^^^
#vehicles-discussion
hot tendon
spare forge
Ok, why does every tank have to pen the lower plate then?
hot tendon
@spare forge don’t argue with bots
valid lodge
Don't trash talk your Tds and let them handle it. That Isu-152 will slaughter the vk for you
fallow venture
@spare forge in case the player in the VK is smart enough not to let a light tank flank
tulip sail
And if you can track them for your team if you cant pen them
fallow venture
@valid lodge true, I have an ISU and it has the highest pen amongst my tanks atm
spare forge
@fallow venture what is the role of a light tank in this game according to you
fallow venture
@spare forge dude, I'm talking like one on one in a light tank
The VK is in a nice position preventing flanking
hot tendon
Run Away
spare forge
Superior mobility, view range, accuracy, camo
Well it sounds like you’re getting outplayed, that’s a skill problem not a balance problem
tulip sail
Hit and run
valid lodge
What about the cupola?
tulip sail
Simple tactic but effective
fallow venture
It's not an easy pen
valid lodge
Using what tank?
fallow venture
Even some meds
spare forge
If he’s in a good position then cap the base
fallow venture
Keep in mind, I'm talking all standard ammo nothing premium
valid lodge
I very rarely use premium ammo
A super heavy should not be easily pennable, especially from the front.
spare forge
Well I mean if you want to hurt your already slim chances of winning then yeah use standard ammo
valid lodge
I rarely use it causei rarely need to. Most the time i can still pen without it and a lot of time premium ammo does less dmg so while i bring some in some tanks, i don't usually need to use it
fallow venture
You should be able to pen the cupola not the front
valid lodge
It still shouldn't be easy.
Play your strengths aginst anothers weaknesses. The cupola can already be torn through pretty easy, and in the cases where you can't there are plenty of other options.
pine mason
Does anyone have some juicy memes/
tulip sail
Check #blitz-memes
pine mason
@tulip sail saw them all
tulip sail
Oh then idk what to say
pine mason
@tulip sail you just said "Oh then idk what to say" tho
tulip sail
Google em
pine mason
hmmm good idea
solid gate
"A tank may be good on paper, but battles aren't fought on paper, they're fought on the battlefield and if you can't get to the battlefield, your tank has literally lost the definition of tank."
My standard sentence for unreliable tanks.
(irl)
tulip sail
Pretty much
pine mason
@solid gate you are right - battles are fought on pixels
crude sorrel
Inb4 WT auf E100 comes to Blitz
fallow venture
@solid gate you make absolutely no sense
unique moat
if the wtf e 100 comes to blitz just load HE in the 183 or jagdpanzer e 100
or whatever tank youre using
and aim for its turret which has garbage armor
crude sorrel
WT auf E100 would be pretty balanced in blitz cause of the smaller maps
crude sorrel
WG most likely won't say anything till their official announcement
shrewd basalt
KV-2A 😆
crude sorrel
Well it is tier 8
crude sorrel
Heh
tender ether
or how to make more money
fringe drift
I do not know
tender ether
it's a premium ?
fringe drift
no
flint igloo
Wait wtf
crude sorrel
Lol wow
tender ether
xd wg = genius
fringe drift
sad what we buy the tanks
tender ether
where did you get this screenshot ?
fringe drift
I remember stinks 😋
map world of tanks blizt , I can remember tanks, yes I've never seen a hetzer body with a turret VK28
tender ether
wait for 120 mm
solid gate
and i only have 4k credits and i cant battle at all
no prem tanks or anything so im stuck majorly
solid gate
sigh
tender ether
cry with centurion 7/1
solid gate
i dont know what to do anymore with this stupid pay 2 win game
tender ether
pay ?
solid gate
mhm
tender ether
then win ? 😬
solid gate
this is the last match i acutally did good in and that was months ago i miss my 100 😦
then i gotta deal with this low pen
fringe drift
good
tender ether
nice crazy !
solid gate
question if i buy a vechile pack and i dont like it how do i get a refund? like i got teh wz 111 but i really dont like it anymore
tender ether
you can't i think the only way to get your money back is by not playing with the tank in question
solid gate
uh
tender ether
then ask wg to get a ticket
tender ether
they do on pc (that's true) maybe in wotb too
tender ether
i swear some people got refund after their mistaken purchase
fringe drift
😂
tender ether
that's true glad they deleted it
fringe drift
yes yes yes 😈
solid gate
so i will get my money back?
little garden
As long as you never played the tank, it might work.
opal robin
WZ-111 Model 5A when
modest tangle
@solid gate as said you can only ask for a refund if you have never played the tank
regal zealot
Do you think the mobility for the Chrysler K a bit overcooked? Like 19hp/t is a bit too much.
carmine pulsar
Add the type 60 because it has two recoiless cannon and it would fit in just fine
raven jacinth
at least the peeps who brought the AMX 30 proto will get the AMX 30 B earlier
quasi mirage
Royal ribbon what do u mean
valid lodge
The front wheels on the Chrysler K seem really easy to pen
daring relic
are we getting the FV217 Badger?
Like srly, its 5.7 and we still dont have it. Im getting inpatient with this
shrewd basalt
Lol Lucky I have IS-2SH
inland topaz
Y the valentine called the valentine mk ix now?
And is there nerfs/buffs to it?
autumn thistle
Just a rename
regal zealot
Rename only, still plays the same
carmine pulsar
Yeah it’s just a rename and add the type 60 pls give Japan a tank that is deadly
tulip sail
I got the loza and I love it so much
regal zealot
But it’s not -12°
tulip sail
So?
covert scroll
Lol it's -9 here
tulip sail
Wait was that to me?
covert scroll
No
tulip sail
Lol gg me
covert scroll
Lol
regal zealot
-9? Temperature?
covert scroll
Yeah
tulip sail
No thank you
regal zealot
F, that’s cold
regal zealot
Alright, move to #off-topic-discussion
daring relic
Picture this, Swedish Td’s as perms to start with, a year later they fully come out
First STRV S1 with the early development on the track elevation idea
regal zealot
That would be nice as a test bed
golden citrus
183 literally has worse gun handling than kv2
daring relic
Oof 183 has more gun control to me lmao. Rnjesus has been with me lately, high rolling hitting@most of my shots & surpassed 600 battles in 183
eager ridge
Why do the modules for the Cent 7/1 cost so much exp? The grind to get all the top modules is 50k more exp than the grind to get the tier 10
crude sorrel
Cause Cent 7/1 is kinda broken when playes well against tier 8s
hallow axle
How do you get the Smasher? It is a tier 7 hybrid version of the KV-2
keen mantle
@eager ridge yeah you need to get 150k xp with 226 pen and 190 alpha like what
keen mantle
well yeah I did that, but it's still 90k xp you gotta get
quasi mirage
U go heavy to blxk prince. Then meds to cent 1
90k isnt bad with decent dpm and pen. Try the wz 120 or t54
rose lantern
Will the sheridan be ever added in blitz?
keen mantle
oof currently doing the T-54 one
keen mantle
there's only like one tier 9 I can think of that doesn't have a bad stock grind
that being the Obj. 704
keen mantle
Is it really worth playing the Panther II for though
regal zealot
Hopefully WG make it so that the Panther II can mount the 8.8cm L/100. It’ll look even more silly compared to the 7.5cm L/100 gun on the Panther I.
keen mantle
War Gaming confirms Panther 2 2
inland osprey
Wait
What caliber is the Panther II top gun
keen mantle
88mm buddy
regal zealot
An L/70 something
keen mantle
L/71
inland osprey
Ah okay
I wanna go up the line but I'm worried that the E50 speed might not be good enough
regal zealot
E 50 still can ram at least
The Panther II is your real roadblock.
