#vehicles-discussion
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Anyone from WG ever read this channel ?
No
love t-54
lol LB-1
Does the chieftain/T95 have a chance of getting a buff to the huge and paper thin cupola, ala the M48 and E5?
@vale horizon why is it showing Conway as a premo?
He enriched it
Ah ok
the one with more dpm
Is Panther M10 a forgotten tank in blitz now? It is because it has poor armour and penertration right?
It basically just a Panther
it's a panther with less penetration and a sad turret
But premium and doesn't make good credits unless you keep damaging enemies multiple times if its great RoF
Compared to the T23E3 which I thino has better pen and same rof, I think the T23E3 is way better.
then you might as well play a T23E3 yeah
Just so happen I got it last week from a weekly chest
the E3 is just flat out better in most aspects, I got mine from the victory event
Im still keeping the Panther M10 cus it can be used as a flanker.
no point in selling prem tanks
The panther /m10 is kinda power crept
True. The gold I spent on the Panther M10 was from the collectable tanks I sold. 😅
I have my regrets and happiness using that Panther M10
I kinda want it for the historical reasons but it's a bit too meh as a tank and in a whole I feel meh about panthers
I think the Panther M10 is more for the experts who are deeply experienced using it.
It's a gook tank. When I play it I try to remember it's a med, even if a mini Tiger. Use its decent mobility and try to maximize its dpm potential by engaging early and often. Don't be the last survivor of your loser team, or you will die fast
Ok got it
Why is8 must be usless
Is the ac 1 worth it?
Do I buy any of the premium offers in shop right now? Like should I wait for something else or get chieftain
Any equipment setup tips for vk 30.01 p?
I'd honestly go for optics + gld
not worth it to put equipment on a tier 6
you won't be playing it for that long
Use the protos amazing depression and dpm and work the ridges while wiggling your turret to bait shots. You should find the tank works super well then @sleek lodge
tier7s can pen easily the front armor and front turret armor
i think wiggle wont work
@granite iris thanks
@sleek lodge Read what i said again, use your depression and you bounce pretty much everything
Is it just me or the sound of the defender tanks engine has been modified....its quite irritating
Can anyone else confirm it or is it only with my game
Yes they changed the engine noise
Did you not expect lightning noises?
When will the GuP tanks return?
I think... never
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im really done losing just because the enemy team has a Smasher!! those things literaly rule the tiers 7, its sooo unfair for other players, please do something about this.
Yeah Smasher is quiet op
A kv-2 but armored, with a good reload and better
Impenetrable extra armor
Better disp
Just play tier 8 and drive out the object 252u or wz120 and rekt the smashers, problem solved
That's what I do, you fight OP with OP, but a tier higher 😂 so much fun to see smasher drivers tears as I melt their face 😹 👌
Lol I just delete them in my char
Lol charioteer works too
I have fun with my rhm 🤣
Rhm is not good against smasher, it gets one shotted by HE
If it's spotted
Lol true
Smasher view range poopoo
I ment rhm against charioteer .
Yes but still, you can use better counters against the smasher than the borsig imho
Guys, why the aim time of T-34-2 and T-34-3 is 1 on Blitz stars and Blitz hangar and instead in game is 2.3 at minimum (with every possible provisions and equipments)?
Bug maybe?
WG said those tanks have the shortest aim time for their caliber, but then in game, while it's ok, it's not the value those site refer to
Can one of the big players report this to WG?
Is4 more pen ( i can feel the hate already )
Who plays IS 4 ?
@ebon tundra me lul sometimes/rarely
Angael already said : dont buy IS 4 😂
XD why tho ?
I'm new in this game and I'm wondering what are the best tanks to take?
@hollow gale There is No best Tank .
IT depends on ur playstyle , wich Tank you should go for
no special tanks to begin with?
KV 2 is famous , because he can onehit everything.
@solid gate It's because blitzhangar/blitzstars use the old aim time system (which is the same stat used on WoT PC). In a patch a couple years back WG changed the aim time display in the garage to a different formula that also takes gun handling into account in addition to aim time
If u Like fast firing guns Go for great britain.
Good armor : Germany
Allrounder : America
Fast Tanks : france ( to B-C 25 T) or other meds.
@hollow gale The Soviet IS-7 line is probably the best line for beginners, good enough armor to shrug off some mistakes, good enough mobility to not be horrifically boring, and big guns also make them easier to play
i went straight for IS-4
IS-4 isn't as good because the stock grinds are much, much worse than IS-7 line
STI stock is much worse
I went for the E100 and was suprised , when I saw , that all the other germans have the Same guns .
Yah, the Germans share a lot of guns with each other
agree.... sti stock is the worst thing ever
Btw.:
In the FV 4005 Line u get the best gun of the At 15 and of the tortoise for free .
That means u save nearly 100 XP If you grind for the FV 215b after the FV 4005
kewl
i just got challenger about an hour ago. anyone knows the reload of its 1st gun with full crew and equipaments?
U can see that in the Crew menu
@proven folio https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/
Compare World of Tanks: Blitz tanks. WOTB tank compare including equipment and provisions.
hmm ok
i would grind russians side by side because of shared guns for heavies
slightly lessens the stock grind on sti
@wise moth thanks for the explanation, it's all clear now
Do I buy the chieftain in store or t-34-3 or none? I have no gold right now.
what's in red?
