#tank-balance-discussion | WoT Blitz Official | Page 106

rain ivy Dec 16, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Still, I like it regardless, just my opinion. 🙂

ruby kite Dec 16, 2018, 5:24 AM

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When does the m4a1 ravioli is back on sale?

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Auction maybe

ruby kite Dec 16, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Will it be a good credit grinder like on pc?

quick lichen Dec 16, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Thanks man

real flicker Dec 16, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Can the pen on panther m10 increase abit? Just a suggestion

modern fern Dec 16, 2018, 10:54 AM

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more than enough
its just bad compared to tech tree panther

deft owl Dec 16, 2018, 11:34 AM

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@ruby kite Ravoli strugling a bit in the current heavy meta in tier 8.

atomic hound Dec 16, 2018, 12:48 PM

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You mean the revalorisé? 😂 @deft owl @ruby kite

thin kraken Dec 16, 2018, 12:49 PM

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WG plz buff the KpfPz 70, that sh*t is weak as f**k

deft owl Dec 16, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Yeah i mean revalorise.

harsh snow Dec 16, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Ravioli*

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 12:55 PM

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It is French not Italian lol

harsh snow Dec 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Raviloli then

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

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O.o

harsh snow Dec 16, 2018, 12:56 PM

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😉

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 12:58 PM

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I said French not Japanese

granite flicker Dec 16, 2018, 2:16 PM

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268 or 72.01K?

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I heard 72.01 K was meh
But I never played it or faced it so I can’t really know

granite flicker Dec 16, 2018, 2:19 PM

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oh

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I know that 268 is good but you’ll need a true opinion for 72 (other than mine)

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@thin kraken stop swearing because of your lack of abilities to play a tank

bronze zealot Dec 16, 2018, 2:27 PM

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I mean like I can't play it the way I want to because it's spotted way to easy

shy wren Dec 16, 2018, 2:28 PM

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268 is quite a good TD for starters. Good gun stats, decent troll armor and good mobility and camo. The line is easier to grind and features relatively easy tanks to play.

bronze zealot Dec 16, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Yeah but it's 350k xp

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I am going for fv 202

shy wren Dec 16, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Good luck then. Crommy’s a joyride, Comet is a DPM monster with insane gun depression, Cent. 1 is nothing remarkable (Caenarvon is a better Cent. 1) and the Cent 7/1 and FV 4202 have those tasty HESH rounds.

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 3:31 PM

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@bronze zealot. Crom, Comet, and 7/1 are the high points of the line. Cent grind will make you question life and tier for tier the 4202 doesn't seem as capable as the 7/1.

bronze zealot Dec 16, 2018, 3:32 PM

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@unique scaffold fv 4202 lose the turret amor but get higher top speed

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 3:34 PM

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And a better reload. It would be worth it if everyone and their mom weren't driving high alpha TD's in tier X but they are so...

stone carbon Dec 16, 2018, 3:50 PM

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The Cent 1 is like a Comet but bigger and slower

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I like the cent 1 but everyone thinks it sucks

slender briar Dec 16, 2018, 4:03 PM

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It’s like a caern, but worse.

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Whatever

noble chasm Dec 16, 2018, 4:15 PM

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balanced matchmaking 👏

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ocean knoll Dec 16, 2018, 4:35 PM

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@noble chasm so balanced eh

quick lichen Dec 16, 2018, 4:36 PM

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@noble chasm read pinned messages 🙃

neat surge Dec 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Hay how to put colour on tanks

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Buy a camouflage 😂

neat surge Dec 16, 2018, 5:41 PM

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Where bro

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Appearance

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Сьященное логово what does this mean

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google translate...

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Where do we go to discuss balance? I thought this was the place until I started reading the posts. 🙄

reef dune Dec 16, 2018, 10:10 PM

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there is no balance, why is this room here ?

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 10:11 PM

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And why are you here

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 11:11 PM

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@reef dune generally speaking the game is actually fairly well balanced. There are exceptions but for a free to play game it really is balanced pretty well. I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

deft owl Dec 16, 2018, 11:38 PM

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World of tanks suppose to be a not a p2w game. Other mmo craps suppose to be p2w. Its not a true comparision but i agree with you. At least its better.

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 11:39 PM

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The game definitely isn't pay to win. There are players with 40% win-rates and garages full of premium tanks who prove that every day.

slender briar Dec 16, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Prem tanks are often better though

deft owl Dec 16, 2018, 11:45 PM

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And my friend stats says otherwise.

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unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 11:50 PM

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If he is doing good in those tanks he'd be doing good in tech tree tanks.

deft owl Dec 16, 2018, 11:50 PM

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I was pointing to wz-120-1g ft. Forget others.

unique scaffold Dec 16, 2018, 11:55 PM

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I didn't say balance was perfect 😆

oak cargo Dec 17, 2018, 2:47 AM

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Lol

winged barn Dec 17, 2018, 3:09 AM

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The fv4202 is the closest tank to pay to win in this game. The more hesh you shoot, the more credits you spend, and the more damage you do.

uncut osprey Dec 17, 2018, 3:24 AM

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its not p2w if your using credits which can be obtained freely in the game, plus there is penetration nerf to those shells that make the damage possible

winged barn Dec 17, 2018, 3:28 AM

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The more you spend(credits) the more you win(hesh)

modern fern Dec 17, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Still not p2w

uncut osprey Dec 17, 2018, 3:38 AM

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^^

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 3:40 AM

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To be fair, they said "closest tank to pay to win" They did not say it was p2w

winged barn Dec 17, 2018, 4:05 AM

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Lolz

umbral hound Dec 17, 2018, 5:35 AM

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@unique scaffold I don't think pay to win actually means you automatically win. I think it just means someone gets a big or significant advantage from paying. I haven't been playing long enough to say this is P2W. There does seem to be some reasonably big advantages from paying though.

willow elk Dec 17, 2018, 5:42 AM

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There are a couple premium tanks that are blatantly better than tech tree tanks.

wooden gazelle Dec 17, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Take the AMX M4 49 or Lowe vs. the Tiger 2 for example.

hard veldt Dec 17, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Hai everyone just joint.....as for premium tanks if no OP people just dont buy it and people that bought gonna rant and ask for their money back.. remember pre-buff panther/M10 anyone..

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:22 AM

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wdym pre buff there was no buff 😂

quick tide Dec 17, 2018, 8:51 AM

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What do you think is good avarage dmg for tier X tanks

dapper shadow Dec 17, 2018, 8:54 AM

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The global average is 1758, so maybe anything above it?

iron hearth Dec 17, 2018, 8:54 AM

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Doing more damage than your hp is good start depends on the tank for example the maus usually doesnt do a lot of damage but shoots you recieve and bounce wastes enemy team time

lapis shadow Dec 17, 2018, 10:19 AM

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I would agree with Spock when your few hours later from a message

quick tide Dec 17, 2018, 10:43 AM

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Kk my avarage is 2500 on heavyes and 3k on td’s

modern fern Dec 17, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Wtf you should be getting at least 10k avg dmg

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:o

icy plover Dec 17, 2018, 12:08 PM

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@unique scaffold With events and free crates over the last few years it is very common for players to own 10+ premium vehicles for free. Balance is broken in rated battles, but this belongs in the other thread.

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Far too often two of the highest rated players, or 2 or 3 from the same clan are placed on 1 team or 3 in calibration are on 1 team only. The team cumulative rated score is meaningless. Battles should be with players of the same league just as every other professional sport. WG should incentivise rated battles more to reduce queue wait times.

indigo knot Dec 17, 2018, 2:18 PM

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183 getting nerfed in open test is the best thing i heard

quick lichen Dec 17, 2018, 2:59 PM

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Where is that being posted?

willow junco Dec 17, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Fake

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 3:07 PM

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183 needs to be reworked not nerfed - it’s a lopsided tank that does a lot of damage - but most too late in the game to affect outcomes with most players.

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 3:08 PM

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yea if they nerf aimtime and dispersion its just gonna be worst TD cuz it wont be able to hit anything

willow junco Dec 17, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Accuracy is still bad

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Most too late to affect outcomes?thats completely incorrect.Decent 183s would always go for an early nuke that could be detrimental for the enemy team.it doesnt need to be reworked,it needs to be removed.

twilit crystal Dec 17, 2018, 3:23 PM

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i said dont nerf the mobility

queen hemlock Dec 17, 2018, 3:23 PM

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@quick lichen The Blitz Post

slender briar Dec 17, 2018, 3:24 PM

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Nerf dispersion to .4, nerf prammo alpha to 1100, and swap camo values with the grille.

twilit crystal Dec 17, 2018, 3:24 PM

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IMo moderately nerf stabilzation to prevent bs snapshots, nerf camo, slightly buff mobility infact, and completely ruin its final accuracy. If it wants to use hesh you have to get close basically

sharp wind Dec 17, 2018, 3:34 PM

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183 already has terrible camo

willow junco Dec 17, 2018, 3:56 PM

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1100 ? , those 640dmg (150mm-155mm) guns deal 1000dmg with HE .

quick lichen Dec 17, 2018, 3:57 PM

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960*

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How about nerfing hesh pen

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242 is the same as tier x meds

exotic pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:00 PM

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183 still got better camo than a Grille 15

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:05 PM

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How about tripling the cost of the HESH round?

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:07 PM

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How about removing it?

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:08 PM

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how about learning to play and to counter it?

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:09 PM

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Wow great idea my friend,i never thought of that!thank you for ur advice ill be sure to keep that in mind

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:10 PM

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I've said this before but there are just too darn many TD's being played in high tier matches. Seeing 6+ TD's in a match gets old. Anything that pushes players towards playing something other than a TD is a win as far as I am concerned.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Because thats totally helpful in any case.

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@unique scaffold at the same time,there is a reason why so many play it.

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Because dropping massive alpha without leaving spawn is easy and requires minimal thought? @sullen vault

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Yes,very good example is the 183.but this one guy, @spring pelican,had the most amazing idea that would totally help our cause.

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Would FV217 Badger fit Blitz? I would really like to see it in game
(And btw add turreted TDs of UK and move 183 at the end of this line)

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:14 PM

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@sullen vault I guss you are one rushing on 183 or staying in open and when get punished you rage

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Asking players to plan ahead and to play smartly is simply asking too much.

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:15 PM

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yes that is why players hate arty in wot, because they punish your mistakes

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Lmao,ive played the 183 and went against it,countering a very good player in a 183 is very hard,time conusing and punishing.al i have to do is poke,do 1.5k nd fall back in 2sec.

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Like I said earlier. Anything that motivates players to play something other than TD's is fine by me. There are too many of them in play.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@spring pelican their not really "mistakes",stop trying to act smart.Arty in wot embraces and promotes camping because the moment u poke or push u get punished by arty.so people just sit and do nothing making gameplay boring.

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K how about u do something on a stalemate heavy side looked down upon arty in pc.i wonder how amazing gameplay would be then 😄

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It clearly shows u never played pc if u think of something like that,like its honestly pathetic really.

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:20 PM

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K

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:21 PM

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IMO PC and Blitz are two very different games

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:21 PM

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No argument?bhinking i wonder why

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:22 PM

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This is not a popular opinion but I think Blitz is missing out by not having artillery. Let me be clear, I'm not talking about high alpha one shot arty. I'm talking about FV304 or M113 Mortar Carrier type artillery. Hear me out. If there was a cap of 1-2 arty per team it would motivate players to go move away from the big armor big alpha mentality of higher tiers. It would give lights and mediums a fresh appeal as artillery hunters. I think it would be great for the game. Unlike PC it would actually promote active gameplay due to the smaller maps.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yes but the same idea comes into play,anything with little risk isnt healthy in the balance department. @unique scaffold

mighty latch Dec 17, 2018, 4:24 PM

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how can i download test server??

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:25 PM

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cant argue with bots, sorry but if its so good why we dont see 183s in tours

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:26 PM

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You have a point here @sullen vault

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Lmao i play tourn and i do see them often,not always but many times.also comp and pub are very different meta.u clearly lack braincells from the looks of it aswell 😂 😄

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Ah the good ol "you disagree and I don't have a retort so you are a bot" response. 😆🖖

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:27 PM

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yup lol

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Also trying to state hes better than me lol

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:28 PM

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yup, well 263 is much better then 183 or foch but no one complains cuz players dont go for them but still no nerf to them

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:29 PM

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As a strictly pub player I can say that without a doubt the number of TD's (including the 183) in play creates a boring unfun match where players are afraid to advance due to the dear of having the tiniest mistake punished by a barrage of high alpha fire.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Lol ur not first of all,second 263 has many drawbacks and the same can be said to foch.i wonder why i barely saw 263 in tourn because according to u,the more featured it is in tourn,the better it is.

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:30 PM

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263 has low alpha, low health pool, and can get penned in the front literally avoiding armor by shooting next to the gun if it angles it too much. It has weak sides that balanced it

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:30 PM

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and you cant pen 183 frontaly, not only frontaly but anywhere?

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:31 PM

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I think a hard cap of two TD's per team no matter the player numbers would be a acceptable solution.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:32 PM

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The most retarded argument ive seen,hold up let me be like him.U cant pen a batchat anywhere?wait its used so much in tourn its prob better than is4

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Adding more light tanks to Blitz and making the maps a little bigger would make the spot role more important and maybe counter TDs

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Light tanks are often played like meds and their role negated by small maps, and the lowering number of it in high tiers

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I'd also make it so that heavies are unable to mount optics

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:34 PM

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yup you can cry as much, but then why e50M doesnt get nerf too it destroyes anything but you complain to 183 who is big, no armor, no speed, long reload and shots miss 70%

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:34 PM

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3.8 was far too beneficial to heavy tanks.

