#tank-balance-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 136

dim field Jul 12, 2019, 2:34 AM

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ISU or T49 perhaps?

tame wharf Jul 12, 2019, 2:41 AM

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T49,

the IS6 has too much russian bias and russian side skirts with russian spacing

quick lichen Jul 12, 2019, 2:47 AM

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What is redeeming about the is6 @teal olive ?

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Heat gun has trash dpm. Ap gun has terrible pen. Accuracy is always bad and its armor isn’t special

rancid orchid Jul 12, 2019, 4:19 AM

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<@&481447501690568709>.. u knoe what to do

jade cargoBOT Jul 12, 2019, 4:19 AM

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dynoSuccess jacob_o#3394 was banned

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 AM

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glare

bold dagger Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 AM

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what did i miss

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 AM

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i dont get why people still behave like fortnite kids here... The rumors shouldve spread that the mods are fast and ruthless here z02Smug

trail wolf Jul 12, 2019, 4:24 AM

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^

proud grove Jul 12, 2019, 4:43 AM

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e]

dreamy crest Jul 12, 2019, 5:20 AM

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@winged barn what about gravedigger

quasi glen Jul 12, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Gravedigger's front maybe OP to same or lower tier, it's butter to TDs and higher tiers.
Just an AMX 13 57 on steroids😂

crude pumice Jul 12, 2019, 10:21 AM

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REMOVE SPOLE-LINER from FV4005 line! it's really unfair!!!!

kind swallow Jul 12, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Is6 doesnt have same dpm as IS5...?

fiery flame Jul 12, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@kind swallow

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deft owl Jul 12, 2019, 10:26 AM

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New map looks like another corridor map with no long range sights. Well done wg.

orchid grove Jul 12, 2019, 10:31 AM

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I love how the people complaining that maps have no TD spots are the same people who complain about TD spam lol

deft owl Jul 12, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Bruh i want 183 to be buffed what are you talkin about?

kind swallow Jul 12, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Well, faster than buff I would remove 183 completely

crude pumice Jul 12, 2019, 10:46 AM

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183 need re-buff moving speed.

dim field Jul 12, 2019, 11:12 AM

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@unique scaffold
The helsing and Gravedigger are good tanks (especially when top tier) however they both have their downsides that people who face them often forget to exploit.

The helsing does do about 400 but it only does so if both shots land which doesn't always work out. Given as soon as the first shot fires the second shot loses it's accuracy. There are other tanks at its tier that do roughly 400 dmg per shot though they have longer reload times. However that's balanced because it's 2 round where one round can easily miss. It's armor is only good from the front when it's a little hulldowned and the front of the turret is pretty good aswell. However it's throat is pretty weak and it has terrible turret traverse speed which makes it an easy target to circle. It can try and get around this by turning the hull while turning the turret but that exposes it's sides and thus can je taken advantage of.

The gravedigger is a good tank (really good against tier 6) but it also has its weaknesses. A tier 1 can pen it from behind and it also has a lower plate that can be penned. It can deal some damage but only of it can fully dump it's clip into someone. It's a big boi so a person can easily see it coming, peak out and hit it hard then pull back into cover to reload while the gravedigger either sits back and wait for you to peak again or try and move it which you'll possibly be reloaded by time it makes it's way over. It can give tier 6 a rough time but since tier 8's can slaughter it they cancel each other out.

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Jesus christ, did you written it by urself?
That's alot of work...

tranquil nova Jul 12, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Unbelievable..🤦🏻‍♂️

whole nebula Jul 12, 2019, 11:23 AM

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Lupus, elevation buff. No ones using it

clever void Jul 12, 2019, 11:31 AM

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@whole nebula because it’s so OP it’s not even a challenge to play

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 11:35 AM

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@pulsar flame English only please

fiery flame Jul 12, 2019, 11:53 AM

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@whole nebula if you think that the lupus needs a buff you are clearly playing it wrong

wet quail Jul 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

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😂 buff the lupus? Get off the drugs bro

meager spruce Jul 12, 2019, 12:05 PM

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^^^ that is good advice

random fiber Jul 12, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Buff Kpfpz 70 please. The reload time is to long. The most new tier 8 Tanks and premiums and tier 9 or X Tanks shot two times in his reloadtime.

crimson cosmos Jul 12, 2019, 1:40 PM

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^^^^^^^^
This please. All the upper Tier auto loader tanks got reload buffs. But a tank that desperately needs it gets nothing but .l.. yet again. Long reload with mediocre gun depression plus armor made of weak points is not balanced by vaguely decent mobility.

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I'd rather it got better gun depression.

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Gun depression would be very nice, amd it would be great if they removed the awful lump on the side of the turret

clever void Jul 12, 2019, 2:25 PM

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@distant river that lump is not a hit box. You don’t take dmg from it being shot is my understanding

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 2:33 PM

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It shouldnt be but it is and you do take damage, its shown on armour inspector and everyone shoots it. Pic is in #screenshots

It can be hidden at close range but when you are trying to work a ridgeline (despite your depression) it gets shot a lot

clever void Jul 12, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Then I’ll have to start shooting it 🤔. I’ve had bad luck against them if the player is competent

topaz geyser Jul 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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SU100Y needs a legendary camo

meager spruce Jul 12, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Which changes the name of the tank to "The Box"

zenith sand Jul 12, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Yes

cunning vapor Jul 12, 2019, 3:11 PM

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What the kpfpz 70 actually needs is an HE damage increase. It usually does lesser damage than AP

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Buff the is-3 defender armour and to balance it out maybe take away those really heavily armoured 2 panels that it has in the front

topaz geyser Jul 12, 2019, 3:23 PM

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@full dew the armor isn’t so bad the problem is the gun

wet quail Jul 12, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Pls don’t buff the armour

queen mason Jul 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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@desert hamlet I can see where your coming from but if the IS-3D had a good gun or even decent, wouldn’t that ruin the part of russian heavy guns?

desert hamlet Jul 12, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@queen mason tanks either have amazing gun handling or are too fast. All is3d has is the auto reloaded and troll armor.. Gun is pathetic

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 4:20 PM

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So you want to buff a tank that is already blatantly better than the tech tree variant...

winged barn Jul 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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The kpz feels like it had a HE pen buff, but I dont remember this actually happening.

clever void Jul 12, 2019, 5:22 PM

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It simply has a huge rng spread. If your lucky it will feel like a BL-10 somedays

hearty hawk Jul 12, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Kv-2 should have a sec less on reload

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Funny
But no.

hearty hawk Jul 12, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Funny
But yes

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 5:40 PM

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It should have 20 sec more on reload

KV2 has super high alpha for its tier. It should not have decent dpm and decent HE as well. Its 152 should be removed or the whole tank should be removed.

hearty hawk Jul 12, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Kv-2 is very balanced as itself it's reloaded is what makes a weak because once it shoots you can rush it and destroy it so it doesn't need remove and it's really balance

nimble zodiac Jul 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

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KV-2 can dish someone to their garage in 21 seconds and that's crazy, a 160 five shots MAX can be dumped before KV is reloaded but only does ~800 which doesn't destroy it

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

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If anything, kv2 should be removed from the game (along with fv183 and smasher) and replaced by t150

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How about you don't just sit in front of a Kv2

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I love how anytime someone points out the legitimate issues with the kv2 someone has to say "don't park in front of it" 🤦‍♂️

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Then even pre nerf t 49 was well balanced, you just simply had to never meet it in game

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Buff the HE on the wt, 85 pen for a 150mm gun at tier 9 sucks really, ru 251 has like 100+. Give the wt at least 100 because really no one uses it due to that horrible pen. At least make it useable on the heavies rears
So what it's not HESH? The charioteer has like 240 on HESH so I'm asking no where near that. At least give it more than a tier 8 90mm gun.. it's not rocket science
Wait they nerfed the charioteer yeaahhaha

azure tiger Jul 12, 2019, 5:58 PM

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It’s not HESH si no

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 5:59 PM

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@unique scaffold is absolutely correct. The KV-2 does not make any sense in the revised tech tree. It should have been made a collectible, nerfed, and been replaced by the T-150.

nimble zodiac Jul 12, 2019, 6:05 PM

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it's not always the gun for pen, it's the shells, which may have been designed differently

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@full dew WT needs no buff

@tribal summit KV2 just encourages people to sit back, do nothing for most of the battle, not aim at all, splash for alright damage and then you have done well for the battle. That is not good for the game.

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 6:12 PM

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So are you a wargaming dev or some tournament winning team captain to give that decision? I think you aren't in a high enough position to decide whether tanks deserve buffs or not

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@full dew you don't need to be any of them to be able to see it , just check stats of good players on it , personally I think it is best t 9 TD and it doesn't need any kind of buff or nerf

gilded pagoda Jul 12, 2019, 6:26 PM

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I want my MS-1 back ;-;

still panther Jul 12, 2019, 6:30 PM

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@gilded pagoda And put it in tier 8 (with a little buff of course)

azure tiger Jul 12, 2019, 6:43 PM

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why the t49 is a tier 8 ??? It can be a tier 9 with a big buff and it’s perfect ( add sheridan)

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@full dew hmmmm so you are asking for a buff then saying that other peoples opinions on that are invalid because they are not in a high enough position 🤔

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 6:56 PM

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I'm asking for a buff from the game's developers, not from you

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 7:03 PM

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So are you a wargaming dev or some tournament winning team captain to give that decision? I think you aren't in a high enough position to decide whether tanks deserve buffs or not. @full dew

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Are you seriously dyslexic? I "asked" for something, while you come out here and just say no like you the king of the world. Better read carefully next time

hearty hawk Jul 12, 2019, 7:11 PM

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No😂

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 7:12 PM

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You cant have your cake and eat it too
The channel is called "discussion" not buff x plz cause I want it to

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 7:23 PM

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@full dew you asked for something to be buffed, and i said it needed no buff. Then you try and tell me that i have no right to tell you that. I have the same right to opinions as you.

full dew Jul 12, 2019, 7:29 PM

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You have no right to impose the fact the WT needs no buff to me. Once again, I quote you:"WT needs no buff". Who are you to say that again?? A player like me, right? So you have the right to say "I think the WT needs no buff", not "WT needs no buff"

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 7:32 PM

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The WT doesn't need a buff.

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It is entirely competitive as it currently stands

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distant river Jul 12, 2019, 7:34 PM

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@full dew Its my opinion, and also the opinion of most other people out there. If you dont like other people having opinions then dont post yours...

wet quail Jul 12, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Wt definitely doesn’t need a buff

hearty hawk Jul 12, 2019, 8:02 PM

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True that

clever void Jul 12, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Lmao. I actually expect a nerf on WT someday

distant river Jul 12, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I expect a nerf too but judging by the stats its pretty average for most people. Personally i love it and it almos feels like sealclubbing when i play with it...

languid olive Jul 12, 2019, 10:13 PM

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M103 needs a buff in armor

slim rivet Jul 12, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Absolutely not

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Turret front would for sure appreciate buff so it would for a hulldown tank , cuz right now it is more of big medium tank

nimble zodiac Jul 12, 2019, 10:40 PM

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ehhh, just wiggle out them cheeks, it's pretty strong but not too much against tier Xs like it's kinda supposed to

red holly Jul 12, 2019, 10:41 PM

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@full dew I'm not saying your point is right or wrong, but the ru251 uses HEP, a version of HESH. This means its HE penetration will naturally be higher than most other vehicles.

unique scaffold Jul 12, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Ку

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I got through that tank ,it was painfull ,I doubt anyone play it for fun , AVG stats of good players on it are pretty bad ,it doesn't have as good gun as the conq , it doesn't have mobility to compensate for it ,then it isn't just weak against t10 stanks , it's free dmg for them

jade cargoBOT Jul 13, 2019, 12:12 AM

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dynoSuccess Artem_IloveYouCaJlo#1587 has been warned.

keen junco Jul 13, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Are we going to forget about jpz e100 HE?

toxic hornet Jul 13, 2019, 12:16 AM

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@keen junco Do you think it should be nerfed or buffed?

keen junco Jul 13, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Buff pen, nerf alpha maybe

stable flint Jul 13, 2019, 12:34 AM

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T28 proto needs a mobility buff

toxic hornet Jul 13, 2019, 12:42 AM

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What do you mean by "alpha"?

thick rover Jul 13, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Average damage on shell

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 12:49 AM

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All these people asking for HE shell buffs SMH. HE penetrations are honestly the dumbest mechanic in the game. All they do is add unnecessary RNG, there's no skill involved. Any monkey can dab the 3 key and check to see if there's a spot that isn't orange. Since Blitz has instant shell changes and hitskins, all it means is that you're just rolling dice to hit a smaller part of a tank than normal. If you ask me, all non HESH shells need to have their penetration reduced to 0mm so that they can only deal splash damage. There's legitimately no reason for HE penetrations to exist in Blitz when the only factors that balance them out do not exist in Blitz

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Wut

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with 0 pen they wouldnt do any splash damage

nimble zodiac Jul 13, 2019, 1:20 AM

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At least let HE shells exist to troll sidescrapers

shy wren Jul 13, 2019, 1:27 AM

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@olive hawk someone corrected me on this. HE splash is connected to gun caliber, not shell pen

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 1:32 AM

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so if I shot something with 0 he pen I would do damage? I c

thick rover Jul 13, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Yes splash radius is connected to gun caliber. But you can draw a comparison between 0 pen and firing at A Maus side turret armour using like T62A HE shells they are similar in that they are non penetrations. And they don't do damage

tawdry condor Jul 13, 2019, 2:04 AM

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@orchid grove then what about tanks like the Grille that have paper armor? 0 mm pen will not pen 10-20 mm armor

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 2:06 AM

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@olive hawk Pen has nothing to do with splash damage. The splash damage formula relies only on 4 variables, splash radius (a hidden stat you can find on blitzhangar) , impact distance from nearest primary armor, nearest primary armor thickness, and alpha.

@tawdry condor I don't care if the tank is paper or not. HE pens should not be a thing. Period. Even for paper tanks like the Grille, if you shoot AP at the turret, you would pen every time, but if you shoot HE, you introduce unnecessary RNG to the game by risking hitting the gun

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 2:13 AM

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You add that rng to the game with 0 HE pen as well

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 2:16 AM

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@olive hawk If you couldn't pen with HE, the only purpose of using HE shells would be for doing splash damage for things like splash out sidescraping tanks or getting guranteed resets. If you could only splash the Grille, you wouldn't shoot HE at it, thus removing that RNG.

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 2:27 AM

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You wouldnt shoot he at a grille for a reset or a kill?

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Why would you when AP will damage him no matter what (and do more damage to boot)?

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 2:54 AM

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Theres still a chance of the shell being absorbed by the tracks or gun no matter what type it is, that "unnecessary" rng is always going to be there

ember thunder Jul 13, 2019, 2:55 AM

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remove the stock gun on all tier 10 tanks...it doesnt make sense

molten trench Jul 13, 2019, 3:31 AM

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@unique scaffold where do you find the information of winrate/dmg like above?

willow hawk Jul 13, 2019, 3:42 AM

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They have removed several stock guns in tier 10. The M48 Patton used to have a 90mm gun which wreaked havoc to players’ performance. It was a tier 8 gun and players needed over 50k worth of XP to grind for the M68 105mm gun. Also, in that update, researching modules NO LONGER REQUIRE CREDITS to unlock

open mountain Jul 13, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I cant log into windows 10 version anymore. What's going on?

nimble zodiac Jul 13, 2019, 5:36 AM

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HE is a gamble, it’s not unnecessary RNG, just RNG to do more damage

thick rover Jul 13, 2019, 5:37 AM

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It's ok it's just his view

ember thunder Jul 13, 2019, 6:54 AM

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its annoying when u are in a superheavy and people shoot HE at u

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Do piče nepuštajte deti do serveru kurva to sa nedá hrať vijebany wargaming

autumn sandal Jul 13, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Fam if I were u I would delete that or expect a warn or a mute @unique scaffold

long haven Jul 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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T95E6 needs buff

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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@olive hawk The gun and tracks only act as 25mm of spaced armor on the Grille. AP and APCR cannot be absorbed by the gun or tracks unless they have some seriously low penetration (like less than 50mm low). The fact that you even believe that could happen shows how little you understand the game's mechanics

strong condor Jul 13, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Tell me that when i bounce ap from grille

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 8:54 AM

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gray aspen Jul 13, 2019, 9:00 AM

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i dont why but i dont have add to take more gold? help plz

shy wren Jul 13, 2019, 9:01 AM

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That does not account for the 3s interclip reload, so its reload is actually 7.88s with two shells in the clip, giving it about 2664 DPM @unique scaffold

As for with 1 shell in the clip, its reload is 9.20s, giving it 2234 DPM and with no shells, its reload becomes 10.53s, reducing its DPM to an atrocious 1994 DPM.

