#vehicles-discussion
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@solemn vessel nice job
No way they let you
@solemn vessel what ,what kind of sorcery is this ?
@solid gate I had 6 kills in AMX ELC and my whole team camped and I dealt will all enemies and when I had to claim my trophies,guess what ,the camping KV 1 stole it
@solemn vessel E1?
The community is pretty trash tbh 😂 😂 😂 like WHO DOES THAT ??
You mean T54E1?
@solid gate yeah ,he tought "oh ,this dude slaughtered the enemy team alone ,it would be a shame if he gets 7 kills"
I’m a noob and I never camped in a kv1
I always stayed in the front line, that tank is a sidescraping monster
Well congratulate @solid gate ,you know how to sidescrape,many noobs don't know what that means
i once went afk for 2-3 mins, came back to see that im 1v6 in a kv1, won xD
Yea, And I don’t have any tier 6 tanks, and only 2 tier 5 es
@gaunt mountain whaaaaaat😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
no problem. you'll go up the tech tree really fast if you find the line that you like
Both Russian, su 75 and kv1
@solid gate don't rush ,a slow but steady progress is the key to learn
Ok
watching videos about the tank(s) that youre researching at the moment is very helpful
but please not bushka. he'll just hay wiggle and jiggle nothing else 😛
I mean I had panther II "team mate" and during the entire match he had the IQ to shoot once even that he had so many opportunities since we were playing on Black Goldvile and enemy T-34-85 Rudy was on that have corridor ,he just stayed hidden near that column and let that Rudy to slaughter us ,I was in Jpanther and did like 2k before going down
@gaunt mountain even if you watch PC games ,very useful ,QB and Dezgames refined my play style
ye but the map tactics are different on PC. tanks themselves is pretty close i guess
Yes
Maps are different ,by all means
90% of the tanks have the exact same stats like on PC
Well firstly ,that thing if it's like I saw on YouTube,it will pierce everything
@analog verge it can have a separate game mode but the mechanic it's not that simple to implement ,they wanted to implement a similar thing on PC when they wanted to introduce tier 11 aka modern tanks
With ATGM since MBT are using ATGMs
T54e1 is an amazing tank, 69% wr and 2k av dam lol
Hey for thé T49 the derp gun is the 90mm are 152mm pls
@dreamy lantern you right but @solid gate can be done
152
Thx
@analog verge nothing to @ moderators about. We don’t work for wg
@analog verge I don't think this is so easy to implement
CAn’t we just reduce the creddit lose from the t49?
Its really pain in the.... when we play with the 152 gun
In t49 the ammo cost lots of money, it's true. Me have no idea how to reduce credit lose.....
good point they should reduce it
yeah i aggree
WG should make 183 hesh shells cost 30k a piece
Then why would you play that tank ?
HESH it's to balance crap armor and gun handling
@frigid ember I'm sure a lot of time we ask u this question (sorry) but :
Why did u choose the WZ-113 and not the WZ-111 5A ?
And when this tank will apear ?
Exactly! No one will play the tank and the tier 10 meta will become less cancerous
@icy belfry then why would Death star's line exist ?
@urban wasp I heard that 5A it's pretty dope and I saw some gameplay on PC
yeah i know, his DPM is just CRAZY on WoT PC compare to IS-7
And far more mobile
@icy belfry Why would they do that? .... HESH is not the god shell. Half the time HE is more effective than HESH as with HESH you need the perfect side shot for it to be effective
Bobject 277 it's 120% better than IS 7 in every way
@surreal pier when it's HE more effective than HESH?
Profits
@dreamy lantern If you use HESH on a heavy when you get splash damage from it the HE actually does the same damage and costs way less than the HESH
you do know that non premium hesh is a thing right
@surreal pier you don't shoot a heavy with HE
@keen mantle well yes ,but HESH has a larger target list than HE so it pays off
@solid gate Après avoir regardé ta dernière review, je me suis demandé, tu sais pourquoi WG a plutôt choisi le WZ-113 au lieu du WZ-111 5A ? Et quand apparaitra-t-il ?
HESH I find is most useful against meds and armor that it can pen otherwise you use HE again if your smart you don't burn through credits with the 183. I use all ammo in my tanks so I can choose what is the best round for that situation. HESH is only effective if it penetrates the armor because if it doesn't you just used HESH as HE when if you used HE on the same shot you save credit
@surreal pier you use HESH when you know you can penetrate 100% the target
@surreal pier Pantoufleee it's from France if I am not mistaken
Parce que le 113 est apparu bien avant le WZ dans world of tank PC @urban wasp
Le WZ 5A viendra plus tard
@solid gate This is a english server .... please respect that and use English
Dude ,you don't know who is he ? @surreal pier
@dreamy lantern Don't care .... This is a English server so .....
It's like saying to QB "hey ,speak chinese since you played on Chinese server"
Someone asked me someting in french why would I bother answer in english if he can’t understand me ?
@dreamy lantern he’s right
@solid gate understood. That’s fine. If it continues just pm
Don’t worry it was only a question I’ll not spam in french here @pulsar sinew
I’m sure you won’t bud
so thx for the answer @solid gate 👍
How I can easily get the T-54? The T-44 is a PRETTY ANNOYING TANK!
T 54 it ^^
You can stop playing the T-44 because the T-54 plays pretty similarly
I understand, but me need the T-62A
@surreal pier if you're using HESH on a heavy and you can pen then you're bad
@keen mantle t54 can bounce so many shots, especially against tier 8, can the t44 do that. I bounced 2 shots of prammo in a row from a t110e3
the T-54 isn't a reliable bouncer, and the T-44 can bully tier 7s and get troll bounces from other tier 8s
Yes its true
The T-62A not has so much armor, but the turret can bounce are the high penetration shells
@lament smelt I use HESH on Maus"s especially if I get the right angle and I pen them regularly and usually do the 1300 damage that HESH allows
@keen mantle t54 is a very reliable bouncer against tier 8 meds and lights and also against heavies if you angle or wiggle
yes the T-44 bounces most tier 7s easily
But then again I use calibrated shells on 95% of my tanks
But can it bounce prammo from tier 9 TDs if you angle the front a fair bit but not an autobounce
Meh
What equipment do you recommend for Churchill 1?
