#vehicles-discussion

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kindred wren
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So it's more reasonable to define it by likelihood of penetration

karmic field
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but it does

simple thorn
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someone kill me pls

karmic field
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and that's why it's trollish

Mostly just means like unexpected bounces. For example:
SU-100M1, SU-101

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@simple thorn Sorry breh

simple thorn
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im losing braincells now

karmic field
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from me, or from him? Or B O T H O F U S

kindred wren
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Spaces

simple thorn
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not from u. from h i m

karmic field
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okay good

kindred wren
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Even more spaces

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Well, i am happy to take over your braincells

simple thorn
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w h a t a b o u t s p a c e s ? u r p r o b l e m i f u h a t e e m

kindred wren
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If you unexpectedly bounce it's either due to RNG, bad aiming or the target moving

simple thorn
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the H in lux stands for humor

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lOl

kindred wren
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It would be appropriate to collect the braincells you haven't lost yet and stop trying to provoke me

wise moth
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@kindred wren Your definition of false isn't correct. If you apply it, you come up with conclusions like "The M48 patton turret isn't trollish because you can pen the cheeks"

simple thorn
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inhales

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i am s c r e am i n g

kindred wren
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If you have a 50% chance of penning the cheeks, they are trollish

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If you have a 50% chance of penning the turret when randomly shooting it anywhere, it is trollish

simple thorn
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he says theyre trollish when he has no idea what trollish really means

kindred wren
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The turret of the M48 is not trollish by my definition

simple thorn
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ur just repeating what we say in ur own way

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is it only me whos losing my braincells due to lux

kindred wren
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Well, if I am only repeating you, the only way to silence me is to be silent yourself

simple thorn
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ok b o o m e r

kindred wren
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As shown with the M48 turret, my definition of trollish actually works when applied correctly. I never said that you can deduct from one area to the entirety of a component

simple thorn
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r/iamverysmart

kindred wren
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I am happy that you are

simple thorn
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im starting to do the reddit stuff now

kindred wren
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You started earlier with the whoosh

simple thorn
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bruh. i mean im referring to u acting smart by ur speech

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i said i would woooosh u but u wouldnt get it so i didnt woooosh u

kindred wren
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You referred to it anyways

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Also, as we already established, i only repeat you, so what i say must be what you think

simple thorn
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internal screaming

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hmm

glass crypt
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is it just me or when driving a stock vehicle u never face higher tier tanks?

simple thorn
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i suffered stock T-54 against tier tens i couldnt pen ;-;

frigid compass
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in the first few battles in a tank you get preferential mm where you cant get uptiered

kindred wren
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I guess we will just leave it at that screaming and ignoring me... If that is so, then I will go off for now, see you all

glass crypt
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interesting

fleet berryBOT
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dynoSuccess Crona#7829 has been warned.

shrewd ravine
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@glass crypt you speak unspoken legends

rough sparrow
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What is wrong with KV1

placid adder
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It's not wrong

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It's a normal ht

glass crypt
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it got nerfed a while ago

twin crest
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When are we getting a properly done Swedish, Polish, and Italian tech tree?

eager pine
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Also Czech

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What we really need is Bob Semple

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Make it a tier X

bright folio
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The Bob Semple would be too op.

simple thorn
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lol

tulip sail
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how would a .303 be op?

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espectially with barely enough armour to stop mg rounds

glass crypt
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obvious sarcasm is not so obvious

tulip sail
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wait people actually still use that as joke? it got old in 07

rigid thunder
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well, yes

tulip sail
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tbh i dont see why, not only is it super old but there are far more meme worth afvs

rigid thunder
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because

solid gate
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It was never funny

tulip sail
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i was for a week when it first came about

finite rune
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what is better

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su 152 or su 100 m1

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*which

sinful current
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The SU152 is better cuz if the gun and mobility

finite rune
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i know it has to be su 152

tulip sail
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it really depends on your style

sinful current
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If you don't like to derp people then SU100 but if you like to love to derp people SU 152

tulip sail
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pretty much

sinful current
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I love seeing an AMX and using HE and BOOM DELETED

quartz spire
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Lol

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BOOOM

tulip sail
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i dont really care for derp guns so the su152 with the 122 is more my style because gd although when aplicable the su100m1 is better for me since its got better gun stats

glass crypt
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u mean the su or isu šŸ‘€

glass relic
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Well SU ofc since using 122mm on ISU isn't that... A good of an strategies.

glass crypt
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i meant which one he meant as you're comparing a t7 to a t8

rocky gazelle
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I don't like Derpy playstyle. Too much time to aim, too much time to reload. KV1S was as derp as I've had so far.

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I have an Su100. 100 mm is good enough. Don't plan to use 122.

stable pasture
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Regardless of this. What does SU stand for?

narrow shadow
stable pasture
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Nevermind, it means Samohodnaya Ustanovka

solid gate
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Is Kpfpz good?

solid gate
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Is fv215b 183 good?

frigid compass
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183 is the worst tier 10

eager pine
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Anyone got T95E6

solid gate
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Why is fv215b 183 the worst?

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@frigid compass?

frigid compass
golden birch
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It has no armor, a really long reload so it can be rushed really easy, and bad accuracy

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Only strength is the alpha

tulip sail
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@glass crypt both the su152 and the su100m1 are t7 youre thinking of the su101 which is t8

glass crypt
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waitwhat

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ok i just checked apparently i have very smol brain

tulip sail
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youre good thhe russian tree is confusing

minor mica
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Is the badger good to get ?

eager pine
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I really like T95E6

stable pasture
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Is there any tank like VK 16.02 Leopard

solid gate
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So the wotb gods blessed me last night

elfin meadow
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Out of these premiums which has the best credit co efficient? T34 Indy, IS-6, Pz 4 S, Panther M10, SU 122 44, Lycan, SU100y, Y5 Firefly, or Y5 T-34?

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I need to get 2.5mil credits as fast as I can

narrow shadow
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Just play whatever you have fun with

rigid thunder
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Usually the higher tier the better

elfin meadow
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It should say in the vehicle information what the credit co efficient imo.

bright folio
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Play whichever tank you do best in. That will get you more credits.

eager pine
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T7 car @stable pasture

solid gate
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Is kpfpz good?

lyric oriole
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It's OK

stable pasture
solid gate
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I git a t25 from a crate I'm so happy

thick trout
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@stable pasture Yes it will unlock it for every season for that tank

stable pasture
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply.

thick trout
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Np

stable pasture
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Which camouflage looks best?

kindred wren
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The pink one

stable pasture
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Name?

kindred wren
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The name is unexpectable

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Not available for purchase as we speak

pastel drum
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legion cammo looks awesome on the maus

elfin meadow
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Should I get Raider or Troublemaker for Grille?

rose venture
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Give us the amx 13 105, make bat chats proper mediums and move amx 13 90 to tier 9 to make less of of a sad joke. In the process replace the 13 90 with the Bc-12t like it should be... happiness guaranteed

devout wedge
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Kp70 worth it?

bright folio
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See the 2-3 day long debate up a bit in chat and make a decision for yourself about the premium German heavy.

solid gate
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Long story short @devout wedge it’s not worth it

kindred wren
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That’s the position he held, anyways

lime thistle
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I already have Kpz-70. I got it because I like tanks with the 152mm M81/XM150 Gun Launcher. How about just tanks with the gun launcher lmao

latent crane
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T1 Heavy or M4 Sherman? The age old question

bright folio
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That depends on how much you want the T110E5.

devout wedge
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RogeršŸ¤™šŸ¾

tulip sail
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sherman always

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doesnt matter what sherman but sherman always

true scarab
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hi

bright folio
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So, the Loza's sherman over the Pz. 4 S? Good to know...

tulip sail
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any day

bright folio
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Does the obj 263 have a legendary camo?

tulip sail
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not that i know of

bright folio
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Hmmm

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That makes 3 tier 10s shat should get legendary camos. The JgPz E 100 and T110E3 should get them too.

tulip sail
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i could ,make a list of tanks that diserve one

latent crane
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Best tank line?

