful
Pretty much beginner friendly imo, aside from aiming time for a Soviet tank
jade nimbus
Don't forget to avoid the 122mm
next pivot
Aight thanks, i researched it and bought it along time ago, reached 100 crew and sold it, didnt like it so maybe ill revisit it again
alpine notch
Welp, 122mm is just for fun, no worries-
Its a medium, dont expect anything better from that tank, as its a jack of all trades... should be a flexible tank depending on a situation
Why not?
eager fjord
@alpine notch sorry for not replying,but I was so focus killing a leopard that I didn't blocked any shots from the leopard. Eh.
regal aspen
T14 grab or pass
hollow belfry
I’d say pass
distant nymph
I already have it and the armor isn't all that good but the gun and mobility are ok
I got it 50% off idk when
solid gate
Oh god idk how to use centurion I but I can play caern without any probs
lyric oriole
@solid gate the Valkaria Chronicles tanks generally go on sale in September.
neat nimbus
worth of research it or skip it?
lyric oriole
It's neither bad nor great, research it and grind it, it's not a difficult grind
neat nimbus
what module i should upgrade
lyric oriole
Get the Turret and gun first, then tracks then engine
neat nimbus
ok
visual jolt
@neat nimbus Free XP modules and then grind
Be warned it’s one of the worst tier 6 meds imo
lyric oriole
I think it's pretty good, it's a second line Medium
visual jolt
It’s probably decent but in a tier full of Shermans and Bromwells it lacks
I think it’s better than the 30.01d
lyric oriole
30.01D is trash, as is 30.02d
visual jolt
Yes the chi is better than those 2
lyric oriole
It's unfortunate that people missed out on 30.02 M that was a solid tank
crystal hare
Any strats on VK 30.01 (D)
lyric oriole
Honestly I can't think of anything. The tank doesn't have good armor or angles to take, the DPM is mediocre. The modules are exposed on the thing.
I would recommend skipping it, but for gameplay try not to directly engage anyone, and stick with your teammates
civic terrace
The only good thing of the chi to is the precision and penetration of the gun
crystal hare
I just stay with the team or use obstacles to my advantage
broken sentinel
I did fine with the 30.01D. It was a bit of an odd tank, but it can work well enough.
hoary verge
These tanks are slow, big, have little armour and bad DPM, please buff
They're just really awful tanks
viral lodge
Welcome to the Japanese line
solid gate
Ching Chong your vehicle is wrong
hoary verge
Hopefully the TD line will be good
viral lodge
the T10 is going to have stupidly OP prammo.
strange thicket
doesn't really matter the tank is big and is flat as hecc
solid gate
I'm grinding XP in the Chi To and it's an awesome tank
It's not that big, the front can troll bounce and the gun is just beautiful
Chi Nu is trash but I just play it like a Strv 42 with less gun depression
broken sentinel
"Not that big" lmao, it's almost the size of the Tiger I
solid gate
My favorite tank that i have is the AMX30 1er prot.
hollow belfry
Now remove the armor and give a worse gun. Your Tiger I became a chi-to
raven jacinth
I personally never had any problems with the Chi-Nu and Chi-To
strange thicket
@tacit sentinel what else do you want other than angled armor and an auto loader lmao
tacit sentinel
.20 accuracy 🤣
solid gate
@raven jacinth Chi-Nu is way too slow for a medium with such light armor. Chi-To is also big and sluggish though not as bad as Chi-Nu.
raven jacinth
that's your opinion, but I personally said I had no problems with those tanks @solid gate
solid gate
@raven jacinth Then you are a rare person. Most struggle with the tank and I can see why. It’s slow, useless armor, and the gun takes too long to reload and probably isn’t as accurate as it should be.
raven jacinth
sure useless armor, what do you do when playing a tank with no armor lol?
you play it as a Second Line tank
solid gate
Even that doesn’t work because teammates can and often are greedy blocking you from shooting. Also it is possible opponent shoots you instead of the front line guy by accident or on purpose. The tank just isn’t fun at all.
solid gate
It’s not as easy to play second line as you claim. Nor is it easy to be an effective sniper. Honestly I’d rather play Chi-Ri over the tier 5 and 6 ones. But even Chi-Ri isn’t great.
