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rustic tulip
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Because wargaming balance

karmic basin
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Which is more broken the helsing or the dracula

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Imo they are equally as op

royal walrus
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Meh, those tanks are not that OP.

solid gate
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XD

scarlet nest
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Tier 7 one have only like 10sec of full reload time

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T8 one have slightly better Alpha per shell
But longer reload

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I kinda hope T8 amx gets 240 dmg per shell
Not 225

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Wait same cannon but different dpm?

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WTF

echo drift
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The type62 is awesome if you ask me. You do not need it if you have a dracula.

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The lttb is definetly more mobile but has less firepower. I love lttb

timid tangle
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why not 8tier????

echo drift
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Lol

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The 50 proto is a t8 wg. But that means 60TP is coming šŸ˜®šŸ”„

mortal maple
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Looks like another blob tank lol

sinful current
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Let's hope the tp don't stand for toilet paper like the 10TP and 14TP

vague gull
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šŸ¤”

dapper panther
dark socket
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I've been pretty hype about the Polish heavy tanks, I like the idea of the 60TP, a Russian like hull and 152mm gun

vague gull
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Ye but they ll prolly give it 560 alpha like in the KpfPz70

midnight dock
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For the atgm dose any one have any idea if its gonna act like a Flying premium HE shell or dead just a missel that can pen 300mm

scarlet nest
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Im surprised that this works so well

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Easy to pen t34's turret

hollow moth
scarlet nest
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F

hollow moth
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No polish tec tree?

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Nice, war gaming, your strategy to get more money is growing up

dark socket
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on PC it's a premium

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because it's the prototype version of the 50TP

scarlet nest
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Then can we still dream about polish HT tree...?

hollow moth
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I don't think put premiums like a "test" of a tec tree is a good idea, they should put the polish HT tree first for people know if they will like or no

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If they like the tree, so it won't be a bad waste of money

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I still waiting for news about more useful things on that new nation, because it's very empty

zinc seal
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It's a premium tank ? 50TP Tyszkiewicz and 130 mm gun top configuration is standard tank in blitz ?

hollow moth
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@zinc seal, until now they didn't say anything about 50TP Tyszkiewicz. They will add 50TP prototype

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Premium tanks, premium tanks and more premium tanks, can WG just say more news about new tec tree tanks? Let us know how jap TDs will work or something else

boreal mulch
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50 TP portotyp is a tier 9 and I cannot wait to see it. Malaysia have Polish tanks and I cannot wait to see a no-kurwa moment and Polish tank tech in Wotb.

sinful current
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Let's hope the 50TP isn't toilet paper like the 10TP and 14TP

boreal mulch
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@frank totem Twister fianlist,what do you think of 50TP prototyp?

dark socket
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why complain, I just simply roll with the punches, I don't care if they add premium tanks, it won't stop me from having fun in a tank like the KV-5

hollow moth
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"Let's hope the 50TP isn't toilet paper like the 10TP and 14TP"
And let's hope for it don't be OP too @sinful current

zinc seal
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wrong. I asked if the 50TP Prototype would be a premium tank and the 50TP Tyszkiewicz whether it would be a standard tank in Blitz with a 130 mm gun.

sinful current
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Reason why I said that cuz the 10TP and the 14TP gun/armor/mobility was absolutely trash and it was a waste of my time and credits

dark socket
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50TP Proto. is a premium on PC, the 50TP Tyskiewicz will probably still have the 130mm gun

sinful current
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Even though every time I played it I carried my team

dark socket
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@sinful current you are comparing Tier II and III's to a Tier IX heavy tank, it doesn't make sense to compare them at all

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I'm not trying to be condescending here

sinful current
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Yea ik but I'm just hoping it's not toilet paper where it's to easy to kill

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Cuz there is a few tanks likethat

bright folio
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It's a heavy tank that isn't french. It will have armor.

sinful current
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@bright folio I like the VK.168 and yes it's a weird looking tank but if you can use it properly you can get a lot of bounces

bright folio
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@sinful current I'm not saying that it's bad. I'm saying that it looks terrible.

sinful current
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It's a reverse maus man

bright folio
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And that's the problem.

boreal mulch
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But is 50TP proto a prem?

sinful current
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Yes

dark socket
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50TP Proto., not the Tyszkiewicz

boreal mulch
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WG will be bathing in money again because of 50TP proto.

tacit sundial
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LMAO

dark socket
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the same but different tank at the same time

sinful current
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Why blend in like the muas and the muaschian I rather have something different then everyone

tacit sundial
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when will WG release the ATGM tanks again?

boreal mulch
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ATGM is so unfair,man.

dark socket
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it's only HEAT shells that are Manually Guided Missiles

boreal mulch
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Lol really.HEAT is straight shell.

zinc seal
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Pls: 50TP which ATGM missiles

dark socket
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and if it is really unfair, the T92E1 and Sheridan are tech tree tanks, Wargaming could remove the feature if they want

sinful current
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What do you think would happen if WG made an event where every tank that can fire HEAT was a ATG

dark socket
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what do you mean HEAT is a straight shell, like it only flies in a straight line, or are you saying it's straight up a shell, not a ATGM

boreal mulch
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Sheridan is prem???

rigid thunder
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no lol

dark socket
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no, that's just for testing

kindred wren
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You can’t just rocket propel any shell

boreal mulch
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Yes.

kindred wren
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Not effectively

dark socket
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it's a missile

boreal mulch
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But it's unfair for other tanks.

sinful current
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@dark socket I mean like if it can fire HEAT it becomes an ATGM instead if a shell

dark socket
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no, the gun was made to fire both normal shells and ATGM's, same with the real life one

kindred wren
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HEAT is a penetrator type

boreal mulch
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ATGM is unfair because other tanks only use powerful cannons.

dark socket
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what exactly do you mean bingbing

regal zealot
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Polish HTs confirmed?

kindred wren
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That’s only a premium

boreal mulch
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Other tanks can shoot to the target aimed,but ATGM can threaten them because it already reach them before they can react. @dark socket

kindred wren
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Don’t get your hopes too high yet. But it’s an indicator

rigid thunder
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the ATGMs are pretty slow though, and have a max range of 250m

frigid compass
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ATGMs are like 50 m/s

regal zealot
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Premiums are usually introduced before a new line on PC

kindred wren
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30 m/s if BlitStars is correct

frigid compass
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ye 30 m/s

dark socket
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^^^

kindred wren
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Which I doubt is enough to keep a missile like that flying

frigid compass
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irl no

kindred wren
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And the missiles turn a lot for early ATGMs

dark socket
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it's simply game play reasons

kindred wren
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Well, if they implemented them in a realistic manner they would have barely been distinguishable from standard shells considering the short distances in Blitz

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The main deal about ATGMs was that you can get a lot of explosive mass and penetration without having a big cannon

dark socket
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but we're not exactly focusing on real life here, we're talking about a tank game that's more "arcade" than realism

regal zealot
dark socket
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50TP Proto. is gonna be a Tier IX

hearty cape
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Ye

glad ridge
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Does T49A comes too back?

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come*

dapper panther
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not confirmed, I can only hope

noble moss
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it’s not

solid gate
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So I just got the Matilda and holy crap it can bounce shells all-day lol

surreal spruce
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IX 50TP Tyszkiewicza on PC is one of the highest winrate tank globally

shrewd basalt
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What should I Research first on Standard B ?

tame jungle
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Gun

crystal hare
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@solid gate try bouncing t5

fleet silo
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is the Excelsior even worth buying?

crystal hare
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No

sweet tree
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...

fleet silo
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Why tho

sweet tree
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u better buy type 62

fleet silo
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but how about the excelsior tho

solid gate
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It bounced a t5 shell from but only once

fleet silo
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it looks too cute

chilly cargo
harsh turret
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a little late

chilly cargo
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?

harsh turret
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Dual gun tanks that might be added to PC version, they've already talked about this a while ago

chilly cargo
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Ah

hardy sparrow
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@chilly cargo he lying,it's a new premium tank being tested by war gaming

abstract heath
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@hardy sparrow I wish

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The closest thing we have to that is the helsing, which could be used to test the physics, u never know šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

bright folio
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Well, the WZ-111 5A is in blitzhangar now.

formal roost
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Idea for a Free Xmas Day Tank:

StuG III Ausf. B (German Tier III TD) - https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:G101_StuG_III - (stock everything, 7.5 cm L/24 derp, gun handling better than Großtraktor's)

I'm thinking basically a German SU-76i with a lot less penetration, but a lot more DPM and much better dispersion.
Ammo would be HE (38 mm pen, 140 alpha) and HEAT (87 mm pen, 105 alpha). No AP shells (like the T82).
Base rate of fire would be 6.7 (SU-76i is 4.47). DPM would be 938 with HE, 703.5 with HEAT (latter equal to T82).
Dispersion equal to SAu 40 with the stock gun. Armour slightly worse than SU-76i. Mobility slightly better.

This would make for a crap tank in the hands of a newbie or noob (probably using only HE), but a very effective tank in the hands of a veteran who knows how and when to use HEAT.

covert ledge
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is the atgm in the game yet or naw?

shadow pulsar
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It's in being tested

viral lodge
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That T3 sounds like a sealclubber

deep ivy
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Pls dont do that. Sure, looks like a fun idea, but when put into practice it would wreck the gameplay for any light tank noob...

solid gate
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Low Tiers need a taste of pre 5.5 and what the higher tiers can become.