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Looking to dedicate to one as I’ve just started WotB from PC.

hoary steppe
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IS-4

latent crane
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Thank you!

royal charm
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T49 line

hoary steppe
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lol

latent crane
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T49 might suit me better, I have high impact with mediums

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It wasn’t the best on PC, though, is it balanced differently here?

royal charm
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Its tier 8 tank here

hoary steppe
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what kind of player you were in the PC version?

latent crane
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Too competitive for my own good

hoary steppe
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wn8

royal charm
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For a second I thought ur gonna say arty player

latent crane
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I think mine was circa 3k

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But it has been a long time, I’m probably like a 2k player now

royal charm
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WR?

latent crane
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My WR on PC was never amazing but I was 58-61

hoary steppe
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3k lol
then you can play whatever you want

latent crane
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Different game, the maps here are tiny

royal charm
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Ur gonna be 80% unicum here

hoary steppe
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yep

latent crane
solid gate
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oh wack

latent crane
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There is a lot of 70s on this game

solid gate
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i have 1k something battles and my highest wr was 53 somethijg

royal charm
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Lets see whats it gonna be when u reach 1k battles

latent crane
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I hope I can end up 60

royal charm
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!remindme 3 years

latent crane
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I’ve played a lot today, so in about 1-2 weeks lol

royal charm
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Wat

solid gate
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my wr dropped a lot since i havent learned how to play the tier 5 panzer yet

latent crane
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Stopped at T1 heavy, forgot how shit that tank is

royal charm
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Why did u transfer btw?

latent crane
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I was watching Qb on twitch

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And he mentioned WoTB being really good now

royal charm
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Lets see...

  • no arty
latent crane
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Oh yes, that was probably my main reason

royal charm
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  • no wheeled vehicles
latent crane
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I actually don’t mind those

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That ā€œmissile tankā€ idea sounds exactly like arty, though

royal charm
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A lot of people do tho.

  • premium shells have some balance in them
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You lose damage for the extra pen

hoary steppe
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I also switched from the PC version to Blitz Steam
the game is less frustrating in every way

latent crane
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I feel like with less players, you can have a lot more impact

royal charm
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That is true

solid gate
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QBs known for being wargamings marketer basically

latent crane
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If I hold 2-3 enemies down on one side, that’s a huge impact as my team have a 6 v 4 on the other side now

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On PC, you feel a lot like a spectator

royal charm
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If you play on mobile you get 50 gold a day. You will get a Lowe f2p in 6 months

latent crane
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I really like the being able to see teammates reloading thing

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Such a ā€œhow did I play without thisā€ feature

solid gate
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the T1 Heavy isn't shit now,i'm pretty good with it as almost nothing can pen it from the front,and the reload time is like 7s

latent crane
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It doesn’t fit my play style at all

royal charm
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T1 leads into M6 which leads into T29 which is the best šŸ‘Œ

latent crane
royal charm
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Blame the team idk

latent crane
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But the T29 was my favourite tank of all time, is it still the best tier for tier?

solid gate
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i suck with the M6,it's a lot more vulnerable than the T1

royal charm
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@latent crane nothing can pen your turret. Nothing

latent crane
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I remember how torturous the m6 was, haha

royal charm
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Frontally I mean

solid gate
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i'm still trying to fit into the Pz Iv G playstyle,i'm mostly a heavy tank guy but i try hh

hoary steppe
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M6 my favourite šŸ˜‹
my only one 3 star tank in the PC version

royal charm
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There are some downsides tho. They butchered low tiers

latent crane
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The armour is really good but it’s hard to use it when the map is small enough for mediums to circumvent you

royal charm
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Hetzer lost its derp gun for example. And most low tier collectors only purpose is to lower your chance to win

latent crane
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It did?!

royal charm
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KV 2 was also nerfed. Some people call it trash now

solid gate
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it's slow but 700dmg boy

latent crane
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Slow and with a bad gun?

solid gate
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also very inaccurate

latent crane
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Like 0.45?

royal charm
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Id say its more accurate than on PC tho

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But that might be the smaller maps

latent crane
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That one map, on the left side you drive forward for 1 second and you see enemies

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Mines, I think? That’s so crazy

royal charm
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Yea u still get that on high tier battles

solid gate
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my friend uses the KV2 but he's alright i guess,he says buying the equipment is a must,for accuracy and stuff

royal charm
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Dont forget to open your daily free lootcrates btw @latent crane

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You will get boosters that speed up the grind

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Oh yea and from the daily missions you can get free camos and stuff. No ressuply cost on a lot of them

solid gate
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i'm in a dilemma for now,i can either grind the T34 for the MT25,or earn money to buy the T34-85 tho it seems that the Chinese version of the T34 is the better one
It's either that or earning for the Cromwell

royal charm
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I loved the T 34 85 @solid gate

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Also loved the Cromwell

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Get both

solid gate
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i prefer the 3.6S reload of the turret which leads onto the MT25 but i guess it depends on the playstyle

royal charm
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Oh ye. The Xmas event starts in 3 days or so too

frigid compass
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i wonder why the IS-8 has a completely WORSE turret compared to the IS-5

solid gate
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i bought the BDR G1 whatever(the heavy after B1)but i struggle with it,it's like the kv1 on the front,identical weakpoint places

narrow shadow
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BDR G1B is trash, just like everything in the french tech tree up to T7, except for ARL 44

royal charm
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Isnt ARL 44 the one with giant cupola

frigid compass
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stock? yes
maxed? no

solid gate
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i noticed that hh,the amx elc bis line isn't that bad tho,i recently got the 12 75,such a fun tank

royal charm
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Nvm wrong tank

frigid compass
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ARL-44 stock has your grandpa's shed as a turret

royal charm
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ELC Bis doesnt have PC top gun either

frigid compass
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ARL-44 has a gun worthy of penetrating the Tiger 2 at tier 6

narrow shadow
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Remove the top gun from ARL 44 boom, problem solved

solid gate
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btw,how does ammoracking and hitting the engine work?i know where they are on some tanks,but it simply doesn't hit it?

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like last match i had 2 ammoracks,i don't even know how,maybe using adrenaline did something?

frigid compass
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the second to top 90mm isnt even bad either so that would be fine

narrow shadow
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I know, but it has 150 less DPM, so it'd be a step in the right direction

frigid compass
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basically around same dpm as the german 88s

narrow shadow
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Yeah, and with the weak turret ARL gets, it'd be on par with VK36 I think

frigid compass
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or be worse

narrow shadow
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Not rly, it still has stronger hull and is much faster

frigid compass
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but it cant sidescrape and doesnt have basically a tiger p mantlet

narrow shadow
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Yeah, it still has a better gun tho. Seems to be about equal

frigid compass
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i guess ye

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i wonder why does the VK 36 have a 50kmh top speed

narrow shadow
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It used to be a medium tank with 20 hp/t

frigid compass
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you're only gonna reach it if you throw it off a cliff or if wg brings back uprising

royal charm
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I drove the TOG 2 in Uprising

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Almost 5,000 HP lmao

frigid compass
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Dracula in uprising was the bane of my existence

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damn thing avoided every 1K HE i shot at it and most of the damage my team did to it and ran away

solid gate
narrow shadow
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E100 line

frigid compass
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Tiger P is a nice tank but the next tanks are meh while E-100 line has 2 very good tanks at under tier 9

solid gate
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what kind of playstyles are they for?

frigid compass
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Heavy

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Tiger 2 is basically a no skill tier 8 heavy rn

solid gate
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ah alright that sounds exactly like a tank i need

minor mica
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If the t-22 were to be on stores would it be worth getting ?

solid gate
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i'm not sure if i should go back to the M7 and grind for the Sherman

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and go back with the british tanks to the crusader and earn the 7k i need for the firefly

latent crane
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The panther line should be really good on such small maps

solid gate
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i suck at the VK 30.01

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it doesnt suit my playstyle but i'll see if i can do anything with it as the Panther is one of my favorite irl tanks

bright folio
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I assume that you mean VK 30 d, not VK 30 H or P.

