Paper tank with good damage but slightly trollish armour
#vehicles-discussion
bright sphinx
You guys prefer armor or penetration?
Like a rock solid tank but terrible dpm
or a paper tank with good damage capability
iron egret
Repost 🗿
rigid thunder
I'd take neither
And for a stock ST-I, you don't. Just play it as a generic heavy and sidescrape, but don't expect good results out of it. With the upgraded turret though, you can go hulldown pretty well or work some ridgelines with 8 degrees of gun depression
narrow shadow
You don't play stock ST1. You need the turret free xped at least and BL9
bright folio
Preferably, you'd have the BL-9 from the IS-3 already.
iron egret
Aaaaa now i regret spending FXP on lootboxes so bad
rigid thunder
lmao imagine using a tier 7 HT gun on a tier 9 HT
iron egret
But with faster reload?
bright folio
sad stock M103 noises
rigid thunder
yeah, but it's less accurate
latent mauve
What's a good tier 8 premium tank do you guys reccomend (the one that are purchasable at all times)
ancient iron
So... what are the worst stock grind tanks in the game?
dapper panther
Leo pt a (moving target practice with stock modules)
Cent 7/1 (3-4 modules in one line)
STA (155mm pen with stock gun)
ancient iron
okay so then, don't burn my Free XP on the Cent since I'll need to use it on upgrades lol
dapper panther
indeed, it has the worst module layout ever (topmodules highlighted)
ancient iron
I suppose the one upside is the top gun is only 100 XP .-.
bright folio
Anybody remember when the Churchill I had 5 different guns and 2 turrets to grind?
coarse lava
I sold my AMX 30 B for the predator UM
bright folio
Bruh
coarse lava
Lol I was stupid
calm inlet
why
viral lodge
.-.
calm inlet
are you serious?
i mean, you can get the 30B back but you’ll need 7500 gold again @coarse lava
coarse lava
I really wanted the predator though
I would just watch videos for 160 days
And the AMX 30 b sucks and I got it for free
calm inlet
one of my favorite Tier 10 mediums at the moment. fast as a Leopard 1, got a turret somewhat like the STB-1. Pays for that with its DPM but the gun is pretty good in everything else
not in USD
coarse lava
I do like it but I wanted to try a different tank
iron egret
viral lodge
Pancake probably isn’t in tier 9-10 so 30 B is outside their skill/knowledge range is my guess
calm inlet
most likely
trim burrow
Dude the 30b is so much fun
coarse lava
It’s that other tanks just out class the 30 B like the T22 medium the VK 90 and other tanks
trim burrow
I can slightly understand selling it.......but for a predator.......
viral lodge
VK 90 (rare) and T22 also this guy probably is trying to brawl in the 30 B is my guess if those are what they are dealing with
trim burrow
30b is not a brawler lmao
brisk pecan
Char2C needs to be in blitz
trim burrow
Its basically meant to be played like a light tank
coarse lava
Well I’m not trying to brawl I circle people and every battle I do at least 2000 damage
It’s that the AMX 30 B has nothing fun and special
But I regret buying the predator already
rigid thunder
The 30b is great because not only does it have light tank mobility, but it also has a strong turret with 10 degrees of gun depression
the dpm is garbage, but with decent handling and that mobility it really doesn't hold the tank back at all
glass otter
When are they going to buff the M48? It's not relevant anymore when the STB-1 replaced it
Give it a better turret and a small DPM buff
lyric oriole
Patton needs to become a Pseudo Heavy like E 50 M, if it had a hull slightly weaker than T110E5 it would be fine especially given Patton isn't overly fast
karmic field
and please buff M60 while you're at it, but more to mobility than to armor 🙂
livid yacht
It's already better than M48
wild gulch
What is the best combination for equipment for Nashorn? All guides are for WoT not WoT blitz
glass otter
Well it's a upgraded version of the M48 it should have a little bit more of speed @livid yacht
Also give the M60 a better credit %
glass crypt
@wild gulch gun rammer obv as u have enough pen for almost everything u face, improved mods to survive big boi guns, camo net obv cuz a spotted nas is 60% of the time a dead nas, gun laying drive and stab for noice aim time, engine accelerator cuz u speedy boi 🦐
oh also improved assembly if tthat wasn't obv 🍤
glass otter
I totally agree with you it need something to be relevant again @lyric oriole
livid yacht
@glass otter and the IS-8 is the upgraded version of the IS-7 which is one tier above🤷🏻♂️
wild gulch
Thanks
glass otter
@livid yachtthe IS8 Is technically an IS5,just modified🤷♂️
peak wolf
I have problem, should I go to Grille 15 tank or to VK 72.01 K?
dapper panther
VK100: firepower over superheavy armor
Maus: armor over firepower and agiility
VK72: somewhere in between
peak wolf
So VK 72?
dapper panther
the tank's relative lack of agility will punish you for poorly chosen locations. you can easily get away with grille though
peak wolf
Kk thank you
dapper panther
while Grille's turret is a HE magnet
peak wolf
Well it's a paper
dapper panther
in WoT paper is a synonym for "HE magnet" 😉
peak wolf
Yep, so I'll go to Grille
Thank you for help 😅
dapper panther
also, HE onto the grille turret-->90% chance to take out the captain and the loader
100% chance to damage gun
increased loading time, dispersion and aiming time
peak wolf
At least have good accuracy, dpm and damage on shot ( I know that from gameplays )
solid gate
Lowe is useless now
peak wolf
Lol why
solid gate
I make more damage with T34
And lowe has useless armor
peak wolf
Maybe he got nerf?
solid gate
It neeedsss a bufffd
dapper panther
löwe is fine as it is, it has great armor and a sniper gun
peak wolf
Use sidescrape and u're perfect machine
solid gate
Wut
dapper panther
if you struggle to play with löwe, you are clearly doing it wrong
solid gate
Sidescrape more like wide side hit by low calibers
peak wolf
Maybe... I have only 17 battles on it so
dapper panther
sounds like you are overangling during sidescrape
solid gate
You cant side scrape
dull drum
What do yall think of black prince
peak wolf
It seems legit
dull drum
It's my 1st t7 so I'm thinking how should I play it
dapper panther
you mean Troll Prince? 😄
get the topgun and turret ASAP, then you can melt your enemies by DPM
(regardless of the 160alpha)
dull drum
I keep dying 2 Draculas
dapper panther
of course you do, dracs are exception
peak wolf
From all tiers?
dull drum
Sure
dapper panther
tier1: Ms-1
tier2: Tetrarch
tier3: SU-76I
tier4: Hetzer
tier5: Pz.4 Hydr.
tier6: Pz.4 S
tier7: Vindicator
tier8: RU251
tier9: K91
tier10: Chieftain Mk.6
lyric oriole
Tetrarch was always bad, Pz. 38 H was better
solid gate
Tetrarch used to be decent. Like a tiny tier 2 Hellcat.
viral lodge
@dapper panther is the vindicator a fun tank? I get mixed responses, I have 30k gold rn so buying it wouldn’t hurt too bad
wild gulch
Is there any place to suggest tanks to add? I thought I saw a place for it
dapper panther
@lyric oriole maybe, but that's my personal fav, by design
@viral lodge think it as a nerfed SU152, with front skirt
viral lodge
How much worse is the gun?
dapper panther
viral lodge
Yikes, sounds like a challenge, I think I’ll grab it
Challenges are fun
Thanks for the info
shut steppe
grim forum
Cover lower plate if you can. Use cover. Move back and forth so they cant hit the hatch.
