vehicles-discussion

[sharp raven]

why Strv 74A2 is still counted as Blitz nation tank ??...

[crude plume]

They never said they fixed anything else. They only said the flag was added

[quartz ruin]

Because it was released before there is a Pan European line? Or was they supposed to change Mercenary Country tags in their database to become Europe for all players who have the Steve?

[dapper panther]

national flag ideas/suggestions & nation classification change ideas/suggestions:
Strv 74A2: change the flag to Swedish/French (due to the parts it is made of)
Tankenstein: move the tank to Hybrid nation, change the flag to German/Russian (due to the parts it is made of)
M4/FL10: change the flag to American/French (due to the parts it is made of)
Kpf.Pz. 70: change the flag to American/German (due to the RL background of the tank)

[quartz ruin]

Maybe changing country is changing too much of their code. And missing 1 could bring instability. Change background is different.

[rancid mauve]

Does the Chieftain/T95 have HESH or just a standard gun??

[royal charm]

Gotta sell some garbage collectors for black friday bundles. Im selling Pz III a, Light Vicks and T7 Car so far, keeping the LTP. Idk if I should keep or sell BT 7 Arty or M3 Light 🤔 any help

[dapper panther]

@rancid mauve AP/APCR/HE

[rancid mauve]

@royal charm what’s the HE pen like?

[royal charm]

Idk hold on

[rancid mauve]

Oops I meant @dapper panther

[dapper panther]

@royal charm definitely keep bt7arty
HE has 1mm higher pen than AP 😄

[rancid mauve]

Lol sorry 😂😂

[dapper panther]

not worth it to load any

[rancid mauve]

That’s horrible haha

[royal charm]

@dapper panther what about M3 Light

[rancid mauve]

For tier 8 even!!

[royal charm]

50 74 pen wtf, LTP has 80 110

[rancid mauve]

LTP has 110mm HE pen????

[dapper panther]

chief/t95 has the gun of a med, therefore loading any HE is just pointless you wont pen anything (except for a very few specific cases)

[torn seal]

I always load some he for German paper destroyers

[rancid mauve]

I sold that tank a long time ago too🙈🙈

[torn seal]

Even on low alpha tanks it's good, sometimes you need that extra damage to win

[dapper panther]

@royal charm obsolete after the "5.5 massacre"

@rancid mauve no, LTP has only AP and APCR, no HE

[rancid mauve]

Ahhhh that’s what I thought

[dapper panther]

i still have all pre5.5 collectors

and not intend to sell any of them (despite most of them are obsolete)

[royal charm]

PZ III A has 76/96 pen maybe I should reconsider 🤔

[dapper panther]

guess the tank 😄

[royal charm]

T7?

[royal charm]

Vicks?

[stable crystal]

some tier 1 tank

[dapper panther]

tier3

[lyric oriole]

@royal charm M3 Light for sure

[stable crystal]

oh

[dapper panther]

it's Pz II J

[royal charm]

@lyric oriole this was in answer to...?
Also do u reccomend keeping or or nah

[lyric oriole]

You know

An Answer to the only question you asked

[royal charm]

Well I asked if to "keep or sell" those two and you said "yes"

@lyric oriole

[lyric oriole]

My exact words were "M3 Light for sure"

Not sure How you interpreted that as "both" but I guess you have this figured out.

[royal charm]

Idk if to interpret it as sell for sure and keep for sure

[lyric oriole]

M3 Light is bad in the current tier 3 layout

[royal charm]

What about S35? I got this one in a crate. The AP pen isnt that good either

[lyric oriole]

It used to have it's days, I would sell it, you can always get it back at some point later with gold and a garage slot if you send in a ticket

[royal charm]

Lastly, Pz III A. This one was anniversary gift this year

[lyric oriole]

Keep that one it's only 50 gold, and it's pretty good

[alpine notch]

Isnt M3 Light supposed to be highest cred coeficient on tier III? I think i saw it before in an article

[stable crystal]

where the bob tank

[lyric oriole]

Even if it is it's that bad @alpine notch. Trust me

[royal charm]

Ok uhhh so black friday bundles... Who can help me steer in the right direction, IDK anything about the tanks. What should I get 🤔

I have 11k gold to spare

[rigid thunder]

you could wait until 29th November to see what the bundles are, but if you want to select a tank from the few offered now I'd say the T-54 Mod 1 for its generally strong frontal armour

[royal charm]

Wait, more are coming?

[rigid thunder]

they just announced that on the 29th, bundles of up to 85% off will be sold in 2h intervals

I'm not really sure if these bundles contain tanks or if they're sold for gold or cash only, but it's better to have as many options to choose from

[royal charm]

Source?

[rigid thunder]

the video they released?

[hushed shadow]

I doubt it’d be gold as they’ve got gold offers already

[rigid thunder]

yeah true

[royal charm]

Thanks, and the current offers seem to stay for enough time in case I dont like the bundles too

[spark marsh]

T-25 is good to make money?

[vital roost]

Should i get the mod 1? Or is it gonna get nerfed soon lmao

[woeful pendant]

Cab we make the Panzerkampfwagen IX into a prem tank?

[twilit siren]

Make dat a tech tank for Panzer 4 line

[calm inlet]

@vital roost get the mod 1

it won’t get nerfed

[woeful pendant]

It's already been nerfed

in the past atleast. It hasn't been touched since that last one

[lyric oriole]

It hasn't ever been nerfed

[woeful pendant]

Pretty sure it was nerfed in 5.5

[rigid thunder]

why would update 5.5 involve the nerfing of a tier 8 premium tank

[woeful pendant]

Idk I just heard somewhere back in january about it being nerfed the previous year

[calm inlet]

it wasn’t

[vital roost]

@calm inlet aite cool thx m8

[coral orchid]

why is better churchill mk VI then Churchill VII?

[tulip sail]

Because it has better stats

[subtle mason]

I currently have Bromwell and Matilda BP. I wonder, is dic ker max worth buying into this "squad"?

[narrow shadow]

No.

[subtle mason]

Why? Streamers praise it

[tulip sail]

The max is a lot of fun but has no relation playstyle wise to the other two

[woeful pendant]

It's kinda just...fun. It makes good credits and playes decent enough. However it has no relation to the Matilda or the Cromwell.

[subtle mason]

I know, I just want to build a park of fun vehicles that will help me to level up my crew faster

It's sad that matilda counts as a medium, though

Though, what if we compare max vs su100y, which one will be a better deal, more fun?

[upper bluff]

When fv4005 get the 183 gun?

[alpine notch]

Don't think it will happen to it, sadly with Deathstar still exist in Blitz? Whats the point having 183mm in FV4005?

[dapper panther]

@upper bluff when 183 gets the autoreloader with 3sec intraclip 😂 👌

[solid gate]

im grinding the fv4005 line, its pretty good

[warm snow]

I started to grind it thinking it had the 183mm like in other games but guess no

[solid gate]

on console, it does have it das why im grinding it

[wise moth]

Imagine if they put that autoloader on 183, and the 183 on 4005 😆

[dapper panther]

@wise moth I could've also said "When japanese heavies"

[boreal trench]

Which makes more credits the Lowe or the t26e4

[dapper panther]

suprapershing

[boreal trench]

@dapper panther do u hav both the tanks

[dapper panther]

i do

[boreal trench]

So if you did 2000 damage on both would the superP have more credits

Using AP

[frigid compass]

repair cost factor.

[dapper panther]

credit income is not by damage dealt only

[frigid compass]

if you get damaged a lot you make more creds with lowe

[dapper panther]

as in, 2k on both, but huge difference in everything else, make them uncomparable

[boreal trench]

Which one would your prefer

[dapper panther]

löwe

reason: more reliable armor, better mobility/size ratio, bigger alpha, MASSIVE TRACKSPONGE

ofc, t26e4 could be good as well, but dont expect CDC level mobility, but at least you can bounce some hits, its gun is kinda reliable

[solid gate]

T26E4 is silly. Also I found out that M4s went up the the A6 but nobody seemed to use A5 or A6 much. A4 may have been a thing too but again not many made and/or used.

[native iron]

Someone said the aim on this is bad...I disagree look at that snap

[wicked oracle]

Super Pershing is awesome

[scenic dirge]

is the cromwell b strictly better than cromwell?

[calm inlet]

uh...pretty much

[tulip sail]

@solid gate the A4 was used pretty frequently with the British and Russians as 7499 were built

Although the us hated them

[solid gate]

Well I guess I was wrong then. It’s just hard to find information on it. It’s not as well known as the M4A1 or the A3 variants.

[tulip sail]

You can look it up from the British designation

The Sherman V

[solid gate]

Still I find it interesting that there are A4s, A5s, and A6s. Sure there were A2s as well.

[tulip sail]

Yup and you're not even touching on the E series yet

[solid gate]

Well that’s kinda a different story when you start adding the E in there. Like upgrades and alterations of some of the A series.

[tulip sail]

Or complete mix mash like the e9

[solid gate]

I didn’t remember there being an E9. Might wanna go look again. Heh. The more you know about tanks the better. Because what is a tank enthusiast without knowledge?

