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solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I have seen a lot of people kinda hate it lol

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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don't use the autoloader, use the t91 gun instead

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I love the autoloader lol

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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i prefer the top

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:54 PM

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I used calibrated shells to fix the issues against Tier VII tanks oof

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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love that thing, always be able to ram at those amx light at full speed and it feel so satisfying when i does it too

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Yep

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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yeah i guess so

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Should I get the AMX ELC bis

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 1:56 PM

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if you can run continuously then yeah

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just avoid ramming into destructible objects cause those will slow you down dramatically

odd glacier Sep 11, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I hate that the turret is bot 360 degrees turnable

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 1:59 PM

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AMX ELC bis is very fun

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I found it kinda hilarious and irritating when the AMX sneaked behind my T1 Heavy lol

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I can't even shoot him because my tank is too tall

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:00 PM

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@solid gate amx elc bis worth it

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 2:00 PM

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I'm griding the French line rn

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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The whole French light line is worth it imo

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Is the French heavies good?

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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grinding for the foch atm

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Pretty good, but they need some serious skills to not die in three minutes.

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The tier 6 French heavy is one of the best out there tho

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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tier 8 is good also

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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amx 50 100 is quite paper though

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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AMX 50 100 is good as long as you still have teammates left

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I'm playing the D3 rn

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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true, but very good gun

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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which normally doesn't happen much on asia

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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True that

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:04 PM

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btw, is there a legendary camo on the tiger 2?

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 2:04 PM

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So um, I'm gonna get murdered by the buffed Panzer III

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Not that I know of

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Nah you're fine as long as nobody spams premium ammo @solid gate

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:05 PM

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oof everyone before was like "pz 3 is bad" and now they say it's too good for a tier 3

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:05 PM

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they should've made already a legendary camo for the tiger 2, named king tiger

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:08 PM

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yeah they should

whole iris Sep 11, 2019, 2:08 PM

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ya

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:09 PM

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tiger p should get a legendary "white tiger" camo cause the movie white tiger has the tiger p as the main antagonist

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:09 PM

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for the most legendary tanks in WWII they should add legendary camos

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tiger p, they should, because why is there a fury tank

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its kinda like the same, but the fury is a prem tank, but the camo should be on the tech tree tank

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:11 PM

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well white tiger is quite underrated, it isn't as well known as fury or t-34

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Why sell a camo when you can sell a whole tank?

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There's also a Loza's M4 Sherman too

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:14 PM

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not everyone has to buy new premium tanks, camo's can be a little extra, for an iconic tank

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they made that loza sherman tank, the fury aswell, but why did they only make a camo on the m4a3e8, which is a tech tree tank, a camo which make is the shrieking or something

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:16 PM

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well some tech tree tanks does have a legendary camouflage

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the tiger 1 for example has the gamescom camo

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:17 PM

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true, tier 10's most of em

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Some tanks get two legendary camos

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Grille gets RA1DER and Troublemaker

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:19 PM

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maus gets 2 aswell + m48 patton

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:20 PM

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is there a tier 10 that actually doesn't have a legendary camo though

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:21 PM

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yes, e3 and e4 fv005 chinese td wz113GFT wz121 and a few more

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:22 PM

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FV4005 Clipbarn

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:22 PM

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i thought that was only a attachment

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Nah that's a nickname

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FV215b doesn't have a legendary camo too
Hmm

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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yolowagon?

brisk orbit Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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obj 263 wagon

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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stronk

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Object 263 Yoloing

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Along with T110E3 Chungus

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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t110e3 has like the most trollish cupola and possibly frontal armor i've ever seen

brisk orbit Sep 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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American t9 and t10 tds are annoying like ok T95 don't need to put a 640 while i spam prammo to penetrate you

inland osprey Sep 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Tbf their crew can run faster than it running at full speed.

brisk orbit Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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E4 is annoying like imagine E3 but it has goddamn turret

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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eddie just drive faster then the t95 is turning to shoot u 😄

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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t95 has 16km/h as top speed

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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i am cycling faster then that

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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that's still faster than the tog though, 14km/h as top speed

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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the tog got left behind by the team for 70% of the times

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:36 PM

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in real life the t95 wasn't intended to be use for combat though, it was intended to be use for destroying through wall barriers and because it lacks too much speed

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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t95 doesnt exist btw, its called the t28 superheavy

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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or something like attacking german defense and stuff like that

noble plume Sep 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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T95 has created to destroy buildingsT95 Exists

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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oh yeah that

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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t95 existed, but it renamed to t28 superheavy

noble plume Sep 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Yes

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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i know, i think the t28 prototype is fake though, can't find any real proof that it exists

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:40 PM

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clef, i think they just needed an extra tech tree tank in world of tanks blitz, with a turret, and was like the t28, the t28 prototype

crude gorge Sep 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i guess so, for the e4 line they are required to add that tank in cause there are probably no more tanks that are suitable there

peak smelt Sep 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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affirmative!

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what do you guys think of the obj252U, the t22 medium?

rancid mauve Sep 11, 2019, 3:04 PM

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IS-2SH feels much stronger than Chrysler. I was fighting against it today and it got the luckiest bounces

zealous anchor Sep 11, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Are you kidding

robust dagger Sep 11, 2019, 5:06 PM

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The IS-2SH sucks in so many aspects..

sage grotto Sep 11, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Chrysler K is way better

tulip sail Sep 11, 2019, 5:37 PM

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That's not saying much

sage grotto Sep 11, 2019, 5:38 PM

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toon?

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i have had it for a while

tulip sail Sep 11, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Nah I gotta study and I only have the is2sh and I hate it

acoustic bobcat Sep 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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📎 3.png

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📎 Capture.png

hollow mango Sep 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Can someone screenshot their equipments and provisions on IS-2SH, CHRYSLER and OBJ. 252U?

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For me, pls

waxen bough Sep 11, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Who else thinks they should add arties into the game?

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Or am I the only one?

hushed shadow Sep 11, 2019, 7:08 PM

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You

waxen bough Sep 11, 2019, 7:08 PM

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ah ok

hollow mango Sep 11, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Same

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I think they should also add arty to the game, but they would have to make bigger maps so it would be playable

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No, Jk, I would uninstall the game

tulip sail Sep 11, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Yeah the only thing I'd hate more than arty is Japanese heavies

hollow mango Sep 11, 2019, 7:30 PM

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And British Tier 9-10 TDs @tulip sail

wise moth Sep 11, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I'd honestly love to have Arty in the game TBH

pulsar rampart Sep 11, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Can't imagine arty being here.
Rather would prefer slow sushi boxes

fleet berryBOT Sep 11, 2019, 9:13 PM

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dynoSuccess Rareheroicdancer#3850 has been warned.

tulip sail Sep 11, 2019, 9:17 PM

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@hollow mango I actually dont care that much about the British tds

vast pewter Sep 11, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I think that we should get more tanks that can fire missiles, such as M551 Sheridan, T-34 Calliope, and M60A2. I also think they should add the Finnish BT-42 and the Japanese Type 4 HO-RO just for some interesting, low-tier, derps.

somber rampart Sep 11, 2019, 11:08 PM

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More tanks to put in crates ^

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 11:17 PM

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For the love of god don’t ever suggest those tanks again

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If you know nothing of the game You end up suggesting that

somber rampart Sep 11, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Wargaming is going to take all of those tanks he mentioned and put them in 3,000 dollars crates

solid gate Sep 11, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Kranvagn when

somber rampart Sep 11, 2019, 11:32 PM

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2034 in a crate

tulip sail Sep 12, 2019, 12:08 AM

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@solid gate hey I suggested the calliope and I dont think it would be bad

(My suggestion was to have it as an attachment that doesn't affect stats in any way)

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 12:09 AM

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Calliope attachment is a big yes @tulip sail m60a2 and and Sheridan are huge Ls

tulip sail Sep 12, 2019, 12:11 AM

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I did have another suggestion for the m4s I'll have to find again

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they should add a Sherman attachment pack for like 5k gold that allows you to make what ever Sherman add on there was like the rhino attachment,deep wade gear sandbags, wooden side boards, tulip rockets but just have them not do anything but look good and have them able to be added on all shermansI'd buy it in a heart beat and maybe even if it was 10k but at 10k Itd have to be for all m4 variants

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 12:34 AM

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guys how much aim time does the obj. 252u in game, not in blitzhangar or blitzstar??

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 12:47 AM

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As it says in those sites..?

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 12:55 AM

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nope, i mean in the game with fully equip

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Bruh moment

wise valley Sep 12, 2019, 12:57 AM

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U can adjust the settings besides it usually gives maxed out from the get go on blitz hanger

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Man I miss it

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:17 AM

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what should i buy, lowe or the obj 252u?

sage grotto Sep 12, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Obj

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Lowe b credits for days, Obj 252u just has a good upper galccis

somber rampart Sep 12, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Löwe is a good choice for swimming in credits

wise valley Sep 12, 2019, 1:22 AM

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and good tank so why not really

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Both have a good upperplate, Lowe can hulldown just as good as 252u, but Lowe is slow with a laser and 252u is sluggish reload with a 420 popper

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Naw it’s pretty high and thicc

latent reef Sep 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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my tanks ar the teir 2 tanks not to good

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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which of them has better in performance in t8?

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Both are very good

wise valley Sep 12, 2019, 1:39 AM

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lowe has a bad middle plate tho so be careful

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:41 AM

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U gotta wiggle a lot to have a bouncy chance

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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ohhh,

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Lowe is slow, but the 252u isn't exactly fast either. They're both good hulldown, and have good guns among their peers. The armor is either very good or very poor, depending on the driver.

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The Lowe does have surprisingly good traverse for a 90-ton tank.

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:44 AM

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but the only thing i hate about russian tanks is there gun handling especially its aim time and despersion

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Lowe barely misses unless it’s your fault, the pen is relatively high for the tier

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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i have is5 but i hate ita gun handling, terrible aim time a d despersion

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5 secs aim. time and around 3.7 despersion

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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That's the thing with russian guns, especially on heavies. It balances out the good alpha, armor, and mobility for heavies.