Or better yet stay medium range. You got an accurate high DPM gun
Also upgraded turret is worth getting
calm inlet
hot take
fleet berryBOT
jupiterbeyi#0052 has been warned.
solid gate
Leopard pt a suck
only can block damage on the gun and side scrapping
E 100 or Maus??
karmic field
You aren't supposed to bounce shots in the leopards. They are supposed to be mobile snipers, and DPM rushers when needed
solid gate
but yknow when we spot use leo pt a....the light blub will come after 3 sec being spotted and you get flanked from everywhere
or so the teammate will rage on me if I ain't spot
karmic field
Passive. Better to deal little damage and only shoot when safe than shooting when it's not safe
solid gate
a question then....how to safe spotting?
karmic field
Stick to bushes
dont shoot when you are spotting, as you will get lit up. You lose all camo when you shoot
solid gate
Improved sight or camouflage net?
karmic field
For a leopard, I would say camouflage net. Also, steer clear of tanks that can outspot you, and make sure to avoid the euro meds at all costs
those things WILL murder you, no matter what
solid gate
euro meds?
karmic field
Standard B, Progetto 65
karmic field
I like sticking more with heavies, personally, but depends on match and enemy tanks
Think of the Leopard PTA and Leopard 1 as a RHM that wants me move around a lot
As in, you have no armor, but your gun is glorious
solid gate
alright
karmic field
so you want to hide, stick to bushes, move from cover to cover, and use DPM to burst isolated enemies
karmic field
dont get trapped in the middle
solid gate
like a fight for spot place
karmic field
you should not be that guy
Like I said, the Leopard is not a medium. It's a light tank
brisk pecan
solid gate
alright stay calm and keep spotting...got it
brisk pecan
Should be in blitz
karmic field
Do you want an invitation to the training server run by some of the most senior community members?
brisk pecan
yes
karmic field
Is that an actual yes, or is that a fake yes?
brisk pecan
Yes
solid gate
lol yes
karmic field
feel free to ask questions in here; they will be answered
solid gate
alright thank you
solid gate
swift trench
Is it a good tank
lyric oriole
It's decent, a pretty good Frontline vehicle
prime wigeon
You can just be added to a training server?
prime wigeon
Didnt know that lol
karmic field
It's a discord server, run by Frostbite, Crusader, and DarkMagicianGirl
prime wigeon
U mind sending me that I kinda need some tips
prime wigeon
Appreciated
young basin
I'd like to get in to the Blitz Academy please
calm inlet
oh i gotcha
can’t post it here but PM me if you want it. ill send it to those who have already posted some interest
woeful thistle
Can the liechtracktor be a collectible tank
hardy sparrow
@karmic field I'd like to join this server
Dm me the invite pls gotta go find ish some hw
karmic field
sure thing
north musk
Make it happen guys they might see it
simple thorn
raw monolith
Rng... naaah dosent exist😂( shot in rhm with the durp)
solid gate
@raw monolith lol look at the aim circle
raw monolith
@solid gate I know that's the point😂
dark basin
Yes please @north musk
bright folio
Tier 6 afterwards would just be full of togs post event. I love it.
misty wing
Why do Chinese meds get ammoracked so much
pastel drum
@misty wing because they are made in china, duh
abstract pelican
highest quality
regal zealot
@karmic field could I get an invite to said server?
calm inlet
yeah
naive jolt
Best tier x tank for tourneys? Any vehicle class.
narrow shadow
IS4, T22, STB1, FV215b
pastel drum
Foch 155
blazing spire
i got 10k gold from the event, what do you guys think i should do with it?
carmine pulsar
Save it for the ATGMS.
dapper panther
^
plucky summit
Or a potentially broken premmy they thought the price was good for
latent mauve
I'm thinking of getting the superpershing, but what do you guys think
dapper panther
sluggish for a med
addition plates on turret and hullfront make low caliber guns to bounce ~90% of the times
you can even bounce the 120mm guns if angled properly
the big ones (150-155mm) will pen you anyways
lyric oriole
As a whole there are better choices
woeful pumice
raven spade
hollow moth
Why the F%#$ Pz. B2 have a special Match Maker? This tank NEVER goes to tier 5 battles and it's a tier 4
quasi mirage
Coz its pen is garbage?
hollow moth
Kv-220 bt have the same problem and isn't rare see tier 6 battles
It's the same of a Pz. B2, strong armor + fast shoot + good alpha for its own tier + super slow + low pen
They have the same characteristics but Pz. B2 only go to tier 4 battles and kv 220 bt can go to tier 6 battles
That's just non-sense
rigid thunder
The Pz B2 has much less armour tier-for-tier than the 220, with the recent pen buffs to low tier tanks the Pz B2 is losing its effectiveness anyways
dapper panther
@short flame cuz it's a Nerfed Kv-3 hull with stock Kv-1 turret
quasi mirage
B2 just has 60 all around
dapper panther
according to the small description it was the KV1's prototype
Historical Reference
Development of KV-220 on the basis of the KV heavy tank started in the summer of 1940. A prototype was built on December 5. Unlike other KV modifications, the tank featured an elongated hull, additional support roller, enhanced armor (100 mm), and a new turret with the 85 mm F-30 gun. In the fall of 1941, production of the KV-1 was discontinued. The vehicle received the mass-produced KV turret and was sent to the frontlines.
exceptions strengthen the rule 😄
solid gate
Panther 2 or Tiger 2?
dapper panther
also, prototypes are usually the expectation, while final products are the reality
solid gate
@dapper panther where’s that from?
rigid thunder
the KV-220 was meant to replace the KV-1
rigid thunder
Because the KV-220 prototype, with only its hull finished, was sent out to the front lines with a standard mass-produced KV-1 turret fitted with a 76mm.
dapper panther
in KV3's description:
"According to some sources, in the fall of 1941, the vehicle was equipped with a serial KV turret and sent to the front."
that's why WG dumped a crappy gun along with the stock KV1 turret on it, to keep the balance
idk
rigid thunder
Valentine II
bright folio
The SU-100y used to have preferential mm iirc.
marsh turret
FV215b 183 is the worst tank in the game (7-10 tier)
And thats my only 10 tier😭😭😭😭
marsh turret
Same as other TDs but this is worse
hollow moth
My jagdpanzer need 3-4 shoots to kill a tank
It takes 45 seconds - 1 minute to full kill,
tough dune
183 for a first tier X? Lol
viral lodge
183 is probably the worst first tier X except maybe the Fv4005 which will be my first lol.
rare horizon
is7 is the best first tank i think
tanks like grille , 183 , 4005 and other tanks which has weak armor (or none at all) need more experience in my opinion and the tank line is also challenging 🤔
bright folio
Compared to other T10 tds, The FV183 has a mega-long reload, best pen is 326mm(every other t10 td has closer to 367mm prammo pen at least), worse dpm than every non-american td, garbage gun handling, 5 degrees Gd, 4th worst mobility(the T110E4 has better terrain resistance and pwr/weight but worse traverse), little to no armor, worst camo, high cost to run + bad credit coefficient, and bad view range(not that view range matters that much for a t10 td).
Among T10 tds, the tank also has the worst average WR (49.45%), worst avg dmg(1963), Third worst dmg ratio(1.34), Worst avg kills(0.85), Worst avg spots(0.41(second worst is 0.53)), second worst survival rate(36.18%), and the second most players(8078).
The only advantages that the tank carries are good standard pen, high alpha, 242mm pen HESH and 101mm pen HE, a 45 degree aiming arc to either side, and a good enrichment boost.