[tulip sail]

Although is it really that different? The A just shows a modification of the m4 platform

The e9 was a post war variant given to different "allies" that needed tanks

Wait nvm I mixed up the e9 and e6 the e9 was the double duck bill

And we should probably continue this in #off-topic-discussion

[solid gate]

E6? I didn’t even see E6 on TE. E8 and E9 were there but not E6.

[weary cypress]

Add the M4A6 Sherman tank or the M4A3E2 Jumbo back pls

[lyric oriole]

@frigid compass Löwe has significantly more expensive ammo however

[eager pine]

Have a feeling jumbo will be one of the Black Friday tanks

[solid gate]

Is it bad that I love the Churchill I and prefer it over the KV1 oof

My favorite tier V heavy is Churchill I

The turret is bad and the speed is slow but everything else is good

3° GD is good? Bad hull armor aswell

[nova monolith]

WG pls Nerf standard B

It has too big tpm and dmg for shot

[solid gate]

The 57 mm gun is good too if you hate the gun depression, and you can sidescrape with the armor with how much better it is compared to the KV1 now

It's also pretty fun to play with the 2 pounder troll gun

Bad pen but 2.36 seconds reload

[crude gorge]

kv1 is pretty trash now

like t1 heavy was buffed recently and it is now a lot better than kv1

[thick trout]

The KV1 is still a great tank if you know how to use it, but if you just sit there expecting to bounce everything then you are going to be disappointed

[frigid compass]

KV-1 gun nerf was unneeded

[crude gorge]

kv1 armor was necessary but yeah, i do not think that the gun nerf was necessary

[topaz sentinel]

Hello I need an opinion on the WZ 111 and Chieftain T / 95, what is the most interesting for 5000 gold coins?

[crude gorge]

back then the armor was very troll now it is no more

[frigid compass]

its funny how wg nerfed the KV-1 side armor from 70 to 57 because too strong and then a few updates later they buffed the BDR G1 B side armor to 80

[crude gorge]

big brain

they buff the t1 heavy's armor to 76mm as well

[deep ivy]

@topaz sentinel in my oppinion WZ-111 is like 112 Glacial, which I love. Keep the Lower Front Plate down and whatch them ricochet in their useless hunt to fire their few prammo shells at that teeny tiny commander hatch and hit armor.

The Chieftain/T95 is slightly slow for its not so great lower hull armor. You constantly need to be in firing line to fire ur fast loading gun with 200 Alfa damage. It is faster than most meds. Playstile like a heavy armor medium but whatch out for that cupola

[solid gate]

@deep ivy wz 111 is just a weaker glacial, upper plate has 2 ugly weakpoints unlike the glacial’s

[deep ivy]

I havent noticed. All I see is 1k+ damage bounce per battle and me just saying: "they scratched my paint!"

Then again I can do the same with Kuro in tournament so it is not that strange @solid gate ...

I can do best damage of team without losing one hp

[solid gate]

that means that u are a 70% pro player!

[deep ivy]

@solid gate nope. My winrate is 49.61 over 8900+ battles in 5 years

[narrow shadow]

I usually disagree with maximov, but he is right

[solid gate]

fk off!!!! @narrow shadow 😂😂😂😂

[topaz sentinel]

Okey Thx @deep ivy

[deep ivy]

Kuro is one of those carry tanks. I'm working on my winrate atm. Trying to get it up by .1% a day. So to hlget that goal I play Kuro, T28 Deffender, FV217 Badger and T95E2

[narrow shadow]

Kuro is an useless tank because VK36H is better in every single way without exception

[frigid compass]

and ARL-44 is also better

[narrow shadow]

ARL is different, VK36 is literally that but better

[deep ivy]

@narrow shadow explain this to me: yesterday evening in tour I outplayed every ARL in tournament with my Kuro. Simply bounced enemy shells on my turret AVERAGING 3 kills per battle

[eager pine]

You were playing noobs

[deep ivy]

Nope. Made it to round 4 before we got beaten in Black Gold Ville

[narrow shadow]

I outplayed an E75 in my VK45b. Does that mean VK45b is better than E75? No. Not even close.

[patent shard]

The Matilda BP is bae

[solid gate]

@narrow shadow i’d say that the only thing better on the kuro is the turret

[narrow shadow]

Well it depends

Vs low pen tanks, Kuro's is better because it has smaller cupola, but vs higher pen tanks which can pen the turret ezpz for kuro, VK36 one is stronger

[solid gate]

vk36 is the best t6 imo

[grizzled sinew]

is lekpz m 41 90 mm a good tank?

[solid gate]

very

[wary saffron]

I find the Churchill mk.6 quite enjoyable at tier 6 too

It seems to have the best armor at tier 6, I'm getting steel walls all day 😂

[deep ivy]

I have my own question about tanks: IS-6 or jagdpanther 8.8?

[frigid compass]

@deep ivy Lowe

[narrow shadow]

none

[deep ivy]

I got lowe already and think its shit. And shot to pieces

[zealous anchor]

Tf

[wary saffron]

I'd say IS6 for less experienced players as it's more forgiving, and Jagd if you know what you're doing

[frigid compass]

Lowe and crap goes together like oil and water 🤦

IS-6 is crappily armored and pretty meh dpm

[wary saffron]

Not really if you use the armor effectively

[deep ivy]

The moment you show up everyone focusses you. And it is not like you can hide that weak spot in ur armor like a LFP

[frigid compass]

get good

Lowe is a good tank lol

[deep ivy]

Oh, I can handle most tanks. But not Lowe. If you angle ur sides get shot and if u go straight they aim for ur world sized letter opener

[wary saffron]

I'd say go for the IS-5 as it's similar to IS6. Only difference being you can't side scrape with IS5 due to pike nose

[frigid compass]

@deep ivy bet you got low stats in the lowe because you cant play it right and call it bad

whats your highest researched tech tree tier

[wary saffron]

I love using the Jagd 8.8 on mines, just climb the hill, peek over it and get bounces all day 😄

[frigid compass]

Jagd 8.8 is basically a Tiger 2 but without the op hull armor

[wary saffron]

Pretty much

[deep ivy]

Mine is Maus. And E100. And FV215b 183. And researched IS-4 but havent bought it yet

[wary saffron]

Pre-buff* tiger 2, with a better gun & upper armor

[deep ivy]

I got 37% winrate in Löwe, 1500 damage a battle and 907 xp. 50 battles before I came to the conclusion it isn't worth my time

[wary saffron]

Just hide the hull, poke out your thick forehead and gun & spit shells like there's no tomorrow

Anyway, who's looking forward to the new ATGM tanks?

[deep ivy]

I am. If I ever get to T-49

[wary saffron]

I used to hate my T49 lol

Mostly cause I sucked

But I recently re-bought it, learned how to properly use it & fixed my WR in it

[civic fiber]

centurion 1 needs a buff

[narrow shadow]

No

[wary saffron]

I think I used to have about 40% in it? I managed to fix it up to 59%WR and 1600 average damage

Is 1600 avg dmg good for a T49?

[lost valve]

@wary saffron fairly good

[civic fiber]

@narrow shadow genius 💩

[narrow shadow]

Not my fault you suck in cent. It is a good tank

[wary saffron]

Thanks @lost valve

I used to shoot without thinking about spaced armor & modules and I often ended up doing 250-300 dmg rolls on tracks and stuff

Now I'm actually using my brain with that gun, going for proper weak spots / clean armor and such

Also I kinda learned from my own mistakes to counter enemy T49s, I just show them my side and they often hit my tracks heheh

So just a friendly tip for you all, don't go for tanks sides in a T49 except if you have a clean hit opportunity 😉

[eager pine]

Lol @ cent being a good tank

@wary saffron that’s great until they HE pen your side and roll you for 800+

[solid gate]

Since it's a Tier 9 tank, and since IT WAS BUILT this way, give the ATGM capabilities to Kpfpz 70, it can make it up for castrated 152 mm and worst HE ever. WG added a second gun, and an OP one, to Foch 155, so I don't see reason not to give Kpfpz a second gun for ATGM purposes

[zealous anchor]

@narrow shadow Yep it's one stronk med

[alpine notch]

@civic fiber Cent 1 is fine as it is.. why a buff needed?

[civic fiber]

Because I can't really find any strong point about this tank, turret not strong enough, big hull with no armour, low alpha, average mobility. Gun handling ok but what??

@alpine notch

[deep ivy]

Can be worse. Ever heard of caernervon?
That piece of &$%* is less armored than centurion, slower and wider...

[civic fiber]

No it's got more armour I think

[narrow shadow]

It's got more armour on the upper plate, otherwise it's the same and it's far slower

[spark basin]

caernarvon has some bandaid consumables

[deep ivy]

Caernervon is not worth it. Not even with both sandbag armors

[median oak]

Caernarvon OP

Hulldown somewhere an burn anything down.

Cent I could use a buff to mobility as right now it’s a worse Caernarvon

[narrow shadow]

The thing is, cent can do very much the same thing, it looses only like 200 dpm and upper plate for the extra mobility, its worth it imo

Especially the 20 kph reverse speed is sweet, words can't describe how badly I suffer with 12 kph reverse speed in caern

[median oak]

But the extra 6kph and less DPM and less health doesn’t work out to be a great trade to me.

