The abrams and leopard 2 can not be added due to how classified there statistics are @runic path
#vehicles-discussion
thick trout
If you want modern tamks there are plenty of other ripoff games to play
runic path
Like which
tulip sail
Aw
thick trout
Idk just search for "tank game" and there will be loads
solid gate
The abrams Hull armor thickness and “prem round” penetration has not been released along with leopard 2 hull armor and penetration
Warthunder made them up and absolutely failed at it
tulip sail
I heard Armoured warfare is good
runic path
It's estimate to be 16 inch steel for Abrams ap round
tulip sail
Estimated is the key word
solid gate
“ Estimated” yet it’s not exact as this can cause misinformation to the enemy
thick trout
3rd game that came up:
solid gate
Armored warfare is good on PC mobile version sucks
thick trout
tulip sail
Wait there is a mobile aw?
runic path
Leopard 2 can be only pen on turret ring
solid gate
armored warfare assault how ever accuracy there is non existent and when you reach level 12 90s tanks cost blue prints to open from crates that only drop 1 piece and cost 200 gold
Leopard 2s ring is also unknown no armor tests or penetration tests on it
runic path
How bout missile
solid gate
Missiles are cancerous and would destroy the game as well
runic path
What U suggest
runic path
Maus the armour is rha steel and we know that is 70 plus years old tech
solid gate
Not modern tanks instead just actually listen to the players
thick trout
The players with slight intelligence*
solid gate
Tanks in the 60s had no armor due to it being rendered pointless
robust dagger
Amx M4 mle 49 or 252u which one is stronger? O:
solid gate
Patton is an exception because murica
glass crypt
tbh, modern tanks literally have paper armor compared to each other, if u haven't noticed, guns have developed faster than armor.
solid gate
Armor has also developed a ton today
runic path
They got du metal armour
solid gate
Only abrams has been confirmed of that^^
runic path
It's not possible to pen without sabot
glass crypt
i said compared to each other, whats the point of having the equivalent of 300mm when ur enemy's gun pens 500?
obv those numbers are just a mere example, but they're accurate enough to get the point across
runic path
Explosive reactive armour
solid gate
What’s the point of having a gun with pen of 500mm yet it’s 30 years old
solid gate
Era is not the best armor anymore
runic path
What is the best
solid gate
If anything it’s possibly the weakest form of add on armor anymore
glass crypt
well, u do hold a good point there, but tthats the same as spaced armor was back then
solid gate
The best form of add on armor right now is composite slabs the leclercs body is all add on titanium armor turret too
solid gate
Cheaper than tungsten which is 4 times stronger than titanium
runic path
Depleted Uranium armour is stronger
solid gate
This hasn’t been confirmed
runic path
Cus no war to confirm
solid gate
While tungsten can hold very well and resist DU is jus theorized to melt the projectile before it normalizes and yes there has been wars to confirm
runic path
No test and they won't scratch the paint work on those tanks
glass crypt
hey i have an idea! lets start ww3
runic path
U start
solid gate
The gulf war early abrams testing and exported abrams models
solid gate
T72 was the only tank they had that could compete
One of the generals in that operation said if we had those T72s we would have won
runic path
But the round went through like butter on t72
solid gate
They were in good positions and that was an early abrams model
Remember an experienced crew member knows how to take out his own tank
runic path
Early ones has composite with base steel
They refubish the Abrams
There's a steel base layer underneath
solid gate
Yes that’s the only declassified abrams
runic path
No wars to confirm round capabilities . Then just make it up like hybrid tanks
Yf t34 an example
solid gate
I’ve said this warthunder tried and failed as it caused heavy imbalance
solid gate
I don’t play warthunder this was said by multiple community contributors and wargaming only added tanks up til the 60s-70s
They know better to not tamper with modern tech in this game
runic path
Lower glasic plate is irritating when others pen u
Is 7 would be better if has more lower plate protection
Almost all tanks have lower plate weak point
solid gate
Would make it OP and unpenetrable
runic path
Then pen is 7 from side
It's irritating to see lower glasic plate pen
Especially when your fuel is there
Then whole tank goes boom
Or either add era armour to lower plate
solid gate
The is7 has broken side armor 🤦 and they will never add ERA keep dreaming this is not warthunder
thick trout
@runic path i suggest you stop suggesting things. None of them make any sense for game balence and none of them will ever be added to blitz
runic path
WW2, 60s tank all have lower plate weak points
runic path
Now all modern tanks are training tanks with no chance of round confirmation
solid gate
That literally doesn’t even make sense
runic path
Is 7 lower plate weak point and every one hates it
solid gate
Because it needs it
solid gate
You don’t see a lot of things
runic path
48 Patton is one of the best
solid gate
It’s a below average med that gets outclassed by every thing
glass crypt
aight to summarize this, removing the front plate weakness is like putting the t26 against t5's
runic path
I dun get u
solid gate
You also don’t get why putting classified tanks at a separate tier is a bad idea
runic path
I dun get what they against t5s
solid gate
Oh boy
thick trout
To summarise even more, stop suggesting things
runic path
T26 against t5s
runic path
Idk which tank u talk about
solid gate
Saying the Is7 should get a lower plate buff is like saying the maus should get a cheek buff
runic path
What t26
solid gate
Your dumb man
runic path
T24e4??
glass crypt
what im saying is, u cant pen the is7's front, yes u can pen its side but its maneuverable enough that u can never get a shot off
solid gate
There’s only Two t26s in the whole game
runic path
Which
solid gate
The Pershing and Super Pershing ...
glass crypt
the t26e4
glass crypt
mate cant u see the problem
glass crypt
its so maneuverable it can always have its front armor facing the enemy
runic path
How bout hidden enemies they can pen it's side
solid gate
Despite the fact it should not be as maneuverable
runic path
Prob for enemy is that they have to stay hidden
glass crypt
here's a better example, an AT2 with no cupola.
runic path
Just work on your hiding skills
runic path
Work on it
solid gate
Don’t need to when I can successfully hit my is7 lowerplate shots and SP cupola hits
glass crypt
have we completely brushed off the original problem?
runic path
Yeah
solid gate
Work on knowing your vehicles weaknesses
runic path
Improve is7 lower plate weak point
solid gate
The fact you just brushed that off
runic path
Then it's semi modern tanks
solid gate
I’m just gonna say your one of those who voted for new consumables
runic path
Just improve lower plate for most tanks will do
glass crypt
what about their guns? it'd be an endless stale mate
solid gate
You completely ignore the concept of balance
runic path
I din't vote for new consumables I just knew it like 5 mins ago
215 b (183) is still can pen
glass crypt
so u want everyone to use that to have a fighting chance against the near invincible is7's?
glass crypt
what about the other t10 tanks? should we just abandon them?
glass crypt
what about those that have bad pen? their only way of fighting back would be to just rush in head first
glass crypt
but what about my fv4202 with only 255mm pen?