Interestingly, the two T10 TDs that are generally regarded to be the worst are the most played.
lyric oriole
Honestly the reload is pretty short for how much damage it does
ancient patrol
Buff su101 so garbage tank
dusky stone
@short flame shooting 2 times a target in 183 is hard (who’s going to stay a sitting target for you after being smashed for 1000+)
solid gate
If kv 2 was a td
hoary steppe
@rare horizon
IS-4 is the best tank for beginners, but still the IS-7 has a better branch... so i would agree that he is best for the first tier 10
solid gate
Is maus a good beginner?
hoary steppe
I don't think
solid gate
To bad, I wasted 2 years on that and I don't regret it
hoary steppe
you wasted 2 years on what?
solid gate
The maus
hoary steppe
up to tier 10 you need 3 months, with normal play
solid gate
...
solid gate
I guess it's just me that suks xc
Skill cap?
Oh
Ik how to angel the armor
I angel the hull one way, and the turret a little more
rare horizon
well @solid gate the playstyle is really a game changer some people go for a tank like leopard 1 or st like amx 50b even as the first tank and get a good stats out of them but it's really rare , so generally we think Russian heavies are the best for starters , now someone may go for any other tank and be ok with it😊
solid gate
Bc I wanted to know how long it takes for other tanks
2500
Not that much
I was afk for 3 years
Wait, I'm not used to thinking
rare horizon
hahaha I'm really confused tbh
solid gate
My acc is 4 years old, I was afk for 1 and a half years
Then grinded the maus line for 1-2 month from teir VI
I don't like lights
I like heavys, but I'm better in meds
lyric oriole
VK 72 🙃
rare horizon
@lyric oriole just wanted to mention
lyric oriole
Don't mention me unless you have a question
solid gate
K
rare horizon
e100 and maus really need experience cuz no matter what you do you will get hit if you want to shoot cuz of the weakspots in front of the turret but not on vk72
rare horizon
I meant mentioning the tank not yourself sir or madam😊
solid gate
Oh okie
lyric oriole
My statement stands.
rare horizon
which server are you guys anyway?
lyric oriole
Not really, go through the Jpanther 2, Ferdinand is garbage currently
rare horizon
no jg is great both the tanks itself and the branch
solid gate
Jpanther is paper
rare horizon
almost all of them are paper but they are DPM lords
lyric oriole
Jpanther II is actually stronger than Ferdinand, it's More mobile and the Superstructure will block most shells if hulldown
lyric oriole
200mm of flat armor in tier 8 with screaming weakspots doesn't do anything
solid gate
The only reason I went with the maus was bc I liked it
Is there any ball shapes meds that are good for hills?
rare horizon
m48 and stb are the hill monsters
stb is more powerful to be exact
solid gate
What about the is and obj series?
Not the td obj*
IS isn’t a med nor are it’s turrets “ball shaped”
Wait really?
rare horizon
t62 is also good for hills but nothing beats stb1 at the moment
solid gate
I'll take a look at them
Teir 10 btw
Is7 and is4 have horrible gun depression with frontally rounded turrets but are both slow
O
rare horizon
because although the depression is increased on t62 but the form of body is in a way that you should almost go up the hill to be able to shoot the other side but not in stb
karmic field
You are thinking the STA-1, which is a tier 8. The STB-1 is a tier 10
rare horizon
where should we ask if we want to request a reconsidering about a legendary camoflage? the wz113 lucky is realllly ugly esp that red fish😭
the Chinese tier 10 TD
look aat it :( what is that :((( it's a big tank it could be really better
narrow shadow
It'S also one of the 2 tanks I know of that has a spaced armour plate with no actual armour hitbox behind it, so when hitting that spot, u have to hit the tank's back armour from the inside to do dmg
rare horizon
and almost everytime they hit me in that spot my ammo rack gets damaged
solid gate
Nice camo.
solid gate
,,lucky"
karmic field
Jg.Pz E100 is an outstanding tank in pubs, and in tourney, given the right player and map, it is fantastic. E-100 is another tank that can do work in pubs, but it can't really do anything in tourneys due to the weak turret
E 50 M is god tier, yes, and Maus IS slightly outdated, but it still exists. Leopard 1 is kinda off-meta, but if the player is good, the tank is fantastic
like I've had 3 games 3500+ damage (max being 4850) in it just in the lsat 2 days, and those are only first classes
tough raven
@karmic field ok i See now that you are playing on the na Server, I don't know what you are playing there in the tournaments. But if someone here on the eu Server would ask to pick a e100 or Jg in a tournament the other guy would ask him if he is ok in his mind or something like that.
karmic field
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, NA is.... Different meta. Tier 10 most of them aren't really meta in tourneys, but in pubs Jag is a favorite
Tier 6 and 8 they are hard in though
misty wing
Why does no one talk about the E50M, it's insanely strong
tough raven
The only Germans that are realy rare used here are Maus and E50m. Maus only because you need long time to kill the tank and e50 because you can push very well other meds but since the t62a buff he is also outdated.
misty wing
Also the 121 takes a ridiculous amount of module damage atm, every shot knocks out something almost
E50M still destroys every other med in a 1v1 and is stupidly good as a tier 9 bully
narrow shadow
@misty wing Oh does it now ? Only if it can ram the enemy properly. Also, that's all it's insanely good at. 1v1ing. Put it in a general game situation and T62 and STB will do better in 99% cases.
misty wing
@narrow shadow even without ramming you can beat every other med with 50%+ hp left, easy. Trust me I 1v1d several really good players in training room
tough raven
@misty wing the thing it's not an 1vs1 game
misty wing
It's not bad outside of 1v1s either
narrow shadow
I find it difficult to believe you would be able to kill a good T62 driver in a 1v1 so easily. I believe you will have harder time penning him in cqb, plus he has more DPM @misty wing
misty wing
E50M has enough gun depression to hit upper plate when facehugging, while T62A has to back up to go for lower plate
Which then opens him up to another ram
narrow shadow
I'm not so sure about that
misty wing
Then either you've never played E50M before, or I'm a super good brawler
narrow shadow
I have both E50M and T62 and I'm much more comfortable taking the 1v1 in a T62. I'm not talking just about the cqb, also about the positioning and stuff
misty wing
They didn't believe me either, until I destroyed them in both obj 140 and T-62A
The T-62 would also have to waste time aiming, whereas all the E50M has to do is shoot into the weak upper plate
split sentinel
Is the IS-7 any good now ( i asked this question about a month ago, sorry if you are seeing me again. I haven't played in 2 years now)
karmic field
Nope it’s left the meta
raw monolith
Just finished 1 EPIC game with rhm... see something wrong???😂😂😂
Nope
Only 1 time by the Falcon that rams me,tracks absorbed ap rounds like gods😂
kind bluff
Excuse me why do you have more blocked damage than dealt damage @raw monolith
raw monolith
😂😂 Sniping with the durp gun 😂 ( I was eating some snacks ) @kind bluff
iron egret
When you search "Blitz T110E4" on youtube and you see "Top 5 Worst Tanks in WoT Blitz"
wise moth
T110E4 is actually good tho
iron egret
Yea but its only better than the T30 by a miniscule
wicked oracle
I’d adore it if it had a bit more gun depression
wise moth
The thing that people don’t realize about E4, is that its not like T30 in being a hull down heavy tank-esque thing. It’s more like a 268 in that it’s primary role is sniping, but the turret also gives it the flexibility to brawl when needed, and also makes sniping more convenient since you don’t have to rotate the hull and break camo and gun handling
tight iris
Is the turret fully traversable?
