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#vehicles-discussion
surreal haven
tulip sail
Oh the ft17
surreal haven
Lol, the FT and stuff VIC and
tulip sail
The vi was interwar
tulip sail
All of the tanks that we had that saw service during ww1 was removed
regal zealot
@surreal haven please don’t use political figures as your pfp
surreal haven
Is it wong @regal zealot
Its only him showing to think, god why everyone is mini modding
regal zealot
Not really ideal imo
surreal haven
I hope that WW1 Tanks will be back
regal zealot
Miss the tier Is, the FT-esque tanks
surreal haven
and that will be 2114-2118
regal zealot
Most of all would be the Medium I
tulip sail
Bc would you rather a mod warn you about it or have another person say "hey that's not really a good idea since others have gotten warned bc of that"
And I highly doubt they will ever return the new t1s would demolish them
Unless it's a special event
pure kestrel
World war 1 tank would die instantly compared to the tanks we have I the game right now
elfin meadow
The only thing I’m actually happy they got rid of is the T82
surreal haven
BT-7 Art. is annoying tbh
they'll kill u instantly
BT-42 would be fun if they add Finland
tulip sail
I'm indifferent to it since I dont play >4 and I kept most that became collectors but from a history buff the fact they no longer represent alot of historically important and interesting tanks does annoy me and its literally a worse bt-7 art
pure kestrel
My pz iV D or hetzer would rekt world war 1 tanks there slower less armor and have less firepower
tulip sail
Your panzer iv d wouldn't be what's fighting them
They would be fighting the tier 1s like the r35 or panzer 2
pure kestrel
The pz 2 would still demolish a ww1 tank the armor on them is made to stop small calibers and pz 2 has like medium or even large calibers
tulip sail
Not really at most the pz2 had maybe 38mm hardly enough to stop a 57mm or a 6pndr
pure kestrel
And what about the American tier 1 tank it would destroy them for sure
tulip sail
Now the sa18 that's just a different sad story
And well yeah most ww1 could do something to it but ofc a tank that's over 20 years newer during a time that rapidly advancing would be much better
chilly cargo
What’s the two tubes on top of the super Pershing
tulip sail
Help with recoil since it's got an upgraded gun iirc
tulip sail
The panzer1 would be the most useless tank to add into the game all it had was 2 mmgs
Although technically we used to have a variant of the panzer1 (panzerjager1)
surreal haven
How about FT-AC
rancid mauve
Buff Smasher. It’s not fun enough.🤷🏻♂️
lyric oriole
Got removed in 5.5, all Tank destroyers tiers 2-3 got removed in 5.5
rancid mauve
@lyric oriole lol, I think we figured it out mate😅
lyric oriole
Malaysian_Nationalist kept inquiring and I was simply answering his questions.
rancid mauve
Ahhh didn’t see that. 🤷🏻♂️
woeful pumice
I wish they kept the autoloader on the FT AC
It was so fun despite the tank being bad
solid dust
Why does the max gun on the vk 28.01 have no he shells?
I thought I remembered it having he shells
lyric oriole
@solid dust it never had HE shells, the one with the Muzzle brake has HE shells and the 10.5 have HE shells but that cannon has never had them
It doesn't have it on the VK 36.01 (H) and it didn't have it in the VK 30.01 (H) either
solid dust
I have it on the vk 30.01 h @lyric oriole
I see it’s just for that gun I didn’t realize that
Thank you for the clarification @lyric oriole
vital urchin
@neat nimbus as someone who picked Japan as their fist line yeah Japan no good only good times when practice enough is Chi nu, chi ri with the 3 bullet mag, STA-1 for sniping and the other two......haven't gone that far yet....just need more credits for the type 61.......
solid gate
Just got the STB-1, I am learning how to use it, the only medium Tier 10 I owned is E50 M, and I unlocked the Leopard 1 also
zealous anchor
@solid gate How do you find it? I am considering it too
solid gate
@zealous anchor very interesting tank, the little turret with sloped armor is its best characteristic, it's difficult to hit and it can easily bounce other medium calibers. Combine this with its 10° of gun depression and you obtain a good peek a boo tank. It's not fast like leopard, but mobility is not bad. The sloped armor at the front can help every now and then. Gun is good enough, the same as the final one in Type 61. And probably STB will be armor buffed in 6.2, especially the turret. Not bad at all, I say
zealous anchor
OK Thank u!!
solid gate
@zealous anchor you're welcome
valid lodge
They should have sold the new Vk for 8k. A lot of people have been complaining about premiums being OP but the new vk is basically a slightly weaker vk 100 with better credit efficiency. That's exactly the kinda premium I've heard people requesting in the past and what some people believe premiums should have been. Had it been 8k more people might have bought it to help support getting more premiums like that.
clear jasper
Anyone has tips for me how to play the is-5? I never found that tank enjoyable to play cuz his gun.
elfin orbit
A p p r o a c h
daring pagoda
A n d d e s t r o y
daring pagoda
When will blitz release a m1 Abraham premium tank for us which would be expensive like everything else
solid gate
Never
daring pagoda
Oh why it’s a good tank suggestion is it op ;-;
It would make a great medium in the tier x or ix games
daring pagoda
Kek
solid gate
Nono no
daring pagoda
Srly wats wrong with it
calm inlet
it would be unbalanced
zealous anchor
Huehue
honest creek
I wan a driftable Hellcat
regal zealot
If the Hellcat and the Blackcat were different tanks at the same tier, they would be quite different.
M18 Hellcat, tier VI LT, 76mm cannon with Hellcat turret. 72-80kph top speed
M18 Blackcat, tier VI TD, 90mm cannon with T25/2 turret, 60kph top speed
lyric oriole
Black cat just sounds like a M36 Jackson if you ask me
regal zealot
Not really, it’s the current Hellcat with top modules
The actual Hellcat has a 76mm gun with the stock turret
lyric oriole
Yeah, Type 64 is basically Real life Hellcat with lower speed
regal zealot
Hull is different, turret is the same on the Type 64
lyric oriole
I mean module wise, the shape is slightly different but that's due to using a different vehicle hull
regal zealot
It would be nice to have an actual Hellcat LT
Not some modified tank with a Hellcat’s turret.
fallow venture
How to play the ARL-39 aka the potato tank?
plucky summit
I call it the pill with a tumor, but basically you play passive aggressive, using your 310 damage at your will whenever an enemy gets caught without a shell in their gun
solid gate
Type 64 is a Duster hull with a Hellcat turret.
plucky summit
Man I wish TOG gets the Brit heavy consumables 😂
neat nimbus
@vital urchin well I picked Japan as second line USA was first then Germany
solid gate
Lol I actually saw a hellcat irl and yeah it's the stock version of the in game one
surreal haven
Lol
raven jacinth
M1A1 Abrams would be balanced in WoTb, the turret ring would be such a weakpoint as well as the roof
not to mention sides are a bit weak
vital urchin
Goood.....better than me🤣
neat nimbus
and a high tier one
clear jasper
T-34-85 Rudy should be Polish
next ice
it’s Russian :/
tulip sail
The fcm pak 40 should be German but for some unknown reason its french
sullen depot
The M1A2C abrams is the best tank and would be too good for Russia’s tanks in a war we would win
C is what made it better
fossil raft
KV-2 have more damage than tX
neat nimbus
thats too long
solid gate
Why are you playing t1 smh my head
neat nimbus
8 mins. took me for a battle
solid gate
Don't play tier one ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wise valley
free exp to tier three like a good boi
plucky summit
“Smh my head” is getting me so triggered 😂
But yeah, tier I isn’t really active since it already skips to tier II in tutorial basically unless it’s a new line starting which is usually skipped through free XP
tulip sail
Also your only matched up with people who have more the 5k games iirc
At that low of teir
plucky summit
Someone with a platoon of tier Is would take forever 😓
tulip sail
Oof might want to start a movie for that wait
wind adder
Tiger 2 should be counted as a light tank
tulip sail
Why
wind adder
Because no armor lol
plucky robin
is 8 has a weird play style
woeful pumice
It has an uncomfortable play style
wise valley
btw do i just reverse scrape with the is3, seems to be anything else just leaves ur armor flat and exposed.
