#vehicles-discussion
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Like the pc version
Yes
its more realistic
Sorry but world of tank it's not realistic because it's an arcade
If you want something realistic war thunder is good for you
Yes i know but on pc the gun move when you shoot so its possible to add this in wot blitz ?
Ohh this
is the second Turret on the Leo PT A worth getting?
Gun move... no i don't know how to do this
Yes my traduction is not good i know 😂
I thinked it's make a bigger circle
But that recoil i think it's not possible in blitz
Whyyy 😭 😭 😂
Yes and we can switch off or on in setting
just a question, why in this game we have the t28 and the t95 while they are the same tank?
a t28 is just a t95 without a second track
Lol
Lol yes because america
The style is a little bit different and t95 have more armor, but ya they look like the same
And still looking like a chocolate bar
@raven jacinth fully upgraded Leo PTA is a beast, so yes go get that turret
but how does it look like with other turret, also does it increase depression?
The T28 is fake tank in Blitz. They removed on set of tracks and added a stupid slab of armour on the front superstructure
would by nice if it wwas the TS-5 instead, the tier 8 premium american TD that's on PC
No it doesn't @raven jacinth but it does improve DPM
Plus aim time too. It does make a little bit heavier so I guess turret traverse is a bit slower, but that's a small prize to pay for the added DPM ad gun handling
that's some decent dispersion and aim time improvements
strange...
It will be good in world of tank
you can get that joy on WoT wargaming version 👀 not the Blitz one
Super Pershing's armor is strange but good
You need to do a little side scraping because it's not a tiger P, but the side armor is useless
So, there is a question:
Do you want to get some hits in hull out or get some hits with style?
But at the same time an angle is good for you
If your enemeny have a low pen, side scraping is perfect
But when you fight an ISU, you don't have a lot of options
the matilda's armor is to strong. i can not pen a matilda with the 85mm D5S 85BM on my su 85
You can pen it with A20 HE
lmaoo
but not with a tier 5 td
That's why you play the A20 over the tier 5 td
M4 fl10 looks awesome
@formal turret you still playing tier 4 ( A 20) and not another tiers
The a 20 has more HE pen than the KV2
@limber dawn mission says win 12 battles in a light tank
@formal turret you have tier5 lights to
that's your choice the hole time only playing with A 20 @formal turret
@limber dawn my only other light is Bt7 art which is inferior to the A20 and the Ru251 whom I tried playing last time and had horrible teams
that's wotb @formal turret
srry for my little trigerd i'm a little bit salty @formal turret
okay
so stop seal club and go farm stats at t8+ @limber dawn
Why do i feel like a long time ago ive been in a tier 3 to 7 game
So fun playing panther 2, best buy when fully upgraded with 100% crew
especially going 60km/h and ramming SP IC’s AMX 13’s Ru 251’s lmao
M48 patton also fast
100k exp left before i get my first tier ix
You don't wanna see that in your backyard.
Can the T95E2 get a turret Amor buff no point going hull down if the enemy's just shoot the turret not even the cupla
Can someone tell me how to sidescrape properly because I want to bounce shots on my kv 1
Kv 1
The upper Pic has show you how to sidescrape
@knotty vale pic number one show the first and the second tank, the first is exposed to shoots because he isn't doing side scraping, the second is protected because is doing side scraping
@knotty vale you need to do a little angle, watch a video is good
I played 481 games with my kv-1
I’m a god with it
I’ve bounced so many shots it’s insane
I usually only get penned 1-2 times per round
@knotty vale I can help u with KV-1
It's me in my T14
No tier 5 can beat me in my KV-1
4 aceds, more than 200 battles, more than 55% victory
Imma check mine
After low tier nerfs kv1 is average, t14 beats it every time ez
I have 481 battles on it, 700 avg damage and 54%
T14 doing side scraping in a city map is impenetrable
While I’m the driver of the KV-1 no one can beat me even t14
I can side scrape while moving
Lmao who do you think you are? 😂😂😂
I know I’m the master of KV-1’s
Pff
U r the master of kv1s but i have the best tank of tier 6
Good luck if you see my pz 4 s
Thank
Friend req me and we 1v1
Sooo.... I have just had my best game thus far in my JPanther.... .-. at only 1461 damage done.... but it was a T8 game and I took no damage..... but still... I think it's fair to say I don't quite get this tank's playstyle.... anyone willing to give me pointers?
Server?
I’m in. NA
Eh I'm EU, guess it ain't happening
😂👌
Ok well
@limpid berry i see you are being very modest there
tbh I am in NA and while I see some toxicity.... it isn't as bad as you'd expect.... .-.
Hello, I have a question. Does the kv2 deal more damage that the Su100Y?
Yes
Does it matter? Both are Russian
@solid gate the KV-2 has higher alpha but worse accuracy, reload, and penetration
The penetration isn't so important because you can make a good dmg using only HE
And HEAT
Yea but reload takes forever just to do 300
That's how a kv2 kill a maus
No true
The kv 2 cannot kill a maus as even on he heat or ap the maus would be red even most of the rear
I have a question, so which tank is ‘better’ the e100 or maus?
@hardy cave there is no "better" tank, there is only "better fit for your style"
If you are really good at side scraping maus
But e 100 is good too
In the end you just need to know how to sidescrape
And how do I do that?
Or your just a free hp target
@knotty vale i will show a video, 7 kv2 killing 3 maus
just google "sidescrape" there should be tons if not piles of tutorial about how that works
Does it work at tier 5?
https://youtu.be/v97dL0lzJLA @knotty vale
------------------------------------------------------------------ FRANCAIS Salut à tous, Nouveau Face off qui annonce du lourd ! 3 Maus VS 7 KV2 qui remport...
it works with tanks that has good side armour
Ok because I’ve been trying to do it but it’s not working
over time you should be able to know that what tank you can sidescrape in, and what tanks you can't sidescrape in. There are also stuff you have to look out while you are sidescraping
Ok thank you
it's better to learn them one by one - I've been through that a long time ago - but all the learning was worth it, since now I am able to apply this knowledge to make me effective in all sorts of environments
What are the main things to learn?
memorize the rough characteristics of each tank you are going to meet, and the tank you are driving as well
it's going to come in handy for you to make decisions
Ok and how do I set a tank on fire? Is it just chance?
Yes it's by chance
What’s the %?
