i'll have to no life free xp for the Tiger II
also gotta get Churchill ASAP, main goal is the Black Prince
#vehicles-discussion
solid gate
viral lodge
BP is fun
solid gate
playing churchill i with the 25dmg turret is not
BP is damn good.
free xp for that boy too
viral lodge
Church I was my first 7 kill lol.
solid gate
But, it didn't catch me that much, even if it's a good heavy.
viral lodge
The tank is a good learner for understanding angling.
solid gate
Churchill 1 used to be hella good, 1 year ago.
i first played this in 2017,then was on a break till like november 2019
Or am I confusing it with the Mk VII?
dunno as i wasn't above tier 4 those years
glass crypt
smh dont sell tanks, most of what u sold are hella fun
viral lodge
Mk1 is a learner, Mk VII is great, BP is OP ¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
entirely agreed,especially crusader
i was dogsh!t lately in those tanks so i sold em
I just checked an updated credit coef chart, Theoretically, T29 makes more money than Tiger II, and almost double of T1 Heavy.
Chart in question.
solid gate
many thanks Ragnarok, i'll be playing some wotb tomorrow so perhaps i can grind up to BP in one day
hard nexus
its worth, play now before they nerf armour
solid gate
What armor?
viral lodge
T92E1 has a dumb amount of armour for a light
zealous anchor
@viral lodge I agree 101%
neon comet
Why did the BP just get a buff?
next solstice
it was pretty powerful to begin with
tardy talon
how good is kv3 after this buff
misty wing
Can't tag wargaming but Sheridan camo/attachment when?
tulip sail
Honestly I wish they would make changes to the attachments
I'd love it if they cut the prices in have (refund those who already bought one) and added more
misty wing
Some of the attachments seem really lazy tbh. The 4005 one and the upcoming Sheridan one are some of the good ones.
tulip sail
Some yeah the m48s is pretty cool but not for that price
dreamy blade
If you really think about it, shouldn't the Kpf get ATGM?
frigid compass
i mean... if the kpf got its irl stats it would move faster than the new ATGM tanks and have ATGMs itself
misty wing
But it makes the driver dizzy, which could possibly be reflected in game by always having a dead driver
frigid compass
well in that case the LTTB driver would have head and hand injuries always
as people drift it like its tokyo drift all the time
@misty wing
tulip sail
The kv2 would constantly have a damaged turret ring
misty wing
All Porsche tanks would frequently break down and catch fire.
next solstice
none of the german tanks would last longer than 3 minutes before breaking down
bright folio
Except for the StuG III.
glass relic
And other tanks that uses the 38t chassis
shy quail
Stop talking bad about mein Hetzer 😫
tulip sail
He just pointed out its relatively reliable
hard nexus
most tier 10 tanks are just pieces of paper
rapid barn
Sheridan sucks. T49 better
keen shuttle
@frigid compass the lttb wouldnt have tracks after a drift, too much pressure to snap them
livid yacht
Back then when you slid sideways your track broke
I'm happy it's not the case now
solid gate
@rapid barn T49 sucks T49 A better
prime flame
wait thats still in the game
calm inlet
no
wide echo
Hello
I have around 9k gold do I save for later or buy a tank?
elfin orbit
Do you like light tanks
wide echo
Yup
eager pine
121B any good?
elfin orbit
Why not type 62
eager pine
Already have it
carmine pulsar
Get the new ATGMS
lunar valve
Type 62 or Type 59? and why?
solid gate
None, because (censored) China.
rigid thunder
They're both good tanks for their tier, but I'd say the type 62 is better tier-for-tier. The 2 also have different playstyles
red shoal
medium ?
btw type 59 is old and heve no pen long reload time and fire every shoot 62 is nice but smasher and etc. best is 121b after buff is quite op
shy quail
What is the name of that tank?
hollow belfry
SU-130 PM. Basically a turretless russian Skorpin G
quasi mirage
T62 isnt tha6 good anymore. Decent but power crept
hollow belfry
I know but its not 360 degrees turret
scarlet nest
🤔 but i think it's gonna work perfect
Cause it's very fast tank
scarlet nest
Well.... T28 have armor in front
Yeah i'd say it have good armor in front
But it's too slow
dusky wigeon
So is like t94
rigid thunder
The T28 has a pretty bad frontal profile
scarlet nest
Actually it's one of the most hard and weak tank
Front can block Mediums and Light tanks
But many tanks like HT & TD will pen it
And it's really slow
scarlet nest
Nah just all of your front is kinda weak to fight against high pen tank
dusky wigeon
T34 can pen it
dusky wigeon
But if I angle it they won't pen it
scarlet nest
🤔 but i think people will use promo
hollow belfry
Cupola/hatch is pennable easily. Not to mention any med/light with braincells with detrack you before sticking to your rear
scarlet nest
Weeell but it's pain road for T95...
even T95 is kinda wrong
bright folio
Forget any med/light. Half the Heavies will flank you.
bright folio
You can pen most of the T95 front if you have >330mm prammo pen.
dusky wigeon
They can shoot hatch only if is face hugging
hollow belfry
T28/T95/ Emil are too team dependent for my taste. especially seeing how the average player performs
They also are often too slow to play an important role and the team either lose or wins without them
scarlet nest
It's pretty easy to shoot hatch
dusky wigeon
Not for bad accurcy tanks
scarlet nest
Well yeah T95 is fine in my opinion
And E3 is cool tank to use!
This is bright side
scarlet nest
E3 is moblie this makes E3 powerful
You can't d really much in 16km/h
E3 can go TOP 35km/h
bright folio
The T95 has a lower plate which is easier to pen than the T110E3's imo
scarlet nest
With that speed the much more things that you can do
dusky wigeon
But is hard to aim for it
scarlet nest
Meh idk i don't face T95
bright folio
Just flank either of them to win.
dusky wigeon
Turretless td can break flank if they are sitting near the buildings
If t95 at field is easy to beat
scarlet nest
Meh it's too slow anyway
Game will be almost finished when he arrived at middle of fighting
dusky wigeon
They can camp at the base
solid gate
I hate ATMG'S
olive sky
I, too, hate anti tank machine guns
bright folio
Then he'll love 5.5.
hearty cape
Does every tech tree tank exist irl?
zinc hatch
nope
olive sky
that's a big no
hearty cape
Could u give me some big examples of ones that don’t exist
zinc hatch
grille
olive sky
the whole German E series
hearty cape
E series?
zinc hatch
e100, e75,..
olive sky
the American T110s
hearty cape
Ohh right @zinc hatch
zinc hatch
btw balance smasher idea: tier VIII
hearty cape
I’m not gonna complain about the smasher cos I have one👀
zinc hatch
no complaining by my side, just balancing tip 🚀
tulip sail
@hearty cape while some of the E series did exist in blue prints and others started prototyping there are others that just aren't real like the jagdpanther 2 the "t28" and "t95" are the same tank the t28 is just in its transport set up the type t-34 is also fake and theres a few others that are wrong either partially or entirely
A friend of mine made a list of fake stuff in wot but not blitz if you want I can send it but be warned its along one
bright folio
The Chinese TDs were made up, The VK 72 and VK 90 never were, the Lowe never left the drawing board, T-22 was never a tank, Both the VK 45.02s never left the drawing board, the VK 45.03 was never a tank, and the list goes on.
bright folio
@tulip sail 1: Send the list to me. I'm curious. 2: I'm marginally sure that china bought T-34/76 tanks from Russia at some point.
tulip sail
@bright folio they bought the t34-85
tulip sail
Could you possibly send a source?
hearty cape
@tulip sail thanks for that. Could u send me That list
tulip sail
Of course
hearty cape
Cheers
bright folio
North Korea got T-34/76s, but there is no evidence of China getting any.
rigid thunder
that one's pretty obvious, since wg stated in their video that they fabricated the tank
iron egret
wait
tulip sail
Not everyone watches those I've even gotten into arguements with people saying its real
bright folio
One thing on the list: Both the WZ-121 and the 121B existed irl.
iron egret
So the Progetto M35 mod 46 never even was a blueprint?
iron egret
Oh the Type T-34 is fake then?