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I like my IS-5. I'm not entirely sure why.

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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the only russiab heavy i like is the is4, has very good armor and a descent gun handling unlike t8 russian ht

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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The IS-4 isn't the only well-armored Russian heavy for it's tier.

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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IS-7

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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ST-1, KV-4, KV-3, IS-2(1945), T-150, KV-1, KV-220t, Obj 252u.

short sail Sep 12, 2019, 1:59 AM

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They need to add SPG's into the game

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Nooo

tulip sail Sep 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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They have them

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" stug"

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Again, can't imagine playing arty here, especially when using touch control.

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Imagine always hitting a building/rock with an arty... ahhh, good times

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Small maps and short time limit of battle
Unless you want rapid firing arty, something like LeFH18 B2

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Or put Landkreuzer P 1500 in each team, with 4 minutes of reload time.

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Oh how about actual aiming mechanics
Get rid of dispersion
And say hello to shell drop and loss of pen over distance
Also better tank armour

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Also how about putting the scope next to the cannon instead of inside it

wicked hamlet Sep 12, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Dispersion is actually a real stuff but, that happens if you shoot frequently

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Over and over, until the barrel starts to heat up

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Well dispersion happens with range also

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War thunder logic

wicked hamlet Sep 12, 2019, 3:04 AM

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In the nutshell, WoT is using a smoothbore gun although the gun is rifled

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:04 AM

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XD

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Excited about the new tanks, maps in war thunder along with the nv gear?

wicked hamlet Sep 12, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Yep, it’s already dropped btw

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Kinda sad they removed the tiger 2 10.5 cm kck, panther 2, and maus

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Any other things they remove?

wicked hamlet Sep 12, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Yeah... at least we can still play the Maus here

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Coelian

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Happy i bought it

fallen fractal Sep 12, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@pulsar rampart perhaps the closest we can feel is WoWBlitz aircraft carriers... need maps as big as that to make SPGs work..

shell moat Sep 12, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Yep

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Arty can work

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Wg will just have to make a boat load of new maps that are at least a minimum of 1000 meters in any direction

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Up the players per team

golden birch Sep 12, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Devs have repeatedly said they can’t do that Bc mobile devices can’t support that big of maps

solid trench Sep 12, 2019, 3:12 AM

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In WoT PC... go play arty there. Blitz is still mobile game with 1-2 min fast battles

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Not mentioning amount of data send/received from server in case of bigger maps and bigger amount of players
Anyway, it would end as it did in PC version, nerfing arty so long that it will be unplayable. I am keeping them only because of campaigns

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 3:40 AM

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how much aim does is3 in fully equip?

wicked hamlet Sep 12, 2019, 4:20 AM

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2.54 seconds with 100% crew, Enhanced gun laying drive and Vertical stabiliser

turbid iron Sep 12, 2019, 5:25 AM

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thats not the ingame aim. time.
Whag i mean is the in game time, like 5secs or something to shrink the circle

rancid mauve Sep 12, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Thoughts on Mauschen?? Feel like I’m playing it right, but I’m just getting slaughtered left and right. 😔

thin goblet Sep 12, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Do you use sidescrape

rancid mauve Sep 12, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Yes of course! Angle the turret up slightly as if you would in the Maus just not as much as in the Maus

dapper panther Sep 12, 2019, 6:37 AM

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2 weakspots on mäuschen: cupola + belly

rancid mauve Sep 12, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Yes, those plus the turret cheeks. Just feels that even though I angle, people are going right through like butter.

wary loom Sep 12, 2019, 7:02 AM

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^^

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T49 with calibrated shells or not?

hollow notch Sep 12, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Mauschen is a bad maus. Glad I got mine from the vk45b

dapper panther Sep 12, 2019, 7:17 AM

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unfortunately I'm late to the party:
reached Grille 15 post nerf
reached Charioteer post nerf
reached Mäuschen post VK45b lockout

rancid mauve Sep 12, 2019, 9:06 AM

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I too have the Grille yet I find it very accurate and fairly mobile still

hushed shadow Sep 12, 2019, 9:31 AM

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The camos quite awful

rancid mauve Sep 12, 2019, 9:40 AM

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God awful lol

dapper panther Sep 12, 2019, 10:06 AM

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Most of the tanks look like rolling on ice: tracks roll as if the tank moved like 20m, actual travelled distance is 5-10m

zealous anchor Sep 12, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Lol

dapper panther Sep 12, 2019, 10:21 AM

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It's true. Next time you roll out to battle, keep an eye on this

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 11:52 AM

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object 252U better than löwe or t34 to farm credits? (on a good player)

narrow shadow Sep 12, 2019, 11:53 AM

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No

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 11:53 AM

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No, Lowe has a very high credit coefficient, if given premium time and/or boosters, you can make 50k a game

static kelp Sep 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

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Have u any names for a legendary camo for the fve202

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

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ah okay so löwe is the best to make credits with

static kelp Sep 12, 2019, 12:07 PM

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But löwe cost so much

whole iris Sep 12, 2019, 12:08 PM

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whos thinks tank crates are scams for money since im f2p player so I cant get gold to buy premiums

plucky summit Sep 12, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Lowe ain’t 12500 gold tho 😂

static kelp Sep 12, 2019, 12:10 PM

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But 8100 i think🤔

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The centurion brings u good credits

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When u can play this tank

smoky dune Sep 12, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Löwe and Super Patton are your credit printers. You can even use plenty of premium ammo and still make a serious profit. Both are sluggish but with excellent guns and solid armor when angled or hull down.

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Lowe comes out ahead in my book due the the better pen on standard AP

zealous anchor Sep 12, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Gentleman/Finessse @static kelp

livid yacht Sep 12, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Super Pershing (not patton) has nothing to do with exelent gun

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Hmm, lcost back in store for hard cash, does anyone actually play tier III anymore? They’re all the same now

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Locust I mean

flint horizon Sep 12, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Seems to similar to the T15. There are so many fast firing tier 3. Now the tetra arch I would definitely buy lol

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Or even similar to the PZ3A

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Still have pz III A, t-15, t-127 and m3 light, same with t7 car, tetrach and light Vic . Not using them

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I just wish we could get the low tiers from before the 5.5 butcher job. Now we’ve even lost the autoloader from the M5 Stuart. Saw the Luchs recently in a t5 game, fun little tank.

hollow belfry Sep 12, 2019, 3:11 PM

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The Standard B looks really interesting. Can't wait for 6.3

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 3:15 PM

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I wanted flak bus, but didn't get it in time.
At least I still have M4A3E2

hollow belfry Sep 12, 2019, 3:17 PM

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@pulsar rampart Oh I still have the flakbus, when i'm top tier i just yeet in frontline, do 2k dmg and 4 kills.

pulsar rampart Sep 12, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Flak bus was funny, especially with its gun elevation

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 4:14 PM

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@magic warren You want the autoloader back on the M5 stuart? On my mobile account I had a 93% WR after 40 battles and i am not a mobile player at all.

static mountain Sep 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I am playing the Centurion 1 right now and am very happy with its performance! A great tank!

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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@thick trout I want variety, I’d like to see autoloaders as well as little derps return to low tiers. I agree that on its own the M5 was badly out of balance

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Can we get a 123/128/130mm autoloader in the gane?

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Also low tier TDs and heavies. If WG think players are too daft to handle more than one tank per tier why offer them for cash as collectibles?

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Can we just reverse the 5.5 tech tree, but keep the chaffee at tier 6?

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Also, return the alphas back, but not all of the guns.

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The 105mm derps and high-potential clips might actually be a problem.

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:24 PM

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you can always tweak alpha/pen/reload but what we have now with every single tank doing ~40 alpha with no choice of ammo is just sad shadow of past glory

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 5:30 PM

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@magic warren So you want to sealclub again? Are you aware that you want to kill the game or are you just oblivious? 5.5 stopped about 90% of sealclubbers and was great.

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Sealclubbing again? Nope, I only started playing around 5.1-5.3 so was a total noob when 5.5 hit (not much changed since). People still club, low tiers are full of rerolls

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:42 PM

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But that was the fun part after unlocking the tier X tanks. Sure sealclubbing is bad but once in a while it's ok. It brings the nostalgia when we started playing the game as noobs and we realize how far we have come. Honestly after 5.5 I didn't play for fun ever in every tank except the KV-2 but sadly even that got its pen decreased. Also by making new players get tier 5,6 tanks easy there's a lot of noobs who should first learn the game mechanics

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

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And now with xp slashed noobs reach tier V within 50 battles and get clubed there ruining the experience for everyone else, so I’m not sure who’s oblivious here

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Wot pc is much more fun than Wotb

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Trouble is low tiers are so boring now that new players don’t want to ply there either

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:47 PM

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I had started playing blitz in Dec of 2014 and I had so much fun looking back I wish I knew the mechanics better because I got sealclubbed in every 2nd game but I never thought that it was bad coz just by seeing a sealcluber play you learn a lot. I never took sealclubbing negatively but instead got in platoons with sealclubers and became a better player.

