vehicles-discussion

[crude gorge]

Best defender tank idea is the tog

Tog defender for the win

[boreal mulch]

I can come up with new powerful Defenders for Germany like Tiger 2 Defender,Tiger 1 Defender and Maus Defender.

[woven stone]

Cause all they need is a light tank (since there is already a medium, heavy, and TD)

[elfin orbit]

Is there anything flatter than an elc amx

[woven stone]

Plus there's already a defender tank from America, Russia, and now Britain so Germany is probably next

[boreal mulch]

@woven stoneBruh,they can introduce any type of tank.

[crude gorge]

E25 is pretty near to being as flat as amx elc bis

[woven stone]

Yeah but a light would make most sense

Considering that they are planning to release a medium defender next (and not a TD or Heavy)

[boreal mulch]

Imagine Maus Defender aims at your Grille and it use a magazine of HE shells. @woven stone

[woven stone]

Wouldn't be as bad as the Foch 155

[boreal mulch]

@woven stone Can be a good rival to Foch 155.

[woven stone]

yeah

[elfin orbit]

A worthy opponent

[boreal mulch]

@elfin orbitYes,Foch 155 should be careful now.

[elfin orbit]

Unstoppable force vs immovable wall

[boreal mulch]

Possible German Defenders:Tiger 2 Defender,Tiger 1 Defender and Maus Defender.

[crude gorge]

Tog defender

[normal wyvern]

These defender tanks feel like a scam

[hushed shadow]

How so

[cobalt creek]

Panther Defender when

[woven stone]

Probably not anytime soon cause it's a tier 7

Unless you meant the Panther II Defender

[viral lodge]

I mean wouldn’t a Light type defender be next since we got Heavy, TD, and the new Med?

[bright folio]

Not this crap again.

[woven stone]

Yeah @viral lodge

And probably RU 251 Defender

Cause they have now done America, Russia, and Britain Defender tanks

So Germany is probably next

[turbid turret]

I hope it won't be crates...

[golden birch]

I could see them doing a panther 2 defender before they do a ru defender

[woven stone]

Probably for a large sum of gold or money like the T28 Defender @turbid turret

[solid gate]

Wargaming can't get enough with the defender line huh?

[fast compass]

Also the new defender would make for the second premium autoloading medium at tier 8.

[livid forum]

We now need a light tank defender I guess

[fast compass]

Well atleast it will still keep the Lorraine unique (kind of)

[violet stream]

Defender Mk. 1.......how much do you think it will be.

[hushed shadow]

Crates maybe

[violet stream]

How much do think the crate will be?

[turbid turret]

@violet stream May be about 50$ for 5 crates with 0.01% chance...

[elfin orbit]

50 bucks, 1 crate 2% chance

Best trade deal e v e r

[tawdry horizon]

I have a piece for a t-34-3 and I have nothing to do with it

[violet stream]

Same, I have ONE piece and I don't even know how I got it.

[solid gate]

I have kpfpz 70 cavalry and this tank is very op

[golden birch]

Funny

[solid gate]

@solid gate not even close to OP, but very enjoyable anyway. I'd prefer a HE pen buff, or ATGM when WG is ready, since this tank was built for launching missiles

[south vale]

I highly doubt the KPF will get any form of ATGM

[merry elbow]

Damn

Just got my first tanker ace with leopard

[umbral jungle]

I used my T21 today. It's better than I remember

@merry elbow I got 2 with my M5 Stuart a while ago! GJ

[green inlet]

Do you think they will add the challenger 11 tank soon? After all it is one of the best in the world right now

And other modem tanks

[calm inlet]

no

[solid gate]

i don't think modern tanks will be added unless a tier 11 comes out which is unlikely

[soft imp]

Frostbite can you guys maybe think about kpfpz 70 with atgm and see if everyone wants it just like with the foch you guys let the community vote

@jo@solid gate ofcourse its not OP... i hope your joking right now

[tulip sail]

Hopefully they will add them at some point

[mighty moth]

Yeah I hope they add all the swedish tanks lines. It's really fun on pc

[hardy sparrow]

Make that side armour weak

[bright folio]

@soft imp The mods can think about it, but can’t do much. They don’t work for WG.

There are WG staff on the server, but they don’t often show up here with the rest of us rabble.

[carmine pulsar]

If we give them money then they’ll show up more often

[dreamy osprey]

Fv4202 is a awkward tank to play....

It has Mobility, Gun and some troll armour. But that's not how the British MT line performed....

[vast gyro]

I think German tanks are the best

Except TDs

British has the best TDs

America has the best medium tanks

German has the best light and heavy tanks

So France also has pretty good heavies

[viral lodge]

Any clue what tank this is? (The unknown one)

[crude gorge]

the war duck? not sure

[viral lodge]

I had sub 300 battles when I had it

And I didn’t do the war duck event

So I’m just confused, since it has only 3 battles I’m assuming a tier 1 that got removed

[split willow]

what the heck

[crude gorge]

the mark 1?

[split willow]

describe it

[viral lodge]

Isn’t Mark 1 the WW1 tank?

[crude gorge]

ye

[split willow]

ill play wotb if somebody wants a toon

[viral lodge]

Nope, not that then, never got it

Heck didn’t know it existed

[rigid thunder]

That should be the medium 1

[viral lodge]

Ah, I remember that, and that would explain it probably

[dark basin]

@split willow #502019319417405441

[open socket]

Green was already researched.
I have only researched the module in red circle.
Explain, Please.

[split willow]

know @dark basin

[dark basin]

@open socket you have probably already unlocked the gun in another tank

[viral lodge]

@open socket There are times where modules are shared across multiple tanks and as such you already researched those said modules and got them free affectively on the M4

[open socket]

Thanks guys

Nice to know

[umbral jungle]

Im liking my old T21

It seems to be hitting harder than it used to

[bright folio]

Isn't that against the terms of service? You got some guts posting that in the official discord server.

[viral lodge]

They already got muted, but ya lol

They put it in all 5 main channels.

[bright folio]

Wow lol

[red wave]

It would be nice if the obj.439U was in the game

[bright folio]

Just noticed that. Either some balls or some stupidity.

[red wave]

430

[viral lodge]

It is definetly stupidity, they even gave their account password and email

Unless they are fake. Either way it is dumb

Anyone else disapointed in the 3rd auction set?

[bright folio]

I don't care for the auction, but if I did, I'd probably be disappointed.

[viral lodge]

I finally finished the 20k gold crate the day the 2nd set were discontinued. (cause lazy) and stuck with 22k gold and no good tanks to buy

[hardy sparrow]

@viral lodge if all the tank were still there I would buy the WZ

[viral lodge]

Id of nabbed the Lorraine

Either that or the Obj

[dark basin]

Who's stupid?

[viral lodge]

@dark basin We were talking about that person tried to sell their account and gave the email and password for the account in the message which we were commenting on.

[dark basin]

Oh ok

[solid gate]

Ôi

[vast gyro]

Oh

[soft imp]

@bright folio ik that i just wanted to give them the idea so they could give it to WG

[pulsar remnant]

Alright so stock pta what's the first couple of things I should work towards?

[tame jungle]

Whatever gets you to leopard

Then free xp

[calm inlet]

@pulsar remnant free xp to the top gun and engine

[pulsar remnant]

Alrighty

[magic ledge]

Any suggestions for the Nashorn?

[calm inlet]

sell

jk, set it up all for sniping

[magic ledge]

so you mean all full?

[rare fiber]

well yeah, i guess? i don't think nashorn was meant to be on the frontline

[magic ledge]

i really want the Rhm but the Nashorn is just too hard

[hollow rapids]

Its a fast grind

[inland osprey]

Nashorn is pretty underwhelming, yes
The St Emil is pretty good tho, once you get the top gun

[crude gorge]

nashorn is pretty accurate though and has great pen with top gun

[stiff barn]

St Emil can be troll sometimes...

[crude gorge]

that gun mantle

[raven spade]

Any suggestions for P.43 ter?

I hav all the top modules and 💯 crew

Pls

[pastel drum]

Guys, listen up. So I experimented with Dracula in training rooms just to see how it drives etc. I noticed something peculiar, when your gun is destroyed (red color) it repairs just like the tracks - auto-repairs itself (turns yellow) in 1 sec.

[crude gorge]

And i thought it was just the tracks

[pastel drum]

@crude gorge want the replay? I want to have a second confirmation just to be sure

[crude gorge]

don't have the Dracula so idk anything about it apart from the auto repair tracks

yeah sure, i would want a replay on that, send it via DMs

[calm inlet]

wait

hold up

[alpine notch]

Any idea on stats of #coming-soon vehicle?

