Then a teammate had to bail me out
#vehicles-discussion
viral lodge
frigid compass
a 122 can just shoot 500 damage into the type 64 per shot
viral lodge
They weren’t using HE. (Luckily)
frigid compass
bruh
runic mango
In mad games it has ramming rig. Its hilarious ramming heavies in the E25, killing them.
frigid compass
why do people not fire HE at Type 64s and Hellcats
viral lodge
No clue.
frigid compass
when even tier 4s has the HE pen for it
viral lodge
I always keep 6-10 HE on me for no armor tanks.
frigid compass
i always have all ammo types
viral lodge
I tend to run 20-40 AP, 2 heat/apcr, 6 HE normally.
frigid compass
Stock Shells for anti mostly everything
Prammo for anti thick boys
HE for paper panzers
narrow shadow
2 HEAT? Why so few?
viral lodge
Matters if I’ve stockpiled silver
viral lodge
If I have a lot of silver and won’t be getting a tank soon I’ll run 10.
I have 3, I’m just focused on 3 tech tree tanks.
narrow shadow
For example, T44 I use 25 AP 25 APCR and the rest HE 😄
frigid compass
i always run full equipment, full provs and full consumables with quite a bit of prammo aswell
viral lodge
Btw thoughts on Vulcan? I had no problem spanking it in my BP.
But I had a teammate use it another round and they had top damage.
frigid compass
idk havent ever faced it also BP imo is just worse compared to a tiger p its just less flexible in situations
viral lodge
I beat a Tiger P full hp in my 15 hp BP yesterday
frigid compass
only thing really any good of BP is turret armor and dpm
then that tiger p player sucks @viral lodge he could've potentially just fired HE if you were hulldown or just penned your hull
viral lodge
I was angling, it worked
runic mango
Tank, the vulcan has decent per shot damage. It has no gun depression, and its slow.
frigid compass
most tiger p players are not so good
viral lodge
True.
runic mango
I took one out in my e25, it had full health.
frigid compass
Vulcan in Valkyria Chronicles has the same gun as lupus
viral lodge
Are any of the VC tanks worth spending $15 to get?
frigid compass
but wargaming is just n o and gave it a 110mm for no reason
runic mango
Lupas
frigid compass
if wz-112-2 didnt show up I'd probably get lupus lol
viral lodge
Is wz-112 worse or better than it?
frigid compass
wz-112-2 is a tier 8
narrow shadow
None of the valkyria chronicles tanks are worth it tbh
frigid compass
cant really say about lupus because i never played it but it has quite a bit of armor and a 122 i guess
viral lodge
I have the Löwe, T-25 and Type 64 (I like them all) so I’m not desperate.
frigid compass
on the other hand the 112-2 has quite thick armor and an ok 122 with quite nice mobility
Lowe makes me want to sleep instead every time i play it
its so boring to play
viral lodge
I like the gun with the armor, turret annoys me sometimes.
frigid compass
112-2 practically has no turret weakspot and the only real front weakspot is the not that big lfp
runic mango
If you want a easy, good cred prem, get the t26e4 super pershing
narrow shadow
But 112-2 has trash gun
frigid compass
T26E4 pershing is worse at creds than lowe
narrow shadow
T26E4 is nowhere near good prem
viral lodge
I currently have 2.7k gold, I have $15 I can spend on gold if I want, so that brings me to 8k approx, so that is why I’m always asking if premiums are worth it.
frigid compass
@narrow shadow the gun is ok ish accurate if rng is on your side its just a soviet copy 122mm that acts like a soviet gun
viral lodge
I hate the KV1S so far, almost about to quit the line.
frigid compass
pen is ok against most tier 8s if you struggle just load gold
narrow shadow
It is like the soviet D25TA, so super trash soft gun stats, and it doesn't even have 1400ms shell velocity
viral lodge
Also don’t need a credit premium, I want a good fun one to play, that is all that matters.
runic mango
TONY is is tho lmao. I make 50k-100k on a win.
frigid compass
@narrow shadow it aims faster than the IS-5 i guess
runic mango
Without medals.
narrow shadow
What an achievment
viral lodge
I make 60-120 a win in Löwe no medals.
So I don’t need a credit tank, also I got a ton of medals.
frigid compass
i somehow got lucky one time and got 4th on hall of fame in the 112-2 which prob will never happen again
narrow shadow
T26E4 can make good credits, but so can most other prems and they are much better, too
frigid compass
T26E4 is worse for credits than lowe because repair costs and the fact it needs to use more prammo
viral lodge
I only use prammo on Löwe for anti Tiger 2. Don’t need it otherwise.
runic mango
I dont find myself having a need to use pramo. Calibrated shells is good enough.
frigid compass
for tanks that dont get much from calibrated i dont use calibrated on but on tanks that gets quite a lot from it i use calibrated
only reason to use calibrated is if the pen difference is enough to make it worth it
viral lodge
Is there any tier 5 and 6 tanks worth buying? (Always available or sale only)
dapper panther
Tier5: KV-220 T
Tier6: Pz. IV S. ; Strv 74A2 ; Cromwell B
viral lodge
Got it, thanks, I’ll keep an eye out for those.
somber rampart
Strv 74A2 is a must buy
viral lodge
I haven’t seen it on sale yet since I came back to this game, I’ll keep a look out though.
frigid compass
@viral lodge Steam DLC
viral lodge
I’m on mobile.
frigid compass
last year it was sold on black friday now its just sold as Steam DLC that you can buy any time
viral lodge
How much is it?
frigid compass
$10 i think (my currency isnt USD so cant really tell)
fringe notch
There's a coupon for 95% off on the Strv bundle so it's only 50 cents. Should show up when you go to check out. I didn't like the tank but the camo certificates, premium time and boosters were handy.
scarlet nest
I don't know steam still gives cupon
cursive vigil
Well bad for me... There's no discount
clever ferry
id lupus relatively easy to play in
somber rampart
@clever ferry it’s a noob friendly tank
tight pewter
We need Romanian tanks
sand oyster
Hello
somber rampart
Goodbye
clever ferry
does drac have better accuracy than type 62
full kiln
why are people playing the T30 as a TD sniping??
misty rover
When will the Type 62 be available for sale again and for what price approximately?
junior turtle
Hey guys what should I choose, KV2 or KV1s
scenic dirge
Which line do I go for slow, heavy armour and strong gun tanks, e100 line, maus line or vk 72 line?
stone minnow
Mausn Haus
scarlet nest
Maus have very nice armor and pretty nice gun( but low dps)
E100 have nice armor but have many week posts need to anagle very many times
But the gun is crazy derpy gun
And....VK72 is not popular
Have some nice front armor but rear and side is very week, and gun is pretty same as E100
scenic dirge
whats the difference in the tier 8's?
delicate shale
You know talking about the E100 you can play the vulcan the same way you would with a maus and E100 certain angles work better for the turret and such
The entire front hull though is just a mixed bag...
Stood in front of about a quarter of an enemy team that consited of an SU 152(using the 122) whatever the german tier 7 TD is and a AT 8 i also think another tank joined in halfway but i dont know what it was
Bounced everyshot
scenic dirge
i will probably be playing more tier 8 than 10, so how do they compare to each other?
delicate shale
Tier 10 and is usally home to more skilled playerss while tier 8 is a sort of inbetween of skill and more layed back
I find myself having more fun in tier 8
If thats what you ment
delicate shale
Oh the vk 45 is...mediocre the vk 100.01p is considered alot of things but over all its a really good very well armoured tank, and with the tiger two armour buff its a great durable heavy
narrow shadow
Correction, VK100 is trash. T7 meds pen ur front and u have a huuuge 170mm strong cupola, so even soviet 122mm gunscan hit it. VK45A is a much better tank than that for sure
scarlet nest
Chieftain : did someone say bad cupola?
hollow belfry
@delicate shale VK 45.02 A is mediocre if you try to play it like a normal heavy. It's a medium hunter and a flanker. Apparently 97,5744% of the players who play it doesn't know that.
narrow shadow
The best line overall is the E100 line, it's the best out of the 3 at tiers 6,7,8,9 and arguably also 10.
scarlet nest
I go maus line cause it's special tank
But i strongly feel that maus is supporter tank
hollow belfry
@scarlet nest Maus is used to soak up damage while your team attacks. It's used to catch their attention and bounce shells
floral thunder
I hope Vulcan gets improved once WG sees its stats. which will most likely not happen because no one is playing. Except me😐 still trying to find the perfect setup for it but just fails time and time again. And I know its not me because I can do well in things like T71 and Blaze
narrow shadow
Vulcan is a balanced tank unlike most other T7 premium tanks.
floral thunder
@narrow shadow ah yes lets make a HEAVY tank with armor that is niel useless even when you sidescrape.
