#vehicles-discussion
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HEAT sucks
I have like 50k battles in total so...
HESH better
The T23E3's gun is too small anyway.
If you are forced to fight a Tankenstein it only means the team (heavies) failed you.
50 k me 1567
You trying to sell to me that you cannot flank without getting destroyed by a TD? @obsidian pewter
Nope
If you cannot get behind or even beside the Tankenstein, then you're better off finding a better target, and leaving the Tankenstein to your team.
@solid gate no
Yes sir
I must say. For those guys that get the Rudy it is a superb tank to learn the medium play style in and all around grinder
It was my first ever premium and I guess I got lucky with that
I really liked my Rudy, at least until the VK 100 came out.
Since then I've been driving the Rhm.
You really can’t make a comparison in those.
Is IS4 realy so good?
Use the isu152 with bl10
Yes
Yeah…
It's just that I'm kinda tired of small-caliber guns.
Rhm also struggles to pen vk atleast with ap
RHM is more fun in pubs. The camo is fantastic and the gun much more accurate then isu
Play the fv183
I can always switch to HEAT with about three hundred pen
Ya. The heat on RHM is pretty good. You need it for the IS frontally
I use rammer,supercharge, and improved accuracy. Seems to work best for me
What is the best rammer in the game???
I use about the same equipment as you, except that I'm using calibrated shells.
Because I don't find myself shooting right when the gun is loaded.
Any heavy tank
I think the E50M rams quite well, as a medium
I play RHM as close in support after 2 min of sniping
Because RHM has a turret you can set up right behind ur heavys and do the peekaboom
50b and e50m probably @solid gate
No. But I’ve done quite well with rammer in RHM. In tournament play u have to switch it to CS but pub it’s all rammer
THX a lot
Any tips for playing sta-1?
@bright current don't, it just sucks. Save free xp until you can bypass the STA and Type 61 (which is even worse) to get to the nice STB.
what about Jagdpanther, is that tank good?
its alright
The whole German TD line is really good and consistent
e50m
I have a question the foch or the amx 50 B
AMX 50 B
50 b
T28 Defender is not a tank. It is a fantasy. Nothing can pen it's front or rarely the sides.
@royal walrus are you sure you arent playing tier 3 against it? Its front is easy prammo pen by everything and quite a lot of heavies can go through it with ap
@thick trout tier 8 KV5.
Which gun are you using?
I'm actually kinda liking the 17k Exp gun on the KV2
It doesn't have the extreme damage potential but it allows to be more mobile and Agressive
uses the 167 pen gun complaisn WHY NO PEN
I just run the high pen gun and rammer to keep my sanity, and KV-5 seems to be working more for me now
T-34-85 Rudy is incredible, that's why i think it's a very good medium tier 7:
High DPM, 2501 without equipments
Lol armor, it blocks an IS and a SU-152 sometimes
Good agility, Rudy's engine is very stronger, u get 50 km/h easy
Good turret, it's hard to pen when your enemy is and tier 6 or a 7 with low pen
Fast reload, i prefer to pun calibrated shell because the penetration is low, so my reload is 4.8 secs, but with gun hammer the tank reloads in 4.4 secs
It's a tier 6 killer
the t34-1> rudy
'-'
Yeah T-34-1 have better turret
But Rudy still a very good experience for a premium
I think it's worth sell a Großtraktor or an FCM46 pak idk what for try your luck in chests
I find tech tree T43 better than Rudy
It's a tech tree, not a tank
And think a little
T-43 have only 40 hit points more than rudy
Rudy have a better dpm
It's 2246 (T43) vs 2362 (Rudy)
Who block more shoots will win
It will be a hard battle
But in DPM, rudy win, they don't have a big difference between HP
So it's normal a rudy win
T43 also has more side armor
Yes because it's a tier 6 in a tier 7 skin
But side scraping is useless in an alone fight between T43 and Rudy
Tier 7 tech tree meds most of them .....comet t43 panther are on par with the premium meds....bar Dracula which has good pen even against tier 8 with its premium rounds
I fighted with a lot of medium with fast reload but Rudy is the best
It's a good style of fight
comet is big powercreep and t43 is better than the rudy
Rudy have a better DPM
the reload difference is like .2s isnt it
I havent played either but ive played against both a lot, good t43s who use their side armor are insane
lot more troll bounces w the t43 too
T43 > Rudy
Lol
Opinion: t43 better than rudy
Argument: he has 75mm on the sides
Tiger 1 have 100mm on the sides but side scraping without a building is useless
t43 just gets that extra flexibility
Is angling with that armour useless
also tiger 1 while angling is quite nice
Tiger 1 is best tier 7 med
No, just no
Tiger isn't a med, other meds have a better cannon, other meds have better agility, other meds have better armor
Tiger has HP pool .... armour that can bounce poor pen med guns by wiggle.....can sidescrape..... good dpm and accuracy.....and good pen nos.....good gun dep.... mobility to keep up with meds circling.....
Dont tag me plz
@stark siren i pen a tiger 1 with angle easy
it becomes a lot tougher when you angle at least
T23e3 spots tiger first so he shoots first, he can't angle if you go to a side when you run,
Tiger 1 is a really damn good heavium though, i usually disagree w the best medium thing just because of the mobility but i havent played the tiger
also tiger can probably keep up w a t23 through a combination of mobility and damage
I forgot tiger 1 can ram meds too😂
I played with tiger 1 and the hull armor isn't good, turret's armor is good but have a big weak point, if a tiger try to angle, just use apcr
just play it like a medium
you obviously cant play it like a stereotypical heavy tank
Just got a brand new baby Tortoise. Had enough free exp for engine so not entirely stock but any tips?
Whoaa so let's flank with a tiger and spot everyone, why not?
you have the capacity to play with the meds
It makes your armor more effective and your gun also becomes a lot better when you arent trading w 400 damage guns
i mean ive never played the tiger but theres a reason they had to nerf the gun
Use full gun arc and gun depression whereever you can
try to hide cupola and use the gun to its best don't go near the ones firing gold shells and tds as your super structure is penable easily by hts ,tds and meds firing heat ....keep on wiggling @valid lodge
Rudy is the best med 🙏
i agree
So time to use "Dancing Turtle" style?