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E 50 M is totally not OP it has bad p/w ratio and low pen
This game has really not that much balance problems

exotic pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:35 PM

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what did 3.8 do again? I forgot

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:35 PM

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E50m not op looool

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:36 PM

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3.8 nerfed prammo most importantly
If E 50 M was that OP we would see more stat padders in it and more in tournaments too

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:36 PM

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are you blind and do you watch tours?

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Yes I am blind, I also can’t hear or speak and have no brain, arms and legs

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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good for you

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:37 PM

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But ur crying at the same time so thats just make u hyprocritical.
-183 isnt slow by any means.
Big but traded with very nice concealment.long reload is one of ur complains?maybe we should make it 12sec just for u.so it can trade 1.5k against 150mm because its unfair it has worse reload.any tank des tank have the attribute of missing alot,espiecally the foch which is known for gun being very unreliable.

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Foch with that armor and speed isnt for sniping

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:38 PM

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3.8 gave us the nine slot equipment set up. Now you can put Optics, improved armor, rammer, vert stab, and improved traverse on all at once. It was a ninja buff to slow heavily armored tanks while at the same time a ninja Nerf to high DPM mediums.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Am i talking about sniping?

spring pelican Dec 17, 2018, 4:39 PM

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yea cuz if it doesnt snipe and it is going with meds its not gonna snipe and wont miss shots

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:39 PM

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The fun fact about 3.8 is that everyone started shooting prammo after the nerf, and wasn’t shooting any before it
Exactly like everyone started playing T110E3 after the nerf

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Even not sniping,ur gun still be unreliable.look at the is4 and 113.

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Because dam me,i never knew this game turned into warthunder with no rng

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:45 PM

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@unique scaffold. A great example of a tank that was screwed by updates 3.6 and 3.8 is the T23e3. Prior to 3.6 you had full strength pramo, vents, and rammer. After 3.8 your pramo was nerfed, your rammer was nerfed, and you lost vents. To top it all off the IS spam you constantly get stuck playing against now has better armor, view range, and agility. Great job 3.8.

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I agree and I would add that it created a big gap between tier 7/8 and 9/10
But I still love my T23E3

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It's still a fun tank (Comet is better) but man it got nailed.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 4:47 PM

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I mean most tier 7 mediums got hit hard by 3.8, other than maybe the Panther

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 4:48 PM

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What about the unnecessary nerf that destroyed SP 1 C

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That's my point. 3.8 was a bad move and the game is still recovering from it.

Got to work now. Have a good one.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 4:49 PM

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you too spart

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Whats the point of removing optics from heavies? Meds/lights already have higher viewrange bonus and half the time they don't even go and spot. While 3.8 equipment changes did change things around it still does not change the fact that most med/light players don't spot and hang back.

Weren't meds the go to tanks before the nerf to meds? I keep hearing how the Obj 140/T-54 were the best tanks in the game before the nerf.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Heaviums are kinda doing literally all the work
Mediums have to stay back as they'll get blapped by TDs

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:17 PM

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And autoloading heavies.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 5:19 PM

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mainly TDs

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:21 PM

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2 tds max per team would probably fix that issue tbh. And the rework on 183.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 5:22 PM

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I hope that they at minimum remove prammo HESH from that thing

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:25 PM

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There should be a high alpha td to punish those yoloing heavies or meds. 183 does that but it has broken pen and camo. HESH is not a 100% reliable though.

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Jagero is limited in delivering its shot as it has no turret, limited gun arc and horrible camo. And that 800 alpha is a lie. I don't see anyone saying it has too much alpha.

183 needs the same treatment. Reduce the pen on hesh, camo and traverse. 242 hesh can pen a Maus cheeks if it highrolls.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Also I think some TDs with really good dpm that just shreds anyone who makes the mistake of standing in front of them would be cool, like the Badger

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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100% agreed on adding the Badger

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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I wouldn't mind the badger. It at least offers something different to usual high alpha tds alongside Obj 263.

trim imp Dec 17, 2018, 5:34 PM

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they should add in the version 4 to the tech tree

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:34 PM

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If they add V4 then i want Type 5 with 15 cm.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Yeah Badger makes much more sense that 183 and they show that tech tree aren't untouchable (Vk and Maus), they should add the Badger as the T10 of the Tortoise and remove the 183 from the game. If people cry a lot for not being able to camp in spawn then add the FV 4005, at least you can HE pen it with even T1 tanks (no joke literally 12mm armor in the HUGE turret)

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 5:35 PM

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If they add the v4 then WG has proved that they are well and truly on drugs

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Pretty sure they will add it at some point. If they rework the armour on V4, it might be alright.

next hedge Dec 17, 2018, 5:44 PM

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I just hope they add in the cent ax lol

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But hopefully they won't make the Jap Derps too op

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 5:45 PM

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All I am saying is, BUFF the Kmfpz 70. its has one of the lowest win rates and DPM i its tier. give a dog a bone.

next hedge Dec 17, 2018, 5:47 PM

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@plain isle imagine if they gave it the atgm like they were rumoured too ,that would make it pretty good

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 5:48 PM

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it would, but that would be to much. It realy needs a higher rate of fire or the Alpha that a gun like it should,

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 5:49 PM

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@plain isle Yeah you are right the DPM, I just forgot about that... No armor, no pen, worst DPM of the Tier and no guided missiles like the real one. It's an insult to the real one

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Its armor is the troll type. ones you figure it out, its ok, but with that reload they just need to take the hit then rush you, its all up to RNG if you live.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 5:52 PM

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It only have armor on the turret and even it have a lot of cupolas (3) and weak spots all around it. I mean, reload is too slow but the problem is that it does only 560 damage with a 152mm and the HE is awful: ONLY 640!!

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 5:55 PM

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I will say this, i can get ammo racks like candy. Ive had 2 and sometimes 3 in one game. but ammo racking a one shot red is just RNG trolling me.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 5:56 PM

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I once ammo racked a Leo Pta and a Ru in the same game but never more than 2

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:23 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429319150180106281/524289207938842644/Screenshot_20181217-130952_Discord.jpg

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Thats a good news

formal forge Dec 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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NOOO

stoic pebble Dec 17, 2018, 6:26 PM

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yeet

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:27 PM

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I hope this causes the 183 campers to rage quit so we can work on fixing the bad playerbase at tier X

formal forge Dec 17, 2018, 6:29 PM

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Pls no it has already shet accuraty and mobilty

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I payd 25 euros for fv so please no

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Campers will still camp in it, but with camo and accuracy nerf, they will be at a disadvantage. Especially the camo and mobility. Better camo and mobility than Grille lmao.

formal forge Dec 17, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Well what you expect form an almost no armor tank? Accuracy is already shet for far camping PLEASE NO

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:33 PM

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Your own fault for spending money on a tech tree tank

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:33 PM

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^^^

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:34 PM

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heavy boi is still salty about the anti maus tank

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Grille can be shot with HE from any angles and it has very bad camo and traverse. 183 cannot be shot with HE and it has better camo and traverse than Grille.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:34 PM

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and the stupid hesh

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:35 PM

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@jovial kernel they said they will not be nerfing its ammo choice

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Anti Maus? Try anti any tank willing to push forward

formal forge Dec 17, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Be happy isnt an fv183 who does one shot kill

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Every TD with CS is an anti Maus tank lol. The upper plate becomes butter as soon as you switch to skill ammo

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:35 PM

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I think you mean anti dynamic gameplay @hidden scaffold

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:36 PM

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haha one shot fv...

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lean wolf Dec 17, 2018, 6:36 PM

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@everyone

Quick poll, do you find the type 62 overpowered?

Answer 1️⃣ for yes and 2️⃣ for no

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:37 PM

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I can bounce any tank in the game as a skilled Maus player, 183 or otherwise. The problem is not every tier X has Maus levels of armor, and they cannot bounce a tank that is usually unspotted and removes 1/2 of their hit points on a low damage roll

lean wolf Dec 17, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Quite curious about this tank, it seems it isn’t a threat in the hands of a new player but when an experienced player takes control. It seems ridiculous. Average WR in it is 60.5%

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:38 PM

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If I was going to complain about an anti Maus tank I’d ask for an IS-4 heat nerf

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:38 PM

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the Type 62 is a high floor high cieling tank, an idiot will do badly, a good player will dominate

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:38 PM

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@hidden scaffold you are going to hate the chinese tds, they have MEGA heat

lean wolf Dec 17, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Exactly but the average wr shows something is wrong. No tank should be at 60% @jovial kernel

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:39 PM

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well the Type 62 is one tank that gets bought up by good players and left relatively untouched by bad players

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:39 PM

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@sterile drift After they nerfed Jagero's HEAT saying it was too much pen lol

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:39 PM

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I survived 2 years of 420 Jg Heat, I’m capable of dealing with tanks that are boxes with guns

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:40 PM

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@hidden scaffold don't forget 462 pen HEAT Jagero with CS

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Chinese TDs seem to be rather unique, it's like the E3 casemate tossed onto a 268 or something

stoic pebble Dec 17, 2018, 6:40 PM

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people are probably just gonna spam gold at them like they spam gold at the foch 155

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:40 PM

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its a wz 111 hull

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:41 PM

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gonna be a hull down powerhouse but slammed through the hull when in the open

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Honestly I’d argue the only tanks that should get CS are mediums and lights, but I figure that would be controversial

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:41 PM

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but muh heshpen

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:42 PM

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You’re lucky they aren’t nerfing that

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:43 PM

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no one likes CS more than FV4202 drivers I'm sure everyone can agree

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:43 PM

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nerfing the reload,gunhandling, and camo is just going to make it take longer for me to dunk on people. but the fact remains, I'm still going to dunk on people.

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 6:44 PM

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yeah the tank is still anti dynamic gameplay, you just pre aim the edge of a rock, then shoot the moment they poke

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Hopefully the camo nerf means you can’t do it invisible from spawn

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Depends on how much camo will be nerfed

hidden scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I’ve never said the 183s damage was OP, but the fact that it can sit invisible 400 meters away and remain invisible after firing is just ridiculous

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 6:45 PM

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the thing has better camo than some heavy tanks, despite being so large, I agree it needs a camo nerf

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 7:27 PM

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183 are almost always where you think they are. camping spawn or pushing with a heavy, or at the normal TD spot. They are pesky but that's about it. The game use to be dominated by mediums, running around DPMing things to death. it will eventually swing back that way. There camo is outrageous, that huge gun realistically would have drawn a lot of attention once fired. But then again this isn't a real to life game.

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break down of tier 10. i think the culprit is noobs play that tank to much

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jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Noobs play it because they can get good damage numbers without trying

plain isle Dec 17, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Well the game stat system favors high damage. I think tweaking the xp and credit co-coefficients to benefit support roles would go along way to balancing this game out.

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Its kind of stupid for a battle game, but having a way to heal your team mates would be nice. A lot of us enjoyed doing that in the mad games. Took me back to my World of Warcraft days playing a healing druid.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Healer are pure love <3
I played Bat Char, T57 and 263 like crazy healing everyone in sight during mad games. Good good times

sharp coral Dec 17, 2018, 7:52 PM

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@everyone

Quick Poll#2 the poll is:

Do you find the T-34-1 overpowered?👍 for yes 👎for no.

My opinion:Yes

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Having good tech tree tanks is good as they won't nerf any premiums. If someone wants to seal club in a tech tree tier 7 let them

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Kinda weird to say tier 7 is sealclubbing

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Tier 7 is a DPM Tier and also one with a lot of OP premium tanks. Like with a lot of tanks, most T7 have lots of DPM but the pen is bad in compensation. Sure they can struggle with AP against T8 heavy but they can eat alive other T7 or T6 (Su-122s, E25, Helsing or even T23)

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 8:48 PM

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@dim field Tier 7 is Seal Clubbing

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 8:49 PM

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How?

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Everything is relative.

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 8:54 PM

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It's literally past the halfway point in terms of tiers.

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It fight tier 6 and 8. While tier 6 is even past the half way point so it doesn't face any low tier tanks. Meanwhile Tier X will fight it's tier and lower.

sullen vault Dec 17, 2018, 8:56 PM

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you have to consider the fact that going through the line is pretty easy tier 1-5,you can do in one day,tier 6 is like a week and u have ur tier 7

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so basically ur still fighting very freshly new players at that tier.

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Most the players im matched with in tier 7 and 8 are not new players.

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So is tier 9 the only non seal clubbing tier?

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 9:01 PM

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In X you have the largest disparity of skills - super Unicums and failed to X bozos - despite being high tier everyone can pen you

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Guess I'm a seal clubber then. I don't enjoy tier X at all.

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 9:07 PM

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9 is significantly more easy than X

dim field Dec 17, 2018, 9:11 PM

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It's more of the environment. Most my games in tier X end up with toxic players. Plus there isn't much I gain from tier X. Not much to research for it, no tanks after it. So as someone who wants to eventually maybe get all the tanks, tier X itself doesn't offer much. A reward for grinding a line and a time to start a new line.

