Kpz is newer than the leopard 1 Mk6 is the youngest tank in the game built in 1979
#vehicles-discussion
solid gate
frigid compass
oh wait tech tree
fading ginkgo
I think the most modern tank in blitz is the IS-3 Defender and T-28 Defender
solid gate
Stb1 came sort of after leopard 1
bright folio
The KPFpz should not become the top of t9. Compared to the other 3 premium T9s, it's more popular than the others combined.
solid gate
Sheridan aswell and Patton with the 105 on it
frigid compass
why does the Chieftain Mk6 Prammo APDS have LESS pen than a Jagdtiger/Maus gun
fading ginkgo
@bright folioThats because Kpfpz 70 is handsome
frigid compass
it just makes no sense for a gen 2 mbt
solid gate
I said tier 10 tech tree tank bois geez. And the leo 1 was much more successful than the stb-1.
fading ginkgo
Same like Chieftain/T95 Heritage. People love it cuz he's handsome
frigid compass
STB-1 is a prototype
solid gate
@solid gate that’s because stb 1 is a prototype
fading ginkgo
@solid gate STB-1 is a trash tank(my grandpa says it)
solid gate
well duh
I mean you can’t say a tank that has seen service in multiple countries is more successful than a literal prototype that’s a literal no brainer
Um yes u can
There is a reason stb-1 only remained a prototype
prime vale
@fading ginkgo it's for a convoy spot light at night
frigid compass
Hmms in Type 74 @solid gate
solid gate
No look up the Type 74
fading ginkgo
@prime vale oh thx
solid gate
Is type 74 in the game
prime vale
Technically yes and no @solid gate
fading ginkgo
I wonder if they added T-14 Armata to Blitz
frigid compass
you said "there's a reason STB-1 remained a prototype" which is false
tulip sail
I highly doubt they would
solid gate
And if you want to go in that area amx 30 B also came slightly after the leopard 1
prime vale
What we need is a cheiftain tech tree
fading ginkgo
Nein
solid gate
M48 Patton itself with the M68 gun is also a modernization that happened well beyond the leopard 1s introduction
frigid compass
what we need is for wg to add toyota trucks with missiles on them
solid gate
O yes I forgot m48 patton
fading ginkgo
@frigid compass no we need WG add Katyusha Missile trucks
prime vale
That would be too op tho @frigid compass the armor would surely bounce everything
solid gate
actually that would mean m60 is the most modern in game tank or chieftan idk
frigid compass
@fading ginkgo those are rockets
solid gate
Still not really mk6 is The most modern
prime vale
What about the mk6 @solid gate
solid gate
Boi read the edit
fading ginkgo
@frigid compass what will happen if they add Artys to Blitz?
frigid compass
@prime vale it would be more op than the smasher
prime vale
Fr
frigid compass
@fading ginkgo high tier mines is a big rip then
and Castilla would become more of a campzone
fading ginkgo
@frigid compass yep, with 210MM Morser gun of G.W E100 that's gonna broke the game
solid gate
yo what the heck kpfpz is faster than leo 1 irl 😂😂😂😂
How did you barely find this out....
frigid compass
we TALKED about it
solid gate
I don't live on a tank game. I DIDN'T JUST FIND OUT I WAS RESTATING IT
This chat is another level of toxic
You don’t need to “live on a tank game” just to know the kpzs actual stats and btw if you think this is toxic you don’t want to be in here when it actually is toxic
Then don't shame me for not knowing some in game trash tank's irl stats
Who said we were shaming you
Are you serious
To be fair that comment was on my par fault while I do agree that info does get tossed around here all the time I shouldn’t expect everyone to know that
Again, sorry I'm not constantly active in this chat either
tulip sail
If you think this is toxic you should see NA
solid gate
Do I have to repeat myself constantly. I said a whole new level of toxic not that it was insanely toxic but I'm not usually familiar with people roasting people with modern day tank knowledge.
Anyways it doesn't matter lol
bright folio
This is the internet. People will shame each other for any possible reason.
solid gate
Petition to make kpf have 27 p/w ratio
Could u imagine this tank going 68 kph with a 152mm gun that can shoot missiles
bright folio
We have that. It's called the T92E1 and it's a pain in the ass of everything from tiers 8-10.
solid gate
Lmao
carmine pulsar
Can we throw him out or too early?
bright folio
This is one of those ideas that the poster doesn't realize that they wouldn't be the only person to get the tank.
solid gate
Well for starters he meant the Ingame NA server that was on you @solid gate
What. Do you not understand english
How did u get that out of what I said
solid gate
@bright folio hey me too
bright folio
Tier for tier, the T92E1 is a bigger pain.
viral lodge
In my E50 or Conway I’d rather fight a Sheridan than a T92E1 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip sail
@solid gate my comment was in reference to how numerous people on the NA server are constantly finding new ways to be toxic or start something
carmine pulsar
It’s like a premium Emil
tulip sail
But faster
inland osprey
And a smaller gun
crude gorge
well d max's gun is like the emil stock gun
hollow belfry
Yes, it's the same gun. Pretty good gun depression too
carmine pulsar
It’s not helpless like the Emil
You’ll be alright staying behind a bush dealing 310 alpha damage
wanton spear
Can't wait for the ATGMs nerf in 6.8
hushed shadow
Not so likely to get nerfed 1 update in, unless WG thinks it is that necessary to nerf it
deep ivy
Wg has said it has outperformed expectations so they are looking rn and probably going to make changes to them just prior of 8.8 @hushed shadow
hushed shadow
They did do some changes. Apparently the ‘fuel’ was reduced by a noticeable amount for missiles
solid gate
This means no more artillery-like shots
wanton spear
There is and a lot
dusty shoal
elfin orbit
Looks like the type t34 isn't popular
unborn slate
The t92e1 is toxic for the game
solid gate
Tiger II in particular isn’t fun to play. You get shot at with prammo a lot and then of up against tier 9s there is at least 1 T92E1 on enemy team. I’m going back to tier V for sure. Might do tier 6 as the highest but that’s hard when you see SU-152s and KV-2s. But at least they have bad accuracy. Tier 7 is not to be played with mediums due to the heavy buffs. Especially mediums like Comet and T20. Even tier 7 isn’t that fun anymore. Low tiers look more appealing now.
deep ivy
@solid gate u are right with the T92E1 part. The bugs where loved at first but they are just anoying. Training tier 8 is hard right now. But one thing you forget. The front plate of Tiger II is pennable with the right gun. It has nearly the same armor thickness as T28 Defender. Earlier today I was playing Ferdinand with the top gun. I turn the corner to see a T28 Defender wiggeling his turret and hull like a pro. All I saw was grey(ish) plating ready for penn. Tiger II is the same. Some tier 8 tanks have great penn on top guns making bouncing hard if not impossible for you. Tier 7 is still playable though. Worst that could happen is getting uptiered against defenders. You forget only the frontal armor has been improved. Turret armor and side armor has been left alone. Flanking and hatchshots are still possible. The buffs are just there to turn all those low tier noobs into capable players. Only tanks like jagdpanther are now broken as f...
Mostly because now you can bounce the shells of a T49 with top gun
solid gate
@deep ivy Well I wouldn’t play T20 or Comet with those buffed TDs and heavies about. They aren’t exactly fast enough to flank. Comet I guess can brawl other mediums with it’s dpm but T20 sadly cannot do jack. Also poor Chi-Ri is a no go. Big, slow, no armor, and I think 155mm of pen isn’t going to cut it against the heavies.
I’mma play tier V even though it will suck against tier VI tanks. But VIs usually suck against tier VII and so on. I get tired of being uptiered more often than just facing same tier tanks.
crude gorge
imma just take a break from tier 8+
let’s just hang out at tier 6 and tier 7
if you wanted to avoid the missiles crisis
solid gate
Well the only tier VIIs I have left to grind are T20, Chi-Ri, and T-31-1. Buy I don’t want to play them right now.
solid gate
I like it’s gun (though the pen needs to be upped unless they buff the rest of the tank) but the rest of the tank sucks.
crude gorge
sure gun is pretty unique but it would be better if it has more pen or so
deep ivy
I haven't taken my Chi-Ri out since before the new year. It is so outgunned vs pretty much anything and with the HE sensitive armor...
solid gate
I don’t like prammo. It’s too expensive and I cannot get it to hit any better than standard ammo. Which if it bounces that means you just wasted a lot more credits than even standard ammo wastes.