@surreal pier dot use it if it already has enough pen
I mean a KV-13 can get stupid bounces, and my Type 62 has bounced 122mm shells, it's all luck on most stupid bounces
@lament smelt And why not? ..... I rarely bounce any shot with it set up that way
@solid gate gun rammer, improved optics, first option for survivability, hp buff etc, all the usual things
Ok tnx
the armor is about as reliable as the Churchill 1's lmao
@surreal pier but if it has enough pen, the only way you are going to bounce is if there is an autobounce angle so you would benefit from having higher dpm
@solid gate don't use Churchill hull down, it has a very weak turret
Ok
@lament smelt Using calibrated shells you get much more reliable hits and they really don't add much time to your reload and besides I will take a little slower reload if it means I can regularly pen most tanks without using the premium rounds
But if it has enough pen then that happens anyway @surreal pier
rammer only works on paper or if you have stupid peneration like the CGC or ARL 44
All my skills are either lv1 or less
I use calibrated shells on my Obj. 268 for the extra HE pen 😃
The more pen on a caliber, the more damage per shot.
You cannot have enough pen in this game and having the needed skills are also very important
@haughty void I don't use calibrated on my 268 but I do on the 263
Hehe nice!
Why is the canavron so bad
it's not
is hellcat any good?
its being removed and nerfed. It has good camo and its fun but 3.8 ruined it
No armor and bad dpm but it's good
turret can bounce tier 5s
@quasi mirage it's actually staying in 5.5
whats the best tank to go with
for what? lol
like should i go with the SU line, IS line like what??
Jackson is a very good tank imo
obj 268 line is a very good line with good tanks all the way down
is the Jackson line good?
I would say no tbh
which line is best
I recommend the IS-7 and Obj. 268 lines
@static girder hellcat is amazing and that whole line is really fun except t28 proto which I don't like but some people do
Hellcat not Jackson line, Jackson has t28 and t95 which are so bad compared to t28 proto and t30
how do i use the hellcat because im close getting it
Sort of as a medium
Never be the one being shot at, get to the sides and shoot, if anyone rushes run, if you run out of targets go to a new spot
Just remember you have slow turret traverse so it is possible smetimes to be CODd. It's fast too so relocate if you need help
if you have the top turret try to only show the turret
it has no armor avoid being hit whenever you can
Think of it as a low hp light tank with no armour accept gun mantlet which might get a bounce, good gun, high alpha and dpm but not good turret traverse
literally everything can pen your hull with HE
@keen mantleno because it's sloped but definitely in the sides and rear
But watch out for kv2s
85mm guns with HE can pen literally any spot on the hull other than the tracks
I literally auto aimed and circled one with my Type 62 and every single shell penned
Which o
yeah turret probably bounces up to 110 pen
Anyone else notice the Scavenger has a flame thrower?
yeah
Mayhaps a sign of thing to come?
Pls no
what are everyone's opinions on the best and worst tank lines?
They've done it on console ... As a special event
nah I mean the Churchill and M3 have secondary cannons those aren't touched
Is it worth 2 buy the T21?
Is 500 gold worth some credits?
@viscid root the IS-7 Line is probably one of the best line
T21 is a very Nice tank
When will the vk 72 drop?
I hope in the new update
Im grinding the vk 45 now
Then grind the EXP or use free exp
Yes , idk if the VK will be hard to get
Probaly about the same as maus
it will not help you how to remove tanks because noobs will not learn so, so how to remove tanks will not solve the problem with new players who can not play it I would leave as it was in patch 5.4 when it comes to tanks
@bitter matrix Thanks I was looking at the IS-7 line. It seems pretty solid all the way through. What do you think about the T110E5 line for U.S. heavies? (I am grinding both those lines little by little right now)
The T110E5 is also a great tank ! He has a good Reload, and a front armor good , a good maniability, his line is also a good choice @viscid root ( This is my opinion )
@bitter matrix Thanks m8.
M8 ?
mate=m8
Oh ok lol
i love the e5 line
Yes it’s good , the T110E5 is also a great Tier X
the t29 is flat out broken, probably the second best t7 after the tiger P.
The t32 is basically a more heavily armored t29 that is near as good. Its pen, while terrible, is surprisingly rarely a problem as it aims fairly quickly and accurately
i averaged about 1750 damage/battle in t29 and 1900 in the t32
Gg
basically all you do is hulldown though even the hulls are pretty well armored
or, i shouldnt say that. the armor is mediocre. but they're really bouncy with the large tracks and heavy slant
its really easy to get ppl to shoot your tracks instead of the hulls, and when you pop out, they'll often hit the slanted part from an angle and bounce
?
is Chinese tanks good
Yes. They is good
@solid gate doubtful. Think about it... it's a vehicle for the apocalypse. A flamethrower would be realistic. If anything its mainly appearance
chinese heavies are good but the mediums are only good at t7
Why would you play the vk 30.01H? It's really slow, and not as good as the other tanks at its tier
Italian Meatballin tanks should be next
They should add the chinese heavies like the Oh-Ho
Japanese? 🤦🏽♂️
no
is teh scavenger like a premium tank? its blue
its a collector's tank
oh does it come with a free space?
I see the German heavies added as the pennicle of armor. If Japanese heavies ever come, its 2022.
More than likely the China TD's with good frontal armor will come next, but that is NOT confirmed.
The German Heavies i mean the restructuring of the 5.5 update.
aight my review of the scavenger is that it is pretty bad with barely any protection of modules and cant pen much
Are the czechoslovakian and Swedish tanks ever gonna get introduced?
i dont think so they might add more lines for the existing nations
Well they are adding the vk 72 before the 4005 so i guess youre right
wait they might add fv4005?
I dont know
I would just like if they added all the tanks that theyve got in the computer version
the game might be too big for phones to handle then
I would guess the next tree, other than the China TD's, might be Swedish heavies. Simular to the French.