Any crew / module damage is by chance
I can't remember well just wait for another guy to answer you
Ok
Any tips on LTTB? Its super fast but pen is kinda low
@hardy cave Hit the engine, all modules have a chance to take damage and then, I believe this is how it works, if the engine does take damage it has a chance to be set on fire that ranges from 10-20% i think
What’s good about it?
@solid gate
Good pen good damage and HE damage is just lovely
@time#4418 ??
E100 hits nothing
Lol
Its just the Playstyle
whats better mauschen or VK4502b
vk45b has better armor and mobility and rof
Um
the only thing the mauschen can do better is overangle in sidescrapes and it has slightly better gun handling
Mauschen has better armor
You can block a grille and jageroo
Iv done it just by angling
not really. The vk has a small cupola so turret armor is better clearly and the lower glacis is better as the mauschen lower plate is paper after th enerf. The mauschen does have a better upper glacis but no one aims at that anyway
True but mauschen is so big and imposing most dont even try to attack head on
more like it has a bad gun and bad mobility so might as well avoid it and kill it at the end
Vk 100 feels bad for some reason
Nooo
it probably can troll at its tier but against same tier heavies i personally struggle
Vk is awsome in my oppinon
well my only problem that makes the tank okish is the low Hp
E100 has similar armour but has 2nd highest hp in game
Maus basically a Vk at t10 highest hp in the game :/
Unexpected development
..... Why
@bright meteor @Maveric
Lol
U just ruined the movie man
Bruh :/
Thanks
@calm inlet ban this dude
:/
is Iron Man a vehicle?
Yed
@calm inlet
Lol why
Because u just spoiled
Ive always wanted an E100 but i cant really pen.....
Spoilers get you muted I think
stop
When i was trying to makr a joke
everyone just stop
Will i didnt know that
Ok
Oof
F
F
Amx cdc fast boi
What is the best tier 5 tech tree tanks?
AT 2 is strong if played right, M4 is good, Churchill is fairly good, KV-1 is strong, Stug is good
kv-1, use the 122mm
@jade geyser I liked the Pz IV G, it was a good overall tank
Hey, are you guys ever going to include some newer tanks into the lower non-premium tiers? It gets boring playing the same tank over and over.
🤔 the only tier without premiums is tier 1
My apologies, I meant as non-premiums.
proof that 5.5 was a mistake
I have a tank idea. May I post it here?
Is it a historic tank?
It is, but it was a prototype.
I'm interested
If one of the admins gives me permission to post it, I'll share it.
I post about historical tanks quite often and if your that worries put it in #off-topic-discussion
Should I get the K-91 or wait for something else?
wait for 252u to come
Why can't the lower tiers have new non-premium tanks?
bc that would require to add more lines which was the reason 5.5 happened, to lower the amount of choices newbies had to choose
Sadly, they removed the Amx 40
I have it
don't worry it still sucks
I still have my dw2
I have a UC-2 pdr
Alguien que hable español?
Ingles, por favor.
Amx cdc fast boi
84k expericence left to research the E 50, then i’ll need to grind 3.5 mil.
What is good low tier silver grind tank
Not like tier 3
BDR G1B
T34
Guess the only tier 7 tank that can pen the T29 mantlet... (And it might not actually work, just going off what armour inspector...)
Sturer emil?
Nope
SU100M1 with HEAT (not sure tho coz spaced...)
Su100M1 with that op 330mm of pen on heat
Yup
Finally unlocked the E100
time to uninstall game
Still need some creds though
@solid gate Why is that?
@solid gate ofcourse, Stalin will guide it
They should add a cross over of the mauses turrent with the e100 bodys as a tier 10 collector tank
thats literally e-100
ic
No
With a diffrent turrent thats what the e100 was supose to be
Or they should add it as a reaserchable turrent that u can only use the 128mm for
Yeah, which is why he said it's literally an E-100
Anyone agree
Mauerbrecher?
Sooo I was playing in my JPanther the other day and had a laugh bullying this AT-15 (I had support but my support was more like just extra armor because they couldn't shoot yo save their life) t7 TD easily punting the poor UK's T8 TD because my standard rounds could slice clean through the gun mantlet .-. and while this is a bit of a long story it is all to ask a question.... are the British TD's worth the grind? (I can't see liking the AT-15 with that glaring weakness)
the 183 is meant to be a fun tank, but you won't really be helping your teams win, but the AT-8 and AT-7 are especially bad
I figured they'd be bad.... am only at the AT-2.... which is fun-ish..... but not great for winning.....
yeah but the thing is is that you are so slow the enemy team can just focus on the rest of your team, and save you for last.... if they do that, you're boned....
The heck the crusader is the only Lt in the british?
All the others were banished to the shadow realm, so yeah
Rip those other bristish tanks
Is the 183 still worth it?
not as much as it used to be
Tonny have your done your your new movie
Funny thing but he is dead
way to toss a spoiler lol
Yep
Xd
Engine tier means nothing
Not for made up tanks @calm stratus but when it comes to tech tree tanks, they give a good indication of what to expect
KV-2 Defender REEEEEEEE
Imagine loading 3 152’s in 15.2 seconds
like one shell every 5 seconds
@solid gate there have been unconfirmed and possibly unreliable rumours of the entire french light line getting an extra shell, but it will not be too soon
I have a big plan for buy a tier 8 premium tank, who the best?
Löwe, a german heavy tank, good turret and perfect cannon, agility and hull armor isn't so good
IS-6, a russian heavy, solid turret but the cannon is very meeeeh, hull armor is useful and agility is good for the armor
Super Pershing, american medium tank, hard turrer and a cannon with a good pen, aim is a little bit bad and trash agility, hull armor is very good, a little side-scraping is a good choice
I have all of them and the lowe is probably the best option
Go for Lowe ...its slow at top speed end but has excellent traverse awesome gun accuracy and penetration and good armour and good gun depression.....I would say it is borderline OP
@hollow moth if you want credits go for the lowe, but if you want an interesting tank go for something else
I have the Lowe and it is one of the best purchases I’ve made in the game. Brilliant tank that fits my play style in heavy tanks.