dapper panther
yes, it has a 180° arch (<<90° | 90°>>)
green inlet
Is the progetto 46 worth the 15k?
noble stirrup
Are any of the 4 VIII tanks fun
quasi mirage
Well its 12.5k
sharp bolt
@green inlet it's definitely worth 12.5k
narrow shadow
Isn't it like a smaller pantera with worse pen ? Why pay so much gold when the Pantera is there?
livid yacht
I wouldn't spend this much gold for any T8🤷🏻♂️
green inlet
@sharp bolt cheers
sharp bolt
It worked out for me at £37 but you can get it for slightly cheaper
rare horizon
@green inlet honestly i prefer the enrichment of pantera than buying progetto if I'm looking for a premium auto reloader :)
livid yacht
Higher burst DMG in less time and better single shot DPM
That's it
eager pine
Also less armor than P44, which is sad
livid yacht
People will buy it because of the hype on the PC version
eager pine
Well. I started off 0-4 in that tank. Even doing 2k damage
azure tendon
I have a question for y’all, and I want an honest answer: Why do y’all like 268 so much? Why do you think it’s good, why is it a must have? I ground it awhile ago, and absolutely hated it. No armor (occasional bounces of course) mediocre traverse, and absolutely no gun velocity. I would prefer Jageroo over this any day. Please tell me why it’s a good tank and how to use it.
zealous anchor
It's camo is good, and the penetration is superior, I think it's DPM is not that bad either
haughty loom
Progetto 46 is selling at 15k gold with clip of 3. Shoot fast 2.5 seconds but DPM lower then my p44, literary not faster than p44. I feel reluctant to buy
dapper panther
it seems that Prog64 has credit coeff of 161%
haughty loom
Anyone already bought, please comment, thanks
dapper panther
@haughty loom Panthera is better with overall stats
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livid yacht
@azure tendon
It is fast, has a pretty reliable gun, good gun dep and if you use it the armor is strong as well
It is at least good in everything exept shell velocity but since you shouldn't play it as a sniper that's not a problem anymore
solid trench
Progetto 46 is better than pantera....WG will make sure of this (rng, mm, etc)
narrow shadow
Progetto is about equal with Pantera, but why pay 12.5k for a tank that is so similar and about equal to a tech tree tank ? It's like buying mutz lmao
hushed shadow
There is. Better reload between shells, alpha and credit making, and some gun handling
Not exactly no reason
narrow shadow
Except Pantera actually has better gun handling with like 0.2s worse aim time
narrow shadow
Pantera is faster and has a much better pen on the gun, so I'd vote for the pantera there
hushed shadow
180 is not terrible
narrow shadow
It kinda is, it's what the lowest pen values for T8 med are
hushed shadow
Lol ugly? No
regal zealot
The lowest is 175
narrow shadow
You have 2 groups of T8 meds, 175-181 pen guns and then 200+ pen guns. @regal zealot
regal zealot
I know that
livid yacht
T69: am I a joke to you ?
regal zealot
Wait, the T69 has worse pen by 2mm?
livid yacht
Yeah lol
lyric oriole
Laughs in Stock Centurion
regal zealot
Ripperoni
At least it has HEAT for prammo
Who even talks about stock? We’re all talking about their top guns
lyric oriole
I mean technically It fits into both categories with the 17Pdr and the Type A
regal zealot
The T-44 has a pitiful 85mm, which is almost useless in tier VIII/IX
lyric oriole
It has useable armor at least
dapper panther
@lyric oriole could it be that the VK90 has credit coeff of 195%?
regal zealot
Run vertical stabilizers
glass relic
Refined gun will help too..
regal zealot
Not accuracy, but the dispersion values will not bloom that badly with the vertical stabilizer when brawling
glass relic
At least it helps you whenever you're trying to snapshots
livid yacht
Shoot on the move
It is russian( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
regal zealot
If you want accuracy, run the refined gun, but the IS-5 is not meant to snipe
dry nest
Im not a heavy camper
glass relic
Well both equipment helps, but I'd take refined gun for my IS5
regal zealot
Go for gun laying drive and vertical stabilizers then
glass relic
Yeah it should give you couple of seconds less before going back to cover.
dry nest
Thanks for help i will try what you guys said
glass relic
Also positioned yourself into a good and comfortable position, so you won't have to worry about your tank hull and positioning that much.
bright folio
The IS-5’s gun handling is a lesson in praying to Stalin.
glass relic
Who didn't pray will get punished is that so?
livid yacht
And the Cent Defender
We have a russian heavy, american TD, britain med so I hope we'll got a german light defender like an RU Defender or something like that
glass relic
And then French car defender?
But it would be interesting to have an RU with reactor engine.
lyric oriole
An AMX AC 48 Defender would become a True AMX AC 48
glass relic
But will the back auto cannon turret will be removed so they can put an engine there or?
It's a weird... Thing to have that thing.. behind in the rear of the tank, but funny to look at.
wanton spear
I love SP1C so much
hollow moth
Maybe they will hear us now 🙂
wanton spear
I love it so much until i learned how to not sucks in it :V
opal kraken
hello everyone. I have a question. Which tanks should you expect for sale in the coming weeks?
rare horizon
has anyone noticed standard b has HESH??? :/
hushed shadow
Everyone has
rigid thunder
that's part of what makes it op
rare horizon
and progetto doesn't???
which is weird that a tier 10 tank with the same caliber has a weaker gun than it's tier ix😐
rigid thunder
which is why the standard is more op tier for tier
rare horizon
hmmm i wonder how it went through the test server , or it was on porpose
something tells me they wanted to give it to progetto but at the last minute they got it wrong 😆
winter siren
so im gonna bought a tier VI tank now
choices are MT25 or VK2801
any suggestion?
oh, a curveball is to buy emil nowo
oh okay
deep ivy
Ik this isnt the right chat for it, but every effective vehicle build by allied countries got rebuild by the germans so they could find out just how they can be effective. KV-1, KV-2 and M41 Walker Bulldog are some examples
winter siren
i'll stop the nashorn tree i guess
crude gorge
which tank you at right now
woeful thistle
When I didn’t have enough credits for Tiger 2 my rhm borsig: chuckles I’m in danger
next solstice
im grinding to the Jageroo
tulip sail
@deep ivy they weren't really rebuilt just captured slightly modified and put back into service although the m41 was bought and modified
bright folio
I just recently got the Jageru. It's fun to bounce shells and then return fire with that massive gun.
umbral jungle
Pz B2 any thoughts?
tulip sail
It's not as good as it used to be
stark owl
best t8?
tulip sail
The one that fits your style or the wz 120 ft
stark owl
@tulip sail 252u has joined the chat
tulip sail
And is taken out by the wz
tulip sail
Yeah and just because you can beat something doesn't mean it's not op
bright folio
The Object 252 is somewhat op. The WZ-120-1G FT is broken.
tulip sail
Personally the 252 is far easier to deal with than the wz 120 ft
bright folio
Exactly.
tulip sail
Now some of that is I main meds and tds so if I dont feel like dealing with it I just dont and find another target
narrow shadow
T34 or neither
sharp bolt
@solid gate how many tanks fo you have that are in that bundle
neat nimbus
Should I go for Japanese line?
narrow shadow
Yes
neat nimbus
Any speculation until what tier you research the jps tds
narrow shadow
Screw the TD, STB is OP, u want that
neat nimbus
Unless some updates nerf it
wild gulch
The St Emil. What’s the best equipment for it?
