I wonder how much maus turret weighed itself
#vehicles-discussion
solid gate
I am sure it weighed enough to completely crush a Sheridan hull.
While that is true I’m curious how heavy the hull was without the turret
Not sure. Research time for you.
I’m fairly discouraged considering maus wasn’t really recorded that well and the turret area is still pretty gray
Anyway I had a heck of a battle in Chi-Ri today. After taking a beating I bounced 2 shots from the same 2 tier 8 mediums who helped put me down to 60 hp. I was using their dead T-43 as cover when it happened and I got to kill 1 of them.
That T-43 took some off me too but thankfully didn’t kill me.
ocean shale
is the t95e6 good?
halcyon thunder
its a medium tank with bad dpm and nice prammo
ocean shale
its a heavy tank
halcyon thunder
its playstyle isnt really a heavy's
ocean shale
how fast is it
halcyon thunder
42kmh
ocean shale
so it moves like a fast med tank
halcyon thunder
acceleration is also very nice on it
ocean shale
so is it worth buying it?
cuz i really don't like the fact how all the armour is exposed
halcyon thunder
It's not the best
ocean shale
but its a collec tor lol
solid gate
@ocean shale just because it’s shiny don’t mean it’s useful
halcyon thunder
no, i would hope not
ocean shale
why? i luv light tanks ike type 62
halcyon thunder
idk ask wg
ocean shale
and y would you hope not
halcyon thunder
because thats even more premiums at t10 that we dont need
rotund palm
I wanted Su 100Y but this still counts cause it's free
unborn hedge
Congrats. And yeah i have the SU-100Y and can confirm its a blast to play, even more on platoons
frigid compass
no
solid gate
I got SU-100Y from that huge container
rotund palm
I got lõwe from the huge container when i was just new but didn't use it until i knew the basics of the game but now i got AC sentinel from it
solid gate
I never got anything... Any tips on how to get something? Is buying a container w gold increasing the chance to get a premium tank?
zinc condor
Nope
stark nest
Hello cześć przyjmie mnie jakiś polski klan
solid gate
T23E3 was my first premium time drop from one of those containers.
abstract crest
AT-8 any good?
low elk
dont go that entire line
terrible line
abstract crest
Wish I had known sooner. I saved up for like a week non-premium for it.
Any good replacements? (Aprt from American TDs, already going down them)
low elk
the german JPZE100 line is nice
you can also wait for the japanese TDS
abstract crest
I'll waitmfor the Japanese TDs
solid gate
JagdPanzer E 100 like is good except the tier 8s.
JT is probably like the premium JT 8.8 but a tier higher and with a bigger gun. The tier 8 tech tree ones suck though.
JPII isn’t bad, but the previous tanks are borderline broken so it might feel lacking. Ferdinand is somehow the best performing T8 TD
Not on NA it isn’t. On NA a Ferdi will get murdered. Also I hate JP II since it doesn’t have enough gun depression and is rear mounted. Ferdi is too but that 2 more degrees of gun depression makes a difference.
Hull down a JP II my foot. Not possible if you wanna get shots off. That’s a camping TD. Ferdi would be better second line support if it had more armor.
GD isn’t necessary for hulldown, but yeah you can’t use as many positions. The main problem of Ferd is flat armour
Yeah but I couldn’t hull down a JP II anyway. It’s impossible to get bounces with it. The YouTubers are wrong imho. Best not to get shot at with JP II but that’s hard too considering how big it is and that makes it have horrible camo rating. I’d rather have a made up TD like Krokodil with a forward mounted gun over the piece of trash JP II.
And yeah the 200mm of flat armor works for Tiger P since it is tier 7. At tier 8 that armor becomes less useful. Ferdi really needs a buff to the armor even if that makes it historically inaccurate.
Idk I don’t really like forward mounted gun TDs. Crew always dies if you don’t get ammoracked.
Well JP II for me would need more HP than a heavy tank before I’d play it again.
scarlet wagon
i am just asking but is the FV4202 a medium tank because i am going for a good tank of each class i need help
i already am going for the I.S 4 the JP. PZ E100 and the tier x light France tank
solid gate
4202 is a bit power creeped, but it has HESH so you can have a lot of fun if you don’t mind going bankrupt
solid gate
I’d recommend E 50 M, the line is good and fun except for Panther II which is literally worse than Panther I
solid gate
Yes, it’s like HE ammo except it can penetrate up to 220 mm of armour (it’s available for Centurion 7/1 and FV4202), which means that you can penetrate most medium tanks frontally for 400-500 damage
solid gate
Good luck for the stock grind then, and have fun with the HESH
scarlet wagon
thx for the help
solid gate
Np
solid gate
Bye
Well Ferdi can get bounces but it’s hard to. Enemies have to be stock or bad at aiming. So stock or just not very good opponents. Also they cannot be same tier or tier 9 TDs.
solid gate
Yep, Ferdi is a team dependent tank. I’d argue the JP II is as well since JP II has even worse armor. Speed isn’t everything though neither is armor.
sweet otter
Hello, is Lowe will never get buffed? I know it's Heavy tanks but. Slow, poor armor, low damage and 8scnd reload time? What's special about Lowe? 😭
low elk
armor and credit making
lyric copper
actually has amour against mediums frontally, but T34s can just yeet shells into your hull armour
carmine pulsar
Löwe is fine. You play it like a support heavy
sweet otter
My only premium tanks 😵
neat nimbus
i play it wrong the whole time i always push forward so the team can shoot while the enemy is getting me
waxen jungle
is the AC 1 sentinel worth buying early on
jade nimbus
Is there any point in playing the e5 when you can play the E4
solid gate
This is what the Chieftain/T95 actually should be:
It’s the 120mm bagged charge British gun.
@solid gate not really no there’s a few different models of it
Also that’s the T96 turret. Well I cannot find images that aren’t from TE or WoT PC.
The T95-6 turret did mount the 120mm gun of the chieftain but it was modified by the US afaik that form of the T95 turret wasn’t mounted on the chieftain hull only the 90mm gun
Really there needs to be a T95 Chieftain hybrid as a medium in the British medium line between the Centurion I (which will be tier 7) and the Centurion 7/1. Why? Because the 84mm 20pdr gun is too small for tier 8. Otherwise the Russian 85mm guns should be at tier 8.
@solid gate All I’m saying is Wargaming screwed up. Also the T208 gun is a smoothbore gun so it seems Wargaming took a liberty and reclassified it a rifled gun.
@solid gate I won’t say they screwed up because the fv4201 chieftain is actually accurate I haven’t read anything on the 120mm T96 being mounted on anything else besides it’s own hull
Well granted that 120mm gun doesn’t look like the original British 120mm but an alteration but there is still a T95 hull with Chieftain turret and that gun. I don’t think TE made all the images they could of the T95-Chieftain hybrid variants.
And I’m never going to like Centurion I or rather III being at tier 8. It’s gun is just too weak despite the high penetration Wargaming gave it. Maybe if they gave it the type B barrel it would work. Then again that still may not be enough. I’d rather have a 90mm British tank at tier 8. The hybrid is the only option I can find.
This looks like the Chieftain/T95 but with T95 hull instead of Chieftain hull and it has the same gun:
So I’d do that tank as the tech tree version at tier 8.
@solid gate I got a chart with the T95 guns lemme get it real wick
Well I can get the other images. Also according to TE that first image I showed was T96 Study F turret not the true T95 turret. It fits the 120mm bagged-charge British gun without a fume extractor.
All the images from the T95 Chieftain hybrid TE article: (Might take me a bit to upload them as copy and pasting them.)
There was a mock up turret for one of the 120mms iirc
@solid gate I wonder though if they’ll eventually bring the actual T96 tank.
tulip sail
Gun cal isn't the only thing that matters when it comes to where a tank should be
carmine pulsar
The FV4005 with the 183mm gun was just all about the gun. Nothing else at all.
solid gate
@tulip sail ironically the US kept trying to make a dam 120mm work while at the same time having to upgun numerous 90mm guns until the L7 came around
tulip sail
True @solid gate the 4005 has more than just 183mm it's got alpha and hesh aswell
solid gate
@tulip sail I honestly love the thought of the UK just out of no where managed to make such a doom cannon with the right stuff for it and meanwhile US was stupid
solid gate
@tulip sail I think it’s a major part of it though because the caliber effects what stats Wargaming gives it. Yes Centurion I has good stats on paper except the alpha. Nobody in their right mind wants to play a tank at tier 8 with less than 220 alpha.
@jade nimbus By the way mate there is. E5 has a fully rotating turret and doesn’t have a weak cupola on top. Not sure about stat wise though.
drifting vapor
Hello guys, I propose the alternative line for the italian line:
P.43 QUATER, tier 8
one of the developments of the .43 project, mounting an 850hp aircraft engine. other than that the hull would be that of a p-43 ter and the turret and armament those of the p.44 pantera. i suppose it could feature the same autoreloader that the pantera has.
solid gate
Heh. All I could find on the real P43 was the original and bis. Ter seems to be the bis as well just an upgrade of it or something like that. Really not sure where the ter came from.
tulip sail
@solid gate as long as you aren't front line 190alpha is fine
solid gate
I say screw the 20pdr and give it a 105 with 310 alpha if we cannot do anything else.
