Yeah but lacks of Alpha damage.
#vehicles-discussion
glass relic
elfin orbit
Thats real i think, cant tell if those are atgm launcher or recoilless
hollow moth
First, this tank is an arty, the only arty that WG wants is ATGMs, BT-7 Arty, T82 and Alecto
Second, it's unarmored, slow and a worse Jagdpanzer copy
Third, we already have grille @solid gate
solid gate
It’s one of many cool prototypes ,we like diversity
hollow moth
Yes we like diversity, and a worse breeding of two good german TDs isn't diversity
Diversity is a new tech tree with a interesting play style, like the Ho-Ri A.K.A. tier 10 ferdinand
woven stone
So wait what tanks came out in the store today and how much do they cost?
I know the Defender MK.1 is one of them but idk how much gold it’s for
hushed shadow
15k for defender. 8.5k for is3 defender or t28 def.
Or get them all for 25.5k
Which would’ve been 51k gold if WG didn’t give their 50% discount :)
solid gate
German/Italian prototype Leone
alpine notch
@solid gate It can be one branch out from Standard B and voila, Italian Tier X Leopard~ 😆
hollow moth
@woven stone I would recommend hold the wallet for a better tank
IS-3 Defender isn't interesting
woven stone
Yeah I’m was planning to save my gold for like the WT-120-1-FT when/if that comes for gold
solid gate
@solid gate Already knew about that one I did. Would love for them to add it and the OF 40s as mediums.
plucky junco
@solid gate it was real and was planned to land at dday but the auto loader had a tendency to fail
So they canceled the project
upbeat river
fringe mulch
@solid gate its a abrams reskin
solid gate
@fringe mulch Perhaps it is what that other guy said. Military Today wouldn’t label is that if it was the Abrams as they already have the Abrams variants.
fringe mulch
Maybe...cant say it doesnt look like one
solid gate
Actually it looks wrong in some ways to be a M1 reskin. This is the M1 Abrams:
See the difference? Even the turrets are not exactly the same.
fringe mulch
The shape of the turret is differnt but other than that
Prototype that lead to the m1 is mostlikely what it is...maybe idk
solid gate
Well it’s still not the M1 itself regardless. I like the tank so saved the photo.
Still my favorite of all is the OF 40 Mk 1.
solid gate
It doesn’t even resemble the abrams turret in anyway also @solid gate most recent abrams variant that’s been made is M1A2C sep V4 is just a concept
Woops wrong guy
@plucky junco that Sherman uptop didn’t have an auto loader iirc nor was it ever planned to be used it did have flame throwers on it
solid gate
Who’s Darkness @solid gate?
plucky junco
Really? @solid gate I heard that those 2 cannons on the side were 183mm auto loading rocket launchers
solid gate
Who the hell claimed that?
plucky junco
Wait they weren’t auto loaders
They were revolver style rocket launchers
@solid gate it was called the t31 demolition tank
fossil fulcrum
Is the T28 Defender worth it?
grizzled dock
Yes
fringe mulch
Lol
wicked oracle
Solid tank
tulip sail
@plucky junco they were 182mm and the 105mm was a dummy gun but the 7.2cms had several problems with it as the left entirely froze and the right being hand tunable only
plucky junco
Oof
If they could of gotten it to work it would of of been rather effective at killing tanks too
The panther was notorious for having overhardened armor which made it easier to spall
tulip sail
Possibly but with how m4 production stopped it wouldn't have been great
Also it wouldn't have fought panthers since it got canned in 46
plucky junco
O
tulip sail
Yeah they quit funding it entirely
solid gate
@plucky junco panther having god awful armor is often exaggerated while it’s true german armor was often of terrible quality it was more or less still pretty decent roughly in later panther variants such as panther G the problems panther was known for became smoothened out and had more quality armor
Yeah after the M26 got put into production and more prototype tanks started to roll out etc t54 t69 t29 family and m41 bulldog its pretty understandable why the US stopped building Sherman’s a lot after the war and genuinely while a concept such as that T31 sounds great on paper it would have been a nightmare in production and maintenance and most likely very impractical
fringe ember
Which one should be objectively better for is-6, V stab or refined gun?
tulip sail
they should have dabbled more with amphibious shermans or other wacky things @solid gate
solid gate
I would love to see a properly modernized Sherman
tulip sail
@fringe ember it depends more on your style of playing it if you prefer moving a lot more or even brawling id say v stab but if you like taking timed shots defenitly refined gun
that would be very interesting to see
solid gate
That gau Sherman model seems very applicable aside from that one joke modern Sherman on the site
tulip sail
Lol true
So what m4 thing do you think would add the most to blitz
I strongly say the t12 device for meming and the m-60 for a more serious thing
solid gate
Personally I wanna see the 122 SO Sherman ingame
tulip sail
Same here that would be pretty cool
solid gate
Maybe that Pershing turreted Sherman if there’s any info on it besides a photograph
solid gate
Nah I got the image saved on me
tulip sail
Hunnicutt wrote about it
solid gate
He did? Ohhhh I remember a short stanza about it
solid gate
Y’all see the fake Sherman’s I showed? One had a 105mm French gun.
im australian is there a way i can get the ac1 sentinel please
Great try but no they don’t make exceptions
zealous anchor
Lol
zinc condor
Obviously buy them
solid gate
This thing is what I was talking about:
Also this weird thing again:
This one is from TE: (It’s an Argentina Sherman with the 105mm L44/57 FTR gun.)
Ahh I remember this one they have a unique name but they are repurposed fireflies
Repotenciado
Yeah. I like the M4A4 hull one better than the Hybrid hull one. Same with Firefly. The Firefly we have in game is ridiculous looking since it has the Hybrid hull design. Also Sherman V in game has that same hull when it should have M4A4 hull as the Sherman V is the M4A4.
tulip sail
personally there's something about late a3s that i just love the look of
solid gate
The upgraded turret is so pleasing to look at on the Sherman
Apparently Firefly in game is the IC or IC Hybrid. I’d rather have the VC though. And the Sherman V is just completely wrong on the design.
neat nimbus
Why having some modified shermans WG did that to the British one
Firefly is just a m4 tier 6
tulip sail
because shermans are great
neat nimbus
What about German captured ones?
solid gate
Well the Firefly ok but using the Hybrid (perhaps/probably the M4 Composite) design for the Sherman V was an error.
There are not a lot of German captured ones really because they didn’t really modify them
tulip sail
there still shermans so yes thre great
solid gate
Wargaming needs to correct the Sherman V model now that I look at and think about it.
neat nimbus
Well maybe they got limited resources to do it
M4/FL10 should be easy to get if there's a event is not really op what I was told
tulip sail
they modified a ton of other captured tanks
neat nimbus
Like which ones? @tulip sail
solid gate
So is the Pz IV Schmalturm made up or did Germans consider such and idea?
Didn’t they also fit the German cupola on some Churchill’s? @tulip sail I could have sworn I’ve seen some images on the server about it
tulip sail
where would you like me to start? by country or type
neat nimbus
Country
neat nimbus
Alright
I think I need to watch ads if WG scam us with new event is coming, read it very well may WG remove it later
Would be mess if they make a not op tank unobtainable in a event
solid gate
Also that M4A5 Super Sherman is supposedly from or connected to the Final Impact novel (series) according to the Flickr poster. However, since there was a M4A5 (US designation for the Canadian Ram tanks) then that thing should probably be named M4A7 just like a commenter on that thread said.
tulip sail
btw im only giving the long name if it doesnt have a short one
solid gate
I cannot find that other Sherman tank that is clearly a fake. Looks kinda like it has a T-34-85 turret or something like that on it.
neat nimbus
I know m4/fl10 may not be so good but kinda want it by the fact does look cool with camouflages
tulip sail
marder 1 auf geschutzwagan lorrain schlepper (f) [my favorite ] 10.5cm leFH 16 (Sf) geschutzwagan FCM (f)
neat nimbus
I wonder how it looks with crimson fury or desert wind
Did ever existed a French sherman
solid gate
What? You mind rephrasing that
tulip sail
@neat nimbus yes several
solid gate
@solid gate I think he meant was there ever a French Sherman tank.
frigid compass
probably as they also had panthers
solid gate
You know what I’d do? Roll out a whole division made up of OF 40s and Jaguar MBTs.
tulip sail
They used a ton of surplus m4s for a while
They often added panzer 3 cupolas to kv tanks as well as t34s
limber falcon
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. J, what's so special about it? Why does it cost 1k gold?
limber falcon
So is the Panzerkampfwagen II Ausf G, but it only costs 50gold.
solid gate
The Js the juggernaut panzer 2 right? Iirc
tulip sail
Yes
limber falcon
Or all the other Low tier Germans.
tulip sail
A lot of those used to be tech tree the pz2 j was a premi that was sold only a few times
Also the J has 4 players in 90 days while the G has 27
limber falcon
Anyone has 950 gold to spare? I want to test it out.
solid gate
Pz II J I heard wasn’t super great except the armor way back when. Now it’s complete trash. I wonder if they should add more of the earlier Panzer tanks though.
tulip sail
They have most of the early panzers (except panzer 1)
solid gate
U guys donate tanks?!
tulip sail
No
solid gate
Oh lol i thought u do
tulip sail
No they used to allow you buy stuff for other people but people abused it
solid gate
How could they abuse that
tulip sail
When you start a new profile you get free gold
And they would make numerous accounts and farm money
solid gate
I got like a few. Im new.