if you're not selecting a different camo to equip, its going to show "remove" but if you do select a different camo to equip it will show "replace"
Someone answer my question above
The T-34-3 is a pretty good tank
The WT Pz.IV is pretty much on its own level by now
Maybe it's just you
Or then it's that T-54 turret and a 122 indistinguishable from the 100
They can just sit behind cover and not care about people shooting them
Especially when the 122 has that bs Chinese aimtime that T-44 apparently can't have
The T-44 has a better hull
Tho the T-34-2's gun aims like a laser and hits like a truck
Is the t-34-3 a good tank
And also T-34-2 with 122 gets DPM as well
Yes the T-34-3 is a good tank
Imagine a tog 2 defender with a 6 round 17-pounder
YES
Can anyone tell me what do you think and how is gameplay with the Cheftain/T95? Imo from the stats it's a quite solid med tank with the good gun penetration. Also I love his look. I'm thinking about saving gold for it or wait for something better. Even if then which medium tank premium would be better than Cheftain? Type 59? Panzer 58? I don't include heavy tanks neither meds with high alpha and low reloading guns. Thx for any advice
@solid gate the upcoming T26E5 Patriot
imo the type 59 is better. I own the Chieftain/T95 (bought it recently) and it has decent speed, upper hull protection, with good dpm, gun handling but low alpha dmg and lackluster pen for a HT. The turret is incredibly good, and you get 10 degrees of gun depression, but the cupola is gigantic and it's hard to hide, and is made of cardboard. I find myself going to where MTs usually go or playing ridgelines, since the pen while workable or not good enough to effectively deal with HTs, and the pathetic side/rear/lower plate armour means you're gonna get penetrated from everywhere. The Chieftain is more of a heavium, and it's by no means bad but I wouldn't call it as good as a tank like the Type 59
Yah that mini turret as thought is a big weakspot, but how about flanking? Personally I love flanking and attacking from behind with medium tanks, and looking for a premium that can do it. The last thing I want is fighting face2face with ht such as e75 or kv4 lol
I really hope they resell the Skorpion G soon
you'll be fine against KV-4s. It's the E75 that will crush your hopes
Lol yeah skorpion is very nice, have it on my PC account and love it
nooooo dont resell skorp
@eager eagle it's inevitable they will do it, the question is when
I'm hoping for reselling type 59 lol
the skorpion G is the best T8 TD on WoT PC, isn't it?
the WZ fake tank is still the best
Probably, for awhile wasn't playing it so dunno how it is rn
@rigid thunder dunno about PC, it's pretty good even there, it's all I know
the S1 is also decent
the WZ-120-1G-FT? Nah it's not as good.
I loved jgpanther 2 almost the same as skorpion
@rigid thunder yes. After that it is STRV S1
@olive sky sadly yes, but I am a sucker for big alpha guns, I have plenty of 120 and 122 mm armed vehicles, I need a premium 128 mm
It can bounce some and isn't as slow as ferdi lol
The ferdinand is garbage
@solid gate yeah, it's like the Skorpion minus the turret, but the turret is a big plus
The minus is that "turret" is open so any he means death to you
@rigid thunder it used to be good before the nerf, I did the Jagdtiger grinding in time before WG crushed Ferdie, luckily
If you're spotted in a Skorpion G or SU-130PM you can expect every single clicker to immediately turn your way
@solid gate not if you play smart, I am practicing with T-34-3 which has more or less the same playstyle
Jagtiger was my first t9 ever, rly liked it, also jg88 wasn't bad either
I'm scared of T-34-3 pen and ammo cost, not talking about the aiming time @solid gate
Tried wz-111 with the same gun and never again
the T-34-3 has no issues with its pen, you're never gonna head on any HTs anyways. The dispersion is good enough with refined gun and the aimtime is amazing. Most shots will either be for lightly armoured targets or the sides of tanks. 250 HEAT pen also allows you to basically pen almost everything
except the tracks
@solid gate it pens like a SU-122-44, not great, but it's terrible a big alpha vehicle with good mobility. So the Skorpion pen and alpha are a big move from T-34-3 and will make things even more easy, I will be more expert this way
wait, how in the world does a T-34-3 play like a TD
T-34-3 played as TD surely would do more than played as regular medium
it's a rideline fighter and should never be sitting at the back with a friendly borsig
@rigid thunder because you can't 1 Vs 1 in that tank, the minimum reload with all the dedicated provisions and rammer is 12.6 sec, but you can let team spot the enemies and support with the gun, using your ultra armored turret as protection. Find disleveled terrain to compensate the lack of gun depression and you're in for big time sniping
I have su-122-44, honestly after getting Rudy from the box from the event I rarely do play with it. It's gun depression was hard to me
Uhm, why does the AMX 50B have a much worse camo value than AMX 50 120? They are basically the same right?
I never snipe in a bush in the T-34-3, but I'm never straight up in the enemy's face, like a type 59 would be
@solid gate that's why you have to stay away from hills, use terrain depressions and use elevation of the gun
@rigid thunder I am always sniping in T-34-3 but changing position very often
I'm probably getting confused between my version of sniping and yours
@rigid thunder ok I am not outright sniping, if you're referring to the typical TD tactic, but with T-34-3 I simply don't face almost anyone 1 Vs 1 or frontally, even with teammates. I always wait until my target is engaged already and I flank it or more easily I do that from the distance if the opportunity presents itself, without moving the tank
15.06 is coming out new episode of GuP. Please give us this tank again
@thick trout i am already using depression on t28prot its not working
Is charioteer op?
Any recommendations on which starter tank I should get and why?
Wdym by starter
I've just installed the game
Uhh
Most people would say heavy tank
Like the German heavy line that leads to the e100
I meant the country. As all of them are probably light tanks at tier 1, yes?
Or the Russian is7/is4
Do u have any preferences
Like do u want to go fast, do u want to have an easy time, do u want to bounce shots
I would prefer to be slow and durable to being fast and vulnerable
I suggest the German heavy lines
Only knowledge of this game I have is from a few YouTube videos
I see just ask anything u want from me or anyone else
Is there a particular line that has a less than average learning curve?
I mean like heavy, medium or lights etc.
Yes that’s the Russians tanks on general
So, a Russian heavy would the the perfect starter line?
I suppose so
But they have really poor guns
As in it’s hard to hit targets but u hit hard in exchange
'Hits good but can't penetrate' or 'Low damage, can penetrate'?
Pretty good pen, lot of damage per hit, sometimes the shots go nowhere
Low accuracy then.
Consider me a AP shell player and not a HE one
Hmmm
You should consider watching not only WoTB videos, but ones from WoT PC as well. The content is much more varied on wot pc and more often than not the knowledge is able to be carried over
Not really at least I don’t think so
Excuse my unending questions, I just want to settle on a good line so that I don't want to waste my time grinding for tanks that are average-below average
There are tanks that are in meta right now, for tier 10 there are a few good ones
Tier 7-8 is messed up
For heavily armoured ones the IS-4 is the best, it has a good balance of what a heavy tank needs. The maus is also a good tank, but it takes skill to play well
Don’t play the maus if u just starting
When going down the IS-4 line it's advised to go down the IS-7 line first, and at least unlock the BL-9 on the IS-3
Yea actually
I am very very new to all of this
idk I learned most of what I know from WoT PC
U started from pc?
While the tank is noob friendly it is by no means good. Also the T-10 (known as the IS-8 here) requires quite a bit of skill to play
Interesting, but didn't he say IS-4 was the better tank?
