#vehicles-discussion

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bright folio
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T34 Falcon.

neat nimbus
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Yes too bad I can't put a pumpkin on it just a eagle

rotund quail
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What nation is great for beginners?

lyric oriole
neat nimbus
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ah yes a echo vehicle (t34 1776)

lyric oriole
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The Dr. Mario of tier 8

neat nimbus
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ken tier 8 should say

solid gate
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The average joe

lyric oriole
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That's more Ke-Ni-Otsu vs Ke-Ni 👀

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Both Low tier

neat nimbus
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or ch-nu kai and chi-nu

solid gate
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I suck at wotb

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Had E75 then my little cousin sold it when I told him not to...

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So rip

frigid compass
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@solid gate why would you give account access to a kid

solid gate
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lmao

tall basin
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between t1 heavy and kv1 which is good?

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im still new to this game

solid gate
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KV-1 got nerfed and now it's bad, I don't have thr T1, but I suggest u to get the T1

tall basin
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thank you

tulip sail
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I know it's far fetched and doubtful they'd add it but I'd really like to see the ka mi (with the flotation boxes) as a low teir premium

civic terrace
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@tall basin depends which line you are more interested

solid gate
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@tulip sail anything Japanese and I'm in

thorn flame
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@solid gate yup it's bad now. I had to sell mine, which sucks because that was my favorite tank. They should've left it alone, it was balanced before.

solid gate
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To balance the rockets , why not add maultier with nebelwerfer as a light half track rocket tank with 6 barrels that could multi burst or single shot like an auto loader

lime heart
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I think is6 need armor buff is to weak

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@solid gate @flat pier @frigid ember

solid gate
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Didn’t JS-6 get a buff recently

lime heart
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The armor is too weak

narrow shadow
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It didn't and yes it needs a buff

radiant coral
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I agree

glass otter
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Buff the Patton already,it's meh as it is right now

golden birch
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I will gladly take a buff for a tank I like

glass otter
golden birch
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It’s definitely weaker than most of the meds at tier 10

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And the stb does it’s job better than it does rn

glass otter
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Exactly

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I honestly just want a DPM buff and mabey a hp/t buff

primal ember
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Is KV3 good at earning credits compared to IS ?

lyric oriole
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Both do it OK

glass otter
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Why would anyone earn credits with a heavy anyways?

deep ivy
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Because some people actually like the playstyle?!

hushed shadow
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Depends if that’s a premium or tech tree. The lowe is a very good heavy to make credits with

glass otter
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It clearly says KV3

rotund palm
primal dust
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Still prefer KV 6

neat nimbus
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I'm fine with KV 5

deep ivy
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Only one gun would be useable at a time and traverse to bring the other guns to aim would be horrible...
@rotund palm

solid gate
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@glass otter welp you show the dpm with CS, i wouldn’t say that it is bad, What the thing needs is an accuracy buff, and some more speed

thorn flame
thorn flame
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How does the E1 fair on earning credits? Is it as bad as the T49?

bright folio
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It you only shoot missiles, it likely will be just as bad.

thorn flame
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Damn, lol

fading ginkgo
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Jagdpanzer Entwicklung 100 is the best

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Best deathstar you can have

livid vale
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Yes use and Sheridan get behind it

glass relic
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Well T-55a is already a premium tonk in tier 9...

livid vale
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@glass relic yes you're right

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But t55 is a t55a with out A

sturdy meteor
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Mabey it should be a t 62 not a a like the t 55 a

solid gate
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T55A is a modification

eternal canyon
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"A" modification

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It just changes the name

solid gate
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I mean T55A removed a hull MG and had other differences beside the normal T55

bright folio
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The T55A in blitz is german/hybrid, with a German gun.

solid gate
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What

bright folio
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The gun is designated as follows: 100 mm Panzerkanone D-10T2S L/56

solid gate
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That’s not German D series guns are russian

bright folio
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Here's the historical designation for the tank on the blitz website:
An upgraded version of the T-55 tank. The T 55A had a higher level of nuclear protection and no bow machinegun. From 1962 through 1970, about 1,800 of the T-55 and T 55A tanks were supplied to East Germany by the U.S.S.R.

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Also, it's not the D series gun, it's the Panzerkanone designation.

solid gate
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@bright folio you literally just said the actual guns name alongside panzerkanone literally no German gun like that exists and is most likely a reidentification from when it was put into service in east Germany

frigid compass
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isnt T-55A just a T-55 with NBC protection

bright folio
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By design, it's russian. By use, it's German.

frigid compass
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used by east germany

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which was controlled by the soviets

bright folio
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It's as german as the lend-lease tanks are russian.

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@solid gate Wrong channel.

tulip sail
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@mystic socket for the most part as long as they have different models of the vehicles they put ingame it's not an issue

sturdy bane
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does anyone know why exactly the ke-ni otsu hasn't been nerfed

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i've heard one reason is because it's super rare and doesn't affect battles often, and another is because then all the people who bought it for its OPness would want a refund

tulip sail
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It doesn't have much of an impact

sturdy bane
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i see

tulip sail
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Relatively few people use it

solid gate
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The Chi-ri is damn good.

sturdy bane
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yes it is

blazing cobalt
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Autoloader

rotund quail
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Is the french td line fun to play and are they good?

frigid compass
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Foch 155 is good

solid gate
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Tier 8 and upper are very good and fun, great guns and mobility with strong frontal armor. Tier 6 will probably be painful to play if there are too much smashers and Tier 7 is basically a worse JagdPanther after the buff

solid gate
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If more recent vehicles should be add perhaps leopard 2 H should be add to its in service since end 70’s
Also marder and puma should be on the German techtree as fast light tanks wheeled vehicles to fill gaps in the techtree
Also maultier , grille 17 tiger jager b design waffentrager panter p1000 p1500 E10 and E100-Sturmgeshutz

The E100-Sturmgeshuts should have 17 cm K72L 50 that should be able to pierce 320 mm on standard ammo
The proposed design as frontally sloped hull. And gun mounth that makes it virtually impossible to kill by frontally approaching enemy’s but would be the slowest tank in the game

ruby bolt
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When does the French Tier VIII Premium TD AMX CDA 105 come into the game?

solid gate
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i like me

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I wish I was added to the game

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yea would be fun.

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in the grille tech tree lol

ruby bolt
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Tier 13

solid gate
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but tier 1 armour ;0

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Armour doesn’t matter when you can fire up to 120 km away

solid gate
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@solid gate Is kind of right.

We should have more E- vehicles, THAT AREN'T PREMIUM!

bright folio
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We have 5 tech tree Entwicklung-series tanks. There are two premium Entwicklungs. I’m going to get hate for this, but premium tanks are a good way to add new vehicles.

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An E-10 would be another small, low profile, mobile German td at either tier 5 or 6.

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As for the sturmgeschĂŒtz E 100, you’re just trying to make a badger with a better jageru gun, in what I can only assume is an attempt to make both obsolete.

solid gate
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JagdPanzer E 100 would still have better gun angles and Badger would have better mobility. Maybe it wouldn’t be significant though

bright folio
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The Badger and E 100 don’t really rely on mobility, and with the armor he put on the front, the gun arc wouldn’t matter nearly as much.

solid gate
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What about adding more Tier 10 light tanks
Rheinmetall Panzerwagen, T-100LT, AMX 13 105 and idk how the Chinese one is named

bright folio
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Let’s balance the ones we have before we go there.

solid gate
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True

dusky wigeon
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Guys can can people pen at15’s front an is angled hull

glass otter
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I don't want more wehraboo vehicles in the game thanks

solid gate
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You better watch your mouth

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I don’t want more freedom fanatics either

glass otter
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Nope

solid gate
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I require fast bois

glass otter
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I don't need more blueprint vehicles in blitz

solid gate
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What do you want, modern MBTs ?

glass otter
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Mabey

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Cuz
Why not

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We already have mbts anyways

solid gate
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Only some of the first ones, nothing after the early 70s

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And I don’t think more modern ones would fit in the game without losing everything that could make them special or being beyond broken

rancid mauve
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Is it just me, or is the KV-3 a decent tank with the DPM gun??

latent crane
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It is yes

rancid mauve
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đŸ‘ŒđŸ»đŸ‘ŒđŸ»

tardy talon
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kv-3 is a great tank, even with the 122mm

dusky wigeon
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I hate this game lol

tulip sail
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Then don't play it

visual jolt
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That’s the beauty of games

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You don’t have to play them if you don’t want to

knotty river
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Who also wants the Dracula to come back in the store

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I have cdc but I still want drac more

tulip sail
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Meh

knotty river
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Wait cdc or drac guys

tulip sail
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Tbh I have the drac but I've never played it

knotty river
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What why not

tulip sail
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Its simply not interesting

knotty river
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One game is good enough and you have never done it

tulip sail
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I've got the CDC and I dont care for it

knotty river
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That’s messed up bro

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Cdc + drac best tanks ever

tulip sail
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They aren't though

glossy marsh
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fast tanks are super fun though

tulip sail
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I dont enjoy them all that much

grizzled dock
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Ugh

wild gulch
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How do you unlock the nightmare?

tulip sail
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You cant anymore

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It was an event tank back for Halloween

normal wyvern
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It sucks anyway

glass otter
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They'll probably give it back or something,someday

neat nimbus
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hope has a cool camo like helsing and dracula and lycan

sinful current
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Tiger P with the armor boost that gives it 6% boost don't do anything to the stats

solid gate
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@normal wyvern nope it's the best HE damage for low tier

sturdy bane
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what’s rarer nowadays, churchill GC or kv-13?

raven bridge
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Both are pretty rare, but kv13 seems more of a common sight

primal ember
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Should I use KV3 or MT-25

wild gulch
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What’s the fastest tank

sturdy bane
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Ru 251 has highest top speed, but i’d consider either the LTTB or the Bulldog because of their superior acceleration and traverse

teal veldt
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Quick question, someone does have the M2 medium tier 3? Wich turret and gun does it mount?

sturdy bane
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M2M7 turret and M6 mod. 2 gun

broken turtle
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a-20 with l-11 gun is such a trash

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a-20 can't play as forward tank due bad armors

civic terrace
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It's a funny tank if you have the RNG on your side

broken turtle
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hmm....

lament granite
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Uhm which is the best non premium credit grinder

alpine notch
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A-20 is just versatile tank, when brawling, it just works, unlike A-32 (hull traverse is bad than A-20) @broken turtle

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@lament granite

BDR G1 B for Tier V
VK 28.01 or ARL 44 for Tier VI

lament granite
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I mean overall

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Highest credit coefficient in tech tree tanks

teal veldt
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M2M7 turret and M6 mod. 2 gun
@sturdy bane thanks

alpine notch
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deep ivy
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Dozer blade, havoc launcher (red tipped missiles), demolisher cannon and tailgate move, the 155mm shell is removable just like the havoc launcher and the dozer blade

frigid compass
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that isnt even a 155

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thats a bigger caliber

deep ivy
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Inner and outer gun are black

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Oh, behind the flaps the headlights sit

frigid compass
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nice

tame jungle
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“155mm Shell”

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Lol ok, 40k Vindi has a 380mm rocket launcher

pine jolt
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H

oblique terrace
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just hoping that the devs will, one day, give the tier 5 light tank, amx elc bis, the 90mm gun in blitz like in wot pc.