You said it for make me shut up right? Rudy isn't the best med but T-43 isn't a Rudy assassin
Heavies are medium... hum... crazy people
😅😅😅
Why the hell the ST-I stock comes with a tier 8 cannon with less drilling than the KV-4? It seems that the developers did not care about this and thought it would be possible to play against tier 9/10 without any problem
' - '
Most stock tanks are terrible
My opinion is that all tanks stocks should start with the cannon of their respective tier
And what about the tanks that start with the gun it actually had
Stock tank should have their own mm. Like for e.g. stock vk 45.02b vs maus,the maus is near unpenable from the front and you are too slow to gwt to his side so if stock tanks could only have -1 mm with rhe lower tier being maxed it would be a more fair fight than the e.g.
Yes, like I suffer too much to drill a heavy / medium tank with the 122m ST-I cannon
Who agrees with me?
Que times are already really long and I dont feel like dealing with mm being split
Dont worry i dont think theyll implement it now but that only if the playerbase number skyrockets in which i highly doubt with the current meta
I'd be surprised if they ever implemented it
Stock tanks do have preferential matchmaking for the first couple of games.
They only meet tanks with the same tier or lower than themselves during that time.
that will be the case, unless the queue times are too long, then the MM will give you normal matchmaking
But is it worth it tho?
Might wait for the event to end to get a SU-122-44 to grind creds
get gold and get the is5
Dont want it
E50 stock grind is horrible
Dear god the stock grind is bad. I skipped to the gun then grinded out the rest
basically all tier 9 stock grinds are horrible lol
@quasi mirage hey that was my idea to get is5!
SU122 54 isnt but thats coz the su 101 is absolute garbage
Quick poll
IS-6 or IS-5
reply with "@eternal finch" with 1 reason aswell
IS-6 because armor angling is quite fine for the front, but beware of high pen meds. Sidescraping is possible but without gun depression you cant hull down, and with that T H I C C turret cupola u can get shot there but you can try wiggling the turret a bit
IS 6 for the DPM honestly
@eternal finch
jest equip it with the high dpm gun and play it like a big med
^
Tbh yeah. Works so much better that way. But I love how versatile it is. You can equip high pen gun and reverse sidescrape allll day in it
And face off against enemy heavies. Just make sure they aren’t super tall and shoot down on you
Oh wait
I didn't know the IS-6 has two guns
one has better dpm the other better pen
@inland osprey It comes from when the IS 6 and KV 5 were basically the only russian tier 8 heavy prems. both have a high pen gun and a high dpm gun
Hmm
Both are 122mm guns?
KV 5 has a 107
I mean the IS-6
yes
Ah thanks
Why the fv4005 is autoload gun
because, 183 gun is irrelevant
That's just gonna be a quicker firing E-25 that can't take HE shells
Looks like something that belongs at tier 6-7, imo the ASU-85 seems to be more fitting as it's a bit more different
Is there a good way for me to learn how to set up tanks?
Like I don’t want to just be told what to do I want to know what stats are better
Guys at15 a or t2e3
@raven rampart depends on your playstyle, if u like frontline td, then u can try AT-15A with a rather large cupola and can be penned easily. T23E3 is like a comet and a bulldog spliced together
and then SU-122-44 if u want a peekaboo tank and a sniper and some point
The AT-15A has the lowest credit coefficent
The T23E3 has a medium credit coefficient
The SU-122-44 has the highest credit coefficient
Meaning, the SU-122-44 is the best for making credits
T-34-85 Rudy have a dog
This dog operates a RaDiO
When an enemy kill the radio operator, tHeY aRe KiLlInG a DoG
It's a polish dog inside a russian tank with some polish modifications
But i love killing rudys
It's a matter of what tanks you're good at
So you want everything.
I guess the SU-122-44 has those, 9s reload on 400 alpha, and a T-44 hull giving it decent mobility. The upper superstructure is also 90mm at a steep angle, making it ~175mm effective head-on
@rigid thunder I have su
Then why would you want the AT-15A
Idk
you should probably get the T23E3
of course it is
I want SU-122-44
The kv-2 needs to be nerfed to about 200-280 dmg per shot
make the aim trashier so they miss almost every shot
Remove the tank 😂 😂
@tight pewter try to circle the kv-2 and show only the sides for the tracks block a HEAT or a HE
I've shown my sides to smashers plenty of times
-1k
yeah
the smasher is a completely different ball game though, that thing scares the heck out of me
Yes
U need to be a very fast tank or an vk-100 for kill it without problems
AMX 13 75 it's a good choice but if u get a hit... dead
the faster the worse, because it means you're very vulnerable to HE
"Ohhh no wrong turret again lol"
Vk100 kill smasher? I just lob HE at vk100’s for 200-500 he splash 😚
Smasher isn’t a problem. If it is so is lupus
Congrats. You've listed the two tanks that are BOTH problems.
Faster the better generally. I’m more worried about fast cod then a heavy squaring off with me
Drac would have a higher wr then both is it wasn’t for all the 40%ers in it 🤣
Vk doesn’t have side skirts
Will Dracula ever go on sale again
Yes
Nope, it have a side skirt
it will
U think so? Well let’s look at this then
maybe for an odd 20k gold at blitz fair lmao
yeah be ready to set aside a hundred bucks
I might if I have to... I can not spend another purchase on games till Dracula
Looks like that HE splash I mentioned for 200-450 easy damage.
@hollow moth
If u read what I said, penning wasn’t mentioned. Splash was
200 it's not so much, vk 100 makes 400 or 500, i forgot the right number
460
Smasher can do over 400 with splash alone. Anywhere on the vk besides barrel of coarse
They shouldn’t have nerfed vk aim stats. Shoulda just lowered traverse a hair
Their slowly adding more. In fact in a few days should be some more British ones
Nice
We need SPG's and artillery. I would like to see some in German tech tree as well.