Bring back Low Tiers.

BRING BACK THE LEICHTRAKTOR.

glass crypt
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tbh, all i want back is low tier td's, they weren't all that good but felt nice to use

gaunt meadow
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or bring back my loved T1 Cunningham

neat nimbus
royal charm
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How about M60 as free Xmas gift

obsidian maple
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There may add the fifty toilet paper tank or the 50tp

solid gate
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They'll add it, but it will be a premium, so expect terrible prices for the tank.

royal charm
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Lets be honest, they are gonna give a former low tier tech tree tank like they did with PZ III A

tulip sail
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Probably

royal charm
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Not even something with the status of LTP

covert dagger
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I really disagree with WG putting the T95E6 on sale expresualy for just $50! Now new players can just get a tier 10 tank and completely mess up tier 10 battles.

royal charm
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So they should have instead put it at 250$ so... new players can just get a tier 10 tank and completely mess up tier 10 battles?

covert dagger
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Its a tier 10 collector, it should be more than just $50. They sold the M60 for $100.

royal charm
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I mean thats not gonna remove the problem, just slightly lower it

covert dagger
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I know, but I prefer that more.

scenic axle
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what is up with the t92 having a 155

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that tank was meant to replace the bulldog, it had a 76mm gun

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why not make that one the tier 8 and move t49 up a tier?

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I wonder if we will ever get the m60a2 starship at tier 9 tho

regal zealot
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The T92 and the T92E2 are different tanks; the T92 Light is the premium light tank that you expect from the PC version, while the E2 will have a radically different turret to allocate for the 152mm missile launcher, providing a neat transition from the T49 to the Sheridan

scenic axle
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it never existed tho, im just saying we had other options as oppoesed to just coming up with a new one

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getting the stingray as a tier X could be cool too

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im not complaining, im looking forward to these things coming out but it strikes me as odd they made the choice to stick a sheridan turret on a t92, which was a competitor to the bulldog

regal zealot
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Problem is, the Stingray’s too modern for WoTB, it entered service in 1989

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Also, the Sheridan was already a tier X LT for WoT, so why do you want to put out people’s expectations for a top tier mobile derp cannon?

solid gate
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@scenic axle stingray is far too modern for the game

scenic axle
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its same period as the leopard 1

solid gate
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As for the T9 problem that literally can be solved by placing the xm551 at tier 9 and the finished model M551 at T10

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Leopard 1 is from the 60s stingray is from 70s-80s and has many other features leopard 1 doesn’t have

scenic axle
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oh yeah 20 years newer

regal zealot
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Leopard 1 is from the 60’s while the Stingray is from the late 80’s. The Stingray would also have heavy tank armor and super good mobility if it was in WoTB

solid gate
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Yeah 20 year gap and I’ll number the advancements from the mbt 70 just 10 years newer

scenic axle
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and yet mbt 70 is tier 9

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and a meh tank

solid gate
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Mbt 70 had APFSDS already combustible casings autoloading 150mm 1470 hp engine adjustable suspension 20mm AC driver in the turret and this was all 10-5 years after leopard 1

scenic axle
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and yet its tier 9 :I

solid gate
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It’s just a cash grab

scenic axle
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I mean, looking at tank encyclopedia stingray had 25mm of armor. it was a light tank, after all

regal zealot
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Thing is, it’s not exactly RHA, is it? It uses more complex composites for the armor

scenic axle
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no, it says it was only guaranteed protection from 15mm machine gun fire

regal zealot
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I see.

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Huh, it has aluminum armor, I prolly read the armor stats wrong or was looking at something else

royal charm
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Just realised LTP is my 3rd most played tank šŸ¤”

solid gate
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Although the armor doesn’t matter it’s cannon does @scenic axle

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It’s smoothbore and fires APFSDS

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T92E1, new Puncake tenk

scenic axle
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its a 105mm, they could always change the ammo

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they didnt have a problem making the 183 fire HE instead of HESH

solid gate
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That’s not how that works

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While 183mm HESH was sort of a thing you can’t give a gun a completely different set of ammuntion

scenic axle
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and they didnt mind giving the 5v4005 a stage 2 turret with an autoloader, while the autoloader was tested on a stage 1 turret.

solid gate
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They gave it a fake gun and system but it’s still compliant with blitz’s vehicle addition system

scenic axle
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leopard one also fired the APFSDS, along with APDS and HEAT

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not apcr. they could conceivably add APFSDS because the NATO L7 guns all fired it

solid gate
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APFSDS would be broken though

scenic axle
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then make it fire apcr, like all the other L7 guns

solid gate
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That’s what they did and you literally went full circle

scenic axle
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nah, you went full circle, not me

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Although the armor doesn’t matter it’s cannon does @Texas_BurnBane [TRUE1] (NA)
It’s smoothbore and fires APFSDS

solid gate
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Yeah and you said change it’s ammo to a type it didn’t use

scenic axle
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to make it consistent with all the other L7s in the game, which also didnt fire apcr. theres no need for it to be complicated

solid gate
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You didn’t seem to understand that it’s a smoothbore unlike the other guns

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APDS isn’t compatible with smoothbore for a obvious reason

scenic axle
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The low recoil force (LRF) version of the British Royal Ordnance L7 105 mm rifled gun was its main asset, sharing most of its ammunition with NATO stocks.

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thats quoted straight from tank encyclopedia

solid gate
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They didn’t specify the ammo it seems besides old nato stocks

scenic axle
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yeah they did they didnt

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they said it shared with the NATO stock, which would have been HEAT, APDS, APFSDS, HESH, and HE

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as well as anti-personal and smoke

ocean valve
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Also the mbt70 known as the kpfw 70 on blitz in rl can fire a missile

scenic axle
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I hope it gets that in game

ocean valve
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Would be cool, yes

neat nimbus
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well we couldnt get swedish TDs

ocean valve
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Oh boyyyyy I want Swedish td’s

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Such low profile and they can raise and lower!

neat nimbus
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wheeled tanks = scouting at your very own risk

ocean valve
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Is Chinese td line any good

scenic axle
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its ok fom what ive seen, at least the lower tiers look pretty good

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tier 10 is not that different from a 268, except its flat and therefore not as troll

ocean valve
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So what vehicles are being taken out, I heard Alecto and nothing else

solid gate
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Lol, thought of a Legendary camo for the T92E1.
Pancake camo
Butter slice attachment
Name: T92E1 Pancake

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When XM-1 šŸ˜

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Xm1 is too advanced but it can be worked and balanced

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The kpz 70 is technically a variant and both mbt 70 and kpz 70 could fire missiles how ever the kpz 70 just had a more powerful engine

scenic axle
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I mean all the other advanced systems have been dumbed down to fit thus far. and our kpf is not nearly as strong of an engine as it should have had. but again, it could always be made into a tier 10

solid gate
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Isn’t the German way to say mbt 70 kpz 70

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Yes but the kpz 70 has slight differences over the original model meaning it’s a variant

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Oh

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Thx

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@scenic axle although depends on what xm1 model we talking about

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Does anybody know where the driver of the kpf or kpz 70 is located

scenic axle
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oh yeah the xm-1 will never come to the game. not with the composite armor, anyway

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the driver is located dead center of the turret, in is own unique cupola

solid gate
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@solid gate he sits in the turret

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Do that would mean that the driver gets sick a lot

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@scenic axle well the original xm1s had some very thin armor for mbt standards

scenic axle
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yeah, that was the main drawback of the tank. even though the cupola rotated to make sure he always faced forward, it was slightly off center so yeah he got sick

solid gate
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Iirc they were still developing APFSDS during the xm1 and it was in use by the M1 model

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It was also said that the drivers seat wasn’t stabilized too

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Leopard 1 is pretty interesting

glass otter
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Give the Patton a turret buff

scenic axle
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the xm1 had rolled steel chasse and a composite armor turret.

solid gate
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I heard about the buff to the leopard 1. It’s apparently getting a faster reload, either 5.8 or 5.9. For me the reload is 5.9

scenic axle
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yeah the leo could use the buff

solid gate
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And also the T-62A was getting a gun depression buff

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Yeah the turret could be stupid dummy thicc and the hull very weak

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5 to 6

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Tbh it would just be a better Patton

scenic axle
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and that will be ridiculous, no justification for the magnitude of the buff. 7 degrees maybe, but 8? especially considering its nearly the most accurate tank in the game

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its getting buffed to 8 degrees, according to blitzhangar

solid gate
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Also a very inaccurate number on a tank that wasn’t even fully tested

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Oh.

scenic axle
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yeah, first xm-1 had the standard L7 105mm

solid gate
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What do you guys think of the E100 or Maus maybe even the Jg 100. I’m thinking of grinding them because my only tier ten so far is the leopard 1

scenic axle
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so it would be a patton with worse mobility and better armor

solid gate
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It used the M68 but worse mobility? No

scenic axle
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but for the sake of balance

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it would be a heavy, after all

solid gate
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If anything make the rear paper and highly flammable and susceptible to engine damage

scenic axle
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like all the other americans. :I

solid gate
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Most of the Americans don’t catch fire tbh