Which would mean it wouldn’t be the Centurion 3 but probably 5 or something.
tulip sail
Why? Would we do that
solid gate
Because the 84mm is too small and that alpha is a joke.
stoic trench
Is the T32 worth it?
drifting vapor
OTO-MELARA M47 PATTON, tier 9
the italian firms fiat and oto-melara license-built the american m47 patton (which is absent from the american tech tree in the game) and their army was equipped with the second highest number of this model (2480) after, of course, the usa.
oto-melara designed a belt-fed autoloader for the tank's 105mm gun. whether it could work as an autoreloader in world of tanks, i can't say, since the autoreloader shown in wg's video about the progetto 46 looks quite different and explains why the emptier the rack is, the more time a shell takes to reload, having to travel across empty slots.
the only other difference from the original m47 patton in terms of gameplay is a different engine by fiat. visually there are some very slight differences about hatches, i remember correctly.
if these differences aren't enough, you could see the italian m47 in a similar light as the is-2: the italian tech tree could give the vehicle a chance to make it in the game, similarly to how the is-2, superfluous to the soviets, is welcomed by china.
LION, tier 10
a license-produced version of the leopard-1 meant for export to middles eastern countries with minor differences, among which some kind of swiss suspensions and air conditioning to make it suitable for operation in a hot climate.
visually it would differ from the leopard by having side skirts and a welded, edgy turret.
what matters is that it can mount the same belt-fed autoloader oto-melara designed designed for the leopard, which italy had already adopted for service. whether it could work in the game as an autoreloader, again, i can't say. pretty sure it wouldn't be one in real life
solid gate
@drifting vapor It would make more sense to do the Leone leading to 1 or both of the OF 40s.
@stoic trench My opinion is not. Stick with T29. Better tank tier for tier.
drifting vapor
@solid gate It's my proposal
stoic trench
@solid gate thx its cuz i just researched it and stuff, tryin to go for e5
solid gate
@drifting vapor I know. I’m just countering it a bit. Either way could work actually. You could do 2 tier 9s and 2 tier 10s. Tier 9s being OTO-Melara M47 then Leone and the other being OF 40 Mk 1 then Mk 2.
Isn’t the Leone related to the OF 40?
@solid gate As far as I could tell it was. Hence why I would have it lead to them.
Also the lion just sounds like a straight up better progetto or ascendant from Stan B
@stoic trench I’ve debated skipping T32 second run around. I don’t like it even if it has better on paper armor and some would say better in battle armor. The gun is a joke though.
Can we just get Jaguar as a medium? That would be cool and I’d like the possible confusion some people would have with a grey colored American (or Chinese) medium tank at high tiers.
stoic trench
Isn't it the 29s gun carried over to it?
solid gate
@stoic trench Yes but it’s got a very different turret and the hull feels worse. At least to me it does. The problem is that gun doesn’t do well against tier 8 and forget going against tier 9s.
stoic trench
Well that's unfortunate to hear "/
solid gate
I guess you can try it out for yourself anyway. If you don’t like it then sell it. Simple as that. M103 looks like it plays a bit to a lot differently than either T29 or T32 as well.
drifting vapor
@solid gate I hope to help improve this game to have more playability and diversity in the various tanks.
stoic trench
@solid gate thx for the help :)
solid gate
@drifting vapor As long as we don’t have missiles ever again. Though the APCR seems to be another part of the problem in regards to the American light tanks.
@stoic trench You’re welcome.
@drifting vapor Oh and doesn’t Leone have a single shot gun too or did I miss something?
drifting vapor
The more tanks you put in, the more diversity you will have in gameplay. For missiles, they remain problematic for all those facing them. @solid gate
solid gate
Well some people want diversity not just in tanks but mechanics for them. Hence why we have missiles. Also autoloaders and autoreloaders. Derp guns aren’t too much of a mechanic as they are just guns (usually short barreled ones) with big damage. Especially on the HE damage.
drifting vapor
@solid gate I would hope that this mini line does not have the autoreloading system, but to be the most armored alternative and normal cannons.
solid gate
I see. I’m not finding anything on TE about the Leone’s gun being an autoloader. It would probably be spoken about in the Armament section which doesn’t mention the gun being autoloaded.
drifting vapor
@solid gate There is always a proposal, in the hope that one day it will come true.
solid gate
Well could give at least the Leone and OTO M47 autoloaders and normal guns. Also besides these MBTs as mediums (though the M47 one may actually be a medium) I have a ton of other mediums and stuff for the Pan-Euro nation. I did quite a bit of looking around for them.
drifting vapor
I really hope so @solid gate
solid gate
@drifting vapor Here are some of my proposed lines:
drifting vapor
Very good work @solid gate
solid gate
Panzer 58 Mutz is the first prototype version of the Panzer 58 which Wargaming made a German tank when it is actually Swiss. The production model used a 105mm gun. Also Panzer 74 there would have this setup:
drifting vapor
The P.43 Quater or the fourth version of our p43 would be more appropriate as a natural continuation of the line giving it even better continuity, the wagon would also remain more likely to be historic in the same identical way as the previous p.43 ter. The characteristics of the wagon resume real proposals and / or thoughts of that time on our real P.43, in particular the main characteristics resume the same hull with the same armor as the tier 7 p.43 ter (100/50/50) - unlike the tier 7 (700hp) engine, it would be the one from montù, proposed with the avio engines derived from the variants produced in Italy of the German DB 601 / DB 605, it would consequently be the 850 HP Fiat 1050 RC.58I which would project this wagon in game even with speeds and accelerations completely comparable and comparable with those of a light tank instead of a medium one. - the Italian 90/71 cannon actually in the studio during the war even if it did not finally come to be built, with penetration values comparable to the 8.8 cm 43 L / 71 German or above 200 mm (and historically WITHOUT loading at tape) - turret of the chariot with slight redesign, and modified only a little in size mostly in length to accommodate the Italian 90/71 cannon in comparison to its size as well as from real project.
solid gate
Kranvagn?
That’s the Emil III. In fact it’s a cover name for the whole Emil project. There is no true Kranvagn. I found that out and was glad I did.
Looks like the OF 40s (and since they followed the Leone I bet it too) have -9 degrees of gun depression and +20 degrees of gun elevation. Not bad. Still the Panzer 74 from what I found would be like a Comet at tier 10 as far as gun depression goes. 12 degrees.
Yep. Panzer 74 with 105mm is -12 and +21 for depression and elevation. The other gun (the 120mm RO L11) had -10 and +21.
solid gate
And the Emils have -12 degrees of gun depression. +8 or +10 depending on the variant.
median basin
hey guys, im new to blitz and was wondering, which russian td line is better?
currently have stock su-100
crystal hare
Obj. 268
ocean shale
add tier 10 prem/coll light tanks plz
there's not a single one
solid gate
Does PC even have a tier X premium light tank?
Just stop you said this before @ocean shale
solid gate
The only option for that would be a Swedish tank. While I want Wargaming to make the Ikv H1 and H5 as mediums the other Ikv ny project tanks could be turreted TDs or light tanks.
ocean shale
But if they add mortar tanks im gonna die
solid gate
What?
fringe mulch
Artillery? @ocean shale
ocean shale
lol
mortal gulch
Anyone have an idea when will WG make the Girls und Panzer tanks purchasable again?
P. S
Yes, I'm a weeb.
wheat elk
Idk,
ocean shale
oof
solid gate
Wonder if they’ll add more to that dang list of GuP tanks. I mean I think there is a Matilda in that show and more. I bet somebody on YouTube knows more about it.
ocean shale
expamd the jap line
mortal gulch
And WG should update the voice lines of Kuro Mori Mine and Hetzer Kame.
ocean shale
they all sound the samw
mortal gulch
Except for the Panzer IV Ankou Special.
ocean shale
they should make each diff tech tree all english but with a certain accent
mortal gulch
Dayum, I really want to get my hands on a Panzer IV Ankou Special. It has - 10° of gun depression which suits my style, and most importantly anime voice. WG please bring the GuP collection back soon.
ocean shale
lol
mortal gulch
Yeah they should update the voices lines of British crews.
frigid compass
play pz iv ankou special on public with 100% sound on your speakers
ocean shale
why?
mortal gulch
@frigid compass If I have a Panzer IV Ankou Special then I would.
ocean shale
i skv5 good a ramming
tulip sail
Yes
ocean shale
how much damage
mortal gulch
"skv5"? KV-5?
mortal gulch
It's kinda slow to be an effective rammer.
frigid compass
KV-5 is bad though
ocean shale
o bruh
frigid compass
badly armored with a bad gun
ocean shale
lol
tulip sail
It's a t8 meme
mortal gulch
I'm not a rammer. But looking at the mobility of the Tier 9 and Tier 10 American HTs, I'll say they are good rammers.
solid gate
E75 is decent at ramming I mean 90 tonnes at 41kph is a lot
solid gate
You don’t have to be fast for ramming to do damage. Maus can do damage to almost anything just by bumping it. Especially lights and mediums.
sinful current
Yea getting rammed by a 188 ton tank is not fun for a light tank
wheat elk
Does anyone know how to use T-34 85?
neat nimbus
should i use the free xp for gun?
solid gate
Get the mobility otherwise have fun grinding a untrained and most likely unupgraded e75 @neat nimbus
astral musk
Who think panther ll should get buffed?
solid gate
@astral musk always get ammoracked by T49 when sidescrapping
@neat nimbus no don't do it use it for E100 Top Gun
@solid gate he doesn’t even have the e100 and his crew and other modules aren’t even unlocked so please leave with that advice
@solid gate I mean just keep it for E100 top gun
frozen mural
Grind silver and unlock equipment first this is useless
Hope dont get such cheap players in my team at tier 9 10 come on @neat nimbus
neat nimbus
....
jade nimbus
@frozen mural Bruh equipment won't do much for you if you have stock modules
frozen mural
Blabla u need all u can get for aim and movement , dont go play tier 9/10 if ur broke and cheap on ur tanks u need it all
And ammo loadout is cheap too
jade nimbus
If you can't play a tank without equipment it means you can't play well
drifting vapor
Hello guys, I propose the alternative line for the italian line:
P.43 QUATER, tier 8
M47 Patton OTO-MELARA aka OTO-FOX, tier 9
LION, tier 10
frozen mural
wrong again , the point is this guy is broke!! He cant tran crew too 75% and cant buy equipment.