Maps to small to be useful
Also it would eliminate the only reason why many would play Blitz instead of WoT
We already have spgs
Such as
Stug 3g
Ferdinand
183
Valentine at
Technically all tanks/tds (but let's stay specific)
Churchill gc
Ft ac
Wz120
Blaze
Etc etc
They’re called AT-SPGs
(Anti tank self propelled guns)
That's not an actual designation or at least in all of my time studying armoured vehicles I've not heard it but if you do have a source on that I'd love to read it
Ok that came off alot more hostile then intentional and I apologize for that
I remember seeing it on some site on War Thunder and in game(WT)
Though I could be wrong
Tbh I'm not good at communicating online and I've only heard of a few things that are similar to "AT-SPGs"
Which would be
Spg
Spaa
Spa
Which tanks would most closely resemble SPG's from tech trees? (No premium tanks)
Specifically German
I already have the JagdPanther, it's pretty nice
Jagdpanther is meh. Not really SPG material
Stug 3 g
Ferdinand
Jagdpanther
Jagdpanther 2
Marder 2
Nashorn
Jagdpanzer 38t
Jagdpanzer iv
I never tried marder 2 and I feel bad I never got it
I never played nashorn
I think your meaning spa (self propelled artillery) which isnt in the game
Is jagdpanzer e 100 close to what artillery is?
What would be the closest thing to artillery be in German tech tree even though they would be classified as TD?
👀
I guess the stug iii g since that was designed to support infantry
Nothing else?
Alot of the tds in the german tech tree were actually tds
Now to be fair I'm not staring at the tree rn but I cant think of another one that wasn't an actual td
Really? Which?
I can look but I think just the stug
I have a question, what's really the role difference between TD and artillery? They're both specialized at taking out other tanks
i'm no history expert but i believe artillery shoots explosive shells as infantry support
Yes they are completely different
explosive shells can also be used to destroy buildings etc
The ipic, jagdpanther jagdtiger and jagdpanzer 38t were all ment to kill tanks
tank destroyers mount guns specifically made for penetrating armor
Now there is the st emil and dic ker max which were ment as anti bunker (although also used as tds ) and not necessarily alot of tds actually used aa guns which had to be hv and have enough power to shoot extremely high
tru
I want more different TOG tanks. 😞
I sometimes thought Nashorn was artillery. Is nashorn artillery?
Yeah such as the 90mm m3 which started out as an aa gun and theres also the famous flak 36
Nope it's a tank destroyer
@arctic ember believe it or not there are several different tog tanks
@tulip sail I know there is. That is why I want more in game😕
And if you guys would like I can send you a link to a discord I'm apart of that is dedicated to afvs that also writes articles on said afvs
Oh ok I mis understood your message
np =) happens
Lol yup
Is su 152 and onwards artillery?
Nope they are the traditional spgs ment for Supporting infantry by destroying buildings mg nests at best and other such hazards
Is the strumtiger artillery?
Nope ,bunker buster
That
the term spg technically applies to every tank doesn't it
Kinda any that has a 20mm or higher gun
*larger
True
Arty is a very vague way of describing a vehicle since any tanks is technically a SPG
Well not really science arty would be a mortar
So an 88mm gun from a tiger is technically SPG? I'm not sure how that works
Yup spg is eextremely vague
SPA is more specific
artillary specializes in indirect fire and tank destroyers specialize in being a tank that destroyed other tanks at a closer range
Not really since anything that has a gun of a 20mm or larger caliber is an spg
Is fv183 op or not?
Also howizters are difficult to explain if they’re arty or not
Yeah
fv is balanced, despite what noobs who dodnt have the tank like to say. fv 183 is slow, big and has bad armor. its gun is its only saving grace
I like tanks that takes out enemy units or fortifications at extremely long ranges. Any examples in game?
The st emil or di cker max
Literally any tank that wants to camp in the corner of a map
I think he means the historical side or the afv
Any tank can camp in the corner of a map tbh
Just that TD and artillery are better at it
Or more suited in this case
There arnt any actual arty in the game as only direct fire guns exist ing
T82 was ingame before
But only fired directly
Wasn't that artillery?
Arty is indirect fire
G.W E100 is a good example though, yes?
Like in PC
Of?
GW E100
No like an example of what?
Of artillery
Oh hold on I'm not familiar with pc
Oh
I don't have PC either. I only knew about the GW E100 less than 30 minutes ago
Ah and yes
GW is an arty if that's what you're asking
Ok. Last question here. Which German TD is best for its tier? (Based on experience, stats, etc)
Jp2? 🤔
@merry grove in game it plays as arty
Jagdpanther 2?
I would say Jagdtiger?? It has excellent DPM with good armour... Im bouncing a lot of my tortoise shells on it from front of its armour... Good mobility etc. Great tank tier for tier
Imo
@restive sparrow basically all of them are good tanks
The ISU-122S is actually insane, the DPM is over 3,300 at tier 7.
@wraith breach wow....
@wraith breach my jpz4 just laughs
😂 😂
So go for jagdtiger as the best German TD?
As I'm saying it's my opinion... But jgpanther 2 is also very good for me @restive sparrow
@thick trout It’s higher than the Jpz4, has better alpha and better gun depression.
Im in love with my WT atm so i would dispute that but its a solid tank
@restive sparrow WT auf Pz. IV is THE BEST german TD unequivocally
@wraith breach 2750dpm a tier lower, with speed and troll armour and you dont have to pay for it
@thick trout the WT Auf PZ IV?
Yep
@thick trout i don't think anybody will dispute your nickname
@wraith breach actually with rammer and provisions jpz4 can get 3265dpm
@stark siren noone has so far 🤷
Jpz4? The tier 6 German TD?
@thick trout your name must be tier for tier right.....
stats wise i think jagdpanther 2 is the best german td tier for tier because it has good armor
all the german tds have good guns so
Jpanther 2 armor is less than Ferdinand tho
Because then WT kicks.... Hard
@merry grove i would prefer to take my WT into a tier 10 battle than my grille
Ferdinand is slower and the casemate, which is usually the only relevant part, is pretty much the same
Jp2 has a much stronger casemate actually
@thick trout i think it's debatable... But not by me... I think both are good... I dont have them so i couldn't say which would be better
If I were to get jagdtiger, should I get jpanther 2 of Ferdinand?
jp2
@restive sparrow go with jp2
The grille just annoys me because of its awful camo, turn speed, frontal depression and lack of fully rotating turret. The WT is everything the grille is trying to be but with a worse gun
imagine the WT with an unextended pz iv chassis
@thick trout true that
@stark siren then it will be gorgeous lel
I have a question.... I need 169k for the 183 and the tortoise grind isn't so bad after you get the L1A1 gun.... You think the 183 is actually worth the grind? (except for the death gun)
the gun is the only reason people get the 183
I would like to try driving a 183 aggressively, just to see how well it works, but i am not going through that grind for an experiment
Trust me.... The grind is a nightmare
Except the at2 and the tortoise after you get the top gun
Im up to the AT2 and i dont really like it
Unfortunately it only gets worse, and it gets a lot worse
Ikr.... And the tumors on top only get bigger
And suddenly everyone loads prammo or just has good pen...
