#vehicles-discussion

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ebon tundra
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@solid gate you mean heavy ?
If so it depends on ur playstyle.
E100: good gun but u have to angle its Armor.
Maus : good armor bur less good gun.
VK72: good gun , but U have to sidescrabe

solid gate
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@ebon tundra yes i mean ht ...
I watched bushka in which he explained that vk 72 is WORST t10 tank

regal zealot
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You don’t really sidescrape in the VK 72, you angle the front as sidescraping will reveal its weakpoint

short flame
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@ebon tundra LMAO WHAT , you have to sidescrape in vk72?? 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦

nova solar
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Vk is far from what others tell you mostly because they never play the tank or they never have the tank the the first place

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You cant just say a tank is the worst in its tier when you never played it. @solid gate

solid gate
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@nova solar i didn't say it worst .. i m saying bushka said it's worst t10

nova solar
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Sk8 said h loved it,meadsy said he loved and could agree that bushka was driving the tank wrong

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Exactly

solid gate
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There were comments that bushka driven tank wrong

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That's why i asked If it's good or not

nova solar
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Yes my eyes were burnt after that vid tbh

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It is good

valid lodge
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Is type 62 good for grinding credits?

hollow rapids
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Yes

valid lodge
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Even if i use heat? (Without using full heat ofcourse)

hollow rapids
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Yup

valid lodge
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Awesome 😈

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Need credits and wanna pull out a new premium credit grinder

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First game didn't do so hot. 4 derps on dead rail. I got blind shot by a smasher after a teammate broke a box

scarlet nest
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Any ideas for this tank?

spring dock
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can anyone tell me how to ride a pershing (except hulldown)

clear jasper
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Its the IS-7 obseleted by the IS-4? Is4 does almost everything better only the speed on the is7 is an bit better.

lone forge
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I think the IS-7 is a good tank. Don't have the armor that the IS-4 have but it's good in my opinion

narrow rampart
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If you sidescrape in the VK 72, you will get defeated easily

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@scarlet nest you bought it already? I've got a video on the channel, but it's your typical US tank. Decent mobility, good gun and gun depression, armour fairly weak

brisk badger
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5 tank lines to grind (Conway hasn't been bought yet)

lone forge
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Nice

neat nimbus
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Any nation to start developing

lone forge
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The Italian one

hollow moth
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Same gun and different styles... HOW?

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Two Cannons 105 mm Gun T5E1 but one is very different than the other

analog vigil
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Yes ..like Last IS-3 gun and second IS-8 gun
They have same name but differents styles

neat nimbus
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Wait on t29 for real!?

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Dang I guess they nerfed the T29

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Worst things happened to me and T29 owners

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Hope if one Italian tank has more than one projectile

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I like multiple shoots

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French light tanks has that from 6 tier

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And I wish really my country got some good tanks

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Also desert wind was removed

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Which stinks cuz looks good on tanks such as t29

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It gives a pretty look

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Gonna hope full forward doesn't get removed too

placid adder
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Spaghetti tanks

hollow moth
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I'm finally liking play with M6 EXP, but everyone still giving damage

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But it's HE cuz they can't pen my front 😂 😂 😂

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It's better play with this tank in the computer

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Except ISU-152, it pen everything easy

elfin meadow
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Spaghetti tanks should get their own rare camo that’s just noodles all over them. Or a attachment

raven jacinth
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@neat nimbus what country are you from?

calm stratus
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I hate AMX 13 57 gun

vale horizon
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any idea when t-22 will be on offer ?

raven jacinth
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idk ask Wargaming

solid gate
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Yo,tips for using Grille please xD

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I don't know how to use the tank because I get spotted WAY too often.

ashen crest
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@analog vigil IS-3 gun BL-9 was same style before WG changed it

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Smae style than IS-8

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Same

analog vigil
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I know

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Oh the M6 EXP is white for a WZ-120-1G FT with HEAT he pen it easily

spice ivy
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the WZ-120-1G FT's a premium tank, no?

solid gate
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Premiums should be better than standard tanks

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No they shouldn't

tulip sail
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At most slightly better example: .5 sec faster reload for the same gun or 50 more health then its tech tree contemporary

wraith bough
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They should be equal with only aesthetic benefits

solid gate
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They should offer increased credit or XP earning potential while being slightly worse than their tech tree equivalent.

zenith zephyr
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They should give Nation Xp and you can use it without spend gold to get free xp

solid gate
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You pay for them so they should be better

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They should be better by offering a unique experience that pays out higher credits or XP. Not by being over powered when compared to their tech tree equivalents.

hexed bridge
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Premium vehicles should be different in their playstyle, feeling and be unique plus have a better Credit coefficient

solid gate
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yes

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smasher,wz ft>tanks like vindicator and other interesting tanks, :((

zenith zephyr
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They should be nerf ( Lupus )

solid gate
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for Progetto 65 lovers, something to enhance their desktop

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this sneakpeak should be al dente enough until it arrives with the rest of the Corleone family BlobJustRight

fossil violet
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do i see a camo installed on the progetto?

solid gate
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yes, my selfmade camoflage called Forestal Hunter
thats not a camo you will see in wotb unless wargaming would add it to their inventory

solid gate
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T57 OP? 🤦

zealous anchor
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Face hugging? @solid gate
I mean I wouldn't blame him that much after the buff if he's complaint about DPM 😬

chilly cargo
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I’m to broke to the get the cdc

solid gate
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there are better tanks tho

storm bluff
grand turtle
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Wow omg

neat nimbus
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@raven jacinth Mexico

neat nimbus
fossil violet
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vk 30.01

neat nimbus
solid gate
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When will the Italian tanks drop?

neat nimbus
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to start

fossil violet
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research the engines, they carry over to the higher tiers
are you looking forward to playing the tank or grinding to t7

neat nimbus
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ok

solid gate
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🕵

neat nimbus
fossil violet
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just slap on a lousy german stock warpaint

neat nimbus
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let me see i have supplie and engine at full power

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dang time to grind credits for equippemnets

fossil violet
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have fun

neat nimbus
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good i have premiun tanks

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hybrid nation dont need camo

calm stratus
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Well premiums used to be 0.5 tiers lower in practice

ancient iron
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anyone have an up-to-date blitz tank database they can link me to so I can check what this T6E1 I am being bombarded about is?

proven folio
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it gives me brain dmg to see newbies with OP prerium tanks in high tiers doing this....

ancient iron
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oof yeah :/ see I have bought several prems that I was undertiered for but never play them until I get a feel for those tiers when playing in a tech tree vehicle.... I wish other players did this too :/ aside from TOGs... no amount of T6 battling can prepare you for the TOG

proven folio
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togs are a bit rare in battles, but they are op. they can take tons of punches.... and they make good money too, one time i made 80k on my tog, no prerium acc and no boosters, just 2k dmg and 3 kills

raven jacinth
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@neat nimbus I mean there are 2 tanks with Mexican Origin, but those two are on a different game called World of Tanks PC, it's not the same as blitz, it's very much different

neat nimbus
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Dang and the space of memory is slow

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By the way what nation are those I can only assume is USA

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@ancient iron let find on google

ancient iron
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Found it... It's T4 and looks meh

neat nimbus
raven jacinth
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the HWK 30, a tank that looks a lot like the RU 251, is a German tank with Mexican origins. Essentially the tank was a part joint program with a German Company and Mexico to develop a tank in which they could use.

neat nimbus
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Alright

raven jacinth
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HWK 30:
The vehicle was proposed as a further development of the Ru 251 and primarily intended for export, particularly to Mexico. This variant inherited the same armor and armament from its predecessor, but featured an elongated hull and an additional support roller. The vehicle existed only in blueprints.

neat nimbus
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Like some vehicles in the game

raven jacinth
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nope

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just only that tank, the tank isn't even in World of Tanks Blitz

neat nimbus
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Like the Japanese heavies

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And artillery type tanks

solemn vine
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it wont let me buy the vk that they are offering? whats going on?

raven jacinth
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@neat nimbus no

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it's none

neat nimbus
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???

raven jacinth
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It's a German Tank with Mexican Origins

neat nimbus
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I get it

raven jacinth
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it's prototype RU 251

neat nimbus
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WoT blitz lacks some tanks I liked to use

raven jacinth
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They removed some after 5.5

thick trout
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Wot blitz is hopefully never getting the Japanese heavies or artillery

raven jacinth
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just resize the heavies lol

neat nimbus
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I don't think world of tanks is coming to switch

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But would be great if does only you to paid for online subscription

ebon tundra
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@thick trout artys would be easy to kill . The Maps are to smal

thick trout
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The artys would be like the 183 just a lot worse. Noone wants useless tanks that just depend on rng in blitz. Noone wants useless tanks that camp constantly rithrr do nothing or 1 hit kill things in blitz. Noone with any thought for the game wants artillery in blitz.

solid gate
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If you want artillery and Japanese heavies play PC or Console.