royal charm
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Uh yeah meant to ask, how are the European tanks

solid gate
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yes,i mean the D

bright folio
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I’m up to t6 and they’re meh.

narrow shadow
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T6 T7 are ok, T8 T10 are a bit OP T9 is broken

royal charm
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How are T4 and T5

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Also good broken or bad broken

narrow shadow
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I've played one game on the T4 and it seems to suck bad, the gun is terrible

bright folio
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The t5 is an underwhelming med with 15 degrees gd.

royal charm
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What does "broken" mean? Prone to malfunction?

narrow shadow
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Very OP

royal charm
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Will the engine break every 15 seconds for no reason? That is broken

bright folio
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Generally, it refers to them being Game-breaking.

royal charm
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So it crashes the game?

solid gate
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not literally

bright folio
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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.

solid gate
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it breaks the balance of gameplay anyways

royal charm
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Is it a fun tank and a good tank or not?

solid gate
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it's usually fun for the user,not so fun for the others hh

bright folio
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It’s probably fun to play. It’s not fun to play against.

royal charm
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Thanks thats what I asked for

solid gate
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Is it worth to go for the european line?most Lago users i've seen are the first to die lol

royal charm
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Well from what I heard the last 3 tanks in the line are the best in the entire game

solid gate
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hmm

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dunno,i'll see what can i grind tomorrow,i got 75k xp with the t1 heavy,which is more than every other tank combined hh

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gotta go sleep now,school is in like 7h

frozen mural
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8 9 10 ares must haves

glass relic
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Well low tiers are completely filled with new comers so.. you can't expect much from Lago players since most of them are newcomers trying to get the new pan European t10 probably.

royal charm
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Yup low tier MM is atrocious, even more in Lago

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Had to free xp to Str, at least this one is reliable

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Wait when were Italian tanks added? September?

elfin meadow
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5.2 I believe so yes

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I think my maths correct at least

calm inlet
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6.2 yeah

zealous anchor
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When is Blitzfair usually? In December?

tulip sail
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late december

quick thicket
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When is the update? I heard it’s coming very soon.

tulip sail
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it comes when they anounce it

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now that im done being a smart tail they havent anounced it so it could be 2 weeks or 2 months

quick thicket
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It’s suppose to come before the event tho?

tulip sail
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no clue

minor mica
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Watch it be tomorrow morning

elfin meadow
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The update is always the Wednesday of the month that’s around the mid teens

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So this week

minor mica
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Noice

quick thicket
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Ty @elfin meadow

tulip sail
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they would have anounced it if it was this week though

quick thicket
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Also true

elfin meadow
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They usually do the say before

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With the in game news article and then the video on Yt

solid gate
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Privet

gentle wasp
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Comrade

rocky gazelle
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Heads up for the next update?
What's gonna be in it?

slow goblet
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Sparkles and banana chips

rocky gazelle
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Nice thx

solid gate
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Waiting game is painful

solid trench
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6.6 in 18.12 and hopefully the event to starting from 18

regal zealot
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I bet the event starts on Friday, like the Uprising mode

tender hornet
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I'll make a guess that WG will announce the update patch tomorrow and Wednesday will be the update release. Then friday is when the event will start

stuck torrent
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I think that will be sold on the blitz fair

stuck torrent
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@subtle mason is tht ur realy profile picture of u?

dapper panther
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VK 168. Is it any good? opinions?

rigid thunder
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garbage

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it's a bad VK 100.01 P, by a considerable margin

dapper panther
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please explain it further. Why garbage? pros and cons

rigid thunder
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Pros : everything the VK 100.01 P is good at

dapper panther
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I see it's a downscaled MƤuschen, with the turret in the front

rigid thunder
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Cons: Worse side armour, worse turret armour, cupola is weaker, slower

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oh it also has a bow MG weakspot on the front plate

dapper panther
feral ore
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Not sure if the mg port is a weak spot

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The lower plate is considerably bad imo. Anything can pen it

dapper panther
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hmm #2

according to Blitzhangar.com:

  • Cupola:
    VK168 (120mm) < VK100 (175mm) < MƤuschen (200mm)

  • MG tumor on upper front plate
    VK168 has 140mm, VK100 doesnt even have one, Mauschen's not showing on the website

  • Lower front plate
    VK168 = VK100 (100mm) < MƤuschen (168mm)

rigid thunder
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turret cheeks are also gigantic and only 230mm thick'

crude gorge
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vk 168 is probably one of the worst, if not the worst premium wg has ever released

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this tank is like worse than the vk 100 in almost every aspect

woven stone
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And it looks strange

halcyon thunder
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wz blaze when it first came out was probably worse

frigid compass
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@crude gorge hmms in Tog

bright folio
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The only two things that the VK 168 has are alpha and the ability to reverse sidescrape.

frigid compass
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VK 168.01(P) looks like what tesla would have built if they made tanks

rocky gazelle
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@frigid compass how do I forget TOG exists...

frigid compass
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the long hp pinata boi

bright folio
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@frigid compass The tog has high DPM, a very good gun, and a lot of health, forcing the enemy to chew through it. The tog can also reverse sidescrape very well.

frigid compass
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it has like the same dpm of a med tank

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and meds are awfully common in lower tiers

rocky gazelle
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@bright folio man if only every TOG players understand such theory

frigid compass
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and a shot from the awfully common SU-100Y will take out 1/3 of the Tog's HP

bright folio
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A tog platoon is something to watch out for

frigid compass
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if i see a tog in the enemy team im very happy

rocky gazelle
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@bright folio platoon? I believe you call it TOG FLEET

frigid compass
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easy damage

bright folio
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A tog fleet would be 2 tog platoons.

rocky gazelle
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@bright folio that'd be the whole Navy

bright folio
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Fair enough.

solid gate
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What are You Think about kpfpz?

valid lodge
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Hyper hulldown tog toon is scary. If you can get it to where only the turret is shown. You and your buddy can slaughter everyone since anything with the pen/accuracy to reliably hit through your turret without hitting the gun is going to be an easier target to slaughter. The derps will have a much harder time

I like my kpfpz but it often shoots for under 500, most often 450 a shot. Had to stop playing it because I've only been getting matched against tier X for the past few weeks when using it.

solid gate
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Thanks

valid lodge
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Tempted to get the vk 168 but it's mildly higher than i want to spend. Wanted to pay 8500 for it. Looking at its stats in relation to the vk 100, it's much worse and the high score dmg for it is only 2500 with 68 players. It's seems like a bad tank, but same time it's not an op tank and i wanted to reward that. Plus i don't even have the vk 100

bright folio
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As someone who has the vk 100, it's disappointing to play.

valid lodge
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I don't think they should have nerfed the vk 100's cupola

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Eventually i will get the vk 168 for collecting reasons. Probably best to just wait until it does drop to a lower price

solid gate
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tips for the M6?

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wanna grind for the t29

kindred wren
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I can’t quite remember, but I think that it is ok at sidescraping and fairly effective when hulldown, whenever that is possible

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But from what I’ve heard they buffed it, so you might be able to bounce with your front now as well

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Though I haven’t taken a look at that tank in a while, so better take what I say with a lot of salt

bright folio
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The m6 can at least force most tanks it faces not t7 to switch to prammo, or take their time aiming.

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Through the front that is.

solid gate
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What is the Best tank? Tier x

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Pls

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?

lyric oriole
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IS-4

raw otter
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Foch and the Progetto

solid gate
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Thank

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I have got fv215b 183 and its nice tank

rigid thunder
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the 183 is the worst tier 10 rn lol

solid gate
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I mean noo

stable pasture
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How much do tier 6 tanks cost in credits? I tried to see in the game, I didn't find it.

lyric oriole
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Again... As I said, about 955k

stable pasture
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Only? I have a feeling it's too cheap to be true. I can make that much money with Leopard in a very short time, I thought they cost around two millions.

valid lodge
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Yes tier 6 is less than 1million

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My Ind pz (tier 8) cost 2.3million

kindred wren
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You are correct

stable pasture
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Very good for me I guess

reef mountain
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idk can somebody tell me who is balancing vehicles in this game ? Because i think it is somebody who dont know what is going on in this game...

