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night kelp Apr 4, 2019, 2:18 PM

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yup firefly is beast

rigid thunder Apr 4, 2019, 2:18 PM

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that's one of the most historically inaccurate films I've seen

night kelp Apr 4, 2019, 2:18 PM

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it is lmfao

pulsar sinew Apr 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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50 b 💦

pearl notch Apr 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Bat Chat 25t

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Lorraine

sly notch Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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My fav tank is Amx Elc Bis because i can glitch on all maps :)

sonic kite Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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ELC :3

pearl notch Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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RH: Maus

spare forge Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Whichever one has the most reverse gears

pastel drum Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Bat Chat 25t is ze best

north bloom Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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arl v49

tawny cargo Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Fav tanks:elc and Bc25t muskeeter

hexed sail Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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foch155 i have 1800 battles on foch 155 and 900 on foch tier 9 the no brain rush tranks ❤

amber rapids Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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my favorite french is the one who best in going backwards

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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So the M4a1 mysteriously looks like a AMX 50 49

north bloom Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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so arl 44 ?

inner raptor Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@rigid thunder what do you think of the movie "FURY"?

amber rapids Apr 4, 2019, 2:37 PM

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is*

wary sage Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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foch 155 (PC version), cause im a sucker for glass cannons

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Fury is kinda crappy and inaccurate

spare forge Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Whichever runs away the fastest is the true spirit of France

amber rapids Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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idk all frenchs run backwards

rigid thunder Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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@inner raptor a good action movie and that's it

tawny cargo Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Well are are active :D

amber rapids Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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hey wanna hear a joke

inner raptor Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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So... No accurate vielcles or historical stuff?

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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is-4 and mk6, but i don't have them. :/

edgy oyster Apr 4, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Does anyone know when The AMX 30 B is coming?

inner raptor Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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No

tawny cargo Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@amber rapids in #off-topic-discussion

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Within the month

amber rapids Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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ok

edgy oyster Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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30 B is the best tier 10 medium i have ever driven

dusky stone Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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lol

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Not anymore

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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My favourite French tank is the Fcm 36 pak 40 😏

edgy oyster Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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i love it

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:39 PM

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30b has been nerfed into the ground

tawny cargo Apr 4, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Elc and bc25t muskeeter

edgy oyster Apr 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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idk how good it wilBy Far my favoul be now when they release it but when i tested it, it was by far the best tank i have driven

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I want to pick the M4A1 Rev ok, but WG should take a look at a strange fact. Why the 105 mm alpha is identical to the 100 mm alpha of the AMX M4 49?

livid wraith Apr 4, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Yeah somehow they overlooked the B C as well

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 2:45 PM

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And now i think about it... My Lowe also has 310 alpha, and it's a 105 mm gun

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It's not correct, either they rebalance the 100 mm or the 105 mm ones

rigid thunder Apr 4, 2019, 2:46 PM

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not sure why WG decided to make the rev have typical 105mm dmg while in PC it's selling point is the 390 alpha

lapis spindle Apr 4, 2019, 2:47 PM

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rockhard baguette!

quaint cargo Apr 4, 2019, 2:47 PM

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m4 mle for the win lads

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah, sadly I wasted my money on the 58 Mutz which is seriously weak for its tier in all aspects apart from gun depression and accuracy

quasi mirage Apr 4, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah 310 isnt worth it. 350 would be

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also amx 50b

wild trail Apr 4, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Lorraine

near forge Apr 4, 2019, 2:55 PM

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M4 Mlem for the win, yes

faint iron Apr 4, 2019, 2:55 PM

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M449 worth the 10K? It seems like a very competitive tank.

rigid thunder Apr 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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yeah, the vehicle stats are just good

faint iron Apr 4, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Fav is Lorraine no doubt.

left anvil Apr 4, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Just to hear the nubs whine some more😂

cyan ore Apr 4, 2019, 3:12 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/347145127472398337/563282013067542538/SmartSelect_20190404-041319_World_of_Tanks.gif

dink.

rigid thunder Apr 4, 2019, 3:13 PM

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oof

cosmic sinew Apr 4, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I love the lorraine
(AMX 40 i miss you)
Duck power

wise moth Apr 4, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Honestly, there’s not a single French tank tier 8+ that I don’t like.

Edit-scratch that, FCM 50t sucks hard

lusty junco Apr 4, 2019, 3:25 PM

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AMX CDC

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Hell year

tender cave Apr 4, 2019, 3:25 PM

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I agree. Its very difficult to play with FCM50t. The lowest of all my wr by far. Other fr t8 are good. But i dont have lorraine yet.

tepid cairn Apr 4, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Why did no one mention the UE?

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The master of Penetration

cosmic sinew Apr 4, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah FCM 50t is not a tank for new player

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 3:34 PM

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best is lorraine 40t

dark socket Apr 4, 2019, 3:36 PM

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FCM 50 t one of my favorites, I think I got like 2k battles in it or something

stuck sphinx Apr 4, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I can only say the FCM 50t is my favorite because it's my only French tank

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I'll do that tech tree eventually

dark socket Apr 4, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I got CDC and Revalorise too, Revalorise is also one of my favorites

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 3:49 PM

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The best tank still is the Amx CDC

dark socket Apr 4, 2019, 3:50 PM

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I like my Revalorise and FCM 50 t over the CDC

magic dirge Apr 4, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Favorite french tank is the AMX 30 1er

cosmic sinew Apr 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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The time when you destroy an heavy with ram in the AMC CDC (mad game) Good old Day ;_;

hidden isle Apr 4, 2019, 3:59 PM

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My fav french tank is Foch

grizzled shale Apr 4, 2019, 4:10 PM

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My fav French is that one in enemy team that is easly penetrated with he xD

hollow moth Apr 4, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I would like OBJ. 704 but i like pz 4 s and grosstraktor

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That's what i want for future

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pastel drum Apr 4, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Gosh, stop reposting it.

hollow moth Apr 4, 2019, 4:50 PM

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If war gaming want money, why don't make another derp tank but tier 7 and german?

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People love derp tanks

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The big german deathstar

near forge Apr 4, 2019, 4:55 PM

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...3000 Alpha for the Prammo option?

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Something tells me that's a little fake...

tulip sail Apr 4, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Its loading time is 10 minutes for that round

near forge Apr 4, 2019, 4:59 PM

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SO it's a one shot wonder then. 1 shot a Maus and then die happy XD

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Well, there it has 2.45 in the place where Rounds per minute would be, so it has about a 30 second reload or so...at T8 it's able to easily one shot something MULTIPLE TIMES PER ROUND...That's a little unbalanced, even for WG if this is real

hollow moth Apr 4, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Break the tank's engine and after 3 secs you break the track too...

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Is it a joke or what?

tawny cargo Apr 4, 2019, 5:46 PM

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The E25 should get a ninja camo where change the name of it to:E25 Ninja

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astral grotto Apr 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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E25 Ninja xD? nah...take out the xd

ruby dune Apr 4, 2019, 6:16 PM

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For High levels

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Or this:

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calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 6:40 PM

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SU-100 is better than SU-122P (SU-100 with 122mm D-2-5S)

Prove me wrong

wintry sand Apr 4, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Then by that thinking the T-54 (1949) is better then T-54 (1947)

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 6:45 PM

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That is correct

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 6:46 PM

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best "X" heavy for rating-battles?

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Tier?

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 6:47 PM

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X

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 6:48 PM

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That's a tough one, I'm gonna have to crunch some numbers

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T57 Heavy, E100 and IS-4 are about equal depending on how you play

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 6:50 PM

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thank y

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I considered FV215b, but it's too much of a niche situational tank to rely on
And Maus is just far better for pubstomping due to how E100's 15cm is overperforming
IS-7 is worse than IS-4 in almost every way
And 113 just can't turn and gets outflanked by some faster TDs and heavies

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 7:01 PM

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most offer IS-4

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Because it's just that good overall

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 7:02 PM

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i am sure after i take it,WG nerf it

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 7:02 PM

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They won't nerf it before they nerf E100's gun
It got buffed so much ages ago it actually has better everything than Maus' 12.8

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 7:03 PM

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i wish y are right

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 7:03 PM

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That's rammer only, because everything else is preference

solid gate Apr 4, 2019, 7:07 PM

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AT-2 = British V tier TD
AT-2 = Soviet II tier TD (now collectors tank R.I.P.)

calm stratus Apr 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Why do people put a dash where it doesn't belong?

leaden schooner Apr 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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@calm stratus ,thx

vivid lagoon Apr 4, 2019, 7:25 PM

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finally tanks-encyclopedia has an article on the M6A2E1...

faint iron Apr 4, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Smasher, WZ120 FT are in that list somewhere, also Mod 1 and ke ni otsu.

thick trout Apr 4, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Mod 1 isnt that op. Its good but nothing too unbalenced when everyone spams prammo at you

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Man the amx m4 49 is such a joy to play

heavy moss Apr 4, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Mod1 is the most beginner mode medium there is. Prammo wont help at the point where people just dance the 120mm front plate around with huge traverse numbers.

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Coupled to how anyone can play it, look how much it overperforms

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tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Type 59 is better

heavy moss Apr 4, 2019, 8:31 PM

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It is op, but not by as much as tanks in other classes are. Its still just a sluggish med with low pen in a tier full of heavies

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Tru

heavy moss Apr 4, 2019, 8:31 PM

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@tender sundial i prefer the type too, but i wish it had gun handling as good as on the mod 1

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Fair but it does have gun depression and that's crazy for a Russian based tank

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But I wish the pen were better

heavy moss Apr 4, 2019, 8:33 PM

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The aim time is what kills the fun for me. The dpm i can stand since its usually easy to control an engagement with such a good armor profile.

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I like the t34-3s gun more :D

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Oh?

vivid lagoon Apr 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I like the Kv2's gun more

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Kv5 needs a 152mm

vivid lagoon Apr 4, 2019, 8:35 PM

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oof

tender sundial Apr 4, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Would be amazing

night kelp Apr 4, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Is amx m4 good?

shut prairie Apr 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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It's a frenchie but it knowns the definition of armor
If I could, I would buy it
Seems good to me from what I heard

night kelp Apr 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

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ohh. Is amx pak good?

bold zenith Apr 5, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Nope

stable zealot Apr 5, 2019, 1:14 AM

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so.. would this image be considered the ST-1 Soviet heavy or the IS-4 Soviet heavy?

