#tank-balance-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 107

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:39 PM

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vk72 isnt better than e100, they have only same gun (e100 bit more dpm) but the playstyles are totally different

acoustic junco Dec 24, 2018, 12:40 PM

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vk got stronger lfp?

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:40 PM

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and that super huge heavy armored upper frontal plate of e100 can be really useful for improve the weak lfp
vk72 is like vk45b, strong frontal armor that doesnt need angling to bounce, but you have super weak sides , so you cant angle it a lot

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but e100 has these op side skirts that allows you to angle a lot, but still you cant have same vk72's lower plate
i prefer e100 because is more versatile and can bounce fire from different positions, also you have better traverse, while vk72 is better for 1v1 brawl, or maybe not because of large amount of weakspots while face hugging

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but idk, if i want armor i use maus, not vk72.

acoustic junco Dec 24, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Well, I've got an answer regarding the initial low ammo capacity of VK. It was initially released in PC several years ago as a premium awarded for clanwars achievement. And then it was ok for a prem to have significant flaws compared to researcheble tanks.
I guess it was taken to blitz as-is and now is geting more balanced.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:54 PM

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183 nerf ✓
Now we just need a KV-2 nerf

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meanwhile Chinese tanks were spamming gold, Russian meds had their fire rate unchanged, etc...

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 12:58 PM

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High tier Russian Meds got nerfed hard in the great medium clobbering

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Most other nations meds just lost pen, Russians also lost turret armor

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 1:02 PM

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T-62A has still lot of turret armor
Not OP IMO but it makes other meds kinda useless

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 1:24 PM

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e50m says no

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Idk why no ones plays this one

iron lynx Dec 24, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Probably because E50 isn't very fast

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 1:36 PM

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I hope very few ppl buy Drac and Hellboi
I don’t want tier 7 to be ruined again

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@unique scaffold they will get sold completely. Mark my words

iron lynx Dec 24, 2018, 1:37 PM

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300 Dracs sold in 30 mins
Ya think? @unique scaffold

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 1:37 PM

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Crap.

main carbon Dec 24, 2018, 1:38 PM

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If only I had some gold......

iron lynx Dec 24, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Okay time to bring out the derps for the Dracs

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At least for me, the Rhm sees tier 7.

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Oh yes

haughty harness Dec 24, 2018, 2:17 PM

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matchmaking is so unbalanced

bronze mica Dec 24, 2018, 2:47 PM

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drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 3:09 PM

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@haughty harness MM is balanced over time. Within a period of 1,000 games most players will see a very similar player base. The biggest difference is you the individual player. By and large 80%+ of the playerbase is awful - you affect your results more than any else.

haughty harness Dec 24, 2018, 3:12 PM

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i mean i evr match making with 3 kv2s @drowsy plaza how is that supose to be balanced??!!

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Don’t play tier 6?

ivory fractal Dec 24, 2018, 3:42 PM

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@fallow wren ?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Another salty kid who can't play only trashtalk 👌

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 3:54 PM

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@obtuse bay what is the scam?

craggy dust Dec 24, 2018, 3:55 PM

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What tank is good from auction under 10k gold?

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Amx 49

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Type 59 and AMX 49

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Type is excellent

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 3:57 PM

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^^

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 4:54 PM

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@undone elbow #replays

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:13 PM

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@obtuse bay so it’s over priced. How is it a scam?

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You can see exactly what you are paying and how much it is

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Stubborn kid spotted ^^

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 PM

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@obtuse bay where is the scam?

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 PM

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^

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Did they lie about the prices?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 PM

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@obtuse bay no

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:18 PM

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The crates could be seen as a scam

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:19 PM

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It isn’t a scam if your getting it 🤦

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:19 PM

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But you’re completely wrong about the auction

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Lol

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@obtuse bay explain please

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Ahahah

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:19 PM

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If you didn’t get it then it would be a scam... it’s that simple...

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Coward?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Yes I'm an idiot😂😂
This guy is lost he clearly doesnt know what je is talking about 😂

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:21 PM

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I don’t think that’s an appropriate word choice

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Scam is also wrong

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Either way how are auction prices related to #tank-balance-discussion ?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Miney 😂😂😂

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 PM

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What other way would the game run?

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:22 PM

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I heard that war gaming is run off of smiles and rainbows

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They actually don’t need money

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:23 PM

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I want you to stop talking about something you have no clue about, kid

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Woah now

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Ele

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@obtuse bay do you have anything actually constructive to add to this server?

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Or are you just here to complain about things?

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:24 PM

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^

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:24 PM

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I’m thinking the latter

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Omg

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:24 PM

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This is fun😁

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:24 PM

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How much should a tier 7 sell for @obtuse bay

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@unique scaffold watch this 😉

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:25 PM

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This is going to be good lol

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:25 PM

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How much should the helsing sell for?

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@obtuse bay answer please

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@unique scaffold hush

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:26 PM

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^ mk

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:26 PM

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@lapis shadow hush

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Predator is on to something I think

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How much should a tier 7 sell for in gold?

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9000?

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I like that number

hidden scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Ladies and Gentlemen

jade cargoBOT Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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dynoSuccess the_predator57_killer[L1VE]#8237 was muted

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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LMAO

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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9000 minutes it is

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Omg 😂😂😂

hidden scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:27 PM

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We got em

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Deserved!

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Also I think that was the greatest insult I've ever heard 😂😂😂

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 5:34 PM

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This was beautiful to read

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Exactly 😂

full willow Dec 24, 2018, 5:36 PM

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7 tier is balanced.

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crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Of course it is if you have a premi

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Nice sarcasm 👌

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Thanks I've been working on it

jade cargoBOT Dec 24, 2018, 6:06 PM

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dynoSuccess the_predator57_killer[L1VE]#8237 was banned

rotund portal Dec 24, 2018, 7:45 PM

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How do u take part in the auction? I know how to decorate tree but I can't find any links for the auction

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 7:46 PM

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@rotund portal go to the tree and look at the top

rotund portal Dec 24, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Thanks

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Btw how much is the Type 59?

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Sec let me check @rotund portal

rotund portal Dec 24, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Thanks

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 7:52 PM

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@rotund portal 7900

rotund portal Dec 24, 2018, 7:52 PM

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7900 what? Gold?

lapis shadow Dec 24, 2018, 7:53 PM

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LOL gets banned

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Yep and will drop more

rotund portal Dec 24, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Ok thanks

orchid rock Dec 24, 2018, 8:15 PM

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If this actually happens i might start playing tier 10 again

frail temple Dec 24, 2018, 8:22 PM

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gooood

misty yacht Dec 24, 2018, 8:28 PM

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Merry Christmas!

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:30 PM

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@frail folio do not thunk this is the forum for that

frail folio Dec 24, 2018, 8:32 PM

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I mean send it for compaction with prems in Blitz
You can do 100k+ credits with a Löwe with prem account in a good game
But in WoWs (WG game too) you can do a good battle and get over 2 Million credits with a Tier 9 prem "heavy"

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:35 PM

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@frail folio quit WoW a long time ago but I remember the ships were very expensive like 50m or something like that. For Gearing tier 10 us was about that much

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I tried it but it wasn't something I enjoyed

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:37 PM

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@crystal spoke but In wotb the tanks cost max 6mil

frail folio Dec 24, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Tier 10 cost 20 Million each (usually destroyers like Gearing a little less, like 18M)
But let's be optimistic and say 100k credits every single Löwe game = You will need 60 battles for a T10 in Blitz
Battle above was without prem time and it would be 800k credits with it
So let's say 500k per game with prem account in a T8 prem ship = 40 games

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:38 PM

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also it is understandable to have more economy as warships fire torpedos and more ammo @frail folio

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@frail folio you will need more than 60 battles to grind a tier 10 you need about 200

frail folio Dec 24, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Sure, games are shorter in Blitz but the most credits game I ever seen was a MBT70 in birthday with prem account and 7k+ damage, the guy earned over 300k credits
The most credits I ever seen in WoWs was a over 4M credit game in a Tier 9 "heavy"

300k is just 1/20 of a T10 in Blitz while 4M is 1/5 of a T10

On top of that you can play T10 ships without ruining yourself, in Blitz You can't

@late tiger Yeah, that why I said let's be optimistic, every single game with 100k credits don't think it's possible even for 4k WR people

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:43 PM

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@frail folio first of all how long did that take to type.

frail folio Dec 24, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Sorry for the long message XD

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Second, as i said in order to grind through a tier 9 stock you need about 200 battles if you are not that good so technically you will have plenty of credits to get 3 tier tens but that is not my point.

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What i want to say is that wargaming do not want to rush a lot of the new player base to tier 5 at least in wotb but in WoT it is a whole different story and they make the credits earnings less so the new player base gets experience. Also I think the new player base in wotb is larger that wow's (possibly, no sure) so wg have to deal with that somehow so they earn more money because new players want to progress faster and get higher tiers so they give as little as reward as possible and let the money from the newbies rain on them @frail folio

knotty surge Dec 24, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Lol

frail folio Dec 24, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Yeah, you are right but a little more profitability for prems and T10 would be fine
Also prems in WoT Pc and WoWs earn 50% more xp and free xp so they are less worth it in Blitz

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:53 PM

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yeah but most/the majority of the premium tank are overpowered/broken @frail folio

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 8:54 PM

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@frail folio you can make money in X in Blitz if you do well.

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 8:55 PM

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@drowsy plaza what is the difference between a moderator, veteran and a community helper? all can ban, and technically do the same stuff

soft terrace Dec 24, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Ones named moderator, the other a veteran, and the other a community helper. Gosh I’m so good at this

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:04 PM

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@soft terrace yeah seems about right

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:05 PM

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@late tiger I'm not worried about the credits I just didnt enjoy wows

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:05 PM

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I do not like that you can not stop immediately @crystal spoke

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Try throwing it into reverse

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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still will not stop immediately

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Ik but it will make it quicker

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:08 PM

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still against torpedos you are doomed

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Then you go full throttle and to the port or starboard (also I dont think this is the right channel)

gilded pebble Dec 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Because that's how ships work @late tiger :P.

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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yeah but it is a bit dumb at least for me

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:10 PM

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That's just how water works its literally impossible to stop on a dime while on the water

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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stupid real life physics and mechanics, I want an update!!!! @crystal spoke

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Triggered

late tiger Dec 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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#catwithlazereyes

lunar niche Dec 24, 2018, 9:16 PM

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80 mm armour.

📎 Screenshot_20181224-211339_World_of_Tanks.jpg

crystal spoke Dec 24, 2018, 9:16 PM

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I think we should go to offtopic

lunar niche Dec 24, 2018, 9:17 PM

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That was meant for my LFP, but i angled and the shot went to tracks and 80mm hull.

jade field Dec 24, 2018, 9:36 PM

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how do you fight aginst a tank you dont see . also if i paid money to purchase a tank because it performs as i like, howcome you take away some of the performance due to balancing ? you should offer to buy back the tank

hidden scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 11:04 PM

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@lunar niche that’s why I never go C with a Maus, too many camping tds that rely on luck to pen

lunar niche Dec 24, 2018, 11:06 PM

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@hidden scaffold nobody went to the castle.

hidden scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Nah you just go town and lock down the map

lunar niche Dec 25, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I'll keep that in mind. Next time i get that map, will try it.

elfin marlin Dec 25, 2018, 12:33 AM

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red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Oh lord have mercy

ivory fractal Dec 25, 2018, 12:34 AM

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@elfin marlin I get your frustrations but watch your language pls

elfin marlin Dec 25, 2018, 12:35 AM

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i have had it with this game...... since update 5.5 i do nothing but losing. my wr is now 53.53% When update 5.5 was released i had 53.70%wr

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:35 AM

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That’s not so bad of a loss.

elfin marlin Dec 25, 2018, 12:36 AM

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realy.... and how do we tell our frustrations to wh.net? they say we have to be patience to inexperienced players in tier 9 and 10???

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 12:37 AM

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Get used to it, they'll be on your team some times and on their team other times

elfin marlin Dec 25, 2018, 12:38 AM

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i have an 45.000 battle count. every 12 wins my wr goes up 0.01% or every 12 losses it goes down 0.01%..... do the math bro

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before up date 5.5 my wr was going up now it is only going down. red team has mush more high wr players than green team, testerday in tier 10 a player had 26%wr out of 30k battles

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and now we have to watch our language....? a big f u c k you to wg.net. i am only glad that i have never spend a dime in this chit

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 12:42 AM

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lol nice language @bold dagger

bold dagger Dec 25, 2018, 12:42 AM

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oh i c

jade cargoBOT Dec 25, 2018, 12:43 AM

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dynoSuccess Oberst_Leutnant1#1746 was muted

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Maverick would you happen to know the frontal armor of the chieftain mk6?

crystal spoke Dec 25, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I have the same issue he has but I refuse to curse about it

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 12:44 AM

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the upper plate is strong, the turret is very strong but with a weak hatch, lower plate can be penned by most tier 6 tanks @red condor

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Is it worth the $75 usd though?

crystal spoke Dec 25, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Imo no digital tank is

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Yea, true.

