#vehicles-discussion

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quasi mirage
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Yeah the churchill I's one good part is the pen. Its a turd otherwise

tulip sail
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the armour isnt too bad either

regal zealot
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Hull armor is good, turret armor needs to be angled to be any use.

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I still would consider the Churchill I to have the best DPM amongst the HTs of Tier V

spiral musk
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Great t8 heavy if anyone is interested

sonic raven
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JPanther II or Ferdinand?

regal zealot
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JPanther II hands down

tulip sail
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depends how much of a masochist are you?

tacit jacinth
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JPanther 2! only thing Ferdinand is better is the armor

regal zealot
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Not really. The JPanther II can engage in hulldown and possess way better armor than the Ferdi could ever imagine

tacit jacinth
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The fact Ferdinand gets a hull of Tiger P,

regal zealot
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Meets tier IX. Not very good.
Tier VIIIs can already pen the front of the tank, tier VIIs can engage its weakspots.

tacit jacinth
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sooo Jpanther 2 way way better

regal zealot
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Yep. Outclasses Ferdi in every other way.
If Ferdi had more DPM, that would be a different story

iron blade
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Guys how to git gud in the KV 1S with the 122mm gun?

dusk apex
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Stop to aim

regal zealot
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And always play close quarters. That gun is unreliable at a distance more than 100m

keen mantle
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@iron blade use your broken gun depression and shotgun people

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Seriously why does it have 8 degrees gun depression

regal zealot
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Tank’s fast enough to keep up with the meds, so it can be played like a pseudo medium with a huge gun

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Logic @keen mantle
The 85mm only has 5°, the 122mm has 8°

keen mantle
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👌 makes sense

regal zealot
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Totally not broken

keen mantle
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on PC the KV-85 with the 122mm only has 3 degrees gun depression since the KV-1S got moved down to tier 5

regal zealot
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That KV-1S at tier V looks fun to play with that derp gun

keen mantle
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Yeah it's extremely fun with the 122mm meme gun

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it becomes super broken when you spam HEAT

regal zealot
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61mm of HE pen, 450 alpha. Can’t see anything wrong with that

keen mantle
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the HEAT has 370 alpha and 140 pen

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PC is a scary place

regal zealot
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It is. Heard they got an ammo rebalance incoming. 25-30% alpha drop off is huge

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Us Blitzers only got 15% drop off, and that changed the gold spam by a lot.

bold zenith
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ikr

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#deathtospammersthateverybodyinblitzhatesblamethep2w

sturdy robin
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is anyone have a kv-1 guide here??, its hard to play with that tank even when people say that tank is eazy to use.

keen mantle
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Park at a 35 degree angle with your corner pointing at the other team
move forwards and backwards a little
shoot

tulip sail
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bushka has a vid on it if you need

keen mantle
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it's actually the most braindead non TD in the game

regal zealot
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Vs tier VI, remember your autobounce angles

fiery bear
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WG logic... Removes “OP” low tier tanks.. adds in OP tier VIII-X tanks.. :/

tulip sail
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gotta balance

sturdy robin
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ok, thanks to guide dude, i got 1,8k damage 1 minute ago XD

regal zealot
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Noice

mystic mountain
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Is it me or armor of the IS is just terrible

tulip sail
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It's not great but it's not too bad frontally

brave vale
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Anyone else having issues with these ladder attachments? I got a few of them on some vehicles but now everytime I go to those tanks it keeps on saying new attachment

valid lodge
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It's a very obnoxious bug.
Happened to me aswell

brave vale
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Big time!!!

tulip sail
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Is the m48 a good tank and worth the grind?

brisk orbit
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idk but i like kv-2 cuz i can farm creds with its 152mm

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could just sweep 600-900 damage easily with he

short flame
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well, he damage is around 800-1100 if you pen or less than 450dmg if you dont pen, it has no chance of doing 600-700 dmg lol

regal zealot
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*720-1200 if penetration occurs

oblique pollen
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All 150~155mm caliber have 720~1200 of HE Damage ( Except Kpf and T49 ), they usually do 300~400 splash damage if fail to penetrate

short flame
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yes that's why i said around

sly cedar
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and in some RNG cases, 0.

regal zealot
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Guns, especially the Grille’s gun

hoary lava
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i guess the anko should be a collectable cuz its just a pz4

sturdy robin
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is somebody know how much gold to buy menacing camo for the KV-2??

frozen mural
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Is that new m4 coefficient ??

frozen mural
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Enyone knows hoe much%

glass otter
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Hello how do you play the German T-25?

glacial bough
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Use gun dep and reasonable mobility, don’t go frontline and allow heavies to take the hits. It’s really not that hard. I suggest watching some YouTube vids in it

gritty condor
rustic oar
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Hey guys is mauschen a good tier 9 tank?

gritty condor
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are those part of the turret structure but doesnt provide any real armor?

inland osprey
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@gritty condor
The myth is solved

gritty condor
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just saw. was eating so didnt see until now

tulip edge
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@sturdy robin 650 gold

sturdy robin
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thanks@tulip edge 😃

solid gate
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Just killed meadsy 😅

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Mama is so proud

hollow moth
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I didn't buy Loza's sherman but look like only a russian m4a2e8 sherman

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But you pay almost the same value of a tier 8

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With a lower engine power

solid gate
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Not worth 7/8k ofc

hollow moth
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Full Loza's sherman is 7000

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No wait

tepid briar
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I got gold for Christmas from my parents so I got it because I like shermans

hollow moth
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People can buy a löwe, a jadgtiger 8,8 cm, an Is-6, a T34, a super Pershing and a fcm, but no why not a tier 6?

tepid briar
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I had more gold than I knew what to do with

hollow moth
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I think it's stupid buy a tank with almost the same characteristics of a regular tank

pulsar sinew
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I’ll disagree

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Is-5 compared to the is-3

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T34 to the t32

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Lowe to the tiger 2

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All are either arguably better or flat out better

keen mantle
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I prefer the IS-3 to the IS-5 tbh

pulsar sinew
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And the t34 and lowe print credits

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T54 Mod 1 and t44

hollow moth
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T34 have a tier 9 gun and the very good turret of t30, is5 have a low price for your tier, löwe with a better turret than tiger 2 and a nice gun (one more shoot per minut)

pulsar sinew
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The list goes on. You don’t buy them for unique and different play styles. You buy them for stats

main night
pulsar sinew
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The meta is td spam

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183 spam is a symptom of td spam

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The update doesn’t address the other tds

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Just the worst offender

hollow moth
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@pulsar sinew loza's sherman habe almost the same play style of m4a2e8

tulip sail
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Is the Loza more of an e8 or firefly

keen mantle
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What if we just took the Tiger 2 and buffed the dpm out the wazoo

solid gate
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“Almost” is a stretch

keen mantle
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I do think the Tiger 2 having worse armor, worse penetration, and worse dpm than the Lowe is actually stupid though

main night
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No it changes the meta. The population can accept getting nuke for 640 and keep on yoloing but they can’t accept getting nuke for 900 and keep on yoloing

solid gate
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But it’s the BEST tank of WWII so that’s AlL yOu NeEd RiGhT LmAo

keen mantle
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lmao

hollow moth
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Loza's M4-A2 Sherman need a buff or a lower price for buy because it's almost the same status and the same play style of M4A2E8
change my mind

solid gate
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@hollow moth almost is a very big stretch

near forge
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I took one look at the thing and decided to keep my money in my wallet

hollow moth
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@solid gate focus in loza

solid gate
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It’s the same tank let’s be real

odd glacier
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Cromwell or vk28.01

tender ether
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@gritty condor it's not armor it's view port on t29 you can't hit them

gritty condor
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you can hit them. i tested it

tender ether
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but 0 dmg from front

gritty condor
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yeah but they are still a part of the turret structure

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and it cant be a view port. the view port is on the hull. plus you get no module damage

tender ether
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it's just binocular

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or to aim

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you will never do dmg by hitting them

gritty condor
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from the side tho

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apparently spaced armor

tender ether
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yeah sure because you pen what's behind

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exactly

solid gate
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When u see a Russian m4 Sherman in the store and not sure if it’s bad as the normal Sherman’s or good like the Russian tanks...

gritty condor
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7k is too much for a tier 6