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Arty literally never comming

thick trout
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Thats 1 good decision from WG 🤷

neat nimbus
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I'm making my road to get the leopard 1

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I heard maus has good armor but bad gun and E100 good gun but bad armor

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I noticed the update removed the crimson fury camo

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Well hope make its way back after getting the leopard 1

worthy sparrow
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Blitz maps are to small for arts @thick trout and reload would take half match

ancient iron
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FINALLY! I have the upgraded gun on the Cent I

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shame I am nowhere near getting the last engine, and the first 2 are both T5 engines .-.

somber rampart
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K

hollow moth
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Pls somebody say it's fake

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A friend said some guys are testing Type 5 heavy (tier 10 heavy japanese tank) on RU server, I'm saying again DO NOT PUT JAPANESE HEAVY TANKS ON WOTB

solid gate
hollow moth
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Ohhhh thx

solid gate
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It's just modding, you can make any tank look like some other one

hollow moth
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If they put it in wotb, it will be a Rudy killer, a Panther/M10 killer, a bulldog killer, a T23E3 killer, a stock T54 killer

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A low pen tank killer

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The map is too small for this guys (like they said on the tweet)

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The damage is high and it's an invincible frontline fighter with team in a city map

hearty sandal
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look this

hollow moth
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Show it for a kid in a server and this kid will ban who say "guy it's fake"

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A guy already kicked me from a server only because i said "guy they are just don't making Japanese heavy tanks on wotb"

neat nimbus
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I hate smasher

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And KV 2

nocturne kite
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What you guys think of the M6A2E1 EXP, And how you feel about it?

IMO I feel it needs a little nerf for the weak spots. People may say that I’m just moaning about it as I’m “bad” but its happening to frequently and the fact that the weak spots are very small to hit on this specific variation of the M6a2e1 aswell as the huge RNG in blitz, I think the side cheeks need to be more open from the front for many players to hit. I find that the 2 “hard to hit” weak spots from the front is very difficult (cupola and side turret from front) and needs to be more easier for people to hit.

neat nimbus
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Agree

worldly bronze
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Heavy japans

fierce ingot
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Would you trade T95E6 for AMX CDC?

inland sorrel
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Nah. I'm close to mastering the E6

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Plus already have the CDC so its pointless

stable juniper
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Should you wave your gun around like a mad man in a grille to block shells?

fierce ingot
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@inland sorrel if you had to pick one which would you pick?

elfin meadow
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This is just me saying, I don’t play wot pc so idk how big the Japanese heavies are. If the pictures above are of the O Ho, at least from what it sounds like, and it’s the size of a Maus, and I heard the o ho is only a t8, how big is the t10, the type 5 or whatever it is?

hollow moth
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@nocturne kite i think M6 exp need a buff in armor behind the tracks, cuz the side is already the most bigger weakspot in the tank

fringe relic
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The Japanese heavies are ok as in terms of stats, they are much much larger than most heavies in the game

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Like much much larger

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That’s why the devs said they’re gonna be an issue with the maps

hollow moth
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@fringe relic a T-34-85 Rudy just can't fight a japanese heavy in the same tier, tanks with low pen just can't

fringe relic
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Referring to 7-10

hollow moth
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And the rudy is tier 7

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M10 panther too, t23e3...

nocturne kite
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I disagree , why buff a tank that has “hard to hit” weak points from the front. I find it at least fair to have some way at at least countering it. if it is played wrong I find it fine to punish through the track shot but but in most cases that is very rare as most people who grinded the tank were very good (I know you could use gold) even I couldn’t finish the last stage of 10000 stars.

hollow moth
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Stock T-54 is tier 9 and 175 mm pen

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@nocturne kite the tank is easy to pen, i played a little with it and the cannon is better than the armor in my opinion

nocturne kite
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Have you faced it?

hollow moth
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Shoot in the sides of the front armor (where it's not the angle)

nocturne kite
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If it is facing you

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Not so easy for a lot of tanks

hollow moth
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What about the turret?

nocturne kite
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Yeah try hit the sides of the turret with blitz rng

hollow moth
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Side of the turret is a trash

nocturne kite
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I know it’s a weak spot but it’s small to hit

hollow moth
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Better than don't try

nocturne kite
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What are you suggesting then?

hollow moth
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Is better try to shoot the sides than just surrender

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Or retreat for round

jaunty brook
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I've done it before, mostly with BP.

nocturne kite
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Yes but the problem is trading is very hard, the aim time is very bad, and retreating isn’t always done in blitz as most players don’t run away as they’re leaving a gap open for the M6a2e1 to move up

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It has a very strong fear factor to many tanks that have a pen below 220

hollow moth
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It's a hull out tank so it's normal be almost invincible on the front, you need:
Plan number one: shoot in the side of the front (if you have more than 250mm pen)
Plan number two: shoot in the turret
Plan number three: retreat for a better place to go to other place and scape the face hug

nocturne kite
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Face hug is suicide I know that

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And not a lot of guns excluding TD have high pen if not using gold

hollow moth
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When i play with the tank i take 8 shoots and i can block only 4 or 5

nocturne kite
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Did you grind?

hollow moth
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Not so much without premium account or less than 1500 dmg

nocturne kite
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Wait so you did grind but not majorly

hollow moth
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No the grind is easy cuz the cannon is very well and easy to make dmg

nocturne kite
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No I mean to earn the tank

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I meant mission for it , sorry:

hollow moth
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Yes, it's easy to make credits cuz it's a dmg maker

nocturne kite
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No no. The mission you had to do to get the M6a2e1 for free

hollow moth
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Ok the idk what operation, right?

nocturne kite
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We are on the EXP right?

hollow moth
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Yup

nocturne kite
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I play Germ and I find it very hard to hit the frontal weakspots of a M6a2e1 with either the 10.5mm tiger 2 or vk1001 stock gun, i would find it good just to make it a little easier; maybe make the side cheeks more open for pen

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Or even the lower part of the tank becomes the weak spot like the original

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Some sort of reduction at the bottom no model change

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Maybe around 230-40 so at least gold can pen for some tanks

hollow moth
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No no no, the sides can be HE and you are talking to nerf the front? An extreme angle can be perfect for pen the side armor

nocturne kite
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Who angles the M6a2e1?

fiery crown
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M6 is fine as it is

nocturne kite
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I find it a little unfair. It’s just hard to hit the turret weakspots for me and my friends. Even I use t8 heavy tanks and I feel like I’m just not able to do anything

hollow moth
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I'm saying, just don't let him hull out or shoot in the turret or in the side of the front, and it's easy, when you go to a corner always show a little bit of the side (just wait for the perfect time and shoot there)

nocturne kite
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Are you regarding the M6a2e1 to do that (last sentence)

hollow moth
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Let me use google translator cuz idk what means regarding 🤷

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No, I'm saying when the tank is fighting on the corner you can't show the cannon for shoot and show only the front with a goot retreat, or you show a little the side for shoot or you stay and take a lot of shoots, if the guy show the sides for shoot and retreat, try to hit the side in the perfect moment

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For me the M6A2E1 EXP is perfectly balanced for his tier

nocturne kite
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I’m thinking of the player against the M6a2e1 , not how the M6a2e1 need to play. There need to be a bigger opening for a player to hit those cheeks. It’s hard from distance and suicide in hugs

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Just a different subject, u think the tiger 2 balanced?

fiery crown
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M6 are easy to take out in almost any HT....the sides are paper the cheeks are big enough weak spots

hollow moth
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For kills someone you need to know how this guy play, i never played with tiger 2 so can't talk about it

fiery crown
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I play tiger 2 and the accuracy on it second to none after Lowe

nocturne kite
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@fiery crown for pc player maybe, I don’t know as I play mobile

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That’s about the M6a2e1

hollow moth
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And we are talking about the big M6, but write only m6 is faster

nocturne kite
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I got it already saved as a shortcut

hollow moth
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Just some tips for you kill easier a M6 EXP
Long range fight isn't a good idea (but if it isn't found you so try it)

Never let is face hug you, shoots in front weakspots if you can

Turret is already weak so shoot in the cupola or near it and it's easy at medium and low range

If the enemy is alone circle it, if there is one more guy try to use the M6 for the other don't hit you, if there is more than 2 guys with M6... R U N

If you are in a short tank, you can face hug his sides but be careful and try it when allies are away (help is aways good)