Sounds like a neat vehicle to me, since its a modified Centurion

[placid adder]

@alpine notch it's autoloader centurion with electric engine and turret of wannabe t26e4

[solid gate]

I that WG would add a BT-42 in game

[calm inlet]

sounds like a better Lorraine lol

we have yet to see the profile. if its got a turret like the T26E4 and the same mobility, its not worth it compared to the Lorraine

if it has Indien-Pz-esq mobility and turret armor, it’ll just outclass the Lorraine

[odd horizon]

I have a question, maybe I don't know yet, can an electric tank catch fire?

[solid gate]

The Indien Pz is well

bad... To me!

[pastel drum]

@calm inlet do you want the replay of Dracula autorepairing its gun? Still have it

[umbral jungle]

I've been having a lot of fun with the t21

[regal zealot]

@solid gate it is not that hard to play tbh, solid turret and decent mobility for a tier VIII medium, and the gun is really reliable

[solid gate]

idk to me its bad..

[magic ledge]

Suggestions?

[solid gate]

nice nashorn

also how did you get the STRV74A2?

that swedish tank

[naive rover]

Is M60 good?

[noble moss]

yes

[ancient iron]

Hello Blitz discord! bit curious on opinions.... JPanther II or Ferdi?

[glass crypt]

jag obv, but the ferd helps u prepare for that jagtiger

[tame jungle]

Ferdi if your a real man

[magic ledge]

@solid gate i got it from a 90% discount for Strv 74A2 mega pack from steam dlc

[bright folio]

So did I.

[hushed shadow]

Was a 99% discount

[ancient iron]

I think with the discount and a coupon I had a while back (like.... 4 months ago) I payed 30 cents Canadian for the Strv 74A2..... .-.

[bright folio]

I think I payed 0.53 USD.

Engine or tracks for ST-1?(I have the top turret and gun)

[magic ledge]

engine

[solid gate]

T26e4 is it OP in tier 8?

[bright folio]

Not anymore, really.

[solid gate]

Ok

What about obj 252u?

[bright folio]

Also not the most op of tanks, but better than the T26E4(someone will probably fight be over this).

[solid gate]

Best tier 8 premium tank is?

[crude gorge]

wz-120-1g ft?

[solid gate]

I usually play great armor tank

Ahh,maybe this tank but sadly I don't have it

[crude gorge]

the tank itself has some super troll armor, it is a TD, it has a great amount of penetration, pretty mobile, quick reload

every 8 seconds you could unleash 400 alpha damage with standard rounds

[solid gate]

I see,I am afraid to bounce this tank when I use obj 252 u to fight it

[crude gorge]

well it is considered as an op tank

[solid trench]

When you bounce on gray penable area of the wz 120...its ...op

[naive rover]

Is it worth it to get the M60 for people who are not skilled players? I’m looking for a tier x tank that is good for not very skilled people

[crude gorge]

m60 definitely isn’t

[naive rover]

Very hard to use well?

[bright folio]

Such a vehicle doesn’t really exist(yet)

There are T1-8 tanks that are good for low-skill players.

[naive rover]

@bright folio T22 I heard is good for low skill players

[crude gorge]

you still need some skills to use it

[bright folio]

^

[naive rover]

But relatively minimal

[rigid thunder]

noob proof tanks generally exist at low tiers

[crude gorge]

you don’t yolo and die within the first minute, you are not indestructible

[naive rover]

I’m just looking for tier x ones that don’t require lots of skill to control well on

[rigid thunder]

Tier 10 is the hardest tier to play, skill will be needed to perform well

[bright folio]

I think that the Op tanks at higher tiers start to have high skill floors as well as high skill ceilings.

[crude gorge]

even Foch 155 needs skill, like you have to be aware of your surroundings just in case if some pesky light or medium sneak up on you and ambush you

so yeah, tier 10 not really

[flint eagle]

How they both bounce?

Does enhanced armor increase RNG bounce rate?

[olive sky]

uhh no

[lyric oriole]

It actually does, but OK

[solid gate]

SP 1 C is the most OP tank. Change my mind

take back ms1

pls

[tame jungle]

Enhanced armor increases armor protection by 4% the fact your using it on a batchat over the extra hp is laughable

[gentle wasp]

@wise moth isn't the O-1 regarded as real? Blueprints and semi-prototype right?

although reading on the wot pc wiki the other variants were fictional

[neon sorrel]

Hey, what's a good place to cry about centurion being crap?

[tulip sail]

A place where the cent isn't good

[viral lodge]

T57 Heavy vs AMX 50 B?

[solid gate]

The O-I didn’t have a prototype built although a track link for it existed it’s rumored a complete prototype of it was shoved into a lake somewhere in japan

[flint eagle]

@tame jungle then why doesn’t it “say” it is enhancing the numbers like nearly everything other equipment does? Anyway, how is like 40 hp helping me at all? I took enhanced armor as bounce rate

[solid gate]

Umm the HP module grants 110+ hp for the batchat what are you on?

[misty wing]

Is the Badger a good tank, and is it gonna be out for gold anytime

[flint eagle]

It was a guess chill. Same deal. Nearly no help

[thick trout]

Extra hp helps you in every battle, the amount of times you will bounce a shot because of that extra thickness is so low that it makes it useless. You would have to be bouncing a shot every 3 or 4 games because of the extra armour to make up for that which isn't going to happen

[solid gate]

That small bit of HP can be a game changer batchats hull is already really bouncy slapping armor on it is like your slapping armor on a Amx 13 75

[flint eagle]

Why doesn’t it change the tanks stats if it is just thickness?

[solid gate]

I use a calculator to see how much it adds and trust me it’s not worth it at all

[lyric oriole]

It moreso efects pen RNG not armor thickness @flint eagle

[thick trout]

The extra armour is only useful if it is used on a tank that is very close to being pennable, like the tiger 2 for example. 4% extra on that puts the thickness out of several tanks pen ranges which will help in many situations, put it on anything else and it's useless

[flint eagle]

So it changes the armor color—- When firing at it?

Still not sure how I got a double bounce

[regal cave]

T62A/ Obj140?

[flint eagle]

62

[misty wing]

Also enhanced armour helps when your armour is really thick, because that 4% on 200+mm armour actually makes it meaningful

[misty wing]

So there's gonna be a British defender now based on the comet?

[tulip hornet]

Can't wait

[short flame]

idk guys, should i grind obj263 or start low tier japs for ho-ri?

263 has better armor but .-.----- that gun... ohhh

[solid gate]

263

Ho ri like a jpanther 2 but tier 10

[narrow shadow]

@short flame Start low tier japs for STB.. how do u even consider hori XDD

[solid gate]

Ho-Ri Type Tree Tank Destroyer
Not pokemon related, something to do with the Irish
This is a joke

[short flame]

sry not in the mindset of playing sta1 and t61 @narrow shadow i'll just be happy with 30b

[narrow shadow]

T61 is excellent lmao, I ended it with 3100 avg dmg @short flame . Really the most surprising tank of the line

[short flame]

wut?
never ever played tech tree japs in my whole life, thought t61 was trash mhh

[narrow shadow]

Yeah the gun is so good it makes up for everything

[short flame]

better than pt a/m46 guns?

[narrow shadow]

yh

[short flame]

well i heard same for sta-1, so it might be true

[narrow shadow]

STA1 doesnt.. it has too poor dpm and aim time

[short flame]

the fact is,. stb1 playstyle doesnt fits me that much
i prefer noarmor but better speed and gun, like leo1

[narrow shadow]

There is no such thing as STB doesnt fit playstyle. It fits everyone, cuz its so op

[short flame]

yeah thats the problem, stb1 can fulfill too many roles, is too much balanced, i want tanks with extreme stats

[dim sail]

So is the sta 1 good or mehh, don't think it sucks though from stats

[short flame]

the problem is that its pretty slow and has no armor

[livid yacht]

It is not that horrible tho
It's like not good, not terrible

[narrow shadow]

STA1 is trash, it is like a panther 2 but it wont even bounce T7 meds

And its slower than panther 2 too, quite substantially

[livid yacht]

But it has better pen, 10° gun dep, low profile and far better camo

[frozen mural]

I waste xp on wz120 topgun 3dg depression what a shame

[solid gate]

which one is better isu 152 or amx 50 100

[dim sail]

Very hard to compare

Both ar pretty good 50 100 Is very underrated

[narrow shadow]

@frozen mural WZ120 is great with the top gun, it has godlike aimtime and DPM with good pen

[pseudo blaze]

hellcat or jackson?

[dim sail]

I'm really struggling with wz 120 fully kitted out, can't wait to sell it once I've researched wz 121

3° gun depression is so awful

@pseudo blaze imo hellcat, really good tank

[cerulean wing]

I'm trying to see whether I should buy a SuperPershing or a T34...Can someone help me make a decision?