At least fully upgrade the IS-3 before embarking on the IS-4 line
the KV-3 and KV-4 have very similar and simple playstyles, but they require good knowledge of armour angling. Also both tanks are mediocre at best.
the KV-2 doesn't need a description, while the ST-I when with top modules is a really good tank
Kv4 is going to be a horrible stock grind, but it’ll turn into a great sidescrape
Oh yes, I know about the KV-2
who doesn't
Play the su152 instead of a kv2 for derp fun
Well, I didn't know about this game until a week ago, so yeah
I found this game by accident lol
Okay then, Russian tanks it is, thanks for the help
Yea
Ok is the charioteer op guys
I played and atm I think it’s just a really strong tank
It still doesn’t have any armor and it can be quickly killed
It also has a tier 10 gun for a reason
Is there a point in keeping my tier 1 tank after advancing to tier 2?
no, not really.
Would you have answered me differently if, say, I said tier 5 and 6 in my question?
Depends on your current credit situation and if you like the tier 5 in question
crusader would like to introduce itself
@steel oriole. I wouldn't keep a tier 1. As you advance you may find tanks you enjoy and want to keep. Personally I've got rid of everything below tier IV. I've got one tier IV, two tier V's, and it goes up from there.
Tier 5 isn’t that fun for me
I still have the Panzer II from pre-5.5 in my garage, haven't bothered to sell it after it got kicked down a tier
Tier 6 and up is where it really starts for me
I kept my M3 Lee and there is no way I'd sell my Angry Connor or my M4.
I kept all my premiums no matter what tier
Oh, so that's why, thanks for the heads up, SD
I sold nearly everything that became a collector
For the gold?
Wish I had it
I’m stuck with my mbt
Btw y no one discussing charioteer with me
I want to know what y’all think
OH FV205 is a lot fun:p
It's tilting into the side of "OP" imo, absolutely deadly in the hands of a good player.
Not including hesh
You can smell the tea and crumpets
Premium black prince?
a black prince with decent mobility
it kick ass lol
I’d play something with more alpha
at least this tank isn't garbage like it is on wot pc
good armer fast reload all other premium tanks i got on offer most of them need to play hide fire hid
i play on pc
t-34-3 and 121b are totally crap long reload no armer wast of money paying for it
You're probably just playing both of those tanks wrong....
I disagree completely
maybe but i dont like hide just fight :p
no wonder...
Do u only play the fv?
not real i play on all
also the 121b has good armour, the turret is strong and the hull is one of the better Soviet hulls at tier 10
lol if u face fv 3 shots rip 121b
fv? Which one
fv4005
oh lol
lol if it come in fron what should i do run:p
just only expose your turret, no point using HE since you will actually deal less dmg
if it rushes you then you've clearly put yourself in a bad position and it's all on you
is not fun hide all time
In what situation is an fv4005 Gona come in front of u
The 121b and T-34-3 don't require you to hide all the time, you can take a relatively forward position as long as it allows you to stay hull down
You can push forwards as long as your team exists
well idk about the 121b since I don't own it, but I do own the T-34-3
t34-4 i dont like it is slow long reload for t-8
It does but u have great aim time
alos it make my game a lot of lag
I find it more fun than the type 59 because of the amazing aim time and big alpha damage (although my type 59 performs better because it is a better tank)
yes 59 is much better
also t-54mod is nice one worth every penny
the 59 is amazing
The gun has mediocre accuracy to me
The gun handles well enough, very strong turret for a MT and hull can block shots well enough
i was thinking to scrap t-34-4
Guys what's the deferent between type 58 & T-34-85 🤔
I’d play a T34 at tier 8
i give 1 more chance
At least that thing won’t struggle penning
t34 is not bad
The type 58 gets
a) An extra cupola
b) Worse gun depression
c) Worse pen
d)Better reload
e) 1km/h higher top speed
f) a worse hp/t ratio
It gets more dpm hey
What's the deferent between IS & IS2
is not bad it could be better :p
which IS-2? The IS-2 1945 or the Chinese one
Chinese
ehhhhh
@solid gate pretty much the same then it only looks different
It got heat instand of apcr
is 2 love it good armour
Does it really? I never struggle fighting one
The tank at the end of the is2 I heard is pretty good
Chinese tanks are upgraded Russian tanks , that's it
No
@rigid thunder I ment from tier 1 to 5
the Chinese IS-2 is pretty garbage
Copycats more like
No it is not
they take long to upgrade
0.435 dispersion is utterly horrific
What's more it's slower and the hull armour is not much of an improvement, 90mm angled plate
That's with vstabs and GLD, and yes it is
way the game is so lag after update
The IS-2 (1945) is the best IS tank at tier 7, strong upper plate armour with a better aim time than the tech tree IS
IS2 is more faster than normal IS and it got HEAT instand of APCR
it's not faster lmao it has a worse HP/T ratio
Faster with 1k/h
Is2 1945 is sexy af I wish I had it
i dont see much different from is2 and is2 1945 i think both same ,only looks different
At least their stuart got a Russian cannon
the IS-2 1945 has better dispersion, better aim time, better hull armour, better speed
And it looks better
@grave inlet i am not using as wg if i can send to u
I really like my IS-2 1945, gambled for it during the victory event from 11 crates. It's a really solid tier 7 HT
What?
is2 1945
How can u send me a tank?
It was probably a joke
by DHL :p
Oh
we should have exchange market
We had a gift market
will be nice swapping tanks playing same tank all time it gets boring
Hmm that’s probably a good idea if implemented well
Imagine an economy of tank trading, what would that even look like
I don't think wargaming's ever gonna be able to pull that off. At most maybe the tank trade-in event that WoT PC has sometimes
Wot pc has black market 0-0
also they remove gift we had before
That was a one time thing
the black market event is probably the most generous wargaming's ever gonna be
exchange tanks will be nice so players can exchange or rent
i was off 1 year from game i could rent all my tanks
have fun guys i am off byee
Wtf bug let that happen
tier 1 in tier 3/4 game wtf
training room
T3/4? Thats T3/6
I'm going to say it's a custom Battle
Definitely a training room
I mean there's only 1 enemy tank, and that tank is a mauschen
Which path should I go towards tier X tank destroyers or x heavies
Depends on the tech tree
American line
huh. They're all pretty good, depends on your playstyle. The TDs are much slower and heavily armoured while the HTs get better mobility
Because I have my tier VI TD researched but not boughten and I just thought the t1 heavy
Not sure which I would like to grind, which is the better TD turreted or non turreted in terms of damage and armor
non-turreted
The king tiger is at tier 8
Well, the damage is the same, The T110E3 gets much stronger protection and better gun handling(?) <- idk this, just basing off my memory off WoT PC
Ok maybe I’ll just grind both at the same time
@jagged summit the American Tier 10 td of choice is the E3. You could say it’s a bit OP atm
Hey guys, what's your opinion on the best premium tanks to buy? Are any tier 10 premiums worth waiting for?