I wouldn't even mind a collector's variant of the elc bis except with a 90mm (hopefully keeping the same mobility) - same concept as the stug and its derp gun variant, the nightmare.

lyric oriole
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Give us 3 reasons it would be beneficial to the game

bright folio
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Beneficial =/= making the tank better.

latent crane
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Thoughts on 121B

lyric oriole
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121B is decent, good armor, Decent DPM, and accuracy, mediocre Penetration but that's not a big issue

oblique terrace
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  1. the elc bis with the 75mm top gun is the lowest dpm light tank in its tier when compared to all the other lights with their top gun. Having the 90mm would not only provide gun variety but would also give it a competitive edge over other lights with its alpha and, most likely, better penetration.

  2. since the recent buffs to certain tier 5 and 6 tanks in 6.3/6.4 (armor buffs to the bdr, t1 heavy, the m6, vk 36.01h... the extra shells in the magazine of the tier 5 light, leopard) I feel that having a 90mm on the tank would hopefully stack up better against those tanks that were buffed.

  3. last but not least, I feel that the 90mm would provide a better introduction to the magazine loading lights that are further down french light tank line. With a 90mm gun, you'll obviously have a longer reload than the current top gun, the 75mm. If the 90mm is added, hopefully those who are new to the french lights will develop a hit and run strategy earlier on

@lyric oriole

lyric oriole
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ELC Bis has the highest Alpha of tier 5 lights, giving it the ability to trade with other vehicles already.

The penetration is also above Average already and higher than the Leopard which has a measly 95.

The accuracy though not as good, is better than same tier lights during movement.

While it doesn't have as much armor, it makes up for the lack thereof in Camouflage, and mobility, way out classing same tier lights.

If it ever got a 90mm it would have to be similar to the Scavenger with lower Penetration. The 90mm provides no benefit to the AMX ELC Bis Except for higher Alpha, combined with its stealth and mobility would break tier 5. The tier 5 AMX ELC Bis is a stealthy light which shouldn't be dealing directly with VK 16s or Tier 5 meds or heavies but instead at Range

fringe mulch
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Hmm great argument

frozen mural
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T55 hybrid nationđŸ€·â€â™€ïž

next solstice
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buff the KV1. It's armor was never that good before but now it's just a squishy lump

solid gate
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@next solstice agreed

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@frozen mural ikr

visual hatch
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Add double barrelled Russian tanks lmao

solid gate
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Maybe

prime vale
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@deep ivy that looks better than the one in game

deep ivy
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Its space marine blue. But below it, instead of white or grey, its grey knights silver. Also did the painting uneven on purpose to make it look a bit worn (since the thousand Sons are old, dead, dusty space marines). The gold is a perfect contrast

prime vale
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👍🏿

neat nimbus
barren sleet
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Generally players are talking about balancing tanks of t7 to t10. As i'm beginning an new account, I realize that some of tanks of t3 and t4 are really bad (to not use a word beginning by s...). In t3, D2 tank is really bad. As for other tanks, I've a WR of more than 60 , with D2 I'm reaching harly ever 40 whether the tank is top or low tier. It's the same with A20 which is the worst t4 tank. If A20 can struggle on equal term with same tiers, low tier, this tank is absolutely s.... No pen even with gold. At least, MM for this tank should be limited to its tier. Other T4 like M7, Pz4D, Matilda and B1 having beter pen can struggle honorably in t5. Or WG has to buff A20 in order to not result in nightmares for new players to progress to t5.

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I specify that this new account is not my first one.

ocean shale
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hello

fringe mulch
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Sup

ocean shale
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should i buy the t 55a

fringe mulch
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Do YOU want to buy the t55a?

ocean shale
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kind of

fringe mulch
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Hmm

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You think its worth it

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If you do by all means do it

ocean shale
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hmmmmmmm

prime vale
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I see the ticket restoration is acting up again certain tanks I have dont show up on the list

latent crane
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@barren sleet A20 is great, Wdym lol? I have 70 WR in 24 battles of it.

tulip sail
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24 battles is hardly a large sample size

latent crane
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I never claimed it was. But it was easy to play, I got tier V and maxed it in 2 dozen games

tulip sail
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A small sample size means its easier to be influenced by anomalies meaning it holds little weight compared to statistics such as a comparison between it and other tanks of the tier

valid lodge
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100 battles in usually a decent indicator

wild gulch
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What’s the best setup for leopard

solid gate
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Can t-34-3 get a acceleration buff it’s slow top speed is good but it’s got no speed I think it would make the tank much better

lyric oriole
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Well I'm glad you think that

glass relic
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I'd go with acceleration than top speed, since it got enough top speed as a medium, imo.

odd tulip
elfin orbit
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Well its an amx 13 variant alright

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Im guessing 13 75s

rapid barn
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Looks nice. But not turret traversable

frozen moth
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Guys I can buy the t57 heavy or the obj268 td which one should I go for?

brave glen
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268, T57 is more of a tank you buy for the sake of having it

somber rampart
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Do you know how to play autoloaders?

brave glen
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268 currently is one of the best tier 10s. Good armour, great gun, good gun handling and surprisingly good gun depression

rigid thunder
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it also has the best camo in its tier, and good mobility to allow for fast positioning

frozen moth
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Yes I know how to play auto loaders both kinds

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268 is what I will buy then

candid slate
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I wish obj 705A in blitz

somber rampart
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I wish we have the Swedish TD’s especially the tier 3 one...It looks so good

neat nimbus
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Any of you guys knows a good vehicle for realistic mode battle

dapper panther
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252U 😄

solid trench
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Sheridan and T92E1 they can do it all

neat nimbus
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Lowe seems a pretty option

solid gate
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Those are both 13 75s....

neat nimbus
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But kinda want know what will do the job

dapper panther
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Maus-line would be fun

deep ivy
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Try the vk 100 or T28 prototype/defender

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The turret on the T28 prototype is a nightmare to hit in normal where you got the armor highlights to help you. Now think what kind of nightmare it is without. Good luck finding the weakspot now

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And defender also has the magazine which allows for 1200 damage in 14 seconds

frigid compass
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T28 prot turret is a joke to things like the M6 EXP

crude gorge
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the isu-152 can pen the t28 prot with ease, doesn’t even need to aim

elfin orbit
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Isu can pen nearly anything it hits bro

quasi mirage
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Dude

worldly raptor
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It's annoying how when people with tier 10 can get a lot of gold. And in Tier 3 you can get 6 basic crew rings to upgrade your crew in 6 battles. Why can't lower ranks have it. The percent to get a T-25 from a Medium Container is literally 1% and for people who have tier 10 have a 80%.
And then you are surprised that everyone says "It's a pay to win game. You should stop playing it". I like the game but for Tier I to Tier VI it's very hard VII and VIII including IX is very soon to X which you can get some cool stuff. Why not tier 5 AT LEAST?

frigid compass
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@worldly raptor getting tanks from the daily containers is a very low chance for anyone

solid gate
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I'm honestly not sure what was just said.

worldly raptor
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But gold isn't?

next solstice
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i only got a T-25 after maybe 20-40 medium crates

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usually i just get boosters

lyric oriole
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It's random for everyone... As much as I personally would like people with tier 3s being able to purchase limited gold, that isn't the case.

short flame
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@worldly raptor actually y nab, crates are dropping prem tanks more often when u have low tier tanks only, as happened with my various accounts.

violet stream
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Which line is harder to work on, the Grille line or the Jagpanzer E-100 line?

hollow belfry
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Hmm

violet stream
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I'm debating if I should get Grille of Jag

hollow belfry
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Just got my Grille today, don't have the Jageroo yet

violet stream
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I only have one tier ten. (I suck at Blitz)

hollow belfry
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But if you like accurate guns with a turret and good acceleration, go for the Grille

violet stream
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How hard is the Grille line?

hollow belfry
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If you prefer armor, the Jageroo will fit better

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The Nashorn is actually workable, St. Emil has in my eyes the drawback of being HEAVILY team dependent but it has a very good gun and depression angles.

violet stream
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I got to the Nashorn, then went to the Jpanther.

hollow belfry
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Borsig was pretty fun. Very good camo and traverse, it actually worked better with the 12,8cm better for me (accuracy and pen).

WT is even better, it trades a bit of camo and traverse for better speed and gun depression (that's why you should use it with the 15cm guns). The PaK L/38 is a must have, keep some free exp.

Grille has poor traverse, worse camo and gun depression, yet it's gun is a true laser with top-notch shell velocity and dispersion

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Good horsepower/weight ratio too (19 hp/tons stock if i'm not wrong) @violet stream

violet stream
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I was very hesitant to work on the Grille line, but you've managed to sway me. Thank you @hollow belfry. The line sounds pretty good even if the overall stats aren't perfect.

hollow belfry
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It has no armor, but this line taught me you don't always need heavy armor to win a fight

fringe mulch
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Nope just a long gun

hollow belfry
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Those tanks are "WaffentrÀgers". Literally "gun carriers". That's what they are. Accurate guns, on a chassis with weak armor and decent to good manoeuverability

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Earlier today I was shooting at a T-62a and T110E4 in my Grille. They were 420m away, but I felt like they weren't that far away. The dispersion is just amazing

rapid barn
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Yes

fossil fulcrum
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Is the Udes good? It would be an idea of they added it to WoTB?

flint eagle
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Any tips on the German bulldog? I feel like I’m playing it all wrong. I typically don’t do good in it as a spotter. The second I get spotted I’m rushed and HE’d by those looking for a juicy meal.

solid gate
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Got the SU-100Y for cheap with the 20% off coupon. It is just as OP as I thought. It is a tier 6 St Emil except it also has armour, mobility, HP, good RNG and infinite Soviet Bias. I am loving it.

brittle valve
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Type 59 is king of tanks

limber aurora
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T55A worth getting?

dapper panther
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Vk90 is also a fake tank
@solid gate

proper slate
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im very fond of the grille line rhm has one of my highest wr for some reason

latent crane
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@limber aurora I have 3k avg, 65 wr in it

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I’m a 63.5 WR player so I suppose it’s a little better than an average tank

rapid barn
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Nice

neat nimbus
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anyone else thinks people will complain about japanese TDs?