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bold zenith Apr 5, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Obj. 120

stable zealot Apr 5, 2019, 1:23 AM

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o

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wait obj 120 is a different tank

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im just asking cus the hull looks similar to that of the ST-1 or IS-4

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Looks like STI with the stock turret

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Let me ask someone and I'll find out

vivid lagoon Apr 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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hmm object 750? is5?

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Personally I'm thinking it's an is1 but im going to ask someone who knows alot more about Russian tanks

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Ok so I asked my friend who knows a ton about Russian heavies and it's an
Object 701-1

vivid lagoon Apr 5, 2019, 1:42 AM

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hmm sounds about right

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Yeah he knows so much more then me its quite impressive I'm just glad he was on discord

twilit wigeon Apr 5, 2019, 3:13 AM

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pretty sure there was a reason but I cant remember it atm

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Iirc they had too many people complaining that someone got ahold of there account and sold all of the tanks

calm inlet Apr 5, 2019, 3:16 AM

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for security reasons

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 4:55 AM

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They should add the m4-SO-122

frank swift Apr 5, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Is this real 👇

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I dunno

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KV2 turret with IS2 hull

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vivid lagoon Apr 5, 2019, 6:08 AM

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that's a smasher... lol

solid gate Apr 5, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Hey i have a question and need help. Should I buy smasher or should i wait for the AMX??

hollow quarry Apr 5, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Amx?

short raptor Apr 5, 2019, 8:27 AM

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AMX 30B

solid gate Apr 5, 2019, 9:10 AM

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And don’t

short raptor Apr 5, 2019, 9:55 AM

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@solid gate yeah, @solid gate hit it in the head. The 30B (if it is released as it currently is) has less DPM than any other tier 10 medium by nearly 400. On top of this it doesn’t have nearly as good an armor profile as the AMX 30 prototype, Hell, it has the Eiffel Tower on its head as well

supple dome Apr 5, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Another overpriced tank. Good work wargaming, let people buy their way to tier X. Who needs skills amirite.

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The worst part is this one isn’t even good.

heavy moss Apr 5, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Pls dont

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supple dome Apr 5, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Why wargaming…why must you kill me with cringe and bad ping at the same time.

thorny imp Apr 5, 2019, 11:17 AM

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2.5% chance to get the tank from Containers. Lol !!

worthy trail Apr 5, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Wg why can't you just sell tanks normally crates are pointless people want the tank so why don't you just let people actually but it guaranteed I have wanted it for ages

tender sundial Apr 5, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Cuz they make more money from crates

dull current Apr 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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They make more money and loos tons of players

lethal star Apr 5, 2019, 12:08 PM

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They’ll just sell the AMX straight up in 6 months. 🤷‍♂️

solid gate Apr 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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How to play the Cent mk. 1?

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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dont die

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pair up with a t-44 (preferably one with a 100mm on

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:21 PM

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why ignore type 59

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china number 1

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:24 PM

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Gently whisper: "WZ 120 g ft

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:24 PM

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wish i had one

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is it that op as people say?

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:26 PM

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yes, it's so OP I want to ram kill everyone of them when I get the chance, shooting them is not enough for me

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:26 PM

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@dark socket best counter is IS3 Defender for WZ 120 g ft

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:27 PM

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yea but is it op

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:27 PM

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yeah

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:27 PM

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show an example

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how much was it sold for anyways

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Excellent frontal armor, Great speed, Excellent gun, good cammo. It has everything except a turret

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:28 PM

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if I'm not mistaken it has pretty good traverse speeds

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:28 PM

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@pastel drum WZ-120-1 G FT Defender

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:29 PM

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@brisk orbit if you are on EU every battle in rating in tier 8 you will meet at least 2 of them

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:29 PM

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I did, I hate them so much I want to ram kill them

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I tunnel them, I hate them that much

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:29 PM

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400 alpha with 9s reload gg

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@pastel drum asia server you dont see them much

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 PM

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like, it's almost impossible to get around the thing 1 on 1

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 PM

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you can always piss them off by spamming HEAT at their upper superstructure

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 PM

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unless you are a CDC or RU 251. Then it is possible but very hard

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:30 PM

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saw an lttb kill one cuz the wz was dumb enough to sidescrape when the lttb was at his back

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:31 PM

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not all tank have good gold shells tho, like Russian medium tanks and the like, their gold pen ain't enough to punch through the super structure

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:31 PM

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how much was it sold for

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:31 PM

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I cannot remember

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:31 PM

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@dark socket hehe type 62

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:32 PM

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also can a tog 2 kill a ru 251 by cliff jumping

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Type 62 some times doesn't cut it either, maybe calibrated shells but it can still be a sketchy pen

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:32 PM

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who in the world runs calibrated in a 62

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:33 PM

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wish i had one with keniotsu

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I own a Type 62 and T-34-3

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:33 PM

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same

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I own a type 62 too and sometimes it is frustrating when WZ just charges at you and yoy do not pen the HEAT

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:34 PM

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T-34-3 and IS tanks can pen the WZ easy if they have calibrated shells (with HEAT)

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Right now on EU rating there are scorpions and WZs running around like crazy

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:35 PM

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well in asia its rare to see one of them

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:35 PM

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T-34-3 with calibrated shells is like 297mm of HEAT pen on average

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 1:35 PM

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i wish i can see a vk 100.01 cliff jump and hit it

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:35 PM

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I never run calibrated on any tank, the 34-3 has such a bad reload usually it's better for a rammer

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:36 PM

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I run it on an IS3 Def as you can not use gun rammer on autoloaders

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I'd rather Calibrated shells for T-34-3 because I feel like having more pen than DPM

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You lot know the top gun on the WZ-111G FT? the Tier IX Chinese TD

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:39 PM

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the top gun is a 152 mm right?

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:40 PM

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yeah

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:40 PM

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what about it

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:40 PM

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it's the same gun as the Tier X

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it gets 290mm of AP pen and can see Tier VIII

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305mm of pen with Calibrated shells

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Hold up, this means that the tier 9 is better than the tier 10? Sounds like grille and WT auf pz 4 case

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:42 PM

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nah, I ain't saying that, the Tier IX has a 15.4 second reload with gun rammer and both food

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and a 16.5 second reload with Calibrated Shells

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but 305mm of pen and can see tier VIII, that's funny and overkill, and it stands a good chance against Tier X

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:45 PM

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~~13.5 is with rammer~~ I'm retarded

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:46 PM

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the WZ-111G FT?

rigid thunder Apr 5, 2019, 1:46 PM

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wait nvm lmao I misinterpreted your words

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Don't worry 'bout it

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I'm gonna keep mine after I research the WZ-113G FT

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what you run for equipment @solid gate

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:58 PM

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WZ 111g FT is very fat imo

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 1:59 PM

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big truth

pastel drum Apr 5, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Ok time for coins. Bye

dark socket Apr 5, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Chinese TD's be like
Tier VI: Small, has gud gun and stuff
Tier VII: Also small, very nice gun but troll Accuracy
Tier VIII: Jesus, we like doubled in size
Tier XI and X: Big chongus

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^^^

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:07 PM

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50 120 is trash

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@frank swift it's a movie prop

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@calm stratus Uh, are you sure you're talking about the 50 120? The 50 120 is amazing

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Not when stock

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Everything sucks when stock

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:48 PM

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And why have a huge paper heavy when you can have the best autoloader in the game (T57)?

lethal star Apr 5, 2019, 2:48 PM

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mobility

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:48 PM

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When has mobility ever saved a barn?

thick trout Apr 5, 2019, 2:49 PM

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When it can run away instead of taking hits 🤦

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Why run away when you can blast people in the face?

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:50 PM

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You can be more aggressive with mobility

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:51 PM

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T57 is pretty mobile tho

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:51 PM

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T57 is incredibly slow

thick trout Apr 5, 2019, 2:51 PM

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@calm stratus and when reloading?

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:51 PM

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At least it can turn lol

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Not that much faster

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:52 PM

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And it's also smaller

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Can T57 chase down medium tanks? I think not

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Can T57 rotate around the map to get crossfires? I think not

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:52 PM

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The meds chase you down and lose 1200 HP

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:53 PM

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They can't pen you if they're dead. The 50 120 has 1200 clip potential at tier IX; if you pen all 3 shots on a tier IX med, unless they're full HP, they probably won't survive

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 2:54 PM

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t57 is a pretty bad tank overall

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:54 PM

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50 120 has really bad HP considering the armour

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@quasi mirage you're wrong

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@wise moth im just wondering did you get my discord channel invite?

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@calm stratus i played multiple autoloaders with around 7k+ battles in all autoloaders. I generally excel/overperform my career winrate in everything but the t57

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Maybe you just can't play a slow autoloader

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 2:58 PM

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T57 iS A bAd TaNk OvErAlL
dude
duuude what are you on? I wanna have some of it

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:58 PM

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T57 heavy actually has the best traverse of all tier 10 heavies offroad, and 2nd best on pavement

The autoloader is superior to 50b's
Good viewrange
Best turret traverse of all tier 10 heavies

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Who cares about traverse?

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 2:58 PM

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id rather have the 50b with the mobility to actually put dmg

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I can do damage with T57 tho

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:59 PM

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50 B trolls more bounces, has way more mobility, and more gun depression

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 2:59 PM

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dude ik how to play autoloaders. I have like 7k battles. @wise moth probably has more than melol

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 2:59 PM

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And traverse helps a lot in many situations

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 2:59 PM

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57 can only pick one flank; and hope for the best in a straight fight, 50 B has the luxury to choose its fights

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 PM

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How about when people start shooting you?

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 PM

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the reverse speed is awful on the t57. Its not a good combo. Id rather have the amx even if the exposure time is supposed to be longer

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Why are you in a fair fight?