@left anvil do you suspect a nerf coming within the next week and a half or so? I
Tips for IS-7 anyone? DM me if needed
@jagged summit no. I think it will stay as is
@left anvil good to know right know I have a t6 TD researched but not bought caused I bought the T1 heavy so maybe I’ll go the other route
@empty lake go hulldown constantly or deal with a hug
What are equipments? Are they like consumables?
Because they seem rather expensive.
Hug? @plucky summit
I don't think any of the tier 10 will be nerfed at the moment as all of them have almost win rates within 3-4%
Should I sell Cromwell b
@empty lake you basically ram someone and prevent them from shooting your lower glacis plate by being right in front of them
Never sell a prem, also CromB are one of the best tier 6 Premium medium
Is it worth waiting for a tier 10 premium to be available?
yup. For example - the cheiftain mark 6 was sold in crates. Then, like 3 months later it was sold for 12.5k gold for the legendary camo, the tank, and equipment. Same with all the other crate tanks. @keen juniper
I didn't want to end up buying the cheiftain and T 34 3
Without knowing what the best choice was
the t34-3 is more versatile while the cheiftain has a special niche with its speed and insane view range
Is there any specific tier 10 to wait for? Or just buy one that fits my play style
wait for te amx 30b? I don't know your playstyle 🤷
Isn't amx 30b not a prem tank
it's a collectible but still a purchaseable t10
I'll just wait to see the shop lineup I guess
@keen juniper both have meh type feeling t34-3 is just a copy paste of t34-2 so wouldn't recommend buying that because t34-2 is better
And cheiftain?
pretty good turret armor when you realize most people miss the fat cupola (be sure to move around a lot) and so it becomes a good ridge fighter with good spotting capacity at 300m
Everyone says to not get the 59 Patton, is it that bad
no, 59 patton isn't that bad
Why is 50 120 so incredibly bad?
It's huge, has no armour, takes 3 million years to aim, has garbage for gun handling and isn't even fast
And the only good gun costs an arm and a leg
so the others only cost an ear er somethin?
Yes, tracks and engine are 25k while gun is 60k
its the fastest Tier IX heavy
IS-8 feels faster
huh....i thought it waz the line to the batchatillion....
least amx has better camo tho
Uh, it has worse camo
oh crap i didnt see the top._.
IS-8 has better armour, better gun, better camo, about same mobility
eh, true
50 120 has the worst stock grind I've experienced for a while
BL-9 is several times better then the 100mm autoloader
all the guns are bad stock when youve hadda taste of how maxed gun feels like
Actually no, I enjoy Tiger II's 88
You haven’t seen the stock grind of KV-3, Leo PT A, T28 Prot. XD
KV-3 stock grind wasn't that bad
Why and how does T-34-3 carry 90 rounds of 122mm ammo?
Lol I've got no clue, you literally can't fire every shell so
Any premiums worth waiting for to buy
i’ve heard rumours the Skorpion G is due for release soon.
are there any Turkish people
No
Got it
It's a cromwell that ate too many burgers and is now trying to cosplay a churchill
50 120 is epic
poor t-34-85
what to buy; t54ltwt or centurion 1?
hmmm stock ltwt or a stock cent...
both are maxed already
not much xd
better than grinding a simple brit tank where u just dpm a guy to death and then drive around the entire map just wondering if you get to ever shoot ur gun again
hmmm
people have trouble shooting fast tanks 😉
i dont
call
Umm
Rares(LUCA)#4212 was muted
I think we need a moderator here.
I got Excelsior the last Black Friday event, with half the original price, the extremely low pen makes it hard to play with AP, but if you don't use many APCR, the low cost of the standard ammo will make you a ton of credits, plus if you play hulldown, also with the turret put transversally,you can do many easy shots. The only thing that disappoints me in this tank is the aim time circle, so big for a 75 mm, I have to use equipments to reduce it a bit. It's a fun tank anyway
Shoots Foch 155 weakspot
Nothing
Does it again
Still nothing
Shoots it again
Pens
Okay wat?
Foch and Foch 155 optics on the tank roof are so troll, I got so many sad bounces that now, when I see one of them, I simply flank them and don't waste time and ammo. Seriously, I hope they eventually will get fixed in next updates
way game is so lag
Bad device
From my experience the was how Rng seems to work
Its better to shoot the optics on Foch's when ur shooting down on it but then the whole tank is pennable
I'm also more successful if I shoot the center of the optic, but if it is angled backwards/ away from u I shoot the lower plate
Is the Phanter/M10 good as Credit maker on tier 7 ?
How to play M48 Patton?
hulldown
Does anyone know if the Churchill 3 still has an xp multiplier?
I wonder if it's good to grind free xp in.
should i develop the engine or the torret
Turret @neat nimbus
@neat nimbus engine because both turrets are pretty strong
engine ^^
tank is gonna be super slow without it, and the stock turret basically the same thing as the max one
^
Can you guys add a Legendary camp for “The Jg app E100 plz?
I think you could do “The Red Baron Camouflage.” It would be fully red with an Iron across on both sides, the top, and the back.
Iron cross.*
Iron cross.*
That would be pretty cool
nice name but gigan is better
When the badger put on for sale??
idk, might be sold during the wotb's 5th anniversary event
No one know any informatuon about time to sale badger??
@grave trench its an event tank. it’ll come into the Shop every once in a while but its not for sale at the moment
fan of GuP?
=3= thank you
Against good player tanks like the obj263 and Foch are useless, but against the majority of the player base they are one of the hardest tanks to deal with for inexperienced player
Is badger gonna come out as a crate or sale with gold ?
@grave trench you just read my mind
@calm inlet do you have to pay for the Pz. IV Anko SP with gold or money?
if it comes back
The last time it was released you could earn it for free or unlock it with gold. There is no telling how, if, or when it'll be released again.