hollow notch
That and hull down is about all you can do
wise valley
shame, its armor only seems good when ur grinding ur tier 7, in a fair fight its meh at most
dpm is also lack luster compared to other nation's versions or premiums
calm inlet
@wise valley dont waste your time setting up a reverse sidescrape
wise valley
i mean already had doing it
i just either just now peek a boom/hull down or find an alternative
raven bridge
I want the ebr in blitz
solid gate
Panhard EBR 105? If so the maps are too small for it
solid gate
It can go 100kph so wg will never add it in blitz
raven bridge
I know, but it's cool and the weird 2 driving thingy part of it
tulip sail
If they did I'd probably go much slower
raven bridge
where you can go faster
solid gate
too much programming for wg...
raven bridge
and a bit too complex imo
tulip sail
Hmm?
raven bridge
for blitz, but really they should add a slower ebr
tulip sail
It seems very interesting
raven bridge
very much
neat nimbus
So I should grind to get the elec bis
raven bridge
elc bis is easy to grind for but I didnt actually have fun playing it
that's just me thought but it's probably due to a high skill ceiling it has
so what I'm saying I'm trash basically
hollow notch
Hey, if you actually realize you are bad you are better than 75% of the players
raven bridge
lmao facts though
but back to topic the elc i found hard to play sooooo, if ur gonna grind to elc might as well continue the line to the amx 12t cause that's a fun tank
neat nimbus
alright
solid gate
Elc bis was a fun tank
hot jackal
I think in blitz the turret should have a bigger arc. Maybe 90* on each side would make it better but it might be a bit op
tulip sail
Is it just me or does the t37 feel lack luster?
solid gate
Slightly
fossil violet
just you
tulip sail
All of the guns feel really slow to reload compared to the other 76mm t6s and just playing it feels average to slightly below
fossil violet
play the autoloader
raven bridge
just try the amx 12t before the nerf
solid gate
Am I the only one who thinks the e25 is slightly over rated?
fossil violet
just you
tulip sail
Yeah the e25 is really good
solid gate
Every e25 I see barely gets 1k damage and dies first
raven bridge
its annoying in platoons other than that it's free damage for my t49
tulip sail
That's not the tanks fualt and why compare a t7 to a t8
solid gate
It is but tbh it’s kinda bigger than pc but 3.2? That’s half a 90mms reload
raven bridge
cause I can fight it in the t49 :)
tulip sail
Ofc its gonna be food for it the t49 is a teir higher and a derp
raven bridge
see? we agree on something
solid gate
See more proof it’s over rated
tulip sail
That's like discounting a Cromwell bc a smasher can 1 shot it
raven bridge
but, the difference is the Cromwell is fast and the smasher is slow
solid gate
The y5 bis which has 3.5 reload and 1275 max hp can take on a e25
tulip sail
You're missing the point
solid gate
And let’s not forgot the y5 bis has the smallest t7 turret
raven bridge
y5 makes me sad
tulip sail
The bis has over 200 less dom then the e25
solid gate
3.5 vs 3.2 one word two words adrenaline Hitpoints
tulip sail
E25 can use adrenaline aswell and has better stats in almost everything but slightly more dmg and hp
solid gate
Wait wtf war gaming
tulip sail
What?
solid gate
Elc has more armor yet it weighs less???
tulip sail
Yeah and?
solid gate
Well you just missed the point that WG messed up the weights
tulip sail
No it's very possible that it just weighs less do to different internal components being different and possibly missing or just simply weighing less
solid gate
Not the elc holds up to 89 shells max
My apologies my keyboards being dumb I meant to say note it holds 90 shells
tulip sail
And could have a lighter radio no turret basket its engine and transmission could weigh less
It's not a far jump in weight to be out of the question
hot jackal
WZ-111G-FT? worth it for the tier 10?
tulip sail
Exactly so we dont know where the extra weight comes from or rather the lack of it however we can look at the model itself and take guesses
solid gate
In the description for the teaser of y5 elc it said the turret was reinforced
tulip sail
Yup and on the model the engine doesnt fully fill the engine compartment as well as completely lacks an engine deck
solid gate
It does still have some add on stuff
tulip sail
Which coupled with the large possibility of it not having a turret basket could be the reason of it being lighter
solid gate
The elc was intended for airborne delivery right ? Meaning a basket would be needed?
tulip sail
No that would imply that there more likely to not have one to save weight
Any ways this was a lot if fun discussing this but I gtg good night
solid gate
The elc weighs 7 tons but the t34 85 has no basket and this resulted in many crew injuries
Meaning it would a no brainer for a tank that’s airborne to be expendable
tulip sail
Yup and iirc neither did the original t-34
Though remember at that time planes weren't extremely strong so you had to save every bit of weight you can
solid gate
What was that one plane called that was a giant flying boat that war thunder has?
tulip sail
Pby?
solid gate
Maybe
So I asked where to put this before and I got recommended here .Here is my ideas on a kpz 70 overhaul first off 40kmh max speed compared to the 65kmh irl is just an insult WG should bump it to 65 or 60kmh just like the 50b and is7 as for the frontal armor historically it was around 250 alone in the front turret and front hull and this was without the internal spaced armor I will continue shortly
surreal haven
When u cant get the T-34 from USSR but you take the T-34 from China.
STONKS
wise valley
So give it an armor buff plus speed? thonk
solid gate
There’s more but slowdown mode
plucky summit
There’s this term called balance
solid gate
We all know the gun is a joke but has decent pen for t9 instead of 15 second reload which is slower than an e100 and a jag panzer e100
plucky summit
Well like, you’re talking about tier Xs
wise valley
It has about slightly below average pen actually considering tier 10 heavies
solid gate
Instead of 15 seconds bring it down to 13 with giant chocolate bar and 12.8 with both BARS as for dispersion o.320 unmodified please I will continue shortly
My point I’m trying to say is the kpz 70
Belongs at tier 10 and not a t9 I’m suggesting the stats for such a rework
wise valley
U gave it about a 400 ish dpm boost with a much more manageable reload and armor and speed
Tone it down buddy
solid gate
I haven’t even started on the downsides
plucky summit
Run along then 👀
solid gate
For turret weakspots and two on top
In real life it had a giant auto cannon and a view “box”
wise valley
So is it going to be like foch td line where it’s big af too shoot at then
solid gate
Coincidentally the auto cannon is actually modeled in and tucked away on the turret
Depends how big WG wants to make it
Maybe old e5 size but no armor
Side armor was 100 historically no unique armor
plucky summit
But it should NOT have 250mm front going 60
plucky summit
Still, it’s a chunky boi and should go like, 40 tops
plucky summit
Add up to 250 as in 250mm effective armor with primary angle?
solid gate
Also for the chunky part it was more nimble than leopard 1s at the time
plucky summit
Main battle tank eh? 😂
solid gate
A jack of all trades to be exact
plucky summit
Turret is pretty wack
solid gate
Hence it turns its turret it’s done for
plucky summit
But we can’t jump into the pit of realism here, balance is still needed
solid gate
T10 1960-2050 hp
plucky summit
I get annoyed fighting the kpf because it can hulldown decently and do more damage than... all of the tier IX heavies?
solid gate
Not once have I been able to use it in hulldown situations
It has no gun depression piss poor aim time
plucky summit
Well yeah, chunky mantlet and high DPS, the armor is eh
solid gate
But here’s another thing about this rework
Since it might come off as pay 2 play I would say implement the tank as a limited t10
plucky summit
As like put it in the tree for a while and then take it back out?