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 12:46 AM

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well considering that minimum wage is like 8 usd/hour, and that 10 hours is a lot less than the 100+ you'd spend on actually getting a tier 10, I'd say it is

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Minimum wage here is like 9.50

bold dagger Dec 25, 2018, 12:46 AM

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uh what

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 12:46 AM

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lolwut

bold dagger Dec 25, 2018, 12:47 AM

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https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com @red condor

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Thanks maverick

crystal spoke Dec 25, 2018, 12:48 AM

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Minimum here is 7ish depending on job

red condor Dec 25, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Yea, but, you see, I’m kinda young to have a job...

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Oops, this is balance discussion. My bad.

crystal spoke Dec 25, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Oof yeah to #off-topic-discussion

severe valve Dec 25, 2018, 2:10 AM

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balance idea: buff SP 1 C

storm light Dec 25, 2018, 2:10 AM

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genius

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 2:11 AM

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while we're at it give the Kpfpz 70 a touch up with a small buff

deep pike Dec 25, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Like what it’s reload again?

torn crystal Dec 25, 2018, 2:19 AM

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idea: make 430U available in bawkses for a 0.00001% drop rate

deep pike Dec 25, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Balance idea: should the jag get a decent buff and if so what is it

median gust Dec 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

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I'm seeing way more 183s, at least 2 a match

dim field Dec 25, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Probably because a nerf is coming. They wanna buff their average dmg before it's too late

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 7:37 AM

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Give drac speed buff make same speed as ru

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 7:43 AM

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um no

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 7:44 AM

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It’s top speed is 65

jovial kernel Dec 25, 2018, 7:45 AM

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The tank is kind of too good already

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 8:35 AM

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Good job Wargaming. WTF do you do, we have now proof you send tanks to bots

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Have something to say?

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And merry christmas <@&481447501690568709> <@&511471417045286912> @wargaming!

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 AM

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wow

hoary sorrel Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 AM

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🤔

fossil crag Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 AM

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Merry Christmas! (:

trim imp Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 AM

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yooo merry christmas

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 8:48 AM

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What? :(

gaunt coyote Dec 25, 2018, 8:48 AM

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u2🤗

timid vine Dec 25, 2018, 8:48 AM

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@timber geyser you too

main sorrel Dec 25, 2018, 8:48 AM

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you too

somber mauve Dec 25, 2018, 8:49 AM

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@timber geyser Merry Christmas 😬

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 8:49 AM

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(at least from 1k people that are online) im trying to be good but why only veterans are writing back?

plucky acorn Dec 25, 2018, 8:49 AM

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Ugh its happy holidays. Have some respect.

hoary sorrel Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 AM

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Mary crisis

somber mauve Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 AM

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@timber geyser because you tagged veterans 🤔

plucky acorn Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 AM

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Happy blitzmas

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 AM

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I cant target players

trail tide Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 AM

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y u tag everyone

somber mauve Dec 25, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@timber geyser this is wrong channel to be chatting anyway

worthy basin Dec 25, 2018, 9:00 AM

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@timber geyser very Merry Christmas to you too! =)

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 9:00 AM

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:) u2

worthy basin Dec 25, 2018, 9:00 AM

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And to everyone else, of course, also Happy Holidays! 🎄🎉😘

covert harness Dec 25, 2018, 9:00 AM

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👍

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Whaat😂

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Whaat?

hot iris Dec 25, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Happy ones bud @timber geyser

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Merry blitzmas

late tiger Dec 25, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Unmerry, unhappy Christmas

crimson barn Dec 25, 2018, 10:39 AM

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explain to me why, how do I shoot it, neither hit it or ricochet? 😡 😡 😠

void flint Dec 25, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Happy togmas

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Nah

spring pelican Dec 25, 2018, 10:56 AM

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good thing they cant nerf IS2 1945, after aim buff its beast

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cobalt crane Dec 25, 2018, 1:04 PM

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@timber geyser why don't u just do @everyone

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Because i cant

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And you tagged 2k players

main carbon Dec 25, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Buff Tiger 2

coral bobcat Dec 25, 2018, 1:34 PM

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@timber geyser feliz navidad!

timber geyser Dec 25, 2018, 1:39 PM

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What

pastel patrol Dec 25, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Hey. Happy holidays. For Christmas, everyone in this game needs you to change th spawn - we need to ALL SPAWN AT THE SAME SPOT AND NOT IN TWO PLACES
THAT is the inherent flaw in this game. Teams that spilt t be to los, teams that don't tend to win. Two spawn spots push th team to split. Meds and let's rush off , and die. Heavies are isolat d , and die

snow gust Dec 25, 2018, 2:48 PM

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@pastel patrol But when there is 1 spawn for the team, TD's will rush and heavies camp...

cobalt crane Dec 25, 2018, 2:57 PM

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@pastel patrol you don't understand the game yet do you?

iron lynx Dec 25, 2018, 3:07 PM

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🤦

pastel patrol Dec 25, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Fing unbelievable. Brain dead

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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@pastel patrol if only there were some way for tanks to move to a new location. If only tanks were mobile....if only.

lilac depot Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Who ping

umbral hound Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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T20 and Pershing seem a bit weak.

visual nimbus Dec 25, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Pershing seems fine to me decent tank and gets the job done

rain ivy Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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@unique scaffold if only they had a mysterious thing called tracks? 🤔

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Tracks??? What is this nonsense???

orchid grove Dec 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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@pastel patrol driving 7 tanks together in a lemming train is a good way to give up map control and wind up in some nasty crossfire

worn canopy Dec 25, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate this time of year. Stay safe and more importantly sane as we finish up this year and move into the next.

sudden pier Dec 25, 2018, 6:29 PM

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@rain ivy
Tracks are for normies, I simply allow Stalin to giude my shells from spawn into the enemy tanks

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Eh it's easier to play t49A on PC and you don't even have to pray just autoaim

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 7:47 PM

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You won and still complaining?

rose sierra Dec 25, 2018, 7:47 PM

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look at the other team tho...

drowsy plaza Dec 25, 2018, 7:50 PM

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What goes around comes around. They will be on your team soon enough.

rose sierra Dec 25, 2018, 7:52 PM

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lol wth

timid galleon Dec 25, 2018, 7:59 PM

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wow

lunar niche Dec 25, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Most 0 i have seen

dim field Dec 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Ouch

frozen cloak Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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With this last update I find more noobs, you can not play because they go and give themselves, they would have to improve the MM for the next update, because friends got frustrated because of these people

rose sierra Dec 25, 2018, 8:20 PM

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yea, they should sort the matchmaking by winrate or something

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Bad idea

rose sierra Dec 25, 2018, 8:20 PM

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why is that?

unique scaffold Dec 25, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Eh long story and I'm not in a mood to chat about it

frozen cloak Dec 25, 2018, 8:35 PM

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I think that putting a mm depending on the wr they have would be a good idea

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It's a disgust that having over 53% get paired with people of 44-47%

queen hemlock Dec 25, 2018, 8:37 PM

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@frozen cloak and that's been discussed to death multiple times. Complete nonsense idea because in the long run everybody will eventually get to about 50%

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Just simple maths. For every win, there has to be a loss. For every unicum there is a noob somewhere.
Do you also check the winrates of teams when you get an easy win? @rose sierra

frozen cloak Dec 25, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Yes, they ended up reaching 50% but at the expense of the people who drive them, I try to pass 53% but lately it is impossible for me to win as before, I do not know what they intended to do with the MM, but it is noticeable that this is different

chilly trout Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 PM

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@queen hemlock @queen hemlock I'm a Fan

queen hemlock Dec 25, 2018, 8:55 PM

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You don't understand what I'm saying here @frozen cloak

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You managed to get to 53 on the expense of people who didn't get to that either

rose sierra Dec 25, 2018, 8:55 PM

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i just check the winrates of the players in my and the other team

queen hemlock Dec 25, 2018, 8:56 PM

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If you group the teams by winrates, eventually everybody will end up around 50%

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Thanks @chilly trout

chilly trout Dec 25, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Yay thx

dim field Dec 25, 2018, 9:05 PM

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For every 45% player there is a 55%.

If you pair people by winrate it evens out. Bob who is 60% vs Fred who is 60%. Neither can remain at 60% if they keep getting matched with 60%. Same goes to the 40% players. 40% will eventually move to 50% while those above 50% will drop to 50%.

I think this is what Martin was talking about.

dusky wolf Dec 25, 2018, 9:53 PM

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like what? even 60% would do 0 dmg in someday while there's 30% actually MVP?

dim field Dec 25, 2018, 9:59 PM

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While wr doesn't prevent you from doing zero dmg, where did you even get 0 dmg from?

coarse harness Dec 25, 2018, 11:02 PM

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There are some players with 80+ WR (rerolls, but anyways🙄 ), so blame yourselfes instead of the team and figure out what could you do better.
Learn from your own mistakes...etc.

acoustic zodiac Dec 25, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Excuse me how did the IS 3 self-destruct?
This is on Fort Despair btw

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📎 20181225_2119_GB22_Comet_fort.wotbreplay

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I have no idea @acoustic zodiac i watched it the whole time at wot map inspector.

zenith sand Dec 26, 2018, 1:02 AM

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He haved enough HE

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And he starts shot in a rock.... And he was with the gun in that rock.... I mean burst dmg

acoustic zodiac Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 AM

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He was afk the whole battle

jovial kernel Dec 26, 2018, 1:21 AM

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I think if you disconnect you blow up when the battle ends

quick lichen Dec 26, 2018, 1:43 AM

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That’s very interesting

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Never seen that before

ashen nest Dec 26, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Hey guys I need some help, Im grinding through the Leapard 1 line and I am at the ru right now. The acceleration on that thing sucks even at 100% crew does the leopard 1 have any better acceleration. If not I do not think I will grind it out. Thanks

acoustic zodiac Dec 26, 2018, 2:30 AM

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What abt ur engine?

mossy flicker Dec 26, 2018, 2:33 AM

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I heard the 183 was going to be removed. Is this true?

dim field Dec 26, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Nope

visual nimbus Dec 26, 2018, 3:30 AM

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@mossy flicker No, just nerfed

glad brook Dec 26, 2018, 3:35 AM

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@mossy flicker Well, unless they put in the FV217 Badger and make the 183 a collectible...

mossy flicker Dec 26, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Yeah thats what i heard. But if they make it a collectable im definitely going to grind for it. But if not then i wont waste my time.

loud knoll Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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what's happening to the 183? Pen nerf, Alpha nerf?

glad brook Dec 26, 2018, 4:01 AM

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@loud knoll Mainly mobility nerfs

loud knoll Dec 26, 2018, 4:04 AM

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And I thought the accuracy was bad enough

mossy flicker Dec 26, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Lmao so they are messing up the dispersion and keeping the aim pinpoint accurate?

crystal spoke Dec 26, 2018, 5:18 AM

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UwU they are???

urban lichen Dec 26, 2018, 7:22 AM

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I just got back to this game after 2 years and i was confused there is no crew mastery in all of my tanks. then i bought a Tier VI tank and out of nowhere the crew mastery of all my tanks popped out. the hell man

unique warren Dec 26, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Wallet power

urban lichen Dec 26, 2018, 7:24 AM

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haha

ashen nest Dec 26, 2018, 8:33 AM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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Can someone help me please I dont understand what is in the middle of my screen, it is not a ticket.

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 AM

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I think Russian not balance enough

ashen nest Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 AM

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It looks like a globe but what can I do with it someone please help!

next tide Dec 26, 2018, 9:07 AM

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Nerf 183 !!!!!!!

