#vehicles-discussion
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OMFG
IM DONE
I'm done too
see u l8r on the battlefield savage i can't do it anymore
U guys dont see thecresults anyways
You guys still talking about it? I already quit and went to play League ๐
No point
@slender perch u should stay playing league
no panda
this is rarted
I'm in queue ๐ฆ
U plebs can't even kill a dw2
How much would u like to bet?
It is balanced
50mm of armor
agree with him
since it looks like he is always correct
It be lookin hell anoice
Only thing good is the gun and sidescraping capabilities
it be looking like a rolling tumor
I need to chat with the Wg developers
Talking with u high tier plebs is like talking to a brick wall
and experience
still getting 24,950 gold ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Barely
I'd legit sell some of my higher tier premiums back for gold if I could ๐
@slender perch low key why do I have IS-6
like kpz70
Experience I agree but sees future results no
I have 2 Is-6
iyus
Panda bought the fearless ๐ค
I c
@pulsar sinew lurking reveal
Fake news
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It was GRIMs wallet
i C
Uh i have a jumbo that i was gonna get a t29 heavy with but uh seems like 5.5 might destroy that dream ?
You get gold for it now
But im gonna have to start the med-heavy line again aint i ?
Can always drop a $5 and free xp T29
True
(:
i wish i could trade my is5 for any tier 8 prem
Lets throw a funeral for the Jumbo and M3 lee
Can't be mad about free gold
@slender perch wot tier 10 comp tank should i free xp to
kk
Foch
Oh yus
2 man Foch platoon very nice
113 or is4
I might just go for 113 cuz IS-4 is just noobwagen 100
List of good tanks for tier 10 comp?
113 is more fun, but less forgiving.
Heavies: 113, 50B, IS-4/7, Maus
Mediums: 140/62, E50M, Leo, STB
TDs: Foch 155, 268, E3, 183
Light: Batchat
May have missed some, but those should be the majority.
Checks out to me
Would u consider leo 1 a necessity?
its rather inflexible
@slender perch 268 or e3?
268 for sure
268]
Ok ms-1 it is
Exactly
Yes, 268 @crude hull
@crude hull and the ms1 is a thicc boi
Wadaaa
r u saying that g class is not a good car for family
Naaaaaah
Naaaaah
G class for family
As much as I love cars, stick to tanks please
Oki dok
Off topic is a good place
Wrong vehicles discussion ๐
Something like that
M4A3E2 is a beast in mad games
Wonโt be soon
Well. It will still be there
Isn't it getting nerfed?
It's going as a collectable
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Not seen any nerfs tbh on them
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Yes
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Yes
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Was lazy to check Blitzhangar, now I'm curious
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Lol
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Chaffee is doo doo in Tier 5, why would it be good at Tier 6 now
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Facts @dull wigeon
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And pen buff
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False
^
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Define "the best player"
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Meh
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Was hoping you would say aces
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:(
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Rename WZ 120 FG w/e the name is to Legal Seal Clubbing
@slender perch what about โCandy Stealerโ
Works too
Lol
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Lies
Stop it @dull wigeon You're making our stats feel bad
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Lol
I should report you
Do it
Moderators will do
Ah
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Uh
Hi guys
Uh
Looks like i cant buy my tiger I yet
Im branching off the tiger (p) to the I and uh... yeah im poor... uh...um... yeah... i researched the I with a stock P so uh... donate pls
Lemme get this straight
They totally made up the vindicator right? And they put it in the game
from Warhammer 40k
so yes and no
made up as in fictional
but is "legit" as in imported from that universe
A lot of these tanks are โfictionalโ. They never made it past the drawing board or even just a sketch on a napkin.
BUT Then we have the strumtiger which is a real life tank and it's almost the same as the vindicator so then why they just put the strumtiger in the game as a premium tank make it 20k gold
We had the T49A
Eww arty
Do it it's pretty much the vindicator
Sturmtiger was a SPG
This is an Arty free game. No dirty button clicking, cheetoh eating 1 handed playing here.