Either that or czech
I would like some Chinese TDs
chinese tanks are basically russian tanks with french camo
And with a big gun fetish
@keen mantle word choice
Sorry, thought that would be fine tbh :p
What are some of your favourite tanks?
@modest tangle will support me on this LEOPARD 1 FTW
Very nice. It's good to have a favourite tank.
problem is tht i suffer credit loss almost every battle with it XD
so i have to use a premium tank to grind credits lol
That ain't fun, is it?
well thts makes t-34-85 victory my other favourite tank as well
Thats fun
the fun part is wrecking enemies in it :3
I'm working on getting my Batchat 25 t ap back after a few months of shelving it
well keep working on those credits
Lol. I have like 27 mil credits.
now i can earn over 5000 gold when it is update 5.5
They should nerf the gravedigger there is not many weakspots in it with tier six
yea they should
So I have a question for you guys. If you could put premium matchmaking on any tank you chose, what tank would it be?
@autumn pier That's why you should not play tier 6.
@keen mantle What's premium matchmaking?
What if I'm trying to get the t341 and IS2
@keen mantle tog and is 6
^^^^^
Goose>gravedigger
Always being top tier is premium matchmaking
I'm not wasting gold in those
you what nvm ill be kp
well guys we have to wait for the dust to settle down before we can have a clear look at how the gravedigger fares
I use premium ammo and still doesn't pen smh
i use preminum round using teir 1 and didn't pen tier 10
I'd put premium MM onto my KV-13 if I could
i think u shud do for all those low pen tier 7 mts
ok later
I'm kinda upset the T-150 is being made into a collectors. T-150 has to be one of my favorite tier 6 vehicles
And my most played lol
I hate it
Comet lol.
keep those premiun tanks you can sell them for gold
KV-13 is a special case, It's borderline op when top tier but almost useless when bottom tier thanks to IS-3 spam
Should I get my t15 back?
how?
my most played is the t-43 ._.
My most played vehicle is the AMX 13 90
KV-13 is amazing
My most played is the leopard but thanks to seal clobbers it's getting nerfed
Mine is PZ3/4. Maybe that's why I have so many credits.
3/4 is great
@keen mantle i think u shud say the same thing for t-43 at top tier its great but bottom tier... nah
Agreed
Best Credit grinder.
and theres the angry connor with 230% credit coefficient lol
Angry Conner is an oddball.
And KV-13 top tier is hilarious with the IS armor profile though
I remember learning that the IS-2/IS-2 1944 were used as long range support and tried that playstyle in blitz and got so messed up by the aim time and all that
lol i think u learnt from the wrong person
Nah
IRL every tank was long range support
@winged jay Historical accuracy doesn't translate too well in the game.
Yeah
Panzer 4 was a front line tank in early ww2. But is support role in game.
If wotb was historically accurate, my T-150 would be an emplacement
The 57mm on the MT-25 is a resized 8.8cm muzzle on a 57mm gun
why is matchmaking so long on t1?
Gotta boot up those bots. Ya know?
Yup
I want to into Germany but i dont want to wait all day
-How a French tank would behave if WOT Blitz followed WW2 stereotypes -Just Dropped in by Supergrass -3WW by ALT-J featuring Lomepal -Here by Pavement -Send ...
wow this video again...
Reposting. 😂
Ikr 😂, u gotta be really annoying to get a yt channel anywhere
sometimes i want to differ XD
Do you have a channel
nope
Any tips on how to get better with the caernarvon
tip#1: play it like a medium. The tank is designed to fight mediums not heavies
Yeah I tend to not fight Infront I let the IS on my team lead and I support.
Or any bouncy tanks
guys
The stug is the best tier v td change my mind
Which gets one shot by kv2s
with ap
Hell no, ap is gay
Yeah but it's the best tier v td
@little phoenix it wont be after update 5.5 :3
Oh damn
How come?
they are gonna nerf it
Oh noes
a whole slew of nerf in bound for stug lol
jg pz 4 aint being spared as well but the nerfs on tht tank not as harsh as tht on stug
Is that factual or just a guess?
factual
Oh damn welp
i just bought the T-150 back so it'll be fully upgraded once update 5.5 rolls around
Why does no one talk about the post-buff SU-122-54
It’s like an E-25 Now
Hahaha
It’s as fun as the yolo wagon now
Best DPM in game
Good pen
Good concealment
Still waiting for the Skorpion G
@solid gate still is performing below all other tier 9 TDs
Why?
I'm not that good player but i can make it work. Aside from lack of gun arc and depression, its good.
Medium killing TD.
My only td line is german and british. The gun arc feels low comparwd to them.
Checked it, it has 8/8 compared to Jagdtiger's 10/10.
And it looks like Obj 263 has even less at 7/7. Hmm.
Most enjoyable tank line overall in my opinion would be the Grille 15
Borsig was fun prenerf, after nerf it has russian accuracy. Sold it. Waffletraktor with 128mm was fun though, better than Grille for me.
@tough dune thats gun DEPRESSION, not gun ARC
@pearl dragon So, blitzhanger is wrong?
Agh gimme 10 ill check my app
I'm still keeping my Borsig
Very fun
I've turned a few games around by driving it like a med late-game
Still full health, of course
Is 4 need improved aiming time
IS-4 is already insanely easy to drive
I don't think it needs further buffs
which is better the IS-7 or the IS-4
Depends
I'd say both are good in their own way
IS-7 is a meme machine that has good mobility and armor then has gun handling that misses a shot from 2m away
Look what happend to my shot in my t49
T49A confirmed
Yep it's hidden in random t49s
Were you moving? @mental knoll
Nope
Oh 🤔
Stalin hates ISU without BL-10
id like to say something to express my pure awe but I fear that it may be inappropriate to my fellow discord members in current order, despite this minor fact may i state without consequence that the above small clip posted today November 4th by iRaikkonenp[Pramo] was a remarkable, marvelous shot displayed and i tip my hat to you sir.