😖
It was a collab event between GuP and WoT Blitz. Since most of the GuP tanks no longer have the premium vehicle status and turned into collectables. Chances are you will never be able to get it in the future unless GuP made another collab with WoT Blitz to advertise another new GuP game.
@solid gate mmmm they sold it once after iirc and I bought it then
GuP is an anime show
@brisk badger I don't recall that. Then again I had already got them for free and honestly have no interest in GUP so I wasost likely not paying attention.
I enjoyed myself but probably wasn't worth the solid $30 I paid
Another tier VIII - wow
*2 more
I dont know anything about gup but i do love free promo tank from event(well its not promo anymore duh)
@scarlet nest You still have the VK30.02M? You have my respect.
Why the original Panzer IV lack the hull side skirt?
Is not premium, that's why
🤦
Same
I'm gonna free xp turret, what about 122mm gun? is it worth it?
No
Definitely not
Should I buy the Chieftain or the IS-6?
The IS-6 is kinda powercreeped
The cheiftan as well, by the Caenarvon and the 105mm/90mm t32 (if there is a 90mm gun on the t32
I think the chieftain is a better buy than the IS-6
but at that price you should buy a lowe
I bought the chieftain, and from my 41 games it's pretty good
or T34, easy
But the Lowe is probably a better buy, it makes more credits and is more competitive
the chieftain isnt much of a laughing stock anymore, now its a speedier caernarvon but with garbage side armor
the main role of an IS-6 nowadays is to roll up to a heavy spot and get blasted by defenders, 252Us and even IS-5s
but buy the lowe if you don't already have it
I would have bought most of the collectors tanks if I had enough credits at the time to afford them.
@solid gate When will I be able to purchase collectors tanks with credits again?
I have no clue. I don't work for Wargaming
Ok
Lowe is totally worth it
@tulip sail GIGAN IS NOT BETTER!!!
Would I rather go for the ISU-152 or the Borsig? I am not really sure
@solid gate
Completely better and we should probably move to #off-topic-discussion
@solid gate what got nerfed on the Borsig then, and when?
Um I wouldn't know but if I had to guess probably accuracy
Borsig is better with stock gun, and then it become a slow skorpion with worse dpm
I had to grind with that gun because my Borsig was just stock. But I think I like the big gun more. Just 'cause of the 640 alpha, and the fact that the dpn is a little but better. But the pen is way worse @thick trout
I prefer the laser accuracy of borsig, works better with its camo for sniping and also turret for snapshots despite the pen being a bit over the top. I would rather use the ISU if I wanted to play with high alpha because of its dpm and I think better accuracy (haven't played borsig with 150 in a while so dont quote me)
The big alpha is what makes the borsig scary, and in a paper tank, you don’t want to be peeking a whole lot.
So the better tier 10 in the lines is the 268. But the Grille line has the WT which is considered a bit OP. And the Grille in capable hands is good tank.
Guy i fighted a little with da 268 and i think da 703 better
The armor is so weak for a heavy tank chassi and the agility... yes, it look like a heavy in agility point
The 268 have only cannon
@wraith breach thats when you need to position where you dont take hits or watch reloads. Also you have people who cant seen your gun and so think you have the big gun and are intimidated
I'm only using Soviet tonks
So you need to find little dips in the ground or gentle hills you can slightly back down on after shots. This makes 268 a auto bounce. Also the speed is much better. The gun is at least twice better then 704
And the bt-7 has invincible front armor when it hits 85 health for some reasone
^^ sounds more like invisible armor that is non existent
Nope
@acoustic night watch the language
@left anvil before it i need 6.1 million again 😂 😂
why 6.1 mil?
It's a tier 10 price
you don't have the clan discount?
First I'm warned for being religes and now I'm warned for causeing
Make up you're mind's admins
Ouch. That tank is actually the very best td in the game. I highly recommend owning it. It has the best balance of all tds
If you can't abide by them you are free to leave.
I rather be fixing the amount of grammar mistakes in those sentences
wait which td...
@night citrus actually my clan don't search the tier 10 box, i changed the clan for get the is-5 and come to vtntv again
268
oh ic
i like the 268 its a good tank with pretty good armor for poking
can't really trust the chances of hitting stuff at a far range tho
Nope, i don't think the armor is good
if you haven't tried side scraping or charging directly at a enemy tank then idk what you've been doing
Yup. And I can understand why he didn’t think it was very good. 268 was my first tier 10. I had no clue how gun depression worked and did badly in it. After 16000 games I rarely have under 3k dmg in it now
Hummm cool
its best to experiment with the tank with different playstyles if you have trouble knowing how you should properly play the tank
try getting it to 100% crew first
Oh. And remember that the 268 can snapshot like a bozz. Try it when you think u can get away with it and u will be surprised by how well it hits em
Yeaah, i leaved it with with 77% crew
that's why u keep missing
🤦♂️
Well duh. Sounds like the winning idea for every tank in the game
Ohhhh
: /
I really love russian TD's with big alpha
SU-100y, SU and ISU-152, SU-122-44, i loved the obj-703 but the my average dmg is not so good but i liked it, the 268 is a black sheep in a lettuce farm
I really have to buy 268 again and try to play again
Guys the bt-7 is amazing when it hits 95 health or below EVAN against tier 4 tanks unless they are TD tanks
And is incredible when his turret explode
Look like a soccer ball
Perfect for mini games in training rooms
ah that's a rip
T-62A play style - same as the T-54, or is there something different I should watch out for?
Idk, i just think the most of the Russian medium tanks boring
But rudy... hoooooo the rudy
The rudy is cyberpunk and have a dog
It have a *#$@$!% (cursed word) dog inside it
Make t71 faster please
I'm is bear hitting 65
Make it's dream come true of drifting
Yer
But Rudy is med tank
Lol
The T71 is only a simples guy with autoloader
Have both the chaffee and t37 and I prefer the t37
Ok
IS 4 armour needs buff and we need the Russia back turreted tank to counter both UK TD and German super heavy tank we need obj. 705A line
“The Jg Pz E100,” is really well balanced to me. They’ve done a great job with it.
Also “The Obj. 268,” needs slightly more pen I think.
Imma just drop this question since its been buggin me for a while
Obj. 140 or T-62A and why
Everybody is gona say obj 140 for obviously bias and nostalgia 😂 they can't think.
