vehicles-discussion

[pulsar sinew]

Both work well

[solid gate]

I think I'll switch over to the net and see what's what.

[brisk orbit]

apparently maxing out both top guns on nashorn and jagdpanzer IV gets you all the guns on the Jpantjer

except the 10.5cm one

[west stag]

Well Yeah

[brisk orbit]

also, jpanther or st emil?

[west stag]

Depends on your play style, emil is a literal glass cannon

[brisk orbit]

eh, ill take emil

dont really like having turret only TDs

[west stag]

When you get the Rhm use the 150, heat more than makes up for the pen lackluster

its more punishing to enemies and towards the end of the game you can flank and pen the sides/reasons of some tanks and rears of most heavies with HE for 1k damage

[brisk orbit]

doesnt borsig have like a quasi turret that can turn a bit

[west stag]

The 1.28 is the more reliable gun, but the 1.5 is the gun you can abuse of your a decent player

tier 8+ have turrets

[brisk orbit]

sighs in emil grind

[west stag]

AMD thats why I have 137k free XP lol

[brisk orbit]

man your amount of free xp would probably get me my t-54 im grinding for

[west stag]

Hey literally if you dont mind spending $17 bucks... Get the gold offers with the extra value. It adds up to 134k free XP so somewhere around there lol

the only question is... What to use it on... Hmmm

Can literally almost just research a tier 9. Probably only have to play like 30 games in the tier 8 lols

[brisk orbit]

aight

[west stag]

Actually its even more than that... I forgot I spent 1500 gold on my IS5

So correctly... Probably around 150-70k I'm guessing

[brisk orbit]

dem

[west stag]

All for like 17 bucks lol

[brisk orbit]

which gold bundle

[west stag]

The ones that give you extra value @brisk orbit the special ones (one time offers things, idk if they have them on asia)

But from experience the like $20 Dall or bundle is good value anyway

But the one time ones are the way to go tbh if you have them

[brisk orbit]

@west stag like the new get more for one

[solid gate]

So does this count as vehicles discussion? Xd if I love tanks so much

Why not make my own? out of LEGO

this is a TT-62 Heavy a Kirk Republic tank

The big Red Barrel on the back is it’s fuel tank the turret gun is a Kirk Vickerz type 62 btw this all comes from imagination

It’s tracks are a trackspeiler type 35 elite this makes the top speed about 27 m/h

It operates with a group of 9 2 drivers 2 support loaders 1 commander 2 radar men 2 people who try so hard to rotate the turret

(Tier 8)

[jade geyser]

what is this...thing...youve created?

[devout tapir]

Bruh what is that lmao

Doesn't even look like a tank. Doesn't look like anything tbh

[solid gate]

lol do not blame me it’s my friends I bursted out laughing

He told me to say I created it

Btw saying it doesn’t look like anything well it’s something

[devout tapir]

Yeah it's a mess lmao

[brisk orbit]

@solid gate because I blinked my head is gone now

[devout tapir]

Yee I'm sure looking at whatever that thing is, can make anybody lose their head.

[brisk orbit]

it's scp-173

if you blink he snaps your head

[devout tapir]

But what if you wink 🤔

[brisk orbit]

you live

[devout tapir]

Perfect strategy to use against it

[brisk orbit]

#off-topic-discussion

[stiff palm]

how much does the legendary camouflage of the t57 heavy cost

[neon remnant]

landkreuzer p.1000 ratte in blitz? how does it sounds? =]]]]

[teal yarrow]

@errant yoke you asked question and replied yourself too 🤔

[regal zealot]

@hexed wagon I’d recommend to you Sariel. He has made quite a few RC LEGO tanks, like the Tiger I, Maus and the Rudy

[viscid harbor]

2 Chi-Ha's?

[regal zealot]

Yep. A Chinese and a Japanese

[gilded ingot]

Chinese chi ha is better

Has cool Chinese exclusive camo

[short flame]

umh??? China and Japan weren't allied

what kind of historical accuracy is that?

[tulip sail]

Russia and Germany weren't either but Germany used kv1s kv2s t34s

[solid gate]

Captured tanks
SU-76I and SU-85I were captured Panzer III and Panzer IV

[tulip sail]

Yup Although iirc China had bought those from Japan post war but ill have to double check that

[short flame]

thanks sherlocks, captured tanks shouldn't be in Tech tree 🙂 🔫

i dont think captured KV-1s helped germany to build tiger II 🙂 🔫 🔫 🔫 🔫

[solid gate]

Then how do you want to grind Chinese tree if there’s nothing until tier 7

[short flame]

Yes, there is. there are some Allies' tanks copies

Not an ENEMY CAPTURED tank, not even a copy, it has literally same name. cant be in a tech tree.

[solid gate]

« I don’t think captured KV-1s helped Germany to build Tiger II »
I don’t think allies tanks given to China helped them building their own tanks either

[short flame]

they did because they arent the same tanks
they used soviet's blueprints to build their tanks

that Chi-Ha has even the same name

and im sure that there are low tier real chineese tanks, i dont think they were using IS-2s from the begin and captured some Chi-Has.

[solid gate]

They didn’t captured those ones they bought them post war

[short flame]

they bought Chi-Ha postwar? at what purpose? ..

[solid gate]

They had no tanks literally

Or maybe some Renault FTs from WW1

[short flame]

if China had no tanks, why the HECK put china tech tree in wot??
Put italy first

nab wg

[solid gate]

I can’t agree more here. I would have preferred Italy, Czechoslovakia or Swede

[short flame]

auto reloaders pls

[solid gate]

Pizza provisions pls

[short flame]

yes tes

[mighty canyon]

What has happend to the poor T82

[twilit wigeon]

got nerfed to the absolute ground

[solid gate]

Got snapped by Thanos

[fair vigil]

Hey guys, I’m a little lost on how to take a kv1 down from the front any suggestions?

[jade geyser]

If you're in the Leopard, just go die, there is no taking a KV-1 down frontally XD But most mediums and pretty much every other heavy can pen the lower glacias of it at least, also TDs as well

[fair vigil]

Ok thanks

[jade geyser]

I guess just dont try brawling it 1v1 frontally, try to give yourself an edge over the KV is possible, so if in the Sherman, hull down and use the gun mantle to block the KV shots while you're penning his weakpoints

Or just flank it

It's got pretty bad rotational qualities last I checked

[fair vigil]

Thanks for the advice

[jade geyser]

No prob, same advice sticks for virtually every encounter, try to give yourself as many advantages as possible over the enemy

[wispy kindle]

hi

King/tiger#4074

.

@king/tiger#4074

Welp

[solid gate]

Can we have arty added

[thick trout]

No

[solid gate]

Why

[thick trout]

Maps arent big enough

[jade geyser]

Also, arties are point-click adventures

[tulip edge]

Why would you want arty on blitz now..
Maps are clearly unsuitable not to mention its the introduction of another class that camps and can hit you with big caliber guns. Theres already enough hatred towards tds

[jade geyser]

Specifically the 183

Basically, if arties came to blitz, their stats would have to be nerfed not just to the ground, but through it to make em playable on the Blitz maps

[ember atlas]

No arty pls, let's have infantry w/ panzerfaust 😃

[short raptor]

Ok, so what is everybody’s opinion on the Jageroo? I just cannot figure this tank out even after playing hundreds of battles in it. Sometimes it’s good, a lot of the time it’s meh or horrible, sometimes the gun is epic, other times it makes you want to throw your phone, sometimes the armor@is fantastic, othertimes you can’t bounce a shot to save your life. WHAT IS WITH THIS TANK!?

I absolutely adore the Jagdtiger, and I absolutely adore the whole line, but the capstone of the line plays nothing like the rest of it, I am so confused and conflicted, plz help

[ember atlas]

play it hull down and stay close to hard cover

play it 2nd line

make sure your team is close to you

[past crater]

Cheeks are paper

[short raptor]

@ember atlas I know all of that, I’ve played over 300 battles in it. I’m not asking how to play it necessarily, but for your thoughts on the tank and how it plays for you

And there’s only so much hull-down you can do with only 6 degrees of gun depression

[ember atlas]

i practice to play tds that have no armor at all.... grill, wt/pz4 and rhm than i play jageroo.... much easier

maybe play it as a fv183......

[short raptor]

The second I camp in the back of the map in the Jageroo is the second someone had better put me down because I’ve grown senile

[ember atlas]

i like the tank but it is a bit to slow

a faster traverse speed will be more than welcome

[jade geyser]

Honestly, whenever I have tried sniping in the Jageroo, or any TD really, all of sudden, not one enemy is near me, they're all somewhere else

[short raptor]

Or just anything really...I know this sounds like I’m just tagging on this tank, but I’m genuinely trying to find redeemable traits in it. 1: it’s huge, you can’t get good cover anywhere because your larger than most 2 story houses, 2: it can’t turn or move (even the Jagdtiger has a bit of get-up-and-go) 3: your gun traverse side-to side is horrid even though side-scraping is one of your main means of defense, 4: it really doesn’t play like the Jagdtiger as the gun is just such a departure

[dry notch]

I hope the type 62 goes on sale again. Id like to pick one up to finish my collection of 75 tanks, 3 of each class from tiers 6-8 & 10.
Im missing some premium light tanks.