[dim sail]

@cerulean wing t34 , but if u can buy Lowe instead of them 2

[cerulean wing]

I already have a Lowe 😅

[dim sail]

Yh t34

[blazing lava]

When is ARTILLERY coming pls pls pls

[dim sail]

But tbh I would wait for something like the black bulldog o amx m4 49 when they come to the store @cerulean wing

[blazing lava]

Nah jk too far

[pseudo blaze]

ARTA in such a small map?

[dim sail]

@blazing lava never

[blazing lava]

Noooooooo

[cerulean wing]

Yeah I was planning to wait, thank you

[narrow shadow]

@dim sail Well maybe you will learn to play the WZ120 over time. After the first day I thought its trash, I had only about 2600 avg dmg in it, which is less than any other T9 tank i played recently, but the next 2 days I found some positions and finished the grind with overall avg nearing 3k, which is quite good.

[dim sail]

That's what I'm doing,I'll buy a Google play card in like a month and start watching ads to get 10k gold for any good offers

[blazing lava]

If Arta came, so would half the player base. Hehe u see

[narrow shadow]

Also yeah, AMX M4 49 is the best T8 premium tank to buy, it is fast, has great frontal armour, working gun and gun depression.

[kind bluff]

@blazing lava why arty when we can have air strikes from our watches

[narrow shadow]

The key point is that unlike the soviet tank clones, it has a gun which can be pleasant to use

[cerulean wing]

Shouldn't the map be big to have arty in??

[dim sail]

Literally the only thing wrong with the amx M4 49 is the side armour and I mean it has more than an Exp @narrow shadow

[narrow shadow]

And gun handling itself. That isn't very good. But the aimtime is ok and u wanna play mid to close range hulldown anyways

[dim sail]

It has good dpm, good pen, good armour, gun depression, mobility very underrated

[narrow shadow]

If I didn't have it already, I'd be very upset it wasn't on sale during the blitz fair. I only bought chief mk6 there, quite an underwhelming event tbh considering all the hype and stuff.

[dim sail]

@narrow shadow I think the t 34 2 is great and sure 121 will be great but the 120 just seems to have more alpha and aim Time than a t54 and that's it

The Chinese mediums dispersions are alright,but on the move let's not talk about that 😬

[narrow shadow]

I liked all the tanks in the line tbh.. The only one I didn't play is the T10 cuz I'm broke after the x5 event

[dim sail]

So the 120s a keeper for u or are you a collector already

[narrow shadow]

It's not exactly a keeper, I just didn't sell it yet. It's a tank I may play once in a while

[dim sail]

I'll sell it to get credits for 121

[narrow shadow]

On the other hand, I sold the trash VK45b immediately

[dim sail]

I thought it was good

[narrow shadow]

Ha-ha-ha

It's the second worst T9 heavy after mauschen..

[dim sail]

I mean its lower plates even a hard pen at times

[narrow shadow]

It has armour comparable to E75 frontally.. And then E75 is much more flexible, has better side armour, is faster, has better gun stats etc

[dim sail]

And rlly u think mauschens the worst

I thought the wz 111 1-4 was really bad at first but I'm rlly starting to like it looks like I'll keep it

[narrow shadow]

Yeah, because eventhough it can be a pain to deal with at times, it's armour is not all that great and it has nothing else but that

I forgot about WZ 111 1-4.. That one looks like a terrible tank tbh. Like IS8 but with worse gun, but I will see if I ever get enough credits

[dim sail]

It's a very sluggish medium, but with big alpha and blocks medium shots, it's better than is 8 imo,and gun isn't Al that bad when kitted out

[narrow shadow]

I'm looking at them side by side and all it has is alpha dmg over the IS8..

[dim sail]

It does have a better armour profile,even if they're both not great

[narrow shadow]

U sure ? The side armour is pretty much the same, the front is similar, although prolly more troll, and it has bigger cupolas

[dim sail]

It's more of a higher ceiling,and Lower floor than is 8

[narrow shadow]

It does have those autobounce plates, but above them and under them its weaker than IS8

[dim sail]

It's not hard to do 4k games in it get one lke every2- 3 battles

Is 8 is a tier8 armour profile facing 10s at times it sucks,at least the hull

[lone glade]

Which line should I go down now that I'm done with the Sherman?

[vast gyro]

You can choose if you want @lone glade

Because I don’t play America tanks, you could ask someone who plays that.

[left sail]

i want T-34-85 Rudy to Poland national

:/

[delicate mural]

You can make T-34/85 Rudy speak polish

[neat nimbus]

I wish a legendary camouflage for the tiger 2 either changing to king tiger or tiger 2 royal and I'm talking about a historical one

[robust dirge]

Which one should i get?

[dark basin]

Both

[viral lodge]

I mean the Tiger II is a great tank, so do you want a tier 9 or a tier 8

[blissful rune]

T54e1 was one of my worst tanks, and the stats are good, idk y

[viral lodge]

Weird playstyle is my guess

[rare fiber]

go for the tiger

[viral lodge]

Id probably agree

[alpine notch]

T54E1 is so underrated :(

[rare fiber]

go tiger goo

[solid gate]

@alpine notch but the turret of T54E1 is really good

[lyric oriole]

Not really

[rare fiber]

not really

the turret is there just to hold the big gun, i didn't really think it's pretty good for bouncing shells

[solid gate]

How much is T9 cost?

[crude gorge]

which t9

[solid gate]

Tier 9 leopard pta

Is it 3.450.000?

[crude gorge]

yes it is

you can check out the cost on blitzhangar

[odd horizon]

I have question, are electric tank can fire in engine?

[solid gate]

you mean defender family?

actually idk,I'm new :)

[dapper panther]

yes they can

[crude gorge]

yes

[dapper panther]

ever heard of electric fire? 😄

[crude gorge]

tv8

[solid gate]

Does leopard pt a can hold 120mm pen?

[crude gorge]

what

[solid gate]

can a pt leopard withstand the penetrations of 120mm gun?

cause her armor is very thin

[dapper panther]

only if you get shot at the barrel or track

otherwise, no

[crude gorge]

i think any tank at tier 8-10 can pen you with ease, but you would get troll bounces from time to time

in fact some can HE you, quite easily, watch out for those 150mm cannons

[solid gate]

ow

[crude gorge]

the stock pta leopard is pain, remember that, get the gun then the engine as soon as possible

[solid gate]

Gun and the engine?

Skip the PTA as soon as possible

[crude gorge]

or that

[solid gate]

Do you mean turret? cause the gun just decrease the accury

[crude gorge]

gun gives you better alpha and penetration though so it finally gives you the ability to play a role in battles

and then you can get the turret, then finally the tracks

[solid gate]

Oh ok

So gun first and then engine then track

[crude gorge]

i think gun, engine, turret, track would be better

[glacial crest]

since the tier VII Panther is getting a pretty big armor buff, why isn't the Panther 88 getting one as well? Isn't it basically the same chassis?

It would probably make it an actually viable premium - decent armor that can hold its own against plenty of mediums alongside downright insane accuracy.

[bright folio]

How often has the Panther 8.8 been available? I think that I’ve seen one in a match ever. If WG has only sold a few, they probably won’t care about it.

[spark marsh]

r8 this tank
I won on the Snowglobe

[dapper panther]

E25 on steroids

[spark marsh]

😆

[glacial crest]

@bright folio last sale was June 2018

[bright folio]

Huh. More recently than I thought.

[dapper panther]

it was good when it debuted, but became less and less useful as WG has added more tanks to tier8 over the updates

[crude gorge]

this guy lucky

I got a tankenstein

[spark marsh]

@crude gorge i had to Sacrifice the BT-SV to have this tank

[crude gorge]

this tank has troll frontal armor, great mobility, good gun with a good pen, good reload, unleash around 400 alpha with standard ammunition every 8 seconds

[boreal mulch]

@spark marshMe too. I sacrificed BT-SV to get 1000 gold as it is a weak tank.

[crude gorge]

I sacrificed my bt sv just to get a tankenstein, I supposed it’s better than the 200k exp

[spark marsh]

@boreal mulch i'am a Affectionate Collector,so Lost the BT-SV was kinda a hard thing for me

@crude gorge indeed it is

[crude gorge]

you can recover it any time, only if you have play a battle in it once

[spark marsh]

Yes i have battled with it,but the Ticket thing only exists on the EU Server apparently

[crude gorge]

you want the link? I think it’s in the pin messages in one of the channels here

[spark marsh]

@crude gorge yes i want,it may cost 1100 gold

[crude gorge]

ok wait

I’m searching for it

alright you know what, why don’t you go to like the NA wargaming website and then log in, after that jump to player support

after that, go to game issues, and then click on in game goods, from there you can submit a ticket

[spark marsh]

👌

[solid trench]

Should I puechase Tiger 2 and play to E75 or skip Panther 2 and research E50? Tiger 2 was buffed and heard Panther 2 is not a good tank to play....

[hollow belfry]

Depends
Tiger II is more than good
Panther II is difficult to play and the stock grind on the E50 is painful, but once fully upgraded it's pretty good

[solid trench]

Thx

[solid gate]

Which TD line you can recommend me?