Super Pershing boils my blood as it is the most trollish tank (my opinion) in tier 8. Stupid armour that bounces everything even if the hull and turret is grey (I’m aware of the spaced armour). I really enjoy taking them out in game.😂
I watched some videos of the Super pershing and saw some pics of his armor, in 4 player's answers, Löwe is a big heavy and the cannon is the best of the tank
It's a hard question, hull out with good armor or aim with high pen and good dmg
Lowe the best
^
Super Pershing is terrible
I don't think so Maverick, his front armor is better and it's hard hit his weak points, the good pen with the good reload on the side make a good DPM
The turret traverse is frustrating on super Pershing
It's so sluggish that it's disgusting
Then stop thinking of it as a medium
its a heavium
Super P is more heavy than medium
it's a poor heavy and a poor medium. The best you can do with it is be a roadblock against other meds, kinda like hold a flank. But that only works against downtiered or same tier meds so big rip.
But why don't play like a heavy?his armor is solid, frontline with other heavy tank and some support isn't a bad idea
Use you armor for block hits like a heavy
I just hate when people reffer to tanks as he/she...
I hate a lot of things too, but we are talking about super pershing stats vs lowe stats, and no about how we call a big piece of metal with a cannon
I legitimately think they could not have made the KV2 stock turret any worse
You cannot compare sp to a lowe, there's no point in that
The reload is atrocious and the only useable ammo is ridiculously expensive
Sp's frot armor is better, lowe's gun is better, they don't have a good agility but they are very dangerous
You just said sp has better armor than lowe??
Lowe has no weakspots except lower plate which is still decent
Lower plate is massive and hatch on top aswell
Super Pershing works against those who don't know how to pen and fight it head on ....you can circle it in open ground and the bloom on super Pershing is awful ......the turret is full of weak spots
@fiery crown full of weak spots but it's very hard hit then
The weak spots are too easy to hit bar Russian derp guns....I would rather use Pershing than this ....the only redeeming factor is credit coefficient
In Portuguese wg channel on youtube, they maked a test, they shoot 10 times in one sp's weak point
But it missed some shoots
Maybe 6 or 5, i forgot the correct number
I regret buying 2 premium tanks wz111 and Super Pershing....both the tanks I hated
Does full ISU-152 have a bad aim?
Buy Super Pershing if you like it
never buy a Super Pershing, you will regret it
^^
Like I am now.....least played premium in my garage ....I wish they make it collector so that I can sell it for gold
But I play it in mad games ....its OP there
My ex-clanmate sold t28 defender
What?
Ok, maybe your ex-clanmate is a little crazy
@pastel drum this year i will buy sp, if i regret this choice, i will talk to you
The hole clan got triggered when she said she sold it
I sold my grave digger to get Invincible camo for 121b....call me crazy
GD is kinda trash so it's justified
or you could just buy the camo but you do you
Ohh this people is more than crazy
I'm thinking grave digger op and people call it trash
How is it op explain pls
It's a machine gun with a big armor
A face to face with a grave digger it's not good
even t8 tanks will bounce 1/2 shots with gold if the gravedigger knows how to play, and the gun is terribly annoying
The Super Pershing is a formidable opponent. If you are good at reading the map you will only be better then average. You will never regret buying it but you will get bored of it because it is slow
@left anvil that's what I'm trying to say for that crazy guys
scavenger isn't op x), there are way more dangerous things, such as the kv1
@bright raft nah the Scav is really really good at T5, it's super hard to pen and deals 250+ typically
last time i played t5 was before the low tier destruction so without big guns that existed before, i don't know how it works x)
Gravedigger does well in top tier matches but in bottom tier it is so easy to take out...the turret cheeks are easy pen with gold shells .....
@bronze anchor are you really playing scavenger with the derpy gun???
Nah, I'm just saying it was an annoying tank to face. I don't even have it
better to use the 150 alpha gun imo
Ya
Better pen, better reload and i think the DPM is better too
I don't know if I'm right
But i think the DPM is better
before we had the mighty pz4h to play with a big gun at t5 but wg destroyed low tiers so using a "derp" on the scavenger is the only way to have a big alpha in t5
I think the m6a2e1 needs a turret buff
What do y'all think of this picture of a super is7
Dang
Is it even real?🤔
Lmao Op
that big lower plate tho
It has attached armor everywhere the lower plate is spaced and is thicc the back of the turret looks longer maybe more spaced armor
nobody mentions the konakt-1 ERA
i think the kpfpz70 could use another 2 deg of gun depression so that it can use its good turret more effectively
The soviet tank i played the most is the kv2
I’m struggling, I just unlocked the VK 30.01 P and I can’t penetrate anything and I’m only doing 145 dmg
that's bc the stock 75mm is the top gun on the PZ4 G
Vk30P is very troll fully upgraded tho
But how do I play effectively before that?
How do I do that?
@pulsar remnant.stalins dream
@hardy cave since mobility is bad keep close to cover and dont vernture too deep but try to keep most of enemy fire off your mediums (to you if needed)
@vital chasm yep enough to make the motherland shed a tear of proudness
Lol
Amx and m4 combine
Amx m4 49
When will they put the T49a back for sale?!🤔🤔
No God, No God Pls No, No
Since this just dropped onto ArmorInspector, I thought I’d show you guys this. This is the WZ 113G-FT looking at the OBJ 252U on blitz with HEAT and Calibrated Shells
This is the same tank looking at the IS 7
I'm emptying my entire wallet for the 252u
wg: welllllll
#balanced_t8_russian_tank
That upper plate angle on the 252u looks ridiculously steep
Now, since I have recieved some feedback for this, specifically "just shoot the lower plate, SMH" Here is a side-by-side with a T-54, one of the lowest to the ground tanks in the game...
sounds simple...as long as it is completely facing you...and is on completely flat ground...and its decently close...
252U... the personification of Russian bias 😂😂
@short raptor or if you're really tall, you can shoot down on the front plates and pen them
@calm inlet sure...
Hope it won't be in crates...
never mind, its still basically 330mm effective
Lol
Only “balancing” element of the tank other than the cupolas is absolutely atrocious DPM, around 1600
there is 0mm of armor behind the mantlet, and its about 280mm of effective armor
Of course it is, its everything same from normal WoT expect lower plate at hull
you can shoot through the mantlet with a gun that has over 280mm of pen
So...with all of like 1 HT and 4 TDs at the tier with that kind of pramo pen
Tier VIII heavies and TD's, and Tier 9's can pen
Smart players won't let you pen easily 😂
@full kiln KV-2 Defender would have 12s reload, and clip reload long enough to make the original's DPM look fantastic
it'll become Tier VIII meta in tournaments most likely
idk why WG is bringing that cursèd thing upon this game
Maybe, DPM might hold it back a bit in tourneys
@narrow rampart well, then there's T110E5 engine vs M6 engine, and M6 has the best engine in the American tree
Cuz money, its company...?