solid gate
Exactly
plucky summit
Doesn’t sound like a WG move but meh
solid gate
Also give it 8 degrees of gun dep 6 is hell
plucky summit
8 breaches some points, no gun that chunky should get those dynamics
solid gate
Flashbacks to kranvagn
Like I said I’m watering it down to hell
Plus it’s short and weighs light in heavy tank culture
Meaning it can easily lose face hugging
solid gate
Yea
plucky summit
Well, just for that Progetto in testing
wise valley
Oof American line. T32 to m103 isn’t worth
neat nimbus
lot of bounces
crude gorge
T32 armor is indestructible when you go hull down but the problem is that gun, that gun is terrible
wise valley
Duh not enough pen unless u want o dump gold
If the t32 got a 15 pen buff it would be useable and balanced since it wouldn’t have top in class dpm or pen but be a powerhouse for defense
213-215 mm pen is all u need tbh
crude gorge
Yeah true, the American tech tree at tier 8 is quite terrible, t32 doesn't have good penetration, t69 is the same, t28 is too slow, Pershing is just painful to grind, t49 and t28 prototype is not that bad though
wise valley
Prototype has a hard grind tho
Very recommended to double line down the nonturrected first
crude gorge
T95 is worth the grind, I like the 155 millimeters
wise valley
American medium line in general is weird imo for teaching people about mediums
crude gorge
American medium are the rarest kind of mediums you can see in battles, well at least in tier 7 and 8, I have only seen the Pershing one time in regular battles that is not me
plucky summit
I see super P more than I see P xD
crude gorge
Yes those super pershing, I see them frequently too, I forgot about those because every time I fight those thing I thought they are heavies not mediums
plucky summit
They have better armor than a lot of heavies 😑
crude gorge
That armor is just a nightmare to fight, especially in a tier 7 tank
solid gate
T7 can’t even pen the hull
crude gorge
The medium that bullies other medium and some heavies into submission
solid gate
I don’t believe in gold spamming
As a result I only carry up to 1-6 gold shells
Prototype was fun to grind before the prems showed up
crude gorge
Everything changed when the premium attack
crude gorge
Only wargaming the master of all 4 tanks can stop them but when the players need them the most they vanished
wise valley
Super Pershing isn’t too scary just aiming time on blitz is aids compared pc so hitting the weakspots sucks
It’s the Capola and missile tubes
Overall American mediums were so tall and less mobile and varying in firepower compared to the rest of the nations until like tier 9
solid gate
The m48 Patton is a strange tank
crude gorge
So is the m48 Patton a good tank if you compare it to other tier x mediums? I don't have the tank yet so idk
solid gate
Front what I’ve seen it’s in a gray area
From* it has great gun dep of 9 degrees but poor gun handling for sniper standards
crude gorge
9 degrees is good, for hull down
woeful pumice
M60 is better than m48?
solid gate
From what I hear on it more HP and slightly better gun stats
eager eagle
.... stuff u wg
thick trout
^ this comes from all those morons who say "I am buying this tank, i dont care how much it costs"
eager eagle
i aalready got it from last time
hexed bridge
Yeah, but it is still a lot compared to the others
zealous anchor
It's up to you
wise moth
@crude gorge Bruh, American tier 8's are amazing. T69 and M26 are the best 2 mediums at tier 8, and T32 is also amazing.
@thick trout I'm one of those morons lol. I've been waiting for WG to sell the Skorpion for over 9 months now lol. And I'm sitting on all the cheap gold from those Christmas boxes still, so the Skorpion cost me less than $20
thick trout
I have no idea why you would publicly announce that you dont care what it costs. It is literally an invitation for WG to make it stupidly overpriced as you have seen in the store. Its over double what a normal tier 8 prem costs. At these prices WG know they will not sell many, and so they need to make them have a strong selling point, which is basically making them better and better than tech tree tanks.
fiery crown
Well I did have some gold saved up from ads....so it won't cost much if you got like 10k gold or even 8k-9k gold
Its the first time for it come(not in crates) so it will be 17.5k ....thats always the price for first time when tier 8 comes
I waited for it to come in stores for a long time (didn't wanna gamble on crates)....and finally it appears not in crates
solid gate
Would have paid even 20-25k gold
thick trout
See what WG have done? It is now acceptable for a tier 8 to be 17k gold. Gold is slowly losing value as WG keep on putting prices up. The issue is that the price of buying gold is not going down. 17.5k gold is close to the price of a tier 10 premium, but you are paying that for a tier 8. WG are playing everyone for suckers by slowly making extremely expensive things so stuff seems cheap, and you are letting them.
solid gate
Ever thought about buying premiums when they are on discount? You should try that
And in the last events, they've been basically giving us free premiums
thick trout
What type of discount are you going to get now? If it is compared to the stupid 17.5k gold for a tier 8 then it is definitely not going to be a good deal. Unfortunately every moron who sees "20% off - amazing deal" will go and buy it because they have no sense of value
solid gate
It's a videogame
thick trout
Yes, and goods in the game should not be that expensive
ebon tundra
I got the Scorpion for free in the Christmas Event 😃
solid gate
I got 20k gold from Christmas event
ebon tundra
Btw . How can a t8 Tank be more expensive than an t9 heavy Tank ?
ebon tundra
I would wiat for black friday or Christmas . Evetually its cheaper then .
brisk orbit
alright
robust dirge
Pls buff the t15's pen
Most teir 3 have around 70 pen and t15 has 42
crude gorge
I think the m5 Stuart is quite op for a tier 3
kindred crescent
Is the 105mm on the charioteer the hesh gun?
rigid thunder
yes
floral basalt
Pro
fossil anvil
Should kv2 and easy 8 rlly be buffed in next update ?
solid gate
Easy 8 yes
thick trout
@fossil anvil KV2 should be removed and e8 is perfectly fine how it is now
bronze cobalt
I apparently have 3757 WN8 in my T34 is that any good?
I dont really understand WN8
@thick trout how dare you even suggest to remove the kv2
thick trout
@bronze cobalt
Reasons why KV2 should stay:
- So noobs can pretend they are good when they get 1k damage because of sheer luck
Reasons why KV2 should go:
- Gun cannot be balenced at all
- Can easily 1 hit too many tanks
- There is no skill at all in playing it
- 2 entire tiers got new equipment to balence out one horrific tank
- It encourages some of the worst habits in blitz and makes people try and grind the 183
- It doesnt fit the line at all, as admitted by WG
Hmmmmm i wonder what we should do?
bronze cobalt
@thick trout i dissagree
A kv2 is balanced out by its unnaturally long reload at its tier. Its very vulnerable after it fires
thick trout
Yes because having decemt dpm as well as alpha that high at tier 6 is perfectly balenced 🤔
Did I mention it also has stupidly good HE increasing its dpm further?
bronze cobalt
Most tier 6s can kill it within the 21s it reloads in
Its dpm is awful and hee is getting nerfed to the point were its just as effective as just ap
I havent even played that much in the kv2 and got killed by it several times but i will still defend it no matter what
thick trout
2.8k dpm with HE and 960 alpha is awful? It has better dpm than the vk28.01 for example, and only slightly worse than the cromwell until you load HE.
It is getting 10mm less HE pen which is a very light nerf considerinh the 152 or the entire tank should be removed
bronze cobalt
But you never get that dpm with he as it doesnt pen all the time and usually does 400 ish damage and its getting nerfed a lot so it will pen even less and do much less damage in a non pen shot
thick trout
It has 86mm of pen which is more than enough for every med and most tanks sides. 76mm is still very good and it will not affect it enough
bronze cobalt
So the only thing the kv2 has is high alpha and low mobility,high reload, high dpm on paper but in reality you acually get about half of it and bad armour for a tier 6
thick trout
If HE only splashes and does half damage it is still only 300 less dpm than the vk28.01
bronze cobalt
That is a lot less dpm
thick trout
And it has over 1150 more dpm if its HE pens, that is a lot more
Even with AP it still have 200 more dpm than the vk28 as well as over 4 times the alpha
The tank cannot be balenced. If it is to stay in the game the best thing that can happen is for it to be nerfed to similar levels of the 183. Both tanks deserve removal but apparently WG is very reluctant to do that
bronze cobalt
But you cant just fire as soon as you reload
Dispersion is a b**** and if you miss a single shoy your dpm is gone
The 183 is just being played wrong rn but doesnt deserve removal
thick trout
There is a little thing called pre aiming 🤦
With every tank if you miss a shot you lose dpm. With the KV2, if you miss 1 HE shot and the rest pen you still have similar dpm to the cromwell and better than the vk28.
bronze cobalt
You cant remove an abso icon like the kv2
It is probaly the most iconic tank in the game
thick trout
And that is why tier 6 is broken
It should have been removed, and WG admitted this
But it was too popular and so one of the most unbalanced ranks in the game has stayed
bronze cobalt
Omg some people are just too thick to understand
Im out, you cant change my mind and clearly i cant change yours
brisk orbit
KV-2 is just a tank for sealclubbers to sealclub t5 players and should be removed or just remove the 152
thick trout
You cant change my mind because you have no points to change it with 🤦
bronze cobalt
This argument is leading to nothing and ive gotten bored of it
BOI I SUPPLIED YOU WITH PLENTY POINTS
Anyone who reads this conversation can you scroll up and tell us who you think is right
tulip sail
The kv2 doesnt even make sense for the line it's in it should have been made collector and added the t150 instead
brisk orbit
or just make the 107mm the default and remove the 152
tulip sail
Yeah but I ment for 5.5 what would have made more sense to do
thick trout
Removing the 152 would work very well, many low tiers have had derps removed and it isnt hard to add another to the list.