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From HE spam in Mk6 most I’ve lit on fire was Russians and some Germans and brits

scenic axle
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unless you HE them. especially the top half of the engine decks on the e3 and e4

solid gate
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The sides of the xm1 are also huge to hit

scenic axle
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mmmm no

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would love to see starship and stingray, though I would really love to see more in pan-European tech tree.
like the strv 103b

solid gate
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Strv isn’t really a possibility since other suspensions don’t even work

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The recoil of the gun would also make it jump too much

scenic axle
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they are testing the strv for blitz though, as far as im aware

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and, dude it uses the L7 gun

solid gate
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@scenic axle that’s not what I meant what I meant was in blitz firing the gun causes all tanks to rock uncontrollably

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A problem that’s handled in pc with the gun naturally recoiling into the turret

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Earlier questions on the Strv they said here they won’t be adding them

scenic axle
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ah

solid gate
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And the suspension for the Strv can’t even work unless actual suspension mechanics are implemented for all vehicles

scenic axle
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nah

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it can work by having the chasse of the tank be disconnected from the suspension. it doesnt need to have proper mechanics to work

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similar to oscillating turrets, just with the chasse and the suspension as opposed to the halves of a turret

devout tapir
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Well looks like Polish heavies won't come

woven stone
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Yes I know it looks like a heavy tank but it's actually a TD

solid gate
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looks like a turreted 268

bright folio
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It looks like a T-10.

clever ferry
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is the 70 $ collector tank worth it?

gentle wasp
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nah

oblique leaf
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So, 50 TP prototyp gonna be EU line's first premium?

woven stone
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@solid gate Yep that's exactly what it is

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It's called the Object 268 Version 5

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@bright folio And in WOT it is a tier 10

bright folio
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Huh. Looks interesting.

devout tapir
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Would love to see it :0

boreal mulch
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If any new tank like 50TP proto come out,WG is about money.

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F2P players cannot get 50TP proto because it's a prem. Huh.

oblique leaf
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@boreal mulch uh, what's your point again? Are you crying for WG not being a charity org?

devout tapir
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:0

rigid thunder
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@boreal mulch WG's a company, of course they need money. It's like introducing DLC, except this DLC only locks a single vehicle. Plus, the 50TP Proto was also a premium on WoT PC, so it's not as if they're converting a tech tree tank from WoT PC to a premium in WoTB

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Not to mention, wargaming's also introducing ATGM tanks in the TECH TREE and not as premium tanks, be grateful enough for that

devout tapir
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Ngl WG released more prems this year then tech tree tanks

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ but o well idc

rigid thunder
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tech tree tanks require an entire line, while premiums can just be placed just about anywhere. Plus premium tanks make money, though what they did with the badger was pretty bad

devout tapir
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Yeah that's the problem, for Blitz WG has a problem with a T9 tank branching out to two T10s

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Take the Vk.90.01P, it can easily branch off the T9 VK.45 but nah

woven stone
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Yeah they need to make money

devout tapir
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They have like over 20 other games

woven stone
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Cause the workers there have families too

devout tapir
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Still, they'er over doing it a bit. On July 4th this year WG tried to sell the M60 for $100

gentle wasp
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@woven stone oh come on stop that old tired line Wargaming is a successful company. Employees there feed their families a lot better than the average person.

solid gate
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Wonder if Czech medium line will eventually come to Blitz. Though I hear they are bad in WoT PC. Some other line in WoT PC is supposedly weak too.

solid gate
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@gentle wasp so your point is that they should stop feeding their families that well and give you free prem tanks?

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well...

gentle wasp
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@solid gate My point is to stop acting like their families will starve unless they sell a new premium every month

rigid thunder
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the czech MT line is great on WoT PC, though the tier 8 TVP VTU is pretty bad, the Skoda T50 and TVP T50/51 are both amazing tanks

abstract heath
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@woven stone Key word is Chinese server, same game, but different people who run the game and chances it'll be a Chinese PC thing only just like the mk.6

tepid smelt
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how many xp is the t92e1 gonna cost

abstract heath
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Take the t49s research xp and double it

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@tepid smelt same thing with credits

tepid smelt
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i have 200 elite xp more than enough

gentle wasp
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@tepid smelt judging by other t9s I would say 160-175k range. and @abstract heath that is not how it works lol

tepid smelt
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200k

solid gate
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There is a premium T92 light tank in PC and maybe console too right?

tepid smelt
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next year i think

abstract heath
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@gentle wasp it's close enough, most of the time is just double the xp of the last tier plus the module's needed to be able to unlock it

tepid smelt
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let me grind more free xp i dont want a stock t9

solid gate
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Stock tanks suck. They bring you and subsequently your team down.

gentle wasp
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@abstract heath lol it is easier just to look at the other t9s

tepid smelt
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yeah

abstract heath
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Also they said that the update may be beginning of next year so probably not beginning of January but not beyond February

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Look at Instagram, they usually tell people hints

solid gate
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So are we not getting Blitz Fair this year? Then again December has barely begun.

gentle wasp
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no we are getting blitz fair. patience grasshopper.

solid gate
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Well just wondering when this month it will appear and what tanks they’ll have out this time.

abstract heath
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Doesn't it usually start like 3 or 5 days before Christmas

gentle wasp
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well christmas is later in the month so probably later

solid gate
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I don’t know when it starts. Soon I would think though.

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But what tanks do you guys think they’ll have in it?

gentle wasp
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high priced tanks like Drac, Helsing, 121B, IS-3D, were all in it last year so you can expect the same

acoustic folio
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Is t49 still gonna upgrade to t54e1?

gentle wasp
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yes

tepid smelt
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i got the t54e1 from t69

solid gate
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T69 probably prepares you for T54E1 better.

tepid smelt
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yep and t57 heavy

spark basin
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probably not

neat nimbus
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I just hope wargaming doesn't add a legendary camouflage that makes such tank looks like a hot wheels rare edition car

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I'm more into realistic camouflages

tame jungle
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So is the sheri coming in 6.6? Or will I be blue balled into waitin a lil longer

hushed shadow
tame jungle
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Very sad : (

dapper salmon
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I just got the Obj 263. And I was wondering if someone had a few tips on how to play it?

dapper panther
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TDium

halcyon token
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@dapper salmon rush

dapper salmon
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@halcyon token thanks. I guess hide the bottom plate as much as possible (as all other tanks). I really like the gun on it

halcyon token
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I mean If you rush its hard af to hit you bottom plate
Rather first part of battle maybe active camping but second part of battle just rush asap

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@dapper salmon

dapper salmon
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@halcyon token And thanks again

alpine notch
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50TP will be a Tier IX prem? How come? (Being uptiered for some reason, unlike on PC, it was a Tier VIII)

Afaik, some tanks from PC to Blitz:

  • K-91 is a Tier IX, downtiered from X (and also its a prem, instead of non-prem)
  • VK 90.01 (K) is a Tier X, uptiered from VIII (basically its a VK 75.01 (K) as in PC)

Whats the reason of these i wonder...

glass relic
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Well LTTB is a tier 7 here and it's a Tier 8 on PC

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And the T-54 ltwt got downtiered to here.

alpine notch
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T49 was a Tier IX though

glass relic
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Say that to T49A when it was on event :P

alpine notch
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Because they didnt port T71 CMCD in-game, they downtiered it to 8

glass relic
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Well i guess because of the gun on 50TP? Maybe or armor profile..

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Idk how much MM does 50TP uses.

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Or maybe it's because the tank is more unique than other Tier 8 prems... So they just put it on Tier 9.

alpine notch
glass relic
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Heh..

alpine notch
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I guess thats obvious now, its a Tier 9 gun as in PC..

glass relic
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Well just hope it won't gonna be expensive.. probably it will have the prices of almost the same as Kpz or even higher since... Its their first time introducing the tank.

alpine notch
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It has 440 alpha, pens about 215 mm

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RoF in 4.2

glass relic
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I guess it will either be having 420 alpha or still at 440 maybe 400...? But.. that'll make things need to have more balancing.

alpine notch
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I think it will stays that way.. maybe in future they'll buff it

narrow shadow
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I imagine it'll be different to the PC tank, just like K91 is to the PC version

glass relic
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Yep... They'll make it way unique and different from others.

alpine notch
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Overall hull armor are weak it says.. except upper glacis

glass relic
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It will be a good hulldown type mostly

alpine notch
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Its somehow better than IS series tbh, just because of having good depression

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Gun characteristics should be likely close to Soviet ones, but better accuracy than them

glass relic
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In general it will have a unique stats and characteristics.

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Like other's premium Tier 9 heavy

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Well that's basically what comes in my mind after looking at Kpz and K91

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Welp I'm not interested on polski tonks that much, I just want Skoda's...

alpine notch
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Want the thing in tech tree though, instead prems..