Well @latent bronze here’s the problem with that rationale. Games like WoTBlitz which are being constantly worked on need a constant stem of money, the best way to do that is to build player trust in the company so players play longer and are more willing to spend money and the longer a person plays, the more likely they are to spend money (statistically). When WG does things like release OP tanks for short-term cash grab, sure, they make a lot of money in the short term, but will lose long term players, and will have problems keeping long-term players in the future
So, yes, they may earn money in the short term, but stand to lose income over a much longer period of time
Welp I just grab what I can
I'm playing this game since it got out tho, never had any problems when OP tanks were added in game
Just learn how to play against it playing smart, and you will do well
Welp, when a tank goes in store it's either too weak and people should get this or that tech tree tank instead or if it's too op so don't get it but everyone gets it anyways because well, it's op...
Sure, but the rationale of my argument still stands. Overall, a game will do better financially the more trust it has from its players, and especially from long-time players. This doesn’t only apply to putting in OP tanks, it also applies to things like 5.5 where several professional clans quit in protest. I guarantee you around 80% of those players had spent money on this game and probably around half had spent more than $100.
@short raptor Agreed.
Not saying you're wrong and I know my point doesn't have a reason to be in the argument at all but just wanted to point it out
Of course, and you experience is valid. There are several players like you, but they are such a tiny minority, with very few of you even left in the game. Proportionally, you guys do have a larger impact on the game than the other groups in the player base because there are people like sk8xtrm, Bushka, and I believe Meadsy who have all been playing the game since around it released
But numerically, even they can be a little insignificant. For example, let’s say because of 5.5, let’s say 2,000 people quit, in total across all servers. Of those, let’s say half were likely to spend 50 dollars the next year. Then 100 dollars the next, then 150 dollars the next. Over a 4 year period, WG has lost revenues equaling around 500,000 dollars. And I am semi-sure those are conservative numbers.
@short raptor hey .... why u no mention me?
Agreed though on all the points you raise even if I think the short term sales do more than enough to keep people hooked onto the game
@narrow rampart well, hello m8! I do agree somewhat with that, and I do really like that they have special deals all the time now, that actually does keep me checking the game.
Honestly forgot about you, sorry.
And it's those special deals, the containers, the missions, the events etc that keep people hooked into the game. I doubt WG are just releasing stuff at random times. They have a cunning marketing strategy that does work - even if the numbers of players is dropping over their titles.
You see Console gets those Mercenary tanks and now on PC the T-103 has been released as well. I think that might come to Blitz at some point in the future too.
But again, those deals aren’t necessarily a bad thing. I’m talking about deals that erode the player base’s trust in the company. Such as when the Smasher was released. When you have a really OP tank in a tier, it can change the meta which people have a particular dislike for (I personally don’t, but most seem to hate when the meta gets up-turned) and can act as an effective nerf on an entire tier. It can be frustrating when you bought another premium tank, for example, and if a better one that is basically the same comes out (insert all Tier 8 IS premiums here) you may be understandably frustrated and may refrain from buying premium tanks in the future. A great example here might be between the IS-6 and the OBJ 252U, as they are more similar than the other IS tanks, like sharing a turret and top speed. Why bother with an IS-6 when you could get an OBJ 252U? It’s in situations like those that this becomes a problem. Again, with normal sales with tanks that are relatively balanced, such as the AMX M4 49, this is not so much a problem
The Smasher isn't even a game breaker, the Grave Digger is tho.
Also why TF is the Tog II like 30 feet long
Gravedigger isn't game breaking.
I don't remember exactly why the tog was so long but if i remember correctly it was designed to have guns on the sides but they opted not to. I'd have to look it up again
It was designed to cross trenches, and yes there were meant to be sponson mounted guns
It's pretty hilarious seeing it in game though
This frickin enormously long tank rolling around
Tog is beautiful
Yes sure is but Tog II was to heavy and slow
Supposedly it wasn't actually that slow. Heavy definitely but not sure if it was actually slow
Nvm
is WG going to bring out the tier 7 challanger?
We need Tog II defender
Still bad
Because it's a defender its armour profile is doubled on all sides
Plus it would go 69 km
Hey people, I just purchased the tier 6 Jg.Pz. Did I make a good choice or should I have chosen the Nashorn?
@fair vigil The Jagdpanzer IV is a really good tank, better than the nashorn in most cases
@rigid thunder Doesn’t the jagdpanzer have a faster rate of fire as well?
Jp4 is poormans e25
@rigid thunder thanks for the help!
jp4 gets on fire a lot
Not really, just critical engine damage
4 secs
can we talk about how good and fun the su-152 is? its probably the most fun derp tank in the game for me
other than the T49 ofc
I really like the vindicator
Me: driving IS-7
IS-4 not noticing me and have 350 HP
Me: Load APCR to gurantee the shot and shot the DEAD FLAT side of the IS-4
crew: That one didn't go throw
me:....... *throws PC in the garabge *
Its a very good tank, decent armor, very good gun and speed
@fair vigil
Better than Nashorn in every aspect except for pen
@bronze anchor lmao smasher is game breaking, not grave
Su12244 or at15a?
SU
Thx
AT-15A is uhhhh
garbage
Trash on tracks
@faint iron Smasher is not, at least not for T7s cause I bounce that thing all the time
you can if you shot T29 front Turret mantlet
What is the best tier 8 in the tech tree (premium) you can go for? And why that one in your opinion?
@haughty void I don't have a particular favorite, but overall good tech tree premiums in tier 8 in my opinion would be the Lowe and T26E4 (SuperPershing). They're good for making credits and can perform in general.
T34 is also a really good one
T34 is a very nice heavy if you get it down, a lot of less experienced players suffer in it regularly.
Hmm, I already have the T30 and T29
If you like them then the T34 might be good for you, I personally enjoy it.
I can do it, but its not really an unique tank. Lowe and SuperP are more unique and strong too
The sp has alot of weakpoints
Lowe is kinda OP and definitely the best premium tank in the techtree
I wouldn't say its op but it is good
RIP to the best tier 3 tank ever.