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With the 50 B, just take a fight where you can either trade at a 2:1 advantage, or where the enemy can't fight back

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 PM

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It's not a fair fight because I'm in the best autoloader

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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The 57 doesn't have the luxury of being able to choose fights like that

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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just because you do badly with it doesnt mean its a bad tank
say for example theres a guy in the room here saying uh 57 heavy is such a bad tank, pretty bad tank overall because well he cant drive the T57 even if his life depends on it

guess theres a reason why his name says wannabe because he wants to be but fails in the end aye?;

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Oof

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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the amx is in agreat position because its a heavy but has medium mobility. It can use speed boost early game to catch enemy heavies out of position

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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@neat bison Uh, neither me nor wannabeunicum do badly in the T57; I'm willing to be we both have better stats in the 57 than you do in any tank

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:01 PM

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50b isn't a heavy tho
It's a fat medium

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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@neat bison i have 3k avg dmg and 70% winrate in my amx lol. im too cheap to have a name change

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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It's a medium with the penetration and firepower of a heavy

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Dunno about firepower

median oak Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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And size 😉

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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isnt that the theme of the French heavies in general?
but god damn the 50 100 is just not very good compared to the Lorr

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:02 PM

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@neat bison dont even try roasting me scrub.

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:03 PM

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why roast something thats already burnt aye?

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:03 PM

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50 100 is still pretty decent. It still has more clip potential, more pen, and faster total unload time than the Lorraine, and won't be HE'd in the front

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:03 PM

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50b gun is pretty bad lol

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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50b gun is great. Accurate + good pen+ 1200 dmg

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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One of the worst pens of tier 10 heavies

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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50B gun and T57 are nearly identical moron

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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the only diff is 0.5 second interclip lol. And thats cancelled by reverse speed

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Except T57 has better stats

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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the 57 heavy's grind is better imo
but both tanks are different due to the playstyles
one is a full fledged support while the other is a flanker
sure one can do the other's job but why would you?
its preference m80s

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Why reverse if you can take a hit?

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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T57 turret isn't very strong

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Better than 50b

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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50 B turret when properly played I find bounces just as many if not more shots

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Anyway @neat bison does your name fit what you should do?

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:06 PM

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@quasi mirage as much as yours

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:06 PM

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And especially in CQB, the 50 B bounces more. When I 1v1 mediums, the 50 B will bounce a shot or two when reloading, but the 57 won't

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:06 PM

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yeah its prob a bit less bounces but when a 50b is rushing to you yuo will troll bounce so many times?

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@calm stratus yeah im sure a player with 70% and 3k avg dmg in a non op tier X tank is a wannabe

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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maybe you should stop jacking off to platoons buddy boy you seem to be flexin muh 70% WR dis tank sucks mentality

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I DONT EVEN PLATOON MUCH i have 13% platoon rate lol

timid bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I've gotten so stupid bounces on the amx turret. Fully gray armor, and it bounces.

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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RNG makes dumb surprises
sometimes you bounce on a completely paper tank and other times you cant hit the broadside of a barn from the inside

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:08 PM

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But I do prefer not having HE spammed into my side by mediums

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:08 PM

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The 50 B's turret isn't entirely paper. The mantlet is an autobounce and covers a huge amount of the turret front when the gun is depressed

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 3:09 PM

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and you can also elevate the gun when reversing back a hill

timid bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:09 PM

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T57 turret I get trolled less

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:09 PM

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but one things for sure
until the bring the 50 100's extra shell back and improve the 50 120's horrific 18 clip sec reload, Im not playing the french heavies
I like the 50b but not nearly enough that I'd sacrifice my sanity for one

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SHHHHH

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:10 PM

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50 100 is still good; I play that in tier 8 tournies to great success, and 50 120 is still amazing. If you can't handle the reload, then you're doing it wrong

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Sure French tanks take some more finesse than their American counterparts, but they're so much rewarding

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:11 PM

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So is T54E1

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:11 PM

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I dont like it
doesnt mean its bad though
the gun's very meaty but I just ooh... Pierre LOAD THE SHELLS FASTER, QUICKER

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:11 PM

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And that was actually fun

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:12 PM

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AMX 50 100: exists
T49: its free real estate

oh and uh the other reason why I went for T57 line first... T49

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I dunno theres just something attractive about punishing fellow lights for pushing too hard

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:13 PM

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When it comes to the, tier 8's, I'm not going to pick a side; since I like the T69, T49, and 50 100 a lot

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:14 PM

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T57 turret is actually quite bouncy

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neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:14 PM

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well now to another tank
the M41 Bulldog
is it me or is thing just a comet with light tank "camouflage"

faint iron Apr 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Naw, just hit the fat cheeks. Lol. It gets a lucky bounce every once and awhile and can bounce a few med shots from far away but not much else

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Can't do that if it's behind stuff

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 3:18 PM

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You can't hide the cheeks if you want to shoot

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:18 PM

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the M41 is a brilliant medium
but at light tanking its uh...
its a joke
you get spotted earlier and your camo is unreasonably bad for a light

besides, your playstyle screams "medium" due to the fantastic RoF of the gun, its great at everything that does not involve spotting

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but for aggro hill farming, its great
it defo feels like a comet with no turret armor

faint iron Apr 5, 2019, 3:19 PM

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I love my 57, but the 50B is far more versatile and can get itself out of sticky situations

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:20 PM

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None of that actually matters when teams keep being garbage

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:20 PM

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cough Asia server worst server cough

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Neither can solo carry a team of baboons who do 700 damage in a Jageru

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:21 PM

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oh we have the same here
except those jagerus manage to fire three shots and deal 0 damage

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:21 PM

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And 700 damage in a 183

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How does a 183 do only 700 damage?

noble moss Apr 5, 2019, 3:22 PM

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HESH fail

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or 2 of them

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Literally no way, it would splash for 400-550

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I have experience

noble moss Apr 5, 2019, 3:23 PM

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depends on what you hit

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and where

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:24 PM

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lower glacis of an IS-7?

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:24 PM

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400 splash

neat bison Apr 5, 2019, 3:24 PM

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turret ring of an E-100?

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or maybe a low damage AP?

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 3:25 PM

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KV-2 HE you mean

faint iron Apr 5, 2019, 3:55 PM

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IS4 is kinda venerable to HE. I like to run a bunch of HE in my tier nine and ten TDs so I can HE splash their turret roofs

brisk orbit Apr 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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cool, i got top gun emil what to do

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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uh max roll 183 plus super steep angle on lightly armored tank can mean 700 dmg with max roll

lusty bolt Apr 5, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Hi guys do u think that if leopard 1 have 80mm frontal turret armor instead of 54mm Will be op?

calm stratus Apr 5, 2019, 6:54 PM

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@quasi mirage angle doesn't affect damage lol

visual jolt Apr 5, 2019, 6:54 PM

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No. That’s still a pretty easy pen @lusty bolt

lilac dawn Apr 5, 2019, 7:25 PM

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How is Chinese td t9/10 compared to 8?

quasi mirage Apr 5, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@calm stratus ik that. Im saying it has to be thin armor to limit the amount of dmg blocked but the angle is steep enough that the HE can't pen

primal onyx Apr 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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I love the Foch 155

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Please explain the DPM on the Tier 9 B-C 25 t AP. If you take the mag reload time and the shell time into a 60sec time frame for amount of shots per min then times by the amount of damage AP or HE shells do it doesn't match the total DPM posted. My numbers have the lower gun doing more DPM but the game says otherwise as does blitzstars. Someone please explain this or tell me how am I doing the math wrong. In other words I think the DPM numbers it shows are wrong for this tank.

quasi olive Apr 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Who wants to go commit Move to Brussels?

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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@reef pelican The way DPM is calculated for autoloaders with N shells per magazine is like this: 60*Alpha*N/((N-1)*Interclip+Magazine Reload)

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Basically, you take the total time it takes to reload and fire one magazine, divide by the number of shells in the magazine to find the average time to fire one shell, divide that into 60 to find RPM, then multiply by damage per shot

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So for the Bat Chat AP with the 100mm gun, with no vents and provisions, the calculation looks like this:

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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@wise moth I know but the numbers I come up with are lower than those DPM posted for this tank. Both in game and on blitzstars. I checked other tanks they are jsut fine.

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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6 seconds to unload the magazine + 18s to load the new magazine divided by 3 shells in the clip = 8s per shell = 60/8 = 7.5 RPM. 7.5 RPM * 310 alpha = 2325 DPM

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:18 PM

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And the lower gun has more dpm than the higher gun for this tank

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@reef pelican It's possible you're double counting the interclip reload. Remember it only takes (N-1)*interclip to fire a magazine, not N*interclip

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:19 PM

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and that doesnt match what the game says the dpm is

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:20 PM

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@reef pelican The game adjusts the DPM calculation depending on your loadout

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Running Vents and provisions will cause the game to show a higher DPM than the base DPM number since the game will then calculate the effective DPM with those included

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Fr lower gun I come up with 2220.394 DPM the game says 2419

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

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@reef pelican With what loadout? Is that with food provisions and vents, or none, or some combination of both?