@jade nimbus have fun with him on ur side on the battlefield u both get wasted and loose
Pls go platoon with him🤡
jade nimbus
I'll agree 50% crew is bad. But imagine being caustic because a player doesn't have equipment. For someone to be this salty they must be on a losing streak
frozen mural
@jade nimbus no im not , i just dont like people going unprepared in too battle so ez esspecialy 9/10
The treu doesnt have too be called salty
good day
jade nimbus
If he can't win without equipment what makes you think he will win with it. Equipment isn't all that
frozen mural
crew,modules,equipment,crew skills consumbels choice of ammo and comma all thnigs are details that help u in game ,
Some u get bij exp some helpfull stuff u can buy i find it stupid if u cant get it cous ir broke my ipinion if u don like it fine join such players in platoon and find out
civic terrace
@drifting vapor wtf are this tanks?
mortal gulch
@civic terrace His wet dreams.
drifting vapor
@civic terrace proposal for alternative mediums tanks line of Italy Nation (no autoreloading system)
@mortal gulch ah ah ah
noble stirrup
Proposal for waffentrager e100
drifting vapor
At least here on the Blitz you can hope for something more than the other WoT platforms 🤩
civic terrace
@drifting vapor cool cool but first I prefer to add the Italian tds like the semovente bassotto
jade nimbus
T92e1 and Sheridan should have 220 pen on apcr and a second better pen gun just like the T49 does
and E1 should have even lower pen
frigid compass
nah how about take away the APCR from T92E1 and Sheridan and replace it with HEAT for realism
hollow moth
Why Grille have a worse camo rating that Jagdpanzer E100?
Btw, why Jagdpanzer E100 have the camo rating of a medium tank?
prisma mulch
Is3 defender or t28 defender which one is better?
hollow moth
T28 @prisma mulch
prisma mulch
Thank you
solid gate
@frigid compass Actually if you’re do that T92E1 should be removed entirely. It’s a fake tank. Sheridan you could do just HEAT and HE on for closer to realism. You could also give Sheridan the 105mm M68 gun as well as Stingray turret and it’s gun. The Stingray would then be the tier 10. At least that’s how I’d do it. Not sure about Wargaming though.
Most tanks are fake, so why not just remove half the tech tree? 5.5 flashbacks
@solid gate
neat nimbus
So any tips for e 75 early research
solid gate
@solid gate Eh a few are truly fake but some are based on blueprints or concepts. They’re fine. But something like T92E1 shouldn’t be in the game.
T92E1 is a blueprint, it was a planned replacement for the bulldog which was "too heavy" to be a light tank, but the Russians made a new light that could swim so the T92 project was cropped for the m551 Sheridan to start as t92 was too far into design to modify to swim
T92 was never planned to mount the Sheridan turret and gun.
I cannot argue with that, but you implied the tank didn't exist, whereas if wg wanted to make it more realistic mount a different turret and gun
I found nothing about a T92E1. Heck even Fugit’s didn’t. The only T92 had a funky turret with a 76mm gun. That’s the real one. The T92E1 is fake artistic license.
I meant the E1 didn’t exist not the T92 as a whole. T92 is real but not the E1.
should've said that then
By that logic why does a comet have a Cromwell stock turret?
I suppose it'd be hard to have a 76mm at tier 9 so that's why wg made it mount the Sheridan stuff, it'd be even worse than a stock cent 7/1
I did say that but you put words in my mouth. I was specifically talking NA out T92E1 from the start not the normal T92. I’d love the normal T92 to be in game as a tier 7.
Did you mention adding the stingray ? ^
@solid gate As I just said the T92 should be tier 7 if added. Also I proposed several times moving the Sheridan down to tier 9 and give it a normal derp gun version of it’s gun just like T49 has. That would be the stock gun then you can choose a 105mm and also get the Stingray turret and another 105mm. Stingray would be the tier 10.
Only option I see if they cannot balance the T92E1 and Sheridan.
Don't you think the stingray would be op
No, no I don’t.
Being that it's from 1989 vs tanks from 60s
1984 according to TE and it’s armor is only 25mm max. Also it still wouldn’t be the fastest light in the game. That goes to RU.
@solid gate You mean sell? Not sure.
@solid gate Wait you want to get the tank?
@solid gate Then you have to push hard to get the leaf things in the even or buy it.
neat nimbus
I'm asking what I should research first on the E 75
solid gate
Turret and gun I bet.
lavish socket
Hey guys, how do you play the T28? Like besides hide the lower glacis and everything.
solid gate
@lavish socket T28 or Prototype?
lavish socket
T28
solid gate
It’s a team dependent tank but you wanna keep buildings or rocks around you at all times. Also watch out for other high pen guns as they’ll pen you easily. The gun depression is also hard to work with. I say place second line support and hope you have a good team @lavish socket.
lavish socket
Ok thanks. But I have a question, will getting the upgraded engine have a big effect on the tank or is it better off for me to research other modules first
low elk
for the T28?
gun
the tracks are pretty important in the traverse of the tank
gun
engine
lavish socket
I already have the 105 mm T5E1 from the T25 AT. So, gun first, then tracks, then engine?
low elk
gun track engine
lavish socket
Ok
jade nimbus
All this while I had been playing Panther 2 I forgot I had the E50 researched. I bought it and played my first game in the stock E50.
Never playing E50 again
crystal hare
Why
halcyon thunder
e50 is very nice maxed
solid gate
Oof
Just free XP the stock stuff lmao I haven't even played the tank but I can tell when I get it I'll love it because of the speed and armour
neat nimbus
dang i cant decide in what research first
jade nimbus
S T O C K
neat nimbus
i dont want play stock
jade nimbus
Was there any point in getting the T9 gun
You could have just grinded a little more for the T10 one
solid gate
The T9 gun is researchable on Tiger II
If I remember well, you even need that gun to research E 75
fervent dune
to be at least decent in the E 75 requires the top turret, if you are fine with slow tank get the top gun after the turret
jade nimbus
Weird that the T8 variants are still available for the E75
neat nimbus
so i upgrade the turret and gun? or turret and engine
solid gate
T28 really needs armor buff as does Ferdinand. I don’t care if Ferdinand is supposedly performing well the armor is terrible for something so big and kinda slow. Though it’s not as slow as T28 and has better gun depression.
@neat nimbus turret and engine and tracks
neat nimbus
got it
solid gate
who wants to play in tiers 9
solid gate
What is the best tier X damage dealer in all of you're opinions?i need tips because going the germany line of E 100 was a big mistake
(Ping me with answere)
low elk
whatever you find most suitable for you
cuz its the wtfpz4 thats a lotta damage
next solstice
Most mobile tanks (heaviums and meds) are great damage dealers
I personally like my E100 because sure, dpm isn’t great but with the big gun, I can just walk up, smash someone with some alpha, then get back to angling
I’m also going up the JPZE100 because it’s basically the same reload but better alpha
I’m about ~40k exp away give or take
solid gate
@next solstice im going soviet IS 8 because i messed up going for the E 100
and im stuck on Tiger II
median basin
kv2 or kv1s and why?
low elk
KV1S for actual playign
KV2 for fun and memes
median basin
also vk30.01 or vk28.01, I plan to end up with leopard 1 either way but which path?
low elk
VK28.01 for actual legit fun and good tanks
VK30.01 if you want to torture yourself
median basin
okay thanks lol
sorry im pretty new (~400 battles) so ive got a lot of q's
are there any other lines worth going down? currently have su100, leopard and kv1
low elk
the german Tiger line (E100) has good armor and is extremely new player friendly
the EU line is great though is harder
the American Light line with the T49 being so good
the ISU152 line is also great to play if you want a TD
median basin
yeah im planning to work towards the isu
solid gate
@median basin im planning toward the IS 7
median basin
last question, ive accumulated around 8000 gold (got a 90% deal early) are there any premiums worth getting or should i hold on
solid gate
does great damage and great armour.
median basin
yeah thats the route I was thinking
solid gate
@median basin well,maybe the KV5 (for good thick and damaging gameplay) or Löwe,IS-6 and T34(american)
median basin
the su100y has been suggested quite a bit
low elk
@median basin get the Rev or the T34 whatever the offer is in the shop
KV5 not worth
T44100 is bad
dont get the SU100Y this early in the game the tank isnt easy to play
median basin
t26e4 is 70% off, thoughts?
next solstice
Tree
solid gate
I just got a Caesar avatar
next solstice
Neither the IS7 or E100 are particularly good dmg dealers
low elk
dont get the T26E4 its pretty bad @median basin
median basin
ok
solid gate
@next solstice tbh,im doing IS-7 because its not a giant target with paper armour in the battlefield
well,not paper armour,but yeah
median basin
i think im just going to hold onto the gold for now then
low elk
yeah
progress in the game before using gold
solid gate
@median basin thats a good idea,
median basin
i got a 9h premium certificate and plan to get kv1s and vk today
solid gate
@median basin once i get to the KV-1s i plan to sell my Tiger I
solid gate
@median basin its damage, armour,basically everything
i need something that deals alot of damage.