I forgot the AT7 had that many shots
Nice hol dir Pz.4
@inland osprey I bring half/half
@pulsar sinew general Einsenhower blessed that shell😂 👌
And OP af
ARL V39 is worst tank in blitz
T44 and vk 45 02a need buff
My wr is going down due to vk
sau 40 is the worst tank
Sau 40 is even worse when it is first released
No AP for top gun
Since buff SU-122-54 > JagdTiger
at8 stock gun sucks
at 8 sucks
I have chaffee after update it will be tier 6 so my tank will become tier 6 or it will be another tier 5 tank?
This new update sucks
Why?
Bc its goin to take forever to sell all these tanks for gold
@solid gate probably. as a new player it is kinda cool. I am going to get some free tanks and slots for the line i picked
Ami rite
is4 or is7? Whats diffrence
@inland osprey it's not ,play the AMX A.C. 46 stock ,fell the hell
@inland osprey also VK.45.02A was really fun to play for me ;really fast ,8 seconds reload ,turret in the front so you peak corners like a boss
@spark basin yeas
@solid gate IS-4 has better Premium penetration, higher DPM, better accuracy, stronger armour, shorter hull
Ok
@solid gate IS 4 is slower with better armor profile ,since it can bounce anything if you don't see the lower plate,you need to spam gold unless you are a TD ,also slower ,IS 7 has a bugger gun with better alpha and pen ,faster,but bigger lower plate and front can be penned if the driver is angling
@solid gate Tiger II is awesome
Ok
Also IS-7 has very weak ammorack durability and placed just bellow the front armor
K
Ok
Yes, the new German heavies come in 5.5 (VK 100.01 P, Mauschen and VK 72.01 K) @analog verge
Do we get certificates for vehicle XP discount ?
@dusky stone thanks
@dreamy lantern no
:( that would have been great
I saw that T95E6 today, CHOSEN1_ who has am impressive win rate of 41%
I Hope WG choses better candidates for supertest
Do anybody agree dat tiger p is da best german t7?
@rustic oar no
@dusky stone
VK 100 P can get by what tank
Tiger p?
Is it true that STA-1 is an MBT like the centurion 1?
its not a mbt
Heavy
T 43 =money maker= RUSSIAN BIAS
what do yall think of the scavenger?
@oblique pollen Where's your sister, Miho Nishizumi? 😂
At her school, I think 😅
i think t-34-3 is worse than its tech tree variant
Wargaming is trying to transition WoT tank prices into blitz
@sacred ember having only super unicums to test a tank might result in stats that are a bit too impressive for the tank and thus result in an inferior premium it the shop
@vast belfry STA has only one thing going for it and that's the gun. Second line support tank
Is it wrong to spam Hesh with 7/1 ? 🤔.
Sometimes some people got triggered because I throw them with my Hesh
Nah, I don't care about credit anyway, as long as I can win
they get triggered because they think they got he penned mysteriously and call hacks
I penetrated IS-5 3 times with Hesh, resulting 1.3k total dmg, and he called me Cheating 😂
On head-on combat
I had similar experiences as well. I was using tiger P and was the last one standing againts an IS6 and a full hp stock tiger II. I was able to take out the IS6 since he was already half hp and when i was facing the Tiger II,i had no problem penning him despite the fact that he is sidescraping since I can hit his lower glasis. Finished the match and won the battle,both the is6 and tiger 2 called me a cheater and when I told them that I'm not,they accused me of using premmo all the time.
Ammo rekt Tigerp with T3485
Got military honour down cause he salty
He reported you?
@narrow rampart I wasn't talking about how to play the STA-1. I know roughly how to play Japanese paper tanks. I wanted to confirm if the STA-1 and Type 61 were indeed MBTs like the centurion.
Guys... I just got the t-34-3....any opinions about it??
I don’t own it but saw it in battle and way better than the tech tree one
@solid gate thx for opinion
@bright relic 😂 😂
awuu
this is actually killing me
I will get around 11,000 gold next update from selling
M4A3E2 is the best tier 6 tank
Nah
Pz 4 Schmalturm Cromwell or the Berlin one are better
@solid gate type 59 isn’t really played too much like a typical medium since it’s not super agile and the reload speed isn’t fantastic. Usually I go and support the heavies and go hull down, maybe set up a cross fire if I’m having trouble penning
I like vk 30.01p
vk 30.01p is pretty good perhaps because of the alpha dmg
Type 59 is ok
Good for credit grinding and more flexible than the Lowe in some cases because of its mobility and low profile
Eh I like wz 120-1 the Chinese TD as my cred grinding tank, it’s also more up then the Lowe and the type
More op*
Okay so basically, im monkey 🐒
so who else likes spamming prem hesh in the 7/1 and 4202
its the best thing when e100 drivers get mad when you pen the side of their turret
@jade zealot guilty as charged
When will the vehicles come back fron the GuP film
@oblique pollen 7/1 is made for HESH. Without it, it's a pretty average tank
some people just dont know about the 210mm of pen
Which tank
or the fact that you shouldnt charge a mk.6
it was funny because there was a guy trash talking me because of my stats and challanged me to a tier 10 1v1, me in my mk.6 and him in a is4, he got one pen on me so i rushed him, hugged him and spamed apcr and completely destroyed him
Fair enough. But I like Pz 4 s turret armor
M4A3E2 is kinda like the Tier 6 superpershing
@jade zealot E-100 drivers will always complain about penning their turret 😄
Yeah it's funny when they do
👍
@jade zealot but it is easy to understand though. Many choose that like as first one, so they are yet inexperienced
Yeah
They might eventually came out of the cave and learn there are other tanks which are eventually more fun.
I do kinda feel bad for the tier 8s that I'm put against
E 100 drivers getting their turrets penned is a meme
Yes
I usually go for the lower glacis
Hi guys, is T-34-3 good?
No dis is sch it
Ok thx man🙂
it's not a dpm tank for sure but it's an interesting medium to say the least
VK 72.01 can’t sidescrape because of this
I mean neither can the Lowe
Wait, I could be wrong. On PC the Panzer Kampfwagen VII has similar things, but they don’t count as a part of the tank and can’t be shoot to damage it
like the T29 turret ears?
