#vehicles-discussion

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brisk orbit
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get rammer

loud depot
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I have all Equipment unlocked on it I just dunno which of the 2 for each Is advised Bessie's ramming cuz it's a clear pick

median oak
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Rammer, Module, Optics GLD, Armor, Engine, Vstab, Toolbox, consumable cooldown

hearty zinc
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Armor equipment is the most useless. I never use it on any vehicle because it doesn't actually work 🤷

mighty glade
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It works on anything with 200+ armor

hearty zinc
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No it acts as some other undisclosed armor mechanic that doesn't give actual thickness

pulsar sinew
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It also doesn’t show with hit skins which is annoying

mighty glade
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Yeah

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At-2 with increased armor...

knotty vale
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Fix the camo for 252

full kiln
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Should I buy the sturer emil’s equipment?

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I have 1 mil to spend, should i buy equipment or just buy the borsig

zinc condor
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Borsig

full kiln
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But i love the sturer emil now 😄

zinc condor
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welp, what you want is what you want

broken parcel
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The Crusader scares me. I miss the Sherman V super bad

fiery crown
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Is wz112-2 good....was considering to buy it

calm inlet
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yeah its pretty darn good

fallen fractal
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wz112 over 112 Glacial? what's the difference

zealous anchor
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@hearty zinc Correct me if I'm wrong but I enquired about it and support said that it will just have a percentage increase in armour values at each part of the tank like in tank stats, regarding hitskin I'm not sure, could be tested in training room

unkempt jasper
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buy borsig first then u can grind credit again for your sturer @full kiln

inland osprey
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Yes

hearty zinc
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@zealous anchor It was already tested in a training room with the 3x caliber penetration mechanic. The +5% armor didn't help to ricochet a 183mm shot on a 60mm plate.

zealous anchor
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So Wargaming lied? I don't know too :((

regal zealot
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Not really a lie. They did say that the armor value is increased by 4%, not the armor thickness

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That would mean that the armor is imbued with a slightly stronger material, while retaining the same thickness.

compact wraith
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And how would that matter

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ā€œI have composite armour that can stop anythingā€
ā€œYea but it’s still only 100mm thickā€

full kiln
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Should i but rhe SU-100 so i can buy a SU-152?

rigid thunder
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English pls

silk mason
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Why WG nerfed Maus' lower plate without announcing

scarlet nest
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They did?!

calm inlet
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nah

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they nerfed the VK 100.01 P's lower plate

silk mason
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Maus' lower plate is nerfed

calm inlet
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it was not

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do you have the numbers to prove it?

solid gate
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He probably gets penned every time because he can't angle correctly lmao

median oak
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WG later announced after we tested the overmatch that it didn’t affect overmatching. It acts as RHA factor

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So the armor thickness stays the same. It just acts as 4% thicket for the purposes of penetrating

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I did the math for folks on the NA Forum.

silk mason
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@solid gate try to make angle enough to bounce jagtiger's APCR if you are so good...

median oak
brisk orbit
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wuhh

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new mod

jaunty sandal
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Say I had the T 32, and the T 25 AT had the same top gun. Wasn’t it before were if you had the one both were researched? Because now I think Blitz just put an AT in the name and now that’s not possible..... used to be but not anymore.... disappointed ā˜¹ļø

solid gate
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how much alpha damage does Foch Destroyer do?

vague flax
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640 avg @solid gate

solid gate
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Thx

stark siren
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@jaunty sandal they were always two different guns

jaunty sandal
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I swear I used to be able to have the same gun

main loom
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Give the T49 some love

rigid thunder
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it doesn't need love

thick trout
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It needs a tiny bit of love

main loom
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Yes, a tiny bit of love is all I ask

solid gate
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No

median oak
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T49 is fine as is.

stable oyster
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Do you think that the WZ 113 could need a buff or a nerf? Or is it fine as it is? What do you think?

solid gate
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Balanced

pastel drum
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WZ113 is OK. IS4 on the other hand needs either an upper plate nerf or a hard bottom plate nerf. And E50M needs to have upper plate armor nerfed just a little

scarlet kraken
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Neither need nerfs, pls stop

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Exact same train of thought that led to the is7 being nerfed to the ground

valid lodge
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Stop the nerfs begin the buffs

limber aurora
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Anyone know a good way to play the JP2?

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I just got mine and im wondering on how to play well

calm inlet
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go hulldown, get that sucker hulldown

solid gate
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E50 M and 113 are fine as they are, maybe, and just maybe, a little bit the IS-4 armor could use a nerf, A LITTLE one

unreal valley
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Few tips on the T25AT?

night citrus
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play it like a support tank, use the ridges and gun depression

tulip sail
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And snipe when possible

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Wait nvm idk about the t25 I confused it with the t25/2 for a moment

balmy parcel
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I know no the T25/2 is converted in defender in update 6.0?

tulip sail
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No it's still going to be a tech tree tank

ancient iron
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soooooo .-. anyone have tips for the stock Mk I centurion or should I free XP until I get some upgrades?

wise moth
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@jaunty sandal The T25AT and T32 have the same gun, except for the fact that WG added an "AT" designation to the T25AT's gun so it doesn't carry over

tulip sail
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@ancient iron free xp it or you might rage quit its really painful stock

ancient iron
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yeah I noticed.... even with prem rounds it seems to struggle .-.

tulip sail
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Yeah I nearly quit blitz bc of it

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Duel 76mm guns

zinc condor
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but what tier?

twilit wigeon
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tier 5 i guess

zinc condor
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is that an SU?

twilit wigeon
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It's a KV TD

zinc condor
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KV chassis?

twilit wigeon
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KV-7 i think

humble seal
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KV-7-2

twilit wigeon
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I think the way they name their tanks is by

  1. type of hull/chassis used
    2)caliber of the gun
  2. number of guns(?)
humble seal
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No

twilit wigeon
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Welp it was worth a shot
i was just guessing on a limb

humble seal
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It's usually type/name of tank followed by the year or caliber

twilit wigeon
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ah

humble seal
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Rarely followed by the model(?)

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Only found on very few tanks, such as the ISU-152-1 and ISU-152-2

zinc condor
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prototype?

twilit wigeon
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it was

humble seal
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yep

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And of course there are the tanks that don't follow this, but are usually the interwar designs

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Such as TG and T-111

twilit wigeon
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one 76mm and two 37mm right?

humble seal
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KV-7 (I haven't seen it being called KV-7-1)

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I'm not sure what the others are, they might be 45mm. I'd have to check

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Yes, 2 45mm guns

zinc condor
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So it shot three barrel on same time?

humble seal
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If you wanted, sure

rigid thunder
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would probably be a bad idea and horribly inaccurate though

zinc condor
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So tier 5 Helsing

humble seal
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Also the 45s had no recoil mechanism

opaque dune
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Japanese hts will never add in the game?

fossil violet
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yeah no this was confirmed by Ribblestripe

opaque dune
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so sad

empty bramble
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Is the AT 2 still any good? It got its hitpoints nerfed, and a lot of tier 6's can pen it pretty easily

scarlet kraken
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Dont think it was ever good

empty bramble
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Well, it used to be a rolling fortress

zinc condor
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it good in tier 5 and tier 4 battle

radiant spire
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Pz IV G or Leopard?

rigid thunder
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IV G

radiant spire
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Thx

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I must have money for ammo? 5600..

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Cuz i have 404 800

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Bye my love pz 35 t! My little cz tank..

rigid thunder
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yes, shells cost credits

radiant spire
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I must sold him because of money T-T

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But now I have V.

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Now I can use camo?

rigid thunder
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probably

rigid thunder
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Try restarting your game client

radiant spire
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Ok

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Yeah! Its working!