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its a fury clone

rancid mauve
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Seriously, this Super Pershing is ridiculous. The whole tank can be grey, yet you will bounce. I know there is spaces armour, but when my tank has plenty of pen and still bounces.... that is BS

gritty condor
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yeah. t26 is such a bs tank to fight against. it just eats my rhm shells like nothing

solid gate
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Rhm has quite bad pen for a TD
215mm

odd glacier
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Even if the shot pens, it wont do much. Its like schooting off the headlights of a car. Thats probably why it does 0 damage

solid gate
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S p a c e d a r m o r

gritty condor
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the 120mm has better pen tho @solid gate

keen mantle
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21m? that's 21000mm I think that's a bit much lol @solid gate
just making fun of typos lol

solid gate
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True
But usually ppl use 15cm
@keen mantle just mistyped 😂

rancid mauve
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It is ridiculous. The thing bounces shots everywhere. Troll tank.

keen mantle
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It can't bounce shots from the paper sides

gritty condor
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calibrated shells is a nasty thing for lights and mediums 😋

rancid mauve
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Apparently the T26 eats those too

solid gate
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And T26E4 has several weakspots on its front where there is no spaced armor (top of turret, turret cheeks n ring)

odd glacier
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I can pen the the side of a tiger II with HE in my ru251. Its crazy

keen mantle
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@solid gate MG port too

gritty condor
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yeah pray to rng you'll hit it

solid gate
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Rhm has good accuracy

gritty condor
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eh. i feel like im snapshotting way too much with it

odd glacier
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If u take time to aim, u will hit it pretty eausly

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The front of the super pershing is like a heavy tank

gritty condor
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i hate having to load gold just to pen a lowe frontally

solid gate
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No need

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Personally I hate the Löwe. It’s too slow for the lower plate imo and the gun is a bit slow for the alpha.

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Armor is amazing. When you sidescrape the only weakspot is turret cheeks and they’re very small

hollow moth
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Let's be real, it's better than Loza's sherman but you can buy this tier 6 for a higher price than löwe

rancid mauve
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@solid gate mate those weak spots are insanely small, especially the turret. When you engaging in battle, you don’t have time to precisely aim for those

solid gate
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Unless ur in a hull down T34

rancid mauve
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The tank is overall ridiculous

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T34 is beautiful. I love it

solid gate
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Then u have all day to aim bc nothing pens u

fallow venture
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Are Chinese meds worth it?

solid gate
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@solid gate I pen them reliably with russian heavies

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@fallow venture mediocrity past the T-34-1. Go for heavies instead.

fallow venture
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I'm already on T-34-2 and it's starting to be frustrating @solid gate

solid gate
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@solid gate I severely doubt that.

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Facehug it. It works for me, trust it or not

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@solid gate do u not know what hulldown means????

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You can still hit top of the turret, turret cheeks, turret ring

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Penning a hulldown T34 is like winning the lottery, especially if ur in a Russian heavy

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With apcr maybe, but a seasoned player will just wiggle and it will be mantlet bait

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Excuse me, this is a misunderstanding. I thought you were talking about T26E4

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Nope, was talking about the T34 American heavy

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The T26 has cupola weak spots and a big ring

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Then right, when I see a T34 hulldown, I relocate lol. No chance of penning the front turret with a russian heavy

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Yeet, why I bought the 1776 this black friday

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I got mine for free in the blitz treasure event
Sadly I had to wait one year to see T28 HTC on sale

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Tbh that T28 Concept deserves some love. It’s an amazing tank

fallow venture
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Do I sell the T-34-2 and start the Chinese heavies grind?

solid gate
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Idk. Stock grind will be painful in both cases

fallow venture
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More opinions?

frozen mural
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Is the new m4 good coeefficient?

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See that the free pz is much better

smoky dune
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The Chinese Heavies are really fun, if overpriced to repair, @fallow venture but there’s really nothing wrong with the higher Tiers of the Medium line. Think of them more as turreted TDs than equivalent to the Russian Mediums.

fallow venture
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@smoky dune
Great, Thanks
What about Russian heavies or Chinese heavies?

solid gate
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I’d say russian ones

fallow venture
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Why?

solid gate
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Because they have more armor and similar mobility

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IS-4 has very very strong armor

fallow venture
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I've heard bad opinions about the IS-4 grind

solid gate
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The grind is painful, but IS-4 is worth it IMO.
The Chinese tanks will suck while stock too. There’s really few tanks that don’t suck while stock

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If you want good gun, go for 113. If you want very reliable armor, go for IS-4. I personally don’t like Chinese tanks but ppl usually me that they’re good

onyx coral
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Is-4 grind isn't bad

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overall that is

livid yacht
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The T-34-2 is the worst tank in that line IMO, you can see that at #devs-answers as well. That tank is like a worse T-44🙄

onyx coral
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in the IS-4 line?

keen mantle
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Maybe because the tank isn't supposed to compare to the T-44 @livid yacht

fallow venture
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The T-34-2's front armour isn't that reliable and you have 5 degrees of gun depression while the WZ-120 on tier 9 has 3 degrees

verbal wind
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@fallow venture the line of IS7 is really good to

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I would recommend it

fallow venture
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Yes, I'm on the IS and it's a painful tank but I think things get better at tier 8 and above

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I was only thinking if it's worth it or should I go for the Chinese instead

verbal wind
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IS3 is good

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And i love IS8, i got at least 4 mastery badge ace tanker while the grind

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I think the grind is good on the line, and IS7 is worth it

fallow venture
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Great, I'll keep going

verbal wind
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IS7 was my first tier 10, i didn't do research that moment and wasn't that exited to get it, but i played IS8 be ause i loved it

low elk
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did 2 ammoracks in one game. sad that i didnt have replays turned on

honest delta
stone kestrel
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7k or 8k gold for T6 Loza seems alittle much when you compare it to other prem medium tanks in T6. What do people think?

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@honest delta I have the falcon. I like the t34

honest delta
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Well is still a T34, right ?

stone kestrel
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Yes

honest delta
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👍

stone kestrel
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Best tank I've got for gold 😆

honest delta
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The truth is when devs made this wallpaper, they actually forgot to add the World of Tanks Blitz Logo

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Yup, 5.200 gold for her in BF and still i dun regret i got her

stone kestrel
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Got for 8k I think recently but still worth all the gold. Compared to others

smoky dune
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I love the T34. But even when they gave me the Independence in a crate I couldn’t bring myself to field that clownish camo. And since I already had the “normal” T34.... 😁

fossil violet
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haters gonna hate

smoky dune
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Not hate. Just not my style. Too much like the taxidermy eagle.

fossil violet
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Independecne looks goofy

solid gate
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Is the Loza's Sherman worth it?

stone kestrel
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@solid gate not sure

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Looking at stats it suits my game play ish. On the fence

ancient iron
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so.... am I missing something or is the side armor of the t-29 the best armor? .-. because I have had 2 different T-29 players on my team focus hard on showing their side armor to the enemies

stone kestrel
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Who has the Loza's Sherman?

dusky stone
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@stone kestrel there’s two or three videos in #media on the Loza go watch them

glacial bough
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It’s a rip off for the price, first releases are always more expensive

hollow moth
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3 kv2 can kill one maus, 4 hetzers can kill one kv2, 2 bt7 can circle and kill one hetzer but 24 BT7 can't kill one maus

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That's how mafia works

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@glacial bough ya, with that gold you can buy a tier 8 and LOZA'S SHERMAN HAVE THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS OF M4A2E8 SHERMAN

glacial bough
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It’s a bit better I think, but still a complete rip off

hollow moth
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You can buy Loza's sherman without pay gold, yes, just search sherman tec tree

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And the normal m4a2e8 have a better motor

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And you can search an armored turret than Loza's turret

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War gaming only want some money because the player base is stoping to play and stoping to give money

warm hound
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Ive bouth lozas sherman by mistake !! How could get bsck my gold? Anybody know , need help!!!

keen mantle
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Go to WG support and DO NOT play the tank

ancient iron
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Soooooo .-. I just had a hilarious game, but it ended in a draw.... but it made me decide that I am keeping the little leopard

warm hound
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IS-6 je souhaite Thanksgiving!!!