I will now obliterate every Type T-34 I see no matter what
bright folio
The WZ-121 existed as the WZ-122, and the 121B was the type 79(the british 105mm L7A1 gives it away)
tulip sail
Yeah they aren't real in the sense the wz-121 isn't it's real name
bright folio
Hmmm
Personally, I'd count it as real if it was used under a different designation. However, I see your point.
tulip sail
Yeah I guess it would be better stated to say its name is fake instead of the tank is
I'll also mention the cent action X is also kinda real but really not
violet stream
Remember this little boy?
tulip sail
This is what a different historian I've talked to said about the action X "apparently this thing was part of a "recovery demonstrator" at an arms expo. My guess is that it was used to get pulled out of ditches"
bright folio
I wonder when the Caernarvon Action X is coming.
tulip sail
Yeah the vickes medium was an interesting tank
Idk but I'm kinda interested in it bc it looks really cool
violet stream
I have one recorded battle in it. I wish I could restore it.
bright folio
I know that it likely never was, but WG announced it next to the Chimera, and nothing has since been heard about it.
tulip sail
Tbh I wish they left the models in game bc they did look really cool
Itll probably come out this year or next
bright folio
Hopefully.
Add the Chimera, Caernarvon AX, and the Centurion Defender all at the same time.
tulip sail
Save for the scorpion and e75 ts I'm not really interested in any other premis
God no I dont need them all at once
bright folio
Quadruple the number of brit prem t8 tanks all at once-lol
tulip sail
Lol no my wallet cant take that
tulip sail
Wait it doesn't?
bright folio
Nope, 4*190.
tulip sail
Oh cool
tulip sail
Ok so make that 3 of the up coming tanks I'm interested in
bright folio
Stronger turret, spaced armor goes to the turret sides instead of the hull sides, better mobility, minorly worse gun handling, better camo, and a much more usable autoloader. Basically, a defender tank.
tulip sail
If it's not too expensive (it will be) I might pick it up
bright folio
I'm imagining that at some point, we'll have a defender from every nation, and it will just cycle from heavy to td to med and back.
tulip sail
I feel like a light defender will be really interesting
bright folio
I'd find it hilarious if a french defender just removed the autoloader instead of adding one.
tulip sail
Lol I guess it would be a pea shooter than
bright folio
I feel like the more likely option would be an AMX AC 48 defender, however.
tulip sail
Hmm possibly but I dont really know
noble stirrup
Is the 121b any good as a tank
bright folio
It's a russian-style med, but with a western 105mm gun.
tame jungle
I told you, I told you all. Look at it. Ferdinand is better than jp 2, y’all can suck it 🗿🗿🗿
Ferdi gaaaaang
tulip sail
By 1%
rigid thunder
1% better
tame jungle
Still better 💪🦀💪
bright folio
About 2x the people play the JP2 than the Ferdinand.
tulip sail
I will say the Ferdi does look better and is a real td
bright folio
The JP2 has a higher dmg ratio and higher avg kills.
tame jungle
Yet is behind by 1%
bright folio
That's probably due to the extra 1100 players playing the tank.
Fewer people play the tank, which generally means that the players who do play the tank are better.
tulip sail
And have more influence on the overall stats
bright folio
The JP2 has a better gun(same gun handling, better dpm) and is much more mobile.
Finally, the JP2 can go hulldown and have a smaller profile with much more armor than the Ferdinand.
visual jolt
SU-130PM looks like a turret-less Skorp and I can’t imagine it has as good gun handling because russia
wise moth
@visual jolt blitzstars has the stats. It's a skorpion with less DPM, less accuacy/gun handling, no fully traversing turret, and less HP, in exchange for more mobility and camo. Kind of a bad trade IMO
visual jolt
Yeah sounds like something I don’t really want
solid gate
I wish maus had its fuel tank at the back
viral lodge
I think it is pretty similar to Mod1 with probably better frontal armour. idk the gun comparison
@rose venture Here is a stat comparison
More depression with better turret armour and worse hull armour, slightly worse DPM
echo ingot
Nice tank
solar wagon
hello
guys is the JgPzE100 better than fv 183b??
like in general looking to there equipments
thick trout
They both have pretty bad guns, the mod 1 has better hull armour but the type 59 has depression and a better turret. The type 59 is more comfortable to play and more versatile but it requires a bit more thinking. Personally I hate my mod 1 and I haven't played the type 59 in a while but I definitely much prefer the type 59. I would probably say it isn't worth 7.5k gold if you have other tier 8 prems you like playing but if you want something kinda unique then it's a solid tank @rose venture
viral lodge
@solar wagon JgPzE100 is definitely better
solar wagon
@viral lodge i wanna know why?
viral lodge
Armour, speed, DPM.
The 183 is the worst Tier 10 tank overall, people play it for the "fun" (derp) factor
rose venture
Alright thank you @thick trout and @viral lodge glad to get some info!
viral lodge
Your welcome 👍
thick trout
Anytime
chilly cargo
Oooh new soviet td. I want it
viral lodge
It’s basically a worse Skorpion with better camo
hollow belfry
KV-2 and 183 are played for the derp. Not the efficiency. 85% of their players' results show it
hollow lodge
This might sound like an OP tank but what if they added a tiger 2 with a lowe turret
But it is super slow
flint eagle
I wanted a prem light. Got bulldog. Now 62 is for sale... fail on my part
bright folio
The blackdog is fun. Makes for a good tank for murdering lightly armored vehicles.
dreamy blade
Especially for the 102mm of HE pen, and the 320 HE alpha.
bright folio
That's... why it's so fun.
shy quail
Lemme guess, WZ-111-5A is just like the WZ-111 and WZ-111-4 but with its two machine guns removed?
bright folio
The WZ-111 Model 5A appears to be an IS-7 that traded armor for gun handling and a small bit of mobility.
rigid thunder
Not to mention that 7 degrees of gun depression
next pivot
Maus or E100?
dapper panther
Maus for bounces and rams, e100 for big pewpews, choose whichever suits you better
pulsar remnant
Oh guess this is the place I ask for this type of stuff alrighty then
t57 heavy or amx 50 b
dapper panther
50b reloads faster, t57 empties the clip faster
bright folio
Step 1: Get the top 12.8 cm gun.