Exactly...
I know don't know if I should go for jagdtiger or WT now
@restive sparrowgo for both
Free xp the jp2s gun is all i can say
What?
Be a wallet warrior and get the guns for free
Or just save up free xp and use boosters
be a dumbo and do this
delet this
so you can get the tank and unlock the gun for free!
@night citrus i admire your bravery
Yep... Wallet warrior the heck out of the tanks
Does he break the rules?? He is helping with the conversation.???
jp2 is fine with the stock gun
hes breaking the unspoken rule of getting the gun first on a tank
I'll just go for jagdtiger, then grind out to get up to Rhm borsig. I don't need tier 10 players spamming HE while in a glass cannon WT for now.
You're actually grinding the 111 1-4 with a stock gun so you don't have to research the good gun? Wow 😂😂
i save time by not grinding an extra 59k exp
and I'm only doing it cuz imma be buying the wz120 soon
Should I sell my collector status tanks that I have aced to receive the gold for em especially with the low tier ones?
@loud depot Do you feel your enjoyment level of those tanks would be a higher enjoyment level for the tank you are putting the money towards? If so, then yes.
@night citrus you do NOT want to do the WZ-120 grind without that gun, what are you thinking??
I hate to see them go but new tanks of higher tier would be nice and after all I've already aced them so they served there purpose
?? that's why I'm grinding the wz110 and gonna research the wz-111 1-4 so I can unlock that gun
Well, I only buy tanks if I enjoy them, regardless of mastery status.
@night citrus Oh, thought you meant you were doing the WZ-120 stock grind to UNLOCK that gun on the WZ heavy.
LOL
that gun is what makes the tank, gun depression is annoying for sure, but the alpha damage is buckets of fun
should be raised a bit to about ~430 for better consistency, but still fun.
Is the French td line even worth grinding through? I know things seem to get better at the tier 8...
Yes
Yea its worth it
SU-122-44 vs T-34-2G FT?
SU 122
Is3 defender best tank of the game????🤔 🤔
Defender tank as in what
as in is3 defender 😛
Nah I dont think it is
It's really good, but not the best tier 8 HT for sure
I am super disappointed in the VK100, doesn't bounce a thing despite everyone saying the armor was OP
because you need to angle and hide the lowerplate now because it's really weak
The 183 needs to be buffed its not even a tank destroyer anymore
the vk 100 sucks now because IS tanks cried. the 183 should suck because you get the biggest gun in the game
Every tank is being made noob friendly
the 183 Hesh RNg hasn't been touched. Also you shouldnt be able to accuratley drop 1k dmg bombs
Hoping that the armor buff equipment will help make it viable
nope its paper. Even my type 59 can pen it frontally
my type 62 can pen it frontally
Maybe I should just scrap it and go the E100 line
the E-100 is worse than the maus
I just can't win
The Sp 1 c needs something done to it
As long as it doesn't get a serious buff it needs to be ignored
Just pretend it doesn't exist ..
Man, I really hope the T-34-3 hits the premium shop again, I LOVE the T-34-2.
Mauschen needs to be unnerfed
At15a or t2e3
T23E3
K
I want to see more American tanks
I want more tech tree tanks
The t32 is painful without the engine
I'm going for the at15a
T23E3
Hi guys... I'm grinding the 183 and I'm on the tort and the grind isn't so bad with the top gun so I'm nearly there.... Any tips about how to play with the 183??? Except camping and farming.... I actually want to help😂
Camp , farm repeat occasionally pushing up to frontline as a sudo heavy
Pseudo, you mean
Yea ^^
@merry grove pray you dont get spotted and gang banged by meds if you camp and then pray dont role 300 with hesh on a paper tank because thats a thing
Ok thx
My main tank type is tank destroyer and i have every single derp in the game and the 183 plays nothing like either one of those things. You are Baisically going to be the biggest target with the shittiest accuracy so you have to set your camo and pray someone doesn't spot you before you are completely aimed in or else your death is Baisically guaranteed
Ye i also like tds... Thats why i chose the 183 lol
you arent gonna be helping with the 183
But thx for advice hey
If you actually want to win with a TD play the obj 263.
I still find the Grille very relevant in tier 10.
Especially when going to base A in Canal.
I'm nearly to the E50M and the E-100
Some tips how i play the E 100???
Sell and buy is4 and just facehug e100s
Is4 armor is so bs
with that mobility mind you. The maus has bs armor too at times but it goes at 20 kmh. The is4 is much smaller and faster
Yeah ik I have the is4 and the bounces it gets is nonsensical
How is the KV3?
bad
tier 7 ruskie heavies are bad. Gun handling + bad pen
they don't have the bs level armor either that you start getting at tier 8
Oof.
I actually really like my IS though.
Been worried about trying the kv3 though. It's armor profile doesn't look too bouncy.
it isn't at all, only the KV-4 has some potential
Sidescrape your only option but turret still easy to pen
KV-4 worst T8 heavy
Ehhh
Maybe
Yes.
The current IS-4 is basically the whole meta of tier 10.
ok. Then how do I best survive the grind and keep my wr intact?
Free xp is a must
It does help that I've already got all the guns on the KV-3
Stock KV-4 and ST-I are absolute crap
grind as much free xp as possible before getting to ST-I
Emphasis on stock ST-1.
You're basically using a tier 7 gun vs tier 10 tanks.
how much free xp?
have u plyed the IS-3 yet
I have not
Ok. So I'll probially want to grind the shared modules on the IS3 then?
And the top gun on the IS-3.
why say "stock"?
i think he meant without equipment
@wanton egret he said stock, and stock means not to have all of the top modules. SU 122 44 does not have any researchable modules therefore it can not be "stock"
.... he knows, but since that cannot be the case, one would assume that he means without equipment. @pastel drum
we can never know unless he responds ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'd just call those "Un-equipped"
🤦
Comrad, you know what is the better tank of the world ? (I'mn't good in english)
KV-2
The firefly is fantastic, anyone that says otherwise is playing it wrong. As a support tank it’s literally the best medium in the game
question is the t62-A worth grinding?