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Lol thanks

ancient iron
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sooooo what are everyone's fav tanks overall in the game?

lost python
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The T-6 Dracula is a good tank.

pulsar sinew
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Skorpion

ancient iron
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I just found something I am unsure on.... which top gun is better on the T37?

regal zealot
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I prefer the single shot gun on it, the autoloading gun is also pretty good.

gusty remnant
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@pulsar sinew play the skorpion like the prenerfed grille

regal zealot
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But never really liked the T37. Too sluggish for an LT.

pulsar sinew
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@gusty remnant I succ. Please teach me

fleet berryBOT
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dynoSuccess SirVanscoy#2985 was muted

regal zealot
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?

pulsar sinew
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F bomb

regal zealot
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Ah

pulsar sinew
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Idk why it’s hard to behave

gusty remnant
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Idk why you think its easy to behave

pulsar sinew
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True

flint igloo
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Lol

solid gate
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@stone kestrel pair the loza with a premium acc or boosters and you have a sniping medium much like the PZ IV s but with better depression and 0.27 accuracy with the refined gun

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top speed is decent at 45 km/h, turn rate is average, armor is ok and you can bounce most machine gunners like leos etc

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camo values are ok

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mostly you rely on ur teammates to spot while you pick them off

hidden pawn
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U mean easy 8 right

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U dont need to sugarcoat it, its similar to the easy 8

quasi mirage
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yeah but the gun is lazer bema

keen mantle
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@solid gate Pz IV S has better dpm, penetration, and mobility with the same gun depression

solid gate
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STATISTICS NERDDDD jk i guess i just prefer russian and american tanks lol

brisk orbit
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ughh

keen mantle
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I've found the Pz. IV S plays very american tbh

brisk orbit
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time to grind for the t-44

keen mantle
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lol do not stock grind the T-44

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Research the IS then free xp the T-44 turret

brisk orbit
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I'm grinding for the t-44

keen mantle
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yeah just giving advice for when you get it

brisk orbit
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ok

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boi the t-43 grind would be hellish

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but the DPM is like magic

inland osprey
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I'd actually recommend the ltwt line tho

brisk orbit
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well too late for that lol

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my t-43 has a 5 second reload

hoary lava
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@rustic oar its gud but u kno not like the maus

rustic oar
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How about mauschen

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Is it gud?

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Imma about to sell vk 100 amd buy mouschen

hoary lava
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they shold nerf bp

solid gate
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Is there a tank with a rifle on the side

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???

rustic oar
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Japanese tanks have some

inland topaz
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@solid gate M3 lee

solid gate
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Oh k thx

solid gate
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anyone know if they'll be bringing the T-49 A rocket tank back? i would like to try it out as it seems quite fun.

keen mantle
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hopefully never

odd glacier
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I didnt play the event but it looked pretty fun indeed

solid gate
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Yeah. I hope they bring it back like with the drac and helsing, and tankenstein and any other special tanks.

fallow venture
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The Helsing is pure OP

oblique pollen
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Helsing is nothing if T6 already circling him

rancid mauve
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Yeah, Helsing has really poor traverse, both turret and tracks.

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Also, where is the logic in giving tanks 70% coefficients?? Even with premium, you will earn maybe a couple thousand credits for doing insane work.

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That’s not really motivating to players without premium to play and grind those tanks, as they can’t keep any credits xD

bright jasper
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I really want T - 49 ATGM back because it was fun tank i have good memories with that tank

inland osprey
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And your enemies have bad memories of getting nuked through the roof or around corners

bright jasper
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Hahah yep!

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I saw only toxic speaking in chats when i killed one enemy

hollow moth
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Somua SAu 40 have a good cannon but it's slow and have a very low armor

inland osprey
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Sounds like the St. Emil

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One good thing about 5.5 is that it made the Somua's 105 relevant by removing the Hetzer's 105.

hollow moth
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I only want one thing in somua

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destroy this useless turret

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Pls war gaming, I'm praying, delete SAu's turret

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Useless, too big and fragile

pine mason
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@hollow moth why are you a sealclubber?

hollow moth
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Sorry but i don't understand what do you wanted to say with sealclubber

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I dont understand what is this and google translator give a wtf word

inland osprey
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@hollow moth
Basically a skilled player who plays mostly low-tier tanks (tier 2 to 4)

hollow moth
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No

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I play with tier 7 and i started to play with tier 8

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But I'm trying to search another lines

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@pine mason i'm not a sealclubber, i only never search any tanks of the french tec tree

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I see the french td tier 7 and i think "look like good"

pine mason
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So why complain about the Td you played for like 50 games!!! @hollow moth

hollow moth
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@pine mason because now i don't search the tier 5 tank

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And i see a big weak point in the tank

pine mason
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your problem

hollow moth
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@pine mason if it's my problem, why do you complain my comment?

pine mason
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because the tanks is pretty good and the hatch is the only thing making it a decent tank

hollow moth
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But the tier 2 armor and the speed make it decent

fallow venture
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The French TDs are great pack-a-punch snipers but if you give them like 2-4 more degrees of gun depression they can be deadly on ridge lines and they can utilise the front armour against higher tiers.

hollow moth
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Somua SAu 40 stronk

valid lodge
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It's odd how so often when somebody mentions using a low tier tank, people assume it's a seal clubber.

hollow moth
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Yes

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When i buy my tier X i will see the japanese tec tree and i never player with any japanese tank

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Chi-ri is stronk

fallow venture
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I'm actually in the Japanese grind atm, on tier 6 so far

tulip edge
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I gave up on the tier 8

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I could not enjoy the sta-1 at all

fallow venture
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I think they should give them more gun depression sonde they're dedicated to using it

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It's unfair that the British comet has more gun depression and armour than the Chi-Ri

rancid mauve
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Mastered the E75 a bit ago. Loving the tank

pulsar sinew
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@fallow venture why?

placid swift
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Is the foch any good?

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The tier 9 foch

solid gate
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IMO yes very good

hollow moth
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I'm loving SAu 40

fallow venture
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@pulsar sinew the whole entirety of the Japanese line is dedicated to using gun depression and they have paper armour, I think it'd pretty cool if they give it like 12:15 degrees of gun depression or more to make a whole new fan base of Japanese meds and I believe that'd be pretty cool

pulsar sinew
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But the auto loader mechanism is presumably much bigger then a standard gun

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In which case it doesn’t have the height to depress the gun based on the internal constraints

solid gate
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Germany says : who needs a roof ? (Sturer Emil lol)

pulsar sinew
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The Japanese line starts with the sta-1

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Not chi ri

fallow venture
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Reaching tier 8 is still a pain and even stock tier 8 is a pain, what I'm saying is WG should take advantage of the minds of the player base and make more play styles

tender ether
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Play isu 152 awesome stock and even better fully upgrade

fallow venture
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@tender ether I have it in my garage, I love that gun

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The top gun, awesome pen and you can one shot a Borsig with HE

tender ether
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this tank is increbible

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love it too ❤

verbal wind
#

What do you prefer? Borsig or isu 152?
I prefer borsig.

rancid mauve
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Borsig looks like good fun

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But I like armour 🤔😂

valid lodge
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I like Isu-152, but i don't have the borsig yet

fleet berryBOT
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dynoSuccess Night Fury#2947 was muted

inner relic
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Pz. IV s

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Why this tank reload so fast?

hollow delta
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Cus

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It compensates with slow turret traverse

inner relic
#

Scavenger

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I hate this tank

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Its like kv2 but on 5 tier

glacial bough
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No it isn’t, there’s two guns

valid lodge
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Scav cant one shot though
Or do you mean how common it is?

glacial bough
#

I think he means the derp gun is troll like the kv2

inner relic
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Ye

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When i play my 5 tier tank it can kill me really fast :(

glacial bough
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There’s 2 guns you know for it bro, the others very accurate

inner relic
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I know i had this tank but i selled it

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For gold ( ̿ ̿°̿ ̿  ̿ ̿ ͜ʖ ̿°̿ ̿ ̿ ̿ )

dusk apex
#

Anyone played the stock type 61

rustic oar
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Any advice on mouschen?

dusky stone
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@dusk apex I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy

dusk apex
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Cuz I need to play my x2 experience and stuff on that starting like now

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And yeah I’m not looking forward to ruining my stats in that tank

strong haven
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Fully stock ARL 39V is good

tender ether
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90 mm dca is incredible

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212 mm of pen at t6 mmmhh feels good

dim sail
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Look at the 100 y 😂

tender ether
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I got it but didn't checked pen

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Worth than arl

valid lodge
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Of the 3 prems currently on sale in the shop, are any worth the gold?
What would you rank em best to worst?

eager ridge
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I don’t think any of the tanks in the shop rn are must haves

quaint jetty
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I mean, you got the cancer infested med, a premium black Prince and an E8 with antidepressants

glacial bough
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It’s not a premium bp not even close to as op

quaint jetty
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Trades a little armor for manuverability

glacial bough
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Not worth it imo

quaint jetty
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Depends on who you are

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I might get it, because I doubt I'll ever get the BP

glacial bough
#

Fair enough

quaint jetty
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It just depends on who you are and what your plans are. I mean, it is a similar, albeit watered down experience from what I've seen.