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or how can i write to him (via support/in-game) to discuss

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no offense of course

kindred wren
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No... no... and no

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Oh and, the balancing in Blitz might seem a little odd on the surface, but if you look at the greater picture of the tier and the tank (as well as maps) most tanks make sense

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Unless they are stock. Then nothing makes sense

viral lodge
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When comparing tanks you compare maxed though ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

kindred wren
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Yeah, that was just a quick shoutout to all those stock grinders

viral lodge
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They are probably someone who got derped

reef mountain
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@kindred wren so tell me

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u thinking that foch155 is balanced ? and u thinking tiger2 is balanced ?

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I dont think so

kindred wren
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No, I don’t think that they are well-balanced

bright folio
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One thing that I have with people complaining about vehicle balance here is that it isn't an easy task, and testing won't show everything.

stable pasture
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If you zoom in on the tank tube of Grille 15 you will see skull

reef mountain
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XDDDDD

normal violet
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beka

brisk vine
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Lol

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T26E4 Super Pershing gets penned by HEAT in his spaced armour even by tier 7. WHY ?! <@&510077723264286720>

reef mountain
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Because this game is balanced. Thanks

solid gate
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Have you never heard of lower plate or hatches

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@wise moth

lyric oriole
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@brisk vine spaced armor doesn't stop HEAT shells

wise moth
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^

reef mountain
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xD

lyric oriole
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It just greatly decreases the penetration

brisk vine
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Ok

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@lyric oriole

lyric oriole
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Yes

brisk vine
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Why even tier 7 ?

median oak
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It depends on the pen

brisk vine
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Ye. Why even tier 7 ? Thwy have such good pen ?

lyric oriole
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What shot you

viral lodge
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^^ that’s real question

prime vale
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Why does the cheiftan t95 have apfsds but the cheiftain mk6 doesnt?

abstract heath
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@prime vale it does

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@prime vale they just named it apcr

prime vale
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On the blitz hanger it says apds

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And apds du

abstract heath
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@prime vale ik but the l11a1 fired sub caliber apfsds

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@prime vale it's just that wg named it apds

prime vale
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Oof

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U think they will sell mk6 again?

abstract heath
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Maybe, from the last I saw and got it was Christmas

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Oh nvm the L15 a4 is APDS, but the premium has to be apfsds DU, I dont think that the L15 was developed with a DU core

wise moth
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@prime vale It’s because the Chieftain/T95 historically has a smoothbore gun, and the Chieftain mk6 has a rifled gun. The fin stabilization of APFSDS isn’t necessary if the gun is rifled

prime vale
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Woah I thought WG didnt do smoothbore guns

wise moth
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@prime vale They don’t, which is why the gun name in the garage says ā€œ(rifled)ā€, but historically it’s a smoothbore, so it shoots APFSDS

prime vale
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Ah ok

solid gate
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Wow. So Wargaming took a liberty with the Chieftain/T95?

tulip sail
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its not the first or last time they do that

solid gate
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It’s still a wonder why the UK chose a rifled gun yet still developed APFSDS for it

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I’m looking at you chally 2

solid gate
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Hello! So what tier six tank is your favorite? If your not a 6 player I understand. The reason for driving the tie 6 tank. And why? Plz

simple thorn
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arl 44. nice gun. great hull armour (turret has weakspots infront). good speed. 10° gun depression.

elfin orbit
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I thought UK rifled barrels were better for HESH?

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Since the spin helps to spread out the explosive

tulip sail
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the E8 or loza because not only are they fun but also historically interesting

rocky gazelle
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@solid gate E2, Firefly, Sentinel, T150 (I sold it. Regret it), Jackson, Chi-To

solid gate
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T150 you can get back. It is a good tank. You can send a ticket. Just have the gold.

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T150 was solid. And still is.

grave mauve
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It isn't even released and I already hate the Sheridan. You physically cannot fight it... It's an artillery no matter how you try to work around it. It doesn't have to be spotted to hit you with a missile for a third of your health. Why did wg think this was a good idea?

rocky gazelle
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@solid gate wait really? How?

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@grave mauve so my skepticism is correct, after all..

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More cancer

solid gate
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You got a player support you send in a ticket under tank restore it’ll ask you which tank and tell you how much it is and make sure that you got the gold in there

tulip sail
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any tank can hit you without being spotted its far from arty @grave mauve

rocky gazelle
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@solid gate neat

grave mauve
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@tulip sail Yes, but the missiles can go over buildings... for more than 500 damage...

solid gate
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

weak rune
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Trying to figure out the best tech tree, Britain, Germany, or USA?

rocky gazelle
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@weak rune no such thing as best tech tree.. it all depends.

weak rune
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oh

rocky gazelle
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Maybe what you mean is, "easier to get into"?

weak rune
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yea

rocky gazelle
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@weak rune the new Euro line looks versatile. Don't quote me on that, though, I haven't tried it.

weak rune
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neither have i

simple thorn
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germany=money and exp (not all but a lot make money and exp) USA is fun with the turrets on the heavies being thick and strong, also good speeds and guns there. britian has HESH (high pen good dmg HE), not a lot of speed, not much armour (at least the TDs have a lot of armour but huge weakspots), also the biggest gun in the game.

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i grinded 10k exp in 5 battles in my ru 251 ._.

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which tank to get back. T49 or recover E25

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or jpanther II, amx 13 90, amx 50 100, t-54 ltwt, jagdpanther 8,8cm 2015 version (sold twice, extremely rare).

neat nimbus
warm snow
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VK 168 worth it? or wait for christmas stuff

rigid thunder
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no, very not worth it

quick thicket
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Just get the tech tree one

scarlet nest
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VK 168 looks even worse then tech tree one

calm inlet
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don’t get it

alpine notch
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Why 168.01 P when you can get 100.01 P from tech tree...

languid needle
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Basically a maus driving in reverse

alpine notch
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Duh, its just front-turreted Mauschen

raw zenith
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@wise moth I’m intrigued, tell me about this 350x4 batchat

opaque frigate
wise moth
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@opaque frigate 353 vs. HEAT, 340 vs. APCR, ~326 vs. AP

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@raw zenith it’s nothing but a dream

opaque frigate
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Ok thanks

vital elm
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Why is he hetzer so slow i cant get way from enemies in battle

zenith ruin
tight thunder
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Nice

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I’m getting it after christmas

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And also VK.168.01 (P)

quick thicket
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Don’t get the vk 168 @tight thunder

tight thunder
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Why?

quick thicket
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If you haven’t heard already everyone is saying it sucks and it’s overpriced. The tech tree vk 100 is much better

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Trust me, save your gold for the blitz fair, you can probably get a much better tank for a lower price too. @tight thunder

valid lodge
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That's one of the sad things about the Vk 168.

So many people complained about premiums being better than their tech tree counterparts. People were saying premiums should be weaker than their tech tree counterparts and only have better credit coefficient.

Wg made a premium that's exactly that, but then shot themselves in foot by making it too expensive.

quick thicket
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It doesn’t always matter, I believe that not every single premium should be better than tech tree counterparts, but when you slap a 15,000 gold price tag on it your expectations tend to be higher than if that tank costed 7k gold for example.

rigid thunder
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Premiums being weaker than their tech tree counterparts is better, but the VK 168.01 P is not only incredibly expensive, but worse in every single possible way, there's not a single advantage over the 100.01

rigid thunder
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WZ-120-1G FT and Skorpion G are all good tanks

tight thunder
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So

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What should i then do with 100€?

opaque frigate
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@tight thunder buy gold you'll never know when you have a lot of elite Exp

rigid thunder
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they both have different playstyles, but I can tell you for sure that they'll be very expensive

fast compass
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I am pretty sure wz has only come for money. Skorpion was 17.5k gold last time.

tame jungle
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Scorpion if you enjoy long distance combat

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Wz if you like brawling

deep ivy
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@zenith ruin it is one of the best trolling tanks you will ever drive.