[astral pendant]

Hi

[worldly umbra]

Does anyone know any youtubers that have reviewed the collectors' tanks recently?

[turbid mantle]

Jageroo was a huge let down for me. I loved the ferd and the jagdtiger, extremely good tanks. In fact it only took me a decent weekend with a prem acc and alot of saved boosters to get through the jtiger. I knew the jager was gonna be slugish with the 75% crew but even when i got the crew to 90% it still felt like a cargo ship to drive. Like some of you said, gun was hit or miss, and then penning something was an entirely different issue. The final straw for me is when i had the broadside hull of a t30 using AP, bounced. In that same game bounced off the front of the type 61s hull, both shots taken with the target on level ground. The armor was decent, but not worth the mobility you have to pay to have it and the gun. I would buy it back instantly even if it got 3 more degrees traverse but yea, my exprience was least to say unpleasant

Granted, im def not a super good player, but still i didnt play it like a total nub.

[west stag]

A good jageroo player is more scary than a good 183 player I imagine. 183 doesn't have a lot going for it besides its gun. The jageroos gun isn't that much alpha less comparatively, has much better gun stat wise... And armor unlike the 183... So it has apects that are a lot more abusable by a good player than the 183 does.

But that's just my opinion. Haven't played either, just I rather run into a good 183 player than a good jageroo player

[vale cape]

@turbid mantle I can't stand the jagdtiger

it' such a horrible tank

The jagdtiger's armour is non- existent for the tier, other that the super-structure...and god forbid you encounter meds...ugh...if you get stuck with meds, you're dead

[solid gate]

What about the constant low rolls on Jageroo ?

[vale cape]

I don't have the jageroo...I'm just saying that the jagdtiger sucks

[solid gate]

Yeah I didn’t like it either

[amber dove]

The Grille needs a traverse buff

[rigid stirrup]

xd

Arty Is Fair And Balanced

[zinc marlin]

Make every tank the Bob Semple for April fools

[solid gate]

^

[twilit wigeon]

We should have a Bob Semple event, where everyone is in a Bob Semple and fights each other

[solid gate]

^

[twilit wigeon]

Like that 100 years of Tanks event a long time ago

[lilac dawn]

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[rigid stirrup]

dam son

[uncut geyser]

Look good

[tough dune]

Jageru can sidescrape and thats it. If it is hulldown, its cupola gets sniped or will get penned through superstructure by skill ammo.

Does anyone even get intimidated when it comes around? 183/T110E3 have bigger fear factor imo. 183 for the high pen with alpha and T110E3 for the frontal armour.

Jageru takes both aspects of them and instead of being better or somewhere in between, it has turned out to be worse than both of them.

[noble bolt]

Whoever says artillery should be added should be banned forever

[pastel drum]

@tough dune I only get intimidated by a 183

[solid gate]

@solid gate people in 50 years gonna ask what the hell is a bob semple?

Indeed.

[jovial moon]

Chinese med line or hts?

[regal zealot]

All three are pretty decent

[hollow moth]

I think i can research Obj 268 first than my supply access

[tall nova]

@solid gate Bob Semple but its better

[inland osprey]

Just got the Obj 140, saving up money for first row of equipment.
What to expect?

[tepid briar]

Whenever a new premium comes out I have one of two reactions:

Oh joooooooy a new tank to shame with my op American turret

Or

Meh more pay to win crap

[thick trout]

Me except with my OP german gun ^

[tepid briar]

Don’t get me wrong I have some premium tanks and will list them off: TOG II, Loza’s Sherman, T14, Pz iv S

But I choose non op tanks

I only use them for credits

[thick trout]

I buy prems when theyre on sale

Either thatbor i buy gold on sale and wait until a good rare prem

[solid gate]

I hope the KV-2 Smasher event is doable

[thick trout]

It should be, just a long grind needed

[tepid briar]

Start your wallets, on your mark, get set, spend

[hearty atlas]

Steam sale survival

[short flame]

i got all my prem tanks for free

[jade geyser]

Only one I got through purchase with real money was T-34, none of my other premiums were bought

[viscid dragon]

T-34 ot T34?

[jade geyser]

The American one

[thick trout]

T34 then

[rancid mauve]

T34 is beautiful

Enjoy it!! I love it

Tog II is love too

[thick trout]

You better hope theres a hill somewhere for the T34

[rancid mauve]

Where is there never a hill?

[thick trout]

Dead rails meds side

[rancid mauve]

Mmmm you’re right about that

[jolly olive]

my ISU wants to shoot ur lower plate

[solid gate]

Spam HE at the cupola is it’s hulldown 😛

[ocean summit]

When will we ever see more JPN tech tree tanks (not calling for the heavies of course)
Mainly interested in something like the JPN tank destroyers
Since the JPN tech tree is the most neglected..
Having only a single line to grind down is a lil saddening

[thick trout]

I believe a new tech tree is coming soon (dont quote me) so maybe the Japanese will have to wait for a bit

[ocean summit]

Maybe after 5 years we'll see something

JPN premium tank that's just a reskin of an already existing tech tree tank

[thick trout]

Mayhe, but dont expect too much. It is WG you know

[ocean summit]

Oh I know, lol, one would have to be a fool to have high expectations

[thick trout]

Maybe we will be able to get them through... crates...

[solid gate]

Nerf vk 100

[thick trout]

Why?

[solid gate]

I think that it's lil bit op for the tier.

[valid lodge]

Why?

[tulip sail]

Aside from a slight traverse nerf I dont think it needs one

[thick trout]

Its a decent tank, its not as op as some of the other tanks out there

[dim sail]

VK 100 is good but not op

Why are people always complaining about it

[solid gate]

Idk

[dim sail]

It's cupola isn't that hard to hit

[solid gate]

It isn't

But I hate to see it on enemy side.

[valid lodge]

Most of the time i hear/see people complaining about the vk is because they can't frontally 1v1 a hulldown angled super heavy with their light tank. Or that they lose the 1v1 with a tier 7 heavy.

If you think it needs a nerf,please explain why it needs it and how you would nerf it. It's not a bad tank but i wouldn't say it's op. It might need a small traverse but outside of that I think it's perfectly fine

[fleet berry]

KaOZ2516#4826 has been warned.

[long tendon]

vk 100 isnt op because its slow, it has a long reload time and you can quite easily pen the bottom part of the front armour

[viral pawn]

vk100 op

[long tendon]

there are tanks that are way more op which you can just outright buy

so because you have to actually play the game to get the vk it isnt in every single game

things like the drac and the helsing are in every game which is very annoying

[near forge]

The VK 100.01 (P) is not OP by any means. An experienced player in it is dangerous, yes, but 90% of the people who have it just sit there and rotate their turrets. The only real thing it has going for it is the armor on places where people would auto lock and not even take the time to carefully aim their shot. It is only as OP as you make it.

And Helsing isn't a good tank, it just has an annoying amount of Alpha dump

[long tendon]

yeah exactly

i sit there and get hit with 450 damage and i say why

[viscid dragon]

It is a tank destroyer, and lacks in hitpoints

[long tendon]

true but its armour is also annoying cause its very spread

[valid lodge]

Helsing has really poor turret traverse you can combat that by turning your tank but then you give up that armor. Not to mention the kv-2 can one shot the helsing if it exposes its lower hull

[long tendon]

yeah but know we have to go through all these tactics just to counter a helsing which to be honest you shouldnt have to do

[valid lodge]

Can you be more specific?

[desert cargo]

Helsing is slightly better than certain tech tree tanks. In the hands of a good player, the carry potential is insane

ofc, good players are already insane

[bright folio]

The Helsing is much better than some tanks at it’s tier

The at 7, for example

[valid lodge]

At-7 is turretless and a different playstyle.

[bright folio]

Or the vk 3002 m

[valid lodge]

Is the vk similar to a turreted TD with frontal armor in playstyle?

[near forge]

Something tells me the answer is yes

[bright folio]

It has similar mobility and better armor

[valid lodge]

Haven't played the vk 3002m or atleast can't think of what it is off the top of my head

[bright folio]

Wait...

I meant 3002 d. 3002m is a tier 6 panther

Pre-5.5, the 3002m was the predecessor to the panthers, the successor to the 3001h

[valid lodge]

Haven't played the vk 3002d yet

I'll be fair though as i don't think there are many tanks like the hellsing. Given it's double barrel is pretty unique.

To rephrase i think hellsing is good, but not op

[bright folio]

Are there any tanks that you think are op?

[valid lodge]

Closest off the top my head are probably the Drac and the premium WZ tier 8 td

I say drac because the speed of that thing, plus it's hp pool, it's armor is a bit he troll (might be me being dumb) it's ram/push ability.
You can track it but quick repairing negates that. Supposedly it's "easy" to light on fire but being as a full speed Drac whipping from cover to cover is a hard hit compined with its hp pool and consumables those downsides are negated pretty well.

Kv-2 might be close to OP given it's ability to one shot tanks, but it isn't as easy to one shot.

[ocean summit]

Doesn't the Drac also have spaced armor?

[alpine dagger]

Are those prem M6 of tier 7/8 really worth to buy? Are they op?

