@short raptor and huge HP pool for a TD but that's all
#vehicles-discussion
livid yacht
fiery crown
The rolls of Jg are always low
vocal dawn
Type 59 is fun
vague sail
@short raptor
I agree with your assessment on the jagaroo
It’s just not working for me and for many other players I come across ,
Also the hull traverse is soo bad , horrible credit coffecient with bad camo rating...
It’s just a pain for me to drive nowadays
The 268 is flat out better and the 183 (even after the nerf)
Sad ☹️
glacial bough
Yeah jg isn’t too good, I still find it quite effective just a bit crap in today’s meta
vague sail
And the constant low rolls
Sometimes I wonder If I’m using a 152 mm gun
It dosent even feel like my avg alpha is 800
dreamy lantern
Yeah Jaggero it's not the most pleasant thing to drive ,it works for me most of the time cause I got used with bad track traverse ,and yeah ,hitting for 500 it's a shame ,my E100 does the same ,it rolls more under than close to 640 which it's a shame
silk mason
But hey russian tanks that make more than 700 with every shot against me is pretty balanced. But why not to shoot 5 times in my jagaroo and every shot is something round 700 dmg
zenith robin
Anyone know the credit coefficient of the type 59
tough dune
@zenith robin 180%
dreamy lantern
@zenith robin you can check it on every vehicle on blitzstars
Löwe has the same credit coefficient
tough dune
Lowe has 190%
zenith robin
Thanks
reef shale
Credit on Blitzstars is 179% for Type 59, 175% for T-54 mod1. both good creditfarmer
vague sail
@silk mason
Lol
Same here
When u hit a 268 for 687 in your jägeroo but he replies
With a 780 roll
👏 👏
Gg
tough dune
RNG on Jageru needs a fixing. No other TDs lowroll 100 lower than their given avg dmg, not even 183 lowrolls that low. Its even more frustrating when you get that perfect lowroll of 600 against a 680-700 HP target.
solid gate
Someone care to explain why my Lowe does like a 88 or 90 mm most of the time, and my Kpfpz more like a 130 mm instead of (already subpar) 152 mm? I demand a logical answer, and reduction of RNG influence, a 128 mm of E75 or Vk45.02 B does even more than me. I can't tolerate this, since I paid for Kpfpz.
solid gate
The only thing that comes to mind is those tanks were used for different roles I guess
sudden walrus
on T1 Heavy, is better put 4% of shield or 6% life points?
brisk orbit
life points are usually better
sudden walrus
thx
still jacinth
Its better to upgrade life or armor on t62a?
tulip edge
Personally, on most mediums, its better to have an increase in Hitpoints.
hollow quarry
@still jacinth I put extra hp on my t62a, don’t think extra armour would make a big difference
jolly birch
Can someone pls explain
https://youtu.be/AwWUalR9AZk
tender ether
explain what ?
short flame
no, it's usually better to improve armor, unless you're in a paper tank. even bouncing the lowest alpha damage shell in the tier you are gives you more hp than Maus' increased health.
haughty void
@short flame True, but you can’t trust your extra 4% armor. Its more reliable with the +6% hp
merry grove
Hi guys, is the batchat line a fun grind??
Or is it like the 183 grind🙃
haughty void
Well, 183 seems to be fun for the player itself, however the rest of the line is kinda slow. BC was one of my favs grinds @merry grove
merry grove
I dont have the 183, im on the tortoise... But i cant take it anymore 😂
But yeah i wanted to do a light tank grind and was just wondering.... But thx
solid gate
Should i get an IS-6 or T34
drowsy shadow
My opinion more armor is better especially in my kv2 I can side scrape and not worry much and other kv2s can't pen me with HE right below the gun
I vote t34
solid gate
is-6
drowsy shadow
Is 6 is good to
But I like the damage and Penn of the t34 not to mention the turrent armor
solid gate
@merry grove if you mean in blitz, the Bat Chat is fun. I'm only on 13 90 but it is an enjoyable tech tree with a little french fry devil halfway
short flame
i can trust my +4% armor
with that, med tanks without calibrared shells cant pen my e100's frontal turret with heat, because is more than 300.
140 hp is nothing
lean laurel
faint iron
Lmaoooo
half wyvern
one thing i dont like about wt pz iv is the gun elevation and depression system, when u have gun over back you have like no gun elevation, so if i get flanked i cant shoot back until i turn my entire tank the other way round
is-6 is like a tier 8 is-4, i dont like is-4 so id rather get t34
thick trout
@solid gate if you can go hull down well then T34 every time
fiery crown
@solid gate go for Lowe instead of is6 and t34....the gun on Lowe is amazing and the armour is good too after the buff.... though it is sluggish but traverse is good and you can side scrape and go hull down in it....it is currently one of the best tier 8 hts
wise halo
@solid gate I dont know whether u like hulldown or not, but if u do, get T34, there is nothing better than good hulldown, with small weakspots, shooting from amazing T34 gun
keen mantle
IS-6 is a lot of fun but Lowe is better
hollow notch
T34-3 is even more fun than is6
keen mantle
I like my 2400 dpm with my 122mm gun tho
solid gate
Nothing hurts more like not max rolling the 183s hesh smh
My last 1v1 I rolled 1600 on the lower plate of a jpz lol
rain cloak
did they nerf churchchill 3 premium tank tier 5?
It feels not as strong as used to be after update 5.4
I used to be able to angle the tank and bounce but now it is just 50% chance I can bounce shot.
viscid dragon
Don’t cause it’s a soviet tank and german tanks are better
glass otter
Ooof
viscid dragon
I mean, the turret is really good, so try to use that, if you’re gonns face people without cover, face head-on and not angled so your pike nose works
keen mantle
IS-3 is probably my 3rd favorite tier 8
viscid dragon
Honestly it’s not really worth trying to bounce with the pike nose against pretty much most tier 8’s and nines, cause it’s paper
I always go right through it with my tanks
keen mantle
The hull works against mediums but the turret is basically god
viscid dragon
Yea the turret is a no pen zone, but that’s kinda how that whole line is
short flame
meh
raven socket
Bought the Tog ii. It's slow but the 5 seconds reload is wat i wanted
regal zealot
Meme Machine best Machine
viscid dragon
It traverses really quickly and has good torque and climbing capabilities
ocean moon
My name says all
tender sundial
@viscid dragon sure but it can't run
And with a tank that has no armor that's essential
viscid dragon
True
tender sundial
I'd give up a bit of traverse to get 50-55kph
viscid dragon
You kinda need the traverse with the big ass you have. Gotta be able to turn around so that you can hit them if they try to flank you
tender sundial
True, top speed buff is all it needs really otherwise a great LIGHT TANK
tender sundial
If not that then just up the speed
fiery crown
@glass otter the front hull is bad .... but the sides of the tank are really good ....so learn reverse side scrape....helps in is8 as well..... face hug when up close coz you have very good turret...best if you play it hull down
turbid pond
You guys were lied to
keen mantle
yes, because that's totally an easy target and tier 8 tanks clearly have over 220mm pen on average
turbid pond
Not the point, I just said u guys were lied to
And dont underestimate the gold spamming mediums and lights
Will go through that turret like cheese
Unless they hit the gun mantlet
keen mantle
the T34 turret is great because it's very strong and the weak spots still troll
dull aspen
Are you complaining the turret is weak??? Just wiggle it lmao, the mantlet is impenetrable. Plus 240 effective is A LOT. It’s still 50:50 for a lot of tanks
charred relic
Which is better between obj268 and grille15?
livid yacht
Completely different play styles
inland osprey
Maybe the Objekt 268 has an edge in more situations.
wise halo
I would say Lowe has easier turret weak spots to hit than T34
inland osprey
I have the Grille 15, and I like it.