Now I got a question
Since today the E25 bundle came into store
Is it actually worth it to buy it just for the E25 and its camo,

I got lowe but not its camo

crude gorge
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american t34?

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well here is my personal loadout for the american t34: rammer, improved modules, optics, gun laying drive, enhanced armor, engine accelerator, vstab, toolbox and a consumable delivery system

plucky merlin
#

Tips for m103?

narrow shadow
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Basically push fast into a hulldown position and play from there. And you are not pinned to it like with T32, cuz the hull can also bounce sometimes. @plucky merlin

plucky merlin
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Ahh thanks appriciate it

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Bt sv is a fun tank just sold it for the gold cuz i get it back right?

narrow shadow
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It plays like a more flexible IS8, and more aggresive Conqueror if you played those

elfin meadow
#

What’s the sell price of the BT SV? If anyone knows

glass relic
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1k gold

plucky merlin
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Did 4.5k dmg with it without it being maxed out

elfin meadow
#

tnx

rigid thunder
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you can find out the sell prices of tanks on blitzhangar

smoky tinsel
violet stream
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My second tier 9 is going to be the E-75, any advice before I get it? Yes I'm a nub at blitz

zenith folio
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I'd say play it like tiger 1 u can't class it in my opinion as a heavy or a medium your gonna have to take an active roll in both those @violet stream

narrow shadow
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Free xp the turret right away @violet stream

bright folio
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Grab that 128mm gun as soon as you can after the turret.

narrow shadow
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But the stock gun is actually usable, 285 APCR is better than most stock tanks get.

sly stream
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Any word on buffing the WZ-120? maybe a bit more gun depression?

kindred wren
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It already received a buff last update

bright folio
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I thought that was the case.

solid gate
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Is3 needs a buff.

faint marsh
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its fine where it is tbh

kindred wren
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Read the EULA...
To cut it short, no

solid gate
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Ok

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Thanks

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Is3 gets pen by almost everything. While is3 can't pen tiger 2 , m6a2,and others

wise moth
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@solid gate Bruh. IS-3 has the strongest turret in the game, and the best pen of all tier 8 IS tanks

narrow shadow
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Well actually, the the HEAT IS tanks have 270 on HEAT, with cali it's 297, and since it's HEAT it pens many spots AP can't. I say the pen is arguable.

solid gate
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50TP Protope will be another prem. tank yaaaeey

sly stream
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@kindred wren thx didn't know about 120 buff

signal rampart
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Is the BT SV also free for existing accounts?

calm inlet
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i mean, it’ll be gifted to everyone, so yeah

woven stone
#

What do you guys think is the worst premium tank?

kindred wren
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Ke-Ni Otsu

woven stone
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I think it is the VK168.01(P)

kindred wren
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I am serious. The Ke-Ni Otsu is the worst premium tank because it is obviously op and can’t be nerfed at all, nor made a collectable

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Guaranteed imbalance

tight thunder
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Everyone who enters the game between 23rd of December and 3rd of January will recive a christmas box with a BT-SV in it.

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They even Say it in they’re latest vid

royal charm
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Can someone tell me anything about BT SV? How good is it?

bright folio
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It appears to be the kind of tank you play for 2-3 battles and then sell and move on.

neat nimbus
#

yep

royal charm
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How does it compare to LTP?

tame jungle
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Better

royal charm
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Wait really?

tame jungle
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Imagine a bt7

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With troll sloped armor all around

royal charm
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The LTP and BT 7 arty are the only collectors I kept

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If thats the case I might keep the BT SV too, if its fun šŸ¤”

tame jungle
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It’s a fast lil tank too

royal charm
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How does BT SV compare to Tog II?

tame jungle
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Tog always wins

royal charm
#

What about Mauschen

tame jungle
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Tog wins again

royal charm
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XD

tame jungle
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Tog ALWAYS wins

royal charm
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TOG II best tank I agree

tame jungle
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Tog in uprising was legit broken

royal charm
#

Fun fact - I dont remember buying Tog

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It is in my garage, but for the love of God, I have no idea where, when or how I acquired it

tame jungle
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You don’t buy tog

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It merely appears

royal charm
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I couldnt find any transaction for it in my emails either

viral lodge
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Probably crate?

royal charm
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Anyway it was fun in Uprising. 5000 HP

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@viral lodge no, I only got Pz S35 and AC IV Sentinel from crates

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Most likely bought with gold discount coupon

tame jungle
#

Speaking of which ozone, wanna do a tog platoon

royal charm
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You son of a beach, Im in

tame jungle
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Same name as here

royal charm
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DM me

bright folio
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I kept the BT-7 arty because it was that tank that kept me playing this game several years ago.

last sun
royal charm
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I want Swedish and Czech tanks

robust copper
#

BT-7 arty is such a bad tank now, it can’t pen anything

lyric oriole
#

BT-7ART is still plenty strong, so long as you are using Calibrated shells it has plenty of HE Penetration

empty frigate
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plz dont nerf it im bagging you its my fav tank

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add a sturmtiger instead

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BT7 art should be a KV2 in lambroghini

last sun
#

When will we have strv hydraulic tanks?

tulip sail
#

No

solid gate
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I love that simple answer

tulip sail
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Wg announced that they arnt adding swedish tds

quick thicket
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Do you guys know how much gold the BT-SV sells for?

zinc condor
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1k

brittle elbow
#

that's a lot

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but WG is prob gonna make it down to 50 like the Pz 3a

zinc condor
#

I think BT-SV was a prem before, that might explain the high trade value for gold

calm inlet
#

yes

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it will be 1k

quick thicket
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Holy crap 1k gold, what a great gift WG has given us.

glass otter
#

^^^^

last sun
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@tulip sailwhat do you mean no?

tulip sail
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I mean there not coming

blissful rune
#

Might just keep it for seal clubbing

last sun
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Hmmm... Why?

neat nimbus
#

should i buy the amx 50 100?

last sun
#

Its not like i asked for artillery which is dumb.

spark dove
#

Guys im confused

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Why does the Lycan say it has 296 armor

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Im assuming its because its the way its angled right? I mean it only has 100mm
I say only bc im comparing it to other t7 heavies

tulip sail
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@last sun bc wg said there not adding it

deep ivy
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@neat nimbus if u like paper armor burst fire you should. Get top gun asap though

fringe notch
#

AMX 50 100 is pretty good but the AMX 50 120 that follows it is excellent...

... provided, as Dragonlord says, you can handle a tank with a HUGE profile and no armour at all. Even mediums can usually HE your sides.

last sun
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@tulip sailok....

solid gate
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@fringe notch 50 120 is the only tank in the line which you cannot HE it's sides if you are a medium, even some heavies

fringe notch
#

My mistake. All my favourite tanks have HESH as their HE ammo. Thinking of Cent 7/1, Standard B which have 100+mm pen HE. OTOH, with cal shells, both E 50 and WZ-120 can pen 50 120 with HE behind the tracks, as long as they can thread the needle and hit the hull and not the tracks.

scarlet nest
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Weeeell standard B have capped HE shell
Yeah but anyway you like high pen shell i guess

rancid mauve
#

Gun Rammer or CS for T-62A?

narrow shadow
#

CS

rancid mauve
#

CheersšŸ»

glass otter
#

Calibrated is better than GR for most mediums

violet stream
#

Working towards the 268 for my first tier 10, is it good? I've been told it's more of a passive TD.

zealous anchor
#

Good camo and fantastic pen

deep ivy
#

@violet stream if you ask me the best first time tank is, and always will be, Maus

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Or panzerkampfwagen 8 Maus

stoic dawn
#

Help idk how to play the chi-to

kindred wren
#

Maus is the best first time tank?