In the first minutes of the match is easier hit it's weakpoints cuz probably it's shooting in another guy
@nocturne kite

fringe relic
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You would only play the M6 because it would unlock the 90mm gun for the T29, saving you the gun research, this only happens in Pc and not mobile as gun research is separate

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And the Japanese heavies on mobile would be way stronger compared to the pc because of the PC’s larger map sizes, allowing for increase maneuverability and flanking opportunities by lighter vehicles

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Where as mobile has much smaller maps where it more often than not has a heavy preference for front line tanks or skirmishing and flanking meds and lights

hollow moth
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No no no, the armor will still ultra mega strong and it break and destroy medium and light tanks gameplay

fringe relic
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That’s what I’m saying, smaller maps, less opportunities to flank and get side shots

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That’s why Japanese heavies would be stronger in blitz

hollow moth
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Ohhh sorry i thinked you was defending japanese heavy tank

fringe relic
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Also you don’t have the +2 match making of pc

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God forbid +3 matchmaking back when light tanks were a tier up

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Blitz players have it easier

hollow moth
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For me wg can put polish guys, italian guys, sweedish guys, alien guys but no japanese heavy tanks, just don't

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This idea is like MG idea, look like good but if you think a little bit more there is a incredible matchmaker destroyer

fringe relic
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There are little to no polish vehicles, Italians tanks historically were outdated (due to their country being unindustrialized in ww2) Swedish tanks are really good

hollow moth
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Put every nation, i don't care but NO for japanese heavy guys

warm cradle
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Why

fringe relic
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Smaller map sizes favors heavies and would dominate tier 6-7gameplay

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The tier 5’s armor isn’t as good and can be penned by a good amount of tier 5 tanks

hollow moth
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Too large for circle, the mad is smaller for flank it, the armor break the medium and light tanks gameplay, too easy for side scraping (the armor is already op for wotb so imagine with angles), etc

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It's a Trojan idea, look like good but F$&# the game

plucky summit
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How about like nerf it

scarlet nest
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How about big map with 14vs14 players

tacit gull
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CDC or superpershing package worth it?

scarlet nest
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Yes i got both tanks
And it is really worth

tacit gull
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Ooh, I only have enough for one which is better?

scarlet nest
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So you like the nice armor then buy superpershing

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And looking for speed then play AMX

tacit gull
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Ahhhhh, thanks cheese

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Also, is better to buy full or just basic?

scarlet nest
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Superpershing have really nice front armor
But it can be pen the high turret side or lower armor(lower armor is very hard to pen)

But speed is bad, and dps is just avarage

cloud vector
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Speed is moee likely Mediocre

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More*

scarlet nest
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AMX CDC have best accelerate and nice dps
6.2 sec to 220, but the armor is paper

So it is mt to ram sombody.(its really fun) very high speed, nice dps(not the best btw)

tacit gull
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Haha sounds like cdc is fun, but wt Auf rip he

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Are the camos worth"?

scarlet nest
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I don't have any money left after bought the cdc so...

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I'm just gonna pass

solid gate
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CDC has 5.5 s reload @scarlet nest

plucky summit
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If you max the reloading stats without consumables

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also 225 damage I believe

candid blade
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Hello

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Which tank better e50m or leopard 1

devout tapir
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Um I only ever driven the leopard 1. However, subjectively speaking, the E50m is way better.

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The Japanese tech tree has been in Blitz for 3 years and we still have one line lol.

solid gate
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Well we ain't getting more lines lmao

plucky summit
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we goin Italian yezz

glacial solar
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anyone got the ETA on the italians, gotta save free xp

plucky summit
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just save up : P

scarlet nest
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I don't even started the charioteer line xD

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Glad that new updaes comes

compact wraith
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How op would a consumable that removed the top speed limit be

plucky summit
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big Op and probably not that helpful unless you're willing to ram the edge of the map or literally anything

solid gate
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🇷 🇦 🇲

plucky summit
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the would actually be fun chaos

compact wraith
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Unless u don’t have enough engine in the first place

plucky summit
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meh if you have acceleration at all you can do it

regal zealot
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With my IS-4 grind coming to a close, what tank should I get next? Currently grinding the SU-101, Caernarvon, Waffle, T25/2, SP 1 C, Jackson, SU-100 and ARL V39.
Can rebuy the Vk 100.01 P for the Maus or buy the T-54 to grind for the Russian Meds

warped flint
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I have an issue withnthe löwe

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Its turet was on the back on vlueprints not middle

zealous anchor
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Waffle

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Realism doesnt rhyme with Wargaming but I don't blame them

rigid thunder
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Taken from tank encyclopedia "Many different designs were proposed and drawn up during the Löwe’s short life; some had the turret in the front, some had the turret in the middle, and some placed the turret at the rear. Some designs were given a 15cm gun, while most used a 10,5cm. There remain specifications of six designs, however their blueprints, and possibly the existence of dozens of more designs, have been lost to history." @warped flint

regal zealot
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^^^

warped flint
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Then can we do the 2 diffrent designs

rigid thunder
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That's basically the VK 72.01 K

warped flint
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Then im fine

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What about the german kv 1b but its a tier six

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And its a prem tank

deep lark
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Just got personal trail to earn a VK45. Has anyone done these before? Are they worth it?

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What do you get on the 5 day grind?

raven rampart
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Italy and Italian pizza mixed with chernobyl and radiation

strange sorrel
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U have allé t10

solid gate
small compass
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ok its been awhile since i ask a week in a half go is the t26e5 coming? like i was shock when amx cdc came out even there was an event for a chance of winning it. There were so many chances to get amx cdc why not the new tanks. Hopefully when the t34 1776 is remove i hope t26e5 is replace by it maybe

pastel drum
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@small compass T34 1776 will not removed. About the T25E5 just hold your horses and calm down. It will eventually come

proven folio
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is T6E1 becoming the most rare tank in game?

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@solid gate think about it. EARN a vk. EARN. earn isnt pay for it

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but is T6E1 becoming more rare?

ocean maple
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@pastel drum it's getting removed in 18 hours🤡

zealous anchor
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Should I get FV4005 or M48 Patton first?

fossil violet
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m48

neon comet
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When grinding the t-44 from stock, which modules should I get first?

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And if I were to use free xp to expedite the grind on any of the modules, which would be the best to try for

regal zealot
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Get the turret first, then 100mm guns

neon comet
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Gun before mobility then

regal zealot
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Yes. The 85mm is going to be very hard to utilize effectively

neon comet
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👍🏻

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Get both 100mm guns ASAP, or is the first 100mm good enough to grind with?

regal zealot
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1st is good enough for grinding

sullen depot
#

Sup y’all

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My favorite tank so far is the m41 bulldog and the kv2

pulsar portal
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Wish

sullen depot
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Wish what?

echo ingot
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How much credits do you get for selling VK 45.03?

wind adder
#

Why even sell the tank in the first place

echo ingot
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Because you dont need 20 prem tanks but you need credits?

formal nova
#

That’s short term thinking right there^^ keep it m8 and play for what you paid for. You didnt pay for 500k credits did ya?

autumn berry
#

Share your general knowledge with me. I found out Indien Pz has spotting range of 302 meters and T44 by 1 meter less

twilit siren
#

?

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I donf feel like 1v1ing right now its 10:56pm and im just chillin

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I dont wanna argue over tanks im just chillin

solid gate
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@echo ingot myb about 1m?

calm stratus
#

What do you say about the Bagelpanzer 57, are my stats for it balanced?
Begleitpanzer 57

Tier: 8
HP: 1300
Viewrange: 265m

Firepower

Shell
 DPM: 2600
 Penetration: 130/190
 Damage: 90/75
 Module damage: 70
 Burst Damage: 720/600
 Velocity: 1150m/s (AP)/1350m/s (APDS)
 Penetration loss over distance: 20%/45%
Caliber: 57.0
Rate of Fire: 28.89
Magazine reload: 9.2s
Magazine size: 8
Time before next shell is ready: 0.5s

Gun Handling

Base aim time: 1s
Dispersion: 0.34
Dispersion factors:
 When moving: 0.07
 When rotating: 0.07
 When rotating turret: 0.03
 After shot: 1.8
Gun angles:
 Depression: 8°
 Elevation: 45°
Aiming arc: 360°
Turret traverse speed: 45°/s

Mobility

Weight: 30t
Engine power: 930hp
Speed:
 Forward: 75km/h
 Backward: 35km/h
Power/weight ratio: 31
Terrain resistance: 0.7/0.8/1.5
Effective hp/t: 44.26/38.75/20.67
Base traverse: 50°/s
Size: 6.79m x 3.24m x 2.98m
Concealment:
 While still: 33%
 While moving: 33%
 Upon firing while still: 15%
 Upon firing while moving: 15%
woeful pumice
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130 pen for AP?