glass crypt
also, those big guns hardly do 300 HE dmg, and forget about trying to pen front with ap
runic path
Isu 152 deals average 450 dmg with ap shells
glass crypt
u cant remove something's weakness and not expect others to become obsolete :/
thick trout
@glass crypt i suggest ignoring the troll
runic path
C'mon
glass crypt
i know this is pointless since we both have nothing to lose i just love arguing, its weird just ignore it
thick trout
👍
runic path
152 mm is big gun
But I still think that 180 gun on fv4005 and 183 is the only way to pen increased lower plate
Or for lower tier use the 150 and above guns to pen increased lower plate
glass crypt
well not everything has amazing pen to deal with those
runic path
I hope that one day lower plate won't be a weak point to deal with for most tank . Though still fear the big bore guns
glass crypt
my t23e3 with horrible pen for its tier, i can't pen most things i face unless im aiming at a weakspot
runic path
It can be pen by infantry with 50 cal rifle round it's the worst tank wargaming gave to me
glass crypt
it faces things like tiger P's, kv4's is1/2/3, t29, if those things get buffed it would be over for it
runic path
I'm thinking of selling it but I'm still thinking about selling too
50 cal rifle round can pen t23e3
Its horrible
glass crypt
no im not talkig about the t23, im saying the t23 cant pen its enemies
glass crypt
not everyone wants to waste credits, and its apcr is only 218 at max so a bit of angling kills it
goodnight!
dreamy blade
Pz.Kfw. IV Ausf H as a tier 7 premium. I'd love to see that.
regal zealot
What did I just read?
Wasn’t referring to you tho. I was referring to the long discussion above
It just doesn’t make sense
noble plume
Ok
tulip sail
@dreamy blade why would the panzer iv h be a t7
tulip sail
because the t8 sherman is vastly different then the t5
dreamy blade
A tier 7elc
regal zealot
The tier VIII Sherman is a 105mm Super Sherman, which can be quite competitive in the right hands
The Y5 ELC is a made up tank fyi, so it doesn’t really apply. It has good mobility, low profile and pretty solid DPM for a tier VII med.
As for a tier VII Pz IV, what would it being to the table? Another 75/76mm gun? It doesn’t have the armor or even the mobility to compete with the other meds
dreamy blade
The panther got slower, right? Or is it just me?
regal zealot
That’s considering that the Pz IV H gets a DPM that rivals the other mediums at its tier
tulip sail
the major differences between the panzer iv g and the ausf h is the Schürzen and a few other minor things that wouldn't even make it a viable t6
weak rune
i have a stupid question
even though the Elefant/Ferdinand is a meme tank, is it still reliable when you know how to utilize it?
tulip sail
it can be but the jagd panter 2 is just better at its job
weak rune
oh
regal zealot
It’s just hard to use when bottom tiered or even at same tiers
weak rune
thanks people
regal zealot
Np
weak rune
(I'm on the Pz. IV G and wondering if i do Tiger (P) Ferd would be reliable if I were to get it)
bright folio
The Tiger P is a very good t7 heavy.
plucky robin
is there.a reason the m41 bulldogs turrent doesn't pop off?
I got ammo rekted and killed with 10 hp left and it doesnt pop
raven bridge
american technology
solid gate
No joke a well made turret probably wouldn’t bust off
plucky robin
ya true but in the game
solid gate
That’s just how well the bulldog was made
hollow notch
Or is it how weak the ammo is?
solid gate
The amount of ammo it carries should cause it to just pop
hollow belfry
Does anyone know if the VK 45.02 A will get a turret armor buff? Because the Tiger II is getting an armor buff next update and if you look carefully, the VK and the Tiger II share the same stock and top turrets.
weak rune
No clue
I got KV-2 instead of the VK 30.01 or 28.01 (i cant tell the difference) because i had ~9k xp on it and the 50% exp discount
viral lodge
Black Prince vs Panther vs Challenger line? Due to the 50% research I can get one researched.
Or comet?
hushed shadow
All have decent tier Xs now
E50M is a great tank, Fv4005 is a great tank if you can use it well, Fv215b is a bit broken due to the new consumables/provisions
And FV4202 isn’t a bad tank, but the Cent 7/1 is really good
viral lodge
So in other words they are all decent or good so it doesn’t really matter?
hushed shadow
Depends on what tank you prefer though. Try using YT to figure out which tank line you’ll prefer more
viral lodge
Got it, thanks for the advice.
rigid thunder
I'd recommend going down the panther line - the E50M is really strong, arguably the best tier 10 mt
solid gate
For pubs
E 50 gets HEAT spammed to oblivion in tourneys
If you want a good tourney med go for 140 or STB (although STB grind is incredibly painful)
rigid thunder
All the Japanese tanks that lead to the STB-1 are pretty good, loved the Chi-Ri and Type 61 the most
solid gate
From what I’ve heard type 61 is terrible
rigid thunder
well that's probably from an unreliable source
rigid thunder
It's already been buffed recently, has 3k dpm over the old 2.7k (I think?). Good gun, decent speed and 10 degrees of gun depression
hollow belfry
I love japanese meds
crude gorge
Yes they are quite underrated
hollow belfry
No I love HEing them from the front with my lowe
wanton grove
What you think about lekpz guys?
solid gate
It good
wanton grove
Compare to t49, which better?
hollow mango
Is Revalorise worth buying?
I'm an advanced player, but didn't hear a single word about this tank, can somebody help me?
wanton grove
@hollow mango I don't have it honestly, but I heard it has a great gun, trollish front armour, the side and rear is HE magnet and the standard medium mobility
Yeah super Pershing better
wanton grove
@hollow mango for t49 it really good
But the accuracy suck
And dont expect to get much credit on it
empty crag
And thus the Panther grind begins
tulip sail
@hollow mango personally I love it its got a great gun (I wouldn't mind it having a bit higher alpha to match other 105mms),average mobility, the armour is a bit low but you can still get random bounces it's fun dancing around hills with however it is a bit team reliant and hard to carry in
hollow belfry
@wanton grove is that the 6.3 Tiger II?
Or another tank (sorry the pics are rlly blurry)
frank berry
Tiger 2
glacial crest
how is this even okay?
hollow belfry
Ok I already researched it. I just need to buy it. Löwe intensifies When will 6.3 come out? @frank berry
glacial crest
Nobody apparently knows the updates come out around the 15th or what?
robust dagger
@hollow mango the Revalorisé is a hard to play Tank ^^
left anvil
The Rev is a fairly good tank that rewards highly skilled medium drives. It takes considerable positioning skill to maximize dmg output. Anyone who is not playing well with the American meds will not do well in this tank
eternal crypt
I feel like IS7 got a secret armor buff, for a few matches I noticed I had a harder time penning it and then this WR improvement little too suspicous
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/616341954678226945/a291abca70659e1b0822ba54aab92e3c.png
weak rune
holy
ok i got the KV-2 cuz i was closer to KV-2 than the VK bros
it sucks stock i mean holy guacamole
time to get IS-4 i guess
raven bridge
I dunno why, but it feels like the vk doesnt have much armor even so it does
my only time playing the is5 I easily bounce more shots than the vk
narrow shadow
VK100? cuz the cupola is weak, and the lwoer plate is even weaker. Actually the LFP is so weak even T7 meds with AP can pen it easily even when angled!
raven bridge
i mean i still hide my cupola and lower glaciers
and what I hear is a sizzling sound on the front of my turret and 500 damage taken
i would honestly rather play the is5 if it was just a bit more mobile cause of its reverse side scraping
narrow shadow
You need to angle the turret a bit, but even then HEAT will simply pen u.