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Thx

full kiln
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just bought it :DD

brisk orbit
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snipe harder than everyone

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literally

formal turret
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Go frontline

brisk orbit
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also get 15cm gun

formal turret
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Use the amazing armor profile

rigid thunder
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always go town, especially on port bay

undone niche
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How reliable is the Cromwell

rigid thunder
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very

brisk orbit
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yolo to ISU-152s

formal turret
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Yes yolo is good

undone niche
rigid thunder
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I can make it reliable by cross referencing

full kiln
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why does my rhm get bullied :((

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just had two games and we all lost

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well, the first we couldve won but someone drowned in portbay

brisk orbit
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lol

formal turret
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200iq plays

full kiln
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and second the ISU yolo’d in castilla

brisk orbit
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dispersion on 15cm gun sucks

rigid thunder
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lmao

brisk orbit
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like a shot can land 5cm infront or fly 5cm above

solid gate
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@brisk orbit refined gun is a must

rancid mauve
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Differences between obj. 140 & T-62A. Go. (appreciate the feedback :))

brisk orbit
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obj has -7 gun depression

left anvil
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Obj 140 plays more like a t54. T62a is all about the gun

solid gate
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T62a have much better turret armor , and much better gun

rancid mauve
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Hmmm I’ll probably get both (eventually) but just curious as I was looking at their paper stats and couldn’t decide lol

solid gate
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Take t62a , right now it is just much better tank than ob , 1 degree of gun depression it

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@brisk orbit it got 6 , one more than t62a

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Obj 140 > T62A because of the armour, 1 additional degree of gun depression and mobility. Also, if you check blitzstars, you'll see obj has better averages (90 days)

fiery crown
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Obj140 is easy to play but 62a is all about finesse

lavish totem
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Please bring obj 705a to the game with new lights aswell

rigid thunder
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we do not need a better E-100

lavish totem
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Why? Already exists with VK anyway.

rigid thunder
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the Object 705A has a lower profile, a stronger turret and a smaller+stronger lower plate. It has weaker side protection for the hull, and the gun is basically the same except it has worse gun handling by a small margin. It's basically better than the E-100 in almost everything. The VK 72.01K is horrible at sidescraping because of the triangle weakspot

solid gate
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@lavish totem we don't need Russian bias tanks

frank swift
solid gate
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Hmm? What is that? @frank swift

frank swift
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IS-8 + Rocket Launcher(Atgm)

lavish totem
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Why? Its just another tank. No big deal. You can drive Russian bias enjoy the benefits or have to kill Russian tanks. It balances out. So what difference does it make.

frank swift
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Obj757 @solid gate

solid gate
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Lol

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Actually i would like to see t10 as the t 9 tank

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@lavish totem oh myb that 705a is pretty broken even on pc? It is supposed to be Russian e 100 but without turret weakspots of e 100 ,nor the poor mobility

frank swift
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@solid gate IS-8 =T-10

solid gate
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What's next , artillery?

frank swift
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No art pls

lavish totem
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So balance it simple

solid gate
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@frank swift tbh I didn't know it lol , then is the pc t10 got just difrent hull or smth?

lavish totem
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All wotb tanks undergo balancing. Easy

solid gate
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Cuz everyone they did balanc them on pc

lavish totem
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Game is dying fast. Being against new tanks is just helping the game die faster.

solid gate
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Well it isn't

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You may even check how many players it gets XD

lavish totem
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Anyway. To the devs. I'd like to see 705a and other lights join the game.

Cheers. šŸ¤ž

solid gate
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XDD Ah at least you made me laugh

frank swift
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@solid gate
After Stalin died in 1953, IS-8 was renamed the T-10 tank because of political factors

solid gate
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Lol then have just buffed it , thx m8

hollow oyster
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I don't play tier 4, but just check the B1's second gun.
Why does HE deals the same damage as AP?
AP deals 50
APCR deals 30
HE deals 50

scarlet kraken
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Russian bias does not exist in blitz

hollow oyster
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I think they just messed up with the A20

solid gate
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It'll be fixed in 6.0

humble seal
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IS-8 = IS-8

languid steppe
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It’s an error by the devs iirc

humble seal
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The IS-8 was the final prototype (after trials of the IS-5 had been completed) before it entered production as the IS-10. It was renamed T-10 after the death of Stalin shortly after production started

tepid briar
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Greaaaaaaaaat, more fake overpowered tanks are coming. They flash and make realistic battle noises and everything

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I bet if they put old tanks in the store for like $10 they would make more money

tulip sail
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How do you know there op? All we have is the screenshot

solid gate
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@humble seal but it is complete rubbish the IS-8, the IS-7 is so much better

humble seal
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I guess?

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I would argue that the T-10 was much better

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The Object 730 program started after tests of the IS-7 had concluded

tepid briar
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I’m going on past experience @tulip sail

tulip sail
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So you have no solid evidence since just because something has an auto loader doesn't mean its op

tepid briar
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I don’t care about auto loader but when has WG brought a paper tank and not have something op about it? @tulip sail

tulip sail
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Type 64

humble seal
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What's paper about the Type 64

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The light tank or something else?

tulip sail
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The t7 amx , (I love it but) the rev

The light tank

humble seal
tulip sail
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Its armour is next to non existent

humble seal
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Well yeah

tulip sail
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Yeah ik it's a real tank

tepid briar
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I said paper tanks

tulip sail
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Oh you ment paper projects

humble seal
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ffs man

tulip sail
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In that case are you counting fake tanks aswell?

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at8 , su-122-44 (its gun/ is good but hardly op ) , t-34-1 , type t-34 scavenger, strv gravedigger

But the o-i isnt in blitz

humble seal
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It really do be like that

tulip sail
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I'm glad it wont come to blitz either

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The maps are far too small

humble seal
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Why is the T-28 premium

tulip sail
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It's a collector and collectors were to get rid of alot of the seal clubbers

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And thin the low teirs

brisk orbit
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su-122-44 was a cancelled project

solid gate
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You know how in the shop there are premium chinese tanks? I don’t know if I should get WZ122-2 with attachment and camo (15k gold) or the WZ122-2 and WZ111 (17.5k gold)

brisk orbit
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too expensive.

humble seal
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@brisk orbit as far as i'm concerned, the su-122-44 is fake

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i have no information on it other than the two drawings of it

fiery crown
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@solid gate go for 12.5k bunflw

solid gate
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Why so?

calm inlet
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because the camo and attachment are just cosmetic

thick trout
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Use the 2.5k gold you save to change your name or something vaguely uselful 🤷

sand widget
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platoon tier 10 ??

brisk orbit
sand widget
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some one

empty carbon
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Why British tanks in stock are such a... I try to find an appropriate word for.🤢

royal agate
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Add Panzer IV AUSF H as a Premium

zinc condor
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A pain in the foot

knotty vale
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Is it dumb to go for all the tier 6 Russian tanks rather than specialize in one line?

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I love the heavys and su-152 and idk about my or t-34-85

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What is it

maiden quarry
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is there an updated equipment tips list someplace? I played last before there were 9 options on equipment and the only thread on the forum is from 2018 and it draws a lot of criticism

livid wraith
zinc condor
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So people is kinda want new turret for E100

solid gate
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Hmm? I think e 100 turret is perfectly balanced

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It got huge weakspot , so ppl can't tell it is op , but at the same time angling is making it almost impossible to pen

zinc condor
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why does we do not have Grille 12?

grave inlet
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Wz111Gft vs obj704

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On paper obj 704 looks better and yet the wz111gft plays like a beast

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I got the wz and am having a very good time

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It’s probably the armor

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I feel much more confident pushing

next dove
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Vk 72.01 k or maus which is better

zinc condor
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Maus

next dove
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Thanks

grave inlet
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Both are good

languid steppe
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Why is the sh*tbarn not with the 183, and why is the badger not replacing the fv183

brisk orbit
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badger aint replacing 183 cuz cash

rigid thunder
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@languid steppe because wargaming can make a quick buck

languid steppe
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Yeah, pretty much. But replacing it means people want to spend and grab that before it goes out, no?

rigid thunder
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Putting a tank in an overpriced crate will always earn more, as compared to making some rush the line with free exp

languid steppe
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Though you can always push the 183 out for cash grab later

fiery crown
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Is Mauschen a good tank to get

brisk orbit
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ye

reef gorge
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Should I get T-54, Caernavon, KV-4, Hellcat, or Chaffee?

spice ruin
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depends wut u see in a tenk

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most or all of these tanks have terriab;e stock* idk if im right

reef gorge
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Well My Hellcat is already Uped

spice ruin
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ok

brisk orbit
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t-54 top gun has uhh....quite 'unreasonable' shell costs

reef gorge
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why?