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also i afraid if they add the wheeled french lights will hapen same as the ATGMs tanks

rose venture
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Oh nooo, i do not think they will add wheedle vehicles in blitz for the same reason they supposedly won’t add the Jap heavies: maps. But tbh I actually think that wheeled vehicles are not meant for the small map size of blitz. I’d rather they finally fix the French tech tree and give me mah amx 13 105 đŸ„șđŸ„ș

fading iron
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Fv badger???

maiden belfry
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Does any one know what a panzer 58 is have a camo for it called Mutz looks like bear but can’t find tank it goes to ? Help if you can!

dapper panther
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its a premium Indien 😄

maiden belfry
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Dose it exist any more or should I deep six it?

dapper panther
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keep the camo certificate, WG may sell it anytime soon or later

maiden belfry
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Lmao my luck never again đŸ˜†đŸ€žđŸ€ȘđŸ‘‹đŸ‘đŸ€“

bright folio
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It gets sold rather often.

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It’s fun, but mediocre.

rancid mauve
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Got 2.2k damage and 4 kills in a KV-4 and got a Class 1?? That’s silly, right? In other tanks, that would be a 2nd class at most.. is nobody playing this tank???

livid yacht
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Just not unicums

rancid mauve
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??😂

frigid compass
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all the unicums already went past it or just skipped it

livid yacht
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And also it needs a gun handling buff really badly

rancid mauve
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Agreed. I think traverse needs a buff. I’m on stock engine and 86% crew and can barely move.. I doubt the engine will help lol

elder blaze
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@brittle valvehow t59

solid gate
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Is churchill III worth it?

fringe mulch
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Idk is it @solid gate

rancid mauve
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How do we feel about the Chinese TDs? Asking for a friend..

solid gate
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The tier VI is amazing

wise moth
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^
That
But the rest of the line kinda sucks

dapper panther
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113G FT

wise moth
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Pen doesn't compensate for the tank being horrible

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I mean, at one point JgPz E-100 had 462 HEAT pen with calibrated shells đŸ€·

dapper panther
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never ever :)
also, 113G FT is not horrible, just have to treat it carefully

calm inlet
dapper panther
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niice

solid gate
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When short gun barrel, always Refined gun, when long gun barrel, Vertical Stabilizer, that's my rule

rancid mauve
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@solid gate I like the way you think

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Running Refined Gun on my Grille brings the dispersion to 0.255

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Amazing accuracy

dapper panther
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113G FT has a surprisingly accurate gun, despite the barrel's shortness

hard lagoon
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Ikr

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Maybe the Chinese are copying the Russian biasđŸ€”

solid trench
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Refined gun on cent 7/1 makes dispersion 0.261

solid gate
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Refined in leopard 1 drops it to 2.52 or 2.44

solid trench
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Lovely leo

rancid mauve
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Gorgeous numbers

livid yacht
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The T7 chinese TD is great too imo
The T8 is like the 268 in T10
For me the worst was the T9 in the line
Terrible DPM and the front armor disappears in T10 completely
The only good thing is the huge gun mantlet when you facehug an other TD
Saved my life several times

real pulsar
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And the UE57

lyric oriole
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UE 57 still exists 👀

dapper panther
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so does mk1

lyric oriole
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That's actually gone

dapper panther
lyric oriole
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It has to be in the game to register on stats

real pulsar
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Its a extreamly rare tank given to ogs

lyric oriole
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No.

wise wind
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well it was a event for it

real pulsar
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It was the first event i think

wise wind
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so it isnt that og and yes i was at that time

solid gate
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Play a battle and you got it free

wise wind
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idk if it was the first or not

real pulsar
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The ue is limited also

lyric oriole
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No

solid gate
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When's the next Tank Anniversary? Would like to get it back.

real pulsar
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I think it was the 3rd year

lyric oriole
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UE was a former tech tree Vehicle

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Mk. 1 was an event in September 2016 because it has been 100 years of tanks since then

wise wind
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hmmm i think they should do a new tank close to scav but more futuristic like t34 on that event u know

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who has the scavenger actually?

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or dracula?

real pulsar
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@zinc marlin has it

wise wind
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which one?

real pulsar
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Both

wise wind
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wow nice

real pulsar
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Drac and scav

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He has the two faced camo also

wise wind
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i only have scav since i was really young at that age

lyric oriole
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I have both, the Scavenger was only a little over a year old and easy to get

wise wind
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bro i remember the old times when there was T46 and bt7 art

real pulsar
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He has those to

wise wind
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me 2

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not in the garage tho i have almost all old tanks

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but sold

real pulsar
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Oof

wise wind
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aight ima play some solow

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solos or duos lel

rose venture
#

All this discussion about rare tanks makes me want WG to do a collector tank event.

crystal hare
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^

hard lagoon
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^^^

crystal hare
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Event: you must collect coins for voucher to get collector of your choice (by winning )

iron egret
#

đŸ€Ą

valid lodge
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Would love a collector tank event where we had a chance to get one of the lost tech tree tanks. Actually make that 2 because I need churchill gc and the t21

iron egret
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Subtle way of saying 5.5 sucks

solid gate
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@wise wind i got the drac but sold the scav cuz it sucks

lyric oriole
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Scavenger isn't bad đŸ€”

glass otter
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I honestly see a scavenger as a pile of HP

crude gorge
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scavenger is an average tank

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with the 90mm gun it seems unique, the problem with the 90mm is the absurd penetration of that gun

solid gate
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Who know where is the rack of kv 2 ?

sinful current
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The side/back of the turret

solid gate
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Ooh ok

sinful current
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Look in #screenshots and I'll show you me ammo acking a kv2 in a kv2

frigid compass
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the 94mm of the scavenger has gotten powercrept hard by the armor buffs

crude gorge
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that gun only works against tier iv now

azure plover
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out of curiosity, what's the most accurate tank in the game? (or most accurate gun)

random badger
#

how to counter atgm tanks?

rigid thunder
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the T-62a, Grille 15 and E 25 all share the lowest base dispersion at 0.272

azure plover
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cheers

sturdy bane
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so does the AT 15 and E 50

rigid thunder
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oh fr? Never knew

azure plover
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oh good cuz i was planning to go down the e50 line

sturdy bane
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but base dispersion is 0.288, 0.272 is with provisions

calm inlet
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you can get it down to .244 with refined gun

hollow belfry
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.244 with refined gun and both provisions

rapid barn
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The kv2s gun is accurate because it’s Russian

hollow belfry
rapid barn
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With Russian bias that’s OP

hollow belfry
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Plus most russian tanks are not known for their accuracy (exceptions can be made for some high tier vehicles like the T-62a)

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Imagine the KV-2 being a good tank lol

rapid barn
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Did you just say that? You are not very wise

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The original and the best. Still derpy and still good

hollow belfry
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The best

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HAHAHAHA

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Always a pleasure to fight KV-2s in my VK 36.01 H or Tiger I

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wich a KV-2 can even not pen with prammo, and must rely on 300 dmg with splash every 20 seconds, while the Tiger inflicts around 220 dmg every 6 seconds

crude gorge
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like kv2 is not even that hard to deal with, the superior version of the kv2 is what you should fear

hollow belfry
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^

hollow belfry
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Smasher is a bigger threat, indeed.

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But the KV-2 is like a bad joke to deal with. Only good to spam HE and one shot stupid and unaware players if you land your shot. It’s alpha is the only good thing about it. Everything else sucks

frigid compass
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Smasher can deal with every armored thing from tier 6-8

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275mm HEAT pens everything

hollow belfry
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It has surprising accuracy for a 152mm gun at T7 too

frigid compass
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yep 122mm accuracy more or less for a 152mm

hollow belfry
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Still, I don’t play T7 much these days

frigid compass
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i play tier 7 a lot because i have the smasher

hollow belfry
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I enjoy my Grille too much

frigid compass
#

i wonder why the Lupus is considered "Seal Clubbing" on Blitzstars but not the Smasher

hollow belfry
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idk

frigid compass
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IS-5, Helsing, IS-3D and Lupus are considered seal clubbing but not the Smasher like bruh

rapid barn
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IS5 the og and the best

frigid compass
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IS-5 isnt even seal clubbing performance wise

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neither is the lupus

rapid barn
#

Ok then. What about the SU 100Y?

hollow belfry
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IS-5 is worth 1500 gold for sure, but there are better heavies at T8

frigid compass
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SU-100Y relies on spammo prammo just like the Smasher but for different reasons

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@hollow belfry yeah

hollow belfry
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coughs in perfectly balanced Tiger II

frigid compass
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yes very balanced

rapid barn
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Roger 2 is broken AF now. So good. Love it

hollow belfry
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They still didn’t balanced it. I won’t complain about that tho, I enjoy playing mine a lot

rapid barn
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I did a 4.8k dmg ace in it. Carried the team doing half or more of its dmg

hollow belfry
#

Nailing a T92 400m away with the Grille is satisfying

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expected a lot worse compared to the Waffle, seeing what I was told by other people

junior skiff
#

Hello

inland osprey
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The Grille isn't that bad itself, just that the Waffle is on another level

half tangle
#

Tiger Ⅱ is BaLaNcEd?

hollow belfry
#

ever heard of « being ironical »?

half tangle
#

I understand that

echo drift
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Nerf these stupidly broken t7 tanks back. The only tanks that are okay now is the panther and the is-2 as they were trash before. Things like the jagdbunker (jagdpanther) tiger1 and t25at (the t7 version of the wz-120-1ft + good gun depression) are on smasher level

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The black prince which already was OP with 3k dpm 1.6k HP and a not too shabby armor if used right. Even without armor how could you not do damage in this tank? All you do is shut off your brain and go in whilst using your anti damage and ultra speed consumable to make it even harder to get through the HP‘s of a t8 heavy tank.