I can't vouch for the Objekt 268 since I don't have it, but I think the Obj will be better.
surreal wolf
How to play t5 churchill 1. Any tips
solid gate
Try always angling and out-DPM lone tanks, mantaining the frontal armor
wraith bough
Obj 268 is better than the grille
charred relic
Oh,thank you
brisk orbit
do i get top gun or the engine on t-44
regal zealot
You’re using 85mm gun or the first 100mm gun?
brisk orbit
first 100mm
regal zealot
Go for the engine, that gun is adequate for now
jovial moon
140 or 62a?
dark socket
regal zealot
140 is much more flexible, 62a for the gun and it’s solid turret
140 hull is even more troll than 62A
cinder hatch
Is it just me that thinks 121B has exactly same credit coeficient as any tier 10 except the fact we can't enrich it ? @keen jay
solid gate
- As others have said it is much more flexible. 62a is a one trick pony.
cinder hatch
true , obj140 get's alot more lucky bounces than T-62A
dull aspen
62a has a WAY better turret than 140. 140 for hull, 62 for turret
cinder hatch
Well for sure in tier 10 that is not going to bring you much credits even with premium account
faint iron
The 62 has the best gun in tier ten though. But for pure flexibility, go 140
shrewd basalt
Too Lazy To Grind 62 😆
hoary kettle
So what to get the 121b you need 17k gold so what is about spending like $50?????
cunning violet
@frigid ember Not sure if this is where to ask, but are there any plans to bring the French Wheeled Vehicles (Lynx, Panhards, etc.) Into blitz?
regal zealot
Highly unlikely at this stage of the game
regal zealot
But hey, at least we have rumors of the Swedes and Czechs coming after the Chinese TDs, so that’s something to rejoice to
regal zealot
Something like that. That’s the mainstay of said tanks.
If they are able to snipe without the need to change to siege mode, they’re gonna be OP as hell
cunning violet
True. Having a laser at tier 10 while traveling at 40Km+ would be too op
regal zealot
But I think that the siege mode button would be tied with sniper view.
cunning violet
No, I'm thinking there will be two different ones
It's not practical driving around while in siege mode if you're stuck in sniper view
Maybe there'll be a button you press, which exclusively switches your tank between Siege and Travel modes. Maybe a sort of bullseye icon for siege, and a tank with lines behind it showing its moving quickly for travel mode
half wyvern
i dont think vk 100 is "op"
solid gate
Cc
half wyvern
meds and light tanks easily combat it as they are so low down so they cant even be hit
half wyvern
it doesnt seem like a tank that does any sort of big damage
solid gate
will there come new premium german tanks?
half wyvern
im not denying that vk 100 might be my personal problem, but the stock gun is trash, a medium does same damage with half the reload time
cobalt creek
Ofc its trash if its the stock gun. The 12,8cm is really good
devout shadow
Jup
dim sail
460 alpha is scary
solid gate
Hi, the 121B is advertised as "enriched" but I see in blitzStars that it only has a 90% credit coefficient which TBH doesn't seem enriched at all. Can anyone confirm the credit coefficient it has?
bold kraken
Not really it isn't. I'm more afraid of 150mm+ guns in my Leopard PT A than of 128mm guns because I can't effectively trade without potentially eating a 1,000+ HE shell.
dim sail
At tier 8 460 alpha is really good
bold kraken
ISU-152 would like to know your location
cobalt creek
I really dislike the ISU, it sacrifices so much gun handling for the alpha and the pen. That or rng is screwing me whenever I play it
thick trout
Just dont expect it to be german @cobalt creek
tough dune
ISU has better gun handling than Borsig but at the cost of having no turret.
cobalt creek
I'd rather play a borsig over a ISU any day, though I must admit the DPM the pen and the camo on the ISU are disgustingly good
foggy jasper
Is the 121B worth it?
solid gate
I've never seen a tank called the Borsig.
Is it an event one? Or some name for another tank?
cobalt creek
Tier VIII TD on the grille 15 line
solid gate
Oh ok.
cobalt creek
Actual name is Rheinmetall Borsig Waffentrager but we call it Borsig for short
solid gate
👌
tacit gull
T-54: turret, tracks or engine upgrade first?
wraith bough
Engine
keen mantle
always top gun first
devout shadow
This is called Borsig too
keen mantle
lol
tacit gull
Damnnn
devout shadow
Oh no its a Tank writing machine
cobalt creek
If google is right, Borsig means bristle, so it's not a tank term
carmine pulsar
Fun fact: waffenträger means gun carrier in English
cobalt creek
Yup
carmine pulsar
I like to call it waffleträger
cobalt creek
Waffletractor is a popular name, too
faint iron
Yeah lol. In battle I call it “Wt” and waffle on voice
And ISU gun pen is insanely good tbh.
keen mantle
pen, alpha, and dpm
faint iron
Yeah. Just for the sake of it being easier too play, I’d just borsig. It’s easier to set up shots, and it may have paper armor but I’m used to playing tanks like that
vocal dawn
From the Swedish TD thing earlier or from days ago, I don’t know it was the first thing I saw when I opened this chat.
I think the mode swap could be put in the same spot as the mad games ability spot
drowsy shadow
Yea but no time limit
inland osprey
Yeah, Borsig isn't a tank term, it's the name of a locomotive manufacturer Rheinmetall took over in 1933.
August Borsig was merged with Rheinmetall to form Rheinmetall-Borsig AG in 1936.
@cobalt creek
tardy prawn
https://tenor.com/view/crab-safe-dance-gif-13211112
this is me when finnished grinding
viral surge
The vk100.01p has great armor, and a horrifically bad gun, no nerf is needed
wicked oracle
I think the gun is amazing tbh. Hits lit a truck and is very accurate when I use it.
tardy prawn
very accurate
solid gate
Should I get it?
mint ridge
Oh look the fat CDC kek
solid gate
Fat but armored a bit I'd say, seeing the infos, so what should I do, is that a good enough tank?
mint ridge
Idk I only have the CDC
solid gate
Ok good, I am asking to who owns this tank what does he think about it
jovial moon
Any suggestions for t1110e5
spring tapir
So who's played over 60k games?
half wyvern
vk 100 is definitely not "op"
spring tapir
Troutfly50, anyone play with him?
half wyvern
if anything the vk 100 needs a buff
inland osprey
No
Just no
regal zealot
No pls
I own it and I also think that it could use a small nerf
half wyvern
the stock gun especially is the worst gun in tier 8
your so slow that you can be rushed by 2 enemy tanks and will have no chance, if team leaves you then your doomed
its my least favourite tier 8 that i own
inland osprey
Most tanks are basically doomed if the team leaves them
half wyvern
not if they are fast, like is-3
i had better stats in average damage, winrate, exp and all that in tiger p
half wyvern
because a tank has armour doesnt mean it needs a nerf
and it has barely any hitpoints for a heavy, tiger p had more hitpoints
inland osprey
Getting swarmed because you're alone is also not a reason to be buffed.
The stock gun is bad because it is a, ahem, stock gun.
solid gate
VK100 buff? LOL
half wyvern
it isnt that good
solid gate
Yeal let's make it reach 60kph in 3secs so it can ram like a bigger drac
inland osprey
It isn't that bad to warrant a buff too
solid gate
It's what the tank really needs xDDDDD
half wyvern
and playing the tank has led me to bankrupcy
had like 270k, played a f ew games, 1344
solid gate
Happens whe you lose and are out of prem time.
inland osprey
I still don't see the need to buff it @half wyvern
half wyvern
playing a stock gun for 50k exp is just too much, and it doesnt help when its a mediums gun with 2x the reload
solid gate
Agree, the tank doesn't need a buff. It's OP for T8, would do well in T9
half wyvern
not op
solid gate
C?mon buddy you're talking to aguy who plays ST EMil. Don't go craying about stock grinds.
half wyvern
sturer emil was fantastic
inland osprey
Well you get the top gun first and play it
Then you'll see @half wyvern
It does not need a buff.
half wyvern
atleast a new damn gun, 50k xp in the trash 105mm gun with 15 sec reload
inland osprey
There are worse stock grinds than the VK
half wyvern
is-3 has so many guns, and some were like 30k xp or 20k, cant remember
half wyvern
it just gets frustrating playing with the vk 100 stock gun, the accuracy is horrible
theres like 10 vk's, be more specific
inland osprey
VK 100.01 P stock grind is vastly better than the ST-1.
half wyvern
not really, ive got tier 9 on it
inland osprey
Still, the ST-1 relies on its turret armor for protection, which you still have to grind.