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Chill tf out it's getting nerfed

gritty wyvern Dec 26, 2018, 9:21 AM

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@glad brook I hope they replace 183 with badger

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 9:29 AM

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No

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Or replace fv215b(183) to fv4002

willow junco Dec 26, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Badger would eat everything

nova ingot Dec 26, 2018, 11:13 AM

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What about buff fcm 50t

toxic current Dec 26, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Is the nerf enough to make a difference tho

late tiger Dec 26, 2018, 11:47 AM

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@ashen nest I got that too the day the event started and i know other people who got in. I sent the pic to Amaunet85 and if you want I will screenshot you the answer I got. Just DM me

iron lynx Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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I hope WG add the FV Conway line to Blitz

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 2:26 PM

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I am not glad they nerf 183, just because people who don't have it keep complaining about it. I often were hit by 183 and died because of it, I didn't complain, I just grinded the tank until I got it to have that firepower and quickness in aiming a big caliber. WG keeps messing as always

iron lynx Dec 26, 2018, 2:49 PM

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It still has the firepower tho, just slower to aim and move

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 PM

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I hope WG add FV217 Badger, turreted TDs line and move 183 to the end of turreted TDs line

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 PM

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I am playing it now , I understand why every camps so much in it, it is horrible once spotted, literally gets ended in just a few seconds. Where as other td's has a chance of bouncing or hiding the thing is so big it can't hide

iron lynx Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 PM

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Yes wann alternative TD line
AT line is too slow for me

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 2:51 PM

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Have you ever played JagdPanzer E-100? It is way worse : worse camo rating, bigger, armor but flat and no turret to angle it properly, lower alpha plus RNGesus laughing at you doing 600 dmg low rolls

iron lynx Dec 26, 2018, 2:52 PM

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Jageru is med free real estate

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 PM

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JagPanzer e100 is all about angling, it has the armor to go hull down and destroy everyone, it can also face hug and the only way to pen it is with apcr or heat

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 PM

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And this is the problem, prammo spam ruins the Jageroo

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Prammo spam ruins most heavily armored tanks

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 PM

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^^^

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 PM

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FOCH is best td since even shotting it's cupola is not 100% sure of penning with heat or apcr

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 PM

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268 can compete with it IMO very good tank it has a bit of all, mobility, gun handling, armor, damage, rate of fire...

dense walrus Dec 26, 2018, 3:15 PM

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X

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 3:18 PM

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Well I think out of all the tanks 263 has best win-rate

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Was wrong dam e4 and 268 is on a roll

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forest tundra Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 PM

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I have tested all tier 10 tanks' static camo factors in my boring time. You may be surprised about some results.

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smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 3:29 PM

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So fv 183 doesn't have then best camo?

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From what everyone was saying I thought it had

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Ofc the light tank has the best camo...

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 3:35 PM

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In td's

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FV has the least

lunar niche Dec 26, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Ofcourse, its the russians on top lol.

sharp wind Dec 26, 2018, 3:55 PM

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The camo rating for every tank is already known

smoky yoke Dec 26, 2018, 4:00 PM

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???? where

lunar niche Dec 26, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Also, a hulldown Jagero will get destroyed before it destroys a single tank lol.

indigo knot Dec 26, 2018, 4:04 PM

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I think 268 is best td overall

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 4:05 PM

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My fav is a foch 155

indigo knot Dec 26, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Jage100 needs a touch up little .....fixing of regular low rolls and a little traverse buff

lunar niche Dec 26, 2018, 4:06 PM

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Its a high tier german tank. It will only get nerfed like what they did with its HEAT pen.

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 4:07 PM

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It was nerfed because it had better HEAT pen than an Obj. 268

lunar niche Dec 26, 2018, 4:08 PM

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And now we are about to get 395 HEAT pen Chinese TDs. WG nerfed the HEAT pen saying it was too much pen and now they do this lmao.

ivory fractal Dec 26, 2018, 4:10 PM

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@forest tundra that’s great! Is ok for me to share this?

spring pelican Dec 26, 2018, 4:35 PM

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hmm

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btw no way 183 had 19.5% camo rating

dense canyon Dec 26, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Im so sad nerf t49 lang ago☹️

forest tundra Dec 26, 2018, 7:21 PM

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@ivory fractal Sure you can

mossy flicker Dec 26, 2018, 7:26 PM

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They should buff the vk 72. I got it with high expectations and tbh its pure trash. Everyone can pen my front and diagonally is even worse bc of the Barrell in the back. Also the 150 pen is horrible. I literally cannot penetrate anything. Either increase penetration or increase front hull armor. One of the two is necessary.

unique scaffold Dec 26, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Lol

grave bear Dec 26, 2018, 7:28 PM

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vk72 has same r100's pen lmao, and the frontal hull armor is enough to bounce all AP shells excluding 300+ pen tds

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wtf u want, a totally unpenetrable frontal hull even with gold?? there is no tank like this sorry, u dont have to work in vk72, only need to press W, like is7, obviusly it cant have same hull effective of an angled maus

forest tundra Dec 26, 2018, 7:33 PM

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@sharp wind there are differences between wot and wotb

indigo knot Dec 26, 2018, 7:41 PM

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I agree vk72 is currently not good tank

grave bear Dec 26, 2018, 7:59 PM

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it is, what did you expect? a buffed e100 in any f k aspect? like more side armor, unpenetrable turret, super heatproof frontal armor, same reload, maybe better accuracy? ...

quick lichen Dec 26, 2018, 8:27 PM

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E100 gun handles better

sharp wind Dec 26, 2018, 9:10 PM

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They already have the camo values listed for WoTB

iron hearth Dec 26, 2018, 10:04 PM

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vk 72 is probably the worst tier 10 there is no point on playing it when you have an e100 hoping wg will buff it in some aspects gun or armor

inner comet Dec 26, 2018, 10:23 PM

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Vk 72 is pretty strong.

valid gust Dec 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Ye it is

lone warren Dec 26, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Imo it isnt.
Going against it;
-the front isnt that hard to pen if you’re close or the tank isnt hull down
-the sides are weak af

Playing it;
The traverse is bad and your sides cna constantly be exposed by flankers
-the gun is one of the most frustrating things on this tank.

lunar niche Dec 27, 2018, 12:08 AM

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Complaining about a superheavy having bad traverse and sides exposed by flankers? Lol.

Better give it 500 mm of armour all around with Leopard 1 lvl of mobility/traverse along with Obj 140 lvl of gun handling on the 15 cm.

lone warren Dec 27, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Having bad traverse is one thing. But when your sides are so weak it makes the frontal armour null. Its not even that hard to face frontally lmao

lunar niche Dec 27, 2018, 12:10 AM

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Its not hard to face it frontally if you use skill ammo.

modern fern Dec 27, 2018, 2:26 AM

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balance™

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Alright so you want a tier 10 Chrysler K. Got it.

hidden scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Why does everyone hate the 7201, it’s a better tank than the E100

sharp wind Dec 27, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Because the K variant is the worst one and was a CWs reward tank on PC.

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 3:23 AM

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wdym there's no other 72.01 on PC

drifting heath Dec 27, 2018, 3:29 AM

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🤔

sharp wind Dec 27, 2018, 3:33 AM

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The Panzer 7 is literally the same tank with a different gun

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Why not just put 2 guns on the 72

sharp wind Dec 27, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Because WG can sell one or the other for $70+

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 3:46 AM

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121b in a shellnut

lunar niche Dec 27, 2018, 4:17 AM

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If WG had brought the 128 mm Pz VII, i don't think most players would grind it. High alpha tank attracts all sort of players afterall.

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 4:20 AM

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True high alpha is never not fun

mental shadow Dec 27, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Why is m60 not give credits when mk gives more credits and shell cost more and it holds more shells?

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 4:50 AM

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M60 is a reward tank, Chieftain Mk.6 is an enriched tank

visual nimbus Dec 27, 2018, 4:56 AM

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But it’s a premium right?
Therefore should earn something!

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Nah fam, it's a reward tank. There's a difference.

smoky yoke Dec 27, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Tier 10s was not suppose to be credit friendly

craggy osprey Dec 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Fv215b183 needs a pen/camo nerf. Keep getting one shot by the thing 24/7 and if not half hp no matter the angles

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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It's getting an accuracy and camo nerf

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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They're doing some balancing already. Don't know when it drops though.

The doggo pfp user beat me to it

craggy osprey Dec 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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#hyped

frail temple Dec 27, 2018, 5:59 AM

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any idea if they'll add in swedish heavies or TD's in the near future? After the chinese TDs maybe?

astral lava Dec 27, 2018, 6:34 AM

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I've heard WG is turning Predator and Vindicator into Collector tanks from Premium means they can nerf them whenever they want to and I've paid Money/Gold for Premiums not Collectors and that's totally Unfair!! And near Future who knows Helsing and Dracula will also be Collector tanks so they can Nerf them whenever, they want? Why WG! Why are you doing these cheap tricks to loose your old Paying customers?

main vine Dec 27, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Wg said Swedish tanks were coming in 2019 @frail temple

frail temple Dec 27, 2018, 8:22 AM

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@main vine aww yiss. Ima be ready. Also, @astral lava they could nerf premiums whenever lol, you really think they'd go the extra mile to make excuses for themselves? Silliness 🙄

ivory fractal Dec 27, 2018, 8:39 AM

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@main vine it was atcually said in a Chinese Blitz server QnA

iron lynx Dec 27, 2018, 10:07 AM

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Swedish?
TDs or Heavies?

iron hearth Dec 27, 2018, 11:35 AM

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i hope both i think they will be pretty op they have crazy armor im saving free exp for them

fossil nest Dec 27, 2018, 11:44 AM

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is this a glitch or what

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i have some more of something weird

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unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Lol

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 1:17 PM

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@astral lava. Premium or collector status is irrelevant. Wargaming can and always has been able to make adjustments (nerfs or buffs) to any tank in the game.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Making any tank worthless in a matter of time

grave bear Dec 27, 2018, 1:57 PM

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i think vk72k is pretty balanced. u cant go in close range like e100 and thinking to bounce, in distance is pretty hard to pen. you need skill. buffing vk72 mobility, gun handling or armor would powercreep e100

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vk72k has totally same e100's gun in any aspect, with +1 s reload, and it has stronger frontal armor but weaker sides. depends on your playstyle. in openfield i dont think e100 has more armor than vk72.

frigid pivot Dec 27, 2018, 2:44 PM

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@fossil nest it happens when u play rating battles and u didnt play randoms with that tank before

empty verge Dec 27, 2018, 2:48 PM

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i think wg should reset all winr8s so that the newcomers who become skilled wont be discriminated about ther 1000loses they had,its immpossible to win 1000 battle in a row lol

fossil nest Dec 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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thats nice to know that it isn't a hacker since i had a suspicion it was

rocky sand Dec 27, 2018, 3:47 PM

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I miss the 105mm on the Hetzer, bring it back.....

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 3:49 PM

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@empty verge that idea is dumb

jagged river Dec 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Dracula's alpha dmg should be changed to 200. And its maneuverability should be nerfed too.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 3:56 PM

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No

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 4:22 PM

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It's very unlikely somebody will win 1000 battles in a row, however play enough battles and those 1000 battle (loss) they are carrying around will be irrelevant.

sterile shore Dec 27, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Does anyone have that swedish td and hv names or pics

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Google does

sterile shore Dec 27, 2018, 4:37 PM

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🤔 👀

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I forgot Google does exist

obsidian osprey Dec 27, 2018, 5:27 PM

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WG could just show 30 day winrate on the in game stats page along with average damage and average tier, and with the stats of the top 3 most played tanks in that period. That would be the most useful and effective way to discern player skill. Very easy to detect attempts to statpad at that point and rerolls would be totally screwed over. Win win win

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 5:31 PM

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This would bring more salt to the game. Stop, it already makes the Dead Sea look unsalted...

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Unecessary

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@obsidian osprey. I think that would be great. I also think that if your WR is sub 50% at the tier you are playing then your team and global chat should be shut down for the first 30 seconds of a match.

Tired of bad players giving bad commands that other bad players then follow. A match shouldn't start with me arguing with a 38%er.

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What about the one spamming « help » command to get the team behind him

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Shut that down too.

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If you lose more than you win at the tier in question (for the past 30days) then you don't get to say anything for the first 30 seconds of the match.

obsidian osprey Dec 27, 2018, 5:36 PM

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@unique scaffold yep, sounds like a massively positive change that should be relatively uncontroversial. Too bad we get avatars instead lol

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 5:36 PM

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I just want a platoon indicator light.

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But this means I’d get muted in tier 10, and I don’t like that because I usually ask my team what they want me to do

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Just follow their lead and know your role.

clever mauve Dec 27, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Exactly

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I'm going to sound like a jerk saying this...but if you are in tier X and you don't know the role that you should be playing then you are part of the problem.

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True
But accepting that you don’t know it and trying to improve is a step forward and better than not accepting it then blame it on the team

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I'd argue that tier X is not the place that you should be learning your role.

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Idk I managed to do fine in lower tiers in terms of WR and average dmg/spot
It feels like tier 10 is a very different place

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The only tier 10 I have acceptable stats in is the Object 263

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Tier X is a mess.