Hello i would like to know if t34-3 worth the money ?
T-34-3 has nothing special over the T-34-2
T-34-3 has only slightly better hull armor and it's bigger
@keen mantle yes exactly
So not worth 30€ approx.
Don’t show a PC pic of the VK 72 and say it can’t sidescrape smh
I mean it has the same bulges as the Lowe, which keep that from side scraping normally
Bulges? Wdym?
@slender perch tank models doesn’t usually change from PC to Blitz
It doesn't, lowe's are much, much smaller
On PC, that isn’t a weak spot. Panzer 7, the other variation of the 72 01 that has the 128mm has that weak spot.
The tanks are differentiated by their armor profiles on PC. One has thicker frontal other can sidescrape like it’s supposed to.
@slender perch u kidding me ?
One have the « ears » and one haven’t got them
Cause VK 72 hasn’t got the ears it has weak lfp
The ears aren't part of the hit box
Why should I.
I read on PC wiki that the Panzer VII had ears and VK 72 they aren’t part of the hitbox
Because you said “only difference is the gun”
I have a perfectly good application for WoTB,WoTPC and WoT Console
Well, clearly not good enough of you came up with that conclusion. 😂😂😂👌🏻👌🏻
What?
Scroll up and read what you said about the difference in both tanks using your WoT Inspector App.
Well obviously
the app is unable to account for user error 🤦
Okay, now read what I said.
LMAO
🍿
I have yet to see someone from WoT PC use WoT Inspector as their source of reliable information about tanks.
I don't use "WoT Inpsector"
I use blitzhangar, Armor Inspector - For WoT and tanks.gg rarely
Thats not the app name though
smh. click on pen in the app to see the difference in armor values
You literally posted this image when claiming both tanks are the same and only difference is the gun. Sir....
Yeah thats because they are the same exact tank, the only difference in them is the 3d model and the gun
the model is the same shape, the armor values differ ....
Why would they differ, that's stupid it's literally the same exact tank
well if you click in your app you can find the place that shows that 😄
What? That made no sense.
They are different because the VK was acquired through Clan Wars while Pz 7 is available in the tech tree. If they both had the same armor profiles and just different guns, people who spent their time playing to get the VK would feel ripped off.
Hey guys about to buy the lowe or the super persh, and I just wanted to your guys' opinions. Thanks 😊
Lowe
Hi the sp1c is so bad
also can you give the why as well
you need to choose the pen feature in the app and choose what it is being shot with to see the difference in armor thicknesses. You aren't using the app properly which is why you have come to the conclusion that the tanks are the same except for the gun @winged jay
How do you use the sp1c
Lowe has armor, good pen and accuracy. Also looks better.
I can't do anything with this trash machine
sniping and repositioning with it
You free XP past it @arctic gate
you skip it it's bad.
About to do that tmr
persh has armor as well
lowe is better
The top part of the tank is very easy to pen, even with inaccurate guns
yeah that is true
I guess I will go with the lowe since it got a big buff it needed
thanks 😄
Quick question
I'm hella scared about getting the ru I'm afraid it's gonna be the same problem as the sp1c
So should I get the Indien or the ru
ru
But I'm afraid it's the same gameplay and problems I have with my sp1c
it's not amazing
In what ways is it different and also the better tank then the indien
I mean I been try a scout with the sp1c but I keep getting two shots
well the ru is fast low to the ground and great gun great pen too
Tryna *
indien doesnt have useful armor and is slow, ru doesnt have any armor and is fast
go check out screenshots I just did a hella lucky shot bout 250 meters out while he was midair using super boost
So the ru is a better option and a chance for better games?
ru is great tank
ru is a good tank if played correctly. Indien panzer is mediocre
run extra gas in ru tho makes it speed up faster
That's why as of right now idk if I'm playing the sp1c correctly either so I don't know if I would be doing well in the ru, like you said it has to be played correctly
So I'm really doubtful
So recently I was thinking about buying the Churchill I, I read the details about it and I'd say It's a good vehicle on paper
I'd like to hear what you have to say about it
Its ok for what it is, if u compare it to other same tier heavies like the kv1, or bdr it fairs as an average heavy. If u are working the line then i would fully suggest it. But otherwise i would say there are better options.
The speed seems to be it's only downside
And caliber of gun
is 113 worth the grind from tier 1?
Yes
The churchil 1 has, i think, he lowest mobility for tier 5 heavy. And also tied for the lowest alfa at tier 5 heavies too.
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate your help
No problem.
If u are wanting a good tier 5 heavy to keep around i would suggest the kv1
Yeah, I've encountered it with a stock gun in a tier V tank...
Big and slow
Churchill mk6 is actually pretty dank tho
i really hate that you can damage and track it at the same time from the front
The Churchill Mk.V doesn't look bad either
But with the mk6 if u shoot tracks u will moste likely bounce the hull so if i face u, u have 187mm hull and 167 mm turret armor to go through.
If i angle my turret, good luck lol
What gun does it have?
75mm from max churchill 7
I know that the Mk.V has a 75 mm
But slightly more pen
its only about 50mm on lower part and 90 on the upper part
Which one?
thats 7
Could u pull up mk6?