spice ruin
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because its from the USSR

brisk orbit
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t-44 top gun AP - 252 creds
t-54 top gun AP - 1230 creds

reef gorge
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Oh Jezz

spice ruin
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just fire 10 shells in battle waste much credits

reef gorge
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I see

brisk orbit
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just dont brawl lots

reef gorge
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How about the Caernavon and KV-4?

brisk orbit
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cae is good afaik

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kv-4..um

regal zealot
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@brisk orbit it’s more to do with the alpha, the SU-100M1 also faces the same issue.
It’s stock gun, which deals 280 alpha, costs around 252 credits, while the top gun, which deals 310 alpha, costs about 1230 credits

brisk orbit
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sheesh i wonder what leo top gun costs

reef gorge
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Thats interesting

regal zealot
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Not that much of a jump for credits, as the 12.8cm shell on high tier German tanks costs about 1230 iirc

vivid lagoon
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SU100M1 top gun has 330 HEAT tho

regal zealot
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We’re referring to the standard shell costs between the 280 alpha gun and the 310 alpha gun

solid gate
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It may be cuz top gun is "t9 " gun

zinc condor
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100m or 152

brisk orbit
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what tank

zinc condor
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SU

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Tier 7

rigid thunder
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152

regal zealot
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SU-152 is a more enjoyable tank. As it starts with the 152mm derp right away, it’s pretty nice straight out of the box.

If you wanted a more aggressive tank, the 100M1 can dish out DPM, at the expense of very little gun depression and time on target

solid gate
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And expensive ammo cost

solid gate
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FV215b 183 ammo cost is enormous

formal turret
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Has to be since it's a 183mm shell

solid gate
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Plz I’m going to buy a premium and need advice

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Preferably a fast one or it can be a heavy

zinc condor
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Lowƫ?

inland osprey
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Tog II

solid gate
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Is Lowe a credit machine?

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Right?

zinc condor
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Right, yes

solid gate
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Mmm and what about sĆŗper Pershing

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Or t34?

ember atlas
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T34 Very good in hull down. Makes credits too

solid gate
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Ok thanks guys

ember atlas
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Hull is weak

solid gate
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And super Pershing?

ember atlas
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I don’t have it

solid gate
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Ohh

ember atlas
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Lowe is very good

solid gate
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I see

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Wish we could test drive tanks man

ember atlas
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Easily a 60k every battle

solid gate
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Wow

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I’ll buy it

ember atlas
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Play it 2nd line and u do well

solid gate
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Ok thanks for advice

ember atlas
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Yeah

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Yw

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Equipment settings I have them all on the left

idle zinc
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I’m going up the Chinese lines and I want to know if I should continue with the meds or do the Chinese heavies, what do you guys say?

inland osprey
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The Chinese meds are decent
So are the heavies, but the Chinese tier 7 IS-2 is bad

idle zinc
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So meds?

formal turret
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Heavy line is better In my opinion

distant veldt
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If you decide to do the chinese line i recommend doing the heavy line first so that you can unlock many of the researchable things for the medium line (trust me it makes your life so much easier especially at tier 9 wz 120)

formal turret
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^^

left anvil
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@idle zinc the Chinese med line is garbage. The td line however is fantastic at tier 7-10

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Also the heavy line is awesome at tier 9-10. The WZ111 1-4 is one of best tier 9 heavys

stark siren
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Stop the med line at tier 7 because that one is insanely good

distant veldt
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I enjoyed the tier 8 too

idle zinc
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So you all say heavies?

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I’ve asked people in my clan and they said meds only bc The is-2 is bad apparels

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Apparently*

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I’ll just do meds first then come back to the heavies

unreal valley
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I mean, almost all tech trees have their bad tanks

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Some people may also like specific tanks more, because that is just their general playstyle

eager eagle
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can someone tell me how the hell to play my leo 1? it is bloody useless

distant veldt
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Play it like a PTA

idle zinc
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@eager eagle it isn’t useless

humble seal
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@brisk orbit rip i was wrong

idle zinc
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It’s actually a rather good tank, you just need to make sure you don’t get hit by HE or HESH

unreal valley
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Play it like a TD. Your paper thin, you just can`t get hit

distant veldt
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If you see either a Jag

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183 or 4202 then play really passively

idle zinc
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Like don’t run around all wild

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Play it smart

eager eagle
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ok, i will try

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Thx

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its just blitz maps r so small xd

idle zinc
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Tru tru

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They can’t really expand them tho, like 10 players was thought of but it will never happen

unreal valley
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Why is that?

eager eagle
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not much space to move

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and whenever u try to do long range the whole team shouts at u

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and they dont own it

unreal valley
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What about simple map expansions?

eager eagle
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wdym?

unreal valley
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As in, why don`t they just extand the maps more? Not PC or Console style, but enough for 10 players.

eager eagle
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they wont

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maybe one of these days i will crack the leo

unreal valley
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Just keep trying, eventually you`ll get the hang of it. Take as much advice into consideration as well

eager eagle
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but for the moment i will try to grinf

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not from the players in game ttho. XD their only advice is that u should die owo

unreal valley
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xd

eager eagle
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nice name X3

unreal valley
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Oh cheers, nice to know someone actually understands what an oxymoron is xD

solid gate
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IS-7 needs to stop being a self propelled ammorack

eager eagle
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do u own leo?

solid gate
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yes, It doesn't get ammo racked all the time though. IS-7 does

eager eagle
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yeah, thats cus the ammo rack is on the front of it.

solid gate
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Which autoloader heavy is best? T57 or Amx 50B

brisk badger
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50b

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T57 is in it's current state worse in pretty much every way

solid gate
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Why???? Discuss plz

brisk badger
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It gets heat (which is better) it has a 2.5 intraclip

solid gate
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why did they remove T1E1 and MS-1? they were the best tanks in game!

brisk badger
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And it's not as HEable

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T1E1 is still here but MS-1 is gone @solid gate

solid gate
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T1E5 is here but not T1E1

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@brisk badger are you telling me the pros of t57 or cons?? Confusing

brisk badger
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That was the things about T57

solid gate
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But what sucks in it

raven jacinth
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all tanks are balanced

brisk badger
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What do you mean?

median oak
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T57 isn’t mobile enough for its armor. So the 50B is generally a better autoloader ā€˜heavy’, as it can move around the map and bail of the getting gets bad on reload

distant veldt
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But the thing is that if you dont have experience with auto loaders then grinding the 50b will absolutely wreck you

brisk badger
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Very true

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I'd start with the T57 line just to learn and and then go down 50b

hallow briar
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Heeeem, i already bought JadgtPanther but i think it's slow for a TD with a med chassis

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Gib me some tips for play with this german

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Pls

brisk badger
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Just wait for the JP2

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You can play it with the meds

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Use the DPM it has, but it can't be by itself because it just doesn't have a good enough traverse

hallow briar
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Hum play like SU-122-44?

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Boooi, i do some frontline and flank with SU-122-44

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But don't think the jpanther's armor let me do front

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Huuuuuuuuuum

brisk badger
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No

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Try second line, because you don't have the kind of alpha the 122 does

wheat ledge
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Ferdinand is life if you want to front line as a TD.

brisk badger
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But you do have more gun depression so try front lining so ridges

calm inlet
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the SU-122-44 has 4 degrees of gun depression so good luck getting shots off

hallow briar
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Yeah sometimes it's hard use the gun depression

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But the armor is so useful for a tank with med chassis

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It block dmg easy

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Impenetrable for some tier 6

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Ohhhh the dpm, it's lovely

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The Ferdinand look like better

median oak
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Ferd has been powercrept since earlier 2015

bold zenith
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Yes

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WZ has entered the chat

median oak
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Wonder why we never see the 120 FT stats šŸ˜‰

solid gate
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It's a mystery...

hallow briar
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It look like op

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Huuuuuum china china chong seems interesting

median oak
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The 111 Fake Tank has my second highest tier 8 dmg. Care to guess #1 🤫

fiery crown
#

Sure it must be wzft

solid gate
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I back to this game
And i see
Thx developers
Devs destroy balance in this game šŸ‘

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Ob252u is too op tank

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I congratulate good idea šŸ‘

twilit wigeon
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252u isn't as broken as everyone think it is

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the lower plate can be penned by the weakest of tier 7s and the traverse makes it easy to circle

zinc condor
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Yes

solid gate
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I understand that the premium tank must be better

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But ob252u

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This is inflection

twilit wigeon
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The IS-5 is easier to play and is better imo

solid gate
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But what they will not do for money?