mental patio
#

Debatable

kindred wren
#

The tank is not easy to play, and not intuitional at all

narrow shadow
#

Chi to is useless tank

rigid thunder
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Nah, requires a pretty decent amount of skill to angle properly

narrow shadow
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It's trash in everything but the gun, which is just average at best

kindred wren
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If you don't play a tank like it needs to played it will always be useless

narrow shadow
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Well the tank is huge, paper and not fast, while not having a very good gun. How does that make it not useless ? PZ 4 S has MILLION TIMES better gun, some troll armour on the turret, it's about as fast and moreover can't even be HEd from the side. I don't see a single advantage for chi to

kindred wren
#

So back to comparing tanks, I guess?

narrow shadow
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I'm just saying the tank is terrible for a T6 medium tank, that's true and I hope we can agree on that

kindred wren
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I'm certain that nobody would accuse the Chi-To of being a strong medium

narrow shadow
#

Looking at the T6 meds, I consider the Chi to the worst of them all objectively

kindred wren
#

It may be the worst, but I don't think that it is bad on a level that makes it unplayable

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It's more like a semi-upgraded tank

narrow shadow
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I had to spend like 20k free XP to skip it, cuz playing it any longer would damage my sanity I think. Same for Chi nu, both of those tanks are terrible

kindred wren
#

I think the Chi-Nu is better tier for tier than the Chi-To

narrow shadow
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Chi to at least has somewhat average gun, chinu even has the worst DPM out of all the T5 meds afaik

eager pine
#

Why is the T8 German TD the jgpz II, which didn’t exist, and not the elefant, which did exist?

kindred wren
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But anyways, if there are no bad tanks there wouldn't be good tanks either, so I take it as a necessary evil for variety and a challenge

inland osprey
#

Elefant is Ferdinand, sorta

kindred wren
#

There's the Ferdinand which is basically the same as the Elefant (just with a machine gun or without one, it was some minor difference like that)

crude gorge
#

talking about the ferdinand why is ferdinand’s average win rate so high

narrow shadow
#

Magic

crude gorge
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3rd highest of all tier 8

narrow shadow
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Very big magic

inland osprey
#

Maybe there's only 5 players playing it, and they're all unicums

kindred wren
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Either because it is only played by hard-core collectors or because it is underrated

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I do think that it is underrated

eager pine
#

Why is the jagdpanther so bad...that thing was a beast

crude gorge
#

well yeah, you don’t see that thing often, they are replaced by the jpanther 2 s in most battles

inland osprey
#

JagII is more flexible, Ferdi dies if the team dies most of the time

crude gorge
#

ferdinand is like totally dependent on the team

kindred wren
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It's a tank that stands and falls with its flank

eager pine
#

Jagdpanther should be better. Maybe a camo buff would help

crude gorge
#

probably

inland osprey
#

Ferdi is just too slow tho

kindred wren
#

Wait, you say that it is already better, but because the player stats aren't good enough it should be even better?

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I can't quite follow the logic

crude gorge
#

ferdinand’s real life counterpart broke down several times while moving, did not managed to destroy a single tank in ww2

kindred wren
#

JagdPanther IIs real life counterpart... oh... that can't be... it didn't even exist????

crude gorge
#

the first one ever just broke down after 5 minutes of moving

kindred wren
#

Like not even on a blueprint?

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So just to break this down, real life is no argument here

crude gorge
#

i think so, probably pure fantasy

kindred wren
#

Even the Jg Pz E 100 is pure fantasy

crude gorge
#

there is a panther 2 but there is no jpanther 2

kindred wren
#

And the Panther II is also debatable

crude gorge
#

panther 2 has a prototype i think

kindred wren
#

That thing is like on the edge of being acceptable as a historical vehicle

narrow shadow
#

Ferdinand was such a stupid design, just as all the 'superheavies'

feral ore
#

The thing is the jpanther 2 wasn’t ever a real tank and only thought of as a concept but never created nor was there any blueprints and the ferd was used to destroy t34s which it was good at

kindred wren
#

Ferdinand was an easy solution to Ferdinand being a little too enthusiastic

feral ore
#

However the anti tank mines and mechanical failures did suck too much

narrow shadow
#

You have a tank that broke down during the trials, it got stuck in the mud and had to be helped by it's competitor to get out.. And then you take the already severely underpowered tank hull, give it a MASSIVE 200mm armour superstructure and call it a TD. Yeah, CLAP CLAP german engineering

kindred wren
#

Ferdinand Porsche, that is. he started production before his Tiger was even approved

feral ore
#

What a nut

inland osprey
#

Ferdinand is probably a way to sorta "reuse" those failed Tiger chassis

feral ore
#

Yeah that’s what it was used for. They had already created lots of hulls and porche decided to put an anti tank gun on it. The tiger h design was better than the p design

crude gorge
#

they refused to believe that ferdinand is a complete failure so they went on and produced like 91 of these

feral ore
#

Although hitler actually approved of the tiger p over the tiger 1. He only chose the tiger 1 cause it didn’t break down on the testing day

raven spade
#

They alse improved the speed of P.43 bis

crude gorge
#

it feels like as if 75% of german tanks did not even get to go on the testing range

raven spade
#

I agree

feral ore
#

Rip e100 hull. Thanks Britain for scrapping it

raven spade
#

?

strong phoenix
#

Yeah wtf Britain

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Ur not allowed to do that

narrow shadow
#

Yeah wtf britain, why didu scrap the most useless tank they could have found?

raven spade
#

What vehicle could we possibly get on 25 th December on Christmas eve.????

#

I doubt it that everyone is not gonna get one

feral ore
#

The wallet thief tank

raven spade
#

Name?

feral ore
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The wallet thief tank

raven spade
#

Ok

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Thewargamingxclusivetankonchrisasevewhichisathief

feral ore
#

Yes that one

strong phoenix
#

Yes

raven spade
#

Probably one of them

strong phoenix
#

I don’t think we will get a tank on the 25

#

We will get a chance to buy a tank

feral ore
#

We’ll just get what we get. Take advantage of the auction

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They have some pretty cheap tanks during the auction

strong phoenix
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Yes

crude gorge
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i wanted them to give us permanent certificates so my grinding to the e3 would be a lot faster

feral ore
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Got the kp and tankenstein for a reasonable price last year

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Imagine not getting those during the events 2 years ago

crude gorge
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i was off

feral ore
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And the event a month ago

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Wait not a month ago the Black Friday event

crude gorge
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doesn’t help that it is temporary and i don’t have all the time in the world to play

feral ore
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Well you couldn’t grind them but ok

crude gorge
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oh i did not buy anything so yeah nothing for me at all

feral ore
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Rip

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Alright boys

crude gorge
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i was broke on gold like 250 at the time and i was pretty busy so yeah

feral ore
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Update is now @strong phoenix

livid vale
eager pine
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Ferdinand had 10:1 KDR IRL

bright folio
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When all it did was sit 2.5 km away and shoot at the waves of soviet tanks overrunning everything, it's not surprising.

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The Ferdinand is rather underrated. The gun arc is good, the armor can procure some bounces, and the gun is by no means worst of the t8 td guns.

alpine notch
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Ferdinand over Jagdpanther II? Yes, because it teaches you how to angle properly with that raw armor values, and it should goes well if for playing the next tank, Jagdtiger

alpine idol
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Ive been wanting the e25 for quite some time now. Is the offer in the shop good? Two tanks for 15$

bright folio
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Interesting. Blitzhangar lists the vk 90 as having the reticle calibration consumable.

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Also, the Ho-Ri is in blitzhangar.

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It looks to be rather mobile, with a 149mm gun, good camo, and decent dispersion.