They should make Chi-Ri almost a heavy on armor. Like a heavy medium. It’s mobility already feels like that of a heavy medium so the armor should support that.
deep ivy
I only load prammo if I'm sure it will make a difference
solid gate
On mobile it’s hard to switch to the right ammo on the fly though. Even if you have the ammo bar set to stay open after you hit it only once.
deep ivy
When I load prammo I take more time for my shot. I plat on mobile and can switch to prammo in a second or less
But in all honesty: some tanks could be buffed rn
solid gate
They are going to have to do a lot of buffs and I wish they’d balance the mm when it comes to what tiers you face. Too often am I up against at least 2 higher tiers and they seem to have the better of the 2 higher tier players. Point is when uptiered some of us lose more often than we win. It’s not fun.
red grotto
Anyone found CDC useless this meta?
glossy marsh
only found it easy to wreck
also jesus christ i picked up m4/fl10 after the armor buff expecting it to suck more but that thing still butchers
gets a lot of trouble from tier higher still
red grotto
with T49/T92 meta it's so easy to die in it, priority target for those tanks
haven't got m4/fl10 so can't say
brave glen
T49 is trash anyway, just keep your distance and farm them
You should be more worried about other tanks with accurate guns
red grotto
trust me or not, have been random shotted a lot of times from these
brave glen
I know, I have a t49 myself. It gets some bs shots from time to time. If you see it looking at you just don't peek
red grotto
gotta be more careful, but still cdc is a hard ride to drive rn
glossy marsh
Still can't decide if i want the 121b
deep ivy
CDC is still a capable tank rn. A mix between a scout and a puncher. Mostly good for trolling. Rn with those bugs ruining tier 8 it could use some cover because its not safe anywhere
red grotto
@glossy marsh , did you play T-62A?
glossy marsh
Yeah, and i love it
Not my account though, farming for t54 rn
@red grotto are you saying that they play similarly enough to stick to the t62a? 121b seems to have worse gun handling, are there situations that it fares much better? Hulldown?
thorn delta
Just got the raisenai on the 15th game of the t92e1🎉🎉 such a fun tank, might be a bit too strong imo
deep ivy
@glossy marsh the 121B is stronger when it has the time to aim, so hulldown. With callibrated it is a nightmare to kill. One of the better trolturrets in game. Callibrated shells mostly to counter german heavies. Its shell penn could use a buff since its prammo is heat and cant penn the lfp of an angled E100
And heat is useless vs the E100 weakspot behind the tracks
white rapids
glossy marsh
Sounds a bit like role of stb1 to me
solid gate
Is the type 59 worth getting
solid gate
in one match, the type 59 ate half of my health when i was in a lowe
I loved it at one time.
Seems pretty good to me now that I got it
Ding camo looks good
solid gate
Gets a lot of bounces
hollow belfry
Another Jagdtiger ammoracked today. Just aim with HEAT next to the gun
Detonated from the front
hard lagoon
lol
hollow belfry
Try it, I got tons of ammoracks on those using that trick xD
bright folio
I liked the JT. That was a weakness against bigger guns, however.
ancient vigil
Anyone here play the Panther II?
livid yacht
Sell it
ancient vigil
Not until I get good average damage for it to flex.
Its a ok tank, could use a speed buff and then it will be competitive.
narrow shadow
Before the Panther 1 buff I thought it should get either the 8.8 L/100 from E50 with good DPM, say 2400-2500 , or big increase to it's 8.8 DPM to 2500-2600 to make it competetive and be like Panther 1, with great gun for the tier. But now Panther 1 fits into the E50 theme with strong armour, so maybe armour buff to make it fit in the strong frontal plate theme? Idk. But it definitely needs some loving
tulip sail
That's probably one of the better ideas I've heard for buffing it
sharp tapir
What is better T110E3 or T110E4?
latent kelp
Depends honestly on ones playstyle
solid gate
Dad gum T-150 needs accuracy buff.
solid gate
I think the Kuro Mori Mine should have the original voice over like the Pz IV Ankou
solid gate
Also are we ever going to see Japanese heavies such as the O-I in WoTB?
random meadow
T62A or Obj. 140?
tulip sail
@solid gate no there too large and would be terrible for the game
carmine pulsar
Besides wargaming will make us pay 100$ to use em
solid gate
Buff M48
solid gate
T-150 has ridiculous reload but worse is the accuracy.
hollow moth
Honestly, who still playing with T-150?
tulip sail
Occasionally I do
valid lodge
T-150 vs Tankenstien
tulip sail
I'd pick T-150
zealous anchor
T150 good armour tennnkkkk I use for tourney
kindred egret
did maus get any buffs ?
zealous anchor
nu
kindred egret
man it can really a pak44/2 L/61 upgrade
neat nimbus
is any worth the is 5?
bright folio
The IS-5 is not a great premium tank, but it's worth 1500 gold.
misty wing
Who else thinks the 121 should have a 130mm gun
tulip sail
Why should it?
misty wing
Idk the last 3 tanks of the line all have 122mm guns so it would feel like more of an upgrade
tulip sail
That doesn't really seem like that's enough for wg since that's more work with little pay off (personally I'd say why not )
misty wing
Personally I think they should give it the WZ-111 5A's gun, with an 8.4 second reload or so, and 460 alpha. DPM would drop by a bit but the extra alpha and slightly better pen would make up for it
And then the WZ-120 could get 420 alpha (don't nerf the reload, it's underpowered anyway)
rigid thunder
The 121 is already good where it is, no need for changes
misty wing
One could argue that it's too good
quasi mirage
@solid gate the 1st clip doesnt show any aim time whatsoever
solar hornet
carmine pulsar
Crates. Oh no the crates will get worse
cold void
I want a VK 100.01P Defender
jade agate
@solid gate omg epic camper noob
solid gate
Lol
hollow moth
@jade agate TDs are supposed to camp🤦♂️
hollow moth
Snipe=camp🤦♂️
hollow moth
It's right
bright folio
Sniping =/= Camping
jade agate
Thx @bright folio
camp is to stay in the same place
sniper is to shoot long distance
@hollow moth
hollow moth
Yes, and if you have a good position for sniping, you will stay and "camp" or go to other position even if it's worse?
jade agate
Yep of course but you are cancer
hollow moth
So you called me cancer
jade agate
🤔 👍
bright folio
Hmmm
dusky stone
🤔
fleet berryBOT
LuLu#0100 was muted
pulsar sinew
English por favor
bright folio
quietly observes
hollow moth
Good game
slow valley
VK 168.01 is not hideous 😤 @bright folio
bright folio
Hmmm
slow valley
I prefer the term to describe the VK 168.01 as "Disagreeable".
hollow moth
I prefer the term to describe the VK 168.01 as "Drunk stock Mäuschen".
rigid thunder
Did you mean "Dumpster fire" ?
hollow moth
No, I mean "Drunk stock Mäuschen"
Cuz it's literraly a stock Mäuschen, with some worse stats and the hull is turned
rigid thunder
and it's a dumpster fire
deep ivy
@hollow moth VK168 is a fine tank. One of the better premium tier 8s. Outguns Lowe
All you need to do is time your shots well and work with the 15 sec reload
rigid thunder
no it's garbage, the lowe is miles ahead
the lowe has a great gun, a better turret, better mobility. it's so much more flexible, and the gun allows you to output damage consistently
the 168's gun has terrible accuracy and dpm, so when you miss a shot it really hurts
deep ivy
But when you hit the shot the enemy hurts
rigid thunder
2 shots from a lowe will hurt way more than 1 from a 168
pulsar flax
Guys is jag e100 good tank
solid gate
VK 168 is not a good tank. Long reload and crappy armor all over the place. Armor looks good on paper but it’s not near as good as it says. Too many weak points.
crude gorge
I prefer to called the vk 168 as something you would find in the sewer, it is like a mutated looking mauschen or something
and despite looking like these German super heavies, it can be penned quite easily
bright folio
I prefer to call the Mauerbrecher the "Failed German Tog."
Also, whether or not it is good(it isn't) is irrelevant to my nickname. It looks terrible, and that's what I care about.
dapper panther
@zinc shadow
[...] "including the fact that you can have 374 heat pen on a tier 9 light" [...]
that happens only when the penetration boost occurs, otherwise the pen cannot go higher than 357mm
rigid thunder
that happens when you run cs
dapper panther
yeah, and heavies can go to increased armor thiccness
livid yacht
Which is useless
dapper panther
lets take a sidescraping VK72 as an example (assuming the lfp is hidden), angling it you can expose only a few area that are pennable by ATGM:
bright folio
Also, the lights get +10% to their atgm penetration. The heavies get +4% increase to a hidden value that we don't really know much about in the first place.