@tulip sail I thought they didn’t have some of the Panzer IIs that PC has in Blitz. And yes the Panzer Is are missing. Also we only have 2 Panzer IIIs. Not sure which one the tier III is. I think it’s the tier III now and not IV.
tulip sail
We have 4 of the 3s though I thought we had more
solid gate
Pretty sure we only have the Pz III A and whatever the tech tree variant is.
limber falcon
I have an idea, why not start the German Tech tree with the Pz I?
@solid gate the III we have had no Ausf, it seems to be a mix of every Pz III.
solid gate
Pz II is tech tree and the II G is collector. Not sure if II J is still premium or not.
@limber falcon That’s odd. But looking at it it should be toward the aust E. Not saying it is the E exactly but on the latter end of the letters used.
limber falcon
I know.
tulip sail
@solid gate we do however the tech tree has 2 different turrets and 2 different guns
@limber falcon because a 7mm mg isn't a good idea in a tank game
solid gate
7mm mg is literally an AK caliber
tulip sail
Oops big thumbs I ment 8mm
halcyon thunder
Pz II J is collector, and is very bad now since 5.5
tulip sail
Pretty much all low tiers are
solid gate
Low tier is honestly a forgotten wasteland
next solstice
I want the old lower tiers back
limber falcon
Having the Leichtraktor as an attachment to Tier X German tanks would suffice for me.
sturdy bane
i support this ^
hard lagoon
Same
solid gate
A maus with 2 leichtraktors. 1on each side
zinc condor
UE 57 riding on 50b hull
limber falcon
@zinc condor no, Renault FT on thr 50B.
My idea is to have the old Tier 1 as memories from the past, like a "How did we get here?" Attachment.
elfin orbit
Renault ft would be perfect to put on foch 155 flat top
solid gate
Man the T28 needs better side and frontal armor.
solid trench
With the armor given to MK1 , yeah the T28 needs more frontal armor...but given the pen on T8 meds it doesnt need more, the MK1 has just too much turret armor (254mm has FV215b tier 10)
solid gate
Like Wargaming doesn’t buff tanks that really need buffing as much as they do tanks that don’t need it as much. Pershing needs a buff, T20 needs one, Panther II as well, T28, WZ-111-1G FT, and I’m sure I could think of more.
lyric oriole
254mm on the turret isn't too much. The hull isn't strong + it lost the Sideskirts Centurion has
solid gate
The ELC AMX Bis has such a unique playstyle. Sidehugging enemies 24/7 is the name of the game. Too bad it doesn't have a 360 degree turret like in WoT PC.
grizzled dock
Ye but it’s still super fun to play
solid gate
Yes. Terrible in the hands of noobs but a plague in the hands of a competent player.
grizzled dock
^
solid gate
Rushing heavies and seeing them panic is very satisfying.
grizzled dock
Lol its also the damage
rose venture
Is there anybody here who doesn’t think the panther II need a buff?
Also I can’t be the only one who thinks the Vk 30.02 D got neglected in the tier 7 buff wave...
lyric oriole
Both are pretty bad right now tbh, Panther 2 has nothing going for it, and VK 30.02 is in the same situation as Panther 2 being that pretty much every other Medium is a better choice
solid gate
Oh, yeah. VK 30.02 D was meh but now with all the buffs it’s going to be trash. Too bad they may not buff the pen much since the tier 6 VKs have that same gun. Really they should have put another tank at that tier with a better 88mm gun.
@lyric oriole Also what you do mean 254mm on the turret? Turret of what? And lost the side skirts of the Centurion? What does that mean? You talking about Defender Mk 1?
lyric oriole
Mk. 1 Defender yes
solid gate
Ah, thought so.
Also random now. Type 98:
AMX M4 45 was forgotten in the tier 7 buffs too. It’s just a worse Tiger I now
Type 74:
AMX M4 45 does still have better pen and 5 more average alpha than Tiger but I don’t disagree that it will be crappy now.
hollow moth
Fun fact, FCM 50 t isn't considered as premium by blitzstars
elfin meadow
you finally figured it out didn’t you
solid gate
Odd
next solstice
I really just got an Ace just for this lmao
solid gate
This is the Type 63A:
west yew
grizzled dock
When you ask why did the revalorise had crap Sherman cast hull
last viper
Comment if this should be added to blitz
devout tapir
No
limber falcon
@last viper What is that cursed thing.
solid gate
How do you not know what the EBR is
last viper
I play pc. I travel a lot though so I don’t have my rig
So I gotta play blitz
@bright folio I do play actually
bright folio
Not talking about you.
last viper
I have it on pc but it would be cool on blitz
cerulean falcon
I'm a new player and I'm searching for a good medium tank tech tree to grind
I'm thinking either Japan, China or Brit tetech tree. Any suggestions?
somber rampart
Russian tech tree is good for new players
cerulean falcon
for medium tanks?
I'm already grinding for the IS-7 on my russian tank tree
and the Jgpz E-100 on my German
both are still on tier V for that matter
somber rampart
Yeah
cerulean falcon
Ooh ok
I'll check em out
thanks
somber rampart
No problem
solid gate
So FTR has some tanks that still haven’t been added to any WoT game. Such as American TS and TL tanks.
broken turtle
idk why is-2 tank is in chinese tech tree. It's a russian tank
and some t-34 model too
somber rampart
Probably because the T-34 in the Chinese tech tree was probably given to them by the Russians
solid gate
The Chinese IS-2 is basically a Russian IS-2 sold/given to the Chinese.
Anyway these are my 2 favorite tanks:
somber rampart
They look alright
alpine notch
It's so weird on Chinese IS-2, not having Soviet 122mm gun in Blitz, it could be an extra gun for fun and extra depression for more hulldown plays..
solid gate
bat chatillon bourrasque for me
limber falcon
@solid gate What are those tanks?
solid gate
if there was a T-54 defender, it would be awesome.
zealous anchor
@solid gate what are they
runic yoke
@solid gate T-54 ltwt. defender will be better
olive sky
American T-55 and Italian OF 40 which basically is a Leopard 1A4 @zealous anchor @limber falcon
zealous anchor
Ah okie
dusty shoal
Make Sherman Firefly a tank destroyer and also give BT tanks a mode to run without tracks. And add the BT-42 to the game, please.
And you could add T34 caliope.
solid gate
@olive sky No that first one is not American T-55. It’s called the Jaguar MBT. It’s a joint project between China and the US.
@dusty shoal Calliope would be hard to add since it has rockets and a gun.
@zealous anchor @limber falcon They are the Jaguar (as in my nickname and pfp implies) and the OF 40 Mk 1.
olive sky
@solid gate the Type 59 that the Americans and the Chinese upgraded was based on the T-55s. The name of the project is T-55 Jaguar
solid gate
@olive sky Well whatever. So we’re both right. Just it didn’t say it had the disinflation T-55 before the word Jaguar. And it really doesn’t look that much like the T-55 in the end.
olive sky
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
Panzerwerfer , M4 Sherman Calliope and ZiS-6 Katjuša on Blitz would be exceptionally funny
How much credits do the m6A2E1 without premium and boosters ?
teal radish
hello
tulip sail
@dusty shoal why would the firefly be a td? It was a cruiser that packed a punch and the British even used it like a cruiser
solid gate
Aight so I can restore once again and I have a choice between Kuro Mori Mine, Scavenger and Su76i and T150, which one would you recommend?
crystal hare
Scavenger
grizzled dock
No t-150, no su,: go for kuro or scavenger.
latent crane
Amx 12 T worst t6?
solid gate
T150
grizzled dock
Amx 12t trash
grizzled dock
Breh I just see one in my kv-2 and it’s sent back the garage no sweat. 1300 is low for the 12t
hollow notch
Just got the m46, and god that thing sucks while stock. A tiger 1 is better that it at everything except gun depression and prammo pen.
solid gate
Amx 12t is fun. Just always need an escape plan.
solid gate
Scavenger isn’t that great. Also Kuro isn’t that special.
crystal hare
Scavenger is a nice med with above avg damage
solid gate
I don’t think it’s that great despite that. It’s ok but not great.
crystal hare
I enjoy it
sly horizon
Hey I am a bit new to this chat anyone want to play a match with me I am gonna use the su-100y
tulip sail
You'll have better chances at #502019319417405441
solid sonnet
Stock T54 gives me PTSD of grinding stock tier 9 BC
gleaming hollow
Same
solid gate
Stock anything sucks. Especially at the mid to high tiers.