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@mossy drum truly Zen attitude

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 5:49 PM

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The low tiers are now a great place to learn the mechanics. You dont have to worry about sealclubbers obliterating you with their OP tanks because there is basically only 1 left and that is super rare. Getting to tier 5 in 50 battles generally happens to the players that learn quickly. Tier 5 is still sealclubbing and you should only get new players there. Tier 1-5 are made to be a basic introduction, and then after that you specialise and get a greater variety. You learn much more by finding your own way instead of watching someone who pretends they are a 70% player massacre a team of people under 500 battles

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Tier 4 has the DW2. It's still got a 160/135/200 gun.

onyx coral Sep 12, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Actually - i played in T1/2 all day yesterday for some masteries... there are seal clubbers galore.. mostly those folks that choose to never go up the tiers and just feed upon the new players for high stats

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60%ers with avg damage of 400

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@thick trout I don't know what server you play on but try Asia server sometimes there's pure cancer at tier 5 and 6. And about tier 1-4 tanks. They are no fun cuz every tank is the same you don't learn different play styles in tier 1-4
What you learn is camp and shoot a tank .
That's it nothing else.
There's no side scraping, angling, or out manuring , or flanking.
It's just shoot and shoot till either the enemy dies or you

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@thick trout I see your point and it looks really good on paper but from what I can see it’s not what is happening. New players rush through the tiers and nobody really spends any time learning the mechanics in low tiers

glad night Sep 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

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There’s a guy on NA server I saw once with 60% avg dmg of 250 and 15k games - 14k games in BT7 art and the guy didn’t have any tanks past tier 5 🤣

onyx coral Sep 12, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I saw like 10 of them yesterday

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on NA

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I could barely play 30 games on T1/2 without being completely annoyed by the players

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:55 PM

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That is true @onyx coral

onyx coral Sep 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

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oh and by the way... they all play PC

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I had to turn off my same type option to even get a match, then suddenly i get one in seconds.. so they don't play mobile

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:57 PM

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I even created a new WG account just to see what happens to new players with game experience and it was so annoying, I uninstalled it just to install it all over again

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Tier 1 to 4 is about the basics of the game, not about skills and tactics that need thought. The lower tiers introduce the basics of the game slowly in a way managable to noobs. New players will always rush though the tiers and there will always be people who never learn. After 5.5 there is much more inventive to think and get better instead of just staying at tier 3 and never learning anything new.

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:58 PM

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@thick trout as someone said earlier it's good on paper but even new players don't like to play tier 1-4

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

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As people who have a fair amount of experience on blitz the lower tiers are horrifically boring, but to a new player they are not. The introduce the game without overwhelming new players, and there is still new things to see and be interested in at higher tiers

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Well that is not true

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I have some friends who never heard of WG and they said that the low tier tanks are boring and they gave up saying if the start of the game is so boring then however the higher tier tanks are good it's not worth it

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Well I could go on and on about this but I GTG bye

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Nice chatting with y'all

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 6:03 PM

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They are obviously not interested enough in the game then. The idea does not cater to everyone and so you expect a fair amount people to get bored and leave.

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 6:04 PM

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The same people lover Wot PC and war thunder and also they line WoWsb so it's that game at fault not the people

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Love*

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Like*

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@mossy drum this. And time will tell but I’d risk saying that the 5.5 has damaged the game a lot more than any sealclubbing could

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I couldn't agree more @magic warren

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 6:06 PM

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5.5 was a wonderful update

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Sealclubbing drove away a few of my friends from the game, but the few I have introduced after 5.5 never had that problem

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I hope that Wotb get an update like 1.0 of Wot PC

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@thick trout everyone has their own point of view. And almost all of the Wotb veterans didn't like 5.5 me included. Thought you have the right to believe it did good more than it damaged the game. Best of luck and farewell.

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@thick trout I’m glad it worked out for you. But you may agree that it’s utterly cynical to trim the low tiers “because new players “ and then offer the removed tanks for cash as collectors’ items

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Lmao what "almost all of the veterans didnt like 5.5" is complete and utter 💩. The only people who disliked 5.5 were sealclubbers whose edge over new players got reduced so they started crying. Almost every veteran player never played any of the tanks removed in 5.5 and got free gold. It also helped the playerbase by removing the bullies from the school playground so everyone had a better expe. The lower tiers were a mess that needed sorting out and WG did it very well. The tanks that have been removed have not been offered for cash after 5.5, the only ex-tech-tree tank that has been available was the pz3a that everyone got.

wise moth Sep 12, 2019, 6:34 PM

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^

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 6:38 PM

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best equipment for löwe?

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 6:56 PM

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For me, Calibrated Shells, the one that reduces ammorack risks, optics, Gun Laying Drive, HP, engine power increase and vertical stabs

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:24 PM

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@thick troutbruh, I want a mother hecking td in tier 3

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And I don't want to pay money for it

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An idea is to let players who played for a while and gained experience unlock these tanks in the tech tree once they reach tier 8 personal supply or something

thick trout Sep 12, 2019, 8:30 PM

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That just encourages sealclubbing which kills the game and noone wants. Tier 5 and below should not be fun for players with any experience.

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Cough, "wargaming a selling seal clubbing tanks"

solid gate Sep 12, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Not sure what the appeal is of playing in tier 3...

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Tbh, if they removed them for good, your argument would be true but they still are in the game, just hidden behind a pay wall. though it did reduce seal clubbing, a wallet and time will get you any tank

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Smol tenk and seal clubbing :p

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Locust is cute

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Tbh, if u don't understand, here's a meme

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And I'm getting that to seal clubᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ

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Locust has high dpm, and the pen problem is ez to get around

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 8:50 PM

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M22 Locust literally has no armor, but its decent. T-127 has horrible DPM compared to the other tier IIIs, at a measly 480dpm compared to the average of 700+ dpm on the tech tree meds. But the armor’s pretty solid

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Wait What,Blits Stars Lied

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 8:52 PM

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56mm of pen is a pain to get through other tanks of the same tier

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Just go to their sides and rear

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 8:53 PM

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That is true, but what would you do when you face a D2?

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They can be quite formidable in the right hands

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Well you either retreat and rethink your engagement strategy or u use pramo

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Sure, any tank is formidable in the right hands

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The tier 5 leo is fun to play for me

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 8:57 PM

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You should play it with the single shot 5cm gun pre-5.5. Hard gun to use, but it’s real nice to use

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70dmg every 2.1s, but you only have 64 ammo

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:58 PM

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What tank

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 8:58 PM

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And 70mm of pen

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Vk 16.02 Leopard prior to 5.5, an alternate gun to the 3cm autocannon

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Lel, I was a newbie during before and after 5.5

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Too bad that gun was removed. It has extremely low floor and a pretty high ceiling

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I wish I could see it

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 9:01 PM

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That gun is still on the tier V Leopard on PC IIRC

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In fact, it’s preferred over the autocannon due to the autocannons having limited range over single shots

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 9:02 PM

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I don't have wot pc :(, maybe I should get it

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Looks pretty wild

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I’m afraid that my crappy laptop can’t handle wot pc

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I don’t really recommend it if you’re gonna grind it; grinding your crew, transferring them to other tanks, training fee is very expensive, one crew per tank instead of a universal crew, yada yada yada,

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Modules costs credits, individual crew member training, it’s a real hassle

mighty basin Sep 12, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Eh, that's the fun of the game, make other have to deal with that

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Until someone takes ye out

bright folio Sep 12, 2019, 9:05 PM

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So... I’d have to get some premiums fast?

regal zealot Sep 12, 2019, 9:06 PM

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If you want to transfer your heavy tank crew to another heavy tank w/o retraining them iirc, yes, via a premium HT of the same nation

uncut temple Sep 12, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Hi

neon comet Sep 12, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@bright folio the obj 252u may need a buff...

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sage willow Sep 12, 2019, 10:05 PM

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what prem tank should i or ? lorr40t or Obj 252u

wise moth Sep 12, 2019, 10:06 PM

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@sage willow 252U is a lot easier to play, but a lot more boring than the Lorraine

sage willow Sep 12, 2019, 10:07 PM

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well whats the speed on both, if u know

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im med fan of autoloaders

wise moth Sep 12, 2019, 10:29 PM

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60 on the Lorraine, 35 on the 252U

near forge Sep 12, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Lorraine is a glass cannon though. But if you know how to play meds/autoloaders/french tanks you should do well in it

magic warren Sep 12, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Yeah, Lorry is loads of fun but I always seem to find a red borsig or similar in it

mossy drum Sep 12, 2019, 11:19 PM

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@thick trout Might I remind you that WG had planned to remove low tier tanks in 5.2 or 5.3 but due to the protest of almost every player playing at that time ,even noobs, they sugar-coated it in 5.5 by being able to sell them for gold. Even so they received many people saying that it's a bad idea but they went ahead and did it. And also at the time of 5.5 was released I wasn't a seal clubber because the highest tier I had was 6 and I was working a lot of different lines at the same moment and seeing some of my favorite tanks just go away or be reduced to a joke was not satisfying and so my interest in wotb declined and that's around the time I came to know about Wot PC

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Russian tanks suck now change my mind

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:15 AM

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IS-4?

fleet berryBOT Sep 13, 2019, 12:25 AM

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dynoSuccess FFUICK#3928 has been warned.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:26 AM

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anything other than the is4 is bad now

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and when I said s word with this sentence I got a warning

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but I looked at the discord chat logs and the s words were said alot

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you get warned when you talk about russian tank beingg bad and people dont?

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Unlucky that a mod saw it ahahhah

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:27 AM

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s word literally said 735 times

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what the heck I said american tanks are better than russian tanks change my mind then it got deleted

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Becareful a mod can mute you for anything and say you are discussing mod action

Any thoughts on Patton?

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:28 AM

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m48 good

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Auto delete? Issit Dyno

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I prefer Americans over anything and yea I think it was dino

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Why tho

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Is M48 on the move dispersion good

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:32 AM

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9 degree gun depression

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and as a hull down tanker gun depression is the best thing in american tanks

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strong turret to, which all the american tanks have

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Would u rather Patton or stb @solid gate

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 12:40 AM

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@solid gate you can say what you like about tanks as long as you keep it clean.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 1:07 AM

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ok but keep in mind there are 735 instances of the s word

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Why not @fossil violet

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Can anyone give me advice on a premium tank, and or bundle right now? Not looking to spend a ton of Ching right now but I always like to keep some good credit builders in the lineup. I’ve faced Object 252U and from what I see it is sometimes impenetrable. They really deusched the IS-6 and that was one of my favorite vehicles! I hope they do some modification to it in the next update! The Chrysler K doesn’t appear to be so quite armor protective as it is said to be.? Anywho, thanks! Later! Tank on!

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Lowe is for dem credits if ya need it

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Hulldown in it is nice with a bit a gun depression, also very armored, the hull is less reliable at bouncing enemy shots but it’ll trick a few. Laser accuracy, low damage, not a considerably good reload

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Yep, got a Lowe, bro! You’re exactly right about it too! I can’t get away from it’s accuracy! Unbelievably accurate! Snot that I’m a Master Tanker by any means! Any thoughts on the Lorraine40t, AMX package? It’s always nice to get more bang for your buck! And I like battling in tier VII

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I just don’t want to be disappointed after purchasing. Ya know? Like I’ve become frustrated with my IS-6 Legend? I’ve changed the equipment around, tried both guns multiple times with different loads at different vehicles and I’m just done with it. It’s sad! The thing use to be a beast!!