What I'm saying is some tanks have really bad stock grinds, but that doesn't mean they require a buff. You gotta have to grind to get a good tank.
solid gate
Or use FreeXP if you're not up to the challenge
solid gate
@inland osprey Cent 7/1 is one of the worst stock grinds and the conquerer
inland osprey
Oh
Welp too bad then
solid gate
I’m still grinding my motors and tracks for the Cent 7/1 after getting my 150k of turret and gun
tardy prawn
boi isnt it nice to get the STI when u already have the IS8
west iris
So... grinding the British TD line, at AT15 now. Any tips how to make this more bearable? Kinda hard to grind when I lose so much credits.
solid gate
Ankle your Tank a tiny bit and shoot. You are able to out dpm most tier8 tanks
- try to fight Tanks who are not close to cover. If u trade 1 shot to 1 each ur fast reload won't help u obviously and u gonna loose that duel
west iris
Ankle?
regal zealot
Angke
west iris
Gotcha
upbeat glade
Save the hatch
west iris
Its the right hatch that should be hidden right?
olive ridge
<@&481447501690568709>
fleet berryBOT
Nicolás Maduro#4514 was banned
forest ermine
Annnnd he's gone
olive ridge
👍🏻
fleet berryBOT
Calisota [WGPR]#0001 has been warned.
brisk orbit
wat
olive ridge
Lol
devout shadow
Did you miss that eddie?
brisk orbit
the spamming dude?
olive ridge
Yea
devout shadow
The disgusting dude u mean
brisk orbit
boi he dmed me 8 times
forest ermine
Oof, sorry to hear that =(
brisk orbit
play blitz
phone gives notification from discord
see username
this dude again
block him and continue match
devout shadow
:GWeniThinkUp:
brisk orbit
thank you random dude I want to vomit and I'm already sick
devout shadow
Ah right extern emotes didnt work
brisk orbit
🤔
west iris
Is it me or does the At 15 is just plain better after you get the Tier 9 20 lb gun?
brisk orbit
every tank gets better when you get the top gun
hollow moth
We need a little bit armor in Rhm
west iris
😛
west iris
At 7 with stock gun while hilarious... doesnt have the Pen to make it a turretless version of the Gravedigger
solid gate
The Hetzer and pz v needs the derpgun
brisk orbit
chi ri is like a brother @carmine pulsar
solid gate
Ich want the the Hetzer with the derp gun back
jovial moon
Why doesnt amx 13 75 has similar mobility to m41 bulldog
Amx gives out on gun depression elevation while m41 has both with its mobility
It is smaller thn bulldog it should at least have same top speed
solid gate
The hetzer without derpgun is nothing
jovial moon
M41 looks better on paper and performs better thn amx 13 75
carmine pulsar
The amx 13 90 is good
inland osprey
It was good
Idk currently because I've went through those tanks years ago
valid lodge
I prefer hetzer without derp
west iris
Hetzer Kame?
valid lodge
No
lavish totem
Sure, lets let players like this simply buy their way to tier x. FFS
mint ridge
i only se chieftain campin on coner whit TD and they get reck 2 s later XD
brisk orbit
money
bold zenith
💯
ember atlas
Yep they screwed up tier 1-4 and sel gold tier X to new players. Very smart. Now even more noobs will play in high tiers
half wyvern
i dont seem to be able to win a game with amx 13 75, but atleast its fun being fast ;-;
id be surprised if i ever won a game with it
ye i hate 13 75, its so trash, but its fast
the cromwell is better, and thats tier 6
valid lodge
Well a big thing people kept saying was how they wanted players to move up. So wg added a bullet train.
Careful what you wish for
fossil violet
Intelligence 💯
thick trout
@ember atlas its like the lttb and the T49
They are both bad tanks but their fun factor is amazinh
west iris
Hmmm... when was the last time a fantasy tank was added in game?
forest bloom
T-44-100 buff?
thick trout
Last one was the hafen
west iris
Hafen... from which series was that?
forest bloom
Chronicles
fossil violet
Valkyria Chronicles
ember atlas
never wanted noobs to rush up the tiers. hell no, let them learn at least a few basic skills first and don't sell tanks to them which are out of their league for them. if you've researched tier 3 as top tier you shouldn't be able to play prm of tier 5-10
frozen mural
Has anyone experience with e50 L100?
leaden frost
i have 105k free exp and i wanna spend it on is 7 is it worth?
thick trout
@leaden frost wait until you have a painful grind
leaden frost
meeeeeeeeh i don t have so much time bc school so.... i can farm like 30k per day(not so much for me)
limpid comet
WG should make it so you can't buy vehicles that are higher than two tiers above your highest researched tier
thick trout
I bought the lowe on special offer when i was at tier 6
Until i reached tier 8 i hardly ever played it
robust bane
flank tank or nah
valid lodge
Peek a boom
quaint jetty
Hey, is the 113 any good?
timid bison
yes, very
foggy jasper
Do y'all think the grille is still viable?
hoary kettle
So fv being removed
valid lodge
Fv is staying as far as i know
fickle magnet
So... JPanther route or Borsig route?
inland osprey
Boooooorsig
fickle magnet
That cool?
inland osprey
15cm gun with a turret at tier 8
Very cool
fickle magnet
Well.... it does have a derp gun.... but its armor sucks
inland osprey
There are three tanks of the Borsig line that have a permanent place in my garage.
Sturer Emil, Rhm.Borsig, Grille 15
feral jolt
Armor? What armor? Borsig has that?
inland osprey
They're just soooo fun
solid gate
I love throwing HESH into German tank destroyers in my Cent 7/1
fickle magnet
@feral jolt No it does not 😂
hollow moth
We need to nerf ISU or we will have a big problem
feral jolt
Exactly what i thought
inland osprey
One of the things the Borsigs are good at is staying invisible, excluding the Grille 15.
hollow moth
Isu is the best normal tier 8 TD
Very good penetration, fast reload for the dmg, 640 average dmg
fickle magnet
Its not easy to reach though... I mean the su-100 final canon is a lot of exp
hollow moth
Borsing isn't the best tier 8 TD! Find the borsing because my HE want to meet this borsing
inland osprey
71000 exp for the ISU-152 BL-10
Cri
feral jolt
Well you gotta find it first
hollow moth
@inland osprey a but BL-10 Is OP
inland osprey
Reminds me the time when I derped an ISU for 900 from the front
With HE
In a Rhm
Two seconds after he exploded, the light bulb only went off lol
hollow moth
Reminds me the time when i derped an borsing for HiT KiLl on the front
With he
In my isu
feral jolt
You do know its front is like, what, 20mm instead of isu's 90?
I'd be more surprised if you didnt
valid lodge
Isu is fairly balanced. Has a tendency to hit tracks, it's turretless, meh armor, low hp pool
inland osprey
Have you seen a ISU getting flanked?
By a Rhm?
Is so fun, for the Rhm.
feral jolt
Kek
valid lodge
Rhm and ISU are basically rivals from what i can tell.
hollow moth
Have you seen a enemeny team getting flanked? By a ISU?