For it’s size, it’s really easy to pen
inland osprey
Well I'm not so worried about its armor
What about its mobility?
regal zealot
Pretty mediocre too. Only 13.2hp/t, not accounting for terrain resistances and provisions
Just play it as a support medium, it has no place being frontline or being aggressive
The E 50 will provide with slightly better mobility, coupled with a much more reliable hull to work with.
inland osprey
Hmm I don't like mediums without mobility
Maybe I'll give it a shot tho
regal zealot
Get it, the Tier IXs and Xs are worth the grind. They can bully mediums if you can manage to hide that lower plate. Their masses and frontal armor can allocate for pretty effective rams
inland osprey
Okay
But if the TVP T50 comes first I'm totally getting it first
pine mason
I want the rheinmetall panzerwagen
solid gate
Me too
pine mason
@solid gate #lightandmediumplayers
inland osprey
Want Panhard EBR
pine mason
@inland osprey it is called world of ... TANKS ... blitz
solid gate
There’s panhard on PC
pine mason
yes I know
keen mantle
WG made a point of not adding low tier armored cars for a reason, they chose to add stuff that could be loosely interpreted as a tank.
west cargo
Runners vs rammers V2
solid gate
I also want M551 Sheridan and T-100LT
keen mantle
I want the old WZ-131, back when it had the 100mm
solid gate
No need more copycats
inland osprey
I wonder how Blitz will balance the TVP since the Batchat got its magazine size halved
keen mantle
Tier 7 light with a 100mm would be so much fun
west cargo
3 clip w 2 second interclip
solid gate
^
inland osprey
That would make it better than the BC except camo and speed
west cargo
They’ll ruin the TVP. Ik they will. Not gonna have my hopes up
inland osprey
TVP has half the BC magazine in PC
west cargo
Well they can’t just give it two shells
inland osprey
Yeah that's what I was thinking
west cargo
Better dpm than batchat. Faster dump speed. The whole point of TVP. Worse pen. Worse speed. Worse camo.
inland osprey
Or worse, WG will remove the autoloader altogether, like the Foch 155
solid gate
Worse pen ? It would be a total disaster. 240 is already low
west cargo
TVP has one of the worst medium pens on Pc.
solid gate
But WoTB devs have some idea on what’s balance, unlike WoT devs
Less than 240 pen on tier 10 would be pure crap
west cargo
And besides, TVP was supposed to have lower alpha than batchat. But they slaughtered the alpha on the batchat on blitz so if they make the alpha even lower on the TVP it’ll be pretty trash
bold zenith
Oof
inland osprey
So TVP is a weaker version of the Batchat but dumps bullets faster.
But Blitz has already watered down the Batchat
pine mason
If anyone is in Meadsy's discord go there and check general discussion
west cargo
Yea the whole point of TVP was how quickly it can put damage into people. Kind of like The T57 heavy of mediums gun wise
inland osprey
Anyway I will definitely get the TVP when it comes out as long as it still has the speed
inland osprey
Or maybe another generic medium
I still have my hopes
ancient iron
I am genuinely wondering if WG simply..... lack brain cells with them putting the Chrysler K into Blitz.... it's so bad for game balance in WOT so why would it be better for game balance in Blitz that only has +1/-1 rather than +2/-2 I had one battle where one of them (granted driven by a particularly skilled player) casually stomped my entire team.... then because of its rep.... there are completely new player who should NEVER be driving tier 8 tanks who throw their wallets at the game.... so when I finally get a Chrysler K on my team what kind of player is it? a noob.... who drove out rear first in front of a Tiger II, a T34, and an IS6 -_- not side scrape out.... pulled out from behind a building presenting the back of his tank to them....
sly cedar
Sounds like stupidity can makes every broken OP factors like a joke
ancient iron
I've only seen 3 of them so far on the enemy team.... lowest number of battles? 6500..... 1 on my team.... total battles for him? 280 -_-
solid gate
The K Car isn't a big deal. Not unbalanced at all.
pulsar sinew
@ancient iron you realize people with under 1k battles have tier x’s right?
solid gate
T57 any good
fringe drift
hie
smoky dune
The T57 is the hardest American Heavy to get right. It makes you think it’s got decent armor. But it’s got more weak spots than wet cardboard. But when it works? 🤤 Oh, and the mobility is very disappointing.
ancient iron
I genuinely doubt that Rai.... mostly because the XP curve is absolutely insane..... 25K xp needed just to research the AMX 12t.... that's roughly between 20 and 30 good games in the ELC..... but to get to the 13 75 it's 67K that'd be probably 65-75 games.... unless you're getting Raseiniai Heroes' Medals and Ace Tankers in every game.... to get to the Batchat from a fully upgraded ELC it'd take... (assuming you're never getting upgrades that aren't required) 635,320 XP.... that's admittedly only like.... 600 REALLY good games roughly.... but you'd never have any good games that way because you're never getting engine or track upgrades.... IF we factor in those as well... 733,190.... I have the ELC fully equipped and can no longer check the XP cost for everything on it or below it so I went with low ball numbers (I kinda doubt you'd only need about 1000 XP to get everything on the R35+ the AMX 38 but that's what I went with.... if I am wrong I will gladly correct my numbers with the actual ones, but WG makes it nigh impossible to find those out once you've already researched them) and figure it's about 780,490 XP for the entirety of the Batchat line... or probably shy of 800 games.... but lets not forget almost nobody is good enough to be getting 1000 XP games right out of the gate.... I was a semi decent player for a noob to the game and still started off only getting a few hundred XP on a "good" game... BUT to make my previous point about the idiot I had in a Chrysler K on my team more clear.... that window licker only had a 28% win rate.... only had up to tier 2, and had REALLY BAD stats in that.... (I think less than 100 average damage in it) but still had I think 2 tier 8 premiums, and a tier 6 premium THAT is a player who should not be allowed to buy his way into high tier games but does.... and then gets his team extra game losses....
ancient iron
NOOOOOOO REALLLY????? that being said Rai very obviously implied that you could research one and that seeing someone in ANY tier 8 at 280 games shouldn't be shocking or infuriating.... and NOBODY steps to me, a mathematics ace and accountant in training, with anything numbers related, ESPECIALLY when I am not in the mood to deal with stupidity.
zinc dirge
g day SirVanscoy
May be missing the boat here but its better to grind up to tierx than buy in however option is available to buy a premium x rt off the get get go
only solution is to have a restriction on purchased tanks have to coincide with ur skill set battles played exp sort of
valid lodge
SirVanscoy
You forgot daily multipliers, birthday multiplier, xp from missions, boosters, premium bonus, and events. You're also assuming that there aren't any players that would toss $$ to make their grind easier or just buy a tier X on their own. As for your questioning of peoples skills, rerolls are a thing in wotb, so you can't forget about the 70%wr rerolls. Also iRaik said was there are people who have tier X and have under 1k battles, they didn't specify much more than that. So you're "Rai very obviously implied" remark is merely you assuming while also being a bit condescending. I'm also curious as to why you chose the Elec line. Is that the line that requires the least amount of xp?
crude sorrel
Holy walls in this chat
zinc dirge
oh there be essays yep..Good points Hickory
ancient iron
I chose it due to it having the most remaining tanks in my garage other than the British and French TDs and French Heavy line and of the 4 it was most middle of the road...... It appears from my perspective that Rai implied tech tree, I considered double xp, 5x xp, birthdays, etc. But felt that It's best to work off of numbers WITHOUT those as it would be difficult to account for them as is.... I had considered wallet warriors as well but money doesn't make you inherently a better player so it felt irrelevant... Also rerolls are one thing but a player with 28%WR, and 280 games played ruining the game is not a Rerolled account.... It's an a-hole who THINKS money buys skill....
