vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

Also Gravedigger does more damage than Tankenstein, 540 to 460 but takes time to dish it out

[hollow moth]

But when you find a gravedigger in a match, not hard find somebody saying "gravedigger need to be deleted" or something else

[crude gorge]

I never got the tank so I don't know anything about it apart from having like a 7 shots autoloader or something

[plucky summit]

Gravedigger is a joke after people got used to it xD

I got mine and I rarely play it, and I just give up if there are T8 heavies

[crude gorge]

I kill a gravedigger once in my su-100y

[hollow moth]

But when you find a gravedigger in a match, not hard find somebody saying "gravedigger need to be deleted" or something else

[plucky summit]

You literally said that a minute ago

[hollow moth]

Yep

[solid gate]

best tier IX? 3 tanks please

[plucky summit]

E 75, Conway, Amx 30 1er prot

[solid gate]

no premium

Ok thanks and t-54?

[plucky summit]

Then uhh, ST-I

T-54’s a good one, yeah

[solid gate]

ok👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[hollow moth]

Idk,
1- SU-122-54
2-T95
3- T-54 full

[solid gate]

Heavy germany - meds english and russian is ok?

[hollow moth]

Just some personal options

[plucky summit]

Well of course full xD T95 has a weakspot tho, a hard to miss weakspot

[solid gate]

sorry for my bad english lol

[plucky summit]

SU is definitely scary

[hollow moth]

Depends, what german heavy line?

[solid gate]

E100

[plucky summit]

Yuh

[solid gate]

Meds line T62 russian and english conway

[plucky summit]

Mauschen was great before the nerf, so was VK, I got to Maus before then 😅

[solid gate]

Ok i want this 3 tanksss

[plucky summit]

If u need a credit grinder, use T26E4 or Lowe

[solid gate]

I have only E75 tier IX

The next is t-54 and conway 🤞🏻

[plucky summit]

👌

[robust dagger]

M46 Patton is really nice :)

[tulip sail]

Unless stock

[robust dagger]

Stock it's pure pain, like the most Tier 9's

[tulip sail]

Lol yeah I occasionally enjoy playing t9 because of it

[raven bridge]

centurion 7/1 is also pretty nice

[tulip sail]

Haven't tried it yet

[hollow moth]

Haven't tried most of the brits yet

[tulip sail]

I stopped at the churchill 7 but I'm still grinding the chally and cent1

[wise valley]

challenger is pretty good, churchill 7 is serviceable

[tulip sail]

I sold for credits prebuff

[tranquil wren]

How rare is the fury?

oof

[hollow belfry]

Does someone knows if the E 75 TS will come for money or for gold?

[calm inlet]

no clue

[solid gate]

F

[solid gate]

how to play arl44

[dense ice]

Step 1. Upgrade the turret and gun
Step 2. ???
Step 3. Profit

[deft spade]

Why T28 prot soooooo slow. The team is rushing and I can't go. Maybe you just need to make max speed 25.

[hushed shadow]

It’s ok as it is. Some tanks just are slow and they still can do well

[deft spade]

When the team finishes everything and comes to the battlefield, I finish the game without doing anything.

Beautiful armor, beautiful turret, beautiful gun dep. bad speed

[hushed shadow]

I’ve managed to do fine in it when I was grinding the tank. The speed is annoying but it’s not too hard to get damage in when you manage to get up front more easily. I guess staying somewhere up front rather than behind would also be good for when the team all decide to move to a new place on the map

[solid gate]

Update 6.1:

Update 6.2:

@wanton fern @solid gate when exactly were you going to tell us about this change? When the crates are out of the shop?

[elfin edge]

ouch

[rugged jacinth]

GG WG GG next nerf some premiums and tell it now one GG

[proven jasper]

At8 is a good tank if u have a med for support

I don't think free xping the at7 is a good choice

[short flame]

wow thats so weird, an hidden nerf to a tank sold right after

its most likely not even noticeable nerf since no one was going to shoot here and the whole side is anyway unpenetrable

[solid gate]

@short flame It is no longer impenetrable, while it is still very strong

But as i said, no longer as good

[short flame]

can u understand that the tank is not strong because 1/10 of his side is unpenetrable?

[solid gate]

I‘m not saying it is bad or anything it is still the best medium at tier X

All I‘m saying is that they shouldn‘t nerf vehicles with such reputation right before selling them in crates

[hollow belfry]

I wanna ask a question. What equipment slot should I use for the T-22. Improved assembly or improved armor?

[woeful pumice]

@solid gate that was just a value issue with armor inspector, there are still some ( look at e100 side skirts )

Stop spreading fake news

[solid gate]

Plsssss don’t nerf foch155 plsss

[short flame]

@woeful pumice blitzhangar has same errors so?

someone come in training room to test out spaced armor thickness

[trail veldt]

@woeful pumice it was nerfed dude , if u dont know what u r talking about then pls shush ,we tested it in training rooms before & after

[short flame]

oh k gg so

[crude shuttle]

Maybe in 6.3 they will buff it again, like they did with IS3 Defender few years ago @trail veldt

[solid gate]

Buff it again?

[crude shuttle]

Yes they did that with is3

[solid gate]

Buff what?

[crude shuttle]

T22

Few years ago wg secretly nerfed is3D

Then ppls found out and they put the tank as it was

[solid gate]

Lol

[crude shuttle]

The next update

[robust dagger]

They can nerf T9 and T10 "Prems" because they are enriched Tanks. ^^

[solid gate]

They can nerf or buff any tank they like

[crude shuttle]

Yes but announce it

[solid gate]

True. At least they should announce it.

[zealous anchor]

XD

[crude shuttle]

We are speaking about t22 and not pz58 lmao

And at this point why nerfing t22 and not smasher or gravedigger

[zealous anchor]

Baby steps first

[crude shuttle]

@zealous anchor ?

Is nerfing a 500$ tank baby step instead of nerfing 30$ tank

[zealous anchor]

Slowly start small nerfing t-22 already shows progress
Progress nonetheless

[crude shuttle]

Yes but this is not a rly nice move from wg bcs there will be less persons spending a lot of money to get a T10 op tank, instead of t7 or 8

At this point they could do this sneaky nerf with 252 or wz120-gft

[frigid cipher]

WG can do whatever they want. Even delete ur acc. U signed for this in Eula

[trail veldt]

they care more about t10 because its on the competetive scene , im for the nerf , However doing that just after selling it in crates and not announcing it , some players spent so much for it

[frigid cipher]

It’s still OP tho

[trail veldt]

From a business stand point its the right move , But if u care about ur players im not sure , it was so op in 6.1 , That when they made the crates in 6.2 every Cw team spent money for it, & at the end they just recieved a nerfed version of it

But im still for the nerf , at least this way it wont ruin the Cw scene

[crude shuttle]

@frigid cipher ahha of course

[solid gate]

Hybird nation tank should deserve a nerf because it's unbalanced and it's fax

[crude shuttle]

Lmao

Hafen should get a nerf?

@frigid cipher btw don’t u think badger should get a nerf too?

If u think cw scence shouldn’t be ruined

[livid vale]

When i buy is7 im try to get fv heavy (don't remember the name). but like obj, and ima probs get first

[solid gate]

Hello guys,can someone tell me which canon is the best for isu 152?( in three days max i m going to buy it)

[pulsar sinew]

BL-10

[solid gate]

Thank you for your answer

[drowsy vector]

Bl-10 all the way

[wise valley]

Big Load 10

[neat nest]

Was the KV-2 nerf really necessary?

[short flame]

actually i think this T-22 nerf is okay because tank's side armor was ridicolously op, but they must've announced it since they put t-22 crates in the same update.

[frigid cipher]

Well, I’ve met badger only few times in randoms so I can’t really say if it should be nerfed. If it’s same as I tested, then ofc it should get a nerf, since it causes Pay2Win in CWs.

@crude shuttle

[crude shuttle]

U can’t HE splash his front plate when hull down …

With normal HE at least

[tulip sail]

@neat nest 100% yes it was

[ruby star]

T22 definetly needed a nerf, but gosh put it in the patch note then, before selling it... I spent over 130€ in those crates, which I would've never have spent if they announced the nerf before.

[hushed shadow]

That’s why WG kept saying it was ‘balanced’ then... And they still couldn’t say that they nerfed the tank

[solid gate]

how to play arl 44

[wise valley]

The kv-2 was necessary

[robust dagger]

Mk 6 worth the Money? 🤔

[crude shuttle]

A lot of peoples spent a LOT to get the tank bcs in their mind it was op

[wise valley]

Just spend 1500 gold on an is-5 in clan supply

[crude shuttle]

Like 80% players 2 years ago

[wise valley]

What’s the coefficients on it anyways

I forgot or is it literally an is-3 for sale with some pluses and minuses

[thick trout]

I just love WGs amazing thought processes of "lets nerf an OP tank but not tell people and let them spend stupid amounts on crates" but also "lets leave WZ120FT and smasher how they are because we respect the people that paid money for them". Really shows how consistent they are as well as how much the care about the playerbase...