crystal hare
I don’t remember chi nu much but it wasn’t good
I don’t remember chi nu much but it wasn’t good
jade nimbus
The Is7 needs a gun buff more than a HP buff really
solid gate
Today I saw a Jagdpanzer E100 in my team obliterate an IS-7 completely full hp with an ammorack. It was so surprising I fell down the chair for laughing lol
jade nimbus
IS7 ammo rack right now is a dumb design. The ammo rack being in front would be fine if the front armor wasn't a pike nose that could be penned if you angle even a little
Not to mention the lower plate is even weaker
raven jacinth
it got buffed
limber hornet
So is it a good tank I know the firepower is decent but the armour is mad good
raven jacinth
armor is good
viral lodge
T29 is a great hulldown tank. (Great turret bad hull) @limber hornet
Hide the hull, shoot, pullback, reload, repeat.
tulip sail
I almost quit the game....
Yeah I love the game except the at8 that was such a pain in the neck
It's the only tank that's driven me that far
tulip sail
You might nobody else tends to
It's got too many weak points coupled with slow traverse and not much going for it drove me insane (yes I get it's ironic that I'm mentioning weakspots when I love the chieftain/t95)
solid gate
@tulip sail eww that thing is so disgusting
dry siren
does anyone know when the super conqueror will be for sale?
woven stone
Though for how it will be on sale I can predict crates with near certainty
solid gate
@solid gate So you think Chieftain/T95 is disgusting?
@tulip sail The AT 8 and AT 7 got armor buffs but not sure it it was enough. Well the hull should be impenetrable but the cupolas I don’t know about.
crystal hare
Obj 140 or t62a
tulip sail
From fighting them It hasn't been enough of a buff so even I wont touch that
spice ivy
there are weakpoints in the hull that are exploitable to those with a keen eye and good pen values, but a bit of wiggling prolly solves that
hard nexus
obj140
kind bluff
T-62 for stat padding but 140 for a more fun experience
novel locust
Is the panther ii getting buffed tommorow
Yes or no because i will not buy it until it gets buffed
tulip sail
That's what the released patch notes say
brittle jay
Yes it definitely needs a buff
neat nimbus
worth of buy it or spend on new legendary camo for the tiger 2
raven jacinth
I mean personally, I wouldn't do both those options and rather save the gold
but if you're a tank collector then go for it
but if you don't play Tier 5 that often then go for the camo
solid gate
That camo is dope af. Go for it.
hollow belfry
It indeed looks good
solid gate
Wot blitz Nerf the All japnes TD it's so shit annoying it reload is 5 sec cant even do anything Nerf it ITS CRAP as shit
Cringe
hollow belfry
I’ve heard many people asking for Japanese TD’s buffs. Not for nerfs
raven jacinth
@solid gate Perhaps instead of sharing your thoughts to the English Speaking Server in a vulgar manner, you should do do the following: For one, the Japanese TDs barely just got released and it is unknown if they are indeed overpowered or underpowered yet. Two, try to reason with your thought before suggesting, it could be flawed in some way or another. And three, Try to keep a clean attitude and express your thoughts in a respectful manner instead of an awful one. Thus said, Please, And Thank You
hollow belfry
Not to mention only the Chi-To SPG with the stock gun has a reload time of around 6 seconds, and a pretty low pen.
solid gate
Hello there, newbie's here. Question: On which tier the tanks has a crew? I've got V tiers actually and can't see it anywhere.
hollow belfry
Wdym?
tender crest
why isnt the BT-7 ART never for sale?
zinc condor
@solid gate you mean the crew training? I think it's on tier 6
hollow belfry
WG just fix the bs repair costs for the wz 113. 4k damage 3 kills, not one prammo fired yet I lose 30k. Stop that.
solid gate
@zinc condor Yep. Now I don't know what to do with exp of my fun tank Pz.IV D.
Everything researched and I've got 9k exp to nothing.