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The armor is decent enough to not make it a giant HE target for every gun it comes across.

solid gate
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whats a good strategy for the vk 36.01h?

dapper panther
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"Foch 155 - damage per shot nerf and rate of fire buff;
Progetto 65 - dynamics, accuracy, aiming and stabilization nerf;
Standard B - accuracy and stabilization nerf.
sad violin noises

spark basin
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lets buff the foch 155's autoloader gun to have even more dpm than the single shot gun

small zodiac
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When will the atgm tanks come out?

wise moth
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Guys... Foch is NOT getting a DPM buff. It's an alpha nerf, but the RoF is being increased to compensate. If anything, it could be a DPM nerf

dapper panther
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i know what they say

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i'm sad cuz these are 2 more tier 10's that I can grab only after their nerfs

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FV4005, grille, T57

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more so, they'll nerf the HE splashes in the next update (even if that was an unintentional exploit), indirectly nerfing the 183 even further

worn forge
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Bang

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Bang

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A Strv m/42 has came round the corner.

solid gate
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Bang
Bang they shot him down

livid vale
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FV101 Scorpion as a tier 10 british med or light(prefer med) tech tree after centurion med

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Add more light tanks !

tulip sail
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No offense but I dont see the fv101 to be a medium

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And with a 76mm gun I also dont think it would fair well in t9

solid gate
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That’s an abrams aswell

tulip sail
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Wait what? The image wouldn't load

plucky citrus
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add a7v

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WW1 A7V heavy tank pls

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add it šŸ˜„

tulip sail
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While it would be cool it would also be entirely rekt by the t1s unless they did another mk1 event and added the a7v that way

plucky citrus
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yah lol

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tho i would only get it for the history

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wish i was playing WoTz on September 2014 because of the MK 1 land ship

zenith ruin
tulip sail
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@zenith ruin my guess would be an active light for ir (like the m60 has

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That or a range finder

plucky citrus
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e

halcyon thunder
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@subtle mason if its the t8 wz prem then it makes sense, wz is very short

narrow shadow
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Are you new here? @subtle mason

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Explains

bright folio
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The skorpion has a turret, which is a huge help to setting up shots. I'm not saying that the WZ is worse-it isn't, but there is reason to pick the skorpion.

livid vale
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both of them are good tanks šŸ˜„

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i would use wz like a combat td, and skor a sniper

zenith ruin
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@tulip sail
It spoils the look of the turret. I don't mind the machine gun cupola but that thing makes it ugly.

tulip sail
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Rarely do militaries care about aesthetics

bright folio
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I can't be the only one who looks at the victory screen and sees amx elcs with the 90mm gun, right?

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Although I might be late to the party on this.

modest verge
tulip sail
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@bright folio I honestly never noticed that

bright folio
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Considering that it's not a derpy gun, we probably don't need a gun with that much power at tier 5 on a tank that fast.

tulip sail
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It probably won't be t5 if added

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I'd guess t6 or t7

bright folio
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Honestly, it might be a t6 premium light.

tulip sail
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It could be or (preferably) the start of a new tech stick

bright folio
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That would be cool.

tulip sail
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Even though they used the French meds as premis the can always pull a jp2 and make something up

bright folio
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AMX ELC > AMX ELC 90mm > unidentified t7 > BC-12 T > unidentified t9 > AMX 13 105 or something like that?

tulip sail
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That could work

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Or have the 90mm be t7 and the t6 be the amx13 with an m24 turret

wise moth
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They should just add the 13 105 as an alternate to the BC AP

tulip sail
bright folio
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Frankly, put both of them in to confuse people.

tulip sail
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Lol they could also have one a premi one tech tree

bright folio
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Maybe add the AMX 13 FL11?

tulip sail
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That would be an interesting idea but I've got no idea what teir

bright folio
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The problem here is that we have 4 tanks, all which would make good tier 6 lights.

livid vale
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i like more tech tanks

bright folio
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So do we all, or at least more than more premiums.

tulip sail
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Yeah although a few we coupd hyper buff and make it a t7

livid vale
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agreed

bright folio
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Have the line start at t5. AMX 13 Chaffee(either one works) -> AMX ELC 90mm -> AMX 13 FL11 -> BC 12 T -> invent a t9 -> AMX 13 105.

livid vale
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šŸ˜

bright folio
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Make the BC 12 T something similar to an AMX 13 57, but at t8.

livid vale
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French meds?

bright folio
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Unfortunately, they're all premiums in this game.

livid vale
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British lights?

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, but better in wotb?

bright folio
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Maybe when we get more high-tier lights.

livid vale
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Akay

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german lights

solid gate
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kpf is kinda a light tank

narrow shadow
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It's not rly

solid gate
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ik but it feels like one

bright folio
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Maybe if you drive it right after driving a mauschen.

solid gate
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yea maybe

bright folio
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The problem with high-tier lights for wotb is that a lot of the t9 wot lights are t8 lights in blitz.

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T49, RU 251, T-54 Ltwt, and AMX 13 90 are all t9 in wot. This requires that WG has to invent new t9 lights for wotb, such as the t92e1.

wise moth
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@bright folio They all used to be tier 8s on PC too, but WG uptiered them to tier 9 (which I really don't want for Blitz)

solid gate
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i think they are running out of ideas or maybe they want to sell more lights in the shop

wise moth
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Honestly, WG should just have the tier 10 lights branch off the tier 9 mediums

solid gate
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exactly

tulip sail
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That could work

bright folio
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^

tulip sail
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Although there very well could be a tank that could be t9 but I just dont know about it yet

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(French tanks aren't my forte especially post war)

neat nimbus
narrow shadow
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Yes its quite decent and M103 and E5 areb oth excellent too

soft torrent
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Right which is best tier X tank to buy for like 14.99-20 £

narrow shadow
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Neither

soft torrent
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Should I wait till more come out

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Huh @narrow shadow

narrow shadow
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I just don't think T10 prems and collectors are rly worth their huge price tags. You're not getting one for 15 pounds for sure

soft torrent
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There’s one out now a German one but I don’t like it really and it’s way to much effort to grind, I’ve grinded up to a t7 and that was hardddd

tulip sail
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That's t9

simple thorn
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i dont play pc tho so i cant play such a tonk

tulip sail
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It looks so impractical

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I love it

solid gate
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Is this the actual kpz 70

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That front box and rear hatch look oddly familiar

tulip sail
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Why the second turret then

solid gate
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In all honesty it’s just a fatter progetto

tulip sail
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I can see that

neat nimbus
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any tips for the p.43 ter?

tawny wharf
scarlet nest
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Not yet but will

eager pine
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Anyone got M60? It’s the only tank in the event other than VK 90 that I don’t have

frigid compass
alpine idol
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Has anyone bought the e25 + Lowe bundle?

viral lodge
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I held off, I have the Lowe so im waiting to see if E25 shows in the auction.

alpine idol
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Yeah same. Do you know if the e25 will be for money or gold?
@viral lodge

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I didnt participate much in the auctions last year

viral lodge
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Auctions are for gold, and idk if it will show at the auction for not.

alpine idol
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Oh, ok. Im glad its for gold... hopefully its in the auction. Ive been saving up for several months now for the e25. Even if im a little bit of gold short, im hoping to buy some more

neat nimbus
alpine idol
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Why does it look so stretched out

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Maybe im thinking of another tank

soft torrent
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Is the e25 good ?

alpine idol
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I would say so. I like to call it a turret with wheels

soft torrent
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Lol

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I’m rockin the IS-6 rn but waiting for auction to grab another tank

alpine idol
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In pretty content with my current tanks and premiums. Im still hoping to get the AMX CDC (since i have the legendary camo) and the e25

viral lodge
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I really dont need many more prems, im just looking for things with unique playstyles

neat nimbus
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any ways im gonna sell it and see what discount i would get

soft torrent
viral lodge
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50 gold? I mean just keep watching daily ads

neat nimbus
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not menttion is occuping space

viral lodge
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True.