If played like a vanilla autoloader, it will deal 1050dmg in 33.54s, bringing its DPM down to 1874 DPM. If you blow your clip then fire with the clip empty, you’ll do 2844 DPM for the first minute (with the clip) before resorting to the measly 1994 DPM on the following minute

One way or another, you shouldn’t blow your clip unless you’re sure you can clear your target.

twin egret Jul 13, 2019, 9:25 AM

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I don't think Blitz Ever Had You Pay Credits to purchase modules

full dew Jul 13, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Buff the sp i c, it is absolute trash, gets destroyed by any tier 7 light/medium

shy wren Jul 13, 2019, 10:10 AM

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It’s meant to be a support light. It’s kind of fun to play to its strengths, ie the excellent camo and the powerful Mecars guns

thick rover Jul 13, 2019, 10:48 AM

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I actually like it Hohohoho

olive hawk Jul 13, 2019, 11:36 AM

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@orchid grove u rite lmao I dont need game mechanics to win

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 11:50 AM

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@orchid grove tracks can take zero damage pens though. If the round doesn’t enter the hull afterward.

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@willow hawk I don’t recall modules ever needing credits - but I do remember the stock M48 gun (ugh)

ripe oasis Jul 13, 2019, 12:34 PM

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The SP I c is amazing

acoustic shard Jul 13, 2019, 12:40 PM

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The T110e3 Would be all but invulnerable if He pen was 0 there are already Red spots if you zoom in with most HE but 0 pen would result in HE BOUNCing unless the entire way armor works was changed to make it not so.

noble siren Jul 13, 2019, 1:52 PM

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OMG autoloader for Foch this is so stupid

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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About time.

final linden Jul 13, 2019, 1:53 PM

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oh yes please this shouldve been done long ago

indigo knot Jul 13, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Yes auto loader for Foch
WTF E100 too....need more tds at tier 10

willow hawk Jul 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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@drowsy plaza it was a verryyy long time ago. Idk if I still saved the update notes on that update, but I remember that WG was very kind in removing the credit costs after researching a tank module

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Would have been pre 1.4 if it occurred

long haven Jul 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Add FOCH B with clip omg

jagged helm Jul 13, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Depends what kind of auto loader lol

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indigo knot Jul 13, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Then I guess WTF E100 will be star attraction in the Christmas event this year if the auto loader tds become player base favs

jovial dragon Jul 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I would gladly take well balanced double 640 alpha gun

spare notch Jul 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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just nerf is 4, all other tanks are fine

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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WG can't balance tanks so yeah... It'd probably be OP for an update or 2 and then nerfed to the ground

IS-4 is nothing special really

twilit crystal Jul 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@shy wren last shell doesnt have the 3 second interclip

crimson cosmos Jul 13, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Has there ever been an explanation as to why the AMX 13 57 doesn’t get Light Tank camo? Oversight? Balance? Doubling down on a stubborn refusal to admit a mistake?

The little bugger does such low dmg per shot that it has no choice but to stay exposed and try to get another hit. That makes Light Tank camo pretty darn important since it will probably be relocating very often.

nimble zodiac Jul 13, 2019, 3:11 PM

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You know the Gravedigger has the same situation but then again interclip is faster 🤔

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Pls gun 183 fv 4005

random fiber Jul 13, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Buff KpfPz 70. The DPM and Penetration is to low. I am 85 % in Tier X battles and can not pen any E100, VK 72, WZ113 and any TDs.

viscid tundra Jul 13, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Can you speed up reloading clip in AMX 12 t??

nimble zodiac Jul 13, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@viscid tundra you can play the hit n run game in the light AMX 12t, dishing out 480 and getting away. The AMX 12t is a really fun tank to play imo just because it can dump so much damage into people and just get away with it with the speed.

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 3:24 PM

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@random fiber glare

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@random fiber do you have an E100?

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 3:38 PM

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@random fiber calibrated shells and aim.

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Better yet use mobility

stoic acorn Jul 13, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Nerf all non premium tanks

thick rover Jul 13, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Lol

shy wren Jul 13, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@twilit crystal it’s still taken into account for the reload, it doesn’t make sense if the first shell loading into an empty clip reloads faster than the second and third shell loading into the clip.

quick lichen Jul 13, 2019, 4:28 PM

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More kpz buffs? Sheesh

random fiber Jul 13, 2019, 4:31 PM

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@unique scaffold of course. But with the good MM at the moment i had very often in enemy Team is7, is4, e100 and Jp 100. In my teams is Grille, WT, Amx 50 B. So no Chance and perfect lose. With a little more pen and dpm it is a little higher chance to win. If not Buff Canon buff armour.

quick lichen Jul 13, 2019, 4:33 PM

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The kpz is completely fine. Learn how to play it

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Tier 9s are supposed to be weaker than tier 10s

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Also. You can take the rigged mm complaints to another server. No one wants to hear it

noble siren Jul 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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lol

jade sparrow Jul 13, 2019, 4:39 PM

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lol

random fiber Jul 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Its not completely fine since the last 2 or 3 updates. That is my opinion and there a some players who share it. And i know how to play him.

quartz steeple Jul 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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kpfz is fine more like ridiculous in tier 8 gamez

quick lichen Jul 13, 2019, 4:53 PM

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@random fiber it’s been buffed three or four times. What more do you want?

toxic marlin Jul 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Just keep in mind "Blitz is made for mobiles". Eh don't increase the size too much, if the phones can't handle it, no use of blitz. Sizes of maps should be limited to as the current maps. Resources of tanks should stay under 2.5 GB

frail thorn Jul 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Give the foch 155 its 750dpm gun! Or more appropriately the 640dpm gun since it's blitz....

pearl ether Jul 13, 2019, 5:36 PM

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What do u think about Panther poor armor ? U should help some on this tank, coz despite his excellent gun, it seems so weak, not even speaking of his poor mobility.

smoky yoke Jul 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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wow memory cards are are so cheap , buy one. just 10 -20 bucks for a 32 gbs . 20-30 bucks for 64 gbs and 128 gb is less than 40 bucks. Unless you have iphone. Where thats your fault?

white pebble Jul 13, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@smoky yoke How exactly would I get the game to install on my SD card?

kind swallow Jul 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Game asks for it

smoky yoke Jul 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Set the memory card as primary for apps to install on yea the game asks but you have to download the 100-200 mb installer on the phone first to choose if you want it directly to go to your memory card follow the video , didnt watch it but am sure it would be helpful, I have a BLU phone which sucks, Waiting for my S5 to fix.

hearty hawk Jul 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Kv-2 should get 19.8 sec reload pls

neon grail Jul 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Sp1c is ramming bait

nimble zodiac Jul 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

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KV-2 deserves 0 buffs

distant river Jul 13, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@tribal summit The gameplay of the KV2 is toxic to the game. Alpha that high does not belong in tier 6. Coupled with decent DPM and HE it is possibly one of the worst tanks for the games health. But still it is spammed because noobs cant get enough of that feeling of 1 hit killing a tank every 50 battles.

@hearty hawk Then the point of the KV1S would be what? Significantly worse alpha and HE for speed? That is too good a trade off.

fiery flame Jul 13, 2019, 6:59 PM

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If you want a buffed KV2 buy the Smasher when that comes out for sale again, that thing is OP

dim field Jul 13, 2019, 7:05 PM

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5.5 made it so people have to play the kv-2 if they want to move down the line. Which only contributes to the spam

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 7:07 PM

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True, t150 should be in tech tree and kv2 a collector

solar osprey Jul 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Ya I think like that too

distant river Jul 13, 2019, 7:09 PM

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I think everyone with experience thought that too, apart from WG

grave bear Jul 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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For every 2017+ phone game size can be 5gb without problems
because trash old devices are existing still, doesnt mean the things cant evolve because they coulndt more be used by old garbage phones.
your 4-5 years old phone has 8gb ROM, and wotb is more than 2.5gb ? well, time to buy a new phone, no? 100€ and you have 32gb phone

dim field Jul 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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T150 makes more sense but i understand the decision to keep the kv-2 in the tech tree. If they made the kv-2 a collector tank, career kv-2 players would still use it and people would leave because they wouldn't have access to it. They should have kept it where the kv-2 was an optional dead end and have the t150 lead into the next tank.

orchid grove Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Even WG knows the T150 should be the tech tree tank. The only reason why they didn't touch KV-2 was because it was too popular

KV-2 needs its alpha reduced to 560/640 (like the kpfz's 152) and it needs to have limited turret traverse

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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And admitted it

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Everyone is crying about 183's alpha but kv2 is literally more game breaking than 183
It one shots everything at it's tier while 183 does about 70% at max (on an average roll)

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@unique scaffold tbf I cry about both of them.

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I mean they're both bad for the game

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Let’s be honest. Those of us who’ve been able to play on open test can account for how hard it can be to balance a new line. The player pool is limited and as a result tank variety is limited, as well it generally has more experienced players - so some tanks that can farm less skilled players aren’t as easily identified. It’s tougher when you don’t want cookie cutter tanks.

sullen vault Jul 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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183 was still as terrible as kv2 game breaking wise before the nerf because it was sneakier and had a more reliable gun than the flip a coin style kv2 had

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Plus in tier 6 you can usually farm half the red team before a KV-2 arrives 😀

twilit crystal Jul 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Yeah pre 183 nerfed I knew where a 183 might be in the general location but you couldn't spot it until you lost 1300 hp

sullen vault Jul 13, 2019, 8:56 PM

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You can generally say that you know where all tanks should be,but it doesnt mean you're invicible to them.Which is what i dont get when people defending the 183 use that claim.

coral echo Jul 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Buff vk 72

misty zephyr Jul 13, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Kv-2 needs more hull frontal armour

unique scaffold Jul 13, 2019, 9:08 PM

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🤦

drowsy plaza Jul 13, 2019, 9:11 PM

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KV-2 needs a 5% Credit Coefficient

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That way the player winces every time they shoot.

willow hawk Jul 13, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Nope, it’s bad now in my opinion

sullen vault Jul 13, 2019, 9:28 PM

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It's pretty bad since the reload isn't competitive now.

coral echo Jul 13, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Its only bad because u guys were used to it being op

grave bear Jul 13, 2019, 9:34 PM

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-_ same alpha damage , reload time and hesh pen as tier X med tank fv4 = "cOMpEtITivE tAnK"
now the tank is balanced, its just not Broken op. if you do bad in it its because you're a bad player, and before did good only because was broken op.

sullen vault Jul 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Never said those three things made it a good balanced factor.but when you remove dpm on a paper tank with low hp pool and being a fat target,its gonn have a rough time with everyone spamming he at it.

grave bear Jul 13, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it has still nice dpm lmao, and HE proofness

hearty hawk Jul 13, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@distant river don't be so toxic about it lol

frail thorn Jul 13, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Kv2 needs WOT alpha, 750/1200. 😤

sullen vault Jul 13, 2019, 10:12 PM

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2.3k is average,although i find the he proofness to be ineffective on that tank rather than something like the fv4005 for the main reason of its low hp pool,you are still a 2 shot to 155 cal,and 3 shot to 120.Even then you're still limited with no armor unlike something with the cent where alot of the times you can be aggressive with your gun because of your armor.the charioteer was broken because you'll always win a brawl because of the aforementioned 3 things that made it broken.

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Lmao GG on the charioteer nerf, nerfed it to the ground and then shoved it 6 feet down

hearty hawk Jul 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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AMX 50 100 better than charioteer

grave bear Jul 13, 2019, 11:08 PM

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what about BatChat 25 t nerf? im seeing 2 of them every Damned battle, running for7 mins for all the battle spotting and snapshooting everyone, and my smart allies cant even hit it

grizzled sleet Jul 13, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Would love to see an alpha buff, 350 for the 105mm not 100mm

white pebble Jul 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I think the black prince is really in need of a nerf. It is among the best armored among its tier, it has a great dpm and its mobility isn't a complete snail (with the track upgrade it has 105% speed on roads, whereas the tiger P has only 80% for example, which practically evens out the speed difference.
But especially its armor. The sides are strong as hell, and the front only has very small weak spots, which are easily hidden by standing a bit angled, which makes the track cover practically all of those. There is no real cupola to aim at since that one is really low. And then it deals 160 damage each shot with a reload of only just over 3.5 seconds of reload.
This combined, the tank is just insanely strong, and this makes it feel real op.

hearty hawk Jul 13, 2019, 11:31 PM

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@white pebble do you say this because you die a lot to it because you never flank or? Also it's supposed to have strong side armor, it's one of the tank specialties about it

wise dirge Jul 13, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Have you ever considered not sitting in front of the thing for an extended period of time

latent snow Jul 13, 2019, 11:47 PM

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The bp is good against teir 6 and 7 but is useless against teir 8 unless you have prem rounds

safe copper Jul 13, 2019, 11:53 PM

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T-34-3 buff

deft owl Jul 14, 2019, 12:26 AM

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So we are getting autoloader for foch 155?