@dapper panther The ATGM tanks have 2 options to get around the small areas. 1: Use their mobility and get to a more advantageous position. 2: Fire the ATGMs and curve the shots to hit the sides.
dapper panther
"the lights get +10% to their atgm penetration"
that is 374mm at max
on my pic only the highlighted area are below 374mm
livid yacht
The lower plate is an easy pen with 374mm
dapper panther
which is why I assumed it to be hidden in my example
livid yacht
And the other thing is why would you fight a VK frontally with a light ?
dapper panther
its all just a theorical example, normally you'd flank, which in fact doesnt even require atgms
solid gate
Why did we get a VK 90 (possibly/probably made up) instead of VK 75?
dapper panther
whalebait, i guess
solid gate
I don’t see why it had to be 90 instead of 75. Which if that one guy is right then the 75 weighs less.
dapper panther
according to the description, it was totally made up by WG, based on the RL ideas of rear mounted turretted tanks
Historical Reference
Esteemed professionals argue that the VK 90.01 (P) project is one of the suggestions for the development of heavy tanks with its rear turret placement and that it was never built and definitely never mass-produced. In fact, the VK 90.01 (P) was created in the Holiday Shop by Chris Dev, inventor extraordinaire and holiday enthusiast.
it seems total nonsense to me, after seeing some pics about the VK 75.01 (K)
hollow vale
@everyone can someone help me.!? Is 121B good tank?? I dont know how to decide
dapper panther
it's a type59 on steroids.
go check for yourself on https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/
@winter falcon
"which tank is the t150 not to be found"
it's a tier6 russian heavy.
used to be in tech tree, but got removed from it in update 5.5
ever since, it's a collector tank
solid gate
What is the best play style for a jpanther?
hollow vale
@dapper panther thx man
dapper panther
you're welcome, it used to be the first tank in the IS-4 line
zinc shadow
@dapper panther callibrated shells
mystic mountain
@solid gate hide and shoot at weak spots or use your gun depression over hills hiding your lower plate.
tulip sail
I'm not sure what about it but I absolutely love the m4a1 rev even though it should be terrible with the upteired matches fighting 152mm spam and rockets but it still gets me 2.5k-3.0k dmg battles lately
tardy talon
350 alpha? 10 degrees of gp?
jovial scaffold
My question is, T-62 or Obj. 140?
visual jolt
@jovial scaffold They serve different purposes. The 140 is more of a brawler and the 62a is better at holding positions. Over all I would say the 62a is better though. It has a better turret, better gun depression, and better gun handling than the 140
The 62a is actually kind of OP right now IMO
narrow shadow
I don't think T62A is OP, cuz there are other absurd meds, like STB and T22
visual jolt
The STB is very good but it’s not 62a good. The 62a has way better gun stats and a much better turret
I can’t argue about the t22 though
narrow shadow
Hold up wtf T62 much better turret ? U are confusing the two arent you ? STB has weaker small weakspots, but T62 is an ez pen once you load pramo.. meanwhile pramo does nothing vs STB
spiral moth
Keyword: sometimes
visual jolt
To my knowledge I haven’t ever been able to pen 62a cheeks
It has a small cupola but that’s it
spiral moth
I couldn't have any problems penning the cheeks with tanks like the 268/Jageroo
But I feel the combination of better gun depression allows the STB turret to be much more effective
visual jolt
@spiral moth I agree that the gun depression makes the turret very effective
spiral moth
Because it's going to be very difficult hitting those weaker sections when the person is peak-a-booming behind a ridge
narrow shadow
@visual jolt Did you just bring WG stat chart to prove T62 has stronger turret than STB ? Dude cmon. Like I said, STB has small weak turret cheeks and cupola which is invisible when using gun depression. Meanwhile half of T62's truret will get penned when you load pramo, cuz it's not got a good angle on those 240mm cheeks. Meanwhile pramo won't do nothing vs STB, thus STB has much more effective turret.
visual jolt
@narrow shadow I’ve found I can pen STB cheeks with most prammo, although they are small
And the fact that is has almost 100mm more ought to say something
tulip sail
@tardy talon idk Ig it's just a good combo of both but I played it rebuff I still loved it then
spiral moth
@narrow shadow all around the T-62a turret is better than a STBs, no competition but the STB can be more effective when gun depression is taken into account
narrow shadow
The thing is, you don't have to aim to pen T62 turret, all u have to do is load pramo and the turret is suddenly very pennable next to the gun. STB has much smaller pennable area, thus it's better. Yes, with AP u can pen sTB and not T62, but who cares about that rly
spiral moth
The fact of the matter is that the STB can be penned easily with AP(or Standard ammo) when properly aimed and the T-62 can't unless you are in a TD
narrow shadow
Easily ? Lol. It's almost unhittable in real battle
narrow shadow
That is what I've been telling u all along, u load pramo and T62 becomes quite easy to pen without even aiming hard
Look at how large the area with 300mm eff is, meanwhile heat 374 ez
spiral moth
I could do the same loading gold against a STB, your point?
narrow shadow
But gold wont change anything over ap
spiral moth
My point stands
narrow shadow
Nope
spiral moth
Like I said I could just snap a shot into it's turret like you could using gold
You can't argue that the STB has a better turret, but you can argue that it's more effective
narrow shadow
Better turret means that it is more effective lol
Yeah you could snap STB turret but it won't work 99% of the cases unlike just shooting gold at the T62
spiral moth
That's in theory, in practice it's much harder than u think
narrow shadow
I didn't have much difficulty pushing T62s away from hulldown positions with pramo, but I sure as hell did have problems with STBs. They are just so much stronger in such positions
solid gate
Stbs are pretty strong at hull down
spiral moth
Indeed, but a T-62A turret is much better for general brawling
narrow shadow
I don't follow ?
spiral moth
Your going to argue the same point till your grave so there's no point in continuing our conversation
hollow moth
Add a reverse autoloader railgun that shots 200mm HESH missiles on smasher, smasher is the worst tier 2 of the game and it deserves a little buff
tardy talon
@tulip sail the questions were rhetorical lol, both the alpha and gun depression are insanely good for a tier 8 med
tulip sail
lol i guess im more tired than i expected
tardy talon
haha you can never know on discord, it's a great tank
tulip sail
though i did know those were close to the top lol usally im good at figuring it
solid gate
I just researched the E75 should I get the turret or the engine first?
tardy talon
@tulip sail only chinese meds have more alpha, but they also have 2/3 the dpm and half the gun depression
solid gate
@spiral moth wait r u actually saying u r penning stb1 turret easily with ap? such bs 🙂 T62a has a better turret against AP, but worse against prammo, but since most people load prammo against these turrets, you can easily say the STB-1 has a better turret overall. Add 10 degrees to the recipe and even that cupola gets hidden behind the mantlet 🙂 @narrow shadow are you easily penning stb1s with AP?
narrow shadow
@solid gate I never said that, I was the one saying STB has better turret. I merely said that STB turret is pennable in small weakspots with AP unlike T62, but those weakspots don't change vs pramo while T62 becomes quite easy to pen with the pramo, thus STB has better turret
spiral moth
I'm done arguing the point, could you please not ping me
solid gate
@narrow shadow i know, just confirming it 😉 We all saw this, all of us expected the 62a to be the best t10 medium, but it still doesn't seem to match the stb-1 and the t22.
well i guess the guy has no point 🙂
spiral moth
I'm busy doing something else and don't have time to argue at the current moment
jovial scaffold
T-54 actually has hull armor although.
misty wing
@hollow moth yeah smasher is weak, maybe a 70 kph buff and 183mm gun with 0.2 dispersion would help it out a bit
hollow moth
It would still the worst tier 2
Add a reverse auto reloader gun (as like IS-3 D in WOT), but as like a rail gun that shots 200mm HESH missiles
The speed buff is cool too
What about 75km/h buff? @misty wing
And btw, that armor is too low, needs 475mm armor angled in 60 degrees for hear, front and side
misty wing
They also need to decrease the tier to tier 1 so that you don't face as many good players, and the missiles need to be homing ones that automatically hit the enemy without you needing to guide them manually @hollow moth
next solstice
Calibrated Shells or Gun Rammer for E100
hollow moth
@next solstice the penetration on E100 is already good, I would choose Gun Rammer
next solstice
eh, i feel that 258 isn't "enough"
sure it's sufficient on alot of targets but there are times where I view that extra pen as really handy
solid gate
@next solstice HEAT, also i'd use CS on the E100 cause of the very nice HE pen
next solstice
tfw I swore myself not to use gold
but yeah, I think that the CS is enough since the E100 was never a dpm machine anyways so might as well make the shots count
solid gate
@next solstice don't consider yourself a good player, or at least, don't expect to become one if u aren't planning to use gold ammo, it is absolutely essential, rather hit a tank with less dmg than bounce and be on a long reload with 0 dmg done
next solstice
Penetration issues are the least of my worries
solid gate
what do you mean
topaz plaza
@next solstice that's what she said...
next solstice
well [REDACTED]
solid gate
lmao he got him real good 😂
zinc marlin
I introduce the most useless tank ever. It either needs to be buffed or gotten rid of
solid gate
@zinc marlin that place is held by the E4, the Grille is fun and a decent-good tank
livid yacht
I'd choose the VK 72 instead of the E4
verbal crag
I would say that the Grille is ballanced as it is with gun numbers and mobility, but, there is an obvious problem with available gun depression. Over the front, ther is a visible gap between the recoil ramp and the hull roof, which goes to show that wargaming are actaually restricting its capabilities. Making it less versatile.
They buffed the T62a depression, why not give the Grille some too spare?
I introduce the most useless tank ever. It either needs to be buffed or gotten rid of
@zinc marlin (An extention too your previous point with the grille is above.)
deep ivy
Most useless tank ever? If u ask me I know a couple more. Predator being a good example. No top speed, no armor and needs 10 seconds to reload a 3 shell magazine. Shells do 150 damage a shot with 1.5 seconds in between. Not good
Oh. Dont forget the total lack of gun depression. Everyone wants to facehug you because you cannot hit anything. Tall boy not capable of deffending itself. Cant go hulldown nor use hills
The Predator is not a good example of what the Warhammer 40000 tanks would be in real life. They should be massive, heretic crushing beasts
deep ivy
Btw: if u research the top gun on M103, does the T110E5 get cheaper to research?
frigid compass
no
dapper panther
@deep ivy
Pz2j
Tier3 light with tier1 autoloader
dapper panther
48mm avg pen, 7 alpha
frigid compass
the armor gets negated when you have worse power to weight ration than a Maus and terrible pen
frigid compass
looks weird
that camo looks good on the Pz B2 though because the rivets match up with the armor plates quite nicely
elfin orbit
Maus type tanks look pretty good
magic ledge
12.8 or 15cm for the Borsig?
dapper panther
12.8cm more reliable, 15cm bigger alpha
Choose your preferance
dapper panther
Imo, that camo suits the vk168 Mäuschen the best
magic ledge
still in St emil tho, just asking
dapper panther
frigid compass
huh
dapper panther
It looks cool on the sides
dapper panther
The what?
carmine pulsar
Isn’t there like bolts used?
dapper panther
Ah...