I would switch to giving this exp for crew (like in normal WoT) but I can't. 🙄
neon sorrel
Hey, how do I play M6? It has even less armor than T1, and everyone pens it...
zinc condor
Just get a tier 6 or something i kinda forgot
solid gate
@neon sorrel It hasn't less armor. A little bit more. It just fights with higher tiers.
neon sorrel
@solid gate it definately has less armor on the front of the hull, which is the most important part for a heavy. From 127 to 102. Its only advantages are smaller reload time, and more HP. This is why I am asking, since as it fights with higher tiers, it's much more challenging that T2
thick trout
@neon sorrel Don't look at the values given by WG in game for armour, use the armour inspector app. The M6 has armour from 100-150mm where people will aim, the T1 has 85-130mm where people will aim.
tame hill
I have a question about the Japanese Heavies. Are they to op for blitz or something? I'm just not completely understanding the whole thing. I play xbox and computer and have the tier V O-i Exp and Tier VI 0-I Heavy. Or is it like to much work? I don't know, I'm confusing myself more then I should be right
alpine notch
@tame hill They are likely way too big for the game, so WG says didnt plan to make them in game
But who knows in future though, we have Maus line exist with their enormous size
solid gate
@tame hill Japanese. Don't say "Jap". It's not going to kill you to type out five more letters.
@tame hill it is a racist term and you will not be saying it here.
fleet berryBOT
BlackStar#6881 has been warned.
tame hill
@solid gate Fine I will say it elsewhere. It's not a big deal, Only racist if you make it that way
solid gate
I'm not going to debate the meaning of a word with you. It is not acceptable to use here. End of discussion.
solid gate
On a different note, I came here to say the Black Prince is OP af and needs a nerf.
fleet berryBOT
doom777#1732 was muted
rigid sluice
uhh any of you got advice for how to play t 34 85?
solid gate
wdym it's the best tier 6 med. Go with other meds/lights and rush enemies or go with heavies and use them as cover to hit reloading enemies
rigid sluice
idk i seem to not do very well with it
spice ivy
they can be feisty buggers if the one at the helm knows how to play em
inland osprey
Good gun, questionable armor, you can try hulldown or peekaboo vs other meds.
Save HP for late game, because you will definitely need it.
lyric oriole
T-34-85 is a good medium, high Alpha for it's tier.
Try to stick close to the Frontlines, though mind your armor, it's not the best. Try not to eat shots when possible, if you have an ally with good armor try to stay out of their way, but after the Enemy has fired take a shot.
It's not a good brawling tank with the reload, but it can outtrade most same tier mediums at range
inland osprey
^
A lot of meds on that tier have a 75-76mm gun, so you can trade fairly well with them.
rigid sluice
peekaboo it is then
solid gate
Chi To has no armour or mobility. VK 30P is slow. VK 30D has nothing put pen. The M4s have no armour. Only the P43 bis is better than the T-34-85 at the tier.
lyric oriole
And VK 30.01 P
solid gate
And VK 30.01 P
It's good but turns like a train
lyric oriole
Not really
rigid sluice
i also need help on at8 too
solid gate
Camp and snipe
lyric oriole
Not sure how 60° Per second is "turns like a train"
inland osprey
Imo the only problem on the VK 30.01 P is the flat armor, gets penned 90% of the time
wise moth
Turret is really good tho
lyric oriole
^^^ and it has Ramming capability
solid gate
Not sure how 60° Per second is "turns like a train"
I didn't main it. I just grinded it to keep going in the line. It has great armour when angling and a dope gun so I liked it.
wise moth
ok, can we talk about how it's possible to have a damage ratio less than 1 and over 3k average damage now?
lyric oriole
Smh, not even doing damage equal to your vehicle's health
Positive, it's all down hill from here 😔
Also if you want a truly fun duo run Maus + E5, that Reactive armor Consumable is super troll with the HP buffs
wise moth
@lyric oriole Or just run 2 Mauses and never lose again 🤷
lyric oriole
Even one Maus weighs the battle heavily it's great
rigid sluice
i hate how an amx 12t troll bounced my shot and i got shot by a kv 2
lyric oriole
I just need to find someone to run a Maus toon with at some point
rigid sluice
whats a good way to go against a VK.36.01(H)?
wise moth
@lyric oriole Not enough though. One Maus can be ignored. 2 is a big problem though
lyric oriole
Cry, Prammo, Flank if possible.