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Same goes for the other two, though I might get the American, because I'm a sucker for them 😂

glacial bough
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Yeah the t95e2 would definitely be worth it for me if that tumour on top was removed

quaint jetty
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I mean, if it was given more armor

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That'd work too, make it no reliable pen, but not impenetrable

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Sorta like the VK 100 hatch

shrewd basalt
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Lol T95E2 pen its Worse than T26E4

quaint jetty
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T26 is a heavium, E2 is a more proper mid to long range flanker

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Not really for up front brawling like say your Russian meds

shrewd basalt
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I know But E2 pen very Worse for A tier 8 meds

quaint jetty
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So you can pen the front armor in a med? Which is made to be a flanker, shooting at the sides and rear of tanks?

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It's not supposed to be a OP tank

shrewd basalt
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Yeah Even Its Cupola too Big and easy To pen

quaint jetty
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And that's already been said

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It's all perspective

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The VK 100 hatch is an easy pen for some tanks

shrewd basalt
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Its Manusverability is bad For my playstyle

flint igloo
#

When will the E25 come back in stores?

tulip sail
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Probably not for a while

tulip edge
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Last time it was in stores was a few months ago

flint igloo
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@tulip edge you remember how much it was?

strong haven
flint igloo
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Nice

short flame
#

centurion 1 at tier 7 a bit slower with BP gun, seems gud

hushed crag
#

I think the 59-patton is a better version of the t95-E2

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Just because of the turrent armor

ancient iron
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that A45 is pretty cool.... BUT I noticed even aiming slightly up at it the roof was an easy pen... though I was in a tier 8.... BUUUT it's a tier 8 with me standard pen (Super Pershing) also whyyyy is the Super Pershing still considered a Medium tank? it's armored more like a heavy (though it is pretty mobile so I suppose that could explain it....)

pearl dragon
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@ancient iron doesn’t have the armour to be heavy the turret is too weak

tulip sail
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@ancient iron bc the m26 (at that point in time ) was designated a med and blitz is stays pretty close to that

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They should add the m56

inland topaz
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@tulip sailyes plz
It will troll tf out of heavies

tulip sail
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Or be underpowered depending on the teir

zinc marlin
#

Why are people saying that loza's sherman is basically an easy when its more like fury?

tulip sail
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Because the fury is also a premi while there comparing it to a tech tree tank

zinc marlin
#

Hmm

tulip sail
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Bc if they sold the fury they would also probably compete it to the e8 since they are all close

gilded ingot
#

Yes @hushed crag the 59 Patton has better stats overall

regal coral
#

I know I posted it in general, but I really want this as a legendary camo

inner relic
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Battle now is gravedigger xD

solid gate
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T110e5 or M48 Patton?

tulip edge
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@flint igloo around 7500 gold

crystal nimbus
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Guys ? M48 Patton good tank?

calm pulsar
#

Hello, i have 1question. The gun of A-32 will je changing? Beacause in wot computer, he is better and on wot-B it is not very good, we can't pen tier5 or just léopard! ??

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@crystal nimbus yes he is

crystal nimbus
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@calm pulsar it was good but in massive nerfs it was terribly nerfed with all good guns

calm pulsar
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@crystal nimbus you speak about my message or your message ?

crystal nimbus
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@calm pulsar about A32 gun :)

calm pulsar
#

Ho ok, but on computer he reload on 5s ans do 90 damage

crystal nimbus
#

It used to do 200 dmg with reload 11s if I remember correctly it was something like good old bt7 arty but after nerfs both useful only as sold to get golds

livid yacht
#

Just 160 dmg

turbid imp
#

gun laying drive or supercharge for the american t34?

inland topaz
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Gld

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Supercharge just increase shell velocity

tulip edge
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@solid gate im unsure of the patton but the e5 is a solid tank and its pretty balanced honestly

hoary lava
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@regal coral thats some game braking camo lol

glass otter
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how to play tiger I?

raw perch
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like a medium

jade lodge
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Wrong you don’t play it

viscid dragon
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tiger 1 is really just a slower medium

spare forge
#

Or is a medium just a fast heavy 🤔

solid gate
#

Left wing destroyed

strong haven
#

shell velocity reduces the lost of pen in the shell

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example:
1000 meters shell velocity -> shell hits enemy 100 meters away -> shell = 100 pen
1000 meters shell velocity + supercharge -> 1200 meter shell velocity -> enemy 100 meters away -> shell = 120 pen

short flame
#

on which planet you live?

solid gate
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Blue

short flame
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shell velocity has literally nothing to do with penetration loss over distance

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and exactly what should means " -> shell = 120 pen"

odd glacier
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I never use supercharger, I just always go for the gld

short flame
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i use supercharge in e100 cuz i can hit easier far running targets with he

quiet quiver
#

How to play B-C 25 t AP?

jade lodge
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Same as you played the previous models, hit and run, flan

regal coral
#

It's up to you.

valid lodge
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Last one looks really nice

tender ether
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first one is good but i rather play with the tie skin

glacial bough
#

All look good

solid gate
#

Wargaming blitz can we get asu 57 and asu 85

tulip sail
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I would gladly accept those into the game

fallow venture
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@hollow crescent they posted pictures of them starting from tier 6 in #coming-soon

hollow crescent
#

what tier does chinese TD start

tulip sail
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@fallow venture no the asu and the su are different tds

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The asu were airborne tds

solid gate
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AA tanks?

tulip sail
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No

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Airborne as in they would be held in an plane

fallow venture
#

Like AMX ELC, it's also airborne

tulip sail
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To help paratroopers

solid gate
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Aah I see

tulip sail
#

Or the m22 or teterach

fallow venture
#

I don't work for WG but I don't really think they'd add them

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At least not anytime soon, I heard what's coming is the Chinese TDs then Czech and Swedish tanks

tulip sail
#

Possibly premis

fallow venture
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Maybe

odd glacier
#

Through the containers in his turret cheeks

wary scroll
solid gate
#

😳 😳 😳

tulip sail
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Pz 4

tulip edge
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Good job you posted a picture that has been sent about 10479 times

daring relic
#

FINALLY I got T110E3

fossil violet
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I didn't like it

tulip edge
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@daring relic good job. Amazing tier ten to play.

glacial bough
#

We’ve seen that kv2 100,000,000 times STOP SENDING JT

fossil violet
#

yo new kv-tg time to post

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ctrl c, ctrl v

daring relic
#

oof, Im playing warthunder right now seal clubbing Bf 109’s in my SBD-3

tulip sail
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Lol

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@daring relic triggered

daring relic
#

They rage so much cause of my gun pods

tulip sail
#

So do you play tanks navy or planes most

daring relic
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I play planes more 1 day tanks the other

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Im in between, then naval/fleet everyday for 2-3 games

tulip sail
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Ah I play tanks most then sometimes navy rarely planes (I'm bad at them

hard pewter
zinc marlin
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Cuz its fugly

spare forge
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@hard pewter you are driving a tank designed in 5 minutes in the WG breakroom and you are calling other tanks weird?

tulip sail
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Bc it's a German paper project most do look a bit weird

glass otter
#

Hello again @tulip sail

tulip sail
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Hello

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Any good matches with an m4 lately?

glass otter
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Oof I don't have the m4A3E8 sadly

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Nor the M4A3E2

tulip sail
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How about the other in game m4s

glass otter
#

I'm broke for buying the loza Sherman and I don't like the normal sherman

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Anyways gtg I'm gonna see some ww2 shinanigans

tulip sail
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Lol nice and not even the Sherman 2 or firefly

grizzled fjord
#

anyone know how to obtain the panther8,8

tulip sail
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You wait for it to his the store again

hushed dragon
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pls nerf darcula

tulip sail
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Pls

zinc marlin
#

Then that means alot of tanks need to be nerfed

late tree
#

I wonder if anyone here actually likes the grille 15, ive rarely seen anyone use it in tier 10 matches and when i do they dont even do well... me personally i love the grille more then i did the 268

solid gate
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Amx is life !!