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 9:29 PM

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What tanks do you recommend, Helsing or Tankenstein?

lone warren Dec 17, 2018, 9:51 PM

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I havent actually played either of them, but from my experience a helsing is more annoying to fight against than a tankenstein

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 10:01 PM

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gaunt cosmos Dec 17, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Tier 3s and 4s need to be un nerfed

unique scaffold Dec 17, 2018, 10:12 PM

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No

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 10:13 PM

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Chrysler K is a big bad and should not be added

sterile drift Dec 17, 2018, 10:18 PM

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its fine, just shoot it in its frontal weak spots... oh wait

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Yeah amazing balance, as fast as an IS-3 with better frontal armor than the VK 100.01 (P). Brilliant.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Chrysler is more for sidescryping (sorry, don't know how to write it) the frontal armor is good for sure but using it like a Vk 45 B is god Tier sidescryper (sorry x2) sharing the gold medal with Maus and KV-220 T (because it's T5 with 100mm side armor)

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:32 PM

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You don't even need to sidescrape it has enough frontal armor to make tier 9s struggle and tier 10s get the occasional bounce. It's a superheavy that's as fast as your average IS-3 or IS-5.
Just face tank

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:35 PM

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Don't really know, only saw a video about it and from WoT Pc with the guy playing it sidescraping (hope I got it right this time) all the time and getting bounces from Tier X (±2 MM from Pc)

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:36 PM

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But in blitz you don't face tier 10. The frontal armor on this thing is too strong (better than VK 100.01 (P)), has no weak spots frontally, and is as mobile as the IS-3.

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 11:37 PM

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Lfp is 200mm+ effective lol

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:39 PM

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^^^

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Maybe they nerf it for Blitz, after all T8 prems on Pc are made for being able to deal with T10
It have a machine gun in the front so maybe weak spot but I dought it

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Those weren't real weak spots on PC and the probably won't be in blitz

drowsy plaza Dec 17, 2018, 11:48 PM

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It’s not in any open game files yet as far as I can see for Blitz

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Well still, WG seems desperate for money recently and has been cramming well known op wagons like the WZ-120-1 FT and the un nerfed T-22 medium into blitz, I don't see WG fixing the Chrysler's armor model.

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Yeah, you can hit the Super Pershing's machine gun port with HE from a 150mm gun (In Pc, don't eve try HEAT/HE on the front of a Super P in Blitz) that the only selling points are the armor and the gun depression but other tanks machine guns are not even modeled, does not seem legit

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:50 PM

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you can actually pen the MG port on the SP in blitz there is a hole in the spaced armor

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Only have the Rhm and T49 with enough HE pen in T8 and with that dispersion I rather aim at the cupola XD
#MakeGermanTanksGreatAgain

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Its from PC but will probably be changed when they bring it to blitz. If not then well haha

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jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Just aim for the frontal weak spots oh wait

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Hulldown monster. Even with APCR, the only weakspot while hulldown is the small area in cupola

jovial kernel Dec 17, 2018, 11:55 PM

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why even hull down lmao

frail folio Dec 17, 2018, 11:57 PM

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206mm is not that much tho
Don't know the upper plate but a lot of T8 Heavys can pen 206mm with AP
And if that's from Pc... Don't choose the Tiger II as the shooter pls... In Blitz is underpowered but in Pc is like the king of powercreep

fossil crag Dec 17, 2018, 11:59 PM

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It's actually 216mm effective armor at that angle, on PC. 😉

lunar niche Dec 17, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Tiger II in blitz has the same pen as in pc. I don't see any problem.

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VK 100 does not even hit 190 mm on its LFP without overangling.

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sterile drift Dec 18, 2018, 12:04 AM

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@frail folio look up fochgate and you'll understand why the Chrysler is joke

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Well... There is a tank called defender (Not IS-3 defender, just defender) that is literally the armor of a IS-7 in a Tier 8 dressed up like a IS-3. IS-3A that have much better armor than a regular IS-3 with a OP autoloader that reload faster each time you shoot. You get ±2MM so the poor Tiger II have to fight Maus (3k health), Type 5 (Like a Japanese Maus with a deep gun) and 2 kind of 183mm guns that can 1hit ko you with ease

lunar niche Dec 18, 2018, 12:13 AM

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I'm looking at it from Tiger II's perspective for the exact reason.

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Load Prammo

twin peak Dec 18, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Yes

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Rip mediums if the Chrysler driver knows how to angle

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 1:52 AM

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But meds can flank it and American rears are very very soft

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:01 AM

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No they can't flank it, or at least they won't be able to if it keeps the PC stats

modern fern Dec 18, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Or give it such a bad reputation that their teammates will try to block them to discourage them from playing it
Prob not gonna happen
Ehh

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Well it happens to artillery on PC, wouldn't shock me too much

idle shoal Dec 18, 2018, 2:09 AM

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A good whole grain balanced diet is good for u

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Ammo racks part of a fair and balanced breakfast

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 2:13 AM

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"Fun and engaging mechanics that equalise players skills"
WG words about detonation in WoWs
(literally you can do over 100k damage in a single detonation if you detonate the equivalent of the Maus)

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 2:17 AM

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Buff grille depression a tad and a bit better ground resistance, it's hideously inflexible

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Yeah, Grille is a downgrade of the WT instead of an upgrade

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:20 AM

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IDK some good players seem to like it

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Used to be capable, but its worthless in randoms and competitive

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Unless you get it out of the map

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Could use a big camo buff, otherwise eh

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 2:23 AM

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It's essentially a less useful 268

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 2:25 AM

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Yeah it have a bit bitter cammo than Jag E100 but Jag is a heavy in cammo so...
Cammo value depends on height when it should depend on volume

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 2:26 AM

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It's a lot easier to find a 10 meter cubed tinfoil box than a cubic foot block of lead

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 2:27 AM

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It depends on height and tank class, is3 would have much better camo if it was only height

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 2:27 AM

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I mean, 268 or 263 are much much fatter than Grille yet they have epic camo compared with Grille

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E25 series tanks were meds, E10 were the TDs. Only blueprints but they were meds and recon vehicles
Thanks WG for the mistake and let E25 have TD cammo

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 4:50 AM

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The Jagtiger 8.8 doesn’t make jack for credits and I’m not even using prem ammo half the time and it’s a premium tank.. What’s the catch?

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 4:51 AM

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idk I still like my IS-6 though

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Not one APCR round used and this is the majority of the games

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forest tundra Dec 18, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Worst winrate among tier 10 with a not significant dpg, yet WG still wanna nerf 183, russian-biased balance department

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jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:05 AM

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worst winrate and highest damage per game, says something about the people playing it

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It's not WG that wants to nerf the 183, but the playerbase has told them to and they're finally listening

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 5:06 AM

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It’s the fact that you can literally take the large majority of someone’s hp by just the tap of a button

plucky acorn Dec 18, 2018, 5:07 AM

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The 183 needs a rework. Not a nerf.

summer notch Dec 18, 2018, 5:07 AM

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183 getting nerfed I hear

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‘Bout time if you ask me

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:08 AM

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@plucky acorn This is the half assed solution, and all you can expect of WG while they're getting this event on

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Hard tank to balance due to the alpha and pen.

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Same issue they have with the AMX 30 B - but that due to mobility, gun and turret armor

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Just make it a collector tank and replace the spot with the badger 🤨

forest tundra Dec 18, 2018, 5:14 AM

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it is reckless to nerf 183's gun just for the dpg, despite of the worst winrate

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 5:15 AM

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No real solution to the 183. The problem is that alpha and pen is problematic to Blitz.

jovial edge Dec 18, 2018, 5:15 AM

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It's also reckless to listen to the playerbase right? @forest tundra

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Well there is the solution of just delet

jovial edge Dec 18, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I don't have the 183 and even I know that wouldn't be good for the game. Lots of people would be happy, but lots of people (including 183 drivers) would be very angry as well.

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I think it would be unfair for those who grinded it out if it the 183 was magically taken away from them.

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Well the 183 isn't exactly good for the game either

jovial edge Dec 18, 2018, 5:23 AM

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I completely agree with you, but I don't think it's fair to just take it away

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:24 AM

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We'd need like some major compensation for that, like maybe a nice pile of gold + a special badger attachment

forest tundra Dec 18, 2018, 5:24 AM

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Just give it the armor as pc, then I don't care what wg would do to balance its dpg

jovial edge Dec 18, 2018, 5:24 AM

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You and I both know that WG will not keep it "special". They'll probably just give them early access.

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:25 AM

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you know what I mean, but a 183 shell lodged into the front of the Badger as an attachment would be neat

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:37 AM

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As someone who has a 183 I am perfectly happy for this game to be rid of it if I get a badger

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:38 AM

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some people don't have enough skill to realize that

quiet kite Dec 18, 2018, 6:12 AM

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Fix your rng system. Can be aiming at the flat side of an is6 or T29 and bounce a shot with over 240mm of pen because of a bad roll of dice. Smh.

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 6:14 AM

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Well doesn't mean you hit the flat side of the IS-6 or T29

quiet kite Dec 18, 2018, 6:16 AM

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@jovial kernel dude I just bounced off the rear of a 183 with a jagdtiger.

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If that isn't bs then I don't know what is.

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I'm gonna guess it missed and went through the tracks

haughty harness Dec 18, 2018, 7:19 AM

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can wotb add SPG tank

atomic hound Dec 18, 2018, 7:38 AM

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@jovial kernel explain this one then...

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dapper shadow Dec 18, 2018, 7:39 AM

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Americans cannot harm each other 🙃

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 7:43 AM

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Your T34's shells ate too many burgers and became so heavy they fell short of the target.

atomic hound Dec 18, 2018, 7:43 AM

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Jokes aside... That is ridiculous.
Not my picture, I should add, but that doesn't matter.

dapper shadow Dec 18, 2018, 7:45 AM

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Shooting prammo at light tanks is equally ridiculous as well...

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 7:45 AM

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Unless it’s HESH

dapper shadow Dec 18, 2018, 7:46 AM

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Hesh is the exception, I was referring to apcr and heat at close range

atomic hound Dec 18, 2018, 7:47 AM

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That shot wasn't heat, look at the tracer

visual nimbus Dec 18, 2018, 7:47 AM

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I hate it when people fire HEAT at light tanks it makes me mad even when opfor does it

dapper shadow Dec 18, 2018, 7:47 AM

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@atomic hound I wasn't reflecting on the picture, just in general

paper sky Dec 18, 2018, 9:08 AM

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When r they gonna nerf vk 100p to ground ffs

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Its too much overcooked i cant even pen in with pramos in my t7 tanks.

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 9:09 AM

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When you shoot at not the front

paper sky Dec 18, 2018, 9:10 AM

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What?

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Why are you trying to shoot the front of a VK 100.01 (P) with a tier 7 tank

paper sky Dec 18, 2018, 9:11 AM

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So i should flank in my hts?

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And also the sides r unpennable with t43s premo i think u wont get it

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 9:25 AM

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A long time player is loosing interest in the game. Why? Well with the reform of the tech trees, to help the new players learn quicker, these new players with 3000 to 7000 battles buy their way to tier 10. There some succeed but many fail. No skills build up yet, money drain, being called out for noobs seems not to demotivate them. However for more experienced players, this brings tier x excitement down a lot. Same for tier 8 and tier 9. Soon we will see bots coming into higher tiers since people bail out, both experienced and unexperienced players. I see that wg is trying to compensate this loss of income with tanks being priced too high but providing direct access to the higher tiers. A one time gain, a longtime loss.

wicked raven Dec 18, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Wtf

modern fern Dec 18, 2018, 10:49 AM

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so many things wrong with this ^^
7k battles is more than enough to be a good player
calling out noobs is the complete opposite of how to keep a game going
as far as i know, there are no bots in high tiers in wotb yet
tanks are priced just as high as before

paper sky Dec 18, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Problems are th gold nubs coz they buy their tier 8+ prems as soon as the join the game less thn 1k battle with prem tank in high tiers spoiling the gameplay

modern fern Dec 18, 2018, 11:22 AM

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agree on that, i think prems should be slowly unlocked as you get better

indigo knot Dec 18, 2018, 12:46 PM

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vk 100.01 p is fine ...just nerf a litlle traverse it would be fine

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its just like maus at tier 8 and t54s cant pen maus easily same as t43 cant pen vk100.01p

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why nerf it when it is the best counter of op premium tanks ....take wz120 1Ft.....it can thrash any tank in the game bar jp2 and vk100.1p

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Nerf just the turret cheeks and the cupola, turret cheeks are so small that you don't even need to angle turret and a 200mm cupola is a joke, don't need another E3

indigo knot Dec 18, 2018, 12:50 PM

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turret cheeks get angled when side scraping ...and we dont need another kv4 either

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 12:57 PM

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You said it, it's a T8 Maus and if you point with your turret directly at a enemy with a Maus you get pen all day long even with AP or HESH form 183 in the flatter area. Several times I face hug a Vk 100 P with my T34 (248 pen) and only hope to pen the turret is sides or cupola, let's say that I tried ±10 shoots on Vk 100 P cheeks, not a single pen with 248mm pen (best of T8 Heavys and literally 2 more than Maus)

lunar niche Dec 18, 2018, 1:05 PM

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If you nerf the cupola, what use is the frontal armour? If the cupola on E3 was nerfed, all the 300mm+ armour on its front would be useless.

It has the lowest HP compared to other tier 8 heavies. The LFP is weak even when angled and sides are easy to pen once flanked, unless you are shooting the spaced armour.

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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I'm not saying a 30mm cupola but at least 150mm because it's a joke the amount of bounces the "weak spots" produce. Only real method to kill Vk 100 P frontally is lower plate when on Maus is the cheeks

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 1:09 PM

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VK 100.01 (P) is already balanced. It isn’t the tanks fault that a slew of nubs don’t k ow how to fight them

frail folio Dec 18, 2018, 1:12 PM

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I'm not saying it's OP, gun is fine, armor have no problem but weak spots should be weak spots, if they don't nerf the cheeks then what's the point on playing the Maus when you have a better copy in T8?