Is so fun, for the ISU
inland osprey
Well it is not really possible
fickle magnet
…...Is this a debate right now?
hollow moth
Ya
feral jolt
I'm questioning their team if that happens, or the 152's decision
hollow moth
Because ISU have more DPM and more penetration
inland osprey
Rhm line are basically cannibalizing each other with HE.
strange pecan
Ello, noob here.
valid lodge
I've flanked once or twice in an ISU.
Because both teams huddled up 100 feet from eachother and didn't wanna do anything so I got tired of it and flanked. Fun time
inland osprey
Well yeah, BL-10 reloads way faster and has extreme penetration
hollow moth
And rhm's turret is good but paper
valid lodge
Trade off for that pen and dmg. Not only is it turretless but it's gd is not great
fickle magnet
So one is a glass cannon and the other is a heavy hitter?
valid lodge
Both are pretty glass like
strange pecan
Is there a vanguard tank that can be in the front lines?
feral jolt
Heavies?
inland osprey
T95 @strange pecan
hollow moth
I think ISU-152 better than borsing because the best of a TD is the cannon, and ISU's tier 10 cannon is better than other tier 8 cannon
strange pecan
Does it matter if I go German, French etc. ?
inland osprey
French tanks have basically no armor
Higher tiers anyway
strange pecan
I'm a noob so (0_0)
fickle magnet
French tanks can be derped because of their low armor rating
valid lodge
Isu has better gun but rhm can get shots off easier.
feral jolt
The Fochs has decent front armor, tho it has thise things on top of it
inland osprey
@hollow moth well that depends on opinion.
Rhm has an okay gun, but it has a turret, which doesn't reset the camo net, making it more stealthy.
ISU-152 has no turret, but it has an OP god weapon that pens everything.
strange pecan
I'll look at the t95
fickle magnet
I mean. The FV215b 183 can half a french heavy's hp in one shot
valid lodge
Good luck on t28
feral jolt
It's a 183, practically around half to 2/3rd of your health vanish if it pens you with hesh
fickle magnet
And if it pens near your ammo rack...say good bye
inland osprey
Batchat can be penned by 183 no matter the angle lol
fickle magnet
In the German line though..which TD route is best?
inland osprey
60mm x 3 = 180mm < 183mm
Triple overmatch
strange pecan
Ok the t95 is beefy, but still with the peekaboo sniping haha. What's the best turret tank?
feral jolt
Nah Emil, its tracks can save it sometimes
inland osprey
Ah ya I forgot modules lol
Sometimes the gun saves it
fickle magnet
So the Nashorn way then?
inland osprey
@fickle magnet Rhm for experienced players, Jageru for less experienced players.
Both are equally good imo
fickle magnet
Alright then
inland osprey
But Rhm is a very fun line
strange pecan
Is there a top tier machinegun only tank?
feral jolt
Borsig's my most played tank, granted still only almost 500 battles in it, but still
strange pecan
Oh, well what's the best up-close tank that's viable in the top tiers?
strange pecan
I'll check it out, ty
feral jolt
You touch the maus, you get the ouch
fickle magnet
The Maus is a building on wheels with a cannon on the front
carmine pulsar
No more like a battleship that got tank tracks
fickle magnet
If your driving a light tank and see the maus....stop, turn around and run before it sees you
inland osprey
Unless it's alone
Then I'll do the exact opposite
feral jolt
^
west iris
Hmmm is the Matilda the Tier 4 Maus?
fickle magnet
If its alone then your fine. Its turret turns really slow
Tilda is great at bouncing...until a tier 5 rolls in
inland osprey
Or a BT-7 artillery whittles down your health with multiple drive-bys
strange pecan
Wow the maus can make a lot of shots bounce off... He took 3 shots with verrry low hp.
What's the best tank for flanking/speed?
inland osprey
Batignolles-Chatillon Char 25T
strange pecan
Whew, quite the name
inland osprey
We call it the Batchat
Has a 3-round automatic loading system, which reloads three shells in one go with a 3 second delay between each of the three shots. @strange pecan
strange pecan
Wow!!! I saw a video of the batchat winning a final 1v3, the last 1vs1 was vs. A maus!
He also used the terrain against the maus instead of just running around in circles too, the maus went uphill, so the batchat* was shooting the maus underbelly
bold zenith
@strange pecan "Oh, well what's the best up-close tank that's viable in the top tiers?" IS-4, most OP Heavy Tank at tier X
strange pecan
Oh I see, batchat takes skill, have to aim in the right places. I'll take a look at the IS-4
inland osprey
IS-4 might look average on paper
Until you actually meet/use it
Then it's very powerful
strange pecan
Ye it looks normal, but quite a bit of dmg while not being super squish
I still like the batchat tho, zoomiez
inland osprey
You get your first taste of the automatic loading system (autoloader) at tier 6 of the Batchat line, which is the AMX 12t. @strange pecan
inland osprey
French lights and heavies all get autoloaders at high tiers.
viscid dragon
bold of you to call high-tier french turreted non-light tanks “heavies”
real grove
Lol
inland osprey
Sorry
Ultra-lights
bold kraken
Why is this gun not in Blitz for the Panther 2?
This is the same 8,8cm Kw.K L/100 from the E50 but with slightly inferior DPM and accuracy stats. I feel like if this were in Blitz it would suddenly amp the Panther 2's performance by a decent amount.
jovial moon
What if sturmtiger with 380mm gun was added as tier 10 premium tank?
brisk orbit
20s-30s reload like jageroo
boreal harbor
The Sturm tiger could probably be a t8 or 9
bold kraken
I think the Sturmtiger is better left out of Blitz and in the history books. A gun that was 380mm in caliber firing what was essentially a rocket propelled bomb with enough explosive filler to level a building is a bit too powerful for my tastes. The FV215b (183) is already bad enough. It does how much damage with a 183mm HE shell? 1,300? Imagine a 380mm HE shell. It could delete Maus tanks with just the splash damage alone.
west iris
What a sight it would be
boreal harbor
Maybe they could have an event with it like the t49A, where it could be in normal battles for a certain period but it won’t get deleted from the garage and you could use it it training rooms
In training rooms*
I doubt it would happen but it would be cool to see
bold kraken
@brisk orbit I can't remember for sure, but I remember reading about how the time it took to reload each shell of the Sturmtiger was something like 15 to 20 minutes.
brisk orbit
@bold kraken 1 minute reload
bold kraken
it's just too unbalanced. regardless of how you try to balance it. give it a long reload, it needs to have extreme alpha. give it lower alpha, and its reload needs to be faster.
solid gate
Hey guys i need your advice which do i choose Churchill 3 excelsior or t14
viral surge
Can we talk about how unbalanced the “stug lll ausf. g” is? It’s very fast reload, great dispersion, amazing aim time, and insanely good mobility companied with 570 hp without hp boost equipment, doesn’t seem the most balanced for a tank destroyer. I haven’t played the thing though so I don’t want to out right say it’s overpowered, I was hoping for someone who’s played the tank to help me here
west iris
The thing is soft... very soft even on its front
calm inlet
it was better when it had the 10,5
viral surge
Now that I think about it, it is pretty soft, and lol the 10,5 can’t pen anything
viral surge
When I said fast I meant the 57 degrees of track traverse
solid gate
Tier V Stug?
viral surge
Yeah
solid gate
Well,it got nerfed so it's all good
viral surge
Fair enough, thank u
viral surge
I play the t1 heavy a lot, so I don’t know much about the stug other than its super fast for flanking
The su85 is nothing like it either so I wasn’t sure
viral surge
Lol definitely good, I play it often just for laughs
solid gate
If I want to laugh, I drive a derp
solid gate
Gn
brisk orbit
stug iii is fun
ember atlas
@jovial moon you can see sturmtiger in vineyards map. Drive to the ruins and look into the town section outside the red border. Sturmtiger is standing on a bridge. And in rockfield behind the big hangar door I believe there is staying one too but I am not certain about that one.