like the IS-7
median basin
i see
verbal frigate
The AMX 30 B is a really fun tank but I wanna see it have a better gun, the aim time is a little high and the dispersion isn’t great compared to the other t10 meds. The gun handling also as well could use some work
abstract crest
Should I buy the Hellcat, the M4A3E8 or the M6 first?
proper slate
I'd say SU100Y I a super easy tank to play especially in a platoon
tulip sail
E8 takes a bit of skill but is a ton a fun once you get its stly
abstract crest
Kk, thx for the advice
median basin
any of the french lines good?
low elk
french line is hard
solid gate
ayyy my opinion of the chi to did a complete 180. I just got 2.7k damage game... and still somehow lost.
median basin
is there any reason to save free xp?
carmine pulsar
French light tank line is not that bad
tulip sail
Use it to upgrade stock tanks
jade nimbus
Which is meant to be the "heavier" tank IS7 or IS4?
next solstice
it used to have been the IS7
but since the Is-4's armor buff, there really isnt much point in driving an IS-7 since the only thing it has over the IS-4 is moderately better mobility and a sliver of exttra alpha
median basin
so is the is4 a better tank?
next solstice
yes
median basin
currently have kv1s, should i go down to kv3?
next solstice
Oh how the might have fallen, there was a time where the IS7 was the undisptued king-
oh for griding,
median basin
yes
next solstice
id go the IS line. Most of what you'll research is transferred to the IS-4/KV line
median basin
okay
as for my leopard, the lines are pretty convoluted but which path should I take?
solid gate
both - vk28.01 and vk30.01d are hidden gems. I play both myself.
crystal hare
I ground kv3 stock to 30k bye bye sanity
E50M is better than Leo 1
Most comp med right now
solid gate
Funny how T20 has 15 more pen on the AP and 5 more alpha per shot vs the 02 D. Also I think T20 is shorter. Only tank that might be shorter than T20 as far as I can tell is T-34-1.
solid gate
Yeah I’d recommend skipping the German tier 8 TDs. Useless buggers. One doesn’t have the armor it should and the other is a 2 shot to a lot of tanks. Both are a joke.
midnight anchor
You know alot of tanks in blitz have smoke launchers on the side of the turret . What if you could use smoke thought out the battle and the some lets you go unstpotted for 5 seconds. and cool down is like 50 seconds. Anyone eles thing it would be acool idea?
solid gate
Fugit’s and them suggested that being a cool idea on one of his recent live streams.
jade nimbus
It's a cool idea but I doubt Blitz engine can render large smoke volumes properly, and even if it could how many phones are capable of doing so
wicked oracle
Yep, they’ve already said it can’t be done atm
jade nimbus
The game can barely run as it is without bugs
median oak
@jade nimbus World of Warships Blitz has smoke. It’s doable for tanks Blitz
Just May cause issue for some devices on some maps.
noble moss
I understand they’re trying to keep old devices in mind and all but come on
They can’t use that excuse for everything
valid lodge
I think maps are too small for it
solid gate
Sorry for the suddenly butting in, but I've been grinding AMX M4 in the French heavy line and it's honestly atrocious, I dread playing that tank but I wanna know if it's worth it moving forward
tulip sail
How have you been playing it? If you play it like a traditional heavy you're not playing it right the m4 sets you up for the rest of the line in style wise (not entirely bc 1 shot vs auto ) you should be playing second line hull down as much as you possibly can using your mobility and gun
teal pollen
Hey all so I invested into the kv-1s any tips in using it?
solid gate
Ah okay makes sense
carmine pulsar
Angle your hull and play as a support heavy @teal pollen
elfin marten
Imagine if all tanks that wargaming made included secondary armaments. (Guns other than the ones that shoot as of now) like machine guns.
solid gate
@solid gate The M4 45 was fun when I played it but now it’s been power creeped. Especially by the Tiger I armor upgrade. Tiger I think has better dpm and now armor. Also Tiger is faster.
That's upsetting, I find it dreadful to play regardless. I just cant wait to get it out of my garage in all honesty
Well don’t play slow TDs either. Rip your hair out.
solid gate
Should I get the Maus or the E100 first I have both the E75 and the Mauschen I'm just wondering which i should focus on grinding?
mighty moth
maus
solid gate
you know what i think imma just wait ti see how the heavy buffs pan out and then decide
wise moth
Maus
@solid gate Telling ya right now, Maus is the biggest beneficiary. 3.2k HP is enough to easily make it top dog
valid lodge
Inferno Maus in Uprising
frozen mural
Tanks wg spring even is supertoll
teal pollen
@carmine pulsar. Thanks I will give it a shot
coral coyote
quick ore
IS-3 vs Tiger II which one is better overall?
hollow belfry
Tiger II is arguably better
solid gate
Vickers Light is a joke in one regard. It’s made up.
solid gate
@coral coyote I’m sure that is a tester.
jade nimbus
Should I get the Super P for 5500 gold, is it a good price? And is the tank any good?
solid gate
Super P? Lol no
solid trench
Offer is awesome, super pershing is good sometimes but outmatched most of the time, slow, very slow turret traverse, low alpha that low rolls alot.
tardy vessel
What light tank shall I go for?
solid gate
How to get the Blitz Nation, I want the Scavenger,Grave Digger,etc etc
solid gate
Gravedigger was a collectible tank
thin dune
hello I just recently got into the game and was wondering if wargaming going to put GUP tanks up for sale with gold again or its wishful thinking?
Needless to say that I was a fan of the anime and just found out there was a event 2 years ago and really hoping that they would still sell it again....
solid gate
@thin dune They have sold them 2 or 3 times since the event so I expect they will eventually come back. Just be patient.
thin dune
omg thank you so much
I really hope so thank you for your input!
now i can rest easy now lol
solid gate
Hehe. In the meantime you can play normal tanks. I’d recommend USSR tanks first as they are generally the most forgiving for mistakes.
thin dune
yeah they are pretty fun im experimenting with a few nation at the moment recentlly got the AT2 lol
thicc amour but ur pretty much useless good team damage soaker
solid gate
AT 2 is ridiculously hard to kill but because it’s so slow if your team falls apart there isn’t much you can do.
thin dune
yeah but it can work sometimes if you get to the places fast enough
well thank you so much for your information I will in the mean time stock up a ridiculous amount of gold and buy all the the GUP tanks once they come out again.
solid gate
Mhmm. It’s somewhat team dependent though. The nations I wouldn’t recommend for newbies are China and Japan for sure. Also some British tanks can be a challenge for new players. American tanks usually have good gun depression so they’ll teach you hull down.
thin dune
I see well I just have to experiment on what play style I get into and go on from there thanks again for your precious game knowledge.
solid gate
You’re welcome and hopefully you can get at least 1 of the GuP tanks eventually.
thin dune
yup
teal pollen
hey Guys so i use the kv-1s and i got told the best way to play with a angled hull, Now my question is if i used a hil and angled my hull down slightly with it give the same defelction chance or will it make me take alot of damage?
civic terrace
@thin dune the last time they were in sold for money not gold
drowsy parcel
Freaking stupid developers releasing a freaking broken T-22 Medium that has way too much Spaced armor and regular armor. Like, how stupid can they be to release something like that that has basically a 5 second reload and can move pretty fast. This game has gotten worse and worse ever since they released the freaking T-22 Medium and it is all because they decided to act stupid and release something like that. I don't like going into tier X tournements and seeing freaking 5 T-22 Mediums and then them all rushing and killing all of us. This game is pure garbage now that they were stupid enough to release thatt tank
Grow some braincells you stupid developers and fix your game, listen to your player base and not your freaking wallets
I would like to see y'all post the T-22 Mediums statistics
Y'all don't list it in the statistics of 6.7, show me I'm wrong about it.
drowsy parcel
@stone hill @solid gate Show us the statistics of the T-22 Medium, the best tier X tank in the game.
Prove me wrong
@everyone
solid gate
@visual jolt
visual jolt
@solid gate what?
north musk
Will I make it? Been using Sheridan
solid gate
@reef pelican What about tier 8?
reef pelican
@solid gate What about tier 8? T22 is tier 10 and OP AF. Why wont they post the stats? Like @drowsy parcel said the t22 is very OP, Kind of odd they have not posted stats on it? right?
thin dune
@civic terrace hey did u know how long ago was that and thank you for the info
quartz cloud
tulip sail
But the Pz2h was a real design
tulip sail
Ok bye
hollow notch
@reef pelican apparently the tank needs to bleed played a certain amount. Which I call bs when the t28 is shown but not the wz120ft
minor mica
Hey if the chieftain mk. 6 appears is it good to get ?
low elk
yes
great teir 10 heavymediumsuppert tank
minor mica
And the 121B ?
low elk
its good but jsut get the tech tree one instead
121b trades alpha for well
a russian playstyle
minor mica
I see
onyx venture
I really like my T28 prototype
I also blocked 4 shots from basically point blank range
solid gate
@reef pelican Sure but I meant the tier 8 stats.
solid gate
How do y’all get those charts?
ripe helm
I want to make a proposal for a new premium tank
solid gate
@ripe helm Really? What tier and what tank?
ripe helm
A tier 7 german captured t 34-85 but the germans mounted a tiger 88mm gun so it would be a T34-88
solid gate
Hehe. That’s already in PC and probably Console too so why not? Though not sure it’s German in those 2 versions.
ripe helm
Just think it might be a cool addition to the game
solid gate
It would be as would a premium version of the Czech T-34-100. The normal one is tech tree so yeah.
tulip sail
Personally I'd prefer the 75mm armed kv1
solid gate
But boy do I love the Jaguar and OF 40 Mk 1. If those were added I’d drop everything else and go straight for those 2 tanks. Blah blah blah if they are “too modern.” Any vehicle that doesn’t have composite armor and/or a smoothbore gun is fine by me. Which hopefully the Jaguar doesn’t have the former. Would be sad if it did. The gun I know is rifled though do that’s good.