short raptor
Can someone please give the E5 a regular cupola instead of this turd on its head
livid yacht
No
short raptor
At least spend the time making it look nice. It looks really ugly
fiery bear
@short raptor It used to be larger, but was shortened for balance
daring relic
Complaining on cupola lol, still a weak point
Mights as well make a nonhistorical turret when ur at it
short raptor
@fiery bear I know, I was around at the time. And it really isn’t a weakpoint any more. Part of it is because some retard modeled it. You can make a terrible model like that in about half an hour. Mind you, that is pretty typical for the amount of effort and thought WG puts into anything at all
@daring relic the tank didn’t exist anyway
daring relic
learn to like it, tanks arnt clean and “pretty” necessarily so suck it up and stop crying over it, and it did in blue prints
short raptor
I’m not talking about the tank moron. I’m talking about the terrible modeling
daring relic
learn to like it, its not changing
short raptor
But seriously, the thing doesn’t even fit. It takes literally an hour to make it fit and not look like a giant turd. The thing that annoys me is the complete lack of effort
zinc dirge
ez Konigshuar on m comment
devout shadow
Thats how to win a 6 vs 3
Funby. The FCM, T-44 and Tiger II Try try to kill me together.
thorny imp
When will the WZ120 be back in the store؟؟؟
devout shadow
If WG need a new Car
tender ether
It's pay to win/op
odd glacier
When you are shooting an is7 from the side, is it better to shoot at the tracks or the upper hull? Because some of my shots somehow bounces when I shoot an is7 from the side
gusty remnant
shoot below the upper hull
hearty axle
The Leo's tier 2 gun needs a buff 44mm of pen vs a kv1 is not even close to challenging it's damn impossible.
pulsar sinew
@ancient iron nope I actually meant what @west cargo was saying. People can just buy tier x’s
If you’re mad about new players buying the Chrysler, boy oh boy must you love tier x
west cargo
Jesus what happened here lmao
pulsar sinew
Over hyped tank really
west cargo
Dpm kills it for me.
pulsar sinew
I get the decreased damage for the t49
west cargo
I get it’s a balancing feature. But the reload is too slow for too low of an alpha
west cargo
Base dpm is terrible. If you resort to shooting premium you’re basically an E75 e a 30% loner reload lol
Longer*
quaint jetty
KPZ could use a buff for sure, maybe make the gun a little less troll with the pen
Oh, and give it normal HE instead of whatever it shoots
calm inlet
Kpz isnt an American tank in game, so i dont see what the problem is @solid gate
it was a joint project between the Germans and the Americans anyways
quaint jetty
I mean, same vehicle and specs, just different name.
crisp ember
guided missiles
stray prism
Need help with Sturer Emil. Anyone have some tips and pointers?
mint ridge
It has real gun deprecion
And 128 is a good a gun wen you get it
You don't have good armor so you need stay on the back and if you can on hill
Just peaking the gun
regal zealot
Just need to get to a position where you’re most useful. The mobility will hinder you the most, but the gun is godly
stray prism
Thanks
raven socket
T-34-1 or Chinese version IS-2 ?
broken gulch
I havent had the is2 yet however that t-34-1 is a beast. It doesnt have much for depression angles, yet the smaller damage gun and better turret. You will destroy in any to mosy brawls. Its good for long distance fighting, and the turret is tough to hit. Poke behind hills or sidescrap and your set
raven socket
Ok
broken gulch
Most*
Does anyone know how the french fcm 50 t is?
And yeah, thats a tough on to go against at times
raven socket
The French FCM 50 T was a medium tank in tier 8
calm inlet
no need for that, guys
raven socket
@solid gate only you not all of us. Lolz
onyx coral
So what do we think about the Chrysler?
inland osprey
Overrated
I mean, it isn't bad, but it is not actually as OP as some other premiums I could mention
onyx coral
In comparison to the IS2-SH, seems like it has a worse gun but better armor?
inland osprey
Looks like it
And a better turret too
onyx coral
well smaller gun, maybe not worse
keen mantle
Well the IS-2sh is kinda just bad with the huge 120mm effective lower plate
inland osprey
Mmm okay I think I'll start the E50 line
I looked at the Panther II stats and it is quite good
Does that line have a bad grind
pine mason
It is easy but I stopped at stock Panther 2 too slugish when stock for my taste @inland osprey
inland osprey
Oh
Does researching the Leopard line unlocks any modules for the E50 line
pine mason
@inland osprey which leopard - tier 5 or tier 10
inland osprey
10
pine mason
No, I do not think so
inland osprey
Oh well guess I have to save free XP then
At least this grind gives me an excuse to return to tier V
I think most of the line except the IX and X are snipers
vocal dawn
ELC should be nerfed
ELC > FV215b 183
ELC can do 1300 without even shooting, and turn them into a missile
devout shadow
Oof
tender ether
Why post it twice
fallow venture
@vocal dawn that's not an ammo rack?
brisk orbit
kamikaze
devout shadow
See? Vk100 issnt op
sly cedar
That'd makes sans.
devout shadow
Yeee issnt op #2
devout osprey
Tiger is op
surreal cargo
St Emill is the bigest shit in this game.
bold zenith
No it has god depression
hollow delta
It's a good tank. @surreal cargo
hollow delta
HE won't even do splash dmg
livid yacht
That tank is not that bad when it's fully upgraded
(ofc if you weren't serious)
solid gate
anyone from PL?
haughty warren
omg
karmic scaffold
^ It’s the bastard child of a Gravedigger and a Kv-2
surreal cargo
@hollow delta Noo, it is very bad tank, probably the worst in the game. Is useless for the team, sometimes it can do something but it usually does not come in useful
hollow delta
It's actually good when you're skilled enough to play it, it's a hard tank to play. And you really neet to find positions where you can abuse the gun depression @surreal cargo
haughty warren
how do you know all his?
hollow delta
Few thousand battles
livid yacht
@surreal cargo there is a guy called @inland osprey
Maybe he knows something, that you don't ?🤔
unreal gate
@haughty warren What skin is that?
livid yacht
New upcoming event tank
unreal gate
Ah kk
vocal dawn
The tank smashers gun is angled up, maybe it has a bullet drop thing and can shoot over ridge lines
true robin
t34-1 or is 2 after type 59 ?
burnt monolith
burnt monolith
People spending money on wg 🤣 @west cargo
Wg bought a steelfactory with that money 🤷 😂
surreal cargo
When will the Polish tree hit the blitz? 😄
livid yacht
Not in the near future
The current plans are the chinese TDs, and swedish uhmm... maybe heavys, i'm not sure about that
solid gate
God that thing is ugly
tulip sail
Yeah
vagrant iris
hard pewter
@vocal dawn that’s just the stock kv2 turret...
vocal dawn
When did the KV-2 get a stock turret? Lol
hard pewter
dies
dry notch
I hope for another tier 9 and 10 light tank lines. The batchat needs company.
mellow badger
The St. Emil is an awesome tier 7 tank if played correctly
cyan tendon
lol
inland osprey
Yes exactly
Emil is really good
leaden cedar
Vk 100 needs a nerf.
inland osprey
I'd say it is balanced as it is
It is a smol Maus anyway
glass otter
@inland osprey VErY small maus
leaden cedar
If it is almost frontally invincible in most positions it should not have kit it does.
glass otter
@leaden cedaryou can pen it's lower plate
tulip sail
It is a super heavy so....
leaden cedar
hide lower plate makes for ridiculousness
glass otter
It's not that hard and why would fight a SPH?
inland osprey
Well, you shouldn't fight a Maus or any heavy from the front anyway
glass otter
@inland ospreyexactly
leaden cedar
You should be able to, you should not be winning when doing it
tulip sail
@inland osprey except the bdm that doesn't matter bc t4 can pen it
glass otter
@leaden cedar you never heard of armor thickness?