183 is something you'd use to crack open bunkers
And... They used the kv2 for that also
Regardless of what you think, this topic has been hashed for the last 4 years. The game will never have Arty.
And thatโs a good thing ๐
I think you're kind of misinterpreting the topic
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Honestly
Like boi make the thing a td pleaseeeee
I would love to spend money and get it
i think we have enough derp guns
Enough is not enough when you really don't have enough
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Thus guy be using mods but hey it looks nice
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Never got the hype people have over the Sturmtiger, yeah it had a big "gun" but thats really about it, what would it add that other tanks already do?
I mean, at least the KV-2 was used in a combat fashion, not well but still used.
Then what did the Sturmtiger do? It fired into Warsaw and had a GI climb into the barrel
But it saw action and it's wasn't that much of a failure just look at the Ferdinand
The transmission was wack and the engine caught on fire like boi
I feel like that would be a tier 7-8
It would do like 800+ dmg but only have Heat
And have 200 m/s shell velocity
Yes and I miss you @manic grove
Its "action" was firing into the Warsaw Uprising, everything else was just road failure
Im pretty sure there is video of the Sturmtiger firing into Warsaw actually
good enough? xD, gj very balanced
@solid gate there was a Sturmtiger captured in Ardennes region too iirc
@dull wigeon @modest tangle damage is one thing for defining best player
But just that is not enough. I can't find it anymore but jylpah made a good post on stats and how they relate to WR
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Players with high avg dmg but low spot usually lose more game because they get the dmg in the end of the game
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High spot often means Yolo in the beginning and thus lower WR.
The sweet spot (pun intended ๐ ) when it comes to spotting is around 1.5 to 1.6 average if I recall correctly
#meadsyOP
Lol
Has a nice rhyme to it as well
Lol i am the ๐ฅ
I'm still trying to find out if there is a way to find out what's the highest amount of aces someone has
Per tank?
No
Grand total of aces per tank?
Number of different tanks
Not me ๐คฃ
Wow nice
Still a few tech tree to go
I am not gonna tell i only got 15 ๐
Lol
I now own everysingle tech tree tank that is going to be removed
I own all also. Including the premiums
well @modest tangle i dont think black prince need a nerf
i did try it and dont like it because its so slow
hard to do good avg damage with that speed
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@modest tangle OMG u insane animal! 325/325 aces? thats more than blyatiful๐ ๐
Big oof
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T-22 looks like an IS-8 lol
That hull tho
It looks like it has the M62 gun
And the turrets look very similar
The sides arenโt tilted tho, itโs a different chassis. No pike nose
Ya know what it screams of to me? Rart.
Why?
If it actually has a 122mm with 340 HEAT pen, even at Tier X, Iโm buying it in a heartbeat
Never mind
Standard Russian 100mm
Apparently in WoT PC, itโs a Tier X Soviet medium
I miss you too come back @median notch
but but i had 2900 avg and 2.0 spots in t10 and only 59wr
@manic grove I can't:( ur leader hates plus I been in this clan for a long time and I kinda missed it when I left
;(
Chi-to needs a buff
I hope the new tier X med isn't a premium
Most likely will be but who knows ๐
if it's easy to get, i like it ๐
I'd suggest to find your wallet and credit card then
I want more tenks to grind make a techtree tank dammit
Sick of tanks that are only obtainable via crates constantly
Swedish tanks are coming next year and the Czechoslovakian TVP @woeful ibex
O tvp sounds just up my alley
Which line TD or Heavy?
@crude hull there have been tanks sold with out crates too
Ik
Both @crude hull
Ah ic
@crude hull probably not
I haven't seen any line in Blitz yet where TD shares suspension with meds or heavues
Guns? yes
Engines? Yes
What till Twister Cup for WG to probably confirm plan 100% for next year
Suspension, I can't recall
He means that system on pc where certain Swedish TDs go into siege mode
I mean there's already a system for extra "consumables" so it might be possible
I hope it happens
Maybe
TDs ๐ easy work
What I really want is unique tanks for clan wars achiements
I don't see a reason why they shouldn't add that suspension system
Console got it too
Ya
It would require an extra button though and I was told in Minsk that adding a button for hull lock was out of the quesstion due to screen clutter
Yet, I think hull lock could be a useful one
Make it optional, like look out bar and second fire button
Well when u think about it, they already have the space for modifications
Like for mad games
I mean they could just stick it in where the 4th consumable or special power of mad games sits
Not like anyone complains about that
Fk someone already said this
Mad Games is probably part of the test for those Swedish mechanics ๐ค
@solid gate yes I was
Mmm no
Etc
@narrow rampart coming to this years twister?