calm stratus
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It's a 57mm autocannon on a Dracula quick light tank

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So I think 130mm is fine, you're not supposed to pen front plates

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@woeful pumice I tried to make it completely different from any other tank at the tier by making it unable to snipe (pen falloff is mad), but gave it far better camo when firing than other tanks, so it can kemp Bush and not get lit instantly when it unloads on someone

Though the correct way to play it is to use the mobility and Soviet gunhandling to steadily annoy people to death

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It's a scout first and foremost, but it can also hurt people who let it get behind them

woeful pumice
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Sound like a fun tank to drive

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I only mentioned the pen because it can’t pen the mauschen without apcr

calm stratus
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Most tier 8 lights can't really pen it without gold anyway

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But based on my numbers, the Bagelpanzer 57 can 1v1 any equal tier LT and win

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Will probably tone it down

clear jasper
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I just saw an Progetto 65 in a battle (tier 10 one) it looks like an Leopard 1 but with more gunmantlet armor and an special and unique Auto-reloading meganism. Its like 5s reload u can shoot one already shell 10s u can shoot both 15s u can shoot all. like the leopard 1 it hasnt much armor. It dealt more dmg per shot then i thought (310 dmg i thought but was 350) it has like other autoloaders 3 shells in the magazine. Sound like pretty cool tho

calm stratus
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All tier 10 105s do 350

brisk badger
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Nope

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The BatChat is a 310

clear jasper
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Yeah i thought like the bc 25t it has 105mm gun also t54e1 has same caliber so it deals 310 dmg cuz an autoloader (for balance i guess) but one does 350 dmg but its an sort of auto-loader

raven jacinth
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the M4A1 Rev. has a 105mm and does 310

short flame
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at tier 8 all 10.5 cm guns are doing 310 instead of 350

robust dirge
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Does anybody know how to get the progetto?

regal zealot
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They’re given to testers @robust dirge

robust dirge
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@regal zealot ok thanks.

elfin meadow
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So this is my main accounts KV2, and I have the menacing camo for it. On my brothers account, he has the KV2, but not the camo. In the camo interface, it shows the menacing camo having a different image on the side of the turret, I believe it’s the wg logo. Maybe it’s just cuz my brother still has the stock turret, and it’ll change once he gets the better turret

stark sluice
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dont think so, send pic of brothers kv2

elfin meadow
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He just got it so everything’s stock

solid gate
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Stock turret changes the image

elfin meadow
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That’s what I thought. Thanks!

calm stratus
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Was about to post that

high ice
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Hi somone think amx 30 b need To replace on Tech tree french after the bat chat 25 t ap t9, for have two choice on t 10 light french

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So i think japan heavy need To add heavy japan a lot be long like italien tank

regal zealot
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Japanese HTs? No

thick trout
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30b is a collectors and WG arent going to change that and we do not ever want to see Japanese heavies in the game

regal zealot
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But I would be interested in Japanese TDs, there are quite a few of them that can be considered

solid gate
warm cradle
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Why

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R the jap heavies too big ???

lyric copper
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yeah

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only thing bigger than a type 5 is a maus

elfin meadow
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Idk. Like I said a few days ago, I don’t play PC, so idk how big they are. I saw a guy that used mods to use the O Ho, the t8, and that was the size of a Maus. The t10, the Type 5, idk how big that is.

regal zealot
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I’d be ok if they don’t use derps

lyric copper
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also, the HE guns require no skill whatsoever

hushed shadow
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Damn I didn’t realize WG did that for the KV2 and it’s camo. That’s cool

dark sundial
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I think that integrating the Italian barrel system with the Is 3 Defender tanks and the T28 Defender would be a good idea, it will avoid the fate of the is3A which would surpass the defenders

What do you think ?

short flame
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actually Type5 heavy is way bigger than maus lol @lyric copper

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its just as huge as Jgpze100, but has even higher hull

sullen depot
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I just wish they would make the m1 abrams available in the USA line

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You know the most latest greatest USA battle tank

short flame
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haha, i hope for you that's a joke

neat nimbus
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Weak armor no surprised

solid gate
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When you nerf KV2 all uninstall...

thick trout
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No when you remove KV2 people will actually play the game

quasi mirage
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The japanese heavy excuse is too big is a lol tier excuse. Too big just hurts the japanese heavies. The real problem is that it would likely be unbalanced

red shoal
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buff wz 120 1 ft

solid gate
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Lmaoo

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That actually made me laugh

sullen depot
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Wow that hurts as a us citizen lol

lone forge
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Lmao, wargaming is going to nerf the KV-2

sullen depot
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Nerf?

formal lotus
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So is the Foch 155 getting the 155 swapped for a ortoloder aw will we have a choice between Guns ?

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Or*

plucky summit
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Choice

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@sullen depot KV-2’s HE pen is getting a nerf iirc

sullen depot
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So your saying it will be less powerful.

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I never liked he anyway lol

lone forge
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Yes, nerf HE shell from the KV-2 @sullen depot

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Here, watch this

kindred night
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Noice so they actually added an alternative gun for the foch, and just how i wanted it to be , 155mm shots and 2 shells

sullen depot
#

Damb

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Wish the wouldn’t do that to the armor I’ll die every game

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Lol

solid gate
#

I wonder if they are gonna add the Italian TDs like the CV-35

plucky summit
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I'd love to get that

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I would be willing to grind an event for that little bug

sullen depot
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Lol looks ugly but hey if you like it cool

neat nimbus
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Some don't even use the grave digger

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I want a angle for a lot of bounces

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So I can just entrain myself

plucky summit
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They'll aim for weak spots and you can only hope RNG makes their shells hit the angled plate

neat nimbus
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Unless I'm on a tricky spot

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When I play with the T29 I tend find a spot to protect the below part and keep the turret always facing on the enemy

plucky summit
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Yep, taking as many hulldown positions as you need just to stay strong

neat nimbus
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I don't recommend to do that alone

plucky summit
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Especially against a wide angle of enemies :

neat nimbus
#

Yeah

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The m6whataver name was exp is very op

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No even a kV 2 can stand a chance

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Of course I didn't get anything in the event

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Cuz I was done with 5 years event

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I wanted a break

elfin meadow
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Why would a KV2 be with a M6 exp

neat nimbus
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I believe KV 2 has high damage inflict

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But won't be enough for a M6 whatever name was exp

plucky summit
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M6A2E1 EXP, tier VIII, which can only be encountered trough a fail toon with a KV-2 and a tier VII that was down-tiered. It'll be very hard to HE pen or AP pen or well, pAP pen but you can always splash the deck by shooting the turret ring

crystal hazel
#

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brisk badger
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@plucky summit of the EXP? If so the EXP has 191mm of deck armour bc...um...murica

plucky summit
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oh... I figured it would be weak

empty lake
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Why are they gonna nerf my favorite KV-2?

brisk badger
plucky summit
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that's just... disturbing. also @empty lake it can one shot too many tanks so it's being isolated to less tanks to one shot, isn't that why it was your favorite?

brisk badger
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Go play a 152

sullen depot
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How do you get that thing

brisk badger
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Buy it or in the event you missed

empty lake
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@plucky summit well its gun has low accuracy at long range so if its gonna get nerfed they also must increase its accuracy a bit.

heady pewter
#

i wish wg hadnt nerfed my tankenstien,,,now it isnt worth the powder to blow it to hell

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i buy tanks cause they powerfull then they get nerfed cause of whiners now it isnt fun to drive anymore

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they cut its dpm in half!! that sucks

sullen depot
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Ya it does

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I’m worried about my kv2 and what they will do to it

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Ow and the armor thing that tells you how thick it is how do you get that?

empty bramble
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Guys this KV-2 nerf is terrible

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Why nerf the most popular tank at tier 6? It doesn't one-shot as much as it used to, and I think most KV-2 drivers would confirm that.

eternal crypt
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calm down kids only the he pen will get nerfed sealclubing whiners

empty bramble
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Yeah, but the HE pen makes the tank. In return for the worst accuracy and one of the longest loading times of the game, along with bad pen, lame armor, slow speed, and mediocre HP, it gets a high-damage gun which can sometimes one-shot tanks but mostly gets about 400 splash damage.