But gotta say has really good view range and camo for what it is but a bit of armor and maybe 2° more of gun depression would go along way.
narrow shadow
What did you expect? Another Dracula, Helsing or Smasher?? It still has some very nice perks to it, and is much stronger than many T7 tanks despite everything bad about it
floral thunder
Never said I wanted the thing to be an op mistake on wg part
sly hedge
Guys does anyone notices that when you aim at a Sherman firefly the red indicators appears outside the tank ??
narrow shadow
Well then why do you complain? It is not the best, but it is definitely balanced in context of other T7 tanks
shut finch
That British KV2 is called the Bishop. Because of the limited gun elevation, the range was limited. This caused a few problems and was eventually replaced by the American M7 Priest and the Canadian Sexton (Essentially an M7 with Canadian modifications). Around 100 or 150 were built.
I think it had a 10.5cm gun
elfin edge
please. only true kv2 is made of stalinium
hollow moth
This Vulcan is as OP as Smasher, o can't play with my panther anymore
Well I never liked that panther
But now it's hard use T23E3, Rudy and other tier 7 premium tanks
Bruh
scarlet nest
Well it's not that OP as i think
Casue it have massive Front armor
But other armrors are just meh
And the gun- 10sec 280+dmg?
It's pretty long to reload, fast reload medium will have chance to fight with
And theres some weekspot not discovered
Afther get use to it i won't be problem
hollow moth
Ye looks easy when talk, but it's like Tiger P, massive front armor for his level but weak sides
At least Tiger P have too much weak spots
But Vulcan have only vulnerable sides
Gun is average for a heavy tier 7 in my opinion
But that frontal armor need some weak spots
While there is no a nerf, i still thinking it's another pay to win tank, like smasher, like some other boys what are a bit op
scarlet nest
Here's some weekspot but it's not facing tho
And the front armor is like 170+mm so...
With promo any Heavy will pen it
And Tiger(p) , Tiger, T29 , amx M4can pen from front
And IS, KV-3 , Black prince , will pen with promo ammo
This is just guessed by stats so it could be different
So what i want to say
It's great tank but not OP line
---All i think is this tank is Anti medium
elfin orbit
rigid thunder
max roll should be 438
scenic dirge
Best gun for vk 36.01 h?
hard lagoon
Whatever you think is best
rigid thunder
the 88
plucky rain
88 L56 better than the 7.5cm waffle
hollow moth
@scarlet nest if i were a vulcan i never would try an angle
Because there is no weak spot on the front
So
With team, in the front line and bla bla bla, there is no flanking players
narrow shadow
I like the 7.5cm waffle better tbh. For that 221 APCR pen
rough bolt
how much gold is the games com camo on the tiger 1?
limber dawn
which tank is best to buy with gold? PZ V/IV, Dicker Max or Löwe
solid gate
Löwe for sure in my opinion
limber dawn
I have than a long way to go i have now 910 gold
solid gate
I think the Dicker Max is just a somewhat better Emile
limber dawn
If i understan you @solid gate is Dicker max a Emile to but than other tier
solid gate
When I played it that's what I thought
plucky rain
D Max is a Tier 6 Emil with weaker armour
good alpha for it's tier and has the 15 degrees of gun depression
scenic gulch
sui100y woth c:?
regal zealot
I wish I can spend some money on the Edelweiss... that tank just looks so good
valid lodge
Does the overlap on the Vulcans side plates have double the spaced armor?
robust dagger
@ember swan Still a License Tank from Sega.
sage grotto
Drac was 20k last year @runic mango
runic mango
In not allowed to express my thoughts, so i shall remain quiet.
hollow notch
I'm gonna guess 15k gold for a drac and helsing bundle this year
simple lance
That’d be too cheap
Both are much more valuable than the WZ 112-2 I just picked up and that was 12.5k
25k minimum for both in a bundle is my guess. They’ll have to make it expensive because both are tier breaking in many ways
thick trout
I think drac and helsing wont come back for Halloween this year, they will go in the winter auctions again (because WG know people will pay stupid prices for a tier 7)
ebon tundra
WG should rework some colectortanks :
-Giving some their 2nd gun back ( the M2 medium needs it's risky howitzer the Sfl. IVc its 8.8 flak for the gun movement,the P38 na it's no pen machine gun etc...)
- some tanks Just need their HE back (pz IV A,Großtaktor)
- It is awesome , that the M3 Lee and the D.W 2 have a 160 alpha but they are nearly the only Tanks with that Alpha at that Tier .
-Tanks need their shells in the Magazine Back . The T46 fir example was loved for his tier 5 auto canon and now this Thing has only 2 shells instead of 6.
I know they want to provent skilled players to go Back to tier 1-4 and recking all the newbies , but a better matchmaker would fix thist problem too and we could have those fun tanks back.
In World of Tanks PC Low Tier Battles are balanced somehow. If it's possible in PC it should be possible in blitz too !
thick trout
How would a better matchmaker stop people sealclubbing at tier 1-4? The idea is that the tanks arent fun for players who shouldnt be playing them. If they were fun them you would just get the huge issue of sealclubbing back again.
ebon tundra
@thick trout Sending newbies with other newbies into Battles and more skilled players with other more skilled players into battles .
livid yacht
You mean skill based mm ?
Because that will never happen
ebon tundra
In PC they got it balanced somehow
@thick trout why should those tanks even exist If they shouldn't make fun ?
livid yacht
If a new guy get rekt by a player with thousands of battles that's not that fun for him
ebon tundra
So ?
That's still normal for newbies today . There are always players who are reking new players. Changing colector Tanks wouldn't change anything at that .
livid yacht
You mean changing ?
Well I sold all my collectors and bought 3 T8 prems
ebon tundra
Well I kept mine and I want , that they are making fun !
Before Update 5.5 the low tiers battles were fine in my opinion.
hollow notch
The low tiers are now insanely boring. All of the tanks are the same
They do not prepare the noobs for the higher tier.
ebon tundra
WG should add generally more guns to Tanks of tiers 1-7.
ebon tundra
Many Tanks only have 1 Cannon and less gamestyles. With more cannons / guns Tanks can be played more different. I realy want my 8.8 cm flak in the sfl. IVc Back .
runic mango
I really want the secondary guns on tanks to work
Like the GC has a HE cannon on its front
minor mica
Is the T95 good to go for ?
minor mica
Yea I plan on going for that one too once I get the T95
Isn’t the turret for the T30 like the T34
crude gorge
yeah, except that the rear of the turret isn't as strong as the t34 cause t34 has a 203 mm plate which protects the rear of its turret
scenic dirge
best gun for kv-1s?
crude gorge
the 122mm
unkempt canyon
ISU122S should be a collectors
high torrent
m60 should be too
robust python
rigid thunder
cool
crude gorge
cool
plucky summit
People complaining about a price lol just don’t buy it 👀
thick trout
@ebon tundra So basically what you want is to sealclub. The idea of 5.5 was stop people like you. Apparently it has worked, and so not change is needed
crude gorge
5.5 is good, it make my storage drive more healthy
plucky rain
My new premium idea
plucky summit
False
crude gorge
great now put a 183 gun on the sp 1 c
regal zealot
Make a tech tree out of parts procured from researched tanks; you can only grind and unlock them for use after researching relevant parts from other tanks of other nations. Let’s say a T-34-85 hull with an E8 turret retrofitted with an 8.8cm L/44 of the Vk 30.01 P just for example. You need to grind all three tanks and its relevant modules to unlock purchase of said tank.
plucky summit
R35 turret on Maus hull
raven jacinth
@lone crane I main Samus, but I don't play Melee anymore xd
lone crane
Nice
raven jacinth
@plucky summit T-22 Turret with Maus hull 🤔
plucky summit
But R35 so smol 😂
regal zealot
Maus engine and IS-4 hull and turret, BL-10 gun
1750hp going through 60t worth of tank
Makes it a proper heavium
solid gate
add the MBT 70 as a tier 10, KPZ 70 suck so add MBT 70 as tier 10
solid gate
@solid gate MBT 70 and Kpz 70 is the same tank. Just different name for two countries.
The Kpz really need a HE buff. Its quite annoying to have your HE have lower roll than your AP.
My tier X premium idea: M60-2000 heavy tank: M60 hull and M1 Abrams turret
I want a leo 1 with the 120mm gun lol.
undone ravine
regal zealot
@solid gate XM1?
regal zealot
Get the 122mm ASAP, then play it as a peekaboom tank, shoot, then pull back into cover as quickly as you can. You are fast, but you really lack any form of armor for a heavy. @junior turtle
crude gorge
free exp to the 122mm
naive jolt
Yall have tips for using an Su 152?
I use the default gun and ofc neither a win or a loss, my credits go downhill
Around -20k and i get 10 - 20k when i get a good win
Is it my ammo usage or consumables?
