i sold it because it is horrible
#vehicles-discussion
half wyvern
half wyvern
amx 13 75 is like playing a tier 5 against tier 8's your shooting marshmallows that do little damage, have long reloads, and small penetration
amx 12 t and elc bis were wonderful, but amx 13 75 is just a let down
dark grotto
This is the back. It’s green for just about every other tier 7
half wyvern
when are you gonna get to the back of that
dark grotto
Front.
ancient hatch
@dark grotto show us in the game stats not in the site
half wyvern
before you do, your gonna get hit and killed by a he shell no problem with 13 75
dark grotto
When every other tank goes twice as fast?
ancient hatch
cuz gmae physics wont apply in websites
shadow stream
Does VK need to move a lot and its rotating speed is good for its size
ancient hatch
show us rock hard ig proof and not that scrappy data from website
shadow stream
Yeah but in game you wont see that thing in right angle
ancient hatch
@BootlegTampico hah why would i send any money to scrub liek u
tranquil maple
Это ПРОСТО НЕЧТО
dark grotto
Because you want rock hard proof, besides numbers and a physics sim.
If not, then you can go cry in the corner.
ancient hatch
nah im not a such small baby
dark grotto
Except about the VKP
shadow stream
Are you a VK player?
dark grotto
Nerfffff I can’t pen the cupolaaaaa armor tooo strongggg
I’ve played it. Probably worst T8 heavy I’ve tried
shadow stream
Then you are an complite noob xD
dark grotto
Eeeehhhh. Except for Tiger 2.
regal zealot
My experience with Vk: Hard to hide that lower plate without cover. Lower plate is butter for heavies.
Other than that, it’s a fine little machine
dark grotto
It’s very team dependent to protect you from flankers, and it can’t carry because of the poor damage output and poor mobility,
Tiger 2 only has the gun going for it, and the gun isn’t that outstanding
shadow stream
Like I siad if they cant pen you with ese even from sides you can carry even with bad dmg/min
dark grotto
Yup. The armor is idiot proof. Idiots can’t pen it
regal zealot
Tiger II is powercreeped by Lowe; it’s better in most ways.
dark grotto
Lowe is one of the best heavies.
shadow stream
Lowe is trash
dark grotto
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What’s your WR bud?
shadow stream
Its easy to pen
regal zealot
Very heavy, decent at sidescraping, accurate af gun.
dark grotto
Top notch penetration and solid dpm
regal zealot
But I miss a lot of my shots due to people getting into cover before I get to shoot...
dark grotto
Lowe shooting at VK from 200m away.
regal zealot
I for some reason struggled with the Vk cupola. Keeps on bouncing off the sides of the cupola. Might be just me.
fickle moss
ooo i didnt realise u can dmg the vk from its tracks wen facing upwards :3
dark grotto
Not reliable. LFP or sides are way better
fickle moss
ah...
dark grotto
Tracks are a hard shot. Don’t ever shoot through the tracks on the side. Will absolutely bounce
spark basin
its is series side armor levels of troll
fickle moss
nice and #screenshots post it there @shadow stream
frigid compass
nice 25k
half wyvern
i dont think its op
shadow stream
xD
half wyvern
is-3 vs vk 100.01 p
shadow stream
"Balanced"
fickle moss
russian biased peeps: nerf the vk XD
dark grotto
Stock gun against a smart player. No different than side scraping or going hulldown in a T29
Not for you maybe 😃 but I wasn’t referring specifically to the T29 for side scraping
shadow stream
oh I read that wrong or did I?
woeful dagger
It's a very ambiguous statement
echo shale
The problem with the vk 100 is that the “weak” points aren’t even weak.
shadow stream
you cant call it and weak point its just a bit less armor
dark grotto
Ok, nerf the sides and lfp by 30mm, and the cupola by 15. Give it a half extra shot per minute and IS3 dispersion
half wyvern
oh cmon, trying to master kv-2
shadow stream
its easy to get KV-2 first class but mastery ....
shadow stream
gg
fickle moss
facepalm my goodness....
half wyvern
wanna watch it?
languid stump
Lets talk about this t7 car nerf
fickle moss
nope gonna say anything
u can salt all u want abt it but unless wg feels it needs to be rebuffed it will stay nerfed
languid stump
Its so bad, they removed all its damage and its pen is bad.
fickle moss
its called eliminating sealclubbing
spark basin
you cant sealclub with a t7 car
languid stump
I had gotten it for free but its now worth more is gold
fickle moss
u want it rebuffed sure... reintroduce sealclubbing n all tht
@spark basin idk man wg somehow considers T7 car as one
spark basin
wg is smoking something then
languid stump
Im ok with them nerfing it but 4-5 damage?
fickle moss
anyway the t7 car has a huge magazine ur spraying shells and all tht... not in line with how u play at high iers
they want new players to get accustomed to the higher tiers
languid stump
If they wanted to nerf it they could change the mag not the pen and dmg
fickle moss
having tanks tht have a butt load of magazine isnt the way to do so
@languid stump if they did tht they shud have kept it as a premium tank
but they didnt
languid stump
Idc that they changed what its classified as
Mastery for its now going to be 50dmg
fickle moss
well they are elongating the battles more so tht it doesnt become a case of a short wipeout at low tiers
languid stump
Then they should be increasing reload times not making peashooters
fickle moss
bruh elongating battle tht means tanks last longer
languid stump
Im just saying I got a lvl 3 mastery with 12 damage
solid gate
U’re VK.100 doesn’t make matter vs the GLORIOUS OP E50
fickle moss
tht means they need to be hit more times
@solid gate isnt tht comparing a tier 8 with a tier 9 -.- u shud be comparing with the mauschen in tht case
solid gate
@fickle moss mmmmh u wright
solid gate
is T95 the nimble chieftain better than Mk 6?
tulip edge
no light vic platoons
solid gate
What is the fastest tech tree tank?
royal charm
@tulip edge how about both
void basin
I think it’s the Ru 251
torpid charm
That’s the fastest top speed at 82 km/h, but not the fastest to get to it’s top speed
void basin
I don’t know but in my opinion it is the Maus: gets to 20km/h and just stays there
tulip edge
that question can be interpreted in so many ways
kind bluff
uncut trench
@maiden dagger lol
maiden dagger
Nvm figured it out back at 60% wr with it now. Peasants.
vocal dawn
So I got tired of being spotted before I made it 200 meters in the mauschen, I put a camo net on it, now I’m the invisible mauschen
marble hazel
Lol
solid gate
@vocal dawn in which universe it is posssible to make mauschen invisible? 😂
vocal dawn
The first 10 seconds of the battle on repeat
viral venture
keen mantle
I don't even want the barn of doom, I just want the tanks that lead up to it
obsidian summit
sage onyx
T34-1 one of the best t7 tanks of all time change my mind
keen mantle
No Dankenstein is
keen mantle
I'm sorry but both of those are nothing compared to Thomas the Tank Engine
winter marten
*Dank
true socket
does anyone have mauschen? the 340 mm lower side armor looks hella troll
north bloom
when people cant spot your fat pz.sfl
narrow hedge
I gave up on my IS3, I couldn't effectively angle the front plate and it got annoying
So I went back to the IS. I could effectively front line it, even with it's derp gun and reload
frigid compass
@narrow hedge its made so the front directly faces the enemy
because of the pike nose
rustic oar
Who got VK 100.01 P?
solid gate
I want to get it soon but I'm grinding other lines first
real crystal
I don’t know If I should sell it or not.