Well, pzb2 has riveting in its original texture, without any camo even
That's why it fits so well 😂
frigid compass
well the camo fits the tank quite well
dapper panther
Yup
frigid compass
as it doesnt look out of place
dapper panther
Camo on
frigid compass
i looked at it myself
dapper panther
Camo off
frigid compass
the camo on the tanks you showed kinda just looks too blue and out of place imo
it looks cool on some of the parts and god why does this exist levels of weird on some parts
dapper panther
I use the camo on winter camo only, therefore it blends into the color theme of the winter maps
frigid compass
huh makes sense
hollow moth
@next solstice guy, PRAMMO is essential for most of tanks, even in ISU-152 I would recommend take at least 2 APCR in ammo rack.
In lights and mediums it's highly recommended take at least about 15% of your ammo rack with PRAMMO
And say "I won't use PRAMMO for my honor" is the dumbest thing on earth game
I doubt you wouldn't take some prammo rounds in an E25 or AMX 13 75
Or in IS-5
dapper panther
Saying "I won't use prammo for my honor" is almost like saying
"I won't wear helmet I trench warfare"
It's just blank stupidity, while putting yourself into a handicap
crude gorge
if you play the t32, prammo is your best friend and life saver
elfin orbit
What? E25 doesnt need prammo
dapper panther
laughs in 183 HESH
solid gate
Perhaps the game developers could add a historically correct awesome german multi barrel beast p1000 to the techtree as an above tier x ultra heavy unit for the biggest and OP units
Just as a buildeble finish for compleating techtree
hollow moth
@elfin orbit tier 8 heavies...
solid gate
Also the geshutswagen tiger fur 17 cm kanone 72/21 cm Mörser 18/1 would be a nice tier 9 / 10 add , weak but extreme firepower
Love slow old style units
hollow moth
@solid gate they won't even if they wanted
But they don't
It's totally impossible
There is not even words to say how many "no" it would get
It's like say "add M1 Abrams to blitz"
solid gate
It would also be fun to have a Karl gerät as german heavy artillery. But only 3 shells to fire
hollow moth
It would spend half of the map, and the biggest gun of world for shot just 200m is stupid
hollow moth
Yeah, could be fun in some maps that have nothing, for put the biggest gun of the world and fits perfectly.... oh, every map have something that wouldn't let it fits
solid gate
It also kills own team due space
hollow moth
Two? Wow, maybe a little less, like 0
Cuz it will never exist
Just keep on mind, even Japanese Heavy Tanks won't come to blitz because of map size
solid gate
All to bad
deep ivy
@hollow moth they will eventually. They get scaled down like maus
hollow moth
Guy, they only choose E100 for blitz cuz it's the first tier 10 that a WOT player thinks when you say "german tier 10" @deep ivy
For popularity
wise moth
@solid gate GW Tiger is a tier IX SPG on WoT PC
lyric oriole
You got your images mixed up there
hollow moth
Wait, what? @lyric oriole
lyric oriole
The one on top is the GW tiger, the one below has the Panzer VIII Maus hull
bright folio
Image 1 is a GW E 100, Image 2 would be a GW Maus.
hollow moth
As like I said, I see no difference between these images
Lol
bright folio
Huh. I guess it isn't.
solid gate
There is no jag pz maus
hollow moth
Ikr, that was a photoshop
lyric oriole
It would be awful if it was
Superstructure with 10mm of armor but hull of a slightly nerfed Maus.
It's Valentine AT all over again 👀
hollow moth
Worse, it would have a Jagdpanzer E100 gun
lyric oriole
Nah, it would have the 21cm Mörser available for research likely
hollow moth
My spine is aching only because I read this name
lyric oriole
Good
solid gate
@lyric oriole oh you wanna see something interesting
lyric oriole
I guess
solid gate
@lyric oriole
lyric oriole
Huh
violet stream
Now that I have the Obj. 268, should I work on getting the Foch 155?
deep ivy
@violet stream yes yes yes
solid trench
Great...even more td’s at high tiers
next solstice
@hollow moth I really don’t care. I’m not gonna be using Prammo because i don’t feel that I need the extra pen. And I still do the most dmg on my team regardless
prime vale
@solid gate is that an apfsds round I see?
solid gate
@prime vale 140mm gun
solid gate
apfsdsdsfsfsafsdgssd what kind of names are these :)))))
@solid gate if you find that funny the british army used to call APCR CRAP
obvious joke 😉 still funny
@solid gate I’m not joking they actually did
@solid gate i know, im saying they must've found it funny too
Yeah supposedly it got changed 5 weeks after they found out
Supposedly there’s a SHART round aswell
cool thing to make something funny out of stuff that brings death and destruction 🙂
The t28 defener need a down graded gun and armor bc its a un fair tank
woven stone
Nah it’s gun is good as it is
It takes so long to reload an entire clip and has horrible aim time
solid gate
Its need for losers that pay to win
woven stone
You know what needs a down graded gun? The tier 9 T92
solid gate
It’s garbage get behind it and it’s done for
woven stone
The new American light tank
solid gate
Nope its fine
T92 ain’t fine at all T28 defender is pure garbage
Its has the t49 gun
No it doesn’t it’s gun is different from the T49s
woven stone
The T92 has 340mm HEAT pen
solid gate
Soo what so does the t28
No t28 doesn’t???
Also the T92s 152mm allows it to overmatch far more stuff
Nope
Then you must really not know how gun caliber works
The T28 defender has garbage side armor and is plagued with many frontal weak spots while the T92 has extremely effective frontal armor and has the ability to give itself almost infinite gun depression which is far more broken than the T28 coupled with the fact the T92 is extremely mobile yeah T28 doesn’t compare at all
And no T92 in physical appearance has the T49 gun but not at all it’s gun is very accurate and has more stronger ammunition that’s also more reliable and no T28 doesn’t have godlike pen like the T92
livid yacht
The T28 def is just a better proto in every single way with the pros and cons of an autoloader
If the T28 defender need a buff then the T28 proto desperately and not to mention the regular turretless pile of crap T28
bright folio
Not every single way. The T28 Proto has better DPM, dispersion, and AP pen.
quasi mirage
imagine infinite gun depression on the kpf p70 ❤️
pure herald
Yes, yes plz, I want ATGM, yes, it needs it to contend with tier 10s
Otherwise E100 is invincible, JgPz E100 comes out of nowhere, Grille SNIPES you, and IS-7 is self explanatory
astral jewel
Lmao I just did 391 dmg with he in a 5a yet the lowest dmg is 450 😂
visual jolt
@astral jewel Then it was splash damage
shut spoke
whats a fun tank to play (tier 5)? i got bored from playing the germans and ussr
visual jolt
@shut spoke T1 heavy and PZ V/IV
quasi mirage
@visual jolt but splash damage doesnt make sense either coz splash is divided by 2
pine jolt
Can you guys add the Russian t-28,t-38,t-70and t-50
tulip sail
As much as I'd like them I doubt they would add them
pine jolt
I hope they do
visual jolt
@quasi mirage I saw that he shot a 4005 with HE. That means it was the spall liner consumable
quasi mirage
oh lmao
lyric oriole
VK 30.01 and PzsflIVc best tier 5s
low elk
seen the t1heavy and the krupp 38d?
lyric oriole
Krupp is meh
low elk
the upper hull plate is like 200
lyric oriole
It's not, even if it was, it's riddled with so many other weak areas that it doesn't matter anymore
tulip sail
It's only 80mm
solid gate
is the 130PM on sale?
tardy talon
it's not
hollow moth
@next solstice so why did you aked for gun rammer or ennhanced shells on E100, earlier?
leaden talon
Who thinks VK 90 01p should be replacing Vk 72 01k
solid gate
both are irrelevant garbage
leaden talon
@Vodi_Srbe_Svoje vk 90 is good actualky (ForeverKobe)#4158
Woah wierd ping..vk 90 01p is a good tank...and historically it was after 45 02 b
zealous anchor
New mod?
astral jewel
@visual jolt I've never seen a 460 alpha deal 391 splash lol let alone on the side of a fv4005 turret lmao
visual jolt
@astral jewel The 4005 has a provision that reduces HE damage
astral jewel
O yeah true
visual jolt
That’s it
astral jewel
Damn lol I thought I was going crazy
solid gate
Is the scavengers 94mm derp gun any good still?