inland osprey
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I hate the Grille 15

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The Grille traverses 10 degrees slower than the Emil, despite being faster, and has even less armor

wraith depot
#

Hi

inland osprey
#

Tier for tier,

  • the Emil's gun pens more, despite not having prammo
  • the Emil blocks more shots, especially HE from penning
  • the Emil can abuse ridges to reduce it's profile, which the Grille cannot

Only thing is Emil is slower than the Grille, but fast traverse helps TDs more

solid gate
#

Best tier 8 td?

pine mason
#

WZ 120 1G FT or Scorpion G @solid gate

solid gate
#

Hmmm ok

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@pine mason are the Chinese TDs coming in 5.7?

pine mason
#

yep

solid gate
#

Awesome finally some new tanks 🙂

pine mason
#

For me personally they do not look so good

solid gate
#

But there is notier x Chinese td right?

pine mason
#

correct

solid gate
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@pine mason how is that possible there has to be a tier x right. I dont get it

pine mason
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@solid gate right now there is not but in 5.7 there will be

solid gate
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Ohhh right haha

pine mason
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@solid gate go to #coming-soon and you will see every one except the tier ten. But now that i do not see the tier 10 I am not so sure there will be a tier 10 td... But I will assume so

solid gate
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@pine mason we just have to wait and see I guess

pine mason
#

yep But in wot pc there is tier 10 td

mint ridge
#

Its a isu ate tier x XD

keen mantle
#

@solid gate actually the tier 10 has been in the game files for months

fallow venture
#

@keen mantle where?

keen mantle
#

It's still a supertest tank but if you look on blitzstars there's a very small number of people that have been playing it

fallow venture
#

Okay, thanks

fallow venture
#

IS-4 or IS-7?

main jacinth
#

Stupid question

fallow venture
#

Sorry

dull sedge
#

Pls buff wz-121 pen

main jacinth
#

Is4 all the day

fallow venture
#

Alright then

merry grove
#

Hi guys... I was wondering if you could help me...

The at15, i cant get the hang of it, and ive tried everything from angling and wiggling and hiding the cupola and sidescraping.... Nothing works

Any advice??

ruby forge
#

Hey guys what should I get the m7 or the m8a1?

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and the kv1 or the t34 I dont know??

tulip sail
#

I'd say m7 and it depends on how you like to play

ripe lodge
#

I have a Predator UM does anyone know how to use it

fallow venture
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@ripe lodge it's a big fat autoloader with low alpha, even the AMX 13 75 is better

ripe lodge
#

So shall I sell it

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Or do I need to wait until it’s collectible

quasi mirage
#

Its probably not worth selling it IMO 2500 gold isnt a lot for a tier 7 premium

nimble crystal
#

@ruby forge It all depends how and what your style of playing is. KV-1 is good for pushing the front line by angling and deflecting bullets along the way. M7 is a good push or even sit back snipe tank with the upgrades. T-34 is a good tank practically like the M7.

ruby forge
#

thanks

nimble crystal
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No problem, feel free to come back and ask my questions.

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Some** not my

hoary lava
#

Should I be happy or sad? I will love to sell ma pz4 anko but that crew voice is stopping me and kuro is gud ,help me guys should I sell them for an is5??

nimble crystal
#

I'd go over the stats between them real quick. It adds some reassurance to a decision your about to make.

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Kuro is good, but compare that to a IS-5. One thing I regret is selling a tank I'm good at. One thing I'll say is you got to go over everything so you dont do something you regret.

hoary lava
#

Pz 4 anko is a pz4 literally but it's crew voice is adorable

nimble crystal
#

Well, see if you can find a video of IS-5 crew voice.

hoary lava
#

It's normal i know right

nimble crystal
#

I couldn't tell you, never owned one.

hoary lava
#

I got an is 3 in ma eu account tho ,i aced it too... Man this is a tough decision

solid gate
#

It’s normal. The IS-5 is probably one of the most used tanks in the game at this stage and it makes good credits.

hoary lava
#

Well let's wait for 5.7 then

tulip edge
#

@hoary lava is5 is worth for the price you can get it for. If you want a heavy with good armour, good speed but sluggish traversing and a inaccurate gun go for it

hoary lava
#

thnx

keen mantle
#

I swear the IS-5 is the only Russian tier 8 heavy that has bad accuracy

dark socket
#

yeah IS-5 has bad gun handling, and I'm saying this from the perspective it has Gun laying drive, Vertical Stabs, and both food.

tulip edge
#

I dont know its the only russian tier 8 heavy i have driven but the gun is garbage

keen mantle
#

Every other tier 8 Soviet heavy I've played all have strange accuracy granted by the Russian Number Generator but the IS-5 doesn't for some reason

dark socket
#

I've had the IS-3 and tried the IS-6 on my cousins account and they just seem to have much better gun handling

tulip edge
#

I stopped playing it because i got bored of it but also because my luck shooting that gun was so bad lmao.

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I remember once i had a sp1c in my line of fire and his track ate my shot for 0 damage

hoary lava
#

all russian guns are inaccurate exept its meds and the 263 line

merry grove
#

Sorry for reposting... But i really need help🤔 😂

#

Hi guys... I was wondering if you could help me...

The at15, i cant get the hang of it, and ive tried everything from angling and wiggling and hiding the cupola and sidescraping.... Nothing works

Any advice??

lavish totem
#

use the gun arc@merry grove

hoary lava
#

stock ru is the best stock

pine mason
#

@hoary lava I disagree amx 12 t was the best stock for me

hoary lava
#

u ever played ru??

pine mason
#

I kind of have 1k+ battles in leo 1 and never got the indian panzer so I do not know... @hoary lava

keen mantle
#

best stock grind was the Comet imo

tulip sail
#

I didnt like the comet that much but I do have to agree with that

keen mantle
#

yeah the stock gun was almost as good as the top gun so once you got the top turret it might as well have been maxed

hoary lava
#

im sayin ru cuz look at it its stock and top gun are the came and its HE pen

keen mantle
#

but the RU 251 depends so much on mobility

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and the engines man the engines

hoary lava
#

im currently playin it stock it does work in some cases

median oak
#

Stock Ru is painful due to it needs the engine and tracks to be able to do its thing.

solid gate
#

^

median oak
#

Honestly most of my stock grinds where in +/-2 that I don’t really have a lot of sympathy for folks grinding now.

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Stock Pershing tier X match - load Prammo and aim to track.

burnt prawn
#

113 need a buff in the traverse speed is a pain in the ass rotate when you get flanked :,v

keen mantle
#

That's literally the only downside of the tank

valid lodge
#

What are the chances of them selling the Ram again?

burnt prawn
#

@keen mantle the DPM is garbage whit that penetration but the HEAT is sweet 370 dmg is brutal for a prem ammo is good the 113 but the E-100 has better traverse speed

frigid rampart
#

Type 5 ? Are u thinking about?

tulip sail
#

@valid lodgeim sure they will eventually

valid lodge
#

Hopefully. Don't know why but I want it.

tulip sail
#

Same here

#

I need the m4/m3 family of tanks

timber crypt
#

Su 152 is best tank at tier 7. It's my fave tank.

fallow shoal
#

I had a ~533m he shell oneshot a bulldog lol

warped jay
#

@timber crypt I use the DPM gun

timber crypt
#

Yeah I use derp cause the reload is much better than kv 2

#

And I haven't gotten good with dpm gun yet

pine mason
#

@timber crypt I can kill it with M6A2E1

timber crypt
#

Lol

pine mason
#

easily in that matter

timber crypt
#

I love the fact that dpm gun has a 8 second reload for 400. OOF

#

I'm grinding the su 152 so I can get isu

fallow shoal
#

The isu with the same 122mm has like a 6.5 ish reload for 400dmg lol

fallow venture
#

The ISU-152's top gun is a beast, you can one shot like a borsig with HE

zenith elm
#

the Tier V M4A1 Sherman should have a legendary camo for it (just saying)

#

since how popular it was during the World war 2

#

kinda

hard lagoon
#

I love my su152

tulip edge
#

good for you my man

midnight anchor
#

Tanks

tulip sail
#

@zenith elm I completely agree

ancient iron
#

Sooo..... I just got my first ace tanker in the Super Pershing..... I REALLY love playing heaviums

tulip sail
#

Nice it's a fun tank

timber crypt
#

@hard lagoon What server are u on

#

Because su 152 is my favorite tank

hushed dragon
#

Nerf darcula pls

carmine pulsar
#

Super Pershing is a no skill tank

dusk apex
#

It really is especially when downtiered

proper shale
#

Is that the 90 mm gun with extra armor?