I originally had it because a KV-2 only goes to it.
keen mantle
I kept mine it's still a beast, the only downside is the utterly horrible traverse it has
gray flume
^^ this
brittle willow
i dont know who is dev but i would really like it if a tank like the Chieftain mk5 could be added into the game
zinc marlin
I want Loza's M4
brittle willow
it woyld be similar to the chieftain mk6 and could come off the centurion7/1 and be a med with the fv202
void basin
Centurion Action X
true socket
chieftain mk6 is prolly the tank i want most in the game... had to settle for the chieftain though
keen mantle
ChiefT95 is decent
true socket
yea just wish it could have either higher alpha or a smaller cupola
keen mantle
I mean those are literally the only downsides of the tank
true socket
an alpha of like 300-400 with same overall dpm, with the same cupola, or a smaller cupola with same dpm
keen mantle
both sound op asf lol
true socket
nah, the lower hull and other armor would still remain very weak, as well as the pen
keen mantle
Hull armor is very troll thanks to the upper plate
true socket
it would just make it a t8 mk6
300-400 alpha instead of 400-500 and slower reload
with a bigger cupola than the mk6 ofc
keen mantle
if I mixed up some tanks I could make a tier 8 Mk 6 lol
true socket
but yea, i think the mk6 is the coolest looking tank in the game rn
keen mantle
Meh
true socket
besides the fact that its a beastly tank
keen mantle
Shame WG had to actually bloody sell them for anyone to get
true socket
wait, so mk6 was never grindable?
keen mantle
It was in crates, then available for 24000 gold
true socket
ah. yea, no way in hell im spending 24k gold for that, even if it was guaranteed 100% i'd get it
keen mantle
better price than 28k gold for a 65% chance to get a tier 7 premium
true socket
50 is the max i'd ever consider, and even thats pushing it. I'd only do that if i had 50 stored up from google play surveys.
lol yea that's so stupid. 130 bucks for 50 crates right?
keen mantle
lol how you getting those
true socket
im not, rn. I think you need location on and to drive around a lot to get them
keen mantle
I can't get any bloody surveys at all other than one a month for 40 cents each
true socket
my dad has like $85 google play from surveys somehow. I've got 3 bucks
but yea, same. I only get like 1 a month
gray flume
give it a 100mm gun
real crystal
No, 152 mm gun.
celest oak
How to play T30?
void basin
Why
exotic spire
I play on my galaxy note 9 phone, and I can't sell my blue tanks, as there is no sell button...help please.
torpid charm
There’s a maximum you can sell per day, did you reach it? @exotic spire
vocal dawn
5 is the limit
true socket
resets at 6 pm central
vocal dawn
Best damage I’ve had in this tank
true socket
gg
regal zealot
3.2k, but only 861 base exp...
Hmm 🤔
prime hull
when people say your tank did not get nerfed but your top speed is 10 kph slower
vocal dawn
@regal zealot it was on copperfield, me and a bulldog flanked and killed the other flankers, then we sniped from the side
Chaffe* not bulldog, my bad
livid charm
Almost all Russian Meds tech tree
BT-5
BT-7
BT-7M
T-50
T-34-76 1940
T-34-76 1941
T-34-76 1942
T-34E (STZ)
T-34E
T-34-57
T-34-57 1943
T-34-85 (D-5T)
T-34-85
T-34-85E
T-34-100
T-44
T-44-100
T-44-122
T-54 1947
T-54 1949
T-54 1951
IT-1
T-55A
T-62
T-62M-1
T-64A 1971
T-64B 1984
T-80B
And I'm getting banned
little imp
What was the Russian newest tank? It’s like 2x bigger than the Abrams
livid charm
Cause probably they will think it's spam
static tangle
Lol
exotic spire
@torpid charm no...haven't sold anything yet since 5.5
livid charm
I probably gave a list of tanks to go talking about
What country tank line should I do next?
little imp
The only thing I know is that U.S and the Russians are just upgrading their tanks nowadays
livid charm
US says that M1A3 Abrams will come out in 2019
little imp
Yep and I can’t wait to see it
livid charm
Me too
keen mantle
I wonder if they're touching the gun
narrow dove
is it just me or is it easy to get an ace mastery on the T150 ???
im only puming out 2k dmg per battle
keen mantle
idk maybe now that it's a week after 5.5 people sold their T-150s I guess?
inland osprey
Not me yet
Heh heh
narrow dove
.-.
keen mantle
I kept mine too
narrow dove
its one more day till its been a week
inland osprey
Imma keep it for ace missions
narrow dove
gud idea
inland osprey
Or maybe nobody uses it anyway
inland osprey
It turns like a dime stuck in concrete
narrow dove
but its manageable
half wyvern
why does t-54 have golden bullet tracers
inland osprey
HEAT or HE probably
karmic basin
Heat
half wyvern
recently getting good games with amx 13 75 again
now the bad 2.5 sec shell reload is gone, that ruined tank before
amx 13 75=flank god
keen mantle
13 75 is a trash tank, just a bigger 12t moved up a tier
keen mantle
yeah 12t gets almost as much health, better gun handling, same mobility, smaller profile, both have no armor, and the 13 75 only gets a better reload
half wyvern
amx 13 75 is still a great tank
and the speed
up to 60 traverse speed, how many km/h is that
dark grotto
It’s outclassed compared to other lights. Bulldog is much faster, 2 degrees more gun depression, better pen and dpm.
half wyvern
but the playstyle makes amx 13 75 unique
and more preferrable, you can keep opponents tracked for 15 seconds
dark grotto
The bulldog has the same intraclip reload and a shorter interclip
half wyvern
but is bulldog as small as amx?
it can be fully concealed with really low down cover and dead tanks very well because of its size
keen mantle
doesn't change the fact you're driving a glorified 12t
dark grotto
Lol, the size really compensated for the DPM, pen, depression and massive mobility differences
half wyvern
what mobility differences
keen mantle
ancient hatch
👌
half wyvern
that is not massive speed difference
10km/h
amx 13 75 makes you a smaller target, and amx 13 75 has possible ricochet spots, an IS sometimes bounces off of you
but can you even ricochet off a bulldog?
bulldog is food for the enemy heavies
keen mantle
power to weight
keen mantle
dude it only goes 10 kph faster but it gets to 72 kph almost twice as fast as the 13 75 gets to 62
look at the effective power to weight ratios
and traverse
you actually don't know how the game works
half wyvern
amx 13 75 is better
pine mason
As a person who plays only lights and meds I think bulldog is better
half wyvern
its more fun
pine mason
True but with bulldog you do some stuff that,are impossible with amx
keen mantle
like mobility that's just way better in every way
and gun depression and elevation angles you don't need to constantly fight
plus usable penetration
Well not that the 13 75's penetration is super bad but still
pine mason
And it is possible to avoid an HE to the face from a KV2
half wyvern
this beauty, atleast 1-2k damage a game
keen mantle
now do the bulldog which is larger but otherwise has better everything
half wyvern
not armour
keen mantle
Doesn't matter when you're not being hit
half wyvern
you will be in some cases
keen mantle
Rarely
half wyvern
i wouldnt say so
if your trying to save your tyeam, a few hits will land
but not below 50% hp
keen mantle
I mean armor doesn't matter I mostly don't bother with shooting HE at lights these days because I always hit tracks so in practice it's basically the same armor as mediums
Also Type 62 bae lol
the real small tank
half wyvern
a he cant penetrate an amx
it will do like 300 splash but you rarely would pen it unless ontop of it or on side or back
torpid charm
I’d say the bulldog is better than the 13 75 any day
half wyvern
but amx 13 75 get croissant as provision
keen mantle
but Coke
half wyvern
hot chocolate and croissant, but the best one is the japs, they get rice
atleast my friend with jap tech tree said they do
solar igloo
When is light tank cammo going to be fixed on amx 13-57?