And i would appreciate sum tips on how to not get ganged up on the su 152 too
plucky rain
just use the stock gun and snipe from far or from a bush
HE is main ammo, AP is when a target cannot he HEed, use HEAT for heavy tanks if AP doesn't work
SU 152 has no armour so save ur hp at all cost
naive jolt
Thanks for the tip
Also meanwhile
Dont worry i still have 200k and with that imma do better
junior turtle
@regal zealot thx
naive jolt
Good battles but very low profit, how 2 increase?
crude gorge
it's a tech tree tank
eager pine
Just how it is. Tier 8 and up tech tree tanks don’t make many credits
eager pine
Your mum is premium
eager pine
Ummm you drive into the bush
limpid ether
@crude gorge is 20 (without camo and camo net) good ENOUGH?
limpid ether
@eager pine ok
limpid ether
@crude gorge how about 32(plus camo no camo net)?
crude gorge
yeah fair enough
limpid ether
@crude gorge ok thanks
crude gorge
light tanks could still detect you if they get close enough though
limpid ether
@crude gorge yes im aware though
crude gorge
are you using a sturer emil?
crude gorge
huh ok, don't camp with that tank though, you are a medium not a td
your job should be something like detecting enemies, 2nd line supporters
limpid ether
@crude gorge yeah i have never camped since i got this tank xd i always die
Just going to try thisin my Su-85
crude gorge
heh it isn't very good tbh, it is pretty average
apart from the 10 degrees of gun depression
which is very nice for a german tank
limpid ether
@crude gorge thats my favorite part
crude gorge
i still prefers the pz v/iv over that though
limpid ether
@crude gorge yeah i just got this from crates still gives me 10k credits even after death in 160 dmg
Well i tried helping but a kv2 shoed up
naive jolt
I have a t23e3 which is a premium tho, should i use it?
crude gorge
yeah btw, you don't have to ping me every message
limpid ether
@naive jolt maybe i mean by stats its decent
Thats what i think
Anyways Good Luck all!
crude gorge
t23e3 has a great dpm
limpid ether
@naive jolt You too comrade Stain
naive jolt
Yeah i use the rammer for it @crude gorge
limpid ether
*Stalin
naive jolt
Gud dpm penetration baddd
crude gorge
how much pen?
naive jolt
160 ap 208 apcr
naive jolt
Ik but i go for a machinegunning tactic, in which i just gun my enemies
limpid ether
Oof i realized my camo in SU-85B is 54(with camo net but no Camo)
frigid compass
T20 has better APCR than the Tiger P
naive jolt
And when i need to take down a heavy i need to get as close as ever sometime
crude gorge
t20 has 243 mm of apcr pen
frigid compass
tiger p has 237
crude gorge
t20 has a huge amount of apcr pen
naive jolt
Yeah around 245 right?
crude gorge
the next one on the line is also the same with the top gun, 268 of apcr pen
yeah it has a lot, t20 has bad ap pen but very good apcr pen for its tier
naive jolt
I got 4k for profit but i got higher than that when using prem acc and boosters
for now i dont have those 2 things but when i do i rain in credits
crude gorge
if you do have the game on mobile, watch the ads to get gold, you could get 50 golds everyday so you could save that up and buy a tier 8 premium which makes you a lot of credits
like the lowe and the t34 for example, those 2 makes a lot of credits and you better start saving for that cause black friday is gonna happen soon
naive jolt
Hmmm
crude gorge
like in a month or so
naive jolt
I mean they still have 250 + 250 gs for 50pesos =around 1 dollar, i would be a wallet warrior for a short period for that to happen
Sure, imma try
crude gorge
ok
stoic dawn
does tier 3 still hv HE or is it gone?
frigid compass
only on a select few vehicles such as BT-7 Arty
stoic dawn
k thx
solid gate
What's the best path to follow on the American techtree
thick trout
the USSR one
The lights is probably the best line up to tier 8 if you arent looking for high tiers, and the heavies are all decent enough tanks with the new consumables
solid gate
Ok cheers
outer spruce
Euro or tiger one
thick trout
Tiger 1 then rush to the tiger 2 to play it before it gets nerfed @neat nimbus
solid gate
@solid gate what doesn’t make sense is the KPZ 70 was meant as a successor to the leopard 1 but is in tier 9
unkempt canyon
The ISU122S need to be a collectors and a buff
thick trout
Oh no i bought a premium thats a stock isu at tier 7 and it doesnt work the same as the isu, please it must need a buff
lyric oriole
Lol why does ISU-122s need to be a collectors, how can you reasonably justify that
outer spruce
WZ-120-1F FG need an armor and a dpm buff
solid gate
@outer spruce stop trolling right here
outer spruce
sure 😉
unkempt canyon
The ISU122S should be a collector do 👍 for yes and 👎 for no
Or at least a damage buff
solid gate
Nice you do realize we can’t reach here unless
thick trout
@unkempt canyon It is literally an SU152 with the 122 but on a better chassis. If anything it needs a nerf 🤦
ebon tundra
R1B and other Youtubers uploaded a viedeo in wich they Show us what's coming this Halloween !
long ether
more fake tanks.... just what we needed...
ebon tundra
But he is looking awesome
long ether
they might look awesome, but ruin the game
ebon tundra
They are but Not every Fantasy Tank must be OP
@solid gate not realy . China isn't good in doing new Things ...
long ether
really? from that picture you can already tell that you can only shoot the lower plate on that thing, it doesn't even have a turret hatch and the whole hull is angled
just wait.... its gonna be an IS-3 in tier 7
ebon tundra
He has A 13.2 sec reload
thick trout
@long ether "Oh no its going to be super OP i won't able to pen it anywhere"
From thr looks of the video its going to be a tier 8 med. A generic 122 with a bit longer reload, I would guess the hull will be pennable by most things and the turret will probably be fairly strong.
The issue is, by looking at ONE PICTURE, you have no idea how good/bad the tank will be. You can look atbthe video and think carefully, or you can just assume its going to be super op and game breaking (like what people thought about the 252u)
What told you that from the video?
long ether
@thick trout what told you that its gonna be a tier 8 med with a 122mm gun ?
thick trout
From the looks of the gun amd the damage it is most likely to be a 122. It seems to be able to jump a fair way on faust and go fairly fast so i guess a med. From that, a fastish tier 7 med with a 13 sec reload for a 122 would be stupid so i guess tier 8.
It is all speculation, but its based on stuff from the video not just "oh no it will be op"
plucky summit
The top one looks like the hidden
Also take note most if not all of the fantasy tanks are in tier 7
thick trout
A lot of them are but we all know WGs attitude of making stuff as expensive as possible 🤷
flint linden
What do you guys think is the best out of the new 7500 t7 tanks?. Lupis looks cool
thick trout
It could be a 110mm gun like the vulcans on a tier 7 heavium but i would say its more likely it will be a med.
flint linden
I wanna get 2 for the collection
Where can we see their stats
What would be second choice ?
plucky summit
blitz hangar usually, not sure if it's out yet
flint linden
Do i get to see stats if i buy em? Has no one bought them yet or how does this work
plucky summit
they're not out yet
twilit wigeon
https://blitzhangar.com/en
you can see the tanks stats here
flint linden
Lol,, i thought they were,, mustve missed the fine print
How do those offers work then?
thick trout
The new tanks stats arent out yet (from the video)
The Valkyrie tanks have been out for ages
twilit wigeon
^
flint linden
So these tanks are yet to be updated into the game?
twilit wigeon
The new tanks of course dont have stats they were only announced today
No more like WG havent given any stats for them yet
flint linden
Why dont the clearly state that or am i missing something obvious
thick trout
The tanks on sale now like the vulcan, lupus etc are all on sale now and available
twilit wigeon
and all their stats can be seen already on sites like Blitzhangar
flint linden
Damn ,, who was i talking to then?
twilit wigeon
no clue
flint linden
Im not too familiar about everything in the game
So i disregard what chickenman said? And procede to blitzhangar for my information i was looking for regarding the new tanks that i could possibly buy and immediately use ingame?