Step 2: Use the 15 degrees gun depression to hide almost all of your tank.
magic ledge
welp still 20k to go
bright folio
Step 2 can be done with the stock gun too, but the top gun should be top priority.
crude gorge
the tank gets significantly better once you get to the 12.8 cm
rigid thunder
you should consider not using a 50% crew btw
crude gorge
oh yeah 75% crew is recommended, don’t start off with a 50% for any tank in general, do a 75% whenever you can
bright folio
^
bright folio
One thing with the 12.8 cm gun on the Emil. You don’t get a prammo round. That said, 230mm pen is enough to kill most things that you’ll face.
bright folio
As for the VK 100, trade shots with people. Sidescrape and wiggle the tank&turret while reloading.
next pivot
Angle it and hide the lower glacis whenever u can
bright folio
^
bright folio
Yes.
crude gorge
yes
next pivot
Lol
magic ledge
ok thanks guys
solid gate
Am I the only player that want wotb to add the fuel tank on the maus?
dapper panther
any advise on how to play lttb when in lowtier?
solid gate
@solid gate you not the only one lol
@dapper panther spot the enemy and know where your teams TD’s are ok
That standard light tank advice for tier 5 and up
elfin orbit
But unlike normal lts the lttb can play a lot more aggressively because of that armor
soft shard
Still don't understand the traverse speed on the grille
hollow belfry
Swap the guns with the WT, give him 100-200 more HP's and the Waffleträger will be a better T10 than the Grille
More gun depression, better camo, 360° turret, better traverse
echo ingot
Kzfpz 70 on the hull has only 120mm of armor too small
steady rover
XD
solid gate
Ez
hollow belfry
Jpanther became really good, with the buff + ehanced armor and the 8 deg of gun depression, you can hold a ridge efficiently. Been working on this and it's fine
solid gate
@solid gate Is smasher good tank?
crude gorge
it’s op
hollow belfry
"Is Smasher good tank"
.....
I don't have words to describe my feelings when reading such a question
The Smasher is OP, broken to the top. A faster and better armored KV-2, with a better gun too. This tank should either be nerfed to the ground, or moved to tier 8 while keeping his current stats. @solid gate
solid gate
Or you stop whining like a child and learn how to kill it
deep ivy
@hollow belfry its armor, except turret front, can be penned from anywhere. Side turret and rear turret to. Turret traverse is slow. Reload of 15 sec makes it vulnerable. Do I have to keep going?
BTW: I GOT ONE!!!
rigid thunder
The smasher is overpowered, especially with that gun accuracy. The armour is decent, the DPM is pretty ok and the mobility isn't all that bad either. I'm not complaining and whining for WG to nerf it, I'm just stating my opinion.
hollow belfry
Tier for tier, this tank is sky high better than the KV-2 in every domain.
@solid gate I don't have problems dealing with Smashers, rarely playing T6 but here I'm only reporting the opinion of most of the playerbase. This tank is unbalanced, I'm probably not the first person to say it
Dont remember much people (including its players) saying that the tank was balanced or weak
If you find it weak, then I should say there aren't many tanks able to sit in the open and bounce shots from 5 or 6 enemies all around :)
glossy marsh
How is 121b compared to rus/chinese meds? It's avg wr is bit on a low side
hollow belfry
As the name says it's basically a WZ-121 but equipped with a 105mm L7
scarlet nest
105mm gun on Chinese tank that have armor like Russain pretty special
hollow belfry
Good turret, but rather weak hull
regal zealot
Does it have the T-54 hull?
hollow belfry
Let me check
rigid thunder
It has a pretty ok frontal armour profile, turret isn't all that great. The mobility is good, but the gun is pretty bad due to the bad dispersion on the move. Base dispersion and aim time are relatively good though
regal zealot
Huh, so it isn’t that bad
scarlet nest
Yeah it's not bad tank
rigid thunder
Compared to the WZ-121, 62a and 140 though, I'd say it doesn't match up
narrow shadow
Nice job highlighting the lower plate on one and upper plate on the other clap clap
hollow belfry
Checked again, may I ask you to send me a screenshot of the T-54's lower plate on Blitzhangar then? Just to be sure
narrow shadow
Probably T54 has the same armour on LFP and UFP then. Doesn't matter, noone shoots at 121 LFP anyways cuz it's so small and the upper plate is pennable anyways
hollow belfry
So, my point was not to say it's UFP was strong, but to answer the question if 121B and T-54 had the same hull.
Their hull armor is similar, but not exactly the same
eager pine
I like 121B the best at tier X
hollow belfry
Do you own the 121B?
Did you play the other Tier X mediums?
Just asking ¯_(ツ)_/¯
eager pine
Yes I have most of them including T22
hollow belfry
Grinding for the Leo pt a right now, through the ATGM spam
solid gate
Opinions on lowe?
deep ivy
To old fashion. Everyone knows the weakspots now. Better premiums to spend gold on, like the med in store
bright folio
Lowe: Good premium, but not the top. One of the better premiums to own, due to the fantastic gun that doesn't often require prammo and high credit coefficient. It does get boring playing after a while IMO, but still a very good premium to own.
rose venture
Nice, yea the Lowe is reliable is what I’d call it, not the most thrilling tank drive your going to have but I used to use it for credit grinding till I found a medium that did it better.
bright folio
Which one: T26E4 or Type 59?
minor mica
Is the Chinese assault force bundle good to get ?
bright folio
Presumably, you went to get the tank before the tech trees were reworked.
clever ferry
they got rid of the tank I unlocked and replaced it?
bright folio
T1 cunningham -> T2 Medium -> M3 Medium -> M3 Lee -> T1 Heavy.
rotund palm
Is KV 4 good but just with a Useless stock?
clever ferry
aww sad
rotund palm
I have the IX stock but can't pen a Tiger II and VK 100 lol
bright folio
KV-4 isn't particularly good. The armor will quite often provide you some bounces just due to being thicc. The gun is probably 3rd worst among T8 heavies. You're also really slow.
rotund palm
Yeah
But it's the only way to get IS 4
Hope they replace the stock with something Better
Any advice on how to use a really slow tank Cause I'm used to IS tanks which is kinda fast
bright folio
I remember playing my stock KV-4 (quite some time ago). This was before the meta had really shifted to heavies/tds, so I would inevitably end up being the last alive, and would get 3-7 tanks attacking me all at once. I would inevitably die, but not before blocking at least 1.5k every match.
rotund palm
Does KV 4 have More ram damage than Tiger II ?
Cause In my last match a Tiger II rammed me with 600 HP and i have 1073 HP after he rammed me he died and Did only 385 damage to me
Same with the VK
bright folio
The Tiger II weighs 71 tons, while the KV-4 weighs 107 tons. The VK 100.01 (P) weighs 120 tons. Generally, the heavier a tank, the more ramming dmg it will do.
rotund palm
Oh
Wait what's the weight of the KV 5 ?
@bright folio i have a question
What's the weight of the KV 5 ?
Also is the Fout eights pack worth it cause i only like the KV 5 in it
bright folio
100 Tons. Look it up on blitzhangar or some similar site.
minor mica
What tanks are good for grinding credits?
rotund palm
Should i wait for them to sell KV 5 or buy the Four eights ??
minor mica
Or should I look at the blitz hanger ?
bright folio
@minor mica Lowe, T34, Type 59, and T26E4 come to mind. Check Blitzstars tank compare for credit coefficients, as blitzhangar doesn't show them.
bright folio
To each their own, I suppose.
rotund palm
But what if i already known the tanks in The pack Do i get gold?
If i get gold if i already own it then I'm buying it then buy Löwe
Should i buy FCM 50 t or Löwe or Progetto 65?
bright folio
I have the KV-5, and it isn't good. The armor isn't good enough or unorthodox enough to counter the many weakspots. The tank has the option of two guns, neither of which are good. The tank is surprisingly mobile, but that isn't enough to save the vehicle. You'll only bounce low-pen guns with any amount of consistency.
bright folio
WG will sell the tank at some point again, with a better deal.
rotund palm
I'll wait then
Also should i spend 9054 gold or save it?
I got the gold from watching ads every day
Wrong channel this is Vehicle discussion
solid gate
Have you got any tips on how to play with Rhm borsig waffentragger?
