@deft owl Personally think that it is the best T10 scout along with the BC 25t
#tank-balance-discussion
gaunt coyote
teal mortar
Why AMX 13 90 have worst reload at VI gun than AMX 13 75?????
*wrose
It doesn't make any sense
visual nimbus
13 90 is pretty good
exotic pelican
maybe because it's a bigger gun
tender nexus
Guys the a20 is BUFFED like crazy
indigo knot
Yup ....played 10 matches ....got 5 aces and 1.5 avg .....its too fun .....but as I was playing I kind of felt that Matilda is OP for new players ....many new players were having trouble against it ......the Hetzer traverse is crazy felt like I was up against E25
tender nexus
Its he and heat penetration capabilities are the same
indigo knot
I also feel that there is to much difference between tier 4 and tier 5 tanks ......and tier 5 and tier 6 tanks
Fighting when bottom tiered in these tier 4 and tier 5 tanks is way difficult especially new players
severe heron
nerf A-20 pls
deft owl
@gaunt coyote Lmao grille 15 isnt even close to being a spotter. Its camo rating is garbage and view range isnt even close to bc.
Are you sure we are playing the same game?
gaunt coyote
@deft owl I just love to yolo with it. 🤷
+I said along with the BC, it does not mean that it is the same as BC 😉
lunar scaffold
im grinding the t62a line now but think im gona grind obj263 for a td
rancid drift
Going along with what was said about bottom tier fighting. I sold my at7 because I was frustrated by the fact that I was always at the bottom of tier 8 battles where I can’t pen anyone and everyone can pen my cupola. That with slow speed and a low damage gun makes the td unbearable to play. Either buff the cupola to match the rest and give it back it’s reputation of “iron wall” or make it so that only so much damage can be done to the cupola. It doesn’t make sense in real life that if someone shoots the commanders cupola 20 times that the entire tank gets destroyed.
austere plank
Isn't A20 supposed to have far less h.e. than 95mm?
tranquil wadi
I tested it in battle and I think the numbers there are just inaccurate
unique scaffold
The pen listed is accurate. A20 does 95 pen on HE, 105 pen with calibrated shells. It was most likely a clerical error in the update.
tranquil wadi
Definitely not 95mm of HE pen...there was yellow on a crusader and most tanks with decent armor was red
I mean, I drove it myself for a couple battles
unique scaffold
I've tested it in training rooms. The pen listed is accurate. You can pen a KV-1 for full HE damage.
Contributors are also testing it and confirming the tank is broken. WG will fix it.
tranquil wadi
I stand corrected then. Not sure what I was doing wrong then in battle or whatever lol
clever void
Still low dpm and really bad accuracy. I think they meant it to be
stray gazelle
A20 was fun when it went 64 km/h, now it seems so slow
proven helm
The tank still has poor gun hendeling so u have to be in the open alot to aim to pen with that he. So u will mostlikely be taking more hits then full penning he. Unless u play it like a bt7 arty and shotgun the tank.
dusky oxide
If i get the chance to buy a wz120ft with gold im selling every last one of my collectors. Im tired of complaining about the meta, id rather be part of destroying it.
mighty spear
a20 has 95 mm of he pen now tho
proven helm
thats assuming u actually hit the thing, not hit tracks or anything, pen, and not be waiting to aim for almost 7 seconds.
@unique scaffold i dont think it was a mistake
unique scaffold
the mistake was likely a clerical error in the programming itself. a copy/paste from the HEAT pen to introduce HE shells, but forgetting to lower the HE pen values after pasting in coding. the picture you show is just a copy/paste from the code changes in 5.10 and wouldn't reflect the error in the coding itself.
deft owl
@gaunt coyote Grille 15 is one of the worst spotter in game. I mean the entire game. It doesnt have any advantage at spotting. Even the Damn is-4 can spot more effective then grille 15.
gaunt coyote
But I still like to play it that way. Maybe also wrong channel for this
dusky oxide
Im conflicted, he uses his grille to scout but also thinks his opinion is valuable :D
grave quarry
Is T57 Heavy OP?
meager spruce
When are the statistics for tiers 8,9 and 10 from update 5.9 coming out in #devs-answers ?
unique scaffold
Soon™
dusky oxide
I wish someone took the data from blitzstars and put it in graphs so we could see the performance of the avg player.
somber zealot
So
I did 1700dmg in a batle with my IS
In the end of the batle i was full with full life 1300/1300
I lost 5k
Thanks wotb your update ruined everything
unique scaffold
Show the credit screen @somber zealot
somber zealot
unique scaffold
No. The detailed credit screen @somber zealot
somber zealot
Oh
I alweys used the same things the same amount of amunition, and before update i was erning money...
unique scaffold
You spent a lot of credits on ammo. You were either spamming pramo and missing or just missing in general. You need to land those shots and get more damage.
somber zealot
I always used the same amount of ammo
unique scaffold
You either missed or bounced a lot of shots. You damage is low for that amount of expenses.
somber zealot
And i still the same nub
Im not more bad even better, i still the same nub
indigo knot
If you use provisions without a premium account you can't make credits generally
meager spruce
I have a question. Do tanks which can not have a camo mounted on them (like IS3 Defender, Lupus and so on) have the cammo bonus automatically applied to them according to the tanks type (TD,light, medium, TD)?
deft owl
https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/obj-252u
Bruh its there.
Luckily lower plate is only 100mm instead of 140mm.
clever void
So it’s gonna be like WZ110 with massive lower plate
meager spruce
@clever void it is the most controversial tank in WoT so idk if it is gonna be like WZ110 with massive lower plate
clever void
True true. It will depend what the auto bounce angle is on lower plate. If it can be pened easily with Heat then I’m not too concerned
meager spruce
I am not concerned about the lower plate, I am worried about the upper plate.
brazen frost
@tranquil wadi something is very strange with the HE on the A20. I’ve seen armor panels go from 100% pen to red, with no yellow in between. I’m thinking the splash radius must be really small, which would explain why splashes are rare and very low damage (under 50 usually).
@meager spruce I believe so...but I’ll have to test that
pastel nimbus
Strv buff, hes trash
unique scaffold
STRV is my second highest wr tank. It is fine.
pastel nimbus
Against ARL?
unique scaffold
Don't fight a ARL head on. It is a team game. Flank and engage from the side.
pastel nimbus
If I have to, because my flanks are unsecured, i cant so anything.
unique scaffold
I don't see a issue... But sure buddy the STRV. Maybe I'll be able to get it to 75% wr.
pastel nimbus
Or nerf the ARL, I mean Tier VIII Gun on a Tier VI heav, absolutely Not op
elfin heath
Strv can’t be played like a normal medium. You make your shots and run while reloading. So many people I see play the thing hoping the armor will magically save them. ARL is fine because sides are weak. You can’t just assume you’ll be 1 vs 1 an ARL every time you play. That tier 8 gun is trash btw. It’ll get you killed.
pastel nimbus
Every round I play my team is useless als they ARL has super mates that secure bis flanks.
elfin heath
Idk what to tell you. I have no problem killing ARLs even after update.
unique scaffold
ARL is over buffed and in my opinion is due for a Nerf.
pastel nimbus
@elfin heath maybe you have good mates, mine are Bots tho
elfin heath
Something has to be good in that line. After the AMX M4 45, everything is paper 😂.
pastel nimbus
Yeah, but in Tier V als VI they're op af
elfin heath
If you can’t beat them, join them. Play it like a mad man and show how broken it is. The more people with insane WRs in it, the more likely WG will do something (i.e. Vk100.01p and Mäuschen).
pastel nimbus
VK is a tank thats needs a nerf.
elfin heath
It has been, you can actually pen the thing frontally now.
pastel nimbus
You know the Emil IX gun? If you snipe, you cant damage him, because bis lower plate is too small.
And running in is suicide.
twilit crystal
vk is pretty bad lol now. I dont really see the difference between and an IS tanks armor profile.
cobalt silo
Guys did u see the A20
kindred python
Nerf A 20
elfin heath
A-20 is still cannon fodder 😂
prime viper
whats more outragious 105mm gun (t82) or 105mm HE pen at tier 4 (A20)
i still want my t82 to have 105 back xd
kindred python
yeah but A-20 HE is as good as it's HEAT
prime viper
im saying if they gave the 105HE pen to A20 (with calibrated shells) then they should give t82 its 105 back
elfin heath
And give the 10,5 back to the pz4g, and give the leopard back it’s speed, handling, and 50mm cannon. Where does it stop?
prime viper
@elfin heath 5.5 was train wreck anyways for any old players
elfin heath
@prime viper I totally agree. The difference from 4 to 5 now is almost as nasty as going from 5 to 6. After 5.10, it looks like tier 5 kind of stands alone.
prime viper
yea
twilit crystal
LOL How was 5.5 a wreck for old players. IS old players a code word for seal clubbers because im thankful for the 11k gold I got from 5.5
grave quarry
5.5 isn't bad lol
unique scaffold
@prime viper @elfin heath
I completely disagree. 5.5 was only a Trainwreck for career seal clubbers who had their stat padding crutches taken away from them.
prime viper
@unique scaffold i am not a career seal clubber but all it did was train wreck the whole tech tree and as i agreed with removal of some worthless tanks i did not agree with changing the other things
elfin heath
@unique scaffold we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’ve tried grinding new tech trees since 5.5 and have found the lower tiers to be over nerfed. While I agree it stopped some of the more prolific lower tier seals clubs, it effectively pushed them into tier 6-8 and has caused chaos on a massive scale.
prime viper
i do not feel that making the game dumbed down for new players was the way to go b/c then when they get to higher tier they will still suck instead of ever learning anything
flat zephyr
Pssst
Mention ke ni otsu amlost got buffed when all others did get nerfed so why not seal club with that
elfin heath
Having training bots until tier 3 for the first 100 games or so is ridiculous as well. Simply pairing people with like number of games and a similar win rate would have fixed stat padding.
prime viper
yup and how about the A20 rn 95 he pen
elfin heath
Like I said earlier about the ARL. Use it to the extreme. Make the WR levels insanely high, WG will fix it from there.
prime viper
i use a tankenstein at tier 7 or t28 def at tier 8 xd
elfin heath
Just club with the VK100.01P. Problem solved.
flat zephyr
I think seal clubbing is not related to having almost all tanks nerfed.