Lol
twilit wigeon
if you mean the store offer tanks(ie Lupus, Nameless, Edlwiess etc etc)
yes
flint linden
Thank you
twilit wigeon
np 👌
flint linden
Would the lupus be considered one of the best t7 heavies?
flint linden
I bought a lowe some time ago and its a slow elephant that soaks up damage if used properly,, i dont want another sponge,, are these 2 similiar
I like using the leoard, ,
T5 leopard
twilit wigeon
Lupus is more of a poke a ridge and fire tank
Leopard and Lupus are two completely different playstyles
one's a fast maneuverable light tank with a magazine and the other is a brawling heavy tank
flint linden
I get that,, but i dont wan another lowe
twilit wigeon
you wont
bc one the Lupus is a tier lower
also bc it doesnt have the amazing credit coefficient of Löwe
also you wouldnt be facing as many high pen guns(unless you get bottom tiered)
flint linden
Fair enough,,
What would be the closest to the leopard ,, im good at scouting and picking off busy enemies,, i just get the lupus for the looks
twilit wigeon
no
thick trout
Be supportive but dont camp. Try and use your depression and mobility as much as you can
elfin edge
any suggestions for t57 heavy?
im doing alright in it so far but was looking for tips
foggy plaza
I suggest you trade your T57 for a 50b
scarlet nest
I like my T57 tho
More troll armor
simple lance
Early impressions are that the T-34-3 is a blast to play and far better deal than what’s been coming down the pipe lately for T8 premium tanks. I wasn’t sure aim time could be that impactful but alas, it is. If the reload was 3 seconds shorter or so, we’d be talking about a top of the tier performer. As it is...solid tank that I think I’m gonna enjoy.
clever ferry
does lupus have easy to use armor, or do i have to try sidescraping and angling all the time
tulip sail
From fighting it it's got good armour
regal zealot
@flint linden the closest to the Leopard in terms of play style would be the MT-25 with either the 45mm autocannon or the 57mm autoloader.
plucky rain
nah, 57mm, quick fire the 4 rounds × 90 dmg then run. Whole clip is 360 dmg
45mm has 8 rounds for only 55 dmg, tho higher dpm but I won't risk exposing myself for too long
regal zealot
45mm has 55dmg per shot @plucky rain
plucky rain
Especially when this is looking at ur MT 25 @regal zealot
regal zealot
That’s true. Both are good guns, tho I prefer the 57mm
plucky rain
Yup. 57mm is my choice. 45mm has stinky pen
the single shot is worse, might as well play VK 28.01 for that
regal zealot
100mm of pen, was it?
ancient patrol
Imagine wasting free xp for tier 6
eager pine
Hmmm Pz58
empty lake
It's been more than 2 years~
Bring T49 ATM bacc ^^
spark basin
🇳 🇴
empty lake
🇾 🇪 🇸
outer spruce
T49A event
Y E S
rancid mauve
I’d rather have KeNi-Otsu
somber rampart
I can't wait for the new Halloween tanks
The new warpaint Dracula and the Helsing
dusky stone
I’m reserving my excitement/anger for the time being. Want to know the full details first.
somber rampart
There is a new Dracula not the warpaint one
Seems to have a high alpha gun and good speed
dusky stone
New Dracula starts sweating
I did see a new tank but not a new Dracula in meadsys video. Hopefully it’s just a camo lol.
frigid compass
i dont get why people think the pike nose tank look like a 252u
the only thing even resembling a 252u is pike nose but the pike nose doesn't look like the 252u's pike nose at all
solid gate
OK lmao
crude gorge
ok
dull current
hushed shadow
Are those two different tanks or just one tank with different looks?
dull current
2 skins
merry viper
would be nice if you could preview the tanks on the offers tab, like its always been
frigid compass
yeah.
lean marsh
hollow moth
I need the Halloween Stug, it's the most beautiful tier 5 of the game
dapper panther
how about chi nu kai, kv1 and angry connor?
hollow moth
Chi nu isn't so beautiful, KV-1 isn't the favorite of people anymore and angry connor is as rare as T28 mod. 1940
frigid compass
if my ads for gold doesnt break for once i might restore my T28 Mod 1940 for memes
its a paper boat
dapper panther
i mean, design wise
scarlet nest
Tier 4 btw
frigid compass
nice boat
scarlet nest
But we have king
frigid compass
Ruski Boat > Tea Boat
dapper panther
how about german boat (pz slf 4c) ?
gray harbor
If anyone is watching and remembers the Update livestream for the new tech tree a while back, I - The Tank Commander - posted a big update recommendation for the game. I will try to find it and share the link because I still get notifications that people like the comment I posted.
Okay everyone, here is the link to the livestream for Update 6.3
https://youtu.be/ijIs_CcJxWU
I hope when you read my comment - which is like right at the top of the comments section - you too will agree with at least some of the points I put forth. Good luck and ROLL OUT TANKERS!!!! O7
neon comet
@grand linden you have to run it with the “stock” gun. The top gun is an unfortunate combination of poor accuracy and low pen
But yes, it is fairly balanced
limpid mauve
Wargamming has a policy where they won’t nerf gold tanks only buff them
stoic dawn
yeah but then theres the possibility of them turning these prems into collectors (update 5.5) and 'balance them'
limpid mauve
True
wary saffron
Opinions on VK 72.01 K? I have it and I love it, but I was wondering what people think of it compared to other heavies or their own play style
My personal opinion is that it's a beast armor-wise, balanced by the worst DPM but probably greatest effective DPM. Only thing I dislike is the repair cost factor, being around 2x higher than any other similar (superheavy) vehicle
I think the VK 72.01 K and WZ-113 deserve to get a lower repair factor. They stand at 12 and 11.17 repair cost factor, while all the other heavy tanks stand at 5-6. Mediums and lights are similar, with around 5-6 repair cost factor. Highest repair cost factors are on tank destroyers, from around 7 to 8.
Now, I understand that tank destroyers are more expensive to repair, as they're supposed to be behind heavies and others, taking less damage. But why do the VK and WZ have the highest repair cost factors? Their role is to push and hold strategic positions, soak up damage etc. But the fact that they cost so much to repair encourages players to stay at the back.
Now don't get me wrong, I still manage to push and bounce shots in the VK as it's the most armored heavy imo, but the WZ? I personally never tried it but I feel like WZ-113 players lose a poopload of credits on a defeat/destroyed vehicle.
hushed shadow
@gray harbor 2) Nah KV2 had very good HE before. Was able to pen many tanks with HE and one shot them. A buff would be too much.
3) WG have said that maps aren’t big enough for Japanese heavies to be added.
10) I would prefer having more tanks but it’d be better to have fewer lower tiers leading to more higher tiers on the same tech tree. Would be faster for grinds that way as you don’t need to grind lower tier tanks again when there’s a new line to grind
dusky stone
@gray harbor couldn’t you post the comment here via a screenshot?
gray harbor
I will attempt to do that. Not sure if it’ll fit in the shot though @dusky stone just sayin’
grand linden
It would be really nice to see more diversity of tanks escpically in the lower tiers
And tier 10
Personally I would like more tier 5 and 6s
grand linden
Idc what they do I just want more balanced tanks in the game
At I play tier 5 because no broken tanks have been added there yet
wise moth
@wary saffron I'm of the opinion that the VK 72 is the worst tier 10 heavy. The armor is useless against HEAT, the rear mounted turret kills the ability to angle around corners/hull down, the mobility is awful, and the gun just simply can't kill anything fast enough to have an effect on the battle
grand linden
The wz113 is one of the better tanks so it's fine
bright folio
I think that the VK 72's only advantage is an unorthodox armor profile, which really doesn't help against tier 10.
thick trout
The vk72 would be good if it didnt have the weakspots on the sides of the hull. Unfortunately its kinda essential to the design, but buffing them to be bouncy would make it good.
lyric oriole
VK 72 is a better grille IMO even though it has worse top speed it basically does everything else the same or better, including surviving
narrow shadow
It doesn't have the DPM to be a grille
lyric oriole
No, but it has armor, it's gun traverses slower which negates dispersion on the move, it has better HE, Identical HEAT, better view range, more gun depression, and just like Grille a rear mounted turret.
DPM hardly matters when survivability is low enough like the grille
solid gate
Dpm isn’t everything
wise moth
DPM might not be everything, but there's something to be said about a 1000 DPM difference. And also, the Grille has mobility that the VK 72 simply doesn't
lyric oriole
But it doesn't have the camo alongside it, even with a camo net it falls behind some mediums in the tier
bright folio
The grille's gun is so much better than that of the VK 72 that it isn't even a question. The Grille is also massively more mobile, and has a completely different playstyle.
wary saffron
Honestly, the side poops on the VK aren't as bad imo. Wot PC has dope side armor but really bad lower plate; this game's VK has the best front armor but bad sides. I'd rather stick with that strong frontal armor than another side scraper - if I actually wanted a side scraper I'd just use Maus/E100/ISx/any other tank
tribal ledge
Should I get my Doom Toaster Back?
solid gate
Idk. Maybe ppl haven't heard of HEAT before... or aiming.
tribal ledge
I don't care bout the bad armour
solid gate
I mean you just peek and shoot reload
somber rampart
I'm sure the flak toaster has no HEAT rounds
bright folio
I checked blitzhangar and it's got APCR as prammo.
frigid compass
HEAT is just worse APCR that trades being able to pen through spaced armor effectively and normalization for more pen boost with CS
bright folio
It's almost hilarious that if the toaster is trading shot for shot, you can use your overkill AP and trade with most(though not all) of t5 tanks effectively.
onyx coral
So where did we land? Is the Vulcan a hero or zero?
tulip sail
It's neighborhood spider man
onyx coral
oh yeah? I thought the armor is bad?