How is it bias if both are russian tanks
Obj 140 has a much weaker turret then the T62a, however. It had a stronger hull. 140s a little bit more mobile and has better cammo values
It's bias because 140 used to be OP in the past, untill it got nerfed, along with the other meds.
People still say the 140s better only because it used to be op in the past.
Anyway, the T62as gun is way better then the 140s. Better pen,aim time, accuracy, etc.
Also 140 has a extra degree of gun depression; 6 compared to the 5 on T62A
Which is better?. Blackprince or tiger 1?
Black Prince
🤔
True
Tiger - as you can get somewhere to influence the battle
No need when you can clean whoever arrives after killing your teammates 😎
Tips for Leopard tier V?
M41 90, Charioteer, FV 4202, Cent 7/1, T49, RU251, FV4004, Conqueror, FV215b 183, FV215b
@zinc condor I think that's all, probably a couple more tho
How to use the Crusader?
How to overcome its subpar damage, aiming time and mobility?
crusader and subpar shouldn’t even be in the same sentence
45 games and a 77% WR
it’s amazing
power creep
Nope, crusader is considered one of the good tier Vs now, fast ROF and mobility
what is the best tech tree tank, I-V?
Crusader or M4
Kv1 probably
Anyone think the kpfpz70 with a 0.5 second reload buff and 5 mph top speed buff would be perfect?
Maybe a 740alpha HE shell
Yesss, it could use an HE buff! Just buff the HE to 800dmg and be done... speed is fine IMHO, it is exactly as fast as an IS8, which is one of the fastest heavies- DPM buff would also be nice
Agreed on every thing just said about Kpfpz 70, just reduce also the low rolls please, I am tired of doing less damage than a 128 mm gun
What is your opinion about the Chi Nu Kai?
its just a chi nu with better credit coeffifcent and a special camo
It has better DPM but is incredibly slow
Put the Ke-Ni Otsu for sale. #Changemymind
Put the chi-nu-kai for sale
Put Shinobi on sale
Put the Smasher on sale after a healthy buff.
@weak oak truebut similarly it doesn't have the spaced armour of an is8 or the tough nose of an e75 etc so maybe an extra 5kmph top speed would help.to overcome zees issues
The dpm of Kpf70 needs buff ....it is not armoured tank with poor pen and alpha damage is big but low rolls most of the time.....HE alpha needs to be buffed same as T49(760)....640 is the way to low
put historical 69kmh on the KpfPz 70 to compensate its horrible dpm and alpha(seriously, 5xx dmg on 152mm gun??) lol
Well, historical Kpz70 is the one in War Thunder 😂
Historical KpfPz would have had a driver with motion sickness, a guided missile that didn't work, and a autoloading cannon that failed when it was humid out.
I think our KpfPz is fine
In real life it had -10 gun depression thanks to its tilting hydropneumatic suspension, had an autoloader with 6-7 seconds reload time (which would give it 5600dpm), and it had a 1500HP engine, which made it much faster than even a light tank such as the Ru251, and also both it's hull and turret had 3 part spaced armor which would make it immune to all HEAT shells in the game, and a hard pen for the most powerful TD rounds if not shooting lowet plate, and the actual shells it had had penetrations values of: 152MM APFSDS- ~350MM, 152MM HEAT - ~500MM
So if we had the historical Kpz70, it would be a tier 13 tank
If we had a historical KpfPz it wouldn't work.
@solid gate well you are also kinda right 😂
Actually they later ironed out those issues didnt they? I mean they poured so many resources into the project?!?
It was cancelled for a reason.
AFAIK it was because of the US and German army having different requirements, not because it was a bad tank
The Shillelagh gun / missile system never really worked right.
The driver being offset in the turret led to disorientation and motion sickness
So then they developed their own tanks.. Yes but the rheinmetall 120mm was just around the corner, so they could have fit that to it easily
The remote 20mm cannon never worked right
Yes that sucked for the driver
Um if they really have putted out these missiles what shells would it be?
It would be like the T49ATGM shells but waaaay way more gnarly pen
The tank had a lot of good ideas that went on to other tanks...but it also had a lot of issues that basically killed it.
Uhh how bout the Sheridan meanwhile?
The Sheridan had a whole host of issues.
This server sucks Im out bye
Bye
I simply wish it wasn't just a T49 derp with 10 sec reload
As a idea the Sheridan was great... The execution of that idea was lacking.
looks at T49 hope it won't end up like this
Help me,why obj 140 cost 280k xp is more then jgpz e 100 i dont understand
How to play M48?
I would enjoy for them to put m4/fl10 for sale
@glass otter hull down....use gun dep has very good turret but you need to move regularly as cheeks are pennable the hull armour is also not to shabby but play hull down
160 in tier 8??? wg??? really?!?
I sold my wz and my crom for T49, thinking it was still op. what do i get? 160 pen in tier 8!
now im poor and with a tank that consumes credits, gg wg, i really dont know why you guys nerfed most of the tanks penetration
i cant even penetrate a front of an indien panzer......... only on low plate..... pls fix T49
ya my dude. You should be driveing around like a headless chicken and HEing soft targets in the reareo @proven folio
Its more effective then u would ever believe. The confusion u creat many times wins ur team the game
@proven folio. I highly recommend you do more research before making another decision like that. Anybody here could have told you that the t49 is one of the worst tanks for making credits
@solid gate it was... If the penetration didn't got nerfed. I can't even penetrate a T54 ltwt front but before the update I could because I ahd the tank before the 6.0 update. Now it's a HUGE waste
Sorry phone autospell has a different mind
Nothing changed on the T49 with 6.0
Really? THen why before the update I could penetrate a Indien panzer front but now I can't?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'm just gonna sell it tomorrow... Thx anyways
The tank didn't change in 6.0. It hasn't been changed since the original Nerf
... now i realize how stupid i was lol
the rng changed so now T49 pen and every other tank pen also changed.....
T49 has mobility so you can flank and not fight someone head on trying to pen there lower plate and complaining
lel probelm is that one battle i was alone against a full HP vk 100..... engine was ded, i was one shot, he sniped me when it was 1 sec for the engine to start working
but thats normal i guess
pretty normal actually
What tank do you guys recommend to get Rasanini Medals
Calibrated shells and lol pen with heat rounds
@solid gate Spartacus be nice! Lol
Rammer and refined gun. The T-62 already has the best gun handling and shell velocity in the game
I run with calibrated shells over the rammer. 330 heat pen is hard to argue against @ebon lintel
I won a brawl a day or so against a pretty good player in a E-50m in my 62a. I was able to face hug him and lol pen his upper plate with heat while he bounced shots off my turret. I'd have been toast if I'd been running the rammer.