spiral isle
5.6
spiral isle
What about chinese tanks? If you are asking about the new Chinese TD line, i dont know when they are coming out...
ancient hatch
@half wyvern dud bulldog has the mobility advantage, acceleration its key actor in fight
spiral isle
Heavies, yes... the 113 is just a faster and more Dpm is7
The armor is arguably worse, and the alpha is less, so its worse for trading and if thats your playstyle then maybe just stick with an is7, but the 113 is a monster and I recommend it. The grind is a little rough but worth
solid gate
Ehh is2
keen mantle
First of all you can angle the 113 but not the IS-7
Second the 113 is a decent chunk faster in a straight line
Third the 113's only balancing factor is the slow traverse
keen mantle
It's not OP, thanks to that traverse
spiral isle
400 alpha < 460 on the is7, but shoots much faster, better for tracking, worse for trading
keen mantle
if it had good traverse then it'd be OP
autumn beacon
113 is great. It goes the same speed as an is7, far better dpm. Frontal armor is easier to angle but weaker overall. And can agree the traverse is really the only downside to this tank. It does have 2 cupolas but they aren't easy to hit from midrange.
keen mantle
would surely be broken if not for that traverse too
autumn beacon
That's why it's there
narrow dove
I’m sorry WG but this doesn’t make sense, when I was In game while playing the Chaffee , i could literally see an Easy8 on the right of my screen going uphill faster than me even though I was on somewhat flat ground ???? The stats show that the Chaffee is faster but in battle the easy 8 is
mental knoll
Because science
spiral isle
E8 has worse top speed but better power to weight which means it can get to its top speed much faster.
solid gate
Look into the ground resistance for the two tanks in question.
spiral isle
lol, seal clubbing reasons I guess
lean laurel
Well im glad they removed that annoying tier IV French AMX tank that looks like a duck with really strong armour
fickle moss
@narrow dove because 1.power to weight ratio 2. terrain resistance 3. u didnt put provision
woeful dagger
@lean laurel You'll probs still see a lot of ducks and other removed tanks, cuz a bunch of people (myself included) bought their favorite low-tiers that were removed.
solid gate
Is the french m4 premium any goodM
spiral isle
The heavy or the m4 med?
spiral isle
The med is just a tier 5 medium with a tier 9 gun. Its ok, but I wouldn't recommend, the heavy is amazing... its a better tiger 2 in every way. I would definitely recommend that one.
The m4 449, is worth... the m4 rev is not worth imo
solid gate
@spiral isle tier 8
spiral isle
Yes theres is a premium french M4 medium and a heavy
I wanted to know if you meant the med or the heavy
woeful dagger
The m4 Rev should be a tier 6 or 7, not 8
solid gate
Thqnks alot for info
regal zealot
@woeful dagger the Ravioli at tier VII or VI, with that alpha? You’re joking, right?
It’s a glass cannon with very good gun depression. Play it as a support medium or as a turreted TD.
spiral isle
Well if it went down to tier 7 it could be very balanced by simply lowering the Hp to 1000 and making the reload 12 seconds for 310 alpha instead of whatever it is, 8.5 or 9.... but i actually like it at tier 8
regal zealot
It’s quite a nice tank for it’s role.
If put at tier VII, it would out-alpha and out-pen the T-34-1, which is renowned for its alpha at the DPM tier. Putting the Ravioli at tier VII will make the T-34-1 not that unique due to the less dmg per shot. The Ravioli is also performing quite well in PC at tier VIII. Granted, it has tier X 105mm alpha dmg of 390.
On Blitz, it’s only tier VIII 105mm alpha dmg of 310, instead of 350 of tier IXs and Xs
twilit quest
whcih is the best tier 8 premium tank?
shall I buy SuperPershing or t-43-3 or wait for something better?
inland osprey
Uh you might want to wait, unless you're very sure which tank is suitable for you
And it is T-34-3, there's no T-43-3
clear garden
Lowe is good ??
inland osprey
If you can resist the urge to rush forward and only poking your turret most of the time, then yes, it is quite good
twilit quest
@inland osprey Type 59 or superpershing?
inland osprey
I would prefer the type
But I'm not saying super Pershing is inferior
twilit quest
argghhh, I dunno which tank should I get... I have 10k gold after 5.5 update
brisk orbit
t-34-85 or MT-25?
twilit quest
t34-85
inland osprey
@brisk orbit do you like very fast tanks with small guns or moderately-fast tanks with good guns?
brisk orbit
the latter
twilit quest
t34-85 is op, get it
inland osprey
Okay then get the T-34/85
twilit quest
does it worth making a vehicle enriched?
inland osprey
@twilit quest you might want to know the vehicle's credit coefficient to get the most out of the enrichment
twilit quest
I want a permanent enrichment on stug 3 g which costs 3000 gold
so shall I take superpershing and enrich that shit?
inland osprey
I don't know
Up to you man, but make sure you frequently use the enriched tank, or it would just be a waste
twilit quest
I mean the permanent enrichment not the temporary one
spiral isle
Lmao, enrichment is an awful idea for 99% of tanks
twilit quest
ok
spiral isle
Just buy a premium instead... if it costs, lets say... x amount of gold to enrich a tank... you could probably buy a same tier prem for that amount and now you have 2 tanks instead of 1 and left over gold
twilit quest
I will not enrich anything as I prefer playing tier 7+ so no enrichment I can buy an su100y instead
inland osprey
I meant both enrichments
If you permanently enrich a tank but let it sit in the garage gathering dust, its still a waste
twilit quest
correct...
do u guys have access to what is WG going to put in store for sale?
ok, probably not...
dusky stone
we do not comment on future sales of tanks, whether they are true or not. Follow official news and announcements
solid gate
@twilit quest. You can safely assume that everything that can be sold will be sold at some point, unless for some reason it isn't.
solid gate
So I have a bit of a problem, a few weeks ago I tried to restore my Type 62 (don’t know why I sold it) by sending a ticket to WG. I guess I forgot to send the ticker from the account (my wg account and game account were different then) that it was in, so it got rejected. I created a new WG account linked to the game account, Genghis_K_meow and tried to restore it. However the player support shows no premium vehicle restoration so I’m afraid I’ll have to wait another year to get it back. Any ideas
I have the screenshots and credits as well to buy it back
Why this tank has got only 10mm armor????
Light
rare pike
Because it s a food for kv 2
lean laurel
Blowing up a SPIC with HE feels good
narrow dove
@fickle moss I put the top fuel provisions and the box of coke and the Chaffee has better HP/T
patent needle
Hi, I have a question about my tanks, I should get Obj-140 OR T-62A?
little hawk
Lowe it is good tank ?,i look for buy my first premiun tank
solid gate
@little hawk very good. Good armour, good gun, good credit maker
buoyant flax
guys, what is the best tier 8 premium tank ?
i want to spend my gold, but i dont know
spiral isle
Do u want a heavy, med, td... what?
spiral isle
Lights is Blackdog
meds is type 59
heavies is t34 or lowe
Tds is Wz120
buoyant flax
is wz 120 ft really have tier 10 gun ?
spiral isle
Yes, most tier 8 tds do
wintry shell
but WZ has troll armor and good mobility
spiral isle
👌
wintry shell
othere t8s dont have that
glacial bough
Get out, the mod one is superior over all of them
spiral isle
The 59 also makes more credits, 170 cred for the mod, 180% cred coeff for the 59
59 is superior... real talk
iron blade
What to expect of the tier 5 leopard?
spark basin
nerfed
iron blade
I just researched it
vast belfry
@iron blade Good magazine damage and little armour. Bad pen but good mobility.
solid gate
@iron blade quickly grind it to the VK.28.01
iron blade
Ok things that are expected of an LT
Tho the pen
Also i am today years old when i found out that the RU251 only has one gun?
ancient hatch
bruh
vast belfry
That RU251 gun is quite good. It has good DPM for a light tank and HEP for HE. Basically a HE shell with higher pen.
ancient hatch
its a buttsex dispencer @vast belfry
vast belfry
Maybe. 🙃
Gun depression on the RU251 is a little weird. It goes to -10 degrees but only over the sides. Over the front is like -5.