raven bridge
I know but it just feels weak
narrow shadow
That is what I'm saying, it is weak and needs buff. Legit the worst T8 heavy tank in the game
raven bridge
debatable
narrow shadow
Which is worse in your opinion?
static kelp
hushed shadow
Unknown. Nothin on that tank
solid gate
I’ll the one who would have trouble counting reload times when the auto reloaders come out
It’s not coming in update 6.4
zealous anchor
I have a dream. That one day centurion action x will come to blitz
tacit sentinel
the amx ac 48 needs a big buff
give it like a 50 degree per sec of track travserse
ancient vigil
I also had a dream, a new japanese map in a desert. Weird.
somber rampart
I have a dream that one day the Ke-Ni 3 sec reload op tank comes back on sale along with the Chi nu kai
torpid jetty
U mean shanobi that's what it's called
somber rampart
It’s also called that when it has its legendary camo applied
thin crystal
Right guys I'm in a dilemma, I'm not in to the American tanks that much except the T20 ,Any way was in a battle with A T110 Andre it shrugged off every thing over its frontal arc,,a few guys used up there golden wonders at it , So should I by pass most yank tanks OR stick on my rout to get the kv4, and is7, and vk72 E100 , opinions pls guys and thanks in advance
rigid thunder
Skip the VK 72.01 K completely
wicked oracle
🤔
solid gate
@thin crystal american tanks always better, is7 and e100 lose their charm if you spam enough freedom shells at it
charred relic
Hey guys,if I want fun what should I choose:Wt Auf Pz IV or T95, thanks
robust dagger
Doomturtle is love. But not easy to play.
charred relic
Ikr but both look awesome and both have derp gun so I think it is hard to choose
@robust dagger Thanks btw
hushed shadow
WT is more fun. T95 goes too slow
charred relic
Thanks
scarlet nest
But if you using that 50% discount
I hope you research T95 cause
T28 IS AWFUL TO GRIND
rotund skiff
@scarlet nest What do you mean? T28 is everything you want in a tank! Turretless, tons of weakspots, paper thin sides/rear, slow speed and tank traverse, virtually zero gun depression, and a gun that, while decent, really isn't worth it! Plus, it's also super ugly!
scarlet nest
@charred relic ^^
tulip sail
The proto has a turret the t28 doesn't
clear jasper
charred relic
@rotund skiff LMAO
@scarlet nestYES IT IS BAD
I have proto too,last time I got circle by a t49 then I realized my turret can't turn 360 degrees...😭
Thanks guys
dim sail
Yes I've already gridned enough for t28 to get t95 at half price
Worst tank in t8 ,total crap,and btw the proto is actually decent bullies all the is's
robust dagger
The T28 need a big buff, or remove it from the Tech Tree.
For me the T28 is the worst Tank in Blitz. :x
valid lodge
I'm planning to use the 50% off cert to skip the rest of the T28 aswell. The guns fine but a better engine or armor would be lovely
sleek compass
AMX 30b really need gun handling buff...
STB have more gun handling and much better turret armor
rough bolt
did the black prince change cuz tanks can shoot me with ease
charred relic
@robust daggerIdk why but the model of t28 isn't the historical model of t95/28
And I can't find the model that blitz is using now...
P.s. Historical model
kind shoal
@valid lodge but when skipping the T28 research the 120mm
You use it on the T95
Thank me later
crude gorge
Also remember the engine or else
charred relic
Thanks!
solid gate
The T28/T95 are the same tank
The T95 is just an upgrade for another set of tracks to support its weight
elfin orbit
T95 is 1000x scarier to discover tho
bright folio
^
elfin orbit
When you see t28 youre just like oh its a td. When you spot t95 you go oy vey its a t95.
bright folio
Unless you have a borsig or ISU-152. Then you shoot one straight through their front.
crude gorge
T95 is scary if there are multiple tanks support it
elfin orbit
Problem is t95 usually has a gun bigger than or just as big as yours
What doctor bright said that makes it a massive problem when supported
crude gorge
Well not really, I mean support like some tanks is behind it in case if a light tank somehow try to circle of death the t95
Which happens a lot
elfin orbit
Yeah, usually teams arent so good as to stick with t95
bright folio
A t95 plus a medium is a pretty deadly combo.
elfin orbit
Inb4 is7/t95 platoon
bright folio
At least they won't get into t8 matches.
elfin orbit
Hee
crude gorge
The e3 armor is trollish
elfin orbit
cough cupola cough
bright folio
I hate that cupola.
crude gorge
Super stronk cupola
elfin orbit
The thing can lolbounce fully aimed shots
bright folio
Had to try and win a 1v2 in my E 75 against an E3 and Obj 704. Gave that guy so much blocked dmg while he was at 260 hp.
*The E3^
Such a troll cupola.
bright folio
The Obj wasn't the problem. He was camping at the back of mines.
bright folio
Nope. Was pinned between the E3 on the hill and the Obj on the camping spot at the north spawn. Was on 100-some hp, and the obj was full heath. The e3 couldn't get the gun down while I was looking at him, but I couldn't move up without getting shot by one or the other.
I just kind of sat there and intimidated the e3 until the red team convinced the obj to move up.
solid gate
You guys what about a T95 defender ??.wg could give as choice to next defender=)
elfin meadow
What did y’all put your Real Fighter camo on from the realistic battles event?
I put mine on my toaster lol
No joke
solid gate
I put it on the FV4005
elfin meadow
That’s what I thought a lot of people would do
bright folio
I put mine on the bromwell
robust dagger
@charred relic is just a T28/T95 without the second Tracks.
wicked oracle
Put it on the E3, hopefully they bring it back as the realistic battles reward. Great camo
ancient vigil
I put my real fighter camo on my panzer IV G
crisp gust
Give back T95/Chieftain and 121B back to shop. Please
hushed shadow
Someday they will
bronze cobalt
I hope we get some polish heavies in later updates too
Like ik we are gettin a pl t2+3 but id like a branch to tier 10 from each nation apart from finland bc thats the t1
And i put that camo on my kv3
solid gate
@bronze cobalt please make your username English. Thanks
bronze cobalt
Wha... seriously
solid gate
Yes
bronze cobalt
I had this username for quite a while and i never got told to change it on this server
Is this a new rule?
solid gate
This is the English server. We shouldn't have to run usernames through a translator. Please change it
solid gate
That works. Thanks
bronze cobalt
Its not got the same appeal to it anymore
My profile pic is litterally a kv2 covered in vodka bottles
Sad slav noises
fleet berryBOT
СЛАВЯНСКИЙ ЦАРЬ#6626 has been warned.
proven folio
Just bought VK 28 and why doesnt it have HE?
sullen bobcat
Did you try to upgrade your gun maybe?
solid gate
i remember the tier 5 VK 30.01 H (the collectable one) has the top gun with only AP and APCR, probably the light one can mount it too, you trade your HE with high pen (157 if i'm not mistaken)
solid gate
however the VK 28.01 is a bit overpower, i'd nerf the dpm and turret front armor
calm inlet
it already was nerfed
solid gate
recently?
calm inlet
eh, a while ago
solid gate
oke
A long time ago it used to be the second fastest tank ingame before the T49 and bulldog showed up
faint iron
It was faster than the two before it got nerfed. Drac and RU were both a bit faster in top speed post nerf though
lethal oar
New to the game, is the Matilda hot garbage?
limber aurora
rotund skiff
The Matilda at Tier 4 is an effective sealclubber if you can use it correctly, but it has trouble at Tier 5 due to its pen. The Matilda BP and others are really not anything special
thin crystal
Any one played the K91 yet ? Just fought one and it's one evil lil bugger ,thanks
solid gate
I need help... the event 59? Or the M4A1 REV? which is more worth collecting?
narrow shadow
Event 59 seems to be the better tank by quite a lot. M4's isn't what it should be
But I have played neither, idk.
