T95 isnt a tank destroyer though
Those type of tanks are usually breakthrough or superheavy tanks
#vehicles-discussion
iron egret
solid gate
Yeah but Wargaming needed TDs for America above tier 7 in the game.
rapid barn
It’s a double tracked td so yes it’s a super heavy
iron egret
😂 👌 bruh
solid gate
It’s a turretless super heavy breakthrough tank that was never used.
rapid barn
Was e100 a super heavy?
tulip sail
And lost behind a bush for 15years
iron egret
E 100 was a failure
gritty lintel
I'm pretty sure E 100 was a super heavy though.
solid gate
@iron egret Did you know that the T110E4 in game is at least partially made up?
rapid barn
I mean Germany doesn’t really even have a normal heavy
iron egret
Lol 1/3rd of the tanks ingame are fake
rapid barn
The 72.01k e100 and Maus are all super heavies
solid gate
E100 wasn’t really a failure it just wasn’t complete
Well E4 should be turretless too. The only turreted T110 design was the E5.
iron egret
E4 shouldnt exist 😂
rapid barn
But the least super heavy of the 3 is technically the 72.01k
gritty lintel
So, right now, I have an M18 Wolverine, and I'm trying to decide if I should go with the Jackson or the Hellcat, what do you think?
solid gate
Hellcat
rapid barn
Yes
solid gate
P1000 Ratte would have put even E 100 and Maus to shame with it’s size and weight.
iron egret
Hellcat
rapid barn
Hellcat
solid gate
@gritty lintel M10 Wolverine you mean. M18 IS the Hellcat.
iron egret
Lol
gritty lintel
The numbers and letters for the tanks get confusing.
solid gate
I actually like the M36 over the Hellcat. Hellcat may have speed but the armor sucks and the turret cannot keep up with the mobility it has. M36 is more standard play.
rapid barn
Obj 704A anyone?
solid gate
704A?
iron egret
AMX 50 Surbaisse anyone?
AMX 50 B with a pikenose
rapid barn
705 I meant
solid gate
Wait if there is 268 V 4 then where are the V2 and V3?
iron egret
Oh oh what if
WG gave the AMX 50 B its actual magazine size
solid gate
What size would that be?
gritty lintel
Is it just me or is the Grille 15's gun huge?
iron egret
Of around 19 shells
solid gate
Oof
rapid barn
Hell yeah boi
iron egret
The new wtf e 100 😩
solid gate
At that point I’d just start hacking and get a railgun tank.
rapid barn
I want that to happen. They should give the 50b 4 or 5 shells
gritty lintel
Imagine that, a tank with a railgun instead of a normal gun.
iron egret
Not sure about the T57 Heavy's magazine size tho
Lol Defender tanks use railguns
Its why they use electric engines
rapid barn
In wot pc I think it has 5 shells
solid gate
T77.......
rapid barn
The 50b and t57 and kranvagn all have 5
solid gate
Apparently you cannot use all caps. It deletes your comments if you do.
iron egret
There is a T57 and there is a T77
gritty lintel
WHY NOT?
solid gate
Emil III guys. I’m calling it by it’s actual name now.
rapid barn
BRUH. @solid gate u can’t use lots of full stops either
solid gate
Well it wouldn’t let me use add and it in full caps with an excited mark. Kept deleting the comment. Dumb Discord server.
rapid barn
I tried it to. Weird Ik
solid gate
Anyway I’m going to bed. Goodnight to you all.
gritty lintel
Alright, goodnight.
rapid barn
Good morning GAMERS
iron egret
gn GAMERS
gritty lintel
Good Morning Vietnam!
zealous anchor
Good morning trees
gritty lintel
That moment when the snow speaks Finnish.
hallow briar
Guys what do you think about a buff in FCM 50 t? 🤔
The tier 8 French premium tank on Tec tree
This tank is bigger than E50M, slow like a French heavy tank and unarmored like T-34-85 Rudy in a tier 8-7 battle
BUT
What saves the tank is the gun, about 212mm penetration (it looks low for tier 8 but that's actually a high number for a medium tank), good precision and a fast shot making 225 dmg
tall basin
whats the best tank faction
hallow briar
Depends @tall basin, you want something fast? Slow but well armored? Play with a Sherman? Rage in French heavy tanks?
tall basin
@hallow briar i want something that have a good armor and good gun
hallow briar
So there is two good factions for you
tall basin
what
hallow briar
American tanks (their TDs are very well armored at tier 7-10, some have turret and other have a faster reload)
tall basin
what faction do you use
hallow briar
German, I'm trying some French lights
There is the German TDs too @tall basin
All they have a good gun, some have the best gun of the tier and other have a decent armor
tall basin
whats your favourite tank
hallow briar
Jagdpanzer E100
This tank is as armored as E100 and you need only 3 shots for kill someone
tall basin
wow thats op
hallow briar
Not that OP, the tank is very slow and have 3 big weak points
15 secs of reload too
hallow briar
The cannon is meeeeh, but no one survives when it's doing a face hug, it's the armor of gods
BUT the incarnation of slowness
tall basin
so im going to german then
hallow briar
They know how to make a good armor
tall basin
i have to grind all the way back
solid gate
The premium VK 45.3 could use an optional gun upgrade like the vk 45.2 techtree unit to the 10.5 kwk L 52 to be more suitable but I know upgradeble premiums is none standardized practice
To be fair it’s a better tank than the Lowe in its tier , the techtree version is a pre decessor to the premium so it should be able to use all those guns if researched
iron egret
Löwe is just a worse Tiger II and VK 45.03 is just a worse Tiger I
solid gate
Make I tank with nuclear bombs 💣
modern solstice
@tall basin I use the maus, it's armour is great when used properly, but you sometimes have to choose between doing damage and maximising your utility of armour
solid gate
Actually I like VK 45.03 over Tiger I as it doesn’t have flat armor. Though that was prior to Tiger I armor buff. I don’t know if VK will be as good in comparison now.
@hallow briar Not all of the American TDs at tiers 7-10 have good armor. T28 doesn’t and the Prot has some annoying weaknesses too.
tulip sail
The tiger 1 has significantly better armour (100mm vs tigers 165mm) and somewhat better Mobility stats
viral lodge
American tanks are hulldown oriented (For their Heavy and TDs) You definitely need to specify where the armour is.
dull bolt
Y'all think the chaffee needs a top speed buff?
solid gate
nah
worthy grotto
It could be fun if the fv217 badger come another time to the shop of blitz. isn’t it?
Personally I wanna buy it
hallow briar
@solid gate actually T28 have a good armor, but there is a weakspot that is the same size of the real good armor
modern solstice
T28 and especially T28's prots sides are terribly weak, they must have their front pointed straight at the enemy even if means the front must be unangled
solid gate
T28 has a big flat LFP too, any tank can pen it with prammo easily
slender cliff
Exactly. The T28 doesn’t have a lfp in wot why should it have it in blitz@solid gate
nocturne sage
Is the is6 a good credit farming tank and is the is bundle worth it’s
solid gate
aye what tank should i buy with gold ?
hybrid olive
next solstice
I personally think the IS-6 is pretty cool
grizzled dock
Yes why
solid gate
@tulip sail Well I bounced a shot from Smasher at point blank with my VK 45.03. This was prior to Tiger I having that buffed armor so the Tiger probably wouldn’t have. Of course the Smasher probably stupidly fired AP at the upper plate. Also if the turret ring weakness is still there most players now don’t know about it or have forgotten about it. The advantage VK has over Tiger I is the sloped armor. Still they probably should buff the VK’s armor a bit now.
@modern solstice T28 Prot can hull down though but it has weak turret cheeks which ruin the point of that maneuver. T28 is hopeless. The frontal armor apparently isn’t 254mm along the entire front but only in a certain area which is dumb. Especially considering it’s sides are trash and it’s so slow.
frigid compass
of course you're gonna bounce a smasher AP on the VK 45
the smasher has quite bad AP pen
solid gate
Much funnier is a T37 bouncing KV-2 AP. Like RNG or what?
frigid compass
Smasher AP only works against the sides of tanks most of the times
Track hit probably
solid gate
Well I got bounces from other tanks AP too when playing VK 45.03. It’s kinda like the VK 45.02 A. Some idiots don’t play well and underestimate the armor. It looks crap on paper but with wiggling around and such it can get bounces. Still they probably should buff the armor now.
frigid compass
every part of the T37 is overmatchable by even a 100mm gun so it must be a track hit
solid gate
@frigid compass Nope. The turret was what he hit.
frigid compass
so probably an unlucky mantlet hit or the side MGs that counts as spaced armor
if it hit main armor it would overmatch and pen no matter what
solid gate
If he had hit the track it’d have said something about the track being damaged or broken. It did not. Still way back when that happened I was shocked. Killed him but was still shocked. I just knew I was dead then bounce. Like what? Ok I’ll kill you then KV-2. BOOM!
frigid compass
yeah if it isnt track then its either unlucky side mg/mantlet hit
solid gate
Well it was fortunate for me but unfortunate for him. It was funny after the shock wore off.
modern solstice
@solid gate t28 prot is also open top, so even hull down, a tall tank or a tank at a higher elevation can HE it
Fixed it
slender cliff
No
solid gate
@modern solstice You mean T28 Prot right? And yeah I penned that open top on the turret of it with T49 90mm AP rounds. Imagine if I had used the HE of the derp gun on it.
tulip sail
@solid gate even with the slope it's got 65mm more armour and mobility
solid gate
Of course that was on Middleburg and I had the high ground so it was easy to aim for the top of the turret. High ground has advantages.