robust dagger
Its the Vulcan Procus because of the space armor. :x Idk why WG add the wrong name. <.<
frigid compass
the Vulcan Armor is pretty good on paper
wont stand against SU-152 HEAT frontally but still good
bright folio
Just don't hit the weird turret thing on the front and SU-152 heat will be fine.
somber rampart
Vulcan is just a beefed-up Spic
onyx coral
Let me rephrase.. how many of you wish you had a vulcan?
somber rampart
Well, does it require skill?
frigid compass
im fine with my tiger p @onyx coral
somber rampart
I'll be fine with my strv 74a2.
bright folio
I'm good with my StuG 3.
frigid compass
imagine firing AP in a SU-152 against a SU-152 and bouncing like some guy i met a few battles ago
somber rampart
I'll be alright with my Kv2.
frigid compass
i like how the SU-152 can HE pen the Tiger 1's side
solid gate
I’m sorry heat pens through spaced Armor more effectively?
frigid compass
HEAT loses more pen against spaced though
bright folio
It's effective at penetrating the spaced armor itself, just not the tank's armor afterwards.
frigid compass
^^
the penetrating jet loses penetration power because it has to travel quite a bit before hitting the main armor
solid gate
I’m reading uptop though
onyx coral
so... everyone can live without it... its no t-22 or IS3D
frigid compass
the only reason SU-152 HEAT wouldnt really have a problem against Vulcan's spaced is because the spaced isnt that far between the main armor itself and 152 HEAT has 275 pen with CS
bright folio
That sounds about right. Hit the front screens next to the mini-turret, and you should go through with 152mm heat.
frigid compass
yeah
plucky summit
We need a T56 GMC 😂
thin belfry
when will E-25 come up on sale again?
somber rampart
No one knows
eager pine
It just went on sale like 2 months ago
somber rampart
I got the E-25 like a year ago
spark gate
Ok I’ve had enough of this ridiculousness , what is with people doing HORRIBLE in the rhm? I don’t understand it’s not that hard to do well in it. The amount of players I’ve seen bounce easy shots, miss easy shots, play WAY too aggressive, playing WAY to passive, using HE or AP at the wrong time. I just don’t understand what the deal is. I legit encountered SO MANY HORRIBLE RHM PLAYERS today it’s not even funny. I witnessed a full health rhm throw the game to a 150 health is3. DUDE, USE HE, PLEASE.
I’m honestly just confused and I need answers.
thin belfry
@eager pine for how much did it sell?
clever ferry
you mind teaching me how to play rhm?
raven jacinth
"They see me rollin' they hatin'..."
clever ferry
also for some reason lots of tank are outlined orange for me and he don't deal as much dmg, even on meds
fossil violet
it's because you're using HE
bright folio
Doing poorly in the RHM isn't that surprising for a lot of players.
The borsig has low ap pen, rather bad mobility, -5mm effective armor, a long reload for a t8 152, and bad dispersion for a german td.
The camo is good, and the HEAT is fantastic, but the skill floor isn't low.
As for throwing a match against a low hp is-3, that's just a bad player who doesn't know about HE.
Or heat for that matter.
I've seen players run all AP, all HE, all prammo, it no longer surprises me.
clever ferry
are ppl supposed to use heat? i just run regular on most tanks and a few he shells if using a high pen td on low armor lights
wise moth
Usually depends on the tank. Some tanks are pretty reliant on prammo spam, and some hardly need it
But normally, I run a fair amount of prammo
empty bramble
What do you think, will the Halloween stug be a 50 wins giveaway?
valid lodge
I feel like the Panzer 58 is always in the shop or atleast the tank that appears the most in the shop.
valid lodge
Bought it, haven't played any of the valks yet
bright folio
I’m considering the lupus.
The Pz. 58 is always in the store with different bundles because wg wants people to buy the tank.
Wg made a balanced premium, and nobody wants it.
floral thunder
Vulcan is nice just don't know why the cheek plate on the hull is the same thickness as the sides when the same doesn't apply to the tiger p and other tanks.
bright folio
...because not all tanks need the same armor setup?
floral thunder
True but its still weird that they did
bright folio
The front and sides having the same armor isn’t shocking.
Not common by any means, but not shocking.
floral thunder
I meant the plate thats between the front and side
bright folio
The IS-like pike-nose ish thing it has?
floral thunder
bright folio
The Tiger P has that same thing, but smaller.
That’s basically part of the side and it makes sense to have it be as tough as the rest of the side.
floral thunder
bright folio
The Lttb might have something like it as well.
floral thunder
Lttb does have it, granted it doesn't sidescrape to do its job lol
bright folio
The Lttb is a pain to deal with hulldown.
foggy jasper
How do I stop bleeding credits in the ru
plucky summit
Get rid of everything like provisions, lay off on somewhat useless use of consumables, no prammo, that kinda deal, then there’s premium account and credit boosters, or just play really well
Not that I’m saying you’re not, some things are necessary to use in order to win or get a profit
regal zealot
^^^ also maximize your use of HESH, if provided the chance
rancid mauve
Actually the RU has a horrible credit coefficient. So you can take off all the things you want and still barely make a profit
86%. T-54 Ltwt has 76%....
solid gate
I just bought a leopard
outer spruce
Leopard 1, Leopard pt a or Leopard vk something
rigid thunder
vk 16.02
viral lodge
Is this worth spending $10 on gold?
rigid thunder
it's basically a worse kuro mori mine, so I would say it's not
frigid compass
well its only worse on side armor by 2mm lmao
tame jay
Can somebody tell me why wt auf pz IV is so good against T44's?
solid gate
If you want a nice looking tiger in tier VI then it's worth it.
tame jay
I got ammo rackracked by it like 6 times
solid gate
@tame jay because it is a tier IX TD shooting at tier VIII mediums.
frigid compass
Tiger 1 side armor is nice food for my SU-152 HE
viral lodge
Is the Tiger 131 fun to play? (I have yet to unlock tiger 1 (doing Churchill heavy line))
frigid compass
Tiger 131 is only worse than kuro a bit in effective hp/t by 6% and 2mm in side and back armor otherwise its credit coef is better
viral lodge
Does the stat difference show at all?
frigid compass
i dont have either so idk
viral lodge
I don’t mind spending $10 on this but I don’t want to buy it and never use it.
frigid compass
but side armor difference is meh 2mm is nothing
frigid compass
i dont have tiger 1 so idk
viral lodge
Same lol, and I’m about to skip it (via panther line) to tiger 2 so I won’t be playing it anytime soon.
I just remember having this prem as a recommended to get.
hot reef
Ive never played that tank
robust dagger
Krupp 38 is the Super Pershing/Mod 1 on this Tier ^^
viral lodge
How does the Tiger 131 fair in tier 6 compared to the Tiger 1 in tier 7?
still zinc
Tiger 131 Has less average penetration value [AP 145 APCR 195] than a fully upgraded Tiger 1 [AP 203 APCR 237] , worse power to weight ratio, worse DPM, dispersion at 100m and less side/rear armor (2mm, not actually noticeable but im just gonna leave it here)
A fully upgraded Tiger 1 has a longer aim time [5.7 S] and less gun depression [7] compared to tiger 131 [4.8 S] and [8] GD
frigid compass
because Tiger 1 has the L/71
quartz ruin
Instead of Tiger 131 why not VK 36.01 H? After latest buff it's good. What is the repair factor of Tiger 131, is it more expensive or cheaper than VK 36?
grand linden
Tiger 1 has more mobility rare of fire pen and dpm
@quartz ruin that is very tru epically with the buff to armour
quartz ruin
Some said now VK 36 is better than Kuro, like a Tiger 1 at tier 6.
grand linden
They would be right
Only down side is the turret and manetelet are still kinda weak
quartz ruin
I got a lot of bounces now. Before the buff usually I got bounce every now and then.
viral lodge
I do not have much problem killing the VK 36 even after the buff, if the Tiger 131 is worse then I’ll hold off for a better tank.
I’m not doing VK 36 and Tiger 1 because I’m going to the Tiger 2 via Panther.