next solstice
@hollow moth because i wonder whether 258 pen was sufficient for the dpm boost or not, according to other people
solid gate
I know that 250 alpha is great on a teir 5 tank but is it really worth the loss of shell velocity pen and reload and depression? I got it for it's he but it seems like I can only say it's decent at best but 28mm isn't enough and that's with the calibrated shells buff should I just exchange it for the derp stug
inland osprey
It's less effective now that a lot of heavies have their armor buffed, I'd say go for the high pen gun
solid gate
Nah I got the gold back and got the nightmare he is way better same reload to if I wanted a 75mm tank I'd just use a Sherman
verbal crag
Most useless tank ever? If u ask me I know a couple more. Predator being a good example. No top speed, no armor and needs 10 seconds to reload a 3 shell magazine. Shells do 150 damage a shot with 1.5 seconds in between. Not good
@deep ivy
Sorry, not to burst your bubble. but the Predator,if it was real, would also face the same issues with not being able to propperly apply itself too a hilly invironment. I know Warhammer tanks are supposed to be unkillable beasts, but, "Fish are in the ocean" with this one. Meaning the idea doesn't work well in a video game, shouldn't and wont mean it can perform better IRL. Games have a tendacy to overglorify the unrealistic features of a tank, as well as overglorify the effectivness of a real example of a tank. (For instance, Wot Blitz has just buffed the Panther 1 upper plate because everything it faces can pen it, in real life, any tank that faced a Panther was underguned, and couldn't reliably deal with one.)
verbal crag
complete waste
@calm inlet
Too be honest, I would really like too see the Vindicator removed, and replaced by a Sturmtiger. The big Case mate rocket assult gun, (Rockets are not drivable, the shell is just so heavy it needs rocket propulsion, so they are super slow.)
bright folio
How many times must this be said: the Sturmtiger will not come to blitz. WG tried to put it in WOT pc, and could not balance the thing. Blitz’s smaller teams and maps make the problems worse.
verbal crag
How many times must this be said: the Sturmtiger will not come to blitz. WG tried to put it in WOT pc, and could not balance the thing. Blitz’s smaller teams and maps make the problems worse.
@bright folio
And yet they put Missiles back in the game.
And they are OP asF
bright folio
There’s a big difference between a 15.2 cm missile and a 38cm rocket.
Also, you want to put the thing at tier 7? WG couldn’t make it a remotely balanced tier 10 tank.
verbal crag
Obviously lol, but the only point I'm trying to get accros here is, that the Sturmtiger is essentially just the vindicator, they are so closely related by functionality, they just need to nerf the HE shell's velocity, and they essentialy have a Sturmtiger.
verbal crag
And, the sturmtiger doesn't have to be an OP nuke launcher, just like the Tiger 2 is now better than the E75, and the Panther 1 is now better than the Panther 2.
So there is alreadt plenty of OP tanks that shouldnt have been buffed they way they were,
bright folio
Giving the sturmtiger a 15cm gun wouldn’t leave you with a sturmtiger. You’d get a Brummbär.
bright folio
The Tiger II has basically become a prammo target now.
glossy dock
Well there’s a pretty big downside, the Sturmtiger needed a crane to load it’s shells so all and all, it would most likely be given a massive reload, probably worse than a KV-2
Though the developers have made it clear that Sturmtiger isn’t going to happen
bright folio
The Cent 1 and Panther II need buffs.
glossy dock
The Centurion I in what regard?
bright folio
It’s big and neither well armored nor quick. A buff in either of those regards would be useful. Some more DPM would also be nice.
glossy dock
I mean, Speed is pretty decent for a med, the gun is nice but it’s alpha damage is not the best, and the armor is in fact non existent. However minus the alpha damage being buffed, I think that it should only get a buff to armor or speed
deep ivy
@verbal crag pls stop about sturmtiger. Its 1: to large and 2: not balancable. WG said it will not happen so it wont. Also: wg made a deal with GW, the company behind the predator and the vindicator. Both companies have interests keeping those two tanks in the game. They wont be removed. Period.
dapper panther
That would also bring up a question.
Incase WG decides to remove vindi and preda from the game
What would WG do with those who already bought vindi or preda, or worse, grinded for them during the event?
fresh dew
Why not have different periods of time, this way if you want to play with missiles you can. Some tanks no matter what you do cannot cause damage to others.
lyric oriole
That question is illegal
solid gate
lyric oriole
The top gun
solid gate
Next gamo for ww2 event Tiger2 Captured
solid gate
New camo ^^^
iron egret
Good setup for T-34-3?
hollow belfry
I usually take Ehanced armor for tanks with better armor, not to mention it’s subpar HP pool
rigid thunder
I'd go for defense system + improved assembly, the enhanced armour won't really work for a tank like the T-34-3
iron egret
Ah alright thank
deep ivy
@dapper panther like I said: wargaming made a deal with games workshop (the company behind Warhammer). If wargaming removes the vindicator and predator from the game they get a whole lot of legal junk. Why? Predator and Vindicator are giant billboards for them. Its a massive commercial. Games workshop gets new players willing to pay hundreds of pounds/euros/dollars to get new models. Also: Wargaming gets money from selling the Predator and Vindicator and also as functioning as a commercial for Games Workshop
The biggest moneymaker in Games Workshops arsenal of armies for sale is Space Marines. The Predator and Vindicator are two Space Marines vehicles. People play the tanks in game and see how powerfull they can be. Then they want to play it in warhammer. They go to Space Marines and then they got to keep buying new stuff because Space Marines is the most varried army there is. There are no guidelines building a space marines army. There are no units that are a lot better than others...
frigid compass
predator and vindicator are garbage tanks but yeah
deep ivy
As you can see: I have been doing some research into it...
@frigid compass I just got my own Vindicator at home. In 4 days I'm going to see if it is any good in a battle
frigid compass
Vindicator is fine i guess the armor is only good against HEAT reliant tanks and newbies
basically anti smasher front but it aint got no gun dep and it only has HEAT and HE
deep ivy
Only I did the smart thing: I got myself a half finished Thousand Sons army and then ordered a Chaos Vindicator to build myself
So I'm off much cheaper than space marines
modern vine
Which is more worth it the E-100 or E-50M?
rotund oracle
depends
deep ivy
@modern vine E50 is worth is when you are a troll player. As a heavium it is capable. Sadly it is also a bit lacking in gun reload and dpm in some occasions, especially against quick reload tanks
E-100 is slow and is sure to be penned through the tracks and lfp. Turret is heat and apcr weak. Its gun (top gun) shoots out 600 damage so it can fend for itself. But its not the best heavy out there
solid gate
@modern vine definitely get the e50m, troll armour af, just face hug and u r good to go
hollow belfry
@modern vine E 50 M is a beast
Extremely bouncy for a med, with good weight and top speed, along with laser accuracy
broken turtle
m4 sherman or t1 heavy, what should i go next?
olive sky
T1 heavy because it's good and the E5 is still relevant
deep ivy
T1 heavy. the trump car is the best rammer, best armor at tier 5 and best gun at tier 5
barren sleet
Please WG, put KV1 as it was before modifications ! Now it's a bad tank. And not historically correct regarding to armor. Reload is too slow. Or at least increase its gun depression. There is no more pleasure to drive it now.
dapper panther
You know,
1.) balance has higher priority than historical accuracy
2.) WG can change it however it wishes, players have little to say in it
deep ivy
the T-43 is absolutely, possitively, completely the worst medium in the game
the entire tank is a child of RNG fail and big crap piles
visual jolt
@deep ivy The T-43 is actually a good little tank. There are way worse mediums in the game, including but not limited to:
Vk 30.02 D
Panther m/10
M4/FL10
T20
And that’s just tier 7
The T-43 has more DPM than some tier 8 mediums
solid gate
m4/fl10 is better than the t43
also @deep ivy you are wrong on too many levels. The t43 is actually a good tank
deep ivy
T-43 has the dispersion of a moon, with 4 seconds aiming time. that melts the dpm somewhat. then you got to load APCR when you see anything better armored than a Rhm. B.-WT or Skorpion G. there goes the DPM. its armor is incredibly bad. to compare them to your "worse" tanks, @visual jolt , the VK 30, panther, M4 and T20 all have better accuracy and between 1.5 seconds and 2 seconds aim time. all four of them don't need apcr when facing a tiger 1 or even a damned comet to reliably penn. the T-43 cannot even reliably hit a VK 28.01 on the move AT POINT BLANK RANGE!
and the Panther/M10 has better armor. M4/FL10 has a trol turret. T20 faster reload and better dpm. VK30.02 D has better hull armor and better turret armor...