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I am using those numbers to do my calculations

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I come up with a different number for DPM than they have there

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

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@reef pelican I got the same number as the game; and now I know your mistake

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Just as I suspected, you're calculating it as 4*2+16.32 for the total time it takes to fire and reload the magazine

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

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yes

wise moth Apr 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

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You should be doing 3*2+16.32. The first shell in the magazine takes 16.32s to load, then you only need to cycle 3 times total at 2.0s to fire off the rest

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It goes Fire, cycle, Fire, cycle, Fire, cycle, Fire, reload

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You only need to count the interclip cycle time 3 times, not 4

reef pelican Apr 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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hmm ok I see where I went wrong now

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Thank you for your time

noble bolt Apr 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@wise moth community helper

calm inlet Apr 5, 2019, 11:15 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/529712886352969739/image0.png @brave coyote

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 11:20 PM

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@brave coyote uhh there already in the game

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Most "tds" are spgs

calm inlet Apr 5, 2019, 11:20 PM

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SPG=self propelled gun. but he means artillery

solemn dragon Apr 5, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Anyone know where the new British TD’s will branch off? In other words what do we need to be grinding for a he’d start

calm inlet Apr 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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pretty sure its the firefly

bold zenith Apr 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I think the Firefly, only tech tree tank with really no purpose

tulip sail Apr 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Ah that makes sense and technically we do have spgs that were for artillery

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Like the m8 Scot

solemn dragon Apr 5, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Thx guys I got the firefly but have not got any British TD’s

fossil violet Apr 5, 2019, 11:43 PM

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the td's arent out yet. But hold on to that firefly 😉

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Guys is the kv 3 betta or the is

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:26 AM

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KV has more usable armour
IS is faster

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Which one is cheaper tho

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:27 AM

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both are the same(close enough) price

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:27 AM

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What about their firepower

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:28 AM

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uses same top gun, same dpm

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Which one have more pen and which one more dmg

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:28 AM

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they used the same guns for their top modules

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Oh

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:28 AM

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they have the same damage and dpm and pen

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Even though the IS is faster it's still not as fast as a light

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:29 AM

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no
but it is faster than the KV-3
but you sacrifice armour for better maneuverability

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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But can still get outmanuvered by lights

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 12:31 AM

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same is said with KV-3
but KV-3 has more survivability than IS
but the IS has a overall better grind, especially at its tier 9 tank

inner raptor Apr 6, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Thx for the tip

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So im getting the IS

wraith breach Apr 6, 2019, 1:30 AM

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IMO Mobility > Armour

bold zenith Apr 6, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Meds > Heavies

wraith breach Apr 6, 2019, 1:31 AM

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The KV-3’s armour is mediocre at best against top tiers, and the IS bounces bottom tiers without issues.

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The Mle 49 is awesome though. Good gun depression, armour and DPM, it’s fantastic and can carry better than the Rev can.

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What’s important is you are running a tank that can hold a position. The IS can do it better than the KV-3 IMO.

bold zenith Apr 6, 2019, 1:40 AM

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122s are scary things

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why no one 1v1 183s

vague lagoon Apr 6, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Anyone ever seen a log or tracker of all the assorted buff/nerfs a tank has gone through over the years?

high lynx Apr 6, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Hello, i don't know where to ask this question, but my clan mates said to ask in the discord server.

On my other account, I remember unlocking and playing the scavenger. But when I returned from a bit long of inactivity, it went away including some of the tanks on my garage that have been removed from the tech tree.

On my main, I also remember getting the other 2 sisters of the kuro, the t4 td and t5 mt ones, but they are also gone.

I wonder what happened to them because they just disappeared and I am sure that I didn't sold them. And we cant say that they were removed from the game since some people are still using them.

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Maybe there is a way to talk to a representative from wargaming and discuss this problem.

zealous anchor Apr 6, 2019, 3:35 AM

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Think it is better to send a ticket to Wargaming so they can get more info from your friend

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@high lynx

high lynx Apr 6, 2019, 3:38 AM

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@zealous anchor you got the link for the support site?

neat path Apr 6, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Is the Amx 49 any good?

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📎 Screenshot_2019-04-05-23-45-30.png

rigid thunder Apr 6, 2019, 3:53 AM

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yeah it's a good tank

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:13 AM

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@neat path very, I have a 80+ wr in it

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 4:22 AM

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amx is a very good tank

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I agree with your name sir ^

vivid lagoon Apr 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Lol

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:24 AM

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#undo 5.5/5.6

rigid thunder Apr 6, 2019, 4:25 AM

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but the free gold

sage mica Apr 6, 2019, 4:29 AM

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@tender sundial i agree #undo 5.5/5.6

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Lol

neat path Apr 6, 2019, 4:30 AM

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gets banned from server

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 4:30 AM

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But let those who sold the collectors keep the gold they got

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Tru, maybe they should just buff the tanks that are left back to their former states

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I'd prefer that honestly

sage mica Apr 6, 2019, 4:31 AM

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i want my old pz4 back 😦

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Well except the ones they changed teir

sage mica Apr 6, 2019, 4:32 AM

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gtg to bed

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gnite all

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ed balls

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wrong macro

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Gn dood

vapid magnet Apr 6, 2019, 5:22 AM

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gun first or engine for Mäuschen?

vivid lagoon Apr 6, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Engine probs

twilit wigeon Apr 6, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Gun

vapid magnet Apr 6, 2019, 5:27 AM

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okay :)

zealous anchor Apr 6, 2019, 6:10 AM

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@high lynx It's in the tab in game underneath settings called "support"

quasi mirage Apr 6, 2019, 7:34 AM

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the amx m4 is basically a better tiger 2 in every respect but side armor lol

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and i guess premium penetration and slightly neglible gun handling differences. The amx is faster has actually good frontal hull armor, has great turret armor with 10 degrees of depression

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with about 200 more dpm

vivid lagoon Apr 6, 2019, 7:37 AM

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But when u have a derp gun shooting at u it doesn't matter...

brisk orbit Apr 6, 2019, 9:20 AM

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kv-3 player here

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the armour isnt that bad

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though kv-4 and st-1 stock grind as i heard will make you rage

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so its a better decision to go down the IS line too as well

fiery crown Apr 6, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Kv3 is decent .....I personally didn't like kv4 need platooning in it....St1 free xp gun and turret

brisk orbit Apr 6, 2019, 11:02 AM

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why u skip kv-2

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 11:31 AM

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@everyone is the amx 30b an autoloader?

rigid thunder Apr 6, 2019, 11:31 AM

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no lmao, it's just a single-shot MT

olive sky Apr 6, 2019, 11:48 AM

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it isn't

raven jacinth Apr 6, 2019, 11:55 AM

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perhaps

snow ore Apr 6, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Hi guys

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 1:52 PM

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@solid gate I'm at the KV-3 at the moment, I'm glad I already got the guns from the IS, saved me alot of time

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:19 PM

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KV-4 was a huge disappointment when I got it :(

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Too slow and the gun doesn't do anything

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Ended selling it off cause it ruined my wr

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I'm fine with Kv-1 and Kv-2 as good heavys

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I am currently grinding the French light tank line. Am at the tier 7 amx.

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Can anybody say if the line gets better?

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Because the tier 7 amx feels like a downgrade to the tier 6 amx

olive sky Apr 6, 2019, 2:29 PM

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13 90 has a nice autoloader

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:36 PM

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@solid gate tier 8 is nice, flank, unload, run

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@solid gate good luck, mate... The KV-4 will be a tough one to grind

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I'm still at the KV-3, it's not that bad but I just need to play the KV-4 right, hull down in it is great... Very nice turret

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Is the amx 13 90 faster than amx 12 t?

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@solid gate I think same mobility, but both ways, it's still good

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I have the BC 25t ap at the moment it's fun

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:51 PM

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OK and what about the acceleration?

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Does the 13 90 accelerate as fast as 12 t?

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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The 1390 is faster than the 12t in terms of acceleration and handling imo

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Nice👌

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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The BC 25t ap, it could use a very little acceleration buff

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Especially with an engine boost. It’s downsides are low DPM and Slow aim time. Though its aim is troll and allows you to make very good snapshots, the Pen is great and the armor is certainly troll due to its small size. But I wouldn’t say it’s well armored. Good depression on it too. But the DPM is ridiculous. Could even use a little buff.

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I was worried cause the amx 13 75 accelerated slower than the 12 t

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I enjoyed unloading on heavies in my 13 90, it was fun and you were like punishing them... And even more fun when you have 4 shells with 2 seconds per shot in tier 9

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:55 PM

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@supple dome OK thanks but about the gun. Is 170 pen enough or should I add the calibrated shells?

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I didn’t need calibrated shells at all on 13 90. It needs the faster reload so go with the vents.

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:56 PM

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But autoloader don't have faster reload

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:56 PM

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The 1390 definitely needs support though. But it’s a great scout with a good support gun.

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It has vents, that gives it slightly faster reload and better handling plus you can spot more.

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:57 PM

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You might need calibrated shells tho, but it'll only help you with the lower plates of certain heavies

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:57 PM

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OK nice as longs it acceleration is good and gun is nice

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Callib shells even for sides and rear?

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Calibrated shells aren’t needed. It’s Ap can handle most things, only the Is5 and Vk100p can be an issue though un angled it’s AP still goes through. But if you’re in front of super heavies in an amx1390 than you’re playing it wrong.

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To give you an idea, at less then a 10 degree angle it’s AP can pen the Vk100ps lower plate with AP and no calibrated shells. Same with is5s lower plate.

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Nah I play the amx as assassins

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Late game I like to do the "circle of death" on heavys and Tds

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 2:59 PM

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No you don't need Cshells to go through sides, @solid gate
@supple dome, it's in certain situations when you must go upfront with a super heavy

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I know mate.

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 2:59 PM

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However I need to accel faster than they can turn turet and torso

supple dome Apr 6, 2019, 2:59 PM

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That’s what I meant :p.

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:00 PM

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@solid gate you can circle and IS-5 but you'll have to trick them to shoot every two circles or so

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Which is easy cuz you're small

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Amx 12 t was great with my record being over 3k dmg

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But the tier 7 is meh

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The key is to circle but not too fast so they can't shoot

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Some heavies have good traverse but with something like KV-4, you can circle it forever

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:03 PM

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What provisions do u use on your amx?

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Unlike French heavies or the IS-8

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@solid gate protection kit, the cheap ones for fuel and crew, @solid gate

brisk orbit Apr 6, 2019, 3:03 PM

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kv-3 dont really have a bad stock imo

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:04 PM

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@brisk orbit without the engine, it's dead slow

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I use the top food and both fuels

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A fast amx is an alive amx

brisk orbit Apr 6, 2019, 3:05 PM

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@fallow venture yea i can agree

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overall you go engine then turret

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i went turret first because i already have the 100mm from t-44

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:07 PM

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@brisk orbit I had all the guns from the IS, went turret the engine

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Are there any premium light tank amx with autoloader?

brisk orbit Apr 6, 2019, 3:08 PM

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best thing is that the 122mm carries to kv-4

rigid thunder Apr 6, 2019, 3:08 PM

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@solid gate AMX 13 57?