I’d say my main problem is I so far do not like any heavies except my Löwe and my Churchill line (I’m on BP currently) I’m stuck on KV-1S for that line, halfway to ARL in BDR currently, and on M6 for American, none clicking. So that is why I’m looking for fun/good prem heavies.
plucky summit
@grand linden ok so only a few tier Vs were made collector tanks so tier V didn’t get really harmed in diversity
grand linden
Tier 6 was hit harder
plucky summit
By two tanks?
grand linden
T air enough
But the t150 is balanced and didn't need to be removed
It fit the kv line better than kv2
frigid compass
Black Prince is bad compared to Tiger P imo
plucky summit
There was an outlier in the KV lines, 3 heavies at tier 6, if you wanted to keep T-150, then you could’ve. KV-1->KV-2->KV-3->KV-4 fits and people loved KV-2
grand linden
Ppl luv kv2 but kv has nothing to do with the kv line
plucky summit
The name does
grand linden
The playstyle however...
frigid compass
the mobility is too much of a deal breaker for me with it's mediocre hull armor for a heavy that moves as slow as a turtle
plucky summit
Take note the 107mm the KV-2 has
frigid compass
the black prince is just meh
plucky summit
T-150 only ran that 107mm effectively, if you wanted diversity, KV-2 has more guns in choice
plucky summit
You’re arguing for one tank vs the other tho
No point for 1 on 1, if diversity is your goal, then KV-2 fits it well
grand linden
Kv2 one shot ting everyone not thanks
plucky summit
The KV-2 punishes bad players
grand linden
And rewards bad players also
plucky summit
Balanced.
viral lodge
BP is better than Tiger P from what I’ve seen (as a BP player)
grand linden
Yea imagine you're in a 60%wr players perspective and you lose a perfect 1v3 because some "balanced tank" takes all your hp away
If the kv only had 107mm then fair enough
plucky summit
If I had skills to get to 60% WR then I wouldn’t show my weak spots -_-
viral lodge
I would be happy is KV2 was removed
grand linden
Wame
viral lodge
That type of damage should not be able to join a Tier 5 match
grand linden
Kv gotta go no skill driving
plucky summit
I don’t think you realize what happens after a KV-2 fires
viral lodge
My main problem is how the KV2 can derp most tier 5s
The reload, I know, but, the derp in a team fight...
plucky summit
Potentially on both teams
viral lodge
KV2 is a team fight tank
Sucks solo, but either way, the type of damage it dishes out is dumb as hell for tier 5.
plucky summit
Why can’t people just hide from it if they’re too lightly armored to take a shot?
frigid compass
@viral lodge laughs in SU-152 joining a tier 6 match and basically turning every light tank there into toast with full HE pen
viral lodge
Su-152 is a tier 7 not 6
frigid compass
also Tiger P in my experience is better than BP i just cant stand the slow speed on big maps
solid gate
it's not even funny tho when they have less hp than your AP alpha, firing HE is not worth the risk
viral lodge
Speed worse, armor is better on BP
frigid compass
KV-2 is a tier 6 not tier 5 so dont complain about it joining downtiers dumb dumb
plucky summit
5.5 was actually to narrow diversity in tiers I-VI, so new players could keep track of tanks better
frigid compass
BP has its hull as an entire weakspot while Tiger P only has cupola and lfp
viral lodge
Do you not side scrape??
solid gate
a tank that survived that update is my ke-ho, after the buff it shines like before
plucky summit
@solid gate I love fighting a nub KV-2 who uses HE on your 500 HP tank and splashes 😂
frigid compass
Tiger P can sidescrape also if you needed it to
plucky summit
Both tanks have weakspots, not sure what you’re arguing
frigid compass
but most of the times not really since the armor can stand in the open for the entire battle in my experience
viral lodge
I never see tiger P side scrape ¯_(ツ)_/¯
frigid compass
because its armor can stand the beating most of the times
viral lodge
I can always pen the front of the Tiger p
frigid compass
i can also pen the front of black prince all day
viral lodge
Never not penned unless they are hull down
BP is a side scrape only tank, or hull down
plucky summit
Ok, both are pennable in hull, now it takes to the rest of the stats
solid gate
Tiger p has paper lower plate, with a sniping tank you can easily take one out
i could pen it even with the m41 AP
frigid compass
BP has a paper hull against anything with pen
plucky summit
If it were to come to a 1v1 I’d believe the BP would win
viral lodge
Only if you don’t side scrape, other wise it takes a lot of pen to get through
viral lodge
Well I’m a 55-56% so I’m mid tier skill wise
plucky summit
I sidescrape in my BP, never wanted to with the Tiger P
viral lodge
And not side scrapping in a BP is like driving a light tank half speed
frigid compass
i got 60.06 WR rn working to improve it
viral lodge
The Churchill line up to BP is all side scrape heavy
If you don’t you’re playing the line wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯
frigid compass
My Tiger P stats
solid gate
i had to fight a lot of BPs in my fv201 a45, they mostly win the fight because of the better hull armor and because 171 pen is not too much against an angled BP
plucky summit
BP has 171 pen lol
solid gate
yep same gun
viral lodge
BP is really an anti medium and light and lighter heavies.
Not meant to fight the really heavy ones.
plucky summit
Well BP can have 1670 HP if I’m correct?
frigid compass
BP front armor has no chance against the Tiger P's 203 pen
viral lodge
Maybe, I use both sandbag things but use the armor buff equipment
plucky summit
@frigid compass doesn’t matter when it’s out-DPM’d
frigid compass
doesnt matter when the BP bounces 5 of his shots on me while i pen all of them
viral lodge
And who relies on BP front armour??
plucky summit
I wouldn’t have
frigid compass
never had 1 problem fighting a BP in my Tiger P
plucky summit
Then I’ll give you one
viral lodge
And vice Versa for me
solid gate
lol ofc u got the 88mm with 203 pen
plucky summit
I’ve played both tanks, and BP is favorable for me
frigid compass
i played both tanks and i'd take the Tiger P over a BP
viral lodge
Play style I guess, I mean I side scrape non stop, and from what I’ve read you don’t side scrape even in BP.
frigid compass
the DPM isnt worth the sacrifice for worse armor and worse mobility
viral lodge
If you don’t side scrape in Bp of course it would suck
plucky summit
I don’t think armor matters with a clear weak spot then, kinda like a VK 100 in the open, just shoot the weak spot
frigid compass
people aiming for my cupola in the tiger p often misses and hits the 235mm thick mantlet+backplate armor
grand linden
I prefer prince over tiger 2
viral lodge
Also I can say as someone who plays BP a lot, I never show my frontal armor, ever.
grand linden
Not tier 2 tiger p
frigid compass
over tiger 2?! bruh bp cant even pen the tiger 2 using prammo
grand linden
The tiger p I mean
viral lodge
BP is one of the best (maybe the best) tier 7 heavies
plucky summit
Look, you’re fighting bad players if they miss that much xD
grand linden
Chicken is right
plucky summit
I’ll give you one heckuva ride against a BP
frigid compass
@viral lodge how many battles you got in the BP
plucky summit
I’ve enjoyed both
I found BP very capable, but Tiger P demanding in position, only exploitable up close or in a special spot
I’d rather get tracked by a Tiger P than a BP, nobody wants to get picked down by the high ROF of BP
I don’t see the intimidation factor of tiger
frigid compass
i dont see the intimidation of a BP either
rancid mauve
I find the BP just plain fun. Troll armour, insane DPM, gun depression.
frigid compass
Tiger P is easier to use imo due to its mobility and armor being more effective in more situations
plucky summit
The intimidation is the drill of a BP’s gun
frigid compass
and the gun having real nice pen
rancid mauve
True that
frigid compass
im more intimidated by an ARL-44 than a BP in the tiger p
ARL-44 punches through the Tiger P's 200mm plate like butter
plucky summit
Tiger P has weakspots to shoot, I know BP does, but it doesn’t matter in armor if both are easy to pen
frigid compass
Tiger P is harder to pen since you need to aim more than just aim hull on a BP
plucky summit
It doesn’t take much to aim
frigid compass
my enemies says otherwise when they cant pen me most of the times
plucky summit
Then have fun punishing nubs
frigid compass
i never seen a BP do that good in battle
plucky summit
The permatrack ability in BP really tickles my heart
I never often see a tiger P do that good in battle
narrow shadow
BP is much more positional tank, Tiger P requires no brain to play, only push
In 1v1 brawl, Tiger P has no chance
The only problem I see with BP is when sidescraping point blank, there is autopen in tracks, otherwise the armour is even more troll than Tiger P thanks to the autobounce plate and much better turret
viral lodge
Only time I have problems with Tiger P is when they have a rock/hull to hull down on and I have no cover to side scrape nicely on, I still win, it just hurts more
narrow shadow
You will never ever beat a competent BP player in a 1v1 brawl with Tiger P
calm inlet
what about a competent Tiger P player who uses their alpha to their advantage?
viral lodge
Only way that would happen is if the Tiger P is far enough away that they can retreat reliably after shooting, BP operate mid to close so they normally can beat a slightly higher alpha.
neon comet
The problem with the BP is it is so slow it can’t necessarily dictate the pace of the engagement. Yes it can punish an opponent who attempts to 1v1 it at close range, but if you face a competent player who doesn’t get baited into a dpm trade, you are not necessarily going to have it easy. It is difficult to rush an opponent when your tank is one of the slowest in the game. Also, you have a pretty low penetration gun to contend with as well, which will really hurt your dpm
plucky summit
Unless weak spots are hit but I see that point
clever ferry
what is alpha
plucky summit
I figured it was the highest damage a gun could deal, but people often use it as the average damage, I’m not sure
neon comet
Alpha in general is however much damage a gun deals in a single shot. In general it appears to reference the average damage dealt per shot, with full penetration (for HE), but without ammo rack or engine fire damage
Somebody may have a better definition than I do though
thick trout
Basically the average damage shown on the stats, but that is a much more accurate description
uncut basin
What was the point of the debelopers in removing the derp gun off of stug to now bring it back as a premium or collector in the halloween event.