brisk orbit
there's not even any soviet HT that has a 152 other than kv-2
thick trout
It only fits into the line with its name and speed, everything else is a complete contrast to the rest of the line
tulip sail
And for those who want it to "stay a real tank" they did test a 107mm on the kv2 as a prototype
I even have a copy of the photo of it
brisk orbit
there's no tank other than kv-2 that has a 152mm in t6
the SU-152 is justified because it has no turret and the tanks has actual frontal armour that can't just be HEd
tulip sail
It's also a tier higher and fighting much stronger tanks
thick trout
It also cant see tier 5s, it has bad pen and its HE isnt as OP in tier 7
solid gate
@tulip sail I guess the mbt 70 project existed since the 50s
I remember when I was first researching the mbt I stumbled upon early sketches for its design
tulip sail
Everything I've read on it mentioned the mid 60s
solid gate
The one I saw was a strange one
The turret was still the classic shape but lacking a lot and the gun cal was 90mm
tulip sail
Do you still have the dated sketches? I'd be interested in seeing them
solid gate
I saw them on Wikipedia dunno if it’s still there though
hallow briar
How Skorpion G have 14mm armor behind the turret if there is nothing there?
tulip sail
Unfortunately I dont see them there
solid gate
Check some other websites
tulip sail
I am
solid gate
It could well be with the “nuclear powered tank”
Note this was near 2017 September when the kpz was first introduced
Also one more to note a predecessor to mbt was the xm803
tulip sail
That was a different project although with you mentioning a 90mm gun the writer could have mixed up the Indian panzer with the mbt since both were coop projects and the Indian panzer started in the 50s
solid gate
That could be true considering Germany was willing to partner with most NATO allies
tulip sail
Yeah and both projects are a bit on the obscure side of things
solid gate
You know I like this DM me or add me if you wanna chat more history
tulip sail
Sure
solid gate
Note the mbt 70 costed 300k more than abrams would
tulip sail
Tbh I've never really looked into the cost of tanks
solid gate
Abrams cost as much as t10 does
tulip sail
Dang
solid gate
The mbt 70 went way over the project budget
tulip sail
I've found that tends to happen
solid gate
And was very problematic
magic jackal
seriously, how the f+++ are you supposed to play the VK 100.01?
I’ve lost probably ~100k silver from not dealing any damage or from being popped in 3-4 hits to the LFP or cupola.
plucky summit
Sidescrape all you can on one side without the cupola
wise valley
sidescrape like above ^ but if not possible wiggle you turret between reloads so the capola is harder to hit
the capola has a small sliver of area that is actually pennable
magic jackal
But if I find a sidescraping position (which is rare) it never has a clear line to any targets - so then I get mowed down pushing up to where the enemies actually are.
plucky summit
Unless you’re fighting a Lowe, T34, or M6A then you don’t need to worry too much about the cupola
Lowe especially because it just doesn’t miss
magic jackal
so then what about the lower plate?
plucky summit
Hide it using terrain or buildings
magic jackal
sorry if I’m rude - I’m just getting really tired of bleeding silver
wise valley
plucky summit
U good, I got lucky I got to Maus before VK and chen got nerfed
wise valley
image above as a refresher, vk is too slow and its stock dpm too low to push out its more to hold down an area
plucky summit
Feel free to bait a shot and trade off 😉
wise valley
luckily they are buffing the stock's pen so if you are more likely to pen
plucky summit
That stock gun was horrible, without that crew 310 had a longer reload than the 460
magic jackal
I got the upgraded gun
plucky summit
That gun is probably the best module to upgrade
wise valley
then u should be fine
magic jackal
how do you get 1560 hp in a VK 100.01?
solid gate
Improved hull module?
hollow mango
Guys, can someone help me? I have 17500 gold and currently there is Scorpion G and KpfPz 70 in the store. So my options are:
Buy Scorpion G for 17500g 🇦
Buy Steel KpfPz 70 and any premium tier 7 tank🇧
Buy normal KpfPz 70 and one premium tier 8 tank🇨
plucky summit
Hue hue get tog, don’t if you hate being slow
plucky summit
Oh boy
hollow mango
Pls, now for real
plucky summit
People love the Scorp and are hating on the <152mm damage and gun handling
Of the Kpf^
knotty vale
If your gonna buy skorpain. But I would suggest none of them
hollow mango
So, just wait I guess?
knotty vale
Yes
hollow mango
One week? Kill me
knotty vale
It’s tempting
plucky summit
Maybe invest in free XP 😂
hollow mango
Lol
knotty vale
I got tempted and bought cdc
hollow mango
25000 is alright?
knotty vale
I know some tier 10 premiums that will come in store for 17k
hollow mango
It's kind of stupid that WG won't show some news about when new Prems will come
knotty vale
Way to make money
knotty vale
They release something good that’s not expensive and then another good think that’s expensive. They do that because you have no idea what’s coming next
hollow mango
Or introducing garbage tanks for butt ton of gold
plucky summit
Ehem VK 168
knotty vale
Lol
plucky summit
Even my Ltwt sees a joke to pen
hollow mango
Lol
hollow notch
The kpz gun feels like a laser to me. Snap mobile shots and they hit dead center almost every time.
neat nimbus
making my way
surreal haven
No need to flex but
wise valley
Selling bdr for shame @surreal haven nice bathtub tho
wise valley
Arl is pretty good for its tier, just wiggle turret for the weakspots and don’t expose the enormous sides
Also gets detracked for days
Too bad 5.5 happened b1 is garbo Tier
acoustic night
We all kow that we want the st-1 Walker added as an event
livid forum
Any tips for Challenger? I might get it by this week but it doesn't seem really good or is it?
tulip sail
As much as I want the Walker I highly doubt it will ever see wotb
livid forum
Well actually there's a mech hidden on this game
tulip sail
Yeah but it was a warthunder event that started the kv2 Walker
livid forum
I know it
Just in case this is WoTB mech, but I have no idea if it's going to come anytime soon, maybe as an event?
tulip sail
Maybe but that looks almost exactly like a slai mech
livid forum
Maybe (It might be interesting to see it ingame)
tulip sail
I would buy it for 8k
acoustic night
They should add a wWalker event were you can unlock a random Walker out of multiple walkers that you can get
acoustic night
@livid forum what map it on?
zinc condor
M41 Walker
acoustic night
@tawdry iron is there a limit on how many things I can say in any text channel?
livid forum
@acoustic night Mayan ruins
neat nimbus
fun fact: i never feel the kv-2 nerfed
cuz i get destroyed by one if i get into a battle
wise valley
when u know nerfing the 152mm is good for the game but it still hurts ur soul regardless
wise valley
i mean they dont need to nerf the tank into oblivion just yet, the he pen nerf is a good start
surreal haven
Is this another easter egg by WoTB?
It shows me an Italian flag but theres no Italian tank family
thick trout
That is ready for the new tech tree. It was probably included so the people testing the progretto could separate it from the other tanks
rigid remnant
raven jacinth
T20?
acoustic night
Add to game pls
solid gate
Still 3 dots
acoustic night
What
robust dagger
sniff re-release it. Or the Chieftain Mk6 ;w;
tulip sail
I'd love it if they sold the o-47 for 7-8k (8 including the camo and other goodies)
robust dagger
My most wanted Tank. Because it's based on the HT-01B Magella from the first Gundam season ❤
gentle needle
That looks like something that would fit Godzilla
solid gate
If the O-47 ever comes to the store again I'm thinking it will make the current Scorpion bundle look cheap
left anvil
I’ve seen it in store several times a year ago. It’s not that special
solid gate
I've seen it once.
left anvil
I see. We should hype it up like crazy so people wet their pants and spill their wallets. Maybe WGing give us OP rng then 😏
valid viper
Should E50 m ausf. acquire enhanced armour or more hit points?
robust dagger
Re-release the O-47!!!
solid gate
It was in the store twice
Also it was much cheaper than skorpion @solid gate
Like 10k gold
Re-release the Chi Nu Kai Shinobi, it's 3 years now that I don't see it in shop. O-47 was there the past year. I don't understand why Angry Connor is sold every year also, and the Chi Nu Kai isn't
No one cares about that tank it's already in tech tree
plucky summit
@valid viper let’s not make the E 50 M a fast heavy, the armor is great
Most people just want Chi-Nu Kai for the credit coefficient
valid viper
The acceleration on it is pretty decent for its size right ? @plucky summit
tulip sail
@solid gate because the shinobi isnt tied to a holiday
plucky summit
Yep, even the speeds it can reach are nice for the size
cloud vector
Why not release a Balanced Tank? Oh i forgot who i was asking
graceful ravine
T20 needs a buff. Its hard to grind pershing its super rare
fast compass
Currently grinding the t20. I am enjoying it but honestly it does need some buff, probably a dpm buff.