Saving my Gold for IS-5 for future

glass relic
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Mhmm.. you'll get IS-5 if you're patient enough.. from watching ads

alpine notch
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I got random ones from crates, last time it was 100 gold

glass relic
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Heh.. lucky, my luck has ran out after i got T23 and 122 44 from huge container

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Well.. even though i accidentally wasted my 600 gold after opening my free huge container and getting T23, well then my luck has helped me and making the 600 gold not coming to a huge waste

solid gate
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Just got into Blitz wot, currently going for the French branch for the B-C 25 t, is it an alright scout flanker? Worth the training? Or should I go another route

tacit lava
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So will the Sheridan branch from the t49?

hollow vale
#

can anyone help me...? is better T34 or LOWE...?

rigid thunder
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They're both good tanks but the lowe makes more credits

tacit lava
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@hollow vale tbh I prefer the t34 just cuz I'm really good with it

hushed shadow
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@tacit lava Yeah there’s the T49 and then the Tier IX tank and then the Sheridan

solid gate
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T71 CMCD can be American tier VII premium light tank though.

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@glass relic Only tanks I haven’t got that I can get from bonus containers are SU-100Y and T26E4.

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Btw I looked at K-91 in WoT PC on the website. It looks a bit different visually than what we have in Blitz. Like some of the shapes and all in the model are different.

sweet tree
solid gate
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What is that?

sweet tree
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maus mixed with a grille 15 mixed with a vk 100p thing

rigid thunder
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On WoT PC the K-91 is a rear-turreted medium tank with a TD's gun for all intensive purposes, with pretty bad armour

solid gate
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But here it’s an autoloader heavy tank and a tier lower than on PC. So big difference.

rigid thunder
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also it has a Russian railgun which fires APCR as standard at 1700 m/s

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276mm of pen and 0.32 dispersion, the gun's all it's got

tame jungle
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@solid gate the BC is an excellent flanker

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I had playing the whole line, especially before 5.5

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The only tank I disliked on that line was the elc bis

solid gate
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Now what’s this reason about 50TP being uptiered from tier 8 to tier 9 when going from PC to Blitz? Also VK 90.01 (K) is based off a so called VK 75.01 (K) from PC?

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Funny. RU 251 is tier 9 in PC. Though I keep forgetting that until I look again.

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Hmm, I guess I should try it out!

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Apparently PC WoT doesn’t have it but if you read about the VK 72 it mentions a VK 70.01.

solid gate
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@rigid thunder it’s for all intents and purposes šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ very intensive purposes indeed

wise moth
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@solid gate It used to be tier 8, but they uptiered it because they added the RHM PZW

solid gate
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we should remember that these are 2 completely different games šŸ˜…

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@wise moth Huh?

lost parrot
#

I think we need Sherman jumbo back

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And m3lee

neat nimbus
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M3 lee

faint marsh
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yes

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bet m3 lee is gonna come back as a premium

tepid briar
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I got to walk around a Patton today

still jacinth
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how about to slighty buff charioteer? before the nerf was too op i know but now nobody plays it, it died too much... sad, but how about slighty buff it but not only in gun that is good (but slighty, i prefer only buffing reload time in gun by about 0,5s), and buff speed on it, to make him more like hellcat but on t8? OR give him only better hull and turret turning?

solid gate
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I hope the 50 TP doesn’t come in crates

solid gate
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@faint marsh i have it, it's a collector tank, and it's the only Tier 4 aside of the D.W.2 having 160 alpha still, with a 75 mm gun

faint marsh
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I thought so

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the bt 7 art got to keep its high alpha tho

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which is weird

solid gate
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BT7 Art has 120 alpha and lost quite a bit of effectiveness having reduced also HE alpha to 200

faint marsh
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whaat?

solid gate
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Check it on Blitz hangar

faint marsh
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oh well thats a real shame but who uses ap in that tank anyway

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effectively it has 200 damage per shot

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and 200 damage he is normal for 75mm

solid gate
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Before the nerf it was a pleasure believe me, I don't remember the previous HE alpha

faint marsh
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I didn't notice any nerfing or apparently damage decrease with he

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the A20 got nerfed so hard tho

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and whats even good about the A32 when it doesn't even do the full 160 damage anymore

solid gate
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Ah the old days

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I remember having the AT-2, the only 76 mm at Tier 2 and having 160 alpha

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Such oneshots and devastating blows

faint marsh
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oh that was forever ago

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T82 with 105mm at tier 3 was better tho

solid gate
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Now only Ke NI Otsu can do the lion's part

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I hate it

faint marsh
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the amount of kenny tanks on the battlefield is only going to decrease over time tho

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i wonder if the reason they removed the valentine mark ix was because it basically made the premium valentine useless

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oh well neither are sold anymore since all premiums under tier 5 were disappeared

royal charm
#

Which gun on M41 Bulldog and why?

solid gate
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It depends on your play style. I used autoloader but with less pen, others prefer the latest gun, with single shot but more pen

modern flint
#

What does gold, silver, and blue emblem mean on the tank. I know gold tanks get more credits and exp but the the heck is the blue do?

onyx notch
#

Which is best gun for KV-3 with accuracy being priority?

solid dust
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@modern flint gold can be 2 things depending on its brightness bright gold is a enriched tank and dark gold is a premium tank. Blue is a collectors tank, and silver is tech tree but once it has everything researched for it it gains wings around the vehicle for completion status

faint marsh
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gold offers increased xp and credit income, Idk if collectors does that

solid dust
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Collectors does but it’s not the status it has it’s mainly the tank itself and ammo cost

faint marsh
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even collectors tanks that used to be tech tree?

solid dust
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I don’t know about that for the old tech tree they removed but I believe they do

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I have almost every tank in the game and I’m only missing 4 premium tanks

modern flint
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So that’s all it is BLUE are just ā€œCollectorsā€ no benefits??????

solid dust
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They have the same benefits or a little less than premiums

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Like I said every tank is different

onyx notch
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tech tree and collector tanks can be buffed and nerfed while premium tanks are normally safe from any changes in performance

solid dust
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That is correct but he wasn’t asking that

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He was referring to if they have the same credit and XP co efficiency for premium tanks and collectors

modern flint
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@onyx notch Gold premium tanks don’t get buffed or nerfed ??

solid dust
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Depends if it effects match making

tulip sail
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any tank can get nerfed or buffed they just usally dont touch premiums for fear of backlash

solid dust
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That I can agree on

quick thicket
#

Bring back the e25 to the store

tulip sail
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I wouldn't be surprised if they did in the winter fair

faint marsh
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give us a date for the faaaaair wg

solid dust
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What channel can I post a suggestion for a add on to the game?

tulip sail
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Its probably the same date its been every year

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Depends on the suggestion

royal charm
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Tbh I wouldnt call premium tanks same from nerfs since they already turned a few dozen premiums into collectors

solid dust
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I was going to suggest for them to add a in game timer that changes to your time zone

tulip sail
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There far from safe it's just generally speaking they aren't touched and there already is a timer in game?(or am I mis understanding)

royal charm
#

Anyway the Bulldog is so fun. I love pissing off non turreted TDs in it

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And any tank with slow turret traverse really

tulip sail
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Lol that's the tank that actually got me into light tanks

narrow shadow
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I checked and WTF, it has eff 50 hp per ton, that is NUTS

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To compare, CDC has 35

tulip sail
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And fun as all get out

royal charm
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Anyway TOG II is still best tank in entire game

narrow shadow
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Dracula has 39, it's slow compared to bulldog, unbelievable I never knew this

tulip sail
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It's good but I wouldn't say best

royal charm
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Best tank, I know

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It has best playstyle

narrow shadow
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It's so best that it's actually spelled bestest, get your grammar straight

royal charm
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Playstylest* is correct form
Please take English lessons

narrow shadow
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No u

royal charm
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No w

narrow shadow
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Wait, that's illegal

royal charm
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You know what else is illegal?

tulip sail
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No, I dont think I will ask

royal charm
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Bringing tier 1 in tier 10 battle as platoon is

solid gate
#

I got too aggressive against isolated Bulldog with T25 AT and paid the price. That thing is great against non-turreted TDs.

royal charm
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T25...?

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Was it a greenish map. Or maybe that big city map

solid gate
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It was Lost Temple.

royal charm
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Not me then

solid gate
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He capped B then ran off toward C and I have chase. But messed up and got obliterated by him.

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Of course I don’t have 100% crew in my T25 AT. So that played a part in it.

royal charm
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Dont give chase to that speed demon 😫

solid gate
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Well he was alone. Thought I could get him but did it wrong.

royal charm
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Were you alone?

solid gate
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Also T25 AT seems to have decent frontal armor unless they shoot prammo or can hit the little hatch/cupola on top.

royal charm
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That frontal armor wont matter if he can move behind u faster than you can rotate

solid gate
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Can’t remember. Wasn’t for long if I was. Somebody else on my team came along and killed him.

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He wasn’t staying behind but he was too the side at least. I don’t know. I overcommitted my advance.

royal charm
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Well as long as he can reliably stay out of your shooting reach

solid gate
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He did long enough to hurt me but I got 1 more shot into him before dying I think. Still my point is the Bulldog is a superb tank against turretless TDs. Especially if they do stupid stuff like I did.

royal charm
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Yea

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How about when they start hugging you

solid gate
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Well if you’re heavy enough you can rear bump them and they’ll lose some hit points. But T25 isn’t heavy enough.

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In fact I think only heavy tanks have the weight to hurt a Bulldog with a bump.