But considering the Tiger 2 can do 38 kph - both Brits could use some love in the mobility department

[wanton grove]

I have both, caer and cent and it turns out that I likely prefer caer

[solid gate]

KV1-S or KV2?

i prefer armored tanks with a good firerate but the kv2 is tempting with such big damage

[viral lodge]

KV-1S is better

Also after it can go down to the KV2 line anyway

[solid gate]

MT-25 or the T34-85?

[gentle wasp]

@solid gate mt is more fun and better for skilled players, 34-85 is more solid overall and for new players

[scarlet kraken]

The is7 is probably the wprst T10 heavy and is in desperate need of a buff

Its honestly depressing just how bad it is

[north musk]

Thoughts o nt3485victory I rlly want it

[gentle wasp]

@north musk looks hot. plays well. will be cheap. 3/3. go ahead and get that thing

[north musk]

If only I had gold or money or if they were selling it 😭

[gentle wasp]

might be at winter fair, or coming later for black friday

[quartz ruin]

@north musk why? T34-85 Victory is just a regular T34-85 with the 2nd gun. It gets a special paint job and a better credit earning. I got it because it's free otherwise I don't bother to buy it.
If you want the credit making, you could enrich the T34-85 next week when they have permanent enrichment discount. Bonus with regular T34-85 you get better gun, more variety of paint job and attachments.

[north musk]

No gold or money remember?

[quartz ruin]

Well, ad gold helps 😁 😁. Or opening weekly container. I got mine from that.
Well I peeked in the game and enriching a T34-85 cost 550 gold, which will be discounted to about 358 gold. It's equal to free 50 gold ad click for 8 days.

[tiny plume]

bruh

[alpine notch]

@civic fiber Please just understand that starting from Cent 1 to FV4202, they are "universal tanks", meaning they almost of a jack of all trades, except the turret and gun itself

That means not going out in open alone, and hide your hull, only exposing your turret instead is only thing that work in this tank (and i think turret armor is much stronger than Pershings)

How accurate the gun? Very accurate, i would say, means sniping from far is viable for this tank (even though brawling should be avoided at some point, considering how fast Cent 1 gun reload time is)

They are also limited top speed, but fast acceleration if you notice this, that means going ridge-lining also works too if you have found good cover for it

I mean what buff needed for this tank? I personally dont think a speed buff would do the thing (maybe reverse one could be it)

[solid gate]

The Churchill I is good

[lime thistle]

what language?

[elfin dust]

Nil you leave that chat?

Yes

[lime thistle]

This is the chat as soon as I posted HE doesn’t bounce

[elfin dust]

Yes!

[lime thistle]

Ight boys I just need some credits then I’ll have the T49

[elfin dust]

Cool

[calm inlet]

@lime thistle that’s Vietnamese

[zealous anchor]

Indian jk

[eager pine]

How good is the E5 these days? Grinding up the American heavy line

[limpid berry]

Goddamn t95E6 thing. That heavy tank that’s a medium

That thing has armour and gun of a heavy and speed and rotation of a medium

First time I’ve said this, but, Nerf it

Most tanks that need to be nerfed I don’t care about but this one tank in particular

[calm inlet]

wait what?

that tank sucks

god awful armor and only decent mobility for a heavy, bad mobility for a medium

[rigid thunder]

the turret has a pretty bad weakspot, and the hull can be gold spammed

[calm inlet]

if you hate that tank, wait til a FV215b shows up

[solid gate]

The E6 is a joke compared to the E5 and even Mk6

[limpid berry]

I played it in my IS-7. And In my IS-7 the FV215B causes no problems

Buttttt i have to consider that I was doing a 1v1 so it went from a distance battle to a close up in 10 sec

And yes the hull is not good lol

Idk I just kept getting pushed into a side hug with that tank and it kept hitting my engine deck

[eager pine]

That’s cool guys

[solid gate]

E5 can still hold its own

It’s old but not obsolete

[devout tapir]

E5 is awesome 👌 👌

[solid gate]

E6 hulldown is pretty good tbh people under estimate it you have to out your gun up to hide cupola on the reload

People tend to bounce cuz its sometimes a troll turret

[teal yarrow]

When is Foch 155 getting any nerf
Any idea ??

Literally peeps using 2 Foch in plat is just like not at all easy to handle

[narrow shadow]

Lmao, so you fought the tank at its absolute best position, in hulldown and not close, and in a tank that is weak vs that kind of tanks by default and concluded it's OP? You are soooo wrong @limpid berry

[solid gate]

Finally got top gun for T-54 after grinding
Rip winrate

[solid gate]

t32 needs a buff

[hollow belfry]

Sure

It's a victim at it's tier. Just wonder why 75% of the T32 drivers i meet are below 45% wr.

It may have good armor (especially the turret) but the rest is just bad.

[crude gorge]

still wonder how that tank managed to get the 4th highest winrate out of all the tier 8 heavies

[hollow belfry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crude gorge]

yeah, can't believe that the lowe has a lower winrate than the t32

[hollow belfry]

Guess it's more due to RNG and mm than the tanks themselves

[crude gorge]

oh wait, t32 only have like 1010 players

for the past 3 months it is

[hollow belfry]

Yea
We must count all the 100 battles player buying a bunch of t8-10 prems/collectors

[crude gorge]

maybe

[solid gate]

i have it at 78% crew and its a pain to play right now

[crude gorge]

you might need to spam prammo in a lot of cases cause your ap pen is 198 which isn't enough when you fight against some heavily armored tanks

[frigid compass]

cant believe Ferdinand has one of the highest WRs on the charts

[crude gorge]

yeah somehow

[hollow belfry]

Imagine having 198mm pen on your top gun in a T8 heavy
Wait
Thats the T32

[crude gorge]

ferdinand has the 2nd highest???

[frigid compass]

Chrysler K also has that terrible pen and no one cares

[crude gorge]

not too many people own a chrysler k

[solid gate]

they have the same gun btw

[crude gorge]

i think? there is like 331 players

[hollow belfry]

Because the Tomahawk is not a tech tree premium so very few ppl own it
And it also has a somewhat slightly better manoeuverability

[crude gorge]

you could somewhat go frontline with that tank better based on the hull armor

just remember to hide that lower plate i guess

and that commander hatch

[solid gate]

E6 is an amazing tank, can definitely be competitive if played correctly.

yes it does not have 50 km/h top speed, but have u seen how fast it gets up to its top speed?

[hoary flame]

Which should i buy wz-111 or chieftain

[deep ivy]

Wz-111 has a juicy lfp but can tank some hits if u hide it

The turret on chieftain is itd only strong point. So see what u like best @hoary flame

[solid gate]

Meh T32 is amazing at hulldown

But that's about it

It's quite decent

its painfull

[hoary flame]

Maybe i should take chieftain

[solid gate]

Also no one complains about the chrysler having bad pen because you can't pen it anywhere but the lower plate

[hoary flame]

Thank you so much guys

[solid gate]

Yeah chieftain is much better than wz111

[deep ivy]

I was wondering about some tanks myself. I got a Kuro Mori Mine. As I played it I found out it is basically a tier 6 tiger. But what is the difference between it and Tiger 131 except for its unique appearance?

[solid gate]

Nothing

Except Tiger is even worse

[deep ivy]

At my last tournament Kuro was nice. Better than cromwel

The problem I got rn is that we do try to get heavies into tour. I hate ARL 44 (to slow and armor not good enough), M6 has deffinitely been nerved since the last time I played it (over 2 years ago) and I dont like VK 36.01 (H) since its front armor is trash

So I got myself a Kuro. And I ike it. But now 131 caught my eye

[narrow shadow]

You already got warning for trolling and you keep doing it?🤦

[deep ivy]

This isnt trolling @narrow shadow

[crude gorge]

are you legit?

[narrow shadow]

Yes it is, you say about the fastest T6 heavy it's slow and about the best armoured one that it's too weak armour😂 😂

[spark basin]

this is actually a bruh moment

[alpine notch]

Obj. 244? For comparing to actual IS?

[solid gate]

@narrow shadow just ignore. They like attention

[spark basin]

wait why are you talking about pc wot tanks

[alpine notch]

I mean you guys been comparing Tigers just now-

[spark basin]

obj 244 doesnt exist in blitz though

[deep ivy]

@narrow shadow some people dont have the upgraded engine yet and vk36 frontal melts vs ARL 44s

[tulip sail]

Wait why are you comparing tanks that aren't fully upgraded

[deep ivy]

Because i take all factors in the balance. Upgraded it is faster but still not armored well enough

[narrow shadow]

🤦‍♂️

[solid gate]

Would you say the IS-2 (1945) bundle for 3,250 gold is good?

[tulip sail]

That's not how that works but ok

@solid gate I bought it last time it was sold ant it's a pretty good tank but tbh I rarely play it

[stark pond]

Would you guys rather buy vk 30.01 or 28.01? Which one is better

[gentle wasp]

@stark pond 28.01 all the way

[rigid thunder]

I'd go for the 30.01

[stark pond]

What makes which tank better /worse?