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F-word

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Personally I think heavies and TD's need to have their view range trimmed back. The hits that mediums took in the 3.# updates hit way too hard.

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:01 PM

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k

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the only tank they need to nerf is wz 111 1g ft
cdc vs this op td
cdc cant circle it
cdc cant pen its front armour even with heat
atleast they should nerf its mobility bec in the hands of new players its ok but in skilled player u are lost

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:08 PM

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@twilit ocean. Track it and get behind it. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.

late tiger Dec 27, 2018, 6:09 PM

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@twilit ocean CDC does not have HEAT, it has APCR

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:09 PM

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@unique scaffold very easy

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Yes. It is very easy.

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:10 PM

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@late tiger whatever prammo common sense

late tiger Dec 27, 2018, 6:11 PM

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get to know the tanks better and what shells they use

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:11 PM

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@late tiger ok i will but it isnt going to help the discussion
talk about the main issue

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@unique scaffold do u own wz 111 1g?

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Nope. But I kill them fairly often.

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wz 120 1G ft

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I knew what he was trying to say 🤣

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😉

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:15 PM

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smh

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:17 PM

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SMH is right. You mess up the ammo load out. You mess up the tank names. And yet you think we should take your balance ideas seriously?

SMH.
🤦‍♂️

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:18 PM

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yes u can its up to u who cares

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:19 PM

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https://media.giphy.com/media/oQ6P5nknXM40w/giphy.gif

Giphy

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 6:21 PM

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No turret = Balance

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:22 PM

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but with great transverse speed its not

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 6:22 PM

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Track - side ram finish it

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:22 PM

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And we have come full circle. Shoot the tracks.

twilit ocean Dec 27, 2018, 6:23 PM

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ok thanks

keen nexus Dec 27, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Most cdcs have no problems penning mine. Assumeing the aim nor do I have issues dealing with them myself track or surprise it while it's shooting your team lol

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 6:23 PM

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It’s a strong tank, but due to lack of turret it’s team dependent.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:27 PM

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I'd like to see the interclip reload on all autoloaders get a buff across the board.

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 6:27 PM

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No, too much front loaded damage

obsidian osprey Dec 27, 2018, 6:28 PM

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The lower plate is an easy pen in general. CDC has excellent pen as far as tier 8 meds go. If you go face to face against a WZ-120-1G FT in a cdc, they will probably win, but that’s by design. WZ has no turret, low HP total, trollish but easily beatable armor, good but not great gun handling. Its DPM is probably a bit too high, but people are making it out to be way more OP than it is.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:30 PM

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@drowsy plaza. That's the point. I think the changes to autoloaders from Console /PC to blitz are too harsh. The point of them is to get in dump a clip and then get out. Most autoloaders already lost half of their clip (hell the Bulldog should have a 10 round clip), that should be enough. Keep the interclip the same as their PC cousins.

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Way too game breaking

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:32 PM

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I respectfully disagree.

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Make aim time the limiting factor. Not interclip reload.

fossil nest Dec 27, 2018, 6:46 PM

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i think the type 62 should be nerfed it is so annoying. change its reload or aim time since the lttb is now the poor mans type 62

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Buff the lttb

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It has been over nerfed. It needs some love in the gun department.

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Idk why do ppl complain about tanks that aren't even op...

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 6:54 PM

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They complain because they'd rather nerf it than learn to deal with it

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 6:55 PM

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idk the issue with the WZ-120-1 FT is that it beats the AC 48 in basically every single way

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It's got slightly less but almost the same mobility, 500 more dpm, armor is roughly the same, better gun handling, and it loses 12mm of penetration for all that. Also it has much smaller weak spots and a smaller profile.
Oh yeah 122mm guns can't HE it from the side like they can with the AC 48

obsidian osprey Dec 27, 2018, 6:57 PM

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The AC48 could probably use a slight buff. The Foch is such a huge improvement, it makes clear just how lacking the AC48 is in most respects. The main issues I had were the low dpm and poor gun handling.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I loved mine tho 🤔

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Foch has 3% better dispersion, wow what an improvement...

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Dpm does suck tho

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 7:02 PM

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Then another one with comparable mobility, the JgPanther II, needs to keep the hull hidden at all times to not get completely wrecked and penetrated by everything, but is more accurate, has more dpm, has more alpha, and has more gun depression. The main issue with this is all the armor is on the superstructure. The rest of that armor is paper, and the moment it gets exposed, you're getting pumped full of shells.
The WZ doesn't really need to worry about being in the open as no one's going to reliably pen the upper plate except the BL-10, and the lower plate and hatches are pretty much impossible to hit.

obsidian osprey Dec 27, 2018, 7:29 PM

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People seem to have caught on; I used to be able to sit in the open and wiggle a bit to bounce shots in the WZ. Now, if I try to do that, i die in about 10 seconds.

unique scaffold Dec 27, 2018, 7:31 PM

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I'll just spam prammo on it everytime I see it

lone warren Dec 27, 2018, 9:17 PM

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i made a new account bought one crate gave me a lucky ticket and i got the wz-120 ft. Its so good lmao but sometimes you either bounce everything or you lose your health in a nanosecond. ISU’s are very annoying

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 9:39 PM

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T14 was good but now it is very bad

jovial kernel Dec 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Meh

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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In general. Tier 5 became far away from tier 6

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If you took away condumables you should a little compensate it

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WG are you here? ;)

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I even bought turbo to KV-1

viral current Dec 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Why do I always get XP booster from containers? 🤔

drowsy plaza Dec 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Tier 5 is still competitive to tier 6’s.

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lone obsidian Dec 27, 2018, 11:20 PM

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do u use boosters oy oy oy

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:41 PM

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84% of wins? Then who is losing? :) weird

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If one team win the other lose. Looks like 50% always in general stats

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 11:45 PM

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That's their stats

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Then many years tier 5 was very very bad balanced in relation to tier 6. How it come?

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 11:47 PM

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I don't understand what you're asking

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Whole tier 5 was badly nerfed with update 5.x . Tier6 stayed untouched

dim field Dec 27, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Tier 5 was kinda nerfed, yes. Tier 6 was mostly untouched, yes. But you can still pull some weight while using tier 5 against tier 6.

tribal summit Dec 27, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Yes. I feel like statist if i am mixed with tier6 in battle :)

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Like spectator :) My skill doesnt matter so much as before. That is whatbi dont like about it

crystal spoke Dec 28, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Yeah with the right tank you can go into a t6 fight and do good

tribal summit Dec 28, 2018, 12:21 AM

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So many years we had tragic balance between tier 5and 6?

golden oriole Dec 28, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Can somebody please explain why the T-34-3 is suck a worthless tank. Reload is past slow (14.5 sec.) for a tank that dont pin 75% of tanks. Even the T49 reload is faster an to be a premium tank that has suck weak aspects that are not even close the what wargaming said. When fasle aspects on a tank dont match true aspects of the tankbin the game why not buff the tank an make reload faster for the price of that tank its worth $5 not $50.

iron hearth Dec 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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Premium tanks used to be a worse counter part of tech tree tanks 🙃

umbral hound Dec 28, 2018, 2:11 AM

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T20 and Pershing are whack

sinful parrot Dec 28, 2018, 2:13 AM

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@golden oriole its a pretty good tank.... im sure you're not playing it right, the aim time and alpha are amazing as well as good armor.

quick lichen Dec 28, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Where does wg lie about the t-34-3?

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 2:40 AM

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The part where they said they take refunds

dusky oxide Dec 28, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Its very good when the enemy are noobs who just peek but never rush you. The lack of mobility compared to the type 59 is a little frusturating at times. Same goes for fighting the IS-X plague in the t-34-3

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 3:35 AM

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The T-34-3 has a punchy gun, and a good turret, but it seems to suffer in most other regards...

smoky yoke Dec 28, 2018, 4:09 AM

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its almost a carbon copy of the T-34-2 ,

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That's how premiums are suppose to be made.

crude pumice Dec 28, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Dear DEVs.
Plz give a buff at M60's detail here.😭

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tidal schooner Dec 28, 2018, 4:15 AM

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plz, stop buying stuff in-game, you won't get punished.😇

smoky yoke Dec 28, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Is that even pennable? If not ,just think of it as an attachment

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Yeah, it’s not part of the hitbox. And the only thing behind it is the mantlet, and you won’t pen that

crude pumice Dec 28, 2018, 4:32 AM

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no, i dont want hull buff. need more modeling detail . sry my non-good eng.

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Ahh. Yeah I agree, it looks a little muddy

crude pumice Dec 28, 2018, 4:34 AM

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M60 is great tank.it's real strong at hulldowned. it's not need any buff without detail.

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Yeah, the model just needs to look better

visual nimbus Dec 28, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Even the grill needs updating it’s so fuzzy

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Yeah, seems like a rushed model

empty verge Dec 28, 2018, 5:59 AM

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i know the reset of winr8 is dumb but it can favor some people like me like me,in blitzstars 60days i have 59%winr8 over 2000 battles but it still displays 44%in my account .ik cuz i was a dumb player before but now im not soo dumb😢

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 6:04 AM

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If you have 2000 battles, you can improve your WR easily. I had like 44% before (around 15 000 battles) and I went to 50% 21k

empty verge Dec 28, 2018, 6:09 AM

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the other thing is the matchmaking the higher tier should be minor in number than the lower tier

empty verge Dec 28, 2018, 6:26 AM

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i mean top tier tnks to be 3 or less than 3

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 6:27 AM

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WG tried something similar on PC with matchmaker templates and everyone hated it

jovial kernel Dec 28, 2018, 6:31 AM

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yeah 3/5/7 was seriously garbage

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 6:31 AM

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It suuuucked

plucky acorn Dec 28, 2018, 6:37 AM

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templates make the game less dynamic

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 6:38 AM

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Exactly. I still miss +2/-2, but we’ve all been down that road...

plucky acorn Dec 28, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Oh yes +2/-2 with my T-22 would be wOnDeRfUl

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 6:46 AM

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I wanna DPM Tier 6s to death in my AT 15

smoky yoke Dec 28, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Even +2/ -2 has problems. If you have a tank with low penetration then being buttom tier is horrible. All you can do is play for the team and spot

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Yeah, that’s true. But it was FUN

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I can still remember being in a Crusader, dancing around and weaving between Tier VII heavies, popping shot after shot into them. It was like David V. Goliath.

sterile shore Dec 28, 2018, 6:52 AM

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👌

empty verge Dec 28, 2018, 7:22 AM

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thats not it i mean in a regular battle there are 2 tiers-one top one low,i want the no of top tier tnks to be 3 or less than 3

analog dagger Dec 28, 2018, 9:03 AM

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I miss my crusader, now it has a longer reload, basically it's now a 90 alpha comet

twin egret Dec 28, 2018, 9:17 AM

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than stop seal clubbing lol

tawny sail Dec 28, 2018, 9:31 AM

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then*

ember thunder Dec 28, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Allow the secondary guns to shoot WG

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 10:01 AM

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Like they could do any damage...

ember thunder Dec 28, 2018, 10:01 AM

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but still..it would be cool af

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ok fine...
WG bring co-op battles pls

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 10:03 AM

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This is a balance discussion room not for wishes

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 11:51 AM

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The ISU-152 needs a nerf. The tank does too much damage per minute. This tank is also often matched with Borsig , SU-152 and Autoloaders in a team. For me ISU-152 is like the Death Star. Too OP. The statistics would have to show that he distributed above average damage.

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 11:53 AM

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How do you nerf a tank that isn't even in the game? 🤔

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 11:54 AM

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lol ༼ つ ಥ_ಥ ༽つ just got rekt!!!

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 12:05 PM

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@turbid canopy Tell wg to stop import OP premium tankdestroyers.
Then maybe we can talk about ISU152

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 12:13 PM

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@cunning compass if you mean the WZ TD .. the difference is that he is not permanently matched with other high dpm tanks. The ISU-152 already.

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 12:13 PM

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So ur concern is matchmaking for ISU?

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@turbid canopy We also have Scorpion G. And if u think ISU gets better matchups then thats a diffrent issue, not the tank itself

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 12:16 PM

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From ten battles ISU152 fights in eight battles with other high dpm tanks in the team.

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 12:16 PM

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so what???

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 12:19 PM

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@cunning compass no .. the isu-152 has too accurate a cannon too good camouflage plus high damage output. In addition, she is often matched with other high dpm tanks in the team.