Take note of that.
spark basin
bad word 😡
ancient hatch
NEIN
keen mantle
Are you sure it's just a mod and not cheating
They probably had a cheat that shows where things get knocked down or just got a really lucky blind shot
someone who's bored
Yeah no they're just lucky then
I mean they're probably just lucky
keen mantle
Ferdinand is hawt garbage get the JP2
solid gate
Aw man what happened?
tardy gyro
jpanther is faster and better
solid gate
My poor poor elephant
tardy gyro
ferdinand used to have 1400 hp
keen mantle
JP 2 has more mobility, has an actual good superstructure so you can hull down, has more dpm etc etc
solid gate
Dam what the hell. Why the nerfs!?
Ok JP2 it is
If the old Ferdinand was back which you still recommend the JP2?
dark grotto
Ugh. 1375 is not going to be a fun grind. Needs some buff for sure
It’s like a bulldog, but worse in every way
near forge
The AMX 13 75? Decent tank if you know how to play it.
dark grotto
I know how, doesn’t mean it’s competitive.
onyx coral
I am still stuck on my 13 75
dark grotto
Lower pen, worse mobility, less gun depression, worse accuracy.
onyx coral
I am stuck on all of the french tanks at tier 8/9
Worse than that time I grinded the ferdinand
cosmic sandal
guys just wondering is the tier 10 batchat as fast as tier 9 one?
near forge
Personally I play the AMX 13 75 like a medium spotter. I rush forward and cover hop, peek and shoot, then reload while in cover.
dark grotto
Faster
onyx coral
@dark grotto Looks like you need to charge
cosmic sandal
@dark grotto blitz stars... is that like for comparing tanks?
dark grotto
And checking stats yeah
cosmic sandal
oh ok thanks
dark grotto
That’s dandy @near forge , but the 1375 is still outclassed by every 3x autoloading light in its tier
near forge
@dark grotto I understand, but I carried my team in the AMX 13 75 against all odds
dark grotto
Doesn’t mean it’s as good as the bulldog
cosmic sandal
its smaller and good for ambushes
but it depends on the players playstyle.... i prefer the french lights
dark grotto
Lower pen, worse mobility, less gun depression, worse accuracy.
cosmic sandal
just for me tho, size difference ---- bulldog is stil fun tho
dark grotto
Positives-it’s smaller
cosmic sandal
yes and thats why i really like it
like i prefer small little lights with good burst or DPM
near forge
Same. I loved the AMX 12 t before the nerf ;-;
And the BIS will always be my little go-cart o' death ^-^
cosmic sandal
yes the BIS is still mine too lol
dark grotto
AMX 12t is the same thing as the 1375 a tier lower
cosmic sandal
yeah it is
dark grotto
??🤷♂️?.
haughty void
13 75 looks cooler 😛 and it is slightly better
I got a 60% wr in it, one of my favo tanks. Now I have the Batchat 25t :-))
echo shale
and we all care
dark grotto
How about you stop playing it...
near forge
@haughty void I like when you hang back a bit after spotting and snipe from second line. I can easily get 2k damage per battle
haughty void
Nice
near forge
And my best game I did 1000+K dmg to a KV-4, and had almost 3K overall dmg for the battle
solid gate
I never use the T-25, should I sell it? It'll give me 400k of credits.
@solid gate go ahead then
dark grotto
What’s your avg? I’m betting it isn’t 2k
solid gate
Thanks
near forge
@dark grotto Was that at me?
solid gate
I just got the vk 100p it is very very good
dark grotto
Yeah.
solid gate
So many bounces
I heard the mauschen is even better cant wait
But i need 163 k thats alot
near forge
739 dmg per battle average, but that was cause my doinking around at tier 3 and four killed my rates >_<
dark grotto
In the AMX
dark grotto
That’s less than 2 clips per game dude. You really think it’s fine?
inland osprey
Which AMX tho
near forge
It is when most of the time my team abandons me the second the enemy shows up, leaving me to fight solo against like a Lowe, KV-4, IS-6, and a Commet while they get murdered by a camping ISU-some random number
@inland osprey AMX 13 75
inland osprey
Oh that's sad
near forge
At least I try ;-;
and then fail
dark grotto
It doesn’t matter why, only that it is.
near forge
Well what is your dpb @dark grotto
dark grotto
1458
near forge
Kool. Now if you excuse me, I'm going to stare at the keyboard contemplating my existance and how I should uninstall the game......
solid gate
T34 or is6
sinful trellis
Hey WarGaming, could you possibly buff the STA-1 just a tad
Instead of adding more german heavies
solid gate
Damn it someone answer my question
latent moth
sta needs more engine power
sinful trellis
Thanks for your support friend
latent moth
uour welcome
sinful trellis
STA-1 > T34 or IS-6
latent moth
*your
sinful trellis
I’m just sick of every single game being filled with Russian tanks
solid gate
Time for me to go to Reddit
burnt monolith
👍
sinful trellis
I wonder, will they ever add Japanese heavies?
latent moth
jap heavies are for noobs
sinful trellis
Or for people who enjoy ridiculously oversized vehicles
That’s why I got the Maus, lol. I don’t really like heavies, but dang, Maus is t h i c c
near forge
The Jap heavies are just not suited for this game. The reason being is they are just too overpowered, even with the lesser guns they would have to have heath that coresponds with their size, making them TANKS of tanks. Image four of those on a team....the health would allow them to take large hits and be cover for their team IF they die.
And this is just my observations from other people arguing this issue on this server before.
sinful trellis
Ya, I know.. I just love my stupidly big tanks
torpid charm
The Japanese heavies could be added, but just need heavy balancing. Balancing that completely changes the tank, as they have done before with the french TDs. The autoloader is what made those tanks special on PC, but here on Blitz they’re just another line of normal TDs with somewhat different stats to their counterparts. The Japanese heavies would require a change like this alongside nerfs to other stats.
rare pike
All say the type 5 heavy will broke the game but will be like maus with few weak spots in front and weak in rear , a batchat can go arround them and kill them very easy soo ....
frail flume
Leopard is now trash fix it war gaming it one of the lowest dpm now
solid gate
@north bloom 300 actually
north bloom
jesus
solid gate
<@&510077723264286720> does anyone know how to best play the SU-100Y. I have 550+ battles in it, but still no ace
I aced it but it was blind luck. I normally suck in TD's so I'll let someone else answer this one.
frosty wing
Su100y is a hard one to ace lol
solid gate
It has OP premium rounds though
tight fulcrum
Try to support your team and snipe from behind.