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Glad to help 👍

mighty basin Sep 13, 2019, 3:50 AM

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T r y a s m a s h e r

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It will t i c k l e your t o g

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With h e

bright folio Sep 13, 2019, 4:47 AM

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The Lowe is effective, nobody’s denying that.

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However, it tends to get boring after a while, like the premium IS tanks.

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There are times when I’d prefer to drive my other premiums that are more fun.

lofty heron Sep 13, 2019, 5:27 AM

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Mhm

magic warren Sep 13, 2019, 6:47 AM

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The T-34-85 victory is a good combination of fun and credits but has quite poor pen so you need to work it hard,

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And it has to face all the tier 7 fantasy abominations

lyric oriole Sep 13, 2019, 6:50 AM

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T-34-85 Vic. Is a credit grinder.

Also the Tier 7 fantasy Vehicles that people complain about, those vehicles have the face the Massive IS-X spam. It's not much better up there.

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:36 AM

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No idea if I should buy Chrysler K + IS-2SH + IS-2 (1945) or Chrysler K + T26E4 or maybe T28/IS-3 Defender.

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:37 AM

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T28/IS-3D is too expensive

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:37 AM

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I'm not gonna buy them both, just one of them, I mean one of them optionally.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:44 AM

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Chrysler k so goodd

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and so fun its worth it

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:48 AM

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What about these 2 options then? Chrysler K + T26E4 or maybe Chrysler K + IS-2Sh + IS-2 1945

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:49 AM

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IS2 and IS2sh are not worth it, neither is T26E4, and I personally don't like chrysler K either

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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Missunde standing lol

T26E4 is pretty fun for me
Troll armor

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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Should i get t34 or lowe

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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It's not troll once you meet someone who can aim

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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mainly for credits. i dont have premium time

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:50 AM

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And i'm agree with is2 is not worth

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:51 AM

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yea chrysler k + t26e4 good

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:51 AM

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5000 gold is pretty cheep but
It's almost for colleting / credit earner

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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I'll take Lowe, the best T8 credit grinder here.

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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How can anyone recommend the worst t8 premium tank? T26E4 is garbage

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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ok ty

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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hey its fun cuz of the good front

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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T26E4 a garbage? I can't say

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:52 AM

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Tell me which other T8 premium tank is worse?

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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he says its garbage cuz he only meet ppl who can aim lol

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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T8? 59-Patton

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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ive never seen a fcm 50 t do exceptionally good

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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LOL 59-patton is one of the best lmao

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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._.

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hows it better than t26e4

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:53 AM

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Lol

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Better speed, better turret armour, better gun

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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It have same alpha i guess?

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Yeah, same alpha

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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The T28 is the best tier 8

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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:-)

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:54 AM

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The tier 6 stock engine is too broken for its match

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:55 AM

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front ye

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:55 AM

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I'd love to play is6
Even it's not good tank

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:55 AM

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but sides and a s s paper lol .-. fun aslong as the enemys infront of u

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:55 AM

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I'd trade it for any t8 prem tank except for t26e4 😄

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is6 is useless, low dpm bad armour worse speed than other is

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:55 AM

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.-.

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:56 AM

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I won the legendary predatory in a camo chest but i dont have the superpershing.

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is e4 worth getting?

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Yeah, I guess so

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:56 AM

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chrysler k looks better in "blitz brawlers" camo than in legendary

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:56 AM

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I wanna go for VK 72.01 K

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Yeah, I would say go with the Lowe. It’s a serious credit grinder! It takes a little work, time, and patience to get it moving and doing what you want it to but once you get use to it, it’ll pump out serious damage without you even knowing it until the end of the battle. And with it’s less expensive vehicle repair price you’ll collect a lot more credits per battle than the T34. And it’s as accurate or even more than T, it just takes a couple more shots to deal the HPdmg.

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Lol VK72 the worst t10 heavy

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Ok, thanks HeiKev75 for descriptive answer

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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hm... for me the fv is worse

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:---)

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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FV215? It's the best fast heavy smh. Are you a troll or just a bad player??

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:57 AM

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a troll and a good player lol

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Lol

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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FV4202 or Stb-1?

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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stb by far

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Stb cause it buffed

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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:-) fv

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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ok i might start grinding that line 🙂

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Wow, 1st time I would've agree with u tony lol

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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Now it's beast

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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lol jk .-.

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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hmm, does russian bias still exist? like do i go for obj140 or stb

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 9:59 AM

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it doesnt exist ok its just stats

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and no stalin cant help cuz hes ded lol

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

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lol

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

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.-. imagine i get banned for saying facs

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

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Putin shell guide you

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

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I love driving my T-26E4 Predator. They’ve done something different with it and it’s armor. It brings good credit like the Lowe as well. I like using my FCM 50t for building credits as well. Accurate and penetrating gun. I believe.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

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:-)

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yea myby putin guide shell but idk

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:01 AM

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Like I said earlier, I’m not a Master Tanker, and my stats show it, lol, but these are my experiences.

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 10:02 AM

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HeiKev75, I totally agree with what you said. I don't really think that Patton is better than T26E4 smhw

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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the at8 needs a buff! the at2 has same frontal armour lol

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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If enemys are full of nub
Is so fun to drive T26E4
If it's not then you can drive it as normal medium

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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but it has this giant weakspot

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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I have done 4k bounce with T26E4 XD

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:03 AM

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( i mean at8)

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 10:04 AM

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Tortoises also have giant weekspot btw

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:04 AM

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yee

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idk why this.. tony guy say that the patton has a better turret? wtf the super pershings turret is alot better

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:06 AM

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You’re welcome Imnotsolucky! Ha, funny, that sounds like me every time I hit the battlefield and people are running into one another and take off in the wrong direction. Leaving you there to deal with the enemy’s heavies by yourself because when they hear the bigger guns and take a shot they take off scampering into one another!! LOL! For real, LOL!!

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

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xc

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

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super pershing is not bad, the tank itself might needs a gun handling buff though

scarlet nest Sep 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

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.......you get the point

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solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 10:07 AM

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lol

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ye

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:09 AM

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You just have to keep yourself facing square with the enemy and work it a little and you can bounce some serious damage off of the frontal armor. I believe.

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I think they did buff the 90mm on the SuperPershing lately. It seems more penetrating than it was. To me anyway.

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Not sure if I should buy that Chrysler K + t2634

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Maybe Chrysler K + T34? Still an option

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Shoot, you say VK72 the worse tierX? I have built and researched the VK45.02B and I love using it. As long as, once again, your team hasn’t rushed themselves into enemy lines so far that they’ve handed the enemy their piles of scrap metal. It can become quite difficult to focus on the lowest hp enemy to knock them out. Strong 12,8cm gun I believe.

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Okay, so now that The IS-3 Defender is out, would you guys and/or girls spend the extra on it over the 252U? Or what are you thoughts on Lorraine 40t, and/or Lorraine AMX 13 75 pkg.?

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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T26e4 is useless, don't buy it

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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well it has the highest average winrate compare to any other tier 8 as shown in the 6.1 chart

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:24 AM

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I just don’t want to waste my money like I feel I’ve done with my IS-6Legend now that they’ve nerf-Ed the dang thing!

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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IS6 was once king, now it's fallen

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:26 AM

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is-6 is already powercreeped because wargaming releases way too many good tier 8 premiums

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

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It was a total beast on the battlefield, I believe! Crazy good deflectability with it’s front armor, and the 122mm throwing HEAT rounds was superbly accurate and penetrating!

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Yeah, I think I’m going to go with the Object 252U. I find myself in a medium tank battling heavies too much that I’m not sure a Lorraine would be the way for me to go. With light armor and all. Unless there’s enough room for me to keep it moving.

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I agree Doctor. Anyone have the Lorraine 40t and use it/like it?

river fulcrum Sep 13, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Hey guys, I don't have the e4 and i probably wont use this camo. going to sell since i wont use it

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red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Not worth it

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Just remember the T34 doesn’t have frontal armor like it’s comparable opponents in heavies so be careful when and where you are with it. And others of youplease understand that it wasn’t designed to be blasting away against E75’s within 100m of one another. It just won’t last! Thank you all for understanding that the next time your watching the battle because you started tapping “ATTACK” 50 times before battle even began and now you are a spectator because of your choices to, ATTACK and were too deep in the schist before you realized it! Much appreciated! Now everyone, LOL!!!

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:40 AM

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t34 has a lot of penetration, it's pretty maneuverable too and when you are playing this thing you should try to go hull down whenever you can cause stronk turret

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 10:41 AM

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HeiKev75, same with T29, Played it and I know I've to hide front armour, and Play for turret

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:42 AM

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I agree totally Doc! Turret is almost impenetrable.

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:43 AM

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yeah if you show it frontally watch out for the hatch though

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you also have 10 degrees of gun depression so this is another advantage

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Oh yeah, I believe it would be. Very similar design between 29&34.

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:44 AM

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t29, t34 and t30 are like the same tank

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just that each is mounted with a different gun, engine and a slightly different turret

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Very true. And yes, I have taken a couple T34’s out knowing to go for the commander’s coupala. Coppola. Thank you auto correct there! Lol

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:47 AM

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yeah the t32 turret is more solid compare to that but t34 is better because better gun, maneuverability and accuracy

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Yes, well understood on that one. There is nothing like a tier 8 battle and sitting in the thickets with the T34 and that penetrating 120mm and knocking the turret off of an unexpecting Tiger II!

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32 and 29 are not as maneuverable as 34? Thank you for that information!

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:50 AM

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t32 traverse isn't that good compare to t34

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it's like 23 or something

visual oasis Sep 13, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Cool, thanks! It’s nice learning these things as one prepares themselves to research vehicles.