The thing that might help to stopping seal clubbing is the match maker that puts seal clubbers against each other rather than newly started players
prime viper
yea that might help and tbh tier 3 aint were the most clubbing happened in old days it was is5 at tier 8 2 in a toon
i only played 600 battles in t82 b/c i loved it not b/c i was rly even that good in it only like 52% wr
i still love it tbh as long as i heat spam in it
flat zephyr
Oo I loved my t82 too. 48% winrate but still loved it. It was long ago when I was an absolute noob😂
grave bear
put newly started players vs newly started players only means giving them higher stats and then get them put with op players only and then go down again
= totally useless and will just ruin my stats
prime viper
yup
flat zephyr
Well, I somehow agree with that. There should be a balanced mixture of both in battles
prime viper
rly 5.5 made low tier all the same without any variation rly so they have no idea as new players what to expect once they get to a higher tier then they all suck
sullen vault
Variation never helped with the noobs.
prime viper
altho now A20 is OP as OP can be and KENI OTSU is unstoppable by any tier 3 in the game b/c 105 was removed from tier 3
sullen vault
keni was always unstoppable
A-20 is prob just a mess up
flat zephyr
I don't think 5.5 was a good idea at all. Maybe I'm wrong but now, it's much easier to get bored at lower tiers so they might just leave the game
prime viper
and variation helps a LOT b/c without it they cant learn game mechanics we were all noobs at one point and w only learned by trying all the lower tier tanks with VARYING play styles to learn each one
sullen vault
No,we don't need a gajillion tanks as a way to understand the game more.What we need is demonstration not variation.
flat zephyr
Variation does play it's role in demonstration btw
prime viper
its not the # of tanks its how different they are
sullen vault
I dont recall the lower tier tanks being "different".you just slap paper armor on almost 90% of the tanks,decent mobility,either a 75mm or a 57mm and you have a lower tier
prime viper
rn all we have rly are mediums and lights at tier 1-3 and a lot of 4 all with same pen alfa and reload and NO armor at all
flat zephyr
Well even if it doesn't help at all, the come to tier 6 or 7 and suddenly find a wide range of tanks that none of them are the same
sullen vault
Tier 10 is far more in terms of "different",lower tiers i never saw as any sort of variation.Was always boring to me
prime viper
t18 was WAY difference maus of tier 2 compared to the at-1 with better gun but no armor
the british tanks had 200 alfa shots at tier 2 now everything does what 40 dmg
sullen vault
meduims and lights always dominated the scene in lower tiers
flat zephyr
Well you had t18, hetzer and Matilda for heavily armored ones, bt2 and bt7 for the really fast ones, some useless British tanks that all of them were the same actually except they had autoloaders
sullen vault
Unless you wanna count the dum tanks like hetzer and su85b which were just completely over the top tanks that did not help anyone whatsoever.
prime viper
ummmm the french 40 with a crapton of armor
sullen vault
Derp guns imo are not helpful to the lower tiers
twilit crystal
I still dont see how 5.5 hurt veterans. Anyway even if it did WG bribed me with my 11k gold
flat zephyr
Also you had the only turretless medium 😂
prime viper
that turretless medium was OP tho xd and also the derp guns at tier 3 only had HE making u have to aim and if u missed punishing u severely
sullen vault
Derp guns.never.helped.
flat zephyr
@twilit crystal It doesn't hurt veterans, it hurts people like me that had almost all of the premiums with gold camo on them
prime viper
they tough ppl how to aim and take in the factor of bullet drop and how slow the shell moves
flat zephyr
@sullen vault so remove 183😂
sullen vault
Derp guns throughout never was healthy to the game or never balanced correctly.im not talking about above alpha on higher tiers like 268 or foch but 183,kv2.
prime viper
dude we arnt talking anything except lower tier not 1200 alfa guns
sullen vault
Removing 3/4 of a tanks hp is way to severe on a gamemode consisting of merely seven players.removing so much hp as in british or hetzer is just not at all balanced
prime viper
unless they missed and u skrewed them over for it
flat zephyr
@twilit crystal also you know, I had spent money on those tanks, I'm not getting the gold equal to the amount I spend for them. Its less than 3/4 of it so that hurts
@sullen vault or even one shot for kv2. It doesn't help but players might want to learn how to play it safer
sullen vault
You don't need a broken gun to demonstrate a player to play safer,thats so idiotic
prime viper
no but it shows them the pros and cons of a 23 second reload
flat zephyr
Well imagine a gun that deals 1/15 of your health per shot, it doesn't encourage me to play it safe I would be honest
prime viper
and broken is all personal opinion there are PLENTY of ppl who HATE the big guns and swear that they suck then their are ppl who love them and say they are OP
quiet badge
i think both types exist
flat zephyr
I think the same. They both should exist
sullen vault
im sorry but "broken" is not a personal opinion at all,and what you stated kinda lean towards my point of what broken is.
flat zephyr
So you say 183's gun is broken?
quiet badge
people who only rely on the big guns are terrible, and there are people who actually do well in them and use it well
sullen vault
theres a difference between broken and overpowered.
flat zephyr
183's gun is broken or overpowered then?
sullen vault
you not knowing this fears me.Its broken.
quiet badge
wg could reduce the pen on it, but i think damage is fine as it is on the 183
digital flax
600 splash on my turret in a t62a is very balanced
flat zephyr
The broken thing that has the highest alpha with the biggest reload time and the worst aim is broken just because it can deal 3/4 of your health
@digital flax a jg.pz.e100 would do that easily
quiet badge
or maybe increase aim time, reduce traverse, or decrease turret turning angle...?
digital flax
i had the smallest part of my turret out when i checked in replays
flat zephyr
That would be RNG but a jageroo would do that
quiet badge
well im sorry 01100001, rng can be biased at times
digital flax
ik but at 250 metres on the move
flat zephyr
I have seen shots from 183 that a grille can't be that accurate. But it's still RNG and isn't related to gun.
Mentioning jagero, I HEed side of a mouse for 600 so ...
Nerf jagero
quiet badge
Still rng
elfin heath
Just buff the heavies in tier 10 😂
digital flax
give amx 50b higher elevation
sullen vault
ya you guys have no understanding of what broken entitles but just think its a higher degree of overpowered
flat zephyr
Ok bye
quiet badge
Ima just stick to my 6-8 tier tanks
digital flax
how do you get veterans rank
flat zephyr
You must have 20k+ battles in your account
digital flax
i would have 20k if i kept playing over my 2 year drought of not playing wot
open lynx
red trench
Idea of a new matchmaking :
Players with a win rate <50% vs players with a win rate >50%.
It's fair because good players will always be good and noob will always be noob, and there would be less rage and less report (for inactivity) because noobs will understand that they are noobs.
gilded pivot
But that's not fair... "Waa waa" just enacting the noobs
red trench
@gilded pivot Why ?
gilded pivot
Read
red trench
@gilded pivot Yeah less rage.
@gilded pivot And noobs will finally play well if they want to win a battle Lol
If you want more good players in the game this is the only solution. :D
vivid citrus
Literally the worst idea ever
gilded pivot
U got it wrong
red trench
Explain me why it's not a good idea?
gilded pivot
<45, 45-55, 55>( I think I got that the right way round)
vivid citrus
You are not the smartest player out there apparently
red trench
@vivid citrus I'm a good player but I'm Always in bad team who rage all the time.
vivid citrus
@red trench you rage, just keep your mouth shut and carry harder
red trench
@vivid citrus why ? People will report less XD
This is a big problem those reports, not only for me. So... Do you have a good Idea to solve this problem?
vivid citrus
What reports?
red trench
@vivid citrus Do you play the game or no ?
Report for inactivity....
vivid citrus
Are you inactive?
red trench
@vivid citrus no
But some players Always rage and want to report other sometimes for no reason just because they rage, and bad players
vivid citrus
Losing is not your team fault, its your own fault
gilded pivot
Hmm not always but most of the time
red trench
@vivid citrus Wtf XD you have no brain it's a multiplayer game we are in a team. I will not do all the work lol.
vivid citrus
@red trench do all the work or lose, thats how the game goes, and stop crying about it here
red trench
How it's possible to have this in your team
willow junco
183 sucks now , cant hit a maus from 100meters away
red trench
@willow junco yep the accuracy is very bad on 183
willow junco
They nerfed it so badly , from now on jgpze100 rules the tier 10 since the buff
white vessel
Blaming your team is the best excuse
red trench
@willow junco I think dev don't even play the game cause it's always the case
@white vessel yeah but when you are the only good player in your team. XD
white vessel
Calling yourself good and everyone else bad is rude
willow junco
Idk , i always have to play with 45%noobs in my team , 55%s at enemy team , Im 62% so
red trench
Good for me is between 55 and 60% of win rate
white vessel
Stop looking at career stats
red trench
@white vessel why because you have bad stats lol
white vessel
Yeah my stats are so bad, i cry every night
But i cry even more about others stats
But the best is when noobs cry about noobs
willow junco
Noobs cant drive their tank properly , always run into trouble , cant hit the weak spot , die in first minute , some times they go afk. Blame me for cant carry their asses
dim field
Always matching players with under 50% witu others under 50% and matching those 50+ with other 50+ just move everyone to 50% over time. This means those who would usually have a 40% are still gonna be matched with players who would normally have a 60%. You're just rigging matchmaking
Also this isn't the place to discuss mm
elfin marlin
183 camo realy sucks.... When you fire a shot you get immediately spotted even if you are over 400 m away.
gilded pivot
well duh it can one shot my tanks at t10
elfin marlin
So does the grill, I shot a is-4 in full hp frontally dead
The grill has a huge gun shield and is less spotted than the 183
Even the jpe100 gets less spotted
No enemy can spot you from over 350m away......