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And one last point. A friendly reminder of your t1 heavy vk36.01 tiger2 and ofc the missiles They are more balanced than my diet during christmas 🙂

frigid compass
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Tiger 2 is very balanced

echo drift
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Sure. It just has a better lowe plate than the Maus

frigid compass
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i mean with the only tier 7s being able to pen it frontally being tds, smasher and amx m4 45 its balanced right

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oh and Type 62

echo drift
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Not even all td‘s. Only su-152 with heat AND calibrated shells can reliably pen. The front if not angled at all is ~260mm

frigid compass
#

SU-100M1

solid gate
#

Just shoot HE at cupola m8, why you mad

frigid compass
#

well tbf SU-100M1 can pen an E-100's turret frontally

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imagine needing to HE the roof to even do damage

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Smasher counters Tiger 2 with 545 alpha shots

echo drift
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But as the tiger2 playerbase it more retarded than involving missiles in WoT they wont nerf it as WG‘s perfect way of balancing only cares for the average winrate of a tank. Which is probably the worst indicator ever

frigid compass
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not really the tiger 2 win rate is high

echo drift
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Smasher counters everything. Even wz-120-1ft because it is broken and wg does not nerf it as they are stupid

frigid compass
solid gate
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Jagdpanther HE is surprisingly efficient due to high rate of fire and good accuracy. Just hit them for 130 dmg every 7 seconds.

echo drift
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Oh is it now? Maybe because dirty stat padders like me abused it alot

frigid compass
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130 damage per 7 seconds is literally worse than tier 5 dpm

solid gate
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Yes, but its better than nothing

echo drift
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I still see tiger1 and tiger2 players play completely shit and get rekt.

solid gate
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Since Tiger II is broke af

frigid compass
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Jpanther can pen the tiger 2 lmao

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it has 265mm pen APCR

solid gate
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I don't use prammo

frigid compass
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imagine not using prammo ew

echo drift
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Then u r nub sorry

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As soon as i cant pen i use gold. Why not. I can go make credits with my balanced premiums

frigid compass
#

you're putting your team and yourself at a severe disadvantage by only HEing the roof of the tiger 2 instead of using APCR

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as a good Tiger 2 player can wreak havoc on the enemy team

solid gate
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I'm good sticking to AP

frigid compass
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those matches are rare

solid gate
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Nah, I almost never do less than 2k damage in a match with the Jageru. Its such a good tank

frigid compass
#

Jageru/Jageroo is the Jagdpanzer E-100 lol

solid gate
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Jagdpanther is the new Jaageru

echo drift
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Another last thing. REBALANCE (not buff or nerf) the SU-100M1 and Su-101. the 101 is a worse jpanther2 and the su-100m1 whilst it has crazy premium pen it is not a good 2nd line support bc of poor firepower for a TD and not a good assault TD because of the weak armor. What they did on pc was nerfing mobility and gun handling alot but giving them really good armor putting them into the niche of assault td‘s which was one of the best things ever

solid gate
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Since it bounces more than the E100

echo drift
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@solid gate so your avg damage is 2k on jagdpanther?

solid gate
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Yes

sturdy bane
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SU-100M1 is awesome, gun is more than adequate and mobility is great

frigid compass
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no his average is 1976

solid gate
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Oof, you got me there

frigid compass
#

i really need to get back up to 2K avg in my smasher

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got a 1992 avg rn

solid gate
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The only reason I don’t have average 2.5k in the Jag is because I grinded from stock with 75% crew without using free XP. Since I got the top gun, 100% crew and installed equipment and those good provisions, every second match is 3k+ damage. The armour is troll, the gun is beautiful and mobility is epic.

echo drift
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@sturdy bane it is not

sturdy bane
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it’s a t49 without a turret

echo drift
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It is a pea shooter that has underwhelming damage output compared to other t7 TD‘s on a rather mobile platform without armor.

proven wyvern
#

lol I just realized I got 2.3k average dmg, the tank is insane. I assume similar stats on the T25AT?

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I mean the JPanther

echo drift
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Even if there are a handful of broken tanks on t7 that cannot be changed stop making more tanks broken in order to make the broken prems normal. This is not only cheating on the own policy of never nerfing premiums and by that harming the owners it is also harming the entire game. Now t7 is just a shipwreck noone cares about a handful of dracs or helsings..

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@proven wyvern that is crazy good. Thats my avg on wz-120-1ft xD

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I dont know how good you ate but it showcases how stupid broken some t7s are now

proven wyvern
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@echo drift I'm rank 18 on Blitzstars w/4617WN8 if that means anything. And the funny thing is, many broken T7 tanks before this update are actually collectors so idk what WG is doing

short flame
#

did this dude actually said jpanther splash HE is very effective and 130 dmg x 7 seconds is good? pls kill me đŸ€Šâ€â™€ïž

crude gorge
#

Lmao

next solstice
#

the japanese mid tier meds?

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they're shriveling up

proven wyvern
#

what? They existed?

solid gate
#

@next solstice Japanese please. Don't use Jap.

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@short flame And? I'm not going to spend credits on prammo to fight Tiger II from the front so I might as well annoy him constantly with HE instead of giving him a steel wall. Plus Jag HE works on literally any turret roof making even american heavy hull down irrelevant as they are not immune while camping a hill.

short flame
#

fun fact: every he splash works on weak roofs/engine decks, thats just how you use he to splash dmg
you can just aim the hatch with ap lol

solid gate
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Bruh I ain't aiming into a T34 turret to have a 10% chance of penning with AP while he can smash me for 350 dmg. I'll just yeet HE at the roof and skiddadle

crude gorge
#

it isn't going to do much though, like a 100ish damage

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In the 152mm cannons, you can yeet HE into pretty much anywhere and you would still do at least 300 damage but in a 105mm, you wouldn't do that much like a 100ish or so

solid trench
#

The IS6 offer is tempting. How do you like the IS6?

wise moth
#

@quasi mirage Honestly, this nerf is realizing my greatest fear; that WG will nerf the Sheridan just to bring the stats down enough for them to call it “balanced” for pub matches, but leave the toxic missile mechanic in the game

quasi mirage
#

^

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Yeah it makes no sense why they are nerfing the pen on apcr which is fair enough without completely destroying the missiles @wise moth

remote surge
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@solid trench The IS-6 is rather weak especially for the average player, but the deal is pretty fire. If you think you can get used to angling a Russian heavy (which you don't normally do) the IS-6 is for you. But there are much better tanks for less, like the IS-5 which is only like 1500 gold.

quasi mirage
#

But good news is that with more lights wg will buff the batchat

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Also the 6 sheridan t92 games were complete jomes

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You literally couldn't do anything there would be a missile in the air every 6 seconds

next solstice
#

i still need to max out my personal access~

visual jolt
#

@timid jay English please

quasi mirage
#

@next solstice remember you only need 1 TIER 8 premium and make sure its a fun one

timid jay
#

Would it be possible to place the TAM (medium Argentine tank) on the German branch as a light tank?

wild gulch
#

So I’ve been told Ru 251 is the fastest tank in the game. Going to advanced statistics says it can reach 80 kph. It only goes 41 kph on its own, but amc elc bis can go 47 with just engine. So which is measurably faster?

scarlet rapids
#

Is there a way to see stats on the tanks?

calm inlet
wise moth
#

@wild gulch RU-251 will hit 80 if you go on a straight line for long enough, or down a hill. The "average speed" metric is kind of useless. When you judge a tank's mobility, there are 3 main factors:

  1. Effective p/w ratio. This is engine power divided by weight, divided by terrain resistance (not the in-garage terrain resistance though)
  2. Speed limit. This is the tank's maximum speed in a straight line. Unless you're going down a hill, which might put you over the limit by 1 or 2 km/h, this is a hard limit on how fast a tank goes
  3. Traverse speeds

The ELC will accelerate a little faster than the RU, but the RU is still much faster

wild gulch
#

Ok thanks

scarlet rapids
#

Oh danke @calm inlet

pulsar remnant
#

What should be the first thing I get on a stock leo pta

raven trout
#

Any tips for playing with Emil? Just discovered it and it's pretty bad. I enjoy playing with nashorn, but Emil is just so much slower and that dmg is nothing...

crude gorge
#

are you using a 75% crew for the Emil?

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and get the engine first because it is the cheapest one and then proceed to get the tracks next to compensate its lack of speed and then finally get the gun, at least that was my adventure with the stock emil and trust me, once you get the gun it will become significantly better

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in the top gun which is the 12.8 cm, remember that you don’t have any prammo but with that 231mm of standard ap pen, I’m sure you won’t need it much

next solstice
#

also use ur gun depression, u can flex really well with the tank

plucky summit
#

At least it isn’t an easy HE on the front, but the speed could be better. Tiny putter-engine :/

shrewd ravine
#

The huge gun mantlet can be troll especially when using the gun depression

crude plume
#

Basically an Su level of mantlet troll?

glass relic
#

Kind off but most people will clap it's cheeks anyday than risking shooting the mantlet

iron egret
#

Bruh wth KV-5 is ram god

#

I accidentally poked one in my Tiger II
Got 100 damage and my tracks disintegrated

civic fiber
#

When are the Japanese TDs released?

bright folio
#

Soon, I hope.

hushed shadow
#

Likely 6.9

deep ivy
#

@iron egret KV-5 is a super heavy, super big tank

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Of course ramming it sucks. Ram damage is dealt using the weight

grizzled dock
#

@deep ivy rammed it with my st-1 and took like 400 damage.

crude gorge
#

it weighs like a 100 tons

#

ramming it is a very bad idea maybe unless if you are in another very heavy tank, the vk 100

grizzled dock
#

Yes i regretted it for the rest of the battle 😂

crude gorge
#

which weighs a 120 tons, the wannabe vk 100 which is the vk 168 weighs exactly 168 tons so it is probably the heaviest tank at tier 8

#

even though it is that heavy, it is one of the worst premiums at tier 8

grizzled dock
#

Too many weak spots i agree

crude gorge
#

yeah, like why buy the vk 168 in the first place, you have the vk 100 which is better than the 168 in many aspects

grizzled dock
#

True smaller weak spots and thick armor

crude gorge
#

vk 100 has the hatch and the lfp as the 2 primary weakspots and vk 168 seems to have more than that

grizzled dock
#

Its cheeks are insane

crude gorge
#

the hatch can appears unpennable to some tier 7 tanks unless if they use prammo which could pen you

grizzled dock
#

Yeah lol so rip mobile players when you wiggle

crude gorge
#

yeah i agree you could wiggle but with that speed, they are probably going to pen you still

grizzled dock
#

Ye i guess. The armor is still crazy impressive. Still got difficulty penning the front with a bl-10

crude gorge
#

ye, armor is good, as long as you dont expose that lfp and you have to wiggle every second if you dont want to get pen in the hatch

solid gate
#

Can WG nerf Smasher already?