Leopard 2 is developed early 1970 , was operational 1979 . This might be a good medium/ heavy tank for the game
No
balmy parcel
I need help guys the M4/FL10 is good?
Is my first autoreloader
sturdy topaz
@solid gate what was developed in 1970 is completely different to what it became in 1979
solid gate
If Leopard 2 has any sort of modern composite armor it’s a no go.
@sturdy topaz also I want to point out how it’s a A5 and up model
Now the OF 40s and Leone are options. They didn’t have composite armor and used 105mm rifled guns.
In fact any MBT could be a medium or heavy as long as it didn’t use anything beyond spaced armor. As in no modern composite armor. Oh and it has to have a rifled gun. Smoothbores aren’t an option.
hoary verge
Bought this tank after seeing meadsy's review and agreed, it is great
grizzled dock
@hoary verge
lyric oriole
The mid tier American heavies are all pretty good currently
hoary verge
Yes the smasher is also great xd
plucky rain
@solid gate Scavenger (use rof gun) and T-150
frigid compass
@plucky rain Scavenger with RoF gun is basically a ripoff Panzer 4
plucky rain
Except Scavenger can hull down like a Type 59 in Tier 5
frigid compass
except the turret is terrible
plucky rain
wiggling?
frigid compass
the weak area is big enough that wiggling wouldnt do that much
plucky rain
derp doesn't have good pen either
might as well restore everything and then keep as a gold reserve
dusky wigeon
Hey guys how to get the badger tank I already had fv215b 183 and I didn’t get badger
low elk
you wont get it
grizzled dock
Badger is a collectible
hollow moth
@dusky wigeon you have to wait the promotions (tip: it's ultra expensive)
solid gate
I think Scavenger is kinda slow for a medium too. T-150 has some decent armor on the other hand.
grizzled dock
T150 weak. Scavenger is more fun
solid gate
Nah. T-150 is awesome other than being a bit slow. They did buff it’s armor but I think it’s still not great. I’ll give you that.
alpine notch
T-150 is more like stock KV-3 before current buff, sounds right about it
cerulean wing
T-150 is pretty strong, if you know how to use the tank. Angling this soviet heavies Armour is the most powerful this you could do with it
solid gate
How do people get the chi to reload under 5.9 secs? i have top gun and the modification that costs 100000 silver
is there anything else i didn't do?
cerulean wing
Crew experience? Consumables?
solid gate
consumable? which one?
cerulean wing
The food?
frigid compass
thats provisions
@solid gate you need full 100% crew to get the best reload
so basically just grind more
solid gate
ok thx
shut spoke
I can get the VK 36.01 H rn should i get it or the VK 30.01 P? i heard 36.01 is a lot of fun to play as it has good armour and dpm
cerulean wing
Yes it has good armour, but if you get hit in the lower plate your engine might have a chance of getting knocked out. I’d recommend going for the VK 36.01 H
shut spoke
Thanks thats what i was thinking i just wanted to hear y'alls opinion
frozen patrol
They should make the kv2 a dead end and put the t150 as the tier 6 in the is-4 line. Change my mind:
violet stream
I'm working towards the Grille, I hear it's really accurate. (Sorry I'm a nub)
hollow belfry
It has very good dispersion and shell velocity, but the gun bloom is sometimes a bit painful
torn remnant
solid gate
Camo rating and traverse might give you nightmares too
torn remnant
Feel the Defender
hollow belfry
@solid gate agreed, the camo is absolute garbage, one of the most annoying this for me when I play it
dusky wigeon
Omg fv215b 183 is so hard to play
dusky wigeon
Horrible accuracy and low gun depression
And hesh round do same damage like kv2
One time I did 725 damage for one shot
violet stream
Weird, when I get hit my HESH it's normally 900 to 1k
dusky wigeon
725 damage for ap round
solid gate
@torn remnant Hey Ezio!
Defender Mk 1 has more view range than the RU. 304.4 vs 298.2 (or something close to .2).
torn remnant
Yes but I think the Defender cost al little bit to Much 50€ for IS3 and T28
solid gate
Yeah, Defender Mk 1 is a bit expensive right now. Also I wasn’t playing it right. Gotta hull down the thing as the hull is trash. Though it’s not any easier to hull down than the Centurion it’s based off of.
rancid shale
^
dusty shoal
@dusty shoal Calliope would be hard to add since it has rockets and a gun.
@solid gate He would just have missiles and wouldn't fire a cannon
solid gate
Calliopes rockets aren’t guided and would be a nightmare of a module to implement @dusty shoal
dusty shoal
they would fly quickly like the M4's hub
lyric oriole
Massive Multiplayer Online...
solid gate
@dusty shoal WoT Blitz is a mobile MMO silly.
fast compass
I am just curious what he thought MMO was
dusty shoal
Massive Multiplayer Online
I too EnglishI don't know much English and I have to translate it and some sentences may be difficult for me to translate
Maybe what Jaguar wrote [ITC_] @Retry_CZYT WoT Blitz is a mobile MMO silly. So it worked out in my tongue @Retry_CZYT WoT Blitz is a mobile stupid MMO.
fast compass
Meant no offense. Was just curious. I guess meaning was lost in translation. I am still unsure what exactly you wanted but i hope you gotnyour question answered
neat nimbus
i should start grinding on this or use free xp so i can be ready once japanese TDs are there
solid gate
@dusty shoal It is true and MMO does mean Massively Multiplayer Online.
Sucks you cannot watch old replays from previous updates. Especially the funny ones.
frigid compass
tog is the worst tier 6 change my mind
low elk
@frigid compass i disagree
frigid compass
how is it not bad
low elk
because i can farm on it
i mean
i can farm it
frigid compass
the only thing good about it is that if you're facing it you're gonna get good damage
low elk
tell everyone that that tank is bad and i wont have anything to farm on teir 6
to be fair this is even worse VK 30.01 D
bleak abyss
IS-7 needs a hull buff, just add a little bit more armour so your not basically butter
hollow moth
@frigid compass I might like the tank because of the high DPM + tier 9 HP
But it's slow as F***
My wr is about 66% on it so I'm technically satisfied
woven bobcat
What is wrong with Obj 140 legendary camo after this update?
low elk
@woven bobcat doing a gamewide replacement of texture and model files bugs are bound to happen
formal holly
Should i get B-C 25t or maus
solid gate
One is big and slow. Big gun. Other one is small and fast. Your pick. Bat!
median oak
None of the above.
hollow moth
Bat Chat have a very funny playstyle but it's not a easy one @formal holly
I recommend you get a medium tank instead on Bat Chat
hollow moth
Same tank and wasn't affected by B1 nerf @latent mauve
lyric oriole
B2 is weaker, worse gun and armor overall, sure it ever fights tier 5 but it can't even hold it own very well
latent mauve
b2 has preferential matchmaking it doesnt fight tier 5 at all unless youre in a platoon @lyric oriole
lyric oriole
Yes I mentioned that
latent mauve
must be me not reading right lol
calm inlet
idk, they have their pros and cons
B1 is the better tank but with that preferential MM, id rather take the B2 over a long course of battles
proper slate
I was wondering I'm a jg pz e100 player have about 1k battles in it but will it ever get a legendary camo?
crude eagle
On the promotional image WG used the rounded grizzly style M4 hull, when in the game they use the more simple, welded E8 construction style hull
Immersion breaking
halcyon thunder
maybe a model rework idk
hollow moth
@proper slate relax, all other tier 10 premium tanks will get legendary camo before us, that's why I use camouflage mods
tulip sail
Uhh E8 has nothing to do with the hull just the suspension type which on the fl/10 is the regular HVSS instead of the e8 vvss. The Fl/10 has an early m4 hull while the promotion has an m4a1 hull
@crude eagle
Sorry my mistake it's an Sherman V hull
solid gate
It’s Horizontal Volute Spring System and Vertical Volute Spring System right? What’s the difference between the 2?
tulip sail
The early Sherman's and m3 mediums used vvss and they were a bit less robust and also had more ground pressure with less travel of each arm
solid gate
Ah. Also what’s with the ‘s? Autocorrect?