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Honestly my problem is I’ve forgotten how to play T25 AT and certainly don’t know how to handle it with the new frontal armor. (It’s not that new but I played the thing well before that buff.) Also not having 100% crew hurts too.

royal charm
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Are you sure he just wasnt a better player?

graceful marten
#

Can WG remove the dust on rare camo?

calm inlet
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that’s just how it is for some tanks

solid gate
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Perhaps but I have forgotten how to play the tank top and didn’t and still don’t have 100% crew in it. That definitely played a part.

calm inlet
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and btw, it’ll show that way no matter what camo you put on the tank

solid gate
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Legendary camos don’t seem to have that problem on the tanks they are made for.

calm inlet
#

camos look the clearest on the T-54 ltwt and the VK 72 K, from personal experience

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legendary camos are a different model of the tank, believe it or not

solid gate
#

Vs rare and standard camos being a skin over a skin?

calm inlet
#

rare and common ones are just like, skins you can add on top of any tank

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yeah, pretty much

solid gate
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Well some rare camos are worse than others about ā€œclippingā€ issues.

calm inlet
#

i believe its actually possible to swap the file for certain camos so like, if you use a certain common camo, it’ll show as a certain rare one

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but that’s very hard to do, and personally, i wouldn’t know where to even start with that

solid gate
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I’d prefer camo mods. Get your own unique camos in the game without having to enter Wargaming’s contest and hope it wins and is added as a rare camo.

calm inlet
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well, that’s always an option as well. just replace the files and use a different one

solid gate
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Though I don’t know how you’d get the mods on iPhone if at all possible.

gentle wasp
#

Lorraine has an awesome camo look. Really bright and clear

glass crypt
#

pretty sure collector tanks have clear camo's aswell, or just the t-28 ig šŸ¤

solid gate
#

Isn’t there a Russian multiturreted heavy as well? T-35 or something like that?

glass crypt
#

yeh but not here as far as im aware, also there's the smk, basically a kv-1-1

tame jungle
#

@ somebody in WG, back in 5.5 I think? The T34-85 and Cromwell had howitzers that were an absolute blast to play, I loved using them. Is there any chance they’ll ever come back? Maybe just add in a premium tank with it? I loved watching the Shell soar slowly across the map, whether it hit or miss it was fun to play. I’d love to see them return

tulip sail
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Unfortunately I doubt the derps will make a return

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But I'd love to se my m4a1 (105) again

tame jungle
#

I mean it’s worth askin. They were fun to play and it would spice up tier 6 with out breaking it

leaden talon
#

Introducing the tiger 3

tame jungle
#

That wouldn’t go here

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That goes in screenshots

leaden talon
#

It's a vehicle 2 m8

tame jungle
#

No such thing as tiger 3 tho šŸ˜‰

leaden talon
#

Besides it a good premium idea

bright folio
#

Hello VK 90? Is that you?

leaden talon
#

No...that's the tigers rear facing brother

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The Vk 102.91 g

tulip sail
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@tame jungle true they were a ton of fun even if they weren't ment to fight tanks

tame jungle
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Maybe we can get WG to re add them if we petition for it

tulip sail
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(Looks at how smasher is doing) I'm not so sure but I dont think trying could hurt

alpine notch
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@tame jungle So VK 45.03 is a joke to you?

tame jungle
#

Yes, it is absolutely a joke to me

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Never once have I seen that tank and said ā€œoh no I’m in troubleā€

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Even when it’s at full hp and I’m not

alpine notch
#

I once dominated VK 45.03 with Tiger I, seems legit fighting it hulldown/side2sides against it

tulip sail
#

At least it's not as bad as it used to be

solid gate
#

Is warcrime panther good?

glass relic
#

Ersatz Panther is... Just basically like Comet or T23, but it got some good accuracy after WG gives it some love.

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But i rather SU-122-44 for grinding credits at tier 7

rigid thunder
#

the panther M10 is pretty meh, a comet or T23E3 would perform better in almost every situation but ramming

quartz ruin
#

@tulip sail isn't a M4A1 with 105 mm gun an M4 Rev tier 8? With the French gun? Or were you thinking about a WW2 model?

rigid thunder
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He means the M4A1 at tier 5 with the 105mm Howitzer that was removed in update 5.5

quartz ruin
#

Oh, ok.

vast pewter
#

they need to put the 105mm gun module back for the sherman, that was beast, it was like a faster, tier 5 kv-2

hoary flame
#

How good is the T95e6 guy's

tulip sail
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@quartz ruin the rev is an m51 while the rev does have a 105mm it's not apart of the designation as the us designates the m4 which follows model modification gun caliber then if it had wet ammo stowage it would follow after the gun caliber () for example
M4a1 (105) or M4A3E8 (76)w HVSS
(also of it's got hvss its put behind the gun and stowage type)

tough viper
#

Salut les gas

glass relic
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Lol no, that would be an overkill

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Short stubby 105mm howitzer

merry current
#

It’s literally an arty on pc, blitz ain’t gonna have a td like that

tulip sail
#

Like the t82 and t18?

merry current
#

They were tds b4 they became arty

tulip sail
#

They were "arty" when designed wg has put several tank destroyers into blitz that were arty historically they dont seem to care that much and honestly I wouldn't put it to far past them to add this as a premium t9 or t10

solid gate
#

They make gaijin look decent

lime thistle
#

can we have the 155mm M109 in WoT Blitz as a Tank Destroyer

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Like the ones from Vietnam

stone minnow
#

IIRC the 50TP Prototyp was never in the tech tree, so why are people asking if it will be in the tech tree when they should really be asking "Why is it at Tier IX and not Tier VIII?"

tulip sail
#

Its probably getting buffed stats to make it viable at t9

solid gate
#

Does anybody in this server have Keni?

merry current
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@lime thistle it’s a ww2 game even tho some tanks were made in the Cold War, if it’s past whatever it’s equivalent on wot pc it won’t make it (for m109 it’s t92), I’m pretty sure the most recent tank is stb1, during the early 1960s

warm pivot
#

Very excited for T92E1

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I will waste my wallet for this glorious baby of the free country

bright folio
#

Just got the Ferdinand. Any tips? (I got the jadgtiger through the jpanther 2 already)

neon comet
#

Don’t rely on the armor?

frigid compass
#

@lime thistle thats an arty piece

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@merry current the most recently built tank is the Chieftain MK6

rigid thunder
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which is something like 1975
Ah

tulip sail
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the chieftain mk 6 was adopted in 1979

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lol right at the same time

hollow rain
#

When gonna update šŸ¤”

minor mica
#

Does the Sheridan use missile shells and regular shells ?

lone vortex
#

Yes

alpine notch
#

@stone minnow Already asked them here, just scroll above, you'll find me asking about it-

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So, the 50TP Prototyp is literally just a 50TP Tyskiewicza, but in stock config (gun), the real one was having 130mm top gun afaik..

stone minnow
#

Huh

subtle mason
calm inlet
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@subtle mason FCM sucks

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get the T34

subtle mason
#

Is T34 a good farmer without premium? I doubt I'm going to continue the subscription @calm inlet

narrow shadow
#

It's ok. Lowe is generally better, but if you like slow, very heavily positional tanks with good turret and gun then you will like T34

calm inlet
#

T34 is pretty good at farming credits

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Its credit coefficient is 170%, which a bit lower than some other Tier 8 premiums, but its still gonna fetch a good deal of credits, even without premium time

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@subtle mason get this bad boy hulldown and you’re golden. do not try and play in the towns, your frontal hull plate will get penned all day long

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instead, go into the hills and use your gun depression and strong turret to hide your hull and keep the gun firing

subtle mason
#

I'm asking about the credits because I have a borsig and it's such a money sucker

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It's clear that in wot BLITZ economics is very different from the big brother, and even in some good match the borsig, for instance, yieds about 5-10k credits as a revenue, with premium. So I do wonder, if T34 will be that money hungry to maintain

calm inlet
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Borsig is pretty bad for credits because its very easy to die in (repair costs), shells are expensive, and its credit coefficient is really low

alpine notch
#

Any ideas which WT Pz. IV gun should i unlock first? 12cm or 15cm?

rigid thunder
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15

humble roost
#

Any good low tier (V-II) tanks? Not including leopard

alpine notch
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BDR G1 B for credit maker and great armor

glass relic
#

Stug III, T1 heavy, and ELC. That's my list...

eager pine
#

Stug...enrich it

glass relic
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I'd rather enrich my ELC

humble roost
#

Cheers

solid gate
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Just got ELC

tribal moss
#

do you guys think IS 7 needs a buff?

stable pasture
#

Pz. IV G or Leopard? I am new player.

bright folio
#

What do you prefer? Armor or speed?

prisma aurora
#

I prefer a hybrid of both armor and speed
Or high alpha damage and armor

bright folio
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@stable pasture I can't tell which tank would be better for you without knowing anything about you. The tanks have different playstyles, lead to different tank lines, and aren't particularly comparable.

narrow shadow
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Obviously PZ IV G , cuz the lines after it are more interesting

bright folio
#

While I agree with you, that's still subjective and not particularly helpful.

narrow shadow
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It's not really subjective, he is a new player and new players don't do well in leopard line

bright folio
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That's true. However, saying to pick it because the lines after it are more interesting is subjective.

solid gate
#

Going all in the AMX line, going to have to spice up my movement ability

glass relic
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Welp you'll surely enjoys it when engines are all maxed out

narrow shadow
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Well, there are like 3 or 4 lines behind PZ IV and only one behind Leopard. So still, he is far more likely to find interesting the lines behind PZ 4 than the leo line

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I love arguing about nothingšŸ˜‚

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Also oops, I never realized Panther line is accesible from leopard. That must be the 5.5 thing

bright folio
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I too, enjoy arguing about nothing. Also, I just noticed that the Panther line is only accessible through the leopard, and I don't like it.

stable pasture
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Armor but I want high penetration. Medium tanks are my favorite because they aren't slow, they don't have bad armor and they have moveable turret. @bright folio

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I love Pz. tanks because most of bullets/projectiles are bouncing

glass relic
#

Well then you might like E50s...