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I get is supposed go have good armor and that's fine, but it's also supposed to be a T8 Maus, and Maus cheeks are a joke being so weak, so or buf Maus cheeks or nerf Vk 100 ones

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Powercreeped by his own lower Tier copys, rest in piece Maus

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 1:25 PM

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@frail folio. Don't fight it frontally 🤷‍♂️

Seriously it's slow and has meh dpm. Save it for last.

warm meadow Dec 18, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Yeah and if you do fight it then track if and circle of death it

indigo knot Dec 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

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this tank is balanced ...fight this thing same as you would as maus

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i dont fight maus unless in my e100 or is4

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i don't see it much in ratings....i think mobility is biggest asset in wot blitz (unless its himmelsdorf)

formal forge Dec 18, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Uhm this happens more that i in a match just playing suddenly im kicked out of the game

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New bug? I guess?

sharp wind Dec 18, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Because this is balanced.

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quick tide Dec 18, 2018, 3:09 PM

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On average, 35 Candy Canes from $12 containers. You'll need to open 55 of them to get 1,930 required Candy Canes for Stage 5 of the tree. That's around $600.

On average, 6 Candy Canes from the 1,500 Gold containers. You'll need to open 321 of them to get 1,930 required Candy Canes for Stage 5 of the tree. That's around 430,000 Gold and will cost you $1,100.

I won't even talk about the the Free XP crates, they aren't any better than the ones purchasable for gold.

@quick tide

quick lichen Dec 18, 2018, 3:48 PM

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You’re not including the free candy canes from playing battles though

coarse harness Dec 18, 2018, 4:19 PM

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-350 candy, not a big deal🙄

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You can collect them, and spin once for free...

...if you give up all of your social life for the holidays.
Gl & hf😊

lunar niche Dec 18, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Maus doesn't have the cupola or the weird turret shape that gets weak while angling. And it has the HP of a superheavy unlike VK 100 which has the lowest hp for tier 8 heavies.

While 240 mm turret cheeks can be penned by pretty much anything head on, my main grip about the Maus is the 80 mm side armour. Vk has 100 mm while Mauschen has 120mm. 80mm hull armour gets tracked at ridiculous angles and becomes a weakspot while angling the hull.

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Maus has 185mm of side armor, where are you getting 80?

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I heard about somewhat 80mm behind tracks

quick lichen Dec 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Oh boy is this guy in for a surprise

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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@paper sky Well T-44 standard ammo can pen so T-43 prammo absolutely can

quick lichen Dec 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Discussing the maus with the maus god himself

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Oof

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Idk I just heard about it
I didn’t go check

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:34 PM

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If you get directly behind the drive wheel you can pen, but it’s a hard shot to make

slender briar Dec 18, 2018, 5:35 PM

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You can only get that shot if the Maus is focused elsewhere. Load the gold!

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Whatever it can’t be hit while sidescraping

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 5:36 PM

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^

lapis shadow Dec 18, 2018, 5:39 PM

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^

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Vk 100.01 (P) is not a better copy of the Maus. Tier for tier it is worse - the issue generally tier 8 has worse players. Generally

atomic hound Dec 18, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I've somehow managed 9th on EU in the maus in the past 30 days...

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Not a lot of people play it and most that do have no idea how to use it correctly

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 8:54 PM

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sadly most that don't don't know how to counter it

hidden scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 8:55 PM

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Imagine if we didn’t have hitskins, how many tier X tanks would be deemed “OP”

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 9:12 PM

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imaging the Grave Digger and Lupus big oof

warm meadow Dec 18, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Oof

unique scaffold Dec 18, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Oof

lapis shadow Dec 18, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Oof

clever mauve Dec 18, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Oof

jovial kernel Dec 18, 2018, 9:33 PM

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👀

fossil nest Dec 18, 2018, 10:05 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/451474973551493133/522118593857716234/20181211_183223.png?width=841&height=473 happened again

sharp wind Dec 18, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Stop playing the kv2

fossil nest Dec 18, 2018, 10:07 PM

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i need the win for the event so i am playing it

sharp wind Dec 18, 2018, 10:08 PM

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WG thinks otherwise

fossil nest Dec 18, 2018, 10:09 PM

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@lean forge (since u are a developer) this needs to be fixed please

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Not all shells go inside the reticle.

rain ivy Dec 18, 2018, 10:28 PM

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The reticle gives the idea where they will generally go, not where RNG takes them

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Generally radicals are based upon an 82% PER (Probability of Error Ratio) Same with firing tables for mourners an artillery etc. in the beans on for machine guns too if you really care. WG Uses a 90% reticle

slender briar Dec 18, 2018, 10:44 PM

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It's 90%? I thought it was 2σ?

drowsy plaza Dec 18, 2018, 11:40 PM

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90% of your shots should go inside the reticle

rain ivy Dec 19, 2018, 12:20 AM

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I think the 183 should be removed entirely tbh

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It promotes camping, hesh is a broken ammo type, and they are too common

lunar niche Dec 19, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Thought most people knew about this really. Very annoying when you get penned here while brawling.

📎 Screenshot_20181219-002344_Armor_Inspector.jpg

frail folio Dec 19, 2018, 12:27 AM

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I mean, HESH on T49 or Cent is fine but getting hit by a nuke from spawn removing 1625 HP...

delicate crypt Dec 19, 2018, 12:29 AM

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EZ to pen at here too*

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lunar niche Dec 19, 2018, 12:32 AM

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The hull slants in console are 200 mm and PC pre buff was 200mm. No idea why Blitz has 185 mm. I don't think anyone can hit that though as it is too small and the values keep changing.

delicate crypt Dec 19, 2018, 12:43 AM

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PC that position have 300mm Need tierIX-X Permium ammo to pen But here all I need to do is use T62A's normal standard shell then i can pen it easily...

jovial kernel Dec 19, 2018, 5:57 AM

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Remove Grave Digger recoil (tank shake when shooting) so I can actually hit the weak spots when it's shooting then it will be balanced

visual nimbus Dec 19, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I like the recoil

jovial kernel Dec 19, 2018, 6:20 AM

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It shakes the Grave Digger in particular way too much, a 57mm gun should not shake an 80 ton tank that much, also the shake makes hitting the Grave Digger's weak spots almost impossible

visual nimbus Dec 19, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I see ur point.. WG should add gun recoil in game.

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Wonder if this’ll be to tough for mobile

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cunning compass Dec 19, 2018, 10:05 AM

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Ur not the only one

modern fern Dec 19, 2018, 11:22 AM

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can ppl stop posting these lol

frail folio Dec 19, 2018, 12:02 PM

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@visual nimbus go to Normandy map, watch all the flaks in the ground, there you have your answer

warm meadow Dec 19, 2018, 12:04 PM

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But what he's talking about is having it on player controlled tanks

frail folio Dec 19, 2018, 12:25 PM

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@warm meadow it's just a small animation, 14 (1 for each tank alive in the battle) can't be that fatal to a mobile if you have 20+ guns in the ground doing the exact same thing

warm meadow Dec 19, 2018, 12:33 PM

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But each gun is on a different tank with different wights

frail folio Dec 19, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Sure, 183 will have more recoil than T7 car but also it have to do an animation every 20 secs, I'm still waiting to see proper track animations and turrets flying when ammo racks

unique scaffold Dec 19, 2018, 1:51 PM

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..

unique scaffold Dec 19, 2018, 2:43 PM

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nerf dracula?

atomic hound Dec 19, 2018, 2:46 PM

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No chance. It's a premium, what do you expect. It isn't even close to being the most overpowered anymore, after that new wz Chinese td.

unique scaffold Dec 19, 2018, 3:10 PM

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What tank are we complaining about today 🤔

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How to get permission to post messages in giveways

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@unique scaffold. You don't. That is not an area for you to post in.

lone warren Dec 19, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Lol

quick lichen Dec 19, 2018, 3:20 PM

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@unique scaffold false. If they get a job at wg then they can

unique scaffold Dec 19, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Semantics. To the best of my knowledge he does not currently work for wargaming therefore he cannot at this time post to that area.

junior hornet Dec 19, 2018, 3:52 PM

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R

candid rain Dec 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Why does 183 have better camo than Grille 15?

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I was playing in 121B and it managed to spot me before I spot him in open area

empty ice Dec 19, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Finally not muted

ebon breach Dec 19, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Maybe he had camo net @candid rain

ivory fractal Dec 19, 2018, 7:39 PM

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@candid rain btw 183s concealment is due to be nerfed in OT 5.7

idle shoal Dec 19, 2018, 9:28 PM

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Ohhhhh

mortal bloom Dec 19, 2018, 9:35 PM

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@candid rain I have 183 but it has no camo and no view range and I have camo and the camo net

hidden cosmos Dec 19, 2018, 9:37 PM

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I'm honestly annoyed that I find this a scam, the prices to buy boxes, gold and tanks are very expensive. In addition they force you to play like crazy if you want to get an event to get a premium tank. Some time ago I want to have a premium tank, but I can not because I do not have the money, besides that the drops in the boxes are extremely low in order to obtain those tanks.

jovial kernel Dec 19, 2018, 10:19 PM

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the Shmalturm is rather reasonable in terms of the grind actually

unique scaffold Dec 19, 2018, 10:32 PM

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🤞that the 183 is just the first in a number of high tier balance changes.

ivory fractal Dec 19, 2018, 10:33 PM

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@hidden cosmos it’s not a scam, no one is misleading you

ivory flint Dec 19, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Yo Blitz Devs (or whomever is in charge of sticking new tanks in the game) I know game ballence is hard, and making new tanks is not quick and easy, but can you PLEASE extend the Russian, German, and American light tank tech-trees to tier ten? Lately it feels like every new tank is either Heavy or Tank Destroyer in it's designation and it would so help fix the FV 215B 183 camp-fest that tier X currently is if you put some more lights to the game; as autoloaders don't appeal to everyone and the Batchatillion is a very neiche tank. Also considering that there were farther buffs planed for the batchat that never got implemented into the game, its pretty safe to say that the Batchatillion 25T is more than a wee bit underpowered and rather inefficient at doing the whole "light tank thing" at least in my opinion.

empty ice Dec 19, 2018, 11:24 PM

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@ivory flint wait 2 more years are they will probably consider to do it

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And wait another year for them to actually implement it

ivory flint Dec 19, 2018, 11:26 PM

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Watch them buff the T62A instead lol @empty ice

empty ice Dec 19, 2018, 11:27 PM

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They will probably secretly buff the 183, while they nerf the camo on it

ivory flint Dec 19, 2018, 11:27 PM

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Faxx

hidden scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 12:52 AM

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So I played tier 7 for the first time since Halloween, and what the actual **** is the gravedigger. The entire side and front is not pennable and the thing can outmaneuver my panther. Who put this in the game and called it balanced?

brisk sigil Dec 20, 2018, 12:57 AM

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It is just an AMX 13 57, but with armor... Balanced on the same weight as the other hallowen themed tanks, actually it can eat 7 helsings for breakfast xD

spark temple Dec 20, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Same thing goes for the Scavenger

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They're just tanks made of junk, how come they're OP as hell?

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 1:12 AM

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Scavenger isn't OP...and neither is the Grave Digger.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 1:15 AM

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The Grave Digger needs to just have the recoil when firing removed so I can actually hit the weak spots

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seriously that tank shakes way too much you can't aim down the lower plate or cupola at all

rotund copper Dec 20, 2018, 1:26 AM

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The gravedigger is a bully at tier 7, but in tier 8 games it can get wrecked easily

dim field Dec 20, 2018, 1:34 AM

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Become friends with an ISU player.
You will never fear a Gravedigger again

wintry pendant Dec 20, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Pls fix my t82 add the 105 derp back it’s worthless without it

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Can you please upgrade the su teir 5 pls?

modern fern Dec 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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@unique scaffold you just gonna ask wg to buff every tank that you’re currently playing?

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 4:03 AM

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yes

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 5:13 AM

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yes

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@modern fern Do you have a problem?

modern fern Dec 20, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Woah
No need to 🧂 on me

vocal dew Dec 20, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Darcula is too op ;-;

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 5:39 AM

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meh it could be the Helsing

narrow basin Dec 20, 2018, 8:44 AM

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T22 medium needs a (dpm) nerv

ocean snow Dec 20, 2018, 9:39 AM

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we need a tank that runs 100+km/h

vivid citrus Dec 20, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Have you even driven Ru251?

open viper Dec 20, 2018, 10:26 AM

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I have

cobalt silo Dec 20, 2018, 10:34 AM

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Hmmm gravedigger is too op

deft owl Dec 20, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Wz-120-1g Ft is underpowered. Needs to be buffed so badly.

late tiger Dec 20, 2018, 10:38 AM

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yeah needs to receive a deathstar gun with a 0.5 sec reload and carry 5X more ammunition

deft owl Dec 20, 2018, 10:39 AM

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@late tiger Also armor is lacking. It needs 2x more armor at least.

late tiger Dec 20, 2018, 10:39 AM

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yeah and needs a speed of 500 miles per hour

ocean snow Dec 20, 2018, 10:40 AM

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give a Tier 1 tank that can 1 shot

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now it's silent

late tiger Dec 20, 2018, 10:41 AM

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nonononononon

haughty harness Dec 20, 2018, 10:51 AM

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tier 4 is not balanced why Wargaming decreased matilda,s penetration from 102 to 76

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and second matchmaking is not balanced evry time i use new tank like IS i play with tier 8s WTF

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 11:03 AM

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If ever there was a game got it wrong it's WOTB = worst matchmaker in the world - teams are so one sided it's a joke" ! One team has high wr , all in a clan, etc, better PIng, ping is more important than WR/ it dictates wr, fffs WG wake up - fix matchmaker FFS.

haughty harness Dec 20, 2018, 11:18 AM

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@unique scaffold i Agreed

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 11:27 AM

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@unique scaffold @haughty harness or you could carry harder like the rest of us do 🤷‍♂️🖖

haughty harness Dec 20, 2018, 11:28 AM

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we all have the same feelings @unique scaffold

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 11:28 AM

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No "we" don't.