Being able to do 980 damage alongside injuring crewman and damaging parts of a vehicle is too much.

Also, what's the reload time on the Smasher?

crude gorge
#

like 16 seconds?

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per shot?

grizzled dock
#

15 with rammer @crude gorge

crude gorge
#

i think most people who owned the tank would run CS for that maximized 275mm of HEAT pen

#

the one thing that is very op about the smasher is the accuracy

#

that accuracy for a 15 cm cannon is crazy

solid gate
#

The Accuracy is op, but you're also forgetting the damage it can make.

#

Theoretically, the Smasher uses the same gun as the KV-2, right?

crude gorge
#

same alpha damage, the smasher is a fan made kv2

#

its origin is from like what a fanart of the kv2?

frigid compass
#

Smasher has the same gun as the SU-152 but with more accuracy

crude gorge
#

"15 cm Smasher V2"

solid gate
#

Just went to the Blitzhangar, to check and see if KV-2 and Smasher share the same gun.

#

They definitely have the same damage.

I also checked the preview for 6.8

Did you know SAU-40 will get an armor buff?

crude gorge
#

yeah

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i dont really care if that thing gets a buff but when i used to play it the armor is non existent

rancid mauve
#

Am I the only one that really enjoys the 12.8cm gun on the RHM?? I can’t stop playing it! 😂

wary ferry
#
hollow belfry
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@rancid mauve same, 128 is way better

rancid mauve
#

@hollow belfry I love it. You can play it more actively or at least a bit closer up and pens everything!

hollow belfry
#

Accuracy is quite good too

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I had around 0.290 dispersion

rancid mauve
#

Accuracy is great on it for sure

solid gate
#

Let's see: T-34-3 vs Chimera. Less gun depression, ok, the 122 mm reload is much LONGER than a 127 mm, mobility and armor lightly better in Chimera, pen much better on Chimera. At least buff reload of T-34-3 and its pen a bit. It should be the 122 mm to reload better

solid gate
#

Facts. The Chimera is much better than the T-34-3 in every single way except turret armour. Just not balanced.

raven trout
#

I just noticed that the better engine for Emil is only tier 5. But why, when Emil is tier 7?

glass relic
#

Because it uses a weak engine? Like the T95 that uses Tier VI engine on a tier 9

solid gate
#

Pretty much.

raven trout
#

I was just surprised.

tall basin
#

which one is better?

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tiger 1 or tiger p

#

im still new

frigid compass
#

depends on your playstyle

tall basin
#

like how

rigid thunder
#

the tiger 1 is more of a heavium, while the tiger p is a generic heavy tank. Both are great right now, but I'd recommend the tiger 1 simply due to the fact that it leads to the tiger 2 (which is pretty op) and the recent armour buffs make it even better at smashing mediums

tall basin
#

so have to grind it to maus

rigid thunder
#

the tiger P leads to the maus

tall basin
#

oh sorry

civic terrace
#

The tiger p leads to the maus vk72. 01 and the jagdp e100

tall basin
#

maus is op right?

rigid thunder
#

nah, it takes a whole lot of skill to use correctly, and even then it's not op, just a good tank

tall basin
#

so e100 is the most op tank?

solid gate
#

There is no most OP tank. Even the best tank is trash in the hands of a noob. And even a trash tank can carry in the hands of a good player. And then there are the teams

tall basin
#

youre right

#

all tanks are the same is just how you use it

solid gate
#

Yes. St Emil is absolute doo doo yet I'm gonna keep playing it since I like a challenge and nothing beats a 4k damage game in an Emil

deep ivy
#

@tall basin
To list some stuff:
Tiger (p) has the best frontal armor of any tier 7 a.t.m., while also carrying its big heavium brothers high dpm gun

The VK 100.01 (p) is outright powerfull when used correctly. Smashing through most tanks with ease it is a great carrying tank, but learn to jiggle the hull.

Mauschen is that tank that, without the best engine installed, sucks. But fully upgraded it is a menace

Maus is faster and better armoured. Powerfull but with a low dpm gun it will hurt trying to kill one. Good choice for first tier 10

solid gate
#

Never stand still while playing the Tiger P though, since the lower plate and cupola are paper and everyone knows to shoot there.

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And the cupola is huge, so try to move the turret and wiggle as much as possible

deep ivy
#

Tiger 1 is kinda painfull at first because you get penned. A lot. Good dpm and nice turret compensate

Tiger 2 is right now one of the most op tanks at tier 8 with good frontal hull armor and sidescraping abilities. Does get random penns on commanders hatch and lfp

E75 is really painfull after the tiger 2. Lfp gets penned by both tier 8 and 9 easily. Turret is a heat magnet (or actually: gold magnet)

E100 is right now starting to get old. Everyone knows where to fire to kill one

VK 90.01 plainly sucks

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I'm at vk 45 (tier 9) right now but I don't like the line. Paper armor and bad guns. Only at tier 9 it starts to improve

tall basin
#

whats the point of medium tank

solid gate
#

Good mobility, good guns, good armour. They are the most balanced tanks when it comes to stats.

deep ivy
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They are only the tanks that dish out the punishment and troll enemies

tall basin
#

i suck at using light and medium tank

deep ivy
#

@tall basin what tier you @ rn?

solid gate
#

Lights are the hardest to use since they have no armour and HP. Not starter friendly.

deep ivy
#

What is your highest tier?

tall basin
#

tier 4

deep ivy
#

Server?

tall basin
#

asia

deep ivy
#

Ok. Cant help you then...

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Wanted to show you how to play each type of tank

tall basin
#

yes plis

deep ivy
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Ok. Gonna do it with replays on pm

tall basin
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my pz 4d is easy to destroy because i dont know how to play it

solid gate
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Yes, it has weak armour that you need to angle to have a chance of bouncing shots. The top gun is amazing though.

tall basin
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can i play with friend

small zodiac
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If im right aint the strv Swedish ??

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Tier 6 autoloader

tall basin
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are you a swedish tanker?

small zodiac
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No

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I feel like the strv 7a is a swedish tank

tall basin
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then what are your faction tanks?

small zodiac
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?

deep ivy
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@small zodiac it is swedish

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@tall basin I'm dutch but play tank from all countries

tall basin
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im german

small zodiac
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Im american with a german last name

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Idk german but i have german in me

tall basin
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too bad the german tanks in this game is weak and not powerful like in ww2

small zodiac
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Ehhh

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The maus is strong tank

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Just angle when getting sho at

tall basin
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im talking about the king tiger

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tiger 2

small zodiac
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Oh

rigid thunder
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the tiger 2 is amazing right now lol

small zodiac
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The tiger 2 is better in war thunder ngl

tall basin
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too bad it is in the museum

small zodiac
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I saw a sherman at a army base with my dad

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He toured me around

tall basin
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that must be some awesome sighting

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to bad ww3 is coming

small zodiac
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Yea

hollow belfry
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Tiger II is amazing
Currently one of the best T8 heavies

deep ivy
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Whatever you do guys: DO NOT BUY CHIMERA
You will only get uptiered and become a wreck

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T92E1 wil be you nightmare

iron egret
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You bought Chimera?
Pressed F to pay respects 😔

deep ivy
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I got it on two accounts now...

rigid star
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I think that the t 44 should get a armour buff

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Right here

remote surge
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Lmao the roof isn't a problem. The main armor is, but even if it is underpowered it is still quite OK, performs better than some other tanks in the tier, like the Panther II or the Pershing. It still gets a strong turret and a higher alpha gun that is decent, and the traverse is insane, which makes it proficient in close-range.

It is weaker, but not a problem atm.

rigid star
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But the pen should be better

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Ap should be at least 205 mm at least apcr 230 mm he is the same

bright folio
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All the 100mm guns at t8 have >200mm pen.

remote surge
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@jovial drum It is also not worth it at all. Just get an M4 Rev.

crude plume
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We are talking about WG. Just reminding you. I don't think they care anymore as long as they get money

bright folio
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You could by the Tog bundle and still have a bunch of extra gold.

solid gate
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@jovial drum need you to change your avatar

crude plume
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That's a yikes.

solid gate
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First run tanks are usually expensive. More than likely it'll be sold again in 3 to 6 months for less.

bright folio
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I'd be surprised if that wouldn't be the case.

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The Tog bundle is still a better deal than the Chimera.

solid gate
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Best Chinese line?

lyric oriole
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Meds

wise moth
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Heavies

fringe mulch
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Lol

bright folio
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lol

rigid star
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The t 44 deserves a buff what do you think guys

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It was once the best tier 8 medium in the game it was

fringe mulch
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@jovial drum acatars?

solid gate
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@jovial drum I told you why. No politics. Change it now please

livid yacht
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But his name is fine ? lol

solid gate
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Nope

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Only comment I will make. Too bad actual Wargaming staff aren’t here. Otherwise I’d post my vehicle tree proposals here.

dapper panther
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make a ticket or a forum thread then

fading ginkgo
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Soo what is the Chimera? Is it real or another WG's Fantasy tank? Is it fit to the game? And most importantly is it OP?

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If yes I gonna buy it instead of waiting the Defenders on sale

solid gate
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It's op only in the hands of an experienced player

solid gate
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The damage is insane, heard that from a friend

fading ginkgo
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420 damage, 212 Penetration.....

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13 seconds of reload.... and heavily armored, seems like that Chimera thing is slow

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Aight I'll wait the T-28 Defender

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Meadsy hates Chimera Btw

bright folio
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The tank iteslf looks to be a good example of what a premium should be-not op and somewhat unique. I have problems with how it is being sold.