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It'll ruin the tank if it goes through.

eternal crypt
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Good

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now u guys can go learn the game

empty bramble
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Everyone enjoys the game their own way...I like to have fun with the KV-2. This is a casual, mobile game after all.

static token
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the kv2 is virtually the heart of all the Russian bias memes and Stalin's hand will guide ur shell memes

neat nimbus
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what about the tanks i have

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im worried all of them get nerfed

solid gate
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Buy bad tanks @neat nimbus they won't get nerfed. We Smart

neat nimbus
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like what

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oh

simple fractal
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Greetings . I'm ZePtyXNewbie. I could ask to test the Italian Progetto 65 tank. Whether that would be possible?

tight fulcrum
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Never probably 😉

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Jk, you'll get it as soon as it comes in game and you research it and buy it.

median oak
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We don’t pick testers.

tight fulcrum
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Community helpers don't work for Wargaming. So we can't help you with that.

wise moth
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@simple fractal Unfortunately, testers have already been picked, and you will be unable to test the Progetto.

spring thunder
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Foch 155: 13,5s reload time. 2 shots in 27s. VS Foch 155 autoloader: 1 shot in 15,6s. 2 shots in 22,7s (15,6s + 7,1s)

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where's the down side with this new gun ?? lol

elfin meadow
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The downside is to people that don’t have it

sullen depot
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I love my bulldog I drift while bullets fly by

regal zealot
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@spring thunder I’d change the clip reload to 19.9s to make both guns viable choices, as they’ll end up with the same DPM

scarlet nest
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But reload is really important with some situation

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Like if i have 0.1 more sec to shoot
But the enemy shoots first
Situation

sullen depot
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Yes it’s really important

solid gate
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Should I buy AT2 oof

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I'm doing badly with Alecto oof

valid lodge
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Alecto has no armor. At-2 has really good armor

flint eagle
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At2 is great

Speaking of that line- what does it take to Ace the AT15?

vast turret
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Can we get the WZ 111 5a to replace the WZ 113 or have it as another option?

limber aurora
#

CDC worth getting? I have some gold...

regal zealot
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Wait for Black Friday Sales

limber aurora
#

Ok maybe I’ll do free XP with the gold I have seems like a good option to get some stuff done on this dam Leo PTA

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20 battles or something stock hurts my brain on how bad it is

shrewd basin
#

Should I start grinding leopard or stb 1 ?

raven jacinth
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idk one is a comp tank other is not'

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STB has like one of the best view range

scarlet nest
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@limber aurora if want CDC as bad as me you will like it

It is similar with ru251/with more accretion and lower dps

plucky summit
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Hah, got CDC for free 😎

scarlet nest
solid gate
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It's supposed to be thick

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Calibrated shells and premium ammo exist for a reason

kindred pasture
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wow you're so cool

solid gate
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Thanks, I ain't even trying

devout tapir
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Why do you take everything so seriously xDD

static token
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it needs that armour bc of its slow reload

static token
solid gate
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static token
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and have you ever played the t49?

rigid urchin
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t49 is fine

static token
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@rigid urchin he's just triggered that I exposed him

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for being a hypocrite

rigid urchin
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the Charioteer makes the T49 irrelevent anyways

static token
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plus pen succ

rigid urchin
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pre nerf T49 was the deal though

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ammo racking there and there

valid lodge
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Hello

zealous anchor
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Is stock borsig bad, the gun

thick trout
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No stock borsigs gun is better tham the top gun

valid lodge
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Wait really?

thick trout
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It has accuracy 🤷

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Top gun is just luck if you hit

zealous anchor
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Wait what the accuracy is garbage but I guess it's either cause of crew skills or cause it has a turret

thick trout
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The stock gun is like a lazer but the top gun is on the other sidenof the scale

pulsar portal
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In my t49 the borsig is it’s natural prey/ stay away at all costs to not get shot

simple fractal
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@wise moth thank u for answer

median elm
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T-34-85 or VK 36.01 H?

simple fractal
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Itz heavy and Med ....

rigid thunder
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If you're asking which line to go down first, definitely the T-34-85

empty lake
zealous anchor
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Armour only works driving forward, or hulldown
Don't think your manlet is impenetrable in front of high penetration TDs
Useless excellent speed to work on flanks and push with mediums if the situation allows
Excellent sniper
Don't trust people who just tell you to yolo. It's not that simple. Yolo only when the situation is assessed to be viable for a push/rush then you yolo with teammates.
Hull down god, but Ridgeline potato

Hope it helps.

regal zealot
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^^^

bronze rock
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Its cool that foch is getting an autoloader, but i don’t understand why it takes 7 seconds to do 1200 damage while a heavy tank autoloader (T57) can do 1200 damage in 5 seconds, now i know that the magazine reload is much faster in the foch than the T57, but why should a TD be exposed for more time to unload it’s shells, that sounds like something a heavy should do, in my personal opinion without any intention of offending anyone, it would be better for foch to have higher burst damage with longer magazine reload time as a compromise. 😋

solid gate
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WT auf E100, part 2

lone forge
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Lool

thick trout
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@bronze rock it has over 1.5x the alpha so can trade much better and it only has to expose twice instead of almost constantly for 5 sec

bronze rock
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Yes It has to expose twice, but tanks like T57 have to expose once because its not worth getting cover for a 2.5 s reload speed, its like the shots are continuous

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We just have to see how it preforms, this is just mere poor speculation from me based on what i saw

regal zealot
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Actually, they have to move quite a bit, if not, they’ll eat shots in the turret

bronze rock
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Yeah but still its for 5 seconds not 7

regal zealot
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The Foch already has the advantage of having troll armor if angled properly when pulling back into cover, while the two autoloading HTs don’t have the luxury of bouncing shots

bronze rock
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True, mobility also has a great role in wiggeling for those 7 secs

blissful geyser
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The ru 251 needs a buff.... With its 180 pen it's very hard to pen anything... And specially when you meet tier 9s and sometimes I meet tier 10s... I litrily can't pen anything... This tank needs a pentration buff because the pentration is very weak

dark sundial
#

it's light

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T54 light have got 175 pen and t49 with 90mm have 173

rigid thunder
#

180 pen is good, especially with a tank with that level of mobility. You shouldn't be expecting much pen from a light tank as well

lone forge
#

Never saw one of them

hollow moth
#

Why the #$@& the KV-220 T only takes tier 5-6 battles, no tier 5-4 battles and super rarely a battle with only tier 5

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Do you want a fair battle? All with the same tier and playing with a kv-220 t?
No, never, nein, niet, non, não!
The matchmaker just give 5-6 battles!
The cannon just can't fight some tier 5 so imagine a tier 6? If you find an ARL 44 and this ARL turn the turret to you... YOU IS DEAD
A fast tier 6 with more than 100mm penetration? YOU IS DEAD
A tier 6 with more than 110mm armor? YOU IS DEAD

obsidian snow
#

Mauerbrecher from PC

thick trout
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Tier 4 is rarely played but tier 6 is played a lot so it is obvious you will be uptiered a lot

hollow moth
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I paid for the tier 5 KV-220 T and i want to play on de FU#$&@₩% TIER 5

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It's almost impossible stay alive when you find a tier 6
So buff it's cannon and make it penetration more than 140mm and buff a little bit the engine or fix the matchmaker for KV-220T cuz it's really hard play on tier 6 using a tier 5 without more than 104 mm with ap

neon comet
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@blissful geyser the low ap pen encourages smarter game play in the ru. It was never meant to sit in front of heavy tanks to trade shots. That said, the Heat pen is quite satisfactory, and the HE is icing on the cake

Ps: it has the best penetration of any tier 8 tech tree light tank

solid dust
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Bring the waffen trauger auf e100 to blitz 😭 I own every tank in game on blitz except 5 and I would really enjoy it if you bring my bb from console to here 🥺

rigid thunder
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@hollow moth The bad gun is the balancing factor for that tank's hull armour

solid gate
#

@solid dust no.

hollow moth
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The wafffen trauger e100 is like mind eater on stranger things, not good idea @solid dust

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@rigid thunder but not balanced when in 10 battles 9 is with tier 6 tanks

solid dust
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Well they should bring it since the Foch is getting a auto loader just maybe adjust it for match making purposes

rigid thunder
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That's just your bad luck, nothing to do with how the tank is balanced

hollow moth
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Bad luck? Bad luck? I played with different tier 5 and only with kv220t i find a lot of tier 6 battles

solid gate
#

It can't be balanced so it will never come @solid dust

solid dust
#

😭

solid gate
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Or will it?

hollow moth
#

Probably no

solid dust
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😧

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I would contribute just to see it come to blitz

rigid thunder
#

The only way I would see the Wt Auf E100 come into the game would be in an incredibly nerfed state, to the point where it's unusable

solid gate
#

It ain't happening

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Wg already screwed up putting it in WoT, doubt they'll do it again with WoTB

#

X

solid dust
#

It would be a dream come true to see that tank come to blitz even if it were nerfed

thick trout
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@hollow moth kv220 is already blatantly better than the kv1 so stop complaining

hollow moth
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@thick trout always tier 6 battles with 104 penetration

thick trout
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No they are not

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That is just a lie. You get the same amountf tier 6 battles as every other tier 5

hollow moth
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When i fight with kv-220 t 9 in every 10 battles are with tier 6 guys, no only tier 5

thick trout
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Read what i said again

hollow moth
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And with others tier 5 there is a mix