calm inlet
Rammer | Defense System | Camo Net
Gun-Laying Drive | Improved Assembly | Engine Accelerator
Vertical Stabilizer | Toolbox | Delivery System
spark marsh
TKS Tankette when?
calm inlet
what is that
spark marsh
A Polish Mini-Tank
wild gulch
Thanks @calm inlet
carmine pulsar
Basically a tankette
valid lodge
Nothing on that tank looks like it belongs
livid forum
Idk why they don't seem that small anymore in real life lol
solid gate
It took out a pz4 before
frigid compass
Tankette is NEVER coming in wotb
Reason:they purged all variety from low tiers lol
if it doesnt handle the same like every other low tier it aint coming
tulip sail
I feel like it would be an even weaker FT AC
cloud rivet
I think the IS 4 is better than the TKS 20
misty wing
What are the names of the tier 7-9 Japanese TD s
solid gate
@tulip sail nah if anything it’s gun is still better than FT
twilit willow
what is the most accurate vehicle in the game?
wise moth
@twilit willow E-25
tulip sail
@solid gate its alpha would probably be half that of the FT AC and the FT AC would have higher pen
Although its roof might be able to mak up some of that
solid gate
FTs gun is pretty dam short plus the 37mm? Was that the cal? Isn’t really that much of a difference the tankette was able to punch through a pz 4
tulip sail
In pen yes the 20mm could punch 40mm while the 47 could go through 69mm
solid gate
Idk what type of rounds the tankette used although they were a pain to fight against in the early years
tulip sail
Regular ap iirc I'd have to check when I got home
spark marsh
The TKS Tankette could be added as a Collector Vehicle,or Premium Vehicle
Not as a Tech Tree Vehicle though
tulip sail
Tbh I think the tks would be a better fit for wt
solid gate
If it came to Blitz as a collector or prem, it better be a free tank.
spark marsh
Me too,maybe as a Event Reward,or anything similar,on the normal wot it costs 5 gold
tulip sail
It would probably be a bundle with premium time or gold
solid gate
What should I buy with 30 dollars
compact wraith
Food
solid gate
I mean tanks or save them
carmine pulsar
Save for the ATGMS tanks.
loud idol
tulip sail
The atgms are free why would you spend money on researching them
glass relic
On gold to convert it into free exp..
hollow moth
regal zealot
@misty wing Japanese TDs (according to WoT forums):
Tier VII: Chi-Ri Casemate
Tier VIII: Ho-Ri II
Tier IX: Ho-Ri EXP
hollow moth
They still trying to sell tanks that most of people hated
glass relic
Oof, well at least the WZ-112-2 was on auction for a far balanced priced for a tier 8
hollow moth
See that T26E5, more than 3 of every 4 ratings were down thumbs
Most of people rated that
Big most actually
Because it's only a premium and beautiful T32 in T26 family
glass relic
Basically a more THICC Pershing
glass relic
Ah... Yes.. Mausbrechen.. that thing is just... Weird.
hollow moth
They sold a stock tier 9 at tier tier 8 and a lot of people bought thinking "wow it will be super interesting" but they will have some tier 9 matches anyways
glass relic
Well it's a funny looking tank, it want to become a Tog family.
hollow moth
It want to be like AT 15
A tier 8 that have a "tier 7 brother", the AT 15A, just a stock AT15 but there is a difference between the gameplay of the both
In AT15 A you can be more confident with your armor
But VK 168 have the same weakspots of of Vk 100 and is just a dumb mauschen
glass relic
And the cupola is a big one...
Well the AT15A is quite fun cause of it's 17pdr DPM but when you faces tier 8, you'll mostly requires Prammo to damage most of the tanks.
hollow moth
Meanwhile the vk 168, seeing tier 9? Act like a stock mauschen
It will be a confused mauschen being like a mauschen
glass relic
It got so confused that, the turret got moved from the rear to the front.
glass relic
Mm.
hollow belfry
Decided to play the Borsig with the 12.8cm again. I'm not disappointed
hollow belfry
Of course
That's why you have a camo amongst the best in the game and a turret to not reset too often the said camo value
And the job of a Borsig is rarely to go frontline
iron egret
Okay so I might sound like Im aboutta sealclub but can you sidescrape in tech tree Pz III?
Im trying to get VK 100
violet yarrow
@iron egret Yes, pz3 has among the best armor in tier3, no doubt it can side scrape.
iron egret
A heavy in medium's clothes
hollow belfry
Definitively changed to the 12.8cm for the Rhm-Borsig. The 15cm is a lottery while the other is just fun AND efficient
quiet girder
@glass relic hi
wanton spear
@hollow belfry just fun that 128 gives. But the 152 gives more FUN than that
hollow belfry
152 gives fun because you feel like you won a lottery. 128 is fun because of the pen and accuracy, and each shot you land with this sniper gun 128 gives joy
queen creek
What should i say ?
glass crypt
this is a great idea fyi this was sarcasm
narrow shadow
If they get overwhelmingly negative reactions, I believe they will just set the price at something quite absurd and be done with it next time there is a similar event. This is much more friendly to a casual player who doesn't play much at least.
iron egret
I have just got to Pz IV D a few minutes ago and wow
200 HE damage
My eyes have been opened
zealous anchor
Oofus
spark marsh
this is very bad idea
crude gorge
the 5th or the last option
urban lance
Why in premium shop for WOT BLITZ not provid vehicles for WOT BLITZ, Vehicles provide only for WOT
solid gate
@queen creek I don't appreciate that but can deal with it
iron egret
elvis 2024 speaking 2024 english
dry nest
i wonder if i should research gun launcher for sheridan
in pc there is 105mm stock gun for sheridan
elfin orbit
Well niw weve got an apcr launching 152
glass relic
Well i think there'll be no 105mm stock gun on Sheridan, and only on T92E1, but it would be nice to see an optional gun for the Sheridan.
hardy radish
Hello everyone . I have one important question for u guys.
I accidentally sold my t28 defender . I wanted to check stats. And accidentally pressed sell button. Is there a way to refound it back or im screwed up???
glass relic
You can get it back by sending a ticket through the Vehicle restoration
hardy radish
@glass relic thank u man . I hope that will work . Thanks a lot
glass relic
Also you need credits to get it back
hardy radish
@glass relic gold or silver?
glass relic
I mean.. 10% more for the services tax for getting it back. Silver credits of course.
hardy radish
Oh good thanks u man . Thanks a lot
glass relic
Just search up VRT tickets for WoTB in your search engines.
next pivot
Is the VK a tier 8 Maus?
hollow belfry
With a lower plate that gets penetrated by everything it will meet
glass relic
Well yeah.
hollow belfry
Seriously, go for the Tiger II. If you look for armor it's way better, faster too
glass relic
Just need to mostly angle it correctly or it'll just get taken down easily.
solid gate
Tiger 2 is overcooked and i believe its awaiting a nerf. I wouldnt go for it
glass relic
Well it lower plate is the one.
rancid wasp
@next pivot basically. It is a beast. But just like the Maus, it has its weak points. They all have LG issues
rancid wasp
Nice tank
next pivot
Yup
next solstice
What I’m miffed about now is that they buffed the tiger 2s hull to the point of where the lower glacis is even stronger than the upper glacis
bright folio
The lower plate is stronger than the E 75’s lower plate.
next solstice
It’s a stupidly strong lower plate
bright folio
It is the King Tiger for a reason.
next solstice
For World War II? Yes
Except in WWII the King Tiger was scary until it broke down from maintenance issues and yaddah yaddah
maybe nerfing it’s module health would be a good idea
rigid thunder
Idk why you'd be miffed at the lower plate being stronger than the upper plate, just shoot the upper plate lol
next solstice
Most tier 8s don’t have the pen for that
bright folio
German module health is already poor.