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 12:32 AM

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@safe copper yes

safe copper Jul 14, 2019, 12:32 AM

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It needs it

indigo knot Jul 14, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I sometimes feel that Positive hates big guns in the game as he is a Batchat lover....lmao

kind swallow Jul 14, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Well, I would remove all td's to become game more interesting and faster, but some people would be a little bit angry
Or just remove all camping places...
But it's just theoretical, and kinda 4fun opinion

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 12:48 AM

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TD balance game

indigo knot Jul 14, 2019, 12:52 AM

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If Tds were removed game would be no fun at all...everyone would be running all around the places with no one having fear of getting derped and Hts with good armour would be too strong to handle
It is Tds that balance those fast and pesky tanks as well as those stronk ones too but the problem is no one is there to guide the players about when to camp or when to move(most of the new players choose their first line according to the history(Tiger Shermans etc) or the big alpha guns because they they are fun to play when you have just joined (who won't love one shoting a same tier tank or reduce it to 5-10% of it HP pool)
Thats coz you are experienced player and you know these things @uneven surge
But what about those new players with no one to guide them sitting in there 183s Jags or even in E100s and Is7s sniping
Now there be must many thinking that YouTube is there for tutorials but its just a game at the end of the day and not everyone is interested to watch those tutorials on YouTube which is actually WGs job to provide in game

uneven surge Jul 14, 2019, 12:58 AM

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lol u cant just stay in one spot to snipe
if he was a batchat lover he should be able to dodge shells instead of blaming the big guns
like you cant blame the tiger for funning to fast cuz you are a goat lover,its natrual selection if the goat excapes or not,like the unis did in the batchat,excaping from the tiger.

spark star Jul 14, 2019, 1:01 AM

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lmao batchat nerf
yeah lets nerf the only current light tank in the game and make it severely useless
it really should be noted that batchats can only do good with good players
@grave bear
so instead of asking a nerf to an already high floor tank how about you
learn to aim

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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i never said i cant hit batchat @spark star, just for saying im super unicum
plus batchat is too good, the fact that you need to be a good player means nothing, a good player can do good in all tanks, but in the batchat will do way better.
the batchat is just leading the whole battlefield, being untouchable since its the only light tank at that tier. add some other light tanks to counter it, or nerf it.
A team without batchat cant be matched against a team
with a batchat.

so... how about you learn to read?

dim field Jul 14, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Tds punish bad positioning and yoloing. They help add to the skill level of lights and meds since they give you more of a reason to actually think. Otherwise it'd be much easier to just yolo around worry free. Wouldn't mind if they added some more lights into the game. As long as they aren't high derp lights.

flat bane Jul 14, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Y'all want TDs removed? There goes over half of my T10 tanks ;-;

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 3:19 AM

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@dim field it would because in big maps only lights can spot lights, if u're a med, u're the one getting Punished by tds.

nimble zodiac Jul 14, 2019, 4:00 AM

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BP doesn’t even have that long a reload, it can drop to 3.1 with provs and GR. But still, the armor is somewhat complicated to use unless given cover and slow to get to battle. Just kill the lesser amount of heavies on red before the loner BP arrives

flat bane Jul 14, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Fv 183 needs a bigger alpha; 1200 average AP and 1600 average HESH should be good, it will definitely balanced everything. Also, decreased it's reloud.

gilded pagoda Jul 14, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Why don’t we give KV2 a seven second reload? #makestalinhappy

coral echo Jul 14, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Why give the kv a reload at all? It should always be loaded

umbral hound Jul 14, 2019, 5:57 AM

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KV2 defender, with auto loader

nimble zodiac Jul 14, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Naming and shaming I see. Anyways KV-2 is fine as it is, and I wouldn’t care if a slight nerf came to it

fiery flame Jul 14, 2019, 7:44 AM

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You nebws better be joking 👀

flat bane Jul 14, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Jg pz E100 needs an HE buff. 85mm of HE pen on a 170mm is 🤔 🤔

Wait why does grille have 75mm of HE pen? Alright.

vale phoenix Jul 14, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Hi Dear , I think T32 need buff , Reduce it reload time from 9.4 to 8.6

tranquil nova Jul 14, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Or give it T34’s gun with 13s reload, I have always wanted that gun on T32.

jade cargoBOT Jul 14, 2019, 9:29 AM

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dynoSuccess TomPL#2885 has been warned.

regal arrow Jul 14, 2019, 9:51 AM

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Cough we please fix the match making...

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 9:52 AM

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🤦

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 10:06 AM

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@regal arrow can you please read the pinned messages

regal arrow Jul 14, 2019, 10:07 AM

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@unique scaffold which messages?

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 10:08 AM

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the pinned messages maybe

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 10:18 AM

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@regal arrow the messages that are pinned to this channel.

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 10:41 AM

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In my opinion the KV-2 is a crutch tank that many bad players depend on to artificially inflate their damage numbers. The damage it can inflict is way out of line in relation to the tier that it is located in. It creates bad habits in those that play it and those that play against it and sadly these bad habits are carried into higher tiers. The tank should have been removed from the tech tree in update 5.5.

thick rover Jul 14, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Actually T-150 fitted into the line more and should have stayed while KV2 was removed. But according to support they said they removed T-150 cause KV was more popular and something special in players' hearts.

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Yup it was player opinion that kept the KV-2 in game.

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It should have been the T-150 in the tech tree.

dim field Jul 14, 2019, 11:20 AM

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They probably should have kept the t-150 and kept the kv-2 as a dead end optional branch

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 12:02 PM

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yes... to minimize ppl grinding it

deft owl Jul 14, 2019, 12:10 PM

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@tribal summit Kv-2 is fine in tier 6 but 183 isnt? Nice logic.

marble galleon Jul 14, 2019, 12:15 PM

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T-150 is the best collector tank out of the bunch and I'm so glad it is in my garage and not that bigg headed bully

distant river Jul 14, 2019, 12:23 PM

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KV2 would function fine without the 152, but then it would be played a lot less. T150 deserves to be in the tech tree and the KV2 should become collectors with 152 removed.

quick lichen Jul 14, 2019, 12:40 PM

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How are we still on about the kv2?

distant river Jul 14, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Clearly we have to have a long discussion about it because they have to balence an entire tier around it 🤷

quartz steeple Jul 14, 2019, 12:44 PM

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It's fine with the long reload I mean like 18-22 s is very long

crude kite Jul 14, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Foch need clip!

distant river Jul 14, 2019, 1:07 PM

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It has over 1.5x the alpha of the KV1S, much better HE and only 3 sec longer reload. KV1S has better speed but it has no intimidation. KV2 can easily 1 shot too many things. The simple fact is that 640 alpha does not belong at tier 6, just like 1300 HESH alpha does not belong at tier 10.

dreamy crest Jul 14, 2019, 1:14 PM

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But kv 2 had a nerf

twilit crystal Jul 14, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Yeah all the tier 6 heaviss buff often went to 86 armor which coincidentally is also the pen of the kv2

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Yeah

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Kv2 does need a nerf in my opinion

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No

lucid furnace Jul 14, 2019, 2:02 PM

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@unique scaffold yes it has a big alpha dmg but it has only his alpha dmg , no more. No mobility, no aim, no pen,not enough armor... So it does not need a nerf, it is balanced i think.

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Yes but it’s not ok when your a full hp lightly armoured tank that has carried your entire team and got 3800 dmg and 4 kills, and there is one stupid 34 hp kv2 that wipes you off the map in a second.

crimson cosmos Jul 14, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I’ll start by saying that I have no interest in seeing the KV-2 nerfed, but....

Let’s be honest about a few things. (A) The gun is dramatically OP considering its historical record. It was meant to bust bunkers, not tanks. The pen, and even dmg, of its rounds are just silly. (B) The turret should operate the same as the Fv215b 183. Fire the gun to the side and then wait till a crane comes to lift you back on to your tracks. (C) You can fill in your own here. Anything from much too high a rate of fire to unable to rotate the turret on any kind of slope.

Regardless, the KV-2 is waaaaaaay to popular on the CIS server for WG to ever touch. It is what it is. The end.

tame plume Jul 14, 2019, 2:29 PM

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probably going to get some hate but, if possible, increase the dispersion when rotating the turret and/or hull

clever mauve Jul 14, 2019, 2:30 PM

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The smasher needs a nerf

oak monolith Jul 14, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Jg Pz IV needs a DPM buff

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Kv-2 is fun and balance

hidden frigate Jul 14, 2019, 2:59 PM

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This may seem irrelevant in the midst of this particular conversation, but what does everyone think of the Lorraine, balance wise? I’ve heard some people say it’s underwhelming, and others say that it’s OP.

smoky yoke Jul 14, 2019, 3:03 PM

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What about all the tier 7 TDs that can one shot tier 6s , vindicator, su152, smasher etc etc if i forgot any. Kv2 is so easy to deal with I dont see the problem here, you bait a shot , kv2 fires boom 20 second reload. Kv2
Losses most its health and just do circle of of death.

I played amx 50 100 so it's similar just with one extra shot. Gotta say it is a great tank but only good in some hands since it has no armor @hidden frigate

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 3:04 PM

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kv2 is a joke in comparison with smasher, it can pen with heat every tier 8 heavy tank and is goddamn accurate, with very very strong turret.

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Oof, sounds like you die to kv-2 and smasher a lot

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@hearty hawk eh? i never said kv2 is strong, smasher is broken. if you say otherwise.. ↓
sounds like you can do more than 1k dmg only with smasher

ornate talon Jul 14, 2019, 3:20 PM

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yo

devout karma Jul 14, 2019, 3:21 PM

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It looks like finally there will be an auto loader for the Foch which should’ve been done from the start. I really hope it’s something like a 640 alpha 2 shot clip with like a 4 sec inter clip reload

queen hemlock Jul 14, 2019, 3:23 PM

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@hidden frigate most people who complain the Lorraine is OP, are people that are 1) experienced at the game 2) already have good stats and 3) have mastered the art of using a magazine loading tank. You can get brilliant results in it, but if you don't know how to maximise magazine potential, it's a very soft and vulnerable targert

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@devout karma I do hope you mean inter shell reload rather than reload between magazines? 😉

devout karma Jul 14, 2019, 3:31 PM

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@queen hemlock oh yep lol, that would be broken af

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 3:48 PM

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he wanted to say intra clip maybe xd

safe copper Jul 14, 2019, 4:08 PM

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If the bat chat was nerfed wat would need to be nerfed?

nimble zodiac Jul 14, 2019, 4:09 PM

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KV-2 provokes intensive camping and with a team to keep you from rushing him the KV can do whatever and keep popping shots and eventually sweep your team HP from its feet. We can just nerf the HE pen so it does DPM like the KV1S (well, not as much). I feel HE is used too much and AP is only situational, can’t a pen nerf enforce the use of AP?

grave bear Jul 14, 2019, 4:10 PM

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@safe copper engine deck armor and upper frontal plate armor
this no sense 50mm engine deck plate stronger than 90% of heavy tanks' ones sitting there just to make BC 25 t able to do some totally no sense and Roulette based bounces when he's running away and you shoot hit with a gun 15cm< which is going to autobounce on it if you're lucky enough to hit here.

gilded pagoda Jul 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Take it from the KV2 main here, I brawl in the KV2 and that either comes out with insane damage or an instant death. I’m in the NA server and my username is the same as my discord, check my KV2 stats if you want. The only KV2s that I see camping are the nubby 107mm users : ).

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Kv2 should be just simply removed cuz it is based on pure rng

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 4:18 PM

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@unique scaffold wrong look it up it's real

olive hawk Jul 14, 2019, 4:21 PM

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kv2 main...

earnest kettle Jul 14, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Kv2 is love, kv2 is derp

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 4:26 PM

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KV-2 is nub

safe copper Jul 14, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Anyone else see that I typed that hole thing up and poof, btw this 10min waiting time is killing me

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Nope I don't see it at all

gilded pagoda Jul 14, 2019, 4:33 PM

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KV2 main, I am. Have 600 battles in it, i do.

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 4:34 PM

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@gilded pagoda how is that applaudable?

jade sparrow Jul 14, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Lol

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Admittedly I am significantly concerned about the Pz58 being reward tank in the coming clan/tournaments. I mean I’m 78% in it and I don’t want it nerfed when a bunch of SU’s get it, and folks realize how good it is.

dreamy crest Jul 14, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Played kv 2 over 900 battles and it’s balanced not op, lights should watch out and see the map.

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Define balance? It’s alpha is broken for tier 6. I don’t think it’s OP, I just don’t think the alpha fits Blitz in tier 6.

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It can one shot tier 6 Meds. The 183 can’t even one shot tier 9 Meds

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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But in that case youd have to nerf the su152.. take the 152 away.

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Su152 kinda has too much damage

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 5:12 PM

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SU is a tier 7.

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And frankly it can’t really one shot tier 7 Meds

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Ammorack yeah - but not anything reliably

smoky yoke Jul 14, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I am completely opposite from the status quo. I say both kv2, 183 and any other derp tank has its ups and downs. I don't see it being op unless your versing 30-50%ers that show their butt and sides to a kv2. Same goes for tier 10 players fv183's are always in the same spots but you still push without thinking twice. Only problem is that it becomes too popular. Since it has the rewarding factor of one shotting or taking out 3/4 of enemies health

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 5:16 PM

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📎 image0.png

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The tale of 4 152mm guns tier 6-9

nimble zodiac Jul 14, 2019, 5:17 PM

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That’s actually sad at tier IX, now I kinda want to take the DPM up a bit for Kpf

drowsy plaza Jul 14, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Yes the T49 and KpfPz70 are low velocity but the tier different on HE pen and Alpha is noticeably odd

smoky yoke Jul 14, 2019, 5:23 PM

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More of being HE pen max is around 100 ,except for british HE on fv218 (not sure if its the correct name) that has 120 mm pen on HE. Bigger the gun the more capable it is at HE something. tale as old as time.

keen junco Jul 14, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Wz120 1g ft most broken t8?

earnest kettle Jul 14, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Definitely not

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 5:50 PM

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@keen junco agreed and I own it. It needs a nerf. But they wont nerf it because premium tank.

high portal Jul 14, 2019, 6:21 PM

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@fringe summit It sounds like scam

grizzled sleet Jul 14, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Lmao so was your way of balancing the char making it possibly worse than the challenger. @hearty hawk lmao they buff my T57 in quite possibly the most useless way, give the tank a usable mobility

hearty hawk Jul 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@grizzled sleet get used to it, my AMX 50 100 buff is the best

fathom gulch Jul 14, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Buff Rhm borsig its not that handy any longer

dreamy crest Jul 14, 2019, 8:18 PM

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@drowsy plaza high alpha dmg but long reload, slow, no armor, no accuracy, no AP pen, burns often

unique scaffold Jul 14, 2019, 8:21 PM

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bug?

dreamy crest Jul 14, 2019, 8:31 PM

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🐜

high wagon Jul 14, 2019, 9:10 PM

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👌

marble galleon Jul 14, 2019, 11:05 PM

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the only good KV-2 is a dead KV-2

crude kite Jul 14, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Why the 4005 a clip, but foch does not have a clip?

hollow bridge Jul 14, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Balance event: all operate an imagined tank with max numbers and only ring results to differentiate. Still players will complain of unbalanced RNG.

vapid vessel Jul 15, 2019, 12:36 AM

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@hollow bridge numbers?

twin egret Jul 15, 2019, 1:15 AM

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FV215b Heavy should get -10 depression

violet sonnet Jul 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Sure

flat bane Jul 15, 2019, 1:54 AM

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10? Lol

thick rover Jul 15, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Don't think spoiler is allowed

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 2:14 AM

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@quiet badge no spoilers here

vestal torrent Jul 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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do something for the E100 it is kind of out matched now......

nimble zodiac Jul 15, 2019, 3:06 AM

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You shouldn’t get that much gun depression for being rear-mounted and low profile on gun

muted surge Jul 15, 2019, 3:14 AM

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At 2 has to much armor

mint haven Jul 15, 2019, 3:17 AM

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nah you just aim at it's cupula

nimble zodiac Jul 15, 2019, 3:18 AM

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It’s huge, only bigger one is on AMX 30 B, but I think at least the rear armor can get a nerf, it’ll bully tier IVs

muted surge Jul 15, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Kv1 is good at bullying tier 7s

oblique hound Jul 15, 2019, 4:25 AM

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China number 1

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 5:19 AM

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People are so toxic and rude nowadays

gilded pagoda Jul 15, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Very true...

flat bane Jul 15, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Wait.. I can tell the future. Somebody is going to comment "This isn't cry about MM channel, the MM is fine, you should just do better". Or something close to that

frigid tusk Jul 15, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Bruh

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Ofc that's going to be said because all of it is true.

flat bane Jul 15, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I predicted the future yet again!