I've heard 1.5years ago that there were plans to introduce it in the game. Maximum she'll capacity of 8 rounds. But I don't know for what tier it should be.
The 380mm shell could kill a maus in 1shot. Sturmtiger swerve original designed as heavy bunker busters .
surreal wolf
Yes a t10 sturmtiger that can derp. Just like kv2
west iris
How did you guys get the Strv?
lavish totem
People want sturmtiger but yet people still complain about 183. Logic 🤯
arctic apex
121b needs it's credit co efficient fixed
@frigid ember 121b is not enriched in game but is advertised ad being enriched
It should be approx 140-157% credit co efficient but it's actually 90% in game which is not enriched
solid gate
They Type 64 is finally mine. I find it to be a very under rated light tank. I had to seek half my garage to get it but the end result was worth it. Now it is time to credit grind.
https://media.tenor.com/images/e2b09b876793ec28ca48889b4344e3dc/tenor.gif
solid gate
Guys,what's the difference between KV-2 and KV-2 menacing?
brisk orbit
@solid gate legendary camo
solid gate
Ok thanks
west iris
What was the requirment for Gravedigger when it was released?
brisk orbit
@west iris be a good boi
west iris
What do you mean?
half wyvern
@west iris wdym ?
brisk orbit
@west iris "gravedogger"
west iris
facepalms
brisk orbit
nice curse word
west iris
Can I just have a straight answer?
brisk orbit
you gotta get some "cookies" or something in chests and in battle and get enough to complete stages
half wyvern
biogas
tulip sail
@west iris it was an event for Halloween
west iris
You get biogas by wins? Or is this like Panzer 4 S?
half wyvern
depends on tier
solid gate
It was (on win) 10 x tank tier
half wyvern
you needed minimum 300 base xp and depending on your tier you will get 50-100 biogas, minimum tier is tier 5 and wins or losses dont affect if you get biogas or not
but they made it impossible to get tankenstein and gravedigger for free
only one or the other unless u spend gold
west iris
Ahhh. How much biogas was needed to get Grave?
solid gate
Something like 36k
half wyvern
alot, it required like 4+ hours per day, which i just didnt have the time for so i ended up having to spend some gold on it
its great in tier 7-6, not so much in tier 8 as it requires alot of pramo
west iris
Ok say you play tier 7-8 tanks. How many wins do you think is needed to get 36k?
solid gate
It was around 300 or 400
half wyvern
for tier 8 it was like 5 hours per day getting atleast 300 base xp every game
solid gate
But the mad games gamemode made it easier
Unless you glitched and OS yourself within 30 sec
half wyvern
im not sure how i felt about mad games
solid gate
Invisible E 100s and Hellcat 115 kph
half wyvern
that could be used to ur advantage, or be used against you, so i kinda hated mad games
solid gate
There were 10 available modifications, 2 per tank depending on the tank (you couldn’t chose)
half wyvern
i liked wasteland map, but they remove that instead of the trash dynastys pearl map noone likes
solid gate
One was going 50m forward or backwards ultra fast but sometimes it glitched and destroyed you instantly
west iris
Ahh. Lol. Anyways, so still need biogas from Mad Games?
half wyvern
it was halloween event
solid gate
^
half wyvern
not sure when next mad games will be out, but should be one on october, i think it happens every year, it will most likely include tankenstein again and 1 new tank
near forge
I think Mad Games will return with the next update @half wyvern
Cause peoplehave been hyping it for a bit after 5.7 dropped (I believe 5.7 is the most recent update)
half wyvern
i really want a tier x before next mad games, but that will take a while, im just gonna get mauschen first and is-8, then get grille 15
west iris
Ok. So how do you get the Gravedigger in Mad Games?
half wyvern
it isnt mad games, its the halloween event that gave it
near forge
By getting the required cookies and biogas. But that event is done with
half wyvern
and that is the only time it is ever gonna come, i dont think they will reintroduce gravedigger to keep it a rare-ish tank
solid gate
I think that Smasher will be the next Mad Games event reward
*If Mad Games actually come back
half wyvern
every event always comes out on my school days, wake up, and at 8am the counter is about to start in like an hour meaning i miss out on first 6-7 hours of event
near forge
What's the "Smasher"?
solid gate
Some tier 7 KV-2
It’s in the game files and looks kinda like the Gravedigger with sideshields and spikes everywhere
near forge
Ah. That would be amusing to see. KV 2 vs Smasher...which would win lol
solid gate
I’d like to see it derping ISU-152s to hell
regal zealot
Smasher has way better reload and armor compared to the KV-2
150mm frontal turret armor is nothing to scoff at
half wyvern
wth t34 just did 524 daamge to me in gravedigger??? his max roll is 500
half wyvern
how does a t34 penetrate gravedigger with he at the front
destroyed this tiger 2 using prammo in gravedigger and got some very friendly messages
hes pretty much saying that without that prammo you wouldnt have killed me
but you gotta toss in those swear words when your being salty
hes just mad that he lost a 6v3
@west iris the best comparison i can give for the gravedigger is that its like an amx 13 75 top gun but half the damage, and same time to unload clip, apart from gravedigger has 6 shells and amx 13 75 has 3
west iris
I just imagine a Grave digger as a turreted AT 7 with stock gun thst has higher pen
west iris
So faster as well. You have seen an autoloader AT 7 right.
half wyvern
noone uses that gun
hollow moth
12.1 secs reload or pen 300 mm
Make your choice
strange pecan
Just saw a video of a leopard 1, looks like it moves fast with solid dmg
Turret turns pretty fast too
neon iris
Leo1 good tank, fast hull and great gun. E50m does everything as well but has crapload of armor
viscid dragon
The leopard 1 has more standard ammo penetration
neon iris
E50m has more HE alpha damage
viscid dragon
But still a lower firepower than the other mediums
neon iris
But other ways of doing damage
viscid dragon
Ramming for example
viscid dragon
I currently have the Leo 1 and I’m trying to get the E 50 M. I’m currently on the E 50
viscid dragon
Nice, does it still get engine damaged all the time when shot through the lower glacis?
And the PTA is super fun once you get past the initial grind hurdle
neon iris
Nope, engine in back. Also gun depression over the front unlike E50
viscid dragon
Nice, I have to shoot over the side with the E50 when I’m sniping to get decent depression
neon iris
Its a pub stomper that can demolish almost any tank in game when 1v1
It can snipe, its fast, has a LOT of armor, rams well
Has good gun depression and everything
viscid dragon
It’s heavier than some of the heavies at t10
neon iris
65 tons, I sometimes ram even superheavies if the situation needs it
viscid dragon
I love ramming, I’ve got the Maus and that’s my favorite part of it
neon iris
Have rammed a batchat for 1300 and then HE'd the remaining hitpoints in one go
viscid dragon
Nice
neon iris
Then he proceeded to scout his garage instead of my team lol
viscid dragon
I backed the tier ten British medium into a wall with my Maus and did 700 damage just by scraping him against the wall for a few seconds
neon iris
Yeah I have a maus too, its pretty fun to do things like that lol
half wyvern
who pinged me
viscid dragon
Unknown
The most satisfying things in the Maus are ram kills
Especially against “heavies” that aren’t German
neon iris
Like the chinese 113
viscid dragon
Or the t110e5
I wish they let us chose what things we could put on our tanks when they did the mad games
I totally would have put engine accelerator and rammer rig on my Maus and gone to town
strange pecan
So, is there a vulnerable spot you can hit that will damage all tanks? As a noob I was up against a heavily armored t5... I tried hitting different areas but my shots kept bouncing 0_0
inland osprey
Yes there is
The bottom of a tank
tulip sail
Or the top
inland osprey
Or from the inside
tulip sail
I guess if it's an open top
solid gate
Anyone that has got T-34-1 and T-34-2 can tell me their opinion about them pls?
inland osprey
T-34-1 is good and fun.