[lusty nacelle]

@ocean summit it has spaced armor on the side of the hull, and a bit on the corner of the turret

[ocean summit]

Maybe it should become a collector tank

[lusty nacelle]

The Drac? No

I will be annoyed if they make the Drac a collector and then nerf it

[tulip sail]

Wouldn't do much

[lusty nacelle]

I wasted so much time in the Christmas event trying to get that tank

[valid lodge]

@alpine dagger
I have them both and relatively enjoyed both. I prefer the Exp but both are good tanks. I wouldn't consider them op as almost all of their armor is up front. They're both pretty big and haave paper sides. The mini exp has stronger back turret armor than the Exp.

I got my Exp from auction for 8500 however the bundle is pretty good

[grim moss]

Drac is literally a CDC which is faster and a tier lower.

[ocean summit]

A lot smaller, too

[tame gulch]

Is the king tiger or the löwe the panzerkampfwagen VII?

[wooden copper]

Tf is a kampfwagen

[foggy jasper]

camp wagon

[twilit wigeon]

there's a Durchbruchswagen 2

[wooden copper]

Tf is a durchbruchs

[foggy jasper]

dutch brush wagon

[mighty epoch]

XD

[solid gate]

@here im playing the AMX 13 90. i am on like 300 credits. not much, i mean i cant even repair my tank lmao. i know if i play even better then i can earn up to 50,000 credits per game. i am already good with a 57% WR but im just not up to my standards lately. i have decided to passive scout for creds. any tips? i mostly want well known spots for passive spotting with a easy getaway hill or something.. Thanks

[grim moss]

Yeah try to not get hit, since repair costs can add up pretty quick.

[solid gate]

10/10 did not know that but thanks anyway lol

[grim moss]

You don't have to be rude about it :/

[solid gate]

@solid gate as a recommendation, I would sell all of the ammo and provisions on tanks that you don’t use except for one tank that you know is guaranteed to earn you credits if you get in a pinch. Then, I would activate premium Time and alternate the AMX and the Credit earner, depending on how much you have and can earn.

I was thinking the same, @solid gate but I have done that anyway, I was wondering how to properly play the AMX.. thank you anyways!

The AMX is best played the way you described: mainly scout the enemy and don’t rely on ur gun too much, but while the enemies are focusing your teammates use the peek a boom technique and clip them once they fire.

This is rare

I’ve done that only once in a JG

[inland osprey]

Automatic threat detection
Bounce the big gun, ignore the smol gun

[zealous sluice]

how is the WZ-111G Ft? (tier 8). im not sure if i wanna get it. Its either that or Rhm (gonna be painful grind). Which should i get?

[zealous sluice]

oof ur name lol

[rancid mauve]

Did someone say KV2 is OP? 🤔🤔

KV2 revolves around RNG (luck). Proper heavy traverse numbers (IMO as should be), can bounce shots but not impenetrable, slow turret traverse.

It was a wonderful fun factor, which I think loads of people continue to forget lol. Gun can one shot most tier 6 tanks (lights/meds), a couple tier 7 tanks (lights/meds) and plays as a heavy or TD.

Lovely tank because of it’s fun factor, but not OP.
22 second reload feels like an eternity 😂

[old cargo]

WZ113GFT is insane ;-;

[tulip sail]

But it's so unrealistic (the real one jammed its turret when it shot at certain angles and its turret is too fast )

[rancid mauve]

Agreed. It isn’t realistic.

[tulip sail]

Its quite triggering

[rancid mauve]

Oh yeah for sure! I can only play it for a few games at a time because it is rage inducing lol

[tulip sail]

I dont ask for a tank to be 100% historic but just a bit

[rancid mauve]

Fair enough I’d say

[dense gust]

Hi guys!

Quick question, what do you guys think about the T 25 AT?

[jolly olive]

I’ve never played it, but it seems to be pretty fast with a decent gun

armor can also bounce some hits from the mantlet and frontally from low tier tanks

[tulip sail]

Its alright wasnt op wasnt bad either but I prefer the other one

[jolly olive]

T25/2?

[tulip sail]

Yeah that was actually a fun tank

[jolly olive]

Yeah I would do that line because you get the T28 prot and the t30 which are both awesome

Although the E3 is better than the E4, imo

[tulip sail]

Yeah but I prefer not to rate vehicles on what they get afterwards

[jolly olive]

true

If I did that line, I would play it for those though, not the low tiers

RN I’m doing the object 268 line which is really fun

[tulip sail]

The lowish tiers were pretty fun

[jolly olive]

I enjoyed the SU-100

[tulip sail]

Me too

[jolly olive]

The SU-85 was ok but the 100 is more fun at its tier

The SU-85B was pretty beast

[tulip sail]

I like my tds and idk I liked em both about the same and yeah till it got nerfed

[jolly olive]

I still have the SU-76 but I haven’t played it much since I got the SU-76I

[tulip sail]

I dont have either I've got the su85i though and I quite like that one

[jolly olive]

RN I’m on the ISU-152, and with the top gun it’s loads of fun

[tulip sail]

Its loads of fun period

[jolly olive]

the SU-152 was pretty fun also, but after using the ISUs gun it’s hard to go back

[tulip sail]

My bad I thought you ment the su not isu

[jolly olive]

I got the SU-100M1 but I haven’t progressed much in it

Yeah with the SU gun the ISU is horrible, but with the BL-10 the ISU is amazing

[tulip sail]

I think I researched it but idk

[jolly olive]

I almost got the su-85I

but I’m saving for the ISU-122S or the ISU-130, whichever hits the store first

[tulip sail]

It's a fun td and does well even against t6 not great against t6though

And from what I know both of those are good tds

[jolly olive]

yeah

It’s a sniper tank right?

[tulip sail]

Not 100% sure but that's how I've seen it used

[dense gust]

what about the jagdpanther compared to the T25 AT?

[tulip sail]

Jagdpanther

[dense gust]

ok, thanks for the tip guys

[tulip sail]

Np

[dense gust]

I was planning on selling my jagdpanzer IV, since i think its guns are a little weak

[brittle snow]

buff t28 prot engine to 750hp?

so its "balanced" with the T28 defender

[brisk orbit]

should i sell my jagdpanzer iv? I already have nashorn and dont plan on using it anytime soon

[solid gate]

@brisk orbit personally it’s one of the best T6s because of its reload, but if you never use it no point in keeping it as it will always be there for later

[tame gulch]

Watch them make it collector all the sudden

[near forge]

I'm Sorry, the German Tech Tree has become too op. We are making it collector status in 6.0, and each tank sellable for two gold and a used napkin. Happy Tanking!

[solid gate]

Despacito 28 announced by WG!!!
WoTB will become a collector game, they said

[pastel drum]

^

[languid needle]

guys, now all the tanks in game will have a defender version, it will only cost 34k gold

[inland osprey]

FV215B 183 Defender

[pastel drum]

^^^we all want that^^^

[solid gate]

Probably buffed reload and mobility

[granite iris]

@solid gate I ended up giving up on Jagp IV as I performed much better with SU100 that I still use today. Did I miss something? Should I try again?

[thick trout]

Use your amazing dpm

[solid gate]

@granite iris depends on how long ago that was... the jgs reload has been buffed in one of the more recent updates to the point where it’s incredibly fast for a T6

[granite iris]

OK I missed that. I sold it 9 months ago or so

[thick trout]

Its got a reload like 4.1 or something stupidly low for its 200 alpha

[solid gate]

4.1 with rammer I believe, 4.4 without

[thick trout]

I haven't played the jpiv in ages, thanks for reminding me of my favourite tier 6. I think ill go and try it out now...

[solid gate]

i loved the T34-85

but now im at T-43 grinding for T-44

[tulip edge]

I loved t43 i found it rather enjoyable

[thick trout]

^

I wasnt too keen on the T 34 85 when i first playef it but i bought it back now and its pretty enjoyable

[hollow moth]

Why everybody prefer to hit a track than the hull? ;-;

[foggy jasper]

the t-43 is a peekaboom machine

[austere basin]

why play T43 when you have Rudy 😄

[solid gate]

Because is always on sale

And it’s less fat

[bright folio]

I think that it’s also faster and it has a turret that’s farther forward

[jade geyser]

T-43 is one of the few tanks I've gotten seven kills in, I honestly liked it, it had decent dpm for T7

[lusty nacelle]

Had?

[jade geyser]

Sorry, I was putting that in the past tense along with when I owned it, I think it still does have good dpm for its tier of medium tank

[foggy jasper]

best tier 6 tank for tourneys?

[bright folio]

Kv1s/kv2/arl44/kuro mori mine/bromwell/other premium meds

Oh and su 100 y

[valid lodge]

Pz38h is best tier 2. Or atleast was

Basically 95%of tanks had trouble penning it unless you were tier 3. Most that could pen it that weren't tier 3 needed gold to even try and pen

[solid gate]

i want the keni back

best tank

[stuck bough]

Becouse there are fewer tanks in the mobile version

[maiden drum]

How is the obj 263?

[solid gate]

Stronk

[solid gate]

It’s good but most tanks can pen the mantlet fairly easily

It’s strong at sniping and medium tank bullying. By med tank bullying I mean ramming it full speed and showing only your front lol

[stark siren]

JPiv is 220 alpha not 200, pretty big difference that matters

[atomic pilot]

Does anyone have any recommendations what is the are best loadout for t-54?

[solid gate]

Fake tank

[west stag]

@solid gate Actually it means something like gun carrier for the chinese military

I get the jokw though lol

Just pointing out it has a actual meaning. I see so many people saying that FT isn't used in the Chinese military at all, it is.