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Eh i only wait for mobile version warthunder

thick trout
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Lmao whats so op about the 252? @solid gate

solid gate
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Sorry developers. I was going to stay with this game, but what you are doing is embarrassing

thick trout
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You just going to complain or answer my question?

undone yew
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Hi i need hep with t 34

solid gate
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When you have at least 5 IQ and you can use the armor of this tank, you can not beat lmao

thick trout
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T-34 or T34? @undone yew

undone yew
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The russian medium

thick trout
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@solid gate yes so easy to hide its gigantic lower plate...

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@undone yew use its dpm as much as possible, and keep angling and moving your armour to get as many bounces as possible

undone yew
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Ok tanks a lot mate

solid gate
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Ob252u is the worst tank in game yes

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@thick trout you see what you write?

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This lower plate is easy to hide

thick trout
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Its gigantic, its almost impossible to hide. Occasionally you might find one in a good position (this happens ever 500 battles) but then you just ignore it, it isnt difficult

solid gate
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Eh, there's no reason to argue with you because I see you're a proud owner of 3 IQ

hallow briar
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@twilit wigeon nope, T23E3, the M10 Panther and Rudy have problems with this high plate without apcr, I'm not sure but i think SU-122-44 have the same problem

twilit wigeon
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well nothing is going to pen the upper plate and everyone facing it will know just by looking

hallow briar
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My Rudy and my SU-122-44 have a serious problem to pen the low plate and the sides, the 252u doing face hug is immortal

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The upper plate block tier 10 dmg, more armor than obj 268 pen

twilit wigeon
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it's only 170mm thick on the lower plate

left anvil
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Ya su122-44 will struggle against any tier 8 heavy. You can’t even pene side of a IS-6. Rather annoying

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The side skirt I mean

twilit wigeon
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SU is always going to struggle to pen with it's 175mm of pen on a tier 8 heavy

hallow briar
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@twilit wigeon rudy and other premium tier 7 meds pen 140-150

twilit wigeon
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that's why you load some prammo just in case

hallow briar
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So spam prammo and don't get any credits :D u saved my life ohhh yeah

twilit wigeon
#

well if you're using premium tanks as you clearly are describing there's nothing wrong since the credit coefficients of tier 7 premiums compensate for the prammo use

hallow briar
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So try to use 10 prammo in a premium tank

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10, and you will lose a lot of credits

twilit wigeon
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I used 20 and still made a profit without premium time or boosters

hallow briar
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Hoo so you was with full hp or hit and pen every shoot

twilit wigeon
#

I was at 100 hp left
and I bounced like 5

median oak
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Tier 7 tank complain about front penning tier 8 heavy without Prammo - cry me a River.

regal zealot
#

The 252U’s armor only really works if it’s above you or at the same height. If you’re above the 252U, shooting down on it, all that armor will be nullified.

empty bramble
#

Hey, what are some tips for playing the Churchill 3 against tier 6s, especially heavies? I tend to just get smashed. Is the higher pen 57 better to pen arl 44s?

brisk badger
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Lol

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Just stay away from tier 6 heavies

zinc condor
#

Let your team mate deal with them

maiden quarry
#

are either the Krupp-38d special or the Panzer V/IV worth it? Lookiing at one of those or the T-14 heavy

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looking primarily to run for credits at tier V

zinc condor
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T14 is superior

maiden quarry
#

Thanks

hollow oyster
#

How to beat the 252U ?

The same with beating anyone.

Take the HIGH GROUND!

chilly cargo
#

The Krupp is good. I have both t14 and Krupp

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252 isn’t op. Just circle, flank, or shoot it’s lower plate

thick trout
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@primal nymph yes because its so easy to find positions where the gigantic lowet plate can be hidden...

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You think the average player has any hope of doing that?

zinc condor
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No

thick trout
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Yes i know (not completely true hut lets not get off topic), but if a tank is OP or not is based of the average player. It doesn't matter if one person can do well in it, it matters is lots of people can do better than they normally would do

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Its a new expensive premium tank, most normal people arent going to be playing it

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Dont you think about 73% in the kenny is a little too high?

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For a new tank that is relatively difficult to play well, 62% does not make it OP. Noobs who bought it cant play it well, so dont play it but others who can play it well play it a lot. Other tanks like the defender are played by a greater variety of people, specifically lower ability players and it still has 60% WR, but no-one is complaining about that

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@primal nymph i didnt say everyone that bought the tank was a good player. Generally the people that bought it would have been above average because they buy the most prems. But the people who actually play it will generally be above average players because its relatively difficult to do well in, and so noobs would play it a bit thrn give up.

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And whats unique about the 252?

rigid thunder
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the basically impenetrable upper front plate

thick trout
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And that is used so much because people dont just aim for the lower plate... VK100 also has a very strong upper plate too, that doesnt make it unique

rigid thunder
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? I literally just stated what the 252U has that other IS type tanks don't, and that is a really strong pike nose. It's the most "distinctive" feature of the tank as far as I can remember

thick trout
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@primal nymph vk100 can sidescrape amazingly, but ofc there are definitely more places to hide a gigantic lower plate, consistently get shots off, and not get flanked with the 252. 🤦 252 has a pretty bad gun, as well as a gigantic lower plate to negate its armour, its not OP

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@primal nymph if it is only good players that play it then it is not an OP tank. It means that it has a high skill ceiling so they can do well in it, which is not OP 🤦

rigid thunder
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Well, not really true. The T67 is a tank on WoT PC that is considered OP because in the hands of an experienced player it becomes a tier 5 curb stomper

vivid lagoon
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^^

thick trout
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I can massacre the reds in my T28 prot but no-one says that is is OP 🤷

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You are saying a tank is OP because good people can play it well, which is untrue...

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High ceiling tanks are not broken 🤦

rigid thunder
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High skill ceiling tanks are not broken, as that only represents the amount of skill to do well in it, and does not represent how well you will do in it if you play it well

thick trout
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"You're losing track of the argument here"

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@primal nymph that was because they could do well in those tanks because they are good players, not because the tank was stupidly broken.

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@primal nymph just because good players can use a tank well it doesnt mean it is OP (notice how you have stoppped saying OP and have now gone to broken)

calm inlet
#

Button is 100% right

thick trout
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M4 49 has 59%, defender has 58% and you arent complaining about those?

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So how about we say that every premium tank in tier 8 is broken?

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If people are above average in them then they must be broken, right?

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But still the rush to play the 252 is settling down, so its inflated stats will go back to it being just a decent tank

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@primal nymph so every tank in which people can do slightly well in is broken?

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The disadvantages that the 252 has balence out its advantages. It is a decent tank, but it is definitely not OP, and 62% from a tiny sample of players that payed for it isnt anything too special

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The entire playerbase

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They have charts of 55-65 players, but obviously they factor in everything to their decisions

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Ah yes,ofc they just ignore over half the playerbase

wintry sand
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252 is the is-6

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If you want to properly complain about a vehicle say the correct designation

thick trout
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@primal nymph yes that sounds very smart doesnt it. They just ignore over half the playerbase to balence tanks just for fun 🤦

wintry sand
#

You'll always deal with half of something not being used

left anvil
#

šŸ¤”

wintry sand
#

Do you want to make a vehicle brain dead easy for a 40% to do 4k

left anvil
#

Or. Is the half even their šŸ‘€

thick trout
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So you are saying WG just ignores over half their server to bring out balenced tanks? If they dont understand how to play against it then it needs a nerf.

wintry sand
#

Wait its called the 183 after they decided to nerf all the mediums and not touch the real issue

rigid thunder
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I don't think wargaming actually releases premium tanks with the intention of making them balanced

thick trout
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@primal nymph just take a little think about how much sense that makes 🤦

wintry sand
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That's why wg post the 55-65 statistics

left anvil
#

He makes total sense. If you want a super competitive game you will ignore the window lickers

wintry sand
#

Say if they went any higher vehicles would be nerfed cause the players that are playing them just do so well but you probably wouldn't get the same from a 55% player

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Example would be the badger & I avged 3.6k over a course of a 100 games

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Now take the broken state and have a 55% person do it

left anvil
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Lmao

wintry sand
#

Probably the person could do 3k relatively easy if they played their cards right

left anvil
#

Gagagaga. Just chillin and lickin

wintry sand
#

And for the 252U it's alright but not a broken vehicle

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It may have its moments where it can appear broken

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Bet

left anvil
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Tape measure extends......

wintry sand
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If its doable in every heavy vehicle then why isn't it seen more often

gritty silo
#

...

half wyvern
#

which line should i focus on, m41 walker bulldog to t57 heavy or lttb to obj 140?