T-34-2 is fun.
@solid gate T-34-1 is possibly the best non-premium tier 7 med out there.
bold kraken
@viral surge I know it was a very old conversation (9 hours ago) but the StuG III G is fairly balanced
It has an unfortunate habit of running out of ammunition due to the high rate of fire, and before 5.5 I believe you could maximize the track traverse to 70 degrees per second and it had a top speed of 55km/h. It was the epitome of mobile sniper platform. The fact that almost nothing in the game could circle it was just a cherry on top, but my god the armor is garbage. The KV-2 can AP pen the StuG if they're using the M-10, not to mention the StuG also has fairly poor gun arc values (15 degrees to the left or right) and bad gun depression with the 7,5cm Pak 42 L/70 (-7 degrees) so other tanks with better gun depression can ridgeline fight more effectively than it can.
viscid dragon
Not to mention that the engine is paper and almost always gets destroyed when shot
strange pecan
The top? Mm... What about on the interior track, is that the same as hitting the exterior track?
Interior, where underbelly is
bold kraken
And it doesn't matter where you shoot it either. Shoot it in the butt, it gets damaged/destroyed; shoot it in the front LFP and it gets damage/destroyed. Oh and the gunner is a suicidal freak.
strange pecan
But the t5 I was hitting was armored everywhere, with tiiiny cracks I couldn't hit since he always peekaboo'd
Front, side, turret
bold kraken
@strange pecan you need to specify which tank you were facing because otherwise we can't help you. Each tank has its own unique weakspots that can be penetrated, but there are very few weakspots that are truly universal.
strange pecan
Oh... I guess I should just switch targets til he's in a more vulnerable position
Cuz he was uphill with allies, peeking with his side shown
bold kraken
Off of the top of my head, at T5 there are only 2 extremely well armored tanks; the AT-2 tank destroyer, and the KV-1 heavy tank.
strange pecan
Kv1
viscid dragon
The front of the American t5 heavy is well armored too
bold kraken
Ah. Shoot his hull in the lower front plate, or try to get on his side and shoot there. The KV-1's armor is only effective from the front.
strange pecan
Oh... Hmm.
Btw do I have the right idea about getting lots of daily experience? Get a win with all the tanks I own that have the 2x icon?
bold kraken
Alternatively you can try shooting the upper half of his front hull armor, since that portion of armor is very flat an only about 75~77mm effective armor.
tough dune
15/15 gun arc and -7 gun depression is bad?
bold kraken
Yeah you have the right idea. If you're looking for an extra boost to your XP gain you can always use the surplus of boosters that I have no doubt come out of your daily free crates. Always make sure to convert them to the highest grade possible for maximum XP earnings
unkempt fable
Hello
bold kraken
@tough dune in a lot of situations, yes, it can be. 15 degree arc means it has to move constantly when targets move out of your arc, and 7 degrees of gun depression is barely enough to crest some of the small hills in the game.
Moving in a TD isn't something you want to do when you're firing, because most TDs have horrifyingly bad gun handling when turning.
tough dune
@bold kraken Rest of the line have 10/10 with even less gun depression. Only Jagdtiger has -8 gun depression on that line IRC.
strange pecan
After playing a light machine gun, I now have an idea of how skillful good batchat pilots are
My dmg was sooo lowww
bold kraken
?? Jagdpanther has 8 degrees, Jagdpanther 2 has 7 degrees, and Jagdtiger has 8 degrees?
dim sail
Jagdpanther suckss
bold kraken
Jagdpanther > T25 AT imo
strange pecan
Just curious, what's the hardest 1 hit tank? (Rather than dps)
tough dune
Those still have less gun arc and traverse.
bold kraken
@strange pecan FV215b (183) Tier X British tank destroyer. Highest single shot damage in the game.
strange pecan
Has tank destroyer in the name, how fitting.
tough dune
Aside from reverse speed, StuG III was THE gem of german TD before 5.5 for me.
strange pecan
I'll check it out
bold kraken
Well it's tank class is tank destroyer rather than it being in the name.
Conversely the lowest single shot damage in the game was... I believe on the T7 Combat Car with only 8 damage per shot.
unkempt fable
Van itt Magyar?
viscid dragon
The Ferdinand has fantastic arc and depression
cobalt creek
The batchat line is pretty fun, but the AMX 13 75 tier VII is quite underwhelming
viscid dragon
Im on that one right now, it’s kinda lame
strange pecan
So is the side of the tank usually the most armored for heavies?
Hides underbelly
Just watched a video, you get more xp by being a vanguard instead of sniping in the back?
viscid dragon
If you spot and stuff you get xp
cobalt creek
Usually the front is the most armored plate on heavies, but people usually put the side armor to an angle to bounce shots. That's called sidescraping.
And yes, scounting and tracking enemies gives you more XP than sniping
viscid dragon
The best sidescrapers and are tanks with guns in the rear
cobalt creek
bold zenith
Panzer II is a tier 1.
thick trout
Is the type 59 like a mini T-54?
strange pecan
I seem to be doing well with the d2
cobalt creek
@thick trout Kinda, but the DPM is really bad, and it's not as fast as the 54
thick trout
Ok thanks @cobalt creek
lofty wedge
I see a dinosaur in this match
heavy moss
Does the 121B have very vulnerable modules compared to eg. soviet meds?
bold zenith
Ammorack. Think of it as a type 59
valid lodge
What dinosaur?
strange pecan
Geeze, I'm getting wrekt in the b1
valid lodge
Sidescrape
lofty wedge
Grabtraktor
valid lodge
Oh. Wait i might have that tank.
valid lodge
viscid dragon
Gro🅱traktor
lofty wedge
Huh okay then
karmic scaffold
@viscid dragon GroßTraktor
viscid dragon
The 🅱 makes it a meme tho
wraith bough
ẞ
lofty wedge
I think ß looks better then 🅱
wraith bough
Hold down s
worldly umbra
Will Collections tanks ever be buffed
wraith bough
Probably, if they are unbalanced
limpid comet
if they become collecters they're left in the dust
lofty wedge
My T-46 is just collecting dust
viscid dragon
I mean, the point of collector tanks was to give you an impetus to sell them so blitz doesn’t have to worry about them anymore
worldly umbra
My Churchill GC will always be with me.
What's funny is that the tanks that we got for Wargaming's birthday celebration are collector's tanks and essentially trash now. The T7 Car and the Light VIC.
viscid dragon
Good gold generators tho
tulip edge
@worldly umbra yep they can be buffed in the future. Or nerfed.