I diidn't realize it got the HE cannon removed
Sens when defuq a british tier X tank destroyer has an autoloder😤
So, more experienced players of WoT. Which tank should I grind for, or is the 2000 gold better than the tanks?
@stark geyser I'd go 2k gold. The 3 prems are pretty bad IMO.
But if you don't have a credit grinder yet well.. grab one of them. I recommend SU.
Well I don't have a credit grinder. But if I get the 2K gold, then I have enough to buy almost any T8 premium normally available. But I also need more garage slots :/
T8 tanks are 7600 each IIRC.
I have 6.7 gold rn. 2000 would be enough to get me one.
Oh nice. Which ones you planning on getting?
can I sell the SU for gold?
No idea.
tbh I haven't decided yet. Thinking maybe IS6. Or may wait around for some other interesting tanks to come to the store
IS-6 really isn't that good lol. Lots of 8s and some 7s can easily pen it.
XD See, I haven't done my research yet. 😄
T34 on the other hand.. hull down in a good spot and boom invulnerable.
But I AM a tiny bit biased. I love my Murican tanks.
I've had a struggle with some of the American tanks
If you don't have a credit grinder, the best choices are either the Super Pershing or the Lowe.
I have a Type 59 and IS5. I never spent money on the game and Im playing since 2014 rip. So this has to be a good choice because I dont get that much gold again I think.
I have Type 59 and Is5,+ 4 other tanks that are tier 8 premiums
Can they make a 4th shell the kpfpz 70 can shoot, a shit can
Is it been announced when the fv4005 will be released?
The FV4005 is not premiun in update 6.0
So what tank premiun for tier VII choice guys
su122 if you a f2p player with no premiums. It has the best credit coefficient of any t7 premium
^, not to mention it’s DPM is straight fire 👏🏼
its basically a balanced wz 120
anyone have any advice on driving BDR stock? I can't do anything with it
My only advice is free xp as much as you can I really struggled with it
I'm sitting at a 29% win rate with it.... And I'm not a bad player, not a particularly good player but its a huge struggle
The bdr is a really bad tank tbh
I finished the tank with a 47% no matter what I did I just couldn't do enough
what about the 13 75? anyone have any advice with that? I had a great time with the 12t
all the french light tanks are really fun to drive
i swear all TDs have that one retarded phase
lol
especially in tier 7
omg yeah, the AT 7
the emil,the amx AC 45,the american TD i forgot the name
its a very weird transition
emil hella good wym
For the new event, which tank is better to get
T23
@stark geyser 13 75 is a 12t but bigger and with more spread out stats
Play it like a second line supporter or a tank who can crossfire
Acceleration is bad for a light and so is hull traverse
Gun is subpar against tier 8 heavies so bring maybe 4, 5, or 6 clips of apcr
I asked and then I battled with it and got a mastery in a bottom tier battle. 😄 I'm getting more used to it. I need to prioritize it's safety more, because it can't bounce anything or escape like the 12t can.
@split totem 122-44
6 rounds or 6 clips?
6 clips of 3 so 18 rounds
Trust me youll thank those apcr rounds for their ability to pen the front of IS tanks and the german heavies
Ive got the 13 90 and it sucks, just left it alone while im doing my t54 ltwt and wt auf pz
XD I was only carrying 6 rounds of APCR, 24 rounds of AP and 18 rounds of HE.
Cause madgames.
Fixed it now.
18 HE? I take 3 in case of a borsig or emil or nashorn
It was for healing in mad games
The rest is just about 60 percent ap and 40 percent apcr
I'm not carrying so much anymore. fixed the loadout. 8 clips of AP, 6 clips of APCR and 2 clips of HE
Yea hey i gtg to soccer practice sorry
np
@brisk orbit i thought similar
Can you buy the T23E3 Legendary Camouflage from the camo tab?
Yes @shut wraith
Should i buy m4a3e8 or chafee?
Easy 8 is life!
whats the best credit farming tank in the event
Su
Has anyone noticed that the HE on the BT7-Arty has more pen than the regular AP rounds?
Yeah, but i sold it cuz the pen is garbage and i needed the gold more
Oh, makes sense then
anyone who already has a SU-122-44, how much gold do you get if you were to sell it?
you can't sell a 12244 for gold
^^
This photo shows that everyone plays the Nashorn wrong
Bruh they got spotted
Not good
would be fun if nashorn can use the gun holder it has
i mean realistically the nashorn has the best armour against ap and apcr, just goes strait through without killing the crew
Eh
Unless one of them finds themselves in the way of a 75mm shell
Can someone tell me why the stock grind on the turret and guns for the 7/1 and the conqueror are over 100k Xp? I don’t mind that you have to grind to upgrade stuff but you are basically uncompetitive in a tier 10 game for the first 70 odd games in these tanks.
I have played over 37k battles and it seems to me that this grind is out of proportion to other their 9 tanks.
I'd say the WZ-120 and the Centurion 7/1 are possibly some of the weirdest grinds you can get in the amount of XP required, yeah.
One question: what is the tank that is going to proceed the future FV4005 line?
why is the scavenger so strong. in 1 shoot he blow the half of my hp from M7 away
thats the low pen gun with high damage, its q balanced imo. you probs showed ur side/back
Funniest sale ever xD No one wants Loza and KV-5 except people who collect tanks, Churchill III is so average.
Churchill 3 OP tier 5
Only against tier IV
Oh yay, more useless premiums on sale! Good bundles WG just introduced, but the tanks themselves don’t really offer anything special.
Bundles are good, just players should consider crap tanks as bonus to credits, boosters, avatar and premium time xD
Can’t sell these tanks for gold, only credits
These aren’t collectors
Nope, they’re all premium lol
They did a thing a little while back where Pz58 was in a bundle with Lowe with camo and max equipment on both for 12.5k
The problem is the Pz. 58 is just as useless as the Loza: it’s an Indien Pz copy.
Just get the Lowe and enjoy making credits. Seriously that was my best purchase ever
yes
I think they shud nerf the AP ammo more on IS
So that it can be much more effective than the normal AP hit points
Are any of the tanks in the new bundles any good?
Thanks in advance !
No
Grind 20k exp on StuG III G for Nashorn
or
Grind 40k exp on Panther 2 for E 50?