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 10:54 AM

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idk, maybe t32 is going to be good in 6.3

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as of right now though it's quite mediocre, apart from the gun depression and the turret

red grotto Sep 13, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Hm.. What about any other medium tank I can buy with Chrysler K?

rancid mauve Sep 13, 2019, 11:28 AM

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@visual oasis I have the Lorraine and absolutely love it, for all that it is. I tend to play impatiently/too aggressively (I’m working on it) and the Lorraine is a quick reminder to NOT play like that lol I’m new to autoloaders and it has a real nice one. Fairly accurate, nice damage output, mobility is fantastic. Those are things I love in a medium tank or any tank for that matter. Having paper thin armour is not fun, and there have been games where I empty a clip and I’m on my way back to the garage. So it’s an overall lovely tank for me!

narrow shadow Sep 13, 2019, 11:42 AM

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T32 will be even worse in 6.3, cuz Tiger 2 is getting huge buff, means tougher competetion. Also you can't buy any premium medium T8 right now I'd recomment

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:03 PM

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oh well then there goes my t32 grind

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 12:06 PM

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It was already a pushover before 6.3

inland osprey Sep 13, 2019, 12:07 PM

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T32 has a very… questionable gun handling for such a small-alpha gun on a heavy.

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:08 PM

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as much as i like the idea of a tiger 2 buff i don't think that buffing the tiger 2 bottom plate is a great idea

fast compass Sep 13, 2019, 12:09 PM

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I am planning on doing the e5 after getting atleast the tier 9 foch. T32 is the only tank i am really worried about to grind through. Such horrible pen for a tier 8 heavy that can do max 35km/hr, well atleast it seems to have a nice turret

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:10 PM

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stock turret is a bait for tier 8, so prepare to free xp that

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i also recommend you get the top gun and the top engine from the t29 so you can be a lot faster later on when you are grinding the t32

fast compass Sep 13, 2019, 12:11 PM

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Well atleast the foch line doesn't require me to free xp anything so i will be saving on that

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:12 PM

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t32 with its stock turret is like the worst tank ever

inland osprey Sep 13, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Stock ST-1 begs to differ

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Stock St Emil begs to differ

crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:15 PM

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t28 with 1st or 2nd gun, stock engine would like to know your location

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 12:16 PM

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MS-1 begs to... get back in the game

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crude gorge Sep 13, 2019, 12:17 PM

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what would happen if wargaming say no

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Don't make me sad..
@plucky summit

raw zenith Sep 13, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Oh lawd more defender spam

bright folio Sep 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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The T28 defender is more of a pain to deal with IMO.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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T28 Defender can't do a full 360 of its turret. This makes it a easy kill.

zealous anchor Sep 13, 2019, 2:57 PM

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ok...

elfin orbit Sep 13, 2019, 3:06 PM

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T28 defender got raw armor thiccness tho

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Pulls off some odd bounces

bright folio Sep 13, 2019, 3:20 PM

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@solid gate not while I'm playing in a VK 100.

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 3:22 PM

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T28 D has a crappy gun

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t28 needs buff!!!

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Don't play heavies ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Don’t play TDs that had a premium version made to buff the old one with money

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Don't play TD's either ¯_(ツ)_/¯

bright folio Sep 13, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I like my heavies and heavy tds, thank you very much.

woven bobcat Sep 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Can someone explain me what is the point in nerfing a mediocre tank? Chi-To once had 10 degrees of gun depression, and now I see it has only 6.

rigid thunder Sep 13, 2019, 4:24 PM

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you're looking at the Chi-To with the stock turret

woven bobcat Sep 13, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Oh, you are right, I just researched a turret (not a gun), and it has 10 degrees. I think it should be decent tank now:)

valid lodge Sep 13, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Wanted to pick up a defender but oof those prices

solid gate Sep 13, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Unless you’re part of a royal family somewhere in the Middle East, I’d avoid paying for them

rancid mauve Sep 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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It’s mental

thick trout Sep 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Love how people here are asking for a buff for the T28 defender when it is basically just a T28 prot with more hp and armour 👍

valid lodge Sep 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Meanwhile the t28 cries in the corner

thick trout Sep 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I need to get the T28, loved the prot so what could go wrong 🤷

hushed shadow Sep 13, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Feels like it’s also a bit faster

lyric oriole Sep 13, 2019, 8:34 PM

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It is faster

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T28 Proto goes about 20, Proto Defender goes about 32

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 8:35 PM

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T28 Defender appears to be better in every way other than gun mechanics

lyric oriole Sep 13, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Basically

thick trout Sep 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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And the gun isnt specifically worse it is just different

plucky summit Sep 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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The gun is nice, and more convenient without the large reload until you wanna burst an enemy with faster shots but you got a normie gun soo ._.

crude moon Sep 13, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Pantera if shoots 3 shells and continue to shoot a shell after 7s its dpm will be 2360.
6s=675dmg
54s= 7.7 rounds X 225alpha= 1733dmg
Total 2360dpm (highest in tier8) for the first minute of encounter only, after that the the dpm will decrease to 1912dpm which is average t8 dpm . This tank would be really fun to play at t8.

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Should the SU-101 get a DPM buff for the top gun?

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 1:27 AM

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A DPM buff would be nice, but it’s not really necessary imo. Recently driven it, pretty solid TD despite the relatively low DPM

zealous anchor Sep 14, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Yea it sacrificed DPM unlike it's line for that high pen gun and playstyle is more of the camper than a DPM support tank

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I play mine as a medium hunter, pretty ok armor and solid DPM to boot, still pretty good as a sniper

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Should the pz3 be buffed?

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 3:37 AM

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It’s fine as it is

zealous anchor Sep 14, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I don't really care about low tier personally xdxd

ripe helm Sep 14, 2019, 3:54 AM

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Since the KV-2 was nerfed the PZ 4 G is over powered it has almost impenetrable armor for teir VIs and the can take out a KV-1 like it's a light tank and I've been playing for several years now and this has been a problem especially for beginners

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Sorry kv-1 on that first part

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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@ripe helm what tank? Pz IV g is a tier V medium, just shoot the turret, or the hull, tier VIs will turn that thing into a joke

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I cant think of a t6 that struggles to pen a kv-1

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Yeah right, prolly the flippin T6E1 😂😉

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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A tier 4?

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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T6 :3

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Sorry, I suck at what’s not even a pun

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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It can still pen the panzer 4 and the t6e1 is the proto m4 Sherman

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But ik what you mean

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Hue hue

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@ripe helm but seriously what tank are you referring to?

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:03 AM

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The PZ 4 G only has good armor against people who think that you should always shoot the hull and never the turret.

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Someone thinks that the Pz IV is OP? Laughable

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Wait why is it known as the m6 if it never hit series production

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Maybe he means VK 36.01 H

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But still...

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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He means kv1

📎 Screenshot_20190914-000600_Discord.jpg

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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KV-1 replaces KV-2?

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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He meant the KV-1 instead of the KV-2

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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T-150>KV-2

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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No it replaces panzer 4 g

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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No

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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@ripe helm please clear this up 😂

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Wait how about this

@ripe helm did you mean the kv1 is op or panzer ivg

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:07 AM

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A kv-1 can take out a kv-1 like it’s a light tank, doesn’t make sense lol

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He clearly meant the Pz IV G, with the KV-1 being mentioned being nerfed

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Ok since when have any of us actually gone this deep into what someone's opinion is before on here

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Maybe he meant the PZ 4 S?

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Me, times ago about the 252u

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Because 252U is so overrated

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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It kinda is

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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It is.

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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It’s just another IS-tank with a stupidly good upper plate and weak lower half

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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^

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Except this one is slow.

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:11 AM

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It’s like saying the Maus is a god now that you can’t penetrate the upper plate 😒

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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It’s OP on PC because it just has similar armor performance to the IS-7. 140mm lower plate instead of the 100mm lower plate on Blitz

tulip sail Sep 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Yeah but that's PC it doesn't count here

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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The 252u can reverse sidescrape really well.

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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These teams are a nightmare

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Realistic battles play really well for my in the FV4005

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Admittedly, that might have been some enemies who’d never dealt with reverse sidescraping before.

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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The point I’m trying to get across is that people are overreacting to the PC variant when the 252U was announced to be released into Blitz. But now? It’s just good, but why the 420 alpha?

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Even then if the enemy isn’t hugging you there’s those same IS-6 cupolas on 252u

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@regal zealot 420 alpha is an excuse to give it a somewhat slower reload time

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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^

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 6:06 AM

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Should the SU-130pm be added to blitz?

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Dunno

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But gun trucks would be cool to see in WoT (basically wheeled TDs)

rustic wagon Sep 14, 2019, 8:24 AM

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The new tier 10 German heavy is vk.75.01.k on PC but why shouldn’t it just be premium too?

obsidian maple Sep 14, 2019, 10:47 AM

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I would call the mysterious tank the UMO (unidentified moving object)

umbral aurora Sep 14, 2019, 11:02 AM

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Guys what equipment is better for the 263, Improved control or Engine accelerator?

zealous anchor Sep 14, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I use improved control and engine boost when I wanna have fun otherwise with adrenaline but it's just me
My general rule of thumb: Improved control on TDs
@umbral aurora

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 11:20 AM

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I wish they added the semovente da 75/18... so cutteeee

ivory fern Sep 14, 2019, 11:36 AM

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I want 15000 gold

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Plz

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Nu

timid jewel Sep 14, 2019, 12:04 PM

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The AT 7 have 10 rounds? Or that is a joke?

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 12:05 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rose venture Sep 14, 2019, 12:13 PM

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So that new German is a crate premium? Or collector

rose venture Sep 14, 2019, 12:37 PM

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😑

robust grail Sep 14, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Kv2 is superb

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 2:50 PM

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at-7 autoloader could deal 900 damage if all shots manage to pen

inland osprey Sep 14, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Keyword "if"

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 2:52 PM

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you have garbage penetration

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 2:53 PM

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110 mm of ap

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180 if you use apcr and regardless you can’t really do anything in tier 8

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Never have I hated 2 degrees of gun depression more.