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Is at sale? And whats the tier?

vivid lagoon Apr 6, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Tier 7

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Sadly they don't have it in the shop

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 3:15 PM

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@solid gate take a look at the American autoloader line, you may like it

pastel drum Apr 6, 2019, 4:38 PM

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@solid gate I know, it is awesome

📎 Screenshot_20190406-193654.png

valid lodge Apr 6, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Would love if they rereleased those kinda camos

quasi mirage Apr 6, 2019, 5:09 PM

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the e50m is meant for 2 types of ranges <2 meters and>200 meters. Either you facehug ram or COD enemy tanks at really CQB or stay at mid to long ranges and use your laser gun and minimize your weakspots while accurately hitting the enemy

mighty canyon Apr 6, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Unreal for tier 7

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Not really just look at the other derp tanks

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Any well profitable researchable tank? I wanna make credits and the only premium I have is the SU-100Y

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Higher the tier the more credits they make

thick trout Apr 6, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Yup you print credits at tier 10 😂

left anvil Apr 6, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Tier 8 is best one for credits. But not if you suck. You still need to actually do damage to make credits

languid needle Apr 6, 2019, 6:19 PM

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this camo is much better

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valid lodge Apr 6, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I have 58 special camos for my hetzer

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Assuming my math is correct. 19×3 + 1

fast sail Apr 6, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Any advise using this tank?

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thick trout Apr 6, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Dont use it, play the kv1 instead

valid lodge Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I'd offer advice but i don't use my T-25

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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It's a pretty standard med fun but average (or at least last time I played it that's how it felt

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@tulip sail I can't get any premiums

tender sundial Apr 6, 2019, 7:19 PM

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@fast sail it's fast in a straight line, use it on ridges and don't get too close

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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@fallow venture just play your highest tier you are good at playing

stark siren Apr 6, 2019, 7:25 PM

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tier 5s make good credits

solid gate Apr 6, 2019, 7:58 PM

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a20 is bad

hollow quarry Apr 6, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Yep

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To bad though, I really liked it

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 8:39 PM

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@tulip sail okay, is the scavenger profitable?

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I'll have to double check its credit coefficient but I think so

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@fallow venture ots about mid at 120%

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Is that good? @tulip sail

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Its middle of all t5

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Here I'll send the link to all of em

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Thanks

tulip sail Apr 6, 2019, 8:46 PM

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http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/58556-updated-credit-earnings-for-56-missing-a-few-new-tanks/

World of Tanks Blitz official forum

Updated Credit Earnings for 5.6 (Missing a few new tanks!) - Playe...

Updated Credit Earnings for 5.6 (Missing a few new tanks!) - posted in Player Guides and Information:
The most comprehensive collection of credit coefficients to date!
Still missing coefficients for ISU-130, Mauschen, T-22 Medium, T95E6!!!

If you find a tank I am missin...

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It's the one that maverick posted earlier

quasi mirage Apr 6, 2019, 9:20 PM

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for standard tanks its 5 to 6. Premium is 8 and 2 tier 5s

left anvil Apr 6, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@solid gate A20 good tank. You should’ve seen it with the auto loader. Seal clubbers adored it

fallow venture Apr 6, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I wish they add any new tree this month

feral kiln Apr 6, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Smasher is God no discussion needed

tacit gull Apr 7, 2019, 1:14 AM

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What are some premium tanks worth buying gold with

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 1:27 AM

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If you like tds the jagdtiger 8.8 is a great one

tacit gull Apr 7, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Any ones that I should avoid

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Or should I wait for events to get tanks

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I would like credit makers, would super Pershing be considered one?

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 1:33 AM

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The super persh is pretty good but if you like heavies you definitely should go with the T34 as its really good

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And a pretty good credit maker aswell but not as old as the lowe

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The super persh has the highest credit coefficient but it's got alot of weak points in its armour

tacit gull Apr 7, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Ohh okay tysm man

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Where can I get drac?

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 1:37 AM

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When it goes on sale next which I've got no clue when that is

faint holly Apr 7, 2019, 3:52 AM

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what should i do next?

📎 unknown.png

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i got 549k credits

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what should i do for the german line?

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save up for a tier 8? or...

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Save for t8

faint holly Apr 7, 2019, 4:02 AM

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some dude in the game said i should get Tiger P

twilit wigeon Apr 7, 2019, 4:03 AM

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Its a good heavy imo
the 200mm frontal armour is really good
although speed is a bit lacking

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Yeah its good but I didn't enjoy it

vivid lagoon Apr 7, 2019, 4:24 AM

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The vk3001p is good for fun but grinding that line? Nope NO WAY

quasi mirage Apr 7, 2019, 4:46 AM

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tiger p was such a meme back when it had like a 4 second reload

stark siren Apr 7, 2019, 4:56 AM

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and the fact that the tigers went under the radar for so long shows how bad the average tiger driver was back then

wraith breach Apr 7, 2019, 7:22 AM

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The tank was bad, drivers the same

solid gate Apr 7, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Whaddya mean the Tigers were bad

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The pre nerf tigers were absolutely ridiculously broken, I’d say even more than BP is now

golden spade Apr 7, 2019, 8:33 AM

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Hey guys! What do you think about Löwe?

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Someone says its money maker.

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I think its cool😎

calm inlet Apr 7, 2019, 8:36 AM

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its amazing

fallow venture Apr 7, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Lowe needs a small traverse nerf, it's hard to flank a bit

golden spade Apr 7, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Sure

solid gate Apr 7, 2019, 12:11 PM

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@solid gate Wz 111G Ft is not the best tank

left anvil Apr 7, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Don’t start a religion anytime soon boi @solid gate

brisk orbit Apr 7, 2019, 12:21 PM

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wz-120-1 ft best tank

solid gate Apr 7, 2019, 2:07 PM

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WZ-111

wraith depot Apr 7, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Löwe is a weird german. A german with troll armor.

fossil violet Apr 7, 2019, 3:54 PM

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you can pen the front of a lowe with t9 guns. fun

left anvil Apr 7, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Ya. M46 burns threw a tier 8 team like butter

pastel drum Apr 7, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Ya. and every tier 10 burns through tier 9 like butter

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Amx m4 49 best t8 prem heavy

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Sarcasm or truth?

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Truth

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:35 PM

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What's the armor like?

dusky stone Apr 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Like French steel

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Well think of Lowe, then make it better

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But decrease side armor

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I do not have the lowe.
I've got an exp though. What's it like compared to that?

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Similar but better turret

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Is it worth the price?

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Hmm maybe I need to look into it

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:39 PM

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I think so, but you need to make sure it sounds like your cup of tea

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10° gun depression, 100mm gun with 8 second flat reload, 40kph top speed and 16~ hp/t power to weight

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I'm very versatile with tank playstyles

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Maxed

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Oh and I've heard they're buffing it's lower plate

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Sounds like you'd speed to the front line to hulldown, correct?

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Well keep your front angled and you can bounce but keep your side hidden

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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I could maybe work with that

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That's kinda what i do with the exp

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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I've bounced so many big guns, like waffle tractor 150mm

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Alright sounds like it's worth a gamble

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Wg should give you a piece of the gold

📎 Screenshot_20190407-124431_World_of_Tanks.jpg

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Nah if it can help you get more wr and the like I'm glad

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 4:52 PM

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The crimson fury camo looks so good on it

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I just use the camo it comes with cuz it's pretty guady

solid gate Apr 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Any of you guys know if there is a site that updates with the meta tanks for each tourny tier and maybe gives different walk threws on tank line ups for certain strats?

valid lodge Apr 7, 2019, 6:19 PM

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@tender sundial
Not a bad first game
1800 dmg (second top dmg)
Blocked 1400 dmg and was able to hold off a super pers, is-6, jp2, and tiger 2. Pretty happy purchase

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Glad to hear it @valid lodge

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This was mine

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Torty battle

gritty tiger Apr 7, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Should I get kv1s or kv2?

tender sundial Apr 7, 2019, 7:08 PM

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They're both good tanks, the 1s is a better chassis but the kv2 has a better gun

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So just depends on what you want

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@gritty tiger

dusky stone Apr 7, 2019, 7:25 PM

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For the memes kv2

fallow venture Apr 7, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Did they nerf the leopard? The tier 5 one

twilit wigeon Apr 7, 2019, 7:57 PM

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yes

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Yeah and it took em long enough

fallow venture Apr 7, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Oh, too bad

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I just realized it has a very nice credit profit

tulip sail Apr 7, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Tbh I'm glad it was as a toon of them could almost team wipe

spring salmon Apr 7, 2019, 11:24 PM

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i think the Kpfpz-70 needs a buff....lol

green wing Apr 8, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Is the T54E1 worth it

fossil violet Apr 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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yes

tacit bolt Apr 8, 2019, 1:39 AM

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@spring salmon they already buffed kpz 70 gun stat twice..so far i can shoot a moving tanks from center maps without worry of missing the targets. The only buff that it may need is HE damage to be comparable with standard 150mm gun

wraith breach Apr 8, 2019, 1:45 AM

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It certainly does NOT need a buff.

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As is. they can rush TD’s and completely wreck them with one shot and a ram, and all while on the move.

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Gotta have some balance in there.

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Yea, it’s because it’s a DERP tank, it’s not supposed to be accurate.

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But it is accurate enough to hit stuff on the move while at close range

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I’m wrong? Yea because that makes sense. It’s happened to me on a MULTITUDE of occasions.

timid bison Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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@hexed wagon watch your language.

wraith breach Apr 8, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Not like I have experience or anything in tanks with paper armour.

timid bison Apr 8, 2019, 1:49 AM

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And calm down. Go play minecraft or something for the time being...

wraith breach Apr 8, 2019, 1:50 AM

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You can, and it does happen quite often. Got snapshotted over 200m away in a borsig. It’s insane.