@tulip sail The slope of what?
tulip sail
The vk
solid gate
Okaaaayyy. Which tank has 65mm more armor and mobility then?
solid gate
Oh! You mean the buffed Tiger? Yeah it has 65mm more but what does the VK have effective wise on the upper plate?
Also I wonder if Excelsior should get frontal armor buff too. It won’t be historically accurate but considering the guns it goes against it’s crap. 114mm of flat armor is not good. Oh and the pen is not good either. Especially on the AP. It’s got tier 3 or 4 level AP pen at tier 5. That’s bologna.
gritty lintel
What do you guys mean when you say "derp gun"?
slender cliff
Large caliber gun
gritty lintel
Oh, okay.
solid gate
Yeah. Usually 152mm guns but anything from 150mm up can be a derp gun.
tulip sail
Or 75 depending on the tier
solid gate
Eh 75mm guns aren’t really derp. You mean 105 short barrel ones at lower tiers?
frigid compass
@solid gate cough cough bt-7 art
slender cliff
Breh it depends on the tier if the tank which classifies it as derp
solid gate
@frigid compass Ok then. One 75mm derp. That’s it though. Honestly you wouldn’t see BT-7 Artillery if you went down to low tiers often.
zinc condor
T82?
dusk furnace
I suggest change tiger 1 from heavy to medium :p
grizzled dock
Tiger 1 is fun as hell
fossil violet
it needs to be a heavy to fill in heavy slots
grizzled dock
Tiger 1 super heavy
frigid compass
Maus Reconnaissance Tank
solid gate
A37 “Super Excelsior”
grizzled dock
No tanks
misty wing
does the challenger have a tog II turret as its stock one
frigid compass
@misty wing actually the Tog is the one who has the challenger turret not the other way around
rapid barn
The tog is op and fun
frigid compass
Laughs in ARL-44
rapid barn
Arl is also a beast. Love that thing. So op for its tier
quasi mirage
lol'
hollow belfry
Finally aced my Jagdpanther
This tank is a beast
Even against T8 the armor is pretty decent
Roughly the mobility of a medium, with good top speed and a solid gun that should not struggle to pen anything except Tiger IIs or so
solid gate
I Aced the Tiger II in a game with at least 2 tier 9s on each team. Luckily no T92E1 (at least not on the enemy team).
frigid compass
look at the awful like to dislike ratio when they announced the super conq would come as a prem/collector lol
solid gate
They keep releasing tanks as collector or premium/gold enriched and aren’t giving tech tree lines.
I mean Chimera is premium, 50TP Prototyp will be collector/premium, Caernarvon Action X, Super Conqueror, and whatever else.
frigid compass
Chimera, 50TP Prototyp and Caernarvon AX are prems on PC so they make sense but Super Conq is no @solid gate
misty wing
Super Conq as premium is bad enough, but if it's in crates too I'm gonna lose it
solid gate
I know but the point is they are focusing on the money makers too much not not the possible tech trees.
slender perch
Super Conq will still be released as a Collector, in Crates. I don't think those reactions mean anything to WG.
This is from RU Discord. Unfortunately, they don't know what a good game looks like.
frigid compass
the reactions mean nothing but it shows most people dont like the idea on the non RU side
true arrow
I like the 240 mm prammo pen in tog
zinc condor
Wait what
hollow belfry
Yes, it has 239 APCR pen
sturdy bane
#1 ke-ni otsu #2 ke-ni #3 chi-nu
solid gate
@slender perch On the RU server everything is cheaper iirc, also their average players is older than on other servers
solid gate
Chi-Nu hasn’t aged well and it wasn’t near the best in the first place. Same with Chi-To. Chi-Ri also hasn’t aged well but I liked it in the past.
Chi-Ri is still good.
zinc condor
Wish it have more pen
solid gate
Also, what am I doing wrong with my Tiger II? Everyone were saying the TII was hella OP, but mine doesn't feel as strong as others.
Although, my VK-100.01P feels more strong than people say, but the reload is somewhat too long.
Chi-Ri is not good man. Too big, slowish, and the pen isn’t good enough. You cannot flank heavies reliably and forget facing other mediums. The armor is nothing too since it’s mostly flat and only 75mm.
In my experience, The Chi-ri isn't a flanker, it's a side support, it should stay by the side of Main DPS or Armor.
It is the only autoloader I like in game.
@solid gate I think you might be doing what I did. Angling it like old one doesn’t work. Point it straight at the enemy and hope they don’t shoot prammo. You can wiggle but don’t over angle. 100mm is side armor seems better than the old side value but it’s not that much better. Over angle and you’ll get penned easy. VK 100’s only weakness on front is the lower plate but it’s narrow compared to Tiger II’s.
So, play it like a T1 Heavy?
Also I just meant it cannot get to the flank of a single tank (as in the sides) reliably. And supporting isn’t going to be easy with it either. The tank really does need some love. As do the Chi-Nu and Chi-To.
@solid gate Pretty much. You might can side scrape but again don’t over angle.
Okay.
glass crypt
tbh you should also keep in mind tthat there are tanks who think ur armor is a joke 🦐
solid gate
What exactly does that mean?
I want to love Chi-Ri like I did in the past but with the tanks that have been added since then (especially the autoreloaders) it’s just not good anymore.
glass crypt
some lower tier and same tier tanks have more than enough pen for you
solid gate
Oh, yeah. Avoid high pen guns like ISU-152. Though that’s the worst one to have aiming at you in any tank.
The Chi-Ri isn't a heavy so it is expected.
Or are we talking about Tiger II?
It’s arguably as slow as a heavy with armor of a weak medium. Also light tank level armor. And we are back on Tiger II though.
High pen guns will still rip through the armor of the Tiger II. As will stupid prammo if they shoot that at you.
glass crypt
i was talking about the tiger
solid gate
Tier IXs simply chew through the FP.
TIER 9 tanks are overpowered, change my mind.
The Tier VIIIs Russian TDs go through the FP too.
@solid gate I once heard the jump between Tier VIII and IX is incredible large.
and the one from 9 to 10 incredibly small
I posted my Ace battle with the tank (Tiger II) in replays here. You can see I made mistakes but fortunately didn’t die. The one thing I did right was tracking JT then getting to his side where he couldn’t shoot me. Though I got shot by T-44 or something while doing that. Still I survived and got an Ace so it was worth it.
I think I got two aces with the Tiger II, but that's about it.
devout trout
There was this tank when I was over at macedonia
I believe it's a kv1
Not sure but definitely Russian just like all the weapon systems they have
dapper panther
That's a t34 hull
iron egret
It is Russian, but it's a T-34-85
dapper panther
Unsure about the turret
devout trout
While I was there there was Russian 152 guns shooting from somewhere and impacting the hill near my unit
iron egret
Woah
They use Russian 152s in Macedonia?
devout trout
Yea
And heimes (I can't spell it) helicopters.
I was able to shoot some of their weapons too
solid gate
Introducing to you the new VK 2.36 menacing
frigid compass
ah yes the VK 2 ton version 36
solid gate
Yes
I played around 10 battles in a Chi-Ri
I haven't won a single one of them, so I stoped playing it
It really needs a buff, or meybe the new auto-loading system, like the Italians
Useless VK 2 multiple turrets is gay not effective
solid gate
Takes one to acknowledge one.
solid gate
@solid gate Chi-Ri is supposed to have a regular autoloader man. Though I agree it needs a buff.
solid gate
So, it is historically accurate?
It used clips of 3?
How can we know this since the tank was just a prototype?
frigid compass
no autoloader in blitz have a reasonable/accurate amount of shells lol
as the AMX 13 75 irl had a 12 round autoloader
solid gate
Makes sense
I still hope the deva will bufd Chi-Ri as soon as possible
Chi Ri is fine imo
hushed shadow
I feel a pen buff is what is really needed, and maybe some mobility buff. The autoloader on the gun seems good enough to me
tulip sail
It's either an early m4a3 or late m4a2
I'm leaning to late a2 but without an engine deck picture I cant be sure
Wait. No it's an M4A3E8
And a rare one since it has a 75mm
You can tell by its vvss
solid gate
Can they nerf the LTTB already? It has insane mobility, broken amounts of armour and a gun better than most meds at its tier. How is it still not nerfed?
exactly
to morrow new kizz
this one
what is the trench rate
frigid compass
Comet?
solid gate
Trench crossing sorry
frigid compass
wdym by trench crossing
frigid compass
ah
solid gate
WOT never mention that
frigid compass
there's literally no trenches in wot so they dont need to
slender cliff
Ok
solid gate
why is this tank more expensive but weaker? LOL
.
@solid gate Dude they did nerf it’s armor. It used to be 90mm on the front. Now it’s like 75 or something. Don’t complain if you cannot penetrate it. Learn it’s weak points. It has plenty now.
Imaging telling a person to learn weak spots. On a light And I don’t have a problem penning it (even though any non-aimed shot at it auto bounces), the main issue is the insane top gun and mobility of a Ru
@solid gate Chi-Ri in game may not have an accurate autoloader when it comes to shell amounts. However, the weight of the vehicle is too high and if TE is right then the top speed is 3kph slower than the actual top speed of the tank. Though 42kph was the target top speed of the project.