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 7:39 AM

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You ain't nothing fam

thin ginkgo Jul 15, 2019, 7:42 AM

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This isn't cry about MM channel, MM is fine noob!!!

dim field Jul 15, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Want a mode where there aren't any 40%ers on your team? Try tournaments or try making a training room

grave bear Jul 15, 2019, 10:03 AM

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is it really hard to understand for ppl that if you remove 45<% ers from the mm (basically +half the playerbase)
your wr will mathematically go down compensating the lack of %players losing, unless you're a very good player?

in short words, removing bad players will make average players the actual new bad players, and since everyone complaining about mm is just average or bad player, just be sure to know that if wg does the stuff u want to be implemented, your wr will go down into the ground 💁 🤷

white vessel Jul 15, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Carry harder

echo ridge Jul 15, 2019, 10:40 AM

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:V

twin galleon Jul 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Can Wargaming please get rid of the Smasher? It’s such a pay to win tank. It’s dmg is over the top, like 1000 dmg over the top, I’ve whipped out my IS-2 Berlin with full HP and lose 1,000 of it to smashers, or I’ll play my KV-4 and still do 1,000 dmg, it’s sooo bad for new players and old players alike. This tank honestly doesn’t teach new players on how to get better at the game. I’m sooo tired of seeing this game go to waste when it has sooo much potential. I understand the smasher has 152mm gun, I get that. But both the ISU and SU-152 both do similar dmg PLEASE BALANCE THE SMASHER. If Wargaming wants to increase their player count, then they need to reconsider implementing new ideas that benefit both players and gameplay. Thank you for your time and effort on this game WG, but please listen to us, we the players are the reason why your still in business. Please consider fixing the issues in your game. Thank you!

clever mauve Jul 15, 2019, 12:31 PM

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^

slim rivet Jul 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

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Long post which can be summarized : pay to win tank. Absolutely no possibility that WG removes it

grave bear Jul 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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or in: smasher has too good 152mm gun for tier 7, also has too much alpha damage on HE

modern rapids Jul 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Remove.. no.. nerf.. maybe

lapis shadow Jul 15, 2019, 2:55 PM

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^

clear beacon Jul 15, 2019, 3:05 PM

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wargaming listening to its players? xddddd. They're gonna keep milking the game for money, they don't care if the game dies as long as they got their money. It's been like this for years.

quick lichen Jul 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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It’s hard to listen to a play base that pulls them in literally every direction

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Buff the 183

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Remove the 183

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Give the fv 4005 a 183

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Etc etc

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It’s nauseating

drowsy plaza Jul 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Just to be different. Buff the Smasher 😛

quick lichen Jul 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Heretic

drowsy plaza Jul 15, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Honestly the Nameless and Lupus are IMHO much better tanks than the Smasher

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But all deserve a nerf bat beating

river portal Jul 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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not the players base but if you check 183 stats is worst now at tier 10

thick rover Jul 15, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Cause of less skilled players who wanna play the line for damage

onyx lily Jul 15, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Is there going to be any nerf affecting FV4005?

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 3:36 PM

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it doesnt need a nerf, its already paper thin

violet sonnet Jul 15, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Still waiting for binos

quick lichen Jul 15, 2019, 4:05 PM

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The 183 has been ruining games for 3+ years

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It’s deserves to be garbage

twilit crystal Jul 15, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yup if you play the 183 you deserve to lose. I hate when I have 2 183s on my team tho. I hate depending on slot machines that refuse to move 5 feet

hearty hawk Jul 15, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Kv-2 is fun, change my mind

full dew Jul 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Because it's overpowered,right

desert hamlet Jul 15, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Kv2 is not at all OP.. Just the ability to 1 shot the opponents.

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Wannabeunicum summed 183 up so well

onyx lily Jul 15, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I think FV4005 is very good, so it would be nice to know if it will get nerfed, you know for tournaments 😉

indigo knot Jul 15, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I don't think so.....its fine currently
But I was grinding Conway I found it a little too strong same as waffle..

nimble zodiac Jul 15, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Wait how the hell did you let a Smasher HE your KV-4 OneKil

wet quail Jul 15, 2019, 7:45 PM

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He splash

nimble zodiac Jul 15, 2019, 7:56 PM

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He said 1000 damage tho

wet quail Jul 15, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Maybe it hit the cupola or something

kind swallow Jul 15, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Foch is better than Conway for me

deft owl Jul 15, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@twilit crystal There is no such thing. Just because you hate it doesnt others deserve to lose when they play it.

crystal spoke Jul 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Wait what's this about the lowe getting nerfed? It hasn't felt any different from when I won it a couple years ago

twilit crystal Jul 15, 2019, 9:37 PM

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yeah they do. They already get their fun from the 1300 stupid alpha LULZ BOMBS

wet quail Jul 15, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Kv2 can’t do 1300

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 10:09 PM

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hey my discord is not letting me sign in do you know how I can fix it?

drowsy plaza Jul 15, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@wet quail he’s talking about the 183

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 10:40 PM

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@unique scaffold how did you type this if you can't sign in?

drowsy plaza Jul 15, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Better yet why type it in Balance Discussion

unique scaffold Jul 15, 2019, 10:47 PM

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im signd in now

ruby monolith Jul 15, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Cheekys on the tiger 2 begging for some attention

grave bear Jul 15, 2019, 11:28 PM

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guys last 6 messages in this chat triggered me in such a way

olive hawk Jul 15, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Tigers cheeks r fine but I think @covert snow's need some attention ;) cmere bb

dire cradle Jul 15, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Something has to be done with the Smasher, make it a tier 8, ...it might still be op.

wet quail Jul 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Nah

nimble zodiac Jul 16, 2019, 12:08 AM

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150mm of pen is a joke in tier VIII

covert snow Jul 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Oyes senpai @olive hawk

twilit crystal Jul 16, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Except 275 heat pen

indigo knot Jul 16, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Smasher has better aim time than Is-x tanks too

smoky yoke Jul 16, 2019, 2:25 AM

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So much hate and salt for the fv183. Words of the few must not overthrow the words of the many, unless it goes against my ideals 😛

solar osprey Jul 16, 2019, 4:02 AM

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can every player get a free tier 10 tank

nimble zodiac Jul 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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No, it would throw off the skill table in high tiers which is already bad enough since it’s possible. Also this kinda isn’t related 👀 also also you can, it’s called grinding

wispy sigil Jul 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Hmm i think e100 need buff

nimble zodiac Jul 16, 2019, 7:01 AM

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in what, it's quite a competitive tank

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I think Dracula need to be nerfed

wispy sigil Jul 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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4202, e100, Churchill 1 /7, need to get buff

distant river Jul 16, 2019, 7:37 AM

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@wispy sigil lmao you think you can just come in here and say "this tank needs a buff" and not give any reasons or details behind it 🤣

thick rover Jul 16, 2019, 8:23 AM

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He can, but it is up to his arguments and backing to be more convincing

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Wg balances by numbers soo

twin egret Jul 16, 2019, 9:04 AM

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FV 183 is balanced

severe yacht Jul 16, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Why they are not making realistic battles permanent.... Or they can make it available like rating battles for limited hours everyday...

daring stream Jul 16, 2019, 9:51 AM

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183 is balanced pen and damage but aim and accuracy not balanced🤔

twin egret Jul 16, 2019, 10:23 AM

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so it can be balanced out

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 10:30 AM

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183 can't be balanced and therefore should be removed from the game
That much alpha damage will be broken even if the rest of the tank is really bad

grizzled sleet Jul 16, 2019, 10:33 AM

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Make it like it was on release, or hey you could delete it

twin egret Jul 16, 2019, 10:35 AM

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just nerf AP pen lol, as well as making reload 20 seconds with provisions and equipment

distant river Jul 16, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Its not balenced now but its about as good as it could get. That clearly shows it needs removing but that isnt going to happen

grizzled sleet Jul 16, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Not since they made the badger a collector

river portal Jul 16, 2019, 11:18 AM

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One someone said 183 is balanced now show him this

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drowsy plaza Jul 16, 2019, 11:57 AM

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But avg dmg still above norms.

river portal Jul 16, 2019, 12:17 PM

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sure avg damage in the top

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topaz meadow Jul 16, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Buff HESH pen plz I hate having to ACTUALLY aim

quick lichen Jul 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@topaz meadow run calibrated then. Duh

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Imagine having to aim for weakspots, smh🙄

grave bear Jul 16, 2019, 2:17 PM

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imagine driving an heavy tank but meds with CS have 360 pen and enough accuracy to pen you everywhere everytime at any angle
and then imagine driving an Heavy Tank which is not IS4/T57/Te5 and have same or way less Gold pen than med tanks
@unique scaffold

gaunt coyote Jul 16, 2019, 2:21 PM

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buff grille😭
plix

Even according to WG's own statistics it has the lowest average damage out of all t10 tanks and 3rd worst WR amongst the rest of the t10 TD's. I bet that mainly because the camo is terrible.

jade cargoBOT Jul 16, 2019, 2:25 PM

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dynoSuccess LongMinecraft_VN#8207 has been warned.

thorn dagger Jul 16, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Nerf incoming for E50M? But how many people are actually playing it is the question.

echo ridge Jul 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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:/

slim rivet Jul 16, 2019, 2:58 PM

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It’s prolly the most played t10 med atm @thorn dagger

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I love how it role plays a heavy tank with no issues

drowsy plaza Jul 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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It plays a lot of rolls.

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I’d rather buff other Meds than nerf the 50 M though.

kind swallow Jul 16, 2019, 3:11 PM

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E50m is balanced, just use gold on turret, and aaaiiimmmm
Im doing in e50m almost same as in 121

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I know it does but being so successful as a heavy tank with such speed is particularly dumb

It was balanced before the latest buff which wasn't necessary at all

crisp steeple Jul 16, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Hi

kind swallow Jul 16, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Well, its the only german tank that everyone uses at cw

grave bear Jul 16, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i hope they nerf again its reload time only to 7.2 or around with rammer (now 5.8) since nerfing anything else would make it useless
Imo the fact that is super huge tall and fat is an enough balacing factor for the armor, since 80% of non german heavies can sidehug it... and e50m cant do nothing... and its a med

azure tiger Jul 16, 2019, 6:31 PM

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So it’s not op ? Look at stats

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Hmm I don’t remember seeing any e50ms. I’ve only seen Fv4202.

grave bear Jul 16, 2019, 6:43 PM

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@azure tiger Lol global stats are useless
its op in his few stuff he can do, its not as versatile as an obj140
@azure tigeryes they're useless
E50m is just Med tanks counter. against heavies its way worse than obj140 or similar
yes i play e50m and others, its not feeling like a med tank because its super fat huge and slow acceleration speed, plus the turret is literally Paper vs 330+ heat (penetrable basically everywhere in the turret)
I hate when tanks are nerfed because there are noobs not able to aim, and so the tank becames totally trash against brain mounted people, just like happened for vk100 and mauschen.
E50m needs a small and precise nerf; DPM nerf.
so what do you want to nerf on e50m? @azure tiger i'll let u see how that would make it totally useless.
E50m is the best Overall armored tier X med tank, has good gun dep, and very good max speed with the worst hp/ ratio
so having the worst dpm out of all tier X meds is a thing to balance it, but actually its not like that

azure tiger Jul 16, 2019, 6:44 PM

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They are useless ? It show us that the tank has a better win rate so it’s probably a better tank ( lol just a test : do u play e50 m ? ) if the tank is a med counter and has a mobility correct .... it’s op because when there are 4 meds in front and only one or two heavies ...::yup dpm nerf can be good with a smaller profile

quartz steeple Jul 16, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Honestly only brain ded ppl cant kill e50 m it's a perfectly balanced tank just cauz it counters the Russian and British meds doesn't mean it is op I mean like even an autoloader can take out e50 m with ease let alone the huge lower plate and paper sides ..... it can side scrape pretty well but the turret cheeks = pen zone ... basically ppl now a days play battles and if they can't kill a tank they just start sayin it is op .... and it's all who is behind the screen .....

kind swallow Jul 16, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Perfect sentence

finite loom Jul 16, 2019, 7:23 PM

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#BuffType59please

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 7:25 PM

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There's a reason that tX tournaments are flooded with E50M's now, before you used to see none

jade cargoBOT Jul 16, 2019, 7:30 PM

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dynoSuccess Billy_The_Kid1#2043 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess RR7#4398 has been warned.

deft owl Jul 16, 2019, 7:48 PM

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@finite loom No

finite loom Jul 16, 2019, 7:48 PM

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y not

distant river Jul 16, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Look at its stats on #devs-answers. Yes they are a bit old but it has high WR and damage. If anything it is in need of a nerf but that is not necessary. @finite loom

deft owl Jul 16, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@finite loom Look at the devs answer. Type 59 already has good overal winrate and damage. So NO.

finite loom Jul 16, 2019, 8:45 PM

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aww

kind swallow Jul 16, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Type59 is best tier VIII medium for me

gaunt coyote Jul 16, 2019, 9:48 PM

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How about Buff the Grille still😁 😭

violet sonnet Jul 16, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Would love it but I don’t really want more tds at tier10

swift bramble Jul 16, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Uh Batchat buff?

drowsy plaza Jul 16, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Buff the Pz58 🤫

grave bear Jul 16, 2019, 10:50 PM

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buff charioteer

nimble zodiac Jul 16, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Buff Indien Panzer, VK A

unique scaffold Jul 16, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Ehh

uneven mist Jul 16, 2019, 11:11 PM

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So I just recently received the T95E6 tier X collector tank from containers and was wondering why the average damage is 400 but other tier X heavies have an average damage of 420?

carmine spear Jul 16, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Because it has the same if not a similar gun to the E5 and M103

carmine spear Jul 16, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Why would it have more alpha?

quick lichen Jul 16, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Only the is4 and is8 have 420 alpha...

grave bear Jul 16, 2019, 11:50 PM

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if im not wrong wz113 also has a calibre supposed to have 420 alpha, but has only the gold shells of that
yeah, wz113 has 122mm gun like is4
while all others have 120mm guns, except is7 and maus with 130mm and 12.8 cm

twilit crystal Jul 16, 2019, 11:54 PM

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the 113 actually has 370 alpha too which is weird

twin egret Jul 17, 2019, 12:04 AM

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the HEAT on it is broken

west aspen Jul 17, 2019, 1:04 AM

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We players request for Grille 15 buff please...

violet sonnet Jul 17, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Sadly grille’s best days are in the past. It was best support tank but since our balancing team likes to play with multiple variable adjustments rather fix 1 thing at a time .. they killed traverse...killed bloom on the move...killed turret traverse and killed engin power. ALL IN ONE UPDATE.

twin egret Jul 17, 2019, 2:00 AM

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T-62A should get it's 115mm gun

vestal torrent Jul 17, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Good bye E50M.... I will remember you fondly. May you R.I.P. 😭 😭

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 3:11 AM

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If a T-62A got a 115 mm that would just make it a regular T-62
That, and it's a smooth bore gun. I believe WG avoids those

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Dont nerf the only competitive german tank pls (e50m)

olive hawk Jul 17, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Jag op

mint haven Jul 17, 2019, 4:25 AM

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put an f in chat if you think the 183 should have been removed and replaced with the FV217 Badger, cause tbh you just can't balence 930 alpha, not even mentioning 1,200

azure lark Jul 17, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I would like to see players profiles show the tanks they actually have now.

quartz steeple Jul 17, 2019, 5:02 AM

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U guys are like debating to nerf all tier 10s to tier 9 stats 🤣🤣🤣 funny how ppl b at e50 m ......

indigo knot Jul 17, 2019, 6:26 AM

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I hope Leo1 receives turret traverse buff and a bit of DPM buff

cunning vapor Jul 17, 2019, 6:30 AM

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While you guys are at it, buff the bc 25t shell reload to 2.75 sec.

thick rover Jul 17, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Ha Ha

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 6:50 AM

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lmao BC is already op @cunning vapor

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 6:56 AM

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Nerf obj252U and smasher and lupus

teal olive Jul 17, 2019, 7:58 AM

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@grave bear hope you’re joking

lucid furnace Jul 17, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Lol bc is not op it is almost balanced but it needs this 2.75, look at the bc25t in wot pc

thick rover Jul 17, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Well you don't look at everything, comparing it to pc version

steady vale Jul 17, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Does anyone know how to turn off vsync on pc?

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cool

distant river Jul 17, 2019, 10:01 AM

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@fiery turtle simple solution, dont play tier 5.

dusky oxide Jul 17, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Ignoring a problem is not a solution.

humble spear Jul 17, 2019, 10:09 AM

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@fiery turtle huh?
The only 75mm gun that I know of that was nerfed in 5.3 (was it?) was the M4 Sherman's 75mm M3

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distant river Jul 17, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Thats not very nice. Anyway those tanks are not meant to have good alpha. If you are relying on trading shots your are playing them wrong. The PZIVG has better gun handling, its faster, has better armour and better camo. It pays for these things with its gun.

fiery turtle Jul 17, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Sorry, was misled by a website I thought was reliable! Withdrawn comment.