[rigid thunder]

They're both pretty different tanks, but I prefer the VK 30.01 P because of the strong turret, good mobility and high alpha damage for its tier

[gentle wasp]

@stark pond wait do you mean the vk 30.01 P or vk 30.01 D

[crude gorge]

you mean the vk 30.01 d?

[hoary flame]

How good is the Cromwell B guy's

[stark pond]

Between these two @gentle wasp

[rigid thunder]

oh lol

[deep ivy]

@hoary flame
Its ok. Good dpm and nice speed. No armor but survivable

[gentle wasp]

@stark pond Vk 28 is far better. nearly the same gun but Vk is much faster. Fun ride. @hoary flame completely amazing. One of the best tanks to learn "flexing". Looks nice, very fast, amazing gun depression. Would be worth $20, this bundle is a great deal.

[hoary flame]

Thank you guy's

[stark pond]

@gentle wasp aight, ty. Ill tryhard for vk 28 then

[gentle wasp]

@stark pond sounds good 🙂

[solid gate]

lol 3333 dmg

[limpid berry]

Would be better if WG gave IS-7 a buff to hit 50kmh^-1 without using booster

[gentle wasp]

@terse tinsel yes. Ravioli is a similar tank (no armor, decent speed, decent gun) that just got an alpha buff and that is exactly what the Japanese line needs

hope they will be unique from existing td lines. They will have little armor so I wonder how good the guns will be

i wont be getting them so i kinda hope they arent XD

[tulip sail]

I'm not so sure about that

Them being op then immediately nerfed

[gentle wasp]

it has been done before and will be done again (French heavies, UK tds, probably Italian meds)

[tulip sail]

But look at the Chinese tech tree, german heavies and I wouldn't really call the French heavies op when they came out also if you look at similar tanks to the one they teased they aren't either

[gentle wasp]

@tulip sail the french heavies were a lot better, i think the t8 had a 4 shot autoloader

[tulip sail]

Plus look at its size I doubt itll be a hard target

And yes they were better but saying they were OP is a bit of a stretch

[gentle wasp]

@tulip sail well we don't know the specs of it so it's hard to speculate right now but all we are saying is that there is a precedent

[tulip sail]

It's not really that much of a precedent it's more of a hit or a miss but we can make a few observations about it just by taking a look

[gentle wasp]

@tulip sail it is a precedent because it has happened in the recent future. It's just a legit fear of what might happen

[viral lodge]

@prime socket Id wait for friday. there will a sale set then, mod will still be available after. Mod1 is worth it to buy though in my opinion.

[fleet berry]

Wilk0079#1581 has been warned.

[lofty dock]

Why was he warned?

[calm inlet]

why does it matter lul

[solid gate]

Buff Pershing

[fleet berry]

Wilk0079#1581 was banned

[ripe ferry]

OI

is7 and maus need apcr buffff to maybe 340

[devout tapir]

Plz make the WZ 5A a tech tree tank :( you already released 4 new T10 prems this year

[lime thistle]

Knowing WG, it’s gonna be A Prem

[regal zealot]

*Collector

[royal charm]

Which tank after tier 5 Leopard?

[solid gate]

@royal charm vk 28.01

[royal charm]

Why

[solid gate]

Because that have to like that

[royal charm]

???

[solid gate]

¿¿¿

[royal charm]

Why that and not the other

[maiden hollow]

should i get the t-62 or 140 either that i can get both but eh

[wanton epoch]

What's the best tier for new comers to learn how to play?

[regal zealot]

Tier V-VI

[gentle wasp]

^^^

[zealous anchor]

Doesnt apcr traditionally have less pen than heat

[fast grove]

Well yes, but actually no

[zealous anchor]

for prem rounds*

[zealous anchor]

.

[wise moth]

Stealing my meme I see.

The funny thing is, I didn't even intend for it to be a meme, I was just gonna use it as a copy-pasta when I made it; but as it so happened, its first use just happened to be in the memes channel, and I kinda memed myself into a corner lol

[tulip sail]

dont worry i stole it the moment i saw it

[zealous anchor]

XD

[jaunty nexus]

This is how chain reposts start

[wise moth]

Well, it's a pretty niche meme

[knotty wedge]

can i know which tier 8 tank that worth the buy for 5k gold?

[shrewd basalt]

Chieftain T95 and T-54 Mod 1 I think

[quartz ruin]

Dear wargaming,
I hear you are testing a buff of T 62 with a -8 degrees of gun depression.
Please buff the ammo of my pedestrian T54 mod 1. An APCR as standard ammo and a HEAT as a premium is not asking too much, right? Give it something more than armor and transverse rate.
I am not asking much. Not like an accordion like turret roof that Stalin's engineers ingenuity had to invent for making that -8 degrees of gun depression you are giving T62 works. Or was that Kruschev's engineers? 😀 😀 😀

[rigid thunder]

The mod 1 is already great as a bad player curb stomper, it doesn't really need a buff. The armour and DPM that isn't as garbage as the Type 59's make it more than decent to hold its own

[frigid compass]

APCR standard is basically like asking for a nerf lol

[rigid thunder]

and yeah that too

[frigid compass]

you're basically exchanging 5 degrees of normalization for 2 degrees

like why would anyone in the right mind want that

[solid gate]

Let's make russian meds even more op

Forget about the murican meds

Sheesh

[shrewd basalt]

Lol Mod 1 has same front Hull Thickness with T-54 tech tree so why its need a buff

[quartz ruin]

Right, and why do T 62 needs a -8 degrees of gun depression?

[rigid thunder]

who knows, but how is buffing a tier 10 med related to buffing a tier 8 one?

[quartz ruin]

I am jealous

[rigid thunder]

then get the T-62A

[shrewd basalt]

IDK but I have Both Obj 140 and T-62A and its basically Balance lol

[quartz ruin]

@rigid thunder it's still a long way to go there 😁 😁

[rigid thunder]

I have both the 62a and 140 as well, I honestly prefer the 140 but the 62a is easier to ace

[shrewd basalt]

Yeah I like the 62A because it has Faster Aim time And Steady Aim even without Vertikan Gun Stabilizer

[quartz ruin]

And now they are giving gun depression to it. Leopard 1 going to be sulking at the corner 😁 😁 😁

[rigid thunder]

I doubt they'll actually give it 8 degrees though, they'll either not go through with it or tone it down

[shrewd basalt]

Hope they Add Obj 430 and 430U to rival the Chinese 120 and 121

[rigid thunder]

you mean completely outclass? Yeah sure, more Russian tanks

[quartz ruin]

Eh, Stalin Bias 👍

[deep ivy]

Stalanium tanks

[karmic basin]

Prem Tank trade in would be a great edition to the game

[royal jetty]

Stalinium armor

[solid gate]

Hey
I have a question
Panzer IV D or Hetzer first

[livid yacht]

It's like 50 battles to get both

[solid gate]

Heh, I know, it's long to get one of em
I am maybe going for the IV D but the Hetzer offers more damage and pen

[ancient vigil]

I got the STB-1 very good tank. When crew 100% I will also be able to spot.

[frozen mural]

Hey im on american t1 t6 heavy line same engine kost around 5k and 17kxp howww??

[quartz ruin]

Because grinding 😀 😀
Seriously, probably because it's almost the same tank.

[frozen mural]

Yeh and same engine wy triple cost then

[red grotto]

which t8 from OFFERS* tab do you recommend most likely?

[solid gate]

t54 mod 1

111 is worse than Is3 so you don't want that tank in your garage

but they are all pretty bad

[solid gate]

@solid gate I agree with that.

WZ-111 is the worst of the 122mm heavy tanks. 112-2 on the other hand is one of the best out of them.

[narrow shadow]

I'd day Rev is better than T54 now

[solid gate]

I need to work on Comet and other tier 7s.

The rev is an awesome deal but I think I'm going to pass. I just bought two more tier 8 premiums. I now have way more tanks than I have to play

[sharp fox]

when the black friday hits, they will sell tanks in gold, not cash, yea ?

[rancid mauve]

Ok can we talk about those M6 American prem tanks running rampant in tier 7/8??? Ridiculous armour on them and don’t start saying “aIm FoR tHe ChEeKs” because let’s be honest, they’re quite thin! 🤷🏻‍♂️

One slight turn hides either side cheek so now what are you going to do???

I’m happy that the tier 8 heavy meta has changed, but now we have heavies with insane turret and hull armour running around.

[median oak]

Shoot their sides...

[rancid mauve]

But when a good player is cruising around, he’s not showing you sides!

[median oak]

They are countered the same way as T1 Heavy and M6. Track and go around if isolated. Side hug in a Russian etc.

If in doubt load Gold.

On some maps they are very tough to dislodge. But if that’s the case, pick an easier target and leave it for later when you can tag team.

[solid gate]

In a heavy you shouldn't have to go around another heavy to be able to pen it

Heavies go face to face, mediums flank around

[tiny plume]

na

[flint sorrel]

Bonus code

?