it is litterly the worst grind I have ever performed
solid gate
did not know .335 dispersion is the dispersion of a moon
my man, you’re talking about the turret of the m4/fl10 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 such a joke, nobody has to shoot into that thing’s turret cause it is tall
also i’d argue that the panther m10 is now just as good as the t43 especially with the pen buff
visual jolt
@deep ivy for one thing, you shouldn’t be shooting the front of well armored tanks a lot. You should be at the sides and rear. At that point, you will shred things with your DPM. Also, the dispersion is not nearly that bad. I have plenty of battles in the tank and I’ve never had a huge issue with it
deep ivy
I know what to do with it. I know how to draw fire to the turret by keeping the hull down. I also know it fires quicker than most if not all magazine loaders in tier 7
solid gate
be fair, the worst of the bunch is the vk @deep ivy nah man u don’t know, there is simply no strong point on that turret other than the gun
the one with the trolliest and most annoying armour profile is by far the t43, it saves people too damn often
deep ivy
@visual jolt I have both stabilizers equiped. Calibrated shells. 100% crew. yet when firing at a VK 28.01 at 20 meters it misses twice. and I know dam sure I was aiming at it in sniping mode. TWICE
thats on the move. so bad is the dispersion
solid gate
that is an extraordinary case. 😂😂😂😂✌️😂
deep ivy
thats just one example. there are no quick shots to be taken with T-43
visual jolt
@deep ivy 2 shots doesn’t prove that the dispersion is bad
solid gate
there are quite a bit of them since meds don’t really have armour at that tier so you mostly auto aim
deep ivy
no. but the overal accuracy is
solid gate
nope :$, Vk’s, T20’s even Dracula’s accuracy are worse
livid yacht
The T-43 is one of the best T7 meds mate
bright folio
It's an underrated T7 med.
deep ivy
Its by far the worse. Can it troll? no. only the drivers can. can it fend for itself when in danger? no. can it reliably penn anything? no. even a damnet Type 62 can bounce its shells easily. can it scout? no
livid yacht
regal zealot
If you've mastered the T-34-85 playstyle, you should get used to the T-43 very, very quickly as it has virtually the same playstyle with better armor and DPM. The premium T-34-85 Rudy is also very solid, having similar stats to the T-43
livid yacht
It is good in like everything and so it is pretty flexible
deep ivy
the moment you get uptiered your gun is as useless as a greeck accountant
regal zealot
All tier VII meds are like that
They don't have the premium pen to deal with heavily armored targets (save for the T20, T-34-1 and Panther), but their solid mobility and DPM allows them to burn their targets with their superior DPM
crude gorge
panther has slightly better prammo pen than t20 like by 2mm or something
regal zealot
By only 1mm
regal zealot
Panther has 244 on it's prammo pen, T20 has 243
deep ivy
prammo penn on panther/m10 is 205
crude gorge
I thought panther prammo was 245
Huh ok, i was wrong, I guess I was mixed up with the t29’s gun
because panther and t29 have almost the same pen if we don’t include the HE
deep ivy
another argument against the T-43 is the fact that you need prammo to even penn the frontal armor of a tiger I
crude gorge
still 244 and 243 aren’t that much of a difference and I have to be honest, panther is now better than ever like before it was pretty good and now with the armor buff it is even better
regal zealot
Comets and Chi-Ris have this issue too, especially if the Tiger I's angling its armor @deep ivy
Try to come up with a more logical reason why the T-43 sucks to bolster your defense
deep ivy
Like I said: Its dispersion is nearly that of the 183, its shells dont penn anything, even if they hit. you need apcr to get through most armor, including progetto 46s. its engine doesnt allow for quick repositioning because its top speed is meh even at the best of times. you want me to go on?
concealment? bad for a low profile tank
if both comet and T-43 equip gun rammer the comet has over 100 dpm MORE than T-42
even with two stabilisers equiped it is impossible to hit on the move at more than a feet away
oh, thats with T-43 full crew and comet 92% crew
VK 30 has higher dpm
T23E3 has much higher DPM
regal zealot
Counterpoints:
- Base dispersion of a 183 is 0.45 compared to the T-43's 0.37 (The dispersion is ok considering that the Vk 30.02 D and the T-34-1 have worse dispersion values at 0.38 and 0.42 respectively)
- Progetto 46 doesn't need prammo to be able to be penned by tier VII meds; tried and true with my Rudy and Comet, which have penetration values on par with the T-43
- Mobility's pretty good for a well armored medium of it's tier (It cannot get overmatched by 152mm guns and its sides are very bouncy, turret is as bouncy and reliable as the T-34-85's)
- The T-43 has higher alpha compared to the Comet, T23E3 and Panther I, which enables for it to trade shot for shot effectively
deep ivy
countering counterpoints: 1. I said nearly the dispersion of a 183. most medium tanks at tier 7 and 8 have better dispersions. 2. when I faced a progetto 46 earlier today it showed up red. needed prammo to take care of it. 3. if you compare the speed with (lets just say) a T23E3 it sucks. and T23E3 bounces more shells than a T-43. 4. it has a higher alpha, yes. but only just and is down on health compared to those to
and in armor. and in pennetration. the entire front end of a panther shows up red. and dont forget it can outturn a T-43 with ease
so, think about that
regal zealot
Before the buffs, the Panther could be easily been penned by all meds, but that's now not the case. Also, you're solely putting the pressure on the T-43 in terms of accuracy, pen and such when there are other tanks that perform worse in that department. It also seems that you really haven't gotten grips with the tier VII mediums yet on how they perform on the battlefield
deep ivy
I have. I regularly play tier 7 to get all the meds I got on that tier up to tier 8. of all the meds at tier 7 this stands out as the worst
and that is coming from someone who has played it a lot. got a first class or 2 in it to
2 top guns
regal zealot
Your low average damage per game says otherwise, with most of your tier VII meds being sub-1000 dpb and quite a few of your tech tree tier VIII meds being around that similar score
I do struggle with quite a few of my tier VII meds, as their playstyle doesn't really suit me and sometimes I do get a bit too aggressive in my pushes
visual jolt
@regal zealot what’s your playstyle?
regal zealot
I can play hulldown tanks like the Comet well, but my main forte is more of the russian styled mediums, or tanks that can trade shots effectively
I can get a bit too aggressive at times, so the slower reload helps me with maintaining my composure when trading shots
regal zealot
I'm planning to get that, but I'm focusing on the T28 and the T-34-3 grind atm
solid gate
34-1 is spectacular
deep ivy
I'm more agressive, mostly trolling
always going for the bounces and punishing enemies for staying back
regal zealot
T-43 is a decent all-rounder for that role
75mm hull all round, troll turret, 8 degrees of gun depression and decent mobility
deep ivy
It cant troll bounce nor push!
the second you show an inch of your tank you get depleted of 500 hp! no troll bounces and no pushing!
regal zealot
Never had that problem in the Rudy, which is almost the same tank
regal zealot
Armor profile of a T-43 vs a Comet's 77mm gun
Comet
Panther
Like I said with the armor, the T-43 is the only tier VII med that can effectively sidescrape against its peer's guns, owing to the 75mm sides
The KV-13 could do that to with greater proficiency, but sadly that tank's now a collector
wise moth
I mean, if you’re sidescraping at all, questions need to be asked as to how you got yourself in such a horrible position
lyric oriole
^^^
If you are for some reason Sidescraping Against a medium tank then all it needs to do is rush you because it has the mobility
narrow shadow
Sure sidescraping is not a good tactic overall, but often you will be in a 1v1 situation where you need to poke out , and sidescraping can help you bounce the shot. So you are hating on it a bit too hard I think @wise moth @lyric oriole
kind sigil
ebon tundra
The BT - 7 has a new turret model. Or is that model older and exists some since months ? I Just remember that the BT-7 never had a flashlight before.
hollow moth
@empty frigate and that tiger 1 legendary skin is the most stupid that I even have seen
Give a pc, some Doritos and some lan house tickets to a guy that know how to make mods and he makes something better than it
Even this skin is better than tiger 1 legendary skin
hollow moth
Seriously, I would use this pz 4, but never that tiger "legendary" skin
carmine pulsar
K
hollow moth
I had a skin mod pack that had lots of anime skins, believe, I don't have more problems with thiz
rose venture
How is the vk 45.03?
tulip sail
Not great
glossy marsh
it looks soooo good though.
is it really that bad?
lyric oriole
It was slight better than Tiger 1 before, now it's bad
glossy marsh
argh its so pretty, why are you doing this to me
fleet berryBOT
Karakuliambro#5719 has been warned.
solid gate
anyone got an equipment loadout for the type 64
prime vale
@kind sigil get it
tame jungle
Type 64 is hot garbo
But if that’s the tank y’all get instead of the 34, be my guest
carmine pulsar
Is it a hot ball or just hot Garbo? @tame jungle
tame jungle
Imagine this if you will, a tank so useless on your team it may as well be an afk player
If you see one on the enemy team when the game starts, you are automatically 7-6
@carmine pulsar
Infact, it’s like having a stock leo pta in a game full of tens
Actually, there is one really good use for it
Racing
rose venture
Have to agree, the tank is quite meh in everything except speed, honestly just go play the hellcat and you should get a better experience.
lyric oriole
Type 64 is a stealth fighter, use the Camouflage, and be patient, it's not a tank for a hasty driver
carmine pulsar
What about for a hasty shot?
lyric oriole
Nope, hot shots only
carmine pulsar
K
low elk
what do you mean the type 64 isnt a hasty tank
you can literally yolo in and out with no punishment
lyric oriole
It can if you like to gamble
low elk
which is what i do by playing this game
cough crates cough
iron egret
The spotting range and camo is really useful too
You can spot heavies as they go to their positions and snipe them without getting spotted
Even spot and snipe other mediums without getting spotted
I just wish it had more mobility
Like atleast 80kph top speed
So it'll be less... useless for teams
neat nimbus
any tips for this
low elk
camp
bush
neat nimbus
ok
low elk
that was a joke dont take it srys
lyric oriole
Ambush Fighter, don't Frontline against a lot of DPM vehicles
Second line support is the best position for it
low elk
you poke out
whip out your giant throbbing 122 mm gun
and shoot whatevers in front of you
and back off
but never camp
neat nimbus
a suggestion for equippement?