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And that happens FREQUENTLY.

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Because it’s a TD. With good gun handling. It BETTER be able to snapshot.

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Well in that case of logic, the SU-152 is terrible also, which it certainly isn’t.

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more accurate, but it misses shots by a county mile about 1/3 shots I find.

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It’s a high-risk tank for sure, but when applied correctly it’s just insane.

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Yea. For that reason, it should not be getting full TD damage.

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To be able to flank, get into concealment and not be spotted and be able to one-shot tanks is just ridiculous with the speed that machine has.

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The smasher is OP, but the KV-2 is balanced by garbage armour AND garbage speed.

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Like the SU-152 is, along with the Rhm and ISU

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eh, makes sense, WG knows that a lot of people play it for the memes

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Well that’s what the tank is. A LT with a howitzers gun. No, having the current damage is what we call BALANCE, and changing that would destroy gameplay.

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Tanks with HESH is tricky, I don’t ask them to boost the alpha to the 183 do I? It’s part of the risk.

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Yea, that’s called dispersion my friend. Don’t shoot HEAT at tracks. Ever.

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especially with the crap dispersion the T49 has

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All I’m saying is that the tank has an on average 59% WR in capable hands. It does not need a buff at that state.

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And that statement is backed by..?

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You don’t get a 59% WR by having “luck” as your only reason. It doesn’t work like that. The ISU-152 is lower than that, and that has more derp and better gun stats.

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your WR in it is a 50.00% dead-on. That means you’re not playing it properly, as most people can do much better with it.

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It’s not a bad tank if you’re a bad player in it.

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The statistics show that it’s consistently doing well.

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59% is not chance. That’s a pattern. You don’t get lucky that many times.

left anvil Apr 8, 2019, 2:36 AM

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I did 67% in t49 in 70 games

fast sail Apr 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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what is snapshot?

tacit bolt Apr 8, 2019, 3:00 AM

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IMHO T49 is slightly OP on PC due to autoaim..it can snap shot easily but on touch control it is just another balance tank with some hit and miss..that why when played LT or TD on T7 or T8 i just enable same control mode to avoid PC players' T49

quartz dragon Apr 8, 2019, 3:44 AM

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You need yo learn what kind of tank you can HESH/HEAT Pen in your T49 , spot for your team or cap

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many pro people succeed in it if they play it right , it also has light tank camo so use that to escape and such, i never driven the T49 but those are several advice people from one of the top clans gave me

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Plus not every kind if tank is for everyone

remote bolt Apr 8, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Can someone give me advice on driving AMX 13 90? When im using it,many of my shots is missed and didn't pen. Then after that my AMX always being targeted and get killed

inland osprey Apr 8, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Wait for an opportunity to flank, ie. when your mediums are drawing fire or distracting the enemy.
Basically support the meds.

remote bolt Apr 8, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Ok

patent prism Apr 8, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Buff the reload per she'll of the Bat Chat 25 T from 3.0 to 2.0 because even a tier 9 medium like the T54E1 can outclass it in the gun department

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Or maybe make it have 4 shells in the mag

fiery crown Apr 8, 2019, 9:52 AM

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It is light tank ....and dpm and pen of light tanks can be compromised with the camo rating and speed

inland osprey Apr 8, 2019, 9:57 AM

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I think the Batchat should have the alpha of a 105mm gun

cobalt creek Apr 8, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Yeah the gun doesn't need to be buffed imo, works just fine

solid gate Apr 8, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Guys are the grille 15 OP

calm inlet Apr 8, 2019, 10:11 AM

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no

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its one of the worst Tier X's atm

bronze pond Apr 8, 2019, 10:11 AM

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can we add a kv 222

solid gate Apr 8, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Oh ok

zealous anchor Apr 8, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Does grille 15 get used in tournaments?

calm inlet Apr 8, 2019, 10:17 AM

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pretty much never

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very occasionally on some maps. probably the most famous time to run a Grille 15 was on Fort Despair with RA1D's boost strat against Ace Ventura

solid gate Apr 8, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Are you guys have all of Blitz tank?

vivid lagoon Apr 8, 2019, 10:19 AM

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I don't have every tank in game

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If that's what you mean

solid gate Apr 8, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Nope

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But the special one

olive ridge Apr 8, 2019, 11:49 AM

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U mean the tog? It’s “special”

tender sundial Apr 8, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Y'all think they'll add cent 5/1 ever?

calm inlet Apr 8, 2019, 12:53 PM

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no

north bloom Apr 8, 2019, 1:51 PM

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nobody gonna talk about the premium wz 120 TD ?

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that armor profile is scarier than the foch

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240 on flat land,270 if angled on side,290 if its aiming down on hill and it reaches almost 400mm if side angled angled on hill

inland osprey Apr 8, 2019, 2:00 PM

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This has been talked before, and most of us believe that it is very OP.

left anvil Apr 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Every tier 8 tournament. Invited if u have a WZ 🥴

north bloom Apr 8, 2019, 2:12 PM

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no wonder im constantly invited to tourneys

left anvil Apr 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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It’s blatantly OP. WGing can lie they don’t sell p2w if they like

patent prism Apr 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@fiery crown but the bat chat is the only tier 10 Light it may as well be a medium

fallow venture Apr 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Because light tanks gameplay isn't really that much in Blitz, a heavy can spot

grim moss Apr 8, 2019, 6:50 PM

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@fast sail Snapshot is basically when you are moving and you stop for like 1 second to take a shot, that kind of shot is a snapshot.

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If your tank has good aim time, it's much easier.

stoic coral Apr 8, 2019, 6:59 PM

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A snapshot in 183

left anvil Apr 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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🤐

tulip edge Apr 8, 2019, 7:44 PM

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No SnapShot with KV2

near forge Apr 8, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Snapshot with a T95

thick trout Apr 8, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Snapshot with a T49

rose venture Apr 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Just asking why can’t tIX-X tanks be enriched permanently?

left anvil Apr 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Ya!! If possible I would enrich a couple tier 9 tanks

full kiln Apr 9, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Hey guys, is it better to get a higher wr vehicle for the event or get one with a lower one for the ac iv sentinel event

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Because comparing the stats of my MT-25 and my LTTB, the mt is better in wr as shown here

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Someone also told me my stats are quite good for someone with at least 1.7k battles, is this true?

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 1:14 AM

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yeah

tacit bolt Apr 9, 2019, 1:36 AM

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@full kiln both tanks you mention are LT...1000 battles far to low to judge your play style. If u plan to use for the even go get tier 6/7 tanks and grind it during the event..dont worry much of winrate because what u need right now is exposure.

dense horizon Apr 9, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Should i get the hellcat or the jackson when moving on from wolverine? I was thinking jackson, but what are yalls thoughts?

full kiln Apr 9, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Thanks @tacit bolt

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 2:13 AM

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what do u prefer faster reload? or more speed?@dense horizon

dense horizon Apr 9, 2019, 2:14 AM

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hmm good question

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probably faster reload

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 2:14 AM

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go Jackson then

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its a good tank, 5.7 sec reload and 225alpha is nice

dense horizon Apr 9, 2019, 2:15 AM

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and the name isnt as edgy as "hellcat" and thats always a plus i guess

misty wing Apr 9, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Can we pls have the keiler in the game

patent prism Apr 9, 2019, 3:32 AM

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The bat chat literally has a 105mm gun it should have 350 alpha

zealous anchor Apr 9, 2019, 3:54 AM

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I think it's been a reasonable trend for autoloaders to have lower alpha damage than majority of other tanks from their class, it's a balancing factor

tacit bolt Apr 9, 2019, 4:14 AM

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@dense horizon i will pick jackson any day..use the dpm with nice caliber gun together with mobility to support medium in mid range or use as hill fighter and optimize it's gun depression and turret armor if needed for close range or just be lazy and snipe at the rear, your pick..i replaced nerfed old t49 (t67) with jackson as seal clubber tank

solid gate Apr 9, 2019, 4:36 AM

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Wasnt the T49 a sealclubber pre nerf?

wraith breach Apr 9, 2019, 4:42 AM

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It's a sealclubber post nerf.

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It's been a sealclubber the whole time.\

solid gate Apr 9, 2019, 4:50 AM

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@solid gate possible

valid lodge Apr 9, 2019, 9:15 AM

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What's the Amx m4 49's effect armor when it's abusing that sweet gun dep?

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 9:15 AM

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OP

regal zealot Apr 9, 2019, 9:19 AM

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253mm with AP
265mm with APCR @valid lodge
280mm with HEAT

valid lodge Apr 9, 2019, 9:20 AM

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That's beautiful

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Effective armour... Not penetration...