True, but I do love me some extra DPM
What's the point of DPM if your shots bounce.
On a different subject it's good to see more III in here. I need all the help I can get
Dam straight!
Btw.;
What about the pz. 4 H and the jgd pz 4 H as Premium Tanks u can win in an Event ?
(Those are the Same Tanks , bur with spaced Armor on the sides )
What’s the best ammo setup for Is5?
@ebon tundra yeah, like the Stug IV H, why not can buy it in a personal access tier 6 or 7?
There is a lot of good tanks but they aren't in the game
A lot of tanks with different model
What is the best Tier 8 Heavy for Money making? 🤔
Lowe
@fringe lily Löwe is the most popular, IS-6 have the russian bias and T34 have a impenetrable turret with a very good cannon (but hull armor is bad, very bad)
But lowe still the best option for money making
Lowe is cheap and makes money. Is6 is terrible in the current meta, t34 is fun but relies on going hulldown. Obj 252u and wz 112-12 are expensive but are the best imo
Premium Tier 8 heavies that are for limited time, all good ones costs over 12k Gold?
That one AMX heavy tank was fantastic: AMX M4 mle. 49
that price sounds like Wot PC which is unfair
Is there a way that is similar to tanks.gg to check the Tank's armor and be able to compare it's status?
Yes, blitzstars
@fringe lily https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/
Compare World of Tanks: Blitz tanks. WOTB tank compare including equipment and provisions.
Guy, just buy Löwe, do hull out and move just a little bit for block shoots in the weak point
👌
ty
@hallow briar Is there an easy way to type Umlauts for words? Or do I need a German keyboard?
Guy I'm typing in my cell phone ; )
Ah lucky you
asci code 129 so alt + 129 gets you ü
and alt + 154 Ü
doh alt + 148 = ö and alt +153 = Ö
T32 is3 or kv4?
T32 is meh, kv4 used to be amazing with an extra 50 hp before nerf, and is3 is still pretty fun with that bl-9
50 extra HP doesn’t make a tank amazing xD
it could get u an extra chance of killing the enemy tank and staying alive
Could, but then again KV-4 needs better turret parameter for sidescraping
You have to use it like a Maus but even then you can’t fight high-end penners like Lowe, T34, and TDs
idk about now with the addition of so many tanks, I had the kv4 when only the german lights were introduced
I dont like KV4 design by the way
its too boxy?
t32 is meh, kv4 is boring as all hell, is3 is good
The KV-4 is slow and can be circled easily plus the torrent is huge
A interesting point I wanna make. On the t62a if you run CS you only loss .6 or so on reload. It hardly affects your dpm much
Can you guys tell me what the role of the mt 25
Is it worth to buy the 8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger?
What equipment should I run on the charioteer I like slowing down a little, shooting then running away
I run this @vivid lagoon
Hmm ok I was thinking the same
id swap the bottom right one and change vert stab to refined gun
@solid gate it's basically a light tank
I really like to use it in realistic battles because its fast and it has got a nice burst damage
I want my speed boosts to last and my Reload boost
the equipment should be different for other tanks though
id want to be able to use them more often, do you really need a speed boost for that long?
Crate tank... I should have known. Not for me, wallet this time stays firmly closed
@thorn moon lol at least you got the bloody thing
What are these things?
New tanks
When?
they just got put up for sale
Today, from crates, 3.5% chance of dropping
In crates, of course. 10 SGD for one with a 3.5% chance
Thx
Can we give the Sherman Jumbo an average alpha of 180?
I have a bad history with crates 😭
Also, why would I buy a Collectors tank that can get nerfed at anytime? Seeing as this is the current meta: Premiums > Tech Tree > Collectors
@worldly umbra more like firefly should get 180 alpha
Give them both 180 alpha.
Jumbo already has the troll frontal armor
The firefly has that hard hitting 17pdr... But it doesn't really do it justice with 160 alpha
And that justifies 180 alpha because?
When everything else has better dpm, what do you think?
@vivid lagoon When can I rebuy my VK 30.02(M)
Get it from WG support... Using gold
After 1 years since last refund
WG support?
I wouldn't get it back
@vivid lagoon Explain.
For?
Go to (server).wargaming.net
Scroll to the bottom
Look for customer service
What next?
https://asia.wargaming.net/support/en/?utm_source=global-nav&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=premium-shop try this... U'll need to change it to ur server
If you have any questions or are experiencing issues with any of our games, welcome to Player Support!
Even if I didn’t have it unlocked at the time?
No
Explain this conundrum
If u had not played it before u can't get it...
@vivid lagoon I have played it. Took me a moment to find it.
@vivid lagoon So, what would I say in customer support?
Should IS-4 use the 4% more armour to hull and turret, or more hit points
armour by a mile. Its trollish armor and that extra 4% is quite useful
Alright I’ll do that
So I can ask WG to give me a couple of collectors back in exchange for double amount of gold I sold them for?
I'd like to reuse my BT-7 art and the Scavenger, also M3 Lee, at the time I needed gold for buying my loved Kpfpz 70
Who would agree that most td are for city maps
Turreted TDs maybe, non turreted have some trouble unless they camp, because of the streets
How different is the playstyle between the lorraine and the t69? Close or completly different?
Is5 I should do the 4% amour not health right? I’m running it with amour at the moment
I used enhanced armour to make the armour more trolly
@worldly umbra sorry I went to sleep... Find the in game goods section... Then premium vehicle restoration and you should be able to enter ur request there
@solid gate no u can get collectors back for the same amount of gold u sold them for
1 a year
That too
Is. E100 line good?
Yes
then let's yeet and yeet again
hello friend are you interested if wargaming add m551 tanks to tier ix America light tanks?
in my opinion America needs a light tank in Tier 9
No
They would have to make a light/med tier X if that will happen, we don’t need another tier IX that’ll lead to the M48 and stuff
More predictable armor use, it’s pretty nice
Dont so this .
If krates get popular , WoT Blitz Turns into a Tank Casino 🤮
@valid quartz lol ok so you see, um it's not in minsk anymore
Anyone else noticed different MM for t54 mod.1 or jagdE100 ? I seem to be getting 40% "people" all the time in those 2.