Indirectly testing is a better way to put it
@slender perch idk, I doubt it
Obviously Swedish TDs donโt go invisible and fly 10000 mph
The main problem would be not how the button works but how the whole system of like making the tank change its elevation on itself
But I guess they would just have to port it from pc to blitz somehow
I might go to Twister. Depends on time and whether we get invited again
On Swede suspension, they made it work on PC and console too
So they should be able to it on Blitz
I mean yeah they should just be able to do the same thing here
Somehowb
But it will be a marginally bigger thing to do than just introduce a new tech line
When you accidentally double tap and screw yourself over
Can someone @ Me if they know of a legendary camouflage for the upcoming VK72
Thereโs been no news of it
WG havent releases a new legendary camo for tier 10 in a while, but hopefully they do soon
the jumbo is great at mad games
A legendary camo for leo1?๐ค
@woeful ibex language
Legendary camo for IS-4 pls
German legendaries please
Could we get the ability to put a flag or message on a tank?
Soonโข๏ธ
Omegalul
Any super unicum opinions on Tier 8-9 foch. Iโve only played the tier 10.
Are they worth it
I never played the 8
@narrow rampart http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/45464-blitz-stats-analysis-best-tanks-aka-delta-wr-analysis-updated-page-6/ http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/50607-how-did-v53-mm-impact-players-wr/#topmost Jylpah is my hero!
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@narrow rampart you should do some more tank chats with different Blitz personalities - modders, Jylpah, reven86, WG developers, open testers, WG community managers, community contributers, clan leaders, Twister unicums etc
Thanks for finding that post @hardy apex. I absolutely loved that one because it gives such good insights too for players to win more.
And yeah, I really would love to do more Tank Chats. Just where to find the time LOL
Heard the T-22 Medium can have some ridiculously trollish armor - i know it's soviet but still
my sides
Gun looks like the high pen one from the T-54
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's tier IX
NO cupola at all
At least that price is understandable in a way
oh and
one more thing'
if you looks closer
you can spot a place you may manage to pen with heat
if he tries to ssidescrape
T22 is op reverse sidesscraper
look under the turret
T-22Sr is big rart
I never learned to reverse sidescrape lmao I need to get the bIaS-7 for that
I mean I saw a IS-7 bounce a T57 so many times... The gun is gonna be a bit of a hassle to deal with I guess
i sidescraped once
in an 1vs.3
while i was in my is6
but i only did it inthe face of an t49 lmao
Basically nobody plays T22 because 140 and 62a gun play is superior
I mean last time I was in a 1v3 was in an IS-5 so that was a bit unfair
I won a 1v7 in my mod 1
I don't even like the tank lol
Lmao
Pretty sure my record is a 1v6 in the T25 AT
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https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/t6e1
saw this strange thing
think that was in the game for quite a while?
when browsing potential patchnotes for 5.5
never actually seen it ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
im not getting anyways because i have enough prems
Yea same
I only have like two tanks I consider actual prems and I'm pretty satisfied
T6E1 is the daddy of all Shermans. So there is a reasonable chance I'll be getting it LOL
well there's the understatement of the century ๐
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I can see you log in on your phone the moment it hits the store just to get it straight away, Martin
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lel... Madgames Hangar covers the look of Gravedigger - its actually greasy, could fit perfect into Fallout: New Vegas Add-On 'Old World Blues'
Is6 needs a buff
Understatement of the year ^
Remember the golden age when you would be the only tier 8 in your IS-6 and you could go ROFLstomp the entire red team
Pepperidge farm remembers
Ah the nostalgia
80% win rate for a platoon was the benchmark
O
remember when IS-6 was crazy good with only its 175mm 122mm D-25T?