[fast compass]

What kind of tanks do you like(your playstyle)?

[solid gate]

Agressive playstale, i was playing soviet Su-101 line and i liked it

[fast compass]

Ha the yolo wagon. I am grinding that as well at the tier 9 now. I would have said foch but it probably won't dominate as much with lower alpha in the next update (i may be wrong). It plays similar to the obj268

[solid gate]

Ok, thank you

[brisk pecan]

IS3D was the first defender. MK1D wouldn't be able to kill it if the IS3D driver was good. Pfft.

Four shells per clip? Every other defender has had 3. It should remain the same regardless of class.

[rigid thunder]

@random sierra

[kindred frigate]

Based off the buff shown in blitz hangar the camo buff for grille literally does nothing

[lyric oriole]

I mean it was camo upon firing and Wargaming said, "Have another"

Which was what 1 point

[brittle elbow]

can u get collectors back after u sell them using gold?

[hollow belfry]

Yes

[kind bluff]

@kindred frigate that’s why
60 km/h Grille day 20

[lone glade]

Is the Pz. V/VI worth keeping?

[hollow belfry]

Yes... good hull armor and ramming abilities

[lone glade]

Thanks

[solid gate]

is challenger worth keeping?

[blazing otter]

M4 Sherman any good?

[rigid star]

A demand the removal of the kv2 from the game

[next solstice]

should i boost the pen or reload for my e100

[tulip sail]

@blazing otter yes if you can learn its style

[hardy sparrow]

@rigid star why?

[rigid star]

Because a lot of people hate the tank

[sterile fern]

Hi

Anyone wanna play platoon

Tier VI

[carmine pulsar]

If you love this game why would you say that @rigid star

[rigid star]

A don't like the game it just some how says i love these game thats not my actual name my name is gooooo

[blazing otter]

My take on its style is that it's a hill warrior

Good gun depression I'm finding

[solid gate]

im screaming i just got dracula

[rigid star]

@solid gate whell my friend you just got the most op tank in the game🚗 🚗

[solid gate]

IS-3 def too but its not good

Can someone please tell me if it's worth it on going with the [challenger, charrioter] path

[rigid star]

If you want the hesh criminal go to the fv215b just go @solid gate

[solid gate]

On it

[rigid star]

If you want to go to the fv 4005 just to warn you @solid gate you will have noo armor

Your armour whil like wet paper

[solid trench]

A good tank with hesh is centurion 7/1 at tier 9 (sees tier 8)....fv215b is tier 10

[glass crypt]

the charioteer and conway are good tanks, the challenger although kinda wack compared to them i find it fun laughing at the enemies armor when being top tier and still feeling comfortable at bot tier

[solid gate]

I dont think the kv2 should be removed dont forget its one of the most hated , but one of the most loved tanks

[carmine pulsar]

The only people who hate it are the ones that got invited to so many pizza parties they didn’t know how to enjoy themselves.

[vast gyro]

@rigid star actually I like the KV series

[glass crypt]

after the HE nerf 80% of t6 tank can just walk up to the kv2 and spank it

[brittle elbow]

@hollow belfry how do u get the collectors back then?

[glass crypt]

there were no collector's back then, they were regular tanks 🍤

[unborn fulcrum]

pretty sure this means the hit zone hit box is clipping into the actual tank model

[woeful thistle]

Yep

[misty wing]

Is Ho-Ri gonna be a premium tank

[frigid compass]

@misty wing tech tree

[misty wing]

How is it gonna be researched, wouldn't make sense unless they added a tier 8 and 9 at the very least

Imagine if it split off from the type 61

[frigid compass]

tier 10s get tested first

[rigid thunder]

It'd probably split off at the chi-to

[misty wing]

WG screwed themselves by putting Ho-Ri at tier X, now they don't have room for this

Fun fact, the Ho-Ri is the only non-German tank that isn't post-WWII

[devout tapir]

Bruh

[iron garnet]

Am I the only one that thinks the t62a is a bit overpowered, while the Leo is stunningly average for just getting buffed?

[gentle wasp]

prob not

[bright folio]

Should I get the tracks or the engine first for my ST-1?(I got the gun and turret already)

[misty wing]

Engine always imo, most tracks aren't that helpful

[wise moth]

@misty wing False.
@bright folio Tracks
Tracks actually are more helpful than engines on most tanks. In the case of the STI, the tracks actually improve the effective hp/t more than the engine, give a substantial boost to the gun handling, and improves the traverse a tad

[frigid compass]

on most tanks except things like the KV-4 @wise moth

[misty wing]

Get engine when it gives 100+ horsepower

[wise moth]

I would still get the tracks on KV-4. You need the extra traverse and gun handling buffs desperately on the KV-4. It doesn't improve the effective hp/t as much as the engine, but you really need that extra traverse and gun handling more

[lyric oriole]

Engine only really matters if it's something that has a large speed range

[misty wing]

I never noticed a change after doing the tracks on the tanks that I've played

[lyric oriole]

It's night and day if you play mostly TDs like me

[wise moth]

Gun handling buffs, effective hp/t buffs, traverse buffs; tracks are easily one of the most important modules on most tanks

On most tanks, I would go Gun -> Tracks -> Turret -> Engine

[misty wing]

You can't do gun before turret on most tanks

[lyric oriole]

Depending on the turret as well, if it Increases View Range/DPM/gun handling/and or Health it's sometimes a bigger priority than tracks

[misty wing]

@lyric oriole I play mostly mediums I guess now

[wise moth]

@lyric oriole Yeah, turret is a huge wildcard. Most turrets do improve some combo of view range, DPM, gun handling, and health, but between turret and tracks, for me it comes down to how much armor the turret upgrade slaps on. On tanks like M26, the turret goes from being completely paper to one of the best on a tier 8 med, and in that case turret is a no brainer, but on others like M46, it's a little harder to pick

[lyric oriole]

Yeah, or T32 for example, the turret Effectively making the tank

[tulip sail]

Which is the preferred turret on the m46 I've heard it both ways (I generally used the m47 one bc I preferred the look when grinding)

[lyric oriole]

Top turret Imo

[wise moth]

@tulip sail M47 turret because of all the gun buffs, and the HP increase, and view range increase. And the stock M46 turret is still paper anyway, so it doesn't offer much in return

[lyric oriole]

A Pershing turret seeing tier 9 and 10 isn't going to stop shells

[wise moth]

@lyric oriole It's softer than the M26 top turret

[lyric oriole]

I didn't notice that, either way, it also has lower turret traverse as well

[tulip sail]

The main thing I've heard in the m46 turret is the massive mantlet

[wise moth]

M26 turret has about ~300mm or so of protection on the mantlet, and M46 only has ~120-150

[tulip sail]

But with me free xping the modules I never used the m46 turret

[wise moth]

Although, the M46 stock turret may have been stealth buffed along with M26, I'm not sure

[lyric oriole]

I don't think so, I've gone through it with AP from my German Bulldog

[wise moth]

M26 turret is weird since in-game it does indeed offer around ~300mm or so of protection, but blitzhangar and armor inspector don't show the actual amount of armor behind the mantlet
Same case with T26E4

[lyric oriole]

The Stock M46 turret is kinda like T23E3 in the sense that it can stop shells. But will it ever happen? Probably not.

[wise moth]

@lyric oriole You wanna test to see if it's actually still ~150mm of protection? I'm kinda curious now

[lyric oriole]

Sure what do you want me to be, the gun or the target?

[wise moth]

I have M46, so I can do either

[lyric oriole]

I'll use T71 because it has 160 with APCR

[wise moth]

k, I have a room up now

[tulip sail]

All I know is I didn't do much in the way of bouncing even with the m47 turret granted I tried not getting hit period

[lyric oriole]

T71 above, T95E2 Below, 160mm vs. 180

[wise moth]

Hmmmm, my guess is that there's 50-60mm of armor behind the mantlet then

[tulip sail]

Huh interesting

[lyric oriole]

Let's try a 17pdr to see if we can get the exact or almost exact value

[wise moth]

@lyric oriole Keep shooting with that 90

If we get some bounces and some pens, then we'll know it's right on the money

[lyric oriole]

I exited

[wise moth]

i c

[lyric oriole]

It's a 50/50 skin that was shown there

[wise moth]

The firefly is 50/50, so the effective armor is around ~170mm, thus I conclude that they've added 50mm behind the mantlet on the stock M46 turret

Which means it has between 170-200mm of protection... which is still not enough to stop most tier 8 and 9 shells

[lyric oriole]

*Firefly's 17pdr (171mm)

[wise moth]

Basically TL/DR
M46 turret was stealth buffed, but not enough to make a difference

[lyric oriole]

Effectively Centurion 7/1 hasn't been pushed out of it's niche role

[wise moth]

Although a strong M46 turret would have been an interesting choice. A more brawl oriented med with more armor, or a more gun oriented med with less armor

[lyric oriole]

Although using the Enhanced Armor Equipment could help with random bounces odds are it won't do enough unless someone fires a HEAT shell

[wise moth]

Yeah, at the maximum, you're looking at ~200mm of armor, which really won't stop anything more than a tier 8 medium tank shell

[lyric oriole]

Basically tier 10 has that now with T-62A although it's a bit awkward

[misty wing]

When do they update hall of fame on blitzstars

Because I just had a 5.9k game in the WZ-120

[wise moth]

@misty wing They update it when you submit your replay

[misty wing]

Are you kidding my replays were full

[wise moth]

?