Just shoot the sides.
Or the slightly-angled turret.
Or the cupola.
Or drive a tier 8 with the pen to go through the front.
carmine pulsar
How should I play Löwe? Do I play it like a beefed up med or as a support tank?
half yacht
Cost is too high for snowflakes
azure tendon
@carmine pulsar play it like a heavy with no armour - don’t be aggressive, play more towards the back, and shoot whenever you can. It’s a great tank and it has a great gun.
regal zealot
Go hulldown and use that gun to your advantage. The Lowe has a solid turret with relatively weak cheeks, so don’t angle your turret away from the enemy. Hull armor can bounce if you are top tier or angling or using your gun depression. The gun is basically a laser on a HT @carmine pulsar
bright folio
Use the fantastic gun. It has armor in a pinch, and a great turret. The traverse is also good.
stark owl
you guys know that chinese prem td everyone says is op?
regal zealot
The 120-1G FT?
stark owl
why do people brawl in it? I just don't get it, I have a 252u and they think that they can charge at me, yes that one
ig it would be op if people sniped with it
but many people just, brawl with a td that is paper thin
regal zealot
Rule of thumb, never brawl in TDs unless if it will be in your favor.
The Wz prolly was overconfident with the armor, thinking it’s that impenetrable
stark owl
yes, but the only place i cant pen is the mantlet, it is all pennable
regal zealot
It’s extremely tough, but it’s not impervious
Best play it mid range so that it’s gun can hit shots and the armor can reliably boune
stark owl
the only td I would brawl in is either the jpanther2 or the jagdtiger
the brit heavy tds have easy cupolas
regal zealot
Or the 263. The SU-101 and SU-122-54 can brawl against meds; SU-101 with the trollish armor, the SU-122-54 by spitting DPM
stark owl
how does the wz expect to bounce shots? the front armor is like paper
maybe if u angle it but then people will get ur sides
next solstice
They added steroids to the Tiger II hull but they never buffed the Jagdtiger as well smh
regal zealot
Um... the front of the 120-1G FT isn’t paper though
What are you shooting the Wz with? @stark owl
stark owl
252u
regal zealot
Standard ammo or prammo?
stark owl
facehugging standard
rigid thunder
the 252U already has great standard AP pen, tied with the IS-3. Not to mention you're looking down on the tank, which reduces the effectiveness of its armour
regal zealot
Ah, gun depression over the Wz Hull. Whatever you do, never face hug in TDs with sloped armor, it’s effective thickness will go down by quite a bit
stark owl
yea, but then y would they brawl
im going down the chinese td line and the only pennable area is underneath
regal zealot
Like I said, overconfidence with the Wz 120-1G FT’s armor layout. Or trashy players
regal zealot
That would be OP lol; 2520 DPM at tier VIII
stark owl
accuracy is very, very meh
azure tendon
Wz 120 is a great tank played the wrong way - sure it’s got a huge mantlet, but don’t charge heavies. You’re paper thin, and if you are face hugging, you’re not going to bounce Jack sht. Play it like a proper TD, and only push when you need to. I’ve seen countless battles go to waste because people have thought the death wedge was that op. Don’t be that guy that Yolos because your “op”. Play smart win graciously
next pivot
What about Mauschen?
dapper panther
kill by ram
solid gate
Something I can't understand is, why P.44 has 80mm's of armor and the P.43 ter has 100mm of armor. Why did the armor went down? It should've stayed the same at least
rigid thunder
It's not like the P44 needs an armour buff to make it even better than it already is
next solstice
Also that isn’t really gonna change anything
glass relic
Since you'll face more big guns that will pen you easily.
viral lodge
Tier 8 makes 100 mm look like paper except at extreme angles so P44 getting the additional wouldnt do much.
solid gate
I am just confused, that's all. Not that I want a buff for the P.44
viral lodge
ARL 44 -> AMX M4 45 (aka going from heavier to lighter armour and higher speed) is an example I guess
radiant saffron
Why is the progretto 46 so expensive?
viral lodge
Cause WG
glass relic
New tonk
viral lodge
It is pretty much a P44 specializing in burst damage with a smaller profile more damage, less pen
glass relic
It's price will get reduced once it got sold again for the 2nd time.
viral lodge
So this was the 1st time it has shown?
It seems to be a good/decent tank, but id rather save my gold for a tier 10
plain ember
Hi
hushed shadow
Lol 12.5k is quite good for the first time. There’s tanks that have been maybe double that for their first time
blazing lava
Buy t34 for 7k
azure tendon
Should I grind Sheridan first or get back my Leo 1?
carmine pulsar
Sheridan
wild gulch
Are there any tier X autoloaders?
Does any stand out on top or is it just based on preference?
faint lichen
Fv4005 is a bad tank imo
wild gulch
Much appreciated
solid gate
I have 3.39 million creds, and no cred boosters, so I'm gonna sacrifice creds to build my exp back up on the T49
And so far it has got me to 69k exp on it
kind bluff
Or u can use the 90mm XF
solid gate
Name your favourite tank🥳 here:
velvet breach
Maus
hollow cedar
Foch 155
velvet breach
Is maus or isu
delicate mural
Tiger p and tiger 1
solid gate
Hi
wise moth
Bat Chat 25t
valid lodge
Hetzer
tulip sail
M4A3E8
Actually all of my Sherman's
frigid compass
K-91, Tiger 2 and Tiger P
lone vortex
Bromwell
hoary steppe
IS-2 1945
zealous anchor
Leopard 1
solid gate
T92e1...
wild gulch
@lone vortex Yours is the St Emil? May I get some help with the tank?
solid gate
Tier 5 Leopard, since it is OP now
crude gorge
Panther, T34 and T29
pretty much a big lover for the hull down American heavies, except t32
carmine pulsar
Batchat 25t and Batchat AP
dark basin
IS-3
ancient iron
would the ZiS-6 on the KV-2 be worth running for the surprise factor or no?
tulip sail
No it's worth running bc it's a legitimately good gun
flint eagle
Any suggestions for playing the German bulldog?
Should it be played initially as a spotter and sniper (On the edge of spotting and being detected)?
hidden oxide
Leopard 1
hollow cedar
M50 Ontos
carmine pulsar
The lawnmower
tulip sail
It would certainly an interesting addition
naive jolt
How do i use a t23e3 properly, i try peek a boom but i get shot mostly.
solid gate
e100, maus, or vk72
odd horizon
standard b is my favorite at the moment
iron egret
I see you're a man of culture Bougainville
Tbh I think they should add Ontos as a tier X, with a gun similar to Helsing's but fires 6 times in 0.5 seconds with the same alpha, and with a 30 second reload
I know it sounds like it'll be the next WTF E 100 but no, you wont be able to snipe well with the 6 shot gun and have to use it in closer ranges
shy quail
Are most researchable and some premium tanks based on blueprints?
viral lodge
Yes, or prototypes
tulip sail
Most are based on blueprints I stress the word based very thinly
viral lodge
Most high tier tanks are either modern, blueprint, or prototype
shy quail
I wonder how WG get these archives?
viral lodge
Research ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip sail
With how much is incorrect on a lot of these google wouldn't surprise me
shy quail
Some countries like China have strict censorship. How do they get those info from chinese tank blueprints?