leaden cedar
Or you suck and want a 1 trick pony crutch.
glass otter
Why attacking me bruh
leaden cedar
"you never heard of armor thickness?"
glass otter
Its my opinion oof
inland osprey
Well then why isn't the T95 OP
It is equally immortal from the front
leaden cedar
T95 has no turret and has like 5 hp/t. It's not a good gun either
glass otter
Dude you know you can pen the lower plate and get some damage what more do you want?
leaden cedar
Did I ever deny that?
inland osprey
Well, the VK isn't any faster
And the T95 has a 155mm gun dude
glass otter
@inland osprey 155 mm of freedom
leaden cedar
No, VK has 10 hp/t, T95 has 6.
tulip sail
The cheeks can be penned by pramo
glass otter
Yeees
leaden cedar
What is the most insulting is that the Vk has a good handling gun.
inland osprey
And T95 has completely no weakspots save the tiny cupolas
The VK has a weak lower plate and a comparatively big cupola
glass otter
You can also hit the commanders cupola
leaden cedar
220mm.
glass otter
With pramo if I remember
leaden cedar
Premium ammo isn't- Right this is why baddies should not talk balance.
inland osprey
Lmao I could easily pen the VK in a tier 7 Emil
glass otter
@inland osprey oof i can pen it with a t29 with bad hull armor
leaden cedar
And the VK could snap shot you, and you can't do a thing about it
inland osprey
Well, that is your luck anyway
tulip sail
Dont be in the open
leaden cedar
460 alpha, 0.18 bloom, 220 penetration, almost frontally invincible armor if the driver isn't mentally challenged
glass otter
@leaden cedar what tank are you using for saying to nerf the vk?
leaden cedar
the nerf it needs is simple. Nerf that gun.
inland osprey
I never got a problem fighting VK100s
glass otter
Just nerf the turret traverse imo
leaden cedar
No, nerf the gun, it's* not complicated.
glass otter
Hmm weird I can survive most VK 2-3 shots on my pershing but still anyways this is why the chat exists
leaden cedar
It's got a better gun than pretty much any one of the tier 8 heavy tanks with high alpha, puts them to shame with it's alpha advantage, and adds super strong armor to it, without moving slowly enough to make up for it
It's not that I can't deal with it, it's that it's broken and stupid.
Heck, it can hull down too, just in case
glass otter
Oof why would you hulldown in a VK 100? It's not bad but idk
leaden cedar
Basically, the tier 8 Soviets have to pay a big price for mobility and firepower, VK only pays a bit in hp/t, but then gets top tier firepower and armor. That is broken.
quaint jetty
It's a howitzer, and as for the armor, you got 4 options
- Get to the sides or rear of the turret or hull
- Load Pramo
- Aim at available weakspots
- Abandon it and clear the rest of the reds, it's not a fast boi.
leaden cedar
Drive IS-6.
raven jacinth
no swearing @leaden cedar delete message or warning
glass otter
Can the grave digger get a nerf?
desert cargo
Can someone help me with the t49? I can’t seem to click with it although I’m stock
inland osprey
Grind or free XP the engines
The stock weaponry is passable @desert cargo
desert cargo
Hmm
inland osprey
T49 lives or dies on its speed since a HE shell will rip it apart
desert cargo
I actually did ok in it
inland osprey
Well, nice
You'll have fun when the derp comes
glass otter
Why does the T71 have heat as premium ammo?
inland osprey
I mean, when you get the derp gun
glass otter
What is HeAt for?
inland osprey
Hmmm
Well you get what is already installed
That's probably why the AMX 13 75 is more popular since it has APCR
desert cargo
@inland osprey got the derp but I’m 21% 14 games in smh
inland osprey
You'll get better
desert cargo
77% crew is so stupid with a 7s aimtime
inland osprey
It is a derp
leaden cedar
13 75 should be buffed.
glass otter
Why?
inland osprey
You mean it isn't good?
13 75 is very fun imo
tulip sail
Its pretty balanced aswell
proper shale
I had the same gun as AMX 12 t, plz add a new gun, even though I don’t have it yet.
Buff it’s guns, same as amx 12
inland osprey
With better aim time and reload
Really, the AMX 13 75 is performing quite above your average light tank
proper shale
Still not much besides aiming for 13 90.
inland osprey
Actually most people want WG to buff the 13 90 and not the 13 75
leaden cedar
13 90 and 13 75 are both bad.
inland osprey
Well you get it first and try it out
The 13 75 gun has better stats than the 12t, at least when I tried it out
leaden cedar
It was an LT that focused on firepower and exchanged some mobility for it. Then WG took away the firepower.
inland osprey
No no
All French autoloaders have standard 3 shells on their top guns
proper shale
Oh even the tier 9 amx?
leaden cedar
No, AMX 13 75 needs the burst back, and some acc
proper shale
FT Renault used to have 7 shot gun
leaden cedar
Now excuse me while I avoid the low IQ Blitz baddies
inland osprey
The Batchat AP?
Yes, on its top gun
Its stock 90mm have 4 @proper shale
proper shale
Ik I looked at it
In wot pc version amx 50 b has 4 shells though, ik they had to nerf it for blitz.
Hey abt the Super Persihing,
proper shale
Y does it have to have springs and the T-25/2 have th me AT version of the gun doesn’t need springs?
inland osprey
What do you mean by springs
quasi mirage
The batchar 25t needs 350 dmg with 4 shells
proper shale
Hang on lemme show u
inland osprey
Well WG won't even buff the alpha
raven jacinth
I love how the T-43 can bounce shots from the rear because the rear technically has more armor than the front
the rear is more angled than the front btw
inland osprey
Lel
I don't really use the T43 since I've already have the tanks in front unlocked
tulip sail
Bc there different turrets
They both have the recoil springs just one is in side one isnt
proper shale
Ohhhhhhh thx
quaint jetty
I might get the panther M10 for lols
proper shale
Copy um sir, why is that tank’s chacci different?
😕🇺🇸😑🙄🤔😣😞
😫😩😫😰
: I have no idea sgt.
tulip sail
@solid gate I absolutely love the Shermans
solid gate
ISU or VK100? Trynna get some opinions
tulip sail
Isu
solid gate
Me too dude
tulip sail
Now the hard part which m4 is your favorite
solid gate
Ooh, that’s a tough one.
tulip sail
Not for me but its close
solid gate
Prooooobably the easy 8
tulip sail
I like the shrieking the most
solid gate
Oh
tulip sail
Yeah I love the e8 so much I instantly got the camo
solid gate
Nice, do you know the backstory behind that camo?
tulip sail
Why yes I do I'm a bit obsessed with the m4
solid gate
Nice
tulip sail
Yeah and tbh I prefer it over the other common one
solid gate
Which other common one?
tulip sail
Here let's PM so I can send you the picture of it
solid gate
Ok
hushed dragon
nerf darcula pls
hard pewter
Drac needs a buff
Increase frontal armour to 250mm
Top speed needs to be increased to 80
Has to have the old sp1c’s gun
But with 1300 alpha HESH ofc
raven socket
Any idea on the leopard tank? It's tier V
bronze pond
what
raven socket
Orait
raven socket
@dawn falcon Drive it like a medium
bronze pond
dont use T-34 use M4 Shermans
raven socket
@dawn falcon T-34 is For spotting tanks
dawn falcon
Ok
raven socket
@dawn falcon Don't listen to @bronze pond continue using ur T-34
pine mason
T - 34 is very, very good for its tier
raven socket
@pine mason Yea. But that fella told him don't use T-34 use M4 shermans. It's gd for M4 Shermans now is T-34 . Duhh!
pine mason
yes
wise halo
E-50M is like researchable T-22medium
Armor, mobility and good gun
pine mason
I prefer the leo 1 but E50 M is very good too. Leopard1 is very mobile and has one of the highest damage per minute but has no armor whatsoever. E50 M has very good armor but has less mobility and a bit worser gun. @torn laurel
solid gate
Both great but remember one has Armour The other hasnt any
wise halo
👌
inland osprey
I thought E50M is gonna get hit by a nerf?
hard pewter
Nop
lavish totem
@torn laurel Leo is awesome mate. However what alot here are not saying it's a high skill tank. Meaning you need to know how to be effective with camo and reaction/relocation. Play it as a light tank and you'll be fine. Too many times people are going with other meds and trying to hold when he whole red team is in front of you. If you're not behind the enemy you are not playing it correctly imo. Also imho to expand a bit more. e50m and Leo are neither better nor worse. They are 2 complety different playstyles. You need to decide if you can play without armour or you need it.