If your replays are full, the game just deletes the oldest replay to make room for the newest

[umbral jungle]

Anyone use the T21?

[hollow belfry]

@brittle elbow go to the player support, and create a ticket in the section "in-game goods" then you will have access to the tab of vehicle restoration cost
Log out of your WG account in wot before submitting the ticket

[frank berry]

All of the current defender tanks are from allied nations (which is representative of how they were mainly defensive at the start of the war), does that mean that the light tank defender will also be from an allied nation?

If so, will axis defenders be added or will they be called offender tanks (because the axis were mainly offensive at the start of the war)

Tiger 2 Offender

Or aggressor

Please take the first question seriously and not the second one it was a joke pls no ban

[dapper panther]

@grim moss I'm not talking about actual damage, but alphas, the potential damage which that caliber is supposed to offer

[rotund palm]

.

Should i sell BT SV for 1k gold or keep it?

[stable pasture]

Which equipments I should buy for Tiger 2?

[narrow shadow]

All of them

[rotund palm]

Should i sell BT SV ?

[crude gorge]

i sold it because im not a collector, i dont care about playing tier 3 anyways and i wanted that sweet 1k gold

[iron egret]

First battle in Helsing
Didnt get 2k damage =(
Probably because I got carried away by the speed for a moment and almost tried to circle around an IS

[narrow shadow]

Helsing is not gonna be the that broken next patch with all the buffs

[iron egret]

Its getting buffed? 😳

[dusky stone]

He/she means other tanks are getting buffed

[solid gate]

@rotund palm if u need golds why not, but if don't need golds immediately u can keep it, fo what u want

[odd horizon]

@rotund palm i sell it

[steady sapphire]

Give FV4005 no-auto single shot gun

[rotund palm]

Imma keep BT SV until i need the gold

[misty wing]

@wise moth nvm I had replays off for some reason

Can't they update it if I send a screenshot? I'm assuming they just want proof

[solid gate]

lol

[dim sail]

@narrow shadow I've changed my mind wz 120 is quite good actually, but don't think I'm gonna keep it lol

[stark owl]

Man some people really despise pikenose tanks

[lyric oriole]

I dislike pike nose tanks Tbh, I can angle my armor myself, I would prefer not to have places where my armor is weak because someone is a little to my left or right

[lone glade]

Should I get the Churchil III, Matilda BP, or Excelsior? I do have a coupon for the Churchill.

[lyric oriole]

If you have a coupon go for Churchill

[lone glade]

Thanks

[deep ivy]

Any tips on T49?

[dapper panther]

run

[carmine pulsar]

Run and launch tactical nukes

[solid gate]

Still funny tank, but I think it needs at least +10 on HEAT pen

[stark owl]

@lyric oriole reverse side scraping makes tanks like the is3 impossible to pen

[lyric oriole]

IS-3 has garbage armor, Reverse Sidescraping does hardly anything for IS-3

[stark owl]

also, most tanks can pen the is3 from the top 2 plates

[narrow shadow]

You have even less gun depression thru the back, so reverse sidescraping is pain in IS3 anyways

[stark owl]

i don't think you will be depressing much if u are already reverse sidescraping

[lyric oriole]

If you need to hit a lower Glacis Plate yes you will

[stark owl]

it's all situational

[narrow shadow]

It can be painful at times, you wont hit lfp often cuz of that

[stark owl]

idk, i play the 252u and rev. sidescrape a ton bc of my enormous lower plate

[lyric oriole]

Tall vehicles benefit most from Reverse Sidescraping like KV-5 and VK 168 because the guns are high above the hull

[stark owl]

but they won't bc limited deppression

[lyric oriole]

Um

[stark owl]

well, if ur going off the side then a little less so

[lyric oriole]

KV-5 and VK 168 have about the same amount, if not the same gun depression values off the back

[stark owl]

basic physics, your gun can't exactly go lower than the back of your tank and depending how thicc ur sides are, the same rules apply

a gun can only physically go down enough until either the turret permits it, or the hull stops the gun

oof gonna be a long message ;/

(insert surprised Pikachu face here)

[calm inlet]

tell that to the Cromwell B

[stark owl]

didn't play it

[rigid thunder]

the KV-5 is great for reverse sidescraping, hides the front cupolas pretty well. The turret is also really high up and as a result will retain all of its gun depression

and the Cromwell B has 13 degrees of gun depression all around the tank, meaning you can depress the gun into the engine deck

[lyric oriole]

Um physics have nothing to do with it...

Yes, that is how things touch each other. I'm not sure if you've ever seen a KV-5 or VK 168, but they don't have the gun anywhere near enough the hull that it effects them much

They don't get Effected by Reverse Sidescraping because of the gun position, unlike IS-3 having a low profile and small turret which force the gun to practically be on the hull

[stark owl]

mein gud

[neon sorrel]

how do you sell bt-sv?

i don't find it in tech tree

i have it in my garage, then what?

[lyric oriole]

Go to upgrades, the button will be on the bottom right

[neon sorrel]

thanks guys

[lyric oriole]

Np

[karmic field]

I noticed that the hull armor is slightly worse. But it still has the god tier turret, and the gun is SO much better'

@quasi mirage

[quasi mirage]

Then again @karmic field just play the stb1 for camo and profile too while sacrificing 5 pen
Also mobility

[karmic field]

Understandable. But I don't want to go through that bloody brutal grind

[quasi mirage]

I mean t61 is legitimately goodnow

[karmic field]

I am chilling on the chi nu right now, I kinda hate the line. I have the Chi To on my alt
Yeah, I know the T61 is great

[quasi mirage]

Although Tiers 6 to 8 are pretty bad

Although most tier 8 meds are bad

[karmic field]

5-8*

and yeah, I am not really patient enough for that bastard of a line grind

[quasi mirage]

But yeah t61 rn is just a m46 pattom that's way easier to pen but also it can actually pen other stuff

[karmic field]

interesting

back to the M60... Everyone's saying it's not worth it.. Why? It's an M48 Patton with less hull armor and a leopard 1 gun

[quasi mirage]

And tbh I'd rather hae the t61. I dont really like trollish armor as I can't actually use it to my advantage( its advantageous but not in a random situation)

Like for example if I see a gun staring at me I might bounce in the m46 but I probably wouldn't poke

[karmic field]

Not really talking M48 versus STB-1
I know the STB is god tier right now. I am wondering M48 versus M60, and why I should or shouldn't get it

[quasi mirage]

I wouldn't. Tbh I really dont get the bounces too reliably. Find the m60 turret easier to oen

[karmic field]

isn't it exactly the same turret?

[potent widget]

No, a lot weaker @karmic field

[karmic field]

Yeah, turrets are exactly the same armor wise

thats not the exact same view

[potent widget]

Yep, bigger weakspots

[karmic field]

I suppose that's a better image. They look precisely the same to me

actually yeah, looks like the cheeks beside the cupola are slightly easier to hit. Easy to compensate for it though

[wise moth]

@potent widget @quasi mirage "M60 turret is weaker than M48" is the biggest myth of all time that needs to die
This is vs. FV-215b APCR

And vs. T-62A APCR

[quasi mirage]

Ok rip so I guess I'd say the m60.is better but considering the stb 1 existed the m60 inst worth 20k gold

[solid gate]

Who here would like a BT-42?

[neon raptor]

yes pls

or just bt-7 art

[karmic field]

It looks like the M60 will be going down to 15 or 16k final price... still not worth it?

[pine acorn]

I happen to have a issue where you cant see the vehicle when you try to create a ticket for restoration

Any help?

[stark owl]

@lyric oriole how do you feel about the 252u?

[lyric oriole]

Broken

[stark owl]

lower plate has joined the chat

[pulsar sinew]

@wise moth that should have died when the m48 got the turret nerf

[wise moth]

@pulsar sinew When did M48 get a turret nerf?

[pulsar sinew]

Years ago

Back with the heat nerf I thought

Maybe I’m wrong

[wise moth]

All I remember was that buff when they removed the cupola and strengthened the armor behind the mantlet

I don't really recall there ever being a nerf

[pulsar sinew]

I thought there was a time when the heat nerf came about that the m60 has a worse turret but still had 330 heat pen so everyone still used it

[solid gate]

The good ol days.