#

And whole tank is leaning coward a little?

#

*foward

livid charm
#

...

tulip sail
#

@proper shale yes the T26E4

fading void
#

Hello

#

I would like to know if I can, ask for a refund for my purchase of an is-6, along with its camouflage I wanted to know if I get back the gold from the tank and also the one from the camo

tulip sail
#

Try sending a ticket nothing anyone here can do

valid lodge
#

You can get the refund if you never drove the tank

tulip sail
#

It loses 70% of its value the moment you drive it off the lot (jk it's a car thing)

valid lodge
#

Good analogy

tulip sail
#

Wait it actually is close to that🤔

valid lodge
#

Probably not 70% but check how many credits it gives you for selling (do not sell it though) and take that number and comvert it to gold. See what you get.

Be very very careful you don't sell it by accident

tulip sail
#

close

raven socket
#

The IS-2 ( 1945) reloading time needs to be fix

#

Reloading time is to long

solid gate
old cargo
round girder
#

Nicc

lethal bolt
#

@old cargo False, the T95E6 has a much weaker hull compared to the T95/FV4201, the hull of the T95/FV4201 would be very similar to the hull of the FV4202

vivid vine
#

buff jpze100, like speed because it is a joke

ionic girder
#

Jagaroo is very good I love it

solid gate
#

Hola

#

I would like to own tank like that but German

jaunty oasis
#

If I have 10,000 Gold, and I want a t8 tank, should I buy the premium one, or a normal premium or wait?

raven socket
#

@jaunty oasis up to u the gold is yours u can decide

misty oriole
#

pay to win

tulip sail
#

At least it's not pay to play

raven socket
#

Type 59 is Op or what ?

#

Or a normal medium chinese tank?

tulip sail
#

I rarely see them so not sure

raven socket
#

I nd a tier V tank alrdy to focus on the event

#

Not only just use tier VII but at least with a tier V tank

tulip edge
#

Type 59 isnt op. If i remember correctly it has armour on the front and turret. Sides are pretty weak and its ammo rack is easy to damage

misty oriole
#

just rusi

tulip sail
#

@raven socket m4 or kv1 are good ones for free

raven socket
#

@tulip edge then is a weak tank iz it?

tulip edge
#

No its not weak. I just generalised it

misty oriole
#

the Americans have amplified armor, rifles

raven socket
#

@tulip sail Then gonna buy bck my KV-1

tulip sail
#

Its pretty fast and not a bad tank

raven socket
#

Not like the CDC ?

tulip edge
#

The armour on the front can be a pain to penetrate if you’re driving something like an ru. Higher caliber guns can get through the hull but the turret can bounce many things.

misty oriole
#

kv 1 have good armor in 2017

tulip sail
#

That works but be careful in t5-t6 games

tulip edge
#

Cdc is more mobile bigger and has pretty much no armour its not like it

misty oriole
#

when they dumped the tanks, the game changed completely

raven socket
#

@tulip sail it's difficult to survive in tier 6

tulip edge
#

drive a tog

tulip sail
#

Yeah your armor becomes much easier to pen but that's what I like about the m4 you can still do well in it at t6 if you play it right an conservative

misty oriole
#

pleas add russian tank t-35(m 1938) or smk

tulip sail
#

Yes

pine mason
#

maybe

misty oriole
#

if,if

merry grove
#

Guys, what are your opinions on the fv 183 line??

hushed dragon
#

Nerf darcula please

#

@merry grove Enjoy 20km/h top speed

merry grove
#

Ohh im enjoying it very much🙃

tulip edge
#

@merry grove tier five is good. Tier six and sevens are quite disappointing. I enjoyed reaching the at15 boasting a much bigger gun arc with a centre gun. Tortoise is pretty good but can be outplayed quite easily. Deathstar makes no sense in the line

merry grove
#

Ye i just golden noobed t6.... T7 i played better but still struggled.... At15 i like the gun arc but there are a lot of weaknesses in the frontal armor (from what i could see in my games) and if im not mistaken the gun mantlet is a weak spot as well? So ye im struggling a lot with this tank, but just trying to get to the tortoise as fast as possible

#

I also think they put the fv in that line because of the really derpy gun... To grind the hell out of yourself for it... And i think it also throws a lot of ppl off trying to get it

tulip edge
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At15 can be pretty easy to pen. But the flexibility it provides with the gun arc makes it more refreshing to play after doing the tier six and seven. The tortoise is pretty much the at15 with a bigger gun and more reliable armour though retains the tumour on the tank.

merry grove
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Can the tortoise trade dmg effectively??

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If it comes to that...

tulip edge
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Yes of course. The tortoise has one of the-best health pools for a tier nine td at 1800. The gun it gets is also on the conqueror and the first gun on both lines you can get which isn’t a medium gun. However since the tortoise doesn’t have a turret it reloads faster than its counter part, the conqueror. The tortoise has amazing dpm and can easily trade shots. Also the line focuses on the fact that you never want to just trade one shot - you want to keep shooting. This is more important on the lower caliber fast firing guns you get earlier in the line but still key on the tortoise

merry grove
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So what youre telling me is grind the at15 as fast as i can😂 😂

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But thanks for this advice, ill keep it in mind when i get hopeless again

tulip edge
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Nah. The at15 can be a great tank. Perma tracking is what you want to do in it. The tortoise retains a fast reload but has a massive increase in alpha making the dpm one of the best

merry grove
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Thats the one thing i like about the tank... The permatracks... Got so much heat for that it isnt even funny

tulip edge
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Yes always try to hit the tracks especially on mobile tanks for obvious reasons

merry grove
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Okee... Thanks again

hot tendon
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Cent. 1 good?

zenith robin
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If upgraded

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As long as you know how to use the turret and upper glacis

hot tendon
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Ik about the turret but is it like the T-43 where you can carry your team?

tulip edge
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its not that good. Pretty eh for its tier

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7/1 is much better. Cent I is disappointing

hot tendon
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7/1 has Hesh

solid gate
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Cent 1 was the low point of the Brit med line.

covert echo
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is the E 75 a good tier IX tank?

dark socket
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It's amazing

covert echo
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why is the AMX 13 90 as expensive as it then?

dark socket
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wut you talken about, AMX Tier VIII

covert echo
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ye

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its like over 100k to research

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and AMX 13 75 is good and all but not great

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Should I get the Panther/m10 or Super Pershing?

keen mantle
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Panther/M10 is probably the worst premium you could get

covert echo
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oh, its good in normal WoT for me XD

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so what is the best premium I could get?

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cause I'm broke for credits

keen mantle
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@covert echo M6A2E1 maybe?

tulip edge
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If you are broke get the lowe? Though personally i prefer t34

glacial bough
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Don’t be silly, the e75 is an easy to play amazing tank for good players

solid gate
keen mantle
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DUDE

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@solid gate delete that as soon as possible and try to play the tank lol

midnight anchor
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@covert echo IS-6, FCM Lowë

pine mason
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@solid gate try to play it!!!please and tell if you can enter a battle with it

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@keen mantle that pic is legit

keen mantle
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I know I'm saying to delete it before WG does something about it @pine mason

pine mason
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@keen mantle I DMed you something

tulip edge
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Im confused

odd glacier
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Should I go for the Russian lights or the Russian mediums?

keen mantle
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lights are better but the mediums are better for the T-54 stock grind

dark socket
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Lights give you top engine, meds give you LB-1 gun

keen mantle
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I think the gun is more important, but ideally play both

mystic summit
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Russian Lights kinda turn into Meds at tier 8+ for example T-54 ltwt is basically a stock T-54 which is good at tier 8

solid gate
keen mantle
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would be interesting but it's meant to be anti aircraft not for anti tank

frozen terrace
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M42 Duster would add variety to the meta while also adding back some of the historical element we lost with the low tier purging. Look at Diablo’s earlier post to see that the M42 was repurposed so it is not exclusively AA.

solid gate
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40mm bofors cannon is used in early tiers and with increased pen could make a very interesting tier VI light tank.

frozen terrace
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In particular, I would like to replicate the low tier Pom-Pom experience at mid tier

solid gate
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Set the pen around 90mm. Make map awareness and flanking ability a must for the tank to be effective.