Yea. I still use that gun cuz I need that dem DPM. E 75's though x_x
u saw an E75 with IS-3 topgun BL-9?
the same coloration of the armor
so not a big difference
E-75 are quite the best heavys
extremely strong armored but still quite agile
the gun is good, just could be loading a bit faster imo
With that alpha, itโs fair
As a soft German TD player, i hate E 75โs. Like if im in my WT, i have to usually load HEAT to pen frontally if the E75 is angling at all. They get to roll 600 and I roll 560. Itโs annoying
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sry not everyone is massaging Ribbles feet to get better matchmaking like u lolololol xD
Also since theyโre shooting HE, i get my crew and modules damaged much more often
Hahaha
mocking a superunicum per day? โ
Thanks for your cooperation
does anyone actually can get the values of the effective armor of IS-4 front and E-75?
wonder how much theyre apart or close together
On flat ground looking directly at the front of the tank --
E75: 320-330mm of effective armor
IS-4: 305-315mm of effective armor
LOL
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I'm not even joking here
The E75 actually has more frontal armor than the IS-4 according to Blitzhangar's 3D models
They both have 160mm of base thickness on the upper plate
But the E75 has a greater angle: 60 degrees
And less turret armor
mobility
But I'm still shocked
Yea a tad
E75 should have maus mobility with that much armor. But its pretty mobile
E75 op
Tier 9 heavies are perfectly balanced except e75 is better than others
E75 is my baby๐
I've always thought E75 is tier 10
Apparently it's not ?๐ฏ
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@main jacinth E75 should be having Maus movement with that much armor!
They both have 160mm of base thickness on the upper plate
But the E75 has a greater angle: 60 degrees
that would mean IS-4 should be nerfed by 30km/h and 20ยฐ of traverse - it has same thickness as E75 lol
IS-4s are a pain to deal with when i fight them
the turret is only pennable with gold
and the hull is troll
its grey but E100 heat doesn't pen
which is why I now run cs on E100
@fervent dune you can frontally pen an IS-4 turret with HEAT?
cheeks
how many mm's of pen do you need to reliably pen them?
my IS-4 with 374mm doesnt usually do it
much bhink
cant hit the mantlet
ah those tiny little spots
ez
Itโs a guaranteed pen if you hit the spot
Penned an IS4 twice in the turret with HEAT in a comp game
it is just you
is4 is a god
IS4 needs huge buff
tank ok e5 113 t57 50b can farm more damage than is4
yes
speed buff
and dpm
i think its ok
E5 is not even that good
^
it used to be ;-;
It used to be?
The only thing that changed on it is that they removed that thingy on turret
So it is better than it was
But still not better than other heavy tanks
not in my opinion
the cupola gave it a unique playstyle, but also made it very easy to troll people into bouncing on it, especially if they were shooting prammo
with the removal, E5 is 'just another heavy' now, and people aim for parts they can actually pen now
Meh. In hull down it is better
it's stronk, but definitely not as much to play anymore
It's still my most played tank, but I've barely touched it since the nerf
It can be strong on some positions but nothing special really
Introduction of more tanks and changes to others made E5 โworseโ
Simple powercreep
The only change it received was the cupola size reduction, and it really wasnโt enough
It still has glaring flaws
Weak side turret, unlike IS tanks, horrid hull sides, and pretty weak mobility
113 is good but it can not do everything
idk why but i did hate e5 a lot
but last days
i love it
i can farm big damage on it
not like before its was my worst tier x tank
but i finde fv125b worst
idk wxhat you think about it
My worst tier X is def 215b
It has the DPM but 113 has the mobility and pen. :`/
lol but many like it
yea
215B is maybe hardest heavy to play well atm, but it is gooood if you know how to use it.
i feel like its sad tank
Sure it is a killer at sidescraping and works fine in hulldown. But once that lower glacis is shown it get's penned.
Sure you have the DPM to get 1 enemy with you but most cases you ain't in a 1v1.
super conq wxill be better
It gets penned. If you're trying to use armour u r doing it wrong. IMO.