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/

Compare Tanks - BlitzStars.com | World of Tanks: Blitz

Compare World of Tanks: Blitz tanks. WOTB tank compare including equipment and provisions.

tame plume Jul 17, 2019, 10:31 AM

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the 183 needs a nerf ,since only people who play the dracula and helsing use it

wet quail Jul 17, 2019, 10:56 AM

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😂

prime lake Jul 17, 2019, 11:24 AM

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idh drac nor helsing but i do play the 183

stray arch Jul 17, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I am currently grinding toward the fv183 but so far I made it to the at15 but I am only going for it (and the obj263) for the derp. But I somewhat do agree to replace the fv with the badger but I think the Badger would be more broken then the fv in a sense since there will be a lot of people getting the badger. We all know a lot of people have the fv. Imagine if we replace the fv with the badger, the badger would be broken not by power but my numbers.

jade cargoBOT Jul 17, 2019, 11:51 AM

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dynoSuccess leut. max#1222 has been warned.

fickle moon Jul 17, 2019, 11:53 AM

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@carmine palm in that case A LOT of people are gonna be mega pissed

jade cargoBOT Jul 17, 2019, 11:56 AM

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dynoSuccess leut. max#1222 was banned

stray arch Jul 17, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Yeah that is another con to the idea that I completely forgot to cover. That is definitely true (unless if wg gives the fv to the people who bought the badger with money). Even tho the fv is broken, it will cause backlash. Not as big as the 5.5 backlash but a backlash

noble siren Jul 17, 2019, 12:00 PM

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BC is already fine and doesnt need any Buffs

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 12:05 PM

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BatChat should have true 105mm alpha

grizzled sleet Jul 17, 2019, 12:11 PM

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^

stray arch Jul 17, 2019, 12:16 PM

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Real quick, when did we go from the fv to the batchat?

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 12:21 PM

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When we decided to stop talking about skill less tanks that are bad for the game and to instead talk about good tanks.

grizzled sleet Jul 17, 2019, 12:29 PM

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^

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Batchat is already very good imo, plus comparing stats to pc vr is totally meaningless.

thick rover Jul 17, 2019, 1:03 PM

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^
I mean it would be healthy for a discussion

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 1:03 PM

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What if I'm measuring it against other tanks in Blitz that also have a 105mm cannon?

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 2:10 PM

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i meant the guy that said batchat in pc has better stats than bc in wotb 🤦
(literally like any other tank)

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Ah. Gotcha

regal cedar Jul 17, 2019, 2:36 PM

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The game is declining, not even sure how to give constructive criticism, I’ve been playing since 2015, I’m a combat vet and this game saved my life, but recently it has been hard to play. Really hard. I feel we, the loyal players aren’t ever thought about or listened to. My opinion.

odd girder Jul 17, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@regal cedar Yes, I agree with you, for me was update 3.8 (equipment changes) very unfair thing... and bad balance for tanks like WZ FT (TD) don't help too... anyway game still has good and enjoyable aspects

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 2:53 PM

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wdym for loyal players? 🤦

indigo tinsel Jul 17, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Imo the batchat isn’t that good and I’d much rather play the leopard 1. The batchat’s interclip is far too long, it should be reduced to 2.7 from 3

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Would be nice to have the max speed on cdc buffed

regal cedar Jul 17, 2019, 3:09 PM

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@grave bear what does that mean?? It does still have enjoyable aspects, but man. I can’t explain. I’ve really been trying to think about it so I at least can give some kind of constructive criticism aside from just complaining.

surreal hedge Jul 17, 2019, 3:30 PM

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should you test every tank when you realse it isn't that obvious when a tank is op or not? for exampel charioteer from last update and now the new Italian tank with its op gun a smart player will use just the third shot and he will have 4.8 sec reload for a 105 mm gun
really?

west aspen Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Thank u ppl for agreeing on my point.
1 day, We , Grille 15 drivers will be satisfied when its gonna get buff

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regal cedar Jul 17, 2019, 3:47 PM

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@surreal hedge your missing the point. And that’s the thing I guess. WG is missing the point. But again, I am trying to pinpoint issues so that I can specifically complain. But even then, I’m not sure WG would listen.... pretty sad.

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 3:55 PM

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@regal cedar I feel you, WG has no loyalty to older players. Instead they run all of them off in favor of new 45%ers that they can drain a quick $100 off of for a crate tank that will ruin the game.

thin ermine Jul 17, 2019, 3:59 PM

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The grille 15 has been a complete joke ever since its nerf. It says alot when most would rather play the WT then the grille.

quick lichen Jul 17, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Stat shaming people isn’t ok

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@regal cedar

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I bet money my stats are better than yours. Can I shame you?

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Would you like that?

hidden frigate Jul 17, 2019, 4:10 PM

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You’re right, stat shaming isn’t ok. It’s a good thing. Shame itself isn’t bad, and if you are a bad player, that shame will propel you to better yourself. It did for me, and it has for many others.

quick lichen Jul 17, 2019, 4:11 PM

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And other people will be disheartened by it

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 4:11 PM

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I know. We're the ones that have to teach these guys. I feel like WG should be actively trying to teach these new players the game mechanics. Rather than just giving them opportunities to get into tier 10 with no experience in the game.

wet quail Jul 17, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Stat shaming is a good thing, without it people won’t try and get better

quick lichen Jul 17, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Naming and shaming isn’t allowed by wg. Ever

thin ermine Jul 17, 2019, 4:13 PM

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It would be nice if people had to have a tech tree tank of a tier before being able to buy a premium/collector tank of said tier. I see a lot of people playing badly in these tanks because they have not learned the game, they bought their way to tier X.

quick lichen Jul 17, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Completely agree

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But that’s not the case. Let’s keep this about tank balance

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You’re complaining about 45%ers

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That’s stat shaming

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I don’t know how to explain that in a more concise and simple way

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I like how he reacted to his own post with: " 👏" lmaoo

thin ermine Jul 17, 2019, 4:23 PM

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@regal cedar Clapping at your own comment makes you seem a bit insecure yourself. Kind of ironic if you ask me

jade cargoBOT Jul 17, 2019, 4:25 PM

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dynoSuccess MAXIMUS SPARTAN ALTSOBA PDE#7065 was muted

grave bear Jul 17, 2019, 4:26 PM

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@surreal hedge you dont understand how progetto 65 autoloader works. if you use only the last shell, you need to wait other 3 seconds for intra clip reload, then 4.8 seconds last shell will start loading.
so its 8 seconds reload, the worst dpm for a 350 dmg gun at tier 9, and its a Tier X. so its actually balanced.

quick lichen Jul 17, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Aww he left

jade cargoBOT Jul 17, 2019, 4:38 PM

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dynoSuccess arya_amirgholami[I-G-I][EU]#0226 has been warned.

twilit crystal Jul 17, 2019, 4:52 PM

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@unique scaffold kv2 nerf in 6.2 76 pen instead of 85

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 4:53 PM

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🥳

warm moss Jul 17, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Can we get back low tiers to make high tier enjoyable again

hidden frigate Jul 17, 2019, 5:02 PM

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to make the seal clubbers who think they’re actually good at the game with their 20,000 games in an a20 go away

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 5:04 PM

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ow ok wg sure nerf the KV 2 more. dont forget to nerf the SMASHER as well! you are all focused on the kv 2 but meanwille the smashers literally CONTROL battles!! i have lost and won many times just because i had a smasher on my team (win) or the enemy had one(lost). Pls nerf smasher!

hard sapphire Jul 17, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I have the thing and i can snipe like a td its sad that they dont nerf it but they nerf the Kv2

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 5:18 PM

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@hard sapphire i have a thing called by self respect, about the camp thing

dawn plinth Jul 17, 2019, 5:26 PM

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The kv 2 does not need a nerf I don’t know why it’s such a harsh nerf. The smasher is literally broken and they can nerf it because it is a collectors tank and not premium.

grizzled sleet Jul 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Lmao and now with the tier 5-6 equipment

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 5:28 PM

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indeed. yet smashers control tier 7 battles, i saw many ppl complaining about it in stream and wg didnt even say a word about it

versed fable Jul 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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im sure the devs have a reason for it

past cape Jul 17, 2019, 5:32 PM

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so, the solution to new players being able to progress too quickly is.... nerf kv-1... LOL!

long haven Jul 17, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Nerf Kv3 pls, broken tank

static ingot Jul 17, 2019, 5:37 PM

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yeah

tropic shadow Jul 17, 2019, 5:39 PM

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The KV 2 nerf isn't that bad, they are only taking away 10mm of he pen

warped anchor Jul 17, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Im pretty sure that wasnt all the changes for 6.2,so a smasher nerf is still very likely.

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 5:46 PM

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@versed fable here is the devs reason: 🤑 💰

hoary oar Jul 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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smasher nerf was kinda good cuz it was just too good but a kv-2 nerf like bruh

dawn plinth Jul 17, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@tropic shadow 10 mm is quite a bit considering that could be the different in penetrating some armors what could be penned

distant river Jul 17, 2019, 5:53 PM

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KV2 deserves every nerf it gets. What it really wants is the 152 removing but I doubt that will happen

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 5:55 PM

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I don't really care about t6 but Kv2 deserves a nerf

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 5:56 PM

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not true, smasher should be the one getting all of those nerfs, it literally controls tier 7 battles, wich kv 2 due to its terrible reload, accuracy and pen doesnt, smasher on the other hand.... i dont have to say much do i?

leaden tiger Jul 17, 2019, 5:57 PM

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DEVELOPER

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Why the KV-2 again?

dawn plinth Jul 17, 2019, 6:06 PM

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@distant river why would they ever remove the 152 it’s what makes the tank iconic.

twilit crystal Jul 17, 2019, 6:10 PM

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What was also iconic was no gun depression and limited turret traverse

dusty harness Jul 17, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Lmao, ppl waiting on wg to nerf a premium vechicle. YouSmartBois

dawn plinth Jul 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@sullen vault really? I thought there was a policy about that or something similar

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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They actually can nerf every tank in the game

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I mean it has a smooth DPM but other heavies can still tear the Smasher apart like Tiger P and BP... well, a few heavies can match up with the smasher, but this concept of being able to do a lot of convenient damage without getting rushed because you have teammates is kinda... game-breaking

sullen vault Jul 17, 2019, 6:41 PM

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@dawn plinth oho we doing this now,big brains.anyways they have already nerfed premuim tanks along the way,plus if they so desire,they can just make them collecters and nerf them from there

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 6:42 PM

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grammar makes u smart

hearty hawk Jul 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Remove cupola on tortoise because people can flank, most heavys at this teir can't really get hurt by the tortoise gun remember plus tortoise is slow. I don't care if you guys complain about this comment. This comment is for the devs to read thank you

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Give the TOG 65 kmph, and 69 hull traverse.

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 7:05 PM

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@hearty hawk heavy tanks you find in front can't flank, and also you get teammates to prevent flankers

teal olive Jul 17, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Why does the jag STILL not have more than 85mm of HE pen??? It should have just as much if not MORE than the 150mm guns. It’s not fair and it doesn’t make sense

shy trout Jul 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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what are yall thoughts on the HP regeneration on british tanks

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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What Jag?

honest trellis Jul 17, 2019, 7:15 PM

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What about standard he on 183, it has barely more pen than the 268

prime oracle Jul 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Please just please don't do this new consumable update nobody asked for it nobody wants it nobody likes it you will only lose more players from the existing player base

fluid slate Jul 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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i am sorry i know this isnt chat made for this but there is no chat made for it, How you can get @veteran role here? do you need to be veteran ig or? (i play since 2014 when game released) thanks for answer!

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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25k battles and 50% WR

viscid tundra Jul 17, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Will be sweden tanks in Blitz??

prime oracle Jul 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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"chat with devs" no devs chatting....

wet quail Jul 17, 2019, 8:23 PM

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What a surprise 😂

grizzled sleet Jul 17, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Lmao I'm so happy for these consumables (not really but since they're probably coming) my comet gets to be super cancer now

dusky oxide Jul 17, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Way to ruin the game by catering to the part of the community that doesnt have any idea how the game works. Why would adding wacky consumables make the game quality better if the devs have already failed at balancing the game multiple times.
This doesnt add a dynamic element, it diminishes how experience shows when pushing a tank to its limits and getting results (ie, skill). Now you can just press a button. We can say goodbye to smart choices when it comes to balancing. Or maybe we shouldve done it some time ago...

I wouldnt be surprised if people were to say goodbye to the game altogether. If the devs cant provide us with tank lines and map desings that make the game exciting and dynamic enough on their own without adding some gimmicks, dont expect the influx of new players to account for the ones that leave to play pubg.

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Honestling want to guve up.. theyve nerfed the kv2..

slim rivet Jul 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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This consumables thing, makes me think about battlefield heroes, which was the cartoonish counterpart of battlefield. 2 totally different games... @dusky oxide good point my man. No new maps, no rework for Mine, but some new cartoonish gimmicks....

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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it's not going for Comet in the next update @grizzled sleet just the heavies..?

distant river Jul 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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@unique scaffold KV2 deserves removal or the 152 deserves removal. You should be lucky you got off as lightly as you did.

@nimble zodiac isnt it all brit lines 7-10?

grizzled sleet Jul 17, 2019, 9:05 PM

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@dawn plinth tbh it should have been removed and the T-150 stay

dawn plinth Jul 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@distant river jeez you absolutely despise the tank huh @grizzled sleet yeah I do think it should be like that

brittle flax Jul 17, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Bring back the ms1 If we spam it they will

dusky oxide Jul 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Just heavies? Hahaha that was the only thing missing. Just keep giving heavies and TDs every advantage and keep wondering why the matches always end up being identical. Theres not enough lights or meds and even less players who know how to use them = not enough movement

distant river Jul 17, 2019, 9:14 PM

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KV2 is one of the worst things to still exist in blitz. Tier 6 should not have 640 alpha and great HE with 800 alpha. Tier 7 should be the limit but even then 640 alpha is a bit overcooked. All the KV2 does is encourage an awful playstyle that contradicts exactly what blitz is about. Me and most of the veteran/good playerbase despise the KV2 but the worse half of the playerbase seem to love getting 1 shot in per match...

violet sonnet Jul 17, 2019, 9:39 PM

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T150 should have never left the tech if they didn’t force everyone to go through kv2 we wouldn’t have much of a problem. Just too much derp now

still panther Jul 17, 2019, 10:09 PM

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About time the KV2 was stripped of its one shot ability. I can play a light tank or sniper tank again without being reported so much.

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I thought the consumables went for VII-x British turreted TDs and heavies

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Again new consumables and again a failure. Not only encouraging camping just to be able to spam HP regeneration, but overexposing as well - you can heal in case. You're making game too easy. I don't mind consumables in mad games though and if you want to add more imaginary stuff then mad games is the right place, cause the mode is amazing, but might get boring soon.

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Wg please do not mix random battles with mad games battles!!

They already have with these new dumb broken consumables @trim depot

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Why would they?

keen junco Jul 17, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Am i the only one who wants realistic battles back?

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Good evening everyone I have a problem with a player who harasses me how can I make wargamemig face whatever for his help please

vagrant drum Jul 17, 2019, 10:51 PM

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You can report them with a Ticket on the wg website I'm pretty sure

boreal crag Jul 17, 2019, 10:59 PM

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@keen junco i want realistic AND mad games back :/ speacially the wasteland map.... boi i miss that map.........

trim depot Jul 17, 2019, 11:08 PM

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They won't do anything @unique scaffold, I've sent tickets in and you just get an automated message back saying "It's being looked into". They want you to use the downvote system that doesn't actually accomplish anything.