@tulip sail That would be like the KV-220 except shorter hull and less armor.
tulip sail
And a german 75mm
solid gate
We have German 75mm tanks man.
tulip sail
Yes but the kv1 with a pak 40 is real while the t34-85 with an 88 is not
solid gate
Not sure about DW 2 but VK 30.01 H feels like trash since they removed it from tech tree and took away the VK 28 gun from it. They did buff it’s armor but not enough arguably.
tulip sail
The Dw2 is a t4 and isn't what it used to be
solid gate
Um ok but T-34 with 88 still is a cool idea. Besides there are only so many real tanks they can add then we’ll get fakes anyway.
tulip sail
I dont have the vk 30.01. So I've no comment. And we are no ware near that margin so why start now?
solid gate
Wait is the KV-1 you are talking the one in PC that is KV-1 (Captured)?
tulip sail
Not sure I've never played pc but it's this one
solid gate
Also maybe not but I’m just saying they will eventually do it anyway and we cannot stop them if they want to already do it.
tulip sail
solid gate
Dang!
tulip sail
The problem is we already have a fewthey try passing as real and we really dont need more (I'm fine with incorrect stats just not things like the jagdpanther 2)
solid gate
JagdPanther II doesn’t even suit the line anyway. It’s faster than the tank that follows it and arguably faster than the JP I to some extent. Also trash armor and meh gun depression. I’ll take 8 over 6 any day.
tulip sail
The jagdpanther 2 is pretty good just takes time getting used to theres a reason it's the top preforming td
(For those its necessary that's sarcasm)
solid gate
Yeah. Not my tank. I’d throw it in a incinerator.
tulip sail
Cant throw something that doesn't exist
solid gate
I mean if I could I would. If I had the power I’d delete it from the game. Ferdinand is better though that thing needs armor buff or traverse buff.
tulip sail
I dont agree its already a strong tank just look at how it's been preforming the last 6 updates it's either been top or second close behind in every one
arctic stratus
t34 independence worth the buy?
golden sentinel
When is the caernarvon ax coming out?
hollow moth
Naaah, buy IS-3
solid gate
Seem to have lost my post and answer. What do y'all think of a tier X Merkava tank? Maybe a 1970 prototype....
solid gate
@tulip sail I don’t see how Ferdinand could be performing so well. Unless it’s the other servers doing it. I hardly ever see one on NA. Heck I’m about the only one playing it right now. Don’t see a lot of JP II’s either. I’d say people who like it got bored of it and everyone else hates it.
tulip sail
@solid gate all you need to do to see why its constantly doing so good is look at its gun stats and gun handling
Both are excellent for range
violet stream
Got called a cheater for using the 15cm Pak L/38 on my WT. (This was my first match)
Some say it's the god gun of it's tier? idk though
tulip sail
Lol sounds about right
violet stream
Would have it been smarter to get the other 12cm or was it a good idea to go with second 15cm?
echo drift
Yes bc the waffle is op. It is a tier lower then the grille and at least just as good.
No the 2nd 15cm gun is the right one 👍🏻👌🏼
violet stream
I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable player around, I just point and shoot at targets I can hit.
echo drift
Then you are already above average 🙈🤣
But waffle is just op definetly keep it after unlocking grille 👌🏼
violet stream
It's a fun tank, HE magnet. But I still manage to run the most damage on my team with 0 kills.
The one trick I always use to reduce my chances of getting hit with HE, is using the back half of my tank when peeking.
solid gate
@tulip sail Ha! Tell me that when it misses the mark when a shot should clearly go in. And honestly I think the tank is team dependent. Team falls apart you are screwed.
tulip sail
Ok let me know when that happens
solid gate
The gun isn’t the problem though. It’s the armor. It can get bounces but isn’t reliable enough. The speed isn’t enough to compensate either. So you get penned a lot. Also I can show you when that happened to me. Last to die.
tulip sail
Why are you relying on its armour?
And its speed is fine for the armour it does have
Its p2w is more of the issuue
solid gate
I didn’t say I was relying on the armor. I’m just saying no matter where you are getting shot at isn’t fun.
tulip sail
The thing is you shouldn't be getting shot it's not a front liner it's a back liner/sniper
solid gate
M4 Obssessed look how things can go if the team falls apart:
violet stream
You talking about the Ferdinand? I played it on my friends account and no matter what I did, I was getting shot. Plus it's seven ammo compartments are way to easy to hit. -_-
tulip sail
The same can be said about almost any tank (obviously ignoring several t8s)
solid gate
And I screwed up here though that stupid T26E4 on my team....... Also the T49 somehow got himself killed there toward the end. Oh and T 55A bleeding hit points instead of at least trying to use the turret armor.
tulip sail
2 games out of how many?
solid gate
I don’t know. Haven’t kept count.
tulip sail
That's the problem
solid gate
Probably 10 or so.
tulip sail
When dealing with low sample size the results are easily adjusted and thus biased
Not saying you are intentionally adjusting them
solid gate
Mate instead of badgering me you should be trying to help. And I didn’t say I was constantly frontlining the dang thing but no matter where I’m at I’m getting shot at at some point.
tulip sail
I never said you were I've given several tips
solid gate
Yeah, except the fact I played the thing on previous accounts for much longer and hated it back then. Still shaping up to be a crap tank. Though still better than JPanther II piece of trash.
Well you know what tips don’t help all that much. Especially when you word them poorly so it comes off as belittling someone. Make them feel stupid. Of course we were being rude to that T26E4 but he was apparently only firing HE and didn’t even do much.
spice knoll
I created a profile yesterday,and I already knew the mechanics of the game because I had experience with other games created by wargaming.net,so I managed to get to tier 4 in 1 day but now I am missing a lot of credits to buy the next tier tank,I have enough gold to get a tier 8 premium tank and I wanted to know witch Premium T8 is the best credit farmer
tulip sail
It was the bottom performer for the longest time until it received a much needed buff about 6 updates ago
spice knoll
Does anyone know the answer?
violet stream
It depends on your play style, @spice knoll.
for me, it's the IS-6. But thats because I'm normally good in heavies.
spice knoll
I am good on mediums and tank destroyers
radiant plinth
@spice knoll yeah let me grab the forum link. Brb.
timid bison
Don't
spice knoll
Why?
violet stream
It's not a good deal.
timid bison
Super Pershing isn't a good tank.
spice knoll
K
radiant plinth
Tl;dr big number is betterer
spice knoll
Thanks
timid bison
No problem
spice knoll
Um u aid it's not good
radiant plinth
Anything like 170+ will make literal bank so don’t worry about getting SP since there are definitely better tanks.
spice knoll
Ok
timid bison
Get the T34 deal
spice knoll
The indipendence right?
radiant plinth
I would recommend the is3d but you do you
timid bison
Yup. Far better tank than the super P if you know how to play hull down.
spice knoll
If I spend all my gold I can get a Lowe
timid bison
Otherwise, the Löwe is a better option, but you should wait for a sale.
Just wait for a sale on the Löwe if you can.
spice knoll
With the big clondyke nugget I can do it
radiant plinth
Is3d is a better tank than lowe and t34.
violet stream
Question is, how long till the Löwe goes on sale again?
spice knoll
I dunno xD I began yesterday guys
violet stream
WG just likes to throw tanks up for a discounted sale whenever they please.
timid bison
Who knows? But you're probably gonna regret buying it full price when you see it 40% off a while later.
violet stream
Never buy a tank full price.
spice knoll
But the question is later WHEN
solid gate
@tulip sail Eh all I remember was a armor buff to the little slant pieces on it and Tiger P. Honestly Tiger P is the better of the 2 but that’s because it has a turret and is a tier lower.
radiant plinth
You can roll lots of good premiums from the huge container. I got my super Pershing and lowe from it for free.
violet stream
When I bought my IS-6, I only bought it because it was on sale.
spice knoll
I wasn't around when there was Lowe sale so do you remember last time Lowe was on sale?
radiant plinth
I got my is6 for free
violet stream
Crate?
radiant plinth
Clan wars
timid bison
@radiant plinth They changed the chances with the huge crates, so now the chances are next to nothing.
violet stream
Never been in one before.
spice knoll
1.5 percent
radiant plinth
@timid bison I rolled the lowe very recently. Last update.
timid bison
Lucky.
spice knoll
The chance for Lowe is 3 or 1.5percent
radiant plinth
@spice knoll get is3d. It’s the best tank in store right now for credit grinding. And you’ll actually have fun in it cuz it’s a good tank.
timid bison
Since the update that they tweaked the chances, I haven't gotten anything.
solid gate
I haven’t seen Panther 8.8 in a long time.
spice knoll
Is the Lowe better?
radiant plinth
@spice knoll or wait for the is5. Its only 1500 gold once you get clan supply 10
spice knoll
I'm not in a clan -_-
radiant plinth
Lowe is not better than is3d
timid bison
I wouldn't suggest the IS-5
spice knoll
Ima check
timid bison
It's cheap, but a poor tank.
radiant plinth
Is5 is the best bang for your buck of any premium because it’s so cheap. It’s not bad.
solid gate
Funny because recently (like just before or just after the current update dropped) I got AC IV. Though I already had the tank so actually got credits instead.
timid bison
Unless you really need the credits, I would suggest a premium that you'll enjoy for a long time.
spice knoll
The IS3D is on sale?
timid bison
Yes, but it's quite expensive. 8500 gold if I remember correctly.
spice knoll
Yup but my max is 7500
solid gate
Best credit earner is Löwe but the tank itself can be hard to play.
spice knoll
Wait for offer or get Lowe?
timid bison
I'd wait. Are you short on credits?
spice knoll
Man
radiant plinth
I’ve rolled the ac4 twice from huge crate.