@solid gate Dude the top gun lacks gun depression compared to the second gun. Though it does have more pen than the second gun.
Ah yes, because we all know gun depression is where it is at in WoTB. No wonder St Emil is best tank in game
wanton quiver
I would like to ask if it is not possible to extend the offer for the T 55A because I will not have the money until Monday and I will be home until 14:00
Please 1 Day plus
gritty lintel
What is the "mobile artillery" people are complaining about?
next solstice
The Leopard PTA's kinda booty isn't it.... . . ..
solid gate
If play it like a handicapped Leopard it's aight
gritty lintel
You know what vehicle would really upset the WoT community?
solid gate
P1000 Ratte
gritty lintel
No, the Jagdpanzer Rakete, its a tank destroyer armed with ATGMs.
solid gate
So basically the Raketenjagdpanzer from War Thunder
gritty lintel
Yeah.
But seeing as everyone hates ATGMs in WoT, this would be a terrible thing to them.
solid gate
Why not add the ST-1 while we're at it
@solid gate Now you’re putting words in my mouth. What I mean is that with the gun depression of the top gun the LTTB has to expose itself more to get shots off. Which makes it more vulnerable to getting hit and even penned. And LTTB armor is not near as troll now as it used to be.
Who cares about exposure when you can rush the enemy spawn full speed and just auto aim pen everyone since soviet guns don't have bloom and just drive by everyone and get out since no one can hit you and those that do bounce.
Who does that crap? Yoloing is bad idea even in an LTTB and I have no problem dealing with LTTBs. I myself didn’t like it as much after the armor nerf. It doesn’t need a further nerf to the armor.
golden birch
.-.
That’s an interesting strategy
solid gate
If they bounce then they don’t know how to aim. You have a long side so anyone who has shots on that can really hurt an LTTB.
next solstice
anybody wanna talk about how MEH the KV-13 is?
solid gate
I think the only legitimate complaint could be the average speed it can get. 49kph average is the fastest among tier 7 light tanks. However, it’s top speed isn’t the fastest. Engine power may play part in it too as it may have a good-great p/w.
@N.Z.#1459 KV-13 kinda is disappointing now. It’s slower than T-43 with no better armor profile than T-43. Also less gun depression and maybe less dpm than T-43. The tank really could use some love.
next solstice
WG: nah lets buff the Black Prince and Tiger I instead
solid gate
Yeah. Wargaming has little to no logic in there decisions for the game.
gritty lintel
Its still a somewhat fun game tho.
solid gate
The BP was already stupidly strong
grizzled dock
BP would beat a tiger
solid gate
Not really. The armor is (mostly) flat and the tank is slow. Also the AP pen sucks. So no it wasn’t a beast before the buffs.
tulip sail
While it needs it I dont think wg will buff the kv-13 unless they decide to sell it
solid gate
I quit playing my KV-13. Last time I played a couple of battles in it it didn’t do too well. T-43 is superior despite having worse on paper armor and a bigger turret.
tulip sail
I didn't have it when 5.5 hit so It was one of the ones I missed
solid gate
I raced to get and enrich all the dang things.
elfin edge
wait enriching actually gives better MM?
verbal frigate
No..
elfin edge
why did DMG say so then
dusky stone
@elfin edge hes trolling
fleet berryBOT
Dark_Magician_Girl#4057 has been warned.
real zephyr
@dusky stone how am I trolling if I honestly believe enriching gives better mm?
everyone's opinion here is respected on WoT Blitz official, is it not? No matter how silly it seems? I guess I'll say it again. I think enriching tanks gives better MM.
Or am I going to be muted because you don't like my opinion?
elfin edge
ahahaha well riiiiip sorry
dusky stone
You full well know that know enriching vehicles don’t give better mm, if you continue you will be muted. You were warned because I’ve seen quite a few of your messages posted today which you have been trolling, including the meme you posted in #blitz-memes . Any questions please DM. @real zephyr
solid gate
Uh........
grizzled dock
@dusky stone 😴
solid gate
How much bonus credits do you get for perma enrichment?
Might Actually do it on my VK-100.
Depends on the tank. T49 gets 87%.
That 87 is on top of the normal coef for T49?
Yep
So, from the base T49 coef you add 87%, sounds good for the VK.
As far as I’m aware it is. Different tanks get different enrichment % bonuses.
It does bring me some money.
I had to enrich M41 as it was losing me credits before that. With getting the enrichment, better crew, and playing better in the tank I started earning credits with it. Enrichment is beneficial.
With enrichment and/or premium tanks you can make a load of credits.
solid gate
@solid gate are collector tank too?
@solid gate Well some collector tanks like 30B I think are enriched. Most previously tech tree ones are not unless you had them before update 5.5 and enriched them before the update dropped.
karmic field
lol @dusky stone had a nice run-in with DMG did you? As you can see, he doesn't hold very high opinion of how the moderation is done in here...
elfin edge
lol
next solstice
the PTA doesn’t seem that good if it’s this easy to get a 1st tank
solid gate
Maybe most drivers don't know how to use it?
Leopard PTA looks like it’s harder to use than the Leopard I.
It is
misty wing
When will Caernarvon AX and Super Conqueror hit the game
solid gate
I forgot a possible Swedish medium FTR listed. The LS-50 (or LS 50 whichever way to spell it is more accurate idk).
solid gate
Uh what buff should Ferdinand get?
dry notch
The Ferd should get jeans to make his butt look smaller
misty wing
imo Ferd should get a mobility buff and a gun arc buff
solid gate
Buff Pershing
formal harness
I may be the only one that feels this way but I think the ATGM tanks should go rot in the he11 that they came from. I am sooo tired of getting hit over rocks by a missile that pens every time and then not have the ability shoot back because i cant shoot through landscape. Please take my recommendation into consideration and don’t make anymore stupidly moronic decisions that you know is a bad idea in the first place. Thank you.
minor mica
Buff the dmg of the ap shells on t28 defender to like 460 and lower the reload magazine to like 18.5 sec
viral lodge
The T28 D is fine 🤔
minor mica
Well at least the buff side hull armor to like 90
viral lodge
Its meant to be strong front weak sides ¯_(ツ)_/¯
If they are shooting your sides you are 1:out of positon 2: overextended
minor mica
I use the front hulk at an angle to bounce but if it’s not the side hull then it’s the one of commanders cupola
neat path
I really dont see the problem with atgms, if you Put time into finding ways to beat them, you can counter them. I play mainly in the M48 patton and Bc25-T and I dont have problems with them. The first day was a tiny struggle in the bc but after playing against the atgms for a few battles, I started to find ways to counter.
minor mica
Tbh a fast reloading med or light can beat a atgm and with some back up even easier I rushed a Sheridan in my 121B after it got shot by a t92e1 and took it out
viral lodge
You are playing 2 faster tanks, the problem is for tanks like Maus and E100 who are too slow
minor mica
You can block with a maus
minor mica
If they’re bad at the missiles
viral lodge
When discussing tanks you go by decent players at a min, tier 10 go by good
minor mica
Just wiggle and make it hit the side or track
viral lodge
The upcoming ATGM nerf should help them, but still ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor mica
True
viral lodge
its still 490 ish damage from full cover
minor mica
Tbh they should reduce the range of the missile too
viral lodge
eh I dont care, barely anyone can hit a missile other than over cover within 100m
minor mica
Oh yea because of the arc that the missile does
viral lodge
Well the problem is without line of sight past 100m if you aim at a building it will do a weird reverse and try to hit the building so hitting without line of sight far out is hard
minor mica
Oh
Also the HEAT velocity is getting reduced from 45 to 30 apparently
Has there been any changes to the vk 168?
next solstice
Oh yeah. Apparently there's a hitbox in the tracks
solid gate
It’s really just gonna increase ATGM spam
next solstice
what if they added a buffer to the guidance system.
Like first 2 seconds of the missile is a straight line then the rest of the trajectory can be guided. It means that missile spammers are forced to make more complicated shots which means the opponents can react a bit better
hollow quiver
Does anybody think WG should introduce multi turreted tanks? (Yes I'm looking at you M3-Lee)
solid gate
Could be fun but probably hard to balance. Before any new addition to the game, I’d like them to balance the missiles.
tulip sail
It depends on the tank weather or not it would be balanced
solid gate
@misty wing Heh. Ferdi already has better gun arc than the JPanthers funnily enough. But I guess getting even more wouldn’t hurt.
hushed shadow
Can they add multiple turrets?
solid gate
Ferdinand doesn’t need to be buffed, it’s already the best performing tier 8 TD, as surprising as it may be. Any further buff would make it OP
radiant plinth
Funny joke
solid gate
fUnNy JoKe
radiant plinth
What makes it good? Is the the armor? Because the wz120 has better armor. Is it the mobility? Because the wz120 beats it there? Is it the gun? Because I hate to break it to you, the wz120 beats it there.