Can't really push anyone with sub 2k dpm in tier 7 as a medium. T-34-1 has a 100mm gun has better pen and dpm than it
neat nest
What’s some tips for playing with the A20? Currently grinding it so I can get that sweet sweet KV-1
primal pumice
What do y’all think of the t44?
robust dagger
@graceful ravine The Pershing is really meh in compare to the T20
marble stone
Should I get superpershing or Lowe?
wise valley
@neat nest A-20 is best deployed in wolf packs to take advantage of the dpm of two medium tanks. Remember you have decent pen but low alpha so you should be constantly utilizing ur dpm from an alternative angle to pound the enemy. In last resort brawling, you should fire 2 for every one shot fire at you but refrain from this since u have low hp.
Also dont engage tanks in cover, they will outtrade you and retreat into cover for their reloads
neat nest
Thank you! I really appreciate the advice. All the videos on YT of blitz are so outdated so it’s hard to find good info.
trim schooner
A20 is a nice seal clubber
viral lodge
Sherman firefly vs Cromwell? Just got Crusader, and I haven’t seen Firefly or Cromwell to much so I don’t know which to go for.
trim schooner
Sherman for insane gun handling
Cromwell for good and agile movement and decent gun for tier 6
viral lodge
How is Sherman’s gun?
wise valley
@neat nest however that playstyle I mentioned above is for the 47mm if ur using the 75mm then u play peek a boom when u pop out shoot and pop back into cover
Different guns dictate the playstyle. 47 for dpm constant harass and 75 for large alpha
trim schooner
@viral lodge ill get a ss for you to compare
viral lodge
Thank you
neat nest
@wise valley yeah I’m running the 75mm. I stayed in a pack but sort of behind to support. Soft cover when reloaded, hard cover while reloading. I think my main problem was I would roam alone a lot of the time.
wise valley
yeah cant do that in the A-20 unless ur top dog, t-34s and other tier 5 meds eat u for breakfast
trim schooner
@viral lodge
viral lodge
Awesome thanks.
trim schooner
Also they lead to different tanks if you didn't know
wise valley
pro should look at their tier 7 tanks too, comet and challenger play pretty differently
trim schooner
@viral lodge
viral lodge
I saw, between the 2 trees is there 1 considered better?
wise valley
sherman can lead back to the comet actually, its just a down grade
imo with the gun at least
challenger leads to the god tier tds, the comet leads to the meds which are good but not top dogs of the meds in their tier imo
trim schooner
I would think the td is better, I've only grinder the medium line and I thought it's probably one of the worst mediums in tier X @viral lodge
wise valley
tier 8 and X are bleh, the tier 9 looks decent from what i remember but charioteer is just better iter 8
charioteer is like a med td with a nice gun
viral lodge
So firefly then. I can always drop down to comet or research Cromwell 2nd.
viral lodge
Is black prince worth going for? (I have Churchill VII) or should I go for other tech branches?
magic jackal
Is the Löwe good for credit grinding?
wise valley
its sturdy armorwise and dpm is insane. Main problem with black prince is its pen and its switch to tier 8. if you want to stop at tier 7 its pretty good choice otherwise reconsider @viral lodge
the caernarvon plays nothing like it, its more of a heavy med then
viral lodge
👌 thanks for the information, so basically, Black Prince will do good against Mediums, lights and TD but lacks penetration to deal with Heavies well.
magic jackal
Actually...what about the Panther/M10?
wise valley
with really low af alpha. Yeah its an absolute unit against non heavies @viral lodge tho be wary of bigger gunned tds otherwise its a powerhouse
viral lodge
Does it have a better gun for dealing with heavies that can be used?
wise valley
panther/m10 is decent if u are seal clubbin but imo its an ez target
magic jackal
ah, ok
wise valley
the black prince just has the 17 pounder like the sherman firefly just better handling and dpm
it can tear up an tiger or is like crazy tho ngl
viral lodge
I think I’ll just passively go for Black Prince then (doing my daily 2x research on Churchill VII)
wise valley
yeah
viral lodge
I think I’m going to focus on getting all my lines to tier 5, then I’ll start going for 6 and 7.
Churchill VII is my only 6.
wise valley
i see yeah thats a good start. better pick than the vk 36 h. thats literally hell to grind
viral lodge
Between 36 H and 30 P (I know it’s heavy vs medium) other than play style is there any difference as far as which is better?
wise valley
vk 30 p is the better pick imo, dpm is slightly higher and is effectively a peek a boom into harasser. the vk 36 h is too slow and unsloped to be effective as a heavy. they have the same gun too
i have both to compare as experience. vk 30 p is a med brawler and the vk 36 is a support heavy. choose ur playstyle.
viral lodge
30 p it is, thanks, I’m still on the Pz. IV D but working to it.
fallow shoal
The pz4d isnt a bad little tank
wise valley
p 1V G is pretty good. the tier 4 is pretty good for its tier
fallow shoal
It has the 3rd highest pen of 75mm at tier 4 lol
wise valley
early vk 30 p tho u will have to be patient with reload. tho when its more maxed out its good. tiger p as a brawler is superior to the tiger 1 as they have the same dpm in blitz unlike in the pc
fallow shoal
Cant u go from tiger p to tiger using xp?
wise valley
yes
fallow shoal
So yea just bypass the h lol
wise valley
i went tiger 1 first cause fanboy times
oh wait nvm not anymore the tiger p cant do that
fallow shoal
Wait it cant?
wise valley
with the intro of the vk 100 it cant since the tiger p now splits into three lines
vk 45, vk 100, and ferdinand
the vk 100 > vk 45 tho the vk 100 stock is a bleh
low dpm and low speed but god armor
fallow shoal
Sad times lol
wise valley
worth the line tho since the vk 100 line passes guns down to the tiger 1 line so u can duel research it
tiger 2 gets its second gun from vk 100's stock and obv tiger p gives the tiger 1 their gun
currently duel lining the is and kv-3 and the tigers and saves u a lot of xp doing so
viral lodge
Is there any tank lines that should flat out be avoided at all tiers?
wise valley
only just american tds unless ur dedicated and russian tds since chinese are superior imo
the rest are either bearable with only a bump or two in the tree or good
solid gate
I would like to have the old tanks again like the t1 and so on you can make these old vehicles clean again and it could also be the edge tanks come in wot flash but not as
Sure 25$s a piece
But do not pay as gold but only normally with credits
valid lodge
Counter offer.
$30 and i get all my tier 1's back.
drifting vapor
Dear Sirs of Wargaming and dear Boys of Blitz, I offer you my greetings and I ask you if in the near future we will have the opportunity to use the tanks Project M35 Mod 46 and P.43 Quater. I wish you a good job and a good day. See you soon.
balmy parcel
Guys the VK.28.01 is a good light tank?
plucky summit
It’s a normie light, more a medium. It used to be very good
solid gate
VEry good
uncut igloo
Tog best light tank
viral lodge
After the Leopard which tank tree should I follow?
plucky summit
The DPM sure does help as long as a medium doesn’t keep peek-a-booming you as you somehow miss
boreal shell
when u crusinf around at 14 km they just hit ur rear aidet
wise valley
Panther line imo
plucky summit
Maybe don’t show rear, I never get rushed in a tog, in fact I rush them sometimes
The turn speed is quite decent for the mobility
plucky summit
If they pull an HE pull 800 damage before they do it again, or force them to splash by wiggling, they always seem to fail at the side likely because of the spaced armor
And now that the pen is getting a nerf you can expect not much of a chance to pen HE anyways, the KV-2 has to 3 shot you with the AP unlike every other tier 6
crude gorge
Nashorn is the greatest sniper tank I have ever seen
solid gate
@crude gorge several people are typing
somber rampart
What about other sniper tanks in the game if you haven’t seen them go look up videos of them on YouTube
crude gorge
For tier 6 I mean
somber rampart
Okay
crude gorge
Aced the nashorn today dealing 3k damage, the rest of the players in my team can’t even deal 1k damage
somber rampart
Probably because brain.exe has crashed
plucky summit
They probably couldn’t do much damage cause you were taking it all
median elm
Should I buy the Tiger 1 or the Tiger P
barren shoal
Tiger 1 is less armor more mobility, where the P is the opposite... decide on that or which tier 10 you want to get. go from there. Hope that helps you with your decision.