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obj 140 has monster dpm and good armour but t57 just seems abit op

rigid thunder
#

the 140 is probably a better choice

fossil fulcrum
#

Is the T30 tank destroyer good?

left anvil
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It’s very good

haughty void
#

Probably the best tank in the entire tier 9

wintry sand
#

For a tank destroyer

hexed bridge
#

T-34-3 and/or 59 Patton worth it?

rigid thunder
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idk about 59-patton but the T-34-3 is pretty good now

half wyvern
#

@haughty void WT

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59 patton badd

inland osprey
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WT gud

golden aurora
#

Is any god FV215b?

solid gate
#

I was thinking about the T-34-3, then I saw this... It's practically a slightly heavier and premium T-34-2 with the same characteristics and the same play style of a TD... If the price is reasonable I'll wait for the Skorpion G

solid gate
#

I have T-34-2 which I have actually done well in. Do you think I would enjoy the T-34-3 because of this? Based on your experience is it worth it?

twilit wigeon
#

T-34-3 is almost never sad since it has no depression
same with SU-101

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a more armoured T-34-2
you can get almost the same play style of the T-34-3 if you mount the 122 just less armour and not as fast

arctic apex
#

Did bushka or meadsy or sk8 review the second buff on the t-34-3?

scenic elm
#

2 trash tank more

quartz dragon
#

Trash T343 and 59 Patton

solid gate
#

trash

quartz dragon
#

Why resale tanks that hardly anybody buys

solid gate
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@twilit wigeon or just play the t44 with 122mm

fiery crown
#

T44 with 122 is awful

solid gate
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Just play T-34-2, you can exploit the mobility of its lighter chassis. T-34-3 is a bit slower and sluggish on disleveled terrain. The T-54 modeled-like turret and the aim time are the only things worth of the tank, and also I can't explain why the T-34-2 mounts a Chinese 122 mm gun, while the T-34-3 mounts the D-25 TA gun of IS-5 and IS2sh, and common also to the WZ-111, 112 and 112-2, with always different shell velocity and some other parameters. It seems the different guns between the two meds have exactly the same parameters, it's strange

solid gate
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I got the T-34-3 via crates from last year and now they are just upright selling it on the store! In my opinion, I feel like they should add 20-80 more horsepower into the vehicle so it drives a little better.

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@solid gate almost every tank is the 1st time sold for many $$$$$ or inside crates, then the next year or two is sold again for gold

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I picked the M4A1 RevalorisƩ for just 8k gold instead of 12.5k 6 months ago, more or less, so they discount them also

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@solid gate that is very true, I have seen tanks go for crazy amounts, and it’s just part of the advertising and marketing methods WG do.

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That's the why I am willing to wait one year or two for a much discounted Skorpion G, considering maybe this time they will sell it for an amount of gold I probably am not willing to buy

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I am waiting for lower tier premium/collector tanks (1-5) so that I can get them and keep them for good. I was about to get the lines pre 5.5 tech tree for German and British TDs and poof it’s gone. I even wonder if WG is even consider reselling the old researchable tanks.

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All they mainly sell is T8 premiums, it’s really frustrating to just wait for something in particular and a T8 vehicle is up for sale. IMO, I don’t want to wait a half a week for the next offer and see another T8 on sale... #moretiervarietiesthan8

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Personally I found the Tier 8 sold this year very interesting and enjoyable, I got the M4A1, and maybe I'll get the LeKpz if I can make up my mind

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But here's the reason why many people can profit from buying them this time, this screenshot is about the last time those tanks were in shop. 8k gold or the bundle of 2 tanks are a deal for those 3 Tier 8 tanks

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Hmm. Come to think about it... maybe I am just a little too harsh on the T8 tanks, but I would think a little more variety than just T8 should be added

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But they sell also some Tier 5 tanks lately, and for very good prices I say, 1400 or 1500 gold, plus equipments and premium account. I say they should put more Tier 6 or 7 in shop, that's for sure

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I totally agree

hoary kettle
#

@solid gate rev 12k gold 😐

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Seems lagit

hexed bridge
#

Thanks for your advice, iā€˜ll stay with my premium tanks and wait for the next one

arctic apex
#

If only the t34-3 has 215 pen...

solid gate
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@hoary kettle yes but some weeks ago it was sold again for 8k gold, the same price as LeKpz 90 mm and now the T-34-3. So I got it, and totally happy for that discount

hoary kettle
#

Ik i got the rev for 9.5k

heavy moss
#

8k seems pretty fair for the t-34-3 at this point in time. Its a fun tank but the biggest downside of it is the tier its in.

tulip sail
#

Yeah its really hard to carry in the rev

solid gate
#

Can you believe I got so many bounces with the super troll gun mantlet of the Rev that I almost don't feel at all the lack of armor, fun as h*ll

tulip sail
#

I uhh face hugged a an is3d and won

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Or was it an is3

near forge
#

For some reason I've stopped being able to win in the higher tiers. T6 is iffy, 7 is a no cause I get uptiered in my T25 AT and die, and the Krupp is just slightly broken at the moment XD

tulip sail
#

Lol

near forge
#

Like, my Lowe I do well in and my team goes into a grinder before I can get to the fight and help. Same story in my KpfPz 70. My 140 is whether or not I make an el stupido mistake or not

#

5.5 got rid of the Seal clubbers, but it helped the less able players up the tech tree XD

tulip sail
#

Yeah

median oak
#

Folks have been failing up the tiers since 2014.

tulip sail
#

Yeah but I feel it's more noticeable now but that might be bc I'm no longer the one failing my way up

solid gate
#

As you improve the flaws in others will become more visible.

quasi mirage
#

the big scam for the high price tank was the mutz. 15k gold for the MOST generic tier 8 med

pulsar sinew
#

ā€œThe mutz is so good. It’s a better indien pzā€

fossil violet
#

it is

plucky summit
#

Not in armor, and that makes it fine in WG’s book šŸ˜‰šŸ‘

pulsar sinew
#

That’s fine. I have never once wanted either so it doesn’t matter to me

half wyvern
#

anyone actually like the tier 5 leopard?

#

i dislike it

solid gate
#

Before 5.5 was one of the greatest tier 5 tank

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Its ez to get with him on fire any other enemy tank. But now i dont know bcs 5.5 was all ruin

zinc condor
#

It still fine

hallow briar
#

Yes, but actually no

#

Actually the kv-1 is the most popular and everyone prefer it

#

But before 5.5 leleopard was a legend

median oak
#

@quasi mirage I love the Mutz, I’m like 77% with over 2k avg dmg in it. It’s an excellent tier 8 med

quasi mirage
#

Im not saying the mutz is a bad tank but its so GENERIC.

tulip sail
#

I want the mutz but not for more then 6-7k gold

wraith breach
#

The CDC is insane good. It might come on an event like the CDC did at some point, as did the Hype 59 and others.

astral glade
#

Do we ever have black market at wot blitz? Like they do at wot pc?

quasi mirage
#

CDC is garbage. GUn handling is awful

tulip sail
#

You mean like people selling there accounts?

quasi mirage
#

No armor+ garbage turret = awful tank

tulip sail
#

Yeah its not even fun to play like the m41 is

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(I'm not a light/lightmed type of person)

astral glade
#

@tulip sail no, like they selling premium tanks in very cheap price

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And i think they sell walker bulldog for credits to

tulip sail
#

Yeah and they do it on black Friday

astral glade
#

I saw that on the wot pc youtube channel

quasi mirage
#

i dont get why anyone likes the CDC. Huge+no armor+ bad gun

tulip sail
#

I like it on two occasions it's the things bday or it's a first win grind event

calm inlet
#

gun is pretty decent

tulip sail
#

Yeah but for me the fun just isnt there

#

So I like never play it

quasi mirage
#

Gun is awful. It has average pen and slightly above ROF but gun handling is worst for any medium tank

wheat ledge
#

Eh?