tulip sail
Because they may have it a t6 also a lot of people used to beg for it back
frigid anvil
hello, i would like to buy a tank from the Valkyria Chronicles series, but I can't find any specifics about the characteristics of the tanks for sale. In the store there is no way to observe the tanks and the site is missing data on their characteristics, please could clarify the characteristics of tanks for sale in stores, not just charge for tanks, because I do not want to buy something without knowing what it is. <@&510077723264286720>
lyric oriole
Give me a sec
If you hit the "I" on the bottom left, and then hit the "Eye" on the bottom left you get a detailed look at the 3D Model with the stats on the side
frigid anvil
only vulcan shows details, would like to know more about others
lyric oriole
I thought maybe it was because I owned the others but not Vulcan give me another second, if it doesn't come up with anything I'll DM you screenshots of the Vehicle stats
frigid anvil
Thx 😄
lyric oriole
If you go to your News Tab there are links
wise moth
@frigid anvil tank-compare.blitzstars.com or blitzhangar.com will show you the stats
median oak
frigid anvil
Thx for help guys, I will choose which one i will buy
median oak
Hafen is pretty weak but the others are solid
robust dagger
Hafen is a Medium with a light playstyle :3
lyric oriole
That's some heavy armor and low top speed for a light 🤔
twilit wigeon
And a bunch of ramming potential for a light tank
delicate shale
The heck, guys it has a total of 158 armour on flat ground (including extra armour from the slope) the hafen actually has a really decent armour profile
And i have gotten nothing bounces from the turret
plucky summit
Don’t expect to bounce much if it has weak spots you can’t hide
delicate shale
The only real weakspots are the small ports on the front and i suppose the rounded part on the front
But it only goes down to 143 there
And the small ports are hard to hit
For the turret its absolutly tiny including the mantlet so its mostly just you can or cant pen it
viral lodge
Are any of the Valkyria Chronicles tanks a must buy?
twilit wigeon
Lupus
plucky summit
It has many weak spots but they’re tiny and everywhere
twilit wigeon
Also 12 degrees of depression
lyric oriole
I would say Edelweiss, it's a great all rounder for a tier 7
twilit wigeon
It’s not bad tbh
If I ever get enough money for that I would get it which I don’t
frigid anvil
I buy Lupus, i like damage and block lol
plucky summit
Bruh that’s like, heavy tank type of stuff
median oak
Lupus and Nameless are pretty OP. Edelweiss isn’t bad, I just didn’t like it because when first released it had a weird offset gun to reticle issue, that caused me to impact low constantly - and often hit cover etc. While apparently this was fixed years ago I had long since parked it.
elfin meadow
Nameless is what I’d get. A friend of mine got it, I did 2.5k in the first game I tried it and blocked 3k. Got 3 bois
Also don’t judge but I forgot how was the MS so good
plucky summit
Great pen, almost invincible tail, a mig meme I guess, dear to many players
solid gate
We need pumpkin attachments for the t57 heavy...
It should also have the new consumables.
valid lodge
Yes on pumpkin, no on consumables
floral thunder
Its funny how in the valkyrie chronicles lore the Vulcan is supposed to be similar to the Tiger P and the same gun as the Lupus but this is not what we received. WG why?
dapper panther
Cuz WG
hollow belfry
WG 2 weeks ago: we dont plan to add the prog. M46 anytime
WG now: let's add that premium
tulip sail
It's still not going to be added for a very long time it's just in testing like the m4/fl10 was
thick trout
The 2 maps released in may (5 months ago) have still not been implemented so it seems like WG has no schedule at all. The "good" thing is that if it is a prem WG will have much more incentive to release it. Who cares about the playerbase wants when you can squeeze some more money out of them 🤷♀️
median oak
Maps can take a long time to refine and balance. Significantly longer than a tank. We’ve seen several new maps this year so don’t get your knickers in a twist.
thick trout
Does it take 5 months for a team working full time to balance a map? They have released new content which has been good but it has been overshadowed by their huge mistakes at balancing tanks (things like the charioteer and foch that everyone except WG knew was going to be broken before it was released)
solid gate
i believe that pretty much all the maps are balanced, the only one that needs some rework is naval frontier, heavies going to position get easily spotted and farmed, on one side there is more cover, while on the other there is pretty much nothing, only a giant rock.
thick trout
The heavies take maybe 1 hit from meds that are now out of position.
dapper panther
alpenstadt sucks as well, reason:
on med/light side you cannot efficiently take position
thick trout
Why not? There are loads of spotting positions
dapper panther
TD-wise i mean
thick trout
Ooohhh noooo you cant camp? What a shame
ebon tundra
...
hushed shadow
Lol
faint iron
@ebon tundra he told me earlier there were no plans! 😂🤷♂️
He said there were no current plans
ebon tundra
Then we know now how Long it takes to create a new tank for blitz
hushed shadow
So some days later he changed his mind?
dapper panther
well, adding a tonk to the test server =/= adding it to the live sever
hushed shadow
But they have plans now, and didn’t have plans a few days ago or even the tank added into the game to take those pics
dapper panther
also, adding the tank to the live server =/= releasing it to be publically available
(Nameless and Edeweiss were in live for like a year already before they appeared in the shop in the first time)
hushed shadow
Well it could even be that they didn’t want to give out anything on the tank at that time until they were ready to
faint iron
Either way, I’m excited For this.
wanton quiver
Is Progetto M36 Premium or Clasic tank
@frigid ember is Progetto Premium or Clasic tank
plucky rain
tech tree not Classic tank
solid gate
People are surprised it came here? Everyone here literally asked for it
dapper panther
tier10 progetto is tech tree tank
tier8 progetto is testtank, marked as if it was premium
modest tangle
It will become a premium
grand linden
Jpanther2
stark pond
whats the reason? cause ferdinand is way slower?
hushed shadow
Jpanther also has decent armor for that mobility
stark pond
i see
thick trout
Jp can do everything a ferd can do but not the other way round
visual oasis
Can anyone give me an experience review on the Panzer 58? It’s one of those premiums that I’ve seen around for awhile and from what I can tell it performs pretty well. It would be much appreciated!
bright folio
I like it, but it's in any way, shape, or form. It has a troll front and top plate, and slightly more mobility than most other t8 90mm meds. The armor on the sides and rear is really weak.
narrow shadow
It's like Indienpanzer but you pay for it
bright folio
It has the 90mm gun from the indien/french meds, which is a fairly good gun. It's probably an example of what premiums should be, not op, but gets credits.
It's like an Inden-panzer, but faster and less well-armored.
lyric oriole
@floral thunder Panzerjager is armor Hunter it's not referring to tiger P especially because it says Elefant it's referring moreso to what you know as the Ferdinand
neat nimbus
should i go for turret and gun?
tulip sail
I always go turret/gun first
neat nimbus
alright
limpid maple
Hows the VK 100? Looks like a T8 maus with a giant hatch
tulip sail
Its alright after the nerf it seems (I dont have it but I frequently fight it
thick trout
If you constantly sidescrape and wiggle your turret then its decent, but dont expect to bounce much with your lower plate out.
limpid maple
yea - i have the E100 line, love the T8-10 of that line
keeping lower plate exposed is a good way to last not much longer than a light tank
since everyone will love the immobile hard to miss target 🙂
i took a long break - before i thought the Tiger II was kinda meh - had my bonus game in the tank and played a few - loved that tank.. did it get a buff?
narrow shadow
VK100 is trash, the armour is not reliable enough and you have terrible gun
limpid maple
yea noticed the gun might as well be russian in the stats
frigid compass
even russians have better guns lol
a really big tank with big weakspots and a meh 128mm gun
limpid maple
lol
well is it worth going down the Maus line?
other possability is i go for the T110E 3 or 4 - i have the T110E5
near forge
If you want the iconic tank of this game, sure.