low elk
calibrated
lyric oriole
1 1 1
2 1 2
1 2 1
neat nimbus
camouflage... nah i would do it fine without it
lyric oriole
Put it on, it's cheap and you'll easily make the credits back for 3% bonus
neat nimbus
i mean crimson fury looks nice but also elemental breath looks good
regal zealot
I’d go for this equipment setup for the T-34-3
Attack: 1 1 2
Defense: 1 2 2
Specialization 1 1 1
Since it has excellent soft gun stats when stationary, it’s much more beneficial to allow the gun to lay as quickly as possible with the accuracy as a benefit. VStabs wouldn’t really help the gun as the gun bloom when moving is horrendous.
lyric oriole
V-stabs helps a lot when firing on the move actually
It actually makes it possible to fire on the move at close range
regal zealot
For me, I’d rather focus on the midrange support, in which the refined gun + gun laying drive would be more useful imho
lyric oriole
Part of it is what you noted, mid-range I agree definitely use Refined gun, close range though use the V-stabs
regal zealot
I see. Why do you think the armor equipment is more useful than the HP equipment?
lyric oriole
Helps with random bounces, the hull has just enough armor to get some here and again, and reinforces the turret enough to be Effective at medium range
regal zealot
I see
low elk
AMMORACK IS IN THE FRONT
just saying
regal zealot
We know
lyric oriole
Ammo rack is in the front for IS-3 as well, so what?
low elk
have fun getting your ammo hit 6/10 times
lyric oriole
I've been ammo racked in it once and that was during Uprising
regal zealot
Meh, have been ammoracked twice in my Type 59, so I know all about it @low elk
mystic mountain
Anyone got tips on how to play with the Chaffee??
hollow moth
@mystic mountain Relax, chaffe use to be a tier 5 even in WOT, you probably aren't playing badly, the tank is just hard to play
next solstice
Don’t yolo in it. You have no armor.
mystic mountain
Yup i can tell but seriously using that vehicle has outright burnt me out on how much i lose with it
If i bush snipe i get called out @next solstice
next solstice
It’s more of a flanker. Basically just follow the meds, find hard cover, and only peek out to shoot. I think u have good gun depression so you can be pretty flexible with positioning
hollow moth
Nice @iron egret
iron egret
Thanks
But not sure if i can describe my playstyle
solid gate
How is this possible
noble moss
it’s a cursed image obviously
solid gate
It looks like hacks
noble moss
no it’s just photoshopped
regal zealot
This was from Reddit, from a year ago
Currently grinding the T28, no qualms from me atm
tardy talon
how's the grind? Thinking about going up the line after I finish having fun in the op t25 at
solid gate
they actually need to buff the Super Pershing (it performs worse than the Pershing), the AT8 (it sux), and the Tortoise (underpowered)
bright folio
The AT 8 just got buffed.
regal zealot
@tardy talon I’m having fun with the grind. Do make sure that you get the engine ASAP, without it, it won’t go anywhere. As expected for a slow TD, the average DPB with the 105mm gun isn’t the greatest and you may have to load the gold for those tricky shots
slender cliff
@solid gate hea like you w0t mate?!
regal zealot
Personal take on the T-34-3:
It’s a solid medium tank with a great turret, but you can’t rely on the hull too much, its sides are very easy to pen at 55mm as opposed to the Type 59’s 80mm.
The gun is wonderful when stationary, capable of hitting most shots you aim at, though it just blooms to oblivion while moving
The HEAT pen is very nice considering the 175mm pen on the AP
iron egret
Personal take on T-34-3:
Fun tank
Ruined by noob CNY teams
regal zealot
I’m taking a break for a few days to revise my last exam of the semester, so good thing it’s finally over; managed to increase my WR from 55.30 to 55.38 :]
So that’s pretty nice
iron egret
Pretty convenient
regal zealot
And the T28, I really like that slow bugger
iron egret
Wack
T28 is just a worse variant of the T28 Prot lmao
Idk but the armour is just irrelevant
short flame
79 wins away from t34-3, can i achieve it in 1 day?
short flame
nah im playing wz120ft with 75wr
iron egret
WZ-120-1 FT is not immune to afk trolls and nocamo bots =))))
short flame
they're all stuck in 5k< battles mm
since update 6.5, in eu and ru also afk trolls and bots with awful streak are put in this mm, even if they have more battles
iron egret
Someone post this in #blitz-memes quickly it's a sniping clanless premium camo VK 45.03
dapper panther
Censorship failed, I see
iron egret
Wwwwhat are you talking about its cool and good
dapper panther
Uncensored name right above the censored name
iron egret
oop 🥴
dapper panther
Heh
In fact, vk45.03 is barely any better than back row sniper, cus he's low tier here
He struggles even with his own tier
hollow notch
Meh, not for long. I can see it turning into a tier 7 tiger 2.
dapper panther
It may have good gun and hull front, but lacks mobility
If you cannot pen it from front, just flank it. It won't be able to circle you out
shrewd basalt
What the Best Equipment for T-34-3 ?
regal zealot
@iron egret T28’s not bad tbh, solid DPM and decent frontal armor
short flame
imo, vertical stab, thing to point faster, calibreted, +HPs, optics, everything else as usual
regal zealot
I’d use the refined gun over the vertical stabilizers if you’re more of a second line role
short flame
nah, vk45a is just useles, its slower than tiger P with way worse armor, or way slower than tiger 1 with still worse armor
@regal zealot idk, i dont see me sniping in a tank like that, i would use wz120ft at this point
i think it's for breaking lines
or fast paced gameplay in general
regal zealot
Second line doesn’t necessarily mean sniping, it’s primarily a support medium with the low DPM and high alpha. Aim time is very good to compensate the poor gun dispersion stats, so it can shoot at weak spots with impunity
short flame
yeah but idk, it has still poor accuracy, i would focus on aiming time to reach 121 levels
so you're able to always stay on the move, with just a few instants for shooting
i dont think im anyways going to wait the full aiming time
would just run around shooting nabs
for second line i prefer wz120ft, way better dpm, min accuracy, pen, also frontal armor, and its all okay since u dont even need a turret for that
regal zealot
Eh, no need to talk about the Wz 120-1G FT; that’s already good enough and I don’t have it
Personally, I might actually hate the Wz 120-1G FT’s playstyle, even if I have it
short flame
its like a more confident su122-54
instead of having a ton of dpm to negate enemies' damage, you have armor
iron egret
Ok so basically
Does T30 have the armour of a T34???
I just bounced an IS-3D shot by sidescraping at around 30 degrees
iron egret
Lol so T30 can be a T34 by equipping the second gun
hollow belfry
A T34 that will see Tier 10 though...
molten sail
Pen isnt the tanks problem
regal orchid
I really cant understand it, why isnt the T95 getting any slightly buff when all other Tanks are buffed and buffed each Update?! The Gun handling is the absolute worst i ever saw in my life, with such a slow tank it should be easily possible to put snapshots even on distance.... You cant even use it as spearhead anymore because its completly taken apart by the new American Light Tanks if you frontline, in Tier 10 Matches its almost useless against any Tank.... Its just the worst Tank on Tier 9 that you can play in my mind, and nothing is about to be done with it... If there wasnt the Grind for the E3 there is no reason at all to play it
solid gate
@regal orchid because it is performing in the middle of the tier IX TD's. It is not underperforming.
regal orchid
Wondering why im performing better with the tortoise as with the T95....The Gun just sucks in my opinion... Even in mid range most of my shots hit the ground, while the Tortoise has just awesome gunhandling atleast
tame jungle
T95 had its armor robbed
neat nimbus
I wonder if European nation will have a second line just like Japan soon
visual jolt
@neat nimbus There will be Swedish and Czech tanks
neat nimbus
Wow
I thought Czech tanks where from different nation but that's gonna be a good addition
visual jolt
I’m assuming they will be a part of the European line but that is not a for sure
neat nimbus
Wheeled French lights I think they're gonna work how the traction work
I'm just excited for the JP TDs
dapper panther
@visual jolt i hope they will split this pointless multi-nation line into individual lines by nation and eventually fill them up properly
visual jolt
Yeah it would be nice if each country got their own tech tree
lament granite
So Japanese TDs arriving soon
rigid thunder
Idk why a war thunder model is there, but they are arriving yes
lament granite
Oh i don't have another pic
visual jolt
@lament granite we will see them in the next update or 2
empty frigate
OMG i hate wot blitz in mobile i accidently bought wz blaze and i cant refund it 😥 😥 😥 😥
visual jolt
@empty frigate did you play it?
empty frigate
No
visual jolt
@empty frigate send in a ticket
empty frigate
Spent gold doesn't refund
rigid thunder
yes you can, with a ticket that is
empty frigate
Ok ill try
Hope it refund i wont play till they answer me for yes or no bc came premium account with the bundle and i dont want to use any of the bundle goods
lyric oriole
Good man, You are making the right choice, so long as you don't play until they get back to you you can get your gold refunded
hollow moth
@solid gate i liked that jagdpanzer E100, how do i get one?