I do rely on DPM.
And it is a beast vs. Meds.
But yeah, for average player it's worst heavy for sure.
is7 is my worst tank
Is7 is everyones favourite ๐
i rather sit out on cw if i have to use is7
Only worse in linear speed
in is7 side
Alpha doesnt matter because is7 struggles to pen is4
215 has such a troll turret @fringe otter
Yes
Even turned a bit it can bounce just because of the shape
True
But e5 is easy to pen if you turn
Like shells can't really get a grip at times
E5 is more or less flat on the sides
No I change my mind FV215b is a killer!
Not as huge as the M103 though
215b is still tough to play because of how unwieldy the thing is
With huge ammorack in turret side LOL
Ye, M103 mega butter
I had to test it out after saying it is not that great. Turns out I was wrong. It is a fabulous tank.
idk guys
maybe cause you like fv215b
but i try it a lot
same like e5
and i think e5 better
But I feel a lot comes down to personal style too
Theyโre both a bit subpar considering the meta
Too much armor
E5 probably has the upper hand over 215b given the HEAT pen
It is a good tank :9
Case of Unknown makes unloved?
What do you think is better for E 100? CS or rammer?
I'd say rammer, the DPM is bad enough ๐
CS would allow you to pen a lot more tho 258mm feels a bit underwhelming in T10
@grand iris but most of tier x Heavies have the same pen
I'd still prefer cs tho allows me to do a lot more things since the dpm is already meh
Ofc imo it works for me
I'm running CS. E100 is not about DPM anyways so I'd rather have more chance of penetrating my shots than getting more shots off with less change of penetrating
Noice
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had 3.1 in is4 but dropped cuz i was bored
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same with e100 and 62a xd
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over 3k is always my goal for tier 10s
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yeah they do, but can be nerfed
@next ice where did you get it from that they are the same as premium tanks?
they're turning some premium tanks into collector ones
and i wonder if wg will remove the premium credit coefficient
wait til open test to find out for sure
will the vehicles retain their previous earning rate
idk
or will they change
So it would be jumping to conclusions when you think a collectible will make some credits as a real premium
I don;t think it will
i doubt it will either
i was talking about premium to collectible tanks at first
thats what im thinking as well
Open Test for 5.5 is over
well I am behind news
Premiums to collectibles, I think that would keep the credit coefficient
But for those lower tiers, it's petty money anyway
yeah
Difference between enriched and low tiers prems isn't a lot
only premiums and sherman V and death toaster only get buffs
I checked German and US tech tree up to V in open test 5.5
Prems are getting nerfs
I don't think Blitz Hangar has the right numbers yet
Do they still say Keni Otsu gets two shells?
yeah some low tier things are messed up
yeah
I will miss em low tiers
But trying to get wg to listen is worthless so any other mobile ww2 tank games u guys reccomend to me?
E50M? idk
i own all but the e5 anyway i find the e50m the most fun but also the toughest to play
but its still easy to play for a medium
Propably E50M, I own every other of those tanks.
Didnโt know you were on Discord
Yeah you lol
dont use it much
Mhmm
@quasi mirage such hard choices
You need to a full grind? @pearl dragon
Most of these tanks share guns with other lines so that will help
My first tier X heavy line was the E5. So feel free to check my stats on that. Not impressive at all but shows what the tank can do. All grind was done in +/- 2 MM as well
The bc25t is da beast
@narrow rampart do you know what is the final decision on otsu?
@vale elbow if Otsu refers to Kenny, and not renault, then; WG said they won't nerf it. Question is though if they'll get technical and not nerf the tank, but will nerf the shells. Haven't heard back about that yet
Tx @forest ermine yes meant my baby, keni otsu. I really hope they dont touch anything. Loss of HE is not thst big deal ofc
the shells also do less damage
but then, most tanks lose HP and do less damage
so it'll still be equally as OP if this is all they do
Also matilda does less dmg and such
Yea but otsu struggle to pen the armor, it is not the hp that is the problem
I think it should have the ACPR still
As for now
Tiers 1-2 won-t have APCR
It has never had apcr
Well I ment prammo
Only ap
So the better AP then ๐
i see like lot of you care about low tiers!!!!