#

Pen is decent. It pops most tier 8 heavies frontally.

quasi mirage
#

pen isl iterally avg for a tier 8 med. Maybe a touch above. Anyway the gun handling is so bad it doesnt matter

green zodiac
#

Will the sherman firefly become a collector? I heard that somewhere.

quasi mirage
#

Literally 212/258 is the generic tier 8 med pen these days

main jacinth
#

Tell that to russian and chinese meds

wheat ledge
#

212/258 is more than sufficient to pen most tanks. The handling is fine once you slap on equipment. The alpha is "ok". The only thing bad is the armor vs. size of tank. You have to play the thing like a light instead of a medium.

hallow briar
#

I'm near the personal access tier 10 and i really want Lƶwe...
Who need to be the first?
Russian bias and derp armor or german bian and stronk cannon?

wheat ledge
#

Lowe is worth it. I like it more than the Russian heavies available, but that is personal preference.

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@green zodiac I doubt the Firefly will go collector. The new TD line is supposed to start from it.

green zodiac
#

Oh ok thx

unkempt jasper
#

Anyone know how to ammo rack maus?

zinc condor
#

So basically between the turret and the Hull?

solid gate
#

You can check in armour inspector for yourself

calm inlet
#

yeah but its hard to rack a Maus due to the high HP of the tank's modules

solid gate
#

Was about to say that

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In my 45k games, I've only seen one Maus getting ammo racked

devout tapir
#

@solid gate can you show me where E5s ammo rack is located plz?

solid gate
#

Armour inspector

devout tapir
#

Ah alright, I thought some ammo was located in the turret, thanks.

zinc condor
#

How many mbt classed tanks again are there in Wotb?

regal zealot
#

Leopard 1, T-62A, STB-1, M60, M48, Chieftain, KpfPz 70

#

Centurion I, Centurion 7/1, Type 61

rigid thunder
#

Oh well was typing a list but I might as well add on
Amx 30B, Type 59

leaden gazelle
#

Check out how badly the M4 performs now...

rigid thunder
#

M4 Sherman?

regal zealot
#

M4’s solid. As long as you only expose the turret, you’re set.
I’d say otherwise for the Firefly though. It just doesn’t have good gun depression, due to the gun

rigid thunder
#

If you ARE talking about the M4 Sherman, it's still a really good tank. I've only just bought it only to grind for the T49 but it has decent protection and a really good turret. DPM isn't lacking either and the gun handling isn't bad at all.

leaden gazelle
#

Lol M4's solid?

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8.5 second reload for a gun that does 150 dam

#

and always get uptierd to tier 6

rigid thunder
#

Yeah to me it is. Performing pretty well on it as well

leaden gazelle
#

slow as a wet week..

rigid thunder
#

Just spend a little credits on a rammer and provisions, it helps alot

leaden gazelle
#

mines all maxed, but doesnt help uptiering

solid gate
#

Mines should be limited up to a certain tier.

leaden gazelle
#

mines should be 1-5

rigid thunder
#

I haven't even bothered to get the tracks, 9k exp isn't worth it at all

solid gate
#

It just makes the vehicle maneuver better, mainly. Not by much.

rigid thunder
#

Also better aim time

solid gate
#

True

leaden gazelle
#

you know what people do when they see an M4 on their team? they push it up in front and let it soak up damage for them...

rigid thunder
#

That doesn't really equate to the tank being bad

leaden gazelle
#

its a personal shield

#

i didnt say that was the reason

rigid thunder
#

Eh fair enough

solid gate
#

Make sure not to have the M4 go physically downhill while there are enemies, or it kills the purpose of the armor profile.

rigid thunder
#

The M4 really doesn't bounce much outside of the turret, but it does provide decent protection against leopards

solid gate
#

And their spamgun turrets? Yeah.

#

I may need to use external resources to study armor composition of tanks for this game... is there any places I can go to?

leaden gazelle
#

The battle after I was ragging on it...

solid gate
#

HOLY... 11k loss for a mastery class badge? Worth it! (◠‿◠)

plucky summit
#

A šŸ‘šŸ‘ PšŸ‘šŸ‘CšŸ‘šŸ‘R xD

zinc condor
#

say M4 is bad
play the M4
got Mastery
take the word back

leaden gazelle
#

pls make this into a meme so I can become famous

plucky summit
#

Yeah probably not

leaden gazelle
#

yeah thought so

plucky summit
#

So did you spam APCR or was it overloaded consumables and provisions? Or both?

leaden gazelle
#

well i didnt use any rapair kits or med kits, just food and fuel to get the tank to perform, and APCR for a kv1s and vk 36.01H

solid gate
#

I just noticed that the armor of turret rear of the T-34-3 is uncommon for a med, 150 of thickness, the only similar tank which has it superior in value is the T-55A, but it is Tier 9

arctic apex
#

@solid gate 121b?

solid gate
#

@solid gate su-85?

arctic apex
#

@Iron Striker 327#6152 suit doesn't have a turret tho

fiery crown
#

Tier 8 tech tree tanks need buff

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No one takes a single tech tree tank in tournaments.... except for RU or T49....

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From this one can see how much underpowered are the tech tree tanks

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Its more like the team that has more premium tanks is gonna win(252u wz112-2 wz120ft) more of a pay to win

regal zealot
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@leaden gazelle if you want to learn about the armor profiles of tanks, get Armor Inspector, or search tanks on Blitz Hangar

solid gate
pastel drum
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there is a loooooong time until french whelies come

solid gate
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if this is a premium only vehicle then i will quit the game

haughty cargo
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bring back ue 57

solid gate
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^^^best td in game

haughty cargo
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i would have it as my car if i could

solid gate
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gets confiscated for being weapons of mass destruction

haughty cargo
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police: is this your car? me, an intellectual: well technically....

solid gate
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Tank: (1) A heavy steel box crammed full of explosives. (2) an efficient crematorium for it’stalented crew. (3) Otherwise, a monument to the in accuracy of the direct fire.

plucky summit
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@haughty cargo They want low tier lines to be narrow so it’s not so diverse for new players, sorry 😐

hallow briar
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JPanther need urgently a buff

plucky summit
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Depends on the reload

hallow briar
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Why 5 or 4 secs for reload if the alpha isn't good

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The transverse is thw worst, it was a med chassis

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Armor will make you fell in a light tank

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And the aim isn't so good

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The match making will give only tier 8 battles so it's impossible make a good damage

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I really hate it but i want Ferdinand

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Try to change my mind

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Pls i need a reason for play with it

plucky summit
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Tiger (P), DPM monster, ~5.5 second reload, JPanther, what reload time?

thick trout
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@plucky summit 4.4 with the 8.8

plucky summit
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Better than Tiger (P)? Didn’t it do ~220

thick trout
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Yes 220 same as tiger p

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600 more dpm

plucky summit
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Then consider it a glass cannon, a sniper, don’t complain about the armor being bad for a TD unless it is kinda optimized for frontline

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The camo can be a little better tho

thick trout
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And if you want alpha use the 10.5, still with better dpm that the tiger p

hallow briar
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But i didn't research the tier 8 cannon : /

plucky summit
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Never expect a stock tech tree tank to be good unless many of their modules were researched through the previous tank xD (aka Obj 704, unless it has that engine because I have IS-8 already)

hallow briar
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I don't think so, obj 704 with bl-10 is perfect, with engine or not engine

plucky summit
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Yes, I love it already

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But that BL-10 came from ISU if you think it would be stock

hallow briar
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And jpanther in 75% is a little bit better, not cyberpunk like SU-152 but good

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Now i can get some xp

plucky summit
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Yeah get it maxed and you’ll see its full power

hallow briar
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Motor Maybach HL 230 TRM P30 or tier 8 cannon 8,8 cm pak 43 L/71 in jadg panther?

plucky summit
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Idk

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Also why would you have an AMX 13 75 but with a 90mm, VII but with a better gun in VIII xD

shy quail
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Can the PZ.IV A have her HE shells back but with nerfed damage?