Strange. I wonder why the 120 isn’t on that list? Want my guess? It wouldn’t fit.
solid gate
WZ-120-1 FT is OP. If anything, nerf this one tank. Buffing Ferdinand wouldn’t help at all, buffing all tier 8 tanks would be a bandaid solution
lyric oriole
@radiant plinth there isn't enough players with it
solid gate
But we all know that as long as WZ-120 makes money, WG won’t touch it
There aren’t too much in the game currently so it’s ok-ish to me
formal harness
@next solstice Dude, that is a brilliant idea. That way it will be more realistic and more balanced
frigid compass
@lyric oriole thats bullcrap as according to blitzstars the WZ-120-1G FT has more than TRIPLE the amount of 90d players compared to the ferdinand
junior path
Takes about 3 updates to get solid info on tanks. A few updates ago there wasn't enough people with the wz 120 ft to have suitable data. In the upcoming graphs I'm sure the wz120 will be out
Another factor is how many people between 55 to 65% wr that have the tank. Any player who has a lower or higher wr then those are not accounted for in the graphs. So it is entirely possible that a sea of 54% and below are the bulk of players who have the tank.
crystal hare
IS-5 good or bad?
solid gate
Well, another IS-Clone, good but not very fun to play
crystal hare
It’s free once clan gets to tier x clan supply
solid gate
Nah still costs 1500 gold
grizzled dock
You also gotta get to t10 supply too
solid gate
Well there are open clans with T10 supply. You can just get in, a c q u i r e the IS-5, leave and go back to your clan
tame jungle
solid gate
AT-15 4th best somehow
wise moth
CIS meta is weird
snow zodiac
Is that tech tree only or something? I’m surprised the WZ 120-1FT isn’t up there
wise moth
@snow zodiac Tanks that aren't played enough don't end up on the charts. Although I'm pretty sure that some tanks like WZ120FT do actually meet the threshold, but WG just doesn't put them on because they'd appear so horribly unbalanced
snow zodiac
Fair enough
solid gate
Is the Wolverine worth buying? American tier 5 tank destroyer.
lyric copper
well any tank is worth if one knows how to use it to its full potential
onyx coral
It would be interesting to see WR/Damage by tank and by PC/Mobile. I wonder what tanks play better on PC and which on Mobile. Betting Light tanks play much better on PC.
solid gate
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wild gulch
What’s the best equipment for vk 100.01 p?
grizzled dock
Rammer
fleet berryBOT
𝕻_𝖀_𝕸_𝕻_𝖀_𝕸#7674 was muted
alpine idol
Anyone know why it wont let me play
grizzled dock
Exit then reenter
alpine idol
I tried that a few times
solid gate
@solid gate Why isn’t JP II on that graph. And those stats are bull. The Ferdinand is a piece of trash in battle. It’s slow, easy to flank, and even the frontal armor has stupid weaknesses that render it moot. The gun is nice but it is the same gun JP II has. Only thing that ruins JP II for me is the 6 degrees of gun depression. That combined with crappy hull armor (not casemate armor but hull armor) makes the JP II just as crappy as Ferdinand imho.
alpine idol
Its still not letting me play
This was the same tank i was playing when i got kicked from the server
wise moth
@solid gate Here's the full chart
Also, these are the stats for the players on the CIS server with a 55-65% wr
solid gate
Well I’m on NA so that doesn’t help.
wise moth
Well, it's the stats that WG uses to balance tanks
Like it or not, this chart is very relevant
solid gate
I don’t care what the stats say. Everyone I know says Ferdinand is crap and I can kinda agree with them. I tend to think JP II is even worse but Ferdinand is pretty bad.
random tartan
bruh that's imbalanced af
also can we talk about how KV4 has been sh*te for ages now
solid gate
I played both those and JP UI frustrates me just a bit more than Ferdi but Ferdi isn’t very good itself.
crystal hare
@solid gate wolverine is very worth it once turret and gun are researched then it starts to shine
I play it as a medium and it is very nice
Trolly front armor
solid gate
What the heck!? They are terrible at spelling some of the tanks names. Like KV-4 is KB-4 and I cannot read what that -3 tank is. IS-6 also looks misspelled. And I don’t think these stats are completely accurate.
frigid compass
its in cyrillic you dumb dumb
solid gate
Man I don’t care. If I/we cannot read it then they need to do a better job.
solid gate
Well it looks to me like a messed up N and a C then -3.
frigid compass
its a russian I and S
solid gate
Well I’m not Russian now am I? Pull these from NA for goodness sake if they even have NA stats charts.
wise moth
@solid gate They're literally WG's internal balance charts. They have no need to translate them. The fact they release them for us to see is already way better than most game companies
frigid compass
well if you have seen the generic slavaboo saying the generic russian curse words you'll know that C is S
also yeah most companies dont even show performance charts
wise moth
Also, it's not too hard to figure out what stuff is
frigid compass
^^^
wise moth
Like CY-101 as a tier 8 TD? Gee I wonder what that could be
frigid compass
NC-101 is IS-101 lol its CY for SU
solid gate
Well I thought it mean KV-3 but that’s tier 7. I’m not Russian nor do I know how to bloody read it. Case closed.
wise moth
I mean, I know I'm not Russian, and I can't read it either, but it's really not hard to figure out
frigid compass
i dont know how to read russian either and i can figure it out
solid gate
Ok smarty pants.
I don’t care anymore. Just move along to something else. Or back to the fact the Ferdinand has a high place on that bloody chart which makes no blast it sense. Must be the other countries players doing it because on NA server you hardly ever see it. Nobody on NA likes the bloody thing.
pulsar sinew
Wg goes off ru so
solid gate
What the heck:
Fake wait
That JagdPanther 3 literally looks like the tier 9 Foch @solid gate
Well it is a bit different but I can see why you’d say that.
Krokodil: Hetzer that decided to go to the gym
I found someone on DA made up a Panther III A blueprint series too.
The front view literally looks like the CDC
Even though the hull is different and the turret not slanted back
frigid compass
that mg port looks like a huge weakspot
solid gate
Well these are obviously made up designs. Though they do seem somewhat feasible.
I could probably find mor but need to get back to the actual game.
@pulsar sinew Well makes sense by the way since that is their biggest customer region and the country they are based in is close to it. But at the same time that makes bias as they crap on the other servers which don’t work the same player wise and maybe in other ways too.
tulip sail
What the heck!? They are terrible at spelling some of the tanks names. Like KV-4 is KB-4 and I cannot read what that -3 tank is. IS-6 also looks misspelled. And I don’t think these stats are completely accurate.
@solid gate
Why wouldn't they call the tank by its name? That's how its actually spelt
solid gate
T54E1 needs HE shells...
Not giving it HE shells in the first place is a decision I fail to understand
swift solar
Please help, this was my stats from like 2 years ago when i was an absolute bot. (I had like 2 braincells) I decided to buy it back and try to fix the stats, but also to grind the leo. I free xped the gun and golded the crew, but i still fail to do anything in this tank. May i ask HOW do you play this thing? It has decent mobility even with out the engine and tracks, and decent dpm. Only things that I can find good. THis thing has 6 degrees of gd. So you cant hulldown, has no armor so you cant block damage, horrible aim time for a medium of 4.7 seconds, so it basically cant peak-a-boom. How are you supposed to have an advantage over anything? I really struggle to understand how I am supposed to grind this for another 150 battles
for the leo... help (feel free to call me a bot on the 700 avg dmg)
also, @tulip sail The misspelling is the tank names in russian. KV-4 Is KB-4 in russian
wicked oracle
Hmmmm
random tartan
There are lots of things to complain about on the leo, but the gun isn't one of them
tulip sail
I know that's why I said it's spelled correctly
glacial tendon
the should remove the missiles and nerf those tanks
somber spire
Is there an Abrams tank?
bright folio
Closest things we have are the Chieftain Mk.6 and KpfPz70, and it should stay that way.
somber spire
Thanks
frigid compass
the Chieftain Mk6 is the closest we have as the kpz-70 is far from being accurate
like 40kmh top speed and the terrible pen
tulip sail
But on a technical level the kpz influenced the xm1 program more
swift solar
I take back my post on the leo pta, its better then i thought, but hard to work off the 6* of gd
magic ledge
my god i love the waffle
deep ivy
@magic ledge I liked the Boomstick before. But I like the waffle to. Another fun tank: the waffle Iron
echo knot
KV-2 Menacing with Wargaming logo. It's new?
I just saw it yesterday
inner moth
No, it’s a legendary camo for it. Just a normal KV-2 @echo knot
It was released a while ago now
echo knot
Yes, i knew it's a legendary camo, but the "hands" turns into Wargaming logo. I tried on my KV-2 the choice just like this, not with Wargaming logo
echo knot
Unfortunately, i didn't activate "save replay". I tried searching on google and didn't find it too.
Sorry for my bad english anyway lol.
dapper panther
Wg logo? Whaaat?
solid trench
Chieftain MK6....Enhanced Gun Laying Drive or Supercharge? What do you use on MK6?
thick trout
@echo knot If you put the stock turret on the camo changes to have the WG logo instead of the first, I have no idea why but that's just how it works 🤷♀️
I've posted a couple of pics in #screenshots
echo knot
i see... i rarely see KV-2 Menacing with stock turret, so i dont know. i thought everyone always use free xp to upgrade the turret lol.
thick trout
Yeah it's rare that someone would buy a legendary camo before playing enough to unlock the turret or free XP it so it's very rare to see
solid gate
Why doesn’t Wargaming buff T28? I’m sure even the stats show it’s bad. I think Wargaming just generally hates most American tanks.
It seems like WG want some tanks to stay bad (T28, Panther II, AMX AC 46, AMX M4 45)
M4 M45 I actually found enjoyable unlike most people. But now that Tiger I has had an armor buff on top of being faster and perhaps having better dpm........
But yeah it feels like WG hates most American/French tanks
Only thing M4 45 has that Tiger I doesn’t might be better penetration. At least on the AP. Oh and it has bigger alpha.