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Not a lie can play now and send 10 prints

thick trout
#

You
See
The
Same
Amount
Of
Tier
6s
As
Othet
Tier
5s
Do

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You have stupid armour at tier 5 and you pay for that with your pen and speed

hollow moth
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Nope, i just see more tier 6 in kv-220t than in others, in others i find more only tier 5

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Let me fight and show for you

thick trout
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Yes ofc because WG have specifically targetet not just you but one tank and made it sonit is always uptiered

hollow moth
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Because i know for what I'm paying

thick trout
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You had every chance to see what the tank was like beforehand and so you have no right at all to complain

hollow moth
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Not a lie and not a conspiracy, i will show for you

thick trout
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Yeah ofc its all true

rigid thunder
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ooh is someone saying the matchmaking is biased

thick trout
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Go and put on your tin foil hat

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@rigid thunder not just against him but against 1 specific tank

rigid thunder
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@hollow moth Well onto what you were previously saying, got any hard evidence?

hollow moth
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I'm fighting for show 10 prints, not any "ultra high evidence for the killer" cuz i don't know about the codes and numbers for program matchmaking

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But i think there is something wrong with kv-220t

thick trout
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Yes WG have specifically put in 1 paragraph of code just to spite you when you are playing your kv220

solid gate
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Surely

thick trout
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Its the logical explanation...

hollow moth
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No I'm just tellingim other actualization for the game, review cuz there is something wrong

pastel drum
#

What makes you think KV220 is special

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Sorry, accidentally deleted my first message so I retyped it

hollow moth
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Cuz i noticed there is more tier 6 battles than others tier 5 tanks

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Maybe for the armor

rigid thunder
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As I said earlier, this is most likely just a coincidence

hollow moth
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Maybe too

rigid thunder
#

There are days where you'll find yourself bottom tier in majority of your battles

thick trout
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And there are days where you are top tier

hollow moth
#

Yes it makes some sense🤔

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I think it's more for time than for day, like this morning i saw a lot of tier 6 battles but now there is more tier 5 battles

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And the there is more people on the server

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Oof all make sense now, i use to play at morning and nights

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And there is less players at this times

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Yes make sense

night citrus
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but thing is, after the nerf, not many play the tier 4 tanks cuz tier 5s can easily nom on them for breakfast

brisk orbit
#

tips for stock wt auf pz iv just researched it

night citrus
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use the 150mm and spam HE

thick trout
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Use the 128 and you will do well. It has decent dpm and pen but not great @brisk orbit

deft lava
#

so what exactly is happening to the KV-2 in 6.2

night citrus
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kv2 -> nerf, smasher = no changes

thick trout
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@deft lava Less HE pen, 10mm i think

regal zealot
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HE pen nerf to 76

solid gate
#

Tbf they haven't announced all the changes coming in 6.2....

Who knows what other surprises there may be.

thick trout
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Dont raise my hopes too much @solid gate

deft lava
#

rip

tepid briar
#

You know what is funny. Everyone hates kv2.....until they get one. Then they love it. So here is an idea. Research the darn thing!

tulip sail
#

I researched it and still hated it

neon comet
#

It has a frustrating gun

tepid briar
#

Nah it’s like playing the lotto

solid gate
#

I haven't played it in like 1.5 years

neon comet
#

Yeah you can oneshot tanks, but often you either miss entirely or just don’t pen

tulip sail
#

Its unfun for me and annoying to play

solid gate
#

Tbh I don't feel like playing it

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Played it. It's a unfun RNG slot machine.

thick trout
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@tepid briar ive done my time as a noob and i am never going back there

tepid briar
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Well we found people in the minority final

solid gate
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Smth like pz4s or crom b are much more enjoyable

neon comet
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Or vk 28.01

thick trout
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Even tog is more fun...

tulip sail
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Or shermans

neon comet
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Eh, keep your Sherman

tepid briar
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@thick trout of course tog is more fun

tulip sail
#

The tog is a fun meme

sullen depot
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Or bulldog lol

neon comet
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Bulldog is tier 7

tulip sail
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Ofc I'm keeping all of my shermans it took too long to get them

solid gate
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Wrong tier -_-

neon comet
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@tulip sail not what I meant

sullen depot
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Well still it ransacked a kv2lol

tepid briar
#

People don’t hate the kv2 they hate the rng attached to it

neon comet
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American guns are meh

tulip sail
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Lol ik

sullen depot
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Meh?

tulip sail
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No I hate the kv2 itself

And it's not the guns that make them so fun

solid gate
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People hate getting deleted in one shot

neon comet
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I like the oneshot aspect. It adds to the thrill of playing a light tank

sullen depot
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Yes lol I love drifting by kv2s shots then they blow up the chat with crap lol

solid gate
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One mistake --> boom

neon comet
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Yep!

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So much more satisfying when you manage to walk that fine line on the brink of disaster and make it through

tulip sail
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Tbh I may suck in lights but they are alot of fun

solid gate
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Tbh no tank should have the ability to delete 100% hp of most equal tier tanks

neon comet
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Nah

tulip sail
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Wait we can say "suck" if its pointed at ourselves right?

neon comet
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I think it is fine. They pay for it with not playing in most of the game (reloading)

solid gate
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Only like tog and m6 can't be one shot because they have a lot of hp

neon comet
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@solid gate any tank can potentially oneshot any other tank

solid gate
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😑

neon comet
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Ammo rack

solid gate
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I ain't talking about that, happens very rarely

sullen depot
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Ya done that 3+ times today

neon comet
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Some folks are quite good at it

solid gate
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I hate that the KV-2 allows a subpar player to put down damage numbers far beyond their abilities in any other tank. It is a crutch tank that allows a a poor player to hold way too much sway over a match and it creates bad habits in the playerbase that go far beyond tier VI.

sullen depot
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I always apologize for it when I wipe them clean

solid gate
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This upcoming nerf was a long time coming and fully deserved.

neon comet
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@solid gate they generally only manage to take out other subpar players though

solid gate
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That is false

sullen depot
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I love the kv2 even though it swipes my XP’s in my bulldog

thick trout
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@solid gate any more and the clip potential would be enough for a 1 clip kill

sullen depot
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Lol

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I hate the su line the kill me every time

neon comet
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So don’t sit in front of the dangerous end

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🙂

sullen depot
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Lol I try not to kv2s are so slooooowwwww

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And don’t dare miss or your dead

neon comet
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Oh yeah. On the bright side, this nerf will be like a buff to the KV 1s

sullen depot
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Really by reducing the armor?

neon comet
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You now can defeat HE 100% of the time by angling I believe

solid gate
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I laughed soo hard when they said that Kv2 is getting nerfed in live stream

sullen depot
#

🥺

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I waited 2hrs to start the Soviet line to get to the kv2

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Why is no one talking now?

solid gate
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Dead chat

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Tired of talking about the KV-2 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen depot
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👀🤷‍♂️

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Sorry can’t help it

nova solar
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Hey guys im seeing a penetration error on my vks gun(cause i run calibrated shells on the thing) so i expected higher penetration but im going to show you pics that you have to very carefully look to find the error

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Look at average pen on the calibrated shell and look at the average pen on the munntions themselves,its different

forest jacinth
#

Does anyone know when the vehicles for YouTube comments will be given out?

nova solar
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You can see the pen error especialy on the heat
I dont know if war gaming is aware of this but i hope they fix it

forest jacinth
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@nova solar calibrated shells does not change the displayed characteristics of the shells iirc

nova solar
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Wdym it should increase pen as far i know and that is the main reason why im running calibr. shells

thick trout
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It changes the pen but it does not change what the game shows the pen is

nova solar
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No bit with 271mm of pen you should be able to pen a e100 unangled cheeks but no i cant pen it amd 271mm beats 250

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And this is while im face hugging the e100,i just cant pen the cheeks like i use to b4

regal zealot
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They did change the pen RNG from +/-15% to +/-5%

nova solar
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Yes

regal zealot
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So you get more consistent shots, but it’s still pretty tough to pen an E 100 with standard ap rounds on HTs, as the effective thickness increases from 250mm to 280mm with AP, to 288 with APCR and to 294mm with HEAT, accounting for normalization angles @nova solar

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If your tank is lower than the E 100, the angle on the flat plate becomes steeper, making it much harder to pen with regular rounds

nova solar
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You didnt get my point,remeber im not driving an is4,im driving a vk72.01k which is the same height as the e100. So if im on a flat surface and im facehugging the e100 and the e100 is not angling his turret i should with my 271mm to pen the e100 right there