[wise moth]

Nah, people who were salty about not having the M60 just told themselves that M60 had a worse turret to justify M60 being better than M48 in literally every way.

Add in a healthy mix of Blitz playerbase superstition and confirmation bias, and one of the most persistent myths in Blitz is born

[pulsar sinew]

I thought there was a legitimate distance for a little while

Could be forgetting. Everything becomes a blur after a while

[glossy dock]

I get that this is just a normal function of the game but like, Why are the engines of the defender vehicles able to catch on fire despite having electric engines?

[glass crypt]

i mean, technically batteries can also catch fire but eh

[tulip sail]

Electric engines have always been able to catch fire

[wild gulch]

I talked about this with some others, but I need more opinions. The grille 15 has good size, aiming time, shooting speed, and concealment. The E100 has better armor, pen, and damage. Which tank is better statisticly and playing?

[tulip sail]

There completely different and pretty much incomparable

[bright folio]

^

[vital valve]

Yo guys. I have a question. I am max tier VIII and i want to get IS-VII . I have a chance of discovering IS and KV3 . Any advices?

Advice please^^.

[tame jungle]

I have never seen someone call the IS7 the IS VII

[solid gate]

If anything electric engines are more likely to burn than diesel

[wild gulch]

Elon musk looks with disappointment

[bright folio]

Richard Hammond has entered the chat

[short canopy]

how good are the defender tanks?

[pulsar sinew]

@bright folio did someone crash or roll a car?

[bright folio]

Presumably, they crashed their electric tank and it kept burning for a while.

[carmine pulsar]

What makes a defender a defender?

[chrome stirrup]

Well first it has to be an Allied country and have a turret

[solid gate]

Is the m60 any good?

[tulip sail]

Yes it's very close to the m48

[balmy parcel]

Well new defender
I have the T28 Defender

[tame jungle]

@bright folio HAMMOOOND

[chrome stirrup]

Panther and Panther II has no gun depression change my mind

I play them so you can't

[vast gyro]

Is IS 7 better or Maus

[rose venture]

I hate pike noses

[vast gyro]

Ha

[wild gulch]

@vast gyro You need to specify what is better of the two. IS is good for blocking damage. That’s what I know of that

[vast gyro]

@wild gulch I mean the penetration

[wild gulch]

Oh

[vast gyro]

I don’t mind the armour XD

[wild gulch]

IS: 260
Maus: 246

[vast gyro]

Thx

So I’ll start playing IS tech tree then

[misty wing]

The pen is not that big of a deal, and Maus line is better imo

[frank berry]

did you just say IS is good for blocking damage

Maus is literally the best "tanking" tank in the game

like absorbing damage

[viral lodge]

Any advice for playing the AMX M4 45? (Just bought it, free XPed the turret so I got my ARL high pen gun)

[gentle wasp]

@viral lodge I didn't like it, it is really a let down before you get to 50 100. but i think you gotta play it like a med. bully their lights and meds and flank their heavies. I guess you could second line, don't recall how good the gun is.

[viral lodge]

Pretty good gun, at 75% crew around a 6 second reload for 220 average damage with good pen

[gentle wasp]

ah so yea you could second line and support heavies i guess

turret seems strong and i think it has decent gun dep

[viral lodge]

Main problem is the large paper hull, taking a little getting used too

I have a camo for the AMX 50 B so that is the main reason im working on this as my secondary line at the moment ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Main line is my Conway, only 140k from FV4005

Well anyway things for the advice.

[gentle wasp]

no problem man gl with the grind

[viral lodge]

Are the tier 8 and 9 decent?

[gentle wasp]

haven't played the t8 much and didn't get to the t9, but they seem pretty decent. at least the autoloader should be fun.

from blitzstars, the WRs are both mid 51%, which is a bit low

[viral lodge]

Considering the average player has a 48% I’ll take that as a decent tank

[gentle wasp]

lol. i was just comparing it to other tech tree heavies at the tier and it seemed low

[viral lodge]

I mean at tier 8 there is the Tiger 2, Obj 252u, and a few others

Anyway non meta tanks are fun ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid gate]

So

[wild gulch]

What vehicle has the lowest dispersion? Is it grille?

[solid gate]

Obj 268 >>> Obj 263

[rigid thunder]

grille 15 and T-62a share the lowest dispersion at the game at 0.272

[bright folio]

The AT 15 and E 25 have that same dispersion value as well.

[tame jungle]

Technically

The Sheridan and t92e1 have best accuracy in game

With those rockets at 0% dispersion

[solid gate]

Hehe

[raven jacinth]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DElj7GfwtlI

the hull is so different

[strong marsh]

Wth look at the rate of fire

[raven jacinth]

@strong marsh Crew Mastery

[strong marsh]

Ok

[misty wing]

Screw the kpf, literally 90% of the people who I see in it are 40% nub who bought into the high tiers

[raven jacinth]

bottom pic is with Crew at 100%

[fluid parrot]

Maybe it has also foods and fuel

[strong marsh]

Cause I tought it's a glitch

Who's read for sheridan?

[misty wing]

Don't have the T49 and probably never will, lol.
I just hate derp's and bad accuracy guns in general

[strong marsh]

I got m41 but. I sell it

Look at my credits

In the pic

[misty wing]

15k oof, I bought the Pz IV Hydro bundle which game with 30 days premium so I've been rolling in credits

[solid gate]

@raven jacinth that’s a test bed hull

[quasi mirage]

Kpf used to be a mark of a skilled player or at least decent

[shrewd basin]

Yup

[woeful pumice]

The t92e1 is so short and sneaky

And actually has useable armor

[solid gate]

@woeful pumice yeah it's right

The sides armor can be splash by T49

[green inlet]

If you buy a tank with using credits you actually paid for and then they nerf the tank in someway I honestly think you should get a refund

[bright folio]

As in... you bought a premium with gold that you paid for? They already don’t nerf them.

I personally think that premiums should be subject to buffs and nerfs like everything else, and I’ve bought premiums. That, however, is a discussion for another time.

[dapper panther]

Classifications should be revised imo, since there are too many hybrid tank that doesnt really fit into one class comfortably

[bright folio]

Do you mean that you bought a collector tank/whatever the chieftain mk 6 is(I think WG calls it an enhanced tank)? WG has said that they can be nerfed, and can nerf of buff them in the name of game balance.

[dapper panther]

E.g. Tiger1, mk6 and t92e6 are all heaviums, but none of them suit to be proper Heavies, nor meds

[bright folio]

Do you mean that you bought credits and used those to buy a tech tree tank? Tech tree tanks can be buffed and nerfed to keep the game “fair”, and should be.

@dapper panther wait until 6.7. The Tiger 1 is getting a massive armor buff it doesn’t need.

[dapper panther]

My statement still stands, Tiger1 might get a buff, but the situation remains as there are other tank out there that cannot fit into any current role

[bright folio]

If WG tried to make a bunch of designations to fit every tank perfectly, there would be 12 different designations and they wouldn’t be any more helpful than they currently are.

The French heavies aren’t exactly remotely normal hts, the m4a3e2 is a heavy, the drac and AMX cdc are a mix of light and medium, the T26e4 wants you to think that it’s a heavy, the KV-1s is a medium in a heavy’s skin, and the worst way to play a helsing is like a typical td.

[vast gyro]

💯

[narrow shadow]

@dapper panther Everyone (should) know that tank class doesn't neccesarily represent the play style of the tank, why change this ultimately useless thing?

[dapper panther]

That's exactly the point to change the classification, to represent the roles

[misty wing]

So like in tf2 when there's a heavy, medic, scout etc?

[narrow shadow]

But then u get even more casual players confused when they see Tiger 1 and it's a medium @dapper panther

[raven jacinth]

Anything with a gold title, like with premiums, that is at tier 9 or 10 are classified as "Reward Tanks" I think

[fiery coral]

Also want to add that the matilda is in no way a heavy tank, weight? Maybe but its Ridicoulosly low dmg and reload is at max a medium and a min a light

[blissful umbra]

When will the new Proggeto 35 mod. 46 come out and at how much gold would it cost?

[solid trench]

Gold??ha ha ha...cash baby for the premium progetto, around 50 euro

[dapper panther]

@narrow shadow no no no, you got me wrong. I don't want reassign the already existing classes. I want brand new classes, like "assault", "support", "heavy support"...etc

Afaik it was once implemented in WoTPC testserver

[burnt monolith]

https://youtu.be/DElj7GfwtlI Kpfpz70 or the Pigg 😂 we need a pink camo with attachments: pignoise and pigtail nowe 🤣

[odd tulip]

How

Found this on a website im like is this the prototype of su100y idk anyone knows about this thing?