Cuz i NEED Help with it
normal wyvern
Use camo and hide after every shot to reset camo.
carmine pulsar
Use the stock gun for better pen and reload
hollow belfry
+1
The Borsig is amongst the stealthiest tanks in the game. It's low profile and a 360° turrret means it doesn't have to rotate often => no camo rating reset when rotating the turret.
Try to stay unspotted, the accuracy with the 12,8 cm gun is pretty good (with some provisions and equipment, I got to around 0,290 dispersion).
Reload is decent, pen too.
I wouldn't recommend the 15cm gun. Wait to get the WT for such calibers. The derp one feels unconsistent and you will need prammo regularly against heavies, and/or T9's, wich is not guaranteed to hit, especially at long ranges
solid gate
Skorpion better
hollow belfry
the person above asked tips for the Borsig, he wasn't asking for a 17k gold premium
carmine pulsar
Outstanding move heavy cruiser.
carmine pulsar
Free xp it.
hollow belfry
Use free exp, or platoon with a good medium tank player to compensate the fact that the Emil is highly team dependent
solid gate
Is IS 6 better or T 34
hoary steppe
@solid gate
hollow belfry
I would go for the T34. High pen and alpha, solid turret and 10 degrees of gun depression
Just got my VK45.02 B
Not as bad as I thought
solid gate
Being team dependent = 10% wr. St Emil will be a hell of a grind
wispy thunder
When will the japanese TD be released?
tulip sail
It's the easiest grind ever you can play what ever tank you want and get it (the lovely thing know as free xp )
@wispy thunder when they are done testing it (they haven't said any specifics)
solid gate
Why don't there be wheeled tanks in the game?
tulip sail
There too fast and the maps too small
wispy thunder
I figured you all didnt know a specific date. Im wanting to know because my birthday is coming up in February and im wanting to save some money for that premium tank. Tryna figure out the date it comes out
tulip sail
I'd guess sometime in march
solid gate
@tulip sail sheriant It drives an average of 51km/h
tulip sail
And the wheeled ones go faster
solid gate
@tulip sailIt still has no difference
tulip sail
Or at least this is what I've been told
solid gate
I have mema with sheriant I have mema with sheriant
tulip sail
Ok?
glass crypt
tbh they would suck as they cant turn on a dime
solid gate
@tulip sail idk what he’s saying at all
carmine pulsar
The tanks that we have at the moment are fine
ancient iron
hey so.... uhhhh .-. How is the Type 62?
tame jungle
Best t7 light tank and actually op asf with that heat
ancient iron
bought it... tried it.... love it.... best use of free gold ever
viral lodge
I only play 2 lights (Type 62 and Type 64) and the Type 62 feels OP almost every time
solid gate
I honestly feel that the teir 7 heavies never really deserved that much of a buff to their armor t29 was fine where it was the black prince armor was strong already tiger armor was admittedly weak but it never needed to have more armor frontally than a tiger 2
chrome stirrup
[everyone liked that] ^
coral coyote
Which tier10 premium medium tank is better?T22, AMX 30 B,121B or the M60?🤔 🤔
rigid thunder
T-22, but the 30b is great as well
hardy sparrow
@solid gate just like the t22,they buffed the t7 heavies cus of the smasher
But BP didnt need the armour buff
rotund skiff
@solid gate i don't know what you're on but wheeled tanks would break blitz.
"no difference between sheridan and wheel tanks"
my dude the sheridan does 65 km/h. the EBR 105 does 95 km/h, and i think it has 80 km/h backwards too. in speed mode
and it has a 105mm with 1300m/s velocity on apcr. plus the wheels repair to full when destroyed, which would conflict with the enhanced tracks equipment.
hollow belfry
@solid gate since when does the Tiger I have more armor than the II?
viral lodge
Tiger II's is angled as well
hollow belfry
Fine, knew it (of course)
But who on earth compares a tank's protection considering only the raw armor thickness? Like.... seriously
It would be like summarizing a gun's efficiency to its alpha
rotund skiff
all lights can fire prammo. most lights can circle it. most lights can also just let the tds deal with it while spotting them
shy quail
I thought Tiger i had 100mm of armour?
solid gate
They buffed the armor to 165 mm of armor
zinc condor
To be honest 165 is a bit too much for me, 145 would be good
rotund palm
Lol
tulip sail
Hm?
tulip sail
Oh it looked like a regular meh dmg battle till you gave context
rotund palm
Can E 75 Pen a KV 4
tulip sail
Yeah
rotund palm
Cause he was struggling to pen me so he rammed me
tulip sail
He must of either been stock or couldn't aim
tulip sail
Oh lol ig we have the answer
rotund palm
Another draw :/
tulip sail
How are you managing this many draws I rarely have 1 in a 100 games
iron egret
Blame SU-152
tulip sail
Lol Rng is strange
solid trench
Rng is ready for new event...Chinese new year
dusky stone
Wow riperoni pepperoni
solid gate
Why hellcat It is so little twisted?
pulsar cypress
Experience gained by Foch greater than Grille considering how difficult handling is for Grille than Foch ? I see in every battle that Grille is very difficult to play unlike other TDs but gets less XP. WG should reconsider xp compensation.
hollow belfry
I don't own the Grille yet, but having a great time with the Waffleträger.
robust dagger
question: should I take the KV2 or the kv1s?
hollow belfry
KV-2 if you want a slot machine with high alpha and the worst accuracy in the game, KV-1s for the rest
robust dagger
then I’m gonna get both
hollow belfry
About the T10's of both lines, the IS-4 is better than the 7, but it's recommended to go to the IS-3 and unlock the BL-9 gun, unless you want to grind your tier 9 ST-1 with 175mm pen
plain hollow
Are the French Heavy and TD engine upgrade worth it? And if so which would be the best tank to research them from.
dapper panther
heavies are not meant to sit still. they are hit'n'run. unload the clip and run away. as for your question: whichever suits you better
plain hollow
Well thanks for the heavy tip I am just at the beging of that line. So I didn't really know that.
dapper panther
they are KV-3/KV-4 level in size, but SPIC level in armor thiccness
ARL and M4 45 are the last one that you can use are traditional heavies, starting from tier8 they are more heaviums than heavies
plain hollow
Basically b-c combined with Foch
Somewhat...
I am just sad that none of the lights upgrades are used on the other lines.
fast compass
M4 45 isn't a traditional heavy either
Me too. I am planning on grinding it soon. I have both the foch and 50 120 but nothing carries over to batchat
plain hollow
It has paper- ish armour
fast compass
Heavium is the word
Large, bad armour, good p/w but bad speed limit, excellent gun and 10 gd
Also a lot of hitpoints
dapper panther
as I said, "hit'n'run" is the keyword for 50 100 and above
plain hollow
Also guys tips for french TDs
I am used to the regular old German Stell bar known as Jg.Pz.E100
dapper panther
that wont apply for the baguette spammers here :D
they are huge, they are agile, their gun is decent (foch 155 is broken OP currently)
plain hollow
And the regular Foch is nerfed... oof.. sad french noises
fast compass
Tier 8 onwards are similar. Medium tank brawlers, don't get too close or you will be circled easily
Tier 9 foch hasn't been nerfed for the past few updates
plain hollow
I love the unicity of the french. That's why I want to fully research their trees.
dapper panther
indeed. they are dead in close combat
In midrange combat they rule all meds
fast compass
Also my favourite french td is the tier 5. It is just good, unfortunately i can't stand tier 5 gameplay.
dapper panther
sides are HE pennable by large caliber (152 and above)
rear is HE pennable by almost anything
plain hollow
S35 isn't that good you had some other decent choices at that tier. Like the StuG if you know how to play it.