@young junco the lttb line is a nice grind
good to know thx
@thick trout Grille has 1 second aim time and it's much faster and has super shell velocity and it has troll turret (gun is so big that sometimes you hit it with HE rather than the turret) ,also is much more accurate :3
Hey Paul 😆
what's the best equipment setup for the Löwe
I have the super pershing and im an aggressive player? Ideas for equipment and play styles to be successful?
My favorite premium tanks
They have a high alpha or high DPM (SU-122-44 have high alpha and high DPM)
I like that mediums with fast reload and russian TD's are so lovely
And no, i didn't get Sentinel's legendary camo
it's not legendary it's rare sigh pleb
What camo is the most cool?
In some tanks i don't buy ammo, consumables and provisions for save money
Because its expensive or because I'm not playing a lot with this tank
If I sold all my ammunition, consumables and provisions I would probably have +1mil credits
If i sold the ammo in my tanks that to be only premium I would get near around 3mil
I get more than 20k selling everything in my SU-100Y
I change it (didn't realize how much ammo costs) 10mill
Premium ammo costs fortune .....I usually used that for the equipment unlocking in my tier 10s
The most expensive thing in this game is credits I think
@hollow moth try the true devotee camo
it looks like fire
@pastel drum No, “stock” has multiple meanings, even Sk8xtrm calls no equipment tanks “stock”.
Which Russian TD line is better
ISU is better for big damage
Other line is better for dpm and mobility
The 268 one.....all the tanks are fun to play but save free xp for tier 8 Isu152(bl-10 gun) @bronze anchor
So, for a frugal free to play player, how much of the ARL is worth free experiencing and how much is worth grinding?
the 90mm gun is the best option but idk how far in that is
Just free XP the turret.
You wouldn't want to use the stock one.
The Chrysler K can bounce anything if used right
The Stock turret on the ARL is a literal bird house
Agree
more of a refridgerator but ok
SU-122-44 is fun imo
#FixPing (#FP)
The FT-AC’s turret looks like a box from the front for some reason... oh wait.
That's because it's just a gun shield and is more of a superstructure than a turret
What were they even thinking lol
Let's put a hv gun on this chassis that we have thousands of and cant afford to make a new tank
For a 20s-30s design that gun was more then adequate
At the time, yes. But looking back at it from 100 years ago from today is far different from the behemoth, dreadnought tanks we have now.
Funding was a big issue with France post ww1 for alot of reasons and was a political mess
That's an awful way of looking at tank design
And 100 years ago the ft17 was still a very modern and revolutionary design
It was a matter of trial and error, without that we would not have the tanks that would lead up to the ones of today though.
Yeah but if you compare a 90 year old design to a modern one and ofc there going to be completely different technologies have massively changed
Hence why you nred to look at it in it's time to get a true feeling about how the tank was
Definitely.
For 268 supercharge or GLD???
@fiery crown i run Supercharge
because the shell velocity is just so bad without it. pretty much on every other tank i run GLD.
Sherman firefly sucks , change my mind.
it's not that bad
It's not a panzer 4 schmalturm but it's good
Whispers : buff the M4A1 rev
It's a sherman with a 105mm gun at tier 8
You need to snipe in the sherman firefly for best results.
I play it like my pz 4 s lol
I flank and snipe a little with pz 4 s
If you run in like an idiot, you are going to die due to it's paper thin armor.
I never snipe in both tanks unless there're HTs just sitting across me
also the turret is pretty decent since it's not easy to hit
It has great pen, alpha, gun depression, but it has a high profile and also speed is meh for a tank that can be penned with HE frontally by a T49 @hollow moth
Also dpm is meh
You are talking about M4 rev, right?
Yep
it's a tank that can be penned frontally by HE from most tanks at tier 8-9
can be penned frontally by a T49 with HE
I don't think it's just the T49
It don't look like a good medium, @rigid thunder an ISU-152 pen HE easy
BL-10 stronk
Yeah but T49 is the most dangerous for a Rev because its faster than the rev
I wouldnt worry about heavies/Tds
It's better everyone have a big fear when they fight an ISU-152
Camping it kill a tier 10 easy
But our talk is about the French Sherman
Is there a place wherebwe can see the average winrate of all players with the Rev ?
Idk
@bronze rock blitzstars
Yeah i just checked
Its 51%
Maybe i should lower my winrate so that the average falls and WG buff it
I only hope the Challenger doesn't get a 17-pdr like when it first came out in PC.
it should have a 32pdr
hm yes fake tank
Tbh it's not even a good fake tank
It's a real tank, but he never fight
please don't tell me you're not joking
Lmao
#faketank
KV-222
It's as real as the ones in my sketchbook
When will we get the hms cabbage
Can we pls have some more french tanks in the next update
What are the lines you guys hate to grind???
Jagdpanzer E100 because Jagdpanther 2 and Jagdtiger are absolute crap when stock and it is just painful
Russian heavies , stock IS tanks are horrificly bad
I despise the 183 line....
Indien panzer route to the leo 1
The British TD line is the worst
By far brit tds are way easier for me
All comes down to play style. I really enjoy the chinese medium line, but it’s hated by many people after tier 7.
Is 4 when not having researched IS 3 and its top gun
The tier 8 chinese meduim was very fun
Not a line per se, but grinding SP I C to get to Ru251 was a slog
And any tier 9 to !0, 200k-300k XP not easy
Jpanther 2, or ferdinand?
@zinc smelt first sorry to ping you...
And yep i know that feeling i literally need 69k xp for the 183 and it's a hell of a grind
@merry grove I only went to at8 on that line. I'm at about 180,000 xp left for the FV215b, I have 205,000 free xp, but hate to waste lol
Trust me the at7 is worse.... The at15 stock is a nightmare and after the upgrades its meh with alright bouncyy.... The tortoise is an at15 with a stronger gun... I wanted to free xp it but... No lets go through the torture😂
But maybe you should free xp the 215b
?
Swedish artillery something
Found it it's the Bandkanon 1
Swedish SPG used between 1967-2003
I still say that the KV1 needs a slight nerf
Why
It literally clubs poor tier 4s(possibly including A-20) when they struggle to pen it anywhere
but other than that it's not OP at all tbh it could use a slight armour nerf either that or tier 4s get a penetration buff
nah KV-1’s are heavy tanks, all they have is their armour.
learn to flank heavies you can’t penetrate, you learn to do this in every tier afterwards as well, this is a common thing. better they face it at tier 5 than tier 6.