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With a few minor exceptions the matchmaking is fine. 2. This is not the place to discuss matchmaking. See the pinned messages

upbeat tide Dec 20, 2018, 11:50 AM

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if matchmaking is unbalanced then yeah. dumb chat

upbeat tide Dec 20, 2018, 12:06 PM

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buff all 175mm pen guns to 182mm

vocal dew Dec 20, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Pls nerf Darcula, its TOO OP

formal forge Dec 20, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Uhhh i dunno it is added in the game or it is an bug cuz someone was afk in my team and the enemy was capping base. At 100 points the afk suddenly died with full hp. (It was 1 vs 1)

surreal turtle Dec 20, 2018, 2:24 PM

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@formal forge ive seen that too, so weird

clever mauve Dec 20, 2018, 2:26 PM

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I think it’s a new thing they added to the game to punish afk players

formal forge Dec 20, 2018, 2:29 PM

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Realy? lol an nice one form WG. But i hope that 0 stare military honor player goes camp and doenst help the team will gt punished

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It feels the su152 is hard nerfed

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Doenst aim well if full aim it still misses fuel is easyer to hit

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Wherever you shoot a russian or chinese tank, you’ll hit the fuel

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I've heard a lot of people say that derp tanks were ninja nerfed. I say good.

twilit crystal Dec 20, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Can't wait for the 183 nerf

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 3:25 PM

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It's going to be great 😆 @twilit crystal

twilit crystal Dec 20, 2018, 3:25 PM

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However I still argue it needs 20k shell costs and its original credit coefficient OF 50%

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 3:32 PM

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I agree. Playing the 183 should burn through silver reserves like crazy.

Unfortunately I think 183 players will just move on to some other TD's. Sadly I don't think the days of 6+ TD's in a match are going to go away anytime soon.

thin condor Dec 20, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Yep it's going to be great almost to the tort

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Just rebalance the meta and give more important roles to LTs, +add more tier 9/10 LTs

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@unique scaffold. Light tanks take map knowledge and skill to do well in. unfortunately those are both things that this player base is in short supply of.

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 4:10 PM

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In my opinion lights and mediums suffer the most from the way that the blitz team balances tanks. Lights and mediums require good situational awareness and good map knowledge to do well in. these are things that the blitz team cannot Nerf because they are completely independent from the game. a good player using his map knowledge and situational awareness is able to maximize the mobility and flexibility of a light or a medium tank. By balancing these tanks off of the performance of 55 to 65% win rate players you are making these tanks nearly unplayable for the average 48%.

silk egret Dec 20, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Idk what channel to put this in but Me and a couple other clan members keep experiencing a bug where the HUD Glitches out and the game freezes <@&481447501690568709>

worthy basin Dec 20, 2018, 4:32 PM

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We don't work for wargaming 😅

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That bug has been reported numerous time, and I expect that's what the patch and maintenance are for

silk egret Dec 20, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Ah ok thanks for the info! @worthy basin

worthy basin Dec 20, 2018, 4:33 PM

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=) I hope things will be back to normal tomorrow morning 👌

queen hemlock Dec 20, 2018, 4:38 PM

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@unique scaffold do you check team winrates too when you win a game 7-0?

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 4:46 PM

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^^^

atomic hound Dec 20, 2018, 5:01 PM

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@unique scaffold true, but this is like that for all (non-premium) tanks for a reason. If it wasn't, the likes of us would run around with 75-80% wr in them rather than 65-70%.

I fail to see that wg balances premium tanks at all nowadays, which is why I feel they're an exception.

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It would ruin the competitive scene too

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Competitive scene? You mean WZ-120-1 FT spam?

velvet lark Dec 20, 2018, 5:14 PM

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@vivid cobalt ... full info .. MohaFaisal86 - EU

atomic hound Dec 20, 2018, 5:21 PM

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@jovial kernel at tier ten, I meant, if lights and mediums were balanced to average players rather than decent ones.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 5:22 PM

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At least the high tier ~~premiums~~ "enriched" tanks seem somewhat balanced

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 5:31 PM

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WG secret technique —> introduce prems underperforming to okay so they don’t have to deal with OP prems

atomic hound Dec 20, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Sort of, but not entirely for some of them
@jovial kernel

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 5:32 PM

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they at least made an attempt

atomic hound Dec 20, 2018, 5:35 PM

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I'm highly skeptical of that after this t22 release.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 5:40 PM

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true, but I did mean so far

odd plinth Dec 20, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Please nerf the t28 prot

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 6:13 PM

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no, buff it lol

odd plinth Dec 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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Oopps ye i mean buff it xD

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:12 PM

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bcs everyone feels bad about the the nashorn while its a decent tank but ye... no armour, no turret and ugly af

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:14 PM

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@storm jungle the Jg.Pz. IV has armor and reloads an 88mm gun in 4 seconds which gives it more dpm than the Obj. 268

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That's literally the only downside lol

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:16 PM

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and low amount of hp

sharp wind Dec 20, 2018, 7:17 PM

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202 isn’t that bad

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:18 PM

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Well I know the Jg.Pz. IV doesn't have great penetration but it has mobility, armor, and outright broken dpm

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Not really the Jg.Pz. IV has more dpm because it gets 220 alpha every 4 seconds

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Still try that to compare that to the SU 122 54

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:21 PM

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But that's tier 9. Tier 7 has high dpm tanks like the BP and Comet but the Jg.Pz. IV has even more

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:21 PM

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420 alpha with a 5 second reload

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:22 PM

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I want that so bad

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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But there needs to be a way to nerf it so it would ruin the MM (I hate bad timing... 🤦)

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But with a 40 round mag...

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:24 PM

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oh man that tank is so fun on PC lol

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I mean it's literally been confirmed to not happen

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no lol PC has a line that's pretty balanced

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:38 PM

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@storm jungle. Was that a joke? Did you really mean to say that the T23E3 is OP?

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:40 PM

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If the T23E3 is overpowered the Comet must be best in the game 😂

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Have you seen one get put against any tier 8 tank? it can't do anything about it

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Okay. This doesn't happen often but I'm literally at a loss for words right now. Are you going to tell me that the SP 1c is over powered next?

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:42 PM

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So remind me how the T23E3 is good because there's tier 6 tanks with like 400 more dpm

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@jovial kernel it goes in reverse really fast!

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I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:50 PM

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lol try driving a comet

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:50 PM

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SU-100M1 is fine, the armour is actually bad

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If you don’t know how to angle (yep this slowmode really needs to be reduce... a total pain in the back...)

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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Comet. A T23E3 but with turret armor that actually allows you to put your DPM to good use.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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and 2 more degrees of gun depression

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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But it doesn't go in reverse as fast 😆

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Ahem, say that to the AT family lol

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:53 PM

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it can take it in the turret

slender briar Dec 20, 2018, 7:53 PM

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I would put the Panther ahead of the T23E3

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:54 PM

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KV-3 152mm...
https://media.giphy.com/media/Qy9hRuWrKjY2I/giphy.gif

Giphy

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Panther and T-34-1 are easily the best tech tree tier 7 mediums

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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I haven'tdone the 34-1 grind yet... Maybe someday.

slender briar Dec 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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You should get the 121! Dpm monster

sinful parrot Dec 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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@jovial kernel what about the t-43.....

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Eh it's decent

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 7:56 PM

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T-43 is gud
Comet is gudder

sinful parrot Dec 20, 2018, 7:56 PM

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Comets dpm in high tier matchups is barely usable lmao.

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 7:57 PM

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yeah pretty much hence why the Panther and T-34-1 are better imo

slender briar Dec 20, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Have to grind the Panther 2 soon 😥

sinful parrot Dec 20, 2018, 7:58 PM

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Panther is free damage in high tiers. Won’t bounce anything.

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The edelweiss is where it’s at. 🙃

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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15 degrees of gun depression

slender briar Dec 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Emil blows. Borsig is gud.

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 8:00 PM

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Expect armour and reload obviously

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 8:02 PM

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no u

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Vindicator definitely needs to be changed to a Collector tank so it can be nerfed

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Ahem... the derp gun... one shotted me in my T 43 between 2 BUILDINGS

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And that spaced armour...

quick lichen Dec 20, 2018, 8:08 PM

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@storm jungle Nazi pfp huh?

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That’s a bold move considering the rules

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Why does it need changing in the first place?

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You believe in Nazism?

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 8:11 PM

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umm wut

quick lichen Dec 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I don’t know if you should be here

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 8:14 PM

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It’s ok

slender briar Dec 20, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Lol

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 8:28 PM

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This should end well.

lapis shadow Dec 20, 2018, 8:37 PM

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LOL

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 9:35 PM

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On the subject of the Vindicator. I do t really see it as an issue. Just stay away from the front of it and everything is fine.

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 9:53 PM

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if someone asks what raik is talking about, there was a user with fascistic symbols and posting nazi content - hes Banned

jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 10:00 PM

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I totally kept that image they posted though

drowsy plaza Dec 20, 2018, 10:47 PM

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@unique scaffold SP1C is op

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jovial kernel Dec 20, 2018, 10:50 PM

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Lol

unique scaffold Dec 20, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Balance....? Yea... The game is
' balanced '.... Whatever...

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@drowsy plaza stop dumping on my points 🤣

summer notch Dec 21, 2018, 12:08 AM

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The grille on a hille?

drowsy plaza Dec 21, 2018, 12:22 AM

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@unique scaffold I rarely play it - it requires a lot of effort to do well in. If I want to spend that effort, I’ll play my PTA or Leo 1

unique scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 12:27 AM

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Don’t you love Wargaming’s ability to make games worse, example: Let’s remove lower tiers to “help” new players, our matchmaking should be crap too. Oh we can forget to make it up to them with an event that can be only completed by wallet warriors!!!”

unique scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 12:45 AM

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@unique scaffold. You are going to get a free tier 2 that can easily be sold for gold. The grind for a free tier VI is a cake walk and also requires no money. Try to sound a little less entitled.

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A lot of people want the T-22, not the German

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Then buy it. Wargaming isn't a charity. They don't owe you a free tier X.

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A lot of people want a blonde super model mistress and a garage full of luxury cars, nobody's handing those out either. If you want something you have to pay for it.

modern fern Dec 21, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Sp1c needs reload between shells shortened to what it used to be

unique scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 1:20 AM

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^

summer sentinel Dec 21, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Tier1-5 need re-rebalance

austere saffron Dec 21, 2018, 2:09 AM

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WG please buff tiers 1-4

thick condor Dec 21, 2018, 2:10 AM

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183 needs buff. Change my mind

austere saffron Dec 21, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Lol @thick condor. Tier 4s are no match for tier 5s and Tier 5 battles are getting so mf common for some reason

thick condor Dec 21, 2018, 2:13 AM

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I couldnt care less about anything below tier 8

solar flicker Dec 21, 2018, 2:17 AM

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👌

modern fern Dec 21, 2018, 2:24 AM

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T5s are no match for t6
Jpz iv literally has double the DPM of stug

noble notch Dec 21, 2018, 2:56 AM

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I think the foch line needs to be buffed

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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nah the tier 6 is garbage though

vocal dew Dec 21, 2018, 4:38 AM

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cuz they meet LTTB and darcula

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 4:39 AM

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nah the ARL V39 is just actually that bad

vocal dew Dec 21, 2018, 4:39 AM

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ARL? Thats like the worst one ever exist

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 4:40 AM

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yep

lunar niche Dec 21, 2018, 4:45 AM

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The tier 5 is even worse

unique warren Dec 21, 2018, 4:49 AM

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"darcula"

autumn zodiac Dec 21, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Is this true? If so, why should we bother getting premium tanks?

Premium tanks are safe from being nerfed of course.

But based on these actions, no premium tank is safe from becoming a Collector's vehicle.

Which can be nerfed.

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tall tartan Dec 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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PLEASE DO SOMETHING WITH SERVERS..when im playing suddenly ping goes up to 2000.... THIS IS SHT

autumn zodiac Dec 21, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Ah yes, the Balance of Ping

formal forge Dec 21, 2018, 8:01 AM

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I dont like the amx 50 120 in my team

atomic hound Dec 21, 2018, 8:18 AM

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I had 500 ping for no reason, restarted the game and it went. Clearly another bug.

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@autumn zodiac is this update 5.7? Where did you find that picture?

unique canopy Dec 21, 2018, 8:34 AM

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日本人は居ないのかい？

valid gust Dec 21, 2018, 9:05 AM

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Huh

tawny sail Dec 21, 2018, 10:36 AM

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It seems all event tanks are being turned into collector tanks.

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Which is stupid because they shouldn’t turn already existing tanks into collected tanks...

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 10:39 AM

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Tankenstein isn't being changed so far

wet quail Dec 21, 2018, 11:01 AM

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I think it’s unpopular premiums being turned into collectors, although kuro is too..