[inland osprey]

Yeah, FT means anti-tank.
WZ is a factory designation, which means armored combat vehicle

[solid gate]

What is the most noob friendly t10?

[wraith bough]

Is7

[solid gate]

WZ-121 maybe?

Is4 seems better than is7

[inland osprey]

FV215B 183 for damage per battle, IS-7 for survivability

[vivid juniper]

Hi

[wraith bough]

But the grind to the is4 is not a good experience for new players

[inland osprey]

I quit at the KV-4.
If you don't have a load of free xp, I don't suggest you going on that route.

[wraith bough]

It you are playing for fun t57heavy line is the best, if playing to learn is7

[solid gate]

Was thinking of t110e5 for USA but not sure

[inland osprey]

French heavies are most user-friendly
Starting at the AMX 50 100

[wraith bough]

Not if you want to hide behind a rock and then realised your too tall and people can easily shoot your turret

[solid gate]

hah

[inland osprey]

Did I mention the fact that it likes to get 1k damage from enemy TD guns?

Actually, the Russian IS tanks are good for newbies imo

[solid gate]

Russian tanks are good for newbies
see: kv1 and kv1s

[inland osprey]

KV-2

[solid gate]

reload time doesn't feel easy to play

also base pen of 35

[inland osprey]

KV-2 doesn't really need skills to play
Like a lottery machine on tracks

[solid gate]

unless you instantly unlock the better guns, it is pretty useless

[inland osprey]

I've literally blasted a Gravedigger side for 1k damage at full speed

[solid gate]

I never saw one

[inland osprey]

And sometimes I hit the enemy tank's gun at point blank and deal 0 damage

[solid gate]

I'm about to get ru251

Really like how vk28 is, i hope armor doesn't get worse

[inland osprey]

RU?
Basically 20mm armor all around

[solid gate]

dang

how reliable is the gun

base one that is

[inland osprey]

You wanna look out for the T49 light tank which mounts the 152mm XM launcher

Um
The RU doesn't have a top gun
Its stock gun is its top gun
And it is extremely reliable

[solid gate]

OH WAIT

i meant SP I C

[inland osprey]

Oh
That
Same, 20mm armor, but slower

Gun is very good

[solid gate]

base?

or the autoloader?

[inland osprey]

Both are good, but autoloader is better imo

[solid gate]

literally never used free xp, only have 21k rn

feels useless sometimes

[inland osprey]

SP1C stock grind is fairly painless.
In fact the whole line has a painless grind except the tier 9 Leopard PTA.
If you're saving up free XP I suggest you keep them until you get the Leopard PTA.

[solid gate]

i am

i just hope that leopard 1 wont be a disappointing mess

it probably will be my first t10

[inland osprey]

It is quite good.
Second best mobility of all tier 10s.
Accurate and powerful gun.
Downside is ~80mm armor, slightly more than the Batchat.

[solid gate]

side scraping? is it capable in that?

[inland osprey]

No
Not a chance

You're better off at hulldown than sidescraping

[hidden pawn]

@solid gate i would say youre going the wrong line, it would be better if u had go thru the russian medium line

[fiery crown]

Sp1c is fodder for Dracs and t49s...... count Russian tds in too

And the gun is not that good .....it has bad shell velocity... though the camo rating and the tank looks cute.....lol

And the interclip reload also seems to big ......you have to wait 3.5 seconds.....thats a lot .....you can't even unload your clip most of the times and so is its acceleration and top speed is not good.....it is kind of sluggish

[rancid mauve]

T49 for its fun and annoyance factor lol

Love running around at 68 km/h and derping HE in the rear of a Lowe or IS lol

[fiery crown]

HE at Lowe rear????

[jovial moon]

Kv4 seems weak now! Or is it just me who thinks that

[dusky stone]

Just you?

[clear osprey]

Su122 54 needs buff

[rancid mauve]

@fiery crown you’ve never done it??

HEAT goes through too

[olive ridge]

I just unlocked the kv4, have 80 battles at 67%. im a 54% player. Might be just you @jovial moon

[fiery crown]

Nope.....I usually fire heat ...can you tell me HE spot @rancid mauve

[rancid mauve]

The rear of Lowe can be penned with HE. I haven’t been playing for a couple days so I need to check again but I think HE goes. But only the rear.

[solid gate]

Oh well

I might just go for t110e5 then

maus or e50 m ?

[dusky stone]

Maus

[solid gate]

now it all makes sense

Heavies are the best tanks in similar skill level matchups

I wish that title went to mediums but hey, this isnt modern tank warfare

[west stag]

There are no tank classes in modern warfare... Almost all countries have MBTs except for the few... That don't have the military budget for them. Some countries still use a form of the T-34

[viscid dragon]

The maus is super fun to play once you learn how to bounce effectively. I held off three tanks from point blank range and on all sides of me for a solid minute last night. The only problem is that I got killed because my oblivious team didn’t seem to notice

[rancid mauve]

Situationally I do the same in the E75 😂 a good spot, good angle and maybe 1 TD can intimidate a few reds lol

[odd ferry]

War gaming should fix their game

Only fake tanks in game like the grave digger, if i have annew tier 6 or 7 i come against these tanks and i cant do anything against is just watching it shooting me with 6 auto loading shots and the armor to good to get through for tier 6

[modest tangle]

Nothing wrong with the tanks

[tulip edge]

I mean its a heavy tank thats a tier higher than you

[pine saffron]

have you seen the Smasher?

[solid gate]

It looks like a mercenary tank (like the ones on console)

[dark socket]

I forgot how crazy good IS traverse speed is

[viscid dragon]

I’m not sure what IS tanks you’re talking about

[dark socket]

just IS

it literally has the best traverse speed out of all Tier VII heavies

[viscid dragon]

I thought you were talking about the higher ones , like the IS-5, which has poor turning and traverse

[jolly olive]

@odd ferry it seems like that to you

But that Gravedigger is getting destroyed by Lowe’s and IS-3s at tier 8

[rancid mauve]

I feel like IS-5 isn’t as good as people say it is. The pike-nose has consistently 200+mm of effective armour all the time yet people go right through it? Angled up and everything.

@dark socket I didn’t like the tier 7 IS. Felt too squishy for tier 7.

[near forge]

The lower Glacis is highly bullet accepting. IS-3 is the same way.

[rancid mauve]

Although IS-3 would be lovely to have! Amazing turret!

[near forge]

I pop caps right through it with my T-44 using AP all the time.

[rancid mauve]

Yeah that is true lol that’s all I aim for when fighting against it

[near forge]

Or if you are in a speedy boy just run circles round it and pop caps into it's backside and flanks

[thick trout]

It can work well against people who can't aim, or when facehugging

[rancid mauve]

Yeah CoD is insane for it haha

Face hugging works well for sure

[near forge]

I love it when I take people off guard by bouncing shells off my backside in my T-44. I did 1.7k blocked damage on Faust once

against a Jadtiger mind you

[rancid mauve]

Omg nothing more ridiculous than shooting a tank in the rear and bouncing....🤷🏻‍♂️😡

[near forge]

The T-44 is highly bouncy when wiggling.

[rancid mauve]

Dang meds with good traverse numbers lol

[neon remnant]

OK so a t49 heat is 725 credits,Why the actual ....k i got -40 k ,i used 3 he s and a repair tool.

well,a he is 4k but still.

[pulsar sinew]

He is 4K because it’s a premium shell

[neon remnant]

ik but i played 5-6 different t8 tech tree tanks and this one has the lowest credit coefficient at all..

[solid gate]

Permanently enrich it

Def not a waste of 14k gold

[dark socket]

IS (Tier VII) is more of a support tank than a heavy tank, the IS-2 (both Russian and Chinese) are brawlers due to their angling

[maiden hollow]

i just got the cent mk1 yesterday and idk if i want the turret or the somewhat better gun...

[rancid mauve]

@neon remnant I feel your pain about the T49. T-54 lightweight also has a ridiculously horrible coefficient . Lovely tanks, but you just can’t play them without premium account.🤷🏻‍♂️

The tier 7 Chinese IS-2 is tech tree right? But doesn’t it have the same body as the Russian IS??

[twilit siren]

Yes it also has the same turrent i think

[tulip edge]

@rancid mauve its similar. The side of the hull and the rear are near identical. The most significant difference of the hull is the front. The IS-2 has a sloped plate covering its front. The IS has a sloped plate but it only covers part of it frontally because then you have what you see in that picture which is angled less and easier to penetrate.

[dark socket]

with IS if you shoot that lower plate below the drivers port you can sometimes ricochet the shell upwards into the IS's turret

[short flame]

the most important difference is the Texture resolution lmao, IS looks so ugly.

[dark socket]

I think IS looks better with it's muzzle break

[rancid mauve]

Yes thanks for the close ups! I haven’t looked too hard at them, but there are of courses differences.

[onyx coral]

any dislikes on the T28 Defender?

[thick trout]

Its a nice well balenced tank

I dont have it but i havent had many problems beating one

And ive also seen red and green T28 defenders eaaily take out a team

[onyx coral]

seems weird that the damage is less than a is3-defender though

i mean the overall dpm is supposedly higher due to reload, but it feels like the damage is less

[thick trout]

I just conpare the inter shell reload tothe T28 proto ans laugh at people who spent 17k gold

[jolly olive]

Would anyone want the IS-2M in game?