If you won't get spotted you can make a lot of damage.
solid gate
Ohhhh. Makes sense. That might be the reason I get derped often
warm brook
Isn't 100Y troll and fun?
median oak
onyx coral
Got one in a container yesterday
torpid lagoon
will we ever get the StuG IV in Blitz just like the T28 HTC
half wyvern
su-85b has the worst accuracy ive ever seen on a tank
fired 6 shots with reticle all at the enemy, shell manages to somehow miss all 6 times
like are you actually serious
dark grotto
RNG is rough
north bloom
i never aced in my life
half wyvern
someone needs to nerf su-122-44
good frontal armour, 400 damage per shot and apparentally 5 sec reload according to my matches against it, wtf wg
if you have su-122-44 you win every game its so unfair
turns so fast, moves really fast so you cant flank it
keen mantle
wait till you play against WZ-120-1 FTs tho
half wyvern
there is no negatives
true socket
the wz is basically a faster, ridiculously armored, mobile su 122 44 but with worse dpm
woeful dagger
"Chink"?
true socket
i havent faced a 122 yet, but ive seen a ton of 120's and every time their armor trolls. it could have no red whatseover and it'll still bounce my 250 mm pen shells
woeful dagger
Get yo rascist butt outta here
keen mantle
well not that broken, but broken for something as fast as a medium tank, as small as an E 25, has the dpm of a comet, and the penetration of a tier 10 medium
true socket
racist*
keen mantle
Also am of Chinese descent so h a
true socket
bet u would be too
livid charm
Hi
woeful dagger
That's like an African American calling someone the N word, it's no less racist just because you are one of them.
keen mantle
Actually I don't think anyone actually gets offended by it tho
true socket
technically it is fine for black people to call each other the n word
keen mantle
People only say the n word is offensive to black people then no black people are actually offended by it, meaning the people claiming that it's offensive are the racist ones because they think black people are easily offended.
true socket
black people only get offended if non black people call them it
because then it takes on a different meaning
half wyvern
this game is so damn annoying, lost 5 in a row to this retarded matchmaking
how is that fair in any way vs an amx 13 75
keen mantle
it's not, you're in a trash tank
true socket
what tank were you
half wyvern
amx 13 75 is good
true socket
then hows it retarded mm
keen mantle
not compared to the bulldog it isn't
half wyvern
just today i had really bad matchmaking
true socket
carry harder
keen mantle
the only constant in your matches is you
half wyvern
i prefer it to bulldog, its much smaller target
keen mantle
and pays for it with literally every other stat
true socket
at t7 the only tank of relevance is the tiger p, for nothing stands even remotely close to it
except maybe the black prince, which i havent tried but have heard very good things about
half wyvern
wtf happened to this game, everyone is just rushing our spawn and 5 people gang up on me
lost within 2 minutes of game due to whole enemy team rushing, wth changed in 1 day, why is everyone rushing so much
hollow relic
Is the IS 7 good?
true socket
is4 better
admittedly its been a while since i played the is7, and was garbo in it, but didnt really like pike nose. makes it hard to bounce shots
is4 strong armor all around
is4 can sidescrape too, where is7 can't
true socket
first off, the is7 is not better. thats why is4's were used and not is7's in twister. and second, the is7's frontal armor is terrible when angled
the side hull has 100mm on lower half whereas the is4 has 160 everywhere on side, and the front nose is 230 mm when angled
woeful dagger
IS-7's sides are freaking microscopic, of course it can sidescrape. Most anything with some armor can sidescrape (SPIC doesn't count as armored)
true socket
we're talking well
it is so easy to pen the pike nose when people sidescrape in it, because they always expose some
half wyvern
even though amx dropped my win rate, i always have win rate digger on my side
true socket
what?
half wyvern
grave digger
true socket
ah
half wyvern
dont quite understand how is-6 penetrated me at the front, apart from that, ez win
true socket
lower hull
half wyvern
he shot at upper somewhere
half wyvern
considerign the speed and dispersion, thats not quite likely to hit, what a lucky guy
half wyvern
there was a wallet warrior with skorpion on enemy team, i noticed him at last second and turned to the left and managed to just bounce off
true socket
those are fun to he in vk 100
half wyvern
sprint, i got a question
true socket
vk's massive ass gun does like 700 he damage and almost always does fire damage
half wyvern
what tech tree should i go with, su-85b to obj 268, vk 30.01p to vk 100.01p and then maus, or stug to grille
i mean continue on with
true socket
I can't really be the one to answer that, as I havent played antitanks. However, i can say the vk line has been fun so far
half wyvern
i have some other ones like is-3 to is-7 or kv-2 to is-4 but i dont like or want is-4
true socket
i heard the obj268 is good, and the maus obviously is, so i'd prolly choose between those
half wyvern
and is-3 although is nice to play with, i dont really want to play with much, since tier 8 grind is real
55k just for gun
half wyvern
somehow a amx 30 1er prototype managed to penetrate me twice while reverse side scraping in is-3 which is ment to be unpenetrable
true socket
115k exp in guns you have to get at t8 for the 268 line
you probably exposed a bit of rear hull
half wyvern
im only going for it because i like the sound the gun makes on su-152 and isu-152, dont know if rest sound the same
i looked at it and my back was hidden, thats some voodoo magic
hit me for 400, 400 again and i was like ok wtf lets just run
half wyvern
world of tanks lied to me, i watched wg's video and maus couldnt penetrate is-3 like that
unique narwhal
Why is the t82 a collectors tank if it has the sucky derp gun mounted on it
true socket
theres also that other triangular spot though idk if tracks eats that. would be near impossible to hit anyways
30 mm if it doesnt
half wyvern
so reverse side scraping is useless in this game, nice
true socket
nah, only in is3 if they can hit that rear hull weakspot. i assume that 30 mm isn't possible
half wyvern
wait i was more angled than that pic
i was literally nearly alligned with him, closest to not showing back as possible
thats such a steep slope, how tf did he penetrate that
true socket
?? the flat part, not the angled part
half wyvern
you wouldnt even be able to see that, track wheels cover it up
unborn hamlet
Normally is-3 turret roof suppose to be a weakspot but wg removed it. Russian bias as usual.
true socket
i already said that. im saying the rear hull was likely what got penned. (in response to the tracks spot, not the turret roof)
if you get the reverse sidescrape absolutely perfect, so it covers the rear hull completely, the weakest spot on the side would be 246 mm. however, its very unlikely you got it absolutely perfect
more than likely, you either exposed that 70 mm rear part that sticks out, or else moving it but a few degrees more makes the angle slant on the side go from 246 to 200 mm
he could've also been at a slight angle to the building, rather than directly parallel to it, which could've also contributed to cutting the hull angle down
kind of like this
unborn hamlet
Reverse side scraping doesnt rewarding much in blitz. Sometimes fight over when you try to reverse your tank.
dark grotto
Please don't do grille line
half wyvern
why not
dark grotto
They're very difficult to play properly, and very punishing otherwise.
true socket
if you're good though, its a huge stat padder. i've seen tons of players with 2.7k+ avg damage in tanks like auf or rhm
thick wind
so i wang to get a new premium tank andthere is 2 choises for me personally. 1)lorraine40t. 2)skorpion. which one should i get?
woeful dagger
Lorraine if you like tanks that are like a cross between AMX 13 90 and AMX 50 B, Skorpion if you like the Grille 15 style of play
fervent dune
get the one that doesn't cost a kidney
cedar ridge
Can we have a premium kv-2 like on pc?
outer aurora
Isn't that the KV-2 menacing?