No, both have 225 alpha
Oh, right, it’s 225. Tiger has 220 so only slightly lower. Well like they don’t do buffing Pershing and T20. T20 especially as the majority hates that tank. I don’t know about M46 or M48.
M46 is second best T9 med so I don’t expect a buff
T25/2 probably should get armor buff. It’s a nice hull down tank but the armor is trash. Mobility is ok but not enough to counter the trash armor.
The traverse and turret traverse are terrible
Hellcat should get better turret traverse. It’s more of a realistic TD. Fast and light so it can go tank hunt. But the turret is too slow to keep up.
Yes I drove Hellcat and just thought « Why does everyone love this tank ? It’s horribly unfun to drive ! »
T32 is also quite power creeped, should probably get better pen or mobility
I prefer M36 over M18. I know a lot of people complain about how slow it is comparison and claim the armor isn’t good enough. But M36 can actually get a few bounces if played right. M18 won’t bounce diddly.
M36 won’t get penned easily by HE shells either
True. Also one person said if they buff T32’s pen they’ll have to nerf the armor. It’s apparently got the best base armor of all the tier 8 American heavies. But that armor doesn’t feel as effective as it should. At least not to me.
It’s effective, but lacking compared to other tanks (Löwe, AMX M4 49)
AMX 50 100 should get an aim time and/or bloom buff, because firing at medium to long range is just painful with it
fast compass
You shouldn't be mid-long range in a 50 100. It is a pure aggressive tank
solid gate
I haven’t gotten 50 100 yet so I wouldn’t know about that. Well the tank does have no armor realistically. In game that is.
fast compass
You try your best to comvince your heavies to attack with you and push. You have the speed to get into position, but not enough traverse to get out of situations.
Also hellcat is like the only tank i will ever drive at tier 6 again and again
50 100 is good at what it does. 50 120 on the other hand, has awful bloom and no gun depression or elevation while being a massive tank with practically no armour. Well i didn't like the tank, mostly because of the gun depression and elevation. You can deal with the bloom and no armour but not getting the gun down is frustrating.
solid gate
Sound like a worse version of the AMX 13 75. @fast compass
fast compass
You could say that but 50 100 has a bigger clip and excellent penetration. Also it can ram to some extent (but ramming is irrelevant)
The clip potential is what makes these french heavies (atleast partly)
solid gate
Well AMX 13 75 having both 6 degrees of gun depression and 6 of elevation is my biggest gripe with that tank.
Anyway T28 sucks. Especially when your team is a piece of trash team. Also not sure if T95 is worth the pain of going through T28 since that side armor nerf all those updates ago.
solid gate
I wonder if they could add the AGS Sheridan, Stingray, and M8 Buford (or any other AGS prototype tanks).
quasi mirage
i mean basically most of the french lights are pretty bad lol, 13 90 gets really bad dpm for a 90*3 clip lol, 13 75 has awful angles and is just a worse t71 with slightly better armor, 12t = 2.5 sec interclip and batchat 25t is a 310 with 3 second interclip at tier X which is awful. Batchat 25ap is pretty large and easily HE penned with garbage camo while firing the tank for some weird reason(really annoying trust me). Its a decent tank overall the 25 ap because it has solid standard pen(best after leo pta and cent in tier 9) with best in class gun handling with a reasonably accurate gun at .32 like the t61 and .1 dispersion which is great and 930 dmg in tier 9 is enough although not exceptional, I guess it could use a power to weight buff IMO which would make it good enough but the rest of the line is awful
solid gate
Please buff the T-34-3. It's a fun tank and I like to play it but it is inferior to the Chimera in every single way. Either give it a bit more pen, reload, front hull, anything. Or nerf Chimera. But you won't since it is a prem. So buff the T-34-3.
tulip sail
Except aim time and most stats are only slightly better save for a few
solid gate
You know what? They should remove T92E1 and move Sheridan down a tier and give Sheridan a unique deal. Stock it will be normal Sheridan as derp but you can “upgrade” it to the AGS version. This will lead to Stingray. Now M8 AGS/Buford is a tricky one as it’s an autoloader and would need a different (another autoloader light) tank to lead to it.
Well they could do the prototype version of the XM8/M8 (which would be called XM8 or CCV/L (Close Combat Vehicle, Light)) as the tier nine. It might have a bit of unhistorical thing stock but fully upgraded it’ll be the M8 AGS/Buford but with weaker stats.
hardy cliff
I would love to see a Stingray in WoT blitz.
solid gate
Should I get Cromwell or nash horn
cromwell
Ok I will
nashhorn will get HE from kv2
weak armour
solid gate
There is a Valentine Mk XI with a 75mm gun. It was only a command variant.
Also is S supposed to be a C in Russian or did Wargaming just make an error? The engine on the Val II is labeled as AES A190 in game but it’s actually called AEC A190. Also Valentine II has a higher top speed than what I’ve found the Valentine variants had.
solid gate
@solid gate can you get a new avatar please
Why?
#rules and because I asked nicely
the mods dont like evil historical figures
Ok it will still be related
Better?
Let me consult the mod team
It's patton
the council shall decide your fate
Lol
What is mod?
It's fine
What is mod?
Moderator
What would happen if I change it back (I am not going to)
I'll warn you. If you don't change it after that I'd ban you
Ok just curious
solid gate
Ok @SpartacusDiablo [iii] can I ask you a question
visual jolt
@solid gate What’s the question?
solid gate
What can I not use for my avatar?
#rules stay within these guidlines
So can I put a picture of stalin (
?
If you did not get it yet, the world is filled with people that are getting triggered daily as a job, better just put a normal picture and read the rules
O did read the rules I don't know if stalin is in the parameters?
Yeah people get all (words I am not allowed to say) these days
glass crypt
🆗🆒🚮
fleet berryBOT
mudpitt18#5056 was muted
hardy cliff
Hey, do you guys think I should grind to the T-54 liwt or the RU-251 ??
lyric oriole
Ltwt
hardy cliff
OK then
grizzled dock
Hvwt
magic ledge
hmm is the Cromwell B good?
hollow moth
@magic ledge yes, one of the bests tier 6 mediums
13 degrees of gun depression, high speed, good at spotting and fast shoot
I prefer panzer 4 schmalturm because of the armor, the 0,1 faster reload, better cannon and the legendary skin
wise moth
I personally like the RU better than the Ltwt, but the 62A is better than the Leopard 1
hollow moth
It's a nice deal
solid gate
That’s because RU is faster, possibly even lower slung, and it’s got much better gun depression. Makes it better than T-54 Lightweight in several ways.
hollow moth
While CromB is good at chasing at high speed, at find enemies and circle them, the Panzer 4 Schmalturm does completely a different gameplay, it's slower but more like an assault CromB @magic ledge
magic ledge
The Bromwell is a tier 6 or a tier 7?
hollow moth
6
solid gate
Tier 6
magic ledge
ok thanks
solid gate
I might would drop everything and get the OF 40s if they added them as mediums.
magic ledge
what's Bromwell max speed? @hollow moth
solid gate
Like 64kph right?
hollow moth
64
solid gate
Same as regular one but the B has better gun depression. 8 on normal Crom vs 13 on B.
Anyway the T28 I’m mad to be playing. But I was going to use my 50% reduction in research cost certificate on the T95. Anything else I’m willing to go the long grind for.
quasi mirage
well the ru251 is special in that its basically one of 5 non tier 8 tds
that have LEGIT DPM, it has the highest dpm of any non td at like 2800 so its absolutely brutal when you manage to flank.
Most tier 8 meds are quite slower and have horrible dpm but usually have decent pen so flanking is rarely rewarded, basically the only non tds with legitimate dpm at tier 8 are the caern,patriot,m4 rev,ru251,and arguablly the progetto 46
M4 rev and 46 have 2500 and 2300 but they both have a weird high alpha system or autoloader so the dpm is solid overall
solid gate
Finally you chose a pfp
solid gate
Hey I was thinking of making a 3D model of a tank, but I'm not sure where to find diagrams/side-top-front view images to go by, any ideas?
magic ledge
@hollow moth bro the Bromwell is good as f
got 4 3rd class, 2 2nd class and 1 Mastery
solid gate
@solid gate Finally who chose a pfp anyway?
solid gate
I want Proper diagrams/blueprints, with actual measurements etc
solid gate
@solid gate Wouldnt mind going for the Stingray if it were to become the tier 10 putting the Sheri in tier 9
solid trench
System defence or improved module?
bronze ridge
When will angry conner be sold ,and is it sold for gold?
rotund skiff
Nobody knows until it's announced, this has been established
bronze ridge
:(
dapper panther
@bronze ridge @rotund skiff
so far it was sold annually, around St. Patrick's day
rotund skiff
@dapper panther it's been sold on other days than st. patricks i think but relatively rarely
and besides idk why this guy is so eager to buy an Archer
dapper panther
ofc it was sold other time than st. patricks sure. I just said that during that time it was sold every year so far :)
dapper panther
IMO it'd be a decent nerf for ATGMs if WG would bring back the "aim-by-gunbarrel"
therefore you wouldnt be able to trickshoot past ridges, but the guidability retains
forest ermine
I think you'd still be able to make trickshots easily then, by turning your turret back right after firing
dapper panther
maybe, maybe not. now the missiles are slower and turn in a mmuch higher arc, so I'm not sure about that
ofc, t49A was OP back then, but 2 years have passed since then, many new tanks came out, and the ATGMs were heavily nerfed
static trench
I think nerfing the in air turning rate of the missiles would be enough. Make the missile turn slower, needing to make a wider arc, and it would be way more difficult to make op shots.