hallow briar
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Großtraktor have the same problem, but his gun don't need a nerf, the aim, the reload and the armor are already bad

shy quail
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Yeah well, I want the HE shell on the PZ.IVA to have around 100-125 damage. Not Russian biased like the BT-7 art.
Well, I meant just not biased

hallow briar
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Groß was the kv-2 of the tier 3, 1 HE shell made 200 dmg

shy quail
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True. But the HE shell on the PZ.IV A was designed to destroy buildings and not tanks. Thats why I want it to have 100-125 damage since its "purpose" is not on enemy tanks.
Just keep the reload long

hallow briar
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But what about IS-5? Is it worth? What about the armor?

shy quail
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IS-5 is like the IS-3 but slightly better imo

hallow briar
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I never played in a tank with the famous "pike nose"

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So it will be a new experience

shy quail
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Nah, I still wish for my PZ.IV A to have a HE shell with 100-125 damage since its a rare tank. AP and HEAT shell stinks

half wyvern
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@solid gate is that the panhard?

hallow briar
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Probably yes

tulip sail
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The is5 is definitely worth it imo since its the price of a t4 premium and it's a trophy showing that you stick with your clan

half wyvern
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lol i only joined the clan im in because its got tier x supplies

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i left the other clan as it was on like tier 5 supplies and i was tired of contributing 80% of the xp for clan supplies

solid gate
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@half wyvern I feel you there man, so I've founded my own clan time ago and set my goals, after a falling out with my previous clan with its incompetent and childish leader

hallow briar
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I will left my clan when i get the tier 10 personal access and go for other one with tier x clan supply, buy the IS-5 and go again to my clan

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Simple, easy and fast

tulip sail
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I wont leave mine if I'm the last active

hallow briar
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So leave it, no friends online for play = no fun

tulip sail
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I said I wouldn't

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Even if

hallow briar
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I don't understand why but ok

tulip sail
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Dedication

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Loyalty

solid gate
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Same. My clan is awesome.

hallow briar
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Be loyal for who if they are all off

tulip sail
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The clan

half wyvern
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is it normal to get tier x personal supply before u actually own a tier x?

tulip sail
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Yes

half wyvern
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good

tulip sail
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I got mine before my t9

half wyvern
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i got 3 tier 9's and alot of tier 6-8 tanks

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got like 70% researched on tier 10 personal access

tulip sail
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I've had a few t9s and I dont enjoy them

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Well that's not true I like the tanks but t9 is boring itself for me

hallow briar
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My first tier 9 is Obj. 704, i got 2 or 3 aceds in it, it have my second best average dmg

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Search in my profile, I'm @hollow moth's secondary account so here is the nickname

tulip sail
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I first got the e75 but I didnt enjoy it so I sold it my next was the m46 which I'm starting to enjoy it

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But every match feels the same

hallow briar
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I liked ISU-152, I loved Obj. 704 but I hated Obj. 268

tulip sail
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I only made it to the su152 but I enjoy it

hallow briar
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Bruuuuh, my average wins are almost 38% in 268

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I really don't like the pike nose

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But i want IS-5

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šŸ¤” confused but ok

tulip sail
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Its fun at times

hallow briar
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The worst in the 268 is his armor, it's IS-8's armor, the same, but without the stronger turret

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So it's easy to pem

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It's trying to follow JPanther tech tree but this tank is very meeeeeeh

tulip sail
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Seems like you shouldn't go where you can get penned

hallow briar
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Yup, it's confuse cuz u are wearing a heavy skin but you look like a medium tank with an ultra mega cannon

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That's why I'm going to that german line, it's the second our third most powerful heavy armor of the game + massive dmg

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A perfect Frontline TD

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And this tank have the "famous german aim"

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So it's a strong killer machine when teammates are near

median elm
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Should I get the wolverine or the Easy 8

hallow briar
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Easy 8?

tulip sail
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E8

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It's my favorite tank

hollow oyster
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Wolverine and ez8 aren't even in the same tier.
Get the ez 8, most balance tier 6 tank in my opinion

tulip sail
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I cant believe I'm saying this but the Cromwell might be neck and neck with it

leaden berry
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You know it's not balanced when you bounce a KV2 AP shell

tulip sail
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Angles are beautiful

regal zealot
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laughs in Sherman Jumbo

leaden berry
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British Bias?

tulip sail
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Lol no just good

leaden berry
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Play the KV2 with the stock turret but with the 152mm

tulip sail
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I'd rather not touch that with a 50ft pole

regal zealot
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mfw i prefer the kv2 with the 107mm

tulip sail
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I'd rather not touch the kv2 period

regal zealot
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You can bypass it by grinding the KV-1S instead. That unlocks both the KV-3 and the IS iirc. Removing the T-150 was stupid imo.

tulip sail
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I've been through it I couldn't stand it

leaden berry
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I still have the T-150

tulip sail
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Same here

leaden berry
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Still a great tank with that armor buff and stuff

tulip sail
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Yup I dont play it often though

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If I play t6 i usally play one of my shermans

leaden berry
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I have 900+ Battles in my DĆ­cker Max

tulip sail
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I honestly forgot that I had that

regal zealot
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DƮcker Max is a beast of a TD, that tank got me grinding the Sturer Emil again. Now on the Borsig, that 15cm cannon is godly

tulip sail
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Yeah it is a nice td

solid gate
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Just you wqit until you get the wt auf pz and get the top 15cm Pak gun, it becomes infinitely more flexible than anything in its tier. Fully traversable turret, short reload compared to other 150mm+ guns in its tier, low dispersion and aim time for a gun of that caliber, good mobility and camo when firing, and the top speed allows you to take quick strikes from close range when enemies are distracted, possibly even two hits if you use hard cover and adrenaline

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and the reload is so short that you can brawl and 1v1 heavies and lightly armored tanks, and come out alive

regal zealot
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Yeah, planning to get that Waffle Tractor. It even has good gun depression from the rear!

shy quail
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Is it that the tier 9 WT PZ.IV?

plucky summit
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Yes

alpine olive
static mountain
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Should the T30 snipe?
Thoughts and opinions please!

calm inlet
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not really. Play the WT instead

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kinda, but not totally

plucky summit
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I’m pretty sure IS-6 Fearless has the same coefficient as IS-6...

static mountain
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Thanks for the quick response (=

calm inlet
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i don't suggest front lining but second line is fine tbh

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it can go hulldown decently

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but do expect the cheeks/cupola to get penned from time to time

plucky summit
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Keep dancing when hull down >:3

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Well, when you’re reloading of course

calm inlet
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@alpine olive very nice list.

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however you're like 2 years late lol, Positive already made a list in 2016 and its pinned on the NA forums

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however, i will pin that here as well

alpine olive
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aw dang

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It took me like 7 hours to make that

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but is his version updated to include new tanks?

calm inlet
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yeah, it has everything but like 4 tanks

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however, he calculates the coefficents himself

alpine olive
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I just used blitzstarsšŸ˜† . I cited them though

zinc condor
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😃

full kiln
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which is the best first Tier 9 to get among the three: WT auf Pz. IV | E 50 | T-54 ,im looking for a fun tank with a pretty ok stock grind and no i am not going to free exp anything.

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im going to try and earn 3.5 mil so i can get my first tier IX :DD

zinc condor
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Wt

calm inlet
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Obj 704

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assuming you already have the BL-10 from the ISU-152 and the top engine, those both carry over

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@full kiln the T-54 and the WT auf Pz. IV were the first Tier IX's for me lol. but they did need a good amount of experience to fully max out

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id probably go with the WT auf Pz. IV. Get the top 15 cm gun, then get the 12,8 so you can research the Grille 15

junior path
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^ thats what i did for my WT, absolutely love the tank

full kiln
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thanks

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i love the rhm so ill probably love the wt!

calm inlet
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yeah you will

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its basically a better Rhm

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unfortunately, the Grille is not a better WT

junior path
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Agreed

zinc condor
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It's almost like a devolution of Wt

full kiln
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if only grille had a 18cm gun and had the same accuracy

zinc condor
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The only downside is armor

calm inlet
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there's a lot more than just that lol

junior path
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To me its not the armor, its the camo rating and turret traverse limits that makes the grille bad

calm inlet
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camo rating is bad, traverse is bad, gun angles are bad, gun bloom is just completely terrible

solid gate
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my choice was M46 patton and M103. i didnt do too well in them but the T10 are just great

zinc condor
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Maxing out Vk100(p) first or get KV-4?

junior path
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Like you have the WT with good camo, great gun factors and the grille literally carries none of that over, the only thing it has is a better gun

solid gate
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wtf grille isnt bad at all, 900 games and 64% ... 3k avg thats ok i suppose. you have to make clean shots and move alot thats what the grille is about.