Both 🤔
i would want to get a tank so i can have more during the event
ehh.... to lazy to get creds before event
After event ill get the SU-122-44 which has the best credit coefficient amongst the three
and along with 3 premium days, the grind would be fun derping tier VI’s
but E 50 or nashorn?
RHM is so worth the struggle
waffle is my favo
i love Waffle as well especially with chocs
idk what choose between at15a and t23e3
at15a can to be more funny in toon
and has armor
I'm going for the at15a
I'd probably go for either the SU-122-44 or the T23E3
I have the t23e3 I dont enjoy it and I'm not all that interested in the su-122-44
Nashorn worth it?
I'd say so
Id get the SU-122-44, has the highest credit coefficient of all and very good gun witb bad accuracy and ok pen and armor if angled
Ehh but it's not historically interesting to me and I have plenty of credit grinders
Along with 3 days of premium lol... and ill spen d the 500 gold on the SU’s camo and the 300k silv on its equipment
only got the sent as the credit gnasher but ill get the SU first in the event
The free exp will help me research nashorn further. I’ll stop researching the E50 for a bit and pause from there on
I should be able to complete the event in type 62
I couldve, if not for the lack of tanks that i was good in
Just win 70 battles using the boosters
I use type 62 and E25
Lol the barrel just shoots out
Tank blows up barrel shoots out impales another tank kills it
oh okay, if you’ll excuse me i’ll be grinding my baby nashorn
Ammo racking a LTTB going 70km/h
Epic
@inland osprey Ammo racking a Tiger II with 49 HP
Excited disapointment
Big oof
Story of my life: if I ammorack something, it was going to die from the shot regardless XD
Imagine racking a 50B that’s going full speed. That giant turret flying
And then the turret crushes you.
Instant karma
you know, the turret would probably just fly off regardless if it's moving or not because that's a lot of explosives and such
@inland osprey Imagine a Maus Ammo rack sending the turret flying, then it landing on a BatChat
But it is more epic when the chassis is also moving with the turret
so, if this effects all the games physics, that'd change some things and tactics
Using someone's blown off turret as improvised hulldown armor.
@inland osprey ELC biscuit intensifies
If we are getting these kinds of animations, who’s to say we can’t have animated suspension or recoil?
that would be cool
we already have the recoil animation though if you stand still while firing
talking about gun recoil not the entire tank
Yeah
The gun retracting into the turret is kinda cool
so basically WarThunder realism in a light mobile game? 👀
? wotpc has this as well
No it's not, your screen didn't move upside down after firing shot in WoT PC
i think it would be fun if they added vibration ques in game. Like you get shot your device would vibrate, or ramming it would vibrate. Good for immersion
ah ah sorry my bad, thought you meant the gun retracting into the barrel
Or your battery literally launching out if you get ammoracked
@inland osprey Your phone explodes if you AFK a match
I’m gonna get t23e3 since I already have it and get 2000 gold in compensation
And use that for free xp and change my username
Loza’s sherman is pretty decent; for anyone interested the dispersion on the gun is like .6 less than an E8/Fury, which is really juicy.
I love my loza
wow @wraith breach thx for the accuratw stat.
0.6 less than E8/Fury is pinpoint accuracy since 0.320 or around dispersion minus 0.6 means that you have negative dispersion. btw blitzhangar is a thing and here we have all stats
And it has better gun handling overall as well
@short flame Oh my, I meant .06. Mistakes happen my dude 😉
Like srsly besides the prem time and boosters and whatnot loza is useless\
@short flame @solid gate Honestly, the Loza is much more effective medium/long range than the E8, which means it can snipe quite well, so you’re gonna wanna be playing further back. The tank itself is an E8, so it’s definitely not useless.
DPM is better than the E8/Fury as well.
Dispersion values are really nice to have, .0362 is pretty horrific.
but so is more gun depression
to put that into perspective, the T-34-1 has a .036 dispersion when fully kitted.
-10 is easily workable, good trade off for some decent dispersion imo
still not worth to play, it's a tier 6 and is nothing close to be op
Not worth it? An E8 is a good tank, if you didn’t have a sherman variant already, it certainly isn’t a bad tank
So if you didn’t have any tier 6 meds, this is a pretty competitive purchase, tied for best DPM for the mediums.
it's useless, who cares of tiers 6? is just an average tier 6 tank, 100% not worth to buy
It's worth it depending on why you want it
it's useless, there are 1k tier 6 better than it
Well if you want it for historical reasons or because you are a collector it serves its purpose very well and it's a good alrounder
Are the kv5 and/or loza's Sherman worth buying?
@hollow rapids for the tanks, no. for the all in all bundle, yes.
@short flame What would be a “better” example of a tier 6 medium?
Bromwell, PzIVS, T-34-85
maybe the last one is equal to loza but the first two are defo better
Pz Ivs is good
Better than Loza thats for sure
Good dmg but the side skirts are useless
@solid gate Depends on playstyle. Dispersion is certainly better for the Loza, giving it the best ability to play the long range game better than all the listed tanks above.
I have the tie fighter camo
but all around both Pz and Bromwell are better than loza
So yea, close range sure, you’re probably gonna loose to the Cromwell B or Pz IVS, but if you are playing support, which is almost any tier 7 game, the Loza will have a better effective DPM.
The best tier vii I think is the is2
Because you can essentially hit the shots where you are aiming.
It has the firepower of a tier viii
like i said, they're still better than loza all around
Best tier 7? Nah, that award goes to the Helsing
Good mobility and decent armor
@unique galleon what r u smoking if you think IS-2 is best T7
T34 is best tier viii heavy for sure
again, that's so wrong on so many levels
The helsing is not the best
So so so so wrong
Helsing: Troll as hell armor: decent gun with gr8 alpha, and amazing mobility.
IS-2: Mediocre armor at best, Trolly 122mm gun, and mediocre mobility
Armour doesn’t mean anything. My Waffentrager can get 6K wins against other tanks just because I understand bush mechanics and camp.
in t7 tho it's bad
It’s not bad at all, but it’s not OP either.
Ok, you are completely wrong again. Starting to think you're just trolling us
armor is really troll and its fast as mediums
T34-85 Rudy is good but type is faster in terms of speed but in terms of firepower they’re the same
150-250 dmg
except type has crazy HEAT pen
but that's not the point. if you think IS-2 is the best T7, you are completely out of your mind.
same with the T34 at T8 heavies.