forest ermine
for me the issue isn't with projectile speed, or gun direction. The issue is that as long as missiles are working even a little similar to how they work now, people can shoot other people behind rocks and such still, as it's only a matter of adjusting to the new 'laws of physics' of the things
dapper panther
it was already nerfed compared to the t49a event, you cannot trickshot in close range any more
because even if you manage to keep the camera' crosshair on the target, the missile cannot turn fast enough, resulting to miss 10-15metres away
IMO missiles are fine as they are as they require skill and luck to play them efficiently. without preactice you'd just handicap yourself
stiff ruin
I wish we had such missiles when I was in the military - wouldve been nice indeed - fact is they are too agile and that needs to change - this is almost the exact same issue the T49A faced - difference being it wasnt so accurate or manoeuvrable
oddly I didnt rage about the missiles, even did a vid where I didnt rage about the missiles, although I did understand the mechanics were not fair - my biggest issue was with the APCR in both tanks - especially the T92 - because the APCR made them utter monsters and contrary to what a light tank is meant to be - a light tank with TD capabilities - wow!
static trench
Btw i still claim that missiles are not op, and that they are just anoying and different. Wg developers' stats puts sheridan on number 13th tank on WR, for 55-65 % players ( so no noobs that have no idea on how to make the missiles work here). And that on a few weeks after their release when tanks normally look op. Progetto seemed op for a couple of months and then, even prenerf, the stats came down mid table. I believe sheridan is extrenely situational, one game u make 3 op shots, the next 5 games u make none, or u dont pen anything. And on top of that, look at good players stats, like Meadsy69, or Pantouflee, and you will see that they have dpb and wr on the sheridan in line with their other tier 10 tanks. Ppl are just anoyed cos gameplay changed and I get that. It is a gameplay problem, not an op problem. Same thing that happened wih the 183 prenerf. So in my opinion leave them as it is, or take missiles away. No nerf needed. Anyway thats my 5 cents. Now anyone call me stupid for looking at data.
stiff ruin
@static trench I said almost the same in the vid I did, although I also made the point that players (not the top players) hadnt worked out how to counter these tanks just yet. I do think the missiles are far to versatile and I saw a message somewhere from Ribblestripe that the intention with the missiles was to be more of a close range thing, which would make sense. The hit rate on the missiles is poor, around 73% in both tanks, and putting the likes of the OP RoyalFatness aside, the throwing missiles from 1 side of the map to the other is more the exception than the rule - however, having a projectile that can drop on u from above and do a 90 deg pirouette without breaking a sweat is a tad too much
static trench
Most ppl focus too much on the one time u get effed from such a pirouette. I understand the gameplay discussion as 'do we want this feature in the game?', but looking at stats, even his RoyalFatness is doing as good on the sheridan as in the 62a, for example. So no tank OPness there neither @stiff ruin. Interesting that you read it was intended as close range. I guess they didnt manage lol. I think WG didnt foresee the blowback from such a change in gameplay and meta.
stiff ruin
@static trench it was always going to be controversial and I think WG knew that - just how much controversy was clearly not considered
solid gate
Instead of worrying about Archer how about Achilles?
@solid gate Perhaps I should drop a secondary tier 9 plus the M8 Buford and see if they could do Sheridan like that then Stingray and Buford. Though Buford has an autoloader and the others don’t.
solid gate
Does the Buford have or it intended to have a 105mm autoloader?
quartz ruin
The German line need a tier 10 Light Tank. I nominate a Tiger 2 with an upgraded 2000 Horsepower engine, with an LTTB like mobility and a fast reload gun, kind of like E25 gun 😀 😀 😀 .
In my dream I call it Tiger 2 SFT.
Oh and it is a very versatile tank, hence "Balanced". It can act like a light or medium tank.
fast compass
It can act as a light or medium or heavy or tank destroyer
elfin orbit
Imagine a 17cm gun that can chase you down at 50km/h
quartz ruin
I can dream can't I? 😀 😀 😀
How heavy is the Jagdtiger?
Besides isn't that was what an MBT is? To play all 4 tank roles supplemented by ATGM?
glass crypt
most MBT hulls are wack when u forget about ERA and other add-on's 🍤
quartz ruin
I thought they had Chobham armour? Or was that just the turret? And the upper glacis angles should be quite effective. At least in Blitz since the T92E1 can bounce. They have a generally same shape and angles aren't they?
solid gate
WG: sells a million different OP tier 8 commie heavy tanks.
Player base: crickets
WG: buffs Tiger II front
Player base: endless whining and asking for nerfs
Not gonna let the Germans have anything good, are you...
dusk vessel
Remove ATGM still ,broken
rotund skiff
<@&481447501690568709> ^^^ i like a good rant but this is a bit much
fleet berryBOT
D.a.v.1.D#2027 has been warned.
dusky wigeon
solid gate
@solid gate The original had a 105mm M68A1/(X)M35 rifled autoloading gun if I remember correctly. There is a later variant with a 120mm but that gun is smoothbore.
hollow moth
In blitzhangar, you all can see what will be the next tech tree tank, we heard the new researchable tanks will be lights and...
Vickers light appeared on blitzhangar
It looks a funny tank, but in blitzhangar you can see the armor don't fits for a light tank, it's more like a semi-op medium
But obviously they will change more the tank
noble moss
the armor is very weak what are you talking about...
noble moss
yep totally
viral lodge
That isn’t semi OP
Want to talk about lights with armour they don’t need T92E1
Lots of lights/fragile meds have frontal armour that can get bounces sometimes
hollow moth
What do you mean about fragile meds, FCM 50 t? It's actually based to be a heavy tank
Type 59? Turret
hollow moth
Type 59 can get hits on turret anyways
hollow moth
240mm without angle, you can angle a bit and make 260 or maybe more
wise moth
The hull is roughly the same as a T-54. It can definitely be annoying to pen, but it won’t bounce all that much
viral lodge
It will be troll like the batchat front plate
hollow moth
It will be troll, I liked this idea
viral lodge
But by no means OP or anywhere near armour wise
hollow moth
That's hot
viral lodge
Unless it has the T92E1 autobounce type
hollow moth
Hey WG said they nerfed It, but my Löwe just gotta a bounce in that boy in one of the first battles of the day
viral lodge
Lowe is perfectly balanced T8 heavy
Semi pennable frontal plate, (decent armour) good gun, decent mobility
And a ton of credits
wise moth
@hollow moth You’re forgetting about normalization. Blitzhangar doesn’t take that into account, and the difference is substantial. Unangled, it’s 226mm effective vs. HEAT, but 199 effective vs. AP because of normalization
hollow moth
Huuuuuuum interesting
wise moth
@quasi mirage Yah, the 374mm pen you get on IS-4+CS HEAT isn't gonna be enough to pen that, especially considering that the Blitz Super Conq has slightly more armor than the PC one (like 3mm more nominal thickness, and like 1-2 degrees more slope)
And that's 395mm HEAT pen too
solid gate
wise moth
@solid gate It's weird because it's only ~280mm effective vs. AP and ~306 vs APCR, so anything that doesn't use HEAT will pen
upbeat river
hollow moth
My Jagdpanzer E100 likes this tank too @upbeat river, it's so easy to pen, like stab a block of jelly
minor mica
Did the t-34-3 get nerfed or did they lower the speed?
lyric oriole
No, it's never been a speedy Vehicle
solid gate
You know what sucks? When you cannot play because app updates.
minor mica
Oh
solid gate
How did you guys put your clan tags anyway? I never asked but now curious.
lyric oriole
@solid gate what do you mean
solid gate
@lyric oriole I mean your clan tags man. How you get them on here?
lyric oriole
I typed them
solid gate
Ah. That might be a problem for me as my name is already long. Then again yours is longer looks like. Also my clan (as in I own it) is nothing special.
minor mica
Bro just change your nickname
violet stream
So I just got my Rhm, motor for it as well. It's a meh tank right now...
solid gate
So now I see how Brenn got 2 or 3 names. Ha!
glossy cave
Hi should I get the e100 the e50 or the Chinese tank
solid gate
That there is a Sentinel Droid from KOTOR or at least the Old Republic era. Also I didn’t want the underscore in my clan tag but somebody else already had ITC as a shortening for their clan name.
Now I changed it again. Heh. To a fake tank.
zenith folio
Ok question what's the style of front plate called on that tanks like is4 is6 and vozilo A have ik is3 ect is pike and stuff like panther and just upper and lower but I can't figure out it
glass relic
Sloped plates? I guess.
solid gate
They are just funky welded together plates or something like that. Like you have the main plate then these other plates that are angled both horizontally and vertically.