[tulip edge]

Do we really need another is tank at this point

[jolly olive]

In PC, it’s like the IS-2 (which is their IS-2 (1945)) but it has across the board buffs except in speed

[near forge]

What we need is more Light Tanks, not heavies and TD's......

[jolly olive]

I would certainly buy it, I enjoy the IS

[near forge]

@jolly olive . If it is like the IS-2 (1945) but buffed it has no buisness in Blitz....

[jolly olive]

I’m not much of a light guy, I like the Type 64 and that’s about all I have

[near forge]

We have enough premium tanks, more light tanks in T10 to help shake up the meta would be very much welcomed...

[jolly olive]

I don’t know what else there are to add

I think the only t10 light is the batchat

[onyx coral]

just make the maus a light tank and give it more speed

[near forge]

Just make the FV 183 an auto loading Heavy Tank with Maus armor.

[jolly olive]

Ok what’s the point of the ISU-130

[thick trout]

An ISU but with a 130mm gun, cunningly named the ISU-130

[pulsar sinew]

^

[jolly olive]

Okay, captain obvious

But why do we need it? The ISU has better dpm and pen and alpha

[thick trout]

If you want a specific answer ask a specific question

[solid gate]

ISU-152-22

[thick trout]

It has a decent alpha with a shorter reload, so is better for dpm i believe

[jolly olive]

Not according to blitzstars

However maybe if you run the prem ammo it surpasses the 152

[tulip sail]

Its point is to make wg money

[jolly olive]

Oh yeah with premium ammo it surpasses the tech tree one

I think it would be worth it if they gave it a pen buff

[thick trout]

Its like the ISU-122

[haughty void]

What about the Pz V/IV?

[thick trout]

Wow that a bad WR

[gritty mauve]

xD

[quasi mirage]

the 130 needs a pen buff to something like 245 and 220

[foggy jasper]

no

[stark siren]

tf is that at 7 winrate lmao

[twilit wigeon]

95% wow

[stark siren]

damage is surprisingly low given the large sample size

[ancient iron]

Is it fair to say the T28 Defender is shockingly good?

[stark siren]

is that a pun

[tulip sail]

Yes

[tulip shell]

K91>kpf70

Kpf is trash

[crude leaf]

Wat do you mean

Kpf has the highest alpha damagr for tier 9 heaviez for one shoy

[rare wren]

Kpf can be a beast in the right situation

[crude leaf]

When you have the slightest of hulls your kpf is ruined kpf<gun depression

[quasi mirage]

k91 is literally a better kpf tbh. Better gun depression and autoloader with clip potential > alpha IMO

[rancid mauve]

I want the RHM for some derp action. Question is: how much frustration should I prepare myself for the grind up to it? I’d be starting from tier 5 StuG.

[calm inlet]

a lot

you want derp? russian TD's

[brisk orbit]

@rancid mauve prepare for 60k gun

[rustic tulip]

The stock isn't that bad imo, just the 150 is soo much better

[reef shale]

The ugliest camouflage I have ever seen.

[ember atlas]

And strangely you can put it on for winter maps and get the camo rating. That shouldn't be possible because the tanks camo like this one won't blend into the surroundings and yet it works for every slot.... Summer , winter and desert.

If a camo doesn't match it surrounding the tank should be spotted more easily imo

[compact wraith]

And that’s how to make the game understandable for beginners

By scaring them away with useless modifiers

[reef shale]

Yes. thats the idea behind camo. But in WG is it an skin, and useless. 2% more camo on a heavy? its a joke. For an TD, ok, camo is important.But no TD would put in pink in the bush, in reality. So we must say, camo is a skin for nice tanks, and have no function, that would be more honest.

I like skins to have the tanks more individual. But then you can not call it camouflage.

[odd ferry]

@jolly olive mhm tier 6 cant do anything to a gravedigger

[valid lodge]

Pink Camo
Put it on Panther
You are now the Pink Panther

[brisk orbit]

badumtss

[ember atlas]

Pink camo would only work in desert scenes by sunset and dawns. Just as the SAS of the LRDG did.

For made up tanks like the grave digger , Dracula and other sci-fi tanks they should have get their own queue. Just as they did for the MarkI

[reef shale]

Pink Panther ... LOL. Good Idea!

[tulip edge]

My cgc is pink dont diss it

yes i spent gold getting a pink camo on tje cgc

[valid lodge]

I have the Pink Panther.

Grinded for it the last day camo was available just so i could have a pink panther.

I'll post the screenshot in #screenshots

[compact wraith]

@ember atlas why tf should fantasy tanks be in a different mm

[crude leaf]

@quasi mirage but usually the tank matters on the driver. Ive killed k91s alot of times because i realized that the clip has an alpha of 930. But if the kpfs 560 alpha has the right place on the map like a short ridge for example, you can easily slaughter the k91 bcuz ive one v oned alot of k91s and won most of them. Well thats my opinion anyways.

[quasi mirage]

neither are that good lol. The kpf is just flat out garbage.

[ember atlas]

@compact wraith why should sci-fi tanks play among real existed tanks. Build a different queue for sci-fi tanks and build more of them Perhaps w/ laser guns too.

[solid gate]

The game is fictional. Half the tanks were only blue prints. We have HP pools, magical medical packs, and insta fix tracks. The realistic ship sailed a long time ago.

[ember atlas]

yeah blue print tanks were either about to produce but never came to it because the war was already lost or over or it simply was to expensive or not realistic to build

eitherway they had plans to build it

[solid gate]

Doesn't change my point. If you want realism Blitz isn't the game for you.

[ember atlas]

sci-fi tanks isnt a thing for blitz either. it should be in wot SPACE

[solid gate]

They've been around for awhile and the game is fine.

[ember atlas]

didnt say anything about the game

[pulsar sinew]

Well

I doubt the drac Helsing gravedigger stuff is going anywhere

So either stop complaining or find a new game

[onyx coral]

Git Gud or Uninstall?

[olive ridge]

I’m torn between the k91 and kpf 70. I like both of them for different reasons

[solid gate]

。。。

[valid lodge]

They have an place where you can keep "fantasy tanks" from fighting "real tanks". You can access it by making a training room and kicking anybody who uses a tank you don't like

[regal zealot]

Lol

[inland osprey]

Well, it is World of Tanks Blitz.
Not World of Historically-Accurate Vehicles That Are in Production or Development Blitz.

[onyx coral]

A purely historically accurate tank game sucks

I mean, anyone play WWII online?

[dark socket]

if you want really realism play Post Scriptum

[solid gate]

@quasi mirage just hard to play effectively because it is limited in many aspects, not garbage, i only wish for a slight gun depression or reload buff (or both of them). But it's fine even now, turret trolls often also the 183 (when they choose not to spam HESH)

[gilded ingot]

@valid lodge my panther/m10 is my pink panther 😆

I’m glad wz blaze is getting a HP buff and 5 mph more in reverse

I love that tank

[solid gate]

I am quite relieved finally the Jg.Pz.E100 received some attention, can't wait to rebuy it, I better farm some credits when I have time

[stone minnow]

Finally got it

[solid gate]

good for you, now enjoy that stronk russian accuracy

[fallow shoal]

Or go meet your chinese cousins lol

[hollow quarry]

T57 heavy or amx 50b???

[solid gate]

depends on your play style

[hollow quarry]

Well I have t57, was just curious to which one people think is better

[tulip edge]

I’d personally go for 50 b

[viscid dragon]

Just remember, neither are actually “heavies”

[hollow quarry]

Yea definitely don’t play it like a heavie,

[echo shale]

The kpfz-70 is op change my mind

[west stag]

Worst Dpm at tier 9

Especially of the heavies. Has below average damage for its gun, but still has a stupidly long reload. Doesn't even get a special HEP round to balance it out

[solid gate]

not to mention the hull is pretty rubbish

[wicked ice]

Aaaand the acuracy is not stellar

[west stag]

If it had a decent HEP shell... Sure it would balance out the DPM issue a bit if put in the right situations

[onyx coral]

actually it has above average damage for tier 9

mediocre pen, high damage, long-ish reload

[tulip edge]

for its gun

[onyx coral]

for a 152? I mean its not a TD

still gets the advantage of the higher caliber for penetration calculation

where it sucks is the depression/elevation along with armor

Overall.. not a bad tank at all, actually has good player data on blitzstars

[tulip edge]

The kv2 gets a 152 with more average damage but that aint a td

[onyx coral]

isn't it though?

[tulip edge]

Well no. It may act like one but its not classified as one. And it only acts like one because of the 152 with that average damage. All im saying is that the guy said below average meaning for the caliber it has, and compared to other tanks with similar calibers its kinda low

[west stag]

It has a nerfed 150, doesn't do the full damage but has the same reload as a normal 150. Amd of course people do good in it. Not many are around, and the majority of them that do have them are extremely good players.

[onyx coral]

I mean agreed. I wouldn't discount it as a tank just because for a 152 caliber gun it has a little less alpha though -- thats all I am saying

[west stag]

Not discounting it only for that, there were other reasons too. No tank is a horrible tank, just a bad driver for those tanks. I was just saying a decent HEP shell would make it even more interesting to play and round out the lower avg damage of AP and the such in it if you position correctly.