narrow rampart
@tulip sail negative ... Early M3 and M4 series used VVSS
Mid production used another variation, with a trailing arm for the return roller and the late war tanks introduced the wide track (66in) HVSS
@crude eagle yeah, that picture triggered my OCD Shermaholic senses pretty much 🤓
neat nimbus
So m4/fl10 I guess I have to spam su-100y y both tier 8 T34s
visual jolt
@neat nimbus wouldn’t recommend the Su-100y, considering you have to average over 2200 damage
neat nimbus
@visual jolt then what other tank you suggest for quick grinding on the event
wise moth
@neat nimbus Literally any tier 10 works
neat nimbus
I'm at tier 8
neat nimbus
Or using gold
hushed shadow
You can also reduce the amount of gold you need to spend
visual jolt
@neat nimbus Well you could try to grind out a higher tier tank between now and then. If not then just play the tier 8 you are best at
neat nimbus
I have 1655 probably more if i watch ads right now
visual jolt
@neat nimbus I wouldn’t recommend spending a ton of gold on the m4/FL10
neat nimbus
Also is good if I spam Both t34s since they deal more than 200 of damage
visual jolt
@neat nimbus can you average 2200 damage per game in your t34s?
neat nimbus
Rarely I haven't seen it
My plan is watch ads right I much I can and during event just spam both
visual jolt
Again, I wouldn’t recommend you spend a ton of gold on the m4. It’s cool to get for free but not worth a lot of gold spent
If you have to drop a few thousand gold, you’d be better off saving it for another tank
neat nimbus
Like which ones are worth
visual jolt
@neat nimbus You would save up your gold even more and then wait for a good tier 8 premium to hit the store
neat nimbus
Normally I'm against fictional tanks since I can't enter to realistic mode on them
visual jolt
When it does hit the store, just ask here if it’s good or not and you will get answers
wise moth
M4 FL 10 isn't actually a fictional tank (it's a real tank used by the Egyptian army), but yeah, I wouldn't spend too much gold on it
Better to save your gold and buy an IS-5 when you reach clan supply 10 so you can have a reliable credit grinder
neat nimbus
Actually with fictional I meant ones such Dracula and defenders
I have reached level10 I'm indecisive if I save the gold for more garage slots or buy is 5 which I doubting if good according how I do play
wise moth
@neat nimbus Do you have a tier 8 premium yet?
visual jolt
@wise moth he has both t34s
wise moth
Oh, if you have a Lowe, than there isn't a pressing need for you to get an IS-5
visual jolt
Yes
wise moth
Garage slots is probably the play then
neat nimbus
I got gift card and used gold for it
wise moth
Just save the gold until there's a sale on garage slots so you can get them on a discount
visual jolt
@neat nimbus Also what tier 8s do you have?
neat nimbus
Then the Christmas event I got ten thousand of gold which I used for t34 American
Let's see I have the AMX 50 tier 8 p44 tiger 2
visual jolt
Ok well just play the tier 8s you feel you are most competent in
To get the most emblems
neat nimbus
I mean is good WG make this type of events
Skills not pay to win (this one may contradicts what I said)
visual jolt
I prefer events like these that gauge ability over mindless grinding
I hate grind events
But I do them anyways 🤷♂️
wise moth
@neat nimbus Mad respect to you for being basically one of the only newer players I've seen that doesn't hate on events like these
neat nimbus
Panzer 4/5 isn't really bad
wise moth
like seriously, MAD respect
visual jolt
@neat nimbus The ram panzer is fun
neat nimbus
I like events that's puts me on my limit
To prove myself and be see what I'm capable
neat nimbus
Even if I don't get the tank I'm looking forward for this type events
wise moth
2300 at tier 8 will definitely be hard, but with some skill and a little luck it's definitely possible. Good luck to you good sir @neat nimbus
Also, you're right in that all you need to do is get close, and you can still probably get the tank at a steep discount
neat nimbus
I really like western front getting cool camos is awesome
Or the other one I still have the desert wind camo
I would like WG revamp the nightmare for stug 4 and makes the camouflage available as legendary a long with a one changes the name for daydream
visual jolt
@neat nimbus actually the Nightmare and the stug are different tanks
neat nimbus
Oh I still want a camouflage changes the name for daydream even if doesn't give concealing
in case you were wondering here´s a proof
fun fact i won three or two battles in the new map
fringe mulch
Congrats
neat nimbus
i felt like i was a beat
fringe mulch
How does that work...idk
neat nimbus
i dont know i go with the rest
fringe mulch
Lol
neat nimbus
probaly some were dumb
fringe mulch
Believable
neat nimbus
something tells me is gonna be really though
fringe mulch
Im just gonna use the gold i didnt use yet to get me ahead with that
Because i really want that tank
neat nimbus
does this have a good camo masking? because i need to know
lyric oriole
No, it's not very stealthy
Unless you are talking about if the camo equips are sensitive to corners which I'll have to check
next solstice
What a dumb ace
lyric oriole
This should give you a good idea
neat nimbus
dang well guess i save that crimson fury cert for other one
dang event is gonna take during this weekend and probaly miss part of the event
solid gate
Is the M4/FL10 good ?
lyric oriole
It's pretty solid, not a good defending tank, but it's good when pushing through a line
solid gate
Nice. The autoreloading system sounds interesting too. I hope I can achieve these 2286 DPB
small crow
AMX CDC is a good tank?
solid gate
Yes, but it’s sort of skill requiring. A bit like a tier 8 Leopard 1, great gun, great mobility, but big and unarmoured.
tulip sail
@narrow rampart yeah that's a my bad I should have caught it before posting but my tour showed up so I didn't double check what I typed before hand
dusty shoal
you could add game mode to tanks that didn't make it to the battlefield because they were prototypes.
tulip sail
That's what I wish realistic was
grave mauve
Why didn't my message post?
tulip sail
The bot probably filtered it for some reason
grave mauve
yay
dapper panther
I always wondered why was Löwe's legendary camo removed at the first time to remove a symbol of a regime, WHILE soviet tanks' flag still has regime symbol since the game's release
halcyon thunder
pretty sure its 16k @neat nimbus
low elk
@neat nimbus you will need 150000 damage over the course of 70 games if im not wrong
im not too sure
neat nimbus
Dang that's gotta make me be busy hope if I can use at least 900 of gold
halcyon thunder
avg 2300 a day and you should be fine
neat nimbus
Tell me that I have only two prem tier 8
low elk
what are those prems
neat nimbus
Two t34s
low elk
they are not that good for farming damage
neat nimbus
What other tanks you suggest
low elk
teir 10 if you can
neat nimbus
I can't
low elk
best tanks are tank destroyers
neat nimbus
I have only su-100y
low elk
oof
then try to do the event and if you cant, use gold
neat nimbus
Watch ads will help me hopefully
zinc condor
Good luck then mate
solid gate
SU-100Y is insane for farming damage. 4 penned shots with prammo is over 2k damage.
mighty moth
@solid gate um no. Its only 1600 bro
halcyon thunder
@mighty moth umm no. Should literally be spamming prammo
proper slate
@mighty moth SU-100Y prammo does over 500 each shot so its over 2k damage with 4 shots
low elk
no prammo on 100Y no game
proper slate
^^^
neat nimbus
I managed to survive on it sometimes without prammo
low elk
one does not simply play the SU100Y without this kind of loadout
neat nimbus
I ammo racked a kv 1s once
proper slate
SU-00Y gets ammoracks all day long
hollow moth
I don't do it because these are expensive shells but it's so fun spam them @low elk
Guess soon i'll restore this tank, too much fun guaranteed
solid gate
@tulip sail Surprised I didn’t catch that thoroughly either. Somewhere in my mind I was probably confused by your statement but I played that off. I had work to prepare for anyway. Or bed if that was last night.
proper slate
I only use prammo with su100y and still gain more than 20k from each win with provisions
solid gate
I like how the guy @ me with a pointless wrong point, then got instantly proven wrong and wrote nothing more. Even if he was talking about normal ammo it still does over 1800 damage with 4 shots.
brave basalt
Does su100y have preferential matchmaking? Played a few battles, still haven't been bottom teir
Nevermind
civic terrace
No only the b2 and valentine have it
solid gate
Perhaps funny to add Gepard PRTL anti air unit that also is able to take out light and medium tanks , with on each side also 4 stinger missiles that also could pirce heavy tanks , due the usage in manny country’s its something for the hybrid tech premiums
somber rampart
I don't want a modern flak toaster in the game.
hollow moth
It would at like the Tier 5 leopard in the tier 10 lol
dusky stone
Shoot down missiles too 
hybrid stone
T67 is not op
red grotto
what's better, T-28 Defender or IS-3 Defender?
dapper panther
T28
waxen jungle
so I trying get tiger II an that route to E100 but should I go for Leopard or Pz VI G route but heard tiger I an II been buffed 😀
fringe mulch
Pz4g @waxen jungle
hollow belfry
@waxen jungle Pz. IV Ausf. G
solid gate
He’s suggested the leopard 2 aswell while showing a picture of the leopard 2a5-6 🤦♂️
solid gate
Which clip tank to tier 8 is best? What do you think?
lyric oriole
Premiums included or tech tree only?
solid gate
Tech tree i am not rich :D
lyric oriole
Hmm, I would say AMX 50 100, Good Clip potential and Penetration, good mobility, though the armor isn't exactly "heavy" as it states so be careful not to expose yourself to Large Calibre HE shells.
solid trench
Pantera 44 for constant dpm or Amx 50 100 for amazing burst dmg and pen
ebon tide
Hello,
The is-8’s penetration is horrible for the 1st and 2nd gun...how do you Guys expect us to get to win/get experience points with that? If you can pls make the penetration better.