about 60-70 mm in those parts
Ouch
If i angle that like 10 defrees in any direction good luck penning, if i andle my turret and turn to shoot then reangle. Good luck
most angled part is 140mm which is not much at tier 6
U are ment to angle at like 15-20 degrees when shooting
Let's just say the british were noobs at making tanks in WW2
u are meant to use free xp on churchill and get to OP black prince
and the to pretty good caernarvon, and then meh conqueror and meh fv215b
Most of the british tanks just have completly flat and weak armour
and are slow
The Cromwell is a good example
Well it's not a slow tank but my God the armour is flat
oh i thought u meant heavy tanks
The whole british line in general
The td line actually does that well tho
The AT series is actually pretty good if we're not talking about speed
at series is good if we're not talking about good tanks
203 mm at the front
In tier V
Tortoise
Absolutely screwed when againts the Jagdtiger
Most stuff is screwed against a jagdtiger
or any other tank
Don't underestimate the brits
The jap line is more less a copy of the leopard 1 med line lol
Some of my favourite tanks are from the british line, like the Sherman Firefly or the Valentine
Pretty much @fallow shoal
theyre good. STB-1 has decent mobility and gun with good turret and gun depression
The line as a whole is not bad if u like peek a boom and being a pseudolight
the line is pretty bad. the tier 10 is good tho
I would say 7-10 are pretty good
only chiri may cause some problems...sometimes. others are kinda weak
The 183 is seriously one of the better TDs at tier X
unlike jgpze100
The jag e100 says hello
i really dont like jgpze100
The only x td i didnt like was the t110e4
I have all but the t110e4
I worked all the lines at some point and my favorite 3 tanks are the kv1s, and both tier 10 russian meds
Wz blaze at a close 4th
I love the Panther/M10
@solid gate what is wrong with you why?
Problem?
its basically a stock panther
But I love muh historical accuracy
Wz blaze is a meme vehical for me lol, no armor, above average mobility, and a above average reload with the is max gun
is any if u on EU server?
I am
we could play i guess
Oh good, I'll just pack my books and we can start
So dear lads ,what we are talking about now ,Churchill VII ?
oh god no please no
Tier 7 prems
@gaunt mountain I am
i didnt even like matilda so i just sold it. didnt even bother with churchills xD
Got to tier 10 and hated the tier 10 heavy
@gaunt mountain Churchill I is bad ass ,Churchill VII is lameee
@fallow shoal you mean the FV215b?
Ye
I really don't know what are you talking about
i wish they made slowmode not so harsh for less active channels
That thing is so good that it should be illegal to be that accurate,with that pen ,that turret,that mobility
it's the living definition of OP
Well lets just say any time i play it, my team doesnt spot and forces me to push into the enemy team or blocks me from shots. Its not the tank its thw wg rng i have when i use it.
fv215b
OP
choose one
@gaunt mountain I prefer both
thats 113
FV is OP
@fallow shoal yeah ,that's why I am doing everything alone ,I spot for them and sometimes they even kill the tank next second
Which one do you guys prefer? Patton or E50m
@gaunt mountain not as mobile as FV ,not as good pen ,not as much gun depression,not as good fun handling
Yea i play the fv402 that way
@maiden dagger played only E 50 M ,I recommend it
We talking the heavy or the med?
@fallow shoal ironicly I was in one ,4.3k damage,2.2 assist
@fallow shoal we are talking about the FV215b tier 10 British heavy tank
K cool just making sure
Brits are special comparing with the others,they are not the best at something ,neither the worst
I got nothing against the tank i just have bad rng when i play with it
Not the most accurate ,not the least
@fallow shoal teams suck ,rarely you see miracles ,once my team killed the enemy team in like 1 minute and 30 seconds,I was stoned
Yea its just no fun for me, compared to the is7 or the chinese heavy which i always have fun playing
China, russia, and japan are probrably my top 3 most played nations.
@fallow shoal I plan to get Grille as my 5th German and 8th tier ten ,I have no Russian tier 10 tanks,2 brits and 1 French,the TD
@fallow shoal I admire your patienice for grinding STB 1
I have all tier 10 but the t110e4 and i am "this" close to selling the fv215b.
And chieftain tier 10 (have it, nit selling it)
@fallow shoal never sell a tier 10,even more FV215b is a rare nestemate ,not everyone has it
I am working equipment for them at the moment, and the fv215b really just sits and collects dust.
I play the stb1 more often
I put equipment in them before I play them ,just to make sure I get the most out of them
The fv215b was my 4th tier 10, 1st obj268, 2nd stb1, 3rd t57 heavy
Then came the 2 russian meds
@fallow shoal so you started with the most costly ones
I got Jaggero first ,then E 100 ,Then E 50 M ,then Leopard 1 ,FV4202,FV215b and FOCH 155
my was e100 then grille, jgpze100, t62a and finally deathstar
@fallow shoal lol mine too ,it takes forever to train the crew without boosters and premium time
@gaunt mountain how is grille ,I want it
a lot of fun
My top 5 favorite tier 10 tanks 5th obj268, 4th french autlolader heavy (forgot name), 3rd is7, 2nd chinese med, 1st stb1
Love me some pekaboom pseudolight
Is it rantable to go to french after amx elc bis sorry frenches name are hard
Lites
tbh im disappointed in jgpze100. would change it to almost any other tier 10 tank
I was about to say amx 50-120 lol but i think that is tier 9 french heavy
50B
So ?
???
Frenches lights
@jaunty nymph you mean the AMX 12t ,AMX 13/75 ,AMX 13/90, BAT CHAT 25t AP,and BAT CHAT 25t
Yup
I heard that tier 6 and 7 are crap
6 and 7 are more less the same tank
@fallow shoal same gun
Say is it good buying two tanks ?
Both are the same
Ok i think im gonna stop et t5
Tier 7 French TD it's crap when stock and expensive to do ,I call it drama tank
But 8-10 is really nice if u max it
Tier 4 it's a tumour on tracks
@minor mica premium ?
But T7 is OP, if fully upgraded
tier 8 is crap
Dont dis the french hetzer lol jk @dreamy lantern
@jaunty nymph the one on sale
Yea
105mm gun with more pen higher firerate and less despersion says otherwise @dreamy lantern
Well it has 175 pen so if you don't spam gold against tier 9 tanks you are doomed
Never been on russian lol
@fallow shoal but the slower mobility ,crap gun ark ,the tumour and the crap armor are saying otherwise
-3-
it has its ups and downs
More downs in my eyes
But as far as i know it will keep its 105mm in the update unlike the hetzer
Tier 5 it's like fresh bread ,I did multiple 2.5 games,even stock it's super good
The 90 mm tears everything apart and boy what a gun ark
The tier 5 is competitive reguardless of the gun u use
@fallow shoal agree,and the mantlet it's as big as Versailles palace so it bounces a lot
Wargaming here my prayer..... Plz buff camo on grille🙏🏻🙏🏻
Friends, what're your opinions on the KV-4? Fighting it, I feel no threat...