All you unbelievers. This is a great tank. Enriched I’m cooking out like 40-50k credits a game
thats why there isn't really a reason to buy the loza other than if you don't have one of those
or if you a sherman history buff but oof
I prefer it over pz iv s
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Bear avatar (on the KV-5 bundle rn) is gonna be sold with 252u (or in the thing's crates)
If you have a Cromwell B, the Loza is a good add-on as a support/snipe tank.
You really cannot beat that dispersion. Gonna hit literally everything you aim at, not something you see in any tier 6 medium of that tier.
the only thing I’m annoyed by in the E8 series of tanks is that annoyingly low 128mm of penetration. E8’s should probably get a buff to around ~140-150 imo.
The firefly is god-tier with that 171mm of penetration, but man does that gun depression of -6° hurt.
Loza bundle didn't show for me.
I have the tank already but i also have the churchill. The churchill bundle showed up but not the loza. Any idea why?
It's a glitch for most people, WG is trying to sort it out
Ah ok
Same here though that it was only me
Bought the Kv-5 (only one of the three i didn't own yet).
Do I go for additional armor or hp?
You don’t have enough armour to bounce, go for HP @valid lodge
Ok thank you
How much XP do I need form Firefly to Challenger in Update 6.0?
no one knows
@thorn jasper look at the exp needed for other tier 7 tanks
panther m10 gets so much hate ;-;
has better gun depression than reg panther has better armour same gun reload the gun mantlet covers most of the turret so you get nice bounces you a bit heavier so you can ram more things...
Doesnt have the pen of the reg panther and the mantlet isnt very strong. Meanwhile the panther mantlet is very strong and autobounce sides
dude its just the gun on max turret, and its the same mantlet as stock panther, tha makes no sense
the mantlet isnt very thick
better than regular panther with top turret
Does anyone have any tips on playing the m41? I enjoy it but I feel like I should be doing alot better and having more of an impact on the battlefield
Its like the Chaffee but better in most aspects. Usually the m41 walker bulldog is a good renaissance tank, along with being a good cqc tank against those with slow turret traverse. Be careful since the tank is most likely to be hit by derp/glass cannon tanks and get one shot.
Ah ok I'll try that I also need to stop over extending so often
Usually rushing in where all the guns are aiming at isn’t the best choice, there’s an option of waiting and taking a different route when the tanks are spotted or where they will be most likely.
Is it just me or does the A-20 have broken HE pen?
It does and it's not that I'm rushing and pretty much yoloing it's more of I'm I'm going further then where my team can keep up so when I do spot the enemies I have no backup or it takes a while for them to get there
And how is it for flanking
The a20 has a broken HE pen guys
Yez
just me or does the a20 feel slow as hell
that's bc its top speed was nerfed hard
Isn’t the großtraktor have the highest gun elevation in game?
I think that title goes to the Pz Sfl. IV c
It’s 60 on the traktor
It's almost 90 on the toaster
Oh ok then the toaster is the highest then.
Lol yeah it is a flak gun so I'd assume so
Still is very strange lol
Yeah that's why it wasnt massively adopted but would have made sense
Loving my garage and the Nashorn!
but is the E 50 worth it? Nashorn is fun, 203 mm of pen at TVI? my man!
Yeah the E50 is a good tank, just a really horrible stock grind from what I've heard
its not bad, I grinded it with the stock gun, and researched the top gun
I dont have any free exp lmao
I’ll get the SU-122-44 and use 500 gold for camo and some premium time i guess, and then the three days of prem time i’ll be grinding (a lot.) and then ill come home with about 4 mil creds lol
Just free XP its top gun then grind the rest
Is the Lowe really a moneymaker like I've heard?
yeah shud be, highest credit coefficient at tier 8
I struggle with credits on the NA server so I need major help. Lowe might just solve that financial crisis 😂
Actually superpershing has slightly higher credit coefficient than lowe
Atleast according to blitzstars
Uh? I have both, on forum it says both have 190% credits coefficient
My go to credit grinder is the Cruel Twist.
I go for KV-5, Revalorise, or maybe the T-34-3
Lowe has a lower repair factor tho, so more profit
No
And yes
Not good
And we don't need it
Is too op
Broken
Fv4005
Absolutely not
No.
Is the A-20 getting a HE pen nerf in 6.0? It's really hard to grind my low-tier brit heavies with people derping for 200.
I'm guessing yes
@solid gate How is the cruel twist? I’ve always wanted it, I adore my RU but have always wanted a bigger HE alpha on it... and the cruel twist seems like a good way to 1. Play the tank I love but also make credits in it. 2. Get that bigger HE alpha
@faint iron Black Bulldog is a dream for RU fans.
pretty much everything u expect, + credits
@faint iron. Imagine the bulldog and the RU had a baby. It's basically that. Plus a really nice credit haul each match.
Heard the accuracy/gun handling is pretty bad though
Cruel Twist is the only light tank I really like
I mean I kept the T49 for posterity, but I have no love to it
I rebought the Chaffee to try and grind to the M41, and then to the T49. After one battle I sold it and swore to never lay hands on that tank again. I'm readying to Free XP the M41, then to the T49 as we speak XD
Well if you want to know what the cruel twist is like.. Take a T49 and put the non-derp gun on it.. then imagine it is slightly more maneuverable
So basically a better T49 with the 90mm?
kind of.. I have played the T49 a number of games like that and the play is similar. The cruel twist is a better setup though
CT has those amazing HEP rounds. The T49 doesn't
30.01 P or 36.01 H. Which should I unlock first?
I recommend the 30.01P, because a 8.8cm gun on a tier 6 medium is very fun.
Better, but not by much.
The Tiger P has very thicc armor.
Yeah Tiger P is way better than the Tiger 1
More pen and the front armor is awesome
Ok
so my other debate at the moment. Do I save up for a Lowe as everyone here keeps saying is the best credit maker or do I purchace 10 more slots.
Have they discounted slots any time in the last two years? I remember way back when I used to play they made the slots cost half as much for christmas
Nah don't purchase slots now
Lowe is gud tho
how long will I likely have to wait for a good deal? I have 13 slots, and things are getting quite tight.
Wait until payday and surge on gold. Idk
This tank is nice but why it's only had 920/980 HP :(
People, Can I ask for some advice? I just unlock my first tier X tank wich is the E-100, may I ask some tips for the angling or the armour?