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I approve of that M42 Duster. It’d make another one bite the dust 👌🏻

frozen terrace
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How many rounds?

solid gate
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But 90mm pen in tier VI seems terribly weak, even for a light tank

slender perch
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That T49A in the garage is one really bad attempt at photoshop.

frozen terrace
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It’s a double barrel, so maybe clips of 2 for each? Or 3 sets of 2?

solid gate
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I'm thinking ten total. Each time you shoot burps out 2 rounds with a 1 second interclip reload. Maybe 12 seconds to load a new clip.

keen mantle
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What if we added like the M113 with an auto cannon instead since that's more modern and wouldn't need an unrealistic penetration buff

frozen terrace
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That sounds about right

solid gate
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@frigid ember it could be a high risk high reward type of tank. Similar in playstyle to the MT-25 running the 45mm autocannon.

keen mantle
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Or maybe the M113 with a 15 shot 30mm because we can

solid gate
keen mantle
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Why not the M113 with like a 15 shot 30mm gun tho

solid gate
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Would be funny IMO

keen mantle
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but like 375 damage burst would be a bit much

noble moss
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legendary camo for leo 1 plz

solid gate
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In tier 6, MT-25 has 360

keen mantle
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true

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come on get a 15 shot 30mm in tier 6 with that M113

solid gate
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M113 is too tall. It's just asking for a 152mm round

keen mantle
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Ah true, but we could probably find something with an M242 or maybe a rarden if it's a British thing and not need to double the penetration

fair shale
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k

solid gate
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I just want something that would allow a good player to sneak up on a red, dump 400 dmg into their engine, start a engine fire, and then race away laughing maniacally.

Is that too much to ask?

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Then read in the chat « Coward » 🤣

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A first battel with the tank mastery

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Just a pro dude 🤤

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@solid gate. Exactly!

keen mantle
solid gate
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Looks too modern...

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Tis is with a first battel 2

keen mantle
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Yeah it is a way too modern (1988 lmao) but it would be easier to keep lose to historical statistics with it while having a balanced tank

solid gate
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This isn't the place. @solid gate stop

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Mmmmm

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Ok (:

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@keen mantle Blitz and historical accuracy don't exactly walk hand in hand.

keen mantle
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true

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What if we put the Warrior in tier 10 with a clip of 30 rounds

tulip sail
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@solid gate it's not too much if you play wt

keen mantle
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Actually that wouldn't be historical either with 30 rounds

solid gate
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I'm just saying. We have a tank that is enchanted by a vampire racing around tier VII. Adding 30mm of pen to a 40mm bofors round suddenly doesn't seem so far fetched.

keen mantle
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yeah true

tulip sail
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Yeah we also have tanks from other realms and well the t5 leopard

frozen terrace
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@solid gate IKR. Why not slightly modify an historical tank to add a little variety to mid tier. Historical elements don’t have to be historically precise. This is a game after all. Pretty sure WWII tanks didn’t have hit points and resurrection kits . . . Using historical tanks is about making the game interesting not about religious arguments over precision and historical accuracy.

tulip sail
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As long as it keeps realistic to a degree I'm fine but getting something completely wrong and passing it as true is what I find annoying

keen mantle
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I just wish WG would only add fake tanks that made sense and would actually work in real life

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you know stuff like the O-47

tulip sail
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I'd much prefer that then to a vampire infused tank...

solid gate
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You mean tanks that has same weight as CDC, but half the size, and that can instant repair their tracks lol

keen mantle
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Makes more sense than the Helsing which only weighs 21 tons and for some reason has 2 cannons which are the same caliber rather than one larger gun which would have much stronger anti armor ability and wouldn't suffer when firing a full salvo because there wouldn't be a second gun for the recoil to knock off target

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And the Scavenger which has two massive weak points that could easily just be bent or snapped off by large caliber high explosive and be instantly disabled

solid gate
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Or Gravedigger for same reasons as Helsing gun

tulip sail
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Yeah that's true but at least the blaze/glacial are more or less possible to make

keen mantle
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Oh lets not forget the Grave Digger which is simply so massive that everyone would spot it a mile off, and considering it's supposed to move decently fast needs an engine which which would break down all over the place, which isn't a good thing anywhere, let alone an apocalypse, and the gun which would make far more sense on a smaller, faster tank where the weight and size of a larger gun would actually be an issue

tulip sail
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And the is3d is a bit of a stretch for it being an autoloader but I could think of a system that could work

keen mantle
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And the IS-3 Defender which somehow manages to have an autoloading system so much more compact than the standard IS-3's 122mm gun breech that it gets an extra 2 degrees of gun depression

tulip sail
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Didnt know it had more gd (I dont have it)

keen mantle
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It has 7 degrees compared to 5 which is just blatantly stupid and makes no sense

solid gate
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But WoTB isn’t meant to be realistic so whatever...

keen mantle
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An autoloading system should take more space not less

tulip sail
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Yeah that's weird

fallow shoal
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When the turret of a wz blaze could theoretically be penned by small arms fire, but can bounce 122mm shells

keen mantle
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Also why does the KV-1S still have 8 degrees of gun depression with a 122mm gun

tulip sail
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"Reasons"

fallow shoal
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The gun is higher set though

tulip sail
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Then the breach hits the roof sooner making it have less

keen mantle
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I'm fine with unhistorical tanks, but WG at least try to add something that would work in real life

solid gate
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And Hans, why the transmission didn’t broke yet

keen mantle
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😂 oof

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WG had to make German transmissions out of Stalinium to make the tanks not underpowered

solid gate
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So German tanks are russian biased 🤔?

keen mantle
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Only the transmissions

tulip sail
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Could you imagine if they had it able to break down

keen mantle
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yeah imagine if it was made with actual German steel lol

solid gate
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« Tiger, u camper »
« But team, the transmission broke »

tulip sail
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they were salvaged so no Russian bais and cracked

keen mantle
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spawns in
Hans, ze transmission broke
cries in German

tulip sail
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If someone actually said that I wouldnt care if they camped for the rest of the game

keen mantle
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Even the bloody WH Predator makes more sense than half of WG's made up tanks

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That thing has a large hatch for visibility which is always important, and has a small autoloading gun so it can use a small turret and minimize the profile of the tank when hull down

tulip sail
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True but the jagdpanther ii isnt that bad

keen mantle
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meanwhile WG makes the Grave Digger, gives it a puny autoloader, then proceeds to drop a massive turret on it regardless

tulip sail
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Key word that

keen mantle
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the JPanther II is a good one, but it's kind of drawing from Russian designs considering the SU-122-44 and SU-101 were competing, so they just drew from that and created the JP 2 as the German SU-101

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SU-122-44->SU-101
JPanther->JPanther II

fallow shoal
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When u played warthunder for so long that u see a tank and first reaction is to shoot the breach so they cant shoot back.

stable zealot
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Oof

keen mantle
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Every time WG makes a good fake it's similar to some sort of Russian tank or just strapping a new gun on to a German tank

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But they can't think of anything original

fallow shoal
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If i shoot someones barrel with a 122mm, i doubt it would still function at full capacity lol

keen mantle
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lol

stable zealot
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There's not slot of actual tanks and mainly half the tanks are ether on blue prints or never built but mentioned @keen mantle

keen mantle
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I know that, but I'd like WG to at least actually try when they're thinking up their own tanks

fallow shoal
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Why not add more nations like on pc instead of trying to make up random stuff lol

stable zealot
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Some tanks share something's...

keen mantle
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They always think of what was successful, but they don't bother thinking about what made that successful

stable zealot
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Ehhh

keen mantle
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And also just remember, WG is the company that thinks autoloaders are more compact than normal cannons

fallow shoal
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Non french and non american that is

stable zealot
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Yep

keen mantle
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IS-3 Defender has more gun depression than the normal IS-3 seems legit

stable zealot
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Man of the tanks in real life have bad gun dispersion and what not so I can see why WG increased them

keen mantle
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which of course would say that since the turret is non oscillating that the autoloading system of the IS-3 Defender is more compact than the simple gun breech of the IS-3

stable zealot
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Plus gun depression (but u don't get it for is3 defender)

keen mantle
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which is blatantly stupid and makes no sense but whatever it's WG right

stable zealot
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I*

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Wouldn't an astonishing system destroy the turret of the is3?