[short flame]

@wise valley is5 is slightly faster than is3 and has better upper pike nose armor, everything else its worse

[wise valley]

Yeah that’s what I remember

[short flame]

especially the gun, way worse pen and accuracy

[wise valley]

In a knife fight tho face to face the is-5 is annoying when I’m playing a is-3

I just shoot when he over angles or the capola but that gun advantage oof

[short flame]

mhh idk pretty sure BL-9 can go trough the whole is5 front

[wise valley]

Not the pike nose obviously

[short flame]

also the pike nose.
@wise valley use cal. shells my dude, rammer is useless in high alpha guns with already bad dpm

[wise valley]

U have to back up for that or aim down at he right angle trust me been in enough engagements to test

I mean rammer gives me that edge in how I play since I’m always aiming and knowledgeable of weakspots

Prob give cs a test run later

[short flame]

rammer is useless

is3 is not a tank shooting the whole time right after u reloaded

and its not an accurate enough gun to aim weakspots, thats why is5's gun its trash compared

[wise valley]

No it’s not lmao maybe not optimal but far from useless

[short flame]

its useless trust me lol

[wise valley]

How about no lol u do u

[short flame]

the time you lose aiming weakspots because of worse pen

[wise valley]

I mean not really it’s a playstyle decision

Tried it in unicum elo with a unicum buddy used well it’s fine. Not optimal but fine. Just need to know what ur doing

[short flame]

but cs its just better and btw im super uni wn8

[wise valley]

65% plus winrate with more than 20k battles then

: p it was against krono bois too so I’m fine. I’ll just take it into note

[tranquil quartz]

Thoughts on Tier 7 Chi Ri?

[wise valley]

Slow for a medium decent burst, decent pen, and good dpm. No armor. It’s like a heavy medium

[wise valley]

Glass cannon tank

[livid vale]

When will japanese heavies get added?

Type heavy ya nkow.

[wise valley]

Hopefully never. They would be too strong in their current state and the maps to small for counterplay against them. Prob have to nerf them hard to add

[robust dagger]

Waffenträger auf E100

[sour glen]

@wise valley
Wrong. The Japanese heavies would face massive problems.

Weakspots get highlighted in Blitz, players can easily switch to gold ammo without reloading, HE-splash damage is less high in Blitz compared to PC, they could barely get away from the spawn without getting spotted...

[wise valley]

If they flanked yes, in a heavy fight not all at, the tier 8 can consistently fight the tier 10a with ez

[white fjord]

@sour glen so give it the ap gun and we have a maus 2.0

[sour glen]

So what?

[wise valley]

Ofc they will get spotted that’s not the point, the point is the constraints on gameplay they put

[sour glen]

Also a Maus can get penetrated.

Why are you so afraid of new tanks that have more armour than a bobby car? xD

[wise valley]

150mm front armor and decent 70mm sides at tier 6 with a good 10cm gun oh boi

[sour glen]

The O-I itself can get derped because its side armour is weak.

[wise valley]

Well duh that’s post nerf it used to be 90mm thankfully it was nerfed

[sour glen]

That's the point. The values can get changed, duh.

[wise valley]

In general the line is oppressive and locks down the map in heir current state

Messes up the tiers too

That’s why I said they would have to be changed to be added in lmao

[sour glen]

Gotta agree there.

I also don't want them to just copy them from PC.

[wise valley]

Be glad the tier 5 no longer has that 10cm shudders

[sour glen]

But I believe it's okay to discuss their implementation and that it's possible to add them.

Bois, we have Smasher, Lupus, 252U and T-22, but pls no Japanese heavies because "muh balance" - really?

[gusty totem]

😂

[wise valley]

Those rack in money, but besides as long as they keep an eye on the he dmg and armor, and keep the gun depression bad, it should be fine

[sour glen]

HE of what?

[wise valley]

Gun depression is their greatest weakness outside of mobility

[sour glen]

Tier VII and VIII are broken anyway.

[wise valley]

Any of Their derps

[robust dagger]

@sour glen C'Mon the Lupus is not so OP. <.<

[sour glen]

I never said it's op.

[wise valley]

The type 5 heavy spamming premium on the Derp is cancer

[sour glen]

whisper barely any splash in Blitz whisper

But yeah, I know what you mean.

[robust dirge]

Buff the t-15 it has teir 1 pen even though it has a teir 3 gun

[pseudo abyss]

Hey guys what do you think about Foch 155 autoloader?

[glass crypt]

isnt the first autoloading td?

ik the hellsing technically is but its also technically isnt

[solid gate]

FV 4005, AT 7 (the t7 at...) are autoloader too.

[glass crypt]

h u h

kinda my bad on forgetting the td i was aiming for, but i never knew tthe AT was one, thanks

[robust dagger]

Want it D:

[vocal jacinth]

@robust dagger ya wanna know what tank I want?

[robust dagger]

@vocal jacinth Sure 😛

[wise valley]

What tank is that above again

[vocal jacinth]

Either the is7 or is4

Either one of those or I have no idea to be honest lol

@wise valley its the 0-47

[wise valley]

Kk

[robust dagger]

A Tank from the Mecha designer Kunio Okawara.

He designed this Tank for the first Gundam Season. And the Zaku.

[wise valley]

That is basically a fighter as a tanks turret lmao

That or a futuristic sub lol

[robust dagger]

The Turret is a fighter! 😄

[hollow moth]

I remember last year, I was saying "TOG II have only HP and DPM"
Now I see how good is TOG II

It's a monster

Actually... Yeah it's only HP and DPM, but view range is high

The gun is of other world too

It's challenger stock gun

The tier 8-9 HP is too good

[robust dagger]

its Tier 10 Medium HP

[hollow moth]

No it's tier 9 HP, medium tier 10 tanks have 1800-1900 HP

TOG II* have 1635 for max HP

[robust dagger]

ooops, i swapped the DPM and HP XD

[brave juniper]

HUH I WONDER what might be going on here @solid gate

👀 👀 👀 👀

[glass crypt]

i don't understand the problem

[brave juniper]

how is the T49-A still IG?,wasnt it removed like god knows years ago?

It shouldn't be possible to play it 👀 or should it

[glass crypt]

well yes, but that doesn't mean those who had it would lose it, its like a collector tanks now

[hollow moth]

Lol

[glass crypt]

smh grammar went wack.

[hollow moth]

I really don't want to see a T49 A in my games

[brave juniper]

Yeah a collector tank,my clan lead had it like evwryone who took part of the event but wg took it from him after the event,how come 🤔

[glass crypt]

h u h

[brave juniper]

besides if it were a collector tank....wouldnt everyone be playing it in normal matches or at least rarely 👀 @glass crypt

[glass crypt]

well, u do hold a good argument, but

[brave juniper]

But? That tank was an event tank,it wasnt permanent just like the MK II heavy tank tier I lmao

[glass crypt]

idk i haven't thought this through

[brave juniper]

F

[glass crypt]

but to think atgm's existed at one point, i cant wait to see tankette's when im 90yrs old

[brave juniper]

Or u can visit a museum and see one rn 🤔 @glass crypt

[glass crypt]

well yes but i can't really drive one off a cliff now can i

[brave juniper]

Well, some of the old tier I tanks were technically tankettes @glass crypt

[glass crypt]

👀

[brave juniper]

So probably 👀

[solid gate]

@short flame @solid gate
lol I felt something was odd, reverse sidescraping wasnt effective anymore and when I watched old captures of me driving it in december I saw bounces that are just impossible right now

it also feels as if the front has gotten weaker a lot

[brave juniper]

Maybe thats why they made the tank 5% chance and not 2.5% in crates 🤔

i knew it they really do shadow nerfs and buffs

[solid gate]

Ive driven it in december much; i managed to pull of bounces that are totally redbull-weird, but somehow explainable to the armor angles. now, thats not the case, even a tier 9 M46 shoots through my front and a JpE100 shoots through my turret like im made of waffle sheets.

[brave juniper]

Thats a big rip is4 doesnt often have,which is what t22 didnt have either when it first came out

[wise valley]

5% big rip to anyone who has to buy like 20 crates

[solid gate]

going to check myself the data, i have th client from december somewhere flying around

[brave juniper]

Welp same thing happened to exp before it was given away in event,i remember it being all red in the turret frontally and a lil bit the turrets side,it had no frontal weaknesses now it is a turtle with a big head and weak sides

[solid gate]

if i find even 1mm less then Im gonna get my hands on someone throat
nobody touches my tank without being allowed to do

[brave juniper]

Yikes

[wise valley]

Those emotes 👌

[brave juniper]

Btw senpai thats some nice waifu material there in ur pfp 🤔 @wise valley

[wise valley]

Thx it’s from kono Sooba

Konosuba

[brave juniper]

🔥 👌 👌 👌 🔥

[wise valley]

Indeed

😤👌

[brave juniper]

🤔

[solid gate]

on paper its not diff. than Dec. 18

5.6 btw

[brave juniper]

Well, paper can be written,tainted,changed and what not or either kept the same,the in game stuff can always change 👀

[solid gate]

well in comparison to 5.60 on the left and 6.2 on the right I dont see any difference

[brave juniper]

Boi im a modder but idk where u even got that info from but i will believe it ,and verify its armor once i get zhe tank myself

[solid gate]

some code was added here and there like armor scaling for the gun module. 5.6 is 367 lines long while 6.2 is 374 lines long.