tulip sail
They make it up
viral lodge
These are old that would have been de classified
No need to classify old tech that is out of service and out of practicality
shy quail
Makes sense. They said the 121 was involved in a nuclear test.
viral lodge
Wouldnt know, most Chinese tanks are modified/copied versions versions of other nations tanks from what ive seen lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tulip sail
That wouldn't surprise me if correct several tanks have been nuked
viral lodge
Only in testing probably
shy quail
Thats true. I think the only chinese prototype tank ever to exist is the WZ-111 with its "box turret"
tulip sail
I cant say too much on Chinese tanks bc I dont find them interesting
shy quail
viral lodge
Same Wiz
shy quail
WZ-111 is gunless. I hope they can restore it once China gets sort of bored
viral lodge
I mainly check out American, British, and German
shy quail
Oh yeah, the british should have restored the E-100 just like their panther. Sold it for scrap cus they out of money
tulip sail
I'd love it if they added it
solid gate
E100 was scrapped because a lot of countries were not keen on keeping war trophies
If They Added The Italian Tier 8 Premium As a Regular Premium Instead Of a 15000 Gold And 12500 Gold That'd Be Nice But it's Only a Dream
iron egret
38 t chassis you mean
wild gulch
Extremely interesting
solid gate
It Is Interesting Also
pallid quail
interesting
solid gate
I Punched a Possum
pallid quail
how do u play chinese mt
solid gate
You Hide Their Paper
pallid quail
but everything is paper
solid gate
I Meant You Gotta Hide Cause Their Oaoer
pallid quail
China didnt know that armor existed
solid gate
Paper Fu ck I Can't Spell IM A MORON
glass relic
Hulldown for best options to withstand most shots, and mostly be a 2nd liner support and wolfpacks with other mts
pallid quail
how do u hulldown on a chinese mt when their depression is very CRAP
glass relic
Find better terrain? Shrug
solid gate
Yea It's Like Going Hulldown in a Russian Tank It's Impossible
Well It's Almost Impossible
pallid quail
Russia and china dont know how to look down
tulip sail
Bases of hills work wonders
solid gate
Yea They Look Up To Stalin China Looks Up To Something
glass relic
Well There is a lot of terrain that you can use for hulldown, without needing a depression..
You can always just be a 2nd line support for other MTs and preserve your HP if things got worse.
solid gate
I'm Gonna Go Walk Around And There's a Dog Running Around a German Shepard if it Runs At Me I'll Hurt it's Feelings By Screaming Fu ck You Fu ck You!
glass relic
Uhmm watch your words dude... You might get muted.
solid gate
Y'all Figure Out The ChinaNot Looking Down Problem
Ehhhh I Get Muted I Get Muted I Don't Really Care Am I Gonna Be Muted In Everything Everywhere?
glass relic
Erhmm alright..
solid gate
Will It Be Insidious Last KeyThey Gonna Turn My Voicebox Off XD
wild gulch
...
solid gate
If So I'm Not Gonna Punch a Deon imma Shoot it
pallid quail
how does china have worse depression than russia, all they did was copy paste theyre tanks
dark basin
Raaaaacisst
glass relic
Well at least they love.. their 122mm on their MTs.
bright folio
They added bigger 122mm guns @pallid quail
glass relic
And they have a good aiming time for an 122mm gun which Russian tanks doesn't even know how to handle it.
On a mediums.
bright folio
Chinese T8 heavies > Russian T8 heavies
shy quail
The WZ-110 is normal. Abit better than IS-3 because it has a sharper coned front. Honestly its one of my favourite heavies.
WZ-112 is really some tough tank especially for its sloped armour which is as good as the Tiger ii.
next pivot
Any tips for playing the mauschen?
shy quail
@next pivot if you want to be Maus-chan, you have to be together with your teammates. They can protect your sides especially when you have a slow turret. That applies for the Churchill VII @solid gate . Both guns are good to an extent.
next pivot
Ty
solid gate
@solid gate a tip is not to move alone the churlchill is not ment to be a vehicle alone against tanks is a infantry support vehicle thats why its a small caliber
cold aurora
Tips on Fv215b? I somehow struggle with the hull or the gun depression
glass relic
Side scraping... I guess..? And use that engine consumables to get into a good position in the first minutes.
solid trench
215b... hull down or sidescrape...agresive against meds if 1v1, but try to hull down all time...watch yourube reviwws to see hullsown positions on diferent maps...7 dgr aint much
wise moth
Don’t sidescrape. That’s asking to get yourself penned in the FV.
formal turret
@wise moth how to play 215B
solid gate
@solid gate thanks for the instructions
wanton spear
@shy quail WZ 110 is a crappy one in the tier after the IS-2. Its big tumor lower plate is hard to hide. Never ever gonna be my favourite. Even though it reload fast but its not worth it to take trade shots with enemy heavies.
bright folio
The IS-2 is the garbage one.
stark owl
rip hulldowns in russians, need more deepreesssiooon
bright folio
Good luck getting anywhere with that.
solid gate
Pls answer me someone when cdc will come in shop ı want it too much ı have 8500 gold now and ım gonna spend it if cdc wont come in near time
ancient iron
Okay so Vehicle discussion peeps.... I just played a round in my M4A1 Rev. and had a Vindicator on the enemy team.... and this is the first time I've seen this.... according to the game it was an easy pen anywhere on the front yet ever single shot bounced..... is there a spot to aim for on the front of it or is it just all autobounce and gotta hit the sides/rear?
solid gate
İt have a weakspot in front in driver place u can see easily
ancient iron
true but I guess in the Rev. you gotta get sides and rear on it since it can cripple you with a single shot so you can't really sit in front of it to aim... especially not for the 3.6 seconds on the Rev.'s gun .-.
high dawn
What is wrong whit that P.44 Pantera?
high dawn
hmmm
solid gate
:s
fleet berryBOT
Soldat2015#7191 has been warned.
solid gate
I didnt pen a ıs3 from side 90° by wz111 (premium tank destroyer) weird
solid gate
Xd
stark owl
@solid gate get lorraine, cdc is trash compared to it
stark owl
huh, really? Pretty sure my friend just got it 2 weeks ago, lemme check
odd horizon
Yeah for about 7.5k gold
stark owl
@solid gate christmes
odd horizon
I Miss it, i don't have enough gold
stark owl
hehe, it's all about grinding vids
@odd horizon 18250 gold a year
Got a 252u and a cdc
only tanks I need to stay happy in the game
I just set alarms while doing something else
wise moth
@wanton spear 110 is actually really good. When hulldown, it’s really tough for the enemy to deal with it, the mobility is solid, and the 100mm is pretty accurate for a heavy with great DPM
wanton spear
Unless they are using prammo, you pike nose goes for nothing
Thats probably the most frustrating grind for me, even you got it hull down, it still a crappy one
solid gate
I miss lorraine it will come 1 year later ı cant wait
stark owl
mhm, like an autoloading cdc with more armor
solid gate
Slower
stark owl
yea, but not extremely noticable
wise moth
@SirVanscoy#2985 shoot here. It’s only ~140mm effective
stark owl
cdc should have better acceleration if it has paper thin armor to really get those peek shots
wanton spear
Cdc is nothing when meet good t49 player. I could HEP it in my le kpz all day
stark owl
believe me, if u get cdc, you'll be kicking yourself for the autoloader
wanton spear
@solid gate gamer girl?