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Do u have ISU? Whats ur stats on it. @turbid canopy I wanna check ur stats on it

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 12:20 PM

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@cunning compass you know he may be on a different server

coarse harness Dec 28, 2018, 12:22 PM

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The ISU is OP, thats obvious so play with that and don't cry😉

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 12:22 PM

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People want see nerfed BL-10 while WG introduce tanks such as WZ and Scorpion G. Give me a brake

coarse harness Dec 28, 2018, 12:24 PM

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Just compare to the Borsig, what the nerfed🙄

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 12:24 PM

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it's about game balance and the isu-152 is not that. Wish you have a nice day.

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 12:24 PM

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It gonna end up With Weak Tech tree tanks and op prems that cant be nerfed in matches

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Lol, just wait. U want more nerfed tech tree tanks while u dont give a single dam about new OP prems that will ruin matchmaking. Look at tier 8 , there are more prems than tech tree tanks.

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coarse harness Dec 28, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Prem tanks in T8 are peeerfectly fine, those aren't OP at all🙄

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indigo knot Dec 28, 2018, 12:55 PM

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ISU 152 is fine and this and JP2 are the only tanks that I think can only do well against op tier 8 premium .....and they have weak points too unlike Wz120 1 ft and amx m4 49 and other new premium tanks added. I think Vk100 1p, ISU 152 and JP2 are few tanks that and free to play player can get and can fight these OP tanks on par. And mostly those who have bought premium tanks are the only ones who have been rambling about these tanks to be OP when they get bullied in there premium tanks. Afterall tech tree version shouldn't be under powered when up against premium tanks. I hope you get what I am trying to say @turbid canopy

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Can you tell me how could AMX M4 49 be OP? You can literally HE its sides with most of high calibers
Its front is very strong, and this is normal for an heavy tank. It has weak sides to balance it
Moreover why do people complain about M4 49 being OP and not about M6A2E1 EXP, which has stronger front (it isn’t OP either) ?

indigo knot Dec 28, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Mobility is something that amx m4 49 has along with high dpm upto that british heavy along with good gun .....in case of m6a2e1 exp the mobility is not that good and thats what make much difference between both the heavys though you can HE the sides of both the tanks but amx m4 49 is better in every way than M6exp

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i am not saying its much OP but just a little over cooked

kind fossil Dec 28, 2018, 2:16 PM

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@unique scaffold Love both sides, amx or M6, with my T49....😂

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 2:24 PM

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@kind fossil exactly lol

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 2:43 PM

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@Poker ._. because many need a camper who also penetiert an amx frontal. That is why the ISU152 so popular. Do little camping doing high damage. But actively fighting is not doing ISU 152 drivers.

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 2:46 PM

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ISU-152 is a good tank, but it's not op. Many tanks can pen it frontally and it's turretless. If you know where the favorite snipe spots are, you can learn relatively safe routes to hit it from the side or just blindfire those spots.

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 2:48 PM

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isu 152 is definitely OP

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 2:48 PM

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How so?

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Are you one of those that charge an ISU straight on or stay out in the open and question why it hits you with HE?

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If it were op it wouldn't have any drawbacks or the drawbacks would be irrelevant.

iron lynx Dec 28, 2018, 2:52 PM

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I penned ISU from the front with Rhm 15 cm HE
Idk where I hit but the ISU is definitely not OP

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Rhm and Isu can both deal with eachother pretty well. If you angle a jagpather2 well enough you can block shots from a Isu aswell. The premium wz also can give an isu some trouble aswell.

turbid canopy Dec 28, 2018, 2:54 PM

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The ISU 152 does not have a weak spot .. a lasergun .. a camouflage value that is much too high .. one damage per shot which is the highest on its tier. You just need to squat in the bushes three times to hit ..that’s it.

iron lynx Dec 28, 2018, 2:55 PM

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The RHM has the same damage per shot as the ISU, and better camo values too
Rhm is even more suitable for camping bushes

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Isu also isn't very friendly in the gun depression department and Rhm has a turret.

iron lynx Dec 28, 2018, 2:57 PM

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And ISU is easy to flank
Get a ltwt or even an RU

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And who said the ISU doesn't have a weakspot
Everything in front is a weakspot except the gun mantlet

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 3:02 PM

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iron lynx Dec 28, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Oh welp the insanely OP WZ 120 G FT is in too

dim field Dec 28, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Isu seems pretty balanced compared to the other tier 8 TDs. It has higher alpha but usually has weaker speed or armor compared to something else. Less dpm and armor vs at-15, slower speed and reload than Amx or Jpather2

lone plover Dec 28, 2018, 3:34 PM

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He said it has a laser gun. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

iron lynx Dec 28, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Laser gun which usually hits the tracks

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Or rocks

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 4:54 PM

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They should replace БЛ-10 gun by БЛ-4C like they did on PC. This one has a bit less pen and is totally inaccurate

timid galleon Dec 28, 2018, 5:55 PM

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BL-10 still misses even when fully aimed

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 5:55 PM

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Troll cannon

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 5:56 PM

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But when it hits it packs a punch

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 6:08 PM

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If...

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 6:11 PM

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if...

cunning compass Dec 28, 2018, 6:15 PM

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if...

torpid hatch Dec 28, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Big if

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Frankly the ISU isn’t nearly as powerful as the SU-152 is tier for tier.

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Idea:
Premium shells should sold much less..

10-15%of the ammo capacity (of your current Tank) it's able to buy Premium shells for - >CREDITS

More than 10-15% you need to buy premium shells in value of gold!

The Idea is to stop people to get killed by spamming Heat/APCR

@magic phoenix
@unique scaffold

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 6:29 PM

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@empty wharf why? We’ve already had Prammo nerf’d in 3.9. The vast majority of HEAT/APCR already has a dmg penalty

torpid hatch Dec 28, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Heat spam... 🤦🏻‍♂️

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This^^

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Look up to Tier X and you only see prem

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 6:33 PM

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I carry 12 HE in my T49, and 10 HEAT, why should I need to pay Gold for the HE @empty wharf ???

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In what? I rarely shoot Prammo in my X tanks. Of course I actually aim.

wooden gazelle Dec 28, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Anybody worth their salt fires mostly standard ammo anyways, the 15% DPM cut is too much of a penalty as-is.

jovial kernel Dec 28, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Premium ammo should be for negating RNG in situations where you can't afford to wait in the line of fire an aim, or where you need to finish a heavily armored one shot target, or maybe when it's too risky to flank. The only tank where gold spam is somewhat viable is the WZ-113 which has 370 prammo alpha for some strange reason.

winged barn Dec 28, 2018, 6:47 PM

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And the poor fv4202...
Need I say more?

jovial kernel Dec 28, 2018, 6:52 PM

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ah right, but that's skillful gold spamming

tawdry moat Dec 28, 2018, 6:59 PM

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Yep, when you are firing HESH you actually need to aim.. but do i dare say that... looks at 183 ugh..

torpid hatch Dec 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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No you don’t need to aim unless you are farming dama....sniping. Just find flat surfaces.

tawdry moat Dec 28, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I mean when i am brawling i still aim with HESH.. dont want it hitting tracks or what not..

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 7:05 PM

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How about we just undo all of the balance changes since 3.4. problem solved.

cursive flower Dec 28, 2018, 7:27 PM

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^

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Meh

hidden scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 8:04 PM

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The medium nerf and gold damage nerf was needed though, they just need to undo the overall medium pen nerf

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Some of the med pen I’d split the difference- or I could live with the current pen with another 10-15m of view range

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I'd like to see heavies and TD's lose coated optics

hidden scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 8:10 PM

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I’d be on board if we bring back camo net and heavy spall liner

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Invisible T-62A spamming. HEAT intensifies
This is a joke btw

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How about we just go back to the pre 3.8 equipment? I mean it's good enough for console and PC...

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Yes I want the heavy spall liner for my T28 HTC and it’ll be invincible lol
No more 400 splash dmg from KB-2s

jovial kernel Dec 28, 2018, 8:46 PM

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I'd rather not have bino net rammer TDs but mostly yeah

jagged river Dec 28, 2018, 8:57 PM

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It was good to have -10% reload with the old equipment

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 9:08 PM

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@drowsy plaza
No it isn't a way to Force people to buy with gold premium rounds, it is just a idea to get people to play with knowlage and forgive people more in there mistakes.
Sure every idea has some drawbacks but in my opinion it is a good way to get WOTB going!.
Allow people who recently start with WOTB to live longer then 2min, armor is there to hold you alive, you will feel a diffrence between havey Tank, Medium, and Light tank.

10-15% is available for Credits depending which tank you drive

Above the 10-15% of your Max capacity you need to buy it for Gold

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 9:10 PM

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There are other things that need to be balanced but not ammo, prammo spamming is not an issue

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Sure some armor changes need to be done and some tanks should get a real Weakspot

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Ah the star trek man is here now....

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Game needs to go back to rewarding those with knowledge and map awareness. Not those who bring the most armor or biggest gun. The Heavy / TD meta at tier X is getting old.

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 9:15 PM

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@unique scaffold on point tank you Mr. Spock! Pls beam me up

late tiger Dec 28, 2018, 9:16 PM

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@empty wharf beam me up???

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Beam me up scotty* wrong sentence

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@empty wharf your idea will hurt med tanks more. Frankly I’d rather see most heavies get a speed nerf. The heavy/TD Mira is only due to the medium nerf from 3.6, and the more significant boosts heavies got from the 3.8 equipment system. The 10% -> 7% rammer hurt higher DPM tanks more as their rammer 3% loss was larger. Especially when faced with the losses in pen, and heavier opponents increase in health or armor.

empty wharf Dec 28, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Perhaps WG was trying to stop the Meds from distance sniping and overall overwhelming the heavy tanks with dpm/penetration and in some point armor.
This is a balancing factor

zealous stone Dec 28, 2018, 9:50 PM

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@empty wharf the premo prob was fixed by reducing its dmg

drowsy plaza Dec 28, 2018, 9:53 PM

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@empty wharf so you see it’s a self licking ice cream cone. The meta rotates as nerf/buffs occur. Your Prammo complaints are not relevant since 3.9

zealous stone Dec 28, 2018, 9:57 PM

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@empty wharf and your idea to make premo to be bought with gold after an X amount of shells is utter BS(sry for the language but not rly) it would make them a Pay2Win factor which is not needed
And your complain abt meds is rly irelevant since the T9-10 mediums got their pen nerfed ages ago so the heavies are better.

rocky sand Dec 28, 2018, 10:33 PM

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I only fire prammo in emergencies or to ensure kills on low HP high tier tanks

unique scaffold Dec 28, 2018, 10:48 PM

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I fire prammo when it's necessarily and I don't see a problem with that. I wouldn't miss out on damage because someone could call me a gold noob

void marten Dec 28, 2018, 10:49 PM

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^👌🏻

empty ice Dec 28, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Pramo ammo is fair, it has increased penetration but decreased alpha. People who complain about pramo ammo are just salty because they don't understand the game mechanics and don't realise that a maus has to be angled to be effective

empty ice Dec 28, 2018, 11:41 PM

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@rain bough

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@rain bough

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 12:15 AM

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or they dont know you can use credits

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 12:36 AM

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I mean it's annoying meeting a full HEAT Type 62 but meh

sullen vault Dec 29, 2018, 12:50 AM

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then dont get heat spammed

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 12:52 AM

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matchmaking unbalanced

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 12:52 AM

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correct its random

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 12:54 AM

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why i use new tank and play with upper tier fak u wargaming

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 12:54 AM

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bc that was the quickest game they could get you into

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 12:55 AM

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well fak u wargaming fak u mathcmaking not fair

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 12:55 AM

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if you dont enjoy dont play

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nobody is stopping you

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 1:27 AM

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@haughty harness.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/57198ee60950680663c5779e9f968689/tenor.gif?itemid=5547649

sharp island Dec 29, 2018, 1:29 AM

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@haughty harness dont complain bout that lol, it's better than the past +2/-2 MM where your stock centurion can meet a maus (example situation)

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T32 needs buff cus of new line

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 1:34 AM

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i met a mauchen on stock caernarvon

sharp island Dec 29, 2018, 1:35 AM

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sure sucks then, but better than a maus or som fv183

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 1:50 AM

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people that complain about the VK 100.01 (P) are actually just complaining about noob teams in matchmaking change my mind

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I wish we still had +2/-2 mm

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 2:22 AM

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+2/-2 game mode would be interesting. Possibly frustrating though.

inner comet Dec 29, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Challenging, but fun

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 2:26 AM

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I can just imagine an LTTB completely memeing tier 5s with better dpm, alpha, penetration, armor, and better than Dracula mobility.