[short flame]

Lmao.
wasnt it easier to check armor inspector 6.2 vr and then 5.6?

[solid gate]

also interesting to learn that being lit on fire gives you a penalty on your camo rating making you be easier to spot/ ahrder to go unspotted when retreating. kinda logic as a flame-spilling tank is hard not to see but didnt knew that was actual gamemechanic

[short flame]

Btw i felt a thing after 6.2
is4 turret sides are easier to pen, and also T-22. thats what i felt by playing tier X in my usual e50m.

[short flame]

can u check if is4 got something changed? @solid gate

[solid gate]

the hull has now armor scale changes - maybe thats why its different

why IS-4? its still a beast and I didnt notice I could go easier throuh it

[left anvil]

Everyone needs to remember the rng change. I think that might be the answer to the t22 nerf

[solid gate]

I just aim more automatic at the lowerslit of plate and short try HEAT and ignore it else and move my way around it

well thats an option... the straightened RNG makes it easier to penetrate and nerfing sloped armor silently as it relies on the autobounce angle

[short flame]

@left anvil nop, go check armor inspector. they literally deleted the 2nd strongest spaced armor plate of tier X, from 83 to 3mm.

[solid gate]

armor inspector right?

[left anvil]

Oh. If you guys found it then fine. I’m actually glad they did

[solid gate]

so minintelrose should know about how the inspector works

[short flame]

minintelrose?

hoy

😠😠

[solid gate]

huh?

minitelrose is working on it right? so he should know how the viewer says its changed even tho I cant find the change in the code

[white fjord]

@solid gate eh if you gonna find something can you ping me pls? I want to see it aswell.

@solid gate well in the picture of the Christmas hangar it says it has 77% protection but when you look now at the protection it says 76 or am I false?

[short flame]

@white fjordyes u're false because there's no more a % showing a stuff of tanks

[white fjord]

Well in the blitz assistant app there is

And it shows me 76%

[short flame]

its a % based on all tanks, if you remove maus and is4 this % will Jump in the sky for all tanks.

[solid gate]

how did u even set the assistant to another update than 6.2?

on inspector

[short flame]

assistant as well as blitz chat are not even showing up in the store

[solid gate]

blitzchat is fully dead

not even able to connect to the servers anymore

[short flame]

yet i can download them from play store somehow with links xd

[solid gate]

Assistant still works but is not developed anymore

[short flame]

btw why they deleted assistant project?

it seems a bit like if wotb is dying, or maybe its just because everyone uses bltizstars and blitzhangar instead?

[white fjord]

I think so. Assistant is keeping up with the updates but it doesn’t shows new videos wallpaper or anything like that anymore

[plucky robin]

we just reached clan supply level ten and wat we get is a horrible pen is 5

[minor halo]

Before I grind for the T-54 LTWT is their anything I need to know about it?

[plucky robin]

it's the best tier 8 light

[white fjord]

Nah.

[minor halo]

So just go for it then?

What about the tier 9 T-54?

[white fjord]

Super nice tank. Easiest med to drive in the game.

[robust dagger]

The M46 is easy o:

[minor halo]

Can I ask what in your opinion is the hardest med to drive?

[solid gate]

Anything japan

[white fjord]

CHI RI

[robust dagger]

idk why but I am a Super Unicum on the M46 Patton.. place 900 lel

[white fjord]

Big slow box without armor and pen

@minor halo this line has no gundepression very fast tanks acceptable guns they are Allrounders I would say

[minor halo]

Your talking about the soviet tanks right?

[plucky robin]

it's a fun line I got my first tier 10 from it

[solemn vessel]

600$

@solid gate when were you going to announce that the t22s spaced armor was changed?

[solid gate]

i checked

the armor was not changed

so something different mustve happen

[wise valley]

Ground resistances

Wg likes to mess up soft stats to hell on pc

[white fjord]

Shell velocity?

[glass otter]

What should I pick for T49 aiming time or supercharge?

[solemn vessel]

aiming, you won’t be sniping in a 49.

[wise valley]

Aiming it’s a knife fight tank

[raven jacinth]

spaced armor for T22 was always 6mm

right?

[white fjord]

No

[hollow moth]

No

[raven jacinth]

oh nvm it was 3m

[hollow moth]

Why ISU-130 and ISU-152 have different designs if they are the same tank but with different cannons and engines?

[raven jacinth]

Oh yeah there was some glitch with the WoT Inspecter where the wrong spaced armor values for the sides were displayed

[wise valley]

So u don’t mistake one for the other I guess

That and so wallet warriors can brag about their better bought version

[hollow moth]

Oohhhh guy, the life is a s&#@, when you finally find the perfect TD, there is something more beautiful

[raven jacinth]

@solid gate Spaced armor was never changed, it was always 3mm... There was some bug in the WoT Inspector app in which the wrong spaced armor values were used. Same reason why FV215b had like 94mm spaced armor but it actually had 6mm in game

[white fjord]

Let’s end this discussion about the 22 med. it’s still a super strong med. but if there are any changes wg did to it, it should definitely be announced

[hollow moth]

Yes

[brisk badger]

@solid gate let me run down the mistakes your makeing, 1 it's armour was never changed the "83mm" and "3mm" is the inspector counting both spaced armour and not spaced in the same value hence the "83" but in picture the picture displaying "3mm" it's saying the spaced armour in total is only 3 while not displaying the spaced and non spaced together. 2 your not viewing it from the same angle by the looks of it the "6.2" is angled a little lower so the angle of penetration is slightly less, therefore giving you that lower penetration needed.

[vestal citrus]

T22 wasn't nerfed he was on the wrong part of the armor

[solid gate]

Guys

Su 122-44 premium is good?

[short flame]

i prefer su122s

[brisk badger]

122-44 has -4° and it's literally the only thing bad about it

[calm inlet]

and the horrible accuracy

and the low pen

and the armor that never bounces anything

[nova solar]

Dude if you play derp guns then the accuracy wont be a problem

[brisk badger]

O yeah the accuracy is crap

[nova solar]

It has enough armour to bounce meds and lights

Pen is worse than a ac4 sent tho

[brisk badger]

But it's mostly a med with no turret so the armour and pen isn't a problem as long as you play it on the med flanks

[nova solar]

Yup like aggresive med support

[robust dagger]

The Panther M10 is very good

[night citrus]

idk wut u guys talking about, but chi ri oppp, 1st shot = a chance of ammo rack, 2nd shot = maybe ammo rack and 3rd shot = prob or definitely ammo rack dmg

[wise valley]

It’s a peek a mag tank

[zealous anchor]

?!

[solid gate]

This makes every autoloader op in your logic @night citrus

[tranquil shale]

Is the Royal Chieftain any good and does anyone know what the next tank that is going to sold in the store?

[solid gate]

Yeah it's good. But you gotta know how to play it.

And no, you can't predict that @tranquil shale

[tranquil shale]

In trying to find out for my wife. She has stage 4 incurable breast cancer that has moved to all her bones.

[solid gate]

...uhhh

[tranquil shale]

And she wants a level 10 tank.

Well I meant to out that all together but hit the wrong button.

[solid gate]

My condolences dude. Best of luck @tranquil shale

[tranquil shale]

Yeah we found out 10 months ago. We have been married for a little over 27 years now. She turned 45 just after finding out.

Thanks @solid gate. The bad part about it is they have told us they really can't do anything for her.

[solid gate]

This turned really serious within 5 messages.

[tranquil shale]

@gentle wasp yeah its true. Wish it wasn't with all my heart.

Sorry to bring the room down.

[balmy parcel]

What tier 6 is good guys?

[solid gate]

I think he meant Soviets

[tranquil shale]

If you see her on just say hi. She loves playing this game and has a bunch of friends on it. Really good bunch of people for the most part. Some can really cuss and say some nasty things though. Her name on the game and in real life is Lora Alfstad.

[balmy parcel]

Ok

[solid gate]

But to answer your question, all tier 6's are good.

Besides chi-to and at-8

[balmy parcel]

VK.30.01P?

[solid gate]

Yeah insanely fast, and has a nice 88mm gun

Would recommend if you like the playstyle of the E50 or something ig

[tranquil shale]

I will let her know and thanks everyone.

[balmy parcel]

Well thanks for the coments

[solid gate]

Np. If u have any other questions just ask @balmy parcel

[tranquil shale]

@gentle wasp thanks and appreciate it.

I'm going back over to war wings and kill so planes.

[valid lodge]

Any tips on using vk30.01h? Used free xp to research the modules but i feel incredibly vulnerable while using it.

[calm inlet]

its bad

don’t expect the armor to do a lot really. if you can focus on just not getting shot and doing some damage in return, you’ll do good

[lyric oriole]

I think he meant the 36, because modules can't be researched on the 30

[valid lodge]

I did mean the 36. My apologies

[calm inlet]

eh, same advice applies

[lyric oriole]

The armor isn't terrible on the 36, the gun is strong.