I’ve decided that my Light Tanks (SLs, MLs, and HLs) will be using the standard slope. Mediums have a rounded edge where the upper and lower plates meet. Heavies have trapezoid design. Finally ACTs have a pike nose on both the upper and lower plates. Turret I’m calling more a wedge on the ACTs. Think like a thin crust pizza bent in the center. The TDs are spearhead shaped. Like pike nose but even more aggressively angled.
solid gate
Yeah. I got the designs mostly figured out in my head. Sadly I cannot draw them on paper much less put them on a computer app.
zenith folio
I think I am doing some thing similar to u but I'm using already existing parts to make a somewhat 1950 era german/soviet god of war and death
solid gate
Ah, I see. Well mine are completely made up. My own designs. Though I may request help in getting them into actual visual forms.
vast gyro
cerulean wing
Progetto 46?
lusty rivet
No, obviously the 65
It's not good compared to other tier 10 meds
Get a Leopard 1 or E 50 M
Or even the T62A since it's OP right now
viscid raptor
I’m interested. A while ago WG mentioned Japanese TDs. Have we had any news on it?
solid gate
They’re still in super test
zenith folio
Oh the obj 140 is still better than the t62a it's either that or I'm better then all t62 players and t22 players ect
delicate tapir
Yes
solid gate
Any tips for T 34 2G-FT?
zenith folio
YouTube may be of help
glass relic
Being a support might help
solid gate
T-34-2G FT is similar to the SU-122-44. Both have pants armor. Though SU may have better accuracy. T-34-2G’s gun kept trolling me. Hate that tank. Needs an accuracy buff if anything.
Don’t even try the tank after it though. Too slow and pants gun depression. Armor isn’t reliable either. Could try supporting with it I guess but that probably won’t work either. WZ-111-1G FT is just utter trash.
fast compass
Su has excellent armour against it main prey, lower tier mediums(and to some extent same tier mediums). Its armour is how the wz should have been balanced
solid gate
Well I find the SU-122-44 armor isn’t good. Might get a few bounces against what you said but otherwise the armor is useless. Now the T-34-2G’s is worse. So is it’s accuracy.
@solid gate so you mean if I grind Wz-111-1g ft is a trash? Or bad one?
@solid gate Well I may have been playing 111-1G FT wrong but even if played “right” it’s still a bad tank. I wouldn’t recommend it.
@solid gate okay
Yeah. I don’t know about the 111G and 113G but the 111-1G isn’t worth it. Until they buff it I’d stay away. The only good Chinese TD is the 131.
solid gate
111G is meh and 113G is a worse 268
hoary verge
Going for masteries at lower tiers and this tank is really great! Awesome for beginners to learn how to play the medium style tank
frigid compass
@hoary verge learn how to play? no no did you mean learn how to be useless and camp at fort despair bush?
because thats all what the newbies do
karmic field
The 111 and 113 have reliable frontal armor though, the 268 is trollish at best. Thé 113 tends to need HEAT/APCR to get through it
solid gate
Well 268 at least can get many troll bounces, because of its armour’s weird angles. 113 has almost flat armor, so it’s easy to pen with prammo
past crater
when using gundep the obj268 armor is actually quite good
solid gate
Germany did also have a second design of jagdtiger , the B design has the superstructure on the back with some slope to the front , would make a nice collectible , also waffentrager tiger fur 17 cm kan one/ 21 cm mortars would make a nice collectible , what about kugelblitz as tier VI light tank premium
Hope the store wil have more overt unity to get all vehiqules
They will never give the Germans anything cool and good. They'll just add more blatantly OP imaginary fantasy Soviet, Chinese and Middleearth tanks and wallet warriors will scramble to buy them like sheep. This game is made entirely for p2w 40%ers.
jagged atlas
я бустер кому надо дёшево бущу акаунты
hollow belfry
This is an international server
Using english is mandatory @jagged atlas
hardy cliff
For every single tank in the game, theres an IS-3 reskin as well
fringe mulch
@hardy cliff Ooo can you tell me some of them
hardy cliff
Is-5 , IS-6, WZ-112 glacial, WZ-112, WZ-111.
fringe mulch
Well i can understand the chinese tanks but the other ruskies wouldnt they be invalid as it leads to them tech tree wise?🤔
gleaming hollow
The Leopard is the best looking tierX German tank.
The E50M looks like a rejected boat desing
E-100 and Mause look like bunkers
Don’t get me started on the Vks
And the grill looks like a 5year old tried to draw a tank
solid gate
Grill looks like ww2 arty
quasi mirage
lol
solid gate
Well, it is
fringe mulch
I think it is a ww2 arty
solid gate
@frigid compass Fort Despair is usually a camp fest or go into the narrow section of the fort and get 7 to 0 or close to that battles. At least for higher tiers that’s what happens. Fort Despair sucks for higher tiers.
frigid compass
fake tanks yes
solid gate
Wonder how many times these showed up on Forums? I heard stuff like these did. Though Wargaming hasn’t added them to any WoT game which is funny. Well minus the E25 and JP II which we do have.
Funny how Wargaming seems to not add these since they are somewhat believable and Wargaming already adds fake tanks.
frigid compass
also that pic's shortening of Panzerkampfwagen is weird as its usually PzKpfw instead of PzKpfwg
solid gate
Yeah, that’s true.
I found a site that lists a bunch of fake German tanks.
@solid gate link? dm plz
@solid gate Just look up Panzerpedia Wiki. Sure to find it.
ok ty
T-34-3 has long reload for a 122 mm with low RNG, always less than 380 dmg every nearly 13 seconds when fully equipped. Since the penetration on the AP is also less than average, it would be better to switch gun from the D-25 TA to the D-25TG of the T-34-2G FT, with 192 pen. At least
low elk
T343 is just a chimera but worse lets be honest
its a more expensive t342 with the 122
solid gate
Chimera is WAY better and has gun depression, alpha and pen, all things T-34-3 doesn't have. Buff at least one of these WG
minor mica
The T-34-3 should get a pen and dmg buff tbh
solid gate
I vote lower the reload of T-34-3 and buff the pen a bit. Chimera has 460 alpha right?
lyric oriole
440
minor mica
The reload is fine it’s the pen and dmg that need a buff and not increase the reload time
solid gate
Ok I was over by 20 alpha. Um no because it's a 122mm and a 122 cannot have the same alpha as a 127mm. Though it would probably be 420 and not 440. However, tier 8 122mm guns generally have 400 average alpha. Nothing more, nothing less. I am sticking to lowering the reload time and upping the pen.
glass relic
34-3 has better turret survivability than chimera tho
Except it's.. cupola and cheeks.
minor mica
Scratch the dmg is more like pen and speed
fringe mulch
WG should add the jumbo sherman as a tech tree prem...its the sherman with a 105mm howitzer if you didnt know...idk t6 would work with reduced speed to the normal m4 sherman...i also know that it was in the game but it was removed, i just wanna see it in the game(...i started a little before 6.5).
somber rampart
The crates. They'll yeet the tank in crates.
fringe mulch
Beliveable
somber rampart
I hope they add the M4/FL10 with the older M4 body for France
fringe mulch
Tech tree wise?
somber rampart
Maybe like a permanent tech tree premium like the Fcm 50 t
France doesn't have much tech tree premiums
fringe mulch
yeah...i just think a permanent sherman tank in tech tree is perfect for the american tree as its one of the most iconic tanks
The m4 in general not just the jumbo
There was that m4 prem but with the t6 hull with the m4 t5 turret...it was m4a2 somethin tho @somber rampart
Idk
fringe mulch
Think so
Either that or the jumbo in the tech tree prems would be good...they have a t6 discount for the tech tree prems for that america thing...even without a t6 prem in the first place
low elk
called the T6E1?
the E2?
the E4?
the E6?
the E8?
somber rampart
Isn't the t6e1 the tier 2 tank that got nerfed or the other one?
somber rampart
I miss the old Ke-Ni
low elk
the new one is still op
fringe mulch
Do you even know what i mean by t6
somber rampart
But it has only two shells in the mag. WG could have at least gave it 3
fringe mulch
M4 jumbo @low elk
low elk
fringe mulch
Or the m4a2e4 @low elk
low elk
@somber rampart its got 1k dpm for a teir 3
110 drum damage
@somber rampart just saying
the KI NI is the most op free tank out there at teir 3
fringe mulch
Aint that, that $100 tank?
low elk
no
its the 50 gold tank
that used to be in the tech tree
lyric oriole
Compare Ke-Ni to Ke-Ni-Otsu
solid gate
@fringe mulch We already have Jumbo as a collector. Maybe M4A6.
fringe mulch
I havent seen it and i heard it was removed or somethin
cerulean wing
Yeah, one of my friends has that tank
It’s a absolute monster with its 150 mm armour frontally
low elk
isnt a vixen a female fox or something @cerulean wing
fringe mulch
Yeah it is
magic ledge
59-Patton worth 7k gold?
cerulean wing
However gender you are comfortable imagining me, goodness.
solid gate
I still have it. Just haven’t played it in a while. Still miss the M1A2 gun.
cerulean wing
I want to get it but, 7k
low elk
nah just a memory refresher for my head for the definition of that word
fringe mulch
@low elk can you show me a pic of the m4a6
low elk
M4A6
what
solid gate
59 Patton wasn’t any good when I played it. Heard it got buffed after that but doubt it’s much better.
fringe mulch
Idk read up a bit and youll see its mention
fringe mulch
Not me someone else mentioned it to me
low elk
it does not exist in game
i can check the game file but i doubt it exists
solid gate
Nope. There is an M4A6.
low elk
in game?
solid gate
It‘a not in game you guys. But it is a real tank.
low elk
yeah well no [censored]
solid gate
Like M4A3E6.
fringe mulch
I never heard of it...hang on ill ask google
solid gate
fringe mulch
"Medium Tank M4A6
Oct 13, 2016 · The Medium Tank M4A6 was the final production version of the Sherman, and used the composite hull introduced late in the production of the M4 and a modified version of the Wright Cyclone engine that could use diesel fuel"
Heres what i found
solid gate
M4A6 right there. Basically the track system has been lengthened.
lyric oriole
Pretty much Sherman V
solid gate
No. Sherman V has a different hull design.
fringe mulch
Aint the sherman V british?
low elk
i can mod the legendary camos to be part of the stock tank design
and so that you can get legendary camos for free
ill b posting up a link later on
lyric oriole
It's the closest you'll get is what I mean
solid gate
Sherman V is the M4A4 which is similar but not the same.
fringe mulch
@low elk wait...are you hacking WG? or somethin?
low elk
@fringe mulch no
a simple replacement of texture files
fringe mulch
Oh...you on pc?
low elk
wg dosnt issue bans on skin mods
fringe mulch
Ok then im just cousous
solid gate
Wait TE lists an M4A3E9 while Wikipedia lists an E6? Weird. Somebody messed up somewhere. Probably Wikipedia people. Or maybe both existed.