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Old school Leo (tier 5) just one shotting tier 3 people via ramming

umbral hound Dec 29, 2018, 3:11 AM

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@unique scaffold Why? I started after that ended but it sounds terrible

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 3:15 AM

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It forced players to actually think so they didn't suck in high tiers

umbral hound Dec 29, 2018, 3:35 AM

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@jovial kernel I don't really understand that. I guess I will just have to take your word for it.

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 3:36 AM

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When you can't pen, are almost a one shot at any time, and most everything out speeds and out damages you, it makes you have to be a lot more crafty to have any impact.

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 3:37 AM

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And then WG made premium tanks that were bad but never got bottom tier

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Pz b2 was one of em, right?

I don't recall ever being matched with tier 5 but that was a while ago since i played it.

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Also IS-6 and KV-5

winged barn Dec 29, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Was the b2 in the game at that point?

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Those used to never face tier 10 but could bully tier 6

umbral hound Dec 29, 2018, 4:26 AM

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@dim field I guess I just can't really picture it playing out that way. If a lot of players can't wrap their minds around the most basic tactics. I can't picture the idea that making the game harder would make them be any craftier or better at all. I also imagine any good would be offset by the ability to dominate games as top tier with less skill required. Like playing a VK100.01p vs T6 enemies. I am just a noob though, I don't know anything really. Just guessing.

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 4:31 AM

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I'd wager that's likely why they stopped it. Low tiers were mostly getting frustrated while high tier could be reckless and thus not learn much either.

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Most of the experienced players learned tactics from back then. It's easy to get rid of but hard to re-implement

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 6:40 AM

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@bold dagger about 90% sure fak counts as profanity here

bold dagger Dec 29, 2018, 6:40 AM

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@haughty harness coherent sentences only

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 6:41 AM

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k SORRY

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i just matchmakin realy piss me off how come i use new caernarvon they put me on tier 9 THAT WAS A NEW tank WARGAMING WHY!!??

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Why not?

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No, it's random, you can't always be top tier just because your tank is stock...
Btw stop with the caps

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 6:48 AM

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BUT ITS SO NOT FAIR HOW COME NEW TANKS play with tier 9??!!

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that is so broken in matchmaking

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 6:49 AM

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No

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 6:54 AM

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@haughty harness its not unfair at all its purely random. now if it was just happening to you then it would be unfair

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 6:58 AM

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YES IT IS @crystal spoke

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Ok kid time to go to bed @haughty harness

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 7:01 AM

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OK ITS 2:01 pm at my time @unique scaffold

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and its afternoon not night

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Then go somewhwere else or talk about things that you actually know something about

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 7:03 AM

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how its the same way to every one there for its fair

haughty harness Dec 29, 2018, 7:04 AM

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😢

crystal spoke Dec 29, 2018, 7:06 AM

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the first def of fair "in accordance with the rules or standards; legitimate"

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 7:42 AM

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Can I have an honest answer on why provisions are more expensive to restock than the actual vehicle repair itself?

sharp bay Dec 29, 2018, 7:47 AM

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idk, my ammo is worth more than my provisions, repairs and camo itself

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 7:48 AM

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12k to repair 121b. 16k for provisions

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Because yea that makes sense

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 9:30 AM

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If it has good credit coeff provisions won’t really be a problem

sinful flame Dec 29, 2018, 9:55 AM

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This is ridiculous. In addition to the unhistorical Scavenger's unbalanced damage—... WHY do German mediums' 75mm AP rounds have only 120 damage? Absolutely ridiculous. 😒

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severe bough Dec 29, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Yeah but the pen on scavenger is trash

tiny cairn Dec 29, 2018, 10:21 AM

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dont you realize it has an absolute bs pen

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Wargaming said that if you have a maus on one team you will likely have a maus or e100 or similar heavy tank on the other. I have seen this working at tier X, but in the lower tiers especially with the new VK, I have seen more unfair matchmaking because the only fair opponent to the new VK is an other VK as tanks such as the is5 can struggles to out play the VK, due to is armour. I'm not saying it's a bad thing it's just as the VK has its negatives, I just think wargaming need to implement another tier 8 maus like tank to improve the chance of a fair or "even" match.

late tiger Dec 29, 2018, 11:59 AM

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@empty ice Vks bottom plate is very very very easy to pen with AP on any tank the same tier

manic dirge Dec 29, 2018, 12:12 PM

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The 183 does not need a nerf imo, reason ? It has bad camo rating, it is a big tank, it has bad gun handeling, not great accuracy, bad top speed with an ok traverse. all it has is great damage with great pen, and now you will nerf the traverse of the veichle which is already bad and you will nerf the accuracy aswell too ? thats just a big no. Its accuracy is already not good, and now you will make it have worse accuracy than some russian tanks ? the tank lituraly has everything bad except the traverse and gun damage and the penetration. thats it

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:14 PM

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@late tiger it is easy to pen if th VK driver is clueless I agree, but a skilled VK driver will never just drive straight toward you they would I hope drive at an angle, to either bounce or absorb the shot into the tracks

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@manic dirge the 183 has better camo than the grill 15 which has less armour. The accuracy is bad, buts it's dispersion is good on rotation which means it can "easily" hit snapshot. If it is already a bad tank, then why does it have the highest average damage of any tier x tanks. Although it has a low win rate, it just slows down the game play for each match because players are too scared to peak against a death star.

manic dirge Dec 29, 2018, 12:26 PM

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the reason it has better camo rating than grille is because the grille is taller ffs, the reason it got highest damage is because you just need 2 shots that have to connect and ure gonna be around 2k-2.6k dmg which tells you that i has a high damage gun. and to eliminate the death star, just flank it from where they wouldnt expect you to come from. its that easy

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and if they nerf death stars damage or hesh, people will start playing jageru which means that tank will get nerfed soon enough too

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:27 PM

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TRIGGERED

manic dirge Dec 29, 2018, 12:30 PM

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what i would complain about is that jageru has a bigger gun than 268 and has lower AP and HE pen but same Heat pen. You serious wargaiming ?

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:30 PM

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Death star has a turret, jageru does not... 183 has a larger calibur gun, louder noise. Therefore it should be spotted.
Jageru has a similar alpha gun and yet it has the lowest average damage.

manic dirge Dec 29, 2018, 12:30 PM

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not at all similar 130 damage difference

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but jageru has armor which death star does not

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:31 PM

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Still pretty close, hence the word "similar" not thr "same"

lone warren Dec 29, 2018, 12:36 PM

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WG did the right thing. Not change the actual gun itself but the accuracy which was honestly not bad for a gun that caliber and the traverse which is way too good rn with the turret it can screw over meds hard

manic dirge Dec 29, 2018, 12:37 PM

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@lone warren no the only thing thec could change about it is the traverse i agree but not the accuracy, it already didnt have that great of the accuracy

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:42 PM

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@manic dirge it has good enough accuracy to hit people on the move 1 out of 3 times

lone warren Dec 29, 2018, 12:43 PM

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I disagree. I can’t remember what exactly they are changing about the accuracy but the bloom when turning the tank is too good for a gun that caliber. When you have fully aimed in its not that bad.
Personally i would make it more like the kv2, not as bad obviously but look at the kv2. Yeah it can be a strong op tank but its accuracy is terrible and its bloom is massive

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Counting down the days until the 183 nerf!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/32b099b89c030800214e8e98d8ab0ca7/tenor.gif?itemid=4804767

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Why can't it come any sooner

lone warren Dec 29, 2018, 12:47 PM

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we have been waiting about 100 years for this dont ask that

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Now we need a universal view range nerf to heavies and a velocity nerf to the KV-2 and all will be right with the world.

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:49 PM

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No, meds and lights need a view range increase

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 12:49 PM

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No heavies need a Nerf. The maps are too small for how far they can currently see.

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Or they just lose coated optics. Reverting to the old pre 3.8 equipment system would solve a lot of the balance issues

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 12:50 PM

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The BC has 16 m more view range than an is7

lone warren Dec 29, 2018, 12:51 PM

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A slight nerf to view range on heavies would be quite good imo. Highlight the role of lights and meds more

graceful copper Dec 29, 2018, 1:14 PM

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hey dear deverloper please help

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this happens before am press battle
it say sync data and am back to garage
but my tank is in battle please help :l

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get a lot of report xd

empty ice Dec 29, 2018, 1:27 PM

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Either reinstall the game or get better WiFi, as you hav red pinh

drifting idol Dec 29, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Me black ping :-(

wispy tinsel Dec 29, 2018, 3:28 PM

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!Be careful with this bots they want your e-mail!

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 3:53 PM

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@unique scaffold no

worn sierra Dec 29, 2018, 4:05 PM

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you have ads? aw

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Back then i would make 100 gold a day watching ads... always got to 1.2k before i spent it all

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 4:10 PM

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@faint pewter why random ping >:C

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 4:15 PM

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There is no reason why provisions should be this expensive

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unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 4:17 PM

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If you don't like them, don't use them, simple as that. As for the cost, it's reasonable considering all the boosts they give to you

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I didn’t say otherwise
I said that good credit making ability could eventually compensate it

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 4:18 PM

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I can make more in a tier 3 tech tree than in any other tier 10

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Ofc you will never make money in a tier 10, what do you expect

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Also why are shells so expensive on tier 10 meds?! The standard 105mm shells of BC 25t or Leo 1 are more expensive than the standard 130mm shells of Obj263

faint pewter Dec 29, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Even with a premium you'll never make anything

snow escarp Dec 29, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Ur right

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I have Leo1 but it shells are expensive

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Even when I do a decent game I still lose 20k credits how annoying

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Premium tanks are there for grinding credits, not tier 10s

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I could at least get 1 cred...not bankrupt

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If you deserve credits you'll get them

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What are you talking about
Do 7k dmg?

dim field Dec 29, 2018, 4:28 PM

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I think that's part of the balance with tier X given you'll always be equal or high tier so it should be harder to make credits in.

lunar niche Dec 29, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Lmao someone is actually defending 183? Lol.

Lmao at Jageru replacing 183. Even if they give it 1050 alpha, it won't replace 183, ever.

unique scaffold Dec 29, 2018, 4:46 PM

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What are you even talking about

cunning compass Dec 29, 2018, 6:07 PM

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@manic dirge Haha

twilit crystal Dec 29, 2018, 6:16 PM

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yeah view range is way too cramped

drowsy plaza Dec 29, 2018, 10:14 PM

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@faint pewter You can make credits in X with premium time, if your a decent player in X. Without premium time it’s exceptionally hard - and you’re going to lose a lot of credits in X with your current level of play

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 10:16 PM

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Unless you're driving a Chieftain

drowsy plaza Dec 29, 2018, 10:33 PM

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With around 3k avg dmg you can even make credits in an M60

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I mean for the most part you can get credits with the Chieftain even without being half decent

winged barn Dec 29, 2018, 10:58 PM

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Look at that... credits earned

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I did not even have premium time...

worn sierra Dec 29, 2018, 11:13 PM

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I got 58 credits [or less] in the obj 140 whenever i get 3k+ damage - bad credit coefficient or what?

spark orchid Dec 29, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Use less prammo?

drowsy plaza Dec 29, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Chieftain Mk6 has a 140% Credit Coefficient, the Obj 140 has 75%...

jovial kernel Dec 29, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Yeah

lone warren Dec 30, 2018, 12:23 AM

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I mean i was constantly bleeding at tier ten before i got the chieftain. But thats cause i drive three fvs and if you take damage you’re not making credits

unique scaffold Dec 30, 2018, 1:22 AM

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Credit s only able to get with premium, corporations use pay to win for bottom line profits; most players are average or below; especially like me handicapped by ping- matchmaker makes it worse by not using ping as priority.

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 1:28 AM

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Anyone can get credits without premiums lol

iron lynx Dec 30, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Keep the BT7 artillery for credits
Around 13k even when your tank blows up halfway through

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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I made 40k once with my Pz. III/IV

indigo knot Dec 30, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Has anyone fought t22 med

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That tank is OP .....the dpm needs a nerf ....If it has got armour then the dpm shouldn't b this high

iron lynx Dec 30, 2018, 4:39 AM

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I have
But on their side

smoky yoke Dec 30, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Well it's not getting nerfed until 2 months after

winged barn Dec 30, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I didnt have problems with the one trying to fight my e100

indigo knot Dec 30, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Against meds its a problem coz you are gonna bounce it off and it is gonna eat you up with its dpm

atomic yoke Dec 30, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Can you make a non premium tank battles and a premium tank battles so non premium tank users can battle with out tanks like the gravedigger or the M60 and the 121B so it doesn’t add stress for users to get non premium tanks ???