Btw.... That is4 was about 150-200m away from my grill and he didn't spot me. I killed him I one shot using AP shell while he was on the move
humble spear
It's not that huge
elfin marlin
Jpe100 is huge
humble spear
I mean the gun shield of the grille 15
elfin marlin
The 183 gets spotted even on places where it is absolutely impossible. The light bulb goes on and off like a disco light
Gun shield is small but tall
indigo knot
Jag has worst camo in tier 10 TDs
183 deserves to be there ....with such a big gun it should be like this ....its fine as it is
cyan frost
elfin marlin
@indigo knot but you agree with me that if an 183 is behind mountains and away from every enemy player over 350m you shouldn't get spotted.
Even if you shoot across the map while the enemy is 400 m away from you, all of them, you shouldn't get spotted. The view range of all tier 9-10 tanks isn't that big
dim field
What was the point of posting that screenshot?
indigo knot
The view range is 313 max ....so at 350 you are not gonna get spotted
humble spear
@dim field Prolly naming and shaming bad players
elfin marlin
And yet it did.... Even when I was behind the mountains
indigo knot
Someone else must have spotted not the player upfront
elfin marlin
No the enemy were all together. I count them on the minimap
A player from another clan, you probably know him from YouTube, master_shadow_hunter was telling me the same thing
He have played over 10k battles in 183. He also has an other account named m_shadow_hunter
Gtg now, sorry
bold dagger
you know, I'd have removed that, but I'm pretty sure that's his account lol
humble spear
English, yeah?
inner dune
Seems he can't speak English, so I said it in German, he rant's about the Teams and falls in conspiracy theories about WG riggs the MM and doesn't see that he maybe has a bad day 🙌
humble spear
What the...
shadow pecan
This its my team all game thx wargaming...
fluid creek
when will they fix this?
dusky oxide
Youre not supposed to make many credits at tier x. So never
dusky oxide
humble spear
what
tropic sorrel
Hey Ribble wanna give us a couple more for open testing? 😂
fluid quartz
The role ytb for pantoufleee pls
coarse dawn
What is the counter-balance to the KV2 super derp gun
void pewter
an lttb
coarse dawn
And if you don’t have an Lttb. Say a medium like T34
jade cargoBOT
Thomas_406#6756 has been warned.
indigo knot
Kv2 is counter for kv2
elfin heath
Anything can counter kv2. Just use mind tricks to get it to miss then burn it down during its ridiculously long reload 😂
iron lynx
Hulldown and make him miss
Then kill him
unique scaffold
Rarely does the known KV-2 kill me. It is the unseen "sniper" KV-2 that seems to get me.
I don't die from KV-2's often and I kill them far more often than they kill me but it is incredibly frustrating to get one shot killed by some random 43%er who lands a lucky shot from across the map.
A mechanic that allows this to happen is bad for the game.
gilded ember
But its fun
humble spear
If you're looking for game-related issues, wrong channel, go here #570204768857882624
autumn geyser
A - 20
unique scaffold
Also it's just an average Blitz player
red trench
@unique scaffold I played kv2 and I have a winrate of 58,7%
unique scaffold
Not all KV-2 players are bad.
Nearly all bad players are KV-2 drivers.
🤣
worn sierra
l o g i c 1 0 0
red trench
@unique scaffold it's true sometimes. But I play kv2 only for fun and I have a good rng on this tank :D
slate arrow
clever void
90% wr in KV-2 🤣
twilit crystal
no because the leo is balanced on blitz with russian med dpm and good gun handling
small flame
when is wargaming gonna buff the ISU-130
modest lotus
I think the grille could use a slight elevation and depression buff to keep it competitive with the ever growing t10 td pool
twilit crystal
ISU 130 probably just needs a moderate pen buff by +15 on the premium high alpha and +25 for the standard rounds
indigo knot
I would really be happy if Leo1 gets a touch more buff on handling to the same levels as T62a ....
small flame
it doesnt need it
sonic beacon
What happened to the terrain-resistance co-efficient for the Tier V-VI medium and heavy tanks? I'm crossing the sand dunes and the grasslands at 75-80% of the speed I was getting before the update!
loud crow
twilit crystal
its not a bug just WG being lazy
small flame
shocking
dusty egret
Lmao
deft owl
@twilit crystal Isu - 130 needs more dpm. With ap rounds this thing has worse dpm then regular ısu-152 which makes absolutely no sense.
flat zephyr
I would prefer more penetration and accuracy than dpm
small flame
agreed. it doesnt need more dpm
flat zephyr
They buffed the accuracy some updates ago but I think it still needs some buff. Accuracy or pen will do.
Also I like to see its credit co- efficiency get better instead of accuracy or pen. That would also be good
analog niche
Did 4k dmg. In tier 9 vs 10 and -2 points tell me how it works
Did almost half of the team dmg
median gust
You lost
grave bear
lmao i lost a tier 6 battle with 5400 dmg vs tier 7. what are u on about
dim field
Dmg isn't everything and you lost the match. That's why you lost 2.
I don't know if you versing 4 unranked and 2 people who are 1-2k below you also had any impact
twilit crystal
it has the best dpm of any tier 8 td using the premium AP rounds. The problem is that 195 pen isnt really enough for a t8 td to use those rounds. It needs a pen buff to around 215-220 for those rounds with the standard rounds having 250-260
unique scaffold
There are way too many 7 vs 0 lopsided victories. It is like the RNG is screwed up and one side starts bouncing all its shells .
twilit crystal
@bold dagger does that count as blaming MM is rigged ^
coarse dawn
Cmon matchmaking is fAiR tO aLL
bold dagger
@analog niche dude you're at 5k. you should know by now that once you get that high, you're not earning like 30 points for a win and 30 points for a loss. besides, you did a lot of damage but lost, so it makes sense that you should go somewhere just around even
austere bone
The type 62 needs a buff in either armor wise or its pen
twilit crystal
lol wat
ebon compass
Lmao “type 62 needs a buff”
slim rivet
So does the t22
twilit crystal
wz 120 gft needs a buff
slim rivet
Speed, armor and dpm yeah
twilit crystal
needs hp and gun depression buff. It isnt top class
stone frigate
i thought in rating battles everyones supposed to have around the same rating
that screenshot makes me question rating battles mm now
versed fable
the is4 could use a gun depression buff
stone frigate
or maybe they changed rating battles so its like the random battles mm
grave bear
the average points you see of both teams are only of the guys without calibration still on going. the 2 teams are balanced because the game knows hidden stats of these calibration players and matches them well.
twin egret
Wargaming forgot to buff T-44
grave bear
T44 is strong enough, i like it
twin egret
@grave bear stop spreading lies
grave bear
Lmao please.
twin egret
122mm can't compete with the T-34-3 or any other 122m, it's 100mm gun is slower than the T-54 Lightweight's
gilded pivot
give 122mm a 15 sec reload... 😃
twin egret
give it 12
grave bear
@twin egret T44 has more gun depression, more hull armor, and has an Amazing accuracy on the move.122m gun is not even counted as a t44 gun.
t44 is for 100mm gun.
gilded pivot
that probably would be OP... no point in playing the other guns...
twin egret
"amazing accuracy on the move" I beg to differ
gilded pivot
wait... its Russian accuracy... so very accurate
twin egret
@grave bear historically the T-44 had a 122mm, concluding you're wrong
grave bear
@twin egret HISTORICALLy we had no stupid tank based games
gilded pivot
it was tested... and had an ugly turret and hull
twin egret
the gun was specifically made for the T-44
grave bear
@twin egret there is only 1 med tank with better accuracy on the move than t44
i dont give a f A* of historical accuracy. we're talking about A GAME
wake up a bit pls
twin egret
you mean centurion, Panther 2, and a load of other tanks?
gilded pivot
time to search...
grave bear
as you can see, out of 22 tanks there is only 1 with better accuracy on the move than t44.
twin egret
you know not everything from Blitz Hangar is right
grave bear
lmao i should stop talking with 10000 IQ
twin egret
It still needs a buff....
grave bear
blitz hangar is more accurate than any other existing thing.
maybe you're confusing between MIN. ACCURACY and ACCURACY ON THE MOVE, are 2 totally different things. there are many med tanks with better min accuracy than t44, but ON THE MOVE, t44 is the best
@gilded pivot no one cares about that gun really, go play T34-2 if u want that
gilded pivot
and with the 122mm?
twin egret
T-34-3 has almost the same armor
grave bear
T34-3 is a whole different tank and has 1k times better armor, since it's a Type59 with 122mm gun
twin egret
but has better DPM than the 100mm
gilded pivot
hang on tho… the dispersion factors add to the accuracy...
grave bear
T34-3 is a prem tank btw. the tech tree one is t34-2
and t44 has way better mobility and gun depression than both of them
gilded pivot
so standard is 0.317 + 0.102 = 0.419...
if that makes sense...
twin egret
at this point dispersion doesn't even matter at tier 8 tbh
I see ISU's with stock 152mm gun hitting tanks with aim circle at it's widest
grave bear
T34-2 has the same no armor hull as t54 ltw and same turrer, but is 2k times slower
gilded pivot
that is special tho… its an ISU... and it has a 152mm
twin egret
it's a small tank though, and a good side and face hugger
grave bear
@twin egret so what the heck are u talking about? so yeah alpha damage doesnt count because my 310 dmg gun but does always 400
@twin egret T34-2 is a t54 lwt with 122mm, but 13k times slower
T34-3 is a type59 with 122mm, still slower than t44 and has worse gun than t34-2.
twin egret
@grave bear actually they both go the same speed and not that much slower
grave bear
OMG max speed counts nothing
twin egret
I'm talking about the average speed...
grave bear
so you're totally wrong because t44 is way faster than t34-2
twin egret
i'm talking about the comparison of the T-34-3 with the T-44
grave bear
t44 needs no buffs, play it better, cya.