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Kuro kinda deserves nerfing tbh

coarse harness Dec 21, 2018, 12:14 PM

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@atomic hound blitzhangar

solar flicker Dec 21, 2018, 1:24 PM

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Colletcorizing premium tanks is WG's way of nerfing strong premium tanks so they made collector status as a scapegoat.

granite scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 1:52 PM

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the only thing that actually balanced is free win, for everyone. Oh, and the T-22 was a great success to grab money, WG employees need a happy new year too, right ?

exotic pelican Dec 21, 2018, 2:31 PM

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EA Games: Evil and made bad games
Wargaming: Evil but games are good so it ok

sharp wind Dec 21, 2018, 2:56 PM

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If they are raking in over 6billion in profits you think they need to skim off this game?

drowsy plaza Dec 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

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@atomic hound not sure where you are but ping isn’t a balance issue. FWIW Comcast IBone and WG NA has been having packet loss issues

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sharp wind Dec 21, 2018, 5:43 PM

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I live 8hrs from Chicago and get lovely 200ping. Thanks xfinity.

obsidian osprey Dec 21, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Verizon Fios has never lagged for me in 3 years except all of a sudden this month. Consistent 30-40 ping while the server was in VA suburbs, now it’s 60-70 due to Chicago relocation.

drowsy plaza Dec 21, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Ashburn server was great for me - FWIW that PingPlotter pic was around 200m away from the old Ashburn Server

stuck yarrow Dec 21, 2018, 6:47 PM

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evryone know that moment when on the other team are 3 Scavengers

lapis shadow Dec 21, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Lol, I feel it as well

wintry trout Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 PM

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Genuine question, how will making Tiers 1-3 so bad, not fun and boring encourage new players to play on? The whole reason WG destroyed the tech trees during 5.5?

clever mauve Dec 21, 2018, 7:44 PM

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The vindicator and predator really aren’t OP by any means ~ I hope they don’t get nerfed

jovial kernel Dec 21, 2018, 7:56 PM

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they probably won't

hidden scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Is the spotting system ever going to be fixed so it is actually consistent and makes sense

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Explain how firing 2 shots from my BC sitting 200 meters away behind a bush does not get me spotted but the 3rd shot does

unique scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I think WZ-120 should get an buff

quick lichen Dec 21, 2018, 9:18 PM

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@hidden scaffold it stacks 😂

mortal bloom Dec 21, 2018, 9:26 PM

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It needs a reload buff

drowsy plaza Dec 21, 2018, 9:26 PM

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@hidden scaffold spotting is also based on the scan interval .3 sec iirc so you may have ‘been visible’ the other times but got lucky. Speaking of spotting issues. i still want to know how an IS-4 sneaks up on my M48 and face shoots me on Yamato - felt like Mad Games cane back today.

warm meadow Dec 21, 2018, 9:31 PM

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@hidden scaffold you get spotted then 3 seconds after it notifys you

atomic hound Dec 21, 2018, 9:54 PM

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@drowsy plaza wrong tag over the ping mate

spring pelican Dec 21, 2018, 9:57 PM

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they still reworking 30B

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quick lichen Dec 21, 2018, 9:58 PM

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💦

unique scaffold Dec 21, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Who else thinks T7 car needs a buff again? Its practically useless now.

blissful spear Dec 21, 2018, 11:27 PM

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I agree

drowsy plaza Dec 21, 2018, 11:38 PM

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@atomic hound you complained about ping spikes - and I pointed out several networks are having issues.

frail folio Dec 22, 2018, 1:03 AM

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2.000 is a LOT of speed, most maps will get a shell from side to side in under a second

twilit crystal Dec 22, 2018, 1:44 AM

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just sell the car its a good amount of gold

smoky yoke Dec 22, 2018, 2:52 AM

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This is BS I wasted so much time on Vindicator and Predator grinding it and it becoming collector ,wtf >.<. They made it incredibly difficult , it cost way more than 2.5k gold. I wasted hours upon hours grinding for that tank. Remember wargaming that you made that event so bad that we had to play over 1k battles in 10 -20 days to even get the tank. If you nerf it that would suck.

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Check video to see how to receive it

dim field Dec 22, 2018, 3:02 AM

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I don't see your name on the list

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Did you change your discord name from your in gam name?

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I don't see your name on the screenshot. It says other people won.

untold scarab Dec 22, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Ur dc name has to be the same as ur ign

dim field Dec 22, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Your screenshot says Tank Buster, Precision, Moha, OIOI, and Hesse were the winners

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I don't see it saying that you won.

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I don't see Sweden777 listed

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untold scarab Dec 22, 2018, 3:08 AM

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U didnt won it... it isnt meant to u but the names listed

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jade cargoBOT Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 AM

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dynoSuccess Sweden777#1685 was banned

main carbon Dec 22, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Can they buff the Tiger II and I?

storm light Dec 22, 2018, 5:22 AM

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yea sure buff the tiger 1 -.-

visual nimbus Dec 22, 2018, 5:23 AM

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tiger 1 is ok-ish maybe a tad bit more armor on the lower plate. Idk...
Tiger ll on the other hand is struggling

storm light Dec 22, 2018, 5:24 AM

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you know they literarly nerfed the tiger 1 because it was like the most op tier 7 heavy

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and tiger 2 could get a side armor buff or something idk

iron lynx Dec 22, 2018, 6:07 AM

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I thought the most OP tier 7 heavy is the Tiger P

vivid citrus Dec 22, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Neither needs a buff tiger 2 or 1. Just learn to play

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Yes,sit back and support allies.Sidescraping and utilizing dpm on tiger I

vocal dew Dec 22, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Ur name xDDDD

mental schooner Dec 22, 2018, 7:23 AM

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I've lost .60% because of noobs. No matter how hard i carried them. 😭.

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Indeed

mental schooner Dec 22, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Was 58.30%.

vocal dew Dec 22, 2018, 7:24 AM

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oof

mental schooner Dec 22, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Kept loosing with amx 13 75 and vk.28.01. Good tanks fully equipped and still lost. 😩

visual nimbus Dec 22, 2018, 7:39 AM

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@vivid citrus what does the Tiger ll have that no other tank has or what does it have going for it at least?

mental schooner Dec 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Check the blitz hanger and compare the tier 8 heavies. @visual nimbus

visual nimbus Dec 22, 2018, 7:54 AM

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I did, it literally has nothing important going on for it

iron hearth Dec 22, 2018, 7:57 AM

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Think about it as a worst löwe

atomic hound Dec 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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^^^^

lunar niche Dec 22, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Tiger II is decent but powercreeped. Poor man's Lowe.

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Löwe get it right pls

dusky wolf Dec 22, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Tiger II needs more Löwe

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Or straight to kaputland as Stalin demended.

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 5:02 PM

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hey my game is crash

jovial kernel Dec 22, 2018, 6:09 PM

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@dusky wolf mate it is in kaputland

hidden scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 6:41 PM

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How to play Tiger II

Mount Überkanonen 88mm L/71 like a chad
Sidescrape in front of virgin IS 122mm spam
Penetrate their inferior armor while richocheting return fire
Win game

woven harness Dec 22, 2018, 6:47 PM

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@lean forge since the T1E6 was changed to ba abetter tank, will other low tier collector tanks also be buffed? The T7 car is barely playable due to its low penetration, the T2 light and Light VIC have the same problem and the T-15 has penetration problems too as the new tier IV M7 is untouchable by the 42mm of pen on the T-15 ( the T-15 really cannot compete at all in tier iv)

violet skiff Dec 22, 2018, 6:51 PM

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when are devs going to tell us at least what game it was that we had a complaint in? got inactivity and I have no idea why! yeah, 0 dmg in that game, but got swamped by 5 reds! would be nice to at least know which game it was!

warm meadow Dec 22, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Oof

woven harness Dec 22, 2018, 8:57 PM

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oof indeed

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Counting down the days until the 183 nerf.
https://media.giphy.com/media/tLQfm7dmGqxfa/giphy.gif

Giphy

jovial kernel Dec 22, 2018, 9:29 PM

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same

gritty wyvern Dec 22, 2018, 10:17 PM

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It’s getting nerfed?

deft owl Dec 22, 2018, 10:31 PM

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@unique scaffold Was this a sarcasm or its really getting a nerf?

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 PM

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It is getting a Nerf.

deft owl Dec 22, 2018, 10:32 PM

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Where did you get that info?

unique scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 10:34 PM

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5.7 open test.

dense sleet Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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What's the Nerf?

gritty wyvern Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 PM

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^^

dense sleet Dec 22, 2018, 10:36 PM

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@unique scaffold

timid oxide Dec 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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@dense sleet “What to look for on the open test 5.7

Balanced edits: improved shooting comfort for some tanks 1-5 levels.

FV215b (183): tank concealment, maneuverability and gun stabilisation will be nerfed. According to statistics, the tank has the highest average damage in battles, significantly exceeding this indicator among classmates. We decided not to change the damage from a shot and armor penetration, including for HESH, since this is a feature of FV215b (183), but the gun stabilisation will be reduced.”
From Schwalbe's server

dense sleet Dec 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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What you mean improved shooting compfort @timid oxide

lunar niche Dec 22, 2018, 10:48 PM

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timid oxide Dec 22, 2018, 10:49 PM

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@dense sleet Penetration, gun handling, etc... might be improved

slim yarrow Dec 22, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Buff the vk100.1p ;-; hard to play

dense sleet Dec 22, 2018, 10:54 PM

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U mean hard to play against

timid oxide Dec 22, 2018, 10:58 PM

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@slim yarrow Like the Maus. It seems logical that it's hard to play, because its big brother also has a specific playstyle. Imo it's already a great tank, it doesn't really need a buff...

grave bear Dec 22, 2018, 11:04 PM

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lmao , Maus is overpowered, it seeme balanced because there are few players playing it and 70% of them doesnt know how to drive it because it's hard, but in the right hand probably it's the best tier X, you can bounce anything and have 0 dispersion while turning the turret. it also has the best overall stats by players in tier X tanks.

twin peak Dec 22, 2018, 11:04 PM

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@timid oxide 183 penetration boosted?

crimson cosmos Dec 22, 2018, 11:20 PM

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The 183 will NOT have its pen or damage touched.

lone warren Dec 22, 2018, 11:41 PM

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The 183 is only getting a mobility and accuracy nerf from what i heard

hidden scaffold Dec 22, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Is this someone complaining the Maus is OP? I’ve finally done it lads, I’ve Made German Superheavies Great Again

frail folio Dec 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Now make German Tank Destroyers Great Again

grave bear Dec 22, 2018, 11:56 PM

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well, i have maus and i can rekt any tank

safe spire Dec 22, 2018, 11:57 PM

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@grave bear nice

grave bear Dec 22, 2018, 11:58 PM

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the only bad thing is that you cant make a lot of damage x battle, because you're slow and also have very very bad dpm, so your team is going always to steal damage and kills, but in lost battles you do always huge amounts xD

lunar niche Dec 22, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Pretty sure IS 4 will overthrow Maus.

The dispersion value while turning the turret is same for all heavies.

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And depends on the unicums playing it. Seen some unicums staying back and sniping in Maus.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:01 AM

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no bro, check maus dispersion while turning turret lmao, in blitzhangar. Also didnt need it, i can see in battles that turning turret is like doing nothing for dispersion

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im close to be super unicum in maus (like less than 10 wn8)
idk in regular, but in 1v1 maus can smash is4 with no troubles, it's enough tall to pen is4's upper plate with ap, or the whole turret roof

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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All heavies have 0.080 dispersion while rotating turret. It has the worst dispersion on move and hull rotation but its slow so it is not noticeable.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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e100 has a lot more than 0.080 🤔

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idk but blitzhangar says that maus it's the best for traverse dispersion (1 out of 11)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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You can't shoot/pen the upperplate while facehugging or while facing straight on against IS 4. You can shoot the turret hatch though. Bith of IS 7 and IS4.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:05 AM

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well, if i'm close i can pen is4's upper plate with both e100 and maus with ap (obviusly not if in extreme angle)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Check IS 7/4, they habe the same dispersion values as Maus while rotating turret. Didn't check the E100 but it has worse.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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btw, there are 3 460 dmg guns at tier X , and maus is the 2nd most accurate (263, maus and is7)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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I wouldn't rely on Maus accuracy. Been trolled too many times.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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is4's armor is good only against not so accurate guns, but with meds or other accurate tanks you cant bounce on it lol

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:09 AM

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You can't really bounce accurate guns on Maus unless they missfire.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:09 AM

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for meds, apcr under the tracks if it's a lot angled or heat in the lower plate, maus can have more effective armor than you have, so the accuracy changes nothing

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idk but in is4 you cant rely on the armor as you do in maus

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:10 AM

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APCR under the tracks can dmg Maus too. Infact, AP can do it when you angle due to 80 mm side hull.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:12 AM

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well, you need to aim VERY VERY well to pen maus in that pixel of side armor next to the spaced armor, because maus has no exposed side armor under tracks, except that 80mm thing, that can anyway bounxe for tracks armor or a bit less angling.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Of course you can rely on the armor, that’s the entire point of the Maus. It’s balanced out by the garbage pen and dpm, combined with questionable mobility

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:12 AM

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It doesn't have the effective armour of Maus in open but it sure has the turret armour to be annoying.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:13 AM

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mhh idk, exposing frongal turret every 12 seconds isnt that a trouble
also you can troll, always let them shoot before you do

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:13 AM

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The IS-4 also gets heat pen to go through an angled Maus, whereas the Maus can only pen an IS-4 with a lucky shot to the left of the gun mantlet

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:13 AM

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oof, i think maus is very good, with that 2500 hp sure, im a lot of times with 300 or 200 hp left lol
maus can pen is4's turret roof if it's in face hug, and that heat can be used only on lower plate

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:14 AM

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You have to wiggle a lot to bounce that track shot and even hope that it doesn't go to LFP. With its slow mobility, you can only cover one thing. I don't think the track shots are intentional as most people seem to not know it.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:15 AM

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yes , these tracks shots are most of the time lower plate missess, because you go forward, if you go backward, it's a bounce :))

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:16 AM

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I will still only use my Maus to push people in training rooms but a buf to turret cheeks won't hurt anyone

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:16 AM

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The way I find to fix the track issue is to move the hull forward and backward instead of wiggling. If you rely on wiggling the hull at some point you’re going to be in the exact position to pen and an enemy can wait for that shot. Constant movement forward and backward allows you to make slight adjustments and remain accurate with your gun

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:16 AM

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btw, you need at least 290 AP to pen angled maus hull (excluding that little weakspot)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Maus effective LFP armour is 235-245 mm.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:17 AM

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yes i always prefer to go backward and forward in maus, in e100 beh, you only need to hope that your huge 60mm tracks are going to abdorb something

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pls buff e100's lower plate :(

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:18 AM

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An angled Maus stll has weakspots, albiet small but meds like Leo/62a can hit it.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:18 AM

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The LFP should really not be a problem, except when relocating it’s small enough that you can hide it behind most objects or my personal favorite destroyed allied tanks

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:18 AM

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idk, they can hit it but is still very very hard, yeah i always hide lfp in allied dead nab

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it's way easier to pen is4's lfp than that maus' weakspot ,lol

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:20 AM

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LFP is no problem, its the tracks that gets shot while angled that i get annoyed at. But if LFP is hidden, its not really a problem.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:20 AM

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In my opinion the most important thing for a Maus to do is keep in constant motion whenever it’s being shot at. Damage should always be secondary to bouncing shells, and it’s very easy to throw someone’s aim off by continued motion of the hull and turret

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:20 AM

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i think with wotb mobile vr. autoaim is way easier to aim weakspots, because you dont have to face the wiggling

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yeah i never stop my maus, it's always moving, only 2 seconds for aiming a tank that just shot me
usually in maus it's better to dont lose hp rather than doing dmg
full hp maus can ez win alone against 2 1/2 hp tanks

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Facehugging is the way to go.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:22 AM

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Yeah, you negate most armor because you’re tall enough to fire down on it

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Depends on the player. I have soloed a full hp Maus. And i am average.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:23 AM

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2500 hp, plus they're going to bounce at least 2-3 times and using gold (even less damage taken)

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:24 AM

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It’s easy to solo a Maus if the person driving it is mentally ill, fighting someone competent is a scary thing to do

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:24 AM

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i love maus' armor, but in regular battles i find e100 a better choice

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:25 AM

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I grinded the E100 thinking i could make its armour work whike at the same time dish out 640 dmg.