What’s y’all thoughts on the Chrysler K
I think it’s awesome when your not flanked or the enemy doesn’t see your lower plate
Stupidly good pen, 200+ damage, pretty much unpennable without aiming precisely
KV1 needs at least a slight damage and pen nerf on that upgraded turret
I think it's pretty weak. Maybe I'm just terrible with it. I get torn apart, never swrat while fighting it. And the only times i could get it to even try to work it was far more hassle than i wanted to deal with. Took it into a training room with a clanmate trying to figure out good angles and protecting all your weak points was a headache.
also the kv1 has stupid high dpm lol. Im not gonna say its op coz I almost never touch tier 5 anyway but its not like it only has armor
#152forKV5 start the movement
Tier X KV-10
KV-222
2
2
Kv-2
Hm hm fair point
heavy? med?
Heavy
heavy
ah.
Super heavy it’s a flipping land battle ship
🤔
interesting...
yep
it was produced, but pretty unreliable..
Pls add the M1A1 Abrahams as a new premium as well
@celest current making the T-35 a tier 7
the tank that is as armoured as a T-28, moves as fast as and is as big as a tog 2, has the gun depression of an LTTB, and has the penetration of a BT-7 Artillery
WG should add the Char FCM 2C into the game 😄
can you bring this tank back pls
Become a gift tank which is a premium vehicle who has been inside the game for 1 year...
yes=Y, no =N
@slender fern I sold it cause it was so bad I could not stand it
It traverses slow ,reload is slow,shell velocity is slow ,aim time and gun handling are bad,plus that has no chance against tier 6 tanks
Why'd you ever sell that? I rebought the Panzer IV G because I wanted to ge the VK 30.01 P and so far it's a very capable tank, I'd say one of the better tier 5s out there, along with the crusader. The tank has 2s aim time, a good reload for the damage it deals, and 8 degrees of gun depression. The traverse isn't horrible, and it stands plenty a chance against tier 6s
@rigid thunder I wish to see you dealing with a Cromwell or PZ IV S :P
IV S has 115% more DPM lol
2200 while IV G has 1018 at it's best
I don't. It's not your job to deal with tanks like those lol. Allow your teammates to soak hits or trade when the time is right
I think relying on team mates is a mistake 😦
you don't rely on them to deal damage, you rely on them to get dumb shields for you
Well fair enough PV IV with derp gun was infinitely better
And Crusader before nerf was the holy death of every tank
well now with the 75mm I'm doing better than I was with the 105mm for some reason
probs because now all tier 5s are weaker
STUG IV was a powerhouse
Remember guys blitz is a 1v13 game
These words are so wise
Well not all the time
1 in 5k battles you find a random team mate ,and you 2 play so well that you take down the enemy team only you 2
And then you never ever meet again for the rest of your blitz career
I had the pleasure to cooperate with not 1 ,but 2 team mates who literally all they did was to support me ,they sanctified at the final of the battle so I can survive
I've had a few of those in my 5.7k games, although majority were in draculas
Dracula needs to be buff
go away
I can't get 100% wr in it it's not good enough
@formal turret totally,is so crap 🤔
They need to buff comet as well ,it need's 20° of fun depression and extra 300 mm of turret armor ,maybe they can buff the reload to 2 seconds
yeah sure Maus needs buffs as well especially on the armour, 200mm isnt enough maybe 1000mm will do
KV-2 need buffs too like it's need a 152 clip gun 4 second clip reload and 0.1 between each shot also armor buff
@split wharftottalt will solve the problem ,and a 19000 hp engine and top speed buffed at 100 kn per hours
@zinc condor you don't want to improve Mona Lisa do you?
Yes, I would the current Mona Lisa looks ugly
Lol
19000hp and top speed up to 100km/h
OH YES
It's 19000 horsepower but ok
@zinc condor we don't want it to be OP right ? Fairplay
We need the 250mm Churchill
We need KPZ like it is in reality,if "historical accuracy" is important in this game
Introduce the Ratte, the 5x bigger maus. It's a 1000ton tank on blueprint made by the Germans
Tier 11
@ember atlas sure thing ,what maps is wide enough for that tank to perform a 360° 😂
No need for wide maps. The Ratte is so heavy that it will bog down
No bridge can hold it
@ember atlas who needs bridges if you are 100 or so meters long 😂 😂
i need help on how to play my leo pta? i have done many battles but i have not been very succesful. i understand that because of the amour i should to to be a 'long range flanker' but it just doesnt work since its aim time is bad and i just get spotted and along comes a t54 and wrecks me? any help?
@eager eagle I used it as a long range support tank ,never brawled in it,I also use calibrated shells on both tier 9 and 10 ,yes aim time is nothing ,tier 10 doesn't have such thing,I pick the distracted target and I shoot it then retreat ,if it follows me ,I lure him into my allies line of fire if not I am baiting him to shoot
@brisk orbit I played the thing fully upgraded,spent a lot of free xp 😅
it was stock @belive me that was bad @brisk orbit .thx for the help @dreamy lantern ,i will try that out.
Succes :D
Is the VK 100 armor ever going to be buffed?
Prob now, it is OK as it is now as it is actually pennable in the hatch and lower plate
The VK is a joke rn being its so weak
the only way to even use it is as a makeshift TD
So dont use it 🤷
And if somebody is looking to grind to the maus?
^
Then put up with it, its part of the grind
Vk100.01p is still good if played properly
@thick trout wow man ,you are so wise 😂
@fiery crown I like VK,it has giant flat sides ,it means I can just come around the corner and shoot it ,no need to aim in JP II,to be fair ,I don't think any tank at tier VIII can stand a chance against JP II
@dreamy lantern ofc i am 😇
I have enough xp already 😎
@solid gate world of tanks blitz should have a tankopedia like the other games on a website.
i see, thx
The mauschen needs a it’s lower plate to be buffed
It has worse armor that the vk 45b and e75
And it’s bigger than both
@woeful pumice You faked LXN Clan names
@woeful pumice both the Mauschen and the VK need their lower plate buffed
What are LXN clans names? @wraith depot
@bronze anchor both VK and Mauschen suck ,E75 for the win
But the ultimate goal is the Maus, which is why it sucks that they made the VK and Mini Maus so bad
@solid gate well for Wot:tanks.gg
For WotB:blitz hangar
@bronze anchor I one plan to never grind the Maus or death star
Or anything that involves suffering or boring gameplay
@woeful pumice for example:TheDiamondDude, TheRedlineDude, TheMadRNGesusDude, TheGoldenDude
Oh lol
My username is just my minecraft user name
I made my account when I was young
With SU-122-44 in fifty battles i winned 31, survived 20, 47 enemies destroyed and 57.990 damage
My survive rate is low but other stats are good for a meeh player like me
In 3 battles is ez
It was 1600 but sometimes i can't hit because the aim is not good
So a quick look at the KV-3 tells me all the guns are pretty much trash. Which gun have y'all had the most success with?