(t34-3 has around same mobility as t34-2, if not even worse)
twin egret
than show me @grave bear
grave bear
this is t34-3
twin egret
I want the average speed, not ground effectivness
grave bear
this is t44
twin egret
The Average Speed
grave bear
Average speed and ground effectiveness are the same thing.... are you dumb or what?
twin egret
Show me the average speed jeez what's so hard @grave bear
grave bear
the average speed is a totally useless parameter made by wg, to see that you need a fully equipped t44 and a fully equipped t34-3 in your garage
twin egret
This thing please
grave bear
this stupid average speed says that 140 and t62a have the same average speed, when 140 is way faster.
OMG ARE U TRYING TO TROLL ME OR WHAT
I KNOW WHAT AVG SPEED IS
READ what i write
somber forum
! stoxc is right
twin egret
mhm yes same average speed but have you taken account on the point decimals
twin egret
T-44 needs slight DPM buff that's all
somber forum
lol no
grave bear
btw t44 is slightly faster than what's shown in the pic, it was mounting 122mm gun which is heavier.
with 100mm is even faster.
It needs NO dpm buff. it has alpha damage. t44 with same dpm as panther II or centurion, but +80 alpha? crazy?
twin egret
how much DPM does T-34-3 have?
grave bear
1900, t44 2215
somber forum
they are different tanks with different play styles, it is like comparing a heavy and a medium
grave bear
Panther II has 2400 dpm... if you buff t44's dpm panther II becames even more powercreeped....
panther II needs a buff, not t44
twin egret
Success Time Wasted
grave bear
?
somber forum
scorpion g obviously needs a buff, right. Lol jk
grave bear
@twin egret wdym
twin egret
I needed to waste time
grave bear
......
somber forum
@grave bear what he means is he lost the argument, and he is unwilling to try and see what you are saying just trying to get his point put into the game
omg why does slow mode have to be so long
grave bear
i think that if someone sucks in a tank, shouldnt go and say everywhere it needs a buff
80% of ppl around there saying tiger II is trash and needs a buff, well i have 2700 avg dmg in it, if u want me hit 3k keeo saying tiger II needs a buff
twin egret
tbh I'm actually good in the tank, I just needed to make dumb argument
somber forum
lol, the cover up, also congrats for accepting the truth @twin egret
grave bear
go read rules if you wanna waste time
twin egret
???
somber forum
tbh I think the T110E3 needs a slight nerf to its commanders hatch
twin egret
you don't shoot the commanders hatch, you shoot the view port on the left of the gun mantlet
grave bear
yes it's a 90mm well plate angled, but there's a flat rettangle in the middle of it
somber forum
not a major one but one that makes it so you can pen it 1 out of 5 or 1 out of 10 times
twin egret
I easily hit it in E 50 M so idk what the problem is
grave bear
somber forum
OwO
twilit crystal
you dont even shoot AP at the e3. You just HE and splash the top
torn cliff
Why does A-20 needs 105 mm of HE pen at tier IV?
I remember WG saying they are stopping seal clubbing
Hmmmmm
twilit crystal
this is the same WG that gave the tiger I and tiger P more dpm and the same pen as tier 8 meds and every tier 7 med besides the comet
flat zephyr
@grave bear 140 isn't way faster, their acceleration is almost the same, 140 being slightly faster
Also I agree t44 doesn't need a buff
flat zephyr
Average speed measures in game also seem correct to me, it indicates acceleration of tanks quite well
@twilit crystal tiger1 wasn't that much broken but tiger p was ooof
twilit crystal
Both were stupidly OP but the tiger P more so
twin egret
I think if the Tier 1 and Tiger P weren't nerfed, they wouldn't be that much of a deal today tbh
Especially when you have the T-34-85, OP Black Prince, Smasher, WZ-122-1G-FT
flat zephyr
Yep I said so, tiger p was super duper op, tiger 1 just op
grave bear
Tiger P is way better than black prince lol
deft owl
@flat zephyr T62a has better accerelation actually. But t62a has worse top speed.
flat zephyr
That isn't true in my opinion, 140 is just slightly faster in acceleration, because of the higher top speed, it can accelerate better at speeds more than 30km
At speeds less than 30, they are completely equal
deft owl
@flat zephyr Your opinion doesnt matter. Its a fact. T62a has better acceleration due to its better terrain resistances.
flat zephyr
@deft owl but it's heavier and if you test it, you will figure it out
deft owl
Do you know the meaning of Hp/t?
flat zephyr
The combination of terrain resistance and hp/t doesn't make sense in blitzstars
So it must be faster than a leo in accelerating but it isn't
deft owl
Leo already has better acceleration due to its better engine. Whats your point here?
flat zephyr
But it has worse terrain resistance so less effective hp/t so it must be slower😐
deft owl
Leo has the same terrain resistances with obj 140. Why would it worse when it has much supperior engine?
flat zephyr
Or else you can compare bat chat with leo, it's obvious which one is faster but the effective hp/t of b.c is worse than leo
deft owl
Leo is faster then bc.
flat zephyr
Then you must visit a doctor
Not leo nor amx 30b can keep up with b.c
Also you can compare cdc with leo. Which one is faster?
If you do some tests, things become obvious
deft owl
@flat zephyr Bruh dude im talking about the in game stats. You are talking about how you feel it. Choose it which one should visit a doctor.
flat zephyr
That isn't in game stats, that is just a website writing
The real in game stats you can see bc is faster or leo
Although it's not the feel, you can easily observe that particular thing in a training room EZ like that
T62 rides smoothly, but it never was faster than 140 and it isn't
deft owl
Thats because 140 has better top speed 62. Leo is always faster then bc.
Sorry but i will stop listening you if you dont give me an objective opinion with proof instead of how you feel.
flat zephyr
Leo never was faster and it isn't faster than b.c
Also the objective proof is in-game stats not in-website stats, where anything can happen
B.c: average speed 47
Leo: 41
Cdc : 52
So which will accelerate faster? Isn't it obvious or you still want to say leo is faster than both?
Also I don't mind if you agree or not because I know that in this particular subject, things are quite obvious
deft owl
First of all amx cdc nearly has the exact same efective p/w ratio with leo 1.
Second is the average speed stat is came with update 5.9 and does not counted with terrain resistances.
Even tho leo 1 usually goes at full speed all the time 41 kmh overall is beyond stupid for leo 1.
flat zephyr
@deft owl first of all, cdc has 3 less effective hp/t than leo
Second is that on average speed, terrain resistance is considered
3rd, Leo's 41 average speed completely suits it as you might never have played with it
Also if you think 3 is not much, then you must say t62a is almost as fast as a CDC in terms of acceleration.
That would be one of the dumbest things I ever heard about blitz
Stb1 has 10 less effective hp/t than t62, still accelerates faster
M48 has 10 less effective hp/t, accelerates just as t62a
lapis basin
Sine 5.10 came out, the A-20 has become a little too op at tier 3 and 4 battles.
void pewter
you don't say
flat zephyr
Kiwi still playin?🤔 That's strange for me
void pewter
look my PC can run only so little games
flat zephyr
Wish I even had that one.
My graphic card died 2 weeks ago
grave bear
fun fact: obj140 has better hp/t
16.1 vs 15.7 of t62a. (using IN GAME hangar stats)
t62a has just better traverse speed that's it, but it loses so much speed while traversing. obj140 has less traverse speed but loses way less speed while doing it.
fast meteor
62a can't be said underpowered but yes...compared to 140 is suc**
deft owl
@grave bear T62a wins it due to better terrain resistances. @flat zephyr I was talking about medium terrain. They are almost same at medium terrain.
flat zephyr
Lol this guy actually makes me laugh
clever void
T62a is very sluggish at low speeds
flat zephyr
Ok bye go have fun with your 62
median gust
Leopard 1 is very good right now... I don't see what is there to complain. A former 50% player (Me) has 73%wr in 50 battles.. I don't see an issue with it nor the batchat
fast meteor
Well i thought that the discussion was about t62
toxic current
62a is medium speed
clever void
The fact is such. The t62a is obviously speedy but their are multiple other tanks that are much quicker. It would be adviced to have a spd boost on it for close in brawling. Also the acceleration crew skill is very nice when above 5
toxic current
Im just in it for the gun to me its already balanced
clever void
I can’t complain. Any more speed,armor, or alpha would potentially tip it OP
rancid drift
Im starting to get tired of the sales on big damage tanks. I just got the WZ-13G FT and got one shotted my first 3 games. Not only do I have to grind to get expensive upgrades, but T5 and T6 is ruined for anyone that isnt playing a smasher or a heavy tank.
I even posted a video in replays of me in my t-35-85 victory where 20 seconds into a game a smasher fired randomly across the map and killed me, it wasnt even an ammo rack hit.
unique scaffold
Lol
sonic beacon
The key diff for many stats and real performance might be training level then? Say Level III vs V is 2%, no?
lunar ruin
Are we not going to talk about lovely the A20 is??
brisk lily
I won't until I get a single tier 3 battle
which I haven't yet
deep robin
In low tiers I am always with bots. So the A20 renders useless in most battles as you are always in a 1 Vs 7 situation.
unique scaffold
Dude like everybody is already talking about it...
lunar ruin
Everybody?? I haven’t seen a single message about it until today 😂🤷🏻♂️
quick lichen
@fluid quartz what does that have to do with this channel?
jade cargoBOT
NellyBoy^^#5079 was muted
twin galleon
Can the St. Emil get a Maneuverability buff?