Thank you.
lyric oriole
If you are using IS-8 you should have the BL-9 from the IS-3.
Using the Stock gun on the IS-8 is your own fault. Instead of rushing to get a shiny new tank, take the time to Research all the modules. If you had the BL-9 on the IS-8 your grind would be much easier. 225 penetration is also very good for a stock gun. If this is your first tier 9 and you are having issues with the BL-9 I expect you will also run into many issues upon any of the Medium or light tank lines.
solid gate
@ebon tide How many total battles you got?
ebon tide
I have the 2nd gun, whatever its called and I’m still having trouble penetrating tanks like mausetchen. The other modules dont have an effect on the pen of the tank. @solid gate above 3k
solid gate
Ok. This your first time playing the game? No re-roll accounts or anything?
ebon tide
No i had other accounts but they weren’t legit, i got to or above tier 5 in all of them
solid gate
Well I made the mistake of rushing up lines before we had update 5.5. Heck under +2/-2 matchmaking I went up the worst line you could all the way to tier 9. The British heavy line. That line was horrible back then. Definitely not newbie friendly and heck not even good for average players back then. Still rushing up lines when you don’t know them well enough is a bad idea. That’s my point. Learn the line (lower tanks in the line especially) first then move up.
ebon tide
I made a mistake... see i only calculated the fastest way up to a heavy tier X and here i am, back then i was obsessed with heavies
I’m too far in to restart so i can hope the is-7 is worth it
solid gate
Everybody wants to get to tier 10 as fast as possible except someone like me who tried that and saw it didn’t work. I started over with the intent to grind more slowly than before. Learn the tanks I had been to before better before getting to the tanks I don’t understand how to play. Also about the IS-8. From what I hear it’s probably okish at least but not great. Oh and IS-7 isn’t the beast it once was I hear. IS-4 I hear is better than IS-7. But you have to go through KV-4 which is power creeped imho.
ebon tide
@solid gate What X tanks do u have
lyric oriole
You don't have to restart.
Also IS-7 is currently the worst tier 10 heavy
lyric oriole
Not much, the DPM and Premium ammo penetration are really low with bad accuracy and an exposed ammo rack. The only other tier 10 heavy that's close to being as bad is VK 72.01
solid gate
I don’t have any tech tree ones. I was one of those crazy fools who bought a few premium/collector ones. 121B was nice for me and Badger had some decent battles. Chieftain Mk 6 I couldn’t figure out very well and hated. It’s decent I guess but the Mk 6 isn’t OP or anything like that. Tricky to play that tank.
As for tech tree you probably should go for IS-4 @ebon tide.
lyric oriole
Rushing up tiers isn't a good idea but if I can't convince you otherwise I would suggest trying the Soviet Tank Destroyers
ebon tide
Wow... that sucks 😦
lyric oriole
Preferably the Obj. 268 line
ebon tide
How long do u think that will take
solid gate
Yeah the Object 263 line isn’t great from what J can tell until you get the SU-122-54.
lyric oriole
Idk, but they are very easy to use
solid gate
I know people like Meadsy say if you own the ISU-122S you don’t need the SU-152 with 122mm but I like both with that gun. Also SU-152 has a slightly better camo rating than the ISU.
ebon tide
Do the is-7s still have an intimidating vibe or its utterly useless to get
solid gate
I’d say no. Same with KV-4. That thing used to be a menace back in the day. Especially to tier 7s. Now not so much.
lyric oriole
It's not utterly useless its just very low on the totem pole.
Dabble in some other lines in low tiers for a bit and find what suits you, generally tier 6-7 will give you the best idea of how the rest of the line will function with a few exceptions
ebon tide
Kk
solid gate
Sound advice from Misspelled_Username there.
ebon tide
I think i will multitask; continue with is8 and dabble.... thx guys
Btw do u think that there will be any events that give u gold
solid gate
Don’t know. Anyway I like how everyone says IS-2 premium is better than IS armor wise yet for me the IS felt better on the armor.
lyric oriole
Np, if you have other questions don't hesitate to ask.
Some do give gold but only a little bit at a time. A good way to get gold over time is to watch ads. Sometimes Blitz Also gives gold during Christmas or their Anniversary in Late June
solid gate
Save that gold up and either enrich a tech tree tank you like or buy a premium tank.
ebon tide
Thx guys, @lyric oriole r u a dev?
lyric oriole
Nope, I'm a community helper.
(Basically I've spent way more time playing than I should have 😅)
ebon tide
Lol...yea same q for me
lyric oriole
Answering questions, helping the community, a clean record, sound stats, as well as having been active in the vocal Community such as the forums when they were bustling with activity. Get voted in by moderators here. I Still abide by All the rules the rest of you do I don't have special powers or anything, I'm just orange 😋
ebon tide
@lyric oriole What r ur usernames in wot blitz, i wanna friend u...if u dont feel comfortable in giving ur username in public chat here’s mine: CAPTAIN_REX_501st_ ...pls add @solid gate
lyric oriole
Same as here, I have to keep it identical here cause I have the Vet role
solid gate
Idk if your friend req for me ever went through I’m p sure it did
lucid moat
Yo if i wanna git gud at med tanks what tree should i grind
solid gate
I don’t think I’d be getting that then. I’ve been muted here 2, maybe 3, times and have raged and ranted on the Forums before. I wouldn’t say I have a clean record. Though haven’t been banned completely for anything so not doing super bad.
ebon tide
@solid gate That’s normal
lyric oriole
@lucid moat try the Soviet Meds, they give you a general idea of a medium role
solid gate
Just there are tanks I hated so much and see as inferior to other tanks. Some people disagree with me on some of those tanks but some tanks everyone knows are trash. Tanks like T28 are complete trash while if I or someone else brings up Crusader or Pershing there will be a long winded argument.
lucid moat
The premium t28 is a bruh moment
ebon tide
I quit for British on coventor or whatevs it’s called
solid gate
Premium T28? You mean the Defender? That’s a totally different vehicle than the T28 mate.
lyric oriole
@solid gate I sent one a while ago but it's acting like you didn't accept it
ebon tide
I kinda liked French, German and ussr
solid gate
Cov was removed from tech tree sadly. Also it’s pen is kinda weak. Sadly they probably won’t buff it anytime soon.
lucid moat
Wait im dumb i was thinking of a different vehicle
ebon tide
Add me... but won’t be able to accept today
lucid moat
I was thinking of the t28 HTC
solid gate
If Wargaming has done more research and thinking I think the British medium line could have turned out better. In fact the Crusader shouldn’t even be in that line. Too slow for a light and too weakly armored for a medium.
@lyric oriole I’ll see if it’s there when I go home I swear I did accept it and even sent one in return
Centurion is also bad because big and slow plus low alpha. My opinion but I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t have fond memories of that tank. Centurion I should be tier 7 even if it has to lose some penetration at the very least. The problem is what to replace it with.
lyric oriole
Centurion 1 has been lacking for a while, it's not a fantastic vehicle overall. It needs the 20pdr OQF Type B barrel in my opinion because it would give it slightly better accuracy and DPM
solid gate
Yeah but Wargaming doesn’t seem to want to give it the second 20pdr. Ridiculous. I’d rather have a Cent Mk 5 with a weaker alpha 105mm (310 alpha instead of the 350 on the 7/1) at tier 8 and move the Centurion I down to tier 7. Comet could join it’s brother the Cromwell at tier 6 and lower it’s dpm. Crusader should be replaced by the Centaur (a slower Cromwell) and be made a tier IV premium/collector.
comet
tier 6
W H E E ZE
Um Comet would fit at tier 6. You cannot change my mind.
Just have to nerf the dpm and maybe the turret armor ever so slightly.
hardy cliff
Comet fits at tier 6 he's right.
solid gate
But the problem is what would be put at tier 8 if we remove the Centurion I from that tier? Cannot find anything with a gun bigger than the 20 pounder until you get to the 105mm Centurions and the like. But the 20 pounder is weakened because of the stupid Russian 85mm guns which are a tier lower to 2 tiers lower. Curse those 85mm guns.