But that's my opinion only
I like more the german TDs
fast compass
I enjoyed it. Decent alpha and insane gun traverse. I haven't played germans yet
plain hollow
You have 2 completely different play styles for germans
You could go with the fast and no armour Grille or with the stell bar with a gun and an toy train engine
fast compass
Hmmm both options are quite interesting. I enjoy tanks with no armour and speed. But then again having a lot pf armour and a massive gun is fun in its own right
hollow belfry
The Waffleträger auf Pz IV is really good, I don't have the Grille yet but imo the Waffle is the best of the line
Fast, very good gun depression, 360 degrees turret. Fell in love with it
fast compass
I will probably do the leo grind for my first german line. I love lights anyways and i am certainly looking forward to the vk28 and ru
hollow belfry
Camo is not on the level of the Borsig, but still decent
About the lights, I hope ATGM's spam won't make you suffer too much
plain hollow
I love the damage you can make with JgE100 by raming down a slope
It's soo heavy that it amplifies the damage
And then the enemy not being able to shot your lower plate
fast compass
Ha yes i am doing the atgm grind first. By the time i get the Sheridan, they will be either nerfed are not as dominant
fast compass
My favourite line currently is the patton
plain hollow
My favourite was B-c but since wg decided to add missle arty it is now obsolete
fast compass
Patton was one of the best performing tier 10 med till every other med tank around it got buffed
plain hollow
At least I can pen the atgm's with he in b-c
But tbh B-c is obsolete with progeto and atgm
fast compass
I love baiting missiles in it. They mostly miss me when i am wiggling or just hit my strong turret where they don't pen
Don't shoot he at Sheridan though. I am hoping for a buff for that line
fast compass
The entire hull is spaced armour
plain hollow
Wait what...
fast compass
plain hollow
Wow now the b-c is really behind
B-c needs a special consumable or something or a buff
fast compass
Lower plate on both the front and back, behind the tracks and the turret is the only parts not covered with spaced armour
tender thunder
plain hollow
Should I use free exp to buy the tier viii engine for the french tds and heavies considering I have 30k exp and 20k exp and the next tank is 70k exp
bright folio
I’m marginally sure that the engines carry over at least to the AC 48.
plain hollow
Yeah it sounds bad out of context
Anyways Should I use free exp to buy the tier viii engine for the french tds and heavies considering I have 30k exp and 20k exp and the next tank is 70k exp
bright folio
I’d get it. It will save the grind on other tanks and make your current grind easier post-engines.
fast compass
Dew it. It started becoming an awfully long grind for the tier 8 for me near the end and i already had the engines.
Ac46 needs some sort of cupola and rangefinder buff
plain hollow
They do not care about french tree @fast compass
pulsar cypress
I think it nearly takes 250k crew xp to earn 100% crew in grille. It is unsatisfactory till you reach above 90% crew in Grille.
winter siren
So emmm, If I wanna explore Brit's tech tree, any recommendation or particular tanks to look up?
bright folio
Cromwell, comet, cent 7/1, Churchill BP, Conqueror, AT 2, and AT 15.
bright folio
Oh-add the Conway and FV4005.
plain hollow
Yeah the Death Star
winter siren
So the best is to reach Comet 1st?
pulsar cypress
Conway is decent. I like the brit mediums. They are decent.
bright folio
The Cent 1 needs a buff.
plain hollow
@bright folio YES
@pulsar cypress add the special consumables to it and it is great
bright folio
It’s a thorn in my side grinding to the Brit T9-10s.
winter siren
I'm so used to HT/TD game play nowadays that I can't even scout or hitnrun properly
plain hollow
bright folio
Don’t get the FV215B 183. It’s not a good tank.
plain hollow
Yes it is
That big cannon
I regret going for Jg.Pz.E100 I should've gone for fv215B 183
bright folio
No, it’s not.
fast compass
It is the worst tier 10 tank and i am glad that it is
bright folio
The gun is the only good point. It’s garbage everywhere else.
plain hollow
Eww premium
bright folio
The Lowe is a good tank to own.
winter siren
Don't get me wrong, I had 10k gold from frikin snowglobe
And I heard Lowe is good cashmaker
bright folio
It is one of the best.
elfin orbit
Aw man that's nasty
bright folio
KV-2 107 > KV-2 152.
elfin orbit
Delete this
solid gate
Nope Never LIVE WITH IT
bright folio
@solid gate Are you looking to be muted?
elfin orbit
In the wrong channel too
bright folio
<@&481447501690568709> ?
winter siren
Still own my KV2
fleet berryBOT
Viper_Sniper76#4119 was muted
winter siren
Rack kills are satisfying
bright folio
And... there he went.
winter siren
Well, all of my tanks atm are soviets/jerries
bright folio
Get some unsee juice.
plain hollow
We need Japanese heavies change my mind
bright folio
Too big.
I’m marginally sure that the Maus/some other superheavies had to be downsized to fit in blitz.
elfin orbit
Yah, maus can physically block corridors in pc
random meadow
Leopard needs nerf
solid gate
Nerf the T92 and Sheridan Is so Cheat
The Sheridan Need a Big big Nerf , Is so Cheat very cheat
elfin orbit
But you can say why too, just saying
solid gate
They have insane penetration
tame jungle
Yes as do most tier tens
elfin orbit
The american lights just have more ways to use that pen
chrome stirrup
Yeah ive been saying that the missile tanks arent OP jus overplayed. Which I guess could be abbreviated into OP as well but
deep ivy
FV215B 183 is a sheit tank in most battles. only earns its stripes every once in a while
solid gate
Nerf the Jackson penetration
solid gate
Bc it is annoying to have a tank pen my buffed front armor on the IS-2
frigid compass
"nerf jackson penetration"
ARL-44 is sitting there with 212mm pen AP and 259 APCR
tardy talon
"nerf every tank who can pen me"
frigid compass
ARL-44 can penetrate the IS-2 with AP no problems and this guy wants the JACKSON to get it's pen nerfed
carmine pulsar
Can we put him in the trash?
misty wing
@solid gate English pls
solid gate
If I don't want
hollow cedar
Next tank for sale
frigid compass
and also this as a crate tank
carmine pulsar
Nice
woeful pumice
Nice
ancient iron
Holy cow...... the more I play it.... the more I like the Type 62...... my last battle I ammo racked my opposing Type 62 (Edited to remove profanity)
gritty lintel
I feel like we should add the A1/E1 Independent to WoT.
tulip sail
If only we add the nezba aswell
woeful pumice
I would really like to see more light tank branches in the game
grizzled dock
Tank trains were still new lol
latent mauve
so i want to play effectively with the t49. should i go for the 152mm gun or the 90mm gun? and how do i effectively play with the 152mm gun?
carmine pulsar
You flank and abuse paper tanks and also attack weak spots vulnerable to HE with the 152mm
glass crypt
also prepare to be hunted down right after u shoot 🦐
cosmic cypress
Why would they nerf a collector tank
viral lodge
How do you bounce shots on a Smasher?
solid gate
Turret
viral lodge
🤔 Easy pen turret tho
solid gate
Not on sides
viral lodge
If it is facing you shoot the hull, sides turret, rear, whichever
solid gate
I was in a 2v1 in a room, the smasher was camping with only the top half of his turret showing, I shot it and did 0 damage
viral lodge
🤔 Why wouldnt you flank a camping smasher tho?