scarlet nest
Look for the line? Or just comparison with 2 tanks
Tiger p is good tho
Didn't tried the tiger but i've tried the kuro mori so i think armored one is better to play
novel zinc
about tier 1-5 tanks (avoiding silly comments I have never been and won't be a sealclubber. My battles in those tier are barely the 5-10% may be). Recently I decided to rehabilitate (WR increase) 4 or 5 tanks in lower tiers. I can tell you to "total nerf" was just a disaster. Why ? Now beginners can't learn anything: basically all tanks are the same. No differences between a med or a light. No gun differences (I mean relevant differences), no armor etc etc. New player will only rush to skip that tiers as they were cancer. In addition to that it seems collectable tanks got the worse treatment. For example Pz III A and T46 are now simple crap. Also WOTB did such a bad job that forgot something and created a monster like the M5 that now has almost the same effect had the ke-ni premium and the battle depends on how many M5 got one team or the other. You can tell ok they got you and they will nerf it (and buff pz III A) + some others (by the way the t46 will be still the worse tank available in the tier so don't even bother to play with it) in the next update. But was it so complicated to avoid that ? I mean you need just to look at the tank features and you already know what's going on in battle. Did someone of WOTB did a real analysis ? I got it you wanna keep it simple for beginners and avoid sealclubber but c'mon keep some specific features for each tank category to let the newbs start to learn tank roles.
wise valley
Tiger p can lead to the vk 100 which is a heavy armored brawler, the tiger leads to the tiger 2 which is a faster support brawler. Depends on ur playstyle.
As for the tier 7s, tiger p is much better for holding an angle while the tiger 1 can relocate and eliminate as needed. In a one v one the tiger p wins over the tiger 1 @median elm
mighty glade
@novel zinc is big brain
wise valley
removing tier 3 specialized roles was big mistake wargaming
mighty glade
Removing MS-1 was big mistake, i dont care about tier 3
wise valley
okay there buddy lol
mighty glade
Someone needs to make a image of MS-1 with those meme glowing red eyes
hoary saffron
Think
valid lodge
Which was more popular ms-1 or kv-2?
shrewd basin
Ms1
turbid drift
red bloom
How about u take off all the unnecessary modules in the 215b grind instead of giving it broken consumables to make it more popular
zealous anchor
Or give a little buff
solid gate
It doesn't need any
zealous anchor
cool opinion
worthy sparrow
Whats better t62A/Obj140 ?
solid gate
Just because not every tank is auto pilot doesn't mean it needs a buff
thick trout
215b is a really good tank atm, it definitely does not need a buff and the last thing it needs is stupid consumables
solid gate
^
zealous anchor
Autopilot tanks lol
karmic flame
Guys when i reach platinum rating i got atest for camo?
solid gate
Gustav gun on B-C 25 t pls
fiery crown
When is the new event.... Upcoming Tuesday????
bright folio
What’s the best way to grind the Leo PT A?
I:E what order should I get the modules in?
solid gate
I just saved up free Xp and didn't play it until it was fully upgraded. I've found that is the best way to play just about any tank. @bright folio
twilit belfry
FV 4005 should have the 183 gun
thick trout
We dont want more 183s in blitz
twilit belfry
I do
thick trout
You have no thought for balence or thr games health then 🤷
solid gate
It's not getting the 183mm
Regardless of what you say lol
One 183mm in the game is enough. If it was added to the 4005 that would open the possibility of having 3 183mm guns on a team. Anybody who knows what is good for the game knows that is a bad idea. @twilit belfry
fallow shoal
We need more 107mm guns though, its a great caliber that is really unspoken for.
I can only think of 4 tanks with 107mm guns avalible lol
bright folio
For what it’s worth, the tanks with 107s are generally best with the 107s.
fallow shoal
Not the kv3 lol its worlds better with the 100mm
bright folio
The KV-3 doesn’t have a 107mm.
twilit belfry
If I can’t have a 4005 without a howitzer gun, then I want a Leo buff or the old IS 7
Old IS 7 is unstoppable
bright folio
Fair enough. Forgot about that one. The other 4 tanks with 107s though...
fallow shoal
Kv2 and kv4 are best with them. Kv5 has only 2 107mm as gun choices lol
bright folio
T-150 also has a 107mm as it’s top gun
fallow shoal
True but its the same gun as the kv2
fiery crown
@bright folio From what I was told .....Tracks Gun Engine
midnight anchor
@bright folio that's the kv5 stock gun
fallow shoal
I mean in general your caliber list gets smaller and smaller as you go up the tiers. I wish there was more variety in the gun calibers at high tiers.
waxen imp
anyone know the credit coefficient on the smasher?
solid gate
150%
viral lodge
M4 branch vs T1 branch?
neat nimbus
well got the smol tank
hallow briar
Today I bought Jagdtiger and I'm hating this tank
- the stock cannon is very good at Ferdinand but it's not at tier 9, normal dmg + meeeeh penetration + ok reload
- too low speed, i already have the top motor (by Ferdinand) and rarely the tank runs faster than 26 km/h (max speed is 38)
- not good armor, the most bigger armor is in the casemate and most of the tier 9-10 can penetrate 250mm, it's a Tiger's 2 chassis so if they can't penetrate the casemate, they will penetrate the chassis
So who bought Jagdtiger will play with a buffed tier 8 until buy the top cannon, so the penetration will be good, finally a fantastic reload for the normal dmg and better aim time
solid gate
Stock tanks are supposed to be bad
So players would spend $ to free xp the modules and gold the crew
hallow briar
I can understand the cannon, maus use that module but the speed and the armor are the worse
Tiger 2 already don't have a good armor like his brother VK100, so in the tier 9 is worse
But about these two things i can't do anything
waxen imp
@solid gate tks
celest elk
Anyone have any advice for playing the conqeruer?
fossil violet
it has the gun of a god and very good turret armor, don't stay frontline and stay in the second line providing 122 mm shots from hell
you have great HE
obtuse prism
@hallow briar I agree with the armor, but the cannon is pretty good stock. The max cannon is crazy, the stats are INSANE... but I still feel it should be like a mini Jg E100 cannon with an damage output of ~600, a little like the conway one... or just an armor buff :3
hallow briar
@obtuse prism i don't think the stock cannon is good need a little bit more penetration and the reload isn't so good, but buff it need to buff maus, ferdy and jpanther 2, the stock cannon is good for be a stock tier 9 cannon, but the armor and the speed make me fell bad
Is good but not good
obtuse prism
The speed is illogical considering the armor on the Jadgtiger isn’t that strong armor wise
hallow briar
Only the casemate have a huge armor but i think VK100 have a better turret than jagdtiger's casemate, less than 26 km/h everytime for be penetrated by tier 7 tanks is sad
It makes you fell like your are playing with a mobile bunker vs guys with bazookas and granades
solid gate
🤔
viral lodge
Jackson vs Hellcat?
tough dune
@hallow briar Jagdtiger has -8 gun depression. Use it. Even tier X heavies/meds need APCR/HEAT to pen the superstructure if you are using max gun depression.
hallow briar
@viral lodge do you like tanks with turret? If yes hellcat line is a good idea
@tough dune still making dmg
solid gate
@hallow briar the jackson has one too...
hallow briar
@solid gate what about the tier 7 8 9 and 10?
hallow briar
👍
If you want only the tier 6...
Hell cat runs very fast, great for flank and get covers and other positions but there is low armor and kv-2 can hit kill
Jackson have the same top gun but the reload, aim time and better dispersion too, better armor but it's slower than hellcat and his upper tiers don't have turret @viral lodge
But the upper tiers in Jackson line have nice armor, T95 is a machine of doom, the fearless turtle
And if you like candy, T28 look like a chocolate bar with a stick
hallow briar
Yep, it's cheaper than get from T25
thick trout
Hellcat is the better line to go, T25/2 is alright and t28 prot is great fun. T30 is also very good.
hallow briar
T28 Prot. have 1km/h medium speed 🤣 🤣 🤣
Actually 1km/h with the stock engine, 16km/h with top engine
I hope there is no a slower tank than T28 prot.
obtuse prism
I really hated the t28 proto stock
hallow briar
@obtuse prism you talked about jagdtiger, can you gib some tips?
obtuse prism
Camping is key
But I only had a 48% winrate so your asking the wrong person 🤷♂️
Camping is effective
hallow briar
@solid gate so what is the best play style for jagdtiger?