[tulip sail]

If they are right next to hard cover and you've got a large caliber gun you can occasionally bank an he shell to hit there side armour

[neat nimbus]

i think i need sell it so i can have space for a garage

[tulip sail]

I wouldn't but that's just me

[neat nimbus]

why? i know is rare

[quick anchor]

I've been keeping this T-46 for such a long time hoping that it might receive some buff

[narrow shadow]

🤦‍♂️

[tulip sail]

@neat nimbus 250 isnt worth it at all and besides its really kinda pointless to sell non techtree tanks

[royal charm]

What if he wants the gold

And he can restore it later if he regrets it

[calm inlet]

^

[viral lodge]

For the M4A1 Rev a few things, 1: Is there any prem/tech tree tanks that act similarly and are better than it? 2: would it be worth getting this instead of waiting for Friday?

[gentle wasp]

@viral lodge i would recommend it, it's a very nice tank with the 350 alpha now.

[viral lodge]

👌 I think I’ll get it, doesn’t hurt that it looks nice.

[gentle wasp]

@viral lodge amen. the premium time alone would cost 2500, so a great deal

[viral lodge]

I’m just worried this is one of those.
Here’s a great offer, spend your money
Few days later, here’s an even better offer 😉

[wise moth]

@viral lodge It's like a cross between an STA and a Skorpion G

[gentle wasp]

@viral lodge i mean 5k gold is just not that much really.

[wise moth]

Also, even if there is a better offer later, this is still one of the best deals we've seen in a long while

[viral lodge]

I mean I’m spending about $30 USD this event, trying to limit myself semi.

[gentle wasp]

lol. this is the best time of year to spend money tho. BF and Blitz Fair consistently have the best deals

[wise moth]

I mean, given that people get hyped up about being able to spend 'only' 12k gold on a single tank at the winter fair events, 3.6k gold for a revalorise + 1.6k gold for 30 days of premium is practically a free giveaway

[gentle wasp]

well it's either 20k for a new tank or crates with 2% drop rate so yea

[wise moth]

Not gonna lie, I'm intensely jealous. I already bought the Revalorise, but the deal is so good, I almost want to sell my Revalorise so I can buy it again

[gentle wasp]

amen. I paid 20+ for it. and pre-buff too

[viral lodge]

I mean I’ll be getting this practically for $1-2

[gentle wasp]

do it. if you have any modicum of skill at all you will love it

[viral lodge]

I have $10 in Microsoft points I’ll be using so only need to spend $1-2 to make up for it.

[wise moth]

Even if you don't have skill, best in class DPM and great alpha will let you shoot your way out of sticky situations, and 10 degrees of gun depression and great gun handling (especially for such a large gun) will forgive mistakes too

[viral lodge]

How is the turret armour? Can I just stare at the enemy?

(Not in the dumb way)

[gentle wasp]

ignore the haters (cough DMG), it is a solid tank. turret armor is not amazing but good vs other lights/meds.

wouldn't recommend standing still tho

[wise moth]

@viral lodge Well, the mantlet is ~200mm effective, so against low pen enemies, yes, but I still generally don't trust mine lol

[viral lodge]

I mean I understand the game pretty well, I’ll just play this like my Charioteer with better handling I guess.

[gentle wasp]

you can play it like an aggressive td because of the gun. yea basically that lol.

[viral lodge]

I mean it seems like a firefly at tier 8

[wise moth]

@viral lodge If you like Charioteer, Rev is literally the Charioteer but better

[gentle wasp]

sans HESH but yes better

[viral lodge]

welp, guess I’m buying in a minute lol

[gentle wasp]

noice. looking forward to screenshots of your monster games

[viral lodge]

Well thanks for the information 👍

[gentle wasp]

anytime

[gentle wasp]

@formal holly i would go for e3. BC is pretty bad right now, just ask positive

[formal holly]

Ok

[wise moth]

BC isn't very good, but I still play it because I think it looks super cool

[gentle wasp]

smexy

[wise moth]

That's basically my secret criteria for whether or not I like a tank. If it looks super cool, it must be cool

[gentle wasp]

Without even looking at the details? such a shallow mentality.

for shame

[wanton epoch]

You have to play to the tank's strengths

Almost any tank can do well if you play it like how it was designed.

[wise moth]

Exactly. So if your tank's strengths is that it looks super cool, you play to its strength by bedazzling your opponenets 😆

[gentle wasp]

coughs in japanese tank

[tender thunder]

Dont you love when a tank has the power to flank, do 500-900 damage, run away then come back to do it over and over again because that's what T49s do.

[gentle wasp]

yea its annoying but not really that good tbh

[lyric oriole]

Honestly you have to be doing something wrong to let a T49 get away for free by doing that because I've never had that happen to me

[royal charm]

Im undecided between getting the Rev or waiting for 29th 🤔

[gentle wasp]

@royal charm Rev. 5k gold is not that much

[royal charm]

For me it is

[gentle wasp]

id still go Rev. Hard to find a better prem, especially for that price ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[royal charm]

Hmm I have 10k gold and I could buy another 2k cheaply....

[gentle wasp]

do it

[viral lodge]

Playing first rev round rn

[royal charm]

@viral lodge keep me updated ok?

[gentle wasp]

^^^ me also

[viral lodge]

Got a map I only play soso on so I’ll play a 2nd round of it goes bad

Ya, hate that map

[royal charm]

I was originally gonna spend 10k gold to get the Black Friday tank. How is that one?

But then I was advised to wait for 29th deals

[gentle wasp]

@royal charm they all are pretty mediocre. wait is the good play

[viral lodge]

That was a bad round on my part so I’ll play another round and give feed back then. (I got derped right off the bat)

[gentle wasp]

rip.

[royal charm]

Got a 2nd offer for Nomad now

[gentle wasp]

pass. Rev is far better

[viral lodge]

Nomad?

[gentle wasp]

T23e3 with legendary camo

[twilit willow]

how much?

gold?

[gentle wasp]

@twilit willow 5k for both Rev and T23e3

[royal charm]

Nomad doesnt hace premium time

M4 seems like the good deal

[twilit willow]

i should waited

[gentle wasp]

yep

[wise moth]

Rev is probably the best deal that's been offered in a long time

[gentle wasp]

^^^ hes orange listen to him

[viral lodge]

I am not playing good rn, I got sniped 2 times before the spot thing showed up good lord, playing after eating was a bad idea.

[gentle wasp]

lol

[viral lodge]

But the tanks actual performance is great. My positioning is just bad rn.

[gentle wasp]

once you get the hang of it and get the gun set up well it is a beast. stick with it!

[royal charm]

Ok the one thing I need to know, how is the cred coeff. Im broke and really need credits.... The tech tree/equipment dales drained me of all capital. Cant even afford normal cammo

[gentle wasp]

@royal charm 180%

just below the best credit earners (Lowe is 185, Super Pershing is 190). Rev is better than Lowe and 3x better than SP

[royal charm]

How does it compare to JPanther II

[viral lodge]

Ok, got a better round.

[gentle wasp]

@royal charm a lot better

[viral lodge]

Ya, really like it, definitely will be using it.

[gentle wasp]

gun is loads better

[royal charm]

90% on JPII

[viral lodge]

So ya, this thing makes 2x the silver

[royal charm]

Yea Ill get it first thing tomorrow, Im waking up very early. 13h left for me for deal

[viral lodge]

👌 just saw the Nomad deal, compared to the Rev feels like a rip off lol.

[gentle wasp]

yea definitely lol

[wise moth]

Oh it's certainly a rip off

[royal charm]

Oh ye, how is the gun, autoloader?

[gentle wasp]

@royal charm Rev gun is single shot 350 alpha, 2500 DPM (more than Panther II)

[wise moth]

Rev is a single shooter

[royal charm]

Well doesnt matter. Ill get it anyway

[gentle wasp]

good

[viral lodge]

It is satisfying to hit with lol

[wise moth]

Easily one of the best tier 8 med guns, other than maybe Lorraine (which doesn't really compete in the same category)

[gentle wasp]

packs a punch don't it

[royal charm]

Ok, yes, Ill get it now then

[gentle wasp]

noice

[viral lodge]

Prob the best $1.64 I’ve spent 🤔

Also I like the handling it has

[royal charm]

Time to give it a camo

[wise moth]

Yeah, .14/.14 is excellent on a tier 8 med. Only a few tier 8 meds have better gun handling (some have .12/.12)

[royal charm]

Love the gun already

Oh yes I see credits now

This tank is amazing

[gentle wasp]

ayy another convert

[wanton epoch]

The gun depression on the British tech tree is absurd

The tier five cruser has 15 degrees of gun depression

[gentle wasp]

t5 euro one has 15 i think

[wanton epoch]

Crusader *

But yeah. You basically become near impossible to hit if you position right

[minor mica]

Is the Jp. Pz. E100 good to go for ?

[gentle wasp]

yes

[minor mica]

why doesn’t the maus have a 150 or 170 mm gun ?

It was on other types of maus tanks

[frigid compass]

@minor mica no you missed the part where it says "In January 1943 Hitler himself insisted that the armament be a 128mm main gun with a coaxial 75mm gun"

[minor mica]

Yea I read that part along time ago

[solid gate]

The other types of maus tanks are the tiger maus @minor mica /e100 🙄

[tender thunder]

let's be real guys, who ever is in charge of wotb is garbo

[neat nimbus]

should i spend my free xp for this?