From my experience, especially in hulldown event 59 is strong , despite the cupola. If he stays mid range, it's difficult to hit, and even then it can produce a troll bounce.
turbid mantle
^^ its a good tank, but really not worth it in the event you have to grind for it. Just wait for a few months when they put it in the store for 9k gold with equipment and such. While i have never played the rev, it seems more of a td than a med, a peak a boom tank with low alpha.
narrow shadow
Actually, if you play some games, you get ok discount on the event 59, so if you really want one of those 2 tanks, 59 will even be cheaper than M4
turbid mantle
True, but i dont think you get all the equipment slots unlocked for the 59, which can be a pain if you dont have the credits, so personally id wait. And you typically get a camo with the tank in the new bundles, so camo, plus equipments slots plus tank for like 9-10k, ill take it then. But if you really just want to collect the tank on the spot, by all means do it.
narrow shadow
Dude, equipment for gold or even real money is the biggest scam ever, the gold to creds exchange rate is super bad, and it's not that expensive to equip a T8 tank
hollow belfry
@narrow shadow If you have a Löwe, it will take a few hours (once farmed 5m credits in 6-7hrs)
narrow shadow
I have AMX M4, T34 and T34-85 Victory for credits😏 . Been spamming the M4 now and made huge amounts of credits
turbid mantle
I use my T34 for creds, its does a decent enough job. I wish i had a lowe tho
rancid mauve
I’m getting sick of people not supporting super heavies. If I take a post-up position, get behind me!!!!🙄🙄🙄
brisk badger
@narrow shadow M4 49?
narrow shadow
Yeah, M4 49 @brisk badger
brisk badger
A lovely tank
solid gate
STB-1 is op?
Bring back some of the cool tanks... give the rest of us a chance to get them...
T28 defender
Is3 defender
Helsing
Gravedigger
Scavenger
Dracula
The list of tanks goes on... we feel very left out... :'(
tulip sail
Wasnt it like 10 or 15 battles played not even won
inland osprey
Win 50 battles
solid gate
I sold the scavenger. Wasn't impressed at all by it
crude gorge
Scavenger is overall meh, the only thing is that it can do is making credits as a tier v collector but that’s about it it’s a pretty average tier v
inland osprey
I think it's pretty fun with the 90mm
crude gorge
Yeah but that gun lacks penetration
inland osprey
HEAT is enough to go through a lot of tanks, maybe even some tier 6
crude gorge
I guess so
inland osprey
Mmm
Overall, a fun tank
Maybe not ideal, but fun
crude gorge
Personally I find the pz v/iv the better tank just because it is fast and it can ram into things and deal a lot of damage, it’s just that the traverse kinda sucks
tulip sail
Tbh I didn't really enjoy the panzer v/iv I found theres other t5s I have alot more fun in like the ac ,ram, or m4
solid gate
M4 is the only tech tree tier V I still have in my garage. Great tank.
crude gorge
I find the pz iv g have some mildly trollish armor, I have 4 steel walls with that tank
tulip sail
Lol yeah it makes no sense hit I wont complain
elfin orbit
Why no love for amx elc
crude gorge
Amx elc is good, just don’t get to close to a kv2 and don’t remain stationary all the time
elfin orbit
Why not just sidehug
Until you hit a slope*
Learnt that the hard way
I dont wanna take mine out anymore because ive clocked 420 battles in it with a 69% winrate
crude gorge
Nice
elfin orbit
Nice
rigid thunder
Nice
crude gorge
Ok so this isn’t a reddit thread so we shouldn’t try to spam nice
elfin orbit
Ok boss
limber dawn
fiery crown
I couldn't understand ine thing how come elc doesn't have best camo stats in the game
Or atleast even second to E25
hollow belfry
Bois, I wanna ask a question
sinful pivot
sure @hollow belfry
hollow belfry
4 aces today, 1800 avg. dmg and 66% wr, is that good for a VK 45.02 a?
onyx coral
What is the general consensus on the Type 61 ?
hollow belfry
@onyx coral Good gun, bad armor, ok speed
onyx coral
Yeah but in general.. good tank to play or useless given its contemporaries?
hollow belfry
Seeing other t9 meds, you will suffer.
restive sparrow
Is it me only or did the Ferdinand get a buff?
hollow belfry
@restive sparrow I think it got an HP buff
hollow moth
"Pracinha" walker bulldog? Huuuum latins are waiting it for blitz, war gaming
"A cobra vai fumar" (the snake will smoke, it's a phrase of our army at ww2 in Italy)
No one can say it's a bad idea, it's only a modified premium bulldog, the bulldog was a great tank on our army and important too, Brazil made tanks based in that boi, at war we fighted untill the death (like our 2 smoaking snakes heroes), we conquered mountains when U.S.A. was needing us and we made a lot of important things at Italy in ww2
The brazilian walker bulldog in game will call come latins for the game
And it's the wet dreams of all brazilian at this game
Modified with different modules like the engine, cool skin, historic, etc
calm inlet
interesting
solid gate
I’d like consoles tracers and gun recoil here
carmine crow
Which gun is better on the Su-152?
rigid thunder
the stock gun
crude gorge
Stock gun because high damage
bright folio
On paper, the top 122mm is better. In practice, the 152 is more fun and generally better to play with.
golden birch
^^^
solid gate
it's called SU-152 for a reason
nova solar
Brazilian bulldog? Is this going into something like IS familiy. Whats next? Ugandan bulldog?
bright folio
And the SU-100 isn’t called the SU-122p, but people use the 122 anyway.
solid gate
Wait, wasn’t there a Japanese bulldog that was historically accurate?
bright folio
2, currently.
nova solar
Irl of course
solid gate
As in variants?
nova solar
Yuuuuus
zinc condor
more than 3
bright folio
Irl? There weren’t that many different models made, but they got sold to various countries.
solid gate
the standard bulldog isn't too good
nova solar
Hi am VK in germany,every 30 seconds half a minute passes we must stop this
solid gate
It was gifts to various nations by the USA after ww2
neat nimbus
should get it? or stay light french line
flint eagle
Get both. Good line
regal zealot
Both are solid. The tank after this, the ARL 44 is a very good HT in the right hands
inland osprey
^
Maybe not the best, but one of the best in tier 6.