I'm aware it shouldn't. But those two play way below my wr these days.
It happens. I was in a rut last weekend and had 45% wr in the Charioteer. I'm not a 45% wr player. @real silo
I'll give it some more testing.
@brisk badger where is it?
Idk
For some reason though I get Tier 7-8 games in my Is3def and 8-9 games in my Lowe most of the times
hello ppl
Yes, I once play with someone that are using hydrostat
Asia server isnt it?
Yes
The badger is absolutely broken, take it from me... i one one lmao
My friend has one as well
I have that
Is it worth getting the Jagdpanther?
maybe?
Guys is jagdtiger is a good tank ??
@pulsar flax fantastic DPM machine, absolutely recommended, especially with the top gun
Ok bro thx
@hallow briar yes but that 170 pen is nearly unbeatable, coupled with the 4.8 sec reload. The fragility of the tank balances it
@solid gate i still thinking British guys on ww2 was needing a class about armor
Ok but the Firefly is an American Sherman armed with the 17 pound gun, nothing else. Sure, British could rework the tank a bit, to make it more Jumbo or something, but the tank design stayed unchanged
Any advice about Jagdpanzer?
Is chieftain going to be on sale anytime soon?
chieftain mk. 6? no. The tier 8 chieftain? That's for sale right now
Any Advice Equipment For Panther/M10 ?
yeah, sell it
its a terrible tank
if you don’t want to sell it, i recommend this:
its my Rudy set up, but it should work the same
Ok Thanks
@calm inlet selling premium tanks is NEVER a good idea, even if they are toons, because you get credits which you can make anyway with that premium tank. Only collectors can guarantee a bit of gold in exchange. Don't advise other players of selling premiums, because inexperienced ones can really do it without getting any good from it
I need to ask something. With the new badger premium out, why can’t we buy it directly? It’s kind of ridiculous that we have to buy multiple boxes just to get it.
Yep, just bought two more and didn’t get crap for a tank. It’s so bs, wasted 14 dollars on it for nothing
@trail fulcrum its all about supply and demand. this is the first time the tank has arrived in the Store. When there's a ton of demand and a small amount of supply, WG can afford to put it in crates and sell a whole boatload of them. as the demand lessens and the supply increases when they sell it again, no one will want to play crates for it, so WG will sell it for gold or money at a fixed rate
basically, if you want exclusiveness, be prepared to gamble with crates. i hate the concept, trust me, but that's just how it is. WG wouldn't put tanks in crates if it didn't make them a profit
Yeah I understand that. I wish we could refund the purchase. I was hoping I could but I doubt it. Maybe put more compensation out for not being able to get it, like more than just free experience and credits
if you're down with waiting a few months, tanks will eventually be sold for lower prices and fixed prices. The 121B took 5 months to be sold from crates then to real money. the Chieftain took 2 months. now they're being sold for gold
Yeah, ok. I was just mad that it’s such a low percent to get it and so expensive. I know they want profit but, people can’t be millionaires
yeah. but do understand, its not like the Badger is game-breaking and you need it or you'll never win or have fun in Tier 10 again. a good old IS-4 is still the way to go if you want an all-rounder tank at Tier X
i seriously don't understand why so many people gambled their life savings into getting the Badger. its good, but not even that good
something that's slow and turretless can only be so much fun to play
Well I just wanted it because I’ve always been a fan of it. Wanted to give it a go, but now I’ve stopped trying to get it because there is no chance I’m gonna get it. I’m just upset that I fell for it and did that. Makes me less inclined to buy anything from them
@calm inlet But T22 med ....it can go against our good old Is4
And I don't think WG will be selling it unless it is in crates or extortionate price(money no gold as now a days every one can get gold from ads)
My favorite tanks
I really love russian TD's with high alpha
And medium tanks with good turrets
Question. The top 2 guns for T-54. The differences are so minor, that what’s the point??
not really
I'd say the gun directly going for the Obj 140 is better
it's benefits outweighs the other gun
Personally i use the higher pen gun, helps when you get uptiered. The differences are very minor but they are noticeable.
But At the end, both have the same gold Pen, 270mm
I prefer D-10TCS rather than D-54 because its Reload time and Dispersion
Hmmm all valid points. Thanks fellas🙌🏻
Though I must say, the D-10TCS has better camo values when firing
and the D-54 weighs more
but the D-54 has slightly better aim time
@shrewd basalt in 6.1 the Panther/M10 will get a good buff:
Base aim time, from 2.21 to 1.82
Dispersion, from 0.336 to 0.307.
So it will be better and you can put its firepower to good use more effectively
@solid gate ok thnx for the Info and I really enjoy trolling some Heavies with that tank
is the regular panther worth it?
@static token worth If U like to Play as Sniper or as A support tank
My friend made a comment that he made 300K credits in his O-47 any way this could have happened? I don’t think so
its possible with probably a bday, elite credit booster, premium time and a ton of dmg without firing any premium ammo and didn't use any provisions
I’ll take your word for it
Is it worth it to buy the CHIEFTAIN t95?
@brave swift no
You could just keep the gold for something better later
Gets good credits and you just can't play it right
50 120 is so useless
Thx for the tips
How am I even supposed to play it?
Flanking doesn't work because it's a pile of garbage that dies when it has to reload alone
Being a heavy doesn't work because it's paper
Sniping doesn't work because the gun takes 3 years to aim
@knotty vale two words. turret armor. only expose ur turret and play like a sniper
personal experience
I don't think the AMX 50 120 has turret armour
Löwe does
talking bout löwe
o h .
How to use 50 120?
even if you're talking about the lowe, if you're playing like a sniper I seriously doubt you're doing much good as a heavy tank
Löwe can do anything
It can't snipe
It can
Heavies should never snipe. Never
Should and can are different things
But if nobody here can tell me how to play 50 120, I'm gonna thank you for the tips and leave
How does one play the cromwell?
Finished grinding off 12k exp in the crusader, halfway there to a cromwell. I have 4k free exp probably for engines or turret
You could run and shoot, hide and shoot, but I don't know how you play the actual Cromwell
cant seem to play hulldown
Play it like a light tank
@calm stratus um in a platoon, a double platoon of 50 120s is devastating and good because there isn't a tank you can't clip out together
(unless your in a tier 10 match)
@brisk badger I don't play in platoons at all
I have not noticed how good the Hellcat is.