It's slow but given is has a similar armor layout to Stock Tiger 1 it does well in tier 6 matches as top tier.

Try to avoid engagements with higher tier vehicles. Also I would advise, while your Turret is pretty strong, the cupola is a very vulnerable.

Unfortunately it's one of the weaker heavies in tier 6 at the moment as well, Especially compared to M6. So be cautious when using the 36

[valid lodge]

Alrighty thank you for the advice

[wise valley]

Turret is pudding for higher tiers. Just try to use ur dpm and armor layout to sneak in shots

[calm inlet]

the 8,8 cm gun is the best part about the tank

[lyric oriole]

Budget KMM

[calm inlet]

if you learn the VK 36.01 well, you’ll do well in the Tiger 1 as well

[wise valley]

Decent gun pen is lacking but good handling I like it better on the vk 30 p

Vk 30 p can use that same gun to harass better, vk 36 just is there

[calm inlet]

lul

[lyric oriole]

VK 36 needs some help with it's competition IMO, but it would be hard to not accidentally make it too strong

[wise valley]

Prob could raise power to weight ratio and average speed it’s slacking behind the other heavies

While I wish the 88 gets more pen, that would buff a lot of tanks at once and make the 75mm on those lines useless

So that’s a no go

[lyric oriole]

The pen is fine, I think a P/W buff would help, and some hull traverse increase.

[wise valley]

Pen is lacking but serviceable on the vk 36 it’s perfect for the vk 30 p, yeah prob hull transverse on top of p/w I suggested

Tho 30 ish is the standard so prob should see a buff above let’s say 34-36 degrees for the vk

[proven jasper]

@solid gate how is at8 bad? Just go to a high place and shoot at every enemy tanks or stay in front line defense cuz only the arl can pen u, if u have support it's a good tank

[lyric oriole]

@proven jasper I don't think you have ever driven or shot at an AT8 before with a comment like that.

[plucky summit]

AT 8 can actually take a certain position where it would become invincible

All you need is a building to your right, then you can inch your gun out a bit, hiding your cupola and that other disgrace of a gun everyone can pen

[lyric oriole]

It has T95 levels of mobility, minus the Armor. It has a 60mm Spot on the auxiliary gun, in fact the whole thing in around 60mm, plus a cupola of around 100mm that is huge.

The AT 8 also features mediocre camo values, not even average gun depression or elevation, and a lack of powerful armament.

If you try a building strat in a tank like that, it takes someone rushing you to end it

[wise valley]

If u need that much stuff to align perfectly to work, chances are the tank isn’t great

[plucky summit]

It’s not really, consider it a tog without a turret, but some armor

[wise valley]

Some is the key point not much

[lyric oriole]

A Tog without a Turret. Sounds like a great vehicle description.

[plucky summit]

cough Churchill GC

[lyric oriole]

Churchill GC has armor, can traverse the hull, notable DPM, high pen and Alpha as well as gun depression values.

[plucky summit]

AT 8 has armor too : (

[lyric oriole]

Yes, so does UC 2-PDR

[plucky summit]

Literally ram your weakspots into a building and leave your gun out to defend the lane

[raven bridge]

my poor wr cant take these teams

[lyric oriole]

And what happens in a scenario where you can't use cover in such a manner

[raven bridge]

rip 30 day wr, dropped 3 percent

[plucky summit]

Then you happen to be like any other tank, you get penned

[lyric oriole]

If that is the end all be all strat, it is bad.

Obj.252u doesn't have the same issue, neither does SU-100Y because it can flee

[raven bridge]

oof wrong chat

[plucky summit]

You turn into a sidescraping Maus that doesn’t have to move, as long as your teammates keep your rear covered you don’t have to worry about much

[lyric oriole]

AT 8 turns into a sidescrape Maus 😂

Ok.

[plucky summit]

No weakspots with a building to the right

[lyric oriole]

And when that building is on your left?

[plucky summit]

Then hold em from rushing

[lyric oriole]

That's not gonna work. AT 8 doesn't have enough mobility, DPM, or sheer alpha to hold off Enemies. Sherman Fire Fly at least has a turret and is mobile while carrying similar gun stats

[plucky summit]

AT 8 is nothing that significant but if you wanna have fun then there’s the strat

[cerulean tree]

The best hulldown tank for me is t28 htc

[plucky summit]

Not with those side balls, oof

[boreal parrot]

How bad is KV4? It literally has nothing. No gun dperession, no dpm, takes a year to aim and armor that is filled with weakspots

[cerulean tree]

@plucky summit lol you clearly never driven one

[boreal parrot]

also slower than a tractor on steroids

[plucky summit]

But I’ve shot at many

[cerulean tree]

@plucky summit those were bots driving it

It has the biggest gun ark in any td

[plucky summit]

@boreal parrot you don’t have to expose weak spots, just trick them to shoot and then trade back

[boreal parrot]

you cannot trade when evevryone has 400 or 640 alpha with that 320 alpha gun

[lyric oriole]

KV-4 is great. It has strong armor, and it's slow to turn but has good straight line speed.

Don't listen to the people they say to use the stock Turret use the top one.

Also the top gun is amazing, goes through everything like a hot knife through butter

[plucky summit]

Then don’t trade

Bounce and then try to fire back 😑

[cerulean tree]

To make the t28 htc work for you all you have to do is use the wide gun ark peak around a corner and voila a beast no one can pen you because your balls are hidden and the lower plate is angled and good luck hitting the tiny hatches on top im telling you it's an op tank no one knows how to use it I have 78% wr in that tank I basically never lose in it and I always carry with it

[plucky summit]

Front drive wheel

[cerulean tree]

Not exposed

Bruh try one first before you make an opinion

[plucky summit]

Opinion? Hm

[cerulean tree]

Do you know how many degrees the gun ark is on that tank ?

[plucky summit]

You gave an example that wasn’t hulldown, still doesn’t defeat my argument

[cerulean tree]

I held 7 enemies they didn't rush me and I rekt them one by one

Isn't that hulldown ?

[plucky summit]

You don’t need to use all of the arc, I can see hiding one ball with terrain and the other covered by your thiccness, angled front

[cerulean tree]

Yep

[plucky summit]

But you are talking about frontscraping 😐

[cerulean tree]

Without that gun ark the tank is useless

I can even get some stupid bounces when there is no place to hide my balls

I just use the gun ark and angle one ball away from the enemy while im baiting the other one

[plucky summit]

Yeah, some people got either noobdrome or bad accuracy : P

[cerulean tree]

Well then I faced noobs for 2k battles with that tank xD

[plucky summit]

Tog is a fun boi

[cerulean tree]

The t28 htc is Hella good and no one knows that

[plucky summit]

T28 HTC = S35 CA tier for tier, change my mind

[cerulean tree]

Lol the TOG one thiCC boi

The t28 htc is my go to tank if I wanna bully nabs xD

[proven jasper]

@lyric oriole I have fully researched the at8 and used it the same way it works... I did 4 kills

I had a sentinel with me

[plucky summit]

It’s hilariously fun to do once I found it out

[cerulean tree]

I gtg bully some nabs cya later

[plucky summit]

If only the AT-7 had enough gun mantlet armor to do the same thing

[boreal parrot]

AT8 fake gun has less than 90 mm armor, which means penetrable by kv2 HE

[plucky summit]

Hide weakspots silly

[lyric oriole]

You mean hide the whole tank?

[plucky summit]

No, just half of it

[proven jasper]

Nope @lyric oriole, just hide the right side including the cupola

[lyric oriole]

Oh, excuse me

[plucky summit]

The cupola and fake gun is to the right of the actual gun

[proven jasper]

Peek out the main gun and you will see the magic

[lyric oriole]

Oh it's a magical vehicle alrighty.

I've watched it disappear many times.

[plucky summit]

Because of a bad driver

[proven jasper]

Yup

AT8 is a beast if u have a support, and u can only feel the power if it's on the ryt hands

Going alone aint a good idea

[plucky summit]

Put a wiggle on it and you’ll work wonders

[lyric oriole]

So AT 8 is good if it has a good team.

And where exactly do I find those? As for going alone, it so slow, it gets left alone not the other way around

[plucky summit]

All tanks can’t do a 7v1 👀

[proven jasper]

There's something called a platoon where ur friend can help u

[lyric oriole]

So artificially raise how a vehicle performs?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[lyric oriole]

Which means, if it needs all these specific strats.

It's just Bad.

Hide 65% of the vehicle while being slow, but make sure specifically there is cover on your right, on a good team, with a platoon mate.

And Víola, AT 8 is OP

[plucky summit]

One strat, teammates are distractions, put yourself to a building and boom

[proven jasper]

Exactly

Those wandering morons will help u to do a gr8 amount of dmg

[plucky summit]

Here ya go

[proven jasper]

Yesss the exact position

Some slight tilt will help u block all the dmg

[plucky summit]

yep, especially to use the gun arc to hide the upper machine gun mount

[proven jasper]

Yea

I wish I could show u a replay

[plucky summit]

well, out to bed

goodnight, I had fun getting to and using AT 7

[proven jasper]

Cya tmrw

[solid gate]

I truly hope one of the developers sees this... I really need the following tanks...