If it camping it means it is near cover and therefore has a flankable spot
solid gate
Because there was a t92 rushing my side
carmine pulsar
Because it has the 152mm wargaming op wallet warrior launcher
viral lodge
🤔 I always end up putting smashers in CoDs with my Type 62
solid gate
I was in a td
viral lodge
and BP eat Smashers, which TD?
solid gate
T28
viral lodge
Oh, well there's your problem
solid gate
._.
viral lodge
T28 is probably one of the worst tanks in the game
solid gate
Nah it has good depression
viral lodge
🤔 I mean St Emil has 15 depression
solid gate
But st Emil can't pen is7's front
I managed to do 1000 to an is7 that was showing its front on me
viral lodge
IS-7 is a tier 10... Emil is a Tier 7
solid gate
In a fight between t28 and st Emil, t28 would win ez
viral lodge
🤔 I mean that is tier 7 vs tier 8, St Emil is a team fight tank lol
Doesnt change the fact T28 is considered one of the worst tier 8 tanks overall and that Smasher is considered OP
solid gate
T28 is near the middle and smasher is broken
solid gate
No it's like comparing Sheridan to t92
viral lodge
You must like your T28, first time ive heard someone not hate it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid gate
I don't like it but I don't hate it either. It's better than ISU that's for sure and that's the only other thing I have teir 8
solid gate
No it's maxed apart from crew and teir 9 gun
I have the X gun
But ISU is paper and has slow (ish) mobility and has frontal turret. T28 has decent armour very slow mobility and about 300° turret
viral lodge
Back, brief afk
solid gate
K
viral lodge
The ISU is a sniper and should rarely have to use its armour in the first place. It has way more damage output as well
And are we talking different T28?
solid gate
I'm talking about defender
viral lodge
OH
solid gate
Wait u thought I was talking about the other one
viral lodge
Good lord that makes one hell of a difference
solid gate
;_;
viral lodge
solid gate
Ohhhh u thought I meant those
viral lodge
The T28 means the bottom lol
The Defender is a pretty good tank, just lacks mobility
viral lodge
Ya, but it has pretty good burst
solid gate
Eh, 7 secs is a lil bit too long
viral lodge
This makes overall way more sense to me lol
solid gate
Ye lel
viral lodge
T28 D is probably overall better than the smasher, the smasher can prob frontally pen with HEAT
solid gate
The smasher can bounce but in a 2v1 defender is a grain of sand
viral lodge
For Smasher shoot lower turret for pen, only doesnt work if it is really hulldown
Normally smashers dont even hulldown
viral lodge
pretty much
solid gate
The only way to counter smasher is either another heavy (e.g lycan) or a med/light (e.g type or comet would do)
viral lodge
Or sniping it
viral lodge
Basically any tank can counter it, Smasher is the perfect example of Anti Newbie, and 👋 ¯_(ツ)_/¯
grizzled dock
Idk but i never had an issue with a smasher. I just balance it in my su
crystal hare
Anyone excited about the SU-130PM
lyric oriole
You mean Soviet Skorpion G?
viral lodge
Stats are overall worse than Skorp as well I think
crystal hare
viral lodge
Basically faster with limited aim (no turret) and a worse gun
crystal hare
Overall balanced, skorp might be 1-3% better
Skorp has slightly better firepower and hp
Su 130pm has far better mobility
viral lodge
1 degree better depression and shell velocity (Edit makes more sense)
crystal hare
Ya read stats wrong
viral lodge
🤔 Maybe will be an event prize upcoming
tulip sail
I recommend getting a few before you get premis for that teir
viral lodge
Definitely do not buy any premiums/collector tanks above the tier of your highest tech tree tank. General rule of thumb
tulip sail
Or if you do get them free dont play them until you've got 1 or 2 there and have a bunch of battles in that teir
viral lodge
^
crystal hare
Thanks for the advice
neat nimbus
ok why WG put the fcm 50 t on steam? is a tech tree always avaible tank
they couldve put any other good tank
neon comet
Is the JPanther basically a tier 7 WZ 120 1G FT now?
I can just yolo in it and get big damage
misty wing
Why do some panther-based tanks have the corners of the frontal plate cut off
glass crypt
well, they are literally cutting corners 🦐
solid gate
Do people still have the mark v heavy tank?
delicate mural
sly violet
pastel drum
@delicate mural you do realize that AMX M4 49 has been in the game for quite a while. Just no one plays it
civic terrace
Is it bad?
pastel drum
Its ok. Maybe a bit underrated
brave glen
@civic terrace one of the best tier 8 heavies imo
narrow shadow
Noone plays it cuz noone has it. I believe it is one of the best T8 heavies, and most importantly it is fun to play. It is mobile, has bouncy armour and great DPM for a heavy
hollow belfry
Yeah it only casually appeared a few times in the shop. Don’t own it but it’s quite versatile and seems great according to the stats. Pretty rarely met in battle though
dapper panther
indeed. it's not very common in the shop
ebon tide
What is the max number of tanks I can sell in one day
dapper panther
5
dapper panther
slightly better than 121, but has less caliber
ebon tide
So is it
And is it if I sell all my tanks to buy it
How. Good is it compared to other tier x tanks
bright folio
Imagine a stereotypical Russian medium, but then give it the gun off of a stereotypical western medium.
dapper panther
basically it's a type59 upscaled for tier10
ebon tide
I dont have a type 59 but a tier 7 prem buffed up to a 10 doesn’t sound nice
So if i were to duel an is7 or a maus with it i would loose?
dapper panther
type59 is tier 8
ebon tide
Yea
calm inlet
121B is good
tardy talon
how op is the t25 at
lyric oriole
Neat, I didn't notice, I like it though
teal veldt
Yep I like it too, more than before
chrome stirrup
yeah i saw that a day or so ago when i was finishing a mission, i used my Pz. III A and saw that tank, a BT7 i think
teal veldt
Yep bt7 tier 3
lyric oriole
A lot of vehicles seem to have more Detail Marder II as well
teal veldt
I don't have it, can you make a screenshot? Pls
lyric oriole
The Inner area seems to be more detailed
teal veldt
Thanks
tulip sail
The marders had that for a long while didn't know about the horseshoe antenna though
golden birch
@tardy talon
That 5 is my server rank for 30 day but I’m usually a dark blue WN8 player
echo drift
Dear WG. Maybe you wont listen bc you never do. You BROKE t7 completely!!! All the buffed tanks are now nothing but broken except the panther. The already borderline op t29 and black prince buffed again?! That is what happens if you just nerf and buff with avg winrate as the only indicator of a tanks strength. Ofc these tanks are bad in average winrate bc t5-7 is the new low tier. Because you REMOVED low tier so new players wont learn anything until the get into t5-7. an armor buff to the t25at panther joanther and at8/7 is okay. But now to such an extent. This is way overbuffed. A t6 should not have 200mm frontall hull armor.
Maybe the smasher caused all this but it is still the MOST BROKEN of them all. The only way to fix that in case the smasher is the reason for these crazy overdone buffs is to NERF the Smasher. You will still earn a ton of money wg and you‘d earn even more bc players like me invest into games with a headquarter that keeps their game alive and not try to milk the last pennys from it.
Good evening tankers
@golden birch check t1 heavy. Easy 5k wn8 bc broken and low tier tech tree
golden birch
Oh ik how broke that is lol @echo drift
echo drift
Sorry for the spam but i want people to read this. They are destroying all the balance at the moment at t5-8
chrome stirrup
🤷♂️
echo drift
Just because they either have bad indicators for a tanks strength or trying to powercreep the most broken tank in the game. Which is a bad idea for the balance and a bad idea for the game itself xD
Bc powercreeping a premium or collector even if it is op is basically scamming.