cedar ridge
No
chrome stirrup
Yeah kv2 menacing is just kv2 w\ paintjob called menacing
near forge
I'm tempted to get the Shrieking camo for my Sherman. I'm good enough in it to flaunt the camo, but is it worth the gold?
chrome stirrup
Ooh a fellow Sherman fan?
near forge
I was the M4A2E3 Jumbo before they nerfed it off the tree
chrome stirrup
Ah
near forge
Now I massacre in the E8, and love it.
cedar ridge
I still have my jumbo I’m there isn’t any camo for it
near forge
Shrieking is the legendary camo, and I am VERY wanting for it
cedar ridge
No it’s a collection tank now
chrome stirrup
Oh wow wish I had got it instead of easy8 Sherman
near forge
I have enough Gold to get the camo. The M4A3E8 Sherman plays like the Sherman Jumbo, except the OLD jumbo before they nerfed it to the stock turret and gun.....
chrome stirrup
When the spare parts were nixed I got a mil creds and bought a 8, my friend got a clan.
near forge
The Jumbo got such a heavy nerf there was no point in keeping it
chrome stirrup
Ah
cedar ridge
Not really it still is the same
near forge
BOI. The Jumbo was limited to just the stock turret and gun. It had no pen and no dmg.
chrome stirrup
But yeah about that clan... Is that fair? I got a tier 6 tank and my friend gets a clan
near forge
Well, is the clan active?
near forge
Well, I would say you both got a good deal
chrome stirrup
Hah yeah
cedar ridge
Mmmh the stuck turret has more armour and the gun has the same amount of pen and damage it only reloads slower
near forge
It played like crap is all I knew. I was used to the Sherman Jumbo before 5.5, so meh.
agile vault
do u think they will give the is2 1945 its 120mm front plate back
keen mantle
wdym it's always been like it is
solid gate
IS-3D is trash against a T54E1
edgy rover
I love my tiger 1 and the AMX might branch is good too but i do prefer my Centurion over the AMX
bright folio
I hate the fact that they nerfed my StuG III
dark grotto
JPanther was buffed!
bright folio
Yeah, but it was somewhat called for
You would not believe what adding about 1 sec to that reload did to the stug
dark grotto
And the engine power
bright folio
Engine seems fine
dark grotto
-30 hp.
bright folio
+10 hp
vast belfry
Top speed as well.
dark grotto
No it lost 30 horsepower
bright folio
Added 10 hitpoints
I could live with slightly fewer horsepower
But adding 20% to the reload is cruel
dark grotto
Massive traverse losses and slower acceleration.
bright folio
Not really
bright folio
That is really hard to read on pc
But I don't see much difference in mobility when in game
The gun nerf kills it though
keen mantle
how do I abuse gun depression, I mainly just go to the same spots and realize "huh I don't need to poke as far to shoot"
runic goblet
The Matilda is overpowered
torpid charm
@near forge the only turret I used on the jumbo was the stock turret anyways, why play an armored slower sherman if the turret is really easily penned
little imp
It ain’t overpowered when you have TDS of 85mm and 75mm
brisk orbit
best gun for T-34-85?
vague berry
uhh well wouldnt u pick the top gun?
merry grove
Just got the tiger 2 yesterday... Any tips and good tactics for grinding the stock???
zinc marlin
So is this gonna be the only legendary camo for teir 1?
crystal anchor
The Ha-Go isnt even good anymore they took all the fun away
hasty hill
on scale 1-10 how much worth your gold for a AMX 30 1er prot.?
what i see is something like Leopard PTA but muh smaller and nimble
keen mantle
Personally I won't buy the 30 1er but based on my experience with a clan mate's account it's more like an STB-1 @solid gate
red pewter
LoL
little imp
If you checked the name of the tank it’s different, it also comes with different variant of guns for the Chinese they have the 45K. And the Japanese they have the 3.7cm.
keen mantle
Chinese one gets a really high pen gun I believe
red pewter
Yes but the Name is the same!
indigo hollow
anyone knows how to play the bulldog?
it haz huge profile and the dmg of the gun sucks
keen mantle
I mean, at least it's not a 13 75
little imp
It’s fast, it’s a he target, it has a good 76mm do not underestimated it
crystal anchor
@keen mantlei like the 13 75 ;-;
little imp
It’s fast and has an autoloader but sucks imo. I’d rather have the bulldog
keen mantle
bulldog is bigger but otherwise better in every way
honestly if you like the 13 75 just fall down a tier to the 12t and play that
ancient hatch
meme tonk😂 👌
ancient hatch
i could never sell it
ancient hatch
welp
im back to 5 stars again
pine mason
How do you like m3lee
Meds are supposed to be fast and mobile
And m3 lee is the only non td without a turret
regal zealot
@near forge I’ve always played the Jumbo with the stock turret. It’s godly hulldown
ancient hatch
@pine mason
its more of complicated than u think tho,
i think its mobility its good and turning speed its actually fast
and dpm isnt bad either
only thing what lee lacks its armor
short raptor
Could WG please fix the gun model on the Firefly and every other 17 lber for that matter!?!? I’m a big fan of the tank and it breaks my heart that the gun is looking so puny
little imp
remixtank. I might’ve gotten more aces and more highest caliber medals than you and your 6K matcheS XD
mental knoll
@pine mason it's to complex for mind like yours to understand
merry grove
Any tips on using the tiger II??
tawdry sphinx
keen mantle
no
ancient hatch
@little imp atleast i have gotten moar blocked dmg even tho it doesnt show
@tawdry sphinx nope it already has decent HE and 12 sec reload, and it has op frontal armor
obsidian violet
Finally i sold them , the collector tanks and so far i made 15,359 gold but these tanks i'll keep
little imp
Darn, why’d you sell? I mean you almost have all of the tanks I’d keep it as a memory or maybe still use it.
empty ember
turbid pond
@merry grove late reply, but the Tiger II is not really a tank that will leave good memories inside you
Usual HT tactics will work in it
Angle at a good 15 degs to increase your frontal hull and try to hide the lower plate
merry grove
Yea i didnt get good memories already... 😂 😂
turbid pond
Unless you are the only high tier HT on your team NEVER go spearhead, your armor would let you down
@merry grove its even worse when you go to the Panther II
merry grove
I tried sidescraping and hull down... It works but not reliable
turbid pond
Hull down is not effective because the turret is crap
turbid pond
Just try to upgrade to the E75 as fast as possible; it is a much better tank
merry grove
Ok thx
tight hemlock
Guys, How do you think about kpfpz 70? Do you guys think it is capable to fight other tier 9 HTs?
ancient hatch
@tight hemlock
dont ask me i didnt get it
tight hemlock
@ancient hatch oh....sorry about that
solid gate
@tight hemlock well if it faces my amx premiere it’s dead
dense dome
Is T43 good?
ancient hatch
kpfpz doesnt basically have any armor
split veldt
Kv2 good
tight hemlock
@solid gate I was penetrated its front upper plate by RU 251's AP. It is not HT. Why this is HT why? I can understand if it is MT though. But....