VK 36 is kinda busted right now so use premium ammo when necessary and don't hesitate.
rigid sluice
i guess flank or peek from side is better
lyric oriole
If you hit dead center on a broadside shot there is a good chance you will damage the ammo rack so if you have a sideshot go for that
hard lagoon
M5 Stuart has NINETY DEGREES of traverse
rigid sluice
wait wot
inland osprey
Woah, a complete circle in 4 secs wth
rigid sluice
hmm idk why but i never did good with US tanks
neat nimbus
just what the tiger 2 needed a beautiful historical camouflage
strange thicket
the name tho kinda childish imo
neat nimbus
was better if only changed to king tiger and yes thats how the american troops called it
strange thicket
i am thinking of buying the camo but should i save gold? i mean is it worth saving? i am f2p btw
tulip sail
If you really like it go for it if you dont then dont
lyric oriole
Gold has better use than for cosmetics but the camo does look nice so I wouldn't blame you
wise moth
If you're an F2P, it's better to spend your gold on garage slots, the IS-5, free XP, and tier 10 crew training
strange thicket
free xp is kind MEH
i have the is5 already and a couple of other premiums and i get my free xp from using boosters which are like 300
neat nimbus
im about better save gold for the e100
strange thicket
i actually don't need that much garage slots now and i have a lot of lower tier tanks so i might just sell them
and i never thought about crew training didnt seem like a good trade for me
neat nimbus
sell collectors if you want some gold may give a good amount
strange thicket
guess imma go for it then
i will be left with like 560golds
the only collector i have is nightmare
neat nimbus
ooof
strange thicket
i sold the other ones given by WG and i am not an OG player
wise moth
inb4 Tiger II gets nerfed back into oblivion
neat nimbus
i remember the time when WG gave for free 1000 of gold
strange thicket
that is what i am scared of too lmao
neat nimbus
and atgm tanks would see it as a big fish
strange thicket
i got the kv2 legendary camo because it is quite decent for me and iam sure there is no further nerfs hopefully
neat nimbus
men now im scared if they nerf tiger 2
strange thicket
i wouldn't mind it if they made it decent not make it garbage as before
fast compass
They said that they would nerf its traverse and not the armour if required, so it might not all be so bad
weary cypress
sonic cosmos
How
coral orchid
What how?
sonic cosmos
Mm
coral orchid
hollow notch
wispy magnet
i see
vagrant estuary
Armor ghost in wot blitz
sonic cosmos
O
broken sentinel
@vagrant estuary might be an auto-ricochet
sonic cosmos
Why do I need the last gun?
solid gate
3rd one it has better pen
Also think the 3rd one looks better on mine than the 2nd one lol
solid gate
I’mma be working on my own tank lines because or even for reasons.
solid gate
Cannot even play because still downloading update.
vagrant estuary
This is bug???
low elk
Oh they managed to break jpanther again
reinstall the game
slender cliff
Rip jpanther side armor
solid gate
How did they manage to mess up JPanther’s side armor behind the track system in the first place?
slender cliff
it was a bug where when they increased some armor in a specific part of the tank but it caused another part of the tank to be buffed as well
solid gate
That sucks man. I bounced shots on that area even when trying to aim for the casemate sides instead of that section while driving T20. Either that or as he was turning and I was moving RNG would troll me.
But now it seems there is a bug with hit skin(s). At least JP’s hit skin according to that guy.
slender cliff
same I remember everytime when I fired an SU 152 ap shell into the side of a jpanther under the casemate in btw the tracks it would always bounce. It initially surprised me because I used to be able to pen that part with no problem in prior updates. Luckily they are decreasing the armor back to like from a whopping 160 to 50 mm
solid gate
Yeah. Hopefully they got it right this time and that part is weak but the upper front plate is still strong.
low elk
experinced players get destroyed by the update
cuz they have muscle memory to aim for track shots
slender cliff
yep especially Russian tanks can get ammoracked by firing at the spot just above the tracks
solid gate
Well I think I wasn’t aiming high enough when at point blank but wasn’t necessarily aiming for that section in 6.8 update. More like lower casemate but could hit that part instead. Because RNG and not my best aiming.
slender cliff
Yeah 6.7-8 made the jpanther armor just broke xD
low elk
im fine with the upper plate
just load gold™️
solid gate
Yeah but before that I quit playing it. Not just because grinding other tanks after I finished grinding it but also because it felt meh at best.