IS3 DEFENDER.
T28 DEFENDER.
GRAVEDIGGER.
HELSING.
TANKENSTEIN.

and many more... please give us events that we can win cool tanks like these... I really missed out on them... it's so heartbreaking... :(

[severe holly]

Save up for Blitz fair they'll be most likely there

[boreal parrot]

Giving 'strong' tanks for free is not optimal for profitability

[calm inlet]

he meant in the auction for extortionist prices

[crude shuttle]

Lmao is3 defends sucks AF

U have a dpm that have cancer, u need 3 shoots to hit one (maybe pen )

Armor is in anyway worse than is3

[raven jacinth]

it's all about the driver, you are:

1. you just find yourself fighting a defender that's a nub
2. you're playing high pen tank and IS-3D isn't hull down, just having it's front facing you
3. you're playing it wrong
4. getting into bad situations/matchups

[narrow shadow]

Is3D bad? It has the same DPM as IS3 on top of having autoloader. The hull front is stronger thanks to the 2 130mm plates. It has overmatch roof unlike the IS3, but that is only bad when facehugging or something like that. It's in no way a bad tank lmao

[zinc condor]

I love IS3D engine sound remind me 9f nose trimmer

[crude shuttle]

@narrow shadow Tanks like 252 overpass it in everyways

And how is3def side armor sucks

Is5 or is3 are way better

[proven jasper]

@crude shuttle yes is5 is better than the defender

[fiery crown]

Is3 def is better than Is5.....

[narrow shadow]

It has a clip and the same DPM as those tanks. 252u even has like 400 less dpm than it and has no clip. That is enough to make it extremely powerful

[mystic skiff]

How did I bounced 2 times 185 mm of armor with 279 mm of penetration wg ?

[thick trout]

Fochs and 155s cupolas have no logic 🤷

[mystic skiff]

XD

The Foch 155 didn’t need the new gun, but Grille is so big and so slow to turn without armor

[zealous anchor]

Yea :((

[narrow shadow]

Probably the hit registered in different spot on the server. I had a Tiger 2's turret bounce my 122mm gun 2 times on the 40mm spot above the main plate. It clearly hit there on my end, so it should have penned via overmatch rule, but it didn't cuz idk why rly

[mystic skiff]

I would like to see where the shot hit the tank from the server xD

[pseudo patio]

aammm..........

i just ammo-racked a kv2

[vital plover]

@thick trout whoever gave the OK on foch cupola buffs needs his head testing.

Was strong as hell tank as it was.

[thick trout]

Whoever gave the ok on most of the "balence" adjustments needs their head testing 🤷

[eternal crypt]

When where u guys going to tell us T22 got nerfed

after crate sells?

[eternal crypt]

After people spent 100 euro for not getting it? Sweet

[bright folio]

I think that the Foch buff is a little too much, even given all the tanks before it.

[night citrus]

@solid gate nah it’s Chi-Ri only where that can apply

[flint eagle]

What does this do? It doesn’t effect the armor thickness numbers. Does it give 4% chance for auto bounce?

[zealous anchor]

It does according to Support

[obtuse basin]

Nay makes armor*1,04 thicker...

Auto bouncers are wg way of adjusting games...

[brave juniper]

@eternal crypt it wasnt nerfed

That just fake rumours,if you wanna know the truth scroll up for the whole discussion with In Game stats and stuff from the game files

[eternal crypt]

Someone said they tested in training room the side armour got nerfed

[brave juniper]

It wasn't,it just has to do with the 15% chance grey zones had chance to bounce before,it was an indirect nerf to all tanks and this affected the t22 too 🤔

Since now its 5% chance to bounce

[eternal crypt]

I see

[night citrus]

hot damn, brazil wut u typing m8?

[brave juniper]

Hes writing the bee movie script

[night citrus]

xD

[brave juniper]

Btw whatever ur typing,theres a 2k words limit

[night citrus]

^^

i feel like brazil is trying to type a question, but he doesn't know how to word it so he keeps deleting it and retyping it

[brave juniper]

🤔 maybe

Hes portuguero after all,estoy en lo correcto? 🤔

Its been 10 minutes now

W h a t are y o u typing????

[hushed shadow]

Hmm what is this coming our way?

[hollow moth]

@solid gate @calm inlet i saw your comments about SU-122-44 and I'm going to answer all of then

-accuracy: It's a semi derp tank so it has a bad accuracy

-Penetration: it has a high DPM (probably the tank compete with Y5 elc bis), like other tier 6-7 medium premiun tanks

-armor: the effective armor have 175mm and it's good for block some tier 6 (if they don't use APCR), your armor is a problem for some tier with low pen 7 tanks too, that's why you need to be aggressive at tier 6 battles and support meds at tier 7 fights

Positive points
-agility: more than 40Km/H for max speed and a crazy transverse speed, most of the tanks can't circle you

-damage and reload: 400 average dmg for only 7.9 seconds reload

-armor: (yeah it's a good point in the tank) rush like a highlander for fight your enemy (if the enemy is alone), still with problems? Angle it and it will work

-short profile: KV-2 don't have gun depression for kill you in a face hug

It's a super TD for help meds and smash enemies with your ram dmg

[night citrus]

my gawd

[hushed shadow]

It’s 400 average damage not 500

[hollow moth]

Wrong number

[hushed shadow]

Ah ok

[hollow moth]

That's why i hate cellphone keyboards

[night citrus]

hmm it has crazy traverse speed...

i don't think so, i think the craziest traverse speed is a jagpanther 2 with fuel provisions which even a T49 can't circle it

[hollow moth]

Weeell not a jadgpanther 2, but still good

[night citrus]

lul

[hushed shadow]

T62A has better traverse than a Jpanther II

[night citrus]

we're talking about td traverse speed, not alot of tds can spin that fast without the gun falling out

or maybe having the crew bash their heads against the steel plating besides them

[hollow moth]

Lol

Most weird death in a war

[night citrus]

xD

[balmy parcel]

What tier VI german vehicle is good guys?
VK.36.01 or
VK.30.01 P?

[night citrus]

welll u need both to get the t10 tanks

[solid gate]

Smasher is capitalism kv2 and should also be nerf

[balmy parcel]

No dude
My cuestion is what tier 6 german is good for tournaments

[solid gate]

Tiger 1 maybe?

[balmy parcel]

VK.36?

[solid gate]

Idk

[crude gorge]

Do you like armor or speed?

[solid gate]

I like playing td and heavy than lt or med

[balmy parcel]

I know no?

[crude gorge]

Vk 30.01 p is not very good if you don’t have the top engine yet

[balmy parcel]

The VK.36 why is bad in battles?

[crude gorge]

Vk 36 on the other hand is a side scrapping god at tier 6

[balmy parcel]

Ok
I buy the VK.36.01 K

[solid gate]

Neat

[night citrus]

its not really fast tho

[solid gate]

What about firepower?

[night citrus]

well i think its accurate and it has the 88

[balmy parcel]

The VK.30 and VK.36 have the 220 dmg

[solid gate]

Accuracy?

[night citrus]

maybe

[balmy parcel]

Well in tournaments what VK is good?

[night citrus]

all I remember was buying that tank, had it maxed already cuz I researched most of its parts from other tanks, and aced it in a few games with 75% crew

[wise valley]

Vk 30 p is pretty good actually just needs it second engine and 88

Go for the vk 36 first to get its modules then go vk 30

[solid gate]

I'm going to grind vk36 line because I don't like tiger p design

[balmy parcel]

@solid gateme to

[crude gorge]

Vk 30 p is quite big for a tier 6 medium

[solid gate]

Need 13k more xp tho

[wise valley]

It is but once u get the 88 and get used to the medium’s style. U hit pretty hard

It has a good 1800 dpm with a 220 alpha maxed out

Main thing holding it back is it’s initial speed and it’s poor transverse

[crude gorge]

Vk 30.01 p is a great tank but the stock engine is painful

[solid gate]

Smasher is a capitalism kv2 and shall be nerf on god

[wise valley]

Word doctor

Besides it’s better to go tiger 1 first than tiger p @solid gate the stock tiger p is unbearably undergunned and slow

U can maxed out the tiger really easily

[solid gate]

TOGER

[wise valley]

Toger indeed. Tiger p stock is like driving a tog with none of the meme factor or benefits

[crude gorge]

Tiger P do have that frontal armor that tier 6 and tier 7 will struggle penetrating it, but that does not matter because they can still pen you at the bottom plate or the cupola

[wise valley]

Front plate u can hide, Cupola u have to wiggle like a madman and even then it’s easy to pen

[crude gorge]

Trick them into shooting the gun mantle I guess

[wise valley]

Once u get that turret and gun tho u can press ur dpm cause any tank in front of u has to aim while u just dump rounds

With that dpm and pen

Works against same tier soviets in the open tho if they’re in the open, they have bigger issues

[crude gorge]

Yeah IS doesn’t have very good penetration for a tier 7 heavy

[bright folio]

The 122mm d-25t just sucks as a gun.