The darn thing moves so slow, i would also appreciate it if the vehicle got a speed buff too
twilit crystal
I mean it needs a speed buff. IT traverses pretty quickly tho already
inner locust
y would it need that it's an amazing tank..
unique scaffold
Lol ^
That’s so not true
inner locust
Well at least I liked it..
twilit crystal
it could use a reasonable speed buf to around 35 kmh. Its a decent tank overall with the top gun
stone arch
The emil is a good tank. Most people have no idea how to use it/ where to take it. It is legitimately a good tank.
austere shore
Emil is high skill cap because the only good thing is that insane gun depression. If you know how to use gun depression you’ll out play everyone
tame wharf
is it a bad thing that I use the emil is flank sometimes?
iron lynx
Y u all hatin' on the Emil
The Emil should be played around its gun depression, and this opens up a lot of positions normally not used by other tanks.
edgy gust
carmine void
Don’t buy
clever void
I got it in 2 chests when it came out. 500 games in it and if I had to spend any gold on it then I would never buy it again. @edgy gust
thorn night
When You Get Kv-1 You: I gOt kV-1 BoIz
red trench
My tank is stock and I played two battles two defeat because my team don't know how to play the game. Please fix this matchmaking.
unique scaffold
@red trench they will never fix mm.
weak burrow
Will the matchmaking ever get fixed?
flat zephyr
Nope. Next
cerulean tulip
When is A20 getting balanced
flat zephyr
Never.
Next
cerulean tulip
Why does A20 have more HE pen than the Jgpze100
short island
Its a Russian Tank thats all
unique scaffold
@red trench. It isn't the responsibility of MM to give you a winning team. It is your responsibility to do your best with the team that you are given.
Also this channel isn't for MM complaints. Read the pinned messages.
coarse harness
How about buff the T20 ?🤔
fringe summit
@coarse harness nah, its too OP lol
chilly crane
It's da best tier VII medium tenk lol
coarse harness
Exactly
unique scaffold
Hi
rancid drift
@red trench I've been having the same issue for the past year but it seems its gotten worse lately. The frustrating part about this is that the game is amazing at matching me with enemies at my skill level but never matches me with team mates at that level. Often there are two AFKs and I will often do twice or three times as much damage as my team combined. In a game where everyone judges you and trash talks you based on your win rate, this makes me very angry. I posted a picture here earlier where I got 6 kills and 3,000 damage at tier 6. Unfortunately I got killed by the last person. It frustrates me that most games I play, i would have to kill most or all of the enemy team just to win.
The chat ban system also seems very broken. I was matched twice in a row with someone who was cussing out both teams on global chat and we all agreed to report him and no action was taken. I said to my team "Dont worry hes a moron anyways" and was chat banned for 5 days. Also, why does a communication ban block quick chat? They are default messages that cannot be modified to be offensive and are vital to team communication.
zinc bone
Good bye
somber mauve
jade cargoBOT
blueblazzzen#2071 was muted
honest urchin
i understand that lights are easily killable but t7s suffer to badly against russian heavies
especially t71 vs IS6
unique scaffold
Don't brawl Russian heavies in a tier VII light.
twilit crystal
I miss sp1c :(. used to do that all the time
mint rover
Could we discuss the inferiority of the VK 72.01K
elfin heath
Tbh T71 could use a little more pen, but you definitely don’t want to brawl against heavies in any light tank 😂
warm moss
looks at Ru 215
brisk lily
RU 251 @warm moss
jade cargoBOT
ሉቃስ#0664 was muted
near wing
torn cliff
solar loom
Someone sent me an update code for my account and I updated and my account was hacked. Does anyone know how I can get my account back? I found it and it's under a different name.
visual nimbus
...
gilded pivot
U got the wrong gun on the KV2 @torn cliff
buoyant compass
@timid vine babe look up at the meme
twin egret
I'm sorry but the depression on the 15cm on the WT Pz. IV needs to be nerfed
timid vine
@buoyant compass ono 😂 😂
buoyant compass
Lol
gilded pivot
86 without calibrated on kv2
sharp marten
hello!
summer mortar
can prems be balanced, and the owners of such tanks get a small amount of gold as compensatiion for a nerf
deft owl
@cerulean tulip
dim field
In Soviet Russia, tank nerfs you
cerulean tulip
Lmao
torn cliff
Ruski tanks da best tank
gilded pivot
... English please
unique scaffold
@unique scaffold @unique scaffold
If you scroll to the top of this discord server you'll see that it is the English server. Please use English when communicating here.
pale yacht
Why must A20 so Op
wet quail
Heard of a lil something called “Russian Bias”?
minor egret
Can i talk to a wg staff on private chat, it ill take only 5 - 10 minutes.
lunar ruin
OP= Fun
summer hornet
Sooner or later It's gonna get nerfed
lunar ruin
Yeah well until then, enjoy!🔥🤷🏻♂️
unique scaffold
salut
lone warren
You’re only allowed to speak English In this server
deft owl
@minor egret This isnt the topic to ask that. Yet where is your channel link btw? You expect them to find your channel magically?
deft owl
You have to prove yourself first by gaining some subs.
minor egret
@deft owl Where is the right topic to type it in?
deft owl
minor egret
thank you very mutch!
unique scaffold
Hi
weak burrow
much*
unique scaffold
does anyone suffer using the HellCat or its just me this tank doesnt have any armor a tier 1 tank can pierce it
rancid drift
Using tanks with weak armor especially in tier 5-7 is a nightmare right now. Ive been one shotted through my front armor at full health once every two or three games
fallen elbow
Hell Cat is good
Camp bush, run when flank fall, camp mountain, run away, ambush remaining tanks
visual nimbus
Yep, usually with light armored tanks a strategical mindset helps
lucid sky
Hi
dim field
Hello
red condor
I want to understand what WG was thinking when they made the kv5...
night thunder
@unique scaffold hellcat is a good tank u dont play it like typical td consider urself a light
burnt topaz
Please give us free cam mode for replays, ive been begging for this for months and commented on almost every single video and stream you've uploaded...
obsidian pike
I should play this again lel
leaden flare
Isn't Strg V freecam in replays?
unique scaffold
Will we ever have artillery or SPG’s
meager spruce
@unique scaffold SPG=Artillery
buoyant gull
@unique scaffold nope, wargaming already said many times that maps are so small and can't add them
unique scaffold
Can they ever make them bigger?
buoyant gull
Then it requires better mobile and gb, would lose more people
unique scaffold
Why is it a 45 Second wait time Jesus
Will we be having Poland, Sweden, and Italy added?
buoyant gull
Those nations yes, cuz for Italian autoreloader system is added in game and being tested on tank M4A1/F10 which is only in Asia server. So yep, but it will take time
limpid ivy
Blitz: we nerfed every low tier tank
also Blitz: buffs A-20 to where it's comparable to tier 5
unique scaffold
令和元年
burnt topaz
No, they said free cam mode will be added a long time ago and yet they didn't add it, the problem is, only youtubers will benefit from this (and editors like myself), which is why its not a high priority change for wargaming
What i fear is that they do add the free cam mode for replay but then we can't turn off the player info, so we will end up with something like they have in tournaments, which is not gonna allow us to record cinematic footage or blitz, and they will say that they already added free cam mode so this feature will take even longer to be implemented
tender nexus
Chi he now has 15 deg depression
smoky yoke
Maybe it would have the no hud mode like on the regular interface it has now
unique scaffold
This is Balanced Camouflage
I mean, if a tank with MAX (304 Meters) won’t see you until 91 meters
Uhm, Yes im trying the Spanish Challenge Im English
fleet sorrel
borsig got no armor so the camo balances it
spark star
perfectly balanced because I one clip those things
😂 👌
the thing is they are annoying until they get balanced by some T49 or an autoloader
and if you've been checking my stats, my second most played tank is the BC 25AP and I will continue playing my 25AP, as far as Im concerned, its a keeper so yes I do love my autoloaders especially those autos which are annoying for any borsig nerd
admittedly, back then they were better in every aspect than the ISU but these days, theyre me lunch
tranquil wadi
Pure WG logic. Sell a tank for a ridiculous price that’s op. Wait a couple months and nerf it to the ground. Profit.
stray dagger
hello everyone would ask if there is a hungarian discord server?
quick lichen
@tranquil wadi what tank?
tranquil wadi
@quick lichen can’t think of an example, more of an assumption. Since the smasher is a collector I’m assuming it will get nerfed soon
humble spear
An example I can think of would be something like the Object 268 v4, although it is a tech tree tank. Upon release it was ridiculously overpowered, and people rushed the line past the Obj 263 to get it as fast as possible, using free exp in the process. Many people converted free exp with gold to get the tank before wargaming nerfed it. The tank ended up being nerfed after something like 6-8 months*
quick lichen
You can’t think of an example because it’s never happened on blitz
Also. Obj 268 v4 isn’t a premium
humble spear
yeah kinda, wargaming was still able to make money off it though
tranquil wadi
I mean it’s an assumption...I just think it’s shifty of WG to sell very op tanks like the drac or tier 8 Chinese td
humble spear
yeah true
quick lichen
Hate to break it to you but, wg runs on money. Not smiles.
tranquil wadi
Yeah in the end they are trying to make money
tranquil wadi
It’s an assumption
quick lichen
Wg wont destroy the smasher because it was bought for money. It may be nerfed but not into the ground
Wz 120 1ft and Keni otsu still exist
sullen vault
What about buff the smasher
tranquil wadi
But yeah fair points
quick lichen
Why not ruin tier 7 more?
void pewter
then it might get nerfed
quick lichen
Collector
hasty glen
I need those tanks. My collection.
sullen vault
I think its Armor can't be classified as 'heavy' armor.Please buff so it can bounce equal tier heavies
tranquil wadi
Lol with a 152mm howitzer with similar dpm to tier 8 heavies? No thanks
sullen vault
⚡
tranquil wadi
I’m still waking up u c
harsh rover
Lol
desert star
Which is better? Su152 or Smasher
iron lynx
Is that even a choice
quick lichen
🤦🏼♂️
fallen elbow
Smasher. While its gun is worse and has less mobility, it has that flexibility to adapt to a game
would consider it over powered like with the Lupus and WZ-120-1G FT
coarse temple
anyone know how do get a lot of xp fast? i want to get the tiger 2 and the indien pz.
restive pond
@coarse temple crates and boosters. Also wrong channel i think
fallen elbow
I find doing 3-6 hour game secessions where I use all my booster and have free premium on to be a good way to acquire large amounts of normal and free xp. Ye wrong channel, move to #general-blitz-discussion
keen lynx
A 20 balanced 😛
novel glade
Lol Yes🙃
unique scaffold
Seriously?? Adding OP tanks and giving them special OP consumables and provisions?? Why dont u just work on graffics, new tanks and maps instead of messing the game with 30-40% consumables... OP tanks with OP stuff. Great job..... @WG
void pewter
i think what's gonna happen is players picking aim boost, and interclip reload plus multipurpose kit, the 20% decrease to HE is pretty annoying
twilit crystal
the 20% decrease to HE is stupid because 20% of 400 is 320 which means AP does more dmg than HE when using the leo
unique scaffold
I dont understand... its gonna break thr game and balance even more besides WOTB developer saying herself its "PAY TO WIN"... bye bye Blitz, welcome PUBG
How about WG starts working on new tanks and maps and leaves stuff like consumables and provisions aside
.... FV4005 with that boost speed consumable is almost faster than Leo so its gonna get places before anything else with its 1400 dmg per clip gun.....
twilit crystal
wait how is it p2w?
fallen elbow
@unique scaffold the FV4005 will be a tech tree tank, not a premium tank
lethal token
The point that @unique scaffold is making is that WG's very own presenter said "Pay to Win" regardless of context. Ita so true. WG just shot them selves in the foot with that one.