[gentle wasp]

@neat nimbus eh it's an ok tank but just grind to it. not worth spending all that free xp

[neat nimbus]

ok

so 750 gold no bad i actually spend almost my gold

[gentle wasp]

@neat nimbus thats pretty good actually

[neat nimbus]

i sell it may WG give me that again

[gentle wasp]

yea for a t2 which you probably dont play that much thats a good amount of gold

[neat nimbus]

i said "may" knowing they gives you low tiers collectors

[tender thunder]

AMX 50 100, is strong but not really op

[gentle wasp]

^

[tender thunder]

not worth spending on it.

[gentle wasp]

yep. m4 45 is not great but not worth skipping really. save xp for new lines or horrible stock grinds

[neat nimbus]

sold that low tier so hey i reocover almost my gold

[gentle wasp]

nice

[tender thunder]

lemme take a guess....we cant swear.

[neat nimbus]

i knew if i was patient i would buy it

[gentle wasp]

@tender thunder i wouldnt try it @neat nimbus niiice. really really good tank

might wanna use some free xp to get that monster maxed out

[tender thunder]

lmao

bruh tiger 2 is not as strong as I thought

[gentle wasp]

no its almost OP

[neat nimbus]

i want WG make a legendary camo that changes the name for king tiger would be cool have a historical camo

[olive sky]

borderline broken it is

[tender thunder]

Tiger is garbo lmao

[gentle wasp]

um

[tender thunder]

t34 melts the tank

[olive sky]

all 3 tigers are really good tanks

[gentle wasp]

@neat nimbus that would be amazing. @tender thunder dude it is pretty much OP

[tender thunder]

most tanks pen you, you're a joke in t9

[gentle wasp]

have you seen this thing post buff the armor is insane

[tender thunder]

it's only op against equal tier meds and lower tier tanks.

[olive sky]

the T34 can melt almost any tier 8 heavy, tiger 2 isn't an exception

[gentle wasp]

@tender thunder Tiger is wayyy better than t34. Better DPM, gun handling, armor, speed.

please sir find me a better t8 heavy

[olive sky]

T34 doesn't compete directly with the Tiger 2, it's a different kind of tank

[gentle wasp]

id say it kinda does. same tier heavy. but slightly different playstyle. what would you compare it to then? @olive sky

[olive sky]

contrasting the Tiger 2 with the Löwe can make the differences more noticeable

[tender thunder]

Bruuh lowe is so much better

[rigid thunder]

You could compare the Tiger 2 to medium tank stompers

[gentle wasp]

Lowe has a slight gun edge, Tiger makes up for it with better armor and better speed

[olive sky]

Löwe only has slightly better pen, a little bit of dpm and credit coefficient

[rigid thunder]

considering the armour does well against tanks with bad pen, but anything above 230-240 will pen you easily

[olive sky]

I'll have to disagree with that, my tiger 2 works just fine against tier 9 heavies

[rigid thunder]

I probably just suck in the tiger 2 lmao

[tender thunder]

Tiger isn't op, its garbo.

u try to side scrape and they shoot your cupola

[rigid thunder]

then just hide it

the cupola is mounted on the left side of the tank

[tender thunder]

and they can shoot your turret too tf

[gentle wasp]

@rigid thunder straight up it is 240+ all over the front hull. That's using zero gun depression and zero angling

[olive sky]

turret can't be penned easily, same with cupola if you keep moving back and forth

[gentle wasp]

yep. And if you say "load prammo" then I'll take my chances against a Lowe doing 260 and me doing 310 all day

[rigid thunder]

except the lowe doesn't need to aim

[gentle wasp]

tiger has good enough gun handling that if you aim a bit you can easily pen

176 lower plate and 180 on turret. easy penning for Tiger II

[rigid thunder]

the turret's kind of a hard shot, and if it is a front on engagement the lowe doesn't even need to spam gold rounds

[gentle wasp]

yes it does what are you talking about. if it is a front on engagement the tiger can easily exploit the weak turret cheeks, which are pretty large.

[rigid thunder]

234 base pen on a tall tank, why would it even need gold rounds

[olive sky]

tiger 2 has 240+ unangled, lowe definitely needs gold

[gentle wasp]

@rigid thunder yes as i said, straight up zero angling zero gun depression it needs gold. Lol.

[solid gate]

Low effort meme I drew

[thin thicket]

AMX 30B a decent good tank

[solid gate]

Looks like a pickup truck

[frigid compass]

@solid gate still looks better than the cybertruck

[zealous anchor]

Hahag

[solid gate]

picked this up today. I love it, if this is how the 268 plays I'm going to get it

It's currently the tier 10 I'm best at

I have 2900 wn8 in it

[plucky summit]

My commander got knocked out when I never took damage?

Can crew members get injured from bounces?

My commander died when a RHM borsig bounced me with AP

[glass relic]

Probably your commander earings got blown off because of the sound from the borsig shells bounced off near the commander.

[solid gate]

Tech Tree România

😑

[zealous anchor]

No u

[lyric oriole]

I finally have it, the question is will it be nerfed

[zealous anchor]

Hopefully not ;)

[warped flint]

I want back the kv2 we loved

[tulip sail]

Itll be a awhile till I love it

[lyric oriole]

You can have the KV-2 back that you loved when you stop playing it.

[scenic dirge]

do I get t23e3 or t-54 first proto

[narrow shadow]

If you need to ask yourself this question, I don't think you should get a high tier premium at all @scenic dirge

[scenic dirge]

lol

[solid gate]

just tell him to get the mod 1 @narrow shadow 😂

[scenic dirge]

I don't play mediums and am only up to kv-3 and tiger 1 in tier 7 so I really have no clue

judging by maximovs response I assume t23e3 is the way to go

[spark basin]

t54 mod 1 is better

[glass crypt]

as a proud owner of the t23e3, go for the t54 🦐

t23's only redeeming feature is 30kph reverse speed 🍤 which honestly feels amazing

[scenic dirge]

alright so not the t23 lol

how about rev or mod 1?

[rigid thunder]

I'd go for the rev, the type 59 is pretty much better than the mod 1

[livid yacht]

Not everyone got the rev offer

[scenic dirge]

how does the mod 1 armour compare to tier 8 heavies?

[calm inlet]

hmm

well its roughly ~215mm effective (front plate on flat ground)

so, premium ammo will most likely be penning it frontally, just like most Tier 8 heavies

[rigid thunder]

the turret has a mantlet of around 180 effective as well, but surrounding that area is basically an autobounce zone

[scenic dirge]

anything like vk 36.01 h level of armour?

[rigid thunder]

the mod 1 has no cupola but the roof is 15mm thick

[calm inlet]

well, there’s no Tier VIII that’s completely unpennable from the front, but if we’re talking VK 36.01 H level, you’d want to go with the M6 EXP, Obj 252, IS-5, VK 100.01 P, or T32 if you can get that puppy hulldown

[solid gate]

Tacam T60 Tank

[boreal trench]

Should I sell my t95

Someone can give opinion?

[calm inlet]

well, its not that good, but its got a few things going for it:

1. T95 has ultimate meme status
2. It leads to the T110E3, one of the best Tier 10 TD’s
3. It does have a nice, derpy 155mm gun
4. Armor for days

id keep it unless you hate the thing

[boreal trench]

I don’t hate it

But iam wanting to see who will keep it or not

[tiny rose]

Should I buy the Narshon?

[brisk orbit]

nashorn is a true glass cannon

fragile but with a powerful dpm monster 8.8cm

[solid gate]

crazy tank, i loved it, i used only normal AP on it, no need for prammo

[tiny rose]

Alright

[frigid compass]

noobs shouldnt play the T49 change my mind

[dire fulcrum]

chief is kinda good now

[boreal trench]

Should I put optics or Camo net on e3

?

[solid gate]

Ofc optics, you won't camp in e3

[light vector]

You know what needs to be talked about?

[solid gate]

@frigid compass I'll go one better. Bad players shouldn't play light tanks

[light vector]

The T28 Prototype

[solid gate]

There is nothing sadder than a Bat Chat driven by a 40%er.

[light vector]

Lol actually though

[solid gate]

It is like handing the keys of a new Porsche to Helen Keller.

[light vector]

Ll

[solid gate]

T28 Prot is decent but t28 is trash

[light vector]

*Lol

I mean I did get an ace with the prototype

[frigid compass]

imagine if T28 actually had the right front armor

it would be a T95 but with only a 120mm and without the extra tracks and spaced armor

[light vector]

So... I guess it's ok, but thats not saying much

(The prototype)

[thick trout]

I loved the prot and did really well in it but i can definitely understand why people cant get it to work

[tender thunder]

Yuh man the T-28 Prot I made it work but the freaking T-28 is garbage as hell

I mean I made it work too but some games I just got penned by everyone and no bounces.

[thick trout]

And its not like you have a turret or enough gun depression to hide most of the front either, and you cant bait shots with 50mm of sidr armour in the upper section

[gentle musk]

Wz-111, Chieftain or T95E2?

[narrow shadow]

None

[rancid mauve]

None

Just get IS-5

[rigid thunder]

chieftain, it's actually a good tank now

[rancid mauve]

Agreed

[bright folio]

I just got the IS-2.
1: Any tips?
2: Should I unlock the top turret or tracks first?