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Im gona send the pics again to not get anybody confused

regal zealot
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271mm of pen is still not enough to punch through the turret of an E 100

solid gate
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I love the vk72.01k it’s a good tank to do upward angling and to face hug players if they are a smaller heavy

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But there’s also rng that involves with the pen as well

regal zealot
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The IS-4 has slightly better standard pen, yet it still cannot pen the E 100 reliably with standard rounds

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Even with CS

nova solar
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Look add (241+271)÷2you should be able to get the average of 271 but no ive gotten 258

solid gate
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Rng Jesus for yeah

nova solar
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Do the math

solid gate
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I mean your right on that but there are sometimes that the game decides to go against you

regal zealot
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That’s the range of values for the pen without CS... ofc it ends up as 258mm

nova solar
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Right but im equipping CS

regal zealot
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But the ammo box only indicates base pen numbers

nova solar
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If thats so then wg should it to show the pen of the CS and if thats not so than should pen an e100's unangled turret up close

regal zealot
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You’re not necessarily gonna pen the E 100’s turret reliably with an average of 271mm of pen tho.
You’ll need a minimum of 280 with AP for that to happen

pulsar sinew
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You can with 374 mm heat

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Which is what everyone does

solid gate
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I mean with the maus your able to pen it decently well up close but the maus I think is higher then the e100 idk

regal zealot
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Yes, that’s true, but he’s talking about AP pen @pulsar sinew

pulsar sinew
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You don’t shoot ap at it though

solid gate
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I do ._.

pulsar sinew
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Unless you’re super close and can hit the top bar

solid gate
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Or the turret ring

pulsar sinew
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Or are a td

solid gate
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Well a tall td

regal zealot
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That’s the thing. Only TDs can reliably pen the turret face with no qualms with regular rounds

nova solar
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Or the engine deck right in front of the turret

pulsar sinew
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See a German box? Switch to gold

solid gate
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The maus can hit that if it’s a little bit above the e100

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But see I think that soulution is kinda toxic it makes me mad at least

nova solar
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I guess youve won here but.wg should change it so that it shows the pen of the calibrated shells

regal zealot
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Funnily enough, never had problems penning the cheeks of Mauschens and Maus with CS AP rounds

pulsar sinew
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@solid gate how is it toxic?

nova solar
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True dat

regal zealot
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Angled however, they’re a real pain to deal with

solid gate
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Idk it just always made me upset so in my mind it’s just toxic in my head

pulsar sinew
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Oh

solid gate
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I mean it’s in the game for a reason if people want to use it that’s fine

pulsar sinew
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So you don’t like people being intelligent?

solid gate
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But if they don’t know where to shoot for weak points and switch to a round that has a higher pen then that’s them just using premium

pulsar sinew
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If I had a dollar for every time I shot a German tank with gold and they complained about it

nova solar
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The maus is more of xp pinata for my vk

solid gate
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But see that’s the thing I like challenges on trying to pen things without premium

nova solar
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Free dmg basically epecially if they dont have apcr

solid gate
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Maus can pen the vk cheeks pretty easily

pulsar sinew
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I like winning ¯_(ツ)_/¯

solid gate
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I like challenges lol

nova solar
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No thw cheeks are very troll on the vk,trust me

solid gate
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I have it I know what it can do

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There’s a weak point right under the mantle of the vk’s gun

nova solar
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Thats spaced armour of 120mm then the turret which is 200mm so youre not penning that

solid gate
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I’ve penned it

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I’m talking about under the mantle not at the mantle

nova solar
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Yeah but its very hard to aim there and you got.the troll engine deck

solid gate
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Unless your above it then it’s just an easy pen

nova solar
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And only 3 or 4 tanks at tier 10 are taller than vk (probably even more) but only those tank can take advantage of that

solid gate
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I play the maus a lot and the vk

simple fractal
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@dusty cave ¨

nova solar
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I play alot too (400 battles) and i know it so well as if it was my child

solid gate
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Now I just wanna 1v1 a vk now in a maus XD

nova solar
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What server you on?

solid gate
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Na

leaden galleon
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AKA: white trash lol

solid gate
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:/

nova solar
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Whats your ign? Mine is Emporor_Solux

solid gate
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It’s my discord name

leaden galleon
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Ahh chill, I’m NA too. We’re all noobs compared to RU

solid gate
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Just Lone_29

nova solar
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Nice maybe i can set up a training room

solid gate
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I have one set up

nova solar
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Right now?

solid gate
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It’s just called 1v1 and ye

nova solar
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Ok im going to their now

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There* (i hate slowmode)

solid gate
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Ye

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@nova solar want to get in a vc?

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The Charioteer a bit powerful.. The IS-7 armor like the tea bag for the Charioteer

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I tested!

tall mirage
#

so have they given the tanks

quasi mirage
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lol wat . Charioteer has garbage pen

tall mirage
#

The giveaway from yesterday's stream on wotb channel

solid gate
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@nova solar

lyric oriole
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Charioteer has good Penetration, the HESH is a bit low but oh well

lone forge
#

Why Wargaming nerfed the HESH shells from the Charioteer? :/

pulsar sinew
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Because they’re beyond broken

forest jacinth
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Has Wargaming given away the three tanks for best YouTube comments yet ? @solid gate

lyric oriole
#

Who knows, nothing is communicated much when it comes to events like these anymore

tall mirage
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it's half past 11 in minsk

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we 'll see

limber aurora
#

Question for anyone willing to answer should I save up for the AMX 13-90, the t69 or the waffle. I’m at 2 mill right now and just wanted another opinion

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Or I can get the charioteer

thick trout
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@limber aurora waffle waffle waffle waffle

limber aurora
#

So the t69?

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I’ll do the waffle

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Everyone I’ve asked has said the waffle

thick trout
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Waffle is an almost perfect tank

solid gate
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Waffle is worth it man

thick trout
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(yes i am a tiny bit biased)

limber aurora
#

I see no bias here

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How’s the grille? I’ve herd that the waffle is better

thick trout
#

Personally i would prefer to take a waffle into a tier 10 game

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It has an amazing gun and it can deflect HE with it as well but the camo and the traverse and the depression suck

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Well the depression is decent but onlyon the very edges of the guns traverse limit

naive kraken
#

KV 1 is getting nerfed?? now???? that took long, kind of too late in my opinion better just keep it as it is then

tall mirage
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Lol

scarlet nest
#

I like waffle but not my kind tank

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It's all about snipe tank. And it performs really good in that role but not my kind

tired smelt
#

How do I chage the camo or skin of my tanks now?

solid gate
#

IDK

woeful pumice
#

6.2 pz II looks horrible

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Clip size is 3 but with basically same reload

urban raven
#

i have a question when will the new gun for the AMX ELC BIS update

regal zealot
#

The 90mm’s not gonna happen

nova solar
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Nope nope nooe

ebon nacelle
#

Bruh Brit heavies are fun till you get to tier 2 in which you regret your decision to grind. This is fact

regal zealot
#

Hmm

ebon nacelle
#

Lol

honest fjord
#

Add tanks\APCs like the stagehound from the U.K

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Or make it an event considering it has wheels

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Any followers

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Also you should make one big map for a ratte event

dense blade
#

Is fv4005 hard to use? Or am i just trash at using it

plucky scarab
#

yes but thats why i love it

woeful pumice
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I just had a 1.8k game in my bt7 art and got first class

neon siren
#

I really don't know if i'm wrong, but in the wg live I think i see a buff on the french autoloader especially on the 50 100 and the 50 120...

regal zealot
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They just buffed them this patch @neon siren

brisk orbit
#

going to buy 30 1er prot soon how do I play it

livid wraith
#

like a somewhat armoued hull down baugutte

rigid thunder
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The only armour is your turret

shrewd basin
#

Wow bat chat t AP is op even with stock

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I love it

somber rampart
#

Yeah it is with stock gun sometimes

rotund heron
#

Opinions on the AMX 13 90?