Leo was my first ever toer x and is now doomed with a sucky WR. But 3k battles I've loved every moment of them. Though honestly lately STB is my go to now for meds.
torn laurel
@lavish totemAnd that I learn by handling both models the vk30.02d and the phanter
mellow ore
Wich should i get the Obj 140 or the T-62A? anyone that have the tanks and can say wich is the easiest one to play.
glacial bough
Neither are easy, 62a better currently for experienced players
140 is pretty middle of the pack now I wouldn’t recommend it anymore
pine mason
@glacial bough but 140 has better win rate, survivability and dmp than the 62A
glacial bough
All comes down to preference I guess
languid rock
More experienced players played the 140 that's why it has better stats
tender ether
Hp
solid gate
Is Obj 268 good tank?
light yarrow
yes
solid gate
@light yarrow its 300k xp
fallow venture
I'm grinding it @solid gate
solid gate
@fallow venture me too, what tank are you on?
fallow venture
The ISU
solid gate
@fallow venturenice
fallow venture
Yes, it's awesome with the top gun @solid gate
Probably the highest pen at tier 8
glass otter
How to play the T71?
solid gate
@mellow ore I prefer the 140. Having AP as its standard round, being more mobile, having a decent front plate, and having 1 more degree of gun depression make for a more flexible tank.
@glass otter don't get shot.
karmic scaffold
@glass otter Spot, then play it like a coward and attack low health tanks. Don’t get into fights with meds. If a Drac finds you, you are dead.
minor canopy
@everyone Collectors tanks are the single worst thing that has ever happened to this game
tulip sail
X
minor canopy
F
solid gate
@minor canopy. No they aren't. They are tanks you can sell for gold. I wish all my premiums were collectors tanks.
minor canopy
Ok but the developers betrayed our trust by making them collectors tanks, which as far as I'm aware of, just makes them nerfable
solid gate
@minor canopy. Any tank in the game can be adjusted as the developers see fit. Tech tree, premium, or collectors. The terms of the EULA that you agreed to allow for this.
modest tangle
Just because they are collectable. Doesn't mean they will be nerfed
minor canopy
Still betrays the consumer as they purchased a tank with certain stats, I mean just look at WOT PC they cant nerf anything
@modest tangle It happens to most of them
modest tangle
What collectable tank has been nerfed
dusk apex
None
modest tangle
But it happens to most of them 🤔
dusk apex
Makes sense. Complete sense
modest tangle
If I had it my own way. All premiums would be collectable. At least if you want to sell them you can get gold back
charred comet
Ya
modest tangle
As for nerfing as spock said. WG can do what they want. If they want a prem nerfed then they can nerf a prem
true robin
m3 lee after the 5.6
minor canopy
Ok then explain why premiums are getting moved to collectable status, besides selling them
solid gate
Not true. They can Nerf as they see fit.
I've said this before. You do not own anything in this game. You are purchasing the right to play a exclusive product for a undisclosed amount of time. That product can be changed as the developers see fit. If Blitz closed up shop tomorrow you would not get tiny models of all the tanks you bought shipped to your house. When you purchase anything in game you are purchasing entertainment. It is up to you to get value from that purchase.
charred comet
Ya
charred comet
Ok I know this is a dumb question but isn’t there a way to transfer the tank from a blitz account to a PC account?
modest tangle
You mean WoT pc
charred comet
Ya or console
modest tangle
No
solid gate
Collector status is assigned when a product is rare and may not be offered again. Premium status is for tanks that are more likely to be offered again.
@charred cometnope.
charred comet
Ok thx
minor canopy
But why? I'm actually curious
modest tangle
He just explained why
charred comet
Lol
minor canopy
Ok why wouldn't a premium be offered
solid gate
Tanks like the GUP and Warhammer tanks are licensed exclusives. WG may not be allowed to offer them again. Tanks that were removed from the tech tree may simply just not be offered again.
minor canopy
Ok thanks
modest tangle
Na slightly wrong
minor canopy
That makes aense
charred comet
Ya but those were premiums before
minor canopy
@modest tangle Those are unlicensed tho, not owned by a brand
solid gate
Some of the converted premiums have but to my knowledge non of the removed tech tree tanks have... Yet. @modest tangle
charred comet
Do y’all know if and when they will offer the scorpion g again
solid gate
Fair enough.
modest tangle
It will be offered at some point
minor canopy
@charred comet I'm going to say yeah
charred comet
Ok
modest tangle
Defiantly
charred comet
Oh ya congrats on 10k meads you
modest tangle
Ty
charred comet
Meadsy*
charred comet
Ya autocorrect can be very annoying
modest tangle
Yes lol
pine mason
Yes just got unmuted
modest tangle
Keep it that way :)
pine mason
I want a revolution
solid gate
That is a good way to be re-muted.
pine mason
maybe idk
haughty void
Dislike premium tanks👍
solid gate
@haughty void. Why?
winter marten
🤔
haughty void
@solid gate We already have enough premium tanks. We need more tech tree vehicles, not premium vehicles. Especially no tier 8 premium tanks.
winter marten
There will never be enough premium tanks
solid gate
Premium tanks support the game. I'd also like to see additional tech tree lines but I don't see why we have to choose one or the other. At the end of the day WG needs blitz to make money, selling premium tanks does that.
winter marten
They aren't doing this for free, u know?😂 @haughty void
fossil violet
imagine running a business that gains no profit...are there any means to continue your business without money to pay your employees or to improve your business? Premium tanks pay the bills and make the game fun.
limpid comet
I would hope to see WG increase the credit coefficient for the LTTB, it's difficult making credits with it
half wyvern
how rare is t26e4 from weekly container? #screenshots
tulip edge
I mean its a tier 8 prem from a rng container in blitz what do you think
solid gate
Winning one is rare. Buying one is not. It is a fairly common premium to see in game.
charred comet
The best tank I’ve gotten from containers is a fcm50t
hollow rapids
Is6 for me, like the first container I opened when they introduced them
This week I got double avatar
😑
tulip sail
For the most part but you'll get a closer feel for it after awhile
glass otter
I have the persh from December but I wanted to know how to play it correctly just in case @tulip sail
tulip sail
Yeah it's basically a med but it also has its own little variation like you can do most things other meds can but other things not so much
glass otter
Let's ask for MuH M1 ABrAmS
valid lodge
Never gotten a big premium tank from containers. I have gotten 5 t-15's though
tulip sail
ive gotten a few
inland osprey
T-15s are a steady source of gold
jaunty oasis
valid lodge
Problem was, they weren't collectors at the time. The free garage slots were very appreciated though
solid gate
T-15 multiple times
T-25
SU-100Y
SU-122-44
T23E3 (already had it)
And a few other low tier premiums I can't remember.