ST-1 seems super appealing tho
I love the kv4. Its a good sidescraper and you get a lot of bounces in it. Ram if u can🙃
So, just throwing that in there:
If it wasnt intentional, what crackhead is responsible for the WZ-120 Chinese TD balancing? No offense pls be understanding.
Killed it easily in a Lowe
Well its not really cool if you play in CW and the guy knows what he is doing
I.e. using the insane gundepression(for a tank of this kind)+
SU-152. DERP gun or the other one?
Friend says other one. I say... DERP. DUH. Much fun.
About to get tank and need to know.
There’s a reason it’s called the Su-152
^^ that
Yeah it’s called Samokhodnaya Ustanovka because it was a self-propelled gun
Is the vk 30.01h any fun at all when it's max, or is it even any good?
It's a solid tank as long as you play cautiously and mount the Waffe
@long jungle st-1 is a horrible stock grind but amazing when max and top tier in a battle, using calibrated shells you get 375 heat pen and 275 ap pen
ST-1 was a horrible grind in my memory
But well worth it
Is it worth 10 000 gold for the T-34-3?
Grind both lines simultaneously to unlock guns on both Russian heavies @long jungle
@haughty void depends. What are u looking for in a premium tank?
@narrow rampart I'm not planning on getting that gun, I want the gun on the vk 30.01m and grind to that as fast as possible but it will take ages in a tank I find so bad and slow
Waffe is epic. The VK 28 uses it too and it pens anything you will face at tier V
@lament smelt, VK 30.01H was my favourite heavy. I liked the longest gun on it. But WG removed a vew guns on it and now in 5.5 it gets removed from the Tech Tree. Rip vk
But it only has 7 mm more pen than the other gun, and that gun is on the tank after it so I don't see why get the waffe
The VK 30.01H loses the top gun???
@void basin it's being removed entirely
Oh, I forgot that they’re also balancing the tanks to be removed
Nani?! @lament smelt
@narrow rampart, Well, my only tier 8 premium is the IS-5 and I don’t have tier 7 premium tanks and only one tier 6 prem tank: SU-100Y. The others are lower tiers. So I want a premium tank in tier 8 if it’s possible and the tank must be pretty strong and good to carry in. I can finally get 10K gold if I sell all of my collectible tanks.
@narrow rampart do you know what is happening to the r35 in update 5.5, it is becoming tier 1 but it is already op with its armour at tier 2 so at tier 1 where you can't even use prammo it will win a 1 Vs 7
So what caliber gun will it have then? A worse 88 or just a 75? @lament smelt
Bob, it will be nerfed
Hows the E 100 guys?
E100 is amazing @solid gate
@haughty voidjust buy the löwe and save loads of gold and get loads of glcredits from it
Hows the Maus?
@lament smelt the long gun has good stats indeed but it also lowers turret traverse very much
Hmm, I already go for the VK 100.01 (P), so I don’t need 2 big german heavies
@haughty void but will it's armour be reduced
I dont know about that
Well guess I have to buy back the Tiger P and VK 45
Maus is pretty good, but you need to have patience and be careful @solid gate
Niiice im on my way to get both
@lament smelt no info on that sorry
I’m not sure if the T-34-3 is worth the money, because it’s almost the same as a T-34-2...
The E100 is better for general use but in terms of bouncing and being a bully the maus is better @solid gate
Yeah i always thought the Maus was a specialized vehicles
@haughty void If you like rage inducing derpy, REALLY long reload soviet 122mms so you can be pelted from all signs, then yea its worth it
Ow, okay than
i strongly advise against it, especially at that price
At least it looks great 😛
^
Hmm, maybe you’re right about that, I guess.
I’m tempted to buy it just cause of that low aim time and how it looks but oml it’s other stats are horrendous
Prepare for ragefest
ragefest heatfest
Solace, T-34-2 has that short aiming time too on the 122mm. Its a faster tank with less armor.
O
I haven’t really looked at the chinese med line cause the 121 doesn’t seem too exciting
heatfest Awkward stats for vehicle type-fest
However, T-34-3 does makes more credits (cause premium tank) and looks better IMO.
Hehe
well, its your funeral money
people seem to talk a lot about soviet and Chinese vehicles why doesnt the community talk less about the German Nation?
Because russian game and russian tanks OP af
Well, cuz memes and Russian Bias (the bias is a little weaker with the Chinese but still there)
I don’t think theres any chinese bias
@haughty void Belarussian*
eh i get you. But hmm whats the use of German tanks then?
cough cough WZ-tankdestroyerthingy-FT
OH
German has the best looking tier X heavies
lol
forgot that...thing...exists
wb britain tho @haughty void
is it because theres nothing particular about german tanks and because their all very balanced?
The chieftan is gorgeous and the fv looks pretty ok
if you see that ugly af tall as a skyscraper american goose of a tank, BUY IT
really?
It’s probably just cause alot of russian tanks have trollish armor that infuriates people, whereas german tanks have alot of flat sides @solid gate
nice i thought so.sigh
that thing has 240 mm frontal armor
and an even better gun mantlet
When I first started my account I thought I was going to only play german tanks, but eventually i gave into the temptations of other lines
now if we introduced the Strum Tiger now that would get people talking about Germany he he
You can shoot the cheeks and the ring but they are hard to hit when wiggling
@solid gate The SturmTiger (nerfed edition) already exists
Heavily nerfed edition
its the fckin vindicator
the sturmtiger mixed with a bulldozer mixed with a little scifi
the Vindicator should just be called JUST GET THE SU
@torpid charm IYO whats the most underpowered premium?
@lament smelt yeah ,I loved it,pure pleasure to play ,very good AP rounds and stupid APCR (just in case you need more than 200 of pen at tier 5 because why not(
Fcm36pak40 the WORST prem that existed.