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what modules should I upgrade first?

neat path
#

I am debating on weither to get the Amx 30 B or not. Is it worth all the money?

neon siren
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@regal zealot thank you!

thick trout
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@scarlet nest What? Waffle is definitely not best as a sniping tank. It works perfectly when you are really aggressive peeking on reloads and hitting from surprising places using your depression. It can work decently sniping but that is definitely not the best it can do (despite most of the playerbase still camping)

tall mirage
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@neat path nah the AMX 30 Ier prot is worth it, the amx 30b is worth 75 dollars, for a freaking tank! Ridiculous

neat path
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@tall mirage that's what I was thinking maybe if they lowered it down a bit i would get it. I am only hesitant cause of the price

tall mirage
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If u feel u have plenty of money

neat path
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Idk I still have time to think about it but probaly wont get if

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It*

tall mirage
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get the prot

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there's other meds in t10 better than 30b I find
and theyre tech tree tanks

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im geeying the prot 30b too expensive I'm only 15 lel

neat path
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@tall mirage tbh its a okay to good tank but the price is just wack

tall mirage
#

ye

chilly cargo
rigid thunder
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a bad tank

brisk orbit
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worse vk 100, you'll get more stuff by getting more gold and buying the 30B

valid lodge
raven jacinth
#

there's a dark mode for tank compare blitz stars?

valid lodge
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My internet browser is set to dark mode. That might be what made it dark mode for Blitz stars

tall mirage
#

Should I buy the new VK or the AMX 30 Ier Prot

solid gate
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Amx 30.
VK is a piece of crap.

tall mirage
#

k

limber dawn
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plz give AMX ELC BIS a better stock gun the stock gun now SUCS i seriusly bounced the side of a AT 2

solid gate
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Stock guns are supposed to be bad

limber dawn
#

this gun is seriusly worse of all stock guns

raven jacinth
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stock Leo 1 before stock gun and 57mm gun were removed

upbeat geode
solid gate
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But y'know that you need plan for rest of Light tank line, right?
Or perhaps you want this tank as premium?

upbeat geode
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premium

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it would be nice if we add this tank in game

solid gate
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Adding all of these tanks would bring kinda chaos.
Don't take me wrong, they're pretty nice but man, WG would broke them.

upbeat geode
#

ok

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hmm

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maybe this T-64 would be categorized as Medium

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since it's weight is only 38 tonnes

forest jacinth
#

T-64 would be ridiculously overpowered in this game considering its opposition

obsidian snow
#

T64 would have serious balancing issues

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If it is to be reflective on its realistic characteristics

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450mm on the turret

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450 all round ion the turret would destroy heavies

solid gate
#

@forest jacinth. Abbreviations count as cursing here. Please refrain.

forest jacinth
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Okie

solid gate
#

👍

raven jacinth
#

the fact that the Obj forgot number is a Submersible vehicle

solid gate
#

Like i said, WG would broke it.

forest jacinth
#

You mean the PT-76? 🤔

stoic sigil
#

helo

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bushka on blitz is gone

sweet hemlock
#

What do you mean gone?

silk mason
#

Then add Leo2A5 lol

elfin meadow
#

YouTube deleted bushkas pubg channel. Maybe they did his blitz one now?

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IT IS

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can we get a #RipBushka in the chat

cinder inlet
#

🤔

warm cradle
#

Wait why

zealous anchor
#

general discussion or we may get flopped

warm cradle
#

Right

solid gate
#

Ok, fix “The VK 168. 01 P,” so that it doesn’t take actual dmg every time you shoot it”s tracks. Also, improve hatch armor. That would make it balanced and way better.

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It’s.*

wary ferry
thick trout
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@solid gate im guessing you are someome who actually bought that tank?

dusky stone
#

German community manager?

fiery bear
#

New Vk isn’t that good

shrewd basalt
#

Lol Its Only VK 100.01P with different Turret Placement plus Weak Machinegun Port and Slow Rotation speed

solid gate
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hey if anyone has replays on the VK 168 i need some for a video

thick trout
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bUy It YoUrSeLf

solid gate
#

im poor

thick trout
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I think anoyone would be after buying the 168 🤣

solid gate
#

ikr

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😂

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Wg be like: gotta catch up with EA

valid lodge
#

Thought about buying it, but that price tag

lethal star
#

WG: releases OP monster premium
Community: goes absolutely wild
WG: releases balanced or even underwhelming tank
Community: lol why would I buy that

solid gate
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If there were no op premium tanks in the first place, they would sell out

astral glade
#

@shrewd basalt no... its just stock mauschen duplicate with the turret slightly front 😂

solid gate
#

Should i buy Amx CDC or JagTiger 8.8?

cunning oar
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Cdc

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In my opinion, 8.8 sucks

solid gate
#

Alright.

hollow moth
#

Who pay for buy VK 168.01 (P) is a little dumb
This vk is only a nerfed mauschen with a turret on the center

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A nerfed tier 9 for 15k gold

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War gaming, did you lost your imagination?

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(What about the prices? It's the exactly price of two Löwe, do you know every player isn't rich?)

solid gate
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@hollow moth Vk 168 is actually Vk 100 but with look of Mauschen.

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Also, it is tier VIII.

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(sorry for correcting u, it is kinda my fetish lol)

hollow moth
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Ok

solid gate
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Oh wait.

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Nvm.

hollow moth
#

But still a breeding with vk100 and mauschen, but you pay two Löwes

solid gate
#

It is not worth it indeed.

hollow moth
#

No imagination
No good price
No something almost all player base want
No cool

solid gate
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Only someone braindead would buy it or some collector.

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This is an awful tank.

hollow moth
#

Buying the full tank (17k gold) you pay 162,41 Reais (money in Brazil )

solid gate
hollow moth
#

A lunch in any snack bar cost 15 reais and the tank cost 162,41 reais

solid gate
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WG should at maxium place it at price of 8-9k of gold.

hollow moth
#

Maybe for tier X 12k gold is good

solid gate
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Yeah.

hollow moth
#

But pay more than 100 lunches for a tank it's not good

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If you eat only 2 times per day, you can live for almost two months with the price of VK 162.01 (P)

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You pay 2 months of food for buy a breeding of VK 100.01 (P) and mauschen

#

It's just super ultra mega not worth

solid gate
#

Yep.

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Worst tank thus far.

hollow moth
solid gate
#

Ik.

#

This tank is pretty paper.

hollow moth
#

Wait, never mind it probably will be another VK162.01 but with the Double of the price

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Or in a loot box 🤢

solid gate
#

Nah

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It Will be in tech tree.

hollow moth
#

But they are sending only the tier X pics

solid gate
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Cause this tank is out for tests.

hollow moth
#

Funiculi Funicula intensifies

solid gate
#

WG is working on rest of tree.

minor mica
#

Is the VK 168 P worth getting?

forest jacinth
#

Nope.

brisk badger
#

Get 30 1er proto

solid gate
#

Will that VK also have Mauerbrecher skin?

wary scroll
#

No, but I want the skin for mine

solid gate
#

New tank is no bueno

woeful pumice
#

It’s a c o o l e r AT7

tulip sail
#

That would be cool to play

solid gate
#

Yep

tulip sail
#

Could play it like the m3 lee

#

Ya know I actually want that ing now

hollow moth
#

In the battle of Berlin, one mauschen prototype blew up his turret and after the explosion the turret stopped in the middle of the tank, so Hanz said:
"I HAVE A GERMAN IDEA"
Hanz fixed the mauschen but made the turret stay at the middle so Hanz called it VK 162.01 (P)

rancid mauve
#

What are the differences between the new VK and 100.01 P??

hollow moth
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@rancid mauve the VK162.01 P it's a VK100.01 P but with mauschen hull

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And cost 15.000 gold (same price of two Löwe or four M10/Panther)

neat nimbus
hollow moth
#

It makes sense

static token
#

VK162.01 P looks like a German tog 2

hollow moth
#

No, TOG don't have armor and it's slower

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VK162.01 P look like a failed try to get more money breeding two german guys of the same teck tree

static token
#

I said look
look=/=is

hollow moth
#

Yep, but look more what i said

rancid mauve
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@hollow moth ah okay. Is there an increase in armour? Gun pen? Mobility? I’m not seeing the point in slapping on another tank’s hull to a different tank then trying to make money without significant differences. I’m not able to look up stats or anything so figured I’d get feedback here lol.

static token
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@rancid mauve meadsy69 released a vid on his channel about that tank

hollow moth
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The agility really don't look like good and i think it's worse than vk100 (cuz it's a maushen hull and turret), meeeeeh penetration (220mm), ultra big reload (16,30 seconds), good alpha (460 average dmg on AP), strong engine (but max speed is 20 km/h and average speed is the same), ok aim time (4.7 seconds)

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Ultra large hull, turret is strong (230, 160, 100 like mauschen cuz it's the same turret), hull is strong (180, 130, 100 like mauschen cuz it's the same hull)

rancid mauve
#

Okay so it’s a VK 100.01 P clone lol they have similar gun stats it sounds like 🤷🏻‍♂️

hollow moth
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Look like good cuz it's a buffed VK100 clone but go check the price

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Two Löwe's or two different tier 8 tanks or 3 different tier 7 tanks, or 4 M10/panther, or all tier 6 on the store or all tier 5 on the store or 8 400 000 credits or 240 days of premium account