JPanther may be fairly quick but still can be flanked. Especially if he is in open. JPanther in open is just asking for medium to kill him.
slender cliff
Yeah I guess the jpanther armor buff didn't really make it such a huge issue because gold could do the job and it's sides are weak as ever.
True but when you get to the tier 8 everything gets insane @solid gate
solid gate
@slender cliff JPanther II (which probably isn’t the paper drawing it’s based of’s real name)? I went Ferdinand. I hate JPanther II. Wish it got armor buff too. Guess it cannot get gun depression buff because rear casemate. And don’t start about hiding the hull.
Btw did JagdTiger get armor buff this update or will that be in 7.0?
slender cliff
@solid gate I mean ferdi is a good tank but its slow and not flexible unlike the jpanther2. With its great alpha and insane dmp and speed, the jpanther2 can totally wreck heavies if you know how to go hulldown and flank. Its not a frontline tank. It should be a close support assault tank. And no the jadgtiger did not get a armor update
solid gate
@slender cliff Then it must be next update. Maybe 7.1 at latest. I think it should get one and so should Ferdinand even though Ferdinand is performing well somehow. Makes no sense how since while it has better armor than JP II that armor is flat and not reliable. Also it is slow on the traverse. Horrible traverse is annoying. But I think Ferdinand is more similar to JT than JP II is. JP II does not prepare one for JT.
slender cliff
True but the jpanther2 hones the player skills on it specific strengths and weaknesses making the player better if they are willing to learn. From the jpanther to the jadgtiger is a huge buff so it is even more beneficial to the player. @solid gate
solid gate
@slender cliff I disagree. Only thing they share is sloped armor. JT is about armor and is slow. JP II is way faster and has worse armor so the play style for it is way different. Well ok both may have good guns. But I think JT can get it’s down just a touch more. Still even JT isn’t breaking records on gun depression.
slender cliff
@solid gate I agree however JT and jp share strong case mates and weaker hull armor. True that the two have diff playstyles but it’s just that the Ferdinand isn’t flexible like the other two. It really falls short from the speed and weakspots
solid gate
@Dimitrov#2399 Well I cannot disagree. In fact I may have to look up the Ferdinand/Elefant more closely. Because I’m not sure it ever had a 12.8cm gun irl. If that rings true then I’d say it should be tier 7. Also I personally would prefer JP II have more armor and be slower or have JT 8.8/10.5 as tier 8. Get the play styles to the same or quite similar.
novel locust
Panther II still didnt get a buff!! 😡
candid harbor
@novel locust they have plans for it, it doesn't mean it will come out next day
junior turtle
wicked forge
What is best for wr I am currently using pz b2 but it is not very effective
strange thicket
@solid gate eh it is just making it more beginner friendly like that go for fred if you are about slowness and armor
Jp2 is amazing as it is
solid gate
Should i go for calibrated Shells or Dpm boost for the is4 ?
round carbon
Need tips use the slow churcill VII
night meteor
zinc condor
Probably Chaffee if you want the new US light tank line
fast compass
Depends on whether you want a medium, light or a heavy tier 10 tank
All three lines have some really fun tanks
round carbon
how to obtain marder III?
candid harbor
@round carbon if wg would ever sell it in shop or event, only then you can achieve it
solid gate
VK 30.01D have like slapped armor Can WG give it some armor Buff but not the HP cuz it always dies like in 10sec?
hoary verge
This tank any good?
visual jolt
@hoary verge it can do well if played right. Decent armor and a good gun. It won’t be fun stock though
solid gate
Is the Borsig good?
normal wyvern
Yes borsig is good
tawdry horizon
What can I do now with this
viral lodge
nothing probably
tawdry horizon
Yup