[wanton grove]

Turret first, and gun, and then tracks

I personally recommended using the stock gun with more dpm and accuracy

[bright folio]

I have both the guns already. Also, the guns get unlocked before the turret on this tank for some reason.

[wanton grove]

Then go for turret and then engine, and the last tracks

its a great tank honestly for me, dont know why people call it trash compare to original IS

[bright folio]

Have the engine too. Those I probably got with the T-34-2.

Question: can you sidescrape it?

[wanton grove]

Not really effective

[bright folio]

Hmmm

[rancid mauve]

Ok, I think the Standard B is my new fav medium. I’m in love with it! I run it with CS and pen everything

Sprinkle in some HE rounds and you got yourself a fun tank

[solid gate]

Someone read the top gun's caliber for me?

I know the mid and last one is a 15cm and 12cm

[narrow shadow]

Cuz it's the most broken med at T9 alongside the more noob friendly AMX 30 1er @rancid mauve

Bad bad advice imo. I say skip the turret, IS2 sucks and the turret gives u nothing @bright folio

Also use the 100mm gun, it's far better

[low kestrel]

What nation is more good?

[narrow shadow]

Bad question, try again

[low kestrel]

Why?

[narrow shadow]

What is more good nation? There is no such thing

[solid gate]

All nations have good tanks

[low kestrel]

What nation is better

Or wait

[narrow shadow]

There is no such thing

[low kestrel]

Ehhh nevermind

[hushed shadow]

If you’re new, maybe you mean what nation is the easiest/best for you?

[wise moth]

The Americans

[rancid mauve]

@narrow shadow well easy there. It has a great gun and meh speed, but it has paper armour. The tank sees tier 10 tanks! That’s a lot of derp! So I don’t think it’s broken. Strong yes, but can’t be broken. Just like the BCs!

[narrow shadow]

It's nothing like the batmobiles, because it has far better gun and autoreloader

Just look at the tank stats for the last patxh. That not sound broken to you?

[wise moth]

@rancid mauve While Tony was kind of blunt about it, he’s right; the Standard B is pretty broken. It’s basically a 50-120 with more mobility, accuracy, DPM, and isn’t penalized by a long reload

[narrow shadow]

For 55-65% players, it's average wr is nearly 65%. Tiger 2 for comparison, a tank widely considered to be bonkers broken has about 62% for the same players sample. We good now?

[rancid mauve]

I haven’t looked at the stats yet, so I’ll get on that.
Lol I wasnt looking for an argument guys so let’s all calm down. 😅
I see all the positives but the lack of armour just tips it over to the other side imo.

[solid gate]

am i the only one that senses a buff to the french light line instead of an italian nerf??

uh oh

Grinding pantera rn, what are they nerfing

[rancid mauve]

You might be on to something @solid gate

[solid gate]

I mean people begged for a 4 shot 310 or 3 shot 350 but WG doesn't like ig

[rancid mauve]

@solid gate grind away mate. You’ll enjoy the Pantera and the Standard.

[solid gate]

So far I am, Pantera is very weird tho imo, Ik the standard is like a PTA but better

we will see... the way they do it lately makes me think they will buff all the other tanks to powercreep the italians

[wise moth]

@rancid mauve You don’t need armor. In fact most of the most broken tanks in Blitz history have had no armor: Charioteer, Ke Ni Otsu, OG Borsig, WT E-100 in PC, etc...

[rancid mauve]

Well yeah! They need to be compensated for the lack of armour

[solid gate]

It's called being able to go fast

[rancid mauve]

And let’s be honest, if every tank was balanced, no one would play. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[narrow shadow]

What?

[wise moth]

Many, many tanks have been broken/OP with no armor, but there’s never been such thing as a broken tank with a bad gun.

[narrow shadow]

I think you forgot un in Unbalanced. You surely meant that right?

Well to be fair, 112-2 is close @wise moth

[rancid mauve]

Nope I meant balanced. If everything was equal, then the game would be stale. Think of CoD MW2. Everything is fun because everything is broken!

[narrow shadow]

But balanced doesn't mean the same, balanced means as powerful but different

Or it should, incontext of this game

[solid gate]

and everything being broken balances it out, i think the equilibrium should be there, in different ways, wot blitz has monthly updates that will make the balance better and better

[narrow shadow]

Yeah, they will, starting with T62 and8 degrees of gun dep😂

[rancid mauve]

Now that’s just insane 😂😂

[solid gate]

complainers are gonna complain, we shall see

[narrow shadow]

They will, while I spam my T62😏

[rancid mauve]

^ see my point exactly.

Broken tanks are fun and people will play the crap out of them until they are nerfed

[solid gate]

but then another broken tank will surface, and we will grind our way towards it, this is what makes the game fun!

[rancid mauve]

Exactly

That’s why I want the Smasher

[solid gate]

besides, lately the broken tank are in the tech tree, who restricts you from grinding it?

@void mango chill out with this kind of comment, you are showing just how childish you are.

[rancid mauve]

Have a life 😂 we all need to sleep and relax at some point, right???

So when do you sleep?

[solid gate]

is it my fault that i own a business that let’s me have a lot of free time? have i got no life?

[rancid mauve]

When do you call it a night in and just relax after work/studying?

[solid gate]

I for one don’t really like playing easy stuff I like having a challenge to drive

@rancid mauve ignore this, tryna stir up sh.., @solid gate another kind of species here. 😂srry

[rancid mauve]

Lol

[solid gate]

the sacrifices u need to make on ur way towards a good tank. Broken tanks are fun 🙂

[rancid mauve]

Well, good thing we all have the right to play what we want when we want and as much as we want to🤷🏻‍♂️

[solid gate]

you are the enemy of the people

[wise moth]

@rancid mauve I absolutely agree with you on that premise. I hate that Blitz balances tanks by merging strengths and buffing weaknesses, making everything bland and blah. But even I have to acknowledge that sometimes nerfs do have to be in order (for example even MW2 had to nerf the 1887’s )

[solid gate]

@wise moth we can all agree on the fact that the tiger 2 and the foch are overbuffed, standard be falls into the same category

[glacial crest]

it's probably just me but I legit hate playing the foch155. contemplated selling it a few times, I always do terribly in it

[solid gate]

It’s not for all you know

@glacial crest nab, helpless, delete

@void mango i do think they know better than us all what and how to balance the tanks, they have acces to every bit of info unlike us

[wise moth]

@solid gate yeah, Foch and Standard are definitely overbuffed. Tiger II is also overbuffed, but I wouldn’t put it in the same category as the other 2. It’s overbuffed, but not by that much

[solid gate]

yea, can be dealt with, i’m just putting them according to people’s complaints @wise moth

@solid gate what's up?

[wise moth]

Honestly, Tiger II as is is basically fine. Maybe just move 10mm from the lower plate to the upper plate and it would be perfect

[glacial crest]

I mean the Tiger II was perfectly fine before the buff all it needed was maybe to buff the turret a bit

[wise moth]

^

I like that this buff puts Tiger II more in line with the rest of the line

[glacial crest]

idk I preferred it to the Löwe mainly because it is faster, but now? the tiger is just sitting in my garage because I don't wanna play it

[solid gate]

@solid gate all chill now it seems, but my brain apparently is permanently damaged, some guy sent such message can’t recall who exactly

[rancid mauve]

😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[wise moth]

@void mango Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, tanks like my Skorpion G really need to be nerfed (along with a host of other premiums)

[glacial crest]

the 121 is definitely overbuffed though

[solid gate]

@glacial crest it had no armor to be honest, but it was good at sidescraping, all it needs it less thickness on the lfp

[glacial crest]

maybe like 40mm less on the lower plate

[solid gate]

Anyone notice a surge of clanners driving 121 and 113?

[glacial crest]

basically the 121 has a DPS of 420 and DPM of a 113 now

[wise moth]

I kinda enjoyed hating on the 121, but now it’s the meta 😢

[solid gate]

lmao it has more dpm than most t10 meds and more alpha

[glacial crest]

I liked the 121 when it only had the DPM, it really didn't need the alpha buff

[wise moth]

IMO, the DPM needs to be tuned down now that it has the proper alpha

[solid gate]

Tbh I’m kinda intrigued if the leopards getting that dumb fake 1k dpm buff

[glacial crest]

Probably not 1k, I'd assume 200-300

[wise moth]

@solid gate I made that up off the top of my head, but that would be pretty funny

[solid gate]

i wanna see the leo have a 5.5 reload

[wise moth]

I usually aim for the cheeks because they’re easier IMO

Although I don’t see them all that often in NA rn

[glacial crest]

I guess I'll need to fly to Minsk to see how they balance tanks because tbh mediums are back in the tier X meta again and I'm not sure how to think about that - the 62a, 121..

[solid gate]

@glacial crest 7.x will be the heavy/ td buff time

8.x, introduction of ARTY

[glacial crest]

wonder where they got the idea to buff the gd on the 62a though, it really doesn't need it

[wise moth]

I’m waiting for the autoloader meta

[glacial crest]

I'm waiting for the saltwagon meta to arrive, I'll just roll in the 62a, park behind a ridge and make people salty

[rancid mauve]

Good thing I’m still grinding the T-54. Just in time for a buff to come to the T-62A

[tiny plume]

No

[civic fiber]

will KV-4 ever get some love?