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Most premium tanks are fine, it's mainly that the WZ-120-1 FT is broken and the T-22 medium is somewhat annoying to deal with at times. I don't feel any worse off in tech tree tanks unless I'm bottom tier against a WZ-120-1 FT.

atomic yoke Dec 30, 2018, 7:05 AM

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The gravedigger is way annoying in t7 to deal with and the other premiums that’s not from the tech like the t6 drac

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 7:15 AM

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The Dracula goes fast and has nothing else going for it, the Grave Digger is annoying but the armor on it has some rather weak weak spots. The Grave Digger just needs to be changed so it doesn't shake so much when it shoots.

wild wigeon Dec 30, 2018, 7:32 AM

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Man... these normies complainin about provisions and ammo being expensive dont what the deal realy iz

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 7:39 AM

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I mean I do gotta complain about the good HESH on the Centurion 7/1 and FV4202 costing a fortune though, it takes skill to use, and I love the tanks, but they bleed credits hard.

tender lagoon Dec 30, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Can anyone tell me what a ladder attachment is. It has started to appear in the storage

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 8:11 AM

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just use it

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free cosmetics

haughty harness Dec 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

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this is because of match making unfair why 2 kv2 evry time evry time wargaming WHY!!!!!??!?!?!??!

unique scaffold Dec 30, 2018, 11:42 AM

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hahahaahha russian bias confirm hahhaha

tiny cairn Dec 30, 2018, 12:29 PM

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i cant imagine the winrate

unique scaffold Dec 30, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Look at this rare amount of kills split evenly amongst my teammates and I

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worn sierra Dec 30, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Soviet Anthem plays KILLS FOR ALL

lone warren Dec 30, 2018, 3:41 PM

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nice meme lose four in a row and whining about mm

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@tender lagoon its an attachment you can put on the tank specified. Its literally a ladder on the side of the tank

late tiger Dec 30, 2018, 4:01 PM

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@unique scaffold I have done that myself ... but only once

severe valve Dec 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Buff centurion 7/1. WG played with the guns and they ended up going back to sqaure one. This time increase top speed to 45kph from 40kph

lone warren Dec 30, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Im not sure about the 7/1. Maybe you’re right but i found it to be much more competitive than the depressing cent I

coarse harness Dec 30, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Much better than the Cent 1

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 8:31 PM

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The 7/1 is good but it's kinda depressing knowing that there are heavy tanks that can out speed it.

crimson cosmos Dec 30, 2018, 10:27 PM

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At least it has viable alpha. It’s the poor Caernarvon that deserves our pity. Every other Tier VIII Heavy has the option of a “real” gun. Not the sad, fat Brit. 😢

dim field Dec 30, 2018, 10:37 PM

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Give T28 (tier 8 td) a stronger engine. It's current top engine is tier 6

drowsy rivet Dec 30, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Give Jagaroo more damage with AP rounds

drowsy plaza Dec 30, 2018, 11:00 PM

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@crimson cosmos Caern is a perma track DPM monster though.

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Caern’s biggest issue is a Löwe is faster than it...

empty wharf Dec 30, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Vk100. 01P cupola Nerf? From 200 to 180 mm pls?
It is a bit overtuned

jovial kernel Dec 30, 2018, 11:54 PM

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208 to 200 is enough

empty wharf Dec 30, 2018, 11:55 PM

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For tier 8? It is stronger than most tanks have effective on the hull

smoky yoke Dec 30, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Why was my message removed xD

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 12:00 AM

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@smoky yoke. If you curse the message is gone.

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:00 AM

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No curse I just said the tank would be use / less if it was nerfed in armor.

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Tortoise cupola has 175mm of armor on tier 9
Vk 100.1P has 200 mm, you need to hit it flush with tanks that have poor accuracy on tier 8
And it can meat up tier 7 tanks

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Something you said caught the filter 🤷‍♂️

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Compare the cupola on the tier 8 Chieftain to the tier 8 vk.... One of these thing isn't like the other.

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:03 AM

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Well I really don't curse much , I don't use profanity much unless the shortened form or another way of saying a curse word like fudge instead of f word xD , But tortoise has the dpm and everyone can pen it's frontal armor easily

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Tortoise is not meant to be spotted too , since it is a td, VK100 is slowest tank I have played at tier 8 , it's even worse than lowe

twilit crystal Dec 31, 2018, 12:05 AM

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its op

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Sure, but it has to good armor against Tier 7 tanks
The Vk100. 01p is like a tier 8.5 tank,

A punchy gun with 460 alpha
Armor that is incredible
Mobility sucks

but overall it is too Good for his tier.

It has no counterparts!

twilit crystal Dec 31, 2018, 12:07 AM

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mobility is actually decent. 50degrees combined traverse and 15 kmh reverse

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Maus is considered a what now? Maus and VK100 both weaknesses are premium ammo use it

twilit crystal Dec 31, 2018, 12:08 AM

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wtf are you supposed do in a kv3 against a vk 100p

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Underplate, my T-32-1 and Rudy can pen it.

empty ice Dec 31, 2018, 12:09 AM

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They will probably add the VK 168.01 Mauerbrecher soon

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@twilit crystal aim or pray that the tier 8 heavy tank on your team out plays the vk

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:11 AM

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You can play against every tank in this Tier without using premium ammo, even if they are hulldown or something else, but Vk you need to do it,
Even if you are loading premium you need to. Aim and pray if it hits
Cupola 208 mm base armor, effective 223mm
All russian 122mm guns with 175 mm ap and 217mm APCR have 0 chance

twilit crystal Dec 31, 2018, 12:11 AM

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ik how to outplay a vk. The problem is the average pubby gets rekt by it can't aim. Its really op in pubs

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:12 AM

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@empty ice you should have a little bit of drawback tier by tier but not a step up in a new dimension

empty ice Dec 31, 2018, 12:13 AM

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It's not that big of a step, at low tiers there are still difficult to pen tanks, Matilda, gravedigger, m6a2e1, pz2j

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Obviously not to the same level, but they have armour and are difficult to compete against. They are slow with decent guns

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Chouge Chouge WG OP Premium Tanks?!? Sure, the normal techtree ones are somehow balanced

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Well if you decrease the armor of vk100 , you just gonna see it becoming fast which I might like since it's hilariously slow, my team is either half way dead to dying before I reach

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:16 AM

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It should be equal tier by tier, when I am bottom tier I want to have a chance to win, and don't want to pray and hope that someone kills him

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:20 AM

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T32 hull down, can any tank pen it, tier for tier?

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:21 AM

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I only want a cupola Nerf, just a weakspot not a massive chance.

This tanks stays in front of you without wiggle and jiggle like the Maus in tier 10,
Maus has weak cheaks, and they are massive, you can penetrate them with standart Ap,
Vk doesn't, have a weakspot on the turret!
Event the Jagdpanzer E100 has a weak cupolar, small but you can penetrate it

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Am you have a chance with angling with a maus , the trick with the vk is to not angle turret, if you angle then your turret becomes pennable on the sides.

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:22 AM

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T32 has one of the worst gun handlings, a really bad ROF and with 310 alpha it don't remove up to 50% of your hitpoints

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:23 AM

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VK100 at most does 450 dmg per shot ,not half

hidden scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 12:23 AM

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You can pen vk cupola if you aim correctly

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:24 AM

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It rarely ever goes above 500 alpha dmg

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:24 AM

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You will need a angle like 60° to get a chance to penetrate his turret

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Avg dmg is 460 alpha, max role 575 dmg, sooo how much HP has a TD? 1100 in tier 8, heavy tank in tier 7 1300 HP
Think about it
Sure some TDs make up to 640 alpha but they don't have the armor as backup

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:27 AM

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they have the camo to back it up, td's are meant to be hidden, and they usually are.

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Yes, right but Vk has armor, Vk has a big gun, Vk is like a wall that's slowly kills you

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:29 AM

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I understand that tank fully. Many 50% now know just to side hug me and move back and forth

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VK has a long reload too , so every med pushes when you shot

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Am normal;y the last player standing with a lone td in the back xD

lament vessel Dec 31, 2018, 12:32 AM

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VK is totally broken. Too op.

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Close to the same win-rate, dpm

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Vk austin A was like 12 months ago, and I only recently got lowe and vk100

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:35 AM

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You mean this tank is "Balanced", the Tiger 2 as a comparison, you get a ace for 3 k dmg, even with 2.5k dmg why? Everybody penetrate it, and if they don't do it, load premium and penetrate upperplate or turret or something else!

Vk you can't do anything, if you are slow and can't push him or flank, you will die

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58.16 % survival rate! Dude this ist too much,
And also the Löwe shouldn't be a comparison, it is stronger then the Tiger 2

Previous WG said Premiums should never be better than tech tree tanks... What a LIE

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Actually I suck in heavy tanks. Out of all the tank's I played heavy tanks have the worse stats compared to TD's. I prefer meds and lights and with those tanks I do fine against vk100p 's but that's just me

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:39 AM

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New Vk’s are OP.

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You say that you suck in heavy tanks, but yet have a high WR in the new VK tank. That has to tell you something there...

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:40 AM

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@red condor thank you

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Suck means I can't push pass 70%

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:42 AM

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...

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Suck means a 50% and lower JEESSS

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:43 AM

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All my heavy tanks are below 65% except cheiftain with 69% , and 69% is my average for meds

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:43 AM

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None of the tanks I actually use have a 70%....

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Well anything I say means nothing since wargaming gonna nerf it, if too many players between 55% to 65% do good in it.

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:47 AM

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There going to nerf it because it needs a nerf...

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Well no they look at stats, if stats say it's doing average they do nothing

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Idk, I feel the game was better in 2014. Only 4 countries of tech tree to pick from and not so many premium tanks. Games were actually balanced back then and people were actually respectful to other players. They also had more heart into the game.

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Tiger II isn't a superheavy though. Why would anyone compare it to the Vk100?

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Even there was Team damage on! No team kills no insults

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Yea, I got a 6 month ban from shooting teammates. They would shoot me and then I would kill them..

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Superheavey KV4... Not a comparison.. Whitch tank should we pick to compare?

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:52 AM

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It was much harder with +2 and -2

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Rip my old account.

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Harder but it was still possible, with your AP penetration!

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Sidescrape in KV 4

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Turret cheeks, 180mm penetration, coupular 180mm effective
Upperplate 180mm
Lowerplate 160mm
Sure a comparison

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Everything is a penetration with AP!

If you want to use premium it is much easier

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 12:58 AM

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I don't remember it being that easy at all. Some tanks you could not pen if I remember. I quit this game 4 different times and only started back playing in 2017

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 12:59 AM

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This is why i said sidescrape until WG buffs it

empty wharf Dec 31, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Mhmm well it sucks, WG should do some big balance changes!

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Faster reload , with a good enough alpha will always do better in blitz

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:12 AM

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I feel like lights and meds, but more so lights are losing their place in the metta. It started with the "Great Medium Tank Nerf" of (I think) 2016. Which to be fair was needed. But they arguably unnecessarily nerfed lights along with meds. On top if that, they've gone through and buffed the traverse speeds many heavies on multiple occasions. When they really didn't need the buff. Then 3.8 came bringing the 9-Slot equipment system and with it "Improved Control" which gives all tanks a 10% traverse buff which combined with using both variants of fuel provisions can give heavies roughly medium tank hull and turret traverse speeds with the only real exceptions being "Super Heavy Class tanks" like the Maus, E100, VK100.01P, IS4 ECT . Effectively negating the COD strategy. You usted to be able to easily circle lone heavies that went out into the open with no solid cover and take at most one shot in return. But now if you try the same tactics unless you track the heavy first, you'll be able to race around the hull but not out race the gun. You can hardly do drive-by's with out getting shot on the way out. Just look at a tournament team its almost always 5 heavies and two other auxiliary tanks biased in what the map needs.

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And while a seemingly simple way to "get around" this issue would be to track the target and keep moving, heavy tank tracks rarely break after reviving a single shot from light tank caliber guns. You've gotta waste multiple shots and thus DPM on tracking all the while, their gun is swinging your way. And when You do break the track, most players pack two repair kit variants. So as a light trying to lock down a heavy, you have to Tripple track the vehicle to actually imobolize it. So one of your main tools to taking out heavies as a lighter more maneuverable tank simply isn't viable any more. I understand meds needing the nerf after the T62A OBJ.140 debacle but as time progressed some of my favorite tanks have become significantly gimped. Am I the only one who's noticed this trend?

red condor Dec 31, 2018, 1:22 AM

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@ivory flint Unfortunately I feel that WG won’t care and will continue to make other tanks horrible and others way OP.

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 1:24 AM

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Only tanks that are capable of staying op are premium ,like what you were saying about vk 100p , they may nerf armor and dispersion / aim-time all together.