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It has an universal of stats, on maneuverability, armor, and gun.

stable pasture
#

What tier and nation?

bright folio
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German tier 9 and 10.

glass relic
#

^

bright folio
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Leopard -> VK 30.01 D -> Panther -> Panther II -> E 50 -> E 50 M

stable pasture
#

I found it

glass relic
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Kinda hard to grind it to the top, but it's worth it when you got the E50M

stable pasture
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But playing with Light tank (Leopard) doesn't feel comfortable for me. I don't like not having armor and being super fast.

bright folio
#

It's only about 30k xp. You'll be fine.

glass relic
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Well you won't gonna have to deal with it once you already research the VK30D... And so on.

stable pasture
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So, I should go with Leopard?

glass relic
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Just go with the Leopard, low.tiers won't gonna be stress full anyway

stable pasture
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Okay

glass relic
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Just make sure you researching the line that goes to the E50M

stable pasture
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VK 30.01 D line

glass relic
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Yep

stable pasture
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Thanks

bright folio
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The VK 30.01 D is where the line splits(again). Remember to get the Panther.

stable pasture
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Okay, I'll write it down.

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btw what about equipments for tanks? Should I buy them? Do they worth?

glass relic
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In tier 6/7 it is kinda worth it

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But higher tiers, it Should be a normal thing getting almost all of the equipment.

stable pasture
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I guess they make difference in higher tiers but they don't worth buying in lower tiers

glass relic
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I'd say buy it, since you might feel pressured when playing the VK30D, it doesn't have a lot of armor but if you can angle it sometimes it bounces shots..

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They make differences in most of the tiers, since they gives out a small amount of buffs that can be really useful, like aiming time, dispersion, shells penetration and velocity, reloads, crews reliability, engines, traverse and consumables lasting duration or Cooldown, and tracks repairs/ repair speeds.

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And it's cost credits which means it won't be that hard to get.

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While it won't gonna eat up credits every battle like provisions did.

stable pasture
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I find it very difficult to penetrate through Heavy tanks' armors. Like KV1's, Churchill's, T1 Heavy's, sometimes even lower tiers like Matilda and B1. I am always trying to escape them or find way to their back

glass relic
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Well the T1 is basically an absolute dominance, so yeah just get into their sides and you'll be okay.

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Or get precise shots on some weakspots or use Prammo... But don't spam it, just use it to irritate them or finish them off.

stable pasture
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I don't think it's worth buying primium bullets because It's too much to give 2000 for a bullet because at the end of the game I will always be in the minus if I shoot more than two bullets.

glass relic
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Well it wouldn't be too much if you, used it up correctly, i usually use it in a desperate situation where it's an action where it would've lead to something more serious. Basically a win or lose situation.

calm inlet
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its definitely worth using premium ammo. if that wins you a battle, you’re gonna make a much bigger profit just by winning the match then what you lost shooting premium

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besides, premium ammo is a tool, and I’m gonna use whatever i need to win and maximize my damage

glass relic
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It's like when you're crippled, and you either have to deal with it by crawling or, buying a wheelchair.

Gosh that sentences sounded really bad...

stable pasture
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Thanks a lot for tips

glass relic
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Just bring 10 shells of Prammo, and use it wisely.

calm inlet
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and yeah, i shoot mainly standard shells anyways because they do more damage. i only switch to premium when it’s unlikely my accuracy will hit a weak spot, or its just impossible to pen with standard

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but im generally willing to even take a risky shot or two with standard because id rather not spam premium

glass relic
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Well yep... Better use prammo in some situations, and don't spam it...

glossy marsh
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man, i friggin loved the leopard

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thought about enriching the little guy but it's expensive

glass relic
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Well 2,3k gold isn't expensive, if you really want to save up by watching ads.

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But you can always sticking to savings for better premiums tanks with it

glossy marsh
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yeah, that's what im doing rn

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I still come back to leo frequently, nothing quite like dumping a full mag into KV's ass.

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brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

glass relic
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And i like it whenever I'm hugging a leopard with my ELC

glossy marsh
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literally never happened to me, weird.

glass relic
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Since it's been quite rare seeing players used ELC and play it like that

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Its like really fun thing to do, especially side hugging HTs

glossy marsh
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i men yeah, also ramming other lights with leo is also fun, since you are heavier than most.

glass relic
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Yep.. just don't even try to ram an AT-2

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Or Pz IV/V

glossy marsh
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those are the real heavyweights. t-14 too

glass relic
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Well basically just avoid heavy tonks

glossy marsh
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i had best time with tier V and VIII. IX feels like no fun allowed zone

glass relic
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Tier 9... Is a fun tier with standard B for me.

solid gate
glossy marsh
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cute

glass relic
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Heing, Medium sides.

And oh my god wth with that grin

glossy marsh
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at first i hated standard B with my guts

solid gate
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I wanna have that camo in Blitz ngl

glossy marsh
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then i just free exped the gun

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it it was like a whole new world opening before me

glass relic
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Same here when, i stocked the grind it feels like a pain but it was all worth it once i got 105rh :P

glossy marsh
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its amazing

glass relic
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116mm of HE pen with cs

glossy marsh
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sold it cuz didnt feel like grinding creds for progetto but i will return to it

glass relic
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I kinda like it when I'm able to HE'd up an E5 or 113

glossy marsh
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...someday, now im grinding creds for another two tier IXs :c

glass relic
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Well... Youll eventually got the creds, unlike me... By just selling tanks to buy another tanks, which means that I'm basically losing more credits than i should've been.

glossy marsh
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superpershing = bling
the bounces on that thing are insane too

glass relic
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Well i tend to use HEAT to pen it's turret roof, or trying to shoot it's cheeks. And i tend to avoid APCRing the cupola and roof area..

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Since they tend to Ricochet

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But taking a risk shooting it with normal shells, is worth it imo.

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Just don't trying to shoot HEAT on it's hull of course :P

glossy marsh
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just yesterday i bounced over 5k dmg in a battle, i mean sure eny team was supremely dumb but still.
prammo is a problem so rare for me i don't even know what am i doing so right.

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gotta keep that wiggle up tho

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listen to something funky while playing it 😊

glass relic
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Hahaha the SP is just having so much armor trolling, even sometimes a tier 9 is having a hard time trying to shoot it with their accuracy.

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And when i got pissed off, I'll just shoot HE at it :P and relocate

glossy marsh
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just checked my WR on it and its like 78%, which i find nice. I'm not enjoying my type 61 though, i'm badly used to just hulling down with my meds

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i liked lights a lot, but it is no light, then again still at stock engine.

glass relic
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Well for some reason sometimes i wonder and want WZ-131... Chinese lights, basically like type 62 but should be a tech tree ones. But well there'll be no chances of that anyway.. only a little probably

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Or maybe Skoda's Shrug

glossy marsh
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would be cool, i played type 62 and liked it a lot with freinds acc.

glass relic
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Welp sadly I spent my savings for Mod 1, so i couldn't get myself the Pop up offers for the Type 62 D:

glossy marsh
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mod 1 is an excellent choice though

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im really determined to get STB-1 but so far that tech tree has been nothing but pain

glass relic
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Well yeah i had a lot of fun using the Mod 1, been craving for it since last year but then yeah i got the chances to get it and it's all worth it. Even though there is other T8 meds that can outclassed it.

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I haven't really going to researched the STB line deeply.. since i stopped at Despa Chi-To...

glossy marsh
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...well the line for me involved peculiar amounts of free exp spent

glass relic
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But the tanks like STA and Type 61 looks cool, but it lacks of survivability.

glossy marsh
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i liked sta more than type 61

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i dont know what im doing wrong with it

glass relic
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Well.. i kinda want to farm myself a free exp but... I kinda not getting the mood for doing so.

glossy marsh
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i mean i know im getting shot, i should prolly play with camo lots buuut i dont know. gun is ok tho

glass relic
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Well i play my meds being mostly 2nd liner or early damaging then relocate and find better spot.

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And preserve... My HP..

glossy marsh
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and then there's mod1

glass relic
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I used it up for early damaging process and hold the flanks, but with those kind of teams it's just... Yeah..

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Couldn't get enough supports on the medium Frontline

glossy marsh
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im used to hulling down and holding off a barrage of meds till help comes šŸ˜…

glass relic
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Hahaha... Yeah its a fun thing to do, if you're not getting hit on your cupola or HEATED on the mantlet.