[tulip shell]

Lol k91 has much better pen ever tho its a 105mm only thing kpf has is 1 shot damage which is incorrect for its caliber but still rolls over 500 most of the time @onyx coral

[dim sail]

If the kpz had 640 alpha no Matter how long the reload it would be op

[thick trout]

The kpz seems to be a T49 but a heavy instead of a med

At tier 9 i think it needs a bit more to make it a decent tank

[west stag]

T49 is a light

[thick trout]

Med meaning medium and light tank, as their functions can overlap. Mediums can act as lights and lights can act as mediums like the cdc

[west stag]

Kinda wrong and right. Lights can hardly take place of mediums. They tend to have worse armor/gun/dpm and mediums do not have light tank camo used for spotting. In certain cases sure they over-lap. But I wouldn't bring a batchat to the same area as a T62a

[thick trout]

They are different types of tanks yes, but some of their roles and characteristics overlap so i generally class then together

[onyx coral]

@tulip shell Yeah well its not the best T9 heavy, but its not a bad tank at all. I have one and I like the big boom plus the speed. It works well with a group of meds.

[tulip shell]

Man e75 is ma baby

Its literally a lesser t10

[onyx coral]

I hated it

love the E100 though....

[mighty epoch]

Premium teir nines are just really teir 9 1/2

[tulip shell]

Nah @mighty epoch

E75 is more op than most t9 prems

Like how many are there 3 or 4? Lol

[mighty epoch]

Lol not many

But

That's only one all of the premiums are pretty strong

[unreal nova]

Hehe #general-blitz-discussion

[mighty epoch]

E 75 can be outmaneuvered but like kpfz 70 has decent turent rotation for the sizr

[dry notch]

Any chance the charms for the KmPz70 will be used again pr did Josh and Allen mess that up for all of us?

[solid gate]

@mighty epoch E 75 best tier 9 heavy

[olive ridge]

Mauschen for the win. Till update ☹️

[rancid mauve]

Love my E75. Will remain in my garage forever!

[solid gate]

Just flanked and fired point blank in the backside of an E75 in my Kpfpz 70, after its 128 mm shell bounced off my gun mantlet. But I recognize E75 is a pain to deal with, its gun does often 575 damage even if its minor caliber compared to the light bunker destroyer 152 mm the Kpfpz has (that's why it does less damage than regular 152 mm gun). Moreover it's nearly impenetrable and fairly mobile, while Kpfpz can count only on the turret and low profile added to slight more mobility

[fiery crown]

E75 has always been like this .....and kpf 70 has a different playstyle kind of like support tank and you can side hug e75 all day long in it.....though alpha buff would make more competitive

St1 and E75 both are strong tanks at tier 9 and can hold there own at tier 10 ..... both have always been low key OP tanks but they don't break the meta and can be taken out easily if someone plays sensibly against them

[rancid mauve]

Agree with that. I’ve held a flank in the E75 with a TD mate behind me. I find it strong, but can be circled or side hugged easily. The gun is lovely!

[short flame]

Conqueror is op. Best tier IX 2nd line tank ever.

[tulip edge]

wouldnt say op lmao but im extremely biased to british heavies so yes very op pls nerf

[dry notch]

ST1 > E75 because of Russian bias and turret on ST1 has moar red than E75 when spamming prammo. I would say the Mauschen and ST1 are the only tier 9 heavies I kept from the 6 i have played

[robust bane]

panzer worth?

[short flame]

E75>≥>ST1.
e75 is Just 1k times faster.

ST1 and mauschen are the slowest tier IX heavies by far
ST1 cant even sidescrape properly, it can only hulldown, and everything can pen its lower plate.

[regal zealot]

ST-I is more mobile than the E 75 bar the track traverse, in terms of stats and with the inclusion of the terrain resistances . Turret is much stronger and possesses much more reliable sides.

Both tanks are susceptible to HEAT too

[viscid dragon]

Some tier 9 td’s have more firepower than tier 10 td’s

[solid gate]

@viscid dragon Which ones? Im curious

[viscid dragon]

Jagdtiger

[solid gate]

DPM, yes but firepower no

[viscid dragon]

I’m speaking in terms of DPM

[solid gate]

ok, firepower means different things to different ppl

if your talking dpm, 122-54 is another one

same with Tortoise

[viscid dragon]

Yea

[tulip edge]

DPM but its not hard to avoid the gun

[solid gate]

indeed

[viscid dragon]

I just think it’s funny how the tier 10’s don’t have the most dpm

[solid gate]

mainly because they have them big alpha

i like T9 right now imo its the most balanced high tier

balanced in terms of T5 and up

[viscid dragon]

I kind of want a tier 10 med that’s got a gun like the panther 1, but scaled up, like a 8,8 cm gun that reloads in 2-4 seconds

[tulip edge]

With tier nine comes a significant change for the tds.
A much bigger healthpool across the board for the tanks, with a lot of the tank destroyers at that tier focusing more on dpm

[solid gate]

@viscid dragon a T10 with an 88 isnt gonna go through anything

[viscid dragon]

Well, penetration would be buffed appropriately

[hexed sail]

will wg remove the 183 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/502017295107883008/553167106120613898/5.7_-_tier_10.png?width=1057&height=526

hard to balance op or trash

70% of tanks have better avg damage and the tank wr is the worst in all tier 10 and not even close to others tanks

[dusky stone]

Well I hope they don’t remove it entirely but make it a collector tank or something

[hoary kettle]

But then what would replace that thing

[solid gate]

hmm

[dusky stone]

Fv4005

[bright folio]

Badger

[dusky stone]

But I want that badger thing that they have in pc

[bright folio]

I want that too

[dusky stone]

Make 183 collector and give me a free badger WG

[bright folio]

Great minds think alike

[dusky stone]

[quasi mirage]

e75> st1 in a tier 9 and 8 match. ST1> e75 in a tier nine and ten match

[hoary kettle]

I think we should all get a free teir 8

[bright folio]

Just remove the 183 and replace all of them with badgers

[quasi mirage]

^ the 183 cant be balanced

[bright folio]

@hoary kettle sure, but the t8 premium is a Churchill GC with a faster firing gun

[near forge]

The Badger is even more so from what I've heard...

[chilly jetty]

Badge can at least be flanked... 183 has semi rotating turret and somehow manages to turn with any medium

[solid gate]

@hoary kettle. The game is free. Why do you think you should get a free tier 8 premium?

[hoary kettle]

For idk honica

[dusky stone]

A little bit of Monica in my life

[onyx coral]

TBH, there are tons of events where you can earn free tanks.. including T8s

[thick trout]

^ and others are great reductions

[onyx coral]

^^ right, do an event bring the price of a premium tank down to 1k gold

[solid gate]

@dusky stone
A little bit of Erica by my side

[onyx coral]

A little bit of Rita is all I need

[solid gate]

its a custom tank !

[rapid iron]

🤣

[ocean mauve]

Do you know that polish tank was soldier on a horse?

And they fought vs Tigers

Implement it in game

[tulip sail]

Do you mean when the war started?

Like in 1939

[forest bloom]

Panzer 58 worth it? And with the camo and equipment?

[twilit wigeon]

idk

[tulip sail]

Not sure but if someone has it I'd like to know how they like it (if you could @ me I'd appreciate it)

[forest bloom]

Indeed

[glass otter]

How to play M46?

[tulip sail]

Like a slower m26

[regal zealot]

Um... M46 is more mobile than the M26 @tulip sail

[tulip sail]

Mobility and speed are different and if there playing stock the m46 is a bit slower

[jade geyser]

Yee, stock M46 is slower and it’s basically a tier IX Pershing rn

[solid gate]

Stock M46 is that yea

But maxed M46 is very stronk

[jade geyser]

Look at the T28 HTC buff, I’m thinking it’s gonna be really nice

[jade geyser]

Basically, it’s gonna go from 1,000 hp to 1,200, it’ll traverse 6 degrees faster per second, the bloom diameter has shrunk from .4 to .36 and the gun is shooting in 3 seconds less time, not too bad if I’m being honest, maybe now I’ll run calibrated shells instead of rammer

[arctic hamlet]

I think the m4 should get it's one gun back... :(

[tulip sail]

The 105mm?

[haughty void]

Some buffed tanks in update 5.9

[alpine zinc]

What's the best gun to use on the Cent 7/1?

[tulip edge]

The hesh gun

105mm L7B. If you aren’t using the hesh guns on the tier nine and ten why even do the line?

[quasi mirage]

hesh with CS

[dusky stone]

@haughty void use #replays for blitz YouTube videos thanks

[stark siren]

bit of a late reply but you can't play the m46 like a pershing because your turret is paper

@glass otter

[tulip sail]

When playing the m26 I dont rely on the turret

[solid gate]

Give back Is-7 it's old sideskirt and buff mbt70 armour and gun

[haughty void]

@dusky stone Thank you, I thought that was for blitz replays only

[solid gate]

how do I play the Jagdtiger right?

[haughty void]

Like a boss😎 @solid gate

[glass otter]

@stark sirenthanks

[jade geyser]

@solid gate Abuse the dpm on the max gun, run rammer on it and just make sure anyone who makes the mistake of sitting in front of u too long suffers for it, that's about all I can say on it

[solid gate]

On the E50M grind. The panther 2 is a weird one, and by weird it isn't quite... good though.
But in wot the panzer 2 gets the E50's 88mm L/100 gun that we see in blitz.