[solid gate]

We need this in WoTB

[naive jolt]

@odd tulip mendeleev tonk

Russian bunker on traccs

[next solstice]

a real box tank

[odd tulip]

Oooo

[crude gorge]

nice rectangular prism

[iron egret]

I remember someone saying the KV-3 is a bad tank 😎

[rigid thunder]

The KV-3 is a bad tank

[iron egret]

I used to be so good in the KV-3, 68%WR
But then I reached KV-4 and I was like, "screw this"
So I went for American TDs

Now I have 59%WR hmmm i wonder why

[crude gorge]

the turreted line or the turretless line

[iron egret]

Turreted because Im terrible at the other

[crude gorge]

sure t30 is a good tank, e4 not so much though

[iron egret]

Yep, it sure is
I just realised I still have more WR in KV-3 though 🤔

[crude gorge]

so what about the kv4?

[rigid thunder]

hot garbage yay

[crude gorge]

I know

[iron egret]

Even the damage is a downgrade?

[solid gate]

@crude gorge how about Soviet Behemoth The Mighty KV - 5?

[iron egret]

Is KV-5 good?
Just in case i come across one

[crude gorge]

I don't have it

[solid gate]

@iron egret Of course Sir

[crude gorge]

but I can pen through it easily with my T34, like almost no red spots

even my tiger p could pen through it

[solid gate]

@crude gorge if it's on sidescrapping?

[iron egret]

Just hit the mini turrets
Like the KV-4's mini turret

[crude gorge]

never seen one side scrape, the only time that I saw it in battles was on the new bay map

well actually 3 times

[solid gate]

I use my ISU 152 and when I using HE shell I just got 40 HP left (sidescrapping position)

[rigid thunder]

The KV-5 is pretty meh, turret is weak even if you reverse sidescrape

[solid gate]

Isn't it good tank?

Huh?

[crude gorge]

Nah, not really, there are far better premiums at this tier

[ancient iron]

Hi everyone just curious if the Vindicator or Predator are any good

[pulsar sinew]

No

Don’t buy them

Ever

[ancient iron]

oof that bad huh? or just toxic for the MM?

[pulsar sinew]

No. That bad

Toxic is the drac and Helsing

[ancient iron]

yeah I was honestly kicking myself for missing those.... I had sworn to get the Helsing when it was available next then missed it

[dapper panther]

vindi is good, preda sucks

[viral lodge]

Vindi is good for anti noob

And experienced players will obliterate one

[toxic fulcrum]

Is IS-3 Defender fixed yet? I'm starting to get very agitated after magically bouncing shots that are supposed to PENETRATE it's armor...

T28 Defender = Balanced and cool
IS-3 Defender = Forcefield of bullsh*!&3y

[viral lodge]

🤔 that is just tier 8 Russian heavies for you

[toxic fulcrum]

Yeah and I'd like refunds on mine, cuz they are broken in a bad way

[viral lodge]

can’t get a refund when it is working as intended ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shell forum]

Tankenstein good, meh, or bad? Just got it anf i have zero clue on its armor

[toxic fulcrum]

It's half-good, half-crap

[viral lodge]

Just because it is a premium doesn’t mean it should be amazing

[toxic fulcrum]

The big gun hits hard, frontal armor is tough, but mobility is bad with very horrid weak spots riddled around the tank

[shell forum]

That's why I ask since I don't even know it lol

[viral lodge]

Tankenstein can do good, but it is also a huge target

[toxic fulcrum]

Kv-4 turret doesn't have the thicc mantlet, Tiger P hull is probably of the old one's

cuz side weak spots still exist on it

[shell forum]

Can you DM to go in depth?

[toxic fulcrum]

Sure @shell forum

[wicked oracle]

If the ATGMs end up being really successful I wonder if they’ll introduce more of them.
Like the M60 Starship

[solid gate]

Hmmmm actually that is possible

But that cupola tho

[wicked oracle]

Yeah, it’s ginormous

[glass crypt]

i bet i can fit an ms-1 in there

[solid gate]

Atgm m49

[viral lodge]

if any premium tanks get ATGMs Kpf 70 should get it first

[lyric copper]

^

[noble geyser]

^

[lyric copper]

rip leopard and BC

[wicked oracle]

Dayum

[solid gate]

after the kv-1 do i go for the kvis or kv2

[bright folio]

Both

[chrome stirrup]

I dont play Russian heavies but personally I think the KV1S is more strategic, and a better tank in general. The KV2 is just a meme. I would know, since I dont play Russian tanks I get rekt by Russian tanks.

Is 'rekt' a 2017 word

[solid gate]

kv1s has such a bad gun, i’d rather risk it by going with the kv2 and have a chance of hitting them 640 alpha shots than having a little bit higher but still a small chance to hit for 400 dmg

[viral lodge]

Should I use 3.3k gold to get enough free XP to skip the Panther 2? (I got a 25% off tier IX coupon)

Is the E50 stock ok? Currently Panther II annoys me (no reliable armour, soso mobility, ok gun)

[solid gate]

no

play the panther 2, e50 is one of the worst stock grinds

[narrow shadow]

No Panther 2 is good to play. And don't even try to play E50 stock, you need free xp for the top gun first and preferably for the first engine too

[viral lodge]

Then I’ll just put this off for a while, I’ll just get enough free XP to skip and get modules

[narrow shadow]

Everyone says how bad it is and whatnot, but with the great gun handling and respectable DPM it gets, even the mobility is good with 60 kph top speed, it's quite pleasant to play actually

And you will be bouncing in hulldown off the mantlet and sides, and in brawl vs T7 meds for sure

[viral lodge]

My turret gets penned none stop

I’ve rarely had any bounces

Panther II is probably my least favorite tier 8 currently, I want to enjoy it, but I feel like each battle is a major pain to do good in

I mean I’m used to my Mod1 which feels more agile, slightly higher alpha gun, and reliable armor

Idk why the Mod1 feels more agile when it has a 10 kp/h slower top speed

[brittle elbow]

at least Panther 2 is better than normal Pershing

[dapper panther]

@karmic field i didnt talk about lowroll below AP
e.g. shoot HE onto WT's Dumbo ears, damage 925
20sec reload, AP onto another WT's Dumbo ears, damage 970 or more, up to 1163

[karmic field]

A) why are you shooting a WT with AP
B) 925 is not possible on the HESH, from what I know, when shooting a target as paper thin as a WT

[dapper panther]

also, AP and HE have different damage range, your actual damage is determined by RNG roll, within the given range.
what I said is just a theorical example. it could happen, but very low chance

yes you are right, I gave wrong numbers: 925 with HE/HESH is impossibru.
regardless of that mistake of mine, the problem still persists

[karmic field]

Your damage roll almost fully depends on your penetration. The more you pen the armor, the more damage it deals. WT you should always hit 1300-1500

if you hit the weak turret, that is

[solid gate]

I tend to get 1100 rolls in FV183 all the time, so that’s not really possible to be consistently in the 1300 range.

[karmic field]

it is against a Grille and WT, is it not?

[solid gate]

T28 needs a frontal armour buff T28 proto needs a mantlet buff and yea :-)

[lyric oriole]

T28 is a second line fighter, it should be fighting far enough away that the turret cheeks should be difficult to hit

[misty wing]

Still underpowered nonetheless

[kind bluff]

Both T28’s suck big

[bright folio]

The proto is better than the T28.

The T28 might be the worst t8 vehicle.

[kind bluff]

panther II

indien panzers
ferdinand
centurion I
caernarvon

I can keep going

[karmic field]

Panther 2 is bad

Indien is very good, same with Ferdinand (highest winrate T8 non-prem TD if I recall) Centurion and Caernarvon are just outstanding tanks if played hulldown

T28 is actually probably the worst tier 8 tank in the game

that, or the Panther 2/8,8/snowsotrm jag

[keen sundial]

Remember when the tiger 2 used to be terrible

[bright folio]

The Snowstorm JT 88 and Regular JT 88 are the same tank.

[karmic field]

xd

I know, yeah, I mean both of the above are really badf

[solid gate]

How about Tog?

[bright folio]

Tier 8

[karmic field]

A) Tog is a tier 6 B) Tog is actually not as bad as everyone says C) It's a ******* Tog

[solid gate]

Oke how about AC 48?

[karmic field]

AC 48 is very solid. Good frontal armor, great gun... Trust me, it's far better than, say, Panther II or T28/T28 Proto

[keen sundial]

vk45.02?

[karmic field]

Everyone plays it wrong. It's a heavium, not a heavy. Treat it as such

[oblique saddle]

What do you think of the AMX 30 B?

[karmic field]

30B is a very solid tank. The turret cupola is very trolly, it's gun depression is great, it's gun is only mediocre, but it is a VERY solid tank, for a premium tier 10. Not an Amx 30 1er proto, but it's pretty damn good

[solid gate]

But AC 48 have a bad fire rate when not trained 100% Crew skill...