This tank manages to fight MTs 1:1
Why it is HT wargaming???
solid gate
@tight hemlock Um use proper grammar plz so I can read it
tight hemlock
@solid gate Im not used to it sry
solid gate
@tight hemlock It’s strong turret is the reason btw
tight hemlock
@solid gate so many weakspots.....
solid gate
@tight hemlock You just don’t know how to use it properly
tight hemlock
Hmmm....should I practice more? I had 2k battles with kpz though.....still cant get it.
dense dome
@frigid compass i think u should ve stayed on 85 mm lol
solid gate
@tight hemlock I don’t own one but hide the part of ur turret that has the hatch
tight hemlock
Kpz has bigger problem than that. Anti aircraft gun box on the side of the turret drives me crazy
solid gate
@tight hemlock yeah I’m talking bout that hatch
tight hemlock
@solid gate Oh......didnt know that sry
solid gate
@tight hemlock watched this yet? https://youtu.be/oK3nP9w98-Q
tight hemlock
@solid gate ahh now I remember. I watched it before. Hull down position can help kpz more useful
solid gate
It’s basically a WT on steroids
solid gate
My T 34 3 has 5 so chill
tight hemlock
But that has nice aiming time and good alpha dmg. And it is fast enough isnt it?
solid gate
The reload kills and gun depression
solid gate
But the aim and mobility is decent but the reload makes it so you don’t really have the ability to carry games
solid gate
I would say 112 is worth it
tight hemlock
@solid gate yeah I have one too. Nice sidescraping and strong upper front armor
solid gate
When your team gets to a new level of useless
warm brook
Needs buff
tight hemlock
Same here.....damm Asia server
warm brook
Yes drac needs also buff
tight hemlock
Wat
tight hemlock
I think drac is enough to carry game now....
Last time I did 5k dmg with my IS-4 alone and rest of my team did under 1k dmg.......
solid gate
@warm brook would you say 112 and wd blaze are fake tanks cuz they existed in blueprints
If you say their fake then you would be saying the SP1C is fake
fickle moss
heh i think he meant all fantasy tanks shud be removed XD
solid gate
Welcome to capitalism where everything is done for money
raven rampart
@solid gate hey
@solid gate Well I don't the game is pay to win at all
@solid gate and who cares about camo
solid gate
Oof so many tags
faint holly
Tier XI anyone?
vast belfry
Nein! If pc does that, then maybe.
viscid root
How good is the IS-3 right now?
crude zinc
The IS-8 is better tier for tier.
I struggled I. The IS-3 for some reason. Armor is similar, gun is similar. I think it’s the speed.
valid lodge
I thought the opposite,
Is3 > Is8
viscid root
mixed results. I am going to assume that means it isn't amazing but isn't terrible
stable wedge
Hey guys i have a question... should i save my free xp to research jagpanther or should i use my free xp to unlock modules on the centurion 7/1?
fallen fractal
@stable wedge free xp best for unlock modules, worst for unlocking another stock tank.
Lowe's legendary camo should change the name.. like T34 Falcon for example.
viscid root
@stable wedge I am no expert but every seems to agree that modules are the way to go. Playing stock tanks can be pretty terrible
That being said. I haven't really saved free xp or used gold to convert xp. I have played through a lot of stock tanks (every tank I own) and have done ok. Some are worse than others
queen sky
Hi
I have a question about my battles
For example I drive a tier 1 tank and I get 1500 credits
But at final I got -500 credits
It can be because my auto supply for ammunition was on ?
viscid root
@queen sky certain things cost credits per battle. For example camo, consumables, provisions, and ammo. I could be mistake but I believe there is also repair cost for getting damaged. You need to earn more in a match than you lose.
torpid charm
@solid gate it’s still on console
queen sky
@viscid root thank you but I am new and I think that I don't have camo
You think that I could find tutorials on YouTube for how to earn more money ?
viscid root
@queen sky Maybe. The last time I looked most of the videos are geared towards slightly higher tiers for credit grinding. For the most part the big key is deal dmg, don't take more damage than you need to, and win the match.
Bushka has a lot of good general guide videos though. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXR8UhZCwzLfclPohwNCPBg/videos and this guy has a lot of tank guides https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBVESWosaPmJOAQgQm96bIA/videos
queen sky
Thank you very much @viscid root
viscid root
no problem mate. Best of luck.
queen sky
What is your higher tier ?
viscid root
I haven't been playing all that long. I have one T8 and a few T7 tanks that I mostly play
queen sky
Man nice
cosmic sandal
should i save my credits for tier 10 BC or Grille?
quaint jetty
So, should I get the tier 9 amx that is in the store right now or hold off and see what Black Friday deals will be going on?
valid lodge
Shark, I was referring relative to it's tier. I think is3 does better in it's tier bracket than is8 does against its bracket
drowsy parcel
Nerf the WZ-120-1FT! It’s such a stupidly overpowered tank that anyone with 1 IQ could play.
bitter vigil
not anyone, to play with it you must have money do buy it
drowsy parcel
I just saw a platoon with the WZ-120-1FT, you can guess what happened after that.
Nerf the dumb tanks Wargamming.
bitter vigil
umm, battle lost 7:0?
near forge
@drowsy parcel They won't, cause having an OP tank at price means people pay it up the nose to "Have an advantage"
distant birch
Thue can't Nerf premium tanks anyway only "enriched tanks"
drowsy parcel
No, they won’t do it because they don’t wanna get sued
near forge
No, you can't sue em. It's in the terms of agreement that changes to tanks are their decision, not yours.
distant birch
Last time they nerfed a premium tanks was in wot PC and that didn't end well for WG
drowsy parcel
If I paid money for a premium tank they nerfed, I could sue them for misinformation because they specifically said they’ll never need premium tanks, that was in the news a while back. And if I paid money for a tank that they gave a somewhat accurate description for, they could get sued for misinformation as well
keen mantle
I mean for most of the tanks they gave you a full refund for them with the gold from selling
drowsy parcel
I’m talking about tanks you buy for money.
keen mantle
Yeah, sucks to be you guys, I'd be pretty pissed too
drowsy parcel
The people who thought of that tank must’ve been missing their brain when they made that tank, honestly.
near forge
I can see what you mean, but If you bought it before the nerf you go twhat you paid for when you got it.
keen mantle
I mean, a lot of the tanks are still very effective
drowsy parcel
More op the tier X tanks and tier VIII tanks
keen mantle
is the STB-1 worth the grind through all the sub par tanks
keen mantle
ISU-152
drowsy parcel
That’s in blitz...
ancient hatch
@keen mantle
LMAO i just got sherman for free XD
keen mantle
ISU-152 has more dpm and can reliably penetrate the WZ-120-1 FT's front
near forge
That is my reasoning when I say you buy a premium, then a few monthst later it gets nerfed. You now have a tank that was fine when you bought it, then it was rebalanced.
That is why I say you can't sue them. It would be like you buy a car, drive it for 10 years, then it breaks down and you sue the car company for lack of foresight.
drowsy parcel
ISU-152 ain’t got nothing on the WZ, it doesn’t have the maneuverability, DPM, or armor
keen mantle
Yeah, it only really wins out in a 1v1
short raptor
Are they equal on HP or is the WZ better in that regard, also?
solid gate
Is this wz new? Never heard or encountered it
keen mantle
HP is the same i believe
drowsy parcel
But did the company remove a part from the car? Cause that’s like nerfing the Wz
near forge
But you said yourself it needs a nerf. Now you are defending keeping it that way.
drowsy parcel
I’m not defending it, I’m saying that’s what my version of your statement is
keen mantle
the SU-122-44 was already pretty strong, then some genius thought that making that a tier 8, giving it better frontal armor than the Mod 1, giving it Comet DPM, shrinking it to the size of an E 25, and giving it tier 10 medium tank penetration was gonna be fine.
drowsy parcel
I will NEVER defend that tank, even if my clan mates had them
ancient hatch
@solid gate
cuz im go to hell XD
keen mantle
Honestly tier 8 Tournaments should have nothing but WZ-120-1 FTs, VK 100.01 (P)s, and T-54 ltwts at this point if you want to win
ancient hatch
i also got free attachment to it
i logged in and i got T15 from a medium crate XD
thanks WG i lova ya
keen mantle
Yeah it's strong without being blatantly OP
solid gate
@solid gate im high yes
covert echo
Anybody have the Skorpion yet?