Full list of free tanks from huge crate.
Super persh x2
Lowe
T23
Su100y
Ac4 x2
spice knoll
My best tank currently is the alecto
solid gate
You know at low tiers you aren’t really going to lose credits. It’ll take a while but you can earn those credits anyway.
radiant plinth
@spice knoll get to stug or crusader. They both make bank
spice knoll
Since I swapped from US tech tree to UK my win rate dropped from 55 to 45 cuz alecto sucks
solid gate
Why are you even playing that? Besides the next tank in that line is way different.
spice knoll
Check what is on tier 10 on the Alecto tech tree
radiant plinth
Matilda will make bank too. Never needs prammo.
spice knoll
Then u will know why
solid gate
Deathstar isn’t that great I hear.
radiant plinth
^
solid gate
When they first released it maybe but now it’s got less camo rating and less accuracy to boot. Not worth it.
radiant plinth
It isn’t great in the hands of 55-65 wr players either. Look at the tank charts wg posts.
solid gate
Get JagdPanzer E100 instead.
spice knoll
Wr is just a number
radiant plinth
Deathstar is Literally the worst t10
spice knoll
That drops or gets up depending on what you want to do
I think it's the most all or nothing tank in the game
Anyway I think I'm getting the lowe
timid bison
I agree with @solid gate. Jpz E100's heavy assault gun playstyle looks like a lot more fun than the death star's camping playstyle.
spice knoll
You know what messes with a level 4 build?
The Jaguar tank can deal 300 damage to a tank with 400 hp and it's fast as hell
But who controls it is a fool that thinks he can take over 3 heavy tabks
radiant plinth
Wrong image. Here are the good tier 8 premiums.
timid bison
It's a relatively newer tank, and so far hasn't been sold cheap.
It's basically what the super Pershing would look like if it were good.
timid bison
They gave the exp free in an event last summer. It's a decent tank, annoying to face, but the turret gets penned quite a lot. It has excellent frontal hull armor, but the sides are paper.
spice knoll
how is the AMX CDC?
timid bison
Don't know too much about that one, but it's fast, flexible, and the gun is pretty good compared to other mediums at its tier. It gets HE'd a lot. I do it all the time to them in many tanks.
timid bison
CDC has no armor whatsoever
spice knoll
xD damn
timid bison
30mm on the front hull
spice knoll
So I guess I'm getting it
timid bison
Lol
spice knoll
Done,now can't go back anymore
timid bison
Wait actually
spice knoll
Man too late
timid bison
Wait don't play it yet
If you don't play any battles, u can still refund it. Go watch some reviews to see of you will like it.
spice knoll
Ok
timid bison
And if you don't like it send a ticket to wargaming to refund the tank.
spice knoll
Damn I love that speed and reload
timid bison
If you're sure that you will like it, then go ahead and play it
spice knoll
I guess it will be permanent
timid bison
Support link is here btw in case you change your mind https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/?utm_content=cm-top&utm_source=global-nav&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=wotb-forum
timid bison
Mimetism?
spice knoll
The thing that got ultranerfed on the death star
timid bison
Never heard of mimetism. Death star got its camo and gun handling nerfed from what I remember.
solid gate
@spice knoll Huh? Jaguar tank? There is no Jaguar in game.
spice knoll
Mean leopard sry I always make that error
The tier 8 is sooooo good I love it
60km/h and 200 dmg turret with less than 8 secs of reload
zinc condor
RU 251?
spice knoll
Nope it is AMX CDC and its reload speed is like 5 or 6
For 200 damage
That tank is my favourite
It can make 50k in one match
viral lodge
🤔 I mean Rev makes 70-100k a match on a win.
That list by crescent is odd 🤔
252u isn’t marked and neither is Rev.
But CDC is.
radiant plinth
Ravioli makes a lot of credits but that doesn’t make it a good tank. I should have marked 252.
tulip sail
@solid gate the buff was also gun handling and traverse iirc (sorry for the late response I was on a tour)
The rev is a lovely t8
rancid mauve
What’s the website to use to compare tanks’ stats?? I can’t remember it
rancid mauve
Yeah blitzstars is what I was thinking of! Thanks man!
kindred night
Best money maker is lowe
tulip sail
Nah the best is the one you can play the most effectively
kindred night
Bruh that obviously depends
Lowe has one of the best credit coefficients out there
W premium time+ credit boosters and a good battle u can get 130-150k not counting what u wasted during the battle
tulip sail
Yes but if you cant play it you wont have that good battle
civic fiber
^
scarlet rapids
How fast is maus rate from 1 to 10
Im just stuck wondering why its called "mouse"
halcyon thunder
because there was a planned upgrade called the ratte ("rat")
kindred night
@tulip sail im talking about which vehicle makes the most money, all of what ur saying depends on the player
tulip sail
That's my entire point is that you can have the highest coefficient but without the skills to use it it's not going to make as much as fast as the tank you can play
hollow notch
@kindred nightthe lowe has higher repair and ammo costs than the type 59 and spersh. The one that I usually grind for credits is the type 59
solid gate
@tulip sail Dude the what traverse buff? It’s only 38.34 with the traverse equipment.
low elk
yeah well its not that big of a cash puller
hollow moth
Also, do not grind on these tanks
The T23E3 is the best of these three, but if you have another premium, use it
solid gate
T23E3 is a better Comet. Only thing Comet has that it doesn’t is a bit of armor.
hollow moth
Type 64 have a light weight and a light cost
hollow notch
Type 62 and type 59 are the way to go
hollow moth
Same tanks but different camo and different name
But also some little differences in some numbers
I even risk say "who pays for Loza's Sherman paid for a worse free tank"
Cuz it's basically the same stats, bit the aim is a little better, while it's slower and the frontal armor of the turret is worse too
tulip sail
I feel personally attacked rn
hollow moth
Bruh did you paid for that? @tulip sail
tulip sail
Yeah I have every Sherman
low elk
stonks
tulip sail
No each is different
solid gate
Aim is a bit better
Looks at the stats saying 0.29
Looks at other Sherman’s with 0.362
tulip sail
Tho the loza and fury are technically the same variant but the loza has actual historical significance
Though I thought I've mentioned having every variant before
hollow moth
@solid gate while it have a worse engine power ratio and and maybe a worse turret
Even worse gun angles
@tulip sail yes, you said this
tulip sail
I ment before now then that would imply I bought the loza (unless there was an event for it that I dont remember)
hollow moth
Tbh I think this tank is dumb, there is more iconic real tanks but at choose this one and not so much differences
solid gate
??? Do you seriously mean that
hollow moth
Loza's history is glorious, but the tank in WOTB is very unexpected, that's what I mean @solid gate
There is very low differences
And the only reason to be in the game is make money in the history of a hero
low elk
laughs
fury
hollow moth
At least fury is even better than the free "copy"
But it's the same concept of Loza's Sherman in the game
Make money in another tank, at least a non realistic one
solid gate
sighs Why even play stupid tier 8 German TDs? Even if I do well my team sucks. Patience doesn’t help either.
tulip sail
The tanks entirely realistic just not what it was supposed to do ;)
Because the rhm is a fun derp tank
onyx venture
TDs were never meant to carry the team😉
tulip sail
^
solid gate
Not on that one yet.
tulip sail
But the wz120 would argue against that @onyx venture
hardy sparrow
@onyx venture they're just support to counter act heavies
solid gate
Well I’m sick of NA players. Screw them.
Blame 5.5 update. Too many newbies and idiots because of it.
tulip sail
There we go good complaints
onyx venture
On of the things I was hinting towards was Jaguar being a good player and caring his team by himself
solid gate
Who the heck is Jaguar?
tulip sail
But that last part was true even before 5.5 that just made it easier to get to top teir and he means you @solid gate
onyx venture
You @solid gate
solid gate
Heh. I can rarely carry a team and that’s not by design. A bunch of luck is involved.
Update 5.5 failed ultimately and wargaming knows it
hardy sparrow
Well I’m sick of NA players. Screw them.
@solid gate you mean the american and mexican kids?
solid gate
Well I’m trying to play Ferdinand better but these teams suck. Not camping in spawn but relocating isn’t easy with it and that doesn’t do anything if your mediums and heavies suck. Sometimes hard to know who to support too and they can die then you die. Anything can happen to make you lose. Losing wouldn’t be so bad if we didn’t have streaks.
onyx venture
You had the opportunity to say you do carry the team single handedly and you blew it😡
solid gate
Because I don’t carry the team. I just do what I can.