Hmmmmm. I see 2 potential British TDs. Chobham was the proposed armor for the Chieftain SPG (which looks more like a TD because the way the gun is fitted) but sounds to me like that kind of armor wasn’t fitted onto the prototype. Also TE mentions a Conqueror SPG and they made an image of what it might look like. It too looks more like a TD.
graceful brook
Does someone know the names of the future japos TD?
hollow belfry
@graceful brook
graceful brook
@graceful brook
@hollow belfry thanks😉
solid gate
So there’s 3 Ho-Ri TDs? Hmmmm. Confusing.
wary ferry
Hey @forest ermine 🤗
forest ermine
Done 🤗
hollow moth
Imagine, you're in the middle of the battle and in a discord of the voice chat you say "focus in Ho-Ri, it's chasing me" and your platoon mate will need to know if it's the tier 8, 9 or 10
low elk
they have version numbers
hollow moth
Btw this Chi-To SPG don't looks like an SPG
low elk
SPG means self propelled gun
does not always mean arty
hollow moth
I tried to Google the Chi-To SPG and got type 5 Ho-Chi 15cm
And this one isn't even close to the Chi-To SPG that blitz bot sent
Btw this Ho-Ri T.I looks like the Chi-Ri version of jagdtiger
solid gate
How to I get the fastest reload? My VK30.01D top gun currently gets 7.8s, and i bought the rammer and load premium consumables. I know people will say crew, but I've seen people get 5 seconds reloads. Did they nerf it?
low elk
you have a 50% crew prolly
solid gate
Crew won't lower it by 2.8s
Is their a hidden crew modifier? When I tap crew, it just shows me crew skills.
low elk
are you sure about that
and they priolly using a diffrent gun
solid gate
No, I am using top gun.
low elk
they use consumables
solid gate
I use consumables
low elk
this
solid gate
It only lasts for 15 secs.
They have it all the way through. See Littlefinger on Blitz's video.
low elk
are you 100% sure they arnt using the 75
solid gate
It think it got hit by the big nerf stick lolwhat
There are only two guns and I am using the one with the fastest reload.
low elk
no it didnt
you are using the 88
which has higher alpha for longer reload
the 75 has less reload
solid gate
The VK30.01(D). Open the game client and check it out. Both guns get same alpha.
low elk
ahh ur talkiing about the teir6
CREW
solid gate
But crew can't lower it by like 30%
solid gate
How can i see my crew? When i click on 'crew' it just shows skills.
low elk
just play the tank as is
and you will get the crew to 100
solid gate
Oh... How much xp will it take?
low elk
just like 20 games
should do it
depends
solid gate
SPG in some cases is like an SPATG (Self Propelled Anti Tank Gun).
solid gate
Wait the actual Chi-To based SP AT Gun was called the Ka-To. Looks nothing like this Chi-To SPG Wargaming has. Also what about the Na-To?
hollow moth
Update 7.0: WG is adding type 82 Na-To and type 46 Us-Sr
solid gate
Honestly Wargaming isn’t that good at researching. Though obviously researching at least some tanks is hard as the documents are/were lost, destroyed, or locked up or kept somewhere out of reach. Still Wargaming could do better.
hollow moth
Yep @solid gate
The blueprints and the idea of the Vk 72 is be a "lighter Löwe", even the nickname of the tank was Leichter Lion (means light lion) and the nick name of the "real Löwe" was Schwerer Löwe (heavy lion)
In theory the Vk 72 would be lighter than Löwe, but Nope, Vk is T10 and Löwe is T8
solid gate
Heh. According to some that did research (namely the FTR peeps) the VK 72.01 K should be 72 tons. But Wargaming made it like 120 tons in PC and it’s about as heavy in Blitz. It’s way heavier than it should be.
hollow moth
Another cool fact, in WOT and WOTB the Obj. 704 is much more armored than irl
solid gate
I don’t even know about the gun. Probably shouldn’t have that gun either. Oh. Didn’t know that. I need to do more digging on stuff like that. But first I want to look at those Japanese TDs again. Do we have any 75mm TDs at tier 6?
solid gate
Iirc the 704 uses the su 152 howitzer how ever I do believe there were plans for the BL-10 but since it was unneeded they didn’t follow through with it
Well AT 8 has a 17 pounder which is 76.2mm right?
hollow moth
I don't remember
fringe mulch
I would like a italian TD in wot
solid gate
@fringe mulch in War Thunder too
fringe mulch
Yeah lol
solid gate
Italian TDs would be Italian casemate SPGs and a Italian SPG/TD that looks somewhat like the Waffentrager. Unfortunately due to gun sizes they can only go up to tier 7 then you’d have to make crap up.
fringe mulch
Ik it would be cool tho
I would like to have the Semovente da 90/53 in wot it would be nice in the tech tree
solid gate
And I’m not sure about these versions of Ho-Ris WG has come up with but I cannot find but ones with 10.5cm (105mm) guns. One version has a sloped front and the other has the 37mm from the Chi-Ri. Anyway we could have other Japanese TDs.
Also yeah, Italian SPGs as TDs would be best choice for Pan-Euro TDs.
fringe mulch
Im goin to try again to post a pic of the Semovente da 90/53...hang on
Oh well cant....
Ill dm ya the pic when i can
proper slate
Do other people have much higher winrate on premium tanks than tech tree not the op premiums(which i can't afford) like the glacial, su100y, t55a etc?
@stable hill thanks ill check once i get home
fringe mulch
@solid gate yeah that looks like it....its just i have a pic. for the real life one 🙁
solid gate
@fringe mulch Pretty sure TE has it too. I didn’t grab all their photos.
solid gate
Anyway there is an FTR deal about Swiss heavies as well. The VFZ 69 tanks they show are Panzer 74 variants. I think these could be done. However, if Wargaming added Panzer 74 (with 105mm gun) as a medium like in my line then something different would have to be done for Blitz than what FTR suggested for WoT.
@fringe mulch Yeah. It would break the flow a bit though since it seems to have a rotating gun mount. The rest would be casemates including the one with a 105mm which I think would be the tier 7.
fringe mulch
Yeah
It would actually be nice to have a full tech tree of only itialian tanks...personal opinion
solid gate
Too bad I cannot find 8 to 10 ones though. The information just isn’t there.
fringe mulch
Yeah
There is a good spg with a 76mm gun mounted in the hull that would be a good t5
Well good as an example
I think...i only saw a photo of it so idk ifit is or not
Also are you talking about the Ansaldo 105/25 M43 or also known as the Semovente 105/25?
solid gate
I mean the Semovente. Though the gun looks a bit short I think. What does the other 1 look like?
solid gate
Oh and FTR mentions a VK 70.01 P and a Sturmpanzer Maus.
fringe mulch
- Lol
- Turns out it was a 45mm spg
- I think i found a 76mm spg...an actual one
And 4....i still cant post a pic.
solid gate
Really?
Also I found FTR has a VK 130.01(K) Tiger-Maus and a VK 45.02/45.03 (H).
Well this looks better than the second one:
This looks like what the VK 168 is based off of:
wanton star
Should I buy super pershing or rev m4a1 I got 601 total battle
fringe mulch
Ooof...idk
barren heath
Neither
601 battles you shouldn’t have reached tier 8 yet so you have no reason to buy a tier 8 premium tank
wary loom
Lol
crisp rapids
I have question about tanks i like tanks like little chance to ammorack who better Obj. 140 or T-62A?
ancient hull
Should I buy the T34 Independence? I really like the Tank and how it looks
barren heath
If you know how to hulldown: yes @ancient hull
solid gate
Man T34 is much better looking. Heck even with the Falcon camo T34 is better looking. (1776) is just ugly camo.
barren heath
Well you’d buy it because it looks ridiculous of course
elfin orbit
Just like I'd buy a bright pink colored panther
prisma mulch
What’s the difference between the is3 and the is3 defender? I have the is3 but is it worth buying the is3 defender? TIA
hushed shadow
The is3 defender has an autoloader gun while the is3 has a single shot gun
barren heath
@prisma mulch IS-3 has an autoloader with 3 shells, 25 sec clip reload, 7,5 sec between shells, both 400 alpha, both +/- 1900 DPM, IS-3 D has better frontal armor and more gun depression, but abysmal gun handling, IS-3 has a softer hull but a better gun and is a bit quicker, that’s basically it
still raft
Worth it?
quasi mirage
Dont buy. Trash side armor
still raft
Hmm ok
tulip sail
But very good frontal armour just use hard cover next to you and always face the enemy
solid trench
Its gonna be an interesting stream today
jaunty sandal
Name the most broken tier 4
grizzled dock
Is-4
jaunty sandal
Tier 4 @grizzled dock
neat nimbus
is a worth this?
hollow belfry
No @neat nimbus
visual jolt
@neat nimbus I know that you own both T34s. The M4 Rev is epic if you like those tanks. KV-5 is over all not great but some people will swear by it
@dark socket
neat nimbus
why waste on this while you can buy the standard t34 that you can put way cooler camos
fringe mulch
Because...'MERICA!