[karmic field]

same can be said of ANY tank when not 100% crew skill

[bright folio]

^

[karmic field]

tanks are not supposed to be powerful when not 100% crew skill...

[solid gate]

🤔 well right too

[bright folio]

The AMX has the Foch's gun at T8.

[wild gulch]

how should Nashtorn be played? its large and easy to hit, bad armor, engine is constatly hit from any sides, and hard to camp because of high dispertion

[karmic field]

snipe

Use your dpm, camo, and brilliant gun to win fights

hide from any big gun; they will use HE and murder you

[wild gulch]

hmm

[bright folio]

The gun is fantastic.

[elfin meadow]

It always makes my mad whenever I see someone say the nashorn is terrible. I love it 🙂

[karmic field]

It's a campy TD is the thinig, and most players aren't patient enough to...well...camp

[viral lodge]

I personally had trouble with Nashorn (Free XPed the remaining 20k XP for St Emil) I free XPed the Emil's gun and that tank is one of my favorite tier 7 TDs

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid gate]

Buff m60

[viral lodge]

Are you a person that spent money on it expecting an OP tier 10 tank?

[solid gate]

No

[viral lodge]

The M60 from what ive heard is basically a premium M48 lol

So I didnt buy it

[solid gate]

It’s bad

[viral lodge]

Its a decent tank quite sure

Part of it is probably your playstyle/skill.

Dont try to play like a T34 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solid gate]

I was going to get 10 million credits with the gold to buy Leo pta and t54 but then my friend wanted me to get it

[viral lodge]

Well, credits are a waste of gold

[bright folio]

^

[viral lodge]

Im sitting on 21k gold rn

So I could have bought M60, but im waiting for a better tank

[solid gate]

I was gonna save it for the new tanks

[bright folio]

I've got something similar. Both the halloween and christmas events were disappointing.

[viral lodge]

Halloween was ok tbh, Nightmare is fun.

BF and Christmas tho were flatout disapointing in many ways

[bright folio]

On an unrelated note, it's nice having all of the German T7-9 heavies all use basically the same set of guns. Just got the 45.02 A and have all the guns and engines already available.

[umbral jungle]

M5 Stuart is best tank

[bright folio]

It is the best American Tier 3 tech tree light tank, that's for sure.

[karmic field]

(of which there is only 1)

[bright folio]

Precisely.

[raw monolith]

Armor it's just a number....😂

[pure herald]

That's impossible, but what am I saying, I bounced a shot in an ALECTO

But nice Rheinmettal-Borsig Wafffenträger

[solid gate]

He either got hit in the track or gun

[valid lodge]

If you shoot down the barrel of the enemy tank, you should get a medal.

Change my mind

[rose venture]

Or instead just instant damage to all crew members

Crew of Tiger II all screaming in German and an amx just whizz by like “ha! Shot on your hole oui oui!”

[raw monolith]

@solid gate it was a track hit :)

[winter siren]

emmm, since ik what to do with 10k coins from snowglobe, after some consideration i bought lowe, among t26 or JTiger 8.8

was it a good purchase?

[lyric oriole]

Not sure how you got all 3 for 10k gold, that math is a bit off

[rigid thunder]

he said he chose the lowe among those 3 tanks listed

[winter siren]

no, i mean, those 3 were my considerations

[viral lodge]

Lowe is a great credit maker

[lyric oriole]

T26E4 is bad, Jadgtiger 8.8 takes a very specific kind of driver, and Löwe is the best of the 3 listed none of which I would choose, but that's just my opinion

[winter siren]

Ah thank you. Do I really have to invest for premium ammo on Lowe?

[kind bluff]

^^^
As a 8,8 driver since 2016 id recommend Lowe

Barely any, maybe around 7 shells or less @winter siren

[winter siren]

Oh, okay then. Sorry for the noobish questions

I'm actually a returning player, started fresh since last month in New acc. Because so much wrong decisions in the prev acc

Good thing I returned in New year events, so hence the 10k snow globe bonus

[lyric oriole]

It's all good questions make my Role have a purpose 👀

[winter siren]

so yeah, here i am starting fresh with soviets/german tanks in focus

[grim forum]

I want a super Conqueror 😥

Just remove FV215B and replace with super Conqueror. Give me the true happiness.

That.is.all.

[rigid thunder]

What a nice idea for a new enriched tier 10 tank, the super conqueror

[grim forum]

if they pull a badger on us again instead of making it tech tree......

[gentle lagoon]

my traverse speed in t92e1 will be 80 degrees fully upgraded and skills taken with consumables and equipment

[grim forum]

O

[gentle lagoon]

that is godlike

[grim forum]

I'm not even sure what tank that is

[gentle lagoon]

my ru is 77 lol

@grim forum the tier 9 atgm light tank ....

[grim forum]

Oh yeah

Well that is good to know. Pretty sure testers not supposed to reveal anything tho

Even tho you can just look yourself online

[gentle lagoon]

thats in blitzhanger bruh

[grim forum]

I'm suprised the traverse is that fast

I got max skills and always buy all the equipment and stuff so its achievable

[gentle lagoon]

yes

[winter siren]

and emmm, my snowglobe tank was the tankenstein

turns out its another tiger p......

[solid gate]

Tankenstain have the bad fire rate

[gentle lagoon]

tiger p is poopoo

[rigid thunder]

ur poopoo

[gentle lagoon]

@rigid thunder🧐

[grim forum]

Tankenstien = worse version of tiger p in my opinion. It has the worst DPM in tier 7 and both gun choices are super bad.

[winter siren]

yeah, i feel it

and i thought it was a kv-2 derp equivalent

but alas, stein and lowe are my only ranked-able tanks atm

[odd urchin]

Yay or Nay?

[regal zealot]

Yay

[odd urchin]

Guess I'm lucky then, grinding paid off 👌

[regal zealot]

Good mobility + solid gun + turret allows to get to early snipe points.

Just be wary of your armor and camo

[odd urchin]

Got it, thanks for the tips.

[dapper panther]

@odd urchin congratz. turreted jpanther2, but armoured like a tier6-7

[calm inlet]

yay man, id love a Skorpion G

more like armored like a Tier 1 lol

[lunar valve]

Same but I got a drac... :c

The only tank I already had : l

[dapper panther]

if you mean by thiccnes, yes. by shape it's more like a regular panther

[dusky stone]

@odd urchin defo yay, I love it

[fluid parrot]

How to use the Churchill VII

[naive jolt]

@fluid parrot sidescrape and use your amazing dpm to slowly cripple enemies

[fluid parrot]

Oh

[pulsar sinew]

@fluid parrot you’re slow so start thinking about where you want to be 15-30 seconds ahead

Remember you had dpm and decent armor to always slow down your advance if you get into trouble, but not enough of either to take on more than 2

[ebon tundra]

The Kpfpz70 / MBT 70 had originaly the Option to Shot ATGMs . What do you think about replacing the HEAT of the Kpfpz70 with ATGMs ?

[faint solstice]

They should have it to compensate for the god awful damage

[thick trout]

560 alpha isn't awful at all, especially not on a decently fast heavy

[valid lodge]

I wish i could get 560 dmg more often. Usually it's under 500

[thick trout]

Write down ever roll you get with AP (excluding crew skills) and tell me what the average is and you will see that even after about 10 games it's extremely close to 560 @valid lodge

[valid lodge]

Ok

I assume by crew skills you mean precision shot activations?

[thick trout]

Yep

[analog vigil]

Er... I'm late
Why everyone want to replace kpfpz gun by atgm ?
Is it because it gun look's like an atgm gun ?

[thick trout]

Because people want a buff to the gun for some reason even though it's alright how it is, and irl the kpf could have shot ATGMs

[analog vigil]

Thx xD

[woeful thistle]

Can we get the LTR back because honestly it’s better than the pz2 now

[ancient iron]

so.... I just got 15000 gold..... because my snowglobe landed me the AMX 30B which I already had..... .-.

so I obviously wanna use that on some good prem tanks.... .-. how are the Löwe and the SU-122-44?

[valid lodge]

Lowe is pretty good at making credits

[ancient iron]

(the Löwe was on my list because I had a freebie on its legendary camo)

[ebon tundra]

@analog vigil in reality that gun was able to shoot ATGMs and normal rounds. So he could keep the the Apcr and the worse HE and just get his HEAT replaced with ATGMs.

Like it is on the 2 new ATGM Tanks

[valid lodge]

@thick trout
I'm going to ignore kill shots that are lower than the (420-700) range if that's ok

So if someone has 300hp left and i kill them. I won't count it in the average

[thick trout]

Yep that works, fires and ammo racks shouldn't be counted either but they aren't too common

[valid lodge]

Yeah I'll ignore those too.

[bright sphinx]

You guys prefer armor or penetration?
Like a rock solid tank but terrible dpm
or a paper tank with good damage capability