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Autoloading*

keen mantle
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It would be doable to add an autoloader but it'd be capped at like 3 degrees of gun depression or less, which is not what the IS-3 Defender has (it has 7 lol)

fallow shoal
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The emil and the max make sense why they have mass depression

stable zealot
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Pop and hide style for emil

dark socket
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ST-I 8 degrees of gun depression

keen mantle
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That too

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I haven't mentioned that yet because it's not nearly as bad as the KV-1S which also has 8

tulip sail
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@stable zealot depends on how its made

keen mantle
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as in the ST-1 turret is much larger than the KV-1S turret so it at least makes a small shred of sense

dark socket
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^^^

keen mantle
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but the KV-1S turret is made for an 85mm gun, but has 8 degrees of gun depression with a 122mm crammed into it

tulip sail
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Some "autoloaders" arnt actually automatic and just make it quicker to fire by helping load

stable zealot
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@tulip sail it would make sense for a auto loader system to be ib ST-1 but not in a is3

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The size of its turret (for is3) is too small

fallow shoal
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Well there is a difference between autoloader and autoreloader. @tulip sail

dark socket
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IS-3 Defender has a bigger turret than IS-3 but that still too small

keen mantle
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Also the KV-1S turret is made for an 85mm gun but has a 122mm crammed into it and has 8 degrees of gun depression, so the 85mm should have like 10 degrees right? Nope lol the 85mm only has 5 degrees gun depression.

tulip sail
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I'm not sure about that but if the is3d had a cylinder like a revolver and the loader operated a leaver to push each round in then has to reloaded the cylinder that could work

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But by bye to gd

stable zealot
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@keen mantle the reason why WG made the kv-85 on PC version

keen mantle
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@tulip sail could work but not with 7 degrees of gun depression like in blitz

tulip sail
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@keen mantle yeah maybe 2 or 3 max

keen mantle
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maybe 3.5 but that'd be really pushing it

tulip sail
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If the top (of the mechanis) waslevel with the breach

keen mantle
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but you'd still need to make the breech longer then to fit the rammer mechanism, and that would lessen gun depression as it would start colliding with the domed turret rear

dark socket
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one of the balancing factors on IS-3 Defender is the turret hatch that's 20mm of armor

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it doesn't look like you could hit it but you can

keen mantle
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It was 20mm on the both IS-3s at the time so WG still isn't excused

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This is less about balance and more about WG just sucking at tank design

dark socket
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I can often rekt IS-3 Defenders in my KV-5 (with DPM gun) because of it's roof armor

keen mantle
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lol KV-5

tulip sail
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Yeah that's true

stable zealot
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Well if we need to compare auto loaders, can't we compare it with the amx 50 100 with the is3 defender

keen mantle
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which has an oscillating turret and still has less gun depression

dark socket
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KV-5 somehow has lord god armor sometimes

stable zealot
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I prefer kv4 than kv5

keen mantle
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I prefer neither
IS-6 master race

dark socket
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I'll shoot your turret roof

tulip sail
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Actually I dont think the lever would be that problematic since you could have a downward facing one but now elevation would possibly be affected

keen mantle
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I'll just not be close enough for you to do that then

dark socket
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because height and DPM gun

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and if I am

keen mantle
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I'll just kill your team's mediums brutally and efficiently

fallow shoal
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This is when out of left field u are hit for like 600 lol isu152 says hello

keen mantle
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IS-6+ISU-152 is the best platoon composition change my mind

dark socket
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KV-5 can still be a stronk tenk tho, and ramming

stable zealot
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@dark socket ye

fallow shoal
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Is6 and chinese tier 8 td

tulip sail
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Jagdpanther 8.8 is better than isu change my mind

dark socket
keen mantle
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that doesn't exist so you just said nothing is better than the ISU-152

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can confirm nothing surpasses the ISU-152

fallow shoal
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Also this is wotb not warhammer so that image makes your arguement invalid lol

tulip sail
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It has the 12cm (I think its 12cm ) so ha

dark socket
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Warhammer 40k in WoT B

keen mantle
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you typed the wrong thing tho @tulip sail

tulip sail
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Wait I did

keen mantle
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yeah you did

tulip sail
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Lol oof jagdtiger*

fallow shoal
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Would it be so hard to where of i shoot someones barrel that it actually damages it, and not full bounce like it has an infinate armor value lol

keen mantle
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Anyways WG should at least make their fake tanks make sense

tulip sail
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Lol I hate that @keen mantle yes

stable zealot
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@keen mantle ehh

dark socket
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Do the Warhammer 40k tanks make sense

keen mantle
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more sense than WGs at least

stable zealot
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@dark socket kinda

keen mantle
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I've explained why the Predator makes more sense than the Grave Digger already

tulip sail
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The vindicator could have a howitzer

woven stone
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I am just wondering but does any one know anything about a tank called the AMX 30 B?

stable zealot
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@woven stone yep

tulip sail
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Or the rocket launcher from the stumtiger

dark socket
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You search up WarHammer 40k Predator and you can find it

woven stone
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@stable zealot I s it going to be in the game soon?

keen mantle
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the Vindicator is however too affected by the stylizing of the source material to tell what it is, but it would make sense as an assault gun

stable zealot
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Encountered it ib my first battle with BC-25 T

fallow shoal
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More of an anti infantry as opposed to anti tank

stable zealot
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Idk @woven stone

dark socket
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Vindicator literally exist as a real like model tho

keen mantle
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just a nice big gun to completely wreck a concrete bunker, and a nice scoop to plow through the rubble

tulip sail
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Yeah that's true and I'm not sure about the bulldozer shield going and scraping the ground being a good idea though

fallow shoal
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Wasent the brumbaar used for the same reason, putting big holes in walls and bunkers?

tulip sail
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Yup

dark socket
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Go search up Warhammer Vindicator and you find the model of it

tulip sail
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And storm tiger and churchill arv

keen mantle
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It's Warhammer, everything is over the top and ridiculous, but all the tank designs in Warhammer make decent sense

tulip sail
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Yeah at least there pluasible

fallow shoal
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What about centurion avre?

keen mantle
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That's a real thing though

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I would love the Centurion AVRE though give it to me

tulip sail
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@fallow shoal yes and I didnt mention it bc its post war and I'm a ww2 nut

dark socket
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yeah, Vindicator's gun have vent holes around it's barrel due to the gasses and such after firing

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which was a real thing with the Strumtiger

tulip sail
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Yup but awful muzzle flash

keen mantle
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Anyways you know it's bad when Warhammer's tanks make more sense than Wargaming's tanks

fallow shoal
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Imagine a sturmtiger with like a 60 sec reload and a 300mm gun lol

keen mantle
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380mm*

dark socket
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if it misses it's dead

tulip sail
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@keen mantle oof the truth has been spoken and @dark socket not if it stays with its infantry and other tanks

fallow shoal
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Well the blast radius would hit something lol

keen mantle
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oof

tulip sail
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And its target would be a hard miss since its targets are stationary and close

keen mantle
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It's also pretty sad when the Dracula is one of the less stupid made up tanks

dark socket
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I don't think we talken about real life, like, if the Strumtiger was in the game

tulip sail
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I was

fallow shoal
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Who wins group of tanks, one phat man

keen mantle
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group of tanks

tulip sail
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The fat man

fallow shoal
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Lol someone cought it

tulip sail
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Like I said I'm a ww2 nut you cant slip a ref by me

dark socket
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when did you say that

tulip sail
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At 16:38

keen mantle
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Depends on the group of tanks and what you mean by group

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eventually you just have so many tanks that the blast radius won't be large enough to get all of them

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which is why I said a group of tanks

tulip sail
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Hmm that is true

fallow shoal
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But assuming u arent in a 1v7 and if u get atleast 2 or 3 in the radius. Thats a lot of damage.

keen mantle
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but considering that the fat man is a rather weak nuclear bomb and the map is 500x500m as it normally is, if the bomb goes off in one spawn, most higher tier Russian vehicles have internal lining to block radiation, and if they're in the other spawn they will likely survive

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including the crew

merry grove
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The sturmtiger in wotb🤔 🤔
Dont we have enough derp?! 😂

keen mantle
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hypothetical, of course

tulip sail
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but historically realistic derp

keen mantle
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Churchill AVRE, 290mm mortar and it has a turret

merry grove
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Ok then its goodbye any tanky in range

tulip sail
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Actually yes please for the arve

fallow shoal
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Lol the type 4 ho ro is just adorable

tulip sail
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It is

fallow shoal
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Its cute and packs a 15cm derp gun lol

tulip sail
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Cute till your an allie