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 11:10 PM

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@unique scaffold read the pinned messages please

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Super it serve to what alor just picked up the money then

real storm Jul 17, 2019, 11:31 PM

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KV 2 is gone

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Pfff nerf kv1 when it was ok tank.
Kv220t should get nerf first......
Same with kv2 and smasher......
No sense

slim rivet Jul 17, 2019, 11:40 PM

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If u can document ur complaint WG will do something. Maybe not today but they will @unique scaffold and yes, Dear mods, lets stick to the topic

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Yes ok it's not normal to be harassed in a game the goal is to relax and not harassed people

nimble zodiac Jul 17, 2019, 11:47 PM

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file a ticket with evidence to the support site, if you wanna talk about tank balancing, then here you are

unique scaffold Jul 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I just ask that he be punished for harassment that makes me a ticket for wargamemig face something for that

tired sky Jul 18, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Why would Blitz nerf the KV2, but leave the T49 alone. U put a 152mm gun on a light tank, but nerf the ONLY and I mean the ONLY thing the KV2 had.....makes NO sense

twin fulcrum Jul 18, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Even though I don't have the KV-2, it still balanced out the games with its derp gun. It kept you on your toes and kept you attentive of where you are on the map

violet sonnet Jul 18, 2019, 1:00 AM

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^^^ and surprised anyone new to tier5...when it ended their hopes of progressing further.
T150 made more sense to keep in tech tree.. and kv2 just as option to research which doesn’t lead to anywhere. (No one tank should make a drastic change in meta. Kv2 + smasher change how you play heavily in tier5-8)

west aspen Jul 18, 2019, 1:04 AM

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KV-1 gets armour nerf
KV-2 also gets nerf

dim field Jul 18, 2019, 1:29 AM

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As much as i dislike the t49, part of its balance comes from plenty of other equal tier tanks that can hit it just as hard it can hit them. The kv-2 doesn't really have that many tier 6 tanks that can one shot it aside from getting ammoracked.

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 1:39 AM

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How do u report someone he told my friend to die

marble furnace Jul 18, 2019, 1:44 AM

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How do I get the smasher?

rancid drift Jul 18, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I think that the t-150 needs to come back. Just like how someone has an option between the jpanther 2 and the Ferdinand. I’m kinda mad that I sold mine way back, I had it before the kv2 was in the game and it was a good middle ground preparing you for the kv3 and kv4. Also, I saved up 60 of the 71k xp for the Churchill GC and it was removed. Not only did I really want it but it would be a great alternative to using the Sherman firefly

past cape Jul 18, 2019, 1:57 AM

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@unique scaffold did your friend actually die?

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 2:21 AM

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No he’s safe

safe copper Jul 18, 2019, 3:06 AM

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Um thought I would add if ur gonna make Foch an autoloader then pls make the cupolas weaker

thin condor Jul 18, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Why, just find that juicy thick side and hesh it with a 183, that makes any Foch get the Foch out

indigo knot Jul 18, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Plz don't bring the new consumables....the game will be more like the mad games

flat bane Jul 18, 2019, 5:50 AM

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For Wz 120, the top gun should get a gun depression buff. Maybe an extra degree or two. 3 degrees of gun depression is a little too low don't you think lol.

cloud ivy Jul 18, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Dont add New "tank heal"

ember seal Jul 18, 2019, 6:20 AM

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its finna mad games but random battles

flat bane Jul 18, 2019, 6:20 AM

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It's only for British tanks too

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Don t add new tank heal !

tiny solstice Jul 18, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Don't add new tank heal. don't add new tank damage reduction. don't add new tank consumables you want the game to improve? do it another way! there are better ways to help a tank other than giving it healing and damage reduction! then a buff could help! and look at us we are discussing this by editing our text :l

hidden scarab Jul 18, 2019, 6:25 AM

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i think the 215b needs it. the armor is bad for a heavy but it doesnt get any mobility for the lack of armor. all it has is a gun and a turret with bad depression.

twin egret Jul 18, 2019, 6:30 AM

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omg guys can't you just let the ~~man~~ tank heal? Like are you going to complain if your favorite tier 10 got it's own special consumables?

tiny solstice Jul 18, 2019, 6:35 AM

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your favorite T10 is a British but mine isn't! and also I can't stand a 20% damage reduction when i shoot a Fv and see it took about 400-500 when it was supposed to take 640 normally then it survives with not supposed to be left HP and kills me

hidden scarab Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 AM

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it needed this to compensate for the bad armor and bad mobility

umbral hound Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 AM

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@hidden scarab why not just buff its armor and mobility then?

hidden scarab Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 AM

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because this is wargaming and thats too hard sometimes ~~theyre also trying to keep it close to pc~~

distant river Jul 18, 2019, 8:20 AM

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@tired sky T49 is two tiers higher, it has worse alpha, awful pen, worse pen with HE and and it still has similar dpm.

raw oar Jul 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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World of warcraft blitz slowly introduced in world of tanks blitz. After the so - called hybrid nation tanks, magic potions are available aka welding units.
Just to make sure nothing is lost in translation to Belarusian, this was irony not supportive.

distant river Jul 18, 2019, 8:40 AM

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@wispy jackal T49 has no armour, it has no pen and it deals less damage than other 152s for a longer reload

@cunning vapor so do i but with this playerbase i wouldnt be surprised if he was sincere

cunning vapor Jul 18, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I think that guy was being sarcastic

tall ocean Jul 18, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Buff the horrible IS -7 Gun and make it shoot .3 Seconds faster or .4 seconds faster.

wet wharf Jul 18, 2019, 8:49 AM

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u realise that the IS-7 has unpennable amour except for lower glacius.

wet quail Jul 18, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Unless you aim

fiery vessel Jul 18, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Autoloading Foch will be too OP. Change my mind

topaz meadow Jul 18, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Autoloading Foch is a good idea. Change my mind

dim field Jul 18, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Somebody change somebodies mind

shy wren Jul 18, 2019, 10:50 AM

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If the clip reload’s too short, it’ll be OP, like the current iteration. Just need to add on a few seconds to its clip reload, then it’s balanced

karmic tusk Jul 18, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Auto loading foch is neither a good or bad idea I think they should give the players a choice of guns

thick rover Jul 18, 2019, 11:10 AM

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They are in fact

slim rivet Jul 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

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We needed more tds spam at t10. So yeah giving Foch an auto loader is a good idea. To compensate I suggest to decrease its speed. Since most players camp at spawn (on mine, dead rails, all sand map, etc) it doesn’t need it anyways

full dew Jul 18, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Maybe a buff on the grille? Compared to the wt it seems trash to be honest, I've seen grille players have a slower reload speed than my wt, also it has worse camo

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 12:27 PM

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@hidden scarab the 215b is a fantastic tank and doesn’t need some garbage consumable farce to help it. The other sad aspect is both the FV 215b and 4202 are going to be broken OPAF with these, then will be balanced for the add on trash. This is going to ruin Blitz and

noble siren Jul 18, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Why they keep adding consumables for already OP vehicles? I mean just add them like the others, dont add stupid things with them its useless.

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Because the vast amount of oxygen thieves that play this game complain to WG that those vehicles are not competitive

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 12:33 PM

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@full dew 12.4 seconds of rel on wt Vs 11.4 on grille , then myb they were 75 % crew or smth , cuz only buff that tank should get is for traverse speed

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Traverse speed and either gun depression over the front - or some love in the camo department.

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Waffle only beats Grille for reload if the Grille runs CS and no good food provision (assuming both are 100% crew, and neither has adrenaline etc)

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But hey maybe the Grille really wanted to have 367 HEAT pen?

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🙄

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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I did play with cs for some time and I didn't felt like it was underperforming , tbh I didn't even knew that I was using it

noble siren Jul 18, 2019, 12:50 PM

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WG just hate the German tanks and thats a fact

clever musk Jul 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Don't even try to nerf KV-2. You already did it few updates ago, by equipment that made ammo from guns 130mm+ less effective. But if you will nerf it again, nerf the Smasher EXACTLY same way.

quick lichen Jul 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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@noble siren that’s why they buffed the lowe right?

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And the e50m?

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And the maus on pc?

distant river Jul 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Hmmmm
Jagpanther2
RU
WT
Lowe
E75
E50m
The list goes on @noble siren

shy wren Jul 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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SP 1 C with a minor reload between shells buff

Yeah, yeah sure you can say that the SP 1 C’s garbage, but I love mine. Such a good sneaky little LT

quick lichen Jul 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Oh nice assist

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Sp1c is a garbage tank

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Imma stop you right there

noble siren Jul 18, 2019, 1:01 PM

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These tanks got buffed on WoTB? interesting

quick lichen Jul 18, 2019, 1:02 PM

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Where have you been?😂

raw oar Jul 18, 2019, 1:17 PM

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BP with hp buff, reactive armour and engine boost will be soooo balanced.
Then the tanks will be nerfed to balance the stupid consummables and provisions so that you will have to use them (and pay) just to play normally.
Tell me I am wrong.

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 1:34 PM

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@raw oar you are wrong.

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Sadly you aren’t

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I just said you’re wrong because you asked 🤪

worn sierra Jul 18, 2019, 1:52 PM

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no you don't need to pay xd

versed fable Jul 18, 2019, 2:00 PM

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the BP with the engine boost wouldnt make a difference since it speed is cap at 20

twilit crystal Jul 18, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Engine boost boosts top speed limit

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 2:35 PM

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But tbh spic needs buff cuz right now it is unplayable

median gust Jul 18, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Not really that bad

raw oar Jul 18, 2019, 3:29 PM

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@drowsy plaza thank you I needed that 😁

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 4:07 PM

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SP1C is very red team dependent, you need a bunch of clowns on red to effectively farm a lot of damage with it. One good red in a med/light can ruin your day. .

quartz steeple Jul 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Ikr

grizzled sleet Jul 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Spic just needs to be given a weight buff. Like 70 tonnes would be great, but don't touch any mobility stats

shy wren Jul 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Lol, if you want to buff it’s weight to 70t, you’ll need a 1484hp engine to get it back to its original mobility of 21hp/t

I don’t think an engine that size would fit in the tiny SP 1 C

grizzled sleet Jul 18, 2019, 5:38 PM

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r/woooosh

empty ice Jul 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Lol

novel elk Jul 18, 2019, 5:45 PM

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@drowsy plaza what makes you think consumables will make anything OP? You still only have 3 slots and I wouldn't want to miss the big repair kit or Adrenaline for the FV215b. So ok, you can change the small repair kit for engine boost or hp repair but I doubt it will make such a difference,as in British tanks you usually need both repair kits. Gg if you end up retrieving 200 HP but have abysmal dpm because you can't fix your ammoreck.

hearty hawk Jul 18, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Buff AT7 time

jade cargoBOT Jul 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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dynoSuccess TomPL#2885 has been warned.

hearty hawk Jul 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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@tribal summit this is about balance discussion not insults thank you

foggy zinc Jul 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Hi

quick lichen Jul 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@tribal summit you were warned for insulting others. Get your fake news out of here

jade cargoBOT Jul 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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dynoSuccess TomPL#2885 was banned

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 6:29 PM

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oof

drowsy plaza Jul 18, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@novel elk because the issue is the tanks have been ‘balanced’ already. Now we have a rather significant improvement in provisions/consumables that allow for some dramatic shifts.

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Plus I’m old and crotchety

digital goblet Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Hello,
I do not know if this is the right channel to post this message?
I would like to know if it is normal to have sometimes in the game, mount Loss in full game in the game. Could it come from the game? Or would be a problem with my internet connection, knowing that I'm Fiber Optics home?

kind hemlock Jul 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Can the m48 Patton have a camo buff or something I always get out spotted without being able to spot anything back, it might be because I have a 77% crew but idk I’ve played other mediums but this one especially seems to be affected.

twilit crystal Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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77% crew problem solved

tranquil nova Jul 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

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About balance, don’t you think KpfPz 70 needs pen buff, 240 is nowhere near the average pen of other T9 heavies (258). If the reload time was less then we can tolerate such a low pen.

novel elk Jul 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

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@drowsy plaza but that's my point, its not an improvements because mounting the new consumables will mean leaving away some of the existing ones and those are - apart of speed boost - easily as beneficial to the tank as the new ones. So all its gonna do is open up more options to personalize your tank, not make it better.

kind hemlock Jul 18, 2019, 7:36 PM

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@twilit crystal I’ve played other mediums also at the 70s range in crews but only this one has the problem. But whatever I’ll just wait till 100 maybe it will fix itself

kind swallow Jul 18, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@true wedge good luck nerfing premium tank which costs 55€

stoic light Jul 18, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Yea it’s not gonna be nerfed, they care way more about the people who bought it than the people who didn’t and complain about it 24/7

rancid drift Jul 18, 2019, 8:38 PM

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After playing with the mauschen for about 100 games. I think it really needs to be changed. For its tier it has a very very low dpm assuming you’re able to pen anything which is a rare occurrence even at t9. Its health pool which is almost half of that of the Maus in addition to poor speed makes it so that most games I’m killed between spawn and the first objective. And it almost exclusively matches at t10 where it can’t compete with the huge health pools and armor thicknesses of the other vehicles. I also understand that it’s important for a tank like that to have some sort of weak spot so that it’s not completely unfair to fight. But the Mauschens front bottom plate is so large that almost anyone can hit it. You have to play it like a medium unlike the tier 8 and 10 of the line which makes no sense to me

distant river Jul 18, 2019, 8:39 PM

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You should not have a good gun or speed on something which has that good armour

kind swallow Jul 18, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Mauchen after nerf is kinda meh
Especially lower plate

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 8:59 PM

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@rancid drift Mauschen's lower plate, in comtrast to let s say... Is8's lower plate is smaller

rancid drift Jul 18, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Is8s plate is generally small, and with the right angling it can bounce some shots, wiggling helps a lot and peekabooing the enemy is effective because it’s generally fast for a heavy. The Mauschens plate takes so much angling that by the time someone bounces on that plate they can hit your side. Also having the turret on the back rather than the front doesn’t help with this but that’s a vehicle design issue rather than a game design issue

hearty hawk Jul 18, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Remove cupola on tortoise to boast it's armor actually and it won't cause problems because people can break its tracks and flank it always. Who ever saids that would make it op can just learn to flank and aim.

violet sonnet Jul 18, 2019, 9:17 PM

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They should have done that ages ago

distant river Jul 18, 2019, 9:19 PM

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@rancid drift mauschen has about 10mm more effective armour on lower plate when not angled and it gets a whole lot stronget when angled. It is also tiny compared to the IS8s. Mauschens best angle is about 35° where it has 260 average armour. When sidescraping the weakest points are the cheeks and cupola which are 240 and 200mm and are super easy to wiggle and bounce. That makes it pretty much impenetrable apart from the occasional lucky shot on the turret. If you cant hold a position with essentially 350mm of armour then you have an issue...

rancid drift Jul 18, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I know everyone likes to chalk it down to “ur bad git gud” but I’m just sharing my experiences along with those of other mauschen players I’ve platooned with, statistically it should be amazing but it just doesn’t perform. I don’t know exactly why and I’m just trying my best. I’ve been playing this game for 5 years and I know what I’m doing. I’m not the best ever but I think it would be nice if I could have a conversation about the vehicle itself without it coming down to my skill. I’m at least glad you didn’t ask about my win rate and turn it into that

slim rivet Jul 18, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Buddy u can’t complain about the mauschen, which is not a td, here. Alternatively may I suggest u to beg for a buff of a td? 100% sure WG will give u a loader, new broken consumables or something. Remember, u are playing world of camp, not world of tanks @rancid drift don’t give wg such ideas please. It’s supposed to be kinda realistic. If u want super powers go play LoL @winged barn

rancid drift Jul 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I can’t get through the sherman firefly to save my life. I am kinda mad they got rid of the Churchill gc 10k xp from when I was about to get it. I’d rather play that for the new td line than the Sherman firefly

winged barn Jul 18, 2019, 10:07 PM

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That what the maus line needs... Invincibility for 20 seconds

native latch Jul 18, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I suck at the game, can I get my is6 back?

empty ice Jul 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Maus needs an auto reloader

unique scaffold Jul 18, 2019, 11:15 PM

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The 183 needs to become the WT auf e100

feral mortar Jul 18, 2019, 11:47 PM

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No

brisk lily Jul 18, 2019, 11:58 PM

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We need a WT auf E100

orchid grove Jul 18, 2019, 11:59 PM

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^I agree with this statement

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 12:09 AM

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yes we need the Wt auf e100

fiery turtle Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Disagree with the nerf in Update 6.2 to the KV-1's armour. That's what makes the tank fun.