But sadly these losing streaks are turning me off.
tulip sail
Nobodys making you play it might be wise to take a break
onyx venture
At least you're honest
solid gate
Mass protest is what will do something to the game but the fan base is so hypocritical as demonstrated here it’s just another shattered dream
Well we should band together to undo update 5.5 but as you say it probably won’t happen. We’ll just keep having players do what I just did. Blaming each other for lack of skills and whatnot.
Of course I blaming a group or 2. You have the newbies who don’t understand the tanks and the game and then you have trolls and the like. People who just don’t care at all. Though a lot of NA players (not saying other servers don’t have these) don’t care. They’re kids or just people who don’t care at all. I’m not saying we should take the game as seriously as I might seem to do or as others do. However, people need to learn the game so they aren’t “ruining” it for themselves and others.
hollow moth
@solid gate boycott would be more effective, but welp, wallet warriors and kids don't stop to spend money
neat nimbus
Any tips for the FCM 50?
lyric oriole
Play moderately agressive against other mediums, FCM 50 T has both good armor and mobility for it's class. It's a decent ramming tank.
Also don't be afraid to push up on other heaviums such as Chieftain T95 or IS-3
FCM Is an underdog IMO it is very versatile, but the limelight gets stolen because something can perform in one area better. It's a good All-rounder tank
leaden timber
I don't get it... Caernarvon Action 10... Though it is handsome (like other british does) I can't find anything better than original tech tree Caernarvon.. I heard that though it has quite a similar turret as Super Conqueror does, it is not as good in being a hull-down scenario..
Also its gun is the same gun which fully-researched Caernarvon ( Type B barrel )..
Is Caernarvon Action X worth it?
whole shale
What we all need: E 75 lower glacis plate nerf it is too op plus everyone gets e 75
And a fv4005 (I think that's the name) needs armor buff bruh 14 is less than tier 1 armour and tier 1 can pen so yeah..
vast pewter
they need to either decrease the reload for panzer 5/4 or make it more accurate, as well a give a frontal turret buff
it's only good for ramming
solid gate
Panzer V/IV is nice but yeah the turret is not good.
@whole shale It’s supposed to have crap armor because the gun man. Though it doesn’t have the gun it should because backlash from FV215b (183).
whole shale
@vast pewter the pz is op enough
solid gate
Hehe. No it’s not. The Rampanzer is ok but it could be better.
cerulean wing
Can’t wait for that Super Conquerer
minor mica
WG should add in the WTF E100 to blitz
cerulean wing
That would be abit too deadly
cerulean wing
Doesn’t the grille take its place?
cerulean wing
The German tech tree in blitz is pretty balanced now, but if that tank were to be added, relating to the damage. That’d be way to much
Grille is fine
minor mica
Yea I know just want to see what other people would say
frigid compass
"German Tech Tree in blitz is pretty balanced" bro you're like 1 month too early for April Fools
minor mica
Watching some replays of that tank before it got deleted from the game
cerulean wing
Thanks for the enthusiasm
minor mica
I still think about that is-4 player getting three shotted by the WTF E100
thin dune
hey all
wise moth
Nah, WT E-100 should be a 4 shell 460 alpha autoloader with 2.5s between shots
neat nimbus
if they add wheeled french dont doubt of rngs everytime
wise moth
@neat nimbus Wheeler French vehicles would be almost impossible to hit on Blitz
Heck, I can barely hit them on PC with a KB/M, let alone an iPad
neat nimbus
well at least we got exclusive tanks
whole shale
WG needs to add oh wait NO DONT ADD TYPE 5
But beside little kid op tanks (the e100 line is bad enough) add in some more tanks from pc
dapper panther
Wheeler French vehicles would be almost impossible to hit on Blitz
@wise moth
if WG added them, they shouldnt be faster than lttb. 70kph+ is undrivable in blitz, way too slippery.
Uprising proved that.
calm inlet
no, if they have good enough terrain resistance, they can feasibly control going 80 (which is the highest i could imagine Blitz devs would allow them to go)
unfortunately, it seems like the devs have established a 65 kph cap for light tanks at Tier 10, which is lame
hollow moth
@neat nimbus if you see a lught tank, ram it, even another medium, just ram
I have one and made 1200 dmg in a sheridan just in one ram during a room
solid gate
Didn’t the Hellcat go like over 80 kph in real life?
violet stream
The Waffenträger auf Pz. IV's 15 cm Pak l/38 is just stupid OP for it's tier. -_-
frigid compass
according to wikipedia it had 72kmh top speed on road @solid gate
but then again the accuracy of speed values isnt what wargaming cares about
solid gate
Wikipedia isn’t always reliable since anyone can edit it.
frigid compass
im too lazy to go on tanks encyclopedia or whatever
solid gate
I see. Well Wargaming may not care about accuracy of speed values but they do need to buff the turret traverse of the Hellcat.
tulip sail
What would you suggest it be buffed to?
frigid compass
the Kpz-70 has a way WAY more inaccurate speed value than the Hellcat
halcyon thunder
It's already in the t6 meta, from what I see (tog 2 meme tourneys)
solid gate
Well if Wargaming doesn’t care about historical accuracy then they can and should do that. The turret cannot keep up with the hull.
halcyon thunder
lol look at t7
frigid compass
if everything got their accurate values the maus would have no armor against kpz-70 and the kpz-70 would be an overpowered tank going at like 70kmh
halcyon thunder
also sheridan would be more op than it is now
solid gate
I wouldn’t be surprised if that was true.
frigid compass
but sheridan wouldnt be able to shoot over rocks or turn the missile that good
solid gate
Sheridan has the wrong missiles.
frigid compass
because early ATGMs sucked
tulip sail
The slow turret traverse is one of the hellcats balancing points (although its not much of one bc you can just play it like a casemate
frigid compass
funnily enough the hellcat has the same turret traverse as the KV-2 which has a heavy hand cranked turret
solid gate
Eh I always hated Hellcat’s slow turret as it made it hard to shoot anything. Even sitting still with it you couldn’t track and shoot lights and such very easily.
violet stream
So turn your tank with the turret
solid gate
You have a lightly armored tank with great speed and hull mobility but the turret lets it down.
tulip sail
Play it like the jagdpanzer
solid gate
Not saying I didn’t do that but the turret cannot keep up with the hull traverse. Still a bit difficult to hit anything you can’t track when the turret turns so slowly. The thing is less of a TD and more like a light tank with a big(ish) gun.
But I digress. I don’t play that thing anymore. Moved on up to T25/2 then T28 Prot.
tulip sail
Oof I feel bad if you're playing the t28 prot
solid gate
Still I wouldn’t recommend Hellcat or T25/2 to new players.
Better than the T28. Gah I hate T28. Such a bad tank.
tulip sail
Not at all there skill tanks played fir the challenge
Theres a reason the t28 is low on the scale every update
halcyon thunder
t28 prot is quite nice
solid gate
Because T28 is slow and unlike Prot it does not have a turret and gun depression. Both though have annoyingly weak side armor. T28 though has bad frontal armor too.
halcyon thunder
Prot has worse frontal
solid gate
Yeah but you don’t rely on that armor. Though the turret has stupid weak cheeks which is dumb.
halcyon thunder
Otherwise its a nice tank
solid gate
The gun is what’s nice. The armor isn’t what it should be for something so slow.
halcyon thunder
It used to be a lot better
solid gate
I wonder if there was any other option for the tier 10 in the Hellcat line. I mean I hear E4 isn’t great after you’ve played T30. T30 would seem to be the better tank tier for tier.
halcyon thunder
It is, from what ive heard
solid gate
Probably because the turret can turn 360 degrees and doesn’t have an as easy to hit cupola on top. E4 sounds like it’s been left behind.
solid gate
@frigid compass hellcat actually had a powered turret traverse system just some of them were often hand cranked
frigid compass
@solid gate i was talking about the WoTB's hellcat turret
it has the same traverse rate as a heavy KV-2 hand cranked turret
tulip sail
@solid gate the m18 with the m26 turret was hand cranked iirc (wich is what there talking about
onyx venture
I'm able to deflect a good amount of damage with the front of my T28 prototype
They key is to angle it slightly, not too much because then you expose the weaker sides, mainly do anything that effectively increases your armor. So shooting down from the top of a hill to somebody is better because the angle they view it at makes it harder to pen the front
Like the other day I went on a tiny slope and angled slightly in front of like 3 enemy tanks and deflected about every shot
Since the gun has good gun depression it's wise to do it too btw
But if you're on a hill do not be facing down as if you were going down the hill it makes the angle worse
viral lodge
the main T28 Prot weakness is the turret cheaks
onyx venture
Also due to its slow traverse speed and limited Turret traverse, if you encounter a light tank trying to circle you, try to back up into a corner or wall or anywhere that won't allow it to circle you. Once you got that down try to keep your front facing them even better if you can maintain an angle in that situation
You can kind of move the turret around and mess up their aiming
frank berry
As a t28 proto player with 500 games i can safely say that moving the turret around to mess with their aiming is useless, you just have to angle your turret slightly towards whatever cheek they're aiming at and be ready to switch to the other cheek
then they give up using AP and start spamming Pramo and you can take them out with the good dpm but then you'll only be down to a 2 shot from 105+mm pramo
safe rock
echo drift
New crate tank. The Wt auf EBR 105 II 12,8 U (e) with all round spaced armor and 70% camo on the move while firing
Don‘t take this serious pls. I want to light up your day ❤️
low elk
i like the name
a true man of culture (or woman)
echo drift
I honour my name alot by being the nicest person in chat. I love those who focus me for my name or clantag and i totally appreciate teammates that camp on hills with e100‘s 🙂
kind summit
How do I use the su 152 well
low elk
magicks
just camp bush with the derp gun
kind summit
Ah yes
low elk
or use the 122 gun that has 3kdpm
kind summit
Ok
balmy parcel
The WZ-131G-FT is good?
wise moth
Decent? 131g FT is broken OP
Literally a more accurate, higher DPM version of the tier 8 Type 59 gun on an incredibly stealthy platform with great mobility
inland osprey
WZ-131G FT does have some insane camo, it can outspot most tanks of its tier
plucky merlin
Tiger 2 turret or gun
solid gate
WZ-131G is the only tank in that line that I’ve found good so far. The T-34-2G FT is just a worse SU-122-44 and the WZ-111-1G FT is complete trash.
wise moth
@karmic field Yeah, 280 alpha that can lolpen pretty much everything it faces with fantastic DPM, and the camo is amazing
I literally have ~1850 DPB in it lol
solid gate
I actually really like the 111-1G FT...