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Surely... Im an idiot

regal zealot Apr 9, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Effective armor when accounting for normalization.
AP has 5° of normalization
APCR has 2°
HEAT has none @vivid lagoon

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Yeah

valid lodge Apr 9, 2019, 9:22 AM

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So if I'm abusing my gd i should be able to block anything that's under 253mm?

regal zealot Apr 9, 2019, 9:22 AM

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That should be the case for the hull

valid lodge Apr 9, 2019, 9:23 AM

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I'm assuming just the upper plate, correct?

regal zealot Apr 9, 2019, 9:24 AM

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The turret armor is thick, but flat, so you probably need more than that to get through.
Yes

valid lodge Apr 9, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Awesome. Thank you

regal zealot Apr 9, 2019, 9:25 AM

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NP.
Took those values from Armor Inspector

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 10:14 AM

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German tanks... Accuracy... VK 30.01P has good alpha and DPM but no armour

proper pilot Apr 9, 2019, 10:14 AM

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is vk45.03 tier 7?

rigid thunder Apr 9, 2019, 10:14 AM

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yes

proper pilot Apr 9, 2019, 10:14 AM

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that doesnt make sense

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Why not?

proper pilot Apr 9, 2019, 10:15 AM

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why is vk 45.02 tier 8

vivid lagoon Apr 9, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Because it's a tech tree tenk

little imp Apr 9, 2019, 10:16 AM

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The Heavy Iron Steel of the Panzer

rigid thunder Apr 9, 2019, 10:18 AM

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the VK 4503 has much weaker frontal armour and has the weak porsche turret from the tiger 2

silver verge Apr 9, 2019, 10:57 AM

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What you think about pz. V/IV

rigid thunder Apr 9, 2019, 10:58 AM

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baby E50

silver verge Apr 9, 2019, 10:58 AM

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Hmm

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I meant on a scale
Good
Avarage
Bad

stuck panther Apr 9, 2019, 11:08 AM

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On a scale of slam bam thank you ram: Amazing
Armor is subpar but better played hull down if you can help it. Gun is solid enough

remote bolt Apr 9, 2019, 11:11 AM

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How about the AMX 30 B? Is it good enough?

vital tree Apr 9, 2019, 11:14 AM

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I like German Tanks because some of them have good Armor good guns, and the guns are more accurate than the Russian Tanks

silver verge Apr 9, 2019, 11:18 AM

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I played first battle in this tank and it's insane!!!

remote bolt Apr 9, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Well AMX 30 B's front turret kinda strong

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Well AMX 30 B's front turret kinda strong

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If the leopard 1 turret can get damaged by HE,30 B cant

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Can give me some advice on countering the snipers? Every time i played i always get damaged by snipers

proper pilot Apr 9, 2019, 11:40 AM

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dont get shot by them

jolly olive Apr 9, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Pz v/iv good?

floral seal Apr 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

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I didn't get to the game yet, both tanks (VK and Pz) are bundled in one offer i guess? If so, how much does it cost?

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I'm interested if price won't be too high, VK has really bad armor, but decent gun

tropic kayak Apr 9, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Pz v/iv best tier 5 ramming machine

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I used it to ram meds and lights and tds it's front armor is good

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Vk has weak armor but good gun and fast reload

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The offer just camo out today and i have them since i year lol

dense horizon Apr 9, 2019, 2:00 PM

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i do not know many of these terms like alpha, seal clubber, and hill fighter, but i will use jackson thanks 😅

rigid thunder Apr 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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alpha stands for alpha damage, which is a gun's single shot average damage value
seal clubber is a person who plays at lower tier so as to trash new players, basically like clubbing a baby seal
hill fighter sounds playing a ridge line, which is abusing your gun's depression values to make yourself hard to hit when taking shots at the enemy

dense horizon Apr 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

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sounds complicated..especially the last one. Look i just get online and play lmao

left anvil Apr 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Pulled the m48 out after a long hibernation. The thing is borderline OP over a ridge..

atomic iron Apr 9, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Thoughts on the tier 9 and 10 Chinese TDs? I hardly ever see them in games and I think I've only shot at one from the front so I have no idea how the armor holds up.

regal parcel Apr 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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cause german tank were best,here u weakened german tanks and u make russian better,,plus german nice penetration and super accuracy,,,,in this game german should be best tans with strong turrets not russian

dusk valley Apr 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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The Pz V/IV is a good deal. The Vk 45.03 is just your average Tiger. It’s good, but so are the tech tree variants.

regal parcel Apr 9, 2019, 7:28 PM

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vk45 03 is good tank,good dpm no armor but that dpm he has is worth killin noobs,and he earns nice amount of credits

solid gate Apr 9, 2019, 7:40 PM

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hi guys

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should I buy the Leo 1 or the E50 M ?

dim sail Apr 9, 2019, 8:03 PM

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VK 45.03 an amx m4 45 are essentially the same tanks

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I guess the VK is a tiny bit better in every aspect but hardly a noticeable difference

tender sundial Apr 9, 2019, 8:09 PM

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@solid gate e50m for torties but I've heard leo1 is fun

dim sail Apr 9, 2019, 8:15 PM

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E50m is generally better

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Armour is important in the meta

solid gate Apr 9, 2019, 8:22 PM

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can u wg?

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balance helshing or better to delete it?

fiery bear Apr 9, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Why?

bold zenith Apr 9, 2019, 9:14 PM

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German tanks look good because they are sharp, without massive couplas

lapis crescent Apr 9, 2019, 10:04 PM

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The VK for sale has terrible front armor when not hull down

wraith breach Apr 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Yea. Weak bundle for sure. The Rev. has personality at least.

left anvil Apr 9, 2019, 10:29 PM

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☝️give this man a 🍪

solid gate Apr 9, 2019, 11:01 PM

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We need to see two things in this game. A Hummel, and a Strumpanzer IV Brummbar.

quartz dragon Apr 9, 2019, 11:11 PM

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@lapis crescent ? It surely has the Dpm , play it as a med , you have better pen and armor compared to a medium tank

regal zealot Apr 10, 2019, 1:07 AM

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@lapis crescent it also has a super weak turret, so hulldown isn’t its best bet.
Play it as a pseudo medium instead

tepid briar Apr 10, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I’m looking forward to a new line

jolly olive Apr 10, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I can’t wait to compare the Pz V/Vi to the t-25

lofty belfry Apr 10, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Nerf Smasher Period

tacit bolt Apr 10, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Vk 45 is my 1st premium tank and i got it free from WG and i love it..it was really good tank to bully and DPM unsuspected t7 heavy to death particularly IS tank..that before they buffed tiger 1 and tiger P but now imho tiger P is much better choice...

jade geyser Apr 10, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I like sidescraping in the VK 45.03, it actually does well doing that

glacial crest Apr 10, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Is it just me or does the SU-101 have downright terrible accuracy, even when fully aimed? Dispersion is 0.33 but I have a feeling the dispersion factors are awful

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 6:45 AM

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accuracy with the SU101? its called miss all game or hit all game

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and u don't really need to aim... just snapshot

glacial crest Apr 10, 2019, 6:57 AM

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That's kinda the problem, if you're not playing it as an angry med it won't hit anything that way

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But then again I play the 704 as an assault cannon

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 6:59 AM

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lol

glacial crest Apr 10, 2019, 7:03 AM

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Just had a battle in the 704 where all of the enemies just went in front of my gun...went well lol

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Lol

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268 or 263

glacial crest Apr 10, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Grinding both lines atm, I don't really like the 101

formal turret Apr 10, 2019, 7:36 AM

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I prefer 101 over 100m1 cause 101 armor is more reliable

frigid compass Apr 10, 2019, 9:04 AM

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the tiger p is awfully annoying

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it forces me to load premium ammo to penetrate it in most cases

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:04 AM

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arty in blitz, good idea or bad?

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Bad

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Maps are far too small for arty to work, and let's face it nobody likes a clicker

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:06 AM

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maybe enlarge map and increase team size from 7 to 10?

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i mean maybe arty slightly doesnt have enough skill, but that doesnt mean a lot of players would be playing it. A lot of arties can get flanked by lights as well

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They also have small health pools and thin armor

uncut geyser Apr 10, 2019, 10:07 AM

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What tank is this

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:09 AM

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arties @uncut geyser

uncut geyser Apr 10, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Ho ok

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It will be good in the game

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 10:11 AM

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@formal turret hmm well IDK about that... I reckon the 101 is more yolo and the 100m1 is the brawler

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@full kiln nobody likes arty is the thing

uncut geyser Apr 10, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Ö

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Ü

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Ű

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Not to mention, increasing team size and enlarging every single map will change the game's balance and gameplay by a large margin

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:14 AM

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@full kiln and I am starting to think you have never played WoT. First, artillery does not involve skill (especially lefh). Second, by the time the light reaches artillery the team would have gathered all around it trying to protect it. Third it is very annoying getting hit for 500 every 30 secs. Also there are atleast 60-80 SPGs in the waiting queue

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:14 AM

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The only arty I know which involves skill is the BC 155 55

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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The amazing thing is I can play WoT PC and WoT Blitz simultaneously
If I'm in an arty

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Autoloading arty is probably the best yes. As you have to slit your shells emongst the enemy team as then you wont't be doing anything for a long time. But that still does not change the fact that you only need to click

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Click and go

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:15 AM

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No the 155 58 is the magazine arty

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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@rigid thunder yes, that is why I said autoloading

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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The 155 55 needs the player to know how to utilize the very good mobility, and use it to cover up for the weak gun (only a 155mm for a tier 9 arty)

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 10:16 AM

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He said 155 55 for a start

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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@vivid lagoon i do not get what you mean "to start"

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:18 AM

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He's referring to the fact that what I said earlier wasn't "155 58" but "155 55"

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 10:18 AM

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He was talking about the BC 155 55 and then someone brought in the 155 58

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Oh, sorry did not see the numbers. I though we were taling about the tier 10 - the autoloading one the whole time. My bad

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Well, an 155mm arty at tier 9 does need some skill.

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:20 AM

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@inland osprey like what?

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:21 AM

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The bc 155 55 lol

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:21 AM

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How to maximize damage potential with such a small gun with good accuracy

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:22 AM

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At least the 155 58 has a 3 shot magazine, albeit with a 10s intra-clip reload

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Every artillery player focuses on weakly armored target, or on focusing on helping the team in a mid range combat. @inland osprey

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The only skill an SPG player needs is positioning which is leaned very easy by looking at enemy or allied arty players

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:24 AM

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You're forgetting estimating shell travel time

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@rigid thunder most arty players ( I once was ) shoot at camping/ stationary targets.

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:26 AM

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And heavies usually camp at spots where arty can't shoot.

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If they could, the heavies will usually move around to avoid fire, so it is crucial to lead shots.

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:27 AM

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XD, just have to say one word "prokhorovka"

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:28 AM

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((Malinovka))

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:29 AM

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that too when everybody rushes hill

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:31 AM

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But when you find yourself in Himmelsdorf…

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Welp

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:32 AM

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get to the corner where the rail road is. Easy shots on the people pushing hill

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Everyone's hell: Paris

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except for heavies

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Paris is the worst one yes, or the Great Wall. One of the two

rigid thunder Apr 10, 2019, 10:33 AM

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oh that map is so bad for arty

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:33 AM

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yeah.