lyric oriole
I also swear by KV-5, it's a blitzkrieg tactic tank
dusky wigeon
Kv5 best tier 8 heavy
dark socket
Yes
neat nimbus
so m4/fl10 cost 12,000
dark socket
Not a hard event
neat nimbus
have they shown jps tds
dusky wigeon
Hey why is amx 50b is better than t57 , because amx 50b is all heavies line to grind
solid gate
KV-5 is horrible. So many weakspots and doesnt even have good stats to make up for it
visual jolt
@solid gate @dark socket is the KV-5 god
Do not dare argue that the KV-5 is bad around him mortal
solid gate
Kv5 is worse than kv4 imo
dark socket
dusky wigeon
kv5 gain more money then kv4
visual jolt
@dark socket I love how I summon you to a KV-5 argument and your main arguing point is KV-5 memes 🤣
dark socket
Massive meme
dusky wigeon
Kv 2 is better because can HE every tank
solid gate
yeah can HE any tank for 200+ dmg
neat nimbus
i´ll buy it when i hope is named king tiger imagine that
dark socket
You'd be surprised, I often use HE in the KV-5, even against heavily armored targets
neat nimbus
ah yes now my tiger will be a authetic king tiger
dark socket
dapper panther
goombastomp.wav
dark socket
fringe mulch
Lol
neat nimbus
Can stop posting kV 5s
lyric oriole
Sweet, all that's left is light skills
neat nimbus
men im excited about the new legendary camo for the tiger 2 aka king tiger
fringe mulch
Yeah
dreamy plinth
valid lodge
Using the kv-5 to body slam people is really satisfying. Especially when it's Uprising
neat nimbus
hope changes the name tiger 2 for king tiger
barren heath
Königstiger at least then
King Tiger is the wrongfully translated version of the alliances for Bengal tiger (the meaning of Königstiger)
fringe mulch
Its most likely gonna be called the king tiger as its what it was famously nicknamed
barren heath
Yeah probably it will, since all camos have an English name 😛
fringe mulch
Yeah
solid gate
Is it only me who has Tier VII?
fringe mulch
No
vivid yarrow
Chi to any thought how fair in today
solid gate
Uff
neat nimbus
i have free xp ready when the JPs TDs arrives
west vapor
Important question when will the kv2 get a buff cause it get abused in matches
For me anyway
tulip sail
Probably a few updates after it needs one
low elk
tiger camo ok
really like the hori camo the gun looks like a sword
neat nimbus
is samurai legendary camo
solid gate
The Tiger camo looks lit
hollow moth
This tiger 2 camo is actually realistic
hollow moth
These are the up buffs, and no, TDs based on heavies won't get a buff
low elk
they should buff jpz, FV183, and some other big boy heavy TDs
hollow moth
They should buff all tier 10 tanks if they buff these ones
solid gate
Jp e100 doesn’t really need a buff a good buff for 183 would be removing it
low elk
maus buff looks overcooked along with the e100 one
215b is just a revert along with powercreep
hollow moth
@solid gate but for fight these heavies? They don't die for 3 shots anymore
And even maus didn't need a buff
solid gate
And now i have to grind TWO tanks with my chi to. I'll just do the td line first then the chi ri...
quasi mirage
that vk7201hp buff 😮 almost 25%
frigid basin
remember kids, never forget where enemy derp guns are, unless you want to get one-tapped, always remember your armor thickness and where the derp gun is. You dont want to get into the battle, fight a kv-2, run away, then forget where he was. American tank destroyers and M4A3E8s suffer from this
onyx venture
I got the T28 proto recently and I find it better than the T25/2, In my opinion the T25/2 is a bit underpowered
dusky wigeon
Fv183 needs buff on reload time
Is 22.9 seconds
Jgpanzer e100 is 17 seconds
And they deal the same damage
proper slate
@dusky wigeon 183 does not do the same damage as the jg
proper slate
@dusky wigeon gun rammer for faster reload
dusky wigeon
Ok
proper slate
@dusky wigeon unless you prefer more pen
dusky wigeon
More pen will decrease the accuracy
solid gate
@onyx venture T25/2 is made up and should be called T23/M36 or something like that. It’s a T23 hull with a Jackson turret. T25 is a T23 hull with experimental/prototype Pershing style turret and 90mm gun.
Oh and Chieftain getting HP buff is nice. I don’t know about Maus and E 100. Though E 100 has the worse armor profile. Then again Maus has weak cheeks or something like that you guys say?
onyx venture
They should either add a slight buff to the T25/2 to either the front armor or add more penetrating power to the gun
solid gate
The gun’s penetration is down toward medium tank level and it kinda plays like a medium. Just wish they’d give it more armor. Especially on the turret.
onyx venture
The turret it fine armor wise imo, I tend to block plenty of damage with it, the hull on the other end is pretty bad, even angling it doesn't do anything
solid gate
Nah. I try to hull down with it and still get penned. This is because it’s same turret as Jackson but a tier higher so it goes against bigger guns more often. It should get a little more turret armor and definitely get more hull armor.
onyx venture
Many people get tricked though and shoot that tiny roof that's separated from the turret if you only peak out a little, I'm pretty sure you don't loose any hp from it
It's also hard to notice it's separated unless your upclose, so that probably explains it too
solid gate
Actually shooting at that can cause a pen as the shell doesn’t hit that but hits a bit lower. Aim lower and you hit the gun mantlet. I’d still like the turret AND hull to get armor buff.
onyx venture
Either way, they should buff it
solid gate
@dusky wigeon use Calibrated Shells. Your reload is so long, knocking a second off with Gun Rammer won't make a difference. What will make a difference is the 22 extra mm of pen, which allows you to HESH the bottom plate of E-100's, IS-7's, and other heavy tanks if they're on equal or higher ground. Use Vertical Stabilizer and Enhanced Gun Laying Drive, because Supercharger isn't that good and the accuracy is good enough to be reliable with a 100% crew and premium consumables on . Also, instead of running Improved Optics, use a camo net. That thing needs all the camo it can get, and you shouldn't rely on yourself to spot, you need allies. Besides, even with Improved Optics, the spotting range is still so low you wont spot anything except maybe a Maus occasionally, so Camo Net is the better option.
solid gate
I think my proposed Panzer 74 will use the Variante A turret and Variante T suspension. Variante T suspension is regular while Variante H is hydropneumatic which doesn’t suit Blitz. Also we could have Panzer 74 based heavies from tiers 8 to 10. Calling them VFZ 69 as Status Report did in their old blog for PC WoT. They can use the other turret variants and a proposed 11cm (110mm) British rifled gun as well as the 120mm L11 British gun. Panzer 74 medium itself will use the 105mm L7 gun.
ocean shale
hi i got a question
solid gate
What question?
solid gate
VFZ 69 Variante F is premium as it has an autoloader while the others do not.
Should I research the Maus or E100 first I have both the E75 and Mäuschen which one should I focus on?
I don’t know myself. Hopefully someone else gets on who knows more about them.
ivory vigil
Strange even my grandkids have to play whit premium
rotund palm
Is it true that Maus is gonna get 3000 Hp ?
If it is then I'll be struggling to beat one in Tier X battles since I'm a Tier IX
wise moth
Yup, it's true. Have fun chewing through a Maus in a tier IX lol
solid gate
When is the 6.9 coming?
anyone with any clue how to use high dispersion guns? im finding the vk3001d unplayable at long range
wise moth
@solid gate Get your crew trained up to 100%
rotund palm
Welp it's true time to Load alot of HEAT bullets to damage maus or E100
Anyways my Tier XI is ST I and T92
sturdy bane
damn this guy's so good he's got tier 11s
feel free to laugh guys, i know how funny i am
frigid compass
@sturdy bane
sturdy bane
thankyou
rotund palm
Lol
hollow moth
@sturdy bane you deserve my comedy central profile pic
nova knot
Leopard tanks are so op
prisma mulch
Is3 defender or the T28 defender which one is better? TIA
solid gate
@prisma mulch I’d say T28 Defender is better.
solid gate
Apparently there should be 2 Type 64s. One is a Hybrid and the other is a Prototype.
fluid grail
Why will the S.Conq be a prem tank and not in the tech tree ???? 🤬 because money ?!
solid gate
They don’t seem to want to do what they did with the tier X Russian mediums back in the day with these new tanks. They could put Super Conqueror as a second heavy leading off from Conqueror but NOOOOOO. Let’s sell it for money. Geez Wargaming. Don’t you make enough money to pay everyone in your company with all this selling crates and premiums that new players don’t have?
twin trellis
I need help deciding which of these three tanks to buy
- Panther 2
- Jpanther 2
- Centurion 1
they all seem pretty decent idk
im not including the ferdinand because i dont really like slower tanks
solid gate
Jp 2 the other two you just said are meh
hollow moth
Did you know?