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 2:55 PM

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gravedigger like autoloaders are horrible, especially on slow tanks

spark sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 2:55 PM

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What happened i defeat again dude

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 2:57 PM

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gravedigger is fun if you are top tier, when you meet tier 8 heavies like is-3 however you know that you will be dead soon unless if your team is reliable enough to carry you

spark sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Is And kv1s the best my tankers i like this fool the specific turret and hit per point Nice Job dude.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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what

inland osprey Sep 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Is engleesh?
No understan yuo engleesh

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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engrish at its finest

spark sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Indo

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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When the gravedigger first came out, I hated playing it in my IS-5. I had sooooo many bounce fests.

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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also, do you guys think that the buffed tiger 2 in 6.3 will be very good

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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the is5 apcr can’t pen the 6.3 tiger 2 bottom plate

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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wait wut

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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yeah there’s a picture

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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It has 217+mm of effective armor on the botton?

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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📎 Screenshot_3.png

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Holy S***

inland osprey Sep 14, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Guess it's cupola time

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Or HEAT time.

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Hold up wait wtf.

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:04 PM

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armor behind the mantlet is 220mm

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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That means that the Tiger 2 can't be penned by most tier 8s with standard ammo.

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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At least the tiger takes even more like the E75 😊

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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i have a feeling that the tiger 2 would be quite op in 6.3

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:05 PM

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yeah its going to become one of the strongest heavy tanks in 6.3

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Honestly there’s no point in making the armor more effective than most T8 pen without even angling, Tiger II will become a noskill

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:06 PM

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im happy it receives a buff but i think this is a bit too much, they shouldn’t have buff the bottom plate

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:08 PM

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... Tiger II now outperforms the Lowe....

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:08 PM

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king tiger is finally the king of tier 8 heavy tanks

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Lol

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:08 PM

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rip vk 100

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Lowe is just a worse tiger but earns you 50k per game now 👀💧

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:09 PM

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The gun is better, at least.

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The Lowe alse has some great traverse.

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:10 PM

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side armor is 300mm behind tracks with angling fyi

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crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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how the tables have turned

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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hell some tier 8 heavy tanks cant even penetrate with prammo

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Meh, just cupola it

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Hmmmm

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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But rebuff VK 100, the cupola can be a bit stronger to counter it’s massive size, the underplate probably needs a buff too but since it’s very easy to hide it might as well leave that option

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:13 PM

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The Tiger 2 has 235mm effective on the upper glacis and 260mm effective on the lower plate.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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yeah vk 100 cupola needs a buff

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Anyone willing to platoon with me?

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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the bottom plate is stronger than the upper glacis what

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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ironic that the upper plate is weaker

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I got speedy to Maus before the line got nerfed 😂

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Also, the Tiger 2 now has a stronger lower plate than the E 75.

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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What.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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what

spark basin Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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gonna rebuy tiger 2

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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262 vs 245.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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this thing is enough scary already in 6.3

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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And then you can angle that angled 160mm plate to become hull invincible 😒

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Yeah even as a tiger 2 player this is getting a bit dumb

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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this thing will sooner exists as my sleep paralysis demon maybe

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Anyone want to TD platoon?

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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#502019319417405441

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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It already has decent mobility it just needed a slight tweaking not a slab of meat that no one can pen

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I hope the speed dies then

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Just shoot through the tracks.

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Oh. ty @crude gorge

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Rather have the speed than this stupid armor

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Same imo

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 3:18 PM

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That’s what me vk 100 is for minus the cupola which I hide like a mad lad

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:18 PM

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the armor on the tiger 2 is absurdly strong

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Can be angled to around 245mm effective everywhere.

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Only the americans and the ISU can challenge that 😓

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Premium americans I should say

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:21 PM

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t34 penetration? probably yeah, maybe the t28 and prototype with top gun cause they have the same pen as the t34

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Yeah, it’s like 248mm, more with CS

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:23 PM

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apcr pen for those 3 are 297, the rhm borsig has like 311 mm of heat pen with the top gun

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same goes for the skorpion g

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:24 PM

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The borsig has 335mm heat, 365mm with CS.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:25 PM

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oh wow that’s even better than i expected but still if that heat hit the tracks then it all gone to waste

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Yup.

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I think that the pen-everything heat counterbalances the 235mm AP.

novel scaffold Sep 14, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Last night e75 swalow 5 shots from back in

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Im hawe video

bright folio Sep 14, 2019, 3:31 PM

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On a related note, the VK 36.01 H has a fair amount of armor now.

crude gorge Sep 14, 2019, 3:34 PM

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rng really liked me a lot when i used to drive this tank, was able to receive a lot of lucky bounces although i know that this tank front armor is like almost nonexistent

devout bridge Sep 14, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Add to blitz Yay or Nay

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empty crag Sep 14, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Nay... For now at least

regal zealot Sep 14, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I’d say that the M1 is unlikely to come to WoT, unfortunately, so nay

ivory fern Sep 14, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Wow

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M1 Adrams

uncut temple Sep 14, 2019, 5:46 PM

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ملت دیگه کصخل شدن 🤔 😂 ورداشته تانک نقاشی کرده کصخل

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@ivory fernکون

ivory fern Sep 14, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Huh?

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 5:48 PM

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English only people

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@uncut temple

uncut temple Sep 14, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@wise valleyکیر خر و english

devout bridge Sep 14, 2019, 5:55 PM

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@empty crag For now

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Regardless

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Read the rules

neat nimbus Sep 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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look what happened

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acoustic folio Sep 14, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Should i get the chrysler k or is-3 defender?

hollow notch Sep 14, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Is3d is not worth 15000 gold

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 7:02 PM

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It’s more like 12500 based on the deal

acoustic folio Sep 14, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Hmm, should i get Chrysler if i have the lowe

valid lodge Sep 14, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Different playstyle of tanks. I have them both and honestly regret buying the Chrysler. It looks cool but it's just a paper weight in my garage. Lowe is slower but makes more money and has better dpm. However they are different types of tanks with the Chrysler being a rear mounted tank it requires a playstyle of a rear mounted tank.

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📎 Screenshot_20190914-160808_Samsung_Internet.jpg

wise valley Sep 14, 2019, 8:18 PM

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That pen diff yikes not worth

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 8:22 PM

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When the Chrysler K is 33 tons lighter despite having more armor and a more powerful engine

ivory fern Sep 14, 2019, 8:39 PM

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.

plucky summit Sep 14, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Powerful engine == heavy engine, most cases though. Lowe is better imo

solid gate Sep 14, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Salut

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Is Panther stronk? and Is the maintainence low or high

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Panther strong in the right hands

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:07 AM

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🤔

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Troll turret, excellent pen, good mobility. The tank’s a great support tank/rammer in the right situations. Just don’t brawl outright; you’re the tallest medium and don’t have the best armor profile

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:17 AM

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@regal zealot but whats the maintenance cost?

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becuz the Soviet giants maintenance is like very high

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 2:17 AM

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I don’t remember about maintenance costs

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:17 AM

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oof

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KV-1

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regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 2:19 AM

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On Armor Inspector, it’s 7734 for a destroyed Panther I @surreal haven

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:19 AM

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SU-100

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surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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We need this in Japanese tree

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Type 4 Ho-Ro and Type 1 Ho-Ni

zinc condor Sep 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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TDs?

scarlet nest Sep 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Ho-ro the derpty derp

tulip sail Sep 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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I'd actually love to see Japanese tds in game

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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same

devout tapir Sep 15, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Japanese TDs need to come lol; the only Japanese TD in the game is the kame Hezher thing

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 3:05 AM

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@tulip sail T82 2 electric boogaloo

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:06 AM

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since japanese heavies are a no no japanese tds should come, cause the japanese tech tree is lacking a lot of contents

zinc condor Sep 15, 2019, 3:07 AM

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it really feel like a tech stick , not tech tree

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:07 AM

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yeah there is 1 line

devout tapir Sep 15, 2019, 3:09 AM

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There's only been 1 line for the past 3 years. Japanese needs some love smh

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:10 AM

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stb-1 is stronk

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after the buff it’s even better than m48 patton tbh

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 4:02 AM

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FV215b 183 history incoming

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The story of Britain's most powerful tank destroyer began in late January of 1951, when it was decided to develop a tank destroyer even more powerful than the FV4004 Conway, armed with a 120 mm L1A1 gun. It was destined to become the most powerful tank destroyer ever built. According to the requirements, it had to confidently penetrate a target with 150 mm of armour at 60 degrees from almost two kilometers away. This target was based on the IS-3. After appearing at the Victory Parade in 1945, this tank was considered the most dangerous opponent of Western tanks for decades.

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In order to meet these requirements, the designers had to find a much more powerful gun than the L1A1. The British didn't bother with the small stuff and went right up to a caliber of 7.2 inches (183 mm). Using such a powerful caliber was no accident. This new gun was based on the 183 mm BL 7.2 inch Howitzer, which was developed from 8-inch howitzers dating back to World War 1. Initially, the howitzer had a barrel length of 22.4 calibers, but later versions of the howitzer extended the barrel length to 33.1 calibers. Unfortunately, even this extension was not enough to fight Soviet tanks.

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In 1950, work started on the QF L4 gun, the most powerful tank gun in the world. The gun weighed a little under 4 tons and had nearly 87 tons of recoil force. In order to clear the fighting compartment of propellant fumes, the gun had a fume extractor fitted. Only one type of shell was planned for this gun: HESH (High Explosive Squashed Head). Not only is the caliber of the L4 stunning, but also the weight of the rounds. The propellant was separate from the shell, but this didn't make the loader's job much easier: the mass of the shell was 72 kg, and the mass of the propellant was 32.8 kg.

The 183mm was tested in live fire trials against a Centurion and a Conqueror. In 2 shots, the 183 blew the turret clean off the Centurion, and split the mantlet of the Conqueror in half.

On November 9th, 1950, the War Office held a meeting to determine what vehicle this super-powerful gun would be placed on. The meeting resulted in four variants:

A fully armoured fighting machine (effectively a tank) with a fully rotating turret. An SPG with powerful front armour, but a limited traverse angle. An SPG with a fully rotating turret, but thin armour. An SPG without armour.