Do you play better in TD's or in Heavies?
limpid maple
the tanks i've done best in were E-75, Tiger II, E100... also did better than i normally do in the German medium line E50 and E50M
better than JPE100 and JagdTiger
so i'd say slightly better in heavies than mediums and td's which are hit or miss
near forge
So go for the Maus. Just know it is very unforgiving if you either underangle or overangle
limpid maple
worse than E-100?
now I think I can do better w/ a turreted TD than a non-turreted - based on my experience playing the JPE100 line I found that I just fail miserably to setup shots and the best I could hope for was to trade hit poitns - at least they'd hit me for 400 and i'd hit them for like 800 when i did ti right but you get what i mean w/ noth aving a turret
well more me being bad in that situation i know people make it work
lime violet
hi guys
plucky copper
We need ISU 152 defender !!!
limber dawn
is the IS-3 worth to go for?
narrow shadow
Yes, IS3, IS8 and IS7 are all good tanks
grim moss
They're ok, IS-7 is pretty much outclassed by IS-4 and IS-3 is outclassed by the more OP tier 8 prems
narrow shadow
Well yes, but I enjoy playing IS7 like a medium tank crusher
In fact, I prefer it over IS4 😄
However I only play classic public matches, no tourneys, in tourneys IS4 is no doubt better
visual oasis
Alright! Thanks VK and Tony! I like my Indien Panzer! Especially the outrageously accurate gun! Well, that’s germans for ya! And I actually do okay in that vehicle. Lol! Thanks again, I’m gonna go for it, I think! I’ll let you know how I fare in it!
crisp gust
Why does Tiger 131 doesn't looks like originall Tiger 131 from Bovington? Now it's only Tiger 1 with stupid camo
torn seal
I think tiger 131 has its original camo, before it came to bovington
Don't quote me on that though
modest tangle
@crisp gust it should... We told WG at tankfest how awful it looked
limpid mauve
What do you guys think is the thing that you like most in a tank(armor, mobility, gun). For me it is gun handling.
solid gate
Mobility
somber rampart
Gotta go fast
robust dagger
Mobility and Gun.
wise moth
Looks 😆
lyric oriole
Armor, any game I play I focus on Defense
grim moss
Gun and gun depression is all I need
frigid compass
armor and gun is the thing i like the most but i also do like not moving at a super slow pace
plucky summit
I love using armor and bouncing shots, other than that a powerful gun is my preference
twilit wigeon
Oh so basically a WZ-120-G-FT but without armour
plucky summit
That’s really a borsig, in case
frigid compass
i just like tanks that has a good combo of speed armor and gun
if it goes 20kmh with terrible armor and only the gun to back it up i dont like it
plucky summit
I realize how much Helsing H0 fits that
calm inlet
good combo of speed, armor, and gun means a tank is broken
you’re not supposed to have all 3. you can get 2 aspects of that as good, but the third better be pretty bad
if you do have all 3, all traits have to be mediocre with its peers at best
solid gate
Give me speed and a gun and I'm happy
calm inlet
sounds like the Maus is the tank for you
solid gate
I'm not sure you and I are on the same page.
raven jacinth
would be nice if the Helsing's guns' worked like the Obj 703 II
calm inlet
i think its gun is goodenov™ as it is lol
valid lodge
Jack of all trades, master of none. If you're a master of all, you're broken
elfin meadow
So someone I know irl said that the 50TP Prototype from Mercenaries looks like the “OP” tank in the Halloween sneak peaks.
What y’all think
lyric oriole
Not at all
solid gate
Some people here would do a poor job at identifying targets
elfin meadow
That’s what I thought lol
floral thunder
The more I look into the vulcan and its information both in Blitz and in VC (Valkyria chronicles) the more upset I am as to what the tank should have been and how incorrect some of its stats are
lyric oriole
Fighting the Vulcan is stupid annoying in VC, especially with that MG on the front
plucky summit
Yeah, considered as straight up spaced armor in BH
floral thunder
Also I apologize in advance for what I'm about to paste as it might be pretty long
Its worded weirdly so keep that in mind as well
The premium tank that I was disappointed with the most that I purchased was the Valkyria Chroncle tank VULCAN.
The reason being is that the tank is supposed to be based off the Ferdinand, however the Vulcan doesn’t have 160mm of armor at its front cheeks which are using its 100mm side armor.
Vulcan only has 6* of gun depression when in reality it should have 8* if its based off the Ferdinand. Not only is it statistically wrong being similar to the Ferdy but the stats and model of the Vulcan are from TWO different versions.
The Vulcan tank model is the Vulcan Procus which is the version that has spaced armor, while the weight and engine power is from the regular Vulcan that doesn’t have spaced armor.
The Vulcan that we have in-game is supposed to have 1200HP instead of the 990HP (which is not far from the Vulcans 1000HP from VC) and Is supposed to weigh 72Tons and not the 64.8 (again close to the weight of the Vulcan’s 65t).
The only parameter that I do agree that WG didn’t do is that the tank in VC is supposed to go 64km/h, I could only imagine the panic that light tanks would be having seeing this behemoth going that fast.
Again, the stats on the Vulcan that we have should be based off the Procus not the regular one. If any of you want to see this information you can find it by typing “Valkyria Chronicles Vulcan” and head to the wikia.
Oh, almost forgot to mention that the Vulcan in VC lore/trivia has the same gun as the Lupus or at least was supposed to.
It’s an ok to meh tank, I try to enjoy the tank but its really hard to do so when you know that WG gutted the tank that was severely hyped to be this strong heavy tank.
Although I bought it in a bundle so at least I have 4 other tanks to enjoy.
calm inlet
@floral thunder who said it was based off the Ferdi?
scarlet nest
2nd battle and this tank is awesome!
It's like fast St.emil!
floral thunder
@calm inlet the Valkyra chronicles wikia explains that the tank is based off the ferdi, Although I'm not sure if they were referring to its armor or its shape. I can say that they look similar. VC is based off of WWII which is also why the hafen looks kinda like an M4
@calm inlet here's the link to the information if you were wondering were the info is from
https://valkyria.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcan
calm inlet
its not really based on it
so they got the looks right, but to say they should have the same armor profile just because look similar is really stretching it
lyric oriole
The Hafen Design was based off the Sherman. Effectively Claude and his crew are supposed to be from what is in the story: America
Anyways, the Hafen is nowhere near what the Sherman vehicles end up being excepts in similar profile
raven jacinth
but why sherman and not like a M48
also Vulcan doesn't really deserve 1200 hp, seriously? 64km top speed? just no, blatant unbalanced, it would be almost like an E 50 M
frigid compass
@raven jacinth thats why wg gave us a watered down vulcan
raven jacinth
which is good
frigid compass
imagine it being able to go 64kmh though
practically no frontal weakspot 64kmh 64 ton tank at tier 7
@raven jacinth
floral thunder
@raven jacinth I'm just glad WG didn't give it 64km then everyone would complain. Don't go too far the Gravedigger has 1161hp which goes up to 1234hp when fully equiped. Also @frigid compass its 72 tons
lyric oriole
I mean if we really wanted to make Vulcan like Valkaria Chronicles just make the MG function like a pre Nerf T7 Combat Car, the MG is effective against Armor in VC and it almost made me fail a mission because of that
tulip sail
@raven jacinth because last I checked the m48 wasn't a ww2 tank and since VC is ww2 based they wanted to keep the tanks looking like what it was based off of
frigid compass
what the hell is the lupus based on though
floral thunder
Is it me or is the spaced armor on the Vulcan not working? Just tested it with different calibers of heat and HE and HE goes through and the HEAT goes through almost every other shot where there's spaced armor. Can someone help explain?
raven jacinth
might as well use Super Pershing as a basis instead of an M4 lol
tulip sail
Its saved me once against a smasher but that's it
raven jacinth
@floral thunder HEAT works in weird ways, when the shell impacts the armor, it detonates, with the shrapnel and heated stuff along, thus resulting hitting the armor behind it
floral thunder
If thats the case, then why does HEAT not work against super pershing if going by the science?
tulip sail
Why not the m4?
floral thunder
Nvm I found my answer. Super pershing uses 38mm of spaced armor while the Vulcan only has 5mm including the MG turret which explains why its not being very effective.
@raven jacinth
frigid compass
HEAT gradually gets worse in pen every centimeter it travels after hitting spaced armor iirc
raven jacinth
oh
frigid compass
and if it has enough pen still to pen the main plate after hitting the spaced armor it pens and does damage
floral thunder
I got penned by a panther/m10 using AP in the Vulcan and I know this because its dmg was around 160. If I was in the nameless or Lupus they would have bounced those shots. At this point its becoming harder for me to defend the Vulcan. I enjoy it for what it is but argh its frustrating
rancid mauve
@floral thunder doesn’t it have a ball-like thing on its hull that doesn’t have the same thickness as the actual hull?? I’m finding the Vulcan to not really be doing its job..
floral thunder
@rancid mauveno the turret thing acts like 5mm spaced armor
@rancid mauve and no your not the only one who think the tank is a little under powered for what its supposed to do.
narrow shadow
2 things couldve happened - 1) you were slightly angled and he hit the 50mm at track wheel 2) He simply rolled 160 with APCR
rancid mauve
@floral thunder yeah I’m surprised the little guard thing is on 5mm... might as well now even have anything there! Lol
robust dagger
Its still the Vulcan Procus
daring pagoda
It better be Russian
lofty heron
^
hot jackal
Iz Japanese?
solid gate
Ooooo
lofty heron
no plz
fringe lily
KV-4
random badger
the picture that was just posted in coming soon it is a jap heavy? look likea type 5 heavy hatch