spiral isle
Anyone pay 200$ yet?
woeful dagger
I've seen many people with a Skorp, they all say they got 20 crates and the tank dropped on the last one.
spiral isle
Pretty lucky.
covert echo
how much is 20 crates?
spiral isle
50$ ish
covert echo
oof
spiral isle
and the 50 crates is around 100$
covert echo
chief, I just want half of a turret
near forge
I am not going to try for the Skorp. Papaer mache armor is not part of my play style
hexed sail
well do wg have small idea about kv4 its work tank ever no armor no pen no alpha miss a lot and no speed stop saying its ok i have good stats on it but its trash
hollow delta
What do you mean "kv4 has no armour"
near forge
The armor of the KV-4 is pretty tough in some spots
keen mantle
KV-4 has no armor against a Type 62 to be fair
near forge
Yeah, but that is a specific tank. In general it sounds like a good tank
covert echo
all I know is that I got a Tiger I, Hellcat, and AMX 12 t
hollow delta
Oof
near forge
I have the AMX 13 75, worth the grind honsetly.
fringe otter
KV-4 is too slow to be good
hollow delta
Yeah, BC line is real good
near forge
@fringe otter It makes up for the speed with armor and the ablility to ask for a push to the fight >_<
fringe otter
It’s ok, but it’s not great
hexed sail
i mean tier 7 meds can pen kv4 angled armor with no problem
hollow delta
No
near forge
In the AMX 13 75 I killed the KV-4, Tiger II, and T28 Prot in one battle
short raptor
Type 62 pramo spam
hexed sail
tank bad its ez super bad and wg dont even think to buff it
hollow delta
Because the overall stats in it are on par with the others
The kv4 is a good tank in the right hands
near forge
What about it needs buffed @hexed sail ?
We can't really get an understanding of what you feel needs helped about it when all you say is "buff it"
keen mantle
13 75 could use some engine power
near forge
My man
spiral isle
Every tier 7 med in the game ranges from 140 - 160 pen. None of them have over a 20% chance of penning a kv4s flat armor, let alone angled.
Kv4 is great for killing low tiers, its when its bottom tier that its speed becomes its downfall, cuz at tier 9 its armor is irrelevant
keen mantle
"Every tier 7 med in the game ranges from 140 - 160 pen." Panther has 198mm
spiral isle
Outliers are outliers
thats not a med, thats a death machine, we dont talk about it -_-
keen mantle
Then because it has good mobility the Tiger 1 could almost be called a medium
hexed sail
kv4 is trash worst tier 8 heavy yes drac keep pen me in front no problem
hollow delta
Because of premium rounds
hexed sail
its like wg put op tanks like wz td scorpein and let us suffer playing tanks like kv4 t28 prot clap clap
spiral isle
A drac has 150 pen, he cant pen you in the front armor unless he is spamming prem
and if he is, he is doing 180 damage instead of 225, so better for you
hexed sail
yes spam gold and its ez pen
keen mantle
Everyone spams prammo at KV-4s
hexed sail
i played kv4 after 50k battles in blitz and it was worst tank ever
i did play it in toon with rhn and let my toon m8 use me as extra hp to get good wr on it
near forge
@hexed sail Stop complaining about someone spamming Pramo at you, and learn people have contingency plans for tanks like yours showing up in battle.
hexed sail
with that mobilite and all who shot at me pen me that not fun at all
its tier 7 med how cna pen you with pramo in front armor with big angle
oblique pollen
If a tier 7 MT can pen you in frontal armor, then they must've loaded Pramo. Unless it is a Panther
hexed sail
the tank slow cant do fast move have nothing good why they can pen armor with no roblem
oblique pollen
Because flat armor
keen mantle
the Type 62's prammo can pen the front of a KV-4 at a 50 degree angle
oblique pollen
180mm if you don't angle it, then it stay around 180mm. Most prammo will pierce through
short raptor
The key to the KV IV is that you have to angle a lot more than you would be comfortable doing in any other tank
spiral isle
I wouldnt say its the worst tier 8 heavy. Its hard to play, is slow and depends on its armor which can be penned by most tier 8s. Its not a great vehicle... but the tiger 2 and 50 100 are worse imo, and the stats for average players show it as well.
The 50 100, isnt fast enough for its size and lack of armor and the tiger 2 is a giant marshmello with average speed hoping that its great gun does all the work
near forge
AMEN ^^
keen mantle
was in my Type 62 and saw a KV-4 angled at 50 degrees and I could pierce the upper frontal plate with the prammo
spiral isle
dragon has 250 heat pen, what do u expect
thats some of the highest premium pen at tier 7
oblique pollen
KV-4 if overangled, the armor behind track wheel is easy to pen
keen mantle
The KV-4's armor is pretty pointless when people can just load skill rounds and kill you anyways, albeit about 20% slower than normal
hexed sail
@spiral isle look if the maus tier 8 face huge kv4 rip kv4
spiral isle
Well if the vk100 face hugs anyone with sub 250 pen its rip
hexed sail
me i was troller by noobs maus tier8 and lowe they have 47 50 wr and rekt me i just cant pen them if they face huge me i dont enjoy that
oblique pollen
Well even Centu' HESH will do full damage to KV-4 front armor
keen mantle
Only an idiot would let a VK 100.01 (P) face hug
spiral isle
The 7/1? Because the tier 8 cent doesnt have hesh... and the tier 9 cent has 210 hesh pen... which is > than 180 armor, so duh
hexed sail
i will never play it i alrady have is4 but tank is bad amx 50 100 have mobilite good play can use it so you can use skills kv4 how to you use skill?? if you are helpers make video to help us how we use skills on kv4
oblique pollen
AMX 50 100 was really good before it nerfed
hexed sail
players suffer from it and i say it if you think its good help us ans show us how to play kv4
oblique pollen
Same full burst damage as AMX 50 120
spiral isle
4 clip 50 100 was legit... was one of my fav tanks, probably too OP
hexed sail
amx 50 100 can do great games kv4 cant
karmic lantern
I want the Mäuschen new German tier 9, but I need 128K xp though. I can’t buy free xp because I have no gold. What do I do someone give me ideas? On to get lot more xp?, cuz when I win I only get like 700 xp
Per battle
oblique pollen
Buy premium account and use combat exp booster
spiral isle
The amx is large, easy to pen and too slow to get away from other heavies let alone meds... and a tier 7 med can 1v1 you to death before you even reload your clip.
A kv4 may be slow and people can spam prem all they want, but you have great pen, accuracy (especially for a russian tank) huge tracks to absorb heat rounds and u can sidescrape like a boss
I would take the kv4 over the 50 100 anyday, assuming we are talking current day 50 100 and not pre nerf version.
keen mantle
Grave Digger+Tankenstein is an OP platoon combo change my mind
spiral isle
Define "OP"
oblique pollen
Helsing + Dracula is an OP Platoon combo
hexed sail
@keen mantle i sold gradigger for amx30 and its worth
spiral isle
I have, i think its great, but there are plenty of other, better combos I would take
oblique pollen
I've seen some platoon combo, and it is really effective.
- 183 & 183
- 215b & IS-4
- Maus & E100
- 140 & 62A
- 140 & G15
- WZ-113 & IS-4
- 268 & 263
- E4 & M48 Patton
These combos often beats my platoon.