And they could just nerf the smasher. People would still play it. It is an up tiered kv-2 hell yea i‘d still play this 😄
golden birch
If they’re that against nerfing the smasher which is bull to start with if you’re going to buff a bunch of tier 7s why not buff all of them
echo drift
Bc powercreep is the most terrible thing ever (it pisses off those who spent money on strong premiums as well bc that is nothing else but nerfing the tanks that are not being buffed) and it just shatters the entire balance
golden birch
You could give the smasher some small buffs and it would easily be a competent tier 8
echo drift
Look if you buff all t7s you will make it harder for t6 and t8 as well. So you need to buff these. Then t9 and t5 will be effected. Powercreep my involving new maps (corridor fight or big open map) or involving new tanks ok.. you cannot get rid of that. But powercreeping INTENTIONALLY to make good tanks weaker is just Wargaming exploiting their own policy refering to premium tanks/enriched tanks.
Just think about a type59 or an is-3 defender. Once absolutely op now nothing but around average
Not bc of new maps and new NORMAL tanks.
Because they kept buffing so many tanks and kept involving more alot stronger than average tanks.
golden birch
I dont understand why a self imposed policy gets in the way of the health of the game so much
tulip sail
People also just learned how to deal with them
echo drift
If they would just hire me for 5 minutes i‘d safe this game. And gib everyone reward tanks like on Pc ❤️
@tulip sail they clearly got worse over time.
golden birch
How do you deal with a smasher effectively and consistently? Even the reload doesn’t give you enough time for DPM to counter them
tulip sail
I take it you didn't read how I said also
tulip sail
I was talking to cmdr
echo drift
@golden birch the policy to not nerf premium tanks is good. But now trying to do it the sneaky way with powercreep is such a snitch SixNine move that i am about to vomiz
Vomit*
echo drift
Just let them be how they are and never sell them again. Dont try to piss off those who paid for the tank as well
tulip sail
And what you can do depends on what tank you're using to fight the smasher @golden birch
golden birch
@echo drift but they continue to sell them and who cares if ppl are pissed off it’s better for the game they’ll get over it
@tulip sail it destroys everything unless you’re just playing a bad player
At least in 1v1 scenarios
echo drift
What is worse for the game. Keep selling it or leave it how it is never sell it again and make everyone happy.
golden birch
Never selling it again but they don’t do that
bright folio
You mentioned that a t6 should not have 200mm frontal armor. Because I'm pedantic, the AT 2(tier 5) and AT 8 have 200mm frontal hull armor, and have had it before this buff.
tulip sail
Those who buy premis thinking it cant get nerfed probably forgot that they can get nerfed at any time according to the EULA
And there are things you can do against the smasher @golden birch
bright folio
There are plenty of tactics for dealing with Smashers.
tulip sail
All dependent on the situation
frigid compass
Smasher is balanced
golden birch
Like the team eventually draining it but if it’s 1v1 at the end of the game 80% of the time the smasher will win @tulip sail
echo drift
Premium tanks should not be powercrept no matter how op they are because powercreep destroys the overall balance
golden birch
That is very true
echo drift
Alot more than a handful of op tanks
frigid compass
Smasher is so balanced that it can hit a 200m shot while going full speed
echo drift
For example there are like 2500 wz-120-1ft owners. Trust me that is not alot
tulip sail
1v1s are rare and not something that should be held as a rule
echo drift
Thing with smasher is that it is an su-152 with a turret and armor.
frigid compass
and better accuracy
bright folio
@echo drift There are 3100 players who've played the WZ-120-1G FT in the past 90 days.
tardy talon
also better mobility
echo drift
It just outperforms similar tanks in terms of stats in a large extent
frigid compass
90d =/= all owners
@tardy talon SU-152 has better mobility speed wise
echo drift
@bright folio still a tiny number of players
frigid compass
for a prem tank its decent numbers
frigid compass
3000+
golden birch
Smasher is broken sure you can beat it sometimes but as the wr reflects it wins a huge chunk of the time
frigid compass
here's the top tier 7 statistics i took like 2 days ago
echo drift
Still i dont want to discuss around powercreep destroys alot more than a handful of exlusive op tanks.
Exclusive* dammit my fat lifter fingers xD
frigid compass
powercreep hits tech tree tanks more than the op tanks
echo drift
It hits everything. Not only in terms of balance it also pisses off custmers super hard bc your used to be good is-6 is now garbage
frigid compass
IS-6 has no armor and trash dpm for 122mm guns
bright folio
@frigid compass Then pick the 122mm gun with good dpm.
echo drift
Just one example. I dont want to mention more of them.
Worst things at the moment.
3) consumables
2) progressing pay to win
- Powercreep
frigid compass
unlike the M6 EXP the IS-6 doesnt have penetration or armor to back the dpm up
consumables are fine
echo drift
The premium consumables sorry
frigid compass
the only real useful new consumable is the more expensive speed boost
but considering the average player base are people who are dumb enough to use adrenaline before they even fire its not a big deal
echo drift
Well maybe i dont dislike them too much. They are quiet fun
Quite
My fingers are like half my smartphone keybord. I have an excuse xD
echo drift
Bc bullshit. I told you the 2 only possible reasons for that earlier
frigid compass
T29 already has a turret impervious to smasher fire that isnt HE if they're trying to make the smasher less op
@echo drift i joined the convo late so can you tell me
echo drift
1st: Bad parameters for measuring a tanks performance
2nd: Powercreeping OP tanks that are sold for money
frigid compass
Smasher really isnt gonna get powercrept at all by the BP buff
echo drift
Exactly
frigid compass
it already had to fire HEAT at the BP pre buff
echo drift
But you know how wg works. Their buffs are very random and look like they were decided by a 4 year old child
frigid compass
275mm HEAT pen practically ignores most tier 7 hull armor
cough cough Tiger II lfp
echo drift
Tiger2 is the first absolutely overbuffed tank.
Followed by the t1 heavy and all the t7 tanks now.
frigid compass
Smasher has no problems with Tiger II but other tier 7 heavies do
solid gate
The Chi-Ri is becoming one of my favorite tanks. The gun is so fun.
carmine pulsar
The only problem I have with it it’s just a HE box
hollow notch
I dunno, a tank the same size as a tiger should have the same armor as the tiger...
Give the chi ri the tiger 1 armor!
frigid compass
ah yes give the medium tank 165mm ufp very epic idea
frigid compass
Chi Ri is mostly only HE-able by 152s though
hollow notch
I'm just suggesting reasonable buffs by WG's standards.
frigid compass
smh smasher bigger than tiger p pls wg buff armor
bright folio
The Chi-Ri seems to be HE-able by a large number of T8s.
frigid compass
well 150mm+ guns can HE it easily
bright folio
Once you get to the sides of the thing, 38mm armor is pretty easy to HE. The problem is that plenty of T7 tanks, especially meds, have bad HE pen.
misty wing
The BP, Tiger I and T29 are better than the trash smasher imo
frigid compass
@misty wing hm yes so much better than that trash smasher
carmine pulsar
Smasher is just a no skill tank
frigid compass
Smasher has 2x the Tiger I's KDR
misty wing
@frigid compass I'd rather play any of those tanks than the Smasher and I'd rather face the smasher than any of those tanks tho
The Smasher is literally so weak to go against from my experience and I don't like derps in general
solid gate
T20 needs better turret armor. I think it’s still a nice tank to me. Though I am not doing high damage with it. It’s too paper to go rushing in. Really have to think with it and time shots.
frigid compass
@misty wing then you only have seen dumb smashers
misty wing
Idk I've literally never had a problem facing them
I think someone said this before, but an OP tank is only annoying if it has armour
solid gate
Smasher does have armor in places mate. T20 can bounce off of it with AP.
frigid compass
an OP tank is only annoying if the player is good
misty wing
Nah the Foch 155 is annoying no matter who's playing it. Also the smasher is paper
solid gate
Smasher is not as paper as KV-2 though. But the biggest problem is the accuracy it has.