Sheridan is 500kg lighter than Hellcat, also if you stack 11 sheridans, it would still lighter than maus by 1,43 tons
solid gate
What if you stacked 11 Maus instead
I mean s'more fun
hollow moth
2078.78 tons is the height of 11 maus
The Yamato (the most heavy warship of the world) is 65030 tons
onyx venture
The normal T28 proto is pretty good at blocking hits and really good when angled
hollow moth
Sheridan is so light, you need to stack 3815 sheridans for have the same height of a Yamato
twin trellis
t28 proto sides are easy to pen tho
onyx venture
As long as you keep the front forward you are good
Just make sure you watch the map when playing
twin trellis
gets flanked
onyx venture
That's why it's wise to be with at least one other tank
Even from upclose I block shots
solid gate
T28 Prototype is better than T28 but it’s not the best TD.
frozen mural
T95e6 good?
wraith depot
@frozen mural only for 95% plus players
frozen mural
Hmm tought so think i take the rev that look funny
livid forum
Charioteer is still a really good tank change my mind
lyric oriole
Mediocre HESH, DPM, and Armor, the camo and mobility are good sure but it has better Same tier options
twin trellis
I've been using the 122 on the t44 and so far its not that bad
low elk
122 on the t44 was never bad
its just powercreeped
twin trellis
It has low dpm but at least I don't have to peek as often
It forces me not to get damaged, so not sure if i like it more than the lb1
solid gate
@wraith depot Uh I’m not a 95% plus player and I liked it when I took it for a brief spin.
122mm on T-44 is bad because the accuracy is trash. With a heavy you can work with that but it doesn’t work with mediums. Mediums need some degree of accuracy.
neat nimbus
and thats a lot of damage
gleaming hollow
Where did the 34 k silver go???
I swear to god I hate the way WOTB gives out money and XP
And broken tanks, that's why I quit.
onyx venture
That happens to me too often
gleaming hollow
I'm not putting up with heavies I can't pen that can take away 1/4 to 1/2 of m HP
onyx venture
I sometimes get a good amount of cash but most of the time it's barely like 2k-6k
frigid compass
@gleaming hollow it goes to repair costs, provision costs, ammo costs and consumables costs
solid gate
122mm t44 has meh standard pen aswell
solid gate
I think it has same pen as the 100mm but because it is less accurate it’s not good with that pen.
frigid compass
T-44 with a 122mm is just a tier 8 KV-1S
solid gate
@twin trellis Jpanther 2
twin trellis
sure
solid gate
Yeah Ferdi needs armor buff or should get Tiger P’s top speed. Though the top speed thing makes no logical sense so armor buff would be better.
restive patrol
@gleaming hollow honestly, and this is just an opinion, but it might b there to teach u about real life... or at least how the military works. "Give u $100 and take back $99" lmao it's an army song, and this is a military game. Idk just a hunch.
neat nimbus
well even if i dont get the tank i still looking foward for skills test events
solid gate
I already have it so only want the credits.
restive patrol
Same lol
solid gate
I’m out of my mind again playing the Ferdinand. Wargaming really needs to buff it’s armor even more. They did that small buff to the little angled pieces on it and Tiger P but for Ferdi that was nowhere near enough. They also need to buff T28 armor.
tight dragon
solid gate
Nerf Gravedigger? Nah. It’s not that great mate.
low elk
gravedigger is kinda bad
solid gate
Especially against tier 8. If any tank above tier V should have preferential MM it should be that tank.
Not sure if this is legit or not but it’s a Sheridan with 105mm looks like:
@solid gate it is it’s the m68 on the Sheridan it tested a numerous amount of guns I got a photo of some of them
@solid gate That the same gun the Stingray uses? Also can you show me what photos you got?
@solid gate dam I don’t have it anymore nah stingray uses the OG L7 family iirc
Oh, ok. Well I think if Wargaming cannot solve ATGMs they could do Sheridan with derp gun and that gun plus Stingray turret and the gun that goes with AGS Sheridan. If that gun is the same one as the actual Stingray tank. Still trying to figure out that idea.
I mean I have that and this:
I have a photo of sheridan with the 75mm HV gun idk what happened to my photo with the various guns mounted on it
tiny plume
You get like 50 k credits
solid gate
You could make a whole line with the Sheridan it looks like.
proven jasper
solid gate
Hehe. Maybe not that low on the tiers but you could do tier 7, maybe 6, and up.
@solid gate 75mm HV
@solid gate Wow! I saw one with a different gun. A 76mm. Wait that one doesn’t have a traditional turret looks like.
@solid gate the gun is unmanned you can see the crew capsule hatch right by the gun
Heh. Then that one wouldn’t fit in Blitz. Still cool though funky looking.
76mm mounting one.
Also the M41 hull with Stingray turret and gun:
solid gate
How about this the HSTV(L) it was equipped with the 75mm ARES hyper velocity auto cannon (auto reloading) had a top speed of 83kph and used the same running gear as the Sheridan just with a different engine
80-100kmh* it later upgraded to its own unique running gear
Could probably fit at tier ten if they gave it high enough ROF and kept the same ammo capacity as the original (26 rounds)
That was the magazine also very off @solid gate
Well that’s what i read so 🤷♂️
Also do you mean off as in it wouldn’t fit?
@solid gate as in that’s not the right number
Yeah I checked again and I realized that it was 175 or somewhere around that
I’m not sure about the legitimacy of globalsecurity.org but if true it that’s a whole lotta depression
My redesigned American Medium Line (Maybe can swap a couple tanks around but yeah):
VII - Pershing (I don’t wanna hear lip ok. T20 also gets put as premium or something and either stays tier 7 or moves down a tier while becoming that.)
VIII - M46 and T42
IX - T54E2 and M47
X - Super M60 and M48
tulip sail
"Super m60" what?
I've never heard of that
Also what nerfs do you suggest for the m26 to put it at a t7 tier
solid gate
M26 would need a bit of nerfing I guess to put it at tier 7 but not sure what yet. Also Super M60 is this thing I found:
Military Today I think is the place I found it.
Same place I found Super M48:
Screw it out the m60a2 at tier 10 another 152mm atgm tank would be “great”
Nah. We don’t need more ATGMs right now.
What do you mean I “love” (that’s in quotation marks) atgm tanks
Also I’d make Jaguar MBT a premium tier 10 American tank. Why American? Well because it says Cadillac Gage (an American company) finished the prototype/thing putting the turret and hull together.
@solid gate that website about the HSTV seems way way off the gun was able to achieve some high angles but even then the pen and ROF are way too low
Yeah I’m not sure either of
frigid compass
@solid gate ah yes the starship
solid gate
I mean we’re running out of Vietnam era American mbts
frigid compass
just make some up just like we're doing right now with german tanks
solid gate
I think Pershing’s pen would be nerfed if it was moved down to tier 7.
Besides I’m sure it would be 100% possible to pen the turret
@tulip sail Actually the Pershing used the M3 gun right? Where did Wargaming get the idea of giving it the T15E#(Letter)# gun? Realistically I’d remove that gun from it and give it the M3 gun as the top gun. Also T20 would become a premium with 76mm gun (the gun it actually mounted) alongside it’s T21 light counterpart. 160mm of AP pen would be less than P43 ter’s 90mm gun has by 5 yet you have the better gun depression. You also have a bigger tank though. Armor I wouldn’t mess with since tier 7s can already easily pen the hull now anyway and tier 6s should be able to hurt it somehow. Not that you would see tier 6 often with it.
I mean if we’re just making up stuff now how about a m60 Hull with.. A TV-8 turret!
Uh no. That turret is ugly as heck.
frigid compass
M48 with Leopard 2 turret yes
Oh wait thats an actually real thing
solid gate
@frigid compass Wait what German tanks are we making up?
Man we don’t need to make up German tanks ourselves. Just go look up artist and creator pictures like the ones I sent a while back. There was a E 79 or something like that and a Panzer III. There were a few of them.
That is a real thing I got a pic of it
@solid gate
Wow. Boxier turret than the Abrams turret. At least on the front it is.
frigid compass
its the Leopard 2 turret
solid gate
How about a Amx 13 Hull with a Leclerc turret
frigid compass
imagine gaijin adding it as a premium tank to warthunder lol
@solid gate too heavy
the leclerc turret is probably heavier than the amx 13 chassis itself
solid gate
According to MT this is a follow on to the M60-2000 and it’s called 120S:
Abrams turret weighs about 20 tons itself maybe heavier Iirc
My only way to fix the British medium tank line is to put a T95/Chieftain variant between the Centurion III and the 7/1. Centurion III would be tier 7 and Comet tier 6.
Hmm how about a Sheridan hull with a Maus turret
Maus turret would crush the hull.