eager ravine
BDR is one of my favourite tanks. Quite good to play.👌
Plus check unicum guide for BDR G1 at youtube. Is for WOT games but is very fun video to watch. Vive la france! 🥐
narrow shadow
BDR is terrible, weak armour, huge cupola so peeking over any ridge means enemy will shoot you long before you see him. Furthermore, the armour is weak, speed is horrible and the only thing going for it is alpha damage. Even the gun handling sucks
wise valley
French Heavy tanks guns carry over to high tier French light tanks so go both lines
For some odd reason
hollow moth
AMX 50 B is a heavy without armor in the huge turret XD
I killed 3 of these guys yesterday
robust dagger
All about burst.
bright folio
Unpopular opinion: French guns are underrated
inland osprey
The guns themselves ain't that good
But the clip
Oh boy, the clip
frosty storm
When will people understand the French HTs are medium tanks?
karmic basin
im just thinking marks (to the gun barrel) would be a great edition to the game and the best thing: they are visible on battles much better tha ace tankers 🙂
proven folio
how about ading the portugese M5 from angola? sort of a funny collectors tank
lethal oar
New to the game, what’s the consensus on the crusader and Sherman Firefly?
narrow shadow
When I played Crusader, it was pretty good, nice spam gun, decent dpm and good camo. Firefly is bad, I've never seen it do well in a game
flint eagle
Thoughts on su100y?
crude gorge
Decent tank destroyer, good alpha, nice penetration
Sometimes shots from enemy tanks hit your gun mantle because your gun mantle is so big compare to other tanks
crude gorge
It’s just that it took around 15 seconds to reload
elfin orbit
Who said anything about reloading? The weight is a weapon in itself
flint eagle
Ok, so gun is like a non-nerfed kv2 with better pen?
Got a 20% off thing.
Doh, waited too long. It’s gone. Next time
crude gorge
It’s like a kv2 with less damage, more pen, turretless with less armour and more manoeuvrable I guess
rancid mauve
SU-100Y is a beast! Just load up the premium AP shells and drop 500+ damage shots to tier 5/6 tanks lol
crude gorge
Some premium rounds to do more damage
rancid mauve
Yeah plus it has 171mm pen on its premium AP round which is just fantastic and works well for for tier 6. Some tier 7 heavys required the regular AP round but that’s to be expected
crude gorge
Unlike most tanks, this tank has the better penetration on its standard round but will deal less damage compare to its premium round
golden birch
I think it’s too big to be effective too many areas to shoot
narrow shadow
Crazy HEAT, otherwise great tank too, so definitely on the strong side
hollow moth
Ohhhh boy i started the game in the wrong age
Vindi UM...
I was needing to test drive it
graceful ravine
Today a player aggressively said in global chat that kill MT25
And I was already dead
weak rune
should i stick with the derp gun or 107mm with the KV-2
hollow belfry
@weak rune 152 for derp and fun, 107 for efficiency.
weak rune
ty
tulip sail
So what's y'alls guilty pleasure tank (one you might not be good in but love playing
flint eagle
For me ferd>jp2 for win rate
frigid compass
i love the tiger p
tulip sail
For me its definitely the m4a1 rev I'm not the best in it but puts so much fun to play
solid gate
Is best Sherman
tulip sail
Nah tier per tier e8 is
robust dagger
But the Revalorisé need a alpha buff >^<
tulip sail
Its doesn't need one but it wouldn't be objected
solid gate
Revolver is best Sherman
tulip sail
X to doubt
hollow moth
I don't have this sherman but looks it needs a buff in alpha or in reload
My pz 4 s have more dpm
neat nimbus
Also I think I grind for maus
E100 well I heard has good gun but armor yeah something I don't like at all
raven jacinth
it's flat
solid gate
I'd take the e 100
dim sail
T110e4 is better in every way
hybrid gull
t55a is a russian german developed tank rite
during like iron curtain era or something
tulip sail
The t20 was quite fun back when I grinded it
hybrid gull
traverse could be a tad bit better
tulip sail
Tbh I cant say say for sure it's been since update 3.4 that I've played
hollow moth
@tulip sail oops i saw the tank without equipments and provisions, but the pz 4 were will all of this
But 1940 dpm (without equipments and provisions) for a tier 8 is meeeh
My rudy without equipments and provisions have more dpm than m4 revolver with all of this
wise valley
1903 dpm with equipment vk 100 p be like 👀
tulip sail
The rev has 2054 without equipment
hollow moth
Nope, here the game is showing 1940
tawny flame
Fellas
Is Conway worth getting? What are its pros and cons, and what are your experiences with it?
tulip sail
Hmm strange blitzstars states 2054
And about the Rudy it does have more dpm than most other meds at t7 aswell as t8s
neat nimbus
well i bought it
neat nimbus
yes
devout tapir
What's E50ms prem ammo? Also, what's its standard ammo?
hollow moth
@devout tapir the E 50's prammo is a HEAT and the standard ammo is an APCR
devout tapir
Ah alright thanks
hollow moth
A detail, that APCR doesn't cost gold or is too expensive, only prammo cost gold and it's ultra expensive @devout tapir
tulip sail
or buy prammo with credits
hollow moth
Yep, but it's expensive
devout tapir
I usally don't use prammo unless I need to make sure it has to pen.
hollow moth
You'll need prammo if you want E 50M
245 mm pen the APCR does
And the HEAT make 300mm of pen
devout tapir
245mm is pretty solid for a med imo. I can make that work easy
If I can pen the front of T10 tanks with a T9 med, I can make it work easy
hollow moth
Well i have only TD for tier X, but who have a lot of experience in mediums, 245 is pretty good
I prefer always take something with huge pen, but for flanking 245 is ok
devout tapir
Plus, E50ms gun is pretty accurate, I can aim at weak spots easily
quasi mirage
e50m gun has horrible accuracy for a tier X med, Sure the final accuracy is good but you always have to be moving a bit or something to keep the e50m armor effective and the e50m has the worst bloom of any tier X med besides the 121 which has the god tier aim time.
glass otter
Yet I wanna ask AGAIN how to play T57
solid gate
You don’t you learn
hollow moth
@glass otter like a normal heavy tank
Hull down, administrate the ammo and the clip, be carefully with TDs, don't rush
fierce zephyr
Is the t110E5 any good?
devout tapir
Yes
crude gorge
If you find a hill
devout tapir
Use that gun depression and you will be fine
fierce zephyr
Or should I try for the t57??
undone ravine
T11 in my opinion
gilded pike
Is this true?
undone ravine
@gilded pike whats that app
gilded pike
Armour inspector
gilded pike
T54 has 120mm not 160mm
hollow moth
That's why i don't trust in most of the armor inspectors
wise valley
Wot blitz hanger seems to be decent
scarlet nest
Nice event <3
zealous anchor
T_T I have no tier X to research
dim sail
Amx 50 b for me
devout tapir
I wish those certificates didn't disappear after a week
crude gorge
I wish they were permanent, just like the last one
restive sparrow
Is the e 75 a good tank?
weak rune
idk
restive sparrow
How about tiger 2?
crude gorge
Tiger 2 is probably going to be good in the next update
restive sparrow
How so
crude gorge
It going to receive an armor buff
crude gorge
The turret it seems like
restive sparrow
Bruh
crude gorge
Probably something like this
restive sparrow
Crap, shouldn't have sold it
crude gorge
Yee, seems like it gonna be good in the next patch
restive sparrow
How about tiger 1?