valid lodge
You lucky duck.
raw perch
wow
tulip sail
lol
solid gate
The irony is that I despise playing tank destroyers...
valid lodge
RIP
inland osprey
SU100Y is basically 183 at tier VI
Is very fun
I wonder why nobody complained about the SU100Y while they complained about the 183
valid lodge
Doesn't it do close to 900 with gold?
tulip sail
the 100y cant reliably one shot or almost one shot tanks at its tier
inland osprey
Idk
I got it from Black Friday but I forget
valid lodge
I have it, just don't use it.
inland osprey
@tulip sail well 1300 HESH can't one-shot anyone at tier X too
valid lodge
Might have gotten it from crate, not sure
tulip sail
no but its close to it for a lot of vehicles and it could be because the 100y is a premium and requires a lot of luck or cash to get
raw perch
didnt the su get nerfed though
tulip sail
i dont remember
raw perch
it had like a RoF decrease
inland osprey
I think the main reason is because nobody cares at tier VI rather than tier X
tulip sail
that could also play a part
although i never had a problem with 183s they always ignore me
inland osprey
Well they get tunnel vision if you're in a Batchat
tulip sail
it probably helps that the only tank i have that can face it is an m46 that isnt maxed
ive even gotten pushed out of its way bc i wasnt a big enough of a threat for him to shoot me
raw perch
??
karmic scaffold
Got a SU-100Y once and a Sentinel, which I Never drove, that’s it. that’s why I never buy crates.
tulip sail
yes that actually happened i felt worthless after
inland osprey
Lmao so sad
Not worthy of his attention
raw perch
lol
tulip sail
i wound up either killing him or doing a bunch of dmg over time i cant remember which
{i had the 250dmg gun at the time}
karmic scaffold
@valid lodge SU-100Y damage with gold is an average of 530HP, 663 max. It’s doesn’t have a turret and the camo is absolute crap due to its barn door size.
valid lodge
Ah
charred comet
Hey I want some opinions do y’all hate the st Emil?
valid lodge
Don't have it
inland osprey
No
tulip sail
i had it a year ago so i cant speak on it but they kill me a lot
solid gate
There aren't 4 100Y's in every tier VI match.
quasi mirage
and the su100y doesnt have a turret and decent albiet(Not incredible camo anymore)
hushed dragon
nerf darcula please!
inland osprey
Trick to playing Emil:
Don't play supremacy
livid yacht
Supremacy is the best mode for TDs
inland osprey
Not for Emil
If your team is losing points you won't have the mobility to get them back
At least in Encounter there's a chance to win even if the enemy is capping, since driving half the map to base is better than driving to A, B and C and back again.
livid yacht
On some maps you can cover two bases at the same time
I really enjoyed the Emil in the past and i'm planning to buy it back, but i have to farm credits...
short raptor
I’m laughing my butt off. The BT-7 Art. Is so great after 5.5 since everything got their high caliber guns taken away, so some guy will hit you for 45 dmg and you just smack them right back for 200. On top of this, the M3 Lee is awesome now since it didn’t get nerfed into the floor along with the rest of its tier, in fact, it has one of the highest damaging guns at its tier since its 75 didn’t get its alpha nerfed 🤣🤣🤣
pine mason
I never sold a premium tank that turned into a collector
short raptor
I’m selling mine now cuz I want the Fv201 (A45)
livid yacht
I sold all of them, and bought 3 T8 premium tanks😌
karmic scaffold
@inland osprey That’s true for most TD’s, except fast ones
shrewd basalt
@livid yacht same
west cargo
Only thing st emil has is is gun depression and high alpha gun. Other than that the tanks pretty bad lol
pine mason
@west cargo have you ever played it?
west cargo
Yea pre buff a lonnnng time ago. From what I’ve seen the buffs really only made it so that the st emil can’t be frontally HE penned
pine mason
@west cargo can I get your ingame name?
west cargo
_CoolmathGames @pine mason NA server.
pine mason
@west cargo guess what - just checked your account Sturer Emil is nowhere to be found
west cargo
@pine mason played on my original acc _Quavo. Which no longer exists
I did bad in the st emil if ur wondering.
Like 50% wr or something
pine mason
So what you are trying to say is that you did not play the tank a lot and then you judge it hmmm seems kind of unfair 🤔
dusky lantern
Hmm
faint holly
I wanna try SturmTiger out if WG makes it anytime soon
solid gate
.
Ok that gun will one shot tier 10s
And the blast radius of the shells would be insane
Definitely not coming to blitz without BS changes
solid gate
Add the schwere gustav as a tier 10 TD
livid yacht
And it would be stationary, exept on dead rail and himmelsdorf ?🤔
dark socket
lol, anyone would be able to get under it's gun depression
solid gate
But it would ramkill everything
inland osprey
If anyone would be that smart to stay on the train tracks
The Gustav's blind spot is basically the whole map
solid gate
Against a car 🤔
pine mason
@hearty ember I watched the EXACT same video today
hearty ember
its awesome
pine mason
I swear to God
limpid comet
the SP 1 C against anything with HE
wraith depot
limpid comet
lmao ascended
raw perch
calibrated, [the one that decreases ammo racks], optics
supercharge, [this one depends on ur playstyle, but I choose hp], [dosent rly matter, have +hp]
refined gun, toolbox, [+consumable duration if you have adreanline, other if you dont]
elfin meadow
Need help with Leo PT A. How should I play it since it sucks when it’s stock?
faint plaza
I know what is the pain with this tank when its stock
Try to be a sniper, always be in the back of your ennemies
elfin meadow
What if people tell me to spot or call me a “camper”?
faint plaza
I saved free xp to get the gun after that its easier
faint plaza
Mmm dont worry mate
upbeat glade
@elfin meadow ur suposed to spot
faint plaza
Yeah my advice is not to camp
upbeat glade
That part of ur role
faint plaza
My advice is to be vigilant because stock, the tank is horrible
upbeat glade
Get engine buff and both fuels if u got speed issue, it will fixup with growing crew
faint plaza
Get the gun first I think it is the best idea
zealous anchor
@elfin meadow I have leopard 1 and went thru the stock grind so I feel u lol. For me I went for engine and tracks first contrary to popular opinion, as the leopard line specialises in good mobility. If you are the sole mediums support the heavies, if you deem the situation right you can follow your medium Wolfpack and destroy the enemy. Mostly you don't wanna lead the charge and just provide support firepower for your mediums after they push. If you have free xp now is the time to use it on the gun.
elfin meadow
Thanks
zinc marlin
Anyone else experiencing this
zinc marlin
How does one get rid of the bloody thing. I ain't gonna buy the missile thingy
main glacier
It should actually be gone ofter you "checked" it once. Just once klick on it so it shows how it would look if you bought it and leave again, buuuut I did just that and it also stayed.
Then it didn't show up again at some point, without me doing anything against it anymore.
shut flame
limpid comet
@zinc marlin same here, I put ladders on my LTTB, IS and AMX 13 75 and that kept popping up
true gulch
@limpid comet what u mean?
Ohhhh
Maybe the new attachments production graphics have problems?
If u get what i mean by that
limpid comet
I dunno
light pecan
I like very much the VK 30P, so my cuestion is: is it worth it to buy the Cromwell B?
turbid pond
Is the E25 worth it?