Naah just one tank
T54 mod 1 is the best at its tier honestly
Nah, I'll rather play w/me free xmas present. The Type 59๐
nah, stock T54 is the best tier 9
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u mean this thing
Keke
Yeetus yeetus ur life is not completeus, just buy some Feetus
HELP!!!!! Im in need of some tips in the tier nine t54e1 I got a 33 WR with 63 battles ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ฏโ ๏ธโผ๏ธ
Jusy don't rush with it๐
Second line tank I'd say
just wait for a guy to fire and track and dump your clip
if you can take a 400 for 900 trade dew it
@winged furnace rip loll
Just skip it with free xp
Free XP certificates* 200 Free XP for 100 gold ๐
Totally worth
(Sarcasm btw ^ don't go and spam buy it ๐ )
agreed @sacred cedar
@slender perch if u buy crates u get em
Get what
the certificates
@vague berry what is that?
Odd looking turret
Patton hull?
hmm
54e1 turret
the hull that was used for the project was the same as that of the 120mm Gun Tank T43, which would later be serialized as the M103, Americaโs last heavy tank. Armor on the hull was the same. The cast โbeakโ was 3.9 โ 5.1 in (100 to 130 mm) thick.
It looks like a type 61 muzzle
even 120
4x 120mm recioless rifles
on i believe a modified(?) even 90 chassis
AMX 10-C
That frontal hull
lmao the sides
Tracks are tier 2/3 level lol
That booty tho
its italian too
-0*
indeed
theres a mk.2
although idk the details of the changes
vickers mk.4
M 636D
yugoslavian meduim tank
TH 301
argentinian meduim tank prototype
TAM
which is the light version
TAM 2C
TAA
romanian tank destroyer
tr-77-580
last tank im gonna "spam" in this channel
romanian meduim tank
nibbas how do i play 263
"yolo"wagon๐
u dont yolo
u stay in second row behind hvys and supress the reds with ur fast firing gun. the distance will help u making the most of ur almost ridiculous armor and u can enjoy the ding of their shells
Nah yolo is more fun๐
Is it just me , or are the Chinese tanks always so easy to catch fire
Grinding wz 110 and t34-1
And get ammorekked ๐ฉ
chinese quality manufacturing
performs the same as the main brand but breaks down twice as easily
@vague berry when did Romania ever sell tanks to (what looks like) Iraq?
Reconstruction of an Iraqi TR-580 in operational markings, Iran-Iraq war. This is purely conjectural as no photos or evidence of this tank in Iraqi service has been confirmed
@subtle star i never researched the part.but it says that it was possible but never any evidence
Oh
Hey guys
Any tips for using the VK 30.01 P ?
Esp for when im at the bottom of the list
@solid gate Great tank
Run the 8,8 cm
Donโt try to sidescrape
Itโs honestly pretty mobile and the gun rocks, frontal armor is pretty good
oh thank you so much ove been trying to sidescrape its been a night mare
Anyone got any tips on playing the leopard 1???
People tell me to reverse sidescrape but when I do it I keep getting penetrated
@vagrant spindle if at first you donโt succeed, try try try again
Ok ty for tips pramo
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what!? hahaha
tbh im happy because im a german vehicle fanatic
yessss the StrumTiger crushes that accursed KV2
so annoying when you play a Jg Pz iV and that blundering mass shows up with its derp and derps you to death
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Itโs a joke
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Real clip though
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Look at the stats
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1800 what!?
3900 he damage ๐
Itโs balanced because .479 accuracy
The shell is three feet wide though so accuracy is kinda relative
omg thats hillarious
Quite the Unicum guide to the lowe
ah man crazy engineering during those times.
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wait how bad is 0.479 accuracy?
Like pretty bad
at least the aim time is better than the IS-5
183 is .362
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so theres a slight chance that even when the aim circle goes all the way down it will still miss?
At like 200+
oh i see