Of course if Meadsy or someone says EVERYONE wants a Smasher that’s wrong. I didn’t buy it the first time and I will never buy it. I’m just not interested in it.
frigid compass
@solid gate Smasher has godlike accuracy for a 152
solid gate
Indeed. Yet 1 missed my T-34-1 on Alpenstadt once. Of course that and T-34-2 are like the shortest mediums from what I can tell. And I once thought T20 was the smallest in height. Nope. Not anymore.
Anyway that T20 battle I was complaining about I messed up on 2 shots in. One I fired too late that was meant for Löwe side. Hit building instead. Also missed a shot on Smasher. Should have pulled up a bit further then aimed in for that part of the turret instead of overshooting. Of course when I did pull up further he was turning his turret to look at me. I had to turn and hope I could get behind building in time. Luckily he did hit the building.
solid gate
The smasher is OP. Reload, accuracy, alpha, armour, mobility, HP, everything is OP.
And don’t get me started on how broken the su-100y is...
open topaz
Disappointed in Foch 155👎👎👎
abstract pelican
does anyone think the Kancer Panzer 70's reload should be shortened
or should it be longer
solid gate
Any Japonse line tips? (I'm on the t5 need tips for what's coming)
crude gorge
su 100y broken?
I’m certain it is not broken, it has like no armor apart from that gun manlet which could give you troll bounces sometimes
solid gate
That’s a load of bull. If you don’t aim for 30 seconds when shooting at its front, it will bounce. And even if you aim, 50% of the time it will still bounce
The entire front is an impenetrable mantlet
crude gorge
uhhh
solid gate
And you can never flank it cause it camps in the back and autoaim yeets people for 500 dmg every 10 seconds
crude gorge
reload is actually roughly 15 seconds but ok
solid gate
Cool. Every 15 seconds
rigid thunder
the SU-100Y is pretty balanced, the gun makes it pretty fun to play, but that's about it
crude gorge
you should have no problems penning the su100y's front if you know the weakness and aim carefully, the gun manlet doesn't cover the entire front
it is actually easy to pen through it
oh and the camo rating isnt that good anyways
wraith summit
Chimera
Tier VIII British Premium Medium Tank
solid trench
Wow...rng is really ready for the event...in 4 days 37%, 35% and today 20% wr amazing
thick trout
And what is the common factor there? 🤔
solid trench
New event soon based on victories
thick trout
Or maybe it's just the player instead of something that hasn't begun yet 🤦♀️
solid trench
Type 62 or Blaze 🤔
dapper panther
type
regal zealot
Type 62. Blaze isn’t worth it imo.
Reasons why the Blaze isn’t worth it:
- It’s got no armor whatsoever (gun mantlet is too small to bounce shots
- Absence of a fully rotatable turret
- Worst DPM on a tier VII TD
solid trench
Thx all
dapper panther
as I said earlier, with some addition: it is like 183, without the 183 gun
terrible mobility and armor, unreliable 122mm soviet gun
violet stream
Any thoughts on the Crusader before I work any further on it?
dapper panther
decent light
brave glen
Meh at best @violet stream
Leopard dominates at tier 5 and there's nothing you can do to counter it
Leopard buff was a tad excessive
violet stream
I have trouble fighting them in the Crusader, but I always manage to come out on top.
clever ferry
should I get type 62 or type 59
bright folio
Depends on what you like to drive.
narrow shadow
Neither. Type 59 has terrible gun and Type 62 is a T7, you don't want to buy a T7 light tank at this time @clever ferry
violet stream
They both seem like trash to me, either that or everyone who has them suck.
solid gate
Type 62 is far from trash
rigid thunder
The type 62's a good tank, but with tier 7 being affected by wg's amazing balance department, using a low pen lt/mt at this time is a pretty bad idea
neon comet
Type 62 has really nice heat pen
visual jolt
Yeah the HEAT can slice through most armor
solid gate
Is the progetto 65 fun to play ? I free xped the line to P.43 bis
quasi mirage
@solid gate it got nerfed pretty bad but the standard B is still really OP .
solid gate
but is the progetto still good ?
quasi mirage
its decent I think but just go grind thestandard b
solid gate
Pantera isnt bad either
Ok as soon as I’m done with the Sheridan I’ll go get that standard
quasi mirage
panthera is pretty meh and highly overrated
sweet peak
@solid gate i have proggetto and it is not that great i reccomend you to go on russian meds or british ones and panttera is best tank in eu research treee
solid gate
I hate russian meds
And the british ones are meh
bright folio
Different strokes for different folks.
viral lodge
FV215B vs VK 72 vs E100?
solid gate
FV215B I’d say
Slow, heavy and armored tanks are having a bad time
regal zealot
Hmm... an E 100-Maus Combo...
sweet tree
Original version in Ww2 would have this turret right?
solid gate
Original ver had no turret, they could only build a hull but the British took it
What if WG gave E 100 the third turret, it looks like an E 50 turret but more armored
hasty isle
Ru251 ?
bright folio
Personally, I'd rather the E 100 retain its current turret and the 15 cm gun, to keep it from being a maus with a different turret location.
solid gate
The third turret model would be more of a Tiger II upgraded to tier X
Add PT-76
Add T-100LT, Rheinmetall Panzerwagen and the WZ-131-2 line
Add also the T92 with standard 76mm gun
Then maybe can added the T64 and XM-1 Abrams 😏
prime vale
@solid gate like in that other game?
gritty wasp
WG needs to buff kv1s shots penetration(it is only120) and make gun that researchable for 20k a bit cheaper (like17 or 15
solid gate
KV1S pen 120??? Are u crazy? Mine have 175mm pen 😂
He’s talking about the stock gun. This gun gave me nightmares back then
sweet peak
fv 4005 op is
noble geyser
type 62 is borderline OP but k @violet stream
tardy talon
Type 62 is insane lol
livid yacht
The pen is good on the KV-1S but the reload is painful
17 sec for 400 dmg like holy crap
harsh kayak
Will Japanese heavies ever come
livid yacht
N
O
narrow shadow
Jap heavies are boring and not gonan come ever thanks god
lyric oriole
Don't hold your breath
narrow shadow
I believe WG said they will never come
lyric oriole
There has been a lot of "Never's" by Wargaming before
harsh kayak
What makes u say that heavies won’t come
lyric oriole
One of which was Foch 155 was never gonna get an auto loader, another being that the FV4005 line was never gonna come...
harsh kayak
Imagine another Kv2 (O-I) but with more protection
lyric oriole
I honestly think the Japanese heavies wouldn't be a big issue given we have Hitskins in blitz
frigid compass
Hitskins basically nerf the effectiveness of armor against anyone who has a brain
harsh kayak
Lol
lyric oriole
I just want O-I experimental with the 12.8cm Anti-Submarine gun
harsh kayak
Lol
frigid compass
its one of the reasons things like the Smasher can go lob HE into tanks with reliable penetration rates
harsh kayak
Smasher getting nerf
frigid compass
prob not because of popularity
harsh kayak
If to many people complain
frigid compass
wg will probably just treat it like Dracula and Helsing where they sell it here and there for easy money