Wikipedia is really unreliable in terms of accuracy like that TE has the legit documents I’m in their official server
fringe mulch
It wasnt wika where i found it
solid gate
Wasn’t referring to you but the user above me
fringe mulch
Oh...sorry
fringe mulch
French gun perhaps
solid gate
They called it M4A5 Super Sherman. Problem is M4A5 wasn’t real or was placeholder name. Also there is already a Super Sherman. Oh and it is a French gun.
fringe mulch
Figured
solid gate
A 105mm gun.
fringe mulch
Great...now im back thinkin about the jumbo sherman again..thx
solid gate
And this one is odd:
solid gate
That’s an odd combination.
fringe mulch
Yeah
solid gate
It’s the same gun on that A5 super Sherman most likely a mock up off a visualization
I think we should get T22 Prototype. 76mm gun tank. It’s more like the T20 and T21. Mid-ground between T20 and T23. Also Pershing should be tier 7 and they could have put the T42 tank at tier 8.
Pershing ain’t T7 material it really outdoes everything there
zealous anchor
Pershing is pretty gudi like it just lacks in pen if you're gonna buff
fringe mulch
They should just add a t6 american prem as they said there would be a discount on american t6 prems...ironic and funny
Before you say anything i ment on the tech tree
solid gate
@fringe mulch They don’t necessarily have to. It’s a discount on all American tanks mate.
fringe mulch
Sorry when i read it my mind when directly to prems
A t6 prem for america would be nice tho
solid gate
@solid gate Maybe but maybe not and maybe it would have to be nerfed. But at tier 8 it’s complete trash. Big, slowish, and unreliable armor. Oh and the AP pen is trash and it doesn’t earn worth a darn.
@fringe mulch Perhaps but it would probably not be in tech tree. Though T22 is an option for that I’d they did.
fringe mulch
There aint much t5-6 prems so why not
solid gate
T22 is oddly a tier 1 in WoT Console. Only medium at tier 1 I found in that version of the game I think.
solid gate
That doesn’t mean it would be here. As I said it has a 76mm gun. So it’d fit right in at tier 6.
fringe mulch
Yeah it would
I just thought the sherman jumbo as a tech tree prem would work as an american smaller kv2
solid gate
lyric oriole
T-22 is broken on Console
tulip sail
Theres plenty of m4s they could make as tech tree premis
solid gate
122 Sherman when @tulip sail
tulip sail
Not soon enough
solid gate
No false build it now
tulip sail
But they already made a SO-122
solid gate
but not in LEGO city
solid gate
Kinda like T-34-100 and maybe even a T-34-122.
tulip sail
Kinda yeah
solid gate
People just kept trying to use the T-34 and the M4 as long as possible. Also that about a T-44-122?
Oh and I saw TE mention TS-2, TS-5, TS-6, and TS-31. TS-31 lead to the T110 project.
tulip sail
Yeah it just made sense since the m4 and t34 were both cheap and well built
tulip sail
Tbh both are meh
solid gate
Yeah. Now the Jaguar I found looks cool. It was a joint project between the USA and China to update the Type 59.
tulip sail
Tbh I'm far more interested in ww2 stuff
solid gate
I just like tanks in general. Doesn’t matter what era they are from.
tulip sail
I mean I find some post war tanks cool but modern is quite boring for me
solid gate
Heck you could even give me a made up tank and a backstory to it and that’d be just about as cool as any real tank. But the tank design itself needs to not be a Halo Scorpion or something worse (especially much worse) than that. It has to look nice and practical.
@tulip sail oh did you see the discussion in the server earlier
Apparently t30 had HVAP and some APDS prototype
There is a T58 as well as the T77. T58 has the oscillating turret and a 155mm autoloading gun.
tulip sail
Interesting @solid gate
solid gate
@tulip sail also even funnier to add on to that t30 was gonna doctrinally escort t29s
tulip sail
Wait really?
solid gate
And t29 had a 1400 HP turbine in the works
I forgot which channel it was in lemme go surf.
tulip sail
I honestly dont know much about there project
solid gate
@tulip sail I thought I knew the basics about it but dam t29 sounds like the perfect tank for the us
tulip sail
Yeah though it turned out to "not be needed"
solid gate
@tulip sail found it
tulip sail
Huh interesting
solid gate
Honestly the T29 series sounds like the best tanks the US came up with near the second war era besides Sherman
I mean swappable guns and more than enough power to move
I’d love to have seen a T29 go up against a Tiger I.
tulip sail
But of a tangent but I love how both the 30 and the m4 programs were literally build a bear workshop tanks
solid gate
Tbh m26 is a bit of a disappointment
tulip sail
A bit?
solid gate
Honestly the tanks before and after M26 seem better in some ways. M26 wasn’t great in reality either I guess.
Actually yeah a bit is an understatement how bad is your tank that the fact you had to develop it off almost 6 other models and still have critical problems that you waste 4 years on
tulip sail
Even the m46 was ok and then it was already out classed
tulip sail
I actually kinda like the m47
solid gate
M47 does have decent stuff but good god it’s hideous
tulip sail
No I mean I like its looks
solid gate
Honestly if the M46 in game is M47 when fully upgraded then the name should change. Same with Centurion I to III.
glass relic
That'd be interesting
tulip sail
It should but with all the naming issues I highly doubt they will
solid gate
I don’t understand how people think m47 looks decent the turret is so disgusting
Honestly I cannot find a best looking American tank for me personally. Even the M4 has an issue for me. The slope looks a bit warped or bent.
glass relic
Yep they'll having a hard time to implement it.
solid gate
Yet they can have tanks change names based on camos. Ridiculous.
tulip sail
Especially since they can't even get names right
solid gate
For example the Patton ingame M48 isn’t even the right model
I may say the T25 is the best looking American tank to me. Isn’t it the A1 or something?
tulip sail
The fcmpak40 isn't a french tank
solid gate
They didn’t receive the M68 til the A5 upgrade
Oh, so it’s the A5 then.
M48A5 is correct yet they are missing the extended engine deck
FCM Pam isn’t French? Then what is it?
tulip sail
German
solid gate
Pak is german iirc after the Germans recovered some of those hulls they fitted their AT guns to them
Oh. Also Merkava with M48/M60 turret.
Talk about ugly lookin.
I think it was M48 turret on the early Merkava Prototype hulls. Not the best looking things though.
tulip sail
After Germany finished invading France and turned to operation barbarossa they found they needed sp at guns so they used a bunch of captured french tanks into the marder1 series and also converted fcms int tank killers by placing their new at gun on it
west yew
solid gate
I see. Well now I want to find abomination tanks.
tulip sail
Modified tanks are the most interesting you cant change my mind
tulip sail
I need more on field mod stuff
solid gate
Oh that grim reaper Patton I just remembered
tulip sail
Why cant that be a premi
solid gate
Wait I did find a funky looking German tank on that Panzerpedia site. It was an E10 with a VK Leopard turret on it.
And somebody made this because photoshop type stuff:
Well ok this isn’t the ugliest tank: (Not by a long shot.) Still though.
solid gate
Well maybe later I’ll find the truly ugly tanks. Because they so ugly it makes you laugh at how stupid they are. Stupid and ugly tanks.
What the heck:
tulip sail
What's crew comfort
solid gate
What’s gun flexibility
frigid compass
its an ATGM launcher
low elk
thats the obj 432
frigid compass
thats object 775 lol
solid gate
Well Google shows whoever put a thread about it on some website called it the Object 775.
frigid compass
Pancake tonk
low elk
ahh it looked like the 432
frigid compass
wg should give us the Object 775 as a tier 10 ATGM premium tank
low elk
no the 3 shot autoloading ELC EVEN 90 as a ATGM autoloading tank
solid gate
Um no. Pretty sure EVEN 90 wasn’t an ATGM tank anyway. Could be wrong but I’ll research.
low elk
its for money
solid gate
FTR HW 30:
This could be a tier 6 tank added to my Swiss medium tank line. Not like we don’t have a 90mm tier 6 medium already so not a problem. P43 bis has 90mm that’s why.
somber spire
Can you get an Abrams?
tulip sail
As a vis mod probably
plucky junco
solid gate
What kind of ugly tank is that? D:
magic ledge
Defender Mk I worth the gold?
glass relic
Idk, i rather wait for it to be resold again.
dapper panther
16sec reload at best, takes 6sec to unload