The more expensive consumables make it pay to win. As you'll need to compensate the extra credit loss with boosters and prem time.
median gust
@fallen elbow Smasher has a better gun kek
fallen elbow
Excuse me? Can you say that again.
median gust
You just contradicted yourself
fallen elbow
So the extra 0.05 dispersion makes the Smashers gun better even tough the SU's gun fires a extra 0.5 of a shell a minute
median gust
and? the pen is so much better with heat and ap
fallen elbow
AP on 152mm?!
also, the KV2 and SU have identical pen with their AP and HEAT
140mm and 250mm with AP and HEAT respectively.
dim field
Now compare smasher and su's ap
fallen elbow
difference of 5
severe quail
i really want the tiger 2 turret to get a buff because it just stinks and almost all tanks can pen it
fallen elbow
140mm (Smasher) and 135mm (SU) are pretty much identical in practice
Ye the Tiger II could use a buff in its armor
dim field
severe quail
i swear wargaming should just change the tiger 2 status to a medium tank and not a heavy because it can barely bounce shit
burnt topaz
Lowe doesnt bounce everything
void pewter
^
burnt topaz
U just cant aim bro😂 😈😈, i bought the lowe and thought it would bounce everything, but realized that if a good player played it it will bounce shots, just like any other tanks, good players can make the most of it, so when i played it i got shredded and quickly learned that i can't play thinking its great armor will bounce everything
Anyways PLEASE give us free cam mode for replays wargaming, PLEASE!!! 😭😭😭
gloomy dragon
Id prefer backwards compatable replays first. Anyways, could somebody please explain to me the new consumables? I havent had the time to watch the reveal video.
burnt topaz
One makes u faster (30% to ur top speed and way more horsepower for 15 sec) one makes u way more accurate (30% better aimtime and 30% better dispersion) one makes autoloaders reload faster (like adrenaline i think but for auto loaders)
gloomy dragon
So basically mad games but in public matches.... Great.
void pewter
those are only for 4005 line
clever void
Tourneys will be won now by consumable choices. 😂
gloomy dragon
Then definitely p2w if implemented as stated? If i had that speed boost on my e50m, no target would be safe from the ramming power. I'd even ram a maus and e100 to see how much the damage tradeoff would be.
visual nimbus
T95 could use that engine boost consumable
teal olive
I’ve noticed the adrenaline isn’t present on the livestream video... I guess the TDs won’t have that option. : ( Or it could just be because they only showed consumables for the FV4005 (autoloader).
void pewter
it's an autoloader
clever mauve
I’m disappointed in the new consumables ~ pay to win is dumb and we don’t want mad games stuff in normal battles !
However, I think the turrets flying off is cool but they fly a bit too high lol~ also, it’s about time we have the ability to flip tanks
teal olive
@clever mauve new physics would be too much for a mobile game. And yeah new consumables are pretty dumb tbh. Watch the new engine boost one, it’s pretty insane.
fallen elbow
English
vital steppe
He is server asia
teal olive
😑😑😑
vital steppe
Evrebody did you are nub but not you nub the others is nub
lucid jewel
Re
I don't understand how people can be so brain-dead
I immediately get rushed by a bat and my whole team is there but no one shoots him until finally a fv suicide pushes
This game is garbage. Server lag, people not moving from Spawn, shots bouncing off gray armor
It's so sad we let wargaming get away with crap because there's nothing else on the market on mobile so they don't have to put any effort in because they have a Monopoly
quick lichen
@rancid drift pinned messages 😃
lean plaza
proud yew
#570204768857882624 @lean plaza
vast ermine
Can someone tell me why the stock grind on the turret and guns for the 7/1 and the conqueror are over 100k Xp? I don’t mind that you have to grind to upgrade stuff but you are basically uncompetitive in a tier 10 game for the first 70 odd games in these tanks.
I have played over 37k battles and it seems to me that this grind is out of proportion to other their 9 tanks.
unique scaffold
M103's even worse
Agree it's kinda dumb
flat zephyr
Free exp boom boom
Your tank is ready
spark star
insert "nerf the smasher already" comment here no 69420
lone warren
This isnt the channel to complain about mm
spark star
@red trench its tier 5, its to be expected
also its not the channel to complain about bad players
deft owl
New consubables are trash. I really disliked them.
fringe summit
They should make a channel named: #MM-complain
(Will be the most used channel very soon XD)
red trench
@fringe summit lol
quick lichen
@red trench pinned messages 😃
elfin heath
unique scaffold
O
elfin heath
10% difference in WR. Match Maker is fine 😎
manic birch
Can we occassionally be able to purchase collector's tanks for credits. Haven't seen any of the such the american tier 3 td with the howitzer for sale at all.
crystal spoke
They occasionally do
manic birch
@crystal spoke For regular credits?
elfin heath
Not likely to happen seeing as how they put a gold sale price on them. Howitzers were removed from lower tiers on purpose (to stop the seal clubber).
crystal spoke
Oh my badI miss read your post
manic birch
Sigh @elfin heath Even though many of the collector's tanks aren't viable anymore?
elfin heath
That's precisely why they were removed. Most are not viable any more or were tragically over/under powered when they were in the tech tree. They stream lined the tech tree to promote higher tier level game play, removed some problem children, and tried to put a stop to seal clubbing in lower tiers.
tall crypt
Hi
manic birch
Tanks like the BTSV, T-15, LTP, M3 Stuart, Light VIC, T7 Car, just aren't really viable at lower tiers even with the buff.
elfin heath
Those might be released again, seeing as how those are go to give aways around X-Mas and the other holidays.
manic birch
I still use the BT7 Arty, but higher tiers like the GuP collection tanks are not really good.
Even my Churchill GC is starting to struggle more now.
elfin heath
Why do you say that? All three of those tanks are fantastic 😄 Kuro is a tourney staple. Anko is deceptively fun. The Hetzer could use a little buff, but is overall good. Churchill GCs always struggled, hence the removal.
manic birch
In my Anko, I feel like I'm in a slowed down light tank. My Kuro can't side scrap worth s*** and going hull down is a no go as they just shoot right through the turret. I kinda feel that they need a RoF buff, especially the Kame and a little buff to the armor on the Kuro as it doesn't feel like a heavy tank to me at all.
Also, bouncing shots in an Anko, seems like a rarity. You get penned by at least everything.
elfin heath
Anko is not a scrapper (especially compared to the recently buffed Pz. 4 G), you have to play mid to back field with it while listening to your team scream at you about being a nub, camper, etc. Kuro was buffed recently and should feel more like a heavy. Anko is what the old Pz. 4 used to be in armor terms. You can't rely on the frontal armor at all (and the weaker turret front). It can side scrape however.
red trench
@quick lichen You don't want to see this... I know, I know... :l
quick lichen
@red trench mm has nothing to do with tank balance
@ripe prawn #502019319417405441 ...
crystal spoke
How would you buff it?
ripe prawn
The gun
red trench
@quick lichen Where I can find the section Game balance ?
ripe prawn
Comet cannot penetrate mosts of VK 100.01 (P) armor
red trench
Btw the M4A1 revalorisé need a buff, the ru 251 have a dpm of 2700 dmg/min and my M4A1 rev. Have only 2000 of dpm.
meager spruce
@red trench #tank-balance-discussion is only for vehicle buffs and nerfs
there is no place on this server to complain about MM
manic birch
@elfin heath I think the M41 Bulldog needs a traction buff as well as an ammo rack buff.
clever void
I want IS-2sh turret cheeks buffed
ripe prawn
I want Comet buff and St. Emil nerf
red trench
@clever void what this tank is op
clever void
Emil nerf? Bahaha
meager spruce
^^^
ripe prawn
Yes Emil using tier 9 gun
clever void
So does su152.
manic birch
Enemy Emil td line comes around the corner.