I'm super agressive with stug because it has speed
Oohhh ok
native surge
the kpfpz 70 feels like it needs an armor buff
hallow briar
I'm hating jagdtiger like i hate my computer, my computer can't play any other nice game
tough dune
Don't camp. Go along with heavies, find a ridge/hill and use the gun depression.
Its all about the gun and the dpm. Armour isn't good unless you are using the gun depression. Shoot, backdown and repeat. You can support heavies in pushing as it reloads very fast.
You can snipe but not from back in spawn as you will be defenceless against meds/lights and it also does not have good camo.
It can be played aggressively when its top tier and supported by heavies/meds but i wouldn't recommend it as the front is weak.
hallow briar
I will try it
Nope, jagdtiger still a complete sh$#
Too flat maps for hull down, too weak chassis, too slow, too big
Everyone see it and everyone shoot only because it's big, fat, slow and weak
Helping heavies or camping at the other side of the map
Worst high tier i have played
I still playing with it because i want jageroo
plucky robin
it's one of the painfully grind that u grind through and never play again
hallow briar
@plucky robin yes, like jadgpanther 1
plucky robin
yess
hallow briar
"Uhhhhhg jagdtiger have second best dpm"
Ok so or you camp and don't see any enemy and don't shoot or you go help heavies but everyone shoot in you because jagdtiger is too slow for shoot and get a cover again, and shoot only one or two times
tough dune
Watch some videos then. Maybe you'll get some insight.
fresh scaffold
Possibly impossible to ace. No matter how well I do I can’t get above a 2nd. Normally this kinda battle is a guarantee ace or at the very least 1st class
limber aurora
Jagtiger was great for me
raven bridge
it's because people that play it are such hard seal clubbers the amount of exp is near impossible to achieve being a normal player
hasty lodge
Lmao
elfin edge
yea
hm i have the jadgtiger rn with the top gun and halfway to the jgpze100
its got great dpm and if I face for example a tortoise or any other heavy i can comfortably brawl with them. all i need is to get in their face and wiggle so they bounce off upper hull once or twice and then out DPM them
a con is its bulkiness and sheer size, as well as traverse speed
elfin meadow
Since when does the AT 7 have a autoloader
fossil violet
since 2014
elfin meadow
I thought that the FV4005 was first TD with autoloader
pulsar sinew
Helsing?
elfin meadow
Oh I’m stupid
static token
@elfin meadow since I was introduced
elfin meadow
Tier X TD
gentle needle
When are the new tanks going to be in the line up
They all ready have the flag in the filter
hoary saffron
@gentle needle I'm not sure
neat nimbus
is funny what happened
native surge
holy hell
elfin edge
whats a y5
plucky summit
A free event tank you could get some time ago
elfin edge
coool ive been away i guess i missed out 😦
wise valley
Yeet Five Tanks were pretty good, firefly is my credits go to. Yeet five t-34 is for seal clubbin platoons
plucky summit
Ima keep usin Lowe
neat nimbus
a m5 chineses turret flew further than mine
elfin edge
whats the firefly playstyle
wise valley
The event version is mobile dpm monster that sneaks in shots and outflank its target. The normal version is more reserved in sniping and support fire
remote hearth
@elfin edge if you are talking bout the tech tree line, use it as a sniper and try getting shots where you cant be hit, you have the best pen at tier 6 if im not wrong and your dpm is like the cromwell's
faint iron
Just a bit lower than Cromwell’s, solid tank, don’t get into brawls. Just play the support role.
plain hollow
JPanther II best ramming tank change my mind.
elfin edge
@remote hearth im talking about that tank specifically
@plain hollow yes, i had the jp2 and it was a blast. awesoem speed, awesome gun, can go hull down, and rams the heck out of a ru
remote hearth
@elfin edge well with the tech tree line like what is said above: dont try to brawl unless youre absolutely sure you can take them out, support is the best for it as you have neither the dpression or armour or hp to be on ht efrontlines
plain hollow
@elfin edge and you can bounce the shells like hell.
outer rivet
The low tier howitzers need i repeat neeed to come back
elfin edge
@plain hollow sherman bounces shells?
@outer rivet i kept my t82 and its so derpy and fun
outer rivet
Yea they need to come them howitzers they were lots of fun and thats is what made the game good and fun
elfin edge
😃
robust dagger
Gah~ give it! D:
somber rampart
No
robust dagger
😦
crude gorge
I have never ever once acknowledged this thing existence, never seen one in battle either
When did this tank get released? Because I have only been back to this game for like 10 months
robust dagger
Kunio Okawara designed the O-47. He is a big Man in Mecha Genre.
solid gate
What do you thing guys about Su-122-44 is it worth?
crude gorge
Su 122 44 armor is quite effective against tier 6
Penetration is average I would say it has a decent reload time pretty good especially if you are against tier 6, watch out for nashorn because those thing can reliably penetrate your front with AP
solid gate
ok thank you
crude gorge
You should also watch out for su-100y in tier 6 too
robust dagger
Panther/M10 is a hidden sleeper!
somber rampart
The legendary mecha Phoenix camo for the O47 is spectacular I got the tank last year during the summer time
robust dagger
And no re-release after last year. ._. As Gundam fan. It's hurt ;w; Want my Zeon Tank
somber rampart
Okay....
hollow rapids
Tf
honest creek
kay it includes a horn and red camo kk , and triple faster speed then usual
@robust dagger u happy now?
robust dagger
like Full Frontals Sinaju? ❤
somber rampart
Hey look! The O47 is on sale right now for only 10 minutes
honest creek
yah yah
somber rampart
Looks around before running off
neon comet
@solid gate if you want an SU-122-44, get a T-34-2G-FT. It is pretty much a slightly better SU-122-44
It has better camo values, much better pen, and greater speed and maneuverability
And costs you 0 gold
worthy lintel
I
fallow shoal
I mean the su122-44 does have the best credit coefficient in tier 7 i thought.
mellow gazelle
Then go for at 15 a or t32e3
Guys don't u think su 100 y should get an armour buff
humble bear
No
crude gorge
Su-100y is great for ramming at full speed
fallow shoal
if u can get to full speed
fleet berryBOT
silent__killer#9619 was muted
fallow shoal
this is when u get good and play the obivously superior 107mm gun
crude gorge
107 mm gun is actually more easy to use than the 152 mm
fallow shoal
Its hard to survive the nessicary 22-23 seconds between shots period lol
When u can spit out a 320 average dmg every 8ish seconds or so, the choice becomes obivous.
crude gorge
The KV-2 with the 152 mm is the most inaccurate gun also at tier 6
thick trout
Who said you need to survive? 1 shot and you have done well (if you are a normal KV2 player)
fallow shoal
If u want fun and effective derp, play the su152, or the isu152 for that matter lol
After this game i realized the need for the nerf, i never really played the 152mm and i thought i would give it a try. This happened.
Now i understand why nerf lol. I got the replay if anyone wants to watch me smash a full health blaze do 1100 to a tiger p and like 900 to a tiger 1 lol
solid gate
It’s easy to avoid KV-2, it’s basically tier 6 183
thick trout
@solid gate except its alpha is even more unbalancable and it hasnt beem nerfed enough yet
trim sand
If people are just going to play the kv-2 with the 107mm gun why not just replace it with the T-150?
tulip sail
^
thick trout
Exactly, the KV2 and the 152 should be removed
plucky summit
Why both? If you remove the KV-2 then the cannon is also out xD
solid gate
Is the Fv4005 worth the grind?
somber rampart
We shouldn’t remove the kv2 it’s such a popular tank lots of people will miss it and it’s legendary 152mm Stalin guided launcher
brisk badger
Remove it and make it a collector
solid gate
KV-2 is not the tank people are making it out to be
brisk badger
Replace it with T-150 and boom everyone is happy, people who love kv2 can keep it, people who hate it get a better tank
solid gate
And is Fv4005 good or crap?
neon comet
Kv4005 has been used to great effect by some players
But not a noob friendly vehicle
solid gate
Cuz in pc its good but blitz is diff
somber rampart
I don’t think wargaming will add back the T-150 anytime soon
brisk badger
4005 is a different breed of good
solid gate
Yeah I think I'll go for it
brisk badger
Can be great but if you suck then it'll suck
solid gate
I like the WT auf pz. Iv so
thick trout
@plucky summit if they remove they KV2 it will become a collectors so they need to remove the gun too
somber rampart
Not the gun anything but the legendary 152mm
solid gate
Ok thanks guys
brisk badger
Waffle is flat out broken
thick trout
You cant just say "its too popular leave it" because that is why we are in this mess in the first place @somber rampart
somber rampart
I’m pretty sure Wargaming won’t replace the Kv2 anytime soon
neon comet
I don’t see the point of depriving the tank of its historic gun.... remove the tank before removing its gun
thick trout
@somber rampart And? That means we should encourage them even more.