Why can't we have that?

[tulip edge]

Yeah the panther ii needs a slight buff. I thought it was okay to play but what it tries to do other tanks of the same role do much better.
Very much enjoyed the panther.

[viscid dragon]

It’d be really nice if the panther 2 could get that L/100 gun

[lost python]

M4 vs T1 Heavy, which one should I buy?

[twilit wigeon]

do you mean T14?

[lost python]

No, M4 Sherman.

[twilit wigeon]

T1 heavy is better if you like ramming still targets

[tulip sail]

M4

[twilit wigeon]

but M4 is better overall

[solid gate]

best seal clubber?

tech tree shakeup ruined lower tier play tbh

[tulip sail]

Angry connor

And it's got the credit coefficient to justify playing it

[twilit wigeon]

also the gun is decent enough

[tulip sail]

I'd say the gun is more then decent

[onyx coral]

Angry Conner is just such a beast to play though

[tulip sail]

I love it

[onyx coral]

I mean it makes a quick retreat for sure

But keeping up with team is not fun

[tulip sail]

How? You can top out at 30km

[onyx coral]

Cause you gotta soon around

*spin

[tulip sail]

Yeah its traverse Is quite swift

[onyx coral]

To each their own I guess .. that’s the best thing about the game

[tulip sail]

Yeah I love the diversity in the game

[onyx coral]

I won the Conner in the fair a year or two back and just never got into it

[tulip sail]

Although some of the tanks that I was particularly interested in were removed/nerfed

And it's a good tank once you learn its nuances

[gilded ingot]

I have it but honestly I prefer the pz toaster @tulip sail

It has higher alpha, more hitpoints, and better maneuverability

The toaster has the highest alpha at the tier rn

[tulip sail]

It may have more alpha but it's got about 300 more dpm

[desert cargo]

Stock pta grind tips and playstyle?

[faint iron]

Any stock tier nine medium you should just use as second line support, it’s about all you can really do (most of the time)

[calm inlet]

free xp

its the only way

i think i spent 100k free xp ALONE on that tank JUST for modules

[gilded ingot]

Hah I free xpd to Leo 1 ~ I gave up pretty quick

T55A is where tier 9 mediums are at 👌

[waxen basalt]

You don't stock grind the PTA. You free exp the gun at a minimum and grind the rest if you know what you're doing. You free exp for mobility if you can and enjoy the grind once you figure out the playstyle.

[alpine dagger]

Tier 9 is the worst to grind. So many modules, and their research values are ridiculous, plus you face unpennable T10 for majority of time. My latest was wz120 which evaporated my WR.

It has like 4(!) different guns.

[solid gate]

laughs in Centurion 7/1

[desert cargo]

rip

100k fxp here I come

[glad night]

Anyone tried to play vk28 with the 105mm gun? At least on paper is seems kind of t49ish with derp gun 🤔

[granite iris]

Should I sell that T14 I just got? I have good credit earners already, and more on tier 8, 9 tanks

[haughty void]

@alpine dagger And that’s why we have Mad Games coming up!

[tardy birch]

@granite iris no t14 is op dot sell it , better don't sell any premium tanks

[short flame]

i never bought free xp with gold, never had problems in buying some modules for bad stock tanks.

[haughty void]

Never sell a premium tank, even of it sucks hard

[solid gate]

Does anyone here still have the M3 Light?

[rancid mauve]

Slightly lower the cost of tier 10 vehicles. #ChangeMyMind

[solid gate]

Indeed, I want more tanks so I can be the prison guard in prison training rooms

[rancid mauve]

@haughty void I have gotten the T-25 twice from a big container. Sold it both times.

@solid gate I did have the M3 Light. I liked it if I remember correctly. No longer have it. Yeah the credit grind is real for tier 10s.

[solid gate]

I'm wondering if the M3 Light will be more effective now that the lower tiers have been utterly annihilated.

Only tanks that it will have trouble penning are the Frenchies and the Hetzer, and the former can still be penned with APCR, and the latter can be flanked.

[inland osprey]

The Hetzer is almost impossible to flank in a 1 v 1

[solid gate]

Unless the person driving it is a numpty

which is a great quantity of people these days

[inland osprey]

Yeah, turns in a circle in about 5 seconds.
That's hard.

[solid gate]

woah woah woah

😳

[inland osprey]

This is the E25 for comparison, one of the fastest and most mobile tank destroyers in the game.

[solid gate]

Very balanced

[inland osprey]

To be fair, the Hetzer isn't really fast

[solid gate]

I don't think a lot of tanks at low tiers are that quick tbh

well, except for the americans and a few chinese tanks

[haughty void]

My Hetzer has 80 traverse speed, best in the game

[clever urchin]

Hetzer is pretty good but b1 is really good to if you know how to play

[rancid mauve]

Wait a second, are we talking about the same tank?? The tier 4 TD??? I haven’t played it in a good bit, but last I recall that thing was Tog II slow in all aspects....

May need to buy it again just to make sure I’m reading this chat right lol

[tulip edge]

The hetzer is not tog ii slow by a long shot. That line generally has fast turning tds. Hetzer —-> stug —-> jg pz

[valid lodge]

Hetzer be a speedy one.

[rancid mauve]

StuG is my fav TD. I absolutely loved it. The S35 is a close second👌🏻.
Just I remember it being a bit slow. The Tog reference was an exaggeration so pardon me. Haha

[fiery crown]

@desert cargo play it in mad games

Use combat xp boosters and premium time if you don't have free xp......go for engine gun turret tracks

[solid gate]

Is Indien-panzer good?

[cobalt creek]

Yes

[mighty epoch]

U have to learn how to use it

[half wyvern]

churchill 7 is so bad

[solid gate]

Ye

It wasn't always like that......

But BP is OP

[half wyvern]

by the time the 20km/h top speed gets to the frontline the whole enemy team is already there and my team is just dying and then i get hit by everything

[solid gate]

Churchill tanks are all bad

I take advantage of the slow speed to eat snacks.

[half wyvern]

played a match and the only thing i heard was "MAIN GUN DESTROYED!" and the tank gets tracked every single shot the enemy takes, so annoying

[solid gate]

But the Black Prince is crazy

[half wyvern]

no churchill 1 was one of my favourite tanks, then churchill 7 is just bad

[solid gate]

Churchill 1…?!

[half wyvern]

every time i peeked or did anything id get my tracks destroyed and damage dealt to me too

[solid gate]

I liked the churchill tanks

I hate them they are too slow

[half wyvern]

in wot trailer they make them look so fast, ingame 20km/h

[solid gate]

Slow tanks are epic

Some slow tanks not all

What is the worst T8 tank?

[half wyvern]

t28

[jade geyser]

I dunno, I disliked the Pershing more than T28

[solid gate]

Both bad tanks

[jade geyser]

I’d submit the Pershing is the worse of the two tho, cause at least the T28 has that Tier X 120mm gun to make up for some of its shortcomings

[solid gate]

Is the Lowe good?

[thick trout]

Yes unless you go front line

[rancid mauve]

Lowe is a lovely tank

Great for supporting the frontline imo

[thick trout]

^ as long as you arent on the front line taking hits you are printing credits

[cobalt creek]

Isn't the Lowe a good sidescraping tank

[solid gate]

should be yeah

[cobalt creek]

Then why its not suitable for front line?

[solid gate]

your armor should be able to do more than just sidescrape if you're going to be a frontline tank. plus your alpha really isn't enough to peekaboom with other heavies at that tier

[cobalt creek]

Doesn't it have good frontal armor?

[solid gate]

not really no. Upper plate can bounce some tier 7s, but lower plate is huge and complete paper.

although tbh, any tank with more than 40mm of side armor is capable of sidescraping.

[regal zealot]

Loved all of the Churchills @solid gate

[cobalt creek]

@solid gate I'd say 50mm because 40mm is going to get overmatched by 120+mm guns

[bold zenith]

Aka all IS series

[solid gate]

that's why I said more than 40mm of armor 😉 the only common guns that are bigger than 120mm are 122mm soviet guns, and they can't overmatch 41mm of armor. typically I never sidescrape against 150+mm guns anyways, due to the threat of HE.

[short flame]

Lowe cant be Frontline? lmao?

if lowe cant be a frontline tank, then who can? only M6 mutant, M49 and Vk100 have got better frontal than lowe.

[thick trout]

Lowe works so much better second line

[short flame]

Tiger II is sedond line. not lowe.

[thick trout]

At the front line it struggles to bouce because people just ahoot your lowe plate

If you bait shots onbthe second line then it works great, because people cant aim

[solid gate]

The tiger 2 has the same front armour as the Löwe and that thing is an amazing tier 7 medium

Tiger 2 really needs a buff

I've never had success front-lining with the Löwe. Frontal hull just isn't that strong against other Tier VIII heavies in my experience. Tiger II at least has an upper plate which can bounce most Tier VIII heavies when angled correctly. Ideally, both are suited for second line duties, due to their high pen, accurate guns, and rather mediocre frontal armor.

[thick trout]

^

[short flame]

Tiger II has not even close same frontal armor as lowe...