Will it get better?
crude gorge
I think it will still be the same
crude gorge
I don't think so, when 6.3 arrive I have heard that they will add the new consumables and provisions for the American heavy line
Now of course those consumables and provisions are the one that the British heavy line currently have
restive sparrow
Looks like I need to rebuy the tiger 2
Well, not like alot of German tanks are good ingame
rain folio
I hope the Obj.704 gun will be buff
Cause the dispersion of it is way to high
Can’t aim anything correct at the range of 250 and above
narrow shadow
@restive sparrow VK3601 is getting a massive buff too. 145mm front, 80mm side and massively improved mantlet.
devout tapir
Umm ok lol
restive sparrow
St emil is hella good for its tier
narrow shadow
No, it is not
restive sparrow
Rhm borsig WT is trash in comparison
crude gorge
I don't have the Borsig yet but I have heard that it's very mobile and have great camo values
restive sparrow
I'm finna done with the borsig's armor profile. It's camo isn't even that good.
Oh, and HE shells ruins everything in the borsig's game
crude gorge
I agree that you can HE the tank very easily but in return you can get a gun that has great alpha and great HEAT pen on the top gun
restive sparrow
How do people have the audacity to say it's a good tank? It's 12.8 cm gun is better than it's 15 cm gun. That says a lot because even the 12.8 cm gun is only sometimes on par with its tier performance.
It's basically a tryhard su 152 which failed its armor tests
.
Anyways, it's nice to know vk36.01 is getting a buff, too bad the tiger 1 isn't.
left anvil
And then I peek out behind my heavys and peepabomb you in the face and their isn’t diddleshit you can do about it 🤣
restive sparrow
What
narrow shadow
Lol it's not good it's getting a buff, same for Tiger 2. Those tanks were fine before, now they'll be crazy OP if the changes stay the same
restive sparrow
Still ok
I wouldn't mind
rancid mauve
Borsig not good?? 😂😂 the big boi gun is fantastic! Nothing like dropping the hammer on meds and the camo on it is just fun. Has a turret and is mobile enough to not be left behind. High risk, high reward imo.
One of my favorite TDs to play for fun
restive sparrow
Cough HIGH risk Cough
What where those German engineers smoking when they thought of the rhm borsig. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking. 🤔
narrow shadow
Have you ever played the game and got a game without TDs? And somehow the game felt more dynamic? Tanks not being afraid to peek, as there is no big gun waiting in the bush on spawn? Yeah me too.. sometimes I wish there was a mode with no TDs allowed
restive sparrow
No, ever heard about your tank spotted by the whole enemy team at once? Cause that's worse
crude gorge
Happened to me once in my SU-100Y
restive sparrow
There
narrow shadow
That's a situation you only get in when playing badly, you can't evade every spawn bush and still play actively
narrow shadow
That's what I call those spots 20m away from spawn. Think of canals' hills
restive sparrow
Anyways, are there any other German tanks you recommend playing?
I'm bored as hell grinding credits and experience for new tanks
regal zealot
SP 1 C’s kinda fun to play
narrow shadow
Soviet meds. Legit all of them T5-T10 are good, and with their armour and mobility, they are capable of very aggresive plays
restive sparrow
T 44 made me sell all my Soviet tanks and start my German tank career
Feelsbadman
Actually, that's a good thing
pearl quiver
All your Soviet tanks, ouch. Have you tried the heavies though? Both lines are good for the most part, even though you may find a couple bad ones.
narrow shadow
Wtf, t44 is my baby, it's a great tank. I have nearly 2.5k avg dmg in it and about 800 battles😂
hollow notch
Lol
restive sparrow
When I mean all Soviet tanks, I mean ALL Soviet tanks. Soviet heavies aren't even that good@pearl quiver
I sold my t 44 after 12 battles @narrow shadow
Oh, and I lost 10 of 12 battles in my t 44 FYI
Anything else to add?
No
pearl quiver
If you're looking for just German tanks, the E100 and E75 are great, speaking from my experience. The E 50 M is not bad either.
restive sparrow
E75 for me was a slap to the face in grinding out German heavies. Ouch. At least I kept my tiger 1 after all this time.
I'll get my tiger 2 back eventually
narrow shadow
Of course T44 is bad when stock. Top it is a beast
solid gate
Fv4005 or Foch 155? 🤔 can’t decide...
inland osprey
Both are kinda OP
Your choice
scarlet nest
Foch looks like more easier one
FV is kinda glass cannon
ember atlas
Kv2 suchs. HE gets more often low dmg.
raven jacinth
stop playing KV-2 than
glass crypt
or just spam AP like an intellectual
crude gorge
or just use the 107mm instead
zealous anchor
Or sell it XD
hollow moth
Bruh no one use 107mm gun and AP have low pen, after nerf, kv-2 is weak
bright folio
@hollow moth the 107 is actually a good gun.
hollow moth
But most of people just use kv-2 for derp
bright folio
The 107mm on the kv2 is like the 122mm on the su 152. A better gun that isn’t used.
hollow moth
Because everyone prefers hit kills
Bruh
And SU-152 was made for 152mm cannon, it's in the name
It's like use 122mm gun in ISU-152, you can, but if you find a tier 8 light tank, you dead
wicked hamlet
What should i pick with the 50% Disc. ?
Foch 155 or AMX 50 B
Atm i'm more than a half way to AMX 50 B, let's say about 63K xp/106K xp
With the 50% Disc*
crude gorge
Foch 155 because the auto loader
wicked hamlet
hhmm, the problem is, i'm on the tier 8 of the French's TD
crude gorge
How close are you to the normal Foch? The one without 155
If you can’t catch up to the Foch 155 in a week then yeah maybe amx 50b
wicked hamlet
Atm i just researched AMX AC 48
Collecting some credits, and free exp, with premium acc
Haven't buy it though
crude gorge
Did you use your tier 9 certificate yet?
crude gorge
I mean you could get to it, if you have enough determination to play for several hours in the same tank then yeah you could get it, get some boosters to boost your progress
wicked hamlet
hhmm i see
crude gorge
Playing the normal Foch without the top engine is a bit frustrating
So you know what, maybe you should just buy the amx 50b
wicked hamlet
aight then
It's a no problem anyway since i got the AMX-50-120 full researched modules
Since it's got the same engine
Just need to research the suspension of the Foch
crude gorge
Ok
wicked hamlet
The first motivation/the need that i want to research the french TD is just the engine comes the same as the heavies, and what makes me more to grind it, it's the Foch 155
wicked hamlet
Should i just straight free xp and some xp earned from AMX AC 48 or research the suspension first and then straight free exp the 120mm SA46 ?
stable oyster
Any tipps and or builds for the FV 4005?
formal dagger
What do you think about the KV1 ?
bright folio
What’s the best IS-series tank for its tier?
crude gorge
I would say is-3
coral orchid
What is better choice E50M or Leopard 1?
wicked hamlet
E-50M is playing with armour, it's bouncy
bright folio
@coral orchid it depends on what you like in a tank.