Im pretty sure the CGC got a subtle buff to its frontal armour when it became a collector
solid gate
I just got the Mauschen on blitz. Any suggestions? Strategies?
tulip sail
Dont get into any games with me I dont qant to fight it
solid gate
Lol ill take that into account
To fight it, just aim for the hatch and lower plate
But playing AS it is less easy
tulip sail
Yeah but my 1 t9 struggles to pen your side armour
solid gate
Well, get a better teir 9 lol
tulip sail
Working on it but the t26 sucks
solid gate
Which one is that?
tulip sail
Sorry m46
viscid dragon
Why do all tier 9 grinds suck
tulip edge
That is a mystery no one can solve
tulip sail
Bc t9 is boring
viscid dragon
I don’t see the logic behind a T-55 or a K-91
Like, why would you WILLINGLY battle at tier 9 when ten and 8 are so better
strange pecan
How do I hit a Matilda with a b1? Only thing that worked was me barely hitting the rear from a side angle
viscid dragon
Lol two high armor low pen vehicles duking it out
coral forge
viscid dragon
Simple solution: STAY AWAY
worldly umbra
I have to ask, will Wargaming stop putting T-54-like tanks into the game. They are anoying enough as it is with the ones we already have.
glass otter
How to play T32?
solid gate
how do you get the gobtractor
west iris
I'd be satisified if the ammount of gold I needed to complete the vent go get that is bellow 2k
viscid dragon
Inb4 this gets added
west iris
Side is flat as an anime schoolgirl.
gun mantlet reminds me of the british
probably british style gun of low alpha high fire rate
west iris
If only you can get some circle 4x4 blocks
primal valve
Yeah, just let me find my other files
west iris
Was it circular or tubular... you know what I mean
Looking forward for it
west iris
Main complaint is that the turret ring is quite exposed
primal valve
Like under the turret ya mean
west iris
nods
primal valve
Ok now ik
And yeah
Althought its major outflaw is that the back is still flat as fck
So next time ima make it a bit less wider
west iris
Hmmm do you have steeper sloped blocks?
Found this in the internet. Seems like a company named COBI is making lego blocks of tanks
primal valve
Ahhh now thats hot
Well i dont have that much slope blocks, but i can sure re-think whit what i have in my lego box that i use for my tanks
regal zealot
Is that supposed to be a SU-85?
That gun sits way too high lol
inland osprey
Gun depression: 0
west iris
primal valve
Very nice 🙃
regal zealot
Looks decent, but I think it’s best to move the COBI chat to #off-topic-discussion
primal valve
Alrighty
west iris
There so much stuff in there that I dont know which part I should hit
zinc marlin
Well its easy. The back crate is nothing but rounds and a chest has a mini nuke
west iris
I dub this tank the Assassin Tank becuase it looks like a fully armored Assassin bug
zinc marlin
Duel 105mms
primal valve
Cool :0
frozen mural
Never seen aiming time getting worse when update tracks🥴
livid yacht
Just french things🤷🏻♂️
tired girder
Wide tracks make for turning easier.. but with wider tracks it makes it more bumper.. no im not serious just making stuff up.
plucky pilot
solid gate
Noice. You built it?
plucky pilot
Yes is Tiger 2 porsche turret prototype
solid gate
I like the camo on it
plucky pilot
Tanks is à camo of Ardenne war
buoyant cedar
lusty junco
Gift tank
solid gate
Replace grille with the waffle
heavy moss
121B modules and crew are so weak you run out of med/repairkits
solid gate
Each nation has it weaks module : engine for Germany, ammo rack for USA, fuel tank for USSR, and as China tried to use all innovations... 🤣
sly wasp
Chine used all the waeknesses combined xD
near forge
Weak Modules for tanks by country:
America: Tracks and Ammo Racks
Germany: Engines and gas tanks
France: They retreated, so who knows
Britain: Ammo Racks and Tracks
China: A picture of the entire tank
Japan: Same as China
sly wasp
You know why french tanks have rear mirrors?
So they can see the front 😂
near forge
The french tanks have two gears: Reverse and MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE IN REVERSE
heavy moss
@solid gate :DDD this is true
sly wasp
Nah mate they even have a forward gear in case the enemy come from the behinde
heavy moss
So the batchat line actually has front mounted turrets. Ive been playing it wrong.
near forge
XD I am physically in pain from laughter @heavy moss
tulip edge
Honestly i have never seen a tier ten british tank get ammoracked even though its not that difficult to hit it
solid gate
Why this silly match making tanks never on same level
fleet berryBOT
✔Василь#4998 was muted
solid gate
im boring with this if match making will be in this way i will delete it from my pc
cobalt creek
@solid gate Any bump on the terrain
gleaming quiver
Does anyone have the Wz-120?
cobalt creek
Nope
gleaming quiver
I heard that it had bad depression when you get the 400 alpha dmg gun
cobalt creek
Yes, it has 3 degrees
solid gate
Mauschen tracks or engine?
near forge
@solid gate Running out of Vodka
cobalt creek
@solid gate Engine
wary saffron
Can we all agree that st emil is a pain in the butt?
thick trout
Why?
valid lodge
Well if it shoots you from afar while your running away, that's a pain in the butt
thick trout
Why run from an emil?
Its cant run, and it has no armour
You can circle it in a heavy
valid lodge
Notice the "from afar" and "running away".
Didn't specify whether you were running away from the Emil. And from afar means you might not even know it was there.
wary saffron
There's rarely a spot where you can actually use it
Even if you find a nice sniping bush it takes one guy to spot you and the rest lights you up with HE fire
The gun might be good but I just got it so idk yet, but I know and can say that the stock gun grind is so bad
You're huge and you have sh*t armor/acceleration/traverse/gun/basically anything, and you have to drive in the same tier as TDs like Hellsings, SU152s, T25 AT, SU122-44, all of which have literally every single aspect about them better than Emil
And these are just TDs, let's not forget that anything else outmanouvers you like any light and medium and a lot of heavies
thick trout
Yeah just wait for the max gun
wary saffron
And god forgive you if you end up in tier 8, because there will always be at least 2-3 IS style heavies
thick trout
It doesnt get massively better but its a decemt gun
wary saffron
That stuff 2 shots you
solid gate
Emil is pain with the stock gun
thick trout
Just hang back and use your drpression
wary saffron
This tank is giving me more depression than just the gun one
solid gate
👌
valid lodge
T25 AT was pretty fun
thick trout
Anyway its more of a tank to grind throgh, jus wait until the borsig
valid lodge
It's front armor is oddly troll
wary saffron
I have the T25 AT and I love it so much, basically find any sort of bump or hill to angle your front up and you become an auto bounce zone
But yeah, you can only dream about that in the emil
short flame
omg T25 at was my fav tier 7. fast, op gun, bouncy armor.
bold zenith
They need to nerf IS-4, it's too troll, and has way too good frontal armor, side armor, rear armor, gun, traverse... Make it more like a KV-1
solid gate
I like the Jagdpanther more than the st emil
But the stock gun and the second gun don't do much damage for T7
I don't have the top gun yet
arctic apex
I remember the is4 side armour says it can be penned but it bounces any way
mellow sand
ikr
wary saffron
Man st emil should be tier 6
fallow venture
Use the 15 degrees of gun depression on the st emil
wary saffron
Name a few places where you can use that depression reliably...
There is just a few maps with actual good spots where you can both hide and use the depression
And if you get flat maps you basically rely on the team only
And there is no peek-a-boom with the emil since it's manouverability makes it more like pe e e (gets shot) e ee e (gets shot again) ee ek-a-boom (gets killed while trying to hide)
Also the games riddled with op premiums don't help
Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating on premiums since I myself own 30 of them, but the emil when compared to them and other tech tree tanks just... Sucks. Sucks bad 😦
Now I know the cannon is what makes it shine, but I'd consider buffing the mobility at least slightly
Cause you can't use the cannon if you can't put it in a right place on time, even if there is a good position for the emil you won't make it there in time, I often end up torn apart trying to move to a TD spot
inland osprey
Heh
bright folio
The emil also has better pen on its standard ap than most other tier 7s have on their prammo, and a higher alpha too.
It also can frontally pen pretty much anything it will face.