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I think meadsy hates the fact that it's coming in crates.

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Not necessarily the tank itself.

dire sky
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@bright folio chimera is not a crate tank

bright folio
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Nevermind about the crates then. He was going off about how expensive it is.

dire sky
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Yeah it's just not worth it, I'd pay about 12k gold a most

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17.5k is more t10 and that's if its op

bright folio
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It’s hilarious that you could by two T55as for less.

echo drift
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T-55A worth it?

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I have t54 and amx30proto

dire sky
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@echo drift T55A is op if you know how to use it

solid gate
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@dire sky every tank is OP if you know how to use it, we understand that stop pretending that you're smart

echo drift
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Lmao. I want to know if it is worth buying when you own a t54 and amx30proto

solid gate
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Probably not

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But the T-55 (counting the A variant) is an iconic tank, the most produced tank ever. Idk why it isn't researchable, feels dumb

dire sky
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@solid gate stop being a jack ass, what i know is common knowledge if u can use one of the t 55 tanks you can use em all , Bushkas the smart one

solid gate
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Ahahahahaha

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@dapper panther I did. Thanks.

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@fading ginkgo I don’t know about the Chimera medium/heavy tank but there is a Chimera TD that was at least a project that got somewhat done before probably being cancelled. Or it could have even been produced to a degree but was phased out. I best go look into it.

dire sky
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@echo drift I have all 3 of those tanks, it plays like a t54 but with slightly better characteristics, the amx 30 proto is better in terms of its gun depression and speed but I prefer the 55a because of its armor

solid gate
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Ok never mind that. See this is why I should read before saying anything. It didn’t have any built but it was a SPATG (Self Propelled Anti-Tank Gun). Basically a TD. But it was thought or drawn up around 1984 so um yeah.

echo drift
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Well t54 has a useful upper plate

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55a does not

dire sky
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I get good use out of the 55As armor, I prefer the 55A over the 54

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If you don't have the tank it's hard to judge it, unless you toon with someone who does

solid gate
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And we cannot get this Chimera because it was to use Chobham armor angled a at 20 degrees which is equivalent to 1400mm of RHA. That’s according to TE.

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Jesus

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Yeah the Chimera 1984 is too strong armor wise for Blitz or any WoT game for that matter. Unless they did a tiers XI-XV. (I think that’s how you do 15 in Roman numerals.)

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And apparently (I don’t know where they found the info on these) the Chimera is a 1950 project and the “Manticore” from PC is a 1955 Chimera project for a SPATG which is light enough to be called a light tank.

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There’s also a T77. You can find T77 on TE. Oh and there was another that’s similar to the T54E1.

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They both look kinda cursed

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Well I don’t want PC British light tank line so I scoured TE and the internet to put my line of choice together. But if Wargaming deems the last 2 too modern then we’ll just have VI-VIII. I don’t want the Manticore and whatever that other one is. Here’s my list though:

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The scorp kinda fast?

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Eh I think it was from 60-70kph tops so not any faster than other lights. The weird thing is the Scorpion 90 will have that same speed most likely but the RO2004 drops to 55kph top speed. Then the VFM 5 aka Vickers Mk 5 goes to 72kph top speed. Weird but this is what I could find without putting a stupid 30mm autocannon at tier 8 or tier 9 like some people want to do with a British light tank line. At tiers 9 and 10 if you have a gun smaller than a 100mm you have too small a gun.

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@solid gate vfm MK5 can be an exception considering it sports the L7 aswell I believe and is a variant of the M8 buford

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@solid gate Yeah it has the L7 105mm which is why I picked it. Same with RO2004 as it has a 105mm gun as well. The problem is there are mid 1980s designs so they may be too modern even if nobody (from what I can tell) actually used them. But it’s not like they have armor anyway. Heck I think at least one of them it says has aluminum armor as it’s main armor.

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@solid gate both featured aluminum as the hulls main armor how ever bufords gun is a completely advanced and different gun from the M68 while vfms will fit right in

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@solid gate M68 and Buford are the same thing? Also I may want to look at that tank or those tanks.

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@solid gate Hmm? No buford has the M35 gun that was a huge upgrade over the M68

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@solid gate I wasn’t talking about the gun but the tank as a whole. Though nice to know about the gun or guns too.

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Oh! I did look at the M8 Buford. But what’s the M68 then?

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@solid gate m68s the gun on the M48 and M60 Patton it’s the L7 but the American version

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Ah, I see. Um wonder if they should add the Valiant and the supposed/proposed Heavy Valiant. Not that the original Valiant was good irl.

solid gate
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They should make a tier X td with premium rng and 300 mm armor 183-mm gun 70 km/h and call it WZ-69-420

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What’s the difference between the Strv m/42-57 Alt A2 and the Strv 74A2?

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Please go be funny else where because yo ain’t funny @solid gate

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It’s a genuine idea

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@solid gate That would be as bad as adding Strv 2000 T140/40 as a tier 10 heavy or medium.

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It’s wargaming what do you expect they don’t care about the game they just want money

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The only downside to the T140/40 would be lack of ammo. 19 rounds.

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It’s like 72kph top speed I think, ridiculous armor, and it’s a 140mm with autoloading system.

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Is that your only justification @solid gate just “it’s wargaming they’ll do it for money” I mean if you really think that then you must be as dumb enough to be the ones who actually buy the crates

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Most of the Chinese tanks are made up

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A true MBT. Fast, well armored, and a good gun. Only problem is the lack of ammo storage capacity.

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I mean they still have to keep the game running because no game equals no money, also I’ve never bought a crate

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Doing an idea as dumb as that literally kills the game it’s common sense yeah put dumb op tank like that ingame= profit such nice logic dude wow congrats

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Your point exactly?

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I don’t need some wargaming suck up calling me an idiot because they know I’m right 😂

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I think Wargaming can totally do my British and Swedish light tank lines. Though I have to give thanks to another for their proposal for the tier 10 Swedish light. The D version in particular of the UDES 14 is suiting as it’s the UDES turret on an Ikv-91 hull. But the B variant looks appealing as well.

Also what’s the difference between the Strv m/42-57 Alt A2 and the Strv 74A2?

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How in any way are you right nice job ignoring all my points and you haven’t even justified yourself at all also wow thanks for calling me a suck up not once have a I supported any of their decisions @solid gate also very brave of you to think your right

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If you haven’t once supported wargaming’s decisions then why do you play the game? @solid gate

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@solid gate you can’t talk since your in the official discord aswell meaning your also into the game aswell

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And btw do you not know what f2p is?

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Free to play

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At least I supported a couple things they did

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Guys!

brave glen
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They have different names 😳

solid gate
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@brave glen They have different names? What are you talking about?

brave glen
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Don't worry, I was just joking around. Let me do some quick research

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I was hoping they were irl tanks... I can't be arsed to research these two tanks

solid gate
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What 2 tanks?

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Oh! The Strvs? Yeah they look like the same tank but Wargaming’s PC staff named it differently than Wargaming’s Blitz staff. Not sure why.

rapid barn
#

Only downside to helsing is the slow turret traverse

viral lodge
#

For the Caernarvon, I have the first engine upgrade, should I go for turret and gun or the final engine?

regal zealot
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Go for turret and gun

solid gate
#

Sheridan and t92E1 would be good even without rockets

iron egret
#

Yep
TD firepower with LT speed and near complete immunity to HE

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Hmm
Been trying to get P.44 Pantera but P.43s pretty much suck
Cant flank, cant bounce, cant use GD, cant hulldown, can barely spot (too slow to spot maybe)

civic terrace
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@iron egret yeah basicly is the p43 bis but a tier higher but the reward of the Pantera is worth it

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And use the free exp to unlock asap the autoloading gun on the pantera

fluid grail
solid gate
#

Any tips for the french td line starting from tier 6 onwards?

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How about adding a new german premium tank , like the P1000 ratte
This tank takes 4 tank/player slots because it’s size , a true multi barrel giant
Enemy’s can’t mis it but it’s firepower is true terror

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@solid gate We dont need more premium's

deep ivy
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@solid gate me like

frigid compass
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lol if japanese heavies are "too big" then ratte is way way too big

solid gate
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How about the kugelblitz , a light tank ,dual auto cannons that an rotate and elevate 90 degrees , designed as anti air but also useful against light and medium tanks

iron egret
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Kugelblitz cant even pen a Centurion's paper front

hollow belfry
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Tier III tank then, you ain't doing anything to heavies with autocannon lol

iron egret
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If you want pewpews then suggest to WG that they add the Warrior FV, armed with a 30mm autocannon that can penetrate around 170mm of armour

solid gate
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It’s just spot and chase spotters

solid gate
#

Any advice for jagdpanther?

hollow belfry
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Use the ridges and 8 deg of gun depression to make your armor even more effective, stay close to teammates

solid gate
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If top tier, push. If bottom, second line support.

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When top tier, you should always be on the frontline as your gun is the team's most valuable asset and wasting it sniping is a sin.

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P43 tanks do have meh mobility and the turret armor sucks sure. The ter though I thought was better than the bis. They both have slightly slow reloads too.

dusky wigeon
#

Is 6 so hard to play

cerulean wing
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Not if you use brains

sweet peak
#

why does SU101 have better premo pen than IS7 ?

autumn osprey
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@dusky wigeon its very outdated. Has great overall armor, but a lot of heavies and meds can pen its front plate now

spark basin
#

super conqueror in crates bet

solid gate
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No I tell you what’s hard to play. Chi-Ri. Man that thing sucks.

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@tacit pecan What is that supposed to be?

tacit pecan
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read title....

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or check the news....

solid gate
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Dude I cannot do that on a phone.

tacit pecan
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it will be new researchable british LT

solid gate
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Oh! Ok, it is in the Coming Soon deal. That doesn’t look like the VFM 5 though. Still better than the “Manticore.”

bright folio
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So, does this mean we're getting a new british light line, or a different option going off of the Cent 7/1?

solid gate
hollow belfry
solid gate
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Well I may look further at the info on the British light tanks I suggested to them. I strongly feel that the British light line I came up with should be implemented. The Vickers Light 105 could be 1 of the 2 tier Xs.

fringe mountain
#

Lol pls add STA-1Rin anime girl on battle and not only in garage

solid gate
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I hope they look at the Panzer 58. The one I suggested for tier IX in the Swedish medium tank lines I came up with the the production model. The 105mm using one. Not to be confused with the Panzer 58 Mutz. That one is basically the 1st prototype model.