Me: Loads the HE
meager spruce
it has nothing good about it except the gun. @ripe prawn I do not see the point you are making. Even the gun is not even that good when think about it
rugged trail
Emil is kinda pathetic except for the gun
red trench
@manic birch the M41 bulldog was buffed.
clever void
Btw. For does that don’t know. Any premium round can pene turret cheeks on IS-2sh. You literally can’t even sidescrap with it atm unless enemy is nubadub
rugged trail
Has the revalorise been bufffed?
exotic pelican
yeah, once a while ago
red trench
@clever void like every tank can be pen with a premium shell.
rugged trail
I think the rev is a good tank except for a little bit of gun handling
red trench
@rugged trail The dpm is bad
ripe prawn
Emil cant be penetrated by Crusader
clever void
Um. I wouldn’t be bringing it up if it wasn’t too easy to do man.
rugged trail
I still do pretty darn good in my rev not mastery but still rather good
manic birch
Just play the Emil like you played the Nashorn and SU100.
iron lynx
But slower
exotic pelican
Idk, I love the M4A1 Revalorise and I'm 7th Place on NA in it
clever void
Rev is meh. You can’t carry at all. But if your team stays alive you can farm like a bozz
manic birch
Sadly, I don't have the M4A1 Rev.
red trench
@rugged trail yes but the handling is fine but when you are Beat buy an ru that have 2700 of dpm.
clever void
Oh yes. RU is god
rugged trail
Rev is one that is underestimated along with the eco which is another one of my faves
manic birch
Eco?
ripe prawn
When facing an RU, what kind of shells i must load?
clever void
Lol
rugged trail
*EXP autocorrect
red trench
2700 dpm (Ru 251) vs 2000 dpm (M4A1 rev.), who will win ?
exotic pelican
yeah but in practice anything could happen
teal olive
RU is a solid tank but will get rekt by a good rev player that knows how to use cover
white vessel
Exp armor is easilypennable through tracks, even from front.
meager spruce
just shoot at its turret ring
white vessel
That usually requiers gold = lower dpm
meager spruce
uuum, if you can aim you can pen it with AP
also sidehug it at you will easily kill it.
white vessel
I only play t8 with type59 that definedly needs gold
red trench
@teal olive Yep, the ru is faster than you and he has a better dpm than you and a cover can't protect you because a good ru251 will rush on you....
meager spruce
Sidehug it then @white vessel Easy
rugged trail
May I mention that the ru has 102 mil of pen on HE?
iron lynx
Sorry, I don't know Cyrillic
proud yew
Wrong Chat
iron lynx
Okay
twilit crystal
how is it even comparable to compare a high alpha tank to a low alpha tank?. You shouldnt get high alpha and high dpm without sacrificing a lot in another factor eg gun depression or mobility or armor and I mean like paper thin not cardboard
unique scaffold
Waffle!?!?! Peasant
safe canopy
rev could definently beat ru but its so situational
tidal inlet
T62a or object 140 ????
unique scaffold
@tidal inlet depends on your skill level
tidal inlet
according to me object 140
unique scaffold
140 has a higher skill cap and is better in the hands of a good player, but an average player will perform better in 62-A
zealous stone
its actually the other way around
140 is more friendly for new players while t62 requires experience to be driven since it has less armour(hull wise) , also less mobility and less gun depresion but way better acuracy and pen.You could call it the Russian Leo 1
unique scaffold
140 is more flexible. The 140 can do most things better than the 62.
The 62 can do one thing better than the 140.
deft owl
@zealous stone Bruh 140 only has more top speed. T62a has better acceleration.
deft owl
T62a has 29 p/w while 140 has 27.6 on medium terrain. You just proved you are wrong lmao.
Im suprised people in there still have no idea about terrain resistances.
Shame.
twilit crystal
tbh when the speed limit isnt super high(55 isnt that high) 25+ is enough
coarse temple
should i get a tiger 2 or an indien pz?
fathom wren
Tiger II
carmine void
Tiger 2
indigo knot
Tiger 2 for E75 but indien is good too
deft owl
@coarse temple Dont listen people who says tiger 2. Its practically a worse löwe at the moment. Go for indien.
stoic light
tiger 2 is 1/2 the tank the Lowe is lol
The only good thing about it is the e75 comes after
sullen vault
62a and 140 is more of a question of consistency versus flexibility.although i find 140 to be the better meduim.
coarse temple
ok because i have both spic and tiger and i am torn. personaly, i like my spic better but i just wanted an opinion from other people.
unique scaffold
It should be more of , would you like to get leo1 or e 100 tbh , tiger 2 is bad tank and wg don't even bother with doing something with it , but e 75 is one of the best ht it game
stoic pebble
Tiger 2 works but is definitely not the best at its tier. I however, enjoyed playing it.
brisk lily
AMX M4 49 is literally a better Tiger II
stoic pebble
Yes, the Tiger 2 isn't the best. But it doesn't mean it's useless. It's comfortable to play and isn't as powercreeped as it is on PC. It's a good idea to play it now before more broken vehicles arrive.
brisk lily
Still good tank
less HE prone on the sides than the AMX
winter marsh
iron lynx
Hmm
Could be a typo
twilit crystal
it isnt. Its really bad.
deft owl
@stoic pebble Indien is currently one of the best medium in game. Gun is perfect and turret is really bouncy. Gun depression is - 10. I would definetely go for indien instead of tiger 2.
iron lynx
Is there any effect on the Batchat AP itself?
jagged helm
@mellow seal
fringe summit
It seems that the Löwe is doing better than the Tiger II... Make Löwe a collector and nerf? XD
unique scaffold
@fringe summit lowe is not op, its just good tank. So no need nerf.
weak elbow
@deft owl yes the indien is really bouncy. but the gun could mabye get a little bit more pen.
fallen elbow
Tiger II needs a buff
void pewter
git outta here stop lying to yourself
fallen elbow
look at that trash win rate
Its one of the worst compared to all tanks and the worst over all tier VIII heavies. Even lower then the Caernarvon that is pure trash
void pewter
well imo all tanks are good because they all have their own playstyle which suits them, but that's just my opinion
fallen elbow
Hard to believe when its average performance stats are that low
void pewter
ah well you see average performance doesn't say if a tank is good or balanced, if a tank has like 60% win rate that means it's op because the average player has an inflated winrate in the tank
fallen elbow
I need to see if your point has merit to it
void pewter
also I feel like blitzstar average performance chart for all players doesn't do just for both tanks. Lowe is way more popular than tiger 2 because of the earning potential which also attracts better players that's why it's stats would be inflated. Tiger 2 on the other hand doesn't have such popularity and is usually played just when grinding the line meaning less unicums and what not on it.
tame plume
fallen elbow
After thinking about the Tiger II for a bit. I think the Tiger II is pretty much a worse Tiger 1. Both have similar guns with neither one being better then the other, but the main thing is that the Tiger II is much slower then the Tiger I making it useless in medium tank combat.
void pewter
but it's not a medium 🤔
fallen elbow
You can say that the Tiger II traded in in speed for armor, but keep in mind that the armor of the Tiger II is usless.
The Tiger I is a medium heavy like the AMX tanks.
void pewter
tiger 2 armor is not useless when faced with mediums tanks, and personally I think you should always try to put a german tank in a sidescarping position
modern fern
Yes I sidescarp
sinful thorn
Why is the Wz grind soooo hard
I mean, the medium ones, it's almost 200k exp to get all the modules of the Wz-120
Also, the Stock T-34-2 uses the type 58 gun instead of the T-34-1 100mm cannon
buoyant gull
Once you research all on it, its very fun tank to play, but I agree that 200k is very much and not worth to grind, that's why I stopped at tier 8
Even playing stock is very hard and not fun at all
sinful thorn
There are few tanks in the game that are fun to play when stock, but the T-34-2 can't even pen the Smasher's frontal armor
Wz probably is even worse
unique scaffold
When I say Sector it goes hashtags.. why?
rain salmon
Tiger 1 needs massive buff it has poor armour the real Tiger was powerful the world of tanks blitz tiger is weak its not a heavy its a medium
humble spear
Nah it doesn't, I like the tiger 1 where it is now and it's plenty good in the right hands.
rain salmon
Yeah its got good speed and reload but other than that it just needs an armour buff
humble spear
you either sidescrape to some extent of effectiveness or you don't rely on it at all, only the turret is half decent
rain salmon
Fair point but i still think it should get more armour
flat zephyr
Tiger 1 is ok right now it's not under performing
rain salmon
And Löwe i have a Löwe and dont get me wrong it is awesome i sidescrape get bounces but it is starting to gets easier to pen even when i sidescrape
flat zephyr
Lowe is op
rain salmon
It is but its easy to pen
And mojority of the Russian tanks are a bit unfair with OP armour good speed and good damage were as German tanks they have good accuracy but half of their heavy tanks arent even heavies there more like a med
tame wharf
is Tiger 1 that better than the Tiger 2? never played the Tiger 1, but the Tiger 2 was pretty fun, always angle slightly and make use of hulled down positions
iron lynx
Tier for tier, the Tiger 1 is indeed better than the Tiger 2.
slow tiger
so they haven't fix the a20 yet eh?
iron lynx
Nah, it's still rampant
slow tiger
alrite, gr8 game
unique scaffold
The tiger 1 is fine 🤣
tight herald
@tranquil wadi an example for me would be the gravedigger. It's like an oversized leopard, but more OP
Is there a possibility of either:
A) making spotting a bit more difficult or
B) making maps bigger
Reason I ask is that in a slow tank, it's difficult to maneuver anywhere without being spotted and shot at, even with the speed boost... especially on open maps like canyon.
I don't know where the suggestion thread is, so I apologize if this is in the wrong area.
torn cliff
nerf OP premiums
balmy juniper
Where we had 3 tier 4 tanks and 3 tier 3 tanks and thay had all tier 4 tanks I have screenshots to prove
rancid drift
With what was said earlier about big maps, often on maps like canyon especially, since some heavies can be spotted from farther away. Tanks like the huge vk will be spotted from across the map and be at half health before they get to the battle or see their first enemy, or even worse, if there is a smaller vehicle driving next to it, they will soak up shots without even being spotted.
turbid portal
Bonjour, je le suis fait bannir car avec des camarades à moi, nous nous sommes amusés à faire des synchronisation ensemble. Puis à un moment, 1 seul fois dans UNE game, nous avons décidé de nous retrouver mais de ne pas se tuer, je veux bien admettre que ce n'est pas forcément correct, mais je me suis fait bannir de façon permanente, j'ai mit une certaine somme dans ce jeu, je le suis attacher à ce jeu et j'ai toujours contribué au bon déroulement et fonctionnement du jeu !
Alors je trouve ça regrettable de nous avoir ban de façon permanente, autant, un bannissement de 1 mois, je veux bien mais la nous nous retrouvons sans rien , plus d'accès à notre jeu mobile ! Alors que nous avons mis un temps montre pour pouvoir atteindre notre niveau ! Alors s'il vous plaît, faites quelque chose ! Je ne supporte pas ça, de le dire que tout mes efforts on été vains !