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Course they are what fund the game

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 1:25 AM

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If they do nerf Vk, its gonna be traverse. Cupola is already nerfed from 220 and HP too is nerfed to balance.

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:28 AM

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But that still leaves a majority of heavies un-track-able and un-circle-able (yes I'm making up words lol) leaving lights like the Batchatillion 25T with out options for solo killing heavies. Considering that the Batchat's gun it quite literally worst in tier every thing when compared to other medium tank guns and autoloading guns what are you supposted to do if you can't out maneuver whatever your Fighting?

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 1:28 AM

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Honestly just Nerf the hatch on it from 208 to 200

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 1:29 AM

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They probably will seeing as how everyone is crying about it.

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:30 AM

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Might I add that nearly every new techtree has been heavy or TD lately. I'd like so see some more mobility come to blits it keeps the game from becoming a camp fest like tier X currently is.

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 1:33 AM

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208mm is normally fine but it gets annoying with the armor buff stacked on top. With 200mm the armor buff would bring it to the current pre equipment 208

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:34 AM

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I think the armor equipment should add weight to the tank: further slowing it down.

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 1:36 AM

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I don't think WG are gonna bring other light tanks in tier X very soon. All medium lines are already here except for USSR's Obj 430U.

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 1:36 AM

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It's supposed to be a buff of armor quality and not quantity supposedly

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:37 AM

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They're not. I already asked them. But it makes sense like your tanks armor becimes more effective regardless of weight so it's only fair that you slow down a bit

lunar niche Dec 31, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Logic does not apply on WOT/Blitz

ivory flint Dec 31, 2018, 1:38 AM

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Cuz against low pen tanks its op. Nearly forcing you to spam gold lowering your DPM which is one of your only quantifiable advantages against the big bois

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 1:52 AM

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I mean it's almost like the VK 100.01 (P) has worst in class hit points for that exact reason

tribal osprey Dec 31, 2018, 2:31 AM

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I think the kpfpz 70 should have a speed increase because it can go about 69 kph in real life.

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Just make it go 40 yeah

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Everyone is saying they can't pen vk100.1p in tier 7 meds and why should they even pen it frontly.....flank it or ignore it ....same way t54 cant pen maus frontly .....and talk about OP vk 100 is so slow that you can ignore it most of the times especially in supermacy and can tank it out easily if you aim properly and talk about OP tanks T54 is an OP tank at tier 9 you can't pen it in tier 8 meds , it has mobility one of the highest dpm at tier 9 meds no one says its op and everyone keeps saying vk is op .....it is a heavy tank that is supposed to have good armour unlike t54

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 5:52 AM

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without the armor it would be trash though the armor is what makes it competetive

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 5:53 AM

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I don't want a decent tank in which you can hold a little against op tanks currently at tier 8 to be ruined just like kv4 ( that is trash)

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 5:53 AM

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armour*

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 5:56 AM

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Did you just claim the T-54 was OP mate

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 5:57 AM

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If it is at tier 8 then yaah

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 5:57 AM

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it really isnt if you find its weakness

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 5:57 AM

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T-54's weakness is ground that's not perfectly flat

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 5:58 AM

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well yeah every tank that is below the tier above it is going to have atleast a little trouble taking down a higher tier tank

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 5:58 AM

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It is like a heavy at tier 8 and compare it m46 patton and pta

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 5:58 AM

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M46 has better gun handling, dpm, alpha, and gun depression though

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 5:59 AM

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and plus t54 is russian

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anyways i gtg

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:00 AM

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Just by margin M46 has dpm but no armour not that good mobility which you can use and no armour .....no bullying tier 8 ....it has better armour than its tier 10 brothers

teal quarry Dec 31, 2018, 6:00 AM

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its 12 am

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:01 AM

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12pm here

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:02 AM

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The M46 doesn't have armor or mobility because giving it that on top of the great gun would be broken overpowered. The T-54 doesn't have good alpha damage, gun depression, or dpm, or penetration because that would be overpowered. None of the tier 9 mediums are overpowered at all really

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It's the same reason the Centurion 7/1 doesn't have good dpm, and the T-55A has bad hull armor

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:11 AM

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Everyone was say vk100.1p is op at toptiered games ....then what about t54 thats all I am saying and gun of t54 is decent I don't have the tank but I have played it on friends account ....it is mod 1( upgraded ) at top tiered games with more dpm , pen , accuracy and mobility....and m46 sucks compared to it coz the pen sucks in it and if you bounce once even then dpm of t54 is more so i will consider t54 to be OP top tiered like everyone says Vk100 is op (which has worst mobility) and is super heavy (tier for tier maus) so why does it needs nerf and why not t54 which has got glorious 300 heat if use calibrated shell

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:12 AM

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the M46 penetration is also higher than the T-54's lmao

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:17 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20181231-114722.png

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 6:19 AM

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You can’t compare what are vastly different mediums in terms of playstyle

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:19 AM

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The T-54 got nerfed hard for a reason. It's in line with other mediums balance wise anyways

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 6:20 AM

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E50 is still the best to me

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Loved that thing

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:20 AM

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E 50 is pretty good yeah, I prefer the Centurion 7/1 though

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Tier 9 in general is really good. I think it’s the most balanced tier in blitz

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Yaa but still everyone says Vk100 is op but isn't it super heavy and against tier 8 premium tanks only this is the thing which you can take (for someone who is free to play not me though)

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:22 AM

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I think it's fine lol

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 6:22 AM

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I love the vk because it breaks the is meta

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First time ever

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Yeah it means the IS-3 and IS-5 can no longer do everything

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Tier 9 su12254 is currently insane i kind of thing the tank to be broken with mobility and camo it has

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Eh. Paper armor and still a bit awkward to use

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Have to second line farm

indigo knot Dec 31, 2018, 6:24 AM

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It is like e25 or jpz4 at this tier

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What are your thoughts on the newly introduced t22 med I have had problems playing against it

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 6:27 AM

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Gun penetration is abysmal for tier 10 and it's sluggish but the armor is a bit wonky to fight against

fringe summit Dec 31, 2018, 9:48 AM

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AMX ELC BIS is fair and balanced.

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junior hornet Dec 31, 2018, 10:16 AM

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How??

tawny sail Dec 31, 2018, 10:45 AM

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French, taking running away to a new heights. literally

ivory fractal Dec 31, 2018, 10:59 AM

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@junior hornet iirc it’s done in training rooms where you push the elc up against the train carriages

daring wolf Dec 31, 2018, 11:27 AM

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📎 IMG_20181231_122522.jpg

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G fini ma maquette de panther ! Camouflage front de l'est vous en pensez quoi ?

ivory fractal Dec 31, 2018, 11:29 AM

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@daring wolf English pls

daring wolf Dec 31, 2018, 11:30 AM

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I have finished my Panther model! Camouflage Eastern Front. What do you think?

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?

ivory fractal Dec 31, 2018, 11:34 AM

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@daring wolf very cool 😎 but it should go in #off-topic-discussion

daring wolf Dec 31, 2018, 11:35 AM

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OK, I'm new here so I don't know everything

humble olive Dec 31, 2018, 11:35 AM

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@unique scaffold defender is a premium tank, nerfing it is against WG policy (unless they make it collectible)

frigid sky Dec 31, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Amx 50 b needs a buff it’s like and obj268 with worse everything except slightly better mobility....

iron lynx Dec 31, 2018, 1:20 PM

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I believe you are actually comparing the AMX 50 B to the T57 Heavy

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Because the AMX 50 B has an autoloader advantage over the Objekt 268

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 1:47 PM

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50b has more gun depression and better gun handling

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 1:53 PM

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@humble olive. Stop saying that. There is no, zero, nada, Wargaming policy that says they can't nerf premiums. The have and have had the right to nerf premiums since the start of the game.

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It's all in the EULA. Just because they haven't doesn't mean they can't.

split moth Dec 31, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Can the locust get more shells in the tank? Because with the recent nerf to damage has made it even harder to play than before. With 30 damage on its Ap and the 50 shells you get you only have 1500 total damage if you pen all 50 which isn't enough to kill 3 full health Matilda's or even a team of tier 4s unless you get lucky with an ammo rack or fire, which with this peashooter you'll be very lucky to get

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 1:57 PM

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It's a team game. A locust shouldn't be killing 3 full health Matilda's. It should be playing it's role as a light tank and spotting the Matilda's for the teams big guns to engage.

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Secondly. If you are good enough to take on 3 Matilda's in a locust you are good enough to move into higher tiers.

split moth Dec 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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I felt like playing a tank I've paid money for, and ended up in a tier 4 match where I fired all 50 shells and we still couldn't win because of the low ammo/damage this tank gets

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Still the shells are small enough that it should have more

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That’s rather surprising

median gust Dec 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Hi raik

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Hi

late tiger Dec 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Hi

median gust Dec 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Is pramo doing trainings with XWING? the clan

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@quick lichen Is the PRAMO discord server open to all? or only members of the clan? I've heard some have gotten news from the server.

quick lichen Dec 31, 2018, 2:14 PM

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It’s plenty open and we are training them

smoky yoke Dec 31, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Well they haven't nerfed any premium tank in World of Tanks pc since the start, at most they did was HD armor remodeling but other than that I can't find much on premium nerfing other than mm preferential match making nerf.

gritty wyvern Dec 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

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@humble olive if they want to nerf a premium, they make it a collectible and then nerf it.

lament vessel Dec 31, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Kpf70 needs a buff.

proven helm Dec 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Mobility and turret traverse. I think the alpha and gun handeling is ok as it is

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Because a tier 9 heavy with a 152mm having less alpha than a tier VI heavy with a 152mm makes perfect sense 🤦‍♂️

narrow sandal Dec 31, 2018, 6:37 PM

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xD

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Please give the t1 heavy more side armor.

crisp lynx Dec 31, 2018, 8:50 PM

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make gravedigger less shells or less damage

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 8:55 PM

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No

winged barn Dec 31, 2018, 9:04 PM

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I call the kpz70 balanced. I mean, I wouldn't mind it being buffed into the op range.

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Give the Grave Digger less recoil so it doesn't shake when it shoots so we can actually hit the weak spots

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Hitting a Grave Digger's hatch or lower plate when it's unloading the magazine is almost impossible

elfin marlin Dec 31, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Train your crew skills up to lvl7 cause I have no problem of destroying the gravedigger

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Just learn to play and deal with what’s coming up your gun. In WW2 the allies didn’t asked the Germans if they would be so kind to nerve their tiger tanks...

lone warren Dec 31, 2018, 9:35 PM

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what

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Yeah they just brought more than enough Shermans to kill the Tigers. I'm just saying the armor is a bit too strong in the tier since it's near impossible to hot the weak spots when it's shooting.

elfin marlin Dec 31, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Use prammo....

lone warren Dec 31, 2018, 9:39 PM

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You are completely missing his point

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 9:40 PM

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That literally doesn't work. I'm not even asking for the armor to be weaker. I just want the armor to move around less since the tank shakes by unrealistic amounts when the gun fires, which in turn makes the weak spots almost impossible to hit when the Grave Digger is firing.

elfin marlin Dec 31, 2018, 9:40 PM

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No just saying gravedigger isn’t OP

lone warren Dec 31, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Against tier 8s it isnt

jovial kernel Dec 31, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Just make the tank not shake when it's shooting the gun and the tank will be almost perfectly balanced imo

elfin marlin Dec 31, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Not every tank had a soft recoil. Deal with it. We play war games and it should be as close as it gets to real tanks

dim field Dec 31, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Gravedigger isn't even a real tank, and what Commander is asking for isn't unreasonable.

elfin marlin Dec 31, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Just saying it comes as it gets. And I know it is a sci-fi tank. My personal opinion about that is that it should have its own queue with dracula and such

deft owl Dec 31, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Lol just make a fantasy tank only matchmaking and everything will be fine.

dim field Dec 31, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Eh, nah.
Feeling of smashing a fantasy tank with a real tank is too fun.
Crushing the hopes of their fantasy

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~~carry harder~~

unique scaffold Dec 31, 2018, 10:31 PM

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It’s count ins bud

mystic siren Dec 31, 2018, 10:37 PM

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no wonder you lost

vast ermine Dec 31, 2018, 11:08 PM

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So I’m from Australia and the real issue here as far as balance isn’t tank related it’s ping. I’ve been playing for the last 3 months at 220 as my standard ping. The best ping I have ever had in 3 years of playing this game is 120. How are we supposed to complete on an even playing field with guys who have 40 and 50 ping?
Does WG have a plan to proved us in Australia and New Zealand with competitive ping?