[solid gate]

is good, i sometimes use it on tournys 🙂

[bright folio]

I wonder, how would giving the IS-2 the aimtime of the T-34-2 affect it?

Wait wut

[bright folio]

The KV-1S is a balanced t6 with 400 alpha.

[solid gate]

Broken doesn't mean good.

[bright folio]

What level of drugs are you on?

[solid gate]

Nah but ok

[bright folio]

Cromwell B and Pz. 4 S would like to know your location

[solid gate]

Cromwell B is the best tier 6 med, and I'm sure this entire server can agree.

[bright folio]

The VK has the worst armor of the three tanks currently mentioned.

[solid gate]

Reliably? No, not really. Sure you got a small gap to pen, but it's far from unreliable

And no not really, the 30p has some decent turret armor. @bright folio

100-80mm isn't super strong bucko

[bright folio]

I'd equate the turret on the VK 30 p and Pz 4 s.

[solid gate]

Where are you getting 200 lmao

that green spot is 0

Get lucky and it's only 82

[bright folio]

Other tanks better than the vk 30 p:
T-150
SU-100
ARL 44
JgdPz 4
Vk 36.01 H
M4A3E2
Type 64
P.43 Bis
Chaffee
Kuro Mori Mine

[solid gate]

Type 64 is garbage, along with the T37

Replace em both with the Chaffee.

Yes I can agree the 30p is very strong as a medium tank, but it's not the best.

[bright folio]

Really?

[solid gate]

This is big brain time

Sure, if you're fighting against AFK's

[bright folio]

The ARL 44 can probably pen 95% of the VK 30.

[solid gate]

the 30p also has a cupola, and you know, maybe you can hide from a hulldown 30p?

[bright folio]

@void mango are you playing 25%ers?

It may be a decent tank, maybe even strong with the good mobility and alpha, but it certainly isn't the best tier 6.

[solid gate]

He said tier 6 med, but I still don't agree

[bright folio]

I legitimately think that 98% of this server can agree that the Bromwell is the best t6 med.

The other 2% either haven't played in or against it, or are @void mango.

[tiny plume]

K v2

[fleet berry]

The Big Bad#5670 was muted

[solid gate]

That’s a big F

[tulip sail]

Or there completely biased and say the e8 is better

Like me

[bright folio]

Oof

I liked the E8. I do wish I’d gone and bought the E2, however.

[tulip sail]

I've got all but the fury

[solid gate]

the big bad's face rn

how could you mute a genius

“What if I don’t want to be the bad guy anymore”

@tulip sail I have the Fury

[tulip sail]

Grrrr

[solid gate]

Did you get the Ravioli?

[tulip sail]

Yup

I've had her for a long time

[solid gate]

It's a very solid tank.

[tulip sail]

I loved it pre buff and still do

[solid gate]

I picked it up yesterday. I'm really liking it

[tulip sail]

I figured you would

[solid gate]

I sold mine months ago fml

[tulip sail]

Why?

[solid gate]

Got tired of it

[tulip sail]

Oof

[solid gate]

You can get back as many premium tanks as you want now

And it's literally instant

[tulip sail]

Yeah but if you buy a tank and you don't like it you kinda wasted your time

[solid gate]

the best t6 "med" in my opinion is the kv-1s(it simply plays like a big gun, side-scraping-able med)

a big gun that hits only 50% of the shots, not good at all

[calm inlet]

KV-1S is a heavy

even though it’s relatively mobile, it still has armor and a non-medium gun

[solid gate]

its a mix

[lyric oriole]

KV-1s is a close range fighter, you can negate it's accuracy by playing up close. It also has the mobility to make that easily possible

[solid gate]

I can't stop playing this tank. 2nd ace already!

I'm definitely going to get the 268

[tepid sedge]

Which gun on the 36.01 H? I'm using the 88 but the tier 7 75 has 2 dpm more but lower alpha

[scarlet nest]

2dpm more? Then i rather use high alpha one

Low alpha pea shooters problem is
You need perfect place to use full dpm
But high alpha gun only needs to hit n hide

[karmic field]

The 88 is better

[bright folio]

I remember playing the KV-1s twice. Once to get the IS, once to get the KV-13. I hated the tank the first time and found it less accurate than the KV-2. The second time, I loved it.

[royal charm]

Similar thing happened to me with Crusader

[bright folio]

Had something similar happen with the Pz.4g and the SU-100.

[royal charm]

Hated Crudader when I started it, took one year break, loved it at return

Found out later it got buffed

[narrow shadow]

I actually liked the 7.5 more on VK36, because of the 220 APCR pen. You can pen every T7 without aiming pretty much, and you bully lower tiers the same so it doesn't matter

[wise moth]

I can't stand low alpha

[bright folio]

I prefer the 8.8, but I think that it's personal preference.

[karmic field]

@wise moth So you must love the blackdog, with it's glorious HE shells

[wise moth]

@karmic field I also don't shoot much HE unless it's basically a guranteed pen, or I have no choice

For me, I just don't click with the black dog since I cannot hit anything with it

[karmic field]

Do you play the blackdog? It's pen is insane. I can pen the underside of a T-34 using CS, and it has German accuracy

brb

T34*

[royal charm]

Do you guys keep old vehicles when moving on to the next?

[calm inlet]

most of the time, yeah

[zealous anchor]

@royal charm Personally I hate low tiers tanks so I only keep tier 6+

[rigid thunder]

I keep tanks that I enjoy playing

[lyric oriole]

I used to not do that but I do now

[rich heart]

How is the revelaroise? Is it worth the gold?

[lyric oriole]

The 5000 gold offer yes

[tulip sail]

Its fantastic

[viral lodge]

I bought it, best purchase I’ve had in a long time.

[tulip sail]

I've gotta say it's my second favorite t8 med depending on the day

[solid gate]

I’m back! Boo! By the way Comet is actually shaping up now. Guess it was really the crew skill level and poor teams.

[tulip sail]

Tbh the comet felt boring to play when I played it last and idky

I have the same problem with the t-34-85s

[solid gate]

It can outdpm a Panther I think but it has less penetration.

T-43 is better than KV-13 to me now.

[tulip sail]

Its got good stats but I just don't have fun playing which is weird bc I'm a med main

[solid gate]

Funny. I’m not sure which class is best for me. Perhaps mediums and heavies. Lights and TDs (especially TDs) I struggle with more. Except certain tanks in the classes that are better for me I think I’m a heavy and medium guy.

Well TDs are generally my worst class. They and I don’t mix well. Except maybe something like T25 AT. We’ll see.

[karmic field]

I think you would like the Russian tanks in general, tend to be good all around playstyles

[tulip sail]

I love tds and meds but I also enjoy most heavies

[solid gate]

Well some TDs I’ve played I hate. SU-85, SU-100, AT 8, and AT 7 to name a few.

[bright folio]

I liked those. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[tulip sail]

I only hated the at 8 no clue about the at7

[solid gate]

AT 7 is better than AT 8 but still sucks.

[tulip sail]

Yeah I love the at15a though

[scarlet nest]

I didn't enjoyed at 15a too lol

[tulip sail]

It's a particularl tank but can be a great sniper

[bright folio]

The AT 15 was pretty fun. The AT 15A doesn't seem to be particularly great.

[glass relic]

The AT15A is quite funny.. with the DPM it has.. on the 17pdr

[solid gate]

Is there a difference exactly stat wise between the two tanks? 🤔

[glass relic]

Probably some armors and you can HE AT15 back way easier with that.. uh.. plate thingy on the bag, unlike the AT15a. That's what i know so far about those 2

[glass relic]

Not to mention the gun choices² and modules upgrade.

[solid gate]

Thanks @glass relic @tulip sail

[tulip sail]

One fights t9

[glass relic]

Well the 17pdr can be a nightmare.. for you when fighting a T8 with the at15a

[solid gate]

Yeah I noticed the traverse rate is where the at 15a is better 😯

[tulip sail]

With apcr it's fine for me

[glass relic]

Lel of course the apcr won't gonna be a much of a problem.

[tulip sail]

That's something that always confuses me is why some people are dead on against using pramo

[past osprey]

@solid gate pyro noises

[bright folio]

@tulip sail Same. It exists for a reason.

[tulip sail]

Exactly

[bright folio]

Especially heat as a prammo. Despite being unilaterally the worst ammo, it has advantages and disadvantages, so you have to judge when to use it, and deal with the consequences.

[glass relic]

HEAT are basically the best when fighting.. a tank that is on an angle that will make a lot of ricochet

[tulip sail]

Yup although I'll usally just relocate instead of using most heat

[glass relic]

But i prefer more on APCR than HEAT...

[lime thistle]

@glass relic HEAT is main ammo on T49, you’d think it’d be HE...

[tulip sail]

Its better that its not

[bright folio]

Yes. heat, as an ammo, sucks.

[glass relic]

Yeah.. i suffers a lot when playing T49.. since the HEAT is just.. annoying.

[bright folio]

I'm marginally sure that AP is the best ammo type, pen and damage excluded.

[viral lodge]

pen and damage excluded