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--- Variant 2 ---
The contract to develop the first variant went to Morris and was later transferred to Vickers-Armstrong. The chassis of the heavy FV200 tank was used, with the suspension from the heavy FV214 Conqueror tank. The project had multiple names: Heavy Gun Tank No.2, Heavy Anti-Tank SP No.2, FV215 Heavy Anti-Tank SP No.2 or simply FV215. The index Heavy Gun Tank No.2 was incorrectly interpreted by historians, resulting in a mythical project called FV215B. In reality, all these indices pointed to the same vehicle armed with the 183 mm L4 gun.

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And the final result

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This project combined the first and second variants. Theoretically, the turret could rotate fully, but the gun was limited to firing within a 90 degree arc. The turret was placed in the rear in order to prevent the huge barrel from sticking out too far. The ammunition capacity was only 20 shells. The rate of fire of the tank was supposed to reach 6 RPM. but whoever set that requirement was a hopeless optimist. The size of the turret did not allow for a loading mechanism, and loading that quickly by hand was not possible. Aside from the gun, the tank had two machineguns. One was a coaxial Browning .30 Cal. (7.62mm) machine gun, supplied by 4000 rounds. It was mounted in a small structure on the forward right of the turret roof. The other machine gun was an .50 cal (12.7 mm) M2HB on an AA mounting above the Loader’s hatch, on the right rear of the turret.

The 65 ton vehicle was supposed to accelerate to 31.7 kph. In order to achieve this, the tank would have an 810 hp Meteor Mk.12 engine. As for the armour, it kept changing throughout the development process. The thickness of the upper front plate varied between 125 and 152 mm, the sides were 50 mm thick (plus spaced armour). As for the turret, the specification was only for the front, which was 254 mm (10 inches) thick.

The FV215 Heavy Anti-Tank SP No.2 was not meant to be. Morris was supposed to first build a full scale model and then two prototypes: one for mobility trials and one as a target for armour testing. In June of 1954, Vickers-Armstrong, the new owner of the contract, was given the same task. Development of the SPG continued until January of 1957. At that point, the full scale model and 80% of the blueprints were ready. But, the War Office got its own Khrushchev and the development of the FV215 Heavy Anti-Tank SP No.2 was shut down in favour of ATGMs.

somber rampart Sep 15, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Yawns

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Kinda interesting how the 4005 has sort of interesting history

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Is there any photos of the L4 ammunition

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https://youtu.be/tSi7Z1WHlrQ
And thats the one that killed the 183mm Tankdestroyer projects.
Interestingly only good in testing but not practical as the Malkara were too heavy for manpacking and thus were limited to special vehicles for launch. Also they were too slow taking up to 30seconds to reach their maximum range and then they were even too inaccurate.

YouTube

British Pathé

Missile V Tank (1960)

Item title reads - Missile v. tank. The Royal Armoured Corps test out new guided tank destroyer, Lulworth, Dorset. Various shots of tanks driving along and f...

▶ Play video

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Strange it’s almost like early ATGMS were hopeless

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What about another Jap Medium line? I was thinking the Type 74... unless if it is the current TX STB

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huh1

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you got some ideas? @solid gate

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I was looking into the Type 90, but realized it has too much armor (about 305mm upper/lower hull plate), crazy gun ele/dep (+27/-27) and high maximal speed (75 in a few seconds), so I was looking into the Type 74 as of rn

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It would be nice to have the ke-ni and the ke-ho back to add some relevance back into the tree, but I do not know if the company would approve adding a few pre 5.5 tanks back with a few tweaks.

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@solid gate i swear why do people keep wanting or bring up the type 90 here

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Is it ok if I can post a wiki link I found on the type 74?

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the thing is not that the type 90 or 74 is a bad choice but whats between them and the ke ni and ke ho? it would be almost meaningless.

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Guessing it will have to be one or the other?

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no what i mean is even if you put the tier 2 and 3 back into the techtree and have th type 74 as new alternative tier 10, whats the tier 4,5,6,7,8,9

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I would need to do some research on it for sure. I would say adding some new tanks in a near future update for the jap line would be a great idea to grab a lot of attention and interest for the people who play the game.

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At first I thought he was talking about the MbT ones

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 4:42 AM

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We need more japanese TDs E.e

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 4:43 AM

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But really, I don’t think a lot of people would play the Japanese nation with only one researchable line, where other nations have way more than just 10 tanks (not including premiums) and the player base are more inclined to play more often as nations that have bigger tech trees.

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Initially I did thought the type 90 is a great idea for the game, but once I did research on it, I realized it was crazy op If it was to be implemented @solid gate

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@devout tapir Hetzer

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Thats the japanese GuP one

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And the kuro Mori Mine, and the o-47

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and panzer 4

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The anko

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Stick family succs, we need family tree

devout tapir Sep 15, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Japanese TDs now

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Processes like adding brand new tanks takes a while

simple thorn Sep 15, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Mmm ya know on wot console the war stories? What if we have that in blitz. Yes or no ._.

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 6:16 AM

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It would be cool but the mobile status of the game wouldn’t work well with it

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It’s already a few gigabytes large, gotta keep it small

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:27 AM

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So, what is a good armored frontline tank? Hmm?

inland osprey Sep 15, 2019, 7:27 AM

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AT-2

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:28 AM

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25mm of lower side armor, impossible to fight two tanks in slight angles if they know what they’re doing

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Maus should not snipe, because the other teammates won’t do too well without a Maus keeping a line down by sidescraping, get overrun, and boom, the enemies are close range and very dangerous for a silly Maus

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Cupola, rear snag on the sides, and then the 25mm on the lower sides

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The enemy won’t chug in one line against you, they can get your sides if you don’t have much cover

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Slowly

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:31 AM

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If the AT 2 is OP with support, you could say the same with the Maus

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Any wide angle would render it either to retreat or be destroyed

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:32 AM

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I’ve met with good Maus players that will bait shots with their turret and present an extremely hard target to pen

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:32 AM

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What do you mean

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If the AT2 is confronted by two fronts then it can’t use armor on both of them without preventative support

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Ok, they go away and come by the rear since you made them retreat with your definitely invincible tank

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:34 AM

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The Maus is also another frontline tank designed to soak up damage.

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:34 AM

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@violet yarrow you’re missing that Maus is basically an AT-2 as a frontline tank, it can hold the flank itself

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Since you said that mediums can spot a sniping Mauses and should be nerfed, that I find laughable

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:36 AM

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How can you die with such armor at such a distance? Nice argument with your armor

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:36 AM

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The Maus is always about the armor, never the gun or camo. It has the worst camo values in the game.

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Not when it’s angled

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Angles do work, even against prammo if you do it correctly

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Good Maus players will bounce even gold

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That’s why they’re used in tourneys

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With support, they’re extremely hard to dig out

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:39 AM

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If you don’t frontline, you become frontline when the enemy advances past your dead teammates

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 7:39 AM

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Yeah, my IS4 has 340mm pen and bounc it alot @regal zealot

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:40 AM

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My ST-1 has 374mm of HEAT and it’s very red against a good Maus player, one which I met on Canyon near the top right corner, only showing its turret

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:40 AM

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@violet yarrow maybe become more acquainted with the terrain around you

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Umm, it’s not sniping, he was around 100mm away from me lol

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Not to snipe... to hulldown 😒

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Nope, frontline is 0-100m

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:43 AM

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50m is literally where you have to spot an enemy through proximity spotting, 100m is not sniping at all, in fact you’re usually 150-300m from your opponent in a covered standoff

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Sniping is usually done at >220m away

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Maps are 1kmx1km...

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:44 AM

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*500mx500m

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:44 AM

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Ah, yes

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Got hung up in WoT for a moment

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:45 AM

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It’s no use arguing with him

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:45 AM

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Any tank is a snipe tank, but then again, why use it as a snipe tank if you’re spotted? 😂

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Leave the sniping to dedicated sniper TDs/meds.

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Then if you hate getting rekt in your sniper position, don’t snipe at all

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Not OP at all, I’d easily see a huge metal box moving around

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:46 AM

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The Maus has awful camo, so it will always be spotted when in view

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HEAT doesn’t lose pen over distance and will pen a bad Maus driver

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:47 AM

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@violet yarrow then why is being spotted a problem if they can’t harm you?

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Not if you use it right

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Then you can easily bounce shots from 400 meters away with terrain

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What do you mean? That’s 4/5s the length of the map

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There is no way you can’t bounce that because of pen loss over distance and with angled armor plated then it shouldn’t oen

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400/500m x 500m map

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HE is HE, you can use it too can’t you?

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You can’t expect to be the chunkiest tank in the game and expect to be invisible

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Yes they do, so don’t snipe and take cover

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:54 AM

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@plucky summit just don’t bother, he really doesn’t seem to know how to master a Maus

scarlet nest Sep 15, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Fighting as people who don't know how to pen maus is kinda fun

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plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:54 AM

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@scarlet nest frontline, yes?

scarlet nest Sep 15, 2019, 7:55 AM

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That game was 3vs1 and non of them did pen me

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Sidescraping, angling turret, those shenannigans

scarlet nest Sep 15, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Enemy maus just shooting HE to me

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Oh heck nah, you did NOT win that

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Nah, you didn’t.

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Maus. Deserves. To be spotted at any given time it fires, it’s mega huge

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:56 AM

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How on earth is a super heavy with a derpy gun supposed to work as a sniper?