Marder -
thats a stong pick
vindicator is disgusting it needs to be Germanized to be fully recognized as the undistingushed and unrivaled firepower in wotb
Probably the blaze @solid gate idk anything about tier 5 and below premiums
yea blaze is trash
but ofcourse i real strum tiger would be so op
also the Churchill VI
I think fcm36pak40 is worst tier for tier
The whole "Premiumize but fit the stock gun" Technique worked for the Crom B, but DEFINITELY not the Churchill VI
FCM36 pak 40?
Nope, Pz. IV Hydro. is the worst and being nerfed
Pz IV Hydro is an actual tank in game?
Yep
who should I use for my ticket next year...
what!?
Im shot between the Shinobi and CDC
i never heard of that tank in wotb
Ive herd the FCM stinks so bad that it has an eject button in its turret. Low tier premiums (sub 6) isnt a investment in the game id make anymore.
I sold thm both like a nub
Oml i just checked and the hydro’s dpm looks abysmal @keen mantle
Shinobi is Chi-Nu-Kai
@solid gate Shinobi
^
Hydro has the same dpm as the normal Pz. 4
oh CDC is a sad tank to be honest
people who play with them are always usually the first to die or the last person carrying the entire team
I used mine this year for the BT-SV so i can sell it fpr gold
I heard it has a BROKEN credit efficiency
CDC is average
Pz. V/IV is one of the best tanks at tier 5 imo
i heard some peeps were getting 200k a battle no birthday
Definitely @keen mantle
ye, does it boost credits?
Pz IV/V?
I learned how to play the game in it after diving into a stock Ferdinand grind as my first tier 8 @keen mantle
V/IV has bad credit coefficiency because for premiums (the non premium III/IV beats it) but it has great frontal armor
aww
What do you think of the cromwell B ?
I bounced so many Kv-1 shots in it just from angling
Cromwell 🅱 is op
yep not to mention its pretty darn fast
Japanese heavies are amazing.
hmm... leo or fv4202?
Pz. V/IV is fast (literally a better power/weight ratio than the normal Pz. IV) and has basically the same dpm ( I think it's like 2 less lmao)
@gaunt mountain Type 5 better.
thats not the question
FV4202 is what I'd say because HESH
4202 @gaunt mountain
is it better for scouting?
@gaunt mountain Leo more DPM and better gun dispersion values ,faster and more paper thin ,FV stronger all around armor ,HESH
its a premium tank ofcourse the pz iv/v is better then standard
4202 is a more forgiving drive and only slightly worse in gun and mobility stats @gaunt mountain
Pz. V/IV is a soviet spy because there's no way it should be that good
Although both should essentially be played the same
nah its german its just advanced for its time
@solid gate Cough Panther/M10 cough Panther it's better cough
I forgot about the thing that is the fake American tank
The war crime in tracks
thats higher up a tier ofcourse its better what do you mean? Isnt it a higher tier tank? Because its a real unfair comparison to match a panther /M10 to a Pz IV/V
“How do you do, fellow M10s?”
Current main tourney tanks in tier 6 are the ARL 44, KV-1S, AMX 12t, Cromwell 🅱, and T-34-85 right
If you count a team of 7 KV-2s
KURO it's also good
wdym by current main tourney tanks @keen mantle ?
like the tanks that mainly get used in tier 6 tournaments
oooh i see
also yeah I forgot the Kuro Mori Mine which is borderline op imo
Kuro is not op
Kuro the golden boy for Tiger 1s
Kuro has decent mobility, armor, and a good gun, I'd argue it competes at about tier 6.4 balance wise
but hey its premium
yeah but I got mine for free
I would say if you know to sidescrape it's a 6.8 more like
what by a crate?!
@keen mantle me too
nope event on an XP grind, just put in like 5 hours over a week
@solid gate it was an event
awww any chance that ll happen again?
Not sure sorry
idk but I literally had a week and got the tank with less than an hour a day
I would like to see that premium Jpanther
inb4 premium GuP Maus
Lol😂
imagine a premium version of the Maus
oh sorry, i mean “enriched vehicle”
they should sell that as a legendary camo like legit people would buy that
Kuro Mori MAUS
^I definitely would
inb4 GuP Karl Geratz
They should do a legendary camo for Leopard 1
Kuro Mori Mine is actually the school not the tank fun fact
What bothers me about the maus’ current legendary camos is if you look down the gun barrel the color is the same as everywhere else
They could call it "predator" or "general"
i hate the predetor
They could make a white kinda camo and call it the “Snow Leopard” @dreamy lantern
oooh O.o
Sherman V has great potential in tier 5 after 5.5 buffs it
@torpid charm cool idea
snow lepord. Sounds cuddly
I am collecting free xp so I can unlock modules on grille line ,when in hit 100k I will buy Nashorn back so I can grind Emil
oh i see
Like imagine this @dreamy lantern
@torpid charm oh God ,What a blessing 😍
Vk45b @solid gate
ok thanks solace
Stock
VKB*
No u thirsty boi @solid gate
hahahah
@torpid charm lol I tought you Canadians are super polite and stuff 😂
oh well 🤷♂️
Stuff happens right ?😂
theres some stange tanks out there and surprisingly some worked well thats my theory
any chance the Obj. 279 will be in the game?
You want the Blyatmobile?
lol
I want the obj 277 medium heavy light tank
@keen mantle you mean the 268 V4 TD ,super medium light?
no I want the 277 50 kmh heavily armored scout tank with a 130mm gopnik gun and a turret made of recycled vodka bottles infused with Stalin's mustache hair
lol
@keen mantle I want the ehm,nothing so far
But everything that has sick DPM has trash gun handling
you know what vehicle i want? jjajajajja
the Landkreuzer p.1000 ratte !!!
"sick dpm is bad gun handling" enter russian mediums.
@keen mantle I would love the Charioteer too
Charioteer would absolutely wreck man
are there any tier X premiums?
yep
And it also looks super sport and modern
Charioteer is literally a Cromwell with a (much) bigger gun and less turret armour