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I have 2k ish gold with that $3 dollar tier 2 collector deal so will prob sell one for a 2.5k gold crate

neat nimbus
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i sell it in case i want buy another one i dont like much get low tiers

viral lodge
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Yes, tier 5 If I remember correctly

neat nimbus
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well i got a eye for that one time ago probaly WG knew i would want it

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theres was a legendary camo for it?

soft torrent
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Wait so what’s a good tank that’s got good armour damage and speed that’s semi cheap ?

viral lodge
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"good armour damage and speed that is semi cheap"

frigid compass
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that reward is useless to me as i already have it

ornate path
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152 mm KV2 cannon... HE or AP?

hollow moth
last sun
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So i just bought the lowe and e25 bundle. How good is the lowe?

hollow moth
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A very good heavy @last sun

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It has a good DPM, a good pen, a useful hull armor, a strong turret

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I'll buy this bundle too

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The Lƶwe have a super good aim too

viral lodge
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I am holding off since I own the Lowe,

hollow moth
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You'll like it and love how it can prints money @last sun

viral lodge
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Lowe was my first Tier 8 premium so it holds a special spot.

rigid thunder
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The lowe makes the most amount of credits, and has what I'd say one of the best guns at tier 8. The mobility is lackluster, and the armour is workable. The gun depression it gets also helps to use this tank's strong turret

last sun
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Aah. Good to hear so many positive feedbacks

viral lodge
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Also does the Tier 7 E25 have 3.2k DPM?

last sun
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I noticed that the lowes aimtime is really good. Even if u move the reticule, its dispersion is really good

hollow moth
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@viral lodge it can have and you need adrenaline rush level 7, both chocolates, adrenaline and gun hammer

viral lodge
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šŸ¤” So your ally dies to it then you get shredded

last sun
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@viral lodgeits 3k dpm

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I just checked

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Wit full equipment and provisions

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Like eu said himself.

hollow moth
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Actually it's 3,2k

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Not only 3k

last sun
rigid thunder
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If you use both tier 7 adrenaline rush, rammer, double chocolate and the adrenaline consumable, your dpm goes to 4.2k

hollow moth
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Don't forget the adrenaline (consumable) effect and adrenaline rush (crew skill) level 7 @last sun

last sun
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😲

rigid thunder
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But for adrenaline rush to activate you'll need to have 10% or less of your HP pool

hollow moth
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15%*

rigid thunder
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oh it's 15?

hollow moth
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Ye

rigid thunder
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my life is a lie

hollow moth
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Anyways, E25 is one of the smallest tanks in game, fastest shoot of tier 7, light tank speed and one of the bests concealments of the game

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It's op when used right

viral lodge
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Sounds like a great flank harraser

hollow moth
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It makes T23e3 cries

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@viral lodge this tank is so small that a facehug on a KV-3 will be easy, KV-3 won't aim at you

viral lodge
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lol

last sun
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I have been annoyed by e25 sometimes

viral lodge
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I mean I always just ram them.

last sun
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Its low silhouette makes it impossible to hit for heavytanks.

hollow moth
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Kv3 hasn't enought gun depression to shoot an E25 in a facehug

viral lodge
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Matters which heavy.

last sun
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And the little bastard just keeps on pushing pumping that damage

hollow moth
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And they only stop shooting when you die

viral lodge
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I mean it will take about 20-30 seconds to kill a KV-3

last sun
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Most heavys are slow when reversing. And yes a skilled player can come out of that situation. No doubt.

hollow moth
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I give 15 seconds to an E25 kill a kv3 @viral lodge

viral lodge
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With adrenaline and perks

last sun
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With a team..much less.

viral lodge
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tbh KV-3 isnt that good.

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People just flank, shoot capolla, or prammo spam it

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

hollow moth
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Prammo spam? You don't know what is this, you should play on kv220t for feel the pain of prammo spam

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Well, btw i can't be mad at a prammo spammer against a kv220t, they will need it or they will die

molten scarab
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Shall I get the t49?

bright folio
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Prammo spam happens against Tiger 2s as well.

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@molten scarab That depends. What other tanks do you like? Can you deal with no armor? Do you like derp guns or not? Can you use the mobility effectively? I can't tell you to get a tank without knowing how you play and what you like.

last sun
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I have another question, was the lowe average say for like 1 year back and it got buffed in between?

rigid thunder
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It was buffed quite some time ago, but I'm unsure as to when. And back then, it was a pretty meh tank but still made a whole lot of credits

last sun
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Aww
I see
No wonder. You can say that it is not too bad and not too good now. Just like the american tiers.

bright folio
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The Lowe was always going to make great credits. That's what having a fantastic gun will give you.

viral lodge
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The Lowe is a tank that is pretty simple to play, it is great for credits, good gun, armour is workable, and mobility is ok.

bright folio
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My problem with the lowe is that it gets boring to play.

misty wing
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Still pissed that the 121 got renamed

rigid thunder
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How long ago was that lol

misty wing
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Like the update after it came out

bright folio
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Pretty much. It wasn't the 121 for long.

misty wing
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It's supposed to be 121 though, WZ-121 was a completely different tank

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@bright folio I'm sorry but the 168.01 is one of the coolest looking tanks in the game

rigid thunder
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that's fake news ^^^

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the 168.01 looks like garbage, and performs like garbage

last sun
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Lemme google it..😬

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Oh. That? Lol

bright folio
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It looks like the designers of the maus saw a TOG, and thought "You know what we need? We need one of those."

last sun
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Stats are avg. I had a run in with quite a few of them in the matches. The lowe made good work of them.

misty wing
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It looks so sick though, I love the double tracks and turret design

rigid thunder
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It looks like a mauschen that got knocked in the head as a child

last sun
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Even the alpha is average

misty wing
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The mauschen looks super cool too. Also the cupola makes the turret look a lot cooler

bright folio
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If you like the double tracks and the design of the turret, look at a mauschen.

rigid thunder
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super cool but super bad

bright folio
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The 168 looks like the autistic version of the Mauschen.

rigid thunder
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we don't joke about the a word around these parts

bright folio
#

Anyway, about the WZ-121, the 121b is the closest thing to the WZ-121 historically.(also known as the type 79)

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The WZ-121 as blitz knows it is closer to the WZ-122.

frigid compass
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Type 69 mate @bright folio

bright folio
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The type 69 had a 100mm gun.

frigid compass
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if it was Type 79 then it would have the highest pen in the game

bright folio
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The type 79, which was admittedly a modified type 69, which was admittedly a modified type 59, had a 105mm rifled gun.

frigid compass
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i guess

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imagine if APDS and APFSDS in wotb actually acted like they're supposed to though and also given proper pen instead of equal to pathetic AP shells

bright folio
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Also, it's an L7 105mm gun. The top tier british meds have the same gun.

minor mica
#

Is the t-22 Uncatchable good to buy off the blitz fair

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And is the vk 90.01 good to go for too ?

misty wing
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Yeah the 121B is basically a type 79

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The regular 121 is basically a fake tank that wg made

bright folio
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It has some correlation with the WZ-122, but not too much.

misty wing
#

59 Patton got tumor buff, right?

glass relic
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Yeah if i remember it has 180mm of armor on the cupola, if i remember

alpine notch
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@misty wing Really? I kinda forgot about it, the last tanks known to get buffed of cupolas respectively was Chieftain/T95 and T95E2 afaik

elfin orbit
#

Its fun to sit behind a hill and block shells with the sheer power of your face

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Watch out for isu though, theyll still lolpen your turret

spark basin
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eh most tier 8 tds go through your cheeks

elfin orbit
#

Isu moreso, but amx ac 48 is scary too

thick trout
#

For anyone who bought the E75 TS, why do you not play it? I haven't seen one in battle in ages but I don't really know why

rough fiber
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Look at ma boi, AMX ELC BIS, 100% manouver only, no damage, no armor

narrow shadow
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Cuz very few people bought it, it was $50 after all @thick trout

frigid compass
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$50 for a tank that was inferior compared to the Tiger 2

molten scarab
#

Is t49 high dmg tank for a tier 8

glass relic
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T49(lights with derps)

solid gate
#

Who like Leopard Tank?

shrewd basalt
#

What Leopard ?

solid gate
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The German Leopard @shrewd basalt

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Its tire V

shrewd basalt
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Nah I dont Like it since they make the Gun very Worst

solid gate
#

I love it, its my only V tank and my best tank i have

loud idol
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i hate dealing with leopards from far away

viral surge
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I dealt 2000 damage in the vk 30.01 p is that good enough