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@junior path you know, that line what the WT had, would have been the WT auf E100. the T9 prepares great for it, but not for grille. that makes it unique i think and also very strong

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@zinc condor VK first. its a bit sluggish but the armor really is great

junior path
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Hmms

hexed sail
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183 problem is the alpha
isk why wg did nerf everything but not the alpha
so tank now is so bad but still hurt others and make them rage when gun hit

valid lodge
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From what I've heard it seems more of an issue of the pen plus the alpha. The point of the 183 is to have a big boi alpha so nerfing the alpha defeats the point of the tank. They merfed the camo and such since it was too easy for it to sit back nuke and not be spotted.

brisk badger
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#remove

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I mean honestly it's not like it's ever going to be balanced

woeful pumice
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They should give it jageroo alpha

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On AP

haughty cargo
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eh

arctic apex
#

If you can have 640 he at t6...then 930 isn't ott at t10 sorry

half wyvern
solid gate
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@half wyvern Excel

half wyvern
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i dont have that

solid gate
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Almost any type of Office application can open Excel files

half wyvern
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where does the file download to?

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nvm, my onedrive is at max storage anyways, the struggles

solid gate
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I suppose the default Download folder of your device

half wyvern
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its missing angry connor

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does it not include any premiums

haughty cargo
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angry connor was great

solid gate
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@half wyvern check the row of tabs on top of the page, the document covers all

half wyvern
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it doesnt say coefficients of any premiums

haughty cargo
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ue 57 defender

white rune
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I use the "outdated" T-150

haughty cargo
#

ues

scarlet nest
dusky stone
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Personally I don’t see the comparison

near hornet
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I only see the turret resemblence..nothin' else.

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The size of the turret.

haughty cargo
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its the kv-2s dad from another land

near hornet
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Kv-2's long lost british cousin.

median oak
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Reverse Lend/Lease

near hornet
#

Lease/Lend ? :)

solid gate
#

how much turret armor does this thing have

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It is 14mm LMAO i better pack some spare HE shells with my grille

half wyvern
#

meadsy spent £10 on pak40? it cost me £3 lol and i got 7 days prem with it too

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Ā£3 is 750 gold and pak40 sells for 950 which is already a profit

solid gate
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FCM36Pak40?

half wyvern
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ye

solid gate
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Oh

half wyvern
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in wot pc its op, 3 sec reload 100 damage but in this game it sucks

rigid thunder
#

it's not the 75mm gun that makes the fcm PaK 40 OP, it's the overpowered viewrange

zinc smelt
#

Which tier x gun do you mount on the Centurion 7/1 ?

solid gate
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The HESH gun

tight palm
#

Hello there ,I have enough credits to buy my first tier 8 tank,I'm confused with is 3, t44,ISU 152 which tank should I buy first?

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Hello there ,I have enough credits to buy my first tier 8 tank,I'm confused with is 3, t44,ISU 152 which tank should I buy first?

rigid thunder
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It depends on what kind of tank you like. I'd recommend the T-44 just because I like medium tanks and mobile gameplay, that which it excels in.

tight palm
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I did really well with t43 too

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@rigid thunder ok I'll go with t44,thank you for your assistance

rigid thunder
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be ready for a bad stock grind though

silver verge
#

Is is-5 good?

rigid thunder
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yup, very good from my own experience

silver verge
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I heard bad opinion about it

zinc smelt
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@tight palm ISU-152 with big gun is a must have tank eventually

hallow briar
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i don't have it but i watched some battles in IS-5, the armor is a little bit derp because sometimes u block everything bit in other times u look like a medium tank, the pen and the alpha are good but aim and reload aren't good, the turret is impenetrable @silver verge

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Face-hug and running with side-scraping is good for the tank

silver verge
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I know, side-scrap is the basis

solid gate
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Is the Is2sh a good tank?

pastel drum
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not really. The tank is meant for sidescraping but when you sidescrape everything shoots at your turret cheecks

gusty pier
#

Hi,do you know when T-54 Mod.1 is back in the Shop?

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I wait it comes back in the Shop because I would like to buy IT.

modern condor
#

Why wg... why

tulip sail
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Why not?

knotty vale
#

I was the last one alive against a kv 3 with 500 health and me with 200. Somehow I did it and got a mastery!

hallow briar
#

@knotty vale guy, it's a printscreen, not a discussion about a tank

median oak
#

@modern condor the new Brit TD line isn’t like any other TD line so far. I don’t like TD’s generally but these look kind of fun.

valid lodge
#

Kinda enjoying the T-43. Armors a bit troll and while I'm still relatively new to the lights/meds playstyle (Working on the French lights and T-43 lines atm) kinda feels easier to play than heavies and Tds. Is the T-44 similar to T-43?

solid gate
valid lodge
#

Ceaser returns as a tank to avenge his wrongful death

solid gate
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@valid lodge Free Sherman for the D-Day Anniversary right here lmao

tulip sail
#

Why would he be in an American thank then

valid lodge
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@tulip sail Would you not want to come back as a sherman?

tulip sail
#

Fair enough

solid gate
#

Me: Ooh free tank!
Everyone else: Chonky Sherman

tulip sail
#

Although I'd love an m4a3(75)w

solid gate
tulip sail
#

That's from the Pacific theater though

valid lodge
#

?

tulip sail
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The wooden running boards and the camo both of which are very common during the Pacific theater while not so in the European theater or metateanian

solid gate
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Hmm

tulip sail
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I know a bit too much about shermans

solid gate
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@tulip sail Have you ever watched a movie called Kelly's Heroes?

tulip sail
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Its been a long time

solid gate
#

Maybe Oddballs Sherman?

tulip sail
#

But that's a post war variant

solid gate
#

Guess I'll keep looking

tulip sail
#

I could suggest a few unless you want to look for them

solid gate
#

King of Tracks

tulip sail
#

Iirc that picture was even taken in Normandy

solid gate
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lirc?

tulip sail
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If I recall correctly

solid gate
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Yeah

tulip sail
#

It was either in Normandy or right outside

sage grotto
#

Hi billy, remember me? i was in 2 battles with u and asked were u grinding the firefly/

left anvil
#

If you where sitting in a cardboard box you would be slapping on scrap metal as well

solid gate
#

@sage grottoyes I remember

undone yew
#

which vehicle should i choose, type 58 or the wz TD

regal zealot
#

Wz TD is fun with good mobility and solid DPM on both guns, Type 58 leads to the strong T-34-1 (if played right)

undone yew
#

oh

chilly valley
#

Wich murica td is the best to grind ?

brisk badger
#

Neither

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Both absolutely horrid lines

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But E4 if your serious, it's a little bit of a friendlier line

solid gate
#

E3 is better for competitive

bronze anchor
#

Which of the modules are worth getting on the KV-3?

solid gate
#

Use the smaller gun, the 280 alpha one, because it is infinitely more comfortable to handle than the 400 alpha one.

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@bronze anchor

neat nimbus
solid gate
#

it's a one time purchase type of ordeal @neat nimbus

neat nimbus
#

so i dont have to pay after use is good

solid gate
#

correct. You buy it and is free to use thereafter

neat nimbus
#

yes i save more for the t29

split totem
#

Is it just me or is the sherman firefly bad

plucky summit
#

It’s mediocre, the VK 28 and Cromwell fill it’s purpose more than it does, use it as a recreational tank

jaunty terrace
#

Hi. Does anyone know how to get T-22?

rigid thunder
#

toss cash at a screen

jaunty terrace
#

Ok, I'll ask game support how to get this balanced tank

olive sky
#

sell both your kidneys

solid gate
#

@jaunty terrace Currently the tank is not for sale. You will need to wait until it is offered again and then purchase it. I do not know when the tank will be sold again.