Pls help me <@&481447501690568709> and <@&510077723264286720>
unique scaffold
@turbid portal. English please
quick lichen
Can’t help you in French
jade cargoBOT
pappou30#9346 has been warned.
turbid portal
:((( i dont can translat this
Hello, I am banished because with my friends, we had fun synchronizing together. Then at one point, only once in ONE game, we decided to meet but not to kill ourselves, I admit that it is not necessarily correct, but I was banned permanently, I I put a certain amount in this game, I am attached to this game and I have always contributed to the smooth running and operation of the game!
So I find it unfortunate to have ban permanently, as much, a ban of 1 month, I want to but we find ourselves without anything, more access to our mobile game! While we put a time shows to reach our level! So please, do something! I can not stand it, to say that all my efforts have been in vain!
Its ok ???
I love this game, pls help me ! I am panic !
<@&510077723264286720> and <@&481447501690568709>
crystal spoke
Just tag one of them
turbid portal
Its verry important for me !
crystal spoke
Your just as likely to get an answer but with out annoying them
unique scaffold
@turbid portal. There is nothing any of us can do for you. We are all volunteers. You have to take this up with WG directly.
turbid portal
@unique scaffold can you mp inciter for this or other wargaming group
crystal spoke
Just make a ticket
unique scaffold
No. You need to work through support. This is on you. Violate the rules, pay the price.
turbid portal
Rly ? 😭 😭 😭 😭
visual nimbus
send in a ticket
turbid portal
I send ticket but ..... I dont have reply
crystal spoke
It's not instant
covert harness
You need to wait few hours usually @turbid portal
unique scaffold
@turbid portal. Be patient. Do not comment on the ticket. You will just have to wait. There is nothing that any of us can do to help you. #tank-balance-discussion is not the place for this.
dim field
Send the ticket wait a few hours. Sometimes they're quick sometimes it takes a couple days.
turbid portal
Ok 😭 😭
coarse temple
ok, i will start to grind more twards the indien
worthy basin
And remember that every time you reply to a ticket, it's moved back to the bottom of the line, @turbid portal. So be very patient.
drowsy plaza
He was balanced apparently 😏
gleaming turret
DVPL information, anybody can help me with that?
unique scaffold
@gleaming turret Nope - Thats the Wargaming own format for anticheat and size compression measurement
latent crane
wich channel do get help with payment issues
gleaming turret
@unique scaffold no clue about cheating (not my thing). Size compression is all it does I think (its a variation on lzf). I just want to be able to read the yaml and xml files again as to get the correct names and numbers for my own little blitz-helper-app ... :-/
latent crane
i cant buy anything need help😭
gleaming turret
They should add those uncompressed to the developer-programme... But thanx for the reply...
@latent crane what platform you run on? If e.g. android it probably means you have no play wallet thingy... Or no google play services running on your phone...
latent crane
pc
its new pc just put it together and yes i have funds on my credit card i checked
the store has been like this for the past few sales now wich i missed out on cause of this
gleaming turret
@latent crane its not your creditcard its the underlying platform (which handles the payments) like google play, apple store, windows store or steam. You can try using an alternative if you have a WG account (eg log in with email and password), eg play on pc but buy stuff on android. Just make shure it's the same account (if you login on one it should automatically log you out on another)...
dusky oxide
@latent crane restart game?
latent crane
tried restart
dusky oxide
Oh you said past few sales the same has happened nvm
gleaming turret
Reinstall might help too btw...
(And yes thats what i do, i play on my phone because i loathe pc controls but i buy stuff on pc)
latent crane
steam
i do have wg account i im oposite i cant get used to phone controls
ive bought things in g ame store and paid directly from credit card before
gleaming turret
Do you use steam wallet? Meh, shouldnt matter if you do. You can buy other stuff (eg games) on steam right? Might be wise to contact steam support and or wargaming support directly then....
latent crane
this happened all of a sudden
no i dont not for blitz as i mentioned ive only paid directly from credit cardi dont know if i can call wg support directly wish i could as the online support sucks
gleaming turret
Had a similar issue as well, couldnt buy anything on mobile all of a sudden, turns out google flagged my account and blocked payments so i cant buy anything there anymore... Didnt stop the app from trying though (which you have)
latent crane
why would they do that??
youd think they would wlecome you giving them money o-0 doesnt make sense
gleaming turret
Google thinks i'm laudring money off to russia...
latent crane
id like to frigin buy the lorza before its not there anymore
gleaming turret
😂 👌 🤑 💰
latent crane
i actualy wanted to buy all 3 packs showing in that pic i uploadd
theyll be gone in 10 days f rig
gleaming turret
@latent cranedo the opposite of me then, play on pc buy on mobile...
latent crane
i dont even have the game on my phone
is it possible to buy stuff on the wot blitz portal?
covert harness
@latent crane which country are you from and do you have Blitz downloaded on steam?
latent crane
canada and yes
i cant buy anything no matter what platform i have it on...soon as i click purchase i get service is not available please try again later
covert harness
did you try to downlaod it trough Windows store?
latent crane
and the pic of item in window says sold out and yes i have
covert harness
Maybe ask support, I have no idea how to help then.
latent crane
i also tried calling credit carrd compan there is no restrictions on my card
online support sucks there is no option to choose from relating to my problem
unique scaffold
@latent crane delete the app cache - its a common problem when the saved cache is not synchronized
latent crane
how do i do that?
tender hornet
Pls buff tiger the nerfs made this grind to e100 hell
iron lynx
Ummm
Tiger is already very good
twilit crystal
Tiger is a great tank lol. Tiger 2 is the bad one. It has relatively bad armor(dont tell me sidescrape you can't sidescrape with 80 mm) with a arguably worse turret than the tier 7 and it doesnt have the dpm of the tiger I. E75 is great though and e100 is a decent pub stomper
low talon
can i say Buff Chieftian Mk.6 plz? it may sound ridiculous, but based on 5.8 charts Chieftian is not performing well at tier 10. also Chieftain got a ton of weak spots and an unreliable turret
void pewter
🤔 if it gets buffed more people will complain that they are getting dikked by mk6s driven by unicums
clever void
It’s all right. It’s basically a pub stumper and usually has no place in tourneys because of said weak spots. I feel like you get the best of both worlds with it
void pewter
I mean it isn't all that common as per say something like 183 which you say almost every battle
low talon
in my opinion the problem is Chieftain mk6 have same characteristics as Chieftain/T95, e.g. weak spots, mobility. and we all know Chieftian/T95 isnt outstanding in battle.
PS: Chieftain/T95 should gets buffed too
uncut raptor
@lusty silo Is there any reason for the t34 Buff? As far as i knew it was said that premiums could not be nerfed, how come wargaming decided to begin nerfing prems now? Dont you Think Players will be thinking a lot more before buying a new prem Tank now? Also can those who buyed this Tank because they were told premiums never get nerfed refund their gold?
ripe oasis
When the British TDs aren't even out yet and they already need a Nerf
shy wren
@uncut raptor
This ain’t WoT, in which premium tanks cannot be nerfed. WoT Mercs and WoTB handle premiums in a different way. They can balance them whenever they want and however they want. It’s just whether they want to do it or not
unique scaffold
@uncut raptor T34 got a nerf? :O
uncut raptor
Its the First time they do it At least as far as i remember tho @shy wren
@unique scaffold the cupola is weaker now, it can be penned with hesh and big he guns now
shy wren
DM me the pics, wanna see for myself @uncut raptor
unreal plover
Guys, the Victory Containers are a joke...all I got was some free XP and Common Boosters. If you see this, I'd advice you to not buy the 3 Containers at 500G...it's useless
haughty bronze
I need help
I opened 10 victory crates and got two Cromwell B but no compensation for the second one
meager spruce
@haughty bronze uuum there is no such thing a a victory crate...
haughty bronze
those containers that appeared today in the store..
meager spruce
@haughty bronze can you give a screen shot. They are not our on the Eu sever. (You may be talking about spring season containers)
nevermind, just logged in and saw them @haughty bronze
haughty bronze
I'm on eu server and here they are
meager spruce
Yeah, just had not opened the shop so I hadn't seen them. My bad. Sorry for the inconvenience
haughty bronze
no problem.. but have u encountered such a thing like I had.... I should have got 1200000 coins but nothing... right after I got the second Cromwell I was disconnected from the server... WG doesn't want to give me the money
I'll send a ticket
meager spruce
@haughty bronze I got compensation in gold for T3485 Rudy
2350 gold instead if credits
haughty bronze
is it a collector tank ?
blissful sapphire
nope
zealous stone
Only 500 gold
unreal plover
Why on earth all the others are receiving tanks and stuff and I only get Free XP?
unique scaffold
🙋
uncut raptor
This stuff isnt supposed to be in Balance discussion
cobalt crane
2 of my friends go Cromwell bs
cosmic barn
Hmmm t34 to be nerfed
wispy fog
I paid more than 60$ and got NO TANK in the containers. 40 Containers and NO TANK
Why wg
tacit mulch
Didn't they say they wouldn't sell tanks in crates again? Also now I gotta wait another year to hopefully buy the T-34-85 Victory
river phoenix
#FixBatChatAPCamoRating
subtle egret
help me....why cant i purchase the is5?
is it because my account has only up to tier 4?
tacit mulch
You need to have a personal acces of level 9 or 10 and you need to be in a clan with access to level 9+ supply
subtle egret
oh...
shy wren
It’s gonna take a lot of battles to grind your way to personal access level 10.
Good luck with your endeavors
subtle egret
thanks......thats my 2nd account btw
teal olive
Is there a place to view 6.10 patch notes? I wanna see what happened with changes in tier ten
shy wren
6.0, check Blitz Hangar @teal olive
rain salmon
Vohan2 i agree T34 needs buff its armour is too weak
unique scaffold
hey guys, whats the gun depression of T23E3? Does anyone have it here?
rain salmon
No sorry