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Well i played T-34-3 a lot before getting mod 1 so... I kinda still always preserving my HP a lot for when things got worse.

glossy marsh
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Never a bad idea. In other news i hope first B-C will be nice because the 13's were kind of meh. I liked american autoloaders so much more

glass relic
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Heh.. i prefer Frenchies autoloaders.

glossy marsh
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but that pen

glass relic
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The BC AP is fun... I used the stock gun more than the top gun.. since it has 4 clips and good accuracy and aim time, best for my aggressive scouting.

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I don't really have much problems with their pens.

glossy marsh
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Now that is new, we'll see how it goes.
Just gotta get them credsssss

glass relic
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The 13s is a fun tanks to use for me, especially 13 75 with around 10s clip reloads.

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And i used camo netting more than the optics, so i can creep up on some tanks and unload the clips.

I made my stock gun on BC AP have 2,7s aim time and a mediocre dispersion, which somehow helps a lot :P

glossy marsh
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I liked the 12t most from frenchies
75 gun seemed seemed most underpowered to me but frankly i don't remember, this was like my second tech line.

glass relic
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Tbh i mostly enjoyed the french lights... Of course.. with Max engines.

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Haven't tried the 13 57 so idk how it feels.

glossy marsh
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That goes without saying, literally unplayable without engines.

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The 57 feels like burning tanks

glass relic
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I have forgotten on how do i even manage to grind till the BC... While playing the stocks engines.

Burning tanks..?

glossy marsh
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Same thing as with gravedigger, which i luckily opened during Halloween 😁

glass relic
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Well... I made a mistakes when grinding the gravedigger at its event... I didn't preserve my schedule to grind it out with max effort and effectiveness.

glossy marsh
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Gravedigger was crate only though

glass relic
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Last year*

glossy marsh
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Ah right

glass relic
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If i remember of course, it was introduced when mad games introduced too.

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While having smasher... Got into stores too.. ahem.

glossy marsh
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The thing with it is with this many shots you had loke two ignited tanks every third gane lmao

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And from the looks of it, 57 is similar in this regard, but i could be wrong

glass relic
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Yeah, basically aim at engines deck or fuel tanks, then just shoot it and lit them up

glossy marsh
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It can really be terrifying 😬

glass relic
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Well yeah.. even for low alpha gun, it still cannot be underestimated whenever you're fighting it and not killing it first for some well.. free damages.

glossy marsh
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Low alpha is one thing, 550 burst is another

glass relic
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Yeah it is scary. Well I'll just be sticking with my 13 75,90s whenever i want to play at tier 7/8 french lights.

glossy marsh
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I'll stay with my t71 ^^

glass relic
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Well I'm starting to grinding the foch line.

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Still... At the ARL V39...

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Just hates the tumor on it, even though it has some nice gun depression, but i still can't use it cause of the big darn mailbox sticking out

formal turret
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Good luck

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You need to snipe basically 24/7

glass relic
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Haha nah i played it and wolfpacked with meds ;P. I've lost my braincells when playing that.

formal turret
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Can't go aggressive always but sometimes it works

glass relic
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Some certain maps i couldn't be a 2nd liner so I'm just going with mediums

formal turret
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Support meds yea it's ok

glossy marsh
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I don't even feel like starting any td lines, most lines seem mind numbing

formal turret
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Well I enjoy tds heh

glass relic
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I kinda want to revisit WZ-131 G FT, I've enjoyed it back when grinding the Chinese TD.

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Even tho I'm still grinding for the 113gft...

formal turret
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Wz-131gft is so good

glass relic
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280 alpha is good.

formal turret
#

Mobility as well

elfin meadow
#

Chinese Jpanzer 4

glass relic
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But with less DPM

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Or is it?

formal turret
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Less for sure

elfin meadow
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Jpanzer has best dpm of T6

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But it’s still pretty good

glass relic
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But still fun playing with it. I might get it back just for idk stress relief.

elfin meadow
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I gave up on China at the M5A1 Stuart

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I just couldn’t do it.

glass relic
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What? The Stuart is fun

elfin meadow
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Not for me

glass relic
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Heh... RIP

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I think it got Chinese modified gun? If i remember.

glossy marsh
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I hated the stuart with passion, but i don't remember why lmao
Jumped over it with free exp, rest is very good

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Unless we talking is2, in which case i don't even know what is that thing supposed to do with that armor

kindred wren
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Which line did you go?

formal turret
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Is2 is depression

kindred wren
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IS-2 is the IS in worse

formal turret
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Is2 is just bad

lavish valley
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Feel pity for those who bought is2 in offer

rigid thunder
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the IS-2 1945 is just better than the tech tree tier 7 IS tanks though

kindred wren
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We are talking about the Chinese IS-2, not the IS-2 (1945)

rigid thunder
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was responding to freakshot, you can't exactly buy a tech tree tank in an offer
oof

kindred wren
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And I was also talking to Freakshot

karmic arch
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What are y’all talking about?

bright folio
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I got an offer for the T34? Is the tank good?

shrewd basalt
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@bright folio its Good if U can Hide the Hull and Wiggle the Turret a little so it wont get shoot in the Cupola

bright folio
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I figured as much.

viral lodge
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šŸ¤” isn’t it basically the T29 in tier 8?

bright folio
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I always saw that the other way around, but that might work.

viral lodge
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I mean T29 is a techtree so that makes it the original to me.

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Well anyway T29 is fun but I’ve rarely ever had trouble with a T34 outside of hull down trades

narrow shadow
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T34 is even more positional based tank, with comparatively lower DPM but far better pen for the tier

viral lodge
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The main problem with T34 without a hulldown spot form what I’ve seen is just free hull damage armour wise.

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The tank itself looks kinda fun since hull down it is hard to deal with but personally don’t think it is worth $10 for a T29 in tier 8. ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

narrow shadow
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It's not really like a T29, because T29's hull armour actually works at the T7, at least vs meds and T6 tanks. T34 really doesn't, and it is a very passive tank to play, unlike T29 which can often just rush the enemy and bounce a couple shots on the way

viral lodge
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That’s true which really makes it not worth getting.

narrow shadow
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I think it is worth the 10 USD or whatever it costs. It's far cheaper than what you can get Lowe for without a discount

viral lodge
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I mean I have Lowe, $$ wise it is a good deal but compared to other tanks ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

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Also the Winter event should be soon.

bright folio
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That's what I'm thinking.

woven stone
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Yeah I’m guessing December 18

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Cause that’s when it started last year

quick thicket
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WG should add a high tier leopard, that would be fun and would make money imo.

karmic field
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youuu mean the Leopard PTA and Leopard 1? Or you mean the Bat Chat 25 T?

quick thicket
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I mean a high tier Leo,like the tier 5 one, a high tier tank with a machine gun for a weapon would be entertaining to have in higher tiers.

karmic field
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sooo the bat chat

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See, the thing with machine guns is, they're light damage against light armor

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having a high tier machine gun just doesn't work. Autoloaders work because they CAN have higher damage per shell, and still obey some laws of logic and physics

quick thicket
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Don’t remember the bat chat having 12 shells in it’s auto loader but I see your point. But just like the ATGM that may come out it would need some balancing. But you can’t say that type of play style would be unique at a high tier, mainly because most tanks are either a single shot or a 3-shot auto loader.

karmic field
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closes to high tier machine gunners we have is the Helsing

humble roost
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M4A2E4 Sherman offer worth it?

karmic field
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no, it's a bad tank

minor mica
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Is the T95e6 good to get ?

woven stone
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Well if you have the T110E5, then no

onyx coral
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E5 is like T96E6 but minus a bad cupola

royal charm
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I got the M4A2E4 2 years ago for free to return to the game lol

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Also got a pumpkin attachment with it

mortal igloo
#

@onyx coral not totally true. Anyone wish there was the obj907 ig tho, except me?!

glass relic
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Well having that ig would be interesting

mortal igloo
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A finally someone

glass relic
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But still couldn't imagine how It'll turns out tho.

mortal igloo
#

Also true

onyx coral
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@mortal igloo So... mostly true?

mortal igloo
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Yes @onyx coral why?

onyx coral
#

Cool, I can accept being mostly right about something šŸ˜„

mortal igloo
#

Noice šŸ‘

junior path
#

The closest thing to a "machine gun" like tank is the amx 13 57

glass relic
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And grave digger nailclipper too

junior path
#

And that's in tier 7, and that too lol

quick thicket
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But that’s 6, im talking double of that.

valid lodge
#

Which gun for T-54?

solid gate
#

What about the autocannons?

rigid thunder
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the dpm gun

glass relic
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Well the only tanks that uses machine guns are... Only T7 car here.

rigid thunder
#

don't forget the Light VIC

glass relic
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The leo,MT and others are using auto Cannon's

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15mm? Isn't that bigger than the 12,7mm 50cal

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Well the VIC is just.. quite ugleh but funny looking

solid gate
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Thought MT-25’s top gun was an actual autoloader. Light VIC and T7 Car use machine guns.

glass relic
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They're mostly auto cannons, other from those 2

solid gate
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Indeed. Still the autocannons are machine gun like in how they fire. Except MT-25’s if it is an autocannon.

tulip sail
#

anything with a pompom is a machine gun carrier

glass relic
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Lel Pom pom cannon i remember that thing used to be broken on Cruiser II or III if i remember.