@neon comet KV2 prototype has 107
neon comet
But it is famous for the 152
somber rampart
Everyone loves the 152
thick trout
Again fame is not more important than balence
@somber rampart Noone loves the 152 unless they cant play any other tanks
neon comet
They are working on the balance
thick trout
You cannot balnce 640 alpha at tier 6 like you cannot balence 1300 alpha at tier 10
neon comet
They will likely turn it into another 183 eventually.... the worst stats in tier
thick trout
And 183 still deserves to be removed
solid gate
183 is just broken
neon comet
I am not a huge fan of playing derps anyway, but some players do really enjoy them, so why deprive them of their fun?
solid gate
Derps are good but only with the right team
thick trout
Because it ruins tier 6 and 10 @neon comet
neon comet
It simply does not
solid gate
Its mostly the MM not the vehicles
thick trout
It ruins everyone else game that isnt playing them
somber rampart
Ima let you guys talk with anti derp man alright see you guys later
solid gate
You see 70 percent teams roflstomp noobs
That's the real issue here, not the derps. With coordination they are easy kills.
thick trout
Average players cannot do that. That is the issue
solid gate
Exactly. There should be more tutorials. Not bots and babified tier 1-5
Then when you get to tier 8 it hits you hard
thick trout
There should, but there should also be no need balence an entire tier around 1 tank
solid gate
Yeah
neat nimbus
should develop the engine first or grind more for the gun
somber rampart
Grind more for the gun
main quiver
Engine, stay alive
plucky summit
@thick trout ah right, I take ‘removed’ too seriously
thick trout
The closest we are going to get to complete removal is making it a collectors. It would not be hard to remove 152 from KV2 and make it a collectors. No compensation is needed. I would say give it a large gold value to try and encourage all memory of it to be removed
brisk badger
2k gold would satisfy me
solid gate
Cent 7/1 needs a better grind. Honestly it's arse.
brisk badger
ThAtS a BaD wOrD
solid gate
Deal with it.
It's probably the worst grind in the game. Slow, cumbersome, weakly armoured, and spotted quicker than an ice cream van.
thick trout
Its the price you pay for having such a good tank at the end
solid gate
So it's supposed to be a premium
Because you'll pay an extortionate price for free xp
Or the cost of instant upgrade
thick trout
Or you could just save up free xp 🤦
cloud vector
wise valley
Wow more kv-2 removal treads and I thought this was #general-blitz-discussion
It’s a bit of a over-touched topic at this point
cloud vector
He is just a German light player
dusky tendon
any advice on how to use KV4?
solid gate
Sell it
robust dagger
Why is the Smasher not a tech tree premium? o:
wise valley
Cause that’s actually a big problem compared to the kv-2.
Great dpm outclassing normal ap guns, good pen, and troll turret armor.
thick trout
KV2 also has decent DPM especially with HE, and it sees tier 5s and so gets 1 shots a lot more. They both need a big change.
oak tangle
Kv2 is a big obstacle in grinds imo
wise valley
Lol kv-2 has much worse handling, worse armor, and average dpm. Honestly it’s way easier to deal with considering it’s hp pool and turret traverse. Learn to play against it. The only prob is tier 5s are still babies. Any decent player knows how to counter the kv
thick trout
KV2 is sealclubbing at tier 6. It can 1 shot heavies without too much difficulty. It has almost 3k dpm with HE as well as 960 alpha and great HE pen. Tier 6 is simply too low for that much damage in 1 shot. It is easy to counter for some people, but make 1 mistake and its likely you are back to your garage. And at tier 5 and 6 most people make mistakes regularly.
onyx coral
KV-2 = Meh | SU100Y = OP
wise valley
One shot heavies? U okay there buddy. It requires good positioning on the kv-2’s part to even hit areas that could do max damage. Even there most heavies are still fine with some left. Also there are those tanks u simply just have to use ur head against lol. Can’t let the babies be babies forever. They going to face isu’s and such
onyx coral
I mean against a KV-2 I am invincible behind soft cover
wise valley
Just learn honestly. the he nerf is a step in the right direction. Just wait til then before u try to collector the tank or some dumb crap like that
thick trout
@wise valley slightly distracted arl = pretty likely to be a 1 shot. New players should not have to face the morons that just sit at spawn and get 1 1k damage shot in during the entire game. They should not have to always be careful everywhere they move to survive. They shpuld have achance at playing blitz like it should be played. The tank does not belong in blitz or in that line. WG admitted that. We should not let 2 entire tiers be ruined by 1 tank just because its popular with noobs. The 152 needs to go at some point, the sooner the better
wise valley
they should not have to always be careful where they move u sir are either a moron or just like casual play.
Go get a petition signed or something I see now this will go nowhere
dusky tendon
t32 or kv4?
wise valley
Kv4 t32’s gun will drive u insane against heavy tanks
thick trout
@wise valley i dont play tier 6, and i won't for a long long time. These nerfs will not help me in any way. Thr new players whould actually experience blitz how it is supposed to be. It is not a campfest with noobs camping at spawn with big alpha tanks waiting for someome to move, it is a dynamic and interesting game which should promote movement in every way possible. The KV2 is the opposite of what blitz is about and so the 152 should be removed
cloud vector
So u want Arty
Removing the 152 would ki the game off
Kill* and you don't play that tier so you should not even talk about it
thick trout
Yeah because removing the thing that puts off the most new players would be bad for the game 🤦
robust dagger
I want it so much ;w;
solid gate
I think the upcoming nerf to the KV-2 will do the trick nicely.
Bruh that's literally the worst legendary camo ever
cloud vector
Should be nerfing the smasher lol
robust dagger
Smasher need a buff! 😛
thick trout
The thing that is killing the game atm is the playerbase. They have horrible habits of camping and not moving. This comes from lower tiers, mostly from the KV2. All it does is encourage stagnant gameplay which is awful @cloud vector
cloud vector
Everyone is salty towards newer players so i don't see why tou care about them. Removing the 152mm will remove older players who like it
I never see anyone ingame complain about Kv2s (with 152mm) infact most players complain about the fact they use the 107mm
thick trout
The older player that like it are part of the reason the game is dying. They are almost always sealclubbers who cant do good damage in any other tank and so play the KV2 to get 1k damage most games. The newer players can be perfectly fine if they have good habits. Tier 6 and the KV2 does not give them good habits
cloud vector
Most tier 6s can ez kill the Kv2.
wise valley
Imagine losing more brain cells somehow
solid gate
Suree... If they survive the shot from it
wise valley
Imagine not knowing what prioritizing or flanking are
solid gate
Old players should not be sealclubbing in kv2 @cloud vector
thick trout
That is literally what all of the players at tier 5 and 6 are like 🤦 @wise valley
cloud vector
And when kv2 gets into tier 7 it's even worse
thick trout
KV2 can still do 400 damage easily just with splash @cloud vector
solid gate
Bruh don't even start it
cloud vector
400 with a 20 second reload
Totally good
wise valley
Okay there buddy guess u will just get the kv-2 removed then since ur opinion is word. It’s not that hard pc can meet that thing at tier 4. Just learn or become stagnant.
plucky summit
Beats KV-1S with module damage
thick trout
You expect to be good as bottom tier in a tank that obliterates its own and lower tiers you are wrong 🤷 @cloud vector
wise valley
Smh it’s not about being good it’s about learning what that player can or can’t do and. What u can do in return. It’s a premise in most of gaming. Idk if u can’t learn it maybe pick up something new
thick trout
I dont get what you are trying to say
wise valley
🤦 alright then kv-2 circle jerk go get it removed imma play some games
solid gate
He's trying to say all of us stating Kv2 needs a nerf are noobs who can't play
I don't know that it needs to be removed, I think the upcoming nerf will do the trick.
If you're already trying to say that, say it openly like: "I don't think you can play well" and let me convince you other wise
Not this pathetic under hands insults like "imagine knowing how to flank"