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Swedish ? Isn’t Panzer 58 a Swiss tank ?

bright folio
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Swiss meds > Swedish meds > Czech meds > Italian meds

normal wyvern
#

Is WG just adding the word “super” to the front of old tanks to create new tanks?

fringe mountain
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No

visual jolt
#

@normal wyvern the super conquerer is a legit tank

fringe mountain
#

They r their nicknames

normal wyvern
#

That’s good to hear Dude

solid gate
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Ok whatever, it may be Swiss but let’s just call is Swedish anyway. It’s still not German so the Panzer 58 Mutz shouldn’t exist.

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Besides who’s going to care if it’s Swiss or Swedish when playing the game? And yeah I messed up when reading. The colors of the Swiss and Swedish tanks look similar. Anyway I’m not redoing the dang tech tree I set up. If I even tried I’d have no tier VIII medium at all.

grizzled dock
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Why bother...

solid gate
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Eh we could just have a mixed Swedish-Swiss medium line. Besides it’s the Pan-European nation so the lines are already mixed. Though the first line is the same nation from tiers VI and up.

regal zealot
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I knew it! Brit LTs are coming. Though it’s not what I really expected.
It does seem that they have small profiles, so it could be that the A46 is considered to be part of the new line

solid gate
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Eh they just said a British LT was coming not a whole line of them.

regal zealot
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It is a line of it; what tanks would align with the tank’s style? The Centurions?

solid gate
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At least it’s not the “Manticore” line.

regal zealot
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That’s just a horrid line to pick

solid gate
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If it were a line then that puts risk of the VFM 5 not being there thanks to this stupid Vickers Light 105.

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A46 or FV301 would be the tier 7. Followed by the Scorpion 90 then hopefully the RO2004.

regal zealot
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That tank is made in the 80s, that’s quite a bit too late for the game’s year range

solid gate
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The game doesn’t have a proper year range man. As long as it’s not a smoothbore gun it’ll work.

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I mean Maus was a WW 2 tank yet it goes up against Cold War era tanks. Also VFM 5 and definitely the RO2004 are Cold War era tanks. Now second and third gen MBTs for sure cannot be in any WoT game. I don’t know about first gen because that depends on what tanks were in that generation.

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Wg you really need to stop putting tier 10s as purchasrable vehicles, there are many downsides to this
-Many people who don't understand how the game works will jump in and buy the high tier tanks thinking it will be fun and better
-The knockon effect of that being, it's not fun for the people who have him on their team as the person will drag the team down and it won't be fun for the person who is playing it
-This can (and most of times will) lead to unnecessary toxicity ruining game experience as a whole
-Next this is to do with crate tanks, if you put them as crates, it can lead to a lot of people getting irritated as they might not receive the tank and end up spending large amounts of money and getting frustrated, again, ruining game experience.
I said this here because I don't really know where else to write this

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Besides you cannot have crap like Scimitar at tier 9. Sorry to the idiots who want that but that idea is crap. It won’t work. Nobody wants to play a dinky little 30mm autocannon at that tier when going up against huge gun TDs and heavies. Unless you’re out of your mind that is.

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Wait I wonder how the Panzerkanone 61 and Panzerkanone 68 would fit into Blitz in a TD line. They have 155mm guns.

regal zealot
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No armor but an extremely huge clip irl.
Dunno how that would work

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Wait, was that another tank?

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15 155mm rounds in 45s, clip reload of 2 minutes, which is bonkers

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Don’t want to see this thing here coming to Blitz

wise moth
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With a clip that big, the clip reload wouldn’t matter; the clip itself is large enough to essentiallly destroy the whole team. So it’s functionally a 155 with a 3s reload

solid gate
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Bandkanon 1 c ahh one of the best modern spgs Shame they haven’t been upgraded for years

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It’s scary the fact bandkanon originally was meant to fire nuclear shells

regal zealot
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How many shells can the Bandkanon carry? 30 including the clip?

solid gate
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Bandkanon most likely needs supply trucks it’s reloaded by a crane

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I was talking about the Swiss TDs which were built on the Panzer 61 and Panzer 68 hulls.

regal zealot
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So only 15 shells at a time

solid gate
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These 155mm guns are different from standard AT guns

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I don’t remember if they did have a specific AT ammo but most spgs of that era was using Two piece HE ammo

solid gate
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Be glad Foch 155 didn’t get 3 shells like in PC. That’d have been super super broken for Blitz.

abstract crest
#

Guys should I research the Hetzer or Pz IV D?

solid gate
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IV D

abstract crest
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Thx

solid gate
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YW

abstract crest
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A-20 or SU-85B?

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Nvm, making my own decsion

vague lagoon
#

Is the Chi-Ri pointless now? From a combination of tier 8 upmatching, recent tier 7 buffs, typical power creep of premiums etc.. I just penned on 4 out of 13 hits using plenty of prammo

solid gate
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Chi-Ri isn’t as fun as I remember it was in the past. It could use mobility or armor buff.

solid gate
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It got severely power creeped

hollow belfry
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186 prammo pen is useless against nearly any T8 heavy

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Bad mobility, no armor

solid gate
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Almost want to up-armor a few of the turreted Ikv tank projects I saw a guy post about on some site. Call these mediums. One is the Alt 5 Landsverk design and the other 2 are HĂ€gglund designs.

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Oh and yeah, Chi-Ri could use a penetration buff.

hollow belfry
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155 standard pen
186 prammo

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What's the point of using a Chi-Ri, aside from the grind, when there's a Panther?

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Wich, aside from the autoloader, does everything better

solid gate
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There is none. There is only the fun of bursting someone for 500HP in 3 seconds but that only happens when you manage to flank, which is rather difficult with its mediocre mobility.

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It is very good for clearing low HP tanks quickly

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But the Panther is obviously the superior choice.

solid gate
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Chi-Ri should get the new reload system

quasi mirage
#

technically 186 prammo is about the same as the t43s 194 apcr

dusky wigeon
#

Wow I was playing at15 and I pounced t34’s premium round by angling the hull wow

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Is like maus armor

regal zealot
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DPM machine, but a lot of tanks can pen the cheeks with ease

bright folio
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Good things sometimes come to those with 228mm of frontal armor. However, you don't have much against anything T9.

viral lodge
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AT15 is an anti noob, just like the AT8

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If they know to shoot the cappola the thing may as well be butter

dusky wigeon
#

What about tortoise

bright folio
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The tortoise has less armor, but a much better gun.

regal zealot
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DPM machine, but a lot of tanks at tier IX and X can pen the cheeks with little effort

dusky wigeon
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Tortoise has less armor then at15?

regal zealot
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Tier for tier, yes

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But the armor for the Tortoise is thicker on paper

dusky wigeon
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Last time I failed to pen tortoise with my isu152 lol

regal zealot
bright folio
#

The mantlet isnt a weakspot anymore, and the second cupola/hatch isn't there, but the hatch is bigger, and the general armor profile is simpler.

crystal hare
#

Guys the toaster pz sfl. IVc has 194 mm of ap pen

regal zealot
#

So?

crystal hare
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At tier v

bright folio
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So?

crystal hare
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No tier v has 194 mm of armor oh also 220 alpha

dusky wigeon
#

The French tier 6 heavy has 220mm pen

narrow shadow
#

I find AT15 difficult to deal with frontally in most meds. It's the only really bouncy AT tank after AT2

crystal hare
#

212 but is still broken

regal zealot
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I usually aim for the gun mantlet if the cupola’s hidden @narrow shadow

bright folio
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The profile of the toaster is enormous and lacks more than 15mm of effective armor and the gun has effectively no traverse.

regal zealot
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It it’s flaps could open, like the VFW, it would be entirely different

dusky wigeon
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Why smasher has better pen then the kv2 if smasher’s gun is same length as kv 2’s gun

regal zealot
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It’s firing the KV-2 prammo as standard, and HEAT as premium

dusky wigeon
#

Ok

tulip sail
#

And gun length isn't the only factor in pen

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Velocity is more affected

solid gate
#

Toaster is so fun in realistic battles because ppl don't see the huge hulking mass of destruction speeding right at them until the fast reload has got them dead

crude gorge
#

until everyone starts shooting HE at you

solid gate
#

yeyeye

solid gate
#

never

errant ether
#

How's the tier seven Chinese med ? (tech tree)

regal zealot
#

Some regard it as an OP tank due to the small size, high alpha gun and solid forwardly placed turret

plucky rain
#

Add this for Valentine's day bundle:
Valentine
Valentine 2
Valentine Mk. 9 (IX)
Valentine AT
Angry Connor

regal zealot
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*Valentine Mk. 9 is the original tech tree Valentine

neat nimbus
#

What's your guest how many exp would cost the Japanese TD tier 7 guess

somber rampart
#

About 50$ worth or maybe even 25$

scarlet nest
rapid barn
#

Lmao

surreal haven
#

I think, I just found a bug or idk

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I spot a difference, the wheels are coloured the same as the machine gun on the turret... and the interior is coloured

solid gate
surreal haven
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can u not?

sturdy bane
#

speaking of camo, you know what really grinds my gears

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camo shows up brilliantly on some tanks, like the AMX M4 45 and KV-4, but on tanks like the Maus it's always faded and ugly

solid gate
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i really like the tiger without camo

upper basalt
#

I have question why isn't artilerry in world of Tanks blitz

hollow belfry
#

Maps are too small, battle time too short @upper basalt

upper basalt
#

Ok thanks

solid gate
#

And no one likes artillery except people who play it

restive remnant
#

buff jagdtiger speed. too heavy for the tank.

hushed shadow
#

Hmm right

deep ivy
crude gorge
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Nice

deep ivy
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Well, got a load of tier 10s already but I want the grille

tough dune
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Grille is a dissapointment currently. Stay with the Waffle.

thick trout
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Just don't camp in it

hollow belfry
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Grille could use a camo buff

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a real camo buff, not like what Weegee gave recently

thick trout
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No it needs a traverse buff, we don't want to encourage camping at tier 10 even more

hollow belfry
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Camping? T10?
Ever heard of the ATGMs?