Oh boy, the armour difference is noticeable.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:25 AM

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I disagree but I have a massive hatred for my E-100. Bad armor layout and terrible gun performance for me, but I will say its side armor skirts are nice

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:25 AM

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so nice to have 640 alpha in a super armored tank (not that super, compared to maus, but still you can sidescrape so bad with that op side)
yeah e100's armor in openfield is closely to be useless, but you only need to get your a s s on a rock or a little hill, using your almos unpenetrable ufp to improve lfp, and you're done, some troll skills and bounce Te3's apcr

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Only good thing about E100 is the UFP and side armour and the 15cm.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:27 AM

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For me the 15cm performs like a 130mm, constant low rolls and rarely do I see anything 700+

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:28 AM

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lol i do always 640dmg, for every 550 dmg i do 720 dmg
also it has a very nice heat pen ( obv it's not Te5's gold pen or fv215b, but yeah, still very good compared to maus or is7)

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Both my E-100 and Jgpz suffer from the worst rng possible

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:28 AM

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I regularly see 600+ dmg and rare 700. I don't think WG has changed the RNG since its introduction. Same for Jagero

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:30 AM

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My favorite E-100 memory is drawing a 7 kill game because my last shot hit an E4 for 500 damage when I needed 540 to kill him

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:30 AM

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In my entire 4k tier X game, i only saw max 1500 HE roll fom Jagero once.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:30 AM

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yeah i love to do 1k dmg with he in e100, t62a's side armor and most of a s s armors, also can pen is4/is7's engine deck if im in a higher position

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i think e100 can find its place in tier X battles with no troubles

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and surely, maus doesnt need a buff lol, it would be op.
but pls nerf wz113's heat damage, im bored to see them spamming heat while i drive 263, e50m, mausz e100, while doing around same ap's damage

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:32 AM

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But what if that’s why I want it buffed 🤔

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Give us the pre nerf PC Maus stats 😏

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:33 AM

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It would be OP if players don't have knowledge to deal with it. Look at what happened to Maus in PC. So many people asking for nerfs.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:33 AM

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yeah, pls buff e100's lfp, so it's around the same as maus but with better and more trollish side hull xD

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Ask for the Maus buf to Santa Maus this Christmas :D
Okey I will go suicide now

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:35 AM

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My favorite thing to do in the Maus is target 183 players. Bounce their shots and kill them so they do 0 damage. It combines my favorite two things, bouncing shots and making 183 players cry

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:35 AM

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E100 is getting buffed in PC now.

260 turret cheeks in Maus would make angling against gold shells a bit easier. Just that alone is enough haha

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:35 AM

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YES LOVE TO RUSH 183 while i drive maus HQHAHAH rekt them so bad

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Facehug and overangle turret. Push them back but if they shoot HESH then lol

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 AM

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@lunar niche
Turret ring too?
Rushing 183 with Maus or 263 = Best fun in T10

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Tbh my favorite Maus buff would be to remove hitskins entirely from high tiers

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:36 AM

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yes, but sometimes when i rush 183 in 263 they deals 1450+ dmg with fire in my lfp...

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:37 AM

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@hidden scaffold lmao, they would ask for arty then lol

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:37 AM

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@grave bear get close, facebug and when they are reloaded giggle like mad

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:37 AM

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remove hitskins = is4, maus and e100 op (rip is7, cuz im anyway going to pen hitting lfp or super weak side under trakcs)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:37 AM

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@frail folio Not sure what kind of buff E100 is gonna recieve.

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:38 AM

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Be M48 Patton
Get shot with spawncamping 183 HESH
Lol what a noob, he hit my frontal turret armor
Lose 600 HP because “balance”

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:38 AM

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lmao e100 is surely not going to receive a buff, it would be op with even the smallest thing

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:39 AM

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Not in blitz, on PC. Its powercreeped there. Leopard 1 is getting buffed too.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:39 AM

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obviusly, op for pro players, for playerbase nothinf would change
what about leo1 buff in blitz?

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:39 AM

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@hidden scaffold because they are so pros that are able to tap 2 key to load HESH so they deserve to deal 1/3 of your health

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:40 AM

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High tier German tanks don't get buffed in blitz.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:40 AM

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if im in maus they can do only less than 1/5 of my health with an hesh ;)

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:41 AM

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@grave bear i get 4-600 splash dmg while sidescraping from HESH.

And did 700 splash against a hulldown IS4.

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:41 AM

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i think tiger II needs at least 1680 hp, 1600 isnt enough for a super heavy

frail folio Dec 23, 2018, 12:41 AM

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@grave bear I got HESH'ed today for 1500+ in my Maus when dealing with a E100
#RipSide

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:42 AM

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well, to cover you from splash damage, aim straight to your hull and cover engine deck, (at least in maus, e100 and is7)
sometimes in e100 i give a lot of side armor when i know they re bots and going to shoot hesh

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Buff to Tiger II's UFP seems more reasonable

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:43 AM

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they do smt like 300 dmg loll

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:43 AM

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E100 has spaced armour where it matters. No one is shooting the bottom hull side of Maus .

hidden scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Well for starters Tiger II isn’t a superheavy

grave bear Dec 23, 2018, 12:45 AM

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yeah, it's a paper tank, but i can do so many bounces in it, my fav tank, it needs a buff but i know that it would powercreep many tanks with it

lunar niche Dec 23, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Not with tier 8 full of op premiums - sooner or later 252U will be in blitz

empty wharf Dec 23, 2018, 3:04 AM

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@lunar niche there are only Premium tanks, every round 2 Premium tanks in each team.
WG will and more and more without caring about the real tanks what's there to grind

fresh furnace Dec 23, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Yes please buff E100 and JGE100

clever portal Dec 23, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I would like to know how war gaming thinks they have a good match making process when on team is mostly 40% and other team is mostly 55% plus how is this even play

deep pike Dec 23, 2018, 3:33 AM

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It feels like some power creep is coming

fresh furnace Dec 23, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Why would amx 30B come in as a premium or collector instead of tech tree?

indigo knot Dec 23, 2018, 5:06 AM

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I feel that jage100 needs some love ...... Ap shell always low rolls and a bit of traverse buff would be nice too...afterall they nerfed the heat pen of it but are giving wz113ft(Chinese td- sorry name might be wrong) more heat pen than it 395

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 5:31 AM

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@idle torrent fix ur shit

📎 2018-12-23_00-27-21.mp4

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second shot was me accidentally deactivating auto aim

mental schooner Dec 23, 2018, 7:23 AM

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@clever portal im the 55+% :)

deft owl Dec 23, 2018, 9:31 AM

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Did someone really sad maus op? Lol it has worst gun in tier x and armor behind track is only 80. Also not to mention its the slowest tier x. People who say maus op should cry somewhere else you russian fanboys. Is-4 is the real op now.

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 10:32 AM

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2 games the same day.

lone warren Dec 23, 2018, 10:40 AM

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Maus is extremely strong if you know what you’re doing

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:26 AM

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The matchmaker is simply manipulated. Nothing new .. No more value is placed on game quality.

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The point of arcade games is to take money. The average playing time is therefore often relatively short. The gameplay is easy and quick to see, and a possible tutorial is very short. The difficulty of the game is also adapted to the intention of the vending machine: The first rounds or levels are often still relatively easy to complete successfully. This is intended to give the player the impression that he is proficient in the game.

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In the following rounds, the degree of difficulty increases noticeably, beginners already have to accept setbacks and quickly collect a "game over." However, most arcade games can be tried again with a new money injection (Continue).

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The retomit of money is (invisible) by some arcade games with a short-term lowered degree of difficulty. This is to give the player the impression that he had got better or simply had bad luck at the first attempt.

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In addition, the machine display can usually adjust the level of difficulty by means of one or more DIP(RNG) switches, so that the games are not equally heavy everywhere.

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So don't let yourself be silly .. Random teams do not exist in this game.

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Many greetings from App programmer .. Bye bye

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 11:42 AM

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hello

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:42 AM

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If you win too often then you get all the more bad players

noble chasm Dec 23, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Very balanced

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:45 AM

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There is no balance. This is not the principle of an arcade game

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You are given a wave of victories .. After that, you're going to lose hard.

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Wargaming has a patent on this principle which you can read on the Internet.

noble chasm Dec 23, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Why teams cant be 50/50

iron lynx Dec 23, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Pay for premium

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Then no one buys premium tanks anymore ..

noble chasm Dec 23, 2018, 11:52 AM

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More premiums tanks=more wins 🤔

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Arcarde games are in principle Money machines ... The bank always wins

iron lynx Dec 23, 2018, 11:53 AM

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The only premiums that are very OP imo are the WZ 120 FT and the Helsing

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Eh
Meh

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 11:55 AM

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No..@gameover .. You just reduce the free content so that everything takes longer. Then you offer tanks to earn more money, for example

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Playing in arcade will tend to lose more than win

iron lynx Dec 23, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Ya mean random battles?

noble chasm Dec 23, 2018, 11:58 AM

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So is better playing rating battles?

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 12:44 PM

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@turbid canopy do you work for Wargaming?

noble chasm Dec 23, 2018, 1:07 PM

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🖖

stuck sedge Dec 23, 2018, 2:29 PM

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Thx wg for the sport as always play as the little one 🤮

quiet creek Dec 23, 2018, 2:35 PM

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It would be beneficial if we could test drive tanks you have on sale or auction to actually see if we like them both with and with out equipment I certainly would feel happier buying a tank I knew what I was getting . A one or two minute test drive vs say a small fixed map with static tank targets or automated tanks would be sufficient to allow a better idea what we are actually getting

fresh furnace Dec 23, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Like winning premium tanks on a 3-day timer?

quiet creek Dec 23, 2018, 2:54 PM

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No just the ability to take what ever tanks on sale and drive it about for a while fire a few shots and see how it handles I bought the t54 mod and it’s sluggish feel makes me not play it Much where as if I had been able to try before u buy I probably would have chosen something else and at a decent price for a lot of premiums I think in all honesty players are more likely to buy something that fits their preferred play style it wouldn’t take much to make a small map and targets to have a trial on

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If you added an ability to trial purchase that would work a days play for a nominal sum of gold with the trial cost removed from the tanks eventual cost if you decide you like it enough to buy it but then u have the equipment dilemma does it come on trial as standard or the finished article because there’s a lot of difference between the two the t 34 independence is a prime example with what feels like two weeks of aim time on a standard model the equipment changes the feel considerably

quick lichen Dec 23, 2018, 3:05 PM

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This is pinned for a reason.

deft owl Dec 23, 2018, 3:22 PM

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lol.

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Yes is done after all. WG manipulates the matchmaker, which is just fact.

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No random teams are formed.

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Coincidentally, arcarde games do not exist.

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People won't let yourselves be silly .. WG determines when you are allowed to win and when you are not allowed to win.

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Is this possible As it is, more will be published.

slender briar Dec 23, 2018, 3:44 PM

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It is easier to assume that

turbid canopy Dec 23, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Pays no money into this game .. Whoever pays money is made even worse

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Players who have received ingame a penalty only get bad teams

gritty wyvern Dec 23, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Idk why people say the e100 is bad...

quick lichen Dec 23, 2018, 4:11 PM

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@turbid canopy tin foil hat syndrome

gritty wyvern Dec 23, 2018, 4:12 PM

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It’s one of the most fun tier x heavies

quick lichen Dec 23, 2018, 4:12 PM

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If this is what you believe, why are you here?