[crude gorge]

Yeah, but you can unleash some high alpha rounds but that’s it, the reload is still like 20 seconds

[wise valley]

Reload is 13 seconds maxed its nutty when used right got 4K dmg once

[bright folio]

That’s the KV-1s’s 122mm D-2-5t with the 20-ish second reload.

[crude gorge]

Whoops my mistake

[wise valley]

The D-25t only really sucks on the is-3, is it’s pretty usable just have to position right

[bright folio]

I hated the KV-1s’s gun. It felt like it was given the same stats as the KV-2’s gun, but without the Russian bias.

[wise valley]

Peek a boom their weak points or sided or at weaker targets. Against tier 8s ummmm good luck and hope u have prem or a good angle

If the kv-1s was given the 100mm like in the pc or on the blitz is it would be nutty

[crude gorge]

Tbh I fear KV-1S more than KV-2 even before the nerf

[wise valley]

Kv-1s platoons are fast and coordinated with that alpha scary stuff

[bright folio]

Considering that all the t6 tanks I play are meds, yes.

[solid gate]

Yo

Is a type T-34 or a Chi Nu better?

[wise valley]

Chi nu got buffed at least

[bright folio]

I prefer the Chi-nu, but not by much.

[solid gate]

K thanks

[wise valley]

Chi to is pretty good gun wise

Don’t know about it’s speed

[bright folio]

Isn’t that the only thing that the t6 Japanese tank has going for it?

[wise valley]

Pretty much the same case for the tier 7

[solid gate]

Which nations have the best heavies?

[chrome cedar]

Is7 is4 rhm wt auf

[bright folio]

I used to hate facing the chi-ri.

[wise valley]

Kind of depends on playstyle and tier, for the most consistent results, French is my bet considering I have Russian and German @solid gate

Best guns usually tier for tier

[bright folio]

French guns are generally under appreciated.

[solid gate]

I tried using French tanks several times but they don't seem to be my type

[wise valley]

Yeah playstyle choices. German is pretty good all round as well

[bright folio]

The Russian lines are pretty fun.

[solid gate]

What do u think about British Tank?

[wise valley]

Slow but sturdy yeah Russian is fine obj

Is-3 Stronk tonk

[bright folio]

The IS-3 has been powercreeped to hell.

[wise valley]

Still good in my hands but true

Kv-4 still side scrapping god

[gloomy igloo]

IS-4 is the best tier 10 heavy. Change my mind.

[solid gate]

My most used tank is the Matilda, I haven't bought the Churchill cause it seems to have really slow rotation

[wise valley]

Churchill is a painful time in the turret but the rest of the line is good now

[bright folio]

Don’t get me wrong, I loved playing the IS-3, but it’s by no means top of the food chain anymore.

[wise valley]

Same obj 😭

112 glacials keep popping up every time I play the is-3 and it’s like reeee

[bright folio]

I remember playing too many games in the stock KV-4 when my team left me behind and ran away and died. The entire enemy team would then swarm me and have way too much trouble killing me.

It wasn’t through skill of mine, it was just low-pen guns.

Once I got the top gun and turret the meta shifted and we ended up with too many big guns.

Kv-4 is still fun.

[solid gate]

Should I get the type t-34 so that I could get into the Chinese heavies? Are they good?

[regal zealot]

They’re pretty solid. But get the T-34-1. That’s a gem of a tank

[bright folio]

Go get the type T-34, but go get the T-34-1.

I really need to rebuy that.

[solid gate]

But the Chi Ri seems to be better

I decided to not buy a heavy, I bought the Chi Nu

Thanks for helping

[narrow shadow]

So T34-1 is still good? Considering getting it tbh

[short flame]

its very very good

[stable plank]

One of the best tech tree tank at tier 7

[solid gate]

For those who think that T-22 SR got silently nerfed: It didn't and the previous 83mm nominal armor thickness of armor11(spacedarmor on sides) was sort of an algorythm glitch. The programmers of ArmorInspector tried around making the inspector more precise but it ended up messing some few data up like T-22 SR which they fixed this update.
Basically the two weird screens that are going round show the same values. Once the 83mm of the spacedarmor and the sidearmor combined but only spaced highlighted and once just 3mm spacedarmor and spaced highlighted

[neat nimbus]

they should add this tank

[tacit sentinel]

Is this correct?

[narrow shadow]

I think that the name in the top left corner is wrong. Better use free xp for this one XDD

[tacit sentinel]

lol

[narrow shadow]

Actually I'd use stabilizer and optics. It has so small gun arc that camo doesn't activate 100%, while the optics will always give u range and u can use bush anyways. And for next time, buying the 2 equipments to the right of stab are too expensive to be worthwile, unless you actually want to keep the tank

[tacit sentinel]

id just play a couple of round in a type and id be grand on credits

[dim sail]

Churchill VII is underrated

Very strong armour

[plucky summit]

@neat nimbus please no Blitzen...

[ripe briar]

l think this wasn't supposited to happen

[solid gate]

Nice shot

[narrow shadow]

Shoot churchill 7 frontally to the tracks. Ez pen with detrack

[wise valley]

I mean the mid plate if unangled is ez pen too

[narrow shadow]

Those tracks got buffed probably, afaik they used to be like 70mm. Still, 130mm, penetrable and gives a detrack too

[wise valley]

Lock the tracks and if it doesn’t have the sides protected, it’s a goner

[white fjord]

Well. Stb1 is super nice. But maybe they will change stats on patton

[valid lodge]

Tried comparing how much dmg you per credit spent on ammo between the Lowe and the Ac. On average Ac gives roughly 3.55 times the amount of dmg per credit spent on average than the lowe. Looks like Lowes premium gives you more bang for your buck but Ac has better Ap and He ammo.

Not sure if my math is right though. I'd send a picture but it looks like chicken scratch.

I took the Average dmg of each shell type, how much they cost. Used those to try and see how much dmg you do on average per credit spent on that ammo.

[solid gate]

This ^^^^

[plucky summit]

No, that would just be weird

[hollow notch]

@plucky summit ikr, it needs the 183 autoloader.

[solid gate]

That was dumb

Everyone’s complaining about the 183 how about maker another 183 to combat the 183

[tulip sail]

Thats a great idea

[valid lodge]

Watch em give a light tank a 183

Shoots once and the light goes flying backwards and explodes on the border

[tulip sail]

yes thats exactly what we need

[mighty glade]

No, we need the P.1500 monster

[fallen fractal]

why not Sturmtiger, or even Schwerer Gustav?

[solid gate]

Who is better?

[tulip sail]

if done right the sturm could work

[fallen fractal]

@solid gate feels like T62 more expensive to play.

[solid gate]

ok thanks

But is better than Obj?

[limber aurora]

I got a deal for the angry Connor today for $11 Canadian, comes with the tank fully equipped and with the camo. Also get a free week of prem. Is the deal worth it? Just asking for a second opinion. It’s also got amazing credit making

Alright thanks for the second opinion

[tulip sail]

@limber aurora yes take it. if you can learn to drive backwards its great

i usally bring in about 70-80k on a loss

[limber aurora]

Ain’t there a new deal everyday or something like that?

I got the Lowe deal on like Wednesday

[tulip sail]

on occation but not everyday

[limber aurora]

No I did not get the Lowe

I was away at the cottage and had no wifi access

Saw it just as I left so I could collect the huge crate

Got home like a hour ago

Lowe just prints credits

My friend has one and he don’t use it, only I used itwhen I played on his phone

[tulip sail]

so does the ac but the ac has a higher coefficient

[tulip sail]

yeah it does check blitzstars

lol nope

[echo basin]

Is5 = dope
Is6 = dope
Is3= dope
Is2= dope
Is= dope
T44= good
Obj262U = OP
T54ltwgth= good
Every single russian tank = GOOD-OP

Shush I'm damm pro at is6

[valid lodge]

Angry Connor is great, once you get the hang of the driving backwards thing.