thick trout
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They've helped a lot but people still try and camp way too much and get punished (and obviously blame the ATGMs not themselves)

hollow belfry
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Most of time it's the ATGM tanks that are camping

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"I have a TD alpha so I'm a TD. Let's stay in a corner the whole game"

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Then I end up with 2k spotting damage in a Waffle , and a platoon of Sheridans in a corner

thick trout
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Yeah that's just wrong isn't it, look at any tier 10 game and 90% of the time the ATGMs are the most agressive tanks, the other 10% are people who camp in every tank

hollow belfry
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I raremy see agressive ATGMs.
As for every tank, there are good and bad players. There are redline campers and agressive players. Everyone knows that there is a lot more bad players than good ones

crude gorge
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the camping heavies

thick trout
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The ATGMs encourage people to be agressive, I'm guessing you don't rarely see agressive ATGMs you just remember the bad ones because you are biased. You can't get shots in from across the map because of the shell velocity, you have to be aggressive

bright folio
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I don't see many atgm tanks sitting in the back. That said, most aren't particularly aggressive either, and the ones that are use the APCR.

tough dune
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Atgms encourages both camping and aggressiveness. They can shoot you over hill or cover. If you rush them, Tds/heavies behind will cripple you or send you back to garage.

dusky wigeon
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American tanks are bad

wise moth
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@thick trout ATGMs force people to play passive. Aggressive play relies on being able to move up and take aggressive hulldown positions. But those positions are all nullified by the fact that ATGMs can hit you even in said hulldown, making them pointless, and effectively making proper aggressive play impossible

solid gate
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dude when i saw 'ATGMs encourage people to be aggressive' i was laughing my arse off. Most trading places on maps usually are spots on the map where Sheridans can get easy shots in, so basically heavies or those that are front lining are afraid and sit behind cover more, basic. @thick trout r u saying that aggresive gameplay (which actually is basically players trying to finish before they lost free hp because of a sheridan, without any trade whatsoever) is better than the gameplay that was before? Nah no ty i don't like this

thick trout
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ATGMs force the one person the tank is looking at to not be constantly exposing in hulldown positions. The hulldown tank might take 560 damage possibly every 15 sec or so, that is if the ATGM player hits and does damage. I've seen (and done the same myself) unicums do much less damage than they should do because they were trying to hit a tank behind cover way too much. ATGMs give people a way to counter a tank in an unbeatable position, otherwise they would have to have been passive and just wait for someone to expose. Look at any tier 10 game now and you will see that they are much faster paced, especially in ratings. That isn't passive play at all

echo drift
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Missiles are broken. Stop arguing against it

solid gate
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Oh boi a argument bout to start

thick trout
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@solid gate Yes I think this meta is much better than the one we had before. Now I can actually move without constantly having to worry about the 3 heavies and 3 TDs at the red spawn. Now the games are actually interesting and require skill to do well in rather than just camping.

@echo drift All they need is the turning radius to be nerfed a bit to make it harder for them to pull off the shots that only unicums can do

echo drift
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Btw i heard people saying that the standard b now moves slower than pre nerf... but WG only nerfed the accuracy.. i thought hidden nerfs is a tin foil hat kinda thing....

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So easy to do crazy missile shots: aim up right click then move reticle on the red tank (you dont even have to see it) and fire = damage

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At least thats how it do it. It also works on mobile no worries 🙂

thick trout
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You need the red tank to be completely oblivious and to not move or wiggle at all let alone get to cover which barely ever happens now that games are faster paced. That is also just for PC, for mobile you don't have the ability to lock the gun up and aiming to actually hit what you are aiming at in 3rd person isn't as reliable as in sniper mode at all, and we all know how good the playerbase is at aiming

solid gate
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i dunno what is wrong with NA players but i am definitely sure it ain’t like that, camping isn’t happening that much anymore unless the player is actually very bad and doesn’t know what he is doing, if u consider using a position optimal for a tank camping, then u are wrong.

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the problem now is that if a team does not have a Sheridan, they are at a disadvantage, get it? One tank makes a massive difference, such stuff should have never happened and we were far better off with the meta that was before, with the meds making a comeback and rushing the gameplay with their high dpm and ability to peek and chip off HP from the heavies that were camping and not staying in their optimal position.

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@thick trout idk if the fact that you can’t stay too much in the position that was before optimal, means that you need more skill to thrive

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it is simple, the team with the sheridan is most likely going to win. This completely kills the flexibility of choosing a tank you like, knowing that u r going to get beat to death by a scummy sheridan player sitting behind the ridge

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for example i was doing super good lately with the leopard, rushing frontline and getting 1-2 quick shots in the repositioning, those 2 shots for info and for the HP advantage will no longer be happening, and the 1v1 i was supposed to have with the other player won’t be happening because of how low or hidden the sheridan is going to be, dunking shots into me and laughing at my face

thick trout
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The sheridan really doesn't have that much of an impact on games, that's why it still has a 50% WR despite being a new tank that is mostly played by unicums. It has changed the game and people haven't adapted to it yet. People still assume that they are invulnerable in the middle of a field. Learn to spot when the reds have a good Sheridan player and then don't take positions in open ground and suddenly it won't seem anywhere near as broken

solid gate
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tank with most gun depression on game !!!!

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False, the tank and mechanic are simply new to the game and people not only will ‘adapt’ to playing against it ( actually struggle to adapt since it is basically impossible, since there are some tanks that are good at being playing in a small amount of positions, that amount now being even smaller, close to none, cause of the sheridan), but they will also learn how to use them properly which will completely kill the game. I have seen a 54% player from EU spamming the sheridan lately, for example he was getting shots in extremely easily on Dynasty’s Pearl (C) without even moving a cm from his original position

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and yes my game is on portuguese im from Portugal but that doenst matter.What matters is that this tank has 20° of gun depression can someone explain it :O

thick trout
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Good players adapt to change much faster than the playerbase. Good players have already basically hit the peak of what is possible, all that is going to happen now is the playerbase will learn and catch up so the 50% is just going to go down

solid gate
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@thick trout you don’t have to be good to learn how to play the Sheridan well. I assume u aren’t doing too well in it so you think no one will be able to either? From my 30 games in the last 5 days on multiple accs, i averaged 3600 dmg by peeking st the start of the game and getting 2-3 atgm shots off, then continue doing my thing

wise moth
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@solid gate the best gun depression in the game used to be on the R. Otsu at tier 1 with 22 degrees before it was completely removed from the game

crystal hare
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@solid gate the kv2 makes that difference if in the hands of a decent player, the Sheridan just takes less skill for that edge which isn’t that bad tbh

solid gate
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Personally i am very annoyed when a Sheridan negates all my positions basically rendering me useless for a massive part of the match. I dunno how u feel about that. I guess that makes me bad?

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@wise moth still on game this one XD just breack some people head one a game got my self in the most weird position with help and was only showing gun the guys spammed me hacker because I was using all my 20° of gun depression that almost no one knows about

crystal hare
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But the height of the tank almost negates that @solid gate

wise moth
thick trout
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@solid gate I'm doing very well in it actually, my initial 75% WR is going down like I expected but it's just above my average tier 10 WR now. If you think that the average player will learn to play the Sheridan well then you need to look at the playerbase again. A sheridan will not negate all of your positions unless you are against a unicum who is completely tunneling you in which case you have taken him out of the battle as well.

solid gate
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very well as in 2800 avg +?

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I don’t need to look at the playerbase again when i now see camping players with 50% or less that actually hit half their shots, and that damage total is much much higher than what they averaged before these things, for example a 46% player with less than 2000 avg on t10s hit 2500+ on a sheridan? I mean 2500 is still pretty meh, but it is a lot for that kind of player

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@wise moth that is what annoys me most, do you need 50%+ to hit such basic shots? I bet that the guy didnt actually aim for a weakspot, just dragged his mouse down to get the shot in

wise moth
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Or take this realistic battle I played yesterday. WTH am I supposed to do? I have 2 options; go over the rails and get killed by both the Maus and Sheridan, or stay where I am and hope to dear god the Sheridan bounces his missiles

solid gate
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do what i did, delete the game and give it a rest for a while

wise moth
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@solid gate That was like the first game I played in over a week

solid gate
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anddd it happens this often, such situations. Such BS man, wish they remove it sooner

wise moth
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Anyone who knows me knows that I am an extremely aggressive minded player, both in pubs and comps. Fact of the matter is that missiles have effectively destroyed my play style, and as such the game is no longer fun

hushed shadow
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What about a bit to the left so you are behind the train? Looks like there aren’t any reds over there, and the Maus wouldn’t get shots at you so easily if you get the train to be ‘in between’ you and him, and the Sheridan might not have a proper view on you with the train in between, so he’d have to pop out more to get the shots off, which might allow you to get a shot back. Maybe I’m missing something else that could also happen in this

wise moth
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@hushed shadow If I go to the left, the Sheridan shifts to my right, and he can still hit me

thick trout
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@solid gate 2700 I think, and looking at one below average player who had a good battle doesn't tell you anything at all.

@wise moth My WiFi isn't loading your gif but from what I can see you are right out in the middle of a field in the first one and in the second one you have been flanked by a maus so you had plenty of time to find a different position. In the second one I'm sure someone like you would be able to sidegug the maus and out dpm the Sheridan. Either that or hug the ridge and use the angle to bounce as much as you can. It's still a 1v2 so you shouldn't expect to be able to take them out easily

hushed shadow
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But wouldn’t that make him have to expose a bit of himself so he can get the missile off at you, letting you get shots at him and also so he won’t aim on the train and mess up the missile? I guess the team would be able to get shots on the Maus if he decides to make a push on you there, if they pay attention

solid gate
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Same for me actually, i am a super aggressive player that likes to meet enemies off guard and my playstyle is now gone. @hushed shadow So you are basically telling him ways of hiding from a tank and not be useful at all. Never expected 2020 to be the year where you had to find positions to hide. @thick trout not 1 player, actually quite a high number of them lately ranging from 47 to 55%

wise moth
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@thick trout In the first one I’m literally in the process of driving to my position at the start of the game. The only way to not get hit there is to not go for such an aggressive position and camp in the back lines instead, proving my point.

In the second one, if I go up and over, I take at least one from the Maus, and one from the Sheridan, leaving me at below half HP, and the Sheridan will easily kill me before I kill him since the DPM difference is only 100