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Maus has bad pen too, worst of the heavies was it? 🤔

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 7:56 AM

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@violet yarrow I’m tired of you spouting nonesense

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Hence why I just kept silent about it, to see how it pans out

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 7:57 AM

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I am providing valid points

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The Maus is huge, camo is bad, if the meds/lights lost their ability to spot, then they’d become somewhat useless, other than a flanking opportunity

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 7:59 AM

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It is pointless talk to MAUS camper.

fast compass Sep 15, 2019, 7:59 AM

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He is going to continue ruining tier 10 games in his maus anyways

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Yes

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@violet yarrow my is4 has 250m without optics and food. My current vision is 280

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:00 AM

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@violet yarrow ok, 1v7 then

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:00 AM

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@violet yarrow

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No

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Maus camping is ruining the game

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Buy an "OP" medium and see its "OP" wiew

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Meds have bad armor so they have to spot U before U spot them

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:02 AM

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It’s not trash talk 🤷‍♂️

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Yeah it isnt

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:04 AM

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In fact, you’re trashtalking the playerbase as your teammates

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:04 AM

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This is the Maus unangled. This is as weak as the Maus’s armor can be frontally

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potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:05 AM

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225 bottom plate, 250 turret

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:05 AM

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The ideal angle to present a Maus when frontlining is like this, in which you’re baiting shots with your turret sides, which are extremely bouncy

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spark basin Sep 15, 2019, 8:06 AM

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oh damn

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Yeah

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:06 AM

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When you’re on a hill, that’s even better. Your nominal armor thickness will be much better, making it extremely hard to pen

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:06 AM

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He runned away

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That boi with camping maus

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:07 AM

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If he thinks his teammates are trash then I guess there’s another reason he’s losing 😒

inland osprey Sep 15, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Whoever recommended me the R35, thanks a lot, it's more OP than I thought lol

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:07 AM

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He knows that he’ll get murdered by facts

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 8:07 AM

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his username speaks for himself

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:07 AM

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I want to 1v1 him in my sta1 rin

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I think I win:D

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:08 AM

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@potent widget use E75 so he can’t pen you at a distance

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:08 AM

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I havent gote75

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:08 AM

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While also kicking his butt in a tier 9

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:09 AM

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In sta i have 275 pen on heat and 219 on AP

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I think I could do that

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Lul, Ima rek his butt in my AMX CDC

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:10 AM

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I love my Rin

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Does anybody know from which anime is that girl on STA from?

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Girls und panzer is my guess

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:11 AM

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No

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Nope, that was Armored Persona, which didn’t take off

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Lul

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Oh

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:12 AM

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STA-1 Rin was the only one when the Armored Persona was announced

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:12 AM

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That camo is wonderful

spark basin Sep 15, 2019, 8:14 AM

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thats really unfortunate, i wanted to see more unique camos like that

surreal haven Sep 15, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Proton Persona as Amoured car 🤔 🤔

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Yeah, I was curious to see how the Armored Persona would pan out

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Dream on lol @surreal haven

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:16 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20190911-160139.jpg

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:16 AM

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That’s the one. Spicy!

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Yes

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Its 5 days old screen

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I have researched type 61 and bought church VII to research VP

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*BP

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:20 AM

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BP’s stronk. It’s just slow, so get the engine first

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 8:20 AM

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i think i am not normal, i actually like the churchill 7 a lot

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:20 AM

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I like all of the Churchill tanks, save for the GC

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 8:21 AM

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gc good sniper, i don't really care about the speed or armor tbh, it's like a nashorn but slower

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Pretty solid armor and good guns, despite the low Alpha of said HTs

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Hi wg, can you please change B1 to AMX 40?

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Naw, B1 has a better armor profile

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:38 AM

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But AMX 40 has troll armor and better gun

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Better gun? No. Also troll armor where

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:38 AM

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On turret

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Why would you shoot the turret? Also B1 has a strong turret

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:39 AM

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And that gun has got better pen and alpha

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And AMX is so cutee!

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:39 AM

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AMX 40 pen was 80 I think, and 120 alpha isn’t worth the 11 second reload when Pz IV D has better pen and 8 sec reload

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Pz IV D has no armor

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:40 AM

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If you want it back you can ask WG through filing a ticket and buying it back for gold, you can do this only once per year though

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Ok change topic

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:40 AM

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K

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I love T-54

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Its best tier 9 i think

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I don’t have the IX gun but it’s nice at times

runic yoke Sep 15, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Yeah

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I want to nerf Smasher and WZ-121 FT

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They are so OP

inland osprey Sep 15, 2019, 9:00 AM

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I'm pretty sure there's no WZ-121 FT

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However, there's a certain Chinese TD called the WZ-120-1 FT

stark sluice Sep 15, 2019, 9:03 AM

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What bothers me it was called WZ-120-1G FT, I don't know when they took away the G

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@inland osprey or am I mad?

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https://wotblitz.com/en/news/event/WZ-120-1G-FT-bundle/

World of Tanks Blitz: an action-packed MMO with PvP battles

The legendary tank shooter. Fight in 7vs7 team battles alone or with friends, research and upgrade armored vehicles, experiment with different tactics and win. Choose a tank and join the battle!

thick trout Sep 15, 2019, 9:08 AM

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That was WGs silent nerf to it 🤣

bright raft Sep 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

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i just looked at win rate per tank on blitz star, and the opiest tank over t6 is the smasher with 57.37% wr, then we have the 252u and the lupus. The first non premium tank is the fv 4004 with 54. 5% wr and the worst one is the panther 2 with 45.28% wr... so we have a 13% wr difference between 2 mid tier tanks in a 5v5 game

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there is a serious lake of balance...

glacial bough Sep 15, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Didn’t know it was a 5v5

bright raft Sep 15, 2019, 10:53 AM

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7v7 mb x), i'm too much playing lol...

thick trout Sep 15, 2019, 10:58 AM

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Premiums generally have a higher WR because they are behind a pay wall and you tend to get better players paying.

bright raft Sep 15, 2019, 11:03 AM

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there is maybe a bit of this, i will try to find stats on the wr of the players buying those tanks

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

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I got the top gun and the top turret for the Jackson! Now um, what are the tips and guide to play it oof

inland osprey Sep 15, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Not sure
It can be a sniper, perhaps?

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 12:11 PM

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I tried using it as sniper but sometimes I have to use it like a watered down medium tank

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It's pretty great but I want to use it to its highest potential

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 12:12 PM

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even better is that it is a turreted td although your turret traverse is so slow that you would have to rely on your hull traverse the whole time if a light tank decide to circle of death you

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the jackson does have a troll turret also ngl

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 12:14 PM

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I managed to block 500 dmg once lmao

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 12:15 PM

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yee 112 mm or something on the front of the turret, which is from the mantle alone

glass crypt Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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~~you're basically a mobile backline support~~

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I try finding a tank to shoot without being shot at and that’s my main strategy with tanks that have low turret traverse

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

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@solid gate it fits the sniper/support medium role.

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Turret can be troll at times, but I wouldn’t rely on it. The gun’s solid and I tend to use it as a pseudo-medium if presented the opportunity.

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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it is basically a more armoured hellcat but is a lot slower

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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And quite a bit more DPM

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

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yeah and one can't be HE easily compare to the other one

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 1:31 PM

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The Hellcat fits an ambush role quite well, with the mobility to relocate.

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Despite both tanks being similar, they are both a whole different kettle of fish

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 1:32 PM

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yup it does, with that speed i think it fit better for being an ambusher rather than a sniper

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one is quite slow and could be play as a medium if uses right, the other however could do the flanking style and couldn't be play as a medium cause the armor is way too weak to be one

potent widget Sep 15, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Yeah, the WG support gave me T18 back!

regal zealot Sep 15, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Nice!

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It's not as OP as it used to be, so have fun with it!

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:23 PM

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which tank in the game has the best concealment value? is it the e 25?

tough dune Sep 15, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Alecto

inland osprey Sep 15, 2019, 3:29 PM

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UE 57?
Not sure

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Batchat with its -1.6 million percent concealment 😂 (older bug)

crude gorge Sep 15, 2019, 3:37 PM

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oh yeah that, if the bug was real the tank would be invisible

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bat chat would be like john cena

lyric oriole Sep 15, 2019, 4:51 PM

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It's Alecto

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Here is a side by side, both have as much camo as possible in game just so you can see the maximum potential

📎 Screenshot_20190915-125303.png 📎 Screenshot_20190915-125315.png

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UE 57 is better on the move, which imo makes it better overall because Alecto is marginally more stealthy while sitting still

hollow moth Sep 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Ohhh boi I'm so agressive with SU-122-44, good tank for rush to smash alone enemies

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In realistic mode with common camouflage I'm like a phantom

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The despair of most tier 6 players

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Big dmg, fast reload, useful armor against tier 6 mediums, heavies, lights or some tier 7 medium tanks, crazy transverse speed, low profile, ok aim time and good terrain crossing capacity

Perfect for realistic battles

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Put that camouflages:
Forest Windbreaker for summer
January frost for winter
Wild Dunes for desert

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And you'll be ~~invisible~~ almost invisible at long range

plucky summit Sep 15, 2019, 5:16 PM

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FV4005 sneeky boi

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Hey guys I need a suggestion

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I just got the leo pt a and im struggling a lot

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Should I go for the gun, the turret or the engine first?

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And please tell me those awful 6 degrees of gun depression will increase with the turret or the top gun

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It doesnt just skip the whole tank

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Oh god no

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Ive seen the pen is great on the top gun but playing it stock is really a pain

lyric oriole Sep 15, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Gun first

narrow shadow Sep 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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General rule is gun first, only some very specific cases get engine / tracks before the gun

dreamy plinth Sep 15, 2019, 6:42 PM

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📎 image0.png

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Do you know this tank ? This is the AMX 13 105

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 7:04 PM

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The hull is very different and that’s a later 90mm gun

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 8:04 PM

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@solid gate English only please

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 8:19 PM

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will be that has the light vic back to the store since I did not know of his existence until a short time ago

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and I can't speak English

tulip sail Sep 15, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Use Google translate and it probably will be back eventually we have no clue when though

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 8:33 PM

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This isn’t M4/Fl10

tulip sail Sep 15, 2019, 9:27 PM

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No but that tank is a ton of fun(m4/fl10)
~~as all m4 variants are~~

sand chasm Sep 15, 2019, 9:50 PM

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@tulip sail

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SO 122 Yugoslav M4 with a 122mm gun

tulip sail Sep 15, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yes we need the M4-SO-122

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Tier 9 Sherman

sand chasm Sep 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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📎 d879c7c-805be950-f39e-4de9-a628-c5251ef4c856.png

solid gate Sep 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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At this point a whole line of tiers can be made for the Sherman lmfao

tulip sail Sep 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I've posted about it prior and I still hold my belief

sand chasm Sep 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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We need the is152