IMO, what makes the KV-1 devastating to Tier IV tanks is the big 85 mm gun, not its armour.

I recommend taking away its 85 mm F-30 top gun, and giving it the 76 mm S-34 stock gun from the KV-1S instead.

This will allow Tier IV tanks to survive against the KV-1 for longer, as the KV-1 with a 76 mm gun would be doing 40 less alpha damage per shot.

(Note: The 76 mm S-34 stock gun from the KV-1S has better penetration than the 76 mm gun on the KV-220 Beta Test.)

I also recommend doing the same to the French BDR G1 B, which has an even bigger 90 mm top gun.
Remove the 90 mm DCA 30 gun, add a new 75 mm SA32 stock gun with the same stats as the 75 mm SA44 gun has now, and buff all the stats of the 75 mm SA44 gun by 25% to make it the new top gun.

dusky bay Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

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buff kv1s reload

shy wren Jul 19, 2019, 12:28 AM

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@grizzled sleet nah, not a r/woooosh, I definitely noticed your sarcasm the moment you wanted the SP 1 C’s weight to become 70t, so I became curious to see what would be the comparable engine power to make the tank as mobile as it currently is

grizzled sleet Jul 19, 2019, 12:28 AM

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I c

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Remove tortoise cupola

latent snow Jul 19, 2019, 1:01 AM

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The chieftain t95 needs its cupola armor to be buffed, it can be penetrated by high caliber HE

slim rivet Jul 19, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Yeah guys we need more tds at t10. We only got tds with big alpha, with high speed, with no armor, with huge armor, soon with auto loader. But we need more tds. Like 3 per teams camping to hell is mot enough, more tds!

violet sonnet Jul 19, 2019, 1:10 AM

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I agree with this^^
Also add consumables that make them invisible for 30 seconds so there is no chance my Jage100 can be spotted when i dont want it to. Thanks.
Oh and while you at it consumable to transform my tank into a robot for 30 seconds ..so i can climb those higher camping positions that aren’t meant to

earnest sun Jul 19, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Also give us consumables that insta reloads gun and can be used many times

indigo knot Jul 19, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I think Leo1 needs a bit of buff in terms of turret traverse and rate of fire....with the incoming Stb buff and Amx30b in the game ....Leo1 will become obsolete
It doesn't have armour (lucky bounces sometimes happen)
The gun is 3rd best at its tier after 62a and Grille15.... mobility is good
Dpm is same as Russian meds(will lose most of the times if a Russian med yolos you in 1v1) and is quite a map dependent tank

calm forge Jul 19, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I think you should add APC tanks

broken wind Jul 19, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Sooo..... They nerf the KV2 HE pen to 76mm huh?

hidden scarab Jul 19, 2019, 3:10 AM

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@indigo knot i love my leopard 1 and can confirm it doesnt need a buff. the 30B isnt that good of a vehicle and in no way is it better than the leo. the leopard has dpm, acceleration, camo, pen, and gun handling that is superior to the 30B

calm forge Jul 19, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Like the stagehound from the U.K

indigo knot Jul 19, 2019, 3:18 AM

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@hidden scarab Leo1 is one of my favourite tanks in the game....but in some situations 30b can be better than Leo1 ....it doesn't have good camo ratings....140s or 62a will out spot you...140 has almost the same camo rating as bat chat....you can farm a good amount in Leo1 but winning isn't easy(way team dependent tank) unless you are Super uni

hidden scarab Jul 19, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I run camo net on both the Leo and the 140 and the 140 only has 4% better camo while stationary and 3% more while moving. Basically almost nothing. Check the camo rating again and you will be surprised at how sneaky the Leo is. Its also not very team dependent as the speed allows it to run from a situation it cant fight against. The only situation where the 30B is better is on a heavy ridgeline as it has a mantelet but then again it has a massive cupola that you can hardly miss.

indigo knot Jul 19, 2019, 3:32 AM

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I think my playstyle is wrong then ...

noble saffron Jul 19, 2019, 3:38 AM

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lol i hate kv2

dim field Jul 19, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Many people do

winged barn Jul 19, 2019, 3:44 AM

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The leopard turret is also stupidly trollish. For being paper it gets a lot of nice bounces

hidden scarab Jul 19, 2019, 3:47 AM

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yeah if you hit the outside edge of the mantelet you can bounce

errant warren Jul 19, 2019, 5:52 AM

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At tier 10 I have highest wr with leo1, then again I am a super uni. 🤔 @indigo knot

thick rover Jul 19, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Weird flex but ok

cunning vapor Jul 19, 2019, 6:41 AM

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They just wanted to make the Kv220 better than Kv1

graceful storm Jul 19, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I think the welding unit is unnecessary.

teal olive Jul 19, 2019, 7:33 AM

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@graceful storm no

winged barn Jul 19, 2019, 8:05 AM

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@teal oliveyes

jovial arch Jul 19, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Please don't nerf kv1 and kv2 pls 😦

vale sedge Jul 19, 2019, 8:23 AM

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unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Or just kv 1 is op in comparison to tier 4? Which had to be nerfed so the sealclubers would had to find a better thing to do?

novel elk Jul 19, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Tier 5 Heavies are generally too strong. Many of them have higher DPMs than Tier 5 Mediums, which is not the case in other Tiers. I absolutely agree with Titus: Nerfing the armour of the KV-1 is the wrong way, they should rather nerf the Firepower by either removing the 85mm gun or make it shoot slower.

slim rivet Jul 19, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Only for decent players @narrow terrace

deft owl Jul 19, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Strv 74a2 finally getting buff finally

acoustic kelp Jul 19, 2019, 10:40 AM

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When is the next patch

verbal sonnet Jul 19, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Better get your Conway battles in. Next patch give it a significant nerf! Next on their hitlist will be the tier 10 so that the whole line is meh...

dense talon Jul 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Nice tank op P R E M I U M

verbal sonnet Jul 19, 2019, 10:59 AM

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@unique scaffold that is the only thing they are not nurfing on the Conway.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:09 AM

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@verbal sonnet fake news

dense talon Jul 19, 2019, 11:11 AM

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you will increase the number of players in battle and increase the size of the map?

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:12 AM

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You'll find all of these features in PC wot version @dense talon good luck in new game

wet wharf Jul 19, 2019, 11:16 AM

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kv2 did not need a nerf. Everybody complains about getting one shot and stuff but the Kv 2 has so many drawbacks: bad-ish armour, bad speed, worst accuracy in game, worst aim time in game, low amount of health.

twin egret Jul 19, 2019, 11:17 AM

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why blame accuracy, it has the best accuracy, you don't even need to aim in the KV-2, russian bias guide the shells to the target

deft owl Jul 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

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@twin egret Its not the bias who guide the shells. Its Stalin himself.

distant river Jul 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Why are the E75 and the JPII getting a pen buff? They are already better than average tanks... Ah ok sorry i didn't read it too carefully @grizzled sleet

grizzled sleet Jul 19, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Stock guns not their top

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 11:34 AM

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Remove cupola from tortoise, it's about time we do it

stoic acorn Jul 19, 2019, 11:40 AM

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The tier 8 cheiftan needs a pen and an armour buff

distant river Jul 19, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Just a thought for WG, if you are not going to nerf premium tanks then do not buff them. We all know what a mess you make of balencing and if you buff them then you cannot undo it the next update. Get them balenced and get them right the first time you introduce them or make it so you can change them.

stoic acorn Jul 19, 2019, 12:04 PM

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You say that premium tanks can't be nerfed but 2 updates ago the t34 hull armour was nerfed

winged gull Jul 19, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Not the hull armor, but the cupola of the turret

clever void Jul 19, 2019, 12:26 PM

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And the difference is so minimal you can’t even figure out what they did

wet wharf Jul 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Tiger 2: Am I a joke to u WG

distant river Jul 19, 2019, 1:09 PM

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@stoic acorn they did not actually go through with that as far as i know

noble siren Jul 19, 2019, 1:16 PM

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@hearty hawk you cannot remove something that is supposed to be there

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 1:18 PM

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Can they nerf the rate of fire on the su12254...

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 1:22 PM

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@noble siren actually you can and plus the tortoise was just a experimental tank and plus it's wg choice not yours @noble siren. You can learn to flank you know

noble siren Jul 19, 2019, 1:28 PM

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@hearty hawk then learn how to hide that cupola

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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Lol I do because I play AT all the time, you just need to learn to flank or aim

noble siren Jul 19, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Learn how to hide it Omega Lul

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Now you're just out of come backs

coarse harness Jul 19, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Where are the 6.0 charts ?
Don't hide the Charioteer guys☝ 😏

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 2:03 PM

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It got nerfed, what else do you want

drowsy plaza Jul 19, 2019, 2:13 PM

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It got ruined

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Nerf bat hit too hard.

full dew Jul 19, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Buff vk 168 didn't even get it yet but it looks like trash

indigo knot Jul 19, 2019, 2:19 PM

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There are many tech tree tanks that need love before the newly introduced Vk168.01p

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Join the remove the cupola on tortoise movement now

daring stream Jul 19, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Like for buff 183 damage and pen😂 😂 😂

azure tiger Jul 19, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Buff only mobility if there is a buff on the 183 .... mobility of a jg but armor of the rhm

grizzled sleet Jul 19, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Wut? Can I get that in a better syntax

full dew Jul 19, 2019, 2:58 PM

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He is saying something like 183 got trash armour and trash speed but to be honest with the gun it's packing it's balanced imo

graceful storm Jul 19, 2019, 3:13 PM

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@teal olive yes

thick rover Jul 19, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Actually as much as I hated getting flogged by 183 I don't think any nerf to gun handling is reasonable

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Should add new gun sounds...

thick rover Jul 19, 2019, 3:30 PM

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not balance..

twilit crystal Jul 19, 2019, 4:07 PM

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RIP Conway. Wg why are you even touching the 14 cm lol.

clever void Jul 19, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Ya know it is open test and may not be nerfed to the extent shown. But if the 120mm in Conway gets that big a nerf then I’ll just go back to playing my WT

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 4:49 PM

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@unique scaffold to boast it's front armor

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Are collectors tanks safe from nerfs?

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No

quick lichen Jul 19, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Premiums mostly are. Collectors are not

violet sonnet Jul 19, 2019, 5:28 PM

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But they will never be nerfed. Cuz that will cause the loss of trust (however much is remaining) in WG’s actions.
So if they nerf 1 Collector, sales drop i predict

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 5:32 PM

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T6E1 is a premium yet it's getting nerfed. Also one update after it got released

drowsy plaza Jul 19, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Nothing is ‘SAFE’. Collectors are more likely to get hit than Premiums though.

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Everyone needs to understand that balanced tanks are better for long term game health.

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I’m a giant wallet warrior and I support premium nerf’s as needed.

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T6E1 is terrible I fail to see why nerf it.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 5:41 PM

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When can we be able to buy weeb tanks like the nameless and the kuri mori mine?

tulip escarp Jul 19, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Oof

finite pine Jul 19, 2019, 6:23 PM

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restive edge Jul 19, 2019, 6:35 PM

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I got a report for being not here to the tournament and I was here with all my team and we loose who can explain me that please :/

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Wtf why cant i play??

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finite pine Jul 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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This ting needs little balance 🤔

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deft owl Jul 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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@winged gull @stoic acorn Neither hull or turret armor. T34 is untouched.

finite pine Jul 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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M5 accurate best dps and mobility and 410 cp it just idk its overpowerd for tier 3

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tranquil nova Jul 19, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Are they really going to nerf the Conway’s dpm and accuracy next update? As in the test server. Why they didn’t announce it in stream like kv1 & kv2?

grave bear Jul 19, 2019, 7:25 PM

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@tranquil nova because they usually never announce everything

mint osprey Jul 19, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Hello

candid osprey Jul 19, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Whoever controls the AFK tell them to slow the flip down👌🏻

prime oracle Jul 19, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Instead of adding shitty consumables that nobody wants they should fix the fcking simple problems that get worse every update like accepting a tournament room invite, the to big hit boxes from houses or rocks maybe even better something people already ask for since update 5.0 maybe even before, fixing the matchmaking but no. All they do is making the game worse and let people with 50 battles buy tier 10 premium tanks

And of course no dev will answer because it is "chat with devs"

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 8:33 PM

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@prime oracle mm works fine, you cant blame it for every single mistake you make

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I honestly do not understand what can be wrong with random matchmaking

boreal crag Jul 19, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@unique scaffold in wot preriums have that special mm, we here dont (i think, tell me if im wrong) also there are wayyyy too op platoons that should not be allowed (smasher platoon, wz 120, etc....)

grizzled sleet Jul 19, 2019, 8:54 PM

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The only thing I would like to change is for 5k and below to be barred from premium tanks (or until they get to that tier). @drowsy plaza believe me ik

drowsy plaza Jul 19, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@grizzled sleet never happen.

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WG is a For Profit Company

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Besides more nubs means more glory for you.

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More poor players make the game easier for you to do well as a good player. Mediocre players can struggle, but at the end of the day complaining about new players in high tier premium tanks is wasting time.

fluid fable Jul 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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What if they in your team :/

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@boreal crag i got premium tanks and I don't think I got special mm for them lol ,also I don't think it shouldn't be allowed for some tanks to be in same platoon , what's next? Not allowing good players to play together and have fun? @drowsy plaza new players/ noobs are also more keen to buy premium tanks as they can hear from everyone that these are op. @boreal crag kv 2 is lower tier so it have higher influence on mm ,also smasher and wz are prems which were expensive and are pretty rare

boreal crag Jul 19, 2019, 9:25 PM

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@unique scaffold dude wg complains soooo much about kv 2 "ruining" the mm that they dont see smashers or wz 120s,why to nerf kv 2 if newbies are gonna get nuked by smashers our sniped by wz? @unique scaffold smasher rare? wz rare? not influential? Lmao.

spiral gulch Jul 19, 2019, 9:27 PM

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is it just me, or could the challenger actually be better stock? the gun has less pen but still better than comet, and the turret armor is 101 on front as opposed to 50..Thoughts?

drowsy plaza Jul 19, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Hmm

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I may try that and use CS.

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unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Its called same control mode...
Its been there
For almost 3 years now...

grave bear Jul 19, 2019, 10:00 PM

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and fun fact i prefer playing vs pc players even from touch, because same control mode from touch is a nightmare 🤦 playerbase level goes underground

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Remove cupola on tortoise

rocky ravine Jul 19, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Why not just level the playing field, consolidate the lobbies, and reduce wait times all in one fell swoop? New players don’t know about same control mode while they are being clubbed by some reroll.

hearty hawk Jul 19, 2019, 10:58 PM

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mm is fine

slim rivet Jul 19, 2019, 11:08 PM

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MM is fine since it’s random. But teams are getting worst. When I started playing teams where made of 48-52% with some exceptions. Now it’s more like 30 (yeah 30 not kidding) - 45. And the level of skill decreased accordingly. The pool of uni/super uni is decreasing. The pool of average players as well. Only remain the bots.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:08 PM

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True^

vernal rover Jul 19, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Big facts

dim field Jul 19, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Would like to see the hard statistics of it. Could be interesting to see a chary of number of active players and what their wr is over the course of wotb each update.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:26 PM

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This channel is for vehicle balance. Not MM and not control modes.

rocky ravine Jul 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Really? Because the title just says balance-discussion.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:32 PM

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@rocky ravine read the pinned messages.

worldly sphinx Jul 19, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Buff the amx 13 57. Just give it the same camo rating as the amx 13 75. There is no reason for it to have such a low camo value.

junior prairie Jul 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

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WG, thank you so much for the Foch...after 6.2 it will become interesting tank.

rocky ravine Jul 19, 2019, 11:41 PM

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I must not have big enough eyes to see what you do.

unique scaffold Jul 19, 2019, 11:45 PM

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It's about TANK balance

drowsy plaza Jul 20, 2019, 1:03 AM

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@rocky ravine this channel is dedicated to Tank Balance Discussions. Not complaining from folks who can’t carry.