Cromwell B is basically a normal Cromwell so I dont see the point
candid glen
Except that the "Bromwell" has better gun depression, credit coefficient and traverse speed.
solid gate
Cromwell B is fun
grim moss
cromwell is just a great tank
naive cypress
Yep
stark sluice
bromwell is OP
neat bison
it is
hard pewter
jg pz iv intensifies
magic cipher
Wg so rigged, everytime i alrdy spent my money wg will put a tank that i rlly wanted for long time
shrewd basalt
@magic cipher same
glacial bough
It’s not WGs fault
haughty void
I bought the Crom F for 650 gold :-))
glacial crest
Is the E 25 sold with the #1 camo?
candid glen
@glacial crest Nope. Only if you buy the bundle of both tanks.
glacial crest
It's like 11k gold right?
candid glen
ya
sly cedar
1700 seems totally unreal tbh
solid gate
More wallet warriors more high price.....
glacial bough
It was never sold that cheap
solid gate
If you know how to play a tank without getting shot the Cromwell Berlin is a amazing buy
rancid mauve
E25 looks like great fun. The tier 5 StuG is my all time favourite TD for its greatly nobility
So buy or no? Yes, it would be used😂
regal zealot
I used to desire for the E 25, bought gold just to spend it all on crates during the 2016 Blitz Fair. Had I known better, I should’ve bought it through the Auction House...
tacit pier
Bromwell or pz4s
reef shale
E25 - Again and again it says of WG, it does not exist anymore. The camouflage will never be offered again. only one-time offers. And there he is again ....
solid gate
the only tank i had issues with that attachment glitch is the T49, ive did the same attatchments on borsig and su-152 and no problems.
real zephyr
E25 is bad
You have to be out of your mind to buy that for real money when you can get a better tank a tier lower that is in the tech tree.
keen mantle
pretty sure the E 25 does have light tank camo tho, but it's still not worth it
solid gate
Traverse is good on Jagdpanzer IV, fire rate is broken OP. Borderline OP to me
light pecan
@turbid pond @candid glen @solid gate @grim moss @grim moss @neat bison thank d'Or the imputa guys!
severe edge
Ummmm..btw what's the dpm of e25?
solid gate
Ask your dad. @severe edge
real zephyr
@keen mantle e25 does not have light tank camo. It just has very good camo.
@crude sorrel JG PZ IV is noticeably better than the e25. Higher alpha without sacrificing any DPM a tier lower. It has more than enough mobility and camo to excel as a TD. The pitiful 160 alpha at tier 7 is beyond powercrept at this point.
grim moss
@real zephyr and also a really weak engine which often gets destroyed in one shot
supple fossil
CromB a better investment imo
primal nymph
Best investment at tier 6 is victory
that thing is no skill, forehead and w key and just win a 1 v 1
sly cedar
and mashing fire buttons.
real zephyr
Victory isn’t good. Tank has atrocious penetration and has been powercrept like the SU 122 44. @primal nymph
near forge
Bromwell is not really worth the hype...I murdered one in the AMX 13 75
tulip sail
I feel like the e2 is still good but has been power crept a little bit too
I havnt been able to do as good as I used to (but this might just be me)
real zephyr
Cromwell B is worth the investment, but it is still overrated. Everyone has an orgasm over 12 degrees of gun depression, but it is hampered with such a weak turret and no mantlet. The VK 3001 P is simply the best medium at 6.
near forge
The E25 is just a higher tier Hetzer. Change my mind.
solid gate
I always had 2 tanks in my mind to ever think of shopping: Kpfpz 70 (got at auction) and the Chi Nu Kai aka Shinobi for the extreme 228% credit coefficient gains. I hope the latter will be sold soon like the last time, even for 10€
primal nymph
@real zephyr you can abuse the alpha and mobility and whatever armor it has. And it’s flexible enough to punish tanks with good fundamentals
And it’s not like 125mm of pen isn’t good enough for tier 6 anyways
real zephyr
125mm is awful for tier 6
inland osprey
If you can't flank enemies
glacial bough
It’s not a higher tier hetzer, dosent have good armour and has a lot more mobility and a better camo rating
heavy moss
How accurate are the armor inspector models? Because its showing 121B's radio operator/commander and loader in the wrong places. Is it the same in-game?
uncut trench
Lol
And 194 pen for a tier 7 ? @real zephyr
This tank is good but not OP(only for good players i think), good mobility, good dpm, good penetration especially with heat and fun ! Btw i got it for 11 euros (sold my anko sp) so for me it s worth
real zephyr
@uncut trench that’s pretty good
solid gate
Bromwell is great if you have situational awareness and are smart enough to not get shot. The gun depression and mobility make it incredibly flexible. The gun is good enough to get the job done.
solid gate
the D2 and b1 are really bad
manic ember
D2 used to be a god
Then it got dpm nerf
Averaged like 67% with multiple 1.5 k games
R35 though
elfin meadow
I had the attachment glitch on my alt on my Sherman jumbo.
Got the pumpkin and the devil camo
covert ledge
have they fixed the attachement notfication glitch for the lttb yet
tulip sail
Nope there hasn't been an update
glacial crest
So what's your opinion on the Tiger II guys? Finished the turret and the first gun today, halfway through the second one, 85℅ wins in it today. The turret armor seems a bit on the weak side.
short raptor
Yeah, a lot of tanks can pen your turret side from the front
tender vale
short raptor
@tender vale here, use this, the stats are in English:
karmic scaffold
@real zephyr Actually, the T-34-85 tech tree tank is better than the Victory. I like the Kuro Mine and Cromwell B much better for premiums.
west stag
@glacial crest If you can hide a turret cheek then angle your turret and it'll be a pain to pen
real zephyr
@karmic scaffold yes I agree
light walrus
fast firing Tank destroyers are bad, change my mind
light walrus
grille is hard to play due to every t10 being able to pent it with High Explosive, Jagtiger is too big and the Jgpz 4 has horrible gun depression. TD's are supposed to have that big alpha and make players think smarter. When u make fast shooting low alpha tanks you are forceing people to play them second line tanks, if not first
ruining the stereotypical td
short raptor
None of those are low alpha tanks
Middling alpha to middle-high alpha, yes, low, no
light walrus
if that's your prerogative, i have mine
short raptor
I would say a larger hallmark of TDs is big penetration numbers rather than alpha
covert ledge
how do i get the tank smasher that i keep seeing everywhere
light walrus
stereotypical td is supporting tanks that provide LONG RANGE and HIGH Alpha due to the tranverse speeds on MOST tank destroyers and being turrentless (yes i know there are td's that have turrents but we are talking stereotypically) like jgpz e100 and su100y
short raptor
What about tanks like the SU-100? It can be played front line in a pushing role due to great maneuverability and decent armor, even with no turret and high alpha
It is frequently played like that, especially in tourneys
light walrus
still shouldnt be played like that. due to the fact that you are going to try to take the place of a heavy is rediculous
better off staying in the back and utilizing that gun without trading hp
short raptor
You’re not trying to be a heavy, merely exploitive. The entire line plays much like an assault TD, especially the 268 which doesn’t have the shell velocity to snipe effectively
And as an SU 100, you can also use the 100 over the 122
light walrus
i really do understand what you are saying and i agree with most of it BUT in a tourney you would want a tank with a good gun to stay alive. With heaves, they are designed to face other tanks. I do get that the 268 has GREAT ARMOR but its great armor for a td and not compared to other tanks, therefore you really shouldn't frontline them
keen mantle
the armor on the 268 is in no way great it's just trolly
short raptor
You can front line in it, but again, that is usually only when you are pushing. On the defense, assault TDs should stay in back, and I will also say that for pub matches the large alpha TDs like the Jageroo are better, but in things like tourneys, when you can push effectively, the assault TDs are better
light walrus
👌🏿
you can honestly frontline most tanks but most of the time, if ur not spotting or a heavy, or one of the last peeps, you probably shouldnt\
oh and @keen mantle the 268 armor is good because its trolly lol
keen mantle
plenty of TDs have armor that aren't just trolly but actually good
short raptor
Lol, I have honestly bounced more 183 rounds in the 268 than any other tank 🤣
light walrus
yeah lol
short raptor
Sure, the Yolowagon, Foch (to some extent), and Jageroo all have excellent frontal armor, better than the 268, but in those tanks, if someone can pen it, there is little you can do about it. The 268 because of its angling has a higher exploitability by skilled players
light walrus
yeah and plus the 268 gives the person hope of penning and just crushes thier hopes when they bounce
short raptor
And 268 has 2nd highest AP pen, and highest HEAT pen (tied with Jageroo) in the game 👌😂. It’s a fun day when you press pramo and go straight through the upper plate of a Maus
light walrus
but THE most important thing about the 268 is........ that you have fun in it due to the fact that it is a great tank with ridiculously trolly armor and good pen mixed with good DPM
short raptor
I concur my good man. As you can probably tell, it’s my favorite TD (it was also my first tier 10, so high bias on my part 😉 )
light walrus
i am more of a obj 140 player but i can get down with a little 268 action
(yes i know 140 is a medium)
😂
short raptor
Lol, it’s good. My T62 A has a special place in my heart
I wish they would give the 62 a it’s 115 tho...