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@inland osprey as a former arty player I know quite a lot about positioning so you can not beat me at my own game

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:36 AM

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And that's where the skill factor comes into play.
If you have better skills in arty, of course you are less likely to be beaten.

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Arty does indeed require skill to play

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:38 AM

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Ok. I stopped playing artillery a year and a half ago. And got myself an OBJ430U, FV4005, Leopard 1 and Rhm. Panzerwager. Also positioning is not a skill, as you go there every time you are on the same map. Positioning is only a skill for lights meds heavies and TDs. Arty may have indirect line of shot and still (very unlikely) one shot you.

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Nope
If you stay at the same spot every time, you could get blown up by counter-battery fire.

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:43 AM

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With light tanks you have to adapt to the enemy - for example if they have a wheeled light tank, you have to realize that the wheelie will get in position first and if you rush too, you will get spotted and killed while the french light survives and gets all the spotting. That is why there is a thing called counter -artillery where arty try to blind shoot each other on the most obvious spots. And the most obvious spots are the best (duh).

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:45 AM

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@pastel drum well, i have played both PC and blitz. But i was just thinking about arty in blitz. Im quite sorry if i had intruded on anything but I have only played 1.7k battles so i dont really have experience in battle

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Well yes, light tanks do require skill.

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:46 AM

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I mean, it just feels quite unfullfilling not seeing arties in game

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A lot of people have been saying that lights have the highest skill cap, is this true?

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:47 AM

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@full kiln what I meant with that arty is *** Never coming to blitz ***.

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:47 AM

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I play lights quite well though

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huh. i just really think about it but ok 👍

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:51 AM

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I don't really want arty in blitz tho.
We only have 7 tanks per team, and I don't want only 6 proper tanks and the other one missing half of its shots while waiting for a half a minute reload.

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:51 AM

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increasing the size of teams to 10 or 12

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:52 AM

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that will screw up rating battles.

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:52 AM

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maybe could work?

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:53 AM

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no. will have to wait ages for a match if you have high rating

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Has anyone noticed though, that even if you lose in a premium tank, you still dont get any credits lost

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Not true. Have lost a couple of games in CDC where I lost credits

inland osprey Apr 10, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Nah
It's just that you have to do exceptionally bad in them to lose credits.

full kiln Apr 10, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Yeah @inland osprey is right

formal turret Apr 10, 2019, 11:08 AM

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@vivid lagoon true well I did better in the 101 then in the 100m1 prob cause I wasn't use to that gun depression yet

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 11:09 AM

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There's one spot on castilla where the bush is broken and u can use it

remote bolt Apr 10, 2019, 11:10 AM

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@vivid lagoon really? It is a sniper spot?

vivid lagoon Apr 10, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Yep

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At the back on the bottom spawn I think

patent prism Apr 10, 2019, 12:34 PM

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@aurocia Explain the 120 mm autoloaders having 400 Alpha

remote bolt Apr 10, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Hope WG balance the Rhm and buff French tanks Armor

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And the gun penetration of French tanks and the Murica

atomic iron Apr 10, 2019, 2:03 PM

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French tanks aren't supposed to have good armor and there is nothing wrong with the Borsig or the penetration of French or American tanks

remote bolt Apr 10, 2019, 2:10 PM

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For me the Rhm too op

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French tanks pen is good but American tanks for me a bit suck

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Only high tier French that has good armor

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Maybe reduce the HP of tier 1-5 premium?

grizzled sinew Apr 10, 2019, 2:13 PM

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rhm op wtf?

jade geyser Apr 10, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Rhm has armor that is easily HE penned and the gun pen is only 215mm, for a TD at tier 8 using a tier 10 gun, that’s pretty low pen not to mention its gun handling sucks too

grizzled sinew Apr 10, 2019, 2:15 PM

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reload also looong

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isu Better

atomic iron Apr 10, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Umm the high tier french tanks except the TDs have no armor either but they aren't supposed to. They are about high damage output and mobility

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 2:27 PM

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@full kiln. You can lose credits in any tank if you play bad enough

jade geyser Apr 10, 2019, 2:36 PM

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^^

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 2:57 PM

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RHM used to be completely broken OP, but the dispersion nerfs, map changes, and equipment changes have hit it pretty hard. It’s still pretty solid though nonetheless

brisk orbit Apr 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

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tips for the borsig? already maxed emil and im not that used to turreted TDs

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Even when I was a 53% WR nub I was able to put up ~2700 damage per battle back in the day, and I have never come close to achieving a higher DPB in any tier VIII since, even though I’m a much stronger player now

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@brisk orbit Camp in the usual TD spots, and slam people with huge 640 damage shots while remaining unspotted. The turret means you will never have to break camo net to shoot, making you hard to spot. Later in the game, with the huge alpha, turret, and small profile, you can also play somewhat aggressively, but you’ll still need to be careful since 1100 HP and HE prone armor means it won’t last long in a straight fight

left anvil Apr 10, 2019, 4:27 PM

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It can work great as a close support tank behind heavys with the turret. You have to be a bit careful to make sure you shot in between enemy reloads but once mastered this is a great way to play turreted tds

fiery crown Apr 10, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I wish gun handling of Rhm could be buffed slightly after all the pen values of Rhm are bad for a TD

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But the Grille line on whole is pretty fun

onyx coral Apr 10, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Isn't pen only bad on the big damage gun?

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Confirmed, if you want the 640 damage, you get 226pen vs 258 pen for 460hp gun

calm inlet Apr 10, 2019, 6:16 PM

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but you get more HEAT pen

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on the big gun

onyx coral Apr 10, 2019, 6:23 PM

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truth

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either way you have options

turbid axle Apr 10, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Pz.Anko or the shielded Pz V/IV?

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:03 PM

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<@&510077723264286720> why only PRAMO's players will test the new tier 10 tank? Why don't make a test server and hear the community?

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:04 PM

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@hollow moth. It isn't only Pramo. It is top clans.

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:04 PM

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^^^

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RA1D is testing them too and IMMOR

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and a few others more

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@solid gate ok but why don't make a test server and let the community talk about?

tulip sail Apr 10, 2019, 8:05 PM

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There is a test server

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:06 PM

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So where is this server test with badger?

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:06 PM

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The "community" snipes in heavies and struggles to leave spawn. They do not need to offer input on new tanks 🤣

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:07 PM

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So if 10 snipe with tanks 1000 can't test the fv, u r a big community helper

tight fulcrum Apr 10, 2019, 8:07 PM

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🤔

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:08 PM

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@hollow moth that is how it is, just deal with it. Community helpers are not WG staff nor have anything to do with WG in general

tight fulcrum Apr 10, 2019, 8:09 PM

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^

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:10 PM

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But i want answers about it! And if they can't who can answer it?

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:10 PM

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@hollow moth WG doesn’t care about the opinions, or performance of the average player when it comes to tank balance. They even say that the group they look at is players on CIS with 55%-65-% WR

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:11 PM

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@hollow moth that is what WG decided to do. They gave the vehicle as a "reward". Join one of those clans and next time you may get the chance to test new vehicles

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:12 PM

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They use the statistics gathered during this public test to balance the tank, and they let you guys discuss your thoughts on it here on discord (and also on Facebook I believe), but they don’t take people’s opinions into account for actual balance purposes; they only look at the numbers from good players

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I think it's not fair, they got his prises and a new tank need to be tested in a test server, not whith the best players of the game with a new big dmg tank vs some players

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:14 PM

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It is fair. THe best players get rewarded for being the best. You be the best and get rewards

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Also it is it is not like you meed badger every single tier 10 games. More like one in 20 games

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:15 PM

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It’s already been tested on a separate supertest server. Now WG is gathering data on the live server. And like I said WG doesn’t care about how average players perform in tanks, they only care about how good players do in them

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Balancing and testing tanks isn't about being fair.

old pivot Apr 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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@pastel drum rewards = advantage over other players who have no choice

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:16 PM

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@pastel drum It’s not meant as a “reward”. Clear that nonsense out of your head

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@wise moth well it is kind of a reward for being the best.

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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@wise moth so war gaming don't care about community? Lololololol god company

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:18 PM

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It’s purely for balance purposes, and WG has made clear that it is a privilege. They have already taken away that privilege before on NA, and they likely will not hesitate in the future. @pastel drum

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@hollow moth They care about the community, but not for balance purposes

pastel drum Apr 10, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Yes. It is for feedback but getting to test the vehicle is some sort of compliment.

old pivot Apr 10, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Give the new game vehicles to the best players where they will have more edge over the others in battles.

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makes sense

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congrats

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@old pivot Test tanks aren’t always good moron; the 113 was terrible in its test iteration; same goes for Revalorise and Lorraine 40t which all received huge buffs before they were released

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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It is common knowledge that wargaming looks at the stats of 55 to 65% win rate players. Putting test tanks in the hands of the average player would not give wargaming the data that it needs to balance the tank appropriately.

old pivot Apr 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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ajudante da comunidade chamando um jogador com uma opinião diferente de idiota

onyx coral Apr 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I mean its what these guys are saying, WG wants people that have proven they have the knowledge of advanced mechanics to see if a new tank could be made OP given its current stats. They will not get a good indication of the tank if they get feedback/data from less experienced players.

old pivot Apr 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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ok, faz sentido n faz? @hollow moth

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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If you want to be part of testing of new tanks the solution is simple. Become a stellar player enjoyed a top clan.

@old pivot. This is the English server. Speak English.

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@old pivot your opinion is wrong; Google translate is a thing by the way; you can’t just use a different language and expect me not to understand

old pivot Apr 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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there is no wrong opinion, so it's called opinion

hollow moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Lol

wise moth Apr 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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You’re making a claim of fact, not an opinion. You stated “test tanks give the best players even more of an advantage”; this is blatantly disprovable. It’s no different from you saying “The IS-3 has 800 damage per shot”. I can call you a moron for stating something blatantly false, because it’s not an opinion

solid gate Apr 10, 2019, 8:28 PM

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You're right there is no wrong opinions... But there are bad opinions. Your opinion is bad.

left anvil Apr 10, 2019, 8:30 PM

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🤐