Put the top engine and tracks on the emil, and it cap peek-a-boon with relative effectiveness.
short flame
is4 is balanced. when i was a noob it had useless armor, but i still wasnt able to pen it properly. now i am ok, is4 got buffed, i have no troubles penning it.
teal bough
lol
pulsar sinew
Is4 isn’t balanced in comparison to an is7
short flame
it is, because a 40wr bot can do better in is7 than in is4.
for skilled players is7 is the worst, it's balanced because it's the easiest tank to drive
pulsar sinew
The game isn’t based around 40% ers
short flame
would you like to being rekted by 40ers in is7 ? after maybe apcr pen buff?
pulsar sinew
It has lower hp, dpm, a worse hull and turret
short flame
has also less traverse
short flame
you forgot that it has horrible gold pen compared to is4
short flame
make is7 able to reach its top speed. instead of buffing it to compete with a superheavy, buff its speed so it can cover other roles.
pulsar sinew
Why use an is7 over a 113?
There’s no reason other than armor. In which case, bring an is4
short flame
if you have 1% of Downhill in 113 your frontal armor is penetrable by tier 1
if is7 was really faster than 113 there would be a reason, now there isnt.
make is7 the fastest heavy tank, fine.
pulsar sinew
Speed isn’t a reason to have it when there are all the draw backs
short flame
maybs give to it some camo rating. it is no longer able to be in frontline, there are too many there
tough dune
Maybe a bit of gun handling.
short flame
i think they did wrong with wz113 and is4. wz113 should have less dpm, and is4 should be slower than is7.
is7 has same gunnhandling as e100 and vk72. fine as it is
uncut igloo
I don't play with what I'm I doing here
short flame
?
uncut igloo
Wot
short flame
Is4 and wz113 killed all other heavies, excluding maybe e100 and vk72 for the derp, and maus for the armor and because it's the best at side scraping.
short flame
Yes, a buff to side turret armor would make it good again for skilled players, without making it op for noobs that doesnt know angling.
190 side turret armor would be enough.
tough dune
Even better would be to nerf CS buff to HEAT for heavies and Tds
short flame
in this way you're killing e100 even more
because you're downing its heat pen, while is4 Te4 and wz113 would still have an huge amount.
buff e100's turrer side. that's it.
tough dune
370+ HEAT on heavy is TD lvl of pen. Not saying nerf to E100's HEAT only.
Buffing side turret armour won't do any good due to current high CS HEAT on every heavies and tds.
short flame
wtf are u saying omg
+30 base armor on e100's sides means that if i struggle from the perfect angle i can have 50% unpenetrable turret
atm is penetrable everywhere, it's better to hope to absorb heat with gun
tough dune
Then that is just balancing armour with gold ammo in mind. The pen values will only go up if they keep on buffing armour.
I feel like it would be better if WG tones down the gold pen on heavies and TDs.
crimson nebula
Ayy wargaming u gonna mention the storm tiger that’s been leaked yea that is kinda unbalanced
short flame
E100 struggles to pen any tier X hull down ht cause of accuracy and aiming time. want to nerf its heat?...
these high heat pens are needed, without them there would be a spam of unpenetrable tanks.
nerf EVERY ht heat pen or buff e100's side turret armor?..
buffing e100's side turret instead of frontal turret means that it's still EZ pen when he aims at you or when you face a noob e100.
tough dune
So, 370 HEAT on heavies is balanced then? You want to have high HEAT pen yet want to buff armour too. What?
short flame
yes 370 heat for 350 damage is balanced in heavies
since tds can reach 400 with 550, or splash damage with 420+
only e100's turret is having problems against high heat pen heavy tanks, and that's a problem since it's the second slowest tier X heavy tank.
raw perch
buff medium heat pls .-.
short flame
220 pen is enough to pen side armors. and you have 330.
raw perch
nu i cant go through the upper plate of maus and the front of is7 turret
short flame
why would you face frontally a super heavy tank in a med tank? that's meaningless.
and for is7's frontla turret 300 heat is enough for penning that
raw perch
not reliable ;-;
cobalt creek
A medium tank isn't supposed to reliably pen a heavy on the front unless it's a weakspot like a lower plate
raw perch
duh, i just want op mediums
inland osprey
If ya want reliable medium guns, I'd say the Leopard 1 is the closest you can get without firing prammo
raw perch
no that takes skill and brain
inland osprey
Or you could just get an E50M
Yolo around and get 4k damage
raw perch
no thats not broken enough
buff dpm of E50 M so it can auctually be playable as a heavy tank and also as a medium lol
tough dune
E100 is not the only one having problems with high HEAT pens. As it is now armour is negated due to CS HEAT. You want more armour? WG will buff CS for HEAT again.
Calibrated Shells.
raw perch
if you angle then they cant pen
short flame
tell me which armor is negated by heat shells if every tier X heavy turret is autobounce at certain angle.
e100 is penetrable everywhere, tanks like is4, chief mk6, Fv215b, Wz113, Te5, needs to be aimed a lot, even with 49253 heat pen.
raw perch
calibrated shells heat can only pen lower plate - and not reliably if you wiggle - if you angle
pulsar sinew
There is no angle where an e100 can’t be penned
inland osprey
You can only angle to a certain extent.
If all heavies are shaped like pencils, then ofc all will autobounce.
pulsar sinew
You can’t just “angle”
raw perch
medium 330 heat
short flame
that's why i want more side turret armor in e100
raw perch
the bar is hard to hit at med at long range
short flame
yeah, can pen that in e50. with ap obv
pulsar sinew
That’s not the point
short flame
pls buff e100 turret side
pulsar sinew
The e100 gets penned the second it looks to shoot anything
short flame
it's like arl's stock turret atm...
raw perch
wait for them to shoot?
pulsar sinew
The front is so weak that you have to bait their shot before you can even bother
short flame
yeah raik but with more side turret at least i can bounce if i decide to do
tough dune
That is the problem of the shape of turret itself. German heavies except VK72 can only sidescrape to bounce such shots.
pulsar sinew
@short flame I don’t disagree
I’m just saying that the e100 is a problem even when angling
short flame
what's the purpose of a box shape if even with angling you get penned everywhere...
raw perch
just go play some is4 then?
raw perch
i mean, if its op then you play it..
short flame
and also remember that e100 has a fake gun mantlet. it has 0mm of armor behind it, and it has less armor than frontal turret. aiming right in the middle of it with apcr gold round you can pen
raw perch
but no one knows that
they assume that you cant pen it
raw perch
and also it is hard to hit sometimes
short flame
it's boring to play always same op tanks because all others are useless
tough dune
German heavies are littered with weakspot. Upcoming new tank lines will mostly have sloped and rounded turret. Just look at wot PC.
raw perch
duh because the germans are the only one with that genius design
raw perch
maus relies on
omfg theres a full hp maus pushing what are we going to do
short flame
load heat**
inland osprey
Sound of prammo being loaded into multiple guns
tough dune
Lets see how wot pc will buff E100.
umbral seal
Should i go for the t110e5 and is it one of the best teir 10 heavys?
short flame
wz113, is4.
cobalt creek
@umbral seal Depends on whether you like the M103 or not. It's good but the best is probably the IS4
regal zealot
What if the E 100 has a Schmalturm turret instead, like on the E 75?
umbral seal
Im on both the teir 8 variant of the e5 and is4 so here in a few weeks i should know. Thanks @cobalt creek
regal zealot
This, but with the 15cm gun?
solid gate
Who the hell pinged me then deleted his message ? I’m tired of this seriously
regal zealot
It would be in line with the Tiger II and the E 75 in terms of turret design
azure merlin
Pls buff the prem ammo for IS-7
short flame
no
regal zealot
What do you think of the alternate E 100 turret, @short flame ?
viscid dragon
It’s just the e75 turret really
short flame
depends, it has a flat frontal plate, like on e50m
that should be at least 320 base armor to be in pair with actual e100's turret
,= the most thick plate of the game
but still ez pen for many golds, and you cant even work on that :)
also big cupola, idk, prefer the actual turret
regal zealot
But at least it’s smaller target to hit compared to the huge cheeks of the actual E 100.
For me, this turret just fits in line with the turret design.