light walrus
yeee
short raptor
I mean, it would fit with the line’s role. The entire line from the 34-85 all have high alpha guns for mediums, but have lower alpha guns than heavies and the 115 fits that perfectly
light walrus
yuuup i agreee
short raptor
What do you think about the argument that people throw out about if the 62 A got the 115 it would just be a better WZ med? Personally I think they still serve different roles as the WZ is a medium with the alpha of a heavy, not below it. I also put the WZ’s ineffectiveness down to the poor scaling of dmg the 122 gets. It only goes up by 20 alpha at tier 9 when it should really go up by 30-40
light walrus
in my opinion i doesn't faze me i mean jesus we have tanks that can 1 shot you from across the map and people are mad about 20 to 40 alpha is stupid
im gonna go off to watch tv but ill try to get back on in a bit
short raptor
Ye man. Good talk!
light walrus
you too!
pseudo hamlet
Can the is7 get a little buff on its sides? People are going through it like butter. There is spaced armor and the upper part of the hull is V-shaped. Should be better protected than it feels now.
inland osprey
Probably because tier X players knows where to aim
short raptor
Bud, I’m not sure you’re going to find anyone who thinks the IS 7 should be buffed
quasi mirage
Y do u need some bs side armor
hollow notch
The is4 will have what you are looking for
glacial crest
@west stag Yeah the turret is probably the only weak point. The hull is pretty good and the gun sings rather well. I can only try and mitigate the issue by wiggling my turret
@pseudo hamlet Not too sure about the side armor since it was the only thing that just had to be nerfed. The spaced armor can still be ridiculous.
inland osprey
Still a long way off
onyx karma
The Chinese lts above tier VI is T-54 copies
sly cedar
also T-34 hybrid ripoffs
inland osprey
I would welcome more light tanks to the tech tree because I ran out of light tanks to play.
short raptor
I wish we had real light tanks at tier 10. Personally, I would want the Stingray and Sherridan
keen mantle
Also if we add tier 10 lights, we can also add the TAM as a German tier 10 enriched light tank.
short raptor
Ooh! That would be cool!
Unfortunately WG has a thing about tanks produced after 1960
sly cedar
anything's possible before 1970.
valid lodge
Suddenly I have the desire for an Afro attachment
honest delta
Hmm guys, i really dunno if is worth to sell my hardwork tanks for a E 25 and a Cromwell B both with camouflages ?
inland osprey
Um, depends on how much you like your premiums
sly cedar
Unless those prems fits your playstyle, i don't recommend selling hardwork tanks
smoky tinsel
t-22 crazy tank....very very very strong
turbid imp
when it says knockdown, does it mean i did dmg or what exactly what does it actually mean? do i get more xp/silver for doing them?
inland osprey
I think it means you have damaged the enemy modules, but I'm not sure
solid gate
Ribbons don’t provide any bonus and knockdown ribbons are earned by damaging or destroying modules or kill crew men
subtle pawn
regal zealot
@inland osprey um, the Oka is overkill, especially with that 420mm gun
But I would like to see the SU-100 P and the SU-130 PM come into the game
Poorly armored Russian TDs, but have semitraversible turrets and good guns, which are the balancing factors of the tanks.
keen mantle
make it lead to the Obj. 268 V5 at tier 10 which has bad dpm and slightly nerfed mobility compared to the 268 but gets a fully traversable turret
regal zealot
I believe that the light Russian TD line would start with the ASU-85 at tier VI, then the SU-100 P at Tier VII, then the SU-130 PM at tier VIII, then the Obj 120 at tier IX, before ending with the Obj 268 V5. How does that sound, @keen mantle ? Although I believe that the Obj 268 V5 would be an oddball in the paper Russian TD line though.
keen mantle
seems gud
wait actually the 120 seems like the gun would just be way too good at any tier
regal zealot
Well, the Leo 1 gun has nerfed pen compared to its actual gun performance
In WT, it has 303mm of pen at close ranges
The pen on the Obj 120 can be nerfed to Obj 268 levels of pen, while it’s HEAT rounds could have 380mm of pen, that is if it becomes a tier X, which leaves a spot for a tier IX TD
keen mantle
we can always do the WG thing and make something up
regal zealot
That is true, especially with the case of the SU-130PM
hoary lava
268 is the best beginner td in blitz
regal zealot
Definitely true. High alpha, high pen. Also Derps
hoary lava
and if a guuuuud player has it ur ded son
brisk orbit
is the t-44 good? grinding towards it
languid rock
Kinda ^
languid rock
100
It's a pretty ok medium it has a low dmp, as it's the case with t8 mediums but with all the power creeps in t8 nowadays you're maybe gonna struggle a bit
Play it like you have no hull armour and you should be ok
cold moth
Yeah but the T54 afterwards is worth the effort. It is an strong turreted tank with an amazing gun except of its penetration and with nice mobility. Hull also is pretty strong.
And I also wonder... Who the hell uses the 122mm on the T54??
T44*
cold moth
For example
pulsar sinew
Tbh now that the T-34-2 and at-34-3 exist, the 122 on the t44 should get a slight rof buff. It’s a whole round a minute slower
hollow notch
Nah, the t44 should run the 100mm
pulsar sinew
It should run the 100
But with the Chinese tanks running 122s it makes it understandable that the t44 could run it
cold moth
But not very effective. But that's what everyone should decide for themselves. I skipped this tank and went too the T54 over the T54 lt. 😁 👍
slow compass
can u send me pls ? 😄
regal zealot
Oof
Is tank performance still under NDA? @modest tangle
Also, yay. New button to separate the regular tanks apart from elite, collector and premium tanks!
winged furnace
where do the chinese TD tree start with
type 58 again?
near forge
Is it accurate to say the T-44 plays like a heavy? That is what I'm noticing about it
dark socket
T-44 does have 7 degrees of gun depression
near forge
And the gun of the IS line with the 400 damage and like 30 secs of reload XD
dark socket
On WoT PC the T-34-2 and 3 don't have that crazy 1 second aim time
it's like an IS or something (in terms of aim time)
honest delta
Um guys is worth to sell my collectors for this pack, i mean yeah is 2 in 1 but i dunno now, mine choice is yours
dark socket
In my opinion I'd get E 25 because I don't play a lot of VI
honest delta
I love Cromwell B too, she's good also but i dunno, i should get both of them instead only one without legendary camouflage
tulip edge
I personally wouldnt.
dark socket
It would only be worth it if you have like 11k gold left from Christmas event, which my friend does
honest delta
Well i have 0 gold but i have collectors