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@gritty wyvern it’s very good

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 4:28 PM

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To spread hate and rage on the game

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 4:57 PM

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@ɴᴀʀᴄᴏʟᴇᴘᴛɪᴄɴᴏᴏʙ#0107
https://media1.tenor.com/images/66735a94705647947b0456bdf914b046/tenor.gif?itemid=7960871

deft owl Dec 23, 2018, 6:10 PM

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@ɴᴀʀᴄᴏʟᴇᴘᴛɪᴄɴᴏᴏʙ#0107 Do you have any reletiaonship with cancracker? Any chance?

formal forge Dec 23, 2018, 6:50 PM

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I wonder they will add sturmtiger in the game xD (I guess not cuz is it too OP) imagine they srly add the sturmtiger in WoT it will be rage quit for tge player get destroyed

plush umbra Dec 23, 2018, 9:30 PM

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it would probably be a bigger and higher tier T82

jovial kernel Dec 23, 2018, 10:35 PM

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AC 46 is pretty not bad, Skorpion is good but not great

unique scaffold Dec 23, 2018, 10:38 PM

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I don't know if I should laugh or cry... @neat yew

neat yew Dec 23, 2018, 10:39 PM

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I really like the AC 46 though I've been doing awfully over the weekend so not playing for a while

rough scroll Dec 23, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Skorpion is great. Works really well in the current meta.

queen stag Dec 23, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Lol i lost about 13 battle in a row just becuz a lot of prem tank user but noob playstyle

grave siren Dec 23, 2018, 11:07 PM

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May I please bring to the attention of all WG staff that the VK 100.01 P is insanely OP. It is very hard to pen it frontally with anything, and near impossible if it wiggles, it’s hard for it to be circled, and it has a huge gun for the tier on a heavy tank.

drowsy plaza Dec 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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@grave siren seriously? 1) Aim 2) Go around 3) Leave it till last.

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Vk 100.01 (P) is ponderously slow, relatively poor DPM, bad dispersion, and lowest heavy health pool in tier. It’s good to pound scrubs but that is it.

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Every tier 8 and most 7 TD’s can pen it frontally. It’s got a giant cupola that while well armored can be easily hit.

empty ice Dec 24, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Facts and logic

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@queen stag that is the best time to be playing, it is your chance to carry, if your losing beacse your team are bad, it's also means the enemies teams are bad, as they are likely to have similar stats so if you are a good player you should be able to carry the team and do 6k in a tier 8 match

grave siren Dec 24, 2018, 12:35 AM

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Can be hit sure, but also bounces like crazy. I struggle to pen that tiny lower plate with a T34 and you can forget about penning it frontally in a tier 7 of any tank type

solar flicker Dec 24, 2018, 12:39 AM

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🅰

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 1:15 AM

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T34 can easily Pen the Vk frontally - Cupola, cheeks, LFP

grave siren Dec 24, 2018, 1:22 AM

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No, not the cupola, and sure the LFP, but it’s tiny and if it wiggles you’re more likely to hit the tracks

sterile drift Dec 24, 2018, 1:33 AM

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@drowsy plaza @grave siren the t34 has the highest penetration of all tier 8 hsavy tanks so thats not a good counter argunent to the vk100's armor. as for the copilla, most tanks cannot consistantly pen it without gold

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 1:37 AM

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@sterile drift Falcon was complaining about struggling to pen with the T34, which really makes me wonder about anything else he says. Frankly I find the Vk 100 an easy kill.

sterile drift Dec 24, 2018, 1:39 AM

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true, the vk sacrifices everything for armor and a bug gun, so if you can either out dpm it, or over penetrate its armor, then it becomes alot less effective.

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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The only folks I see having issues with the Vk are IS-x drivers who think they are a super heavy and can go toe to toe with one straight on.

lunar niche Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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And the meds/lights that tries to pen it frontally

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I have zero sympathy for those folks.

quick lichen Dec 24, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Lol

willow junco Dec 24, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Vk100p is op

proud yew Dec 24, 2018, 3:07 AM

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VK100 I can handle

timid galleon Dec 24, 2018, 3:23 AM

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I'm grinding for the VK 100 right now lmao

dim field Dec 24, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Vk 100 seems alright. It's got enough messures to deal with it. Crusader pretty much covered it

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 4:44 AM

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I think the cupola should be needed from 208mm->200mm but it's otherwise pretty well balanced

hidden scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 6:34 AM

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Lol at the complaint over VK 100.01 P. I easily killed one frontally with a historical Tiger II loadout. It’s not OP if you aim and play smart.

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Yeah honestly it's mostly balanced, I'd put it around WZ-110 level right now. Strong, but not broken.

main carbon Dec 24, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Tiger II Sucks

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In my opinion

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 7:27 AM

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It doesn't 😂

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 7:28 AM

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yeah it does

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Maybe you do🤔

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 7:30 AM

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I mean the Lowe only beats it at literally everything

main carbon Dec 24, 2018, 7:32 AM

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Yeah it kinda sucks in armor and speed gun is the only thing semi decent about it

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 7:32 AM

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True but it doesn't make tiger bad, it's that the Lowe is too strong @jovial kernel

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 7:33 AM

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No one really says the Lowe is OP though, it's pretty decent kinda
Which means the Tiger II is um
yeah it's bad

main carbon Dec 24, 2018, 7:34 AM

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It’s too underpowered for a heavy in tier 8 which is the most infested tier because of too many overpowered premium tans, the Tiger II really needs a buff, I haven’t seen anyone use it because the only thing good about it is you can use it to get an E-75

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 7:36 AM

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You obviously can't sidescrape...

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If you want to talk bad, there's a vk 45.02 a

main carbon Dec 24, 2018, 7:40 AM

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IKR

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 7:42 AM

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They're both pretty bad

dusky wolf Dec 24, 2018, 7:48 AM

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it's OP if you mean that 190% credits gain is way too much.

neat yew Dec 24, 2018, 8:21 AM

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The 45.02 probably can't even be considered a heavy... I'd consider it a heavium with a punchy gun.

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 8:28 AM

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I mean personally I prefer the IS-6 with better acceleration, alpha, and armor, at the trade off of penetration and gun handling but it's not too shabby

neat yew Dec 24, 2018, 8:29 AM

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I don't know what I have against most IS series tanks. I got the 2Sh, 5, 8 and the 4, and I only really like the last two. I'm a man of accuracy so when I miss in the first two it really hurts

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 8:33 AM

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IS-X tanks are too boring

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Probably that they have terrible gun handling but they need to wiggle to keep their weak spots from being whacked

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 8:39 AM

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I'd rather play a tiger than is6 lol

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 8:39 AM

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You're weird

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 8:40 AM

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Nah, it's more exciting and challenging 😁

jovial kernel Dec 24, 2018, 8:42 AM

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Honestly you don't even need to be good at the game to win a lot in the IS-6

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unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 8:43 AM

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That is the point, the tank does almost everything by itself and it's boring imo

worthy basin Dec 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@unique scaffold yes?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 9:04 AM

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I read WG will nerf 183 and will make Vindicator, Pz Anko SP and Kuro Mori Mine collector tanks. I just wanna say f*** ***. I have earned all of these tanks and now they want to degradate them. WG policy is making me to never buy a tank from them, except Kpfpz 70

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Lol😂😂

loud knoll Dec 24, 2018, 9:10 AM

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@unique scaffold You haven't really done anything other than waste money on prems and time and commitment to a giant boomstick

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Money on prems he says, you don't know anything about my account, EVERY PREMIUM I own is EARNED, won, or bought with gold from collectors. The only exception will be the MBT 70 at auction. So, I suggest you don't make such sentences without information, I am not a serial shopper and never will be one. I am fuming because I put a lot of efforts to get those tanks in events. And WG squashes their premium status because a bunch of mad players complains about those tanks being too much OP (and themselves implicitly being too much NOOBS to earn them). End of story

indigo knot Dec 24, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Vk100.01p is fine in my opinion ..... It is strong but balanced and I have no problem fighting it even in is5 that has worst tier 8 gun.....if you have still any problem then take RHM ....use calibrated shells and spam heat on its and mauschens front plate....enjoy

loud knoll Dec 24, 2018, 9:23 AM

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wow bravo, often to get a premium you must earn, win or buy it, but thank you for clarifying it to me
@unique scaffold

humble olive Dec 24, 2018, 9:25 AM

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I have a problem on my second account- when I watch ads, I don't get any gold for that. Why?

cunning kindle Dec 24, 2018, 9:25 AM

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@unique scaffold how is changing prems to collectors degrading?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 9:27 AM

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@cunning kindleWG claims they don't nerf premiums, but collectors yes. As if the Vindicator needs a nerf, slow as it is, the only good thing it has is the gun

neat yew Dec 24, 2018, 10:07 AM

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Besides, if you actually bought them for hard cash you deserve that. Nobody should pay extreme money for a tier 7 premium.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 10:12 AM

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@neat yewi won the Vindicator from chests... As I already said, I never used a single Euro in this game, and I am proud of that.

neat yew Dec 24, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Well I sure hope so because otherwise you shouldn't have qualms about free gold

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 10:16 AM

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About the other tanks gained in events, I am righfully p*****d. You do battles and try hard, and then your result is to gain a tank who is no more premium, but WG can do as he pleases. I wouldn't have used my time for those tanks if I knew that. I feel like my time on the game was useless. I don't give a cheese about free gold, I wanted free premium tanks, untouchables.

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Spare us and don't spend your time on this game anymore

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After your highness, don't read and spare me.

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No thanks

drifting shore Dec 24, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Why do people feel proud they haven’t spent any money on the game? Paying money (even a small amount) supports the development of the game, so why would that be something to be ashamed of? I feel just as sorry for the people who put their hand in their pocket and paid for the tanks only for them to become inferior - it’s like me coming and replacing your phone/tablet in the middle of the night with the last version lol.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 11:57 AM

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I have nothing against shopping tanks, I understand this is the WG business, I just don't like heavy shoppers or noobs with Tier 2 regular tanks and Tier 8-10 premiums. As I said, I am going to buy for the first time ever in a game, the kpfpz 70 at the auction because I want to. So no harm done here. I just say, there are people who bought those tanks because they were premiums, not collectors, and there are also people like me who wasted time to obtain them. Deciding this conversion is highly unprofessional and doomed to the losing of customers, and they should think about that, if money is what they're after. That being said, I and some players have to swallow again this decision. I hope they don't joke again in turning premiums in regulars-like tanks.

drowsy plaza Dec 24, 2018, 12:02 PM

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WG has always had the right to alter ANY tank for game balance. Now they have gone out of their way to not nerf premiums for a long time. But the problem with that is they have been forced to buff around a lot of them, or you get into issue like the Löwe that got at least one (I’d say two) buffs past what was needed.

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:07 PM

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yes, lowe got buffed too much.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Let’s be smart. Converting a prem to collector doesn’t means nerf or lowering credit coeff. Actually it just means that you can sell it for gold

ivory fractal Dec 24, 2018, 12:25 PM

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I don’t know if it’s been mentioned before but the current mood seems to be “OH MY GOD, they will nerf my tank” (premium to collector) there’s also a possibility that they’ll buff or not touch it.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:27 PM

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They did it with low tiers but it was for that big rebalance ; although they could have been a bit more fair regarding tanks like T1E6 that got destroyed while Ke-Ni Otsu was untouched

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:27 PM

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yeah, all thought that GraveDigger was op and being instanerfed, but it's still like it was

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Gravedigger got nerfed?

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:28 PM

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no ._.
but it's a collector

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and personally, that thing "prems cant be nerfed" is very stupid. if a tank is extremely and ridicolous broken, it needs to be nerfed, or it's going to ruin the f kng game.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:30 PM

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I think WG has to clarify a bit, collector is a
Regular tank + , or, Premium tank - ?

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Folks let's all take a moment this holiday season to recognize a true Christmas miracle..

A Nerf to the unholy 183!

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grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:30 PM

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so yeah, if your tank is going to be nerfed, you would know that, because is op af compared to same tier tanks.

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:31 PM

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It isn’t OP IMO because of low pen, very tall with bad gun depression, it has weakpoints...I think it is unbalanced like BP : it performs well (too much?) in tier 6/7, struggles against 8

@unique scaffold players will just move to other TDs like AMX 50 B

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:32 PM

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yes also i think gravedigger is balanced*, is almost impossible to hit 6 times an armored tank at mid range in less than 5-6 seconds cuz of aimtime

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:33 PM

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That's what got me angry, I am not going to like a nerf to 183, but it's a regular tank, so it's at least legit. And premiums are always buffed and never nerfed. If they turn a premium tank in a collector, I'd say WG is probably motivated to nerf it

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:34 PM

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guys why do they doubled vk72's ammo capacity? that was some kind of balance with e100

acoustic junco Dec 24, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Did u ever run out of ammo with vk72?

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:35 PM

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@unique scaffold WG guys are not stupid : they know that players will be angry if they nerf prems that they spent time or money for. They prefer introducing them meh to underpowered and buff them later

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:35 PM

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yea, never run out of ammo in vk72, maybe finished HE or heat in certain conditions, but u phisically cant shoot 24 times in a battletime in vk72

acoustic junco Dec 24, 2018, 12:36 PM

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However larger ammo capacity allows more flexibility with shell types, so u will never run out if HE or HEAT

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:37 PM

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yes i know, that was some kind of balance, less flexibility with shell types, cuz now e100 could be powercreeped

unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:37 PM

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E 100 can sidescrape

grave bear Dec 24, 2018, 12:38 PM

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actually i can shoot only HE, only HEAT or only AP for the whole e100 battle
vk72 doesnt need to sidescrape, exit from covers with frontal armor, like you do in T28 prot, and you're done

acoustic junco Dec 24, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Is vk better than e100

elder plaza Dec 24, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Balanced...or naw

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unique scaffold Dec 24, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Don’t do fail platoons.

elder plaza Dec 24, 2018, 12:39 PM

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