The 122mm is a great gun. And after I maxxed the tank today and added rations I’m pleasantly surprised by how good this tank is
I just got the T32. Will I like it?
Turret is op.
Depends if you like me
SU100 is good at Agressive
They should add the bishop at t6
Is the m48patton good?
I've heard its pretty good
Ok,im wondering about buy it or no
Itll be my first t10
I've heard both
The T-54 was better but now it's still a really good MT
I just got the ACL 46 what should I expect
Hey guys I have a question, for experienced players, I usually find other MT’s gun more accurate than 4202 in tier10 based on my experience. Is it actually true?
Anyone know what that insignia is called? (Not the roundel but the white three-leaved clover-like symbol)
@tulip sail you mean AMX AC 46 ?
@lavish peak a fleur-de-lis
kind of
maybe not, yeah its not lol
well, its either a club like on a playing card, or a 3 leaved clover
idk
I think T-34-85 Rudy a little bit rude with his enemies
Need a warn or ban
Do you understand the joke? Rudy and rude
Ok I'm stopping
nah, keep talking
@calm inlet Yeah it also has a crooked arrow facing outward. Mystery mystery.
interesting
I regret spending all my xp to get the Vk72.01k
Is it as bad as they say?
@dreamy lantern lol yeah idk why it auto corrected that
@tulip sail well stock is pure disease of a tank ,fully done is superb ,after you fully done it ,doing 3k is east with 10° of fun depression,and that upper plate combined with 10° it's super thick ,but stock is God awful ,it's a punishment and mental torment to play it stock,and the damn 90 mm is the same like on ARL 44 with the same name ,with the same shells name but worse in every aspect
Ah ok
the VK 72?well like using it, especially when i finally found how to play the VK.
it is almost the same as M6 EXP gameplay. the VK is not meant to sidescrape anyway, but its lower hull plate is almost as sturdy as its upper hull plate.
@earnest light to compensate its HESH DPM
i have a question should i go to the Maus or the Vk 72
@fallen fractal it’s really sad when I aim and misses while enemy MTs can hit me when running and shoots ;-;
@young junco i would prefer the maus
@earnest light yes even the sluggish E 50 M feels faster i think, never played 4202 before so cant say much
It looks good thou
@young junco i would go for E100. Maus-like armor with VK big gun.
@everyone How much pen a MAUS gives while equipped with Callibrated Shells?
And how much it cost
How to make a cute mauschën, change my mind
@dreamy lantern👌
@hollow moth well mauschen doesn't have the exhausts at the back 😁
@solid gate which is meh,E 100 has 271
But it's cool a mauschen with this!
@hollow moth don't doubt that ,since I am trash at art I can't judge :)
@dreamy lantern but poor accuracy and huge lower glacious plate
@solid gate it has 0.321
Bit high than Maus
And lower glacus might be big but is 240 ,after you add angling is much better
@dreamy lantern actually i don't like it's stupid tarret. YOU need to be a pro if you want to bounce shots
@solid gate with Maus,not really a pro
Every heavy and TD can pen it from front
With E 100 is even easier
@solid gate well 240 mm of flat armor doesn't bounce a lot ,even angled ,you need to wiggle
Well E 100 has some weak Spots too while side scrapping
@solid gate?? That side armor is over 300 mm think when it's not steeply angled
And I don't know everyone use HEAT when they saw a German Heavy
@solid gate everyone use skill rounds when they see something they can't pen ,that's why you wiggle the turret
@solid gate meh,they are different,in some parts yes they are sister ,but E 100 has much better upper plate ,Maus' upper plate can be penned by TD's with 300 mm of pen ,ending loaded HEAT,like butter
You can go through E100's upper plate with 420+mm of pen
Unangled
Yep.
So that's why I never bothered to play the maus :-)
@solid gateindeed is mine ,everyone has his prefencess 😁
So if you like Maus more ,it's your preference
New topic:VK best superheavy
@chilly jetty interesting ....why?
With huge repair cost lamo
@dreamy lantern personal opinion, most flexible (lightly stated)
One mins I need to show you something @chilly jetty
@chilly jetty is it that mobile ?
I gotta confront that schieße that VK.45.02B is and get that VK
After that I will never ever play that VK.45.02B again
Check out the stats and ""repair cost.
@solid gate ground resistances as pretty nice
It's an opie tanks.
I mean VK has good armor, good HP, and good gun... not the best in any category, but it can do everything all the others can, but it can also do other things
Also tarret traverse is better than maus and e100
As long as u do it correctly, armor is arguably better than the others
Constantly wiggling and never giving straight angle
I have all 3 and I'm just partial to VI
Only works in front wiggling but from side it sucks
I can pen VK from every direction though in any tier ten tank
I have seen that only mediums and some heavy got Ricochet from it but most of the time it gets hit from sides
E100 > VK imho
👌
Eh, just a matter of how u do it
Low repair cost .... Much handy... Not hard to play---The legendary E 100
But VK's tarret is really hard from front. Not easily penable
Bsr Y a-t-il quelqu’un qui parle français lol
So who watched Naruto from here ?
Hey! WG guys because they do not put this tank as a premium tank? It was a prototype of France in 1940 😂
Why u dis france like that :\
i don't see the white flag
but it has more gears in reverse so it may be french
Ok let's not make fun of a country here 😁
So, in order not to make fun, WG could put it in the hybrid nation, in the end it's just a fantasy tank
@woven kayak I like your thinking ,hibrid nation it is,filled with the most balanced tanks
#Smasher
#Dracula
#Helsing
The valkyria tanks are also balanced
I wonder when the next Valhalla sales is...