As long as you don’t have the stock gun on it
low elk
you evil being
now go out there and kill more T22s
solid gate
dirt bag
called by a T22
Laughs in skill
regal aspen
What one of the promo tanks are the best
stable hill
Love the M4/FL10. 🙂
somber rampart
Same here. I wish they added the M4A1/FL10 but the M4FL10 works
mortal gulch
FV4202 or STB-1?
low elk
STB
solid gate
@solid gate The gun isn’t the problem. The stock gun still has the same damage as stuff like T28 and has slightly better AP pen than the top gun. The problem is the armor and how slow it is. It’s not quite as bad as T28 arguably but it’s not a good TD.
For M60 (pulled directly from TE):
Armor scheme progression by version/ degrees of inclination (version) *equivalent of RHA.
Gun mantlet: 114 mm/60 *131 mm (M60), 130 mm/30 *260 mm (A1), *292 mm (A2), 130 mm/30 *260 mm (A3)
Turret face: 178 mm/55 *217 mm (M60), 208 mm/55 *254 mm (A1), *292 mm (A2), 208 mm/55 *284 mm (A3)
Turret sides: 76 mm/55 *92 mm (M60), 115 mm/55 *140 mm (A1), 121 mm/90 *121 (A2), 115 mm/55 *140 mm (A3)
Turret bustle: 51 mm/80 *92 mm (M60), 58 mm/80 *66 mm (A1), 64 mm/80 *73 mm (A2), 58 mm/80 *66 mm (A3)
Turret Roof: 24 mm/0 *24 mm (M60), 25 mm/0 *25 mm (A1), 31 mm/0 *31 mm (A2), 25 mm/0 *25 mm (A3)
Hull glacis: 93 mm/25 *225 mm (M60), 109 mm/25 *257 mm (A1, A2, A3)
Hull beak: 85 mm/35 *131 mm (M60), 143 mm/35 *249 mm (M60A1, A2, A3)
Hull sides: 74 mm/90 *74 mm (M60, A1, A2, A3)
Hull rear: 41 mm/60 *47 mm (M60, A1, A2, A3)
Rear engine bulkhead: 30 mm/30 *60 mm (M60, A1, A2, A3)
Fighting Comp. Floor: 19 mm/0 *19 mm (M60, A1, A2, A3)
Engine comp. Floor: 13 mm/0 *13 mm (M60, A1, A2, A3)
somber rampart
Good
tawdry horizon
Who got the type 62
halcyon thunder
good for price but meh for tank
elfin orbit
Type 62 still bombs
solid gate
6.9 will buff HP for havy tanks, but we should also buff the HP of havy TD
Like Jg E100 or the T95
remote ibex
T95 is just fine
solid gate
Wich gun? The first have good damage the second have good penetration
barren heath
Top gun with 160 alpha is by far superior @solid gate
solid gate
Are u sure?
barren heath
Yes
You have more DPM, much more pen on both your premium ammo and standard ammo
It’s playable with the 220 alpha gun of course if you really like having more alpha 🤷🏻♂️
short flame
@solid gate isnt alpha gun just vk30 P gun suitable for a tier 6? ofc its trash compared to other gun, its like 1000% more accurate
hybrid stone
Is T67 a op seal clubing tank
low elk
only on PC
not in blitz
hybrid stone
🤔
feral basin
Guys anyone know the crew train 75% cost at tier 8 and the upgrades cost from lvl 1 to 3 ( like gun rammer , extra HP ) ?
DM or PING me if you know !
Thank you.
balmy parcel
@solid gatethe ultimate cannon for fast reload
But your dmg is not the best
160 alpha
hollow moth
Panther reload can be good, but not as the "freedom machine gun" aka T23E3
tulip sail
I was hesitant to get the t28 def at first and wasn't sure I was going to like it but it's a whole lot more fun than I ever thought it would be
hoary verge
cerulean wing
The T28 Defender is amazing, I used it to farm hp- so far the average damage I get in that tank is 1500
hollow notch
...
onyx venture
I only have the T28 prototype and I really like it, so I have to imagine that the defender is really good
solid gate
T28 can hold it’s own. Defender is good. Both tanks work.
viral lodge
Defender has stronger turret cheeks I think
lyric oriole
They are identical actually @viral lodge
barren heath
I dislike the traverse of the defender t28, which is why I like the is-3 defender much more
viral lodge
Really? I feel like the prot has easier to pen cheeks, must just be what tanks I’m driving when I encounter each type
lyric oriole
The Mantlet is Stronger on T28 Defender, but not the cheeks
viral lodge
Well good to know, thanks for the correction.
long schooner
Does anyone know how much gold i will earn for sale fcm36pack 40?
solid gate
Hey, somone can give me a tips how to play better leopard 1?
solid gate
T28 is a little slower on top speed.
Just started playing it. Very fast. The gun is sweet. Your camo is good. I’m not sure how good. You will get hammered if not careful.
low elk
never heard people put "T28" and "good" together in one sentence
solid gate
I was talking about Leo 1 at the end.
low elk
was wondering
neat nimbus
T34 is good if you know how to drive also I don't recommend use prammo
If you want inflict damage a lot
solid gate
T34 doesn’t need much prammo. It’s pen is on par with T28 and T28 Prot.
onyx venture
T28 prototype is good, there now you've heard them both in the same sentence
rocky garden
Does the T-62A play the same as the t-54lwt? I’m having a terrible grind in the t-54lwt and I might as well quit now if the T62 A is basically the same tank.
solid gate
T-62A is a medium. T-54 Ltwt is a lighter version of the T-54 (mainly on armor).
hoary verge
Any idea on what damage is needed for mastery on the T1 Heavy?
low elk
its pretty high due to the massive amount of sealclubbers
hoary verge
Yeah, I think I will wait off it until people play it less
I'm trying to master each tank, already got a few low tiers which was nice
halcyon thunder
@hoary verge probably 3k ngl
vernal grotto
What do you think about the panther/m10?
onyx venture
I really like this tank
mortal gulch
Is this tank worth spending gold on?
final adder
it's meh tbh
the best part about it is the 460 clip dmg in around 2.6 secounds of first shot. it's best in a room with another one so you can just clip most tier 6 lights meds and td's. armor is trash it's tier 5 at tier 7. and it's got good view range ok avg speed. other then that it's got the Italian style autolodder which is the only best part about it.
also it has trash camo and -6,8 gun angles.
@ @mortal gulch
sharp gale
So I’m around the same place as the person above. It would be around $15 for me to get the fl10. Is it worth that?
final adder
if it's your first perm don't I'd wait till a mod 1, progeto 46, type 59 other tier 8 meds to get offered cause alot of tier 7 meds from tech trees can deal with it and overall a better choice aka (pather, kv-13, p.43 ter, lttb)
sharp gale
I have... a lot of prems. Like I’ve been on this game 5 years and taken part of a ton of events. Spent some here and there
final adder
then yea it's kinda meh more of a collector's tank then anything else
sharp gale
... I just counted. I have 44 prems
final adder
I mean is ok nothing really makes it great tho and this is coming from a 58%er that gets around 1600 avg in it.
sharp gale
Yeah when I got the game I was in 7th grade and I’d get in my t2 light and go into t10 games and try to ram them. My wr before I got serious was like 38. It’s a hard journey back up but I just made it to 50 and people finally respect me
But yeah, especially with all the pop up ads I’m getting I got the m6exp for $9 and that’s so much better. I’ll just wait for more
final adder
yea and don't get the exp
if you have it sell it cause it's pretty bad. one big ass weak spot on top and shit side armor. just wait for them to finally put su-130pm in store and buy that cause it's a Russian skorp
wise moth
No comment on the 130PM, but the Skorpion G is super OP and definitely worth waiting for
mortal gulch
@final adder Thanks. Those gun angles sucks.
I'll save my golds I accumulated from watching ads for now.
normal anvil
We need
neat nimbus
elemental breath or crimson fury?
crisp gust
Sheridan penetration need buff
change my mind
unborn fulcrum
the 50 120 does not feel like it has 6 degrees of gun depression, it feels like 2
unborn fulcrum
my lego grille has less depression then the wotb one lol
solid gate
Wich tank are good? Tank destroyers or heavy tank