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Want to complaint go here #general-blitz-discussion

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I’m not happy about the T6E1 nerf. It’s not a great tank as it is (I’m ace chasing it now) and frankly it’s not awful - but it’s hardly a good tier 4, and the nerf to its avg dmg is going to wreck it’s DPM. Same issue with the Ram II

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Meanwhile I’m 78% in the Fury and can’t fathom why it needs a buff

grizzled sleet Jul 20, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Everyone complainijg about a premium shell nerf

drowsy plaza Jul 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Because the T6e1 needs Prammo again tier 5 Meds, and the Ram needs it’s on a lot of tier 6 Meds - not even talking about heavies

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They already have a Prammo alpha nerf - why make it larger.

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hearty hawk Jul 20, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Remove tortoise cupola, people can flank you know

dim field Jul 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Just buff it's front armor and shoulder armor no model change needed

red condor Jul 20, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Buff the new premium VK. Too slow for the ehh armor it has. Gun happens to miss a lot even if fully aimed in. Armor doesn’t live up to what people say.

violet sonnet Jul 20, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Lol honeymoon period ended that quick for vk?
I do think it’s bs to have to “wiggle” in a slow tank to save your health, wats the point of armor if it got easy visible spots? For something that doesn’t have speed to wiggle lol ur done. Tort is cupola gets it murdered every game once it reaches front lines.

nimble zodiac Jul 20, 2019, 4:25 AM

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You can’t just expect to angle in the open and bounce a lot, strong turret, smaller cupola, just hide the lower glacis and it’s pretty nice. Lots of potential

teal pumice Jul 20, 2019, 4:25 AM

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pls S35 CA's reloading time less

latent snow Jul 20, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Pls change vindicator standard ammo to AP, the heat gets absorbed by tracks no matter what angle.

calm forge Jul 20, 2019, 4:49 AM

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That is very true

teal pumice Jul 20, 2019, 5:28 AM

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that is right

flat bane Jul 20, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Yeah the Vindicator needs that AP

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Make TOG as fast as an RU 251

lusty condor Jul 20, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Make death star auto loader and buff reload to 10 secs it’s trash plz

flat bane Jul 20, 2019, 6:52 AM

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Give Foch 155 4 shots instead of 2 for its auto loader.

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 6:57 AM

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That's too much

peak frigate Jul 20, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Seems like the proposed auto loader might already be op, can’t wait, already loved that tank

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 7:43 AM

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👌 👌

vapid acorn Jul 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I’d like if u gave Löwe vetter rekord time tbh

nimble zodiac Jul 20, 2019, 9:35 AM

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What do you mean @vapid acorn ? If you’re talking about reload time them it’s fine, it’s a sniper gun but not supposed to do that much

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 10:11 AM

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I want to paint my tank with what ever colour and added stiker on wotb please

slim rivet Jul 20, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Why the hell are U all shamelessly begging for tds buff? U don’t need any buff to camp at spawn. I m frankly fed up to read deep noobs asking for reload buff on grille or Foch having 4 shells. Seriously guys, just push ur logic forward and ask for 10000009 hp, 3 meter armor, 100 km/h and 5000 damages per shot with 0.1 second reload. @azure tiger agree. SomEt1meS when I CAmP At sPwan I gET spoTed si Plz gib grILle inVizible N nuClear Weapons cauSe it neEd AiM buff

azure tiger Jul 20, 2019, 11:52 AM

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No reload @slim rivet it is shit when there is a reload ....

kind swallow Jul 20, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Every good player says td's can't get any buffs...
Well, indeed
Im not camping with TD cos for me its useless
Even with 268 on dead rail

shy wren Jul 20, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Camping’s too hard, better be aggressive in a paper thin tank like the Waffle (my thought process)

slim rivet Jul 20, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Yeah better stay at spawn with 2 others apes (3 tds per team) and kill this game which is called <<blitz>>

clever void Jul 20, 2019, 12:35 PM

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WT puts out more consistent dmg averages when it is close support to heavies

indigo knot Jul 20, 2019, 12:38 PM

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@slim rivet i know what you mean but still I think Grille needs buff

slim rivet Jul 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Since 90% td players camp at spawn I d propose to suppress wheels and tracks from them. It won’t change anything on 90% of the maps anyways

indigo knot Jul 20, 2019, 12:57 PM

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But if Tds were to be removed from game it would be no fun at all ....everyone would yolo around in meds or HTs without the fear of getting punished.....afterall Tds punish when someone makes a push or a wrong move

grave bear Jul 20, 2019, 1:05 PM

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No campers= mt and lt yoloing heavies all the time = heavies useless
= rip balance

remove tortoise from the cupola

dusky oxide Jul 20, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Tds are required but right now theres too many of them. Having 5-6 of them in a match means players are scared to use the map.

hearty hawk Jul 20, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Remove the cupola on tortoise

quick lichen Jul 20, 2019, 1:08 PM

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This isn’t #balance-requests

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Or #balance-demands

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@shy wren i had my best game in wt when I was agresive in it....

shy wren Jul 20, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Exactly

deft owl Jul 20, 2019, 1:51 PM

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@hearty hawk Tortoise needs buff. But not removal of cuppola.

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Could we get hungarian tech tree or if no why not?
Somebody?

twilit crystal Jul 20, 2019, 2:04 PM

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WG happily nerfs tanks like the Conway and Charioteer in 1 update but doesnt buff the challenger

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Thank you

queen hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 2:16 PM

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They read it though to gather intel and opinions @unique scaffold

lunar niche Jul 20, 2019, 2:24 PM

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People will camp in any tank. Removing Tds or nerfing them into uselessness won't really help as they will still camp in the next top meds/heavies. And thats even worse.

dreamy crest Jul 20, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Who said tds should be removed from the game?

modern mango Jul 20, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Probably a BC owner

jade cargoBOT Jul 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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dynoSuccess MajorOkdumby driving AT2#1411 was muted

crystal basin Jul 20, 2019, 3:16 PM

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After latest patch, Ive never seen mm broken like it is now. Not sure is this "balance" when other team has 3 Well over 60% players, and 1 47% and losing team has 1 over 55 and rest are 42-49% this thing is breaking game most atm. Not any op armor, or op gun. Any 1 Else noticed Same thing. And this was tier 10 game...

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Yeah because random mm is soo broken

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@crystal basin. Pinned messages. Read them

olive sorrel Jul 20, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I believe grille needs HE pen buff to at least 85 I guess

finite pine Jul 20, 2019, 3:52 PM

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KV-2 is balanced no need to balance that pls

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hoary oar Jul 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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ye

dreamy crest Jul 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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@finite pine Sadly for the noobs it’s the most Op tank 😔

thick rover Jul 20, 2019, 3:59 PM

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🤓

narrow peak Jul 20, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Does anyone know how to record vc on discord?

hoary oar Jul 20, 2019, 4:03 PM

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welp if they are going to nerf the pen by 10 there could be some weak spots that will be invulnerable now or harder to hit so that's just dumb and stupid and my friend is the begginer in the kv-2 and i told him to aim for the weak spots he did , but hit the wrong spot so it's hard enough and also i hate this 10min restriction thing

dreamy crest Jul 20, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I grinded the Russian heavy tech tree only for this tank

dawn plinth Jul 20, 2019, 4:06 PM

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@hoary oar hey I love the KV 2 but the nerf isn’t too bad. You still have the one shorting potential for no armor tanks

finite pine Jul 20, 2019, 4:09 PM

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And it think mauschen needs litle buff

slim rivet Jul 20, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Balance discussion : i have this tank, it needs a buff. I don’t have this tank, it needs a nerf. I m a td pkayer): please buff camo/armor/accuracy/alpha/reload time since I m too stupid to move from spawn. I think pretty much everything has been said. Let’s close this channel @cunning kindle thanks for ur message that’s probably the only relevant post made today

cunning kindle Jul 20, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I dont have the wz 121 and i want it to get a buff instead of 215b which is a perfectly balanced tank coz wz 121 is irrelevant af

Also kv2 getting nerfed is right in line with wg nerfing derp guns at lower tier, they probably nerfed the pen to increase survivability at t6 which makes sense to me

red condor Jul 20, 2019, 4:53 PM

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For the new VK to be so big and slow and with a huge cupola, it should at least have good frontal. Like cmon, the thing has a low amount of health, and nearly anything can pen it.

kind swallow Jul 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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@cunning kindle well, im doing as well in 121 as in 140, T62a
A little bit worse than in E50M, but I think its the funniest med after all from tier X
I love it
Have diamond league camo on it

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 5:40 PM

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After update 6,2 tier 10 will be broken because of Fv215b! This thing will have Hp like Maus, way better gun, and ability to restore Hp. I guess its just the Wg year of Brit tanks 😁 and dont get me wrong i love all brits

teal olive Jul 20, 2019, 5:50 PM

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It... gets a buff... @unique scaffold

grizzled sleet Jul 20, 2019, 5:59 PM

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The only reason people like British tanks is for the hesh

dreamy crest Jul 20, 2019, 5:59 PM

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What about British people?

prime lake Jul 20, 2019, 6:06 PM

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still hesh

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 6:07 PM

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The only other reason is the British turrents

zealous oriole Jul 20, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Or, you know. Historical accuracy. It's not like Israeli Centurions whipped a full Syrian division at Goland heights or anything....

queen hemlock Jul 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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@unique scaffold the Open Test 6.2 is still only a test

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Not like a 10% heal will change much, at best its 250 HP. Plus it's over 15 seconds and any hits will just stop it
The one that needs some rework is the Damage reduction

jade cargoBOT Jul 20, 2019, 8:17 PM

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dynoSuccess Jakerozon07#3278 was muted

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dynoSuccess Stormblade#4404 was muted

vapid acorn Jul 20, 2019, 8:45 PM

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I think Löwe’s reload time could be a little bit better tbh

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Please buff kv2 again

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@queen hemlock i know thats in test mode, but this is where my opinion should be. I understand and actually admire Wg idea to give different abilities to different nations, but it should be considerate very carefully. You/ We know from experience with Wg do things like my english in this post 😁

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Pls no fortnite healing and shields

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Lol

dreamy crest Jul 20, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Im just waiting for an battle pass

unique scaffold Jul 20, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I think the store is the battle pass

finite pine Jul 20, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Are they going to nerf M6A1E2 EXP, M6A1E2?

visual nimbus Jul 21, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Why would they?

deft owl Jul 21, 2019, 12:40 AM

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@finite pine Thats impossible. They never did nerf a tier 8 premium. Even if they were going to nerf a tier 8 premium it wouldnt be M6a2e1 exp.

finite pine Jul 21, 2019, 1:09 AM

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spare lichen Jul 21, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Pururut I f I would, wasn’t the kv5 nerfed?

pallid trench Jul 21, 2019, 2:15 AM

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British people are weak..Iran took over one of your oil tankers

flat bane Jul 21, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Give JG PZ E100 more HE pen 👏 👏 👏

indigo knot Jul 21, 2019, 2:36 AM

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It doesn't need more HE pen

supple jolt Jul 21, 2019, 2:44 AM

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@spare lichen when was the kv5 nerfed?

nimble zodiac Jul 21, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Hey Jageroo players! Did you know you can use AP? 😳😱

loud heron Jul 21, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Instead of nerfing kv 2 they should nerf smasher

spare lichen Jul 21, 2019, 3:30 AM

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I don’t remember exactly but it was a mild armor nerf behind our backs. It was about a year ago I believe

violet sonnet Jul 21, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Tell me how no one is talking about 268 armor profile. How can this td be all bouncy, gotten silent armor buff???

low solar Jul 21, 2019, 4:38 AM

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!p

clever void Jul 21, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Actually 268 seems to have benefited significantly from the +/- 5 rng change.

prime lake Jul 21, 2019, 4:46 AM

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wdym?

safe copper Jul 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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It’s Russian duh

teal olive Jul 21, 2019, 5:29 AM

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@nimble zodiac tbh that’s gotta be the worst counter argument I’ve seen yet.

flat bane Jul 21, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Jg pz e100s HE pen is 85mm 😂 for a 170mm, don't you think that's a bit low.

thick rover Jul 21, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Grille's one is 75 T_Y

nimble zodiac Jul 21, 2019, 6:33 AM

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I’m not sure what armor scale interval on meds that would break anyways, unless it’s like a 40mm buff

unique scaffold Jul 21, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Where is jgpz's 420mm heat pen 😤 😤 😤

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It was an overkill anyways

teal olive Jul 21, 2019, 6:58 AM

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Yeah it was pretty overkill tbh.... but it didn’t need to be nerfed all the way down to standard TD heat pen. Also... improve the HE pen ffs. It makes 0 sense that grille and jag have lower pen than all other 150mms... and jag has a 170

unique scaffold Jul 21, 2019, 7:10 AM

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It makes the game less diverse when every tank of the same class has same penetration. Jgpz should be penetration boss, as well some underperforming mediums like wz121, stb1 and maybe leopard, could have 310-320 heat pen and 260-270 apcr.

thick rover Jul 21, 2019, 8:33 AM

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STB is kinda good in it's current state, though I agree with some aspects of what you said, giving more diversity in these stats may make it hard for balance too. Personally I am fine with each class having a similar range of penetration numbers

grave bear Jul 21, 2019, 8:52 AM

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@unique scaffold LMAO are u crazy?? a med tank with 320 heat pen aka 353 with calibrated shells?? basically u can pen everything easier than most heavy tanks
or even that smart Standard pen shell, as high as average heavy tank mounting Calibrated shells, but with rammer
@unique scaffold because they're heavies
anything above 300 pen gold in a med tank is broken.
thats why all meds pen values got nerfed to that level, because they were broken, but fun fact: they had less pen than what you want them to have

unique scaffold Jul 21, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Heavies trash each other with 340mm heats so why not. I mean at least wz-121 with 122 mm like heavies should be in advantage, cause +1,5s reload for additional 50dmg isn't a good trade. @grave bear they had 330mm heats and it was the best solution. Also remember meds were nerfed twice: lower penetration and lower heat dmg.

kind swallow Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Just use calibrated shells
I use it in almost every tank, except td's

frigid tusk Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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In fact, except reload, tier x medium guns are pretty similar

unique scaffold Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 AM

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@kind swallow So we came to the conclusion it's not high penetration breaking the game, but calibrated shells

slim rivet Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Lmao what breaks a game called blitz results from 3 tds camping at spawn every game @unique scaffold don’t be ridiculous, we all know that the game is slowed down because we all fear loosing 2/3 of our HP when we play our meds too aggressively. Also the aim of the game is to destroy the enemy. It’s not just about spotting campers @quartz steeple agreed. I don’t want tds to be removed. I just want their spam to be limited. Actually u got 3 tds per team almost every game, mostly 183, camping at spawn. Their alpha should remain limited and their passive gameplay should be speed up somehow @frigid tusk a first step could be to remove the ability to gain extra camo value when u don’t move. A second could be to introduce more meds LIGHTS and heavies (last lines where mostly tds, not to mention the badger). A third could be to limit the alpha / burst and not give an auto loader to the Foch

kind swallow Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Im using it and im doing this pretty looking 3k avg on it
Reload is maybe long, but it is nice
@slim rivet well yes, u cant even spot them ofc cos meds dont have good view range
Love sth like
Fv183
Jageroo
Grille or WtpzIV