Guys the chance to get Cromwell b out of a season container is what
SU-152 firing sound is awesome
@knotty vale its something tiny like 1 or 2% i think
Theres no point trying to get it, you might as well get the small containers so you get more boosters
@thick trout shush you pessimist,he might have a chance 😂
The ammount of booters you get from the same ammount of crates to get the brom is massive
Is the su bundle worth the gold?
Yes
@dire sky it's very worth, two very good premiums with all equipments, a lot of boosts and premium account for a tier 5 premium tank price
Buy it if you can
Ok I will soon thank you
The AMX AC 46 is slowly killing me
Give the IS-4 the D-25T again!
I love my su100y to this day
Should i buy a 10.5cm Pak to JagdPanther?
Leopard 1, light or medium line?
prolly light
light line gives you experience in lightly armoured and fast PT A and Leo 1
sell all of my tanks and get the e50?
@tulip sail told you :P ,I experienced the same torment
@bright current you mean Jagdtiger ,and it has a holy God like DPM,5.9 seconds reload for 310 alpha ,and the armor matters at tier 8 in jagtiger,poor little tier 7 tanks (most of them) will struggle to pen your lower plate with skill rounds ,while you 4 shot them with a trip to the garage ,this is what I think about Jagdtiger 8.8(but 99% uses 105)
@zinc condor I went light route ,except tier 7 which is not a wow tank,the line is extremely fun to play ,especially HEP rounds on RU 251
@full kiln you could have just said E 50 ,and if you have some free xp for engine,turret,105 mm yes go for it
@dreamy lantern pretty sure he means the Jagdpanther mate, the tank has a 10.5cm gun that's researchable. He's asking whether or not it's better than the 8.8cm PaK 43
I haven't heard anyone saying Jagdpanther 105 so far :/
Well I still use the 8.8 or perma-tracking and DPM
105 is not that consistent for me ,I low roled 9/10 shots so I decided to put the 8.8 back
It has a 105
I know ,I finished the line long time ago
@dreamy lantern I mean JagdPanther
Oh,use what gun you like the most ,I like 8.8 more ,it has 2.3 second better reload than 105
8.8 has 3k DPM with nice everything ,+ that it's historically accurate ;)
Defender is out ,prepare the credit cards ,you will need 424 mm at least to go through it's upper plate unagled 😶 👌
Is defender worth getting???
yes because it's really armoured
@fiery crown well how to put this thing ,it's the holy definition of Pay-to-Win
This thing is like 2 years old on PC ,yet people still think is OP cause of super armor,mobile,has 225 pen like an IS 3,Tiger II,and has 440 alpha ,not 390 like IS 3 has
Let me post a short video here to summarise up how good it is
It's really good on PC, arguably the best T8 prem HT but in the hands of a good player, the Progetto 46 is far superior
@rigid thunder auto reloading Spaghetto
Its for sale or on fk... Crates?
For first time I hope a tank is in crates
So less people are gonna get it so more fun remains at tier 8
If it's not for crates pray people are dumb and expose the weak lower plate which is quite weak if you don't agle it ,around 170 mm
A 7/1 an in the future Charioteer will butter through it with HESH ,if not pray you hit the tiny cupola it has
Yeah, every tank Has weak points, even 252u
@past heron but this has 2 frontally,than can be hidden easily (lower plate on Himmelsdorf)
Yep, the plate is easy to hide, but you always can hit cuopla, while you are close, and over him
And on the distance-you can hope he miss bc of accuracy
Anyway I agree it Will be bst tier VIII HT
So I just recently got the leopard 1, and I was wondering what a good play style for it would be. I was thinking it would be like the E25, finding a good spot then doing a few shots then find another spot, etc.
It costs 44€ ,I am free to play so no fun for meh
Also it's very low to the ground so it ain't super hard to pen
@elfin meadow I play it like this:spot,fall back,find someone who is distracted circle him ,shot him,if he is an IS 4 stay away ,repeat
Okay. Thanks!
Should I go for the Löwe?
I wasted like 400€ and yeah, i wont spend anyomore
Its very good yea i recommend it also + that discount it's worth the gold
Okay ty
I’m looking forward to the Mauerbrecher tho...
I would like to point out the sell limit on vehicles per day and I would like it to be removed as it is very annoying thx
My first medal in the Löwe, and I didn’t even camp
@haughty void I like Löwe a lot ,the bank of Germany
@past heron I wasted a mind blowing 0€/£/$/ and I still had fun and still been effective ,had to give this to QB and Dez for teaching me to play every class and every tank
@dreamy lantern money doesnt give buy you skill, they give just quicker progress
For eg, one hour playing on Lowe with prem (no cred boost) gave me 892k credits
bob semple or I eat grass
@past heron indeed it doesn't give any skill ,but long time ago when skill rounds were doing just as much damage as regular rounds,you could just tap the 2 key and instantly become a skilled dude,there is where paying gave you an advantage
A little bit true, i had type 62 on this era, and 250mm pen, 200 DMG , and 4.7s reload (idk exactly) were so OP
*during
Is4 needs to move to T7
You're not ready for T10 then
They should add Japanese heavy tanks on the game
no
@calm stratus,I am sorry to inform you that you are not ready for tier X as @ruby star said ,you will find death star doing up to 1400 per HESH if it opens
@vapid tinsel those tanks are made to fire gold at ,or they will buff the pen on every medium to 280 mm+ on standard rounds
I really hope the 252 ends up like the Chrysler K
Should we start calling the 252U the Mobile Gulag?
Too expensive /:
The 252U is so op 😂
How much is the new tank
@rancid mauve 50 bucks equipped +avatar, 45 not equipped
Btw, the 252U has buffed dpm from its pc variant, a friend and I compared the stats side by side, and the Blitz version definitely has more dpm by like 200 hp
it has a worse armour profile, lower plate is 60mm less effective
(also the PC variant has the 252u's 122mm gun have 440 alpha over the typical 390 alpha of tier 8 122 guns, here the difference is 20)
@jade geyser yes, the PC variant has 20 more alpha damage but 1 sec worse reload
Not 200, just 20 more alpha, but the dpm of the pc one is worse by 200 hp
@jade geyser yeah, sorry. Made a typo
All good 👌
how to play T-44 stock