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Of course... Before getting nerfed and 5,5

solid gate
#

5.5 was ridiculous.

glass relic
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The great purge...

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RIP all those.. lil tier one's

tulip sail
#

a lot of nessisary and unwanted changes

glass relic
#

I'm sad that i couldn't use the round shaped turret on my duck

tulip sail
#

ehh its low teir i mostly dont concern with them

glass relic
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Well i usually play low tiers when trying to do some lols or using low tiers in a training room, to mess around with.

solid gate
#

I hate that the E2 cannot get the M1A2 gun anymore. I like that gun better for performance and looks. I could do with the stock turret if they’d just give it the gun.

elfin meadow
#

When I’m able to what Collector vehicle should I purchase back? (Note I have to wait about another 6 months) I currently have the toaster and that’s it. I’m kicking myself for selling all those tanks that became collectors

rigid thunder
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The timer's been removed, you don't need to wait anymore

elfin meadow
#

And nightmare ofc

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Wdym

rigid thunder
#

you don't have to wait a year to restore another tank anymore

elfin meadow
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Why not?

rigid thunder
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Because it's been removed?

elfin meadow
#

Well I mean did wg ever state a reason why

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If I submitted a ticket right now could I do another one tomorrow?

rigid thunder
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._.

elfin meadow
#

Don’t judge me

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Answer yes?

rigid thunder
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yup

elfin meadow
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Oh

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Hehe boy

viral lodge
#

Is there a way to see which collectors you had? and can you only re purchase them if you had them when they became collector or does just having them researched count?

elfin meadow
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Look in your vehicles list in your profile

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And you had to have them purchased

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I’m not sure what to re purchase lol

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I might wait until after blitz fair cuz I have a lot of gold saved up I just wanna see what’s for offer

solid gate
#

I think you had to have owned and have at least 1 battle played in them.

elfin meadow
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Only own them

glass relic
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Well you can check on what vehicle you can recover once you're on the website.

teal yarrow
#

Any idea when is foch155 getting NERF??
Specially on its armour
Literally have been getting hard penning it from front ,even heat fails at times and it's been 2 updates and yet no news on Foch 155

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Peeps get 2 Foch 155 in plat and literally game gets over since its dmg per clip is good and then armour is supporting it allot if it wiggles even a bit

karmic field
#

It is not going to get a nerf. It is strong, but Wargaming seems to be buffing all vehicles to roughly that level of strength, instead of nerfing them.

teal yarrow
#

How to ruin a tier ,epic šŸ‘Œ

vagrant mason
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lol

tame jungle
#

Gotta say, I was in the same boat as you, I thought it needed a nerf too, but now that I’ve actually grinded up the line and figured out how to play it, I’ve discovered it’s weakness and how to play it well.

misty breach
#

When VK90.01P come?

stone parrot
#

M3 lee, pure tier 4 seal clubbing tank

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7.7 second reload with 160 average Damage + low tier match = ENDLESS CHAOS

elfin meadow
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@misty breach Blitz Fair. It's obvious to know what tank is in the sno globe in #game-news

solid gate
#

I really want a buffed Matilda

minor mica
#

Is the t26e4 super Pershing good ?

quick thicket
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@minor mica yes but it’s been powercrepped so it’s not as good as it once was.

minor mica
#

Pwowercrepped by which tank ?

misty breach
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@elfin meadow uaa I see. Thats cool. Thx. So, I must write request to Santa, or Ded Morozko, now!

crude gorge
#

super pershing was powercreeped by a bunch of premiums at tier 8, in my opinion it needs a gun handling buff

quick thicket
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And a forehead buff

crude gorge
#

yeah possibly

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tank is still good against people who can’t aim though

quick thicket
#

Right now with rigged mm it’s good, but once you come against an actual good player it becomes meh.

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Used to be my favorite tank, so personally I’d say it need a gun buff overall, more armor on its forehead (my main problem with it), and a slight speed buff(horribly slow when climbing hills).

crude gorge
#

the pershing is more ā€œsuperā€ than the super pershing

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i am starting to enjoy the pershing more, now that i know how to used it effectively

solid trench
#

Pz 38nA or Luchs šŸ¤” which one to restore?

rigid thunder
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the luchs turns as slow as an IS-5, so probably the NA

dusk furnace
#

Any tips in tiger (p) (btw Tiger p at Stock is a nightmare .-.)

narrow shadow
#

There is no tip in tiger P, you just rush into the enemy and hope he cant shoot. If you try to play it intelligently, you have weakspots everywhere and they will be hit. The only way to make the enemy miss is put huge pressure on him šŸ˜„

dusk furnace
#

Oh okay .-.

blissful rune
#

@minor mica
"Pwowercrepped by which tank ?"
Lowe, t34, exp, defender, is6,5,252u,8.8,tiger2,isu, and so many more

lyric oriole
#

IS-4 is stupid, I don't know if it's actually random chance or not but I keep Naturally Max Rolling 525 in it

minor mica
#

Oh

azure tendon
#

How much XP will the mini Sheridan cost?

glass relic
#

Mini Sheridan? The T92E1 you mean?

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If so then just by looking at average Americans tier 9 tanks exp cost then it might be 160k-180k exp probably, that's just my guesses.

bright folio
#

I wonder when the WZ-111 5A will come out.

narrow shadow
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After it becomes a better IS7

bright folio
#

Lol fair enough

woven stone
#

For sure during the winter fair...

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Cause last year there were two new tier X premiums featured in it

bright folio
#

Looking at the two, the IS-7 has better armor and slightly better camo and pwr/weight. However, the WZ is it's equal or very slightly better in everything else.

narrow shadow
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It will be changed. Obviously, it's inintial values have been based on the IS7, HEAT will sure be more than 303mm like IS7 etc

bright folio
#

Fair. Now that I think about it, WG probably starts a tank out with identical stats to some other tank, and then changes them from there as fitting.

narrow shadow
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VK90P was an identical copy of VK45B pretty much, 111-5A is right now an IS7 with a different hull

azure tendon
#

From the testing I’ve seen, the VK90P seems underpowered. I feel it almost exactly the same as the 45B

calm inlet
#

nah

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they buffed the armor

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its better than the Maus now, and faster, and with a better gun

sacred ravine
#

imo they should add the vk 90 as a tech tree tank leading from the VK 45.02 B

elfin meadow
#

Why

lyric oriole
#

VK 90 has no weakness on the cupola

rose venture
#

Hey ok since WG is breaking its promise not to introduce anymore t9 and t10 lights to the game. Can the bat chats be made medium tanks like they are supposed to be and we get the amx 13 105!!!

I want

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Give it

rose venture
#

Also I guess the amx 13 90 would become t9 like in console and pc, and that t8 would take its place

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The Bc 12t

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Which would be fine because the 13 90 is kinda a sad tank at t8

quick thicket
#

Add the abrams to the game lol

wise moth
#

@rose venture They should just make 13 105 branch off the tier 9 Bat Chat

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Other than that, I fully endorse your suggestion because Bat Chat as a medium would be awesome 😈

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And AMX 13 105 looks super smexy

rose venture
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Yes and it smol! That’s one thing I find a little bothersome about bat chats is that they are kinda.. wide

rigid thunder
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the AMX 13 90 is pretty meh but the BC 12t uses a 75mm gun and at tier 8 it'll be a pretty bad peashooter

runic crypt
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oh damn, ive almost got the teir 8. its whatever though im still getting it cuz the AMX bis is my fav and i want the teir 10

bright folio
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Simple solution: Have the BC-12T do something like what the amx 13 57 does-plenty of shells, and a quick inter-shell reload.

fleet berryBOT
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dynoSuccess Looks can lie#7640 has been warned.

rigid thunder
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heck

karmic field
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Mods are being more laid back these days, but just a heads up, the rules do still apply, for the most part

neat nimbus
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Don't you hate when a event you get a low tier free tank like tier 3 or ones you don't really play often nightmare is fine since you can get lot of earnings

bright folio
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My thoughts about free low-tier tanks are that they're free.

rigid thunder
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A nice garage slot, and if they're a collector, free gold

bright folio
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Plus the meme potential of playing with 13 other identical tanks for a match or two.

neat nimbus
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I sold that tier 2 ewhateverwasnamed

bright folio
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So did most of the rest of us.

neat nimbus
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750 of gold was worth almost what I spend in black Friday

solid gate
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The pz3a?

ocean valve
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Light Vic prob

solid gate
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The tank I mentioned is tier 3. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

karmic field
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LTP?

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BT-7 Arty?

solid gate
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Might be M2 or T1E6 that everyone got from the Christmas/other holiday event

neat nimbus
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T1E6 I sold that tank

tame jungle
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From leaked videos on YouTube about the sheridan

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I’ve determined the missile flight time is roughly 8 seconds

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Now if only I knew the m/s

karmic field
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well, 250/8 is roughly 40 meters per second, so you can assume that?

tame jungle
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Where did you get 250 from

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@karmic field

karmic field
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Everyone keeps saying it is a maximum fly distance of 250 meters

tame jungle
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I’d doubt that, that seems way too short

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I was assuming maybe 400 meters