hollow belfry
E50M for ramming and armor, leo has better gun and mobility
crude gorge
^
hollow belfry
Well, what about a panther II buff?
crude gorge
Seems like a great idea
hollow moth
Lol a weird vk can be a panther II counter
hollow belfry
@hollow moth VK is a murder for every T7-T8 light/med.
hollow belfry
While the pen was just buffed?
hollow moth
The pen is average for the tier, but that reload looks too much
It's a heavy tank, not a TD
And buff the panther II speed
hollow belfry
Yes for speed buff
azure creek
If i am right, STB-1 will be buffed? Because i heard rumors
hollow belfry
@azure creek It was buffed last update but i didn't heard anything about a 2nd buff in 6.3
azure creek
Owh, ty fam for info. @hollow belfry
hollow belfry
I love AT-2
crude gorge
The only good at in the 183 line
hollow belfry
@crude gorge well I love then when i'm playing my death toaster
crude gorge
Yeah, at-2 is a bait for paper German tds
Same for the su 100y who will eat almost all of your health in 1 shot
hollow belfry
Just look at the enemy team b4 battle and adapt ur playstyle...
If there are derps, play it carefully, not hard to do
crude gorge
Yep I always do that, I sold the thing though
rancid mauve
Oohh okay. I didn’t even bother with those. Although I did have the tier 5 AT just to bully tier 5s with lol
crude gorge
Yee, fun tank if you are top tier
hollow belfry
If you are top tier... makes 50% of ur battles in it absolute garbage
crude gorge
There’s no need because most players at tier V doesn’t know how to play yet so they ruin your game later on anyways
hollow moth
Badger need nerf
I saw one of this boy, was a rich noob kid who stole mom's credit card and bought the boxes
And i was needing for spam HEAT to pen that
Ohhhh and nerf smasher too
The both are OP credit card tanks
solid fractal
@hollow moth lmao. Yes shoot him when it's in hulldown next time too and complain
hollow moth
I don't need HEAT for shoot Foch, i don't need HEAT for shoot T110E3 or 4, i don't need HEAT for shoot a jageroo, no need for russian TD's and chinese tier 10 TD Copy
All of then are tank destroyers with great armor and no need for a prammo, only badger needs
Put it like foch armor, not like a WZ-120 + some weird numbers for other weird tier 7 (who is another OP tank)
It's simple, war gaming make OP tanks for get more money, i have nothing for complaint about micro transactions... no there is three types of micro transactions who need to be deleted
P2w, pay to maybe win and loot boxes
And that tanks are of this type of sells
rancid mauve
Yeah well OP is fun so🤷🏻♂️
And WG is a business so businesses do what businesses do... make profit!😂
Nothing like smacking tanks with derp and watching them regret poking out lol
thick sable
So using these half off certificates I am able to skip the AT-15, and if I can scrape up like 17k tank xp in a week on the tortoise that's all I need to get the deathstar. I have 130k free XP currently and because I have the charioteer and the Conway was just researched this morning, I don't need to play the stock tortoise, so should I grind the tortoise for 17k and use the half off certificate? I'm not a fan of the slow playstyle they have to offer from tier 5-9, but since I like the charioteer I'm more than likely going to like the deathstar
Or is it not worth it, I mean I don't really like playing anything in tier 9 a lot
rancid mauve
Grind what you have to grind then just Free XP to get the Deathstar. No sense in playing it if you don’t like because you’ll just frustrate yourself.
17k won’t take long to get really
solid gate
Ahh yes nerf a tank that’s meant to go hull down @hollow moth
hollow moth
When a TD with 300mm pen need a HEAT for pen a guy?
Bruh it's an op credit card tank
Most of tanks just can't pen the tank, with normal ammo or prammo
U need to hull down when you use jadtiger and there is a weakspot
Same for T29, for some heavy tanks, when that tank don't have a weakspot, it has low gun depression so hull down will be harder
But playing with a heavy tier 10 tank and see that, you dead
solid gate
@hollow moth First thing don’t engage it from the front and it has poor traverse and wide chassis
what do you mean about it ?
fleet berryBOT
Okonisko2(Bartosz)#0854 has been warned.
solid gate
false or thru
rancid mauve
?????
solid gate
Ok, maybe toning it down may be a better ideal lmao
@solid gate if yourthinking of adding it no
But seriously, there is only 1 line of Japanese tanks on the mobile version. Before the 5.5 update there were two extra tanks and the one line before they removed the ke-ni and the ke-ho during 5.5. Then the Chinese now have two extra lines (the heavy and td lines). Why no Type 5 superheavy line? If WG just add new nations and new lines for the nations... then why bother even having one line for the Jap Tech in the first place? 😒
empty crag
LTTB with top gun or nah?
solid gate
@solid gate Japanese heavies would be impossible to transfer to here the Maus has to be downsized and the E100 barely compares
forest bloom
Big question as to why the new line will be many European nations together?
solid gate
Save time and space
mighty glade
Yeah
solid gate
@empty crag. Second gun is better
empty crag
Because of the gun depression.. I'm guessing? @solid gate
unique canyon
@forest bloom 'cuz wg wanna minimize low tiers
For some reason
stark scarab
What line should I go with the panther line or leopard line I got 22 hours to figure it out from what I see they are both bad but the high tier tanks in the lines are pretty good
rotund skiff
@stark scarab Panther or leopard line? i'm assuming you mean e50m vs. leo line, and i would go e50m
stark scarab
Yes I have the tier 6 I hear good things about both the leopard and E50 lines the leopard just has no armor thanks for the feedback I think I’ll grind up e 50 line
upper solar
Should I sell my Jpanther to get this VK?
stark scarab
A made up Chinese tank when there are so many other countries tanks that are left out and the objects are just a pain like all Soviet tanks
Roblox I don’t know I just moving up that German line I’m leaning towards the E50 line I like both in enuf time I’ll get both
Thanks meme-strats for the advice
wise valley
No that’s not worth to sell the jpanther @upper solar
crude gorge
That tank is quite mediocre, get the panther instead
The panther gives you the top long gun which provides great penetration and a good dpm
civic fiber
Buff T-32, it's so bad. Just look at super-op premiums like WZ-120 1G FT, OBJ 252 U. Wth is that tank even supposed be?
crude gorge
I agree, we need to buff the t32 gun
wise valley
It really just needs a 15mm standard pen buff to be viable
And maybe some soft gun stats for better weakspot aiming
crude gorge
It needs better accuracy tbh
wise valley
And the pen cause u just end up in situations where it’s a 200mm shot but that 198 rng tho
Happens a lot to me on pc
crude gorge
I have heard that the t110e5 line is very bad on pc, they say the only tank that is worth getting is the t29
raven jacinth
it got it's cupola back after one update
wise valley
The good cupola is back?