[tulip sail]

is5 is ok i wouldnt say its sucks

[brave juniper]

Gun is awful> hits 70% of shots per match, big cupolas> its smaller than them americans hull armour is bad> it bounces 640 shots like every time but ofc the 310 and 280 ones always go in

[tulip sail]

nort really its armour is pretty contemporary

[brave juniper]

Welp for me its just like taht with russians

Big guns miss me but the small ones always get me :/

Well russian guns just have one thing about them thst is aiming a lil bit like 1 or 1.5seconds and then shots ususlly go where u aim,im p.sure u havent compared ever the russian cupolas/hatches and the ameriacn/british ones if ur sayin that

But i do admit theres something about some russian tanks having horrible pen

Let me see

[tulip sail]

the cupola is fairly small although its gun its pretty bad but its dpm is again pretty contemporary also were talking about the is5

[brave juniper]

T26e5 m6 exp and chryler k and the tiers X heavys, although the exp doesnt has a cupola or hatch it has a really big hitpoint in the upper plate of the turret that has like 60-80mm i think and can be penned ez, t26e5 just has a huge cupola chrysler k is similar in size to russians and the tier Xs just have big weakspots so i guess thats why the big hatches/cupolas

Yeah though the 65 is even smaller than the 120 one and people dont even usually aim for those,they either try to get the turret sides or my front plate,thats what i mostly get in battles,since i never stop moving people just dont aim at those,though this doesnt apply for all who drive is5s so that makes it weak to HE if the enemy can aim and fire quickly

While the gun is horrible at aiming if u run it with the correct setup it can work,usually i finish first in my is5 battles although its dpm is by far not the greatest of all t8 heavies ,the hull is trollish,and it can be penned like any tank but it bounces more often than you can shoot,and its jot that the turret is weak,what i meant was that TDs with high pen like ISu or tier9s pramo can pen the sides of the turret if youre not fully facing em frontally,i will not say that its a superb tank,its just balanced and has a gun that needs a reliable commander to work,the sides are nice too,but yeah cupolas are a big oof if u fight good players with very good aiming tanks

American turrets are more likely to get penned if you turn it a bit,since they have such a shape and lenght

[tulip sail]

because the cupolas are about the same as other t8 heavies and they said turret sides wich afaik almost all turret sides are weakish

[brave juniper]

^ 🤔 what m4a1 said

[tulip sail]

the is5's hull is not flat its a pike nose

[brave juniper]

^^

Not as good as is3 nose but gets about the same bounces

The one u prob mean is IS 6,now thats a really bad tank

[tulip sail]

the is3's is 10mm less then the is5

[brave juniper]

:fr? When i fight agaisnt is3 i have it harder than vs a is5

[tulip sail]

but yeah the is6 is pretty bad while is5 is ok

according to blitzhanger the is5 is 120mm while the is3 is 110mm

[brave juniper]

The pike nose ruins it for me in is3 and is3 D,is5 is easier to handle if u keep distance and dont brawl face to face

[tulip sail]

and wotb its the same as bh

[brave juniper]

That being said ^ all while i drive my is5 vs other IS's

[tulip sail]

tbh i rarely play my is's

[brave juniper]

The IS i play the most is IS4 😂

[tulip sail]

lol never made it to there

[brave juniper]

Rip that thing is just ok in every aspect,it has a good frontal armor,can side scrape,a reliable gun and good pen,oh but no spotting range and its slower than is7

It also has more visible weakspots than ur average is7

[regal zealot]

IS-7’s hull is so easy to pen with my ST-1’s AP shells running with the CS. Same with Maus cheeks (if they’re unangled)

[brave juniper]

Turret upper plate, lower plate,the upper front plate with good pen shells, and only for tds and such the turret sides

St-I is the best tier 9 heavy,though the players cant drive it how its meant to be driven and thats why it sucks :/ my wr in it was 65% after 400 battles

[regal zealot]

For me, poor positioning is what usually kills me

[tulip sail]

did the amx m4 49 get a nerf? i seem to get penned more then i remember

[brave juniper]

Also to finish what we were saying,tbh im sayin this again,russian hatches are smaller than average or almost normal when compared to other nations,the heavys are weak in ur eyes but strong if u dont just use their stats anf use the battle arena well @gentle wasp

[tulip sail]

granted its been awhile

[brave juniper]

Welp,like any tank though

Theyre not mean to brawl 100% of time u can plsy em passively bc of their long reload

[regal zealot]

In which areas tho? @tulip sail

[tulip sail]

front hull plate

[brave juniper]

And oh yeah all tanks did get somewhat nerfed because of the 15% chance there was before to bounce grey zones,since now its 5% some tanks have become even more grey ,it was some sort of armor that helped a lot of tanks get impossible bounces

[regal zealot]

Lower plate or prammo

[tulip sail]

from techtrees

oh yeah i forgot about the 15% thing

[brave juniper]

🤔

[tulip sail]

i was hidding my lfp so ik that wasnt it

[regal zealot]

The cupola? That’s pretty weak too, 60mm of armor there

[tulip sail]

nah the trail was dead on so maybe pramo

[regal zealot]

From what tank?

[brave juniper]

Welp if its a prem american or a td it may have just penned front plate

Lots of big pen tanks in t8 theze days 👀 soeven amx 49 is not safe

[tulip sail]

it was a persh

[brave juniper]

Werent u overangled?

Or did he perhaps manage to hit the lower plate,theres a spot that can be penned in the front just at the very bottom of the armor @tulip sail

[tulip sail]

i was hiding the lower plate with a rock

and was dead on

[brave juniper]

👀

Then something weird is going on,because frontally the turret has no weak sides ,i cant tell really what might've penned ya since i didnt see the replay but i guess thats just how rng works

[tulip sail]

could be pramo or a bit oif lag

[brave juniper]

Mayhaps

I havent fought a amx m4 49 in a while though so i need to check what may have happened to its armor

[tulip sail]

so i just did something i didnt think was posible

i front lined in a rev and won

[brave juniper]

What was a rev again?

[tulip sail]

m4a1 rev the t8 m4

[brave juniper]

Oh yeah u can do that in meds,the rev isnt excluded

[tulip sail]

its got a t5 hull and i was fighting an is3 and a lowe

[brave juniper]

A t 5 hull but a t8 turret

[tulip sail]

with only 90mm

[brave juniper]

That actuslly bounce

[tulip sail]

armour

[bright folio]

Hmmm

[brave juniper]

Tbh idk how

[tulip sail]

neither do i but i did top dmg

[bright folio]

The whole selling point of the m4a1 rev is the 105mm gun.

[brave juniper]

But people just manage to frontline in tanks with no armor,bounce and do crazy stuff

[tulip sail]

it makes no sense to me but im not complaining

[brave juniper]

I mean idk how again youtubers go and frontline in tanks like rev ans bounce more than meds with good turrets

[bright folio]

Because they know what they’re doing, or get replays from people who know what they’re doing.

[tulip sail]

true but still how a hv gun bounces on 50mm of armour is whats weird

[bright folio]

Mantlets are tricky.

[fluid parrot]

M51 Super Sherman 105mm gun sexy

[placid adder]

Any good tip for the t26e4, I can't do anything good

I can't even shoot straight ffs

[ocean maple]

Maybe try aiming

[placid adder]

I did but im not used to turret

[plucky robin]

when are they gonna nerff the smasher

[placid adder]

The turret is something else tho

It's slow but like something jamming

Or is it normal

[zinc marlin]

New tank?

[ebon tundra]

@placid adder get ro a Hill and ist ur gundepresion .

This is a Type 61

[placid adder]

I'm used to non turreted tanks

So it's kinda new to me to try the American pren

[ocean maple]

@zinc marlin yes that's new

[ebon tundra]

Look in the japanese Tech tree at Tier IX...

[ocean maple]

I see a type 61, but that's obviously a type 91 according to your epic gamer brain

So this must be new tank

[dim sail]

That's a type 61

[shut flame]

Best tier 9 medium

[west ledge]

Well yes but actually no @shut flame

[shut flame]

😉

[narrow shadow]

Amx30 is clearly the best (read: most op), type aint got nothing on it

[glacial solar]

t54 is a strong contenter for the title

[narrow shadow]

Bruh, AMX30 wrecks the T54

[glacial solar]

not really

everytime i meet a amx in the t54, i rekt it

[narrow shadow]

Then you are clearly meeting bad drivers. AMX30 has great turret, gun depression and better gun than t54

[glacial solar]

not really bad drivers (55%-61% range), but i just keep on angling and keep close to them, they just bounce off

[west ledge]

Prot is better than t54

[glacial solar]

maybe, but most drivers are morons

[narrow shadow]

Impossible. It has 232mm pen, that is more than enough to go thru T54 front

Sure, some may bounce, but you make it seem like u bounce them reliably

[glacial solar]

CQC, maybe its the turret

or the sides at extreme angles

[narrow shadow]

So are we talking extremes or a normal fight? As for turret, on a ridge, AMX will toy with T54 with the 10 degrees of gun dep

[scarlet nest]

Well but amx have better gun

[glacial solar]

for ridges, i do the thing where i move forward and backward and make all sorts of werid angles and snipe weakspots until they rush me

[scarlet nest]

And AMX is prem tank

[glacial solar]

then again i am playing on SEA, so there are quite a few players of questionable use to their own team

[winged fractal]

Is angry Connor any good?

[brave juniper]

Yes @winged fractal

[surreal haven]

I want to angry Connor but it cost way expensive

about RM 39.90 with no tax

[tulip sail]

I got mine for 10$

[valid lodge]

That's about the same price as 40 rm

[tulip sail]

Oh lol I'm an idiot I had the converter set on the wrong thing

[solid gate]

Smasher is a capitalism kv2 and shall also be nerf

[solid gate]

Bruh they won’t nerf paid tanks they want money smh

[snow zodiac]

Sad but true

[worldly bronze]

Heavys Japan

[snow zodiac]

Too big for the existing maps

[robust dagger]

I hope the T-34-85 Victory comes tomorrow 😍

[scarlet nest]

Omg this tank was meme

Forward max 12km
Backward 32km

Now i see why it was so slow

[wise valley]

Reminds me of the archer on pc

[scarlet nest]

I think this is archer

[robust dagger]

This is a Archer with a special Skin and 230% Credit Bonus.