I mean, I'm a pretty normal to good player but I find some problems doing the angling on the E-100
It's a great and fun tank to play with uwu, also thanks for the help
it’s boxy af, so angle the turret whenever possible to a maximum 45° angle, and youlll be golden.
ooh 😮
oh no don't give them ideas
BC 25T needs a gun depression buff, the top gun on the 25T feels worse than the top gun on the 25AP
Does enyone hope that the leopard 2 is getting in the game!
wargaming has already announced no composite armour in the game
Not the 1A2 the normal leopard 2
the leopard 2 has composite armour.
With the flat turret
? Yeah that's composite armour
Ohhhh ik
Sorry
But W hat about the leopard 2A4.This one doesnt have composite armor
Sorry you made me want to hit myself
The leopard 2A4 is the most widespread version of the leopard 2 family, and has been exported to many countries. This version, being an improvement over the leopard 2, 2A1, 2A2, and 2A3 would feature composite armour like its predecessors.
Shitbarn need good hesh gun, not that awkward shitty autoloader, i need 1750HESH dmg as average!
😋
Because that would be great for the meta
yeah you're the reason tier 10 in WoT PC is infested with those HESH guns that do nothing but crap on everything
owh gosh, anime army so mad at me TOXIC COMMUNITY (not even playing with british tanks)
I mean I gotta direct this large amount of "dislike" towards the stage II in PC somewhere
i just like irony, well not everyone know a nd understands that.
yeah okay you hurt my brain even more than the guy before bye
people say it's a worse comet and it sure as heck looks like one.
Looks-wise it doesnt impress thats for sure :D
I've never liked the t23 but I wont sell it for some reason
Su12244 russian bias heck ya!
the VK 30.01P is horrificly bad stock
What should I upgrade first. The engine or the gun?
gun, always gun
Ya, because everyone like guns
In USA they love their guns, in Russia they love their tanks, in Brazil we love our violence
So why don't love a tank's gun?
@stark geyser if you have the 150 pen 76 get engine otherwise get the gun
if you're grinding the RU251, then of course go for the engine
Is the SU-122-44 worth the event's hard-work? I watched some replays and saw his effective armor, look like a good tank with a blind gun
how is 140 battles on avg a hard work in a week?
I have to study for some tests for next week, so i have 2 hours for use my computer
2 hours everyday for 140 battles in a week
It's a little bit hard
you could probably platoon and do it in 100
It's not a great difference but thx for the tip
Use the gold it's a good idea too
I was thinking in buy a legendary camo but use that gold for finish the event it's a better idea
Ok guys I'm really struggling with the AMX 13 75. I did great in the 12t but for some reason, the 13 75 has been really difficult for me to actually succeed at playing well
maybe cuz its bigger than the amx 12t
i bet it's the trash pen, in the 13 75 you really need to flank people or use gold ammo if you get tier 8 mm
the 13 75 isn't a bad tank
didn't say that. glorious fun to zip around and annoy people on the sides
ah 13 75 , well it's the slowest light tank in French tech light tank also it does have really low hp you gotta struggle with it a lot
besides it has the fastest reload magazine in the entire line 😂
Fast reload doesn't help when you can't pen
What's the pen on the 13 75 again?
i forgot how much but it's lower than T71 also welp it has bad manuver
If it's at least 140+ then that's serviceable
It's more for sniping in my opinion get to a flank and keep out of site to avoid being shredded
Do you know what the heavy french line is like? I haven't gotten to far in it and I'm wondering how i will need to adjust my play style to use them
yeah well, most of French heavy linr are made for supporting, it does have high penetration for some reason
Paper armor but high pen, so teat it like a m4 and stay mid line and support?
Is it's gun accurate?
didn't try 50 100 yet but M4 45 90mm it's almost accurate as German 8.8 Tiger
Thank you
the amx 12t is slower lol
12t it's more faster than 13 75 and has more better power/weight ratio what r u talkin about lol
forgot to mention it has more better armour as well 😂 👌
The Challenger A30 tank has a TOG II turret right?
no
Is the T-34-85 victory any different from the T-34-85
yeah less pen but better rof and has really good credits
TOG II turret would be heavier than the tank itself
no the Victory is the same as a T34-85 just camo
Rate of fire is faster on victory
So it’s like the type 58?
kinda but not really
my type 58 stats are better than my T-34-85 stats
But I have many more battles so 🤷♂️
I guess I’ll go with the Su-122-44
WG when are you gonna sell T95E6 again
I've been getting in to collecting weird British tanks so I'ma shoot for the AT
Hi, i'd like to hear some tips about playing Chi-Ri, can someone help?
shots 2 - hide and reload - repeat
@bright current don't play it
Haha
darn nice luck lol
My frends win T-34-85 rudy, and type 64 for 2 chest
you can't win a type 64 from the chest, can't you?
@solid gate What chest?
Type, nad Cornwell. For 1000 coins
yeah that's real luck
Was it worth spending?
It's a 0.1 % chance to get a tank in the season containers
yeah i dont want the crates because I def dont want the IS2/ISU122S and probably a no on the rudy. I would buy the crates if it was just cromwell B or victory
Desmond_Yong95 look
the IS-2 1945's pretty good though
It's meh bcs of the gun
I can sell my großtraktor for 1200 gold, i already have 50 gold, if i sell groß i can buy 5 crates but groß is very rare
Also very bad
Groß or 5 crates
Let's talk about the amx40
First answer my question
Groß or 5 crates?
@hollow moth bra keep the GroB
U lucky
Ya thx
Have fun with vk100.01P
Load skill rounds and it's solved
Angle*
Or flank like you should do in a medium tank
Gets raped m0by isu with bl10
I don't think even skill rounds from the Rudy can go thru the VK 100
If the vk100 angle then the Rudy is useless
Why are you fighting the VK 100 in a Rudy in the first place anyway
How to kill tankenstein?
Spam HE a it I a su152
You could, you know, shoot it? @solid gate
Hahaha
Ram it in a SPIC
Tankenstein is not that hard to kill anyway
What are you using
Play OP tanks problem solved
Tankenstein is easy to destroy...
If you're using an AT-8, it is kinda understandable
@solid gate sir I've been playing the game since 2014 so I know how to do stuff
But i used E23E3
Oh
That's… worse than I thought
No one plays the at8 unless he wants his life to be miserable
Either go behind it
or
Just run for your life
Or spam HE in a su152
spam HEAT