Lowe has way better upf than tiger II....

[tulip sail]

I've had a bit of success but that doesnt count bc I'm either fighting t7s or people who dont really know what there doing when I'm frontlining it

[short flame]

has only -10 effective mm in the lower plate, but it's overall way Better in the Lowe.
anyway, answer me, Which one is a tier 8 frontline tank ??

dont tell me some IS tanks.

since any 190+mm pen gun can go trough their whole frontal armor.

[thick trout]

Lowe has a better upper plate than the tiger 2 but a worse lower plate

[rancid mauve]

I don’t know. I have mixed experiences. As stated above, the lower plate is the Lowe’a main weakness as most premium ammo can pen it

[solid gate]

Tiger II upperplate is a solid 220-230mm effective unangled last time I checked. If you get a good angle you can easily put it past 260-270mm effective.

[thick trout]

A lot of non prammo can pen it @rancid mauve

[rancid mauve]

I play usually as a second line heavy, depending on the map as a hull down tank

[short flame]

if you angle Lowe you can get to 310mm

[rancid mauve]

True that, but tier 7 meds/lights is what I was referring to

[thick trout]

Tiger 2s best angle with front and side gives you 245mm

[short flame]

and also lowe's tracks eat many shells.
Again
Answer me, Which is a good Frontline tank ??

[thick trout]

Lowe gts 270mm

[solid gate]

IS series are good frontline tanks. STrong turrets, fairly good hulls, derpy, high alpha guns

[short flame]

OMG ok im done

[rancid mauve]

Although in a 1v1, the Lowe can hold its own

In my recent experience

[short flame]

Anything with 190+ pen can go trough the whole IS hulls

and yeah lowe has a bad turret true?

[solid gate]

the strongpoint of German heavies at Tier VIII is the gun, not the armor. It's always been that way.

takes a lot more than 190mm pen to get through anything but an IS-3...

[short flame]

you're confusing Open field with frontline

[rancid mauve]

Nooooo good turret with very small cheeks that can be penned, but if you are constantly moving, you’ll most likely just bounce

[short flame]

around 200mm in the whole armor

it's totally penetrable against any tier X HT gun

[solid gate]

"takes a lot more than 190mm pen to get through anything but an IS-3..."

[thick trout]

Is5 has 250mm on upper plates unangled

[short flame]

LMAO "unangled"

[solid gate]

any tier X HT gun

A tier X HT gun is going to destroy any tier VIII heavy.

[short flame]

how is5 pike nose can be 250mm "unangled"?

[thick trout]

@short flame unangled as in facing the front directly

[rancid mauve]

Yeah I’m calling BS on the IS-5 hull. Everyone pens it when I drive it🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[short flame]

dtill weaker than lowe, and you cant angle pike nose tanks

[cobalt creek]

250mm on the IS5? 200m of pen is enough

[thick trout]

If you keep turning the hull people cant aim aim dont pen about half the time

@cobalt creek 200mm on the lower plate

[short flame]

if they re bots yes

is5 has weaker lower plate than is3. but better upper.plate.

[thick trout]

When have tou ever seen a decent player in random battles @short flame?

[short flame]

umh, if they're bots against is5, they"re bots also against my löwe.

cant change my mind, Löwe it's just the best tier 8 HT.

[thick trout]

With the lowe you cant bait shots into armour you are going to angle

[short flame]

i know how to angle my armor
any workable armor used properly is always better than any pike nose armor.

in my chieftain T95, 205 pen, have literally 0 troubles ez snapshooting hits into ANY russian based tier 8 hull heavy

you cant be always straight up in your is5. once you turn by 5 degrees, your hull is 66%. penetrable
by any 200mm pen gun, while for is3 is for any 190mm

[upbeat glade]

Am good at angling, my main problem is scatttered teams dying in secs

along with steady faceroll win/loss battles

Unless that am pulling my dead load

Have a nice day

[jolly olive]

What’s better, the IS-7, IS-4, T110E5, or the WZ-113?

Rank them pls

[fossil violet]

1. IS4 2. E5 3. IS7 4. 113 @jolly olive

[solid gate]

Is the STB-1 still relevant at Tier X?

[fossil violet]

yes

[solid gate]

What kind of role does it fill in Tier X games?

[fossil violet]

annoying anti russian med tank

[solid gate]

?

[upbeat glade]

STB1 most common role is getting nuked early, mostly what I seen lately

[fallow venture]

The STP-1 is good at ridge likes cuz of gun depression

[rancid mauve]

@short flame hmm you’d have my support in your comment. I have more success bouncing shots by wiggling and angling in the Lowe than IS-5. The thing I find with pike-nosed hulls is that which ever direction you angle it, pike side that faces you becomes weak. So it’s like there’s always something grey to shoot at. On the flip side, if I see an IS heavy hull down, I tend to leave it alone because there’s no penning that.

I’ve become accustomed to box-like heavies such as Lowe or E75 where angling is simplified.

But to say it’s the best tier 8 heavy is a bit steep. T34 is a monster with that turret and gun, VK 100 with that armour, etc.
Lowe feels very consistent as far as armour and gun performance, and I love consistency so it’s a lovely tank in my book.

[merry current]

Every tier 8 has vastly different strengths and weaknesses, so it's hard to tell which one is best.

[dim sail]

Having a pike nose is the worst type of armour

When you try to angle yp you just end up giving weak spots to the enemy

And pointing the poke nose at the enemy is not strong enough to bounce

And you can't side scrape aggressively

[short flame]

Vk100 has super weak lower plate

[dim sail]

It's like 170+ pen

[short flame]

Is5 armor has super garbage turret roof, anything can overmatch it.

[dim sail]

I always wonder when I'm brawling in it I get penned every time

[rancid mauve]

I don’t know. The VK’s lower plate seems to bounce for me

[jolly olive]

Is the T-150 rare?

[thick trout]

Not really

[jolly olive]

Is it good? Better than kuro?

[thick trout]

Imo the kuro is better but it depends on your playstyle

I never like the T-150, but i quite liked my kuro

[twilit wigeon]

I feel like the kuro got better after 5.5

[thick trout]

I havent played my kuro in ages...

[tulip sail]

I didnt get the kuro

Wish I did

[thick trout]

I got it during the GuP event

Was a nice tank just made completely redundant by the arl

[twilit wigeon]

^

[tulip sail]

Yeah the GOP event landed when I had a ton of tests so I could barely play and only wound up with the anko

[thick trout]

I sold my kame and anko, but ive been thinking about getting my anko back

[waxen mural]

I got an idea, what if WG adds the 50 mm cannon to Leopard with better penetration, ROF and DMG than the Pz III's 50mm

[tulip sail]

It's also the only gun that was planned for the leo

[waxen mural]

well thats too

in the PC wot the leo have high pen 50 mm cannon

50 mm Kw.K L/60I

[tulip sail]

I'd rather that however I doubt they will

[waxen mural]

i hope too, the leo (for now) is the most badly light tank at tier 5

[tulip sail]

Crusader would like a word

[waxen mural]

turst me i played both tank, and in my opinion the crusader is better

[tulip sail]

I've played both as well and the leo isnt as good as it used to be but I'd say it deserves it from being op for so long

[waxen mural]

WG should add new gun or buff the 30mm pen, theyre just forget about this tank

maybe you re right

[tulip sail]

They have forgotten about everything lower then t5 and since the crusader has a muti shot gun it cant be accurate at distance like the bp with the same 6 pndr can be

[rancid mauve]

Lol

[jolly olive]

I hope they sell the kuro again

[tulip sail]

I want the ram2 or the rev

[jolly olive]

This guy on the blitz post is saying the Tiger 1 is the best tier 7 heavy

ok buddy

[waxen mural]

Tiger(P) is better

Tiger 1 also good but from a distance

[bright folio]

Tiger (p) is better as a heavy

Tiger 1 is a bully to meds

[desert cargo]

T49 best t8 light. I swear the RU is meh

[solid gate]

KV-1S, what's the better gun?

85mm D-5T or 122mm D-2-5T?

[twilit wigeon]

85mm
It is so much more reliable at damage then the 122
as well as a better reload & dpm
@solid gate

[limpid comet]

personally I prefer using the 122 with hit-and-run or peeking tactics

[atomic vessel]

122 for the damage and pure glee, 85 is more reliable

Any tips on the su line play style?

[regal zealot]

Which one? The SU-100M1 or the SU-152?

[atomic vessel]

Well I’m on the 100 rn, which is better?

Shouldn’t be that hard to get both researched tho

Su 100, not m1 sorry

[jade geyser]

Depends on what you want at tier 10, do you want something with a harder hitting gun or more dpm?

[atomic vessel]

Well I don’t think I’ll get to tier 10 for a while

[jade geyser]

I'm personally doing both just because I want the technical engineer ribbons for all the nations, but that's just me

Well, there's also the ISU vs SU-101

[atomic vessel]

Probably whichever is more fun, or has the easier grind

[jade geyser]

Do you wanna run around and chip people's health away or do you wanna peek-a-boom people for nearly half their health in one shot?

[atomic vessel]

I like derps, but I don’t have a large preference

[jade geyser]

I honestly have loved the ISU so much I couldnt bring myself to sell it for the Obj 704 so I just saved up the raw credits and got the 704

[atomic vessel]

Isu 152?