[wise valley]

Shame the archer and Achilles would have been a nice lead into the fv4005 line rather than the crusader and Sherman firefly

[proven jasper]

How good is the stock t49?

[cedar ridge]

Feels like a up tiered M41

[proven jasper]

I just got it today 😅. It's really slow . I get a feeling of heavy armour but it's made of paper just like the bulldog

If I get the derp gun, won't HE make reasonable dmg on the enemies? @gentle wasp

[fast compass]

That will change once you get top modules and max crew.

Use the derp, the 90mm top gun makes it a worse ru without hep

[proven jasper]

Wtf then y r the y49 players using AP all the tym and missing shots?

Yea, my bad @gentle wasp

@fast compass explain about this tanks playstyle.. I'm so excited

[fast compass]

Rush in shoot rush out. Not as simple as it sounds but it essentially is that

Shoot while one the move, you tend to hit more shots than waiting 6 seconds for the sim circle to reduce to the minimum which is pretty bad anyways

[proven jasper]

Oh okay.. anyway I hope I'll miss less than my su152 which even misses at 20m

On tanks like Lowe, isn't HEAT a better option for the sides?

[fast compass]

Learn when to load he and when to load heat so you just have to shoot when you rush targets. German and Russian heavies use heat on side and rear

[proven jasper]

Oh k

[fast compass]

When you can't pen using he, heat may be better. But you can splash for 200 or so damage anywhere on most tanks if you can't peak for too long

[proven jasper]

That's a good tank then... I'll max it out soon

Isn't ISU's AP pen a little low?

I was about to buy it but I thought t49 would be good for peek a boom so..

[fast compass]

Just don't play the t49 like a td and you should be fine

[proven jasper]

Hmmmm either way I can farm some dmg

That's nice

[dire sky]

Is the KV-5 worth it?

[formal roost]

Suggested Smasher Nerfs (to base figures, no equipment no provisions)

AP penetration: -10 mm
HEAT penetration: -30 mm
HE penetration: -5 mm
Rate of fire: -0.5 shots/min
Shell velocity: -125 m/sec
Aim time: +0.75 sec
Dispersion: +0.1
Gun Depression: -1
Gun Elevation: -3
Terrain Resistance: +0.1 / +0.1 / +0.1
Hull Traverse: -3 degrees/sec
Camo [still, moving]: -6% / -3%
Camo after shot: -1.5% / -0.5%

These changes will make the Smasher’s gun worse than the SU-152’s (but still a lot better than the KV-2’s). Gun depression, hull traverse and camo ratings are a lot closer to the KV-2’s.

[solid gate]

Put the marder II BACK in

[robust dagger]

@dire sky Nope, KV-4 is the better choice.

[short flame]

best choice is Lowe

[bright folio]

Kv5 is fairly cheap this time around.

When the Lowe came around for 7500 gold, that was seen as a good deal.

The KV-5 is only 6k gold.

[thick trout]

You forgot lowe is good and kv5 isnt

[bright folio]

IMO the KV-5 has more armor and a slightly more trollish armor profile than the KV-4, but that’s it.

[short flame]

Lowe had also legendary camo and all equip slots, and lowe is one of the best tier 8 tanks while kv5 is totally trash.

KV5 has an awful trash gun just like kv4, while having Super huge profile and very bad turret + no gun depression and no traverse speed, Lowe is just way better in any aspect

[bright folio]

Who said that I was comparing the KV-5 to the Lowe?

[thick trout]

You were comparing the price and the value for money

[bright folio]

I personally agree. The Lowe is a better tank.

[short flame]

Lowe was cheap. kv5 is not cheap because even 3k golds are wasted.

its just a fat huge tank full of tumors with an awful gun

[bright folio]

I was using the Lowe deal as a comparison of price. That’s it.

Also, the KV-4 has a fairly decent gun, aside from bad DPM.

The Lowe has a fantastic gun as T8 heavies go.

[short flame]

AIM TIME ISNT BAD:
longer aimtime than is5
pretty good pen? its a bit above average pen, nothing special, lowe has pretty good pen, or amx m49.

my boy kv4's gun is just awful

there's literally NO other worse 310/320 dmg gun worse than kv4's one at tier 8

its literally the worst gun compared to the 2 worst guns at tier 8.

[quasi mirage]

Dat kv5 handling

[carmine crow]

👀

[hollow notch]

Why did you select the trash gun on the kv5?

Zis-6m all the way

Kv5 is the closest tank to a maus that I have found

[plucky summit]

Definitely not, maybe the new E 75 tank will be closest

[thick trout]

Maybe mauschen is closest?

[plucky summit]

Hard to tell, Maus doesn’t have a big hatch, and Lowe doesn’t have a big one but not outstanding frontal armor either

[wise valley]

muaschen pre nerf prob

[plucky summit]

Wasn’t it only the VK that got armor nerf?

Chen got ripped from 2k HP

[mighty glade]

ye

[wise valley]

wouldnt be much of a diff considering how much the vk 100 still has

[plucky summit]

Less than many t8 heavies 😐

It’s 1450/1540 isn’t it?

[wise valley]

talking about the vk armor nerf not the hp of the chen

[plucky summit]

Ah

It only has an extra weakspot with that cupola, but shooting it was a gamble and trying to pen a good player was a struggle

[wise valley]

scary

imagine a tog with the 107 zis

[brave juniper]

Weight 22t tho? Isnt it heavier? @mighty glade

[mighty glade]

it was 2 minutes of photoshop its not perfect

[brave juniper]

👀 👀 👀

Meanwhile here im seeing the t49 A lol

[mighty glade]

lol

[brave juniper]

Now THAT thing is Op,all other tanks succumb agaisnt the t49 A squad

[mighty glade]

yeah

i never got the T49A wil the event was going

but got ammo racked constantly by it.

[brave juniper]

I never even reached t8 while the event was going so i never saw it I.G,only saw it in vids but dang if i had gotten it my 12 yrs old soul wouldve bullied everyone lol

[mighty glade]

rip

[gusty totem]

I didn't even have a T5 when that event was going

So I had no chance in getting that tank

[mighty glade]

i had at least tier 8 i dont remember

[snow zodiac]

I didn’t want to miss out on the decent rewards for a temporary tank, so I missed out on the idioticy

[mighty glade]

i didnt get it so,

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi mirage]

u only missed a few rewards

lets be thankful WG never sold the t49a

[snow zodiac]

Yep

[quasi mirage]

it would be even more broke because by the end the mobile t49a was more broke than a pc user

[snow zodiac]

Did you hear what it does with a PC user driving it?

[hollow notch]

@plucky summit e75 does not have the same feel as the maus. Kv5 does.

[mighty glade]

Mauschen

[limber aurora]

Kv5 worth the buy? I’ve been seeing a bunch of them and they seem half decent.

[neat nimbus]

i would buy it if came with the dragon camo

[wise valley]

Not with imo too many weakspots decent side scrapper tho

[brave juniper]

4th t22 crate and got it, worth ittbh

[frigid whale]

@limber aurora op tank the angry connor

[solid gate]

WG gimme the Shinobi, I've had enough of Angry Connor offers. It's been 3 years now I don't see Chi Nu Kai in shop

[chrome cedar]

Who said shuanjinbi before?

[formal roost]

WG should turn the Sherman Firefly into a TD. After all, it is the British counterpart to the Jackson.

Suggested changes:

1. remove top 470 hp engine, introduce new stock 425 hp engine
2. nerf terrain resistance to the same as the Sherman V
3. nerf hitpoints by 100
   (This is to slow the tank down and discourage players from going front line in it.)
4. buff gun mantlet armour to 90 mm (Historically accurate)
5. buff aim time to 1.82 (same as Angry Connor)
6. buff dispersion to 0.307 (same as AT 8 and Loza’s Sherman)
7. buff camo ratings to the same as the M36 Jackson

The tank would be less nippy and more fragile, but would have quicker aiming and better gun accuracy. It would also have better camo, and may bounce a shot or two off its improved gun mantlet when hull down. Overall, it would feel less like a medium and more like a turreted TD, which is what it should be.

[heady marsh]

slow clap

[bright folio]

I personally like the Firefly as is. I feel like with that set of buffs/nerfs, it would have some trouble with low alpha when compared to other tds. That’s just my opinion, however.

[zinc condor]

is that a Maus with a rear turret and sloped round turret?

[hushed shadow]

It’s a Maus with an is7 turret

[thick trout]

And 0° depression so its turret is useless*

[robust dagger]

Thats a good point! Buff Smasher 🐷

[zinc condor]

it at least like have 2 degrees

[fluid parrot]

@formal roost nah firefly is the counterpart of easy eight

British 17Pdr SP Achilles