raven jacinth
after having the cupola removed lol
wise valley
It used to have like a 250mm cupola a while back before they nerfed it
raven jacinth
removed cupola didn't even last 2 updates
wise valley
But yeah given my experience on the line, tier 5-6 are fun to troll with but tier 7 is the only worth
I use the t32 sheerly out of love of hull down and outplaying people
crude gorge
I prefer the t34 over the t32 simply because it is a lot more accurate and very good pen
hollow belfry
T32 has only turret and gun depression. Nothing more
crude gorge
The t34 just have less armor but that’s about it
wise valley
Imagine if they just randomly buffed the t32’s mobility into a medium for a week
I wonder how weird it would get
olive sky
that wouldn't be surprising considering that it's the balance team we're talking about here
hollow belfry
If you want a fast heavy I got this
olive sky
Tiger 2 in 6.3 gonna be ebic
wise valley
Considering there’s a shit ton of hull down mediums already this is just he cherry on top I guess
What’s the armor buff I heard it’s upper plate and sides
crude gorge
Tiger 2 looks scary already in the next update
hollow belfry
And front turret
olive sky
front armor basically requires 230+mm of pen to go thru
hollow belfry
220 mm I think for the front turret
crude gorge
Is5 apcr can’t really penetrate through it frontally
hollow belfry
Yes
wise valley
Oh god yes my tiger 🐯 going be so fun, tho the tiger 2 also has decent mobility too and good side scrapping that’s going to be scary for tier 7s
crude gorge
Yeah that one
hollow belfry
I already got the top turret yesterday
crude gorge
Tiger 2 is now looking scarier than vk 100
wise valley
Okay that lower plate tho should be weak tho standard german weakness
Even tho I would enjoy it, for balance reasons that should remain pennable
hollow belfry
Guess what it will be with improved armor equipment
olive sky
finally a reason to get E 75
hollow belfry
Over 230mm turret
wise valley
Someone got the pre patch notes on 6.3
wise valley
6.2 had patch notes for before it was inputted so I assume we will get the same for 6.3 at some point
On like blitz hanger
hollow belfry
Maybe
wise valley
So basically the tiger 2 has no weakspots for lower pen guns from the front gg and it still has its mobility and side scrapping power
hollow belfry
Yes
wise valley
Literally bought the vk 100 and now it seems like there’s no need other than fat rolls lol
olive sky
another reason to stay away from tier 8
crude gorge
Yeah some tanks are just too underpowered compare to the rest
wise valley
Power creep 😭
crude gorge
wz 120 ruins lives of tier 7
narrow shadow
Don't forget about VK36 buff. I'll rebuy both Tiger 2 and VK36 and I encourage everyone to do it too. It could hopefully boost those tanks' stats and make WG nerf them to a balanced state again
hollow belfry
Yes vk36 will be a maus for tier 5s
narrow shadow
It'll be comparable to T6 Tigers I think, but with better upper plate and better turret but with bigger cupola.
hollow moth
@solid gate pffff so rush in the front line while your enemies are shooting you, and circle it when you have all your enemies at your sides
Yeah jageroo in hull down need only a prammo for be penetrable
The credit card tank have only one weak spot and only TD can pen that tank using HEAT or APCR
slate nimbus
Is the Fv 183 OP ?
scarlet nest
No it's more like weak
dapper panther
not really
Imagine the mobility and the armouring of the RHM but with the size of the KV4
~930 average damage, but ~20sec reload, can carry only 15shells
Dispersion and aim time are slightly worse than RHM's
scarlet nest
Most of player just die afther shoot 1~2 shots
dapper panther
it isn't weak, more like noob-unfriendly
robust dagger
@slate nimbus Only annyoing, nothing more.
feral vector
T57 heavy forever
elder plank
In current state, the FV 183 is kinda hard to play as the dispersion quite bad. Even fully aim, you still have high chance to miss the target or not penetrated with AP, hit with HEsh but small dmg (~5xx)
solid gate
@hollow moth all tanks can pen it’s weak spot why make a 170mm gun completely uncounterable? Be quiet already the badger does not need a nerf
scarlet nest
Playing maus is bad experince...
Thinking that "with this angle he can't pen me"
And enemy just shoot promo ammo
:(
hollow moth
@scarlet nest try to make an angle with turret too and hide the lower plate
If the prammo is HEAT, it won't pen begind the tracks
If it's APCR pray for the enemy don't know that trick
minor sonnet
Hi everyone, I started to play blitz a couple of days ago, but I'm a PC version veretan
I see that top E100 gun has higher pen than stock, why is that?? Lol
hollow moth
Different gun
minor sonnet
Shouldn't the top E100 gun have lower pen than stock? Like in PC version
hollow moth
Idk, E 100 can be penned easier than Maus, so need to be better in gun
Different than in wot pc, the game shows the weak spots
minor sonnet
Hmmmmm, ok, can we see patch notes here? If yes, where?
hollow moth
😕
solid gate
N o p r o o f
wise valley
What’s the vk 36 buff again
hollow belfry
@wise valley Higher plate to 145mm but i'm not sure
narrow shadow
Turret and upper plate armour, + 80mm sides
Turret especially is gonna be super strong now, cupola will be the only weakspot
hollow belfry
I'll rebuy it at the update
narrow shadow
Me too, hopefully WG will see how the stats will inflate if everyone rebuys it. Same for Tiger 2
green tundra
solid gate
Hei, who can explain me how works the thing "HUGE CONTAINER" the tanks to win is true or is false (scuse me for english)
wise valley
It’s true just a really low percentage chance
Still good for boosters and free exp imo
tulip sail
Yes you can get the tanks I've gotten quite a few
glass crypt
economy wise, should i farm up for a kv4 or get the challenger
somber rampart
Do you want to go to space and blow up?
Because taking the challenger will make you lose lots of credit and suspend space missions for a few years
glass crypt
huh
wise valley
i mean depends u got free exp for the top gun? @glass crypt
cause i would just buy the challenger til u built up more free exp and then buy the kv-4
wise valley
nah its good u just have to play to the map and sidescrape
its bad when flanked obviously thats its weakness and counter
glass crypt
i almost accidentally turned this into an argument, but im assuming the playstyle is constant repositioning and putting pressure everywhere
wise valley
i mean u could, i play more as the "tank" of the mmo rpg style, u should be the focus of their team and absorb the hits to make space and push
cedar fog
challenger? that tank is good lol
solid gate
Can someone help me learn the is3
wise valley
dont sidescrape, keep front to enemies, never expose yourself longer than the shot needs, and use ur speed to get to positions or flank.
solid gate
So dont brawl
I love the tiger 2 but i sold it to get the is3 so i can get the bl9 so i can finish the is4 tree... Needless to say i hate the is3
wise valley
u can brawl just be aware u have a weakspot on the top of ur turret and if u angle one way the other side is exposed
oof tiger 2 is getting a buff big mistake
wise valley
Yes but it’s mostly turret and upper plate scroll up to see info on that
solid gate
Look idc i love the tiger no i have a reason to grind it
wise valley
teal yarrow
Maybe am wrong
But don't you think that Foch 155 with auto loader is kinda over powered??
I mean it's front armour is kinda good if it keeps moving and on that gun
wise valley
It is op just look the average screen shot and performance, I think I saw some 5 k dmg 4 kill games only get like mastery class 1
stark scarab
Just got the tiger 2 so I won’t complain. Any advice on what line to go with e50 or leopard trying to get a feel of which is better or if just counts on how you play the Leo line is just so under armored
wise valley
I would go e50 and regarding the tiger 2, it’s grind is so easy now lol