stark owl
@wanton spear lel, t49s are ez to kill
wise moth
@wanton spear Is you hide the lower plate, the upper plate on the pike is impenetrable to most gold shells, and the turret is quite good. And it gets 6 degrees of gun depression.
wanton spear
Trust me 6 degrees is not enough for some situations. You can't always hide your lower plate when relocating
wanton spear
@stark owl ez but i luckily ammo rekt cdc 4 times in my blitz playes
@solid gate nice trus
*try
wise moth
6 degrees of gun depression is plenty in most circumstances. If you can’t make 110 work, then you must be absolutely struggling in most IS tanks
And you can’t forget that the turret is still amazing
wanton spear
I'll chose IS3 ober it tbh. Wz 110 also has a tumor in the turret that mosy heavies can pen it no problem whatsoever
solid gate
@wanton spear nice joke 😂 🇯 🇴 🇾
bright folio
Plenty of tanks with good turrets have cupolas.
wanton spear
@bright folio nof like IS3's
bright folio
The WZ-112 Glacial, WZ-111 Model 1-4, WZ-111 Model 5a, WZ-111, and T-10/IS-8 all have cupolas.
regal zealot
IS-3 has a tiny but hittable cupola (quite easy to hit imo) if you’re slightly above him
frigid compass
that isnt a cupola dumb dumb
rigid thunder
"Large disc"
regal zealot
So what is it then? A range finder?
frigid compass
viewport/hatch
regal zealot
Meh, that still counts as a cupola
regal zealot
It looks big enough for the commander to use it anyways, as you said only the head counts
So yeah, still think it’s a cupola from your definition
wise moth
IS-3 cupola is “easy to hit” 🧐
regal zealot
Personally
I had more trouble hitting Tiger II cupolas compared to that tiny thing for some odd reason 😒
frigid compass
@regal zealot uh its more of a periscope viewport
regal zealot
I’ll just check Wikipedia/Tank Encylopedia just in case you’re right @frigid compass
Ok, I concede @frigid compass
frigid compass
heh
next pivot
Should i grind for the T29? I know how to play hulldown tanks
regal zealot
Absolutely yes; it’s got an almost impenetrable turret and will get a hull armor buff next update
neon sorrel
is there a guide to playing hulldown?
next pivot
Thanks.
regal zealot
It’s pretty simple; make sure your hull is not exposed to your enemy’s gun sights and only expose the turret @neon sorrel
normal wyvern
@neon sorrel use any rocks, hills, debris etc to hide lower plate as much as possible
bright folio
The T29 is going to be op, if it wasn’t already.
Good gun + best turret at t7 + good hull + speed consumable + HP booster provisions + decent mobility as is = OP tank coming in 6.7
wise moth
T29 is already the best tier VII heavy IMO. There’s all this talk of the Tiger buff, of the Black Prince, but the real OP tanks of tier VII are going to be T29 and T25AT
bright folio
@neon sorrel Look at WOT PC channel YouTube videos. Very helpful, as the principles carry over to blitz.
wise moth
@neon sorrel https://youtu.be/9PwejksTGyE
#ShamelessSelfPlug
bright folio
The Panther I will probably become one of the better T7 meds in 6.7
Armor buff + fantastic gun for a med.
hoary steppe
He's already op 😄
plucky saffron
wow, deze had nog zo veel beter kunnen zijn 😞
oh sry wrong chat....
even the wrong discord server😂
solid gate
Maybe adding more specific nation camos, bc I love that
next solstice
T29 doesn’t need a hull buff tho. It’s literally perfect as it is:
solid gate
Yes
neat nimbus
Tiger 1 should have a buff
hollow belfry
It's going to be buffed at the 6.7 update.... wait a bit
quasi mirage
Buffed too much
solid gate
No
livid yacht
Idk what WG want with all these buffs
Endless buffs but barely any nerf
That's not how changing the meta works
solid gate
But it's important that they nerfed the KV-1 bc it was "too OP". Ruined the game
livid yacht
It had 75mm armor all around
That was a good nerf
livid yacht
Good
Less sealclubbers
solid gate
Not everyone is playing low tier to sealclub, I play it bc it's fun to play it. And KV-1 was one of my fave tanks to play 4 fun
carmine pulsar
Bc 25t worth it?
solid gate
Germany needs more Derp Tanks.
livid yacht
Nope
bright folio
Pick up a VK 100.01 P. After playing with a pile of 105mm armed German heavies, it will feel like a derp tank.
valid lodge
What's a decent average dmg and wn8 for Tiger 1?
solid gate
No, I'm saying proper Derps, like the Sturer, or...
Well, I can't count the Nightmare because it's from "Blitzia" (what I call WG's exclusive tanks).
Like the Sturmpanzer I and II, but not the Sturmtiger, because it has been said a hundred times that it would demand too much balancing time.
ebon tundra
Is WG planing to introduce the T49 A again ?
spiral moth
No
fluid garnet
I can speak French in the serveur
spiral moth
I don't think so, the worst you can probably get is a warn tho
fluid garnet
Why?
ebon tundra
Wich Tank would be able to have HE ATGMs 🤔
I can only think of the T49A and the Kpfpz70/MBT70 (then it's HE would be usable )
carmine pulsar
Because screaming viva la retreat all the time can get annoying.
valid lodge
English server, mods want you to speak english. Makes it easier on them and the majority of people here.
naive island
I made a legendary camouflage concept for the Jg Pz E100. How do I send it to wg?
next solstice
The KV-1 wasn't even that hard to pen
There were 2 spots to pen at the front as long as u had around 100m of pen (which most Tier 5s have)
It's a good tank but it was not a drive to win tank. And it's certainly not a drive to win tank with those nerfs.
The T1 Heavy is arguably better armored and it's more mobile
hoary steppe
still not enough for M 🙃
next solstice
i mean Unicums are using the tank everywhere
it also means that I can nab a mastery in my e100 with only 3.9k dmg because nobody seems to be good at using an e100 anymore
hoary steppe
yea, E100 requires a lot of skill... you can't really trust to his armor
next solstice
I mean I just wiggle as much as I could and sidescrape as often as possible
either way, I just have to accept that I can't do too much against most tanks if they ever aim at my LFP
What doesn't help the E100 is its garbage dpm
the highest it can ever go is maybe 2460~ give or take
That pen buff was much needed tho
quasi mirage
Kv1 still has a great turret with 8 degrees of depression
Even the angry connor requires gold to reliably pen it
bright folio
The E 100 is supposed to balance being a somewhat worse Maus with the 150mm gun. The problem is that alpha can easily make or break a tank.
Interestingly, there are about 3x more people playing the E 100 than the Maus.
uncut kite
The tog should either not drown in deep water or just float
glass crypt
i bet my liver its hot enough to boil it 🍤
solid gate
Anyone else experiencing that Grille 15 primarily get desert maps? It becomes a bit annoying after a while.
azure rivet
@rollz that's what all the sealclubbers say 😉
ebon tundra
The modules are cheap !
regal zealot
That’s a real cheap gun, what’s the engine’s HP? @ebon tundra
ebon tundra
@regal zealot I dont exactly know. U can See the stats on https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/t92e1
carmine matrix
Any recommended equipment for StuG?
toxic tide
anyone know when the AMX 13 57 is gonna be back in stores or does even WG not know?
carmine pulsar
The last time I remember it coming out it was like in spring
deep ivy
@carmine matrix top everything
Gun rammer, camo netting, ram protection, stable gun (both) hp boost and track repair
umbral jungle
@next solstice the e100 is on my bucket list lol
azure tendon
Tf is this
solid gate
SU-130PM