XD
hollow moth
What did you accidentally bought? @empty frigate
Ah wz blaze
Rest in peace, I'm glad I bought type 52 and not wz blaze
Now you have to deal with it
empty frigate
I dont like wz blaze bc i have many premium tanks in tire 7 such as drac and tankenstien and lycan and they are much better than wz blaze
hollow moth
@empty frigate actually as blaze is popular
Popular by the worst tier 7 TD fame
That's why it's so cheap in store
tulip sail
I dont know why but I've always liked the blaze its utterly terrible but i somehow have fun in it
quasi grove
No tank is bad when played right
solid gate
Except stock tier IX tanks (especially meds)
hollow moth
Except jagdtiger stock
dapper panther
@quasi grove
cough
- Luchs after 5.5
- PZ II J
cough
dapper panther
it's because people are too dumb to counter it effectively, despite the fact it SUCKS
no mobility, no penetration, no damage
quasi grove
4th best winrate in blitz
SUCKS
solid gate
It’s a seal clubbing tank what do you expect
quasi grove
It’s a fun tank to play, if you ask me
dapper panther
well, I havent played that tank in ages, so idk, maybe i should refresh my memories with it 😄
livid yacht
It's a light tonk
JuSt FlAnK iT
dapper panther
are you serious??
livid yacht
Yeah
ThAt'S wHy I wRiTe LiKe ThIs
dapper panther
__>
livid yacht
(☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
dapper panther
solid gate
Balancing sucks nowadays
Sheridan players are happy but rest not.
And this against any tier 8 med.
As the matchmaking still bringing this tanks on opponent. Makes it nonmeanfull even to try to play decently this game anymore.
Even created an ticket for Wg but reply was just autogenerated chit chat .
Didnt they say we will nerf?
I think they will nerf it but now lets hope it doesnt turn into another 183 case
Bulls
Feeling the moments delete this game ..installing the Pokemon.
bright folio
The T92E1's nerf makes sense.
The Sau 40 is getting a major armor buff, the SU-130pm is getting balanced, and the T54E1 gets more speed.
solid gate
@bright folio if the atgm velocity gets nerfed that means it’s only gonna make the rocket easier to guide
solid gate
yeah like in one game the rocket dropped direct angle from sky. No way to react.
This rocket thing is totall grap ruining this game . And usage off tier 8 premium tanks . 200 euros waste of money at least for many buying a lot off tanks.
These tanks have more power full gun than TD more mobility than TD.s . Hull size smaller than TD.s . Just makes no sense to play with nonrotating turret Td.
And the game designers just cheer out how happy they are to ruin gaming exprerience for many.
bright folio
Someone here is quite salty.
solid gate
Maybe you shouldn’t be driving campy vehicles
neat nimbus
this tank has a good camo masking
robust dirge
The hellcat has slower turrent rotation and traverse but better dpm and speed
carmine pulsar
What about it’s top speed?
robust dirge
They type 64 has 72 and the hellcat has 65. So 7 km/h difference
woeful kestrel
Almost a Chinese hellcat,
neon comet
Tiger 2 needs a buff... this is how it looks vs a tier 5 tank
Admittedly, the tier 5 is using prammo, but still
hollow moth
First:Hey, is think from tanks.gg? This website analyses the Armor from WOT, not WOTB (don't need to answer, that's obviously from tanks.gg)
Second: what is the tier 5 that you are comparing? In wotb there isn't a tier 5 with at least 200mm pen, so or you are lying saying it's from wotb, or you are lying cuz it's not from a tier 5 or you are lying cuz you you edited the image
Third: tanks with smaller guns than 120mm aren't able to pen this tank easily even with prammo @neon comet
tulip sail
Wow I was right the ac can pen with apcr
woeful kestrel
Tbh I think the tiger 2 buff was alright but a tier 5 pen that thing bruh,not even most tier 8 can’t pen tiger 2
hollow moth
I'll show the armor difference between WOT and wotb
This is the WOTB tiger 2
240mm effective armor on front, without angle
This is WOT tiger 2
210mm effective armor without angle
I'll research in blitz hangar, if I find a tier 5 that can pen at least 210mm armor, I'll say here
Wow
Actually there is one that can pen WOTB tiger 2 with angle
The most cool is: he didn't lied
Pz. Sfl. IVc can pen tiger 2
hollow moth
237 @woeful kestrel
woeful kestrel
Wow
hollow moth
Angry Connor have 239
woeful kestrel
But now we talkin abt tier 6
hollow moth
Angry Connor is tier 5
woeful kestrel
Wait actually?
hollow moth
Yes, tier 5
woeful kestrel
Geez I didn’t knew that
The greatest of all is that many tier 7-8 struggle to pen tiger 2 with ap and apcr but a tier fivey boi can do the job
hollow moth
Sorry @neon comet, I thought you lied, you actually say the true, Pz. Sfl. IVc and Angry Connor can pen tiger 2
Wow, angry Connor have even the biggest DPM of tier 5
Talking about angry Connor, you can actually miss a hit if the shell goes through here
tulip sail
Huh never noticed
tulip sail
It would be pure karma
neon comet
@hollow moth
Yes, I was looking at it with the Death Toaster 😂. I did not know about the Angry Conner’s hidden power though...
interesting
hollow moth
Another cool fact, TOG II tracks aren't finished
valid lodge
Angry Connor grows in power😈
hollow moth
One more cool fact, when someone says the T92E1 armor is very good, this person talk about this red parts
Or about this part of hull at 70 degrees angle
That's actually more than what you are thinking
More armor than bat chat
solid gate
Yes you got the point. It is quite often when shooting and aiming on the tank front it is hitting that red area. No damage or bounce.
solid gate
The armour is totally red for tier 8 mediums or light tanks when facing that.
Gg again first game on morning.
short flame
fun fact: Ue57 can reliably pen all tanks in the game
regal zealot
That 6-pdr has really good pen for its tier
solid gate
Bring the 5.5 tenks back pls WG
grim moss
Do people here know how to take screenshots...
calm inlet
its a lost talent
solid gate
Should there be a possibility to add a tech for side track protective plating for all tanks , just like gun upgrade . It slows a bit the tank but also protect a bit the tracks so tracking isn’t easy from the sides
short flame
tracking will always be possible, because tracks are soft, the only way to protect tracks is to cover the whole thing with Maus or e100 side skirts, but actually covering thr entire tracks, so you wont pen.
hollow moth
Guess that guy mean something like Panzer 4 G and Panzer 4 H @short flame
The panzer 4 G has no spaced armor unless tracks and mantlet
Meanwhile panzer 4 H have these spaced armor
As like panzer 4 S.
@solid gate but no, use a track as protection in all the tank is impossible
civic terrace
One question before 5.5 there was the panzer 4 h?
elfin orbit
Cool, a pz 4 s was actually made?
empty frigate
Pz 4 s is cool tank
short flame
@hollow moth i perfectly knew what he meant, those side skirts are in ANY way not going to protect your tracks from being broken, since they can be penned by everything, and once you pen that, you can pen tracks as well, because the thickest one is 40mm
hollow moth
In a heavy tank 40mm is actually useful
brittle valve
Type 59 is the best
wild pine
pz2 is da best
raven apex
i like t-34-85
dapper panther
@civic terrace
One question before 5.5 there was the panzer 4 h?
No, it was named only as "Pz. IV"
solid gate
Bulldog 90mm actually counters T92 pretty decently
As far as my knowledge goes the E25 should be a light tank the one premium tank in the game is the E25 Jäger
alpine notch
One question before 5.5 there was the panzer 4 h?
@civic terrace There is only one Pz. IV H exist in this game, and it is Pz. IV Ankou Special (and not a german tank, but japanese collector tank)
bright folio
Then don’t buy it.
hollow moth
Simple
But actually would be cool have personal missions as like WOT, that gives you premium tank exclusive for it
solid gate
The T-34-3 is fun to play. The turret is very bouncy, front hull can deflect an occasional badly aimed shot, and the gun is just fun. High alpha and amazing aim time makes it perfect for a quick flank shot. And don’t forget 550+ HE shots to lights and paper TDs.
wild gulch
Can someone tell me what’s the best equipment for RHM?
neat nimbus
theres a variety of camos to choose as well this tank looks stunning
I don't what to choose if elemental breath or any of the ones that I have their respective certifications
regal zealot
For me, the black dragons suit the tank well
@wild gulch
Firepower: 1 2 2
Defense: 1 2 2
Specialization: 2 2 1
tulip sail
It took me way to long to figure out you weren't making a joke about it having a 122mm
rotund quail
Woah there is a deathstar like tank?!
lyric oriole
No, not in terms of appearence 😂
Deathstar is the nickname of FV215b 183.
The Pz. IV S has a Legendary Camouflage that's supposed to be like a Tie Fighter however
crude gorge
tie fighter on tracks
neat nimbus
has anyone seen the